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In The Next Bond Film, The Head Of Quantum Might Be Played By...(!?!?)
Merrick here...
CinemaBlend says they have some insight into who could be portraying the big bad in the next 007 picture. Evidently, this news comes to them via a time tested/proven source.
Still, consume the following information with a teeny grain of salt as such matters can be...fluid...and might ultimately be influenced by the MGM situation.
CinemaBlend says the contender is Rachel Weisz...
...they’re considering Weisz to play the head of Quantum, the secret organization responsible for all the bad guy activity in the last two films. More than just another Bond babe, she’d be the mastermind pulling the strings behind everything that’s happened in Daniel Craig’s Bond movies so far, and the architect of James Bond’s suffering.
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...our information comes from a reliable, proven source who’s broken numerous, since confirmed stories to us over a period of several years. For instance, it was this same source that was the first anywhere to break the news that Black Widow would be in Iron Man 2.
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...our information comes from a reliable, proven source who’s broken numerous, since confirmed stories to us over a period of several years. For instance, it was this same source that was the first anywhere to break the news that Black Widow would be in Iron Man 2.
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Can't see it.
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Now I look silly.
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Mar 29, 2010 11:37:09 AM CDT
It would be interesting to have a chick be more than just the fa
by terry1978
Unless she plays up that role to lull him into a false sense of security and all that there.
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Yeah right.
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And starts drinking proper cocktails again, I really could care less who is cast as the lead villain.
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Seriously, you can't have the head of Quantum not be a Blofeld type supervillain.
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Might be a cool idea. He sees her, beds her, Finds out the truth; becomes the somewhat colder business-minded charming soldier we know better than the revenge minded guy we've seen so far... Not bad... I'm willing to see that play out...
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...as long as she has a crazy henchman to do her dirty work.
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the most happening place in Hollywood.
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it's the 21st Century and all that; even an evil female nemesis gotta get some!
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in the last movie.
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Mar 29, 2010 11:48:21 AM CDT
I liked Bond way more when they were free-standing stories
by shiftyeyeddog2
This direct sequel thing is FAR less interesting. It's like dragging out a story 3 times longer than it needs to be. If they get back to making stand-alone films, THEN I'll be interested in Bond again. For now, PASS.
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Cuz you know...the bad guy group should be called Specter. Cuz...that's what it was in the original...you know.
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financially sunk. or nearly financially sunk. its current ceo and board are a bit like the people who ran the titanic. if Mgm goes belly up like a beached whale. bond goes with them. and to the people who say they could bring it to another studio. true, EON could do that. but after 8 years fox wanted to pitch 24 to NBC. nbc took 24 and tossed it out the window. bourne and bond became virtually indentical.
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...For some reason i thought it would be a "minority" and i was right... women are considered minoritites right? wit their monthly bear attractors...
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...If not, ignore amnesia comment
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Free Ernst Blofeld!
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What, so we go back to all the fucking garbage that ruined the previous films? Nothing but lame-ass wisecracks to satisfy those who thought the series was great with Moore, and Brosnan in the lead? Fuck that noise. And "proper cocktails"? What the fuck is that? Nothing but the Martini? He drank EVERYTHING in the books, Whiskey, Scotch, Bourbon, and was very regional with his choices. Fuck the previous films and everything they did to ruin the character and make him a two dimensional idiot catering to the mouth breathers who couldn't take any characterization with their Bond. Casino Royale and Quantum are the only Bond films I even consider now. Well maybe Dr. No and From Russia with Love. The rest? Cinematic Pap Smear™. The formula is just fine as it is now, don't like it? Fuck off and watch something else.
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so someone can make the corny pet the pussy joke at some point
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Mar 29, 2010 12:09:06 PM CDT
I'm confused about this "proper cocktails" bullshit, too.
by mr_macphisto
He drank the fucking Vesper (finally!) in Casino Royale...what more do you people want?!?
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this sounds like bullshit.
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You're dead on NightArrows. Everything before Casino is now unwatchable to me.
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I mean.. I LOVE cats!
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If I wanted to take out the Eurotrash, I'd go to Euro.
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Hooyah!
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She's awesome in Agora.
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for the end of Quantum of Solace as the head of the organisation, but then Marc Foster talks about how he cut out the final scenes as he didn't want to force his decisions upon the next director.
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Sorry to be off topic, but can someone explain to me why HTTM only made $13m this weekend. That movie is freakin' fantastic.
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...for quite some time. So I seriously doubt there will be a money problem. Don't want anything to do with a lightened up Bond. Craig did a fine enough job with the sly Bond grins. I just want a slightly better film than Quantum. I loved Casino Royale, but Quantum had too much Borne editing. Love Rachel Weisz and I think it's about time Bond has a ruthless female boss. One that Bond DOESN'T "bed".
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Only cost 36 million, though. Good word of mouth and it will do fine. How To Train Your Pokemon Salamander, on the other hand, might be in trouble.
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... when I saw her onscreen, I shouted "FUCK that's totally Blofeld!"
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Should open with a steamy sex scene between Craig and Judi Dench.
http://tinyurl.com/y8vae25
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DAMN that was a close call, right?
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yeah, this sounds about as bogus as the al pacino rumor that was nonsense.
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Right. Let's undo everything they have done in the last two movies and turn Bond back into a caricature. The old Bond was no longer working, if you don't like the new movies you got 20 'old' Bond movies to watch over and over again.
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Let's face it. Quantum is SPECTRE in all but name so just use the name and bring Blofeld into it. Even if it's at the end...Bond interrogates a suspect and he gives him a name, saying "Blofeld."
The whole series is a reboot so it's all up for grabs. Remake older Bond films or create new ones with familiar characters. The producers may have wanted to move away from cheesy Bond but the result in QoS was a lifeless film.
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But probably not as good as Lotte Lenya.
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Interesting take on the iconic Bond baddie.
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Mar 29, 2010 12:44:44 PM CDT
If they're going to go with a woman, it should be . . .
by royston lodge
...someone like Helen Mirren or Maggie Smith.
Someone to serve as the ying to Judy Dench's yang.
Plus, I just have a deep irrational loathing of Rachel Weisz' acting chops. Her presence in a movie has ALWAY turned me off. -
I'll buy it though because she's a stone-cold fox.
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Sounds like a daft idea for casting.
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Even though I would love to see Michael Sheen as Ernst Stavro Blofeld I would love to see a great actress play a great Bond villain! That would be a great twist if done right! Rachel Weisz Is not only Talented but she is hot/Beautiful and could pull it off!
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This isn't news to long-time Bond nerds, but maybe newcomers are unaware of the copyright issues:
From Wikipedia:
"SPECTRE and its characters have been at the centre of long-standing litigation starting in 1961 between Kevin McClory and Ian Fleming over the film rights to Thunderball and the ownership of the organisation and its characters. In 1963, Fleming settled out of court with McClory, which awarded McClory the film rights to Thunderball, although literary rights would stay with Fleming and thus allow continuation author John Gardner to use SPECTRE in a number of his novels.
In 1963, EON Productions producers Albert R. Broccoli and Harry Saltzman made agreement with McClory to adapt the novel into the fourth official James Bond film, stipulating also that McClory would not be allowed to make further adaptations of Thunderball for at least ten years since the release. Although SPECTRE and Blofeld are used in a number of films before and after Thunderball, the issue over the copyright of Thunderball, did prevent SPECTRE and Blofeld from becoming the main villains in 1977's The Spy Who Loved Me. In 1983, McClory released the unofficial remake of 1965's Thunderball, entitled Never Say Never Again.
Although McClory retained the film rights to Thunderball until he died, the courts in 2001 awarded Eon exclusive film rights to the fictional character James Bond. This technically prevented McClory from creating further adaptations of the novel."
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when they had sophie marceau as the real villain in that movie, it fell kinda flat. It may not just work with the James Bond character being a somewhat cheavanistic character?
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I would love to see the Original Bond be the Best Bond Villain! He could play it perfectly if he wanted to! To bad he would never do it and that he is retired from acting! Tell who wouldn't pay to see Sean Connery as the Bond Villain! You know it would be great!
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Bloefield 2.0 can be one too. (Although I was hoping they go all meta and have Vin XXX Diesel play Bloefield. Could've been fun.)
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Just happened to catch 15 minutes of The World Is Not Enough on cable the other day, what an unwatchable piece of complete dogshit. All these people who complain about QoS and actually want to go back to the days of laser watches, invisible cars, and lame one liners need to fuck off back to where they came from. QoS was unquestionable flawed, but the opera sequence alone had more genuine drama and legit action then the entirety of that tripe where the Korean dude had genetic laser surgery to look like some British upper crust aristocrat. Just read that last sentence again before you whine like bitches about how "serious" bond is now.
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I thought the movie fell flat because so much of the dialogue was retarded and the premise behind Robert Carlysle's villain made no sense.
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Mar 29, 2010 1:01:04 PM CDT
DAMN. SHOULD'VE BEEN COREY HAIM...THUNDERBIRDS STYLE!
by richard_gere_raped_my_gerbil
"Yack yack yack! I am ze evil mastermind behind QUANT-"(One of the puppeteer's strings snap and Haim's left arm falls to the floor followed by the rest of his decaying corpse)
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Get it? "Quantum?" heh...
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Why, there was...um...There was O-Ren Ishii, head of the Crazy 88...No, never mind, they all died. Well, how about Mom from FUTURAMA?
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...Patrick Stewart as Blofeld.
You know, cuz he's bald, and old, and stuff like that.
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...her reputation as the leader of the gang was later revealed to be fictitious.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma_Barker#Controversy
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That would be DIE ANOTHER DAY, which is in fact a pile of shit. The World is Not Enough is not bad at all.
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Human, but with all jerky movements and so. With NO explanation of why is it so, and no reference from the characters about such a bizarre creature.
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I also thought TWINE wasnt that bad when I saw it at the time. However, after seeing Casino Royale and seeing what the franchise was truly capable of, to go back now and see Brosnan ski down a mountain next to Sophie Marceau in her furry mink hat and Olsen Twins huge sunglasses while being chased by snowmobiles attached to parasail gliders.....I mean, it really is just laugh out loud hilarious at this point, and I dont think thats really what they were shooting for when they made that film.
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Everybody keeps say Rachel will be bald. I'm sure she'll just be shaved and smooth...
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That guy can play anything. He would make an awesome Blofeld. Good idea. But so would Helen Mirren too. In a totally different way.
http://tinyurl.com/58asal
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Turd movie, but fantastic song. Contrast the throatiness against "Die Another Day."
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Even Jimmy didn't waste her.
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That's your opinion and you're welcome to it, buddy. Some of us like Bond to be FUN, not some deep dark psychological study of an assassin - which is its own kind of ridiculousness, just pretentious as well. I would much rather sit down and watch TWINE right now than many of the more "serious" Bonds, including even CR - which, while well made, does not reward repeated viewings IMO. Craig is just a little too fucking dour and monotone in that one. In QOS, at least he becomes somebody I recognize as Bond with a wicked wit. I love how all these movie geeks that want more superheroes in tights always want Bond to be more "realistic". He's a fantasy. A wish fulfillment about being the coolest, suavest, most sophisticated spy in the room who gets to bed the most beautiful women and live THE GOOD LIFE. If you don't get it, watch another series for fuck's sake. Nothing in TWINE is any more absurd than things in TSWLM, LALD, OHMSS, YOLT, and TB, which are my favorite Bonds of all time. I agree with the guy who said that they should go back to individual adventures and stop turning Bond into a fucking soap opera where every mission is "persona" and some kind of revenge. It's boring and it misses the point on what we want from Bond - those of us who really love 007 for what he is and ALWAYS HAS BEEN.
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If you want to go with a woman, how about Helen Mirren.
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That the Bond series was EVER in trouble. DAD, for all it's many problems, broke the box office record for the series - like TWINE did before that, TND did before that, and GE did before that. Bond was doing just fine and was not in need of "fixing". Every movie in the series is an adjustment to the left or right (see MR and FYEO), that's the nature of a continuing series with a formula continually being tweaked and reflecting the times. But the essential appeal of the hero is something you can't fuck with too much or you lose the point of the series. People want to see the hero they know and have come to love. That's why Bond has been going on for 48 years and other heroes...uhm, haven't.
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If you're going to make your ultimate bad guy a girl, then make it an intimidating one, not a cute and cuddly one.
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I'm not sure this "scoop" really warranted the build up. As for lightening up Bond, why do people always assume the films have to be everything or nothing (no pun intended)? The series doesn't need another Quantum, but that doesn't mean it has to revert back to invisible cars, either. The best Bond films always knew how to strike a balance between letting Bond be serious and letting him have a little fun. It's kind've what made the series unique in the first place. If Connery had just been forced to play another straightforward action hero, that would've probably lasted for about two or three films. It certainly wouldn't have become a huge cultural phenomenon that left everyone else trying to catch up. Fleming understood this as well, which is why his books were far more escapist- and entertaining- than what his peers were writing at the time. (Ironically, most of the "serious" fictional spies from that era have largely been forgotten over time.) The only people who don't seem to understand this simple concept are the current Bond producers. They bounce from one extreme to the next, in a desperate attempt to cash-in on the latest trend. Of their six Bond films, only two are generally considered worthwhile. The rest veer from the series' most absurd (Die Another Day) to its most dour (Quantum of Solace). Forget Rachel Weisz. Michael and Barbara are the true architect's of Bond's suffering. They seemingly have no idea about what to do with this franchise.
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Mar 29, 2010 1:52:54 PM CDT
Helen Mirren would at least be a more credible Bond villainess
by spyguy
Judi Dench as well, but obviously she's already taken as M unless her M would be revealed as a member of QUANTUM. Sadly, as decent as Rachel Weisz is, it's going to be very hard to see her as the head of such an organization. How about Glenn Close?
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"movie geeks that want more superheroes in tights"
You know they probably just want to see the same thing that the people watching Bond? "A wish fulfillment".
Also the same reason i like to watch Arnold say one-liners and throwing jerks off cliffs.
That's not to say i don't like a good drama though, you just have to find that balance. Which i agree, the bond producers is fune tuning. The series is up to 23 by now. So obviously they have SOME things down.
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Yes, we're all very impressed with you true-blue fans who have read every Fleming book, but the book Bond is irrelevant to the movie Bond, which is how most everyone knows this character. The bottom line is, moviegoers don't give a shit if his character is somewhat inconsistent over the long haul. It's taken on a movie by movie basis. It's either the kind of action movie you want to see on that weekend when it's out, or it isn't. No one misses the over-the-top gadgets if the Craig Bond movies are enjoyable, and most people won't complain if the next one has the gadgets, as long as the movie is simply enjoyable to watch.
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In real life. So, we know she likes younger guys. She would also be more believable as the head of a secret organization than Rachel Weitz.(who is also smoking hot, just logically wrong.)
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...but only if he wears the giant teddy bear suit again.
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I love these people who think all the Bond films are shit but that the last two were the f**cking Seventh Seal or something. If you feel that way, I have news for you. You are NOT a fan of the James Bond series! Go and watch Jason Bourne. Ian Fleming and Cubby Broccoli are probably rolling in their graves with Barbara's politically correct and charmless rebranding of the most enduring franchise ever with Daniel Craig's craggy mug and toilet brush hairstyle now apparently supposed to represent that tall, suave, handsome fellow with the comma of black hair.
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That's what you get, when you google image search Helen Mirren for pictures.
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and then constantly shit on it with terrible sequels?
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I'm okay with a female mastermind, but it seems more like a role for someone like Cate Blanchett. Weisz just doesn't strike me as the ultimate Bond mastermind.
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What if the head of QUANTUM turns out to be Rosa Klebb?! If they really are legally prohibited from using Blofeld, they should still be allowed to use Klebb.
Without saying it explicitly on-screen, using Klebb as the big villain would imply that she took over after Bond (didn't really, nudge nudge wink wink) dumped Blofeld down that industrial chimney stack.
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The guy who plays HOUSE on Fox. Excellent actor who could go toe to toe with Craig. A female lead,how about the guy who plays HOUSE again as a transsexual.
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... the terribly underrated ON HER MAJESTY SECRET SERVICE. CASINO ROYALE just put under the ground and burried once and for all all that old bond nonsense that didn't make any sense whatsoever anymore. Too bad QUANTUM OF SOLACE wasn't the movie that CR is, but that might had been more because of the terrible action scene editing in that movie, the story itself was quite good. and i'm one of the guys here old enough to have seen OCTOPUSSY in the theatetrs back in the day and yeah, i dig the Daniel Graig approach better. CASINO ROYALE is the only Bond DVD i ever bought, and it was even the more expensive special edition. Damn good movie, great aweome Bond. After Casino Royale, concerning all things, Bond, i accept no substitutes.
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No need to be bald.
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and a white cat looks better on a woman like her. Sure what the hell
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A female like Weisz would be a femme fatale; someone Bond is drawn to. Remember in CR how he prefers older, married women? Perfect setup here: he thinks he's seduced her, and then she really and truly polishes his pickle later.
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"Very little is known of Lucrezia as a historical personage, and her complicity in the political machinations of her brothers and father cannot be determined at this time."
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Acquanetta - I agree with the bulk of what you're saying here. I don't think the producers (who are only producers because of nepotism, period) have a fucking clue why their own series is so successful, what makes their hero special. They swing wildly back and forth with the wind and just don't seem to "get it" on a basic creative level. It's weird. I could go on and on about them, especially Michael G. Wilson. I met Carey Lowell once and she confirmed everything I suspected about this accountant turned "writer". These are people that were born to be in the dry-cleaning business, not movies. They're also unbelievably greedy, taking huge producer fees up front and then skimping on locations. (When's the last time Bond spent any real time in a major world city? No, now he's in a desert, on ice, in a submarine, on a construction site...and Hong Kong is a black curtain with Christmas lights) Cubby Broccoli believed in putting all the money "back on the screen", not his kids. Peter Skellen - Thanks, I couldn't agree more. No matter how much Craig manages to smooth out his rough edges, he will never really be my idea of Bond. That face and that sullen attitude is never going to match up with the hero I grew up on. Brosnan had an amazing Bond movie in him, they just never fully gave it to him.
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He wasn't bald in Diamonds Are Forever...yes it's expected but there is a precedent there for having hair.
I would have actually cast Kevin Spacey as Blofeld but then he went and played Lex Luthor. Damn him!!!
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Kudos on the double entendre.
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That's fine...for you. If you only ever wanted to own CR, then as Peter Skellen says, you're not a fan of the series. You like CR like I like the third Harry Potter movie, the second Star Wars movie, and only one Batman movie (BB). It means that movie hit the spot for you and the rest is bullshit to you, that's how I feel about the above examples. But just understand, as I do, that that makes you an exception not the rule. Otherwise we would not be talking about such a long-running series. Hey, I liked QOS better than CR! Yep. Pick up your jaw. The action is frustratingly edited, no doubt, but it moves and feels like a real Bond film, not a leaden drama, the action feels tough without being a downer, and it has a sharp sense of humor. And Bond wins! Guess what, I like to see Bond movies where he comes out on top. Call me crazy.
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In the novels he's explicitly described as having black hair. I'd be interested to see someone like Gandolfini or even Michael C. Hall play the role. Or how about Nestor Carbonnell? He even has the creepy "doll's eyes" that are also a Blofeld trademark. And, as we witnessed on last week's Lost, turns out the dude can act, too.
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...what about Terry O'Quinn or Michael Emerson? There's a lot they can do with the character.
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She's the ideal counterpoint to Dame WhatsHerName's M. Also, Roger Moore should play her verbally abused husband (as revenge for all the Bond movies that he ruined).
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Al Pacino would play the head of Quantum in the second Daniel Craig Bond picture......so much for the accuracy of that scoop!!
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Mar 29, 2010 3:30:28 PM CDT
This is what happens when you have a female producer
by takingscorpioscalls
This is what happens when you have a female producer for the series, it slowly builds with a female M boss, followed by every Bond chick being a past flame and/or his equal, and now the head badguy is a chick, and next in line they'll sack Craig and get Halle Berry as the new Bond who's black and female so that's twice the wackyness!
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Apparently, I'm highly suggestible today.
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Perfect Bond.
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The absolute nadir of the series.
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Bond needs gadgets and flirtation, not torture and angst. (Still love CR tho).
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I don't really miss them.
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Sorry, I know it's sexist of me to say, but Bond's primary nemesis should still be an iconic middle aged European man, not a woman.
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What I liked about the Connery films was how they HINTED at how SPECTRE and Blofeld were behind-the-scenes and pulling all of the strings, and yet each film was a completely self-contained adventure in and of itself. QOS, aside from being HORRIBLY directed and almost ridiculously short (honestly...take away the opening/ending credits and it was like ninty-five freaking minutes long), also was basically just a third act to Casino Royale. Hell, even Kill Bill Volume Two felt more self-contained than QOS. I was hoping that Bond getting the guy who ordered Vesper's death (or something, I was kind of fuzzy on that) would definatively end the whole QUANTUM thing and allow the next film to be an amalgam of the best elements of the previous films...the witty fun of the best Connery/Moore/Brosnan films with the edge of the Craig pictures. Craig DOES have charm to spare (his dialogue with Vesper on the train in CR was classic 007), so it'd be nice to finally have Q and Moneypenny back for the next installment, action sequences that don't look like they were edited with a rusty chainsaw, and a good blend of espionage and BEDDING HOT CHICKS.
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No, i'm not a fan of the series, as you say it. I'm a fan of CASINO ROYALE, and i like the ocasional Bond movie like ON HER MAJESTY SECRET SERVICE. But i don't hold the Bond series as a whole all that highly as most Bondgheads do, specially the more traditionalists. And frankly, i find Roger Moore approach unsufferable. If i wanted to watch clowns, i would go to the circus. Back in the day, Timothy Dalton in THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS was a breath of fresh air, it was like a Casino Royale on a smaller scale. It was enthralling. Those are the Bonds that really stick with me, the ones that play differently to the formula, the ones who try to reach higher, and by that doesn't mean higher budgets and bigger special effects and gigantic lairs for the impossibly megalomaniac villains.
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QOS is a middling entry made worse by the horrible direction/editing of the action setpieces. It's TMWTGG/Moonraker/TWINE-level mediocre, not DAF/AVTAK/DAD-level unwatchable.
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Like pointed out by rebeck and others, the whol DAMN POINT of James Bond is he is always against megalomaniacs, a classy looking tall thin guy with a black comma like Superman almost, bedding chicks and GADGETS (it doesnt have to be invisible cars). The new serious Bonds are as awful as the Dalton era but at least the Dalton still respected much of the core elements to the identity of James Bond. You strip away these things and Bond becomes a Jack Bauer/John McClane aka every million other faceless action movies no one gives two shits about, and that's exactly what they're doing now with the lemon-shaped guy with the toilet brush hair looking like a John Cena lookalike.
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just pretend QOS never happened, which shouldn't be hard since I watched it twice and don't remember ANYTHING about it.
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Roger Moore and Pierce Brosnan in those movies you named, Moonraker, TWINE, Golden Gun have more charm and class and are way more watchable by themselves, even if the stories around them are weaker, they're still strong, which cannot be said the same for the new Bonds which have sucky storeis and a sucky Bond.
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Lifeless? There was more emotion during the death of Mathis scene alone than most of the pre-Craig films combined. The film was meant as a Prologue of sorts. Bond, and the film, seems out of control, and then he gradually becomes what he needs to be, the Bond who lives the mission, and treats women as objects, never to let them in...until Tracy... Quantum was awesome. The only gripe I could have would be all the damn fire in the hotel at the end. They would have been BBQ'd...
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They did - all rights to every story belong to the Broccolis now. That was part of them moving over to Sony.
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So basically you think Moore is a better Bond than Craig? That in itself defines you as a twat, with no taste, and obviously no appreciation for the literary Bond, or what they have tried to do with Craig, walk that line between the Bond in the novels and updating him for a tougher world. They've done it perfectly. You however are an idiot for even considering that pansy Moore as anything but a priss. And Brosnan? He punches like an old lady and runs like a girl. Fact.
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One of the best characters from the novels ... way cooler than Felix ... and they killed him off.
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So he has a different opinion and that makes him a twat? How old are you? Obviously a lot of us loved Moore for a long time. He was of his time, but he was a lot of fun - and I'd put his Bond in TSWLM up against any other, period. And no...DALTON is the one who ran like a girl. (Watch the pretitle from THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS for proof)
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...and FUCK the gadgets. The only place they belong is after Inspector. That people pine for them is fucking retarded. Bond is NOT about the gadgets. He's about choices (food, drink, clothes, women), time (as in LIVING it on his terms) and the mission. All things that CR and QoS nailed for the most part.
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That makes him a twat. I'm old enough to chuck around a derogatory term and feel comfortable with it. I didn't ask you to like it. I grew up with Moore and even then realized he was a nancy, despite the fact I watched his "films". TSWLM is the most over-rated of ALL the Bond films...
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It definitely makes you wonder what Fleming would make of Barbara's version. After all, this was a man who gave his female characters punny names like Vesper Lynd, Tiffany Case, and Pussy Galore. Yet now we've got a female M that has become some kind of mother figure to Bond. It has nothing to do with Fleming's vision and everything to do with Joan Allen aiding Matt Damon in the Bourne sequels. You also point out a fundamental problem with how the current producers approach Bond. It's become all about finding a gimmick they can use to sell the umpteenth sequel. So Bond gets a female boss and is betrayed by an old friend. He gets wounded and is betrayed by a lover. He gets captured and is betrayed by MI6. He gets rebooted and is betrayed by a lover. And finally, he gets turned into Jason Bourne and is betrayed by everybody. I think Rebeck2 may have summed it up best: "These are people that were born to be in the dry-cleaning business, not movies."
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That would be bad ass!
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Don't get me wrong I like Rachel Weisz, but surely they could get a far bigger name that would lend credibility to the role. What about those rumors of Al Pacino being the head of Quantum?
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The only problem with this idea is that you couldn't have a Bond film where the bad guy ends up being the better man and James Bond loses.
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but they caught him too late for the part! He looks older than his age. Shame the guy's got no more than 2 more movies in him.
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He's Bond, James Bond, not some British government bureaucrat (or a wanker, whatever that is).
Cue music.
http://tinyurl.com/6rwg2g
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Cut n ' paste from his Imdb:
"Although critics often accused him of not looking tough enough to play superspy James Bond, he once beat up legendary American hellraiser Lee Marvin while they were filming Shout at the Devil (1976). Marvin recalled, "The guy is built like granite. Nobody will ever underestimate him again."
He's also 'The Saint'(where he drove my dream car), Brett Sinclair from 'The Persuaders', and he served in korea ffs.
Ladies love him too. His oneliners have gotten me most places...You bums wouldn't believe.
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As in Christopher Waltz and I nearly jumped for joy. If ever there was an actor born to be a Bond villain surely its Christopher Waltz no? Maybe the source meant to say Waltz and said Weiz instead?
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But no worse off than that last puff of a villain. "OMG, he's trying to steal water!"... lame.
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"There was more emotion during the death of Mathis scene alone than most of the pre-Craig films combined. "
Now you KNOW that what you said here was stupid fucking shit and yet you still posted it. 1 second from OHMSS's finale alone shits all over the "yesss we ARE dramatic" fakewank of Suantum of Qolace. -
Wasn't there once a rumor he would appear as Brosnan's dad? Bond thinks his dad died when he was a child, but Connery turns up and explains he was forced to disappear. The two then go off on a mission, with Connery playing the kind of old badass he did in The Untouchables. That would kick all kinds of ass.
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Rachel Weisz is ok... but she is NOT villain material. Not in any shape or form what so ever. I am hoping this is wrong but going off the last movie, I wouldnt be at all surprised.
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Mar 29, 2010 6:00:47 PM CDT
Kevin McClory is dead, MGM bought Never Say Never Again, so...
by nem_wan
Are all the rights issues resolved? Is there anything stopping EON from using any of the IP McClory co-owned, Blofeld, SPECTRE, anything?
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The 2005 video game of From Russia With Love (notable for Sean Connery's voice-over being the only acting he's done since League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and his voice role as Sir Billi) features Rosa Klebb and other characters from the movie but SPECTRE is renamed OCTOPUS and there is no Blofeld or Blofeld replacement. So I guess that answers your question.
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Watching her in this film should remove any doubt that she could be a great Bond villain!
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Need to lighten up, are you paying attention America, this is true irony.
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I can't think of a role where she has appeared intelligent. The Fountain was harmed by her ditziness. It would have been more compelling with a stronger actress. There's no way she could pull off a supervillain. I like the idea of a woman though. Just pick one who's believable.
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....I think of Rachel Weisz. Not.
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Hang on, that's Aronofsky. I get them confused. That'd be a hell of a swinger's party though.
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CR was almost a flawless movie. Up there with the Godfather. QoS was the second half of the movie, and although on its own it feels incomplete, its a perfect ending arc to the Bond origin story. I can't wait for the next one. Fuck the haters.
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the franchise has been rebooted so we are talking about a new Bond universe.Conney can be part of it as a villain.I think it would have been cool watching in the same scene an actor who plays the new,rebooted Bond against the actor who made the original Bond iconic.
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SRY NOOBZ.
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Bond leaves him in a dumpster and takes money out of his wallet. How was that emotional?
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... was a load of balls. More dissapointing than finding a pube in your Big Mac. Casino Royale was fucking amazing though - one of the best ever Bond movies. Even if all the other Bond movies he makes are shit, Craig will be remembered as a great Bond for Casino.
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The 'female mastermind' is something that doesn't show up in Bond films that often, and I think it would fit perfectly in context with the reboot. And I think seeing a cold-blooded Rachel Weisz dispatching henchmen who fail her would be gleeful at the very least
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Perfection.
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...to lobby EON to make make Rosa Klebbs the villainess in the next Bond movie.
Throw a German accent on Weisz and ugly her up a bit and she might even be able to pull it off.
I'd nerdgasm all over the back of the head of the guy sitting in front of me in the theatre if they went that route and were able to pull it off.
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While Rachel Weisz isn't the worst person they could pick, I would think that someone who was the head of an international criminal organization like that would be someone a little more... well, ruthless. I'd have a hard time believing that she could scare and intimidate enough people into all working for her.
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I second the idea of casting an older woman who has proven experience playing the ice queen. Helen Mirren or Maggie Smith would be great choices. Weisz is a good actress with a lot of charisma but I would have a hard time believing her as the evil head of a global conspiracy.
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More like Quantum of Shit.
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...But then again, I'm a hardcore, geopolitical junkie who actually knows what's going on in the world and what intelligence services are really for (hint: it's not to keep us safe).
The structure of QUANTUM flips the campy Bond mythos on its head, representing a massive array of wealthy private interests counterbalancing the political interests of the CIA, MI6, FSB, etc. Given how unlike SPECTRE this already is, it's not surprising that it's "head" (and I'm guessing he/she will change from picture to picture) is so...unusual.
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A nice way to go. I've liked the new Bond films so far - Casino a bit more than Quantum, but not much more. What I like most is Daniel Craig.
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haven't even seen it yet, but I thought since everyone was raving about him he might be a good fit.
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"I-can't-believe-it's-not-Brando" schtick would rule. As far as the new Bond universe goes I like Daniel Craig but I hate that they've turned Bond into a dumb killing machine. Loved Royale and thought Quantum had some great action but I'd really like to see an intelligent Bond film. Basically they're doing movies that are just as stupid as the Brosnan ones but hiding behind "realism". Royal was the exception but I've got a bad feeling about this next one. I also wish they would go back to self contained stories. Sure Connery battled Spectre for most of his tenure but the stories themselves were at still self contained. Personally my favorite Bond film will always be "The Spy Who Loved Me" eventhough I hate most of Moore's other efforts. It's still the best one in my opinion, save for Goldfinger of course.
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I wonder what her name will be?
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It should ba a more complex organisation than a mob gang, more like a corporative business... This way, the good guys don't know where to strike... Also, I don't buy little Rachel Weiss as the all powerful boss of Quantum...
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He plays Bond as a British thug: humorless, stupid and excessively violent to the point where, in the last film, when given orders to question someone in the Bahamas, he's attacked, disarms the guy and then KILLS HIM without asking him for information! That's one STUPID secret agent. But, unfortunately, that's the M.O. of Craig's Bond.It makes for very boring movies, because the guy's simply a killing automaton, with almost no depth to his character or likable qualities. Completely the OPPOSITE of the Bond of the novels and the past film Bonds, whose humor, cleverness and particular tastes in food, drink, weapons and cars made him stand out against his rivals.
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I think Daniel Craig is perfect bond I mean playing a role of a secret agent you must be as tough as Craig not like pretty boy Pierce because your not going to survive bond's life just being a pretty boy
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it means that you are more badass.right..
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Leave Bauer and Bourne be all realistic. Have a ridicolously cool Bond and put him in a wrold where he can fight commie robots and space nazis on exotic locations. Make him even more over the top than the Brosnan films. I enjoy the current "saga" but I can't see "realBond" working for decades.
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Brosnan was much better than craggy face Craig. He had suave, sophistication, humor and ruthlessness. Craig only has ruthlessness. Just imagine a 40 yr old Brosnan in Casino Royale - fucking incredible.
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if a cute cuddly kitten like Rachel Weisz can make a great Bond villain. But hey, the villain in "Quantum" sucked balls, too, so they're just staying on course.
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made a pretty decent Bond villain in that Brosnan flick, by the way.
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Villain...
a) steals all skeleton puppets in Mexico in an elaborate plot to sabotage the dia de los muertos, but repercussions are unexpectedly mild
b) steals the whole country of Greece and tries to blackmail the European Union, but everyone is so happy to have gotten rid of it that nobody cares
c) steals all body building equipment and anabolics in the world, which is taken very personally by this bulked-up iteration of Bond
d) steals James Bond's high tech purse and laughs fiendishly -
which i saw in one her movies...
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So the next Bond will be a downbeat suburban drama about failed marriage and seduction of minors?
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Start with THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS. Then do ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE. Which segues effortlessly (via Tracy's tombstone) into FOR YOUR EYES ONLY. Job done. I also have to say that I am the one person in the world who enjoyed QUANTUM OF SOLACE more than CASINO ROYALE. I really did think it was a better film and a truer Bond film.
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You wont find a bigger fan than me, so since we have a topic; I will write. A female villain would be ok, I have no problem that and if they make her a 21st century Number One (aka Spectre) thats fine also. My problem is Craigs Bond. I think Craig is a fine actor, but the direction the Broccoli's have taken is the wrong way, IMO. Its not Ian Flemings Bond anymore, its "Ludlums" Bond. Everyone is wrapped up with Jason Bourne, so thats what we have now. There's no moneypenny, no gadgets, no double-sided door, no Q, no wink and smile.etc etc. They've made them so serious and in such a real world enviornment that you can beleive the things Bond does anymore. The airport scene and the opening scene in Casino Royale?? c'mon. Quantum of Solace; falling thousands of feet, opening the chute with 100 feet left and you survive? ridiculous. Even the earlier bonds had there "fantastical" elements to them, but you just kinda accepted it cause you knew it was a fantasy. As for Bonds, there were others before Craig, and they were just as ruthless. One of my favorites is Moore (who never gets respect anymore) a .44 in LALD, one shot to the heart in TMWTGG, 3 to Stromberg in TSWLM (not to mention how many henchemen did he mow down), kicking the car off the cliff in FYEO, roughing up Maude adams, etc etc. Cmon, give the guy a little credit.
btw: great name Peter Skellen. The final Option (who dares wins) is a fabulous movie. an underappreciated gem -
Practically writes itself.
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Jaysus, this is a no brainer here.
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Bond should have various elements that for various reasons (done to death in previous movies perhaps) they have dropped them to go all Bourney. Meanwhile look at hos the last Batman movie out-Bonded Bond...
Cool Car with unbelievable gadgets - check
Exotic locations - Check
Awesome stunts - check (the escape via wire from the Asian building was so Bond...)
Scene-Stealing Villain who presents real danger - check
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daniel craigs bond has no personality. and maybe that is the point. eon heard the call of the fans loud and clear and decided to shred bond of his personality. bond was sauave, cool and charming debonair and dangerous and he has pulling power. Daniel craigs bond is emotionally devoid of any emotion whatsoever. I get the feeling so want it that way which is why they load the catchphrases the guns and I will agree those overly extended opening. TWINE was a case in point. I remember seeing that in the cinema and looking at my watch. I loved casino royale and hated QOs. I saw it with two different people. People who give out about Brosnan fail to realise his bonds were the most financially successful bonds of the series. Quantity over quality. Style over substance. There is alot of truth there. as long as La Brocoli is in charge. bond will remain a cash cow for the forseeable future.
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Read an interestiong bit on another board that the name "James Bond" does not belong to one person, but is alway the name of the agent with the 007 number. The QoS villian could then be cast as a disgruntled ex-007, namely Sean Connery. =)
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She's stunningly beautiful and in a bad girl character, that would rule. Hopefully this will have plenty of depth to it instead of a cheap "Bond dumped me in college so I'm getting revenge" plot.
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Mar 30, 2010 11:42:45 AM CDT
I think Daniel Craig's bond is the closest to the novels...
by royston lodge
...that we've ever seen.
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Mar 30, 2010 11:43:22 AM CDT
"Bond fucked my ass and didn't even gimme a reach-around."
by royston lodge
That's why the villain hates him so much.
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... is a fool.
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everytime I read her name I feel the need to masturbate to her pictures.
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Yes, the previous Bond actors seem to get very little respect these days. Yet for all the criticism that they were "too unbelievable" in the role, actors like Moore and Brosnan were still fairly big guys. Meanwhile, Craig is around 5'10" in lifts. I don't mean to belittle the guy, but it's definitely a case of fans living in glass houses. I'm also not convinced Craig has any greater claim to Fleming's Bond than someone like Connery or Dalton. For one, Bond didn't approach his missions like an 80s action star. (He certainly wasn't dumb enough to kill people before he got their information out of them.) To be perfectly fair, each Bond actor has represented different aspects of what Fleming originally intended. Moore was a bit of a snob. Connery had the cruelty down. Lazenby had the physicality. Dalton and Craig were allowed to play it very straight. And ironically, if Fleming had been shown all six actors and asked to pick one, he probably would've chosen Brosnan on physical appearance alone. I also agree with you that the producers keep spending way too much time chasing Jason Bourne. For every step they take towards getting back to Bond's roots, they still seem to insist on taking two or three steps back.
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Apr 01, 2010 1:43:37 PM CDT
Somebody please tell me this is an April Fools joke!!!!
by royston lodge
"Lady Gaga to sing James Bond theme."
http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/3538528/Lady-Gaga-to-sing-Bond-theme
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