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Michael Taylor, who wrote last week’s episode, wrote tonight’s as well. Syfy says of "End of Line":
Daniel sets a deadline to reset the Cylon, forcing Zoe to find a way to save herself; Barnabas clashes with Clarice, with Lacy caught in the middle; Daniel make a confession to Amanda.
Ten new and already-shot first-season hours of “Caprica” will be aired by Syfy this autumn.
One hears “Caprica” hit a nice uptick in terms of total viewers last week, though it’s hard to tell from the Friday 18-49 table:
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This show with the long gap between seasons will kill it. It's not Lost.
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I think so, anyway. So is it still first season or not?
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The show has done a good job adapting to its strengths.
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I know nothing about this show except that it has a naked, pale girl holding an apple in its promotional materials.
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this show just isn't working for me. I love parts of the show but all the different aspects of the show don't mesh well. Everything is either too drawn out or rushed. I wonder if the show would have worked better if they did 12 2 hour episodes instead of 22 1 hour episodes.
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..it's just taking too long to get there! This show doesn't need to be spread over 4 or 5 seasons to tell the story of the Cylon birth and rebellion. The single god beliefs, regeneration of the consciousness and virtual reality projection is all well initiated but its being bogged down by labored narrative. Speed things up before the inevitable happens when the viewing figures begin to slide and the network cancels it before the story has a chance to finish!
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I think they probably agree with you but they have 10 more episodes in the can. I have zero doubt that if they get a gift season 2 they will speed it up in a big way.
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...donkey dick compared to Legend of the Seeker, plus it has better ratings. But becuase Herc doesn't like LOTS it doesn't get any coverage.
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The pilot was promising but Caprica has gotten really shitty, really fast. The bits with Daniel Graystone and Zoe "ghost in the machine" are compelling but the other plotlines are soap opera horrible. Tomas Vergis and the industrial espionage? Amanda and her dead brother? Adama in New Cap City? To quote Steve Langford: "Who gives a shit, who gives a fuck?" Still, it's cool seeing Trixie (my wood is anything but dead when I see her) and Mask.
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more smoking and staring into the middle distance, overblown music, no plot progression and someone saying "motherfrakker"
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How come his own accent sounds less convincing than his British one?
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THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A BRITISH ACCENT.
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accent, just because there's lots of them.
A British accent could range from the dangerously uptwang of Northern Ireland to the incomprehensible burr of the drunken Scott, to the lyrical sounding Welshman, and everything inbetween.
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I noticed that too... I'm starting to think they shot one full season and decided to split it up to get 2 seasons for the price of one.SyFy's scheduling is getting weirder each season. Pretty soon they'll show one new episode and then put it on a year long hiatus. I mean just think, they could have a show run 10-20 years with just one full season!
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it has a homo with knives
a homo with knives, with strong family values
a homo with knives, that runs around *penetrating* everyone with them
yeah, this is a good show
so modern, so hip, so edgy
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I understand in the first season to build things up for the rest of the series, but I think they made a critical mistake with this one. Zoe being unlikable isn't a help as well as putting this in some 1950s background with technology that is way advance. The show just looks boring and that is not a good thing. I want a good talky sci-fi show too, but anyone who doesn't want some action in their sci-fi is lying or not really a fan, but really likes Moon or 2001.
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That's all that matters, screw the haters.
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always in bed with some kid
And the chick is one jelly doughnut away from going full fat
Wouldn't hurt if she'd wash up a bit once and awhile either
Broad looks like she'd smell bad
Wallows out of the communal bed
Shoe horns her bulk into the day before yesterdays clothes (because they've had a day to air out)
Ready for another day of seduction
And then there's Amanda *Meth Face* Graystone
Man that chick is too young to be that hagged out.
And now Warthog and Meth Face are hanging out.
I reach for the remote
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That was beautiful...(dabs corner of eye)
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was WAAAAY hotter in Rome.
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Is the only thing that will save this show. And so say we all.
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Well, you can always watch Humping Robot on Robot Chicken
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I'm not surprised.
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Of an average of 40 minutes material, 5 is dedicated to advancing the plot, 35 minutes to the bloggy angst of mostly bad actors.
And I suspect that Robert Carlyle's role was intended to be a 10 episode arc from the beginning, as a way to attract viewers to the show, nothing more. Hope he was paid well. -
That guy really disappeared eh?
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It was bad enough that Lou Diamond Phillips was in it, but Robert Carlyle is criminally underused. Not in terms of screen time, but in terms of giving him something to DO. Something that he can ACT.
Fuck it's annoying to see his talent go to waste.
I was talking to a friend about this the other day. I know the SG writers can write good characters (I still think Rodney McKay is an awesome character) so why doesn't SGU have ANY memorable characters? Why would I happily rabbit punch each and every one of them in the back of the head? -
SGU is shit covered shit with a liquid shit filling. But there is one chick with a great rack.
Caprica is the same thing, but without the tits. I tried to give a shit about Caprica - I really did - but its a floater. The thing that made BSG so great was that it had this BATTLESTAR called GALACTICA that would occasionally KICK CYLON ASS! Minus those things, ya got shit. -
so you're saying if it doesn't have 'action' it's not scifi? That 2001, arguably one of the most brilliant science fiction films ever made isn't scifi because it doesn't have splosions? You might want to check your genre history. Science fiction did exist before Star Wars, you know. Science fiction existed for a long time as speculative fiction about technology, the future and the human condition. Nary an action scene to be found. Caprica is good scifi that explores major questions about technology, mortality/immortality, the human soul, and the Divine. Just like BSG did, though they threw in an occasional space battle to keep people like you and smaugchow happy.
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"As long as we have aliens and space ships and ray guns, we'll get
the SF audience GUARANTEED; it's the mainstream we have to work at" they are talking about people like shutupfanboy.
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That booger under the desk of TV. It's amazing how many fake tits there were back then.
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I know that's blasphemy, and I really appreciate what 2001 is about and how it was made, but that film cures insomnia.
Caprica doesn't need more action necessarily, it just needs something to happen. It also needs people to talk to each other instead of keeping secrets that no sane mortal would.
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but cant. much like the latter half of BSG the characters are almost entirely unlikeable and the story has no focus or forward momentum.
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Mar 26, 2010 12:54:10 PM CDT
Teenage Angst Robots arent nearly as fun to watch as killer robo
by saen
Ill watch caprica on hulu on sat mornings with my breakfest; but it no where near as enjoyable to watch as BSG was. Adama's plotline is dumb, oh hes searching for the sentient software program that acts like his daughter... why does anyone care? The only good parts of the show involve the robot.
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Yeah, they rolled out every trite cliche in the book in the first half of season one, but I think it's not too late for this show. And where's my Eureka?
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...if more time had been given to the Soldiers of the One story line. It started off with a literal bang via the train explosion, but the big, ongoing investigation regarding the Soldiers of the One was supplanted by all the soap opera happenings.
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IMHO Greystone and Adama, while dealing their grief, should have been using all their combined powers (i.e. wealth and mob muscle) to conduct their own investigation and fight with respect to the Soldiers of the One.
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I agree that Zoe's character (or lack of, actually) should be more likeable. (not just fuckable) I still don't believe her hatred of her father, short of a glitch in the copy. The explanation seems tacked on. One would think that dying would rattle her enough to get over the usual teen angst against her parents, and want to take comfort with them, at least one of them, anyway. A likeable Zoe would, I think, be more interesting in the long run, because the viewer would care more about her predicament. Plus, supposing she wanted to reconcile with her father and revealed herself to him. What would that mean if he still had to use her in military app's? Or had to knowingly make many more copies of her in order to make the Cylons work? This would open up a whole slew of different conflicts, including a whole new kind of 'sibling' rivalry.I agree that the mother is not just unlikeable, but far more stupid than believeablity would allow. And Sister Cellulite is only marginally interesting and barely believeable. The show drags when they are on the screen.I have come to be interested in the Adama daughter in NewCapCity and her father's search for her. I'd like to know who's up in the Zeppelin - eventually her? I also agree with those who want the history to advance to other 'eras' and areas of the history of the cylong story maybe as soon as next season. I liken the shift to the well told miniseries Taken. It covered decades and made you care about the whole story arc as well as individual characters caught up in it.
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It's why I gave up on BBC America: they show long completed series, but break them into 6-8 episode seasons, then show one new season a year. 8 Weeks, then WAIT 44 WEEKS, then 8 more new weeks, rinse, repeat.Syphy seems to think this is somehow wise: DRAG it out, then blame the show when viewers lose interest or forget entirely.This is all from the NBC in-bred family of execs: sure, 5 hours of PrimeTime Leno will Be GREAT. Sure, Booting Conan out and Putting Leno back will be GREAT. Heroes had ONE Great first-season, so it will be GREAT to let them hack down to bits over the remaining seasons. It is GREAT to develop no new scripted shows It is GREAT to screw our viewers on all of our channels--We get them on Basic, we get them on Broadcast. OUR SUCKAGE CANNOT BE SUPPRESSED!.
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Most UK seasons are 6-8 episodes only. They don't have 22-26 episode seasons the way the US does.
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I'm sick of seeing anything to do with this piece of shit.
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i have yet to see this series (but intend to once it hits DVD)... but i hope this article's title refers to a Warwick Davis cameo in the finale.
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Mar 26, 2010 4:55:36 PM CDT
yea, but BBC_A airs shows that are years old, long completed,
by chromedome
and completely finished, with all seasons "in the can" and they STILL run em as if they were new, only showing one short season year.I'd understand if they were showing current programming from BBC, but they are showing series that finished in 2005 like this.
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Hopefully, SyFy will change their Modus operandi in time for the next BSG spin off and offer 20+ episodes per season with short breaks in between.
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Spartacus (on Starz no less) gets the same numbers as Caprica. So my question is..... where the hell is a Spartacus talkback. I don't understand why this site only caters to a handful of shows.
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they air 2 half seasons about 3-4 mos apart
2 half seasons of 10 eps
They've been doing this starting about 5-6 years ago with SG-1
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Caprica4evar?
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that they started calling 1/2 seasons, seasons and getting idiots to pay full season prices for 1/2 season DVD's
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This show is mind numbingly boring.
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15 years Cause thats what I really want to see the beginning of the 1st Cylon war How Bill Odama gets interest in the military stuff like that.
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then flash to girls in room talk, more girls in room talking...bad cgi robot...more talking.
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They should flash forward to Bill Adama's college years, where he meets a freshman named Gayus from the colony of Aerelon. Then, we can find out what Bill really learned from his uncle.
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VR5.
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summers only
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You're not going to see him unless a Whedom alum is in the title of a TB.
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Mar 26, 2010 7:14:31 PM CDT
Caprica is a well done drama that just gets better as it grows
by greatczarsghost
I'm looking forward to the fall
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Mar 26, 2010 7:19:52 PM CDT
And by the way.. Ware house 13 is for ages 9 to 12 and that's pu
by greatczarsghost
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Mama, (oops) Sister Warthog will be in 4 mos when the show returns
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Replace it with an hour of paint drying. No one would notice the difference.
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FOX CANCELLED 24!!!!!!!!!!
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I think he's prepared some kind of food in every ep I've seen
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Mar 26, 2010 8:56:27 PM CDT
Caprica is getting good, too bad it took 10 episodes.
by stereotypical evil archer
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but Skiffy needs to increase the budget a bit. The Mansquito quality CGI during the van chase was embarrassingly bad.
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Ha...good one. That was pretty bad.
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I can recall Roxann Dawson's episodes of Voyager and Enterprise being pretty good, too. They definiftely handed her a hell of a script for this finale. Very climactic indeed!!
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How the hell is Verizon going to tease brief commercial breaks and then only do it for the first ad? Bullshit.
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He can resurrect the dead, he can use that to force her to cooperate with him. It will probably take him another season or two to figure out he could have used this to his advantage. For a smart guy, he's damned slow. Actually, they will probably just forget little details like that when the show returns. I honestly feel like there is no continuity from half-season to half-season on most of these shows now, so it doesn't really pay to care enough to guess where it's going. I'm impressed that the show even has me thinking like that though, it was the most boring sci-fi show I ever saw when it started.
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Excellent ending to the first half-season.
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and I did not care. The show is a bore.
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He's a big part of each show, and the worst. Soooo boring. Most of the children of the one or whatever is also kinda crappy. The development of cylons are where the real meat is at. Everything else in this show is sub par.
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especially considering the people involved. It can still be easily saved, but there's so much about it (show direction and writing and more often then not, acting, directing, editing) that just doesn't work... Admittedly, there's been some improvement the last ep or so but it's still plagued with poor ideas, planning and execution from the opening title sequence onwards. If it's an issue of budget then all the more reason to get rid of the non-essential characters and story lines.
It's been incredibly frustrating because the creation of the cylons should be rich with great, epic stories. This should be a great hour of television...
Hopefully they've made significant improvements for the fall. If it's more of the same I think I'll have to pass. Though I'll still look forward to anything else RDM develops.
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I've keeping an open mind, got more interested when Tamara looked like she was about to go all Neo. But (spoilers) 3-4 episodes of hunting her to do that? (No shock she was going to "kill" her father by that point. Though it took me a few seconds to figure out why she shot herself first.) 3 episodes of the same flashback scenes over and over? Even the flashback from chase motif felt like a boring retread. It felt more like they were saying "there'll be action, honest, just hang in there" rather than it being an attempt to create tension. Giving people too long to think about what's going on (and I mean 3-4 weeks) takes away any of the tension. It wasn't a shock when Amanda jumped. It felt more like "OK, we get it, stop dragging the scene out." I was thinking it was picking up and I could get into the show, but that episode was a mood killer. Not keeping me on the edge of my seat 'til fall. Rather, if they can't pick up the pace on a cliffhanger episode, I'm starting to fear they won't pick up the pace ever.
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what do you want in an episode. you had the death of one major character and 2 minor characters. a failed assassination. an admittance by Daniel to her that caused her to do it that is going to drive him fraking insane even more than he is.
Zoe's fate is still in the balance. Her best friend had to kill for her. To save her own life that was put in jeopardy in order to help her.
You had special effects with the chase. The reveal of Zoe to the lab guy and then she kills him.
Tamara kills herself and then the avatar of her dad to keep him out of the game.
The reveal of Emmanuel's true identity.
What more do you want in an episode?
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Who was it that said the secretary was the guide? DAMMIT!!
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But sometimes it feels to me like I am watching a deliberate highbrow soap opera like "Madmen" rather than good Sci-Fi and that ending really punched the ticket for "melodrama" if I ever saw it. For all it's faults though it's still better than 90% of the television landscape.
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Mar 27, 2010 2:54:04 AM CDT
re: How long til Graystone controls Zoe thru dead boyfriend?
by nippleeffect
He needs Zoe's original avatar to make another avatar. He didn't code the original. He copied hers and made the copy a blank to make Tamara's avatar.
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Mar 27, 2010 6:44:44 AM CDT
SF could learn a thing or two from their sister network
by the mcpoyle clan
USA does a much better job of splitting their seasons up, and letting the viewers know exactly when to pay attention again. But then SyFy is a shitty network and USA a pretty good one.
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Total Crap! I tried so hard to like it. The only thing about it worth watching was the Cylons. Other than that it is BORING garbage. BTW so is Stargate Universe. UGGGHHH what crap it is also. The good news is that now with Lost and 24 off the air, the only shows I can stand come on CBS on Monday night and I can get them for free. No longer any need to pay for Direct TV! Time to watch old movies and listen to good music and read more books. TV is OVER.
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it suffers from serious ADD. It really doesn't know what type of show it wants to be. Is it a family drama? Is a mob show? A corporate drama? Is a Matrix rippoff? Is it a about questioning the borders between religion and science? A terrorism based crime show?
The problem is when you try to do so many things, nothing gets the attention it deserves. I see a lot of good ideas and characters (a long with a lot of bad ideas and characters), but nothing is getting flushed out enough to really care. Plot lines get introduced and dropped for episodes.
I think I would care more if they would have just focused on the Graystones and either left out the Adamas or at least made them minor characters. The whole Adama storylines have seemed to already played themselves out and we are half way through the first season. -
if Ron Moore gave everyone a DVD of "Rome" and made them watch it before the next writer's retreat to plan season two.
What "Caprica" needs is epic sweep. "Rome" worked because it was about both the big idea of the end of the Roman Republic and the lives of ordinary Romans.
Keep the Greystones and the Adamas but, let them rub shoulders with the Caprican President.
Let's get our asses to Gemenon and the other colonies.
Why does the Caprican military need 100K military robots ASAP? Is it involved in some publicly unpopular meat grinder war with some third world colony?
What I would like to see as my own personal fan wank is an homage to Lucifer from BSG-TOS. Give Vergis his own domestic robot. Maybe called Lucy 4 (get it). Billy West does a killer Jonathan Harris so hire him for the voice. It might add a little humor to what is a very dark show. -
If anyone didn't think that was an excellent episode then you should turn in you BSG club membership card. Most of you morons are still trying to figure out the series finale and wondering when God became important(1st fucking episode of the mini series morons). Anyway now the lonnnnnng ass wait for the 2nd part of season 1. Now let me get disgusted and read some of your posts..
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Look in the toilet the next time you take a shit and theres a ton of blood in the bowl. That was a great episode. The majority of talkbackers are idiots. Go fuck yourselves.
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I bet half of these fucktards slammed Supernatural after it's first few episodes.
AICN talkbacks are full of hate and bile. Those that enjoy good TV do well to keep away.
"Waaahh, waaah, God did it, WTF" is all I see when Caprica talkbacks start. If you loved BSG for the space battles then Caprica isn't for you. Right, i'm going to sit down and watch last nights episode and judge it myself. -
would have been to ahve kept Sister Chubby in the car when it blew. The aftermath could have looked like that japanese city when the whale blew up!
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Gotta love people who think they are intellectually superior to other people because they like a TV show. Sorry, I have yet to see an American made TV series that ever required more than an average intelligence to understand fully. I include this show. Usually, when people on this board don't like a show, it is because they just don't like it. Not that they don't understand. You do realize most TV choices are based on taste, not intellegence.
I personally don't hate the show. I think it lacks focus which weakens the stronger aspects of the series. If they are more focused in season 1.2 and don't have endless plots and subplots that takes away from the central themes of the show. The show would benefit more from taking a less is more approach. Cut out some of weaker plotlines and characters and flesh out some of the stronger plotlines and characters. This show does not have a strong enough anchor to tie all the storylines together like BSG did. Caprica seems to be going into 100 different directions with not a strong anchor to hold it all together.
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BSG was bad for padding out its series, but starting off a new series with 9 episodes of padding is insulting. Nothing happens for 9 episodes, then in the final 5 minutes they inch the story forward as a tease for the rest of the season that we have to wait half a year for. The only we to keep me watching is to air the rest of the season straight away (apparently they've been filmed!) and come May, start filming season 2. Methinks they're planning six months of re-shoots based on the tepid response the show has had to date.
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It somehow seems more appropriate to advanced technological society (Caprica or Earth in 2010) than Monotheism. I like the idea of monotheists being relegated to terrorists/nut cases.
This makes Caprica as a show quite political. It's strange Douche Limbaugh didn't criticize it yet. -
It's not that nothing happened, it's that it took so long to get there that it drained all the anticipation. Even within the single episode they did a repeated retread on 1. the non-engaging (pun intended) chase and 2. the repeated flashbacks to Amanda's brother. So many things seemed foregone conclusions at this point. The assassination was going to fail, obviously. No tension. Lab boy had to die, since he (a) found out about Zoe and (b) wasn't in the chase scene which also deviated from Zoe's plan.
More to the point, we don't know that Amanda died nor what it would do to Daniel. And since things happen in slow motion, by the time Daniel unravels (if he does), it'll probably be long past due.
Then there were the absurdities: was that road block made of concrete half-pipes? Barnabas having to prove to the audience that he's the more evil terrorist by randomly threatening his bomb expert. Plus, they can sneak a huge bomb into Clarice's trunk but not a tiny receiver? Lab boy knowing the specs on the U-87, but still sounding a very audible alarm within arm's reach.
Anyway, I didn't set out to dislike anything about this show. I've been approaching it with an open mind. (And, I'm really getting pissed off with people criticising Polly Walker's looks. Spend less time on the porn sites and reacquaint yourself with what real people look like. I imagine most would find her fairly attractive in person.) -
Is it just me or was there a missing episode between this one and the one last week? I feel like we missed something with Joseph Adama's downward spiral and the bit in the "previously on" with Sister Clarice talking about Barnabas and STO symbol on the sotlen bike poster. What's up with that?
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Or missing scenes?
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I do have to agree with the plot holes. I scratched my head too when I found out that they snuck a bomb in the trunk of Sister Clarise's trunk, but needed Lacy to plant the detinator like they couldn't have just planted that with the bomb. I also thought it was a bit absurd that Cylon Zoe can make thunderous noise walking into the board room because she is so heavy and just is able to jump into any random truck and drive off. And here additional weight would still not allow here to ran through the front end of two cars at the end of the show. I know minor gripes, but just some of the stupid plot holes show runners never think of or choose to ignore.
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I think they just blew it with the Adama becoming a V-World junky. Part of my original problem with their ADD. I think they didn't have time to explore the downward spiral to advance the overall story and just basically had other characters tell us he was a junkie rather than let us see him get hooked.
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I keep waiting for him to cut up some vegetables or fruit with such intensity, that he keeps going through his thumb. I have never seen someone cut so much veggies up and then not eat them...it's like they build you up with his passion and intensity in cutting, he just keeps cutting, finishes one pepper then MOVES ON TO THE NEXT!!...whew! so much excitement!
On another note, I sat there watching the episode last night and when they showed something, I said out loud what was coming next. True, I was just guessing, but all my guesses were dead on. Shows how predictable Iron Chef Caprica is. -
Perhaps when Siffy brings Iron Chef Caprica back, they'll be a scene where they show Greyskull from behind in the kitchen and we hear him chopping, endlessly chopping. Zoom in to see his knife, pulling back slowly to reveal(which they could probably stretch to 15 minutes because he has to stop to smoke a cigarette) that he is chopping up dead boyfriend.
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a mini series. The Greek morality play elements work well... Kind of like that series Kings from last season. But the Zoe Greystone material reminds me of the romantic scenes in Attack of the Clones - overwrought and dull.
This should have been a 10 hour miniseries chronicling the creation of Cylon artificial life and the cultural, political and religious implications of that act. Sort of the West Wing meets Roots meets BSG.
There just is not enough material to support a full series, you can tell they are already stretching it... and while I like long episodic story arcs, it has to take you somewhere with lead ups and then pay offs along the way. So far this series feels like a type of purgatory.
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please let me second that emotion about sister warthog (no other name shall be used here for her from now on) she should have died that would have kept us all watching...letting her live give this show some kind of repugnant stench ill grant u that...i change the channel just like u do ...
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Remember a few episodes back when Tamara went all badass and it seemed she was going to take over Mafia Wars? She told the kid to send her father in to find her.
Then Joe spent how many weeks searching for her? WTF was the point of any of that? Why wasn't she simply waiting for him, why was she hiding from him? None of that stuff makes ANY sense now. -
First season of Caprica? Not so much...Stoltz is the whole show, I fear he's not enough.
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Yup. Agreed.
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Still, this was the best episode of the series so far. I just wonder if the next half season will consist of 9 dragged out episodes followed by a great season finale.
Will Sister Clarice be pissed that one of her husbands was blown up by Barnabas? Will Amanda die and see her brother, before being resuscitated the same way Lucy Lawless (D'anna) kept on dying in order to see the final five? Will Daniel create an avatar of Amanda and stick her in a Cylon body?. Will Daniel stumble upon his dead lab assistant's avatar and download it into another Cylon? Wll Virgis frag Daniel's sorry ass and download him into a Cylon body? (Now that would be poetic justice!) Will Daniel ultimately be used as the prototype of the 13th Cylon Daniel that Cavil kills in a Cain and Abel moment? Stay tuned for just twenty-seven short months to find out the answers to these exciting questions and more! Same Crap time, Same Craprica channel! -
Mar 27, 2010 5:03:40 PM CDT
P.S. Bryan Singer confirmed to Producer & not Direct X-Men: 1
by merlin_ambrosius
Although whoever directs will work from a script which was developed by Bryan Singer, and which was written by Jamie Moss.
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Mar 27, 2010 5:04:45 PM CDT
P.S. Bryan Singer to Producer & not Direct X-Men 1st Class
by merlin_ambrosius
and whoever directs will work from a script that Singer developed, written by Jamie Moss.
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Mar 27, 2010 5:06:14 PM CDT
P.S. Bryan Singer to Producer & not Direct X-Men 1st Class
by merlin_ambrosius
Although whoever directs will work from a script which was developed by Bryan Singer, and which was written by Jamie Moss.
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whats with the triple off topic post
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It's okay if you are not intelligent enough to understand why it's good. The world needs ditch diggers, too.
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Had a little trouble with text getting truncated. Sorry. If there is a moderator please delete the 1st two versions.
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Legend of the seeker? Really?
Caprica has improved dramatically since the start, although those ratings are horrendous. The long hiatus is not going to help the ratings next fall. -
are not that bad if you count the Live + 7 numbers.
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Cool nickname.
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sure they could have placed the detonator. but they needed to know her loyalty and if she couldn't do it then force her to and hold it over here.
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Mar 27, 2010 10:30:30 PM CDT
Barnabas was going to give Lacy and Zoe to the SOTO leadership
by chain
I'm sure he thought if he gave up the killer of Willow and gave them Zoe he would be rewarded with Willow's old position.
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I think it's cool.
It's not perfect. There are some pretty bad moments that obviously haven't been thought through enough, BUT it seems to me that a lot of the people complaining are BSG fans who don't get enough BSG moments.
They want Cylons, space battles, war etc. So do I, if I'm honest, but BSG is over. At the end of the day, Caprica is probably the deepest, most intelligent show on TV right now (at least potentially). It's a pity that most of Caprica's audience are intelligent too, so we can see Espensen's buffy style plot holes, but it's still better than most of the shit we're spoon fed.
I'm tired of watching American shows. If they even try to be interesting or even slightly smart, they get cancelled. At least Caprica started off that way & they're trying! Maybe people should think of the rest of the shit we have to put up with before we moan about something that at least tries to be smart & deep.
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GO FUCK YOURSELVES!!!
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I know this is jumping in on the end of a dead topic, but just wanted to mention this. It was fairly obvious to me that the reason they had Lacy plant the detonator wasn't because they couldn't get to Clarice's car, it was to make Lacy culpable. Before they were going to trust her she needed blood on her hands. It was the price. From Barnabas' perspective, Lacy was a prep school girl who wanted to pretend to play terrorist in order to get something that she wanted. Having her be responsible for a bombing is both for his own security as well as the price for his assistance.
Also I didn't think Dr. Philomon's actions were that surprising... after all despite everything he had shared some sort of relationship with Zoe, and I think Zoe didn't have any intention of killing him when she struck him. I guess I'm just dumb but I had assumed the reason he wasn't in the van with Zoe in the beginning was because he let her go and remained behind. I wasn't expecting her to kill him.
As far as a cylon being to heavy to drive a van... it looked like the same van she was transported to the house from the lab in, it must have been built to carry larger loads. Why did the van flip? Well the obvious reason was the director decided it would be more dramatic then having her lose control and crashing... That's not necessarily a plot hole, more of an artistic flourish... I'm sure you roll your eyes every time there's sound in space too. But if you want a possible explanation, we don't know what they laid down beyond the cars, and since there was so much weight in the front of the vehicle with both the engine block and the, as mentioned, very heavy cylon, with almost no weight in the back, a sudden head on impact may make it possible for the van to flip.
I don't think Caprica is a perfect show, or even really a great show. I think it has the possibility to be great, but right now it's just too aimless. I'm kinda hopeful that the next part of the season will be better because, if I remember correctly, Jane Espeson stepped down from running the writing room about this point. I keep on coming back because I like the cast, there are threads of the story that I enjoy (particularly Sam, although he isn't given much to do). And I hope we'll get to the meat of the story soon, to the beginnings of the cylon uprising.
The biggest disappointment for me has been Joseph Adama's role. I was interested to see the man who casts such a huge shadow over BSG. The motivations and the struggles Lee and his father had all seemed to come back to conflicting views of Joseph. I was hoping to see him be the powerful lawyer he's described over and over again in BSG... so far all I've seen is him paying of judges. Lampkin said that Adama became a defense attorney so he could stare into the darkness of men's souls. Having such an important character to the overall mythology of BSG essentially spin his wheels for ten episodes is pretty inexcusable.
I'm hopeful that they'll finally find a voice and a direction for this show, because the pieces are all there for something remarkable. Fantastic cast, established mythology, a lot of different possibilities (especially depending on how far into the future they go). -
is that you can get a shows creators and fans masturbating in perfect cadence while they tell each other how intelimegent they are
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I think there is. Lets see. 12 colonial planets plus bases, etc. Decades of history. I'd have to say that there is. I think it's a matter of approach. I think they missed a bet by not having the first few episodes (at least) be a History Channel introduction to the 12 Colonies. Then zoom in on stories relevant to the cylon arc. I like the analogy to the series Rome, as well.There is no need for the slow views of people smoking. There is SO much material to cover if done with the sweep and depth and with attention to the appropriate individual stories. I like a lot of what has been done, but I keep thinking about what is missing from it all.
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Writers, Director's & Producers are offered more money if they have their characters smoke.
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Nuf Said.
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Good point. It would be great to see the history of the 12 Planets and how they became the 12 Colonies... but instead we have been exploring a virtual world, which we have seen many many iterations of in other franchises.
I think the problem is that they got cute with the Cylon origin. A friend of mine has had the opportunity to write for a couple of series like Queer as Folk and one of the CSIs and according to him, it apparently happens a lot in writers' rooms - "how to make this dramatic" can be fatal. Especially when it is a fundamental plot of character point. The idea that a 16 year old girl is trapped in a Cylon body is a compelling idea, but I am not sure that it can support an entire series.
RDM, Espenson and their peeps should have tested the veracity of the idea better. It brings an otherwise well produced and acted series to a dead stop.
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I was right about who Adama's helper person was in V World!
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Awesome call. When Emmanuel first appeared, there was something her that made me think of Adama's 'Girl Friday' and I had hoped it was her. Glad we weren't disappointed. At least about that.
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Awesome call. When Emmanuel first appeared, there was something her that made me think of Adama's 'Girl Friday' and I had hoped it was her. Glad we weren't disappointed. At least about that.
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I don't know how that double post happened. Sorry 'bout that.
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Thanks!I've seen it happen too with new film writers/directors. If they would come from a "play it straight" approach, the drama and any incidental humor would come naturally from it. It's like the creators were rushed to the point of being afraid to really flesh out the worlds this series involves. Very myopic. There should be a broader scope that gives the individuals more meaning. That doesn't mean spoonfeeding, but it does mean providing a context which invests the viewer more in the outcomes of the smaller stories.If they can come up with a 'Tonight Show' to forward the story, they could come up with a 'Ken Burns/History Channel/documentary' to provide the bigger picture and a sense of place and time.
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Thanks! Just finished watching the episode on Hulu. Pretty good. A little rushed, which is odd seeing how slowly paced the show has been so far. I LOVE this show but it definitely needs to find it's rhythm.
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LOL! I have no problem understanding why people like it. I have no problem understanding all the underlying themes. Heck, anyone with an eighth grade Social Studies course can figure it out. My problem is that it is trying to be a deep show with shallow characterization and plot development. They are bouncing around so much that they gotta fill in so many blanks of what they are trying to accomplish or feel in dialog (Joseph's adiction, Zoe basically telling everything she is doing to Lucy while they are in the V world because she gets so little screen time). The show is so over the place that they spoon feed the audience stuff a lot which doesn't take any intelligence. If you can't see it, it might be you might want to invest in a shovel.
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around the podcast for episode seven or so even Eicke admits that even he and Ron Moore are kind of disappointed with how the show is turning out.
Eikce admits that they tried to do a Soap and the material requires a bit more of Galactica's gravitas.
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It is clear that Moore and Eicke are just too stupid to understand why the show that they created is so good. The morons are just intelligent enough to create the material, but too dumb to understand what they have written.
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no, it just proves if you throw enough shit at a wall some of it will stick
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I admit I was totally blindsided by Emmanuel being Adama's assistant
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I agree with those who are seeing what appear to be problems with Adama versus what we learned of him second-hand on BSG.Perhaps he had to have his cage rattled to pull his head out of his Tauran underworld way of doing things. Perhaps what we've seen this season is what changes his character into the one we've heard about that inspires Apollo.Or, perhaps, what was passed down the family about him was a pile of daggit droppings to cover up the real story...
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Do you watch South Park? The last episode was basically about the boys writing the most offensive book they could possibly think of, for no reason except that they could (and they were mad at how unoffensive Catcher in the Rye was), and people picked it up and read whatever they wanted in it, and declared it the best novel ever.
I love Caprica, but I have a feeling that's what is happening here. We're all finding subtext that wasn't necessarily supposed to be there, but to us it's there anyways. And I love the show for that :) -
Oh, Christ on a crutch, I swear to god if I hear one more person spout off ridiculous nonsense about having characters smoking in the TV show because tobacco companies are paying them I might do something that will land me in jail by the end of the day. The characters are f*cked up. They smoke and drink to deal with their f*cked up lives. Is that really that difficult to believe? And do you really think the tobacco companies want all of the consumers of their product in a TV series to be completely out of their gourds? Does anyone say "Big Alcohol" is paying to have all these f*cked up characters drinking liquor all the time? NO! Because it's frakking ridiculous, but we're so sensitive in this society about people smoking a goddamn cigarette that every time we see one on TV it's a goddamn conspiracy. I don't even smoke, and this pisses me off! I swear, you wouldn't hear this much bitching from people if the characters were shooting up HEROIN on screen, god forbid they smoke a completely legal product.
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the raping of the Stargate franchise continues
SG: Phew has thus far ranged from really bad to almost good
The show suffers from not having one likeable character
Really boring plots for the most part
Time was a decent plot, but since all the characters are unlikable, your in a *meh, who cares* mental state -
FrodoFraggins...
Have you watched every episode of both shows? I have. -
Spoiler alert. In season 17 of Caprica, we'll find out that there may be a link between the Cylons and the STO. The episode will be an entire Graystone Industries board meeting in real time interspersed with scenes of Amanda Graystone getting wasted while diagnostics are run on a mysterious robot downstairs. All this will lead to an epic Shareholder's meeting in season 18 where a motion is debated on the capping of executive pay at 18.5 percent of net profits. Daniel pushes hard for 19.2, but in the end it's 18.7 leading to some anguished, yet portentous, looks between Daniel and Amanda while dining at the trendiest new lakeside hotspot in Caprica City.
Luckily, just a few years later Caprica City is almost completely annihilated in an emotionally satisfying nuclear holocaust. -
You have to understand this show is written by people with little or no clue of how to tackle the Science Fiction genre. The disdain they have for action sequences, space shots, violence, killer robots fucking shit up...all of that is on full parade to all to see.
The religious thread is a total bore, and absolutely no one cares about a tepid teenage actor apparently trapped in the body of a stone killing machine.
These problems of storytelling ineptitude have existed since the pilot. The director didn't even want to do a big reveal scene of the Cylon Prototype for the pilot.
"It's not important," he said.
True story.
There is that level of disregard for the BSG universe by the writers that love nothing more than to hear their own droning, uninteresting dialogue and nothing else.
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