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Some things to watch for:
* “Chuck,” barely renewed last season, hit a series low last week, losing to a repeat of CBS' "How I Met Your Mother" even as NBC’s other Monday-night hourlongs rose. It got a bump following heavy promotion during the Olympics, but the secret-agent dramedy has been slipping since. The premiere of “Dancing With The Stars” and a new episode of “How I Met Your Mother” battle “Chuck” for 8 p.m. tonight.
* Also hitting a new season low last week: “House.”
* “24” hit another downtick, but stayed above its season low of three weeks ago.
* The CW's on-the-bubble dramedy “Life Unexpected” rose last week to beat already-renewed “Gossip Girl” in total viewers for the first time, and did better in 18-49 last week than “90210,” which has also already been renewed for next season:
THE CW
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Tried to watch it a couple of times, just didn't find anything appealing about it. Hoarders on the other hand is awesome.
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Impressive vocabulary usage Herc.
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test
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Chuck does something zany and wacky
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Yeah, mint may freshen your breath, but bubble gum is much more fun.
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We can play that game every day of the week.
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With a very funny cast and a really hot blonde chick. What's not to like about that? Every single tv show can't be about dope-selling suburban moms, serial killers, mob killers, prostitutes, etc, etc, etc. Can't we just enjoy a little fun now and then?
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sour ass
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That's all I have to say about that.
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If Heroes is dead too? 24 the replacement?
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...then there must be less people watching network television, since those are the only two watchable shows on in that time slot.For those not watching it - though why someone who doesn't watch a show would read a talkback about it, I have no idea - Chuck has incorporated some major game changers. Some may be un-doable, others are seemingly permanent alterations to the shows status quo. In short, things are happening at such a pace that if the creators of the show were given a half dozen episode warning of an impending cancellation, they could probably tie everything up in a way that would make Chuck a very enjoyable to rewatch DVD package.With five hours of Leno time to fill, it's probably easier for National to keep what it has than to increase the number of hours it needs to fill.I'm sure this is a minority opinion, but I thought this last season of Heroes, while it still had repetition and continuity and pacing flaws, was the best full year of the series ever (though it's popularity will never match the middle third of season one, which was it's peak in that regard.)House is simply a show I'm prepared to continue watching for another five or ten years, the way some people followed ER.
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Mar 22, 2010 1:44:25 AM CDT
Sutherland = Willis, was great, now can't stop makin crap
by vulcan_csc_rep
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They wrapped the Chuck season finale this week. It was a cliffhanger.
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They should of know better than to bring her into it. She was way cuter and more appealing than Sarah and to drop her like he did just chilled the whole vibe.
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Mar 22, 2010 1:50:40 AM CDT
What if Willis fought Sutherland? Gun fight thru city streets
by vulcan_csc_rep
They would be unable to kill each other, but just as it started to get too boring - ALIENS!!! Then they would have to team up and defeat the invading hordes!!!!!
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If Chuck's ratings suck, I'd still give it at least a good a chance for renewal as Heroes. Probably even better, since Chuck doesn't have the negative vibe associated with it.I'd say both would get short orders on strict budgets, with a flexible "ending" and see what happens. One can debate whether Chuck's changes have worked, but at least it's not getting moldy like 24.
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It's not trying to be serious and failing, like 24. It's not trying to be philosophically deep and failing, like Caprica. It's not trying to be a comedy and failing, like The Cleveland Show. It's not trying to be a special fx laden geek friendly show and failing, like Heroes. It's not trying to be a clone of a procedural or previously successful show, like "CSI:Here we go again".
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But not by much.
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Sure, there are plot holes big enough to drive a Mack truck through, but that's not the point. The characters are funny, and the writers aren't half-trained chimps jumping on typewriters like so many other shit series out there. If Chuck goes another season it'll be up for syndication - I hope it makes it, because the episodes are rewatchable.
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If Chuck ends on a cliffhanger I hope that means it will be renewed. if not, I hope it's an interesting ending anyway.Joan of Arcadia season one and Andromeda season one were both examples of season finale cliff hangers that would have worked perfectly as series endings if the shows had finished there. So that can be done, tough it's probably tricky to pull off.Jimbo, I've enjoyed Human Target the times I've remembered to watch it. Though since I've never seen 24 HT surprises me with how violent it is for a Fox show, especially for one based on a comic. but then I never read the Vertigo comic either. Chuck is a more charming show, but having a three person cast, Human Target is probably cheaper to make, so I expect we'll be seeing a lot more of that sort of thing and a lot less of shows with huge ensemble casts in the future.
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Cause we all know it isn't really earning one all its on its own so far this season.
Anyway, I've found Chuck to be very fun and enjoyable, but I also often find it difficult to devote complete attention to an episode. Its just not serious enough I guess, you always know its going to turn out okay for everyone one way or another. Very fun though. And sexy girls. -
Flash, Chuck! Flash!!
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Despite how much I like "Chuck"s charm, the stories feel a lot like the past seasons. Maybe not in details (the "game changers" VikkiMarsdale mentions), but there is only so many times the same formula can be recycled.
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But I got really bored with it this season and haven't watched in a long, long time. I just don't care about any of the characters.
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Lighthearted, with some geeky moments. Plus some serious moments and tongue-in-cheek action. It's something you can watch on a Monday night and enjoy without bringing you down.
And the formula is recycled? What show isn't? How about every CSI, NCIS and Law & Order. Hell, those don't even try anymore, and just rip their stories from real headlines. Plus, not everyone wants to watch murder, suicide, and a host of other crap that there is plenty of on the evening news.
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That is all....
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Cause I am excited for tonight more than any episode this season.
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If you're like me than you pretty much thought Hannah was the cutest and nicest girl in the history of the planet. So of course they get rid of her and put him back with the frowning spy bitch. Is there anyone besides psycho ex-girlfriends who care about Chuck & Sarah anymore? I know it's what the show is built on but when they brought in Hannah, I couldn't be more over it.
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My wife and I faithfully watch Chuck every week. My only issue this season is that bringing in Brandon Routh and Kristen Kreuk felt like a mistake. Routh is a horrible actor and the storyline with Kreuk kind of took away the overall charm of the show. They been working their way back and no suprisingly enough, the best episodes have been sans Routh. As crappy as Heroes was (yes I watched the crapfest), there is no reason to kill Chuck. Chuck will never do well in the slot its in. You just can't compete against those juggernauts.
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that show was a relentless good time the first two seasons. you had an even balance of spy drama and geek tomfoolery that were both a ton of fun. often, the nonsense at the buy more was more fun than the spy drama.
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Plainly: An hour long show that should be 30mins. How did this ever get an hour? Remember when Damon Wayans had an hour long comedy?...
The show hasnt changed at all since it's been on. Why the bad drama? Just keep it funny instead of trying too hard and being fake. The action is mafk'n stale. Zach Levy's back peddling acting sucks. Constant misuse of Baldwin. This show should of been about Baldwin's character. The 'buy more' got old first season. Just tired, not funny, or entertaining stuff all around. Oh and the 'special guests'- the writers need to write INTERESTING characters. If an actor isn't acting then the writing is usually terrible. -
She used to be in my top 3 hottest women on TV, but something has changed this season. Has she put on weight? Her face seems rounder. I'm a straight guy, but right now I have to say that Routh is the best looking person on the show. Damn, that guy is handsome. Throw in Awesome, and my wife is happy for an hour.
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Is Sons of Tuscon any good?
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Man, there are some serious question about some TBers I have. First, I saw some think Chloe on "Caprica" was "chubby." Now Sarah? Really? Both are smokin' class A hot. Either way, "Chuck" is not supposed to be deep thoughtful entertainment. It is fluff and meant to be fluff. We are in the midst of an economy as close to a depression as ever, wars with no end in sight, and people attacking each other over a silly thing like politics. "Chuck" helps us, for an hour, forget this. I hope it stays. We need the laughter.
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She was way hotter than that Aussy broad or that flat-chested brunette.
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I was a big fan of the show who stopped watching after 3.03. The show used to be fun but JS is a one trick pony who thinks people want to watch teen angst with the WT/WT between Chuck and Sarah (again). Boy was he wrong considering the tanking ratings.
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comes back towards the end of the season.
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apparently the 2 hour episode airing on April 5th is the best of the season...April 12th brings the retun of Charles Logan...
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And I don't care if Sarah is screwing someone else but really they could have picked a more interesting character than the bland Shaw.
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But I think that's a plot point, and a shitty one at that.Supes sucks, and I miss the Asian cutie too. However, I'm still deeply in love with Blondie McHighKicks, and Chuck's incestbait.
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Gave last weeks episode a shot, the show hasn't improved from the first couple I watched when it premiered. I was more interested in this this characters non-spy life. It lost me when it went into crazy land and all that software crap got stuffed into his brain. And hipsters blow.
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Who said Hannah was cuter than Sarah and it chilled the vibe to dump her like that. It was weird, kind of cruel.
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Mar 22, 2010 10:46:23 AM CDT
Looks like WWE RAW is NBC/Universal's highest rated Mon. show
by zillabeast
They should just air Pro Wrestling on NBC up against the CBS comedy lineup, DWTS, and House. That would be rather interesting.
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The fuck is that about? Nose pickers?
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Yet still the highest rated show????? How is this suppose to be a bad thing? Obviously a shitty week since spring break for a lot of people, so why it sound like getting first was a bad thing?
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Ratings were down almost completely across the board, no need to single out one show. Last week you had daylight savings time and an extra hour of sunshine and of course spring break. It'll probably pick back up tonight.
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I love chuck it is just a good fun show! I hope it moves to a different night (not friday) but I hope it is renewed!
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Bringing back Naked Mandy and ressurecting Nina Myers would make this a top show on TV. Why the heck are they so trigger happy to kill the meat and potatoes of this show at such a rapid pace?
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Most enjoyable hour on TV at the moment.
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Other then the australian babe, is this series really worth watching?
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Other then the australian babe, is this series really worth watching?
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The perfect show for a Monday night. Easy fluff, a likable cast. Looks like everyone is having a fun time. Something I don't have to think about after a shitty day of work after the weekend.
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They will save the show by making characters travel into paralel universes. Paralel universes always save shows dying from the lack of imagination of their creators/creative people.
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Tell the truth, friend: you watch it because of the australian blonde babe.
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Even though it's lighthearted fluff I actually found the second half of the first series really engrossing, and the finale was a belter.Second season misfired a bit dealing with the fallout from the finale but seems pretty much back on track IMO, last few episodes have been good fun. The characters are mostly cartoons, but they still have more to them than anyone in 24.
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What the fuck about SUNDAY!!! That has to be one of the BIGGEST NIGHTS in TV EVER RIGHT NOW! Last night there were probably no less then 20 either new shows or episodes on. Life Breaking Bad The Pacific Kendra Desperate Housewives Cold Case Brothers and Sisters Amazing Race Family Guy My Fat Life Cleveland Show Sons of Tuscan Minute to Win It Celeberty Apprentice Simpsons Extremem Makeover Undercover Boss Where all new.
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And some shit on MTV and VH1. Also Tim and Eric and ATHF.
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Naw chuck is a lot of fun. I don't just watch TV shows for good looking women. Plus there is just something off putting about her face. Its just a fun show, I mean its like the CSI: Miami of spy shows. Something just stupid and fun. I save all my dramatic tension for Breaking Bad, best drama this whole decade in either movie or tv.
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They've done Saturday Night's Main Event specials a few times in the past few years and they usually do terrible. RAW could do good I guess..WrestleMania is this Sunday and that's the best time of the year for wrestling.
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Shit's just getting good. =(
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Monday is the night I watch TV, and while I look forward to new episodes of Chuck and usually watch Castle, I find that I'm watching 24 mostly to fill the time between those other 2 shows.
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I've never watched it but I caught part of it the other day and it was all these comedians running around trying to help Keifer? Milton Wedams? Freddie Prince Jr? Rajskub? Slumdog?
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I'm a Lost addict, but Chuck is what I actually look forward to watching - it may be predictable, but it's lighthearted fun and loveable hero are unmatched in other programming.
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It was always a nice pleasant show to watch the last two seasons, almost instantly forgettable but the chemistry with the actors and the fun characters was great. this season it just seems to have run out of steam. I think after Chuck turned into NEO at the end of last season they made a huge mistake by basically trying to put all the characters back at square one.
I mean, so Chuck and Sarah are back to having secret crushes for each other and being all angsty. Really?
They should've moved on, changed things up, maybe even make Baldwin more the focus of the show.
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Really?!? Did people miss the bikini in episode one or the skin tight outfits they have her wear all season? She probably doesn't look as hot because they never let the woman smile anymore on the show. They have turned her into a real downer this season.
I do agree that the addition of Brandon Routh was a mistake. There is no chemistry between him and the other actors and his character is just a John Casey Lite mixed with Bryce Larkin Lite. I can't see how Sarah would be attracted to the guy for anything other than his looks. Routh is proving that his only talent is impersonating Christopher Reeves doing Superman.
Kristen Kreuk was better, but even her character was much of a rehash of Rachel Bilson's character in season one. It was also unbelievable that she would have a job that allowed her to fly first class and then take a job at the Buy More after being fired.
This season overall hasn't been as fun as the previous two. I think the love triangle is stupid and Sarah's worries that Chuck is becoming too much of a spy does not ring true (all the chick does is fall in love with spies). Dump Routh and I think most of the problems would be gone. Unfortunately, it appears he has signed on for more episodes.
Seriously, the more I see Routh, the only thing I like about the guy is his real life wife and her fabulous breasts. Dexter fans will agree with me on that one. -
is better than it's parent company's flagship network.
It's a pipe dream I know, but how cool would it be to see Caprica, Warehouse 51, Psyche, Burn Notice, and all the great Universal shows that are not on NBC, on NBC.
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Because her character was so great that no one cares about Sarah anymore.
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this is the leftover remnants from the debacle that was the Writer's strike.Didn't they debut this, bionic woman, sarah conner and Knight rider ALL at the same time???I tried watching an episode 1st season and THIS season, and couldn't.It's SO fucking bland and boring,it reminded me of those early shows from UPN( remember the WATCHER? if not-Wikipedia it)
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I kinda had a hard time telling her character from Rachel Bilson's myself. The only difference I could tell is one was a techie and the other owned a deli. Otherwise, I think they were the same person.
People probably don't care about Sarah as much anymore since she appears to be so shallow that she jumped into the arms of a charmless, personality free meat head like Shaw.
The ironic thing is other than their attraction to each other, both Chuck and Sarah have a definite "type" in their attraction to the opposite sex. Shaw and Bryce Larkin are almost interchangeable. Like Bilson's Lou and Kreuk's Hannah are about the same personality wise and have a similiar look. In fact, Jordana Brewster's Jill seemed to be about the same too when she was dating Chuck in college. -
Mar 22, 2010 1:41:48 PM CDT
chucks keeps chugging away, but goldmines like DEADWOOD
by idrinkyourmilkshake
are cancelled. Same thing with Life.all the good ones die early.
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Really, it just made me laugh. It was genuinely funny, and it actually related to the story instead of being some dumb tease to mislead you into reading some almost inconsequential snippet of nothingness (which I've seen all too many times on here).
Re: Chuck. I really hope that it does get one more season, if only because I think this season will have been a huge learning experience for them as to what things they should do and not do with the show and the characters. But, that said, I have to admit that this season simply doesn't compare to the first two, and if it doesn't get picked up again, it's their own fault. They badly mishandled the season. The writing wasn't as good... the storytelling was weaker, and things didn't evolve in organic, natural, logical ways. Honestly, you can look all over the net for really good explanations of the many things that have gone wrong. -
I watch everything Geek friendly. I just set my DVR, and off to work I go. When I get home Everything I watch is there waiting. And the guy who said Sarah is getting fat is a fat asshole. You are the reason women have problems with themselves. That women is a size 4 at the most. Most women in America are size 14-16. You need help. I watch Chuck Because of Adam Baldwin. The best "Baldwin brother." Who isn't even part of that family. If he leaves the show he should get his own.
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ALl of this concern for filling the Leno time is ridiculous. Each network has about 50 options to look at each year to fill slots. Digging out 5 extra choices isn't exactly requiring them to dig for water in the desert. They may not have built in audiences, but audiences are far more fickle in the past decade. A lot of shows have lost audiences between a first and second year...
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The show started out good and was fun. When they started with the out-of-place background music/noise, I found it distracting. I also think Chuck lost his cute factor. When Kreuk came along, I thought he might still have half a chance but the bad back ground music and the less cute Chuck was still too overpowering(like onions and garlic on ice cream). So please take Chuck and stick him
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When I said earlier that it felt like the formula was being recycled too much, I meant what Volstaff was pointing out. Despite the characters experiencing so much, it seems like they are treading the same ground. If the show is not going to have character progression, then the episodes should be written that way (like "Get Smart" or "Mission: Impossible"), instead of aiming for serial storytelling.
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Following a water buffalo around for three weeks until it dies from the septic bite of a komodo dragon? All reality shows should have a komodo dragon who wounds a cast member in the opening episode, I think... Then it's just constantly there in the background, patiently waiting for Snooki or the Situation or whomever to succumb to infection so it can skeletonize their corpses.
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"...there are plot holes big enough to drive a Mack truck through..." and then "...the writers aren't half-trained chimps jumping on typewriters..."
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Given up on it, Herc? Or are you now a pawn of the industry, posting ratings every other day? I used to love coming here when there were three or four TV show talk backs but now? This site sucks.
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Too. Funny.
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NBC can add...MORE REALITY TV!!!!Chuck is the only thing I watch on NBC now, and if that goes, I go.As for Kristin Kreuk, sorry. I couldn't watch her and not think about the black hole of sucktitude that was Lana Lang. Just with she had been evil so they could have really gotten rid of her.
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I've really been wondering. I hope its a massive failure.
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You are dead wrong, AGAIN. Chuck got almost ZERO promotion during the Olympics, NBC put all it's eggs into the "Parenthood" promotions. The only promotion Chuck got this year was a nice little campaign towards the end of December, after that - NADA. Chuck is not an NBC product it belongs to another studio so they don't have a huge interest in promoting it. This show has lived despite NBC idiocy (similar to FNL). In any case it's the only show left on TV that I had an attachment to after Dollhouse was canceled. If Chuck goes away I probably just shut my cable off. As for the rest of you trolls? Who's to say what you like or don't like - you seem to live to spread misery, filth, and bullshit. You people are so despicable I am caught between feeling sorry for you and wanting to take a lead pipe to your skulls to just end your wretchedness. How can anyone go through life spreading contempt for anything that doesn't cater to just their whim? The life of a troll must be very empty indeed.
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But marketing and promoting for the show is weak.
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There are plot holes and then there's shit like 24. It's supposed to be taken seriously and yet it has bad science, trite characters, and recycled stories. Chuck's writers focus on the characters; the "plot holes" are acceptable since it doesn't take itself too seriously.
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This season started a bit weak, but the last two episodes were possibly my favorite of the series. I like that they're not afraid to take it in new directions. Brandon Routh adds nothing but boredom to the show and should be removed ASAP.
It's never been a great show, but I usually enjoy it and it makes for a great Monday escape. Normally, I wouldn't mind if they canceled in, but I'm just about out of big network shows after this season. I watch Chuck, 24, Heroes, Lost, The Office and the Fox Animation block. Lost is ending, Heroes and 24 should be ending (and I suppose 24 is), and I can take or leave The Office. It's sad, but Chuck will be the only big-4 network show I give a damn about anymore. Sci-fi and the CW died on me too. If it weren't for AMC, HBO and Showtime, I'd only ever watch reruns of old shows. Hollywood is pretty fucked when they can't get a TV junkie like me to watch their new crap. -
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is the worst idea in a series of bad ideas. Shaw should have done the right thing and killed Morgan off because he's too much of a liability AND worst of all he's bad television.
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Hogan sure has paid off on Monday nights, eh?
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The Chinese are after Jack now!
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I sure hope Jack gives her a gun so they both can lay the smackdown on some terrorists.
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Why do you cast an actor who is tall, handsome and well-built to play a geeky nerd who is reluctantly drawn into the world of a secret agent?
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you know she is ready to fuckin kick ass, russian STDS and all.
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Chloe just pulled a gat!
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You've become as much of a sellout as Harry. It's pathetic.
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a fun show. I enjoy it every week. I could do without the Buy More scenes but will take what I can get.
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FUCK YOU, 24. FUCK YOU AND YOUR LOOPY DANA'S A PSYCHO AND HAS A BACKWOODS HICK BOYFRIEND AAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNND IS A GODDAMNED MOLE ASS RIGHT IN THE EAR.
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That's one of the worst, most desperate "twists" I've ever seen. I'm extremely disappointed. How incredibly lame. First she's a murderer from the south with a troubled past, and now she's a super counter-spy imbedded deep into ctu while in league with terrorists from whereverthefuckland working to destroy manhattan...which wasn't even their original plan which was to take them back to whereverthefuck? awful.
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another fucking CTU Mole?? Really? How can you be a 24 writer and actually pitch the idea of yet another fucking Mole? Fucking Lame
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Apparently, CTU is easier to get into than one of Capone's screenings.
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I can't stop fucking laughing. This is the absolutely loopiest, dopiest, fucked up retarded shit they have EVER pulled.
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Mar 22, 2010 9:11:37 PM CDT
Dana/Starbuck's a cold-blooded killer/terrorist mole?
by theghostwholurks
SO WHY DIDN'T SHE JUST KILL THOSE REDNECKS AT THE VERY BEGINNING, INSTEAD OF WASTING TIME HELPING THEM ROB THE GOVT. WAREHOUSE AND RISK HER ENTIRE TERRORIST PLOT GETTING CAUGHT???!!!! >:OMan... 24 writers are stupid. Don't waste 12 hours portraying someone as a wuss cowed into helping small-town simpletons on some penny-ante burglary and then expect us to believe they're REALLY stone-cold killers and terrorists on a tight schedule to set off a nuclear device.
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Garbageman33, verycoldinspace, and crow3711: I agree! I am sooooo close on giving up on this season of 24. Are the writers just changing names and tweaking plot points here-and-there from the same script, year after year???
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This is the FRECKLES BAUER that they should've started with this season.So Dana is a mole. I guess the shady background and the joke background check made it hard for viewers to figure it out. What shit writing.Jack and Freckles together kicking terrorists asses will make the remainder of this shitty season watchable.
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I mean I love way too much about 24 to give up on it and I realize that to script this kind of show can be a nightmare of intricacies filling every minute and connecting it all...so I give the show a lot of passes so I can continue to enjoy its greatness. But man this mole in CTU stuff has GOT to give! I mean it had to a long time ago! The original concept of Nina as a mole was great....and then to have another one was kinda like...dang! really? Guess they didnt learn! ...and on with the fun. But then...I mean come on how does this keep happening?? Where is the background screening? Or are the terrorists just so good at created fake pasts that CTU screening cant see through it? And ALL that was just part of the plan?? The relationship with redneck, engagement with Cole etc??? I just dont get what happened during this episode pitch in the script room. Just hope they get rid of her quick now. Dang Starbuck...how could you??
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You guys are acting like this was nuts? She had the ability to come up with a new identity by herself? The drones weren't transmitting info in the first episode of the season to catch the rocket launcher. She leaves at will.... She was on the phone with Hassan's daughter guiding her into the tunnel. Hence, she could have triggered the countdown.
Btw, I called this on January 19th, 2010.
http://forums.delphiforums.com/KS24/messages
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I had a horrible, horrible feeling they'd pull some stupid fucking shit like this. I'm just fucking stunned they actually did it.
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He's a producer on this show. He should have some sort of sway on where the story goes. Even he must have been like "Really?! Again??? WTF" when reading the script for tonight. He needs to go all Jack Bauer on the writers for the most ridiculous bullshit non-twist ever!
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Only if the kid was severely retarded.
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Dana being a mole is perfect writing. all of this time the audience is bitching about the dana story wondering what the point is. She was never concerned about her marriage...she was concerned about getting the job done. There were clues all throughout. The writers were disgusing the obvious mole...with the marriage and her job security. They tried to make people feel bad for Dana...when it was obvious otherwise that she was a mole. She was going to kill Kevin and his friend so she could keep her cover. But it was obviou that she still did have feelings for Kevin.
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...the problem is that it's totally inconsistent with her behavior as a character up until now. Her reaction and emotions just don't make sense if he was just a terrorist mole all along. This REEKS of something that was made up as they went along. STOOOPID!
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See, the point is, Shaw is the super efficient killing machine superspy ideal Chuck strives to be. So is Casey and to some extent so is Sarah. It's what Chuck thinks he wants and what Sarah is afraid he'll become.
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Its not that its nuts, its that it's been done countless times before in seasons past. I mean, come on. After all of the previous moles, don't you think CTU would catch on by now and have some sort of check in place?
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Well besides the fact that this is 24...and like James Bond, Jason Bourne, Jack Bauer (all JB initials btw) this is a show that basically reboots every season. Jack Bauer is basically a superhero. He's a james bond. How many moles have been in a James Bond movie. But even looking at it like that, these are the seasons with moles:
Season 1
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1st episode Dana was acting weird and placed the blame on Hassan's mistress. That same episode the drones were delayed and couldn't detect the drones. She clearly loved Kevin still. Once a criminal, always a criminal. She never changed. She couldn't deal with him because of her cover and she didn't want to have to kill him. She got him money and he didn't go away, so she had to take care of him herself. So she went to kill him. Remember, she was willing to kill two people in cold blood then and there. She neglected her job at CTU...KNOWING THAT SHE WOULD BE FIRED. She doesn't care. she plans on fleeing CTU that day anyway. She had to butter things up with Cole constantly to insure that Cole doesn't report the murders. If cole reported the murders, she'd be sidelined. This twist makes the show better. Now we don't have to bitch why a government agent would go missing for several hours. The reason is because she doesn't care. She was on the phone with Hassan's daughter guiding her into the tunnel. She was the only possible person who would know when to start the countdown timer on the EMP. Everything makes sense. She couldn't possibly get an idenity and a spot at CTU on her own. She needed a flawless identity created. The big bad that is yet to be revealed probably gave her that.
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At least someone is happy.
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Then she would've have just said "Yeah, sure, baby. Stay at my place as long as you want." Sorry. Not buying. Nice try, though. Okay, not really.
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It makes me think of how long I would have stayed into Reaper, if I had caught it earlier. I think I barely completed one episode of CHUCK this season, just aint got something, but I'm not sure what it is.
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*LOL* I frelling wish LIFE had an edit button sometimes!
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You don't have to buy it. The original plan was to bring the missles to Hassan's country so Dana needed to be a mole for several days. Having Kevin around the house and calling constantly wouldn't really help with that. Cole would come home and her cover would probably be blown pretty fast. I find it hard to beleive that you're sooooo pisssed about this twist...yet you loved the Tony twist last year. If anything didn't make sense last year, it was the Tony twist. A quote from you last year: "Not ENTIRELY happy with the Tony resolution, but once he killed Larry, it was about as good as they could do. It made sense that he was trying to draw out somebody higher up in the conspiracy, and the Michelle card AND the unborn son card sold it better than expected. The Kim-as-victim thing wasn't dragged out, so that wasn't so bad. Overall, I think it was a pretty fucking good season marred somewhat by some lackluster late episodes, and only partially redeemed in the end. But definitely worth the ride. I'll be here for Season 8." Should I have said to you last year, "Sorry. Not buying. Nice Try, though. Okay, not really." Quit being a dick and stop watching if you don't like it. Last season anyway.
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It's just really fucking retarded. If you honestly enjoyed it and can justify as making sense in your head, more power to you. I can't make that leap. Not in a million years could I make that leap. And for the record, the Tony thing wasn't much fucking better, it just wasn't THIS fucking retarded.
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Mar 22, 2010 10:09:58 PM CDT
I think Dana just became a mole in the script conference this we
by mgmax
Hardly the first time that they decided a character's arc wasn't working out (was stupid, in other words) and decided to completely change it. (Remember when Jack was undercover with the Colombian mob, and they scrapped that storyline entirely in hour 8 and just started over?) As completely unbelievable as it is, I'm much happier to see Starbuck playing a tough badass than teary-eyed white trash. Hell, make her a cylon in hour 20 for all I care, anything's better than wimpering about losing Cole.
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So sorry about that.
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I'm not overly thrilled with this season, but revealing that Dana is working with the terrorists does give some credence (and weight) to her story line, which I had absolutely HATED up until this point. Even though I still don't love it, at least it has some semblance of making sense. I couldn't figure out how some hick with a bad pass could have POSSIBLY came up with such an amazing cover with changing her name and her past that it would fool a government agency. Now that she's working with the terrorists, it makes sense. Granted the whole "mole" thing has gotten REALLY old, but in the context of this seasons story line, it now makes some sense.
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CatVutt you a true man
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Is that nobody cares about Dana. So when you spend an inordinate amount of time on a character that's been perceived by many as nothing but annoying, only to go 'surprise, she's yet another CTU mole!', the general reaction is either "Oh, FFS" or "who fucking cares?"
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and now she'll kill Milton in cold blood just to avoid having to talk to Hastings. I mean, I guess they figured "we can either have BOTH a mole AND a former redneck criminal working at CTU, or we can have them be the same person." Under that logic, sure, I guess, make Dana the mole. Would have been better to bury the redneck story and not have any moles. Plus did anyone see that ending on Castle?
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you're supposed to show up BEFORE Jack gets shot! It should have been Tony, screw the storyline.
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YER A GRRRRRRREAT MOLEY BASTARD!!
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It may not be quite as strong as the first two seasons but it's something I still enjoy in a mindless, comforting, feel-good sort of way... something that you really don't get to see these days. And I think the creators & writers have done a much better job then most people give them credit for. There's some definite skill in the way they've handled the (significant) changes and how they've put the show together.
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Nice ring to it, isn't it...
I'll miss Chuck only because of that Hot Russian babe and that Chuck's sister is HAWT too...
Most Network TV is cr@p anyway... LOST, Modern Family and a few others are an exception...
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It would mean that NBC fucktards suck monkey balls if they renew Heroes and cancel Chuck!
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The problem is they took the two most appealing characters (Chuck & Sarah) and turned them into the most unappealing: Chuck is a douche who dumps a genuinely likeable character who moved country to be with him, while Sarah - after holding Chuck at arms length for professional reasons - seems ready to jump into bed with their new boss. When Casey is being nicer to Chuck than Sarah is, the whole thing just feels off. As for Routh, he's great at giving off a creepy stalker vibe (as he did in Superman Returns) so if that's what the show-runners were aiming for, mission accomplished.
There was a point earlier this season where it seemed they were going to kill off Awesome, and for a second I thought they had elevated the show - making things interesting by adding an element of danger. I know, it's supposed to be light-hearted fun - but you need some conflict/tension to maintain viewer interest, and the only tension is the prolonged sexual/romantic tension, which is rapidly losing steam. My other half used to love this show, but now she agrees with Paulie Walnuts "I'm sick of this will they/won't they crap!".
To get their figures up, I reckon they need to turn around the two lead characters, resolve the romance one way or another, ramp up the action element, and add some dramatic tension to the mix. Not too much mind you, it is a comedy after all - but it's either that or make it more funny, which is much harder to do. More of the same is just getting boring. -
Another mole. How utterly delightful. Well, if we had to have a mole, I'm glad it's Dana. Now we can witness Jack put a bullet in her skull. Such a shitty character.
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There were a number of issues with the episode--instead of sitting in a car, Jack spends the episode trying to reach a freakin' call box that just happens to have a direct line to CTU (and each one of the CTU vehicles must carry an armory's worth of ammo); Chloe goes off on a Jack-like bender and pulls a gun on the NSA guy, and is instantly forgiven by formerly-by-the-book-hardass Bubba; more of the lame but standard 24 inter-agency turf wars, and the pompous ass who designed the shitty non-EMP resistant CTU. And poor Milton gets strangled in a holding room, which surely has some sort of surveillance, but I guess they'll cover that next week as part of the mole discovery process. The lone good thing was Rack returning to her badass ways, with her keen sense of Jack Detection.
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I like Chuck, but the Chuck/Sarah thing has become very tedious and off-putting.
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Good thing she got to play Starbuck first. If this was her into to the TV viewing public she would have a short career indeed.
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... of CHUCK was good or not to check it out. And all i get from the AICN geeks is this disparated opinions form left to right. Dude,s what is happening here? i though you used to be far more one voice in your opinions. I got that idea from the concensual opinions about JJ Abrams' FRAUD TREK in here. So, please, can anybody tell me, for sure, if the show is worthy or not? No half answers, please. Thank you.
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And i gave up on one episode. Each episode is supposed to represent one hour of the life of this guys. Give me a frucking break!!! What type of hour is that? how many minutes exist in an hour in the show 24? The shit that happens in each episode in this show is just beyond ludricous. Anybody who would had to suffer the events that happen in each episode of this show would had heart attacks before each ends. I have seen SF and fantasy movies and show which are far more believable and realistic then this show. Give be a fucking break! for the lif eof me i can't even begin to understand the appeal and popularity of the show. Only good thing i see in it is that it revived the career of Keifer Sutherland and turned him popular among the mainstream audiences. I just wished he had done it in a better show.
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Chuck was created by the same guy who created The O.C., which is one of your 1,000 reasons to hate Star Trek. So go from there.
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She already did that in Nip/Tuck, kind of.
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Who created THE O.C.? And what is THE O.C., anyway? And before you roll in the floor in bewilderment, remember that not everybody in here are americans.
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The O.C. equals stars of Star Trek. Its a show about disenfranchised rich white kids in California, and how hard life is for them. Its what you would call Emo. And just because you don't live in America doesn't mean you don't have access to You Tube and IMDB.
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This season started off with such promise and has turned into a shit sandwich. Can we just cancel every channel except FX and give them all the money in the world?
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The P.O.'s supervisor shows up looking for him and Dana turns out to be a triple agent, working for CTU to infiltrate the terrorists who think she's mole. Makes as much sense as anything else that's happened.
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Writer 1: Got anything? Writer 2: No. You? Writer 1: How about another mole? Writers 1 and 2: Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! (PROLONGED SILENCE) Writer 2: So, um, who'd be the mole?
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In order to protect her terrible secret (she used to live in the South) she has to keep killing people. First, it's the redneck boyfriend and his monosyllabic friend. Then, the parole officer. Then, the parole officer's wife who comes looking for him. Then, the parole officer's wife's kid's soccer coach who gets worried because she was supposed to bring the orange wedges to the game. Then, an entire youth soccer team, who can't play without a coach...
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And everytime they come back from commercial break, she's shoving another body into the crawlspace. I actually like this idea. I can get on board with that.
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I can't acess youtube about something i know nothing about, can I? But thanks for the heads up, anyway.
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So, being form the south is still such a terirble thing, hem? Well, with Jessica Simpson's example, i can understand.
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kill the PO and reveal to us she's a mole. It made more sense to me than the events that led to him even being there. After the EMP, CTU is evacuating all non-essential personnel. PO Jimmy James is on his way out. Yet, somehow, either manages to stick around, or comes back, and demands an audience with the head of CTU. Hastings is told "a Parole Officer wants to speak to you but won't say what it's about", so Hastings agrees to see him in 15 minutes. WTF????? Power is out, communications are out, Jack and Co. are somewhere out there with the only lead on the stolen rods, terrorists have just hit CTU and are planning a dirty bomb attack on the city, and some Parole Officer wants to chat with Hastings, at 4:50am? Hastings one and only response to this request should have been "I'm busy. Take a statement. If he won't talk to you or anyone but me, and if he won't even give a hint at what it pertains to, screw him, I'm busy". The McPoyle Clan, power is still mostly out at CTU. They got back outside communications and surveillance as they were considered the highest priority for the moment. Since internal security at CTU sucks anyway (Jimmy James just wandering around, for example), I doubt getting the cameras in their holding rooms working was all that high on the list of priorities.
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Mar 23, 2010 11:13:39 AM CDT
I just can't like movies or shows with no Plot For Cardiacs
by asimovlives
I call "No Plot for Cardiacs" all the movies and shows in which the events happen at break-pacing from start to finish, without there as ever a moment onscreen when things slow down a bit and characters getto catch their breath. It robs the story of it's own believability, regardless if it's a realistic or fantasy story. All this irrational super-fast pacing of many modenr movies and Tv shows are just dumb and stupid. Characters traveling hundreds of miles, or going from one country to the next, and there's no sense of time passing. always is cut to the next event, cut to the next event, cut, cut cut. Bullshit! It even robs the story of real emergency, because everything is fast. There's no way to tell what situation is more urgent then the other, everyhing is rushed. Tha,t for me, breaks pacing, and that ruins any engagement i might had with the story. mosyt hacks think they can make interesting stories if they over-edit everything. Well, guess what, you can't. Not that way. Fast pacing is liek any other tool, it has a specific porpose and for specific circunstances, it's not a "one size fit all" solution for bad storytelling. I'm looking at you, 24 and FRINGE.
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it's one of the only shows the entire family will sit down to watch. Chuck on Monday is a must-see TV night. It's fun, it's lighthearted, and Jeff and Lester are hilarious. I mean, if you've ever worked as a computer tech (like me), it's totally relatable.
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...marks the low point of the series. That was a god awful episode on so many counts. What does it say about the show that when that sniper had Jack in his crosshairs, I was up on my feet yelling, "DO IT! DO IT!" Followed by a "fuck" when Chesty McFreckles bailed him out. I just wanted the show to end already. I've invested so much time already, that I feel compelled to wait till the end. And it's not like they're putting anything else new on the air anymore, but god that was the most horrible episode to date. The Chloe scene alone made Chuck seem like the more serious show of late.
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Was there a single person who didn't know that Renee was behind the sniper who had Jack in the crosshairs?
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I'm pretty sure if you goggled The O.C. you could piece it together.
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She plays a psycho a lot better than a victim. Totally unbelievable as a victim, but as soon as she got that look in her eyes as she walked down the hall to dispatch Jimmy James I totally bought it. For that reason alone I'm glad for the reveal.
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"I don't do well with praise" or whatever it was, was pretty funny.
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What does Jack have to with stopping Indian Who wants to be a millionaire from happening?
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Mar 23, 2010 12:47:55 PM CDT
Suddenly, Jack, CTU, and all Terrorists can't shoot worth a damn
by chromedome
and just when we thought 24 had stopped limping and depending the the hack's crutch that is "moles, more the gooder" we learn about Dana.I agree in principle with the poster above who said Sackoff is terrific at playing crazy menacing types ("I could do this all day") so for Sackoff this "twist" gives her a chance to shine a bit. But for the story, well, it just went further down the toilet, but is still so full of crap it is a big messy clog that just won't flush.
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Mar 23, 2010 12:52:21 PM CDT
this season, even more than last, is like a deathbed vigil
by chromedome
painful, slow lingering suffering....loyally waiting for the End, which will bring as much Relief as sadness...24, we don't want to remember you as these later seasons. We will try to forget them, and remember you as you were in your prime.
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...that keeps him out of all forms of media for the rest of his life.Lock him in a room with Ryan Seacrest at CERN, study the fission reactions when those Massive and Completely Unjustified Egos are compressed together in a small space....
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I wasn't clear enough with you before: until you refered to it above, i didn't even knew there existed a series called The O.C. Do you understand me now?
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... catching up on the fucking failures of LOST and FRINGE as well as they are on 24? They are not lesser nor less obvious.
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I understood you find. It just doesn't change the fact that you can copy and paste The OC into IMDB or google and figure out what it is from there. Plus you rant and rave about Star Trek so much and most of what you say you hate about it steams from things like The O.C.
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...is that Fox just signed a 7-figure deal with Braga to produce new shows, based on his performance on 24. Someone actually gets a million dollars a year to come up with this. Someone who is well known to be despised among TV fans. How is it not defrauding investors to give someone like that so much money when they can hire a kid out of the 7/11 to come up with the same drivel? Nepotism has destroyed Hollywood.
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Chuck is a pleasant comedy drama that doesn't take a lot of brain power to watch. All the characters have excellent chemistry with each other and in each episode, something is usually introduced in the first half that will save the group in the second half. The stories are simple enough and the love story has been dragging on for far too long but in general, the show is very enjoyable to watch. There really isn't another show that i know of at the moment with a mix of comedy, drama and just pure fun than Chuck. You could do far worse than watching this program.
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Mar 23, 2010 5:15:56 PM CDT
Chloe did a Scotty!!! She rebooted CTU and gave it warp drive!
by mrmysteryguest
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the "threat of fire and electrocution" from tapping into the trunk line was just as real as "the toilets are backing up into the warp drive! she'll nah take more ah this!!"
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"Characters traveling hundreds of miles, or going from one country to the next, and there's no sense of time passing. always is cut to the next event, cut to the next event, cut, cut cut. Bullshit! It even robs the story of real emergency, because everything is fast. There's no way to tell what situation is more urgent then the other, everyhing is rushed. Tha,t for me, breaks pacing, and that ruins any engagement i might had with the story"
Dude, this is exactly what 24 IS NOT!. Somtimes I wish it was. In most action shows you do see a character say that he is going to Iraq and after the commercial he is in Iraq. In 24, because of the"real time" element, When Jack says he is going somewhere. They have to change to different characters to either continue the sotry from a different view or show a subplot until Jack gets to the destination. What the show needs is more clever ways to spend time while Jack is travelling instead of the usual 24 cliches (boring subplots, tension among CTU coworkers, etc). -
Background checks are NOT infallible. It's been documented that planting cells into an enemy's society was done during WWII. It's been documented that US citizens who have clean backgrounds have been "converted" to radical and/or terrorist ideologies.
Dana's run-in with the law was a juvi offense and she could use her "One Shot Juvi Card" (i.e., plea to the charge but not have to serve time).
Juvi Cards purpose is to induce the perp into saving the court time by pleading out by offering the opportunity to prevent a kid from ruining the rest of their lives (i.e. plead guilty, you serve no time, you go straighten out your life) because it is NOT an actual Felony Conviction.
One of the main targets of terrorists are disenfranchised youth ... of which Dana would've clearly been one. It's kinda hinted that she has a relationship with the (latest) terrorist leader; but for some reason I'm thinking that Prinz is also in on it.
Anyway, my point is that it's not all that improbable that CTU would have so many moles. Besides, I know it's been 8 seasons, but it's been about 15 years total and while there have been A LOT of subversives (i.e., CTU worker actually taking orders from another branch of government) or people being blackmailed/controlled by Wilson's Crew ... how many Nina/Dana moles have there actually been? -
How's this for a scenario. The next episode of 24 revolves around Dana and Cole. She reveals what her true intentions are to him and he's along for the ride, because he loves her "man" hands.
Another PO shows up and Dana is forced to kill him, then another, and another.
Dana calls Cole: You need to hurry back to CTU and start capping these bastards outside, i'm running out of compartments to hide all the bodies...suspense ensues. -
and I had my 'Chloe O'Fryin' gag all ready and everything...
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What pisses me off the most about this ep's ending is the double 180 I pulled on Dana's storyline.
Like everybody else, I have hated every minute of it. But THEN, as soon as Dana landed the 1st blow on Jimmy James and started to strangle him, I erupted in cheers. At that moment, I had decided that this storyline was completely AWESOME, and I couldn't wait to see how she'd get through the rest of the day. Would she go on a killing spree? Would she continue to crumble towards implosion?
But alas, less than a minute after this moment of greatness, we get THE FUCKING PHONE CALL that would forever cement this season as FUCKED. -
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