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The Final Days of Josh Olson @ SXSW2010: FOUR LIONS, SUCK, TUCKER AND DALE VS EVIL, DOGTOOTH, LE DONK & SCOR-ZAY-ZEE!!!
Hey, Harry,
I had a great, great time doing this. I'd love to do it again if it works out, and thanks again for the barbecue hook up. Black's was alright, but didn't hold a candle to Smitty's. I've learned my lesson. Thanks for chatting with my pals, too. They're great kids, and it meant the world to them that you were so cool with them.
Here's my last write-up for the fest, and hell, yeah, let's talk about Fantastic Fest.
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DAYS EIGHT & NINE
I swear, it feels like I’ve been doing this for a year... in a good way, though. Like I said when I started this venture, I’ve been to a lot of film festivals over the years, but I’ve never really done one. It’s always work, and I’m lucky if I see one movie outside of the one I’m promoting. In many ways, this is my first film festival experience, and it’s been spectacular, although, I gotta say, my ass is killing me. Hopefully, the timing works out next year, because I’d do this again in a hot second.
On to the movies!
First up was DOGTOOTH, the Greek movie that picked up the Un Certain Regard award at Cannes last year. Co-written and directed by Yorgos Lanthimos, it tells a fascinating and perverse story of a unique family. An unnamed pair of parents raise their three children behind walls, filling their heads with bizarre lies about the world outside, and how life is lived. I found it riveting and hilarious and deeply disturbing, and it’s one of those movies that you shouldn’t know too much about going in. It reminded me a little bit of Bad Boy Bubby, a film I consider to be among the top ten greatest movies ever made.
LE DONK & SCOR-ZAY-ZEE is the new one from writer/director Shane Meadows, who gave us Somers Town, This Is England, and Dead Man’s Shoes. It’s a very low-key and charming mock rockumentary starring Paddy Considine as a somewhat dim and self-involved roadie who’s teamed up with a goofy white rapper named Scor-Zay-Zee. I’d wager this movie started its life as a goof. It feels like a character Considine and Meadows came up with as a joke that eventually took on a life of his own. It’s no Spinal Tap, but it doesn’t aspire to be. Considine is as great as ever - he’s absolutely one the best actors working, and it’s fun watching him play it so loose. Apparently improvised over five days, what starts out a good ends up being surprisingly involving. You’ll be rooting for these two misfits by the end. I hope this gets some sort of release here in the States. It really is fun.
And speaking of fun, TUCKER AND DALE VS. EVIL delivers that in spades. This is one of those razor sharp concepts that only comes to you in the shower, or when you’re asleep. It tells the tale of Tucker and Dale, a pair of hapless hillbillies who are spending the weekend fixing up an old cabin in the woods that Tucker has just bought. It’s the sort of shack that Jason or Leatherface would live in, but to them, it’s a fixer upper.
A group of obnoxious college students are spending the same weekend in the same woods, and when they cross paths with Tucker and Dale, they convince themselves that our two heroes are mad killers of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre variety. In their hysteria, a few of them manage to get themselves killed in accidents that, unfortunately, implicate the innocent hillbillies.
Hilarity ensues.
I missed the Q&A, so I don’t know if this movie’s got distribution yet, but it’s inconceivable that it won’t be playing in a theater near you soon. It’s a genuine laugh riot. The two main characters - played by Alan Tudyk and Tyler Labine are thoroughly engaging and likeable. They have a kind of Bill and Ted charm to them, without being quite so dim. If anything, they’re a lot brighter than you’d expect, and I was surprised at how much human feeling the movie conjures up for these two, especially Dale, whose yearning for one of the college girls is actually kind of sweet.
Next up is SUCK. It’s a rock and roll vampire comedy that played at midnight, and midnight is where it belongs. In a good way. It tells the tale of a low-rent bar band that goes on the road, unaware that their girl singer (played by the delectable Jessica Paré) has been bitten by a vampire. Full of cameos from rockers like Alice Cooper, Iggy Pop, Moby, Henry Rollins, and Alex Lifeson, the movie has a stoner charm to it that’s pretty irresistible. It’s played for laughs, and one of the film’s enjoyable little gags is a game of Spot The Album Cover. At certain points in the film, they recreate several iconic album covers. I only spotted three. I’m told there were five. See how well you do.
Malcolm McDowell is whacked out and over the top as the Van Helsing who’s chasing them, and there’s some very cool Limey-style use of footage from O Lucky Man! that’s used to clue us in to his backstory. Dave Foley shows up as the band’s semi-lunatic manager, and gets a laugh every time he opens his mouth (Not exactly surprising) and the whole thing is ridiculous gas. This is a movie you watch with a bunch of friends, pizza, and the finest sativa. In fact, a young man of my acquaintance was in such a state at the screening, and proclaimed it to be an absolute masterpiece.
I can’t go that far, but you could do a lot worse at a party than to throw on Suck.
Finally, I closed out the fest with a movie I’ve been VERY eager to see since I heard about it - FOUR LIONS.
Director Chris Morris is a bit of an unknown quantity in the US, which is a crime. He was the brains behind the great British comedy series Brass Eye, which beat Ali G to the punch in suckering real celebrities into fake documentaries and making fools of them. He followed that up with the most cutting edge comedy sketch show ever made, Jam, a show so demented I nearly got thrown off an airplane for watching it on my laptop.
Four Lions is his directorial debut, and Morris also co-wrote the script with Jesse Armstrong, Sam Bain and Simon Blackwell, all of whom have written on some of the best British comedy TV of the last couple of decades. The film’s a comedy about four Jihadists living in London, and you either think that’s a fitting subject for a comedy, or you don’t. If you don’t, you’re wrong. Four Lions is brutally, viciously funny, and I hope it gets a real release here in the States. This is a movie America needs after a decade of solemn preachiness about the bloody war on terror. It’s a hilarious, over the top slapstick assault on the senses, and while I won’t say it’s on par with the greatest movie ever made, it does bear comparison to Dr. Strangelove, which proved the only way to properly deal with nuclear Armageddon was comedy.
And with that, I’m outta here. I’ve had a magnificent time in Austin. My love of movies has been renewed in a major way, and unless I’m here next year WITH a movie, I’d love to do it again, if Harry will have me. I also want to thank a few folks - Anton Diether, a lovely man and a fine screenwriter, who’s the one who dragged me down here; and my Austin pals, Brock, Sara, Steven and John, who made the entire experience even more of a blast, and have given me new hope for the youth of America (Newsflash, folks - some of them actually love old movies). I hope to see all y’all next year, or sooner. I hear Fantastic Fest is a lot of fun...
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...and I'm glad to hear that it delivers.
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Do I?
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Do I look cool? Do I? DO I!!!???
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It's wonderful to see a reviewer dropping references to things like O Lucky Man!, Dead Man's Shoes AND Brass Eye. I take back what I said about Hollywood screenwriters having virtually no knowledge of the history of film.
Also, it's nice to see a review of Four Lions from someone familiar with that style of humour. Quint did a not all that complimentary review a while back where it seemed to me as if he found the tone a little befuddling. Who knows, he might turn out to have a point? British feature length versions of TV shows have almost always, without exception, turned out pretty lame (I know Four Lions doesn't quite fall under this remit). I'm optimistic, though. Also, virtually every single one of those other movies sounds incredibly fun...
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I agree with your thoughts on Brit tv adaptations, but In The Loop was fantastic! There's an exception for ya!
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I got le donk on DVD, in the commentary Considine explains his character was something he used to do inbetween takes on other shane meadows films. Apparently after shooting This Is England and Dead Mans Shoes, Meadows wanted to do something lighter and fun, enter a gifted, oversize rapper from a Nottingham Council Estate and you've got Le Donk & Scor-Zay-Zee!
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I thought In the Loop maybe even topped The Thick of It. Consider me schooled.
And it's weird, I was watching Hot Fuzz again the other day and I must have totally missed the fact that one of the Andys was played by Paddy Considine. Guy can do comedy just as well as he can do murderous bastards. -
I read a few negative reviews on bloody-disgusting after sundance & I got nervous.
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http://bit.ly/bOwfEY
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and thus cannot wait for FOUR LIONS.
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At the Bradford Film Fest with two screenings and Q+A following. The bastard thing is sold out. Shi-ite.
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Michael Cera, just stop. Please. But the rest of the movie looks fun, in a "see it once, forget it later" sort of way.
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SHAUN/HOT FUZZ pedigree, but I'm just not feeling it.
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Those that want to start fights are somewhere else.
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if they take it..itll last me all day long.
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this is gonna be great.
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Mar 25, 2010 11:33:44 AM CDT
Someone in the M:I4Back suggested Brad Bird direct SUPERMAN
by yackbacker
I agree with that suggestion.
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Mar 25, 2010 11:33:58 AM CDT
Oh man. The fanboy world is going to collapse on itself
by colonelfatheart
because of the SCOTT PILGRIM trailer. Still not feeling it.
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like INCREDIBLES...and then move onto supes..
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Brad Bird'd be perfect - if the Superman movie were going to be animated. Do we know, really, how Brad Bird will do with live action?
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Yeah, 'moose and I lit the blue touch paper. Now to keep popping back to see Asi explode :D
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and Brad Bird's animated work is much better, IMHO. Bird's a skilled storyteller, he can do it.
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...The trailer for TUCKER AND DALE VS EVIL is pure class. I cannot WAIT for that movie to hit screens! Alan Tudyk could be the new Bruce Campbell...
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...none.
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Was that "K.O!" from the Street Fighter Alpha games? I have a good ear for that stuff. Michael Cera looks like he's doing something slightly different from his George Michael routine, which is good. Everything looks fucking amazing. I'll probably see it once, and a million times after that.
Edgar Wright is my lord and savior. I will chant now. Jaaa-aaaa-aaaffa caaaa-aaaa-aaakes. -
They went away
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SCOTT PILGRIM is another comic book movie. Along the lines of superhero-parody, ala KICK-ASS.
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...I'm a sucker for that sort of thing.
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I really do. I love Edgar Wright's work so far.
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You guys move fast....
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I like the whole THREE'S COMPANY misunderstanding-genre of humor.
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...I remember that from TWITCH...very promising...
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http://www.suckthemovie.com/trailer.htmlTry some groupie.
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"must be a suicide pack..."
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You missed the DO-NOT-DO orgy this morning.
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I love it.
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before I realized that we moved...my list is short and sweet and comes circa 1985...Jane Seymore and Kelly LeBrock...that is all I would need to be happy...
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http://tinyurl.com/yd9flt3I can't make sense of any of it. HA!
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regarding the Mean TBers and say that we created our own group within the AICN TB community in order to avoid the meanness, pettiness and juvenile antics that is par for the course in these TalkBacks. I think it would be a great angle for her story and how awesome would it be to get a shout out for the Pedalback from the New York Times?! If you're not interested I'm sure 'moose would jump all over this.
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http://tinyurl.com/yezlppjTerrorist comedy.
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It looks like a sweet story too.
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i don't think I could put it any better. You, Sixies or Yack, as First Founders of The Feast, could all write her, if you think she's legit.
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She is indeed a real journalist.
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Mar 25, 2010 12:13:31 PM CDT
I'm only worried if it coaxes an attack on the Pedalback.
by colonelfatheart
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Why am I so damned ambivalent about this?
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No need to be afraid of all that.
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I'm content to be a Pebrew. I like the quiet joy the PB brings me. If this reporter really wants to know what we're about, she can read our exchanges. It's not that hard to figure us out.
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then I just kind of got suspicious of the whole thing.
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Announcing our existence and purpose in a news article would be like painting a big crosshair on ourselves.
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will guide us.
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as I am aprehensive of what kind of traffic an article like that in the NYT would bring to the site...the place runs slow enough as it is...I'm sure increased traffic never crossed Harry's mind when he agreed to this...
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...it's another to attract the dredges of the outside world.
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obviously has an agenda and a point-of-view already. Lack of civility on the internet, and all that. You know, there's a general lack of civility in America, period. It's no clearer than if you take a look at our government. Tsk-tsking thirteen year old geeks with potty mouths seems kind of pointless.The cool thing about being mentioned in the article would be calling ourselves to the attention of Oldman and Caine. HA!
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gotta finish the DizProgot a new dvd release weekly postbuild time machine to visit hitlers mommy..
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wandering the talkback wilderness in search of the Land of perpetuall rapid refresh rates and a safe place to converse IS a powerful story...WWMcQD....What Would McQeen Do?
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I really think you over-estimate the intrigue of AICN to the outside, mainstream, non-Hollywood, non-geek world.I don't think a human interest piece in a newspaper would attract many noobs at all.
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If anything, the Code of McQueen should be mentioned in any discussions with these... "non-Pebrews."
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...but I doubt she'll use it. Like Subs said, she probably already has a point of view. I doubt the article is all about AICN...she's just using AICN talkback as an example of x, y, or z...
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Awesome stuff.
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Mar 25, 2010 12:29:31 PM CDT
Oh, Subs, those snags in the health care reconciliation
by colonelfatheart
bill were minor, parliamentary things, language nitpicks. They're not stripping out the student loan reform aspect of it. The House will either vote tonight or tomorrow on the tweaks, and then it'll go to president.
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I'd tell her that there is a community of about 30-50 AICN Talkbackers who use the place as a kind of social networking and actively avoid the kind of pettiness she's asked about. If she wanted to find the positive, she could look for it - it's not like we're hiding - but I'd be vague about specifics.
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The media made it sound like the whole bill was in jeopardy.Perfect example of why some of us distrust journalists. HA!
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I think he would just keep doing whatever it was he was doing and let the reporter do her job discovering how cool he was instead of bragging about how cool he was to her in some letter...
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The Pedalback would introduce an interesting, contrasting angle to the point of her story. It would give the story more texture, more conflict, more integrity. We are an oasis of civility amid a black desert of rancor and rudeness. It would be irresponsible of her to leave out the Pedalback if she knew about it.
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Health care reform is law of the land. These tweaks just eliminate some special deals and massage some funding issues.
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I think it would be awesome to see "Pedalback" printed in America's #1 newspaper or web site. If she does have an agenda being the lack of civility of the internet. So what? We agree with that. I ask all Pebrews permission to send her examples from the Pedalback.
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would be smokin' a cigarette and driving a fast car while he was doing whatever it was he was doing...
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Mar 25, 2010 12:36:50 PM CDT
...of course, if she read some of the best of Pedalback...
by flickapoo
...she'd quit her job, leave her husband, and attach herself to us permanently...documenting our exploits full time.
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She has no IDEA what's in store for her life if she reads the Chronicles of Pedalback...
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i nom the colonel..
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contact her, not that you need it. I'd rather not have any examples of my posts sent to her. Let her seek them out, if she's a journalist. Never give them anything they don't ask from you, directly.
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...doctor lady!
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we are the only sub-community on the AICN TBs. Col.'s right.
We do offer a counter perspective. I'm glad she's reaching out to TalkBackers. Otherwise, it would just be the BlackBoxers (AICN columnists) saying how much we all suck. -
Stabby, say you represent a group that has established a quasi-community on AICN and that we have gone out of our way to resolve conflicts among ourselves and avoid trouble with trolls, that we encourage each other's creativity, that we pun like merfers. Only give examples if she asks for them, but tell her you'd be willing to point her in the right direction.
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just like McQueen....especially when he's burning rubber and taking corners at 75 mph...
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a big part of what we do is humor, and sometimes it's juvenile. She's not necessarily going to agree that we are as funny as we think we are.That's another reason to keep specifics to a minimum.
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a preview of the letter so we all know what we are saying to the reporter...Colonel and Subs have good advice...let's make it a group effort, like they did with that Health Care Thingy...
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my 2 centsit would be cool if the PB was mentioned in the article but it sounds like she just wants to profile assholes on the internet. I said it over in that thread....Harry should have just misspelled and spoiled some non-news about Transformers 3 and she would have gotten some honest hate. Only he government combined with the media can manufacture hate.
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...we're it, motherfucker.
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But feel free, Stabs.
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just give her the origin issue of the PB..make her find the rest.
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I don't think there'd be any time for that. She's probably gotten plenty of response, and she's already writing her piece.I think, Stabby, there's no reason to write anything beyond what you first posted way up above. General. To the point. Don't oversell anything. Don't give her any information if she contacts you, unless you broker it with us first.I'd be super-surprised if she responded to you.
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It will get the attention of the "mean" talkbackers, who haven't noticed us before, because they'll definitely be reading the article, and incite them to harass us. I'm not game for that. I vote no.
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...if the purpose is to "contrast" with the meanness of regular talkbackers. That's just asking for it.
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I am not too worried about "mean TBers" discovering us. We're consistently the highest-ranked post article on the site. TBers know about us, have known about us for a while, and feel no need to disrupt what we're doing. As long as we stay out of their way (stay out of the CAPTAIN AMERICA article, etc.) they don't care what we do.
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I loved that about that thread, too. The biggest assholes in this place ranking the other assholes on their assholedness.Claster fack!
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its clear that dude already knew she wasn't interested. what a desperate homo. How does acting like a needy suicide candidate endear you to a woman that has already said, "i have issues, my sleep schedule is weird, maybe later." Take the hint dummy.Thanks for posting it though. It mad me laugh.
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says [redacted], "But here's a list of the haters I hate."
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She should say "Asshole, rewrite this but do it with proper syntax and grammar. Oh, and ask yourself 'What Would Steve McQueen Write?'"
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I learned about something today, thanks to you...Algonquin Round Table. Wikied it and was educated and entertained. Favorite new line..."You can lead a horticulture but you can't make her think."
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The meanest have already found us. Some of them think they are us when they want to be.BUT STABS, don't dismiss 'moose's reservations lightly. If the article were to back-fire on us, it might have a chilling effect on any one or several of us within the group, and that wouldn't be worth it.
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the ones that are claiming to be that is..they are coming off as whiny bitches.and if they did swarm us for a day or two..we could easily takem.
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...don't know we exist, what our purpose is, what we're doing. Sure, people check out the top TB and notice us derailing the article, as most of us did, but they either post a quick "WTF?" and move on or don't post at all.
That could change when an article, with the full attention of the meanest talkbackers AICN has to offer, points out the Pedalbackers as a do-gooder sub-community. There's nothing, but the lazy banhammer gods, to stop hundreds of talkbackers from flooding any TB we go to with harassment. -
Only because it's really not worth much of anything to me to be mentioned in a NYT article. I'm not worried about backlash from others because we're not really anonymous among AICNers (the writers, editors, mods or other TBers). I am not going to participate in any article if it comes to that, but I wouldn't begrudge any other Pebrews for spreading the Word.
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...more than,"You know, there are groups of people on the internet that act civil to each other."She already knows this and it has nothing to do with her article. Plus we already know that it isn't about AICN specifically.I am not worried about "mean" TBrs. I kinda like it. I'm fucked up that way.
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...haven't been too careful about keeping their anonymity intact.
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Mar 25, 2010 1:07:40 PM CDT
Yeah, my first response when she showed me the letter was...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
"No daughter of mine is dating somebody who doesn't understand the necessity of paragraph breaks..."I told her it would be best to just ignore him until he goes away...and, that I want to see all the ones he writes her from now on...
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Look, I know it's fun for some to have a dust-up every once in awhile. We've always said we'll go somewhere else for that fix. Whether we could take 'em or not - look how we handled eggsalad - why would we want to? Why would we have to? As soon as we start doing that, encouraging that, we cease to be what we are proclaiming ourselves to be. A double negative is just a double negative.
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Mar 25, 2010 1:09:03 PM CDT
'Moose makes a good point re: presenting ourselves as do-gooders
by yackbacker
We're not do-gooders, we're not trying to change the face of AICN. We're just minding our own bidness. We're like the Amish. We make great furniture. And we're probably all good at bowling.
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is due to his lack of belief in .
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I vote yes, but conditionally, and I won't mind if the no's carry the vote.
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That was like... 4 World Trade Center tower designs ago! No sale!
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So NOT good at bowling.
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to a vote. HA!
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Oh, will be swift and vengeful in it's devine retrubution...
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and will always cling to his anonymity with his "cold dead hands."
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to votes, that's for sure.
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I don't need the extra attention...good OR bad...If we want an article, let's write one and submit it to a magazine or newspaper ourselves...
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why he went through the painful procedures of having those digits grafted to his hooves in the first place.
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I agree with Stabby's intent, but I think there have been enough reservations expressed that we should not pass the motion on the floor.
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http://tinyurl.com/ylscr5t
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Wait, what are we voting on again?
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And then he goes on to claim that the Dems are encouraging more violence by speaking about the threats against them. You know, instead of standing with them and telling these whackjobs, "ENOUGH."
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if even 1 Pebrew isn't down I say it isn't worth it. We don't come here for fortune and glory. Adventure, excitement? A Pebrew craves not, these things.Besides, the broad won't give one fuck about us. It isn't what her article is about.I say we just lean back in the cut, look these fucks dead in the eye and ask, "What?"Just to be clear though...I don't care...at all.
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He had a staffer throw a brick through his own window so he could go on FOX News and complain about the media characterizing Republicans as violent.
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...because I was born with the Eye of The Tiger.I figure 100 to 1 nothing comes of it anyway.
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I thought we were voting on whether or not 'Dead & Breakfast' was a good movie.
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...but you guys knew that already.
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That's not what we're about, and also not what the article is about.
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I'm starving!
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...but I think there's a possibility he had someone shoot through his window so he could get some face time. Then again, this isn't TV, this is real life. Stuff like that rarely happens in real life.
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Resolved, Pebrews?
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it was a mistake. The windows aren't tinted Red or Blue.
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Vanilla Gorilla pudding. Maybe I should freeze it to make pops...
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Nativist, know-nothing, racist rage is nativist, know-nothing, racist rage no matter what. Even GOP lawmakers could be targeted since they're part of the power structure and therefore guilty by association. Oh, and Cantor's Jewish. Don't sell short the anti-Semitism of cracker Bible thumpers.
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and jumping bridges in his sports car, McQueen isn't seeking the spotlight...just a good cigarette and the wind in his hair...
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and hope that Stabby adheres!
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storm the mean back like William Wallace, with such ferocity and strength that this dim reporter can't help but notice. Our cries of PB, ,and McQueen will heard for miles.Our legend will be feared and spoken about in a hushed voice for decades.I'm an all or nothing kinda guy. One day we will be forced to take a stand for our cause. Steel yourselves NOW men.Jack Burton: "Gimme your best shot. I can take it."
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along with Subs and 6DB I do have veto power to override a vote. Only, Subs and 6DB can use their veto power collectively to override my decision if they so choose. But, Subs has already given me the go ahead. Rest assured I will not include anyone in my correspondence with the reporter who does not wish to be. And I will post my email at the Shelter before I send it to her for your review, comments and suggestions.
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Why are they shooting at my window?
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"Surprise sex is the best thing to wake up to, unless you're in prison." Under the Pebrew definition, I'd have to disagree.
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Pebrews like waking up in prison getting surprise-sexed?
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up in the P-back...
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an over-ride of my over-ride by Sixies.
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I don't think he will since he voted "No."
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Like a unanimous vote among the OPBs for something like this.
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Muhahahahaha!
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as the Senate was passing the fixed version of the fixes to health care reform. And now the fixes of the fixes go back to the House for final approval. LOL
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Therefore, The Pedalback Congress adopts the motion prohibiting contact with the reporter.Done and doner.
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then
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and drafting a letter.
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into question and demand a re-vote, at which point I'll simply change my abstention to a "No" vote. So, it's finished.Let's talk about girls.
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is that Surprise Sex is never a good thing when it happens to you, under the PB definition.
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Boy was I wasted last night. I had to fight to read that letter.
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I just signed an Executive Order.
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We're straining to fit the laws of mankind into the world of ... I feel space-time ripping underneath me. Wait, no- that's just me getting ready for my first poop in 2 days.
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Mac just won the MeanieBack, in my humble opinion.
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Solid work.
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a la 'Julie and Julia' all those who voted Nay will not share in the profits.
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Gooooooooooooo, poop![jump up and down, shaking pom-poms]
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Mar 25, 2010 1:58:51 PM CDT
Oh boy- Mac makes a joke about assholes, diarrhea returns...
by yackbacker
My poop is coming, people!
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That little biology lesson you wrote over there... wow. Dude.
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...but the imagery of it fucking kills me.
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"Fecal Matters"
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Home at last!
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Not so poopy as we were led to believe; so much the better.
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11:56:55....You will always be my first...
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Mar 25, 2010 2:06:11 PM CDT
...diarrhea has returned, we will kill the fattened sphincter!..
by flickapoo
...and celebrate!
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Good to be home. sorry about tracking in the cat poop on my boots.
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The only moment in time that ever mattered.
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talking about the celebrities we would DO-OR-NOT-DO, watching some crazy trailers, and practicing parliamentary procedure.There, you're all caught up.
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I didn't read it.
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still find time for arrowheads and music?
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in the other thread...and it reminded me of Milf Day.
June 16th. A day to remove the soggy flaccidity from any a rats cold and surly member. -
Molly Bloom, the patron saint of literary Milfs. (Well, beyond the Virgin Mary, that is.)
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...they were talking about Halal food, so I described Halal sex...just scroll up a bit.
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That's the only Queensryche song I've ever heard.
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don't get too excited though. I don't know if I can live up to whatever I was before. This employment has reduced me to the most bland and boring shades of my essence. I'm a mere sam worthington of my former self.
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You have not been reduced to a mere cypher of blandness among the fantastical CGI creations of some jerkwad's animation software?
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and all the profits go to fox news.
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with the Injun Casinos you always wanted?
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I have not.
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but then the government shut the casinos down and relocated the native americans to the nyc sewer system.
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Wikipedia makes ulysses sound pretty great though.
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they tell me.
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For some reason I haven't read any books at all for quite awhile. I need to get back into it.
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Just tough to get through. I tried it once or twice but turned tail after a bit. I feel as though I can take a crack at it and finish it now, and I desperately want to since so many people I respect adore it. It's just not a book you can read during a commute or while you're taking a shit.
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Hows your jobserch.gov going subs?
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I basically have two weeks before I'm kicked off the dole.
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experience anyone can be put through.
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...life it too short.
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Mar 25, 2010 2:34:44 PM CDT
I've been wanting to read something by Bertrand Russell
by water_shit_anderson
for awhile now, but I worry that getting into philosophy would be crossing a line of pretentiousness that might be too far.
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Everyone experiments when they're young. Do it now, and get it over with. You'll look a real prat if you pick it up in your 50s.
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And one damned fine collection of short stories. If you don't want to read his novels, at least check out Dubliners.
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It's only pretentious if you push people to discuss it with you.
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to Christianists or any other kind of religious zealot.
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I hope you find something.
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What's the haps, man?
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What field are you poking around in?
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I'd settle for a living wage.
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...she informed me she wouldn't be speaking to me for at least a week...and then laughed her ass off for five minutes straight.
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...that's ridiculous.
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Mr. Kord.
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Mr.Off
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(whatever it's called) DRAGON the first lukewarm review I've read.
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The ONE day in come in to work right on time and I have absolutely NOTHING to do. Well, a half day is better than no day, I guess.
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We shared our lists of DO-ABLE celebs, watched some cool trailers (SCOTT PILGRIM, SUCK, TUCKER & DALE VS. EVIL, FOUR LIONS), practiced some parliamentary stuff, welcomed diarrhea back, but he's down-selling himself - says employment has made him bland, and lots of the boys are over at The Meanback carrying on with whatever.
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was gonna try and break-in his new toilet seat. He left about a half-hour ago, and no one's heard from him since.
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Like Vader's did...
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No, it wasn't the most wonderful poop of my life, but it was a worthwhile and overdue act. Anthony Bourdain's "A Cook's Tour" guided the way too.
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His head's up in the attic, the rest of him dangling over the toilet downstairs.
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Hey, that's not a SimuPost! There's a full second between them.
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Congrats, though, Yack. We were all rooting for you.
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Mar 25, 2010 3:03:42 PM CDT
...don't tell Sixies, but I think they're both getting some...
by flickapoo
...good digs in. I'm enjoying the hell out of it...and I believe they are too.
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d'être déçu dans la dunette que vous avez fait alors pour prévoir la dunette vous n'avez pas.
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When the page loaded after my post, Cheeses was already there after mine.
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well, that blows my theory....maybe the clock rounded off or something....good catch...should have worked according to my observations...Maybe space-time IS unstuck as some are claiming...
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im thinking about pulling quotes..i think fetts gonna have an anuersym in a sec..all he has on me a minor idiosyncracies in spelling..WTFE.
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from up there a-ways.
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in his face. He'll be eating Boner Toast in no time.
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That is too much fun to watch. And as I mentioned above, I have nothing better to do at the moment.
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Mar 25, 2010 3:20:07 PM CDT
We do have the 'Boner Toast' technology, don't we...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
We even have the currently baned 'gaping asshole' technology that Moose uncovered (or, created), so we could 'nuke anyone with one of those and still survive as a community...Imagine someone not prepared opening either one of those images...*shudder*
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commonly known government branch.
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What defuck you talking bout?? He ain't got nuthin on me
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It is not a sight you easily recover from.
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Right now, I'm a little pissed at Cheeses for even reminding me of it.
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has been one of the few benefits of my employment.
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Hi, I am a frequent poster to Aintitcoolnews.com’s Talkbacks/message boards and co-founder of The Pedalback, a small community of 30-50 Talkbackers who created our own sub-group within Ain’t It Cool’s Talkbacks so that we can chat about movies and pop culture without the constant annoyance of trolls and other people unwilling to have civil discussions. While we do not always agree, we have civil debates about movies without all the name-calling and mudslinging. That isn’t to say that the Pedalback is devoid of humor, because most of our members are some of the funniest mofos on these Talkbacks. We often riff puns about movie titles and other things trying to make each other laugh. A little history on the Pedalback: it started as a bunch of Talkbackers in a column about Gary Oldman breaking news about Nolan’s third Batman movie and then quickly backpedaling. Us Talkbackers quickly took to each other and formed a group dedicated to the purpose of beating the top number of posts in a single talkback which timed out at somewhere around 10,000 posts. During this time we decided to come up with a name for ourselves and The Pedalback was suggested and eventually agreed upon. The Pedalback has been active at Ain’t It Cool NEWS since last June and has attracted new members with the original core founders still active on a daily basis. If you are interested in a different perspective for your article please feel free to email me.
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Instead of a letter, just send those two images to the NYT reporter...Let her see the true meaning of MEAN!!!
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gonna post the greatest hits..
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...a couple of good phrases. I liked the one about the funnel and shoveling shit back in.
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Ok, I can't stall any longer. Gotta go home. Later guys.
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but i'm sure a bitch like her would already know.
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else Democracy ceases to be, gays will marry willy-nilly, France will become a super-power, and the terrorists win.
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...good for him. I've been toying with the idea of training for a marathon when I hit (gulp) 40 in three years.
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I offered everyone a chance at contributing input. Viva La France!
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When did you appoint yourself dictator?
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slinging mud and debris with his mag wheels as he spins the car around...He takes a drag off the cig and flicks it out the window...The package has aparently been delivered and now it's just a waiting game...McQueen checks to make sure his firearm is properly loaded and that the safety is off...
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You think you'd like dealing with Bridezillas?
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was very dictatorial of him.
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It just seems like 1 day a week of working with people and then spending the rest of the time at home editing would be preferable to what i'm doing now.
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McQueen is ready for nothing. McQueen is reading for everything. McQueen holds dominion in the spaces of .
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if you don't mind sucking off of the doomed hopes and dreams of young naive people who think they will stay the same forever and ever...Sorry, just projecting my anger at being forced to promote credit cards to people who can least afford them...Marriage is good...and you NEED photos, cause, really how many times are you gonna get married in one lifetime, two, three tops?
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Within no time, you'd probably have enough positive word of mouth that you could tell your employer goodbye.
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...maybe hint at your music skills a little, insist it's no big deal...then let yourself be persuaded to do a song or two after a couple of drinks...Done. Pudenda pounded.
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and stuff like that, if you wanted.
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...I said bridesmaids, not flower girls.
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mrs_water_shit_anderson and I know this.
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i don't mind making money off of the false hopes of the young and the doomed.
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Will catch you Pebrews later.
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lef
rek
rap -
skibbyglakmac
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Mar 25, 2010 4:03:55 PM CDT
i would be as professional as a non-balebacker could be
by water_shit_anderson
I did receive a fist of bale once.
I'm still not sure whether it was an award or a punishment. -
uh
khrch!!
mongolia -
gongoliagondoliercavalierchandelierice cold beer
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sheer
of curtains
tear
i see it
fair
shining train
rimming new
with roses fair -
white-assed deer
mighty fast car
glass pickle jar
I know I am
so what you are? -
damn it.
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diarrhea. Now I have poem-envy.
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...Democrats WANT to get killed for political gain. I'm not making this up. Fucking idiot.
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She's very interested in our group. See ya later peebers! Heil Stabby!
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when she looks into our claims of "civil internet discourse" and finds half of us stirring up shit in The Meanback, won't she?
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STABBY: i just let a whole buncha armed racist rednecks crash on the couch for a while..see you when i get back from my 3 week vacation!
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the fett thing started with you and him..you and conti were tallking supes and hes brings up bats..you slap him down like hes donny..the rest is history
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bold action.
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Mar 25, 2010 4:21:07 PM CDT
...SHIT, we've really just been diddling around the last...
by flickapoo
...few days...and I'm not feeling profound or witty just now...fuckity...fuckity...fuckity...fuckity...fuckity...
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Leave the empty pizza boxes, though. They're a charming detail.
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...STRANGE LAND?
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...that usually impresses the ladies...
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At this point, I'd have to start it from the beginning again.
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http://tinyurl.com/yf2uzoy
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We're no do-gooders, bitch.
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state provando ad impressionare, Passare Rapidamente?
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I loved it and hated it. Rambling, unfocused, didactic, awkwardly written, sexist at times ... and yet hilarious, insightful and kinda kick ass. I don't recommend it, and yet I do recommend it.
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..."what mister...are you trying to make a quickly passing impression?"
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..04:29:04
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Flickooties!
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Mar 25, 2010 4:32:55 PM CDT
...and I was translating your Italian, so it's extra romantic.
by flickapoo
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Re-reading it.
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...again...thanks.
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We can't have a structured voting system if one of us disregards it. It's then made pointless.
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We should implement some kind of bylaw system. Just for votes, though, and not the draconian and expansive legal system I proposed a week or so ago.
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...when you simupost with someone it's like simuposting with everyone they've ever simuposted in their lives.
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I think - I hope - Stabby is only teasing.Either way, there are no binding constrictions on any of us, at any time, anyway. And, yeah, that's the way it should be.
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http://tinyurl.com/yjyp8bq
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I am not exactly happy about this turn of events...Under no circumstance should the shelter be opened up to scrutiny...it is sacred ground...
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are going to be born thinking alike?
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Cheeses has touched me.
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but I do like the idea of a voting system.
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Ends billions in corporate giveaways. Of course, the GOPers were calling it a "takeover" of student loans. They sure were fine with the corporate welfare, though.
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Mar 25, 2010 4:44:35 PM CDT
whats this "turn of events" evrybodi's talking about?
by water_shit_anderson
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...heard about it in THE ALTANTIC's must reads of the year of all places.
I can't bring myself to describe it because doing so is impossible without sounding ridiculous.
I'm enjoying it though. -
...on whether or not to send a letter to the meanie seeking reporter about us.
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THAT is verbotin.
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But, I do think Stabby was teasing.
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Haven't read it, but yes, I've heard good things, too.
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Mar 25, 2010 4:54:48 PM CDT
Is that the same Lev Grossman who writes for Time
by water_shit_anderson
magazine?
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his car into our clubhouse?
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taking pictures of my sister?
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to the U.S. Senate about organized crime?
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It's good.
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...but no way we're letting her probe our holy of holies.
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who orders 5 slices of bonertoast for breakfast every morning?
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and ended up shooting himself in the foot?
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...it's a little sentimental, but nobody sells sentimental as successfully as an Italian.
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Check your mail.
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i was going to, but then diarrhea showed up, and it's been way-too long since I've had a chance to hang out with him.
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Mar 25, 2010 5:08:24 PM CDT
wellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
by water_shit_anderson
I gotta go
Its been real
Peace! -
...watch out for bad guys.
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...Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell?
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don't worry about bad guys getting me...batmansters got my back.
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remember to wear shoes when you go outside...
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we're second.Why, if only someone weren't ratcheting up the posts in The Meanback, we'd be on top again already.
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It was always one of those "Sounds cool, but am I interested?"
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...the TV is black, and it would be veeery fun if the TV fell awake.
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Keep fuckin' that chicken.
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...you'd have to sample it and see if you like being there or not.
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I made my point ( again)
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Tjhat's the problem I've had the last three days, and the reason you've all seen so much of me!
Catch you all on the Pedalback in the morrow. Peace, my peeps. -
e la mia filosofia non lo conforta come un fuoco caldo e una coperta spessa.
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Mar 25, 2010 6:03:13 PM CDT
...quando io sono solo mi tiro la filosofia vigorosamente...
by flickapoo
...sotto le coperte.
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Then I'm confused as to why White Vades thinks its an unofficial Commando sequel?
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We're going to have COMPANY? Shit. I am NOT dressed for company. And are we going multilingual now? 'Cause if we are, I'm whipping out my middle-school French on your asses. C'est vrai.
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for fear of having what I post put out in the Times. For example, I almost just posted "Mmmmmm, freshly fucked chicken. THAT'S what I should have gotten for dinner tonight." But then, I didn't post it because I thought it was juvenile and stupid... which, of course, IS THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT. Who needs the beverage?
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http://godxiliary.com/alienvspooh/Large/Click the arrow at the bottom of each page to continue...
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Then Stabby goes Serpico and tries to blow the lid off shit. I guess that could be considered very McQueen. He plays by his own rules. For someone like me, who is on the take, it becomes a bit of a problem. But I made my bed and I have to lay in it.
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...beloved classics, but that is fucking beautiful...why didn't I think of that?Love the crayon, or colored pencil, or whatever that is.
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Mar 25, 2010 6:44:26 PM CDT
Learning conversational Klingon is so last decade...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
Na'Vi language afficinadoes...http://www.slate.com/id/2248683/
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...!!!
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...so I guess I don't have to make movies...someone already beat me to it.
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I never do that! "Fuck the Times, I read the Post"- 25th HOUR
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Well that just shoots my fantasy all to hell. I like to think everyone is posting in their undies. I'm at work so it makes for some awkward moments with co-workers.
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http://tinyurl.com/yd6xb57
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I'm wearing underwear AND pants. Fucking travesty.
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...for the sake of propriety, but I won't break.
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Comic con this weekend and Bruce fucking Campbell is gonna be there as is Peter Mayhew Ray park bernIe wrightson rob liefeld (again!) et al...costs 30 bucks a day to go plus the kiddos...screw
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Disappoint and embarrass everyone who knows you.
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Try to tell your boss you have to much work on your desk.
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In traffic court...
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And try texting it.
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'Cause it looks good on a resume'...
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Because The Marines need translators.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCswbv_b5tk
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That looks really good. Wish I could understand the language.
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Because all the kids are doing it.
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Order Na'Vi food and impress your friends.
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So you can ask to plug your ponytail into your horse's ass.
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with Rosetta Stone. Jake Sully edition.
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And volunteer at a battered Na'Vi woman's clinic.
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You'll be friends with cats in no time!
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can a brother get some subtitles turned ON????
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It's the language of love.
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...and have a fighting chance of understanding übercool Czech semi-stop motion movies.
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...TRIPLETS OF BELLEVILLE guy.
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Sing carols at Na'Vi'Dad time.
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10 million ten-foot tall blue cat-people can't ALL be wrong...
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Mar 25, 2010 7:57:17 PM CDT
ROSETTA STONE GIRL: Lesley Ann Machado- put her on my yes list
by yackbacker
http://tinyurl.com/lvxnr7
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I you are ever walking down a sidewalk and you see an old lady But you wouldn't be laughing if you were the ant that she fell on."
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the Dos Equis guy does. You want to be interesting don't you?
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...and fast-talk your way into a discount on your next dime-bag of catnip.
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It's not just for breakfast anymore...It's also what's for dinner...
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...before judging someone, always be sure to walk a mile in their shoes...
That way, when you judge them, you'll be a mile away...and you'll have their shoes. -
Le Illusionist
http://tinyurl.com/ydyzou4 -
Even YOU could have wicked sex with Zoe Saldana.
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When it absolutely, positively has to be Na'Vi...
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Mar 25, 2010 8:04:03 PM CDT
If you ever drop your keys into a river of molten lava
by lotharius3rd1118
forget 'em. 'Cause, man, they're gone.
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And Cheeses, beanua shak ta han. That means when you have a Na'vi brother, there is no other.
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...and amaze all the other geeks at the next ComiCon with your whiz-bang pronounciation.
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...I don't always speak, but when I do...I speak Na'Vi.
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Mar 25, 2010 8:08:03 PM CDT
After teh second time that happened to me, Lotharman...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
I started putting my keys in my pocket...
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'cause what are you gonna do at the next Comic-Con? Speak Klingon?
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And drive the woman at the McDonald's Drive-Thru insane.
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Unfortunately the beer he's shilling for has a faint aftertasted of metal shavings and peasant urine.
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The first person to find a practical use of the Na'vi language!
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And send a letter to Cheeses' daughter, proclaiming your casually intense love and 6 years of celibacy.
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and have some fun with the missionairies and evangelists who come knocking at your door...
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Because they're taking our jobs!
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"I think there should be nude opera, because when they hit those high notes I bet you can really see it in their genitals."
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Because you've got the Blue Fever and you know it can't be stopped!
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Crap. That would make Miyazaki weep. Those backgrounds are infuckingcredible.
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hahahahahh Cheeses daughters loser guy hahahahahahaha.Here's the trophy man, take it. hahahahaah 6 years of celibacy hahahah.
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And look at the KUKY thing, too.
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...but she probably still won't let your pasty pink ass fuck her.
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I'll be hounding you until I get your review.
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When in Pandora do as the Na'Vi do.
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Because, yeah, THAT'll give you a better shot at the women on your DO list.
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WAS Na'Vi...at least that would explain SOME of it anyway...
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my career in wine sales and make stop-motion in MY backyard. God damn it. I really wish I had tried harder to get into animation when I had the chance.
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...than TRIPLETS.
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I only caught a little. I loved what I saw but I have to go home and make some tweeks before I see the whole thing. It is great. MJW needs bigger action roles
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That was quick. This was the part everyone feared, because Republicans could have made a big stink in the Senate, with unlimited amendments, etc. They didn't though, oddly. I guess they lost their will.
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In case some Na'Vi wants to know the way to the biblioteca.
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Good link, boy-o. Yet again, the French bring it.
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...they have over one hundred words for hairball.
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It's the only language the Universal Health Care Bill is written in...
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I fucking hate foreigners
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Tonight at 10PM: MOOSEFIRE, a roundtable discussion of today's current events.
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You guys are killing me.
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...the phrase "I see you" has over one hundred subtle meanings, depending on the situation and inflection.
One of the most common meanings is "your loincloth is askew and your prick is small, I laugh at you many times." -
its that or French and you only go to Montreal for the field trip in French class.
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with Ed Norton are we? 'Cause that was a good but lesser "The Prestige."
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to realize they've come off as jackasses, or am I just being na'vi?
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Wowzers. I'm fucking smitten!
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Good to rejoin the PB after a week of 14 hour days. Thank God for the fuckin' weekend.
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animated film from the makers of TRIPLETS OF BELLEVILLE.
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I've had limited time here myself lately. I gotta get a Blackberry strictly for PB up keep. My plans not up til July though. Fuck you Verizon.
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In English, loosely translated, that's "The good people passed the good thing in the House."
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The Illusionist > The Prestige. By a HUUUUUGE margin.
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I liked it.
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THE ILLUSIONIST
http://tinyurl.com/ydyzou4
KUKY RETURNS
http://tinyurl.com/y9u6whs -
This is true. Fì'u ngay.
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get the Droid. Unless you're busy and on the road a lot and depend on your phone for your job... in which case, BB Storm2 is awesome... but the browser just isn't as good. The Droid is MADE for browsing the intertubes.
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I missed the "I see you" post. Good thing I scrolled up.
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http://tinyurl.com/yffm4oa
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...those are exactly the kind of games I played in my yard as a kid...why haven't I seen a movie like this before?
Why didn't I make this movie myself? -
Witness the hi jinks on the high seas and floating mountains...
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I just want to geek out about the movie is all :)
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...I sorta hoped it hadn't slipped through the cracks.
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This cat's got the coolest jazz this side of the Mother Nation. He's one jive-talkin', gun-totin', Greek mythology-spoutin', deadbeat dad, karate-kickin' motherfucka! That movie will blow your balls out yo mouth! Don't believe me?! Just watch the scene where Black Dynamite explains to his posse the particulars of the plot is a classic. The orphanage visit is also howlingly funny. Where else can you see the Master of Cool That is Black DYNAMITE!!! vs. nunchuck-wieldin', connivin' conspiracy, hate on the brother man that is RICHARD NIXON!
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We're all fluent here. Sheesh. ☺
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...because James Cameron isn't laughing at you enough already.
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Mar 25, 2010 8:38:21 PM CDT
Yeah, Moose...I even have a master's degree in...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
Cunning Linguistics
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So you can make fun of CLASH OF THE TITANS but none of the geeks get too mad at you.
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What a twat.
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Love that movie! I didn't know the people that made that had anything else out. And moose, thanks for the translation. I've plugged that into my phonics educated mind in order to impress geeky chicks.
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Mac hasn't seen it all the way through yet. The ending... my is it hilarious.
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I took it for the tail, and that's not enough to get you a passing grade.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
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...and the many colorful variations of the phrase "lick my braid, and stick it between your moist, blue cheeks motherfucker!"
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I will happily make fun of "Clash of the Titans" in Na'vi! It's both honorary to the star, and insulting to the movie! That means perfection for a guy, like me, who doesn't say a word about the movie until he's five hundred yards away from the theater.
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been there, done that...
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is my new insult. Im'ma gone go ahead an' use that shit ALL the time.
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And don't make the same mistake the CIA and David Frum did, thinking their Na'Vi intelligence reports proved there were WMDs in Iraq. Too bad none of them read Na'Vi! Way to go, ya dorks!
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...and the all important Na'Vi phrase "I'm enjoying sexing you very much big girl, but you're drunk, mind the tail. Or at least warn me first."
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Cameron neu Uniltìrantokx muntxa hu nga nari slä muntxa hu nga txìm. = "Cameron wanted Avatar to have fucked your eyeballs, but it fucked your butt instead."
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can be ruined. No matter waht, it's so totally insane that it'll be a surprise no matter what. Loved the whole movie, though. Especially the explanation scene, detailing the particulars of the plot. That was jaw-droppingly funny.
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I'd use that shit in bed with your man, if I were you...I know what men like, and that little phrase just sparked a lot of blood flow in the nether regions for me...
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...Weapons of Mass Deliciousness.
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Good luck hiding that shit, buddy.
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In Na'vi?
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Thanks for bringing the rest of the joke home!
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Forgive them. It's been a long week.
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...just like the original. It better not let me down.
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What a rallying cry...Both defiant and sexy at the same time...Got ME all excited...
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for those keeping score..
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http://tinyurl.com/yjxldhk
Also, a dictionary...
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normal and ordinary always bored me to tears...
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But everything pales compared to "Lick my braid!"
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...just as there is no word for "blue".
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That's the key.have you guys seen the perfume and cologne from star trek-- pon faar and Tiberius??
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THE LOSERS, TOY STORY 3, PREDATORS, INCEPTION... I'll go see IRON MAN 2 & ROBIN HOOD if the opportunity (and mood) arises.
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Have fun.
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Are you serious??? You got a link, Sixesman?
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gotta get me a scription.
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Oh my god... THERE ARE NO WORDS for clothes and naked.
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and curse words.
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lick her Na'Vi braid...and she added a 'motherfucker' to it ...all in caps BTW...scroll up a bit and give us YOUR reaction...
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with sound this time. I am so not impressed. WTF is wrong with me?
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http://tinyurl.com/yarlblw
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So, uh, do you want me to, um, work down to the tendrils, or, uh, do you want me just to tangle my tongue in there? ?
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Look up the vocab in the other link to get ideas.
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It's not a great trailer. It's not a particularly good trailer. And Cera is Cera... que Cera!
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Not you, though, Scary. Stay taut.
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I haven't even read the books, and I think he's all wrong for the part.
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I only see an awesome movie coming my way.
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it is quirky and I lend it some credence cause of Wrights involvement but I got and read the first 2 issues and have no desire to get the rest. Plus Cera is all wrong for the part. I'm not a Cera hater by default either.
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Mar 25, 2010 9:11:55 PM CDT
'moose, I get too blinded by my dislike of particular actors
by yackbacker
Especially when comedy is at issue. I cannot watch Ben Stiller movies at all- even if they're legitimately good. Cera is not quite at Stiller level for me yet, but he does aggravate me whenever his mouth moves.
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...and learn why I named my penis Turok...The last shadow you will ever see.
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Now THAT is cool news! YackBacker, I agree with your list, except that I'm not particularly interested in "The Losers." Seen some trailers that make it look like fun, but I'm not sold on the movie as a whole, which make is look like "Con Air" meets "Mission: Impossible III." Can't wait for the others on your list though.
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My problem with Cera and actors like him (Hill, McLovin, etc.) is that they don't possess the worldliness of guys before them that took on similar roles. John Belushi makes these guys look like 5 year-olds. Watch ANIMAL HOUSE. It's a pretty fucking smart movie, even if the subject matter is overtly silly. SUPERBAD is about getting to a party with time to spare to flirt with girls. And the movie is funny, but its forgettable fluff. That's what Cera and these guys represent- disposable, superficial beta-male gags. Comedies used to be smarter. Fuck.
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I'll always give Spielberg the benefit of the doubt, even though he has let me down from time to time. And I'm always eager to check out new Cronenberg and Lynch. They haven't disappointed me yet. Well, except for DUNE. That movie's a straight up piece of shit. I couldn't even pretend to like it.
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The comicbook is fun, but yeah, it's very genre-loyal to the concept (read: derivative). That being said, I'd rather watch a riff on the A-TEAM than the fucking costume party Liam Neeson & Co. made.
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I haven't seen SHUTTER ISLAND because a buddy of mine, who also swears by thy the Gospel of Marty, said it wasn't great. I need to emotionally prepare myself for mediocre Scorsese.
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which makes it sucessful. I don't know. I love the books, which I only started reading when I heard word of the movie. I love Edgar Wright, especially Spaced which is the tits. That trailer did nothing or me though. Here's to hoping that this is just that weird, awesome flick that marketing people just can't figure out how to sell.
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I love everything involving the basketball coach.
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I do like SUPERBAD more than you do, though. However, you're right about Hill and Cera. I can't take them seriously as anything other than geeky high school kids/college freshmen. I'm afraid that even if they get older, they'll still suffer from that lack of worldliness, as you say. I do, however, think your Belushi comparison is a little unfair. He was never meant to be "young" in ANIMAL HOUSE. He was the weird old guy hanging around ("Seven years of college down the fucking drain ... ") getting wasted with these kids. But still, I agree that ANIMAL HOUSE is a smart dumb comedy. The writers certainly seemed to possess a lot more worldliness than Rogen and Goldberg etc. do, and they were a lot less sentimental than Apatow is.
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The Pebrew consensus, however, is that it's good but flawed.
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Mar 25, 2010 9:28:19 PM CDT
Subs, if you're still around, what's your next Netflix DVD?
by colonelfatheart
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And when I say pretty good in terms of Scorcese, I mean "Cape Fear" good. It's not a bad movie by any stretch of the imagination, just lacking in being anything better than a less bombastic "Identity." Worth a watch though and it will be entertaining.
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If I don't get "Age of Innocence" Scorsese, then I'm happy.
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You've restored my enthusiasm in Marty.
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Who does that?
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I have RED CLIFF and CINEMA PARADISO to watch.
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Mar 25, 2010 9:38:29 PM CDT
I really think scholars will look back on SHUTTER ISLAND
by colonelfatheart
as a late-stage masterpiece for Marty. It's a very patient work. Every frame is llovingly crafted. Then again, I feel like I'm pumping up your hopes. I don't want you to be disappointed. I'm kinda the SI outlier on the Pedalback.
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Mar 25, 2010 9:40:26 PM CDT
Guppy (& everyone interested)- rank Scorsese films you've seen
by yackbacker
I'll go first:
TAXI DRIVER
GOODFELLAS
RAGING BULL
MEAN STREETS
GANGS OF NEW YORK
CAPE FEAR
THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST
THE AGE OF INNOCENCE
THE DEPARTED
THE AVIATOR
CASINO
THE KING OF COMEDY
ITALIANAMERICAN
THE COLOR OF MONEY
BRINGING OUT THE DEAD
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It makes him much easier to relate to, from my point of view. However, I agree, I'm tiring of him. The kid from ZOMBIELAND and he have cornered the market on "real" teen roles.
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It was beyond me at the time. I was 18. I'm not the sophisticated young man that 'moose is.
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Should I?
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...so that the third installment, The World's End, of the Blood and Ice Cream Trilogy will have all the money it needs.
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epitomizes your taste in movies. I just got "A Perfect Getaway" (not so bad, almost good), "The Man Who Fell to Earth" (a 1976 Nicholas Roeg movie starring David Bowie as an alien in search of water), and "Sukiyaki Western Django" (my final attempt at allowing that shitty, overhyped hack known as Miike allowed on my TV.) If I return one of these quickly enough, I'll end up with "Muppets Take Manhattan" or "Young Sherlock Holmes."
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A phony relationship between actors like Cera and the subjects they're involved with onscreen. Like the clothes they wear or the music they purport to like. The whole "we're into retro" thing is kind of phony. I bet if you sat them down and talked to them for more than 15 minutes, you'd reach the boundaries of their knowledge on the things they claim to love. That's the vibe I get from them.
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nodes 44407 and 44406
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THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST RAGING BULL GOODFELLAS TAXI DRIVER MEAN STREETS THE LAST WALTZ CASINO SHUTTER ISLAND NO DIRECTION HOME AFTER HOURS THE DEPARTED GANGS OF NEW YORK THE COLOR OF MONEY CAPE FEAR THE AVIATOR THE KING OF COMEDY BRINGING OUT THE DEAD
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THE AVIATOR and THE KING OF COMEDY.
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GOODFELLAS
RAGING BULL
CASINO
THE KING OF COMEDY
THE AGE OF INNOCENCE
TAXI DRIVER
AVIATOR
SHUTTER ISLAND
THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST
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It was definitely one that I knew I wouldn't "get" at that age. I think I can take it on right now.
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oops
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...No More Heroes, a fucking awesome game.
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I'll get to watching it soon!
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ANTICHRIST and SALO, but I want to get out and see a flick I know my lady won't want to see. The local arthouse theater has A PROPHET, THE WHITE RIBBON and THE GHOST WRITER. Which should I see? I'm leaning toward A PROPHET.
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maybe a little unfairly. You know, it's not his fault Diablo Cody wouldn't know a real teenager if she had one living in her bra.But, to his credit, he makes that crap more tolerable for me because of the way he looks and acts, so maybe I'm giving him more credit than he deserves. Sort of the reverse of what I think you're doing.
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I think A PROPHET or THE GHOST WRITER would be my choice.
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Mar 25, 2010 9:58:40 PM CDT
SCOTT PILGRIM is basically a gamer's delight, huh, 'moose?
by colonelfatheart
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in theaters. As far as ranking Scorsese movies, Yack: Scorsese has been on a hell of a streak lately and that's why I put "The Aviator" at the top. "Goodfellas" (the penultimate mob movie) follows. "Gangs of New York" is here (mainly for the breakneck pace and period detail.) "Taxi Driver" still haunts me. I love the superlative creepiness of "Cape Fear" (which is still one of the best remakes ever.) I really appreciated "The Last Temptation of Christ" and will never understand the weird Christian uproar over it. "The Departed" is pure fun. I like the style and acting of "Raging Bull" more than the uninteresting story. I really liked "Casino." "The Age of Innocence" bored the shit out of me slightly more than the Wharton novel it's based on. At least with Edith Wharton there was an end in sight. I've never seen any of the others on the list, though "Mean Streets" is high on my list.
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I saw KUNDUN in the theaters.
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But something about THE WHITE RIBBON attracts me. Then again, reading about Haneke films, in my experience, is better than actually watching them.
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Hmm. That would be after AVIATOR on my list.
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G'night, Col.
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What a great movie! What a great Band!
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I'm an idiot.
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Awesome stuff tonight so far.
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You don't let those bedbugs bit, y'hear!
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Thanks for starting that introspective look at the movies of Martin.
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"Bringing Out the Dead." Aside from a balls-out performance by Cage and a lot of fascinating portrayals by Ving Rhames, Tom Sizemore, and Rosanna Arquette. That movie just didn't click with me. I thought it was silly, especially in the dream sequence, and overly ramped-up for the subject matter.
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at least one theater would have seen some traffic for that flick.
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Where is everybody? I'm alone. And Sad.
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I'm not sure I'm comfortable with my list.
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It's been a wild, bumpy day.
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...he hasn't made one movie I want to see more than once.
And he hasn't made one movie that I'd want to live in, or that represents the world I know.
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http://tinyurl.com/yzl6nj3
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...I don't give a shit about that.
I'm not studying to be a filmmaker. There are plenty of painters/illustrators that I look at because they have things to teach me, but I watch movies for fun.
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Mar 25, 2010 10:44:41 PM CDT
I think the problem with ranking with Scorsese is...
by lotharius3rd1118
The effect that each of his movies grows or loses over time. For example, "Taxi Driver" continues to grow in its semblance while the more static presentations of "The Aviator" grow overlooked. What defines The Great Marty, however, is his characteristic, fast-paced style. Like Bay if Bay ever had a great story on his mind. Or an idea of any kind, for that matter. He delivers consitently beautiful pictures with solid, exciting cadences that he has since the 70's.
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I was putting on a shirt and suddenly realized it was inside-out! DUN-DUN-DUNNNN!!!!
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But at least this weekend looks like smooth sailing.
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Where that camera trucked in like it was on a grease-slide towards the main character. Once the 90s arrived, he started to become less kinetic.
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Combination of me working very different hours and her not ever wanting to have sex or being too tired to have sex when we're home together. And it makes me think about having sex with ex-gf's and ex-hookups. Sigh.
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http://tinyurl.com/yeyxbfh
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...and heartfelt stance on Scorsese.
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That's rough.
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Keep Dirty Vader away from her!
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http://tinyurl.com/yk4rynf
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...and I've been married almost 13 years.
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I appreciate his work, but overall I never embraced it or connected with it emotionally.
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I've been through Hell this week with some really shitty things that went wrong on shoots, which were only partially, and very partially, my fault too. And tonight I get off early/on time, come home, get a phone call offering me a props job on Vampire Diaries in Atlanta... and my gf is out with attorney folk. And so she comes home, a bit drunk and willing to stay up late, and I think "hey, maybe we can have sex tonight" and I drop some very non-subtle hints by saying things like "hey, maybe we can have sex tonight". And what do I end up doing? Taking out all the trash and recycling (4 trips to the street total) only to have her go to bed when I finish bc she's tired. GORRAMNIT. This week has been fucking hell. Hell enough to insure that I might NOT work with 2 of the 5 coordinators in town again for over a year. Which is why I'm getting fucking drunk right now. Bc the Vampire Diaries Atlanta job fell through due to me getting back to them an hour later and they found someone else. So now I got no job and no sex. And... well.. just... ARRRGH!
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Intelligent chicks are some of the best kinds to have in bed. They know the different positions and are most likely willing to try new things.
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I wonder, sometimes, if that was the point. Since most critics seem to classify his work as being very cold anyway.
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Sorry, dude...
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Hell I don't remember. What I DO remember is that she didn't want to do it the weekend of her birthday. Or the weekend after. Or the weekend before. Or any time in between. Course, I'm partially to blame for some of that, as I tend to stay up later than she and will stay up to watch movies or work on the computer. But the times I am willing to go to bed at the same time as her, she doesn't want to have sex. And she'll never try to start it. Its frustrating. So like I said, it makes me start looking toward old "friends" more and more. Which is sad. And I don't like it. But... eh.
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That Kubrick never fully engaged my imagination, cold side, warm side, etc. I've watched most of his films, and of them all, I liked THE KILLING the most, even though I objectively know that's not his best film. His best stuff just doesn't rev my engine.
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...the camera's little boy point of view, the self absorbed "creative" dad...being scared in large strange places...
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The tree is really sexy too, she's a Japanese Maple, wearing a schoolgirl outfit and pulling her branches into pigtails.
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I love Scorsese 'cause he's no the type of filmmaker that has a particular look, but a peculiar style. He invokes interest for me. Do I think he's overpraised? Yes, for certain things. But I also think that people overlook him for other accomplishments. "The Aviator," for instance, is a brilliant examination of love (Hughes' fancy for aeroplanes) and reality (a life barely lived.)
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Production truck I was driving broke down before 6 am the other day. Another commercial may have to pay a lot more money for talent that was accidentally put into more than one commercial during a shoot that was shooting 3 different ads all at the same time. Each incident was partially my fault. Though the truck breaking down on me was NOT my fault at all. The engine kept dying on me while I was on the highway. I pulled off and couldn't restart the truck, so I called in the cavalry. Unfortunately, I left the truck in gear when it died, and THAT'S why it wouldn't turn back on. So when the service guys and rental truck company guys appear, they see I didn't have it in gear and I messed up on that point. And then they drive the truck back home and have NO problems whatsoever. So I look like a fucking idiot that just cost the company more money bc I didn't put the truck in gear. Never mind the fact that it died on me while driving on the highway before 6 am. Never mind the fact that IF I had realized it was in gear and then put it back in park AND successfully restarted the truck, thatit most likely would have died on me within 3 minutes again... yeah never mind all that. Bc I look like the idiot bc they had no problems 3 hours after the fact, after it had time to sit and recuperate. I can't explain it. But it makes me look dumb. And that fucking pisses me off.
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About Kubrick. I love a lot of his films (The Killing, Paths of Glory, 2001, Dr. Strangelove and especially A Clockwork Orange) but almost all of his films feel emotional distant, and a lot of his other classics (Barry Lyndon, Full Metal Jacket, Lolita, The Shining) just seem emotional empty and hollow. In fact it is almost all of his later movies that just don't do it for me, like they lack any sort of real humanity IMO.
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FULL METAL JACKET, PATHS OF GLORY
I connected to those on nearly every level.CLOCKWORK ORANGE and THE SHINING were purposefully off-putting, and I could appreciate that that was exactly the point.2001 bored, bores, will forever bore me.I can't get with Flick's anti-Scorsesism, at all. But, that's all right. I can accept that Flick and I have different movie-appreciation buttons. -
Mar 25, 2010 11:10:24 PM CDT
..."Japanese Maple...schoolgirl outfit...branches into pigtails"
by flickapoo
...AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Fucking guy comes down from Mt. McQueen right when I need him most. I can go to bed soon having had this moment. By the way, have you seen KUNDUN? If so, thoughts?
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supposed to be pulling my strings, which is exactly the reason he's only ever really succeeded once.
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I remember seeing his buddy Hubert Cornfield talk before his movies THE THIRD VOICE and PLUNDER ROAD, and someone asked him about Kubrick and he everyone was expecting him to praise EYES WIDE SHUT (which came out that month) and he had the greatest line:
"It is to bad his last movie was a piece of shit."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcOjpG27LEQ Makes me want to pick it up and start practicing everyday again.
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...the emergency brake on, and the overheated fucking thing set a hayfield on fire.
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Mar 25, 2010 11:16:07 PM CDT
KUNDUN is an interesting and marvelous mediation on spirituality
by continentalop
That just doesn't work. Sorry, I love you Scorsese both I just don't think you do Transcendentalism that well. Terrence Mallick should have done that film.
But I am always reminded of what Scorsese said about Michael Powell and his great film THE RED SHOE and the scene in it when the ballet dancer imagines the waves crashing towards her: even when he failed miserably, you had to admire the audacity and passion he put in those failures. -
Oh, and PATHS OF GLORY is my second-favorite Kubrick film. The end scene alone is wonderful.
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Kubrick made a bad movie ever. EYES was probably my least favorite of his... painful to sit through, not very interesting either. And why even bother saying it takes place in NYC when it's so obviously not NY? That annoyed me on a personal level.
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But Scorsese has made the Holy Quartet of Films for me: Mean Streets, Raging Bull, Taxi Driver and GoodFellas. All four are on my top 100, the last three are in my top 20, and the last two are tied for #1 as my all time favorite films.
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http://www.activitaly.it/immaginicinema/imago/images/Edwige%20Fenech_jpg.jpg
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http://tinyurl.com/yasjjhd
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I actually thing that is my favorite Berg movie.
I actually really like a lot of his more recent movies like MINORITY REPORT and CATCH ME IF YOU CAN except for both those movies there is something he does that undermines his own movie. That is why I can never get into the Berg - he always has to play it just a little to safe. -
I haven't had sex in over a year. I don't count the occassional bone my sympathetic lesbian friends throw me 'cause they are terrible in the sack.
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By the way, I LOVE DUEL. Good to see you, Conti. I'm prob the only guy here that really enjoys The Terminal. And god, what a fantastic theme by late-in-his-career John Williams.
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I don't expect perfection. Just give me a great movie once in awhile (or the threat that you still have one more great movie up your sleeve) and I will happily watch your movies.
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Flick's Edwige Fenech photo.
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That sucks. But I can understand that. I've been in trucks where the parking break got stuck and was impossible to lower. Fucking rental trucks.
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...I guess at a certain point it's just a question of what tickles your cinematic pink parts.
The things he thinks about aren't the things I dream about.
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But it saddens me. Bc it reminds me of college when I could have anyone just throw me a bone when we got drunk.
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What I meant was, I had friends who, if I was feeling up to it, could reach out to, talk with, get drinks with, and have a great chance of scoring with by the time the night was through. All that is over now.
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Mar 25, 2010 11:27:37 PM CDT
MY THOUGHTS... which, of course, you were all awaiting...
by scarywaitress
with baited breath.
1. FlickaPoo has fully, completely encapsulated my feelings toward Scorsese: "Awe, Amuse, seduce, inspire, delight, or titillate me, or get the fuck out." He doesn't do that for me. He's got me on a strictly intellectual level... and that's not enough. It's funny, because one of the big reasons I stopped being a CHRISTIAN- and this is (according to my mother-in-law) life or death- is that the "faith" didn't engage me all the way, intellectually and emotionally... so, what I'm saying is, God Himself didn't get to me intellectually... and, on the flip side, Scorsese doesn't get me emotionally. So, put God and Scorsese together, and you will either have my perfect deity, or the best filmmaker ever, Take your pick. 2. D.Vades: I'm sorry, man, but I think it's over. I'm really, REALLY sorry... 'cause you seem like a nice guy, you reportedly look like Eric Bana... and, judging from the t-shirt pic, you're in shape. But she's just not into you. And that's not cool. And, I'm sorry. 3. The "Lick my braid, motherfucker!" line was paraphrased from an earlier post by Flick. I just need to make sure you all know that... I do not take credit for originality. (I DO understand, it's hotter when a chick says it, though.) and 4. I am slightly drunken, and in need of... well, hmm... I guess this is none of your business, really, but I would like -beeeeeeeeeeeeep- done to me in the VERY near future. So, 'scuse me whuile I whip these out. G'nite, gents! And, again: sorry, D'Vades, for your troubles... -
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JAWS is a damn near perfect film. CLOSE ENCOUNTERS is far less interesting than it once was, RAIDERS is damn near perfect, E.T. is great until you turn 12, then you start to see the manipulation in plain sight, TEMPLE is fun, dumb, annoying and fun all over again, I dig EMPIRE OF THE SUN a lot, LAST CRUSADE is an example of popcorn entertainment, which I enjoy repeatedly, HOOK is sweet, weird but probably better than I realize, JURASSIC PARK is a classic, probably the last great genre flick that Spielberg made, SCHINDLER'S was very good, LOST WORLD was a terrible piece of work, PRIVATE RYAN pisses me off for being so manipulative, I love A.I. for the Kubrickian elements (ironic, right?), and the rest... all feel like one big Janusz Kaminski daydream.
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But like "The Shining"? I don't know how to react to that. I think Kubrick's last interesting movie was "A Clockwork Orange" which is spectacular. But my personal favorite is "2001" and I truly, utterly despise the dreck that was "Full Metal Jacket." It's a shitty film. Don't argue. I will discound "Eyes Wide Shut" from the category of crappy Kubrick movies simply because of the time that I saw it and the fact that he died while making it. In the end, however, Kubrick was nothing more than a visually talented Paul Schrader and far less in his efforts than a lesser Verhoeven. "2001" is still awe-inspiring though, and the first movie I picked up on Blu-Ray.
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of KUNDUN, preferring it to THE LAST TEMPTATION. Maybe it's my own ignorance of The Dalai Lama. But, the whole idea - honestly and faithfully believed - that this boy is not human being but a reincarnated spiritual being wouldn't work for me if it were shown with warts. I liked that romantic, arm's-length reserve.
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What is this "She is just not into you" shit? Did some girl dump or blow you off DV? Because I know EXACTLY how you feel this week. Actually last two weeks.
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Professional.
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I appreciate your kind thoughts. And I would be more than happy to beeeeeeeeeeeeeep you right now, if it makes you feel any better.
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Mar 25, 2010 11:31:38 PM CDT
lotharius, I will half disagree about FULL METAL JACKET
by continentalop
First half is brilliant. Second half to me is just a director becoming excessive.
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I wrote a great essay on it in college about the movie being a metaphor for how communal experiences can enrich the soul. The communal experience of seeing the aliens at the end was akin to the communal experience of watching a movie in the theater with a crowd.
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Mar 25, 2010 11:32:24 PM CDT
Man Yack, sometimes me and you have scary similar taste
by continentalop
I forgot - have you seen VICE SQUAD?
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Let the flames ensue. I hate Ray Liotta (in anything but Field of Dreams) I hate Joe Pesci (thank God THAT obnoxious little fad is over) and I thought the whole mobster-glam thing was lame. I'm from Connecticut. This Jersey-riche thing does NOT impress me. That movie was trying too hard. IMO.
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and I always do as I am asked, I will not argue.
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Are all about one thing. JAWS is about horror. Close Encounters is about spirituality. Raiders is about adventure. E.T. is about love.
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OMG, just stop. You will NOT seduce me with your love of Close Encounters. For the record: I will always have a soft spot for Dreyfus. Period. And do NOT read anything into that, you sick bastards. Just DO NOT.
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I haven't seen it yet. But it's on my list.
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...if that NYT lady is real she needs to be reading tonight...she'll have to trash her little article and start fresh.
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Its been far too long since we've had sex and its made me consider having sex with old gfs and hookups in the meantime.
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Damn females. Am I right or amiright?
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That's the story- there is no fairy-tale ending in the Mob. Everyone dies or stabs you in the back. The End.
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To me GOODFELLAS is THE mobster movie. It doesn't judge or try to glamorize or condemn. It just presents how Wise Guys live and operated, and the fact that it looks so appealing is the truth of the matter - the life of a Wise Guy is appealing and has a pull.
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That way you can sleep around and she can't get upset. Plus she will constantly be boning you because she'll be afraid to lose you.
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Because... I FUCKING LOVE CLOSE ENCOUNTERS!!! Man, I was so disappointed in all my friends during film school summer camp in 11th grade when, after a showing of Close Encounters, they all said it was boring and they didn't like it. "Fuck you, fools," I silently thought to myself. Close Encounters is a freaking great film about obsession and spirituality and the search and drive to find meaning in one's life. And damnit, those friendly yet seemingly-evil aliens freaking rule. And Dreyfuss is the quintessential Spielbergian middle-class family man.
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It is pure 80s exploitation involving Wings Hauser as an evil Cowboy pimp - and it is one of my all time favorite movies. Me and Stuntcock Mike once did a live chat on it because we both love the movie so much.
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I thought she was trying to resist you as you pulled on her CLOSE ENCOUNTERS strings.
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that shit's on Hulu! I'll watch that tonight!
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... admitted to it. I started out a hopeless romantic and was so for most of my life, until I got screwed over by a few women in succession and started the hookup phase in college. Now I have no greater desire than to go back to that. I cultivated many friendships that blossomed into hookup situations (that sounds like I did it just to reap the benefits, but that's not true, it just always seemed to work out that way). As for telling HER that... well I made the mistake in Vegas last october, after 4 days of non-sex in the hotel room because we were tired, and after being rebuffed once more, that if she didn't do it, I'd find someone else. We were drunk and that's an extremely offensive and mean thing to say... but I don't think the point got across well.
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CLOSE ENCOUNTERS never did much for me. I prefer JAWS and DUEL to it any day of the week.
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Because we're living together. Oy.
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But Close Encounters rocks my world every time.
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You have no idea how happy I was to see someone mention "Empire of the Sun" which was one of my favorite movies growing up. It's a spectacular, David Lean-esque entertainment that resonated through a child's mind more completely that anything else released by any other filmmaker. I also love to see some love for "A.I." which is amazing. I still love "E.T." for it's place in time, more than its ability to connect to an audience. I personally like "The Lost World" but I have a hard time sepparating the experience of seeing it vs. the reality.
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like in the Looney Toons where the cat thinks its a mouse and then the big ass kangaroo comes out.
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Mar 25, 2010 11:48:42 PM CDT
It is funny DV, because I have been pretty much just polyamorous
by continentalop
For the last couple of years and I am "dating" two girls right now, and I just had my fucking heart broken because I fell head over heels over this one girl recently. I didn't want to even do the poly thing any more, just wanted to date her.
And then she pretty much tells me she just isn't attracted to me. I've got friends laughing at me because I got bummed out over one girl I only kissed twice and never slept with, but fuck - this was the one girl I actually really, really liked.
Of course calling one of my friends with benefits numbs the pain, but rejection still hurts like a mother fucker. I'm not angry at her - fuck, she isn't attracted to me, how can I be angry there - but man, it sure as shit doesn't help my self-fucking-esteem. -
You are fucked. And not the way you want to be.
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CLOSE but no seegar! Eh? EHHH?!? Hehehehe. Ehhhh...
I'm off to watch VICE SQUAD now. Good night Pebrews! -
And don't be afraid to be honest about what you think of it.
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A visceral experience of the highest order. Honestly, though, you've never seen that movie 'til you've seen it in a packed Mid-south packed theater. I'm always surprised by the people that hate Jeremy Davies character and what that says about that person.
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for so long I would roll my eyes whenever I saw anything about it. I really enjoyed it for the first time in years. I have to watch CE again. It has been far to long. AI..meh. Long and dismal. Jaws is of course...one of the best movies ever.
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Its my absolute favorite out of all the New Spielberg films. I like The Lost World for all of his interesting camerawork and, well, I'm a sucker for good dinosaur action.
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Are DUEL, JAWS and SCHINDLER'S LST.
RAIDERS is a movie I love, but I just don't rank it as high as those three.
And I will tell you right now, I am not a fan of SAVING PRIVATE RYAN. I was the happiest camper when I heard that Xi and some others hated that movie - I always felt alone. -
Here, in case anyone is interested: http://tinyurl.com/yktunxk Talk to you all tomorrow!
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Sounds familiar though, I can sympathize. And why did I move in with my gf? I felt like it was time to do so, I was 27, just turned 28, it made her happy, I was scared but ready to take the plunge... ... But now I just wanna go back to college. And I'm reminded of the time we broke up for a period and she was with another guy and, well, I feel like I didn't get my chance to be with someone else in the interim (I wasn't) and I wonder if I just did it now if I'd feel better and even about the whole affair. As for your drama, that really sucks. About all I can say, bc I don't think I've got anything that will make you feel better about it. Except that meaningless sex, while meaningless, does have its place.
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Entertainong the SHIT out of... well, me, I guess. My TOP 20 MOVIES OF ALL TIME* *The following list is based on re-watchability factor first. The author does not take responsibility for the spelling of re-watchability. Also, the author may be drunken, but she is happy to defend everything on this list in the morning over coffee. THE TOP 10* *Indicates that, if I were stranded on a desert island with a DVD player, the movies the author would take with her to last her until the end of her days. AND, the author should specify, can take care of herself, dammit. So, it would be a WHILE before the author perished. IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER Raiders of the Lost Ark Jaws Aliens Blazing Saddles Indiana Jones: Last Crusade Sunshine Shawshank Redemption Tin Cup Nausicaa: Valley of the Wind Wall-E 10 THROUGH 20 (again, in no particular order) M*A*S*H Little Big Man Nobody's Fool Die Hard Untouchables 2010 (Hey, I love me some Roy Sheider. Fuck the haters.) Princess Mononoke My Neighbor Totoro Braveheart Bull Durham
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Ass crack of dawn and all...
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I am not someone to dwell on negatives and mope and pout. In a couple of weeks I will have completely moved on. But I can say in all honesty I can't remember falling for someone as bad as this.
But I am not one of those brooding people believe that you have only one chance at love, or you have one soul mate, or you even need love.
To quote Joe Pesci in GoodFellas when Scorsese's mom asked him why doesn't he settle down:
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And I've got the whole bearded Richard Dreyfus look from the mid-70's. Am I in?
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GoodfellasColor of MoneyCasinoTaxi DriverRaging BullThe DepartedCape FearKing of ComedyShutter IslandGangs of New York(DDL)The Last WaltzThe AviatorKundunBringing out the Dead
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My favorite of the Indy saga as well! And watching Shawshank Redemption, no matter my mood, ALWAYS makes me feel better about life.
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night yall
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Now I look like Eric Bana from Troy with a haircut.
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I love it when they both sign out at the same time.
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Have you shot any shorts lately?
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I'd like to settle down this night. Sigh. Back to stalking Facebook photos of ex-fuck buddies.
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One would be for a contest; the due date is the second week in April. The other is just an exercise in shooting action, with fun camera angles and editing. Its a little more difficult to plan due to the necessity of certain props, ie, multiple taxidermied animals. So, a few weeks could turn into a few months depending on how much prep it takes. But so far, that's all I have in the pipeline. Two shorts and another in the fall that I've put off for two years bc I can only do it when the ground is covered with leaves. Or I could hire an art dept to do that, but I'm poor!
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Spielberg (Love some of his movies, but the majority just don't do it for me)
Michael Mann (THIEF is the one film by him I absolutely love)
Ridley Scott (love THE DUELIST and ALIEN, but I am one of the few TBers who does not like BLADE RUNNER)
James Cameron (TERMINATOR and ALIENS were great, the rest meh for me)
Wes Anderson (he does nothing for me)
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Again, in no particular order... Close Encounters The Goodbye Girl The Music Man (fuck anyone who talks shit about this. I WILL KILL YOU.) Field of Dreams Jin Pin Mei Minority Report Star Wars Cinema Paradiso Mediterraneo French Kiss
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Edited anything good lately, or met up with any interesting celebs?
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I've decided to recently start shooting stuff again and man, is it expensive. Especially for me because I don't have a bunch of hungry film student buddies who want to help me - I've got a bunch of professionals who demand a big pay check or else can only put forth little time towards it.
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With Paul Newman and inimatable Jessica Tandy? I love that fucking movie. Bruce Willis was such an ass in that flick! BTW, you had a good list. I can't even count the time that I've watched "Jaws" or "The Untouchables" or "Aliens." Actually, I remember my mom (she's a long time veteran of the Missouri school system) telling me not to show her fifth grade students the awesomeness that was "Aliens." She got paid 'cause of her work on the Bridge of Terabithia book, but I'd like to think that her classroom was where the magic happened.
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With Paul Newman and inimatable Jessica Tandy? I love that fucking movie. Bruce Willis was such an ass in that flick! BTW, you had a good list. I can't even count the time that I've watched "Jaws" or "The Untouchables" or "Aliens." Actually, I remember my mom (she's a long time veteran of the Missouri school system) telling me not to show her fifth grade students the awesomeness that was "Aliens." She got paid 'cause of her work on the Bridge of Terabithia book, but I'd like to think that her classroom was where the magic happened.
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Don't laugh. The guy pays good and he is actually pretty nice.
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Interesting, Ess. By the way, I freaking LOVE Wall-E for its sci-fi tropes and thematic overthrow-of-totalitarian-regimes subtext.
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What, the whole floppy Colin Farrell thing wasn't working?!?!?!? Which is weird, 'cause every other female is all over that Colin Farrell floppy hair shit. Me? I just see more $ for shampoo, and scrape 'em off...
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A friend of mine, the son of Warren Oates actually, is trying to get tickets to see Neil Young when he comes to NC next month. I'm jealous, Conti. And I hate that he's Canadian! How could you stand it?!?
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Hitting up the local community technical college ? Though being in LA, I imagine EVERYONE does it. Here, there's much less production so its much easier to get that kind of free help. Least, I assume it is, based on some CraigsList ads for the area.
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I didn't think there was a woman with a womb strong enough to take his Ultra-Cool and Manly seed.
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As much as I wanted it, my hair is much too wavy and curls at the ends. I've never had the straight hair look, though I wanted it badly. Until some girls took a flatiron to my hair one day at the beach. That was fun. But I ended up looking too much like some d-bag model. But yeah, I cut it. Its getting hot and I wanted the shorter shaggy look I had back in October, which was the first time I had a haircut in like 2 years (not counting cutting off a pony tail at home in between).
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I have now watched this movie over and over again about 347 times, due to the fact that my toddler requests it periodically, and since my one purpose on this earth is to produce PROPER offspring, in mind and body, I indulge her far too frequently: Wall-E is a stunningly well-crafted film. From the look, to the soundtrack, to the story... to the underlying themes. NOTHING is lacking. I was recently struck- on, like, the 300th viewing- by how Wall-E cofronts a whole society of normalcy and stagnation with simple friendship and goodwill, and WILL, and changes so much JUST BY EXAMPLE. What better way to teach your children to behave in this strange world? WHAT, I ask you? Plus, it really is just fucking adorable. Wall-E is SO goddamn endearing. Makes me want to barf.
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Not gonna complain about "The Music Man" which I haven't seen in a long time, but "Minority Report," I just can't get behind. I had high hopes for that flick and was disappointed at every turn by the sluggish pacing and the over-exposure of Janusz Kaminski's cinematography. It was just a lame movie for me, no matter how well it was shot or written.
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A few weeks ago, the local Photography club/group/art society in Charlotte screened two of Warren Oates' films- Two Lane Blacktop and Badlands- without realizing his son was in the audience.
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Mar 26, 2010 12:22:03 AM CDT
No, I actually got a lot of people to work on it for free
by continentalop
From MUD and starting out in the business. But really the costly thing is me - I have just such a big nut of personal expenses. And so do my friends who want to work on it. We just can't devout a lot of time to it - or do it fast if we do want to take time.
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But he teaches by being more human than the humans, by showing how to love and how to think for oneself. I guess that's obvious and I'm just telling you what you already know, but I always loved that about the film. Wall-E was the human and humanity was the robots following orders.
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Hell... if you've got the proper pecs (which your t-shirt pic affirms...) a Caesar would be FINE. Pecs > hair. Period. Of course, nether things trump all... but I'm a married woman, with a husband to attend to. So, I am to bed. SUBS and MOOSE... I expect my Top 30 List will be added to the Archives, as is proper and just. As a full member of the Pedalback, I request that it be so... and I humbly request that all members lay down the same. THIRTY FILMS TO TAKE WITH YOU TO A DESERT ISLE. These should reflect YOUR SOUL, not YOUR TASTE or YOUR GEEK "INTEGRITY." Be a man. Admit who you are. I, the One Female, throw down the gauntlet.
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involves the fat, slug-like, humans who are able to miraculously walk during their fight for control. Their physiology doesn't permit it! They're bones would break. Although, I also had a problem with dogs flying airplanes in "Up."
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I'll continue working on those pecs for you.
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Cracks me up everytime. I love it.
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In the spirit of Buster Keaton and Charlie Chaplin. In fact, aboard the ship the entire thing plays like MODERN TIMES.
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Vades... dump your girl. And, let this be a lesson: thou shalt not live with a woman that is not your wife. TRUST me on this: they all say it's the way to go, live with first- I say, if there's an out, one of you will take it, because humans bug the SHIT out of each other. Shit or get off the pot, mate wise. MY OPINION ONLY. I think, just having the commitment out there just saves a lot of drama if you take it seriously. I SAY THIS still being sorry you're having the troubles, I am not starting shit. I STAND BY MY LIST. I had to be pretty drunken to put it out there in front of all of y'all, do-gooders that you are. This is a pantheon of geeks... I am not ignorant of my place. If you criticize, you had DAMN WELL better put up a list. I stripped, here, gents. Let's see YOUR full Monties! Fresh coffee in the morning! Nite all...
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I, too, recognized that there was NO FUCKING WAY that Captain was walking if his bone structure was that far gone. A few laps around the jogging track? Those people were going to need YEARS of HARD-CORE PHYSICAL THERAPY. P'shaw. However... not reason enough to diss the whole movie. As with many films, with the "baby-humans" you need to suspend belief a little. But, I see your point, and don't completely disagree.
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I need to go -beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep- my husband, if I want to stay married. 'Scuse me while I whip these out.
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... the BEST FAT JOKE EVER. You know, when they were all sliding down towards the walls and got stuck between tables and chairs... Heheheheh....
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Sorry to hear about your sexual grumpiness dude. But shit. Try being married with 3 kids and the record being 2 1/2 YEARS. 5 weeks is like McQueen doing a stretch in the cooler for me. I'm not making fun of you. just saying I know that pain. We are very different that way, but God almighty. Not only that, but due to plycystic ovaries and things we thought it'd take ages for her to fall pregnant the first time. But - BANG! And then there were the twins. Talk about two for the price of one! So, you're not alone in beig alone, brother Vades.
Oh! And I found the Die Hard thing. Sorry, both things were true. I've been very tired lately. All work and no Peebs makes Vanilla a very frustrated boy.
Oh, and I shaved my head completely a couple of weeks back. It was one of those Leukaemia foundation World's greatest shave things, at my kids' school. They asked if there were any volunteers, and I just did it to see how my kids would react. Lucy prefaced everything after that with "Even though you don't look like my Daddy..." Ha! -
Wish my wife was a little more "Scary". Ah well, nothing's ever simple or perfect. Btw, what do you think of Clockwork Orange? Not trying to paint in broad strokes but it's been my experience that any chick who's seen it doesn't care to watch that thing ever again.
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The Commando/Die-Hard thing:
"In 1986, a sequel was written by Steven E. de Souza, and revised by Frank Darabont, with an eye to having John McTiernan direct. The script was based on the book 'Nothing Lasts Forever' by Roderick Thorp, but Schwarzenegger wasn't interested in reprising the role. The script was then reworked with a new central character, eventually played by Bruce Willis, and became Die Hard."
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Holy shit, I'm sorry! I suddenly picture you as that married couple from that HBO show, "Tell Me You Love Me", the middle-aged ones with kids that hadn't had sex in years bc, well, it just sorta happened before they realized it, and now it was too awkward to try. Hope that's not the case.
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Well THAT had a Speed Racer vibe to it, eh?
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The way the shots have that moving image quality, with the motion lines and the way its edited, is extremely impressive regarding manga and comic illustration tropes.
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Mar 26, 2010 1:23:15 AM CDT
It's lonely here in the future, when all the little PBers
by white_vader
have gone to bed.
I'm disappointed in all of you with your hotties. Not one mention of Monica? Come ON people!
Other hot Italian/Italianish Mamas - Sophia Loren, Gina Lollobrigida, Linda Evangelista (well, Linda's not super smart like the others and has had a bit much botox now, but back in the day...). -
...and that looks like a lot of fun. Like you said, D., live-action anime, but not like Speed Racer. Kind of a Cowboy Bebop/Street Fighter 2/Batman (1966) thing. Is this the year of indie comic movies? No, not really, but it's nice to see them popping up in the mainstream.
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Woof! Wanna makes me sit up for buttermilk.
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buttermilk. If you're gonna quote mediocre Schwarzenegger films, do it right goddamnit.
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Don't worry. The night shift has arrived.
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Siouxie & The Banshees. I'm listening to it right now.
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D'oh. Damn return instead of tab button!
Right. Yes seriously. In my experience love and lust just don't always go together. It's not that I don't try, but let's just say I don't believe in surprise sexing, heh. It never "just happened" and was always an uneasy thing with us. Me being not even a testosterone loaded caveman but definitely blinded by everything to do with women, and her just not caring either way. We were best mates before the relationship so it's not as simple as not being sexually compatible. Things are getting a bit ridiculous though. I feel like I'M the ignored wife who always has to talk about the relationship.
Haven't seen that show. I don't generally watch telly anymore, thanks to the glory of DVD/Blu-ray series sets. Oh and "middle-aged". Ugh. I guess so, but... I dunno, maybe it's the discrepancy between my physical and mental age that's starting to bug me... when is it supposed to start exactly?
And I'm looking forward to Scott Pilgrim. Wright has been right so far. And fuck everyone, I loved Speed Racer. Most people's comments on that one have nothing to do with the fact they acheived exactly what they set out to do on that one. The cartoon didn't give a flying fuck about physics either, pedants! -
Were you quoting 'Big Trouble in Little China'? I gotta know.
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As for comicky-type flicks, I really enjoyed KickAss, but the only thing that bugs me in the trailers is that they keep using that "Comick Books had it wrong..." line. Remember the most popular "Super Hero" at the mo, "Bat-Man"?! HE doesn't have super powers EITHER, doofuses!
And yeah Gina. Holy moly. That waist could go up against Janet Leigh. -
I'm just wondering what you're quoting.
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I think I'm having a heart attack! Way go much caffeine tonight.
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I am really looking forward to Kick-Ass. But I'm more excited about tomorrow-I'm gonna see all three Evil Dead movies in a row-on the big screen! I've only seen 'Army of Darkness' in the theater, so I'm really pumped for this.
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"Let's try that again" was definitely in one the Rabbit Seasoning or Duck Rabbit Duck ones - you know, "Rabbit Season!" "Duck Season!" Rabbit season!" "Rabbit Season!" "Duck Season! FIRE!" BANG. "Let's try that again". Can't remember if he said it in Robin Hood Daffy though. Oh dear, will hafta look at them again!
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is classic. And I say it every time I hit return/post instead of tabbing...
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I just watched those, so I know what you're talking about. Jebus Conti, let us know you're ok!!
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When tomorrow I'll be seeing the Evil Dead Trlogy in the theater all at once.
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http://tinyurl.com/yz47pgk
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Few less cups dude. Obviously your fingers are shaking on the keyboard!
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...Firestorm-Keep the night oil burning. Whoever you are now.
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I sound like Norman Osborne when I do that. OK THEN!
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Gah. The 80th anniversary of his birth and I missed it. At least the Jalopnik folks did a nice bit - and it reads like it was written by a Peeber! I've had Sand Pebbles sitting here in Blu-ray that I still haven't got around to. Might pop it on in tribute... but there's also Two Lane Blacktop waiting for me. And all of that Lost. And I've still got work to do. Gah.
The Jalopnik bit, in case anyone is interested in Steve McQueen. Heh.
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Such an awe-inspiring movie, I sit there with a lump in the throat EVERY TIME the mothership descends in that climax. I have NEVER in my life wanted to be someone else as badly as I'd want to be one of those scientists, witnessing that first encounter.
There was a booklet given away with EMPIRE magazine in the UK back in the mid-90s called MOVIE HEAVEN. It was a bunch of essays about how movies emotionally connected with their viewers. The essay about a kid watching CLOSE ENCOUNTERS with his first ever date, and his crushing sense of nothing-in-common with his date who can't see why he's all misty-eyed and dumbstruck at that ending... well, I got that lump in the throat again.
CLOSE ENCOUNTERS is big-screen magnificence done RIGHT. I've never seen big-screen spectacle equal it again, ever. And that from a guy who's only ever seen it on TV. I'd give anything to see it on the big screen - especially on an outdoor screen with Devil's Tower in the background, as some lucky bastards got to see it a few years back... -
Unbelievable. Three EVIL DEAD movies back to back. Groovy!
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I know he doesn't need to be defended, but I'll do it anyway. He is my favorite director. With the exception of his very early stuff, LOLITA and SPARTACUS, every one of his movies moves me in some profound way. Here's my list: 2001 - I'm usually in tears by the end of this one. It's just such a grand, transcendent, elemental thing. If I had to show an alien civilization that we are worth saving, this would be the one. BARRY LYNDON - and yet, despite my near-religious reverence for 2001, sometimes I consider this one my favorite Kubrick work. It's "chilly," it's "distant." No, it's unyielding and brutally honest about humans. It wrecks me. PATHS OF GLORY A CLOCKWORK ORANGE DR. STRANGELOVE THE SHINING FULL METAL JACKET EYES WIDE SHUT THE KILLING LOLITA KILLER'S KISS SPARTACUS To me, every one on the list is a masterpiece in its own way until LOLITA.
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If I had to show an alien civilization cinematic proof that we are worth saving, this would be the one.
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Clearly this is an example of to each their own because I think GOODFELLAS is a movie that's made to be rewatched. In fact, I think I've watched watched GOODFELLAS more than I have any other movie, with the exception of JAWS and THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS.
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It may be Spielberg's most honest film.
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I haven't even seen it on a big screen. Yet. It's one of my life's goals.
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http://tinyurl.com/y9bkyb6 When will Germans ever learn that meticulous record keeping when committing crimes against humanity is not a good idea?
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I missed a bunch.icant believe ess doesn't enjoy goodfellas.I dunno of I could rank Marty and Steven films..to be they are all good.all of them.
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When he was a tad naive..he's said hisself he wouldve changed the ending had he made it now.. lost world rules!
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Close Encounters is really great and every bit Jaws' equal in terms of perfect balance of sound/score and visuals.
I feel that Spielberg is at his best when telling very linear stories. He tells the hell out of a straightforward narrative but I feel he isn't quite as strong with more involved threads. That's not damning or anything, I generally love his stuff to bits and he's definitely one of the greats. I even liked what he pretty much directed in Star Wars Ep. 3! Although it did make him think only a few weeks of pre on Indy 4 was enough...
I have that groovy Last Exit to Nowhere Devil's Tower shirt. Love it. And all their others. I'm such a nerd. -
so jealous that you have a CEOT3K shirt...those shirts are so damned expensive...yet so cool...
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I think I'm going to get my fiancee the PorkChop Express one.
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See y'all in a bit.
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anyone have it near them?
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Mar 26, 2010 8:59:07 AM CDT
morries wigs in that hideous shit brown is classic too!
by six demon bag
so many to choose from...the slaughtered pig!
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I wanna defend Kubrick too. Everyone goes on and on about Kubrick being so "cold". He certainly wasn't as a person from what I can tell, and where his films are concerned I think he actually treats us like adults and doesn't coddle us with little pats to show us that it's O.K. if you were confused this is how we know this guy's a basically good person. My view is that we get all that stuff from a million other movies and hand in hand with Kubrick's "directed ambiguity" he likewise doesn't pander to us by having to add little consolations like most every other director & film. Hell, we know (well I would hope) not all people or even those characters in his flicks are like this ALL the time, but we are concentrating generally on intense moments about intense situations. Just because he shows human failings where others even that stuff out does NOT imply those characters never did the right thing or had fun in other situations. There are a million films where we can see that sort of thing. Why would he do that all over again? We get plenty of faux sentimentality elsewhere.
And I'm afraid I'm an unapologetic EWS defender. It's NOT about all their happy times. It's about human frailty and how uncomfortable that can be when the different meanings of intimacy come into play. Even Cruise being a doctor works on multiple levels. As does the "one note" thing. But hey, considering my previous comments further up on physical intimacy maybe I'm coming at this from a different place than others. As a lapsed Catholic (and remember Crazy Mel isn't a regular Catholic btw) I was annoyed about all the criticisms of Passion of the Christ being about just the harsh stuff. Maybe because I was used to the Catholic stations of the Cross, but hey, there are fucking HEAPS of films about J.C. and the lovey stuff. THIS film is about one specific part. As are many of Kubrick's films. My point is the "not the whole of their philosophy", to paraphrase. Sometimes I play devil's advocate for the sake of opening up other facets of an argument, but it doesn't mean that's the whole of or my only opinion on the matter.
I just feel Kubrick didn't see the need to be redundant. Now where all this dovetails with my last comment about Spielberg is that I like A.I. but still feel it's different and unbalanced compared to what we would have got if they'd done it together while SK was still alive. Spielberg is the best of the sentimental and showy guys, and when done with honesty like Close Encounters or E.T. it's very powerful and we love the blatant showmanship. He does many showy moves that say, "Hey I'm orchestrating this stuff and you know it" (see Indy rushing up under the chin shots for example) where the camera leads the action rather than follows it. But when the overall intent comes from a pure place we don't mind a bit. With Kubrick I think people get annoyed with stuff that sort of misses the point like in 2001 when they complain about not getting to see the aliens. It's about the PEOPLE and the journey, dummies! And even if you disagree with Clarke and Kubrick's idea of aliens being stranger than we CAN imagine & non-literal visual cyphers like the mathematically perfect featureless markers of the monoliths, you still can't criticise them for having a different view of it in that one film than your own. IMO.
I like that those guys come from very different places but still respected each other.
And oh boy Col. 2001 on a BIG screen is pretty spectacular. I've seen the proper 70mm restoration a couple of times in a grand Art Deco palace in Sydney and it's pretty awesome. Took my Mum & Dad to see it one time as a treat. Dad still loves it too and unlike the first time I saw it at the cinema as a 10 year old at least we could talk about the thing this time! But my Mum is such a "Mum". She walked out and said, "Well, it's different all right!". I replied in my best deadpan, "No, it's always been like that". -
Sorry Col. I writes slow-like.
Hey Sixies!
Paper Street Soap Company one is cool too. And the Mad Max one. I'm going to wear that one when I next see a certain director (he'll dig it and he'll know I'm not being a sycophant). The Blade Runner & Alien ones... gah! I've got Dapper Dan too, and Outpost 31. -
Sorry, that was in reference to Spielberg & Kubrick.
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...THE ILLUSIONIST looks very good too.
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March 25th, 2010 ...Let this be a lesson to all of us. Never e-mail Cheeses' Daughter, because her Dad's just gonna put the whole thing on the internet. ...Confusion regarding the basis for DIE-HARD: vanilla had heard that the studio developed the movie as a substitute for a sequel to COMMANDO, but Sixies and spud point out that the film is based on a book. ..."Republicans turned off by size of Obama's package" (http://tinyurl.com/yflllgk) ...Sixies is the first to ask The Pebrews if they think the New York Times reporter doing a piece on internet nastiness should be contacted and told about The Pedalback. Sixies is the first to be advised against it. ...Everybody lists the celebrities they would DO or NOT DO, if the world, and their spouses, allowed such doings. Turns out, Mary Steenburgen's not such an odd choice. I spend much of the morning Googling fellow Pebrews' choices so I can connect a name to a face. Flick thinks it'd be hot to get his dick crushed by Serena William's mannish thighs, and I can understand that because I once wanted to be smashed into a gooey man-puddle by Grace Jones. Nathan Fillion gets some props from both the sexes. The men get extra engorged at the thought of women their women might take a crack at. ...Edwige Fenech! 70s-80s Italian comedy sex goddess (http://tinyurl.com/h8z2m) ...Colon-El vouches for the identity of that New York Times reporter. ...BAMF! to Node #44355 ...70,105th ...Sixies instructs, "mother-tucking bitches leave" @ 11:32:35 A.M. ...SCOTT PILGRIM trailer is comic-book/teen romance-parody goodness? (http://bit.ly/aPR7dO) ...What if Brad Bird (THE IRON GIANT, THE INVINCIBLES, 1906) directed the Superman re-boot? ...TUCKER & DAVE VS. EVIL trailer is slasher-pic-parody goodness! (http://tinyurl.com/yazvh8d) ...SUCK trailer is rock-n-roll-vampire-midnight-cult-movie goodness (http://tinyurl.com/ya2w7lz) ...LE DONK & SCOR-ZAY-ZEE trailer is "Spinal Tap"ish-heavy accent goodness? (http://tinyurl.com/yd9flt3) ...FOUR LIONS trailer is terrorist comedy goodness (http://tinyurl.com/yezlppj) ...Stabby wants to contact that Times reporter. For the third time, the matter gets a discussion, and the majority of Pebrews advise against it. There's a vote for no reason, and Stabs decides to e-mail her. ...House GOP leader, Eric Cantor, pretends a stray bullet was an intentional act against him, so that he can get on FOX News and pretend Republicans are also the targets of enraged-voter violence. (http://tinyurl.com/yf2uzoy) ...Yack clears a blockage. ...diarrhea returns and tells an awesome poem! ...The Pedalback Book Club™ does not read junk books: James Joyce, Bertrand Russell, Lev Grossman and "Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell" ...Glenn Beck says something stupid. ...6th Pedalback SimuPo® @ 04:29:04 P.M. between Flick and myself ...AVP Is For Pooh (http://tinyurl.com/yhmjwp7) ...Hogwarts Castle burns. (http://tinyurl.com/yd6xb57) ...The many reasons to learn to speak Na'Vi ...Awesome Trailer Day gets a whole lot more awesome. KUKY RETURNS trailer is Czech stop-motion puppet awesome! (http://tinyurl.com/y9u6whs). THE ILLUSIONIST trailer is animated awesome! (http://tinyurl.com/ydyzou4) ...Yack puts the Rosetta Stone® spokesgirl on his To-DO list. (http://tinyurl.com/lvxnr7) ...Guppy shares some "Deep Thoughts." ...Former Dubbya speech-writer, David Frum, is fired by a Conservative Un-think Tank, days after criticizing The Republicans' "pouty-two-year-old" mentality. (http://tinyurl.com/yffm4oa). ...Pebrews recommend BLACK DYNAMITE. ..."Oel ngati kameie," means, "I see you," in Na'Vi, but if you say it with a slight inflection it means, "your loincloth is askew and your prick is small, I laugh at you many times," according to Flick. ...Flick wants to learn to speak Na'Vi so he can say, "Lick my braid, motherfucker," and Ess accents the "motherfucker." ...Yack admits to flunking Na'Vi class, because he was only in it for the tail. ...'moose already knows how to speak Na'Vi. He uses a translator and a dictionary. (http://tinyurl.com/yjxldhk), (http://tinyurl.com/y9rpfm7) ...California could pay for a chunk of its deficit by legalizing pot. (http://tinyurl.com/yarlblw) ...Pebrews rank Scorsese, and the discussion turns to varied opinions regarding the director, as well as Stanley Kubrick and Steven Spielberg. ...Twin sons of different mothers?: 'moose compares the video game "No More Heroes" (http://tinyurl.com/yj87k5v) to the SCOTT PILGRIM trailer. ...'Shooped posters for Romantic-Horror-Comedy mash-ups. (http://tinyurl.com/yzl6nj3) ...Vades has had a bad week and wants to get drunk and laid. ...Sexy nerd girl with a hat made out of books (http://tinyurl.com/yeyxbfh) ...THE THING, redubbed (http://tinyurl.com/yk4rynf) ...Yack wants to learn to speak Na'Vi so he can flirt with a Japanese Maple tree and possibly seduce it out of its school-girl panties. ...A cat peeps my naked junk. (http://tinyurl.com/yasjjhd) ...Scary's 20 favorite movies (http://tinyurl.com/yba742o) ...DUN-DUN-DUNNNN!!!! -
That's the first I've heard of anything, White Vades? Curiouser and curiouser...
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Yeah, pretty long, considering there was a long stretch of the day where nothing was going on in here. The morning and the evening sure made up for it.
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Treat him extra special when he shows up today.
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his story makes sense...they optioned the book to be a sequel and then changed it when arnold said nein!
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i even had the courtesy to wipe off the slag before coming back...lesson learned.
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vanilla knows what he's talking about.
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stuff that happens outside of The Pedalback stays outside of The Pedalback. Besides, I only went to The Meanback to retrieve diarrhea. I didn't pay any attention to what you guys were doing over there. I never even read Flick's joke.
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Thanks for the subbaries dude, they've been gettin' me through while I've been away!
And does no-ne remember Brad Bird co-wrote Batteries not Included?! And the Giant's line "Su-per-man..." still makes me a bit wobbly. Even more of an achievement when you realise fucking Vin Diesel delivered that line!
Hey Flick, yeah one of my fave sites is Cartoon Brew, and they've had Kuky and Illusionist stuff there. Kuky eh? Those crazy slavs (I'm Polish on one side and Irish on the other so basically all the jokes are on me)! I love Svankmajer's Faust, with the stop-mo & creepy-arse full-scale wooden marionettes & sped-up motion. Shiver. Kuki looks like some weird-arse combo of Michel Gondry's Human Behaviour mixed with some Spike Jonze and Domo Kun. With a whole lotta Slavic on top. And a guest appearance by a Pikmin! Can't wait to se it! Great use of digital wire removal.
Illusionist looks amazing and I've said in previous PBs how I loved (nearly all of) Triplettes. I'm a Tati fan too, and I didn't realise it was going to be such a love letter to him. And apparently it being set in Scotland really works and likewise apparently the mostly Scottish animators did a great job. The M. Hulot moment with the curtain coming down on him is fantastic.
Speaking of animation and trains (bet you've never heard that segue before), have you seen Madame Tutli-Putli? Doesn't really work in the end (pretty big rip on the sublime "Bunny" by Blue Sky which is the most poetic film about - oops, almost spoiled it!) but the painstakingly perfect comping of live-action eyes onto stop motion characters is unbelievably effective. You'd probably get a kick out of it. -
...at first I didn't mention her on purpose...I figured she's a given, and I've gone on about her at length in the past...
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Dreamwork's is trying to do with theaters? From Ebert's website:
"[HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON] is being shown in both 3-D and 2-D. The 3-D adds nothing but the opportunity to pay more to see a distracting and unnecessary additional dimension. Paramount has threatened theaters that if they don't clear screens for DRAGON despite the current glut of 3-D films, the studio won't let them show it in 2-D. This displays real confidence in 3-D." -
...Lollobrigida, I probably would have forgotten her.
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Mar 26, 2010 10:33:12 AM CDT
...a used to have a bunch of friends working at Blue Sky...
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...I've lost touch, so don't know if they're there anymore...I know several have moved on...looking up Madame Tutli-Putli right now. It sounds very familiar...I have a terrible memory for titles...
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definitely. I need a movie after this week. Someday, my dh and I will be able to go TOGETHER again... someday...
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you excluded Bellucci from your list due to the post-traumatic stress that has resulted from having her lookalike's long finger-nails on your soft bits when you were a lad.
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http://tinyurl.com/ydxms2p
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Amen, brother. Amen.
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Is your DH a bit of a stick-in-the-mud? ☺
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...so much so that I'm going to wait and watch it tonight, in the dark as intended.
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I fall into the "Usual Female Reaction" category on that one. I don't think it's hard to understand: after, what, 15 minutes of gang rape scenes, his rehabilitation- or anything they do to him- kinda stops being interesting to most women. I can see why it's a movie to study... but I'm still kind of uncomfortable with that level of sexual violence on a movie screen. I think my thing with Kubrick is, while I appreciate his work, in the last few years especially, my free time is at such a premium that I want a movie to take me somewhere NOT dark. I need a mini vacation... and while it doesn't have to be rom-coms and action, dark psychological pieces generally won't be what I want to see. Reading this, I think this post makes me sound shallow... I don't think I am, but then who does? So maybe I am. But I look for a certain amount of entertainment in my viewing choices in a way I didn't when, say, I was a college kid with lots of time and WAY fewer problems.
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is that there's a big fight and they're dirty about only having a week or two to themselves (3d-wise) before Clash of the Titans comes in and obliterates them (that's not a judgement of quality, just of likely box-office), so Dreamworks is pulling whatever they can.
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Mar 26, 2010 10:46:42 AM CDT
...I love all Eastern European stop motion, illustration...
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...design, etc...
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Mar 26, 2010 10:47:31 AM CDT
Maybe you and Flick could switch toddlers for a day, Ess.
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ToddleraPoo is brilliant and would be a joy to take to the theater, says the guy who has never wrestled with a toddler at a theater in his life!☺
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Titans WILL squash their little animated flick like a worm.
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"Get your ALICEs and your [deleted]s off the screens now, because it's our turn to suck the double-price admission teat!"The future of cinema is going to be a capitalist bloodbath!
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I've become a lot more patient with "mini-vacation" movies as I've gotten older and my bills and responsibilities have grown. However, I savor the darker, more contemplative stuff more than I ever have, mostly because as I've gotten older I've become more aware that I'm walking a tightrope amid a black abyss of despair. My fiancee doesn't really care for a lot of that stuff, though, so I need to carve out time for it. This is why I plan on spending a good chunk of my vacation next week watching "difficult" movies. Maybe all that will change when I have a kid. I dunno. I doubt it, though.
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Family flicks, if they're popular, often out-do shiny-boy fantasy flicks. Personally, I think CLASH will have the shelf-life of HELLBOY and THE INCREDIBLE HULK.
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for their 20 Fave Movies of All-Time.Those of us who were around during Listmania '09 already did this, but you noobs should post yours. I promise to Archive them at The Shelter as soon as I get a minute.
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Oh I getcha about Clockwork Orange. And I understand about your time. We've drifted into watching more lighthearted fare together as we're both so knackered by 9 when the kids are in bed she especially doesn't want something really heavy. I understand completely. My only thing is we're pretty eye-to-eye on most things and I like to watch things with her. This Criterion collection doesn't watch itself, you know!
That, and I generally have to get back to work when she goes to bed too. Or there's that whole incompatibility thing I talked about a bit earlier with D. Vades.
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My top 20, eh? Hmmm ... I need to contemplate.
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You sure you wanna go through with this, Colon-El?I only date women who will watch the same movies I wanna watch. I let her have the TV.
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Oh I don't think it should be an automatic assumption at all. But you can see why the suits and marketing might and aren't taking any chances.
I know Dragon is getting good reviews so far, and the very Chris Sanders Stitch/Dragon looks sorta cool, but just from the trailers, Jay Baruchel's voice comes off as really really wrong and about 15 years too old for the character. We'll see I guess! -
At least you recognized their names.I had a couple of college room-mates whose surnames I've completely forgotten.
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Don't get me wrong. She watches some of the "challenging" fare I want to, and she ends up even loving some of it. THERE WILL BE BLOOD, for instance. But I know what kind of "good" movies she'll like, so I suggest things along those lines. It's fine, really. And frankly I don't know if I would want to watch SALO with anyone.
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It's that she's really too young to take to the theater... and Dragons will be over her head. She's never sit still. I REFUSE to be one of those parents who lets their kids be loud and obnoxious in the theater, FOR ANY REASON. Not acceptable. Her being too young is a problem easily solved: we don't take her yet. Besides, I don't think Dragon is how I want to cut her teeth, theater-experience wise.
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including movies, tv and music. Probably why we were best mates before we hooked up,as the kids like to say.
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Just one of those things.
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Maybe next weekend I'll see it but in 2d..ess--yeah I have that prob too..my wife and I can't go to films together..but our boy is growing up so I think his first will be toy story 3
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There were some idiot parents who brought some 10 and under kids to see FRIDAY THE 13TH when we went to see it last year.
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Box Office is simply a re-iteration of the marketing campaign. If a movie is pre-sold properly - IE: if one of the big companies spends millions and millions telling the unwashed how stultifyingly awesome it will be - it'll just be that way. The distributors fall in line first, the "journalists" copy the press releases into their magazines, second, and, then, the unwashed mass joins along like brain-dead zombies.It's why my relationship with the movies is such a love/hate dysfunction.
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...of what we want to watch.That's about perfect, because 15% stuff you're not particularly interested in is hardly a burden, and half the time I enjoy it and end up liking something I never would have seen on my own.
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http://tinyurl.com/yefy5f8
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...out of providing crowd pleasers, especially when I push my luck and pick an unlikely winner.
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How insane is that?
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Teabaggers have the guns, the heavy utility vehicles and kilotons of ideological rage. They have the makings of a very frightening guerrilla force.
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Mar 26, 2010 11:15:13 AM CDT
The whole thing makes me re-think my entire understanding
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of American nature.Bear with me.I used to be one of those who scoffed at all the people who bemoaned the effect of this song or that video game on peoples' behavior. I used to think it was silly to think people would actually be manipulated by their choice of entertainment media. I mean, people have thier own minds, don't they? And factual information will certainly influence the emotional knee-jerkery of a thinking, breathing human being, no? I would've argued that to the end!Then along comes FOX FACKING News, and the idiots start driving their cars into people based on their bumper sticker.Are you sure I can't start clamping down on some of these air-breathers right to walk around in public, Ess?
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I'll watch for them.
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I would NEVER take off a bumper sticker out of fear... Shit, that makes me want to get one for my new car. That dipshit is going to pay for the damage he caused, and how... FUCK THAT. I am getting REALLY motherfucking tired of all the violence these right-wing fucktards are perpetrating. HOW CAN THIS BE JUSTIFIED?!?!?! It is ludicrous. The GOP and their mindless followers are behaving like toddlers. NO, I take that back... my 2.5 year old is more mature. Unbelievable.
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Don't worry Ted. I survived the night.
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Mar 26, 2010 11:18:53 AM CDT
...Subs, I'm sure you know this, but art has always been...
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...a business. I love ancient art, but that stuff was the ultimate assembly line group project, and look to Renaissance Italy if you want to see some truly draconian and cutthroat business practices.
And Dutch painters of the 16th, and 17th century were as cold eyed as businessmen get.
The whole romantic Art For Art's Sake notion was mostly invented by relatively well off gentlemen artists in the 1800s.
I love the idea of pure art...just noodling away at something the way you did when you were a kid. Sadly, not only does the opportunity not arise very often, but good work doesn't very often happen that way. Most art would never see the light of day without a deadline of some sort...either because of a signed contract, the necessity of a paycheck, the pressures of the marketplace...whatever... -
Self-defense is allowed by law. I'm actually considering breaking my one-bumper-sticker-per-vehicle choice. My current sticker reads "Real Men Drink Rosé"... but I may need to order me a new Obama sticker.
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you stupid, stupid Republican fuck! Thank GAWD they got him, and he'll go to prison.Do me a favor "media," spend half as much time hyping that trial as Phil Spector's or OJ Simpson's.
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It was more out of concern for the others who may be in the car with me. Not to mention the out-of-pocket cost that would come with a particularly destructive act of vandalism when I'm not around. I weighed the pros and cons, and it just didn't seem worth it. Shit, I live in a very liberal area, too, but I don't want to take any chances when I visit my parents in shit-kicker country.
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I love that movie, but I understand exactly what you are saying. I have seen it twice in theaters with girlfriends.
One girl loved the movie and has always been a fan, but the experience was horrible because of the reaction from the geekboys, laughing all the way through the movie.
The second time I saw it with a girl that later I found out had been a victim of a sexual assault.
I cannot fault anyone for not liking that movie. I can bring up reasons why it works for me and why I think the excessive violence and rape is necessary, but the fact it is in there cannot be denied. -
After my ODing on coffee last night I am back this morning and already on my second cup.
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I don't like fighting, normally, and I think violence is often the easy way out, but I'd gladly pop one of these motherfuckers if they dared pull any of this shit on me or a loved one. Hell, I already told future Mrs. Fatheart that if the shit really goes down and the christo-fascists take over she should prepare to join the fucking resistance.
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Fuck this and fuck them. I'm not seeing another 3D film until it was specifically made that way like AVATAR. I'm certainly not going to pay for what sounds like a bad 3D conversion process like "Clash of the Titans" will be. http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/03/is_the_movie_theater_price-hik.html http://tinyurl.com/yc4995j I'm boycotting and I hop everyone else does too. I won't play into their hand.
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on my face. Chicks dig scars. I hate damage to my car, though. Hate it.
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Art exists as expression and the need to communicate. Business has been made of art, because, well, business has been made of everything. Always. Art is totally dependent on the intent of the artist and the involvement of the audience. Business doesn't dictate the quality of art. Nor does the success of artless product indicate a triumph of commerce over communication, any more than popularity indicates the quality of art.
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Ozone is a mystery wrapped in a riddle. He is a tough guy who is also sensitive AND a good dancer. The guy on crutches break dancing is crazy. Only someone with dead legs could make em spin like that! A perfect companion to Black Dynamite. Also awesome in a completely different way.
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very few movies, TV shows, songs, etc., are art. It's mostly product.And yet, even now, artists still yearn to make art.
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Mar 26, 2010 11:32:11 AM CDT
...I'm with you D, mostly just for selfish aesthetic reasons...
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...as you say, [deleted] was shot in 3-D, and it shows. I had no interest in 3-D before [deleted]...it ended up winning me over completely, but I have no desire to see anything less.
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Probably won't be, though, because as a "political" act it can't be determined to be racially-based or gender-based.
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i will see EVERY film in 3D and if the films i want to see arent in 3D..i will pay for a 3D movie ticket and sneak into the 2D film...i will also will leave my wallet at the concession stand after ordering a week old hot dog and large coke, extra extra ice!
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to be art, anyway, though. Val Lewton's movies, for instance. Or JAWS.
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Mar 26, 2010 11:35:37 AM CDT
Why make the distinction between [deleted] and other 3D?
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There is no reason you should have to pay extra for either one. The extra admission has been forced upon you. It isn't based on a cost to the film-makers. It isn't even justifiable based on the theaters having to upgrade equipment. It's a false cost.Paying for [deleted] only encourages the unfair ticket pricing.
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Then they take the piss out of the devil.Then they fuck it all up.
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The ads all suck, I'm sick of rock songs going along with Dreamworks' animated features, and the font/title just looks old and stale. Basically, it looks like every other Dreamworks animated feature in those two ways. The only interesting things to me are the varied designs for the dragons. That's cool to me. But its not a movie I'm dying to see and thus don't feel the need to spend even more money on the 3D, more money than I spent last week on Alice. Really, until its something akin to Spielberg's Jurassic Park, I'm not going to blow more money on 3D this year. They're going to try and shove it down our throats and force us to watch films that way, and I will stills tand defiant and say no. Its the same way with Blu-Ray players. Studios are now putting out DVDs with no extras- if you want the bonus features, you have to ante up for Blu Ray. Well fuck that, I just won't buy either.
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Art exist as a means of expression, but people become artist not just to communicate. They become artist because of the status it gives them. Why do people flock to the most successful trends or biggest mediums? Because that is where the power and status lies.
Being an artist has always been a commercial venture. It is a skill someone develops to make himself more important and get laid. The caveman who painted buffaloes and hunters on the cave did so because it gave him status and they would feed him for his talent.
Same with the kings and rulers and patrons of artist through the century who would pay them if they immortalize them; or the minstrels who would travel from court to court, receiving payment for their songs and a chance to sleep with the ladies of the court. Artistry has always been a profession, something to get paid and fed for, and maybe some women in the process. -
..if you've got any yarbels."My favorite line in the movie. That brawl is great.
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whos to say you cant HATE someone cause of their political upbringing...which is racially skewed if you think about it..these cowards are hiding behind the "im creating an open forum to discuss POLITICS, not HATEMONGERING!" and are getting away with it..its time to live like the israelis..eye for an eye motherfucker!
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AVATAR was made specifically for 3D with a lot of attention paid to the technical and artistic aspects of it. Clash of the Titans is just a movie they slapped some 3D filter over. There's a big difference in both the approach and result.
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the thieving magpie is great for that scene!
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rationalizations to prehistoric cavemen!I hope Bruce Wayne straightens this all out while he's living back in those times.
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Titans? Not so much. Frankly, the old argument rears its ugly head... the same argument I had with [deleted]. If a movie can't stand on its own without the gimmick of 3-D, does it deserve to exist? Although, we ARE talking about the multi-million dollar remake of one of the most craptastic movies of all time... so maybe this argument should NOT, in fact, apply to Titans. After all, am I REALLY expecting more depth from this script than from [deleted]? I think, in the end, it comes down to vision. Cameron- for all his faults- had it, and put his ass on the line, and delivered a spectacle... and reinvented 3-D technology in the process. The Titans people just took that and jumped on the bandwagon, which I have considerably less respect for. Add on top of that inflated prices for tickets, and you have a distinctly non-plussed customer here.
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..with their DANCING!It's blowing my mind!
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theres a diff between making a film specifically for 3D all the while creating new technology to usher in this format..and the slackass conversion process in the bottom of the 9th inning..big difference.
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...as someone who supposedly makes a living in the arts, I take a more complicated evolutionary psychology view of art.
Sure, it's about communication, but it's also about status, your place in the tribe, survival, etc...
Art starts off as play and daydream...only later (if anyone shows any interest in your private dreams) does it become about communication.
Once it becomes about communication, it immediately becomes about status and position in the social group...another way of succeeding and getting attention.
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My buddy and I loved it. It was hilarious. Like a Bugs Bunny cartoon with rape and ultraviolence. Oh how hip and cool we were! Now I watch it, and I'm shaken to the core. Disturbed and moved. Now I love it for what I believe are the right reasons.
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between your perception of the 3D. Granted. But, it doesn't speak to the issue of the admission price. There is no reason we paid double to see [deleted] other than businessmen determined we would.We don't pay more in anticipation of a movie we will like or less for one we might not.
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i will be for the family of 5 behind me too..unless theyre black.
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my daughter wanted me to draw with her. For the record, I'm no artist. So we sat down and I told her that when I was in school me and my friends would draw spaceships. We'd draw cut away views, so you could see the cockpit, where the crew slept and ate, a hangar bay for smaller ships, engine room, etc. So I started drawing my cut away view of my ship. She was so amazed and loved it. So she started drawing her own ship. We were watching "The Office" and at a commercial she came up to me and my wife and showed her ship. The whole page was filled with stuff. A place for the President to sit. A place for eating. She just went crazy with it. I thought it was so cute how kids can get wrapped up in a project. I have to admit, it took me back to my youth drawing..it was fun.
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Man is just an animal. All are motivations are based on some sort of evolutionary reasoning.
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Why are they doing what they are doing?They should've spent all that time playing football, if they really wanted prestige.
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Mar 26, 2010 11:43:06 AM CDT
I'll take FAST FORWARD over BREAKIN', thank you very much.
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What a truly delightful horrible movie.
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And your story elucidates my point. All children begin as artists and dreamers.Business turns them into adults.
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I paid an extra 3 bucks. And I was happy to do it for the ride. There IS a reason why it costs extra, Subs. It does cost the studio more money for the process. Regardless, it sounds like you got screwed if you paid double.
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I paid $2 more. I'm with Vades, though. I'm not seeing another movie in 3D unless it was made that way or somehow the retro 3Ding tech makes it as good as the CamTech 3D.
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simultaneously condemning your apparent racism. HA!
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...most of all, I think.
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the simple fact remains that artists need to eat. And, most of them want more than that... because having money is nice, and not having it, quite simply, is a royal pain in the ass. Speaking as a failed artist- and by that, I specifically mean failed COMMERCIALLY- I feel this sharply. I couldn't make it work. I struggled for some years in the name of "staying true to myself as an artist" but after making $7 an hour at thankless bullshit jobs- which is largely what you get when you don't care about your employment and are focusing the best part of yourself elsewhere (i.e., your art)- I realized that I could own my art, or let it own me. Literally. And, in return, I would never own anything: no house, no car, etc. I used to feel like a schmuck about my decision to move on professionally, until I realized: LOTS of talented people don't make it. IT ISN'T ALWAYS about the talent. Granted, I'm no Shaun Tan... but I DO have talent. If it were just about talent, it wouldn't be so hard to make it as an artist... and it IS hard. Which makes success all the more rewarding. Some days I think, I should spend more time drawing, keeping my skills up, and LESS time watching movies and... well, being here. Sometimes, I think that.
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Rad was the only other movie (other than Breakin) that had an influence on my "style" as a kid. Breakin' is a damaging film for a young man. As a 10 year old how are you supposed to be able to separate the coolness of parachute pants and the gayness of a half shirt.
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but they'd sure as shit love to. Most football players, for that matter, don't make any money.
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Cost of doing business. JAWS cost more than THE EXORCIST. THE PHANTOM MENACE cost more than ALIENS. Aside from the increase due to inflation, you didn't pay because the studio spent more on making the movie.I was charged $16 for a 3D screening of [deleted]. Any screening of any other movie at that time would've cost $9. So, I'm off a dollar.
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First off, very few artist are athletically gifted. That is why they don't try out for sports or be football stars (and even then, very few football players make it).
Secondly, artist try to restructure the pecking order/social ladder all the time. They try to make the traits they possess to be sexy/desirable/or enviable. Woody Allen for example.
Or even better yet the ancient Roman poet Horace, who satirized the Roman ruling class and put down the cursus honororum, the system of social advancing. He mocked the upper classes desire for advancing and ambition and said truly noble people spent time thinking and contemplating in rural villas. Great concept.
Except that the cursus honororum had been a huge success for Rome because it causes the nobility and upper class to spend money improving the city and sacrificing themselves in efforts to improve the city. They were expected to do military service, charity, and build bridges and libraries and put on games for the masses. But Horace was born from a slave so he could never partake in it, so what better way to improve his stock in the pecking order than change the entire perspective of what is important and higher status.
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..."As a 10 year old how are you supposed to be able to separate the coolness of parachute pants and the gayness of a half shirt."
So, so true...
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Fuck. THERE. And I want to be a write. Ugh.
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So, I'm off $4. $14 vs. $9 is still a $5 difference. I usually spend $5 for a matinee.
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It costs more for the 3D. You say that's just the cost of business they should have to eat up. I say they can make more money by charging more for the experience, and audiences have shown they are willing to do it. I am willing to do it, but only depending on the movie. We'll see if the business model backfires on them in the long run, once studios start strong-arming theaters to only show 3D, or when theaters start price-gouging. But that's the way it works I suppose. And Subs, you're off 2 dollars.
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she truly enjoys to do, and not because something "pays a lot".
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Mar 26, 2010 11:55:43 AM CDT
...too much good shit here today. PB is a full-time job...
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...this morning.
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Mar 26, 2010 11:55:46 AM CDT
Sorry to interrupt the art and Kubrik with Rad and Breakin
by macready452
I'm such a dick.
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Bad week to quit sniffing glue.
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at the same time. Wait.We're now equating Horace's attempts at bringing down the Roman elite with creating a Krakken on a computer screen?Just so I know what's at issue here.
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...have to be very careful to not be a vampire about it...pushing her, looking over her shoulder...etc...I'mma try to thread the needle about it. Provide good materials and a good example...but let her evolve on her own.
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We couldn't afford parachute pants. I could however afford to cut a shirt in half. Looking back..prepubescent kids in the 80's must have been the most unintentionally gay people ever.
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Mar 26, 2010 12:00:48 PM CDT
I can't believe the dissing of Kubrick, Scorcese and Speilberg
by stabby
This is gonna have to go in my report. At least no one said anything bad about David Lynch. Then I'd have to roll some heads.
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And "double" was always an easy exaggeration. Paying any more for 3D of any kind is unnecessary, whether a lot of people will pay it or not.You've met me, right, Vades? The "what" that a lot of people are willing to do, doesn't influence me a slim "whatever."
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Mar 26, 2010 12:01:44 PM CDT
I think it's interesting you bring up Horace, actually...
by scarywaitress
...because it shows, really, how rare it is to achieve what you're talking about. You're still using an artist from several centuries ago to make your point... and he's one of VERY few who have survived through the ages. Our culture was built on a LOT more than the few dudes we can name. A LOT more. Small acts of decoration are a large part of our aesthetic now. THOSE people weren't trying to restructure society... they were trying to make a living, painting walls, designing togas, etc. Art has LONG been a business. Expecting it to ALWAYS transcend to be respected as art is part of the big difficulty in being an artist today, IMO.
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To change the social structure and move himself up on the social ladder.
The guys behind CLASS are putting up a Krakken to get people to pay for tickets and see their movie. Why? Because money and success equals social status.
Artist have always been part of the human desire to be important on the human pecking order and be higher on the social ladder. You can get there two ways: by making stuff the masses love and get rewarded, or make stuff that changes the context of WHAT is important and successful (Punk rock, Hippies and the Black is Beautiful Movement all did this - it challenged the concept of how we should determine who should be where on the Social Ladder and what are desirable traits/qualities). -
Mar 26, 2010 12:03:27 PM CDT
Stabby, there was no dissing. Just critical discourse.
by scarywaitress
Nothing to report on here... this IS what we do, after all... throw pebbles at the masters while scratching our armpits and jumping around...
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Too bad there wasn't a Krakken in it.
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...almost all children are good artists. Children's drawings are almost universally beautiful. I have a bunch of theories about this that I won't bore you with...
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Cru Jones recently made an appearance on Tosh.0 and it was hilarious.The movie is super 80's cheese and I don't think it is even on DVD right now.YouTube has a lot of it. http://tinyurl.com/29j8e2 Enjoy.
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half shirt and parachute pants. Thank god I was not cool enough for half shirts.
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...art that I love called THE UNKNOWN CRAFTSMAN. Very inspiring.
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They still give us regular folk the 2D option. Paying more for 3D is not mandatory for seeing a movie in the theater. Not yet. So I don't have the same problem with it that you seem to have. Hopefully the pple won't go along with this new round of bullshit (only 3D versions in theater and theaters upcharging by 20%) and 3D movies will start failing at the BO.
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I'm inclined to believe his motivation was to communicate and to persuade. I don't think he was in it for the money.His change in social status might have been a perk. But, any artist who is primarily motivated for a change in social status - be they Horace, John Lennon, or myself - is likely to be severely embittered unless they have the artistic capabilities of Horace and/or John Lennon. Art, and art-making, is separate from its perks and, even, the fickle popular consensus of art and artists.
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Fuck, I'm still thinking about hot/smart/do-able chicks!
Blanchette and Winslet, Naomi Campbell (just the gorgeous side of her), Julianne Moore and Thandie Newton (if she wasn't such a nightmare), Jennifer Connely before she became all scrawny, Grace Kelly, Michelle Yeoh, not a fan of Beyoncé but definitely a fan of her bod, Gong Li, Cyd Charisse, Dorothy Dandridge (take that, Halle!), Dita Von Teese and Bettie Page (hey, together even!), Zooey, Amy Adams, Isla Fisher and while I'm on a redhead roll, Hell, Jessica Rabbit and Francesca from Mad Monster Party (she made me feel a bit funny as a young kid). Oh and Queen Latifa. Geraldine Chaplin in Zhivago... Trying to think of mostly women and mostly actors that haven't been mentioned... at four in the morning. -
did you get your Encom ID badge? It's pretty cool.
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And the play sports and games for the same reason, When they get older they try to find out what they do that makes them important or gives them status.
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...no money for parachute pants...but I sure as shit owned a pair of scissors.
Actually, I did own one pair of parachute pants...I wore those fuckers until they were so tight I had ballsack cameltoe.
Too short, skin tight parachute pants sort of defeat the purpose...but I would leave no parachute pant behind! -
I tawt a taw a Dabby.
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I am way to distracted here at work to type.
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but I got some pants that sorta reminded me of parachute pants. They were grey with a red line down the side of each leg. They weren't even close to looking like parachute pants (except maybe for the gray) but I loved them and I loved the red lines down the side.
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Mar 26, 2010 12:16:06 PM CDT
Before I go I will all art is about changing the Social order
by continentalop
In the very least your own. No artist makes stuff without a desire for people to like it and praise him.
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I thought the term for that was "batwings."
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when it became cool to just tight roll regular pants instead of having to buy expensive parachute pants. Z Cavaricci's were just the gayest thing ever though.BTW any excuse to make fun of Z Cavaricci's is gold.
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What I posted here yesterday was exactly the email I sent her and the extent of it. I told her if she was interested she could let me know and she emailed me back saying that she was, but not saying specifically what she was interested in nor asking me any questions.
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It feels like the movie, but something new at the same time. I like it. Episode 5 is coming up on Tuesday. You can catch them all on Hulu.
hulu.com/parenthood
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http://tinyurl.com/y8vu8uf
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Mar 26, 2010 12:28:19 PM CDT
Fred is sneaking a web peak, and wanted to say hi
by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar
Fred does not think all artists create work to be appreciated by others- Fred has read Thomas Pynchon's -Gravity's rainbow - and Fred knows for a fact that Pynchon only wrote that impenetrable door stopper for himself and no one else!
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...that I loved with all my soul.
I inherited it from a cool older kid on my street, was purple with green sleeves (that 70s design with the seam going from armpit to clavicle)...V-neck, cadmium yellow elastic sleeve-bands, Adidas style shoulder stripes, and a HUGE yellow collar bordering on a small cape.
I wore that thing till it rotted off my body. -
Taffy is probably being PULLED in many directions by all the talkbackers. YOU SEE WHAT I DID THERE???
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I watch so much stuff i'm not sure i'll get to it though.
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I do that too but it means something very different.
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Mar 26, 2010 12:30:46 PM CDT
I've read that "impenetrable door stopper" twice, Fred.
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I love it!
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...that was some Premium Pedalbacking right there.
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i'm off to work. thanks for sinking to my level Flick and Colon_El. Back to ruin everything after the commute.
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...I was dirt poor, in art school, and working summers on a hay farm...I was beyond authentic. My jeans were honestly trashed, but Redwings had 300,000 miles on them, my flannel smelled like alfalfa grass, I was dark tan, and made of cable-wire.
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At the risk of an instant BAMPF, I did tell her we were currently hanging out in this node and to check it out if she was interested.
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ColonelFatheart - Fred is in awe of you!
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that Asimov_Lives and his epic battles vs. STINO are somehow included in it.
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Thanks again for the email.
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on being more expensive to make movies that way? Sure the conversion generally adds 20% but generally the cost is still fairly analogous to other 2d flicks. [Deleted] didn't cost squillions more than Superman Lifts Things, for example. It didn't even cost outrageously more than his own Titanic! Sure the studios will try to write some of that production stuff off if they think they can get away with it, but the MAIN reason in my opinion is that the studios & theatres are getting US to pay for their refitting of theatres/cinemas with 3d/digital projectors (and sneakily the regular 2d digi ones too). Remember all the bellyaching that went on at the start of digital from the theatre owners association? And how strangely in the last year 3d/stereoscopic cinemas have exploded in number? WE are paying for it. Hell, I reckon they were sneaky bastards for HOW many years by not asking to return/recycle the glasses. Because, y'know, then they can charge the extra few bucks when the glasses on cost a matter of cents. It's like the 5 bucks more con for a "digital copy" disc when the same fucking thing can be acheived with a link on the original disc to a secure site through email etc. Con con con.
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against your boy Roethlesberger?
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From 9th grade until my sophomore year in college during the summer.
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Flick. Stuff like that needs to be preserved like how they do the declaration of independence. But since it rotted off your body, there's nothing left to admire!
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...because you're our muse...the brick wall to our tennis ball.
Subs, you are the only brick wall for my balls. -
You got more mail this morning.
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Not like "heh heh I am an asshole fun" but fun because it is nice to debate someone who can make an intelligent counter argument who's opinion you respect.
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Mar 26, 2010 12:44:58 PM CDT
TN Man Rams Car Carrying Child Due to Obama Bumpersticker
by anonymoose
http://tinyurl.com/yhe4e9x
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Damn you Stabby, I just realised when you went against the Peebers' wishes and did it anyway, I posted about having a 2 1/2 year dry spell to make D.V. feel better about his. If she uses last noght's shit it'll be all "nerds getting no sex". Aah!
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That was scary, beautiful stuff.
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2D theaters. I haven't any desire to see 3D movie, especially since they cost more. But my main reason is that I have no desire to see 3D. How can you be fully immersed in the movie if when looking through the 3d glasses, you still see around the edges the movie theater itself? Granted 3D is coming from the screen, but everything around the screen is normal.
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Con con con connity con-con.
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as a kid!
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With me? That NEVER happens!
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It's like one of those magic eye books. If I look long enough, will I see something pop up?
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But I can't promise no more Vetoes or Executive Orders. After all, what's the fun of being a Republican without those.
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I don't argue. That is pointless.
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...the farm I worked at specialized in hay for competition horses, U.S. Equestrian team etc...
That makes it sound fancy, but it wasn't. We did everything by hand and with rickety old conveyors. Our best summer we made close to 90,000 bales...and of course between baling, stacking, pulling it out of the barn again, stacking it on the truck, delivering it, and stacking it again at the delivery sight...each bale is thrown at least four times...
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I did notice you the other day making a huge generalisation about Graphic Designers. I realise you were just trying to compliment Flick, but I call that "shitting on one to shine the other". If you're in the game you'll know that illustrators as a group are exactly the same as designers in terms of creative myopia and stealing. I've done and do both, and they both have their strengths and weaknesses like anything. And there were some dodgy semantics about "influential" when maybe "ubiquitous" was the right word the other day too from (my didgy) memory.
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Stabby's converted to the dark side with The Republicans!DARK SIDED!
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Illustration & Graphic Design I mean. NOT Creative myopia and stealing! Fuck!!
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Free typing on the QT because people looking on Fred's Cub-e!
Fred, likes most 'burghers is sick of the continuing allegations of bad conduct that surrounds Ben and that threaten to tarnish the Steelers. Fred bleeds Black and Gold. But Fred, like most true Stillerz fans, is withholding final judgment until all information is known. Fred thinks that Big Ben can win back fans affection as long as he keeps winning games and keeps lil Ben in his pants! -
...to get them into a civil debate. You have to be a master baiter to master debate her.
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I get how the whole slogan t-shirt thing is sorta dorky, but one of my faves says, "I'm stabbing you with my mind". Now isn't that just passive-aggressive artist stuff? Heh. Just wanted to tell you I love Stabby shirts!
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I don't really think there's a god... but THAT woman makes me believe in Satan.
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...owned by some rich guys. And while they were rich, they paid us shit and we did everything by hand.
We would load hay up in their barns every weekend, just like you with the old rickety old conveyers. And you would either get the fresh hay which is wet and heavy or the old stuff which was a sharp as a knife and get all cut up.
I'm pretty big and was pretty strong back then so I used to be the one who would toss the bales up into the loft while this little wrestling buddy of mine would crawl around up there.
Between that and delivering beer (and lifting 4 times a week) I was pretty fucking ripped my senior year of high school. One of the guys had a really hot daughter and she used to ride when we were loading. Nothing every came about, but I could tell she was riding around to check us out (and I would like to think me specifically).
In closing, man I wish I had hit that...
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Yeah Madame T.P. looks amazing, but the story... did you watch Bunny though? I think that story's fantastic, in a bittersweet way.
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And mysterious... how intriguing.
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http://tinyurl.com/yj66pzg
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Sorry Dude. Did not mean to offend. I lived with a designer when I went to art school and he was a bastard so I kind of associate design with him. And I must admit having been a painter/fine artist there was a prejudice instilled in us towards commercial artists. Of course, jokes on us because you guys are the one's with jobs.
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The Big O is rollin' right now. I think the Rethugs are in for a rude awakening come November. They may make some gains, but they're coming nowhere near the majority.
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I actually preferred T.P., although I agree the moth was better used as a metaphor in BUNNY. The creepiness worked on me much more than the cuteness, I guess, because that is the way my bread is buttered. Also, the whole old bunny climbs into the (redacted) and (redacted) kind of stoked my inner "think of the children." If you know what I mean.
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did you get a lot of ticks when you worked on the ranches?
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The critters will be up in 2 or 3 hours. And I'm gettin' all loopy.
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is how the surveillance tape of the club mysteriously was erased before the cops finished watching it. Stabby thinks that it was no coincidence as some of Berger's friends accompanying him that night were cops.
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THANKS for the links!
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BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
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This revelation gives new meaning to Ain'tItBaleNews.
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Time for shopping, diaper change, making myself presentable, and all that shizzle. Catch you all in a bit... I have more design work to do this afternoon/evening, so I'll be in front of this screen again later.
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Check your blood, buddy. Black, um, alright, depending on the rate of oxidation in your area. But gold? I don't think that's supposed to happen.And keep it on the QT, 'cause times is tuff and lots o' people might do some crazy things to get some gold.
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Tap Li'l Scary on the noggin for us.
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The GOP has an over-inflated sense of worth these days. As with those whose loincloths are askew, I laugh at them many times.
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Subs, I getcha. Yeah when you get the whole oven thing...
Stabs, oh no worries at all. There are plenty of bastards in both lots! But my boased take on all of the commercial stuff whether design or commercial illustration is that there's nothing wrong in this post-industrial revolution world with trying to bring art and aesthetic to everyday life. Why shouldn't things look appealing? As opposed to not?And in that particular way, the commercial guys are similar to the fine-art guys in feeling a need and inherent want to have art in the world.
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...we had a whole system.
On a bad day, you only had two guys, a wagon man and a stacker. On a good day you had a wagon man and a little crew inside, ideally a strong thrower at the end of the conveyor and several smaller stackers who could crawl into small spaces.
Most of my years there we had these two agile little stacker girls...and as thrower you tried to land the bales as close to the final location as possible and do some quick stacking when necessary...
...the heat, the sweat, the darkness of the barn, the dizzy smell of the hay, the physical exertion...you could cut the sexual tension with with a proverbial knife.
Those girls were badasses too. Every year we'd get some high-school jock determined to strut his stuff. The game was to get him to either quit or throw up...the farmer was so pissed that he could never keep any of the new recruits... -
I know everyone's seen this a million times, but watch it again. It's a masterpiece. A sickening document of the one of the ugliest traits of humanity.
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And, I'll even go further. All of this Tea-Bag nonsense will damage The Republicans and their mouth-piece FOX News. Particularly if it continues or - GAWD forbid - something really serious happens. That will galvanize the large, here-to-fore quiet group that will support Obama.See? I still have some of that die-hard optimism somewhere deep within.
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...very cool. I do a little of that on the side, but increasingly the distinction between fine and commercial seems blurred to me.
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You see, the GOPers are underestimating the pervasive antipathy toward incumbents. They don't think it applies to them. Boy, are they in for it. There'll be a healthy amount of turnover, but little change in the size of the Democratic majority.
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I've got some instinctive ugliness inside, too. I like to imagine that woman, a few years and several hundred pounds heavier, stuck in a six-by-six bedroom, eating Chee-tos, smelling of her own filth, and schreeching, uncomforted, about The Dark Side.
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I spent 3 years in art school as a painter before I dropped out and eventually went back to school and got my BFA in Film. But, I haven't painted in years. And most of the drawing I've done was for storyboards for my short films.
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and no one blurred the line between fine art and commercial art better than he.
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a buddy of mine has started a blog chronicling his nascent struggle to get his first novel published. He's looking for "followers" so he can boast of the numbers to agents/publishers. Take a look if you get a chance: http://tinyurl.com/y9lpwy2
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...I love ancient art, and ancient art was a mass-produced slave made factory product most of the time.
I went the opposite way, but have almost come full circle. I started out in computer animation, but fell in love with fine art and finally settled on illustration.
Ironically, now I have a chance to do a book of my own, and I need to tell the story almost 100% visually, so for the sake of illustration bordering on fine art I'm right back where I started trying to do storyboards.
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As much as I hate reality tv that is just damn good television!
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Mar 26, 2010 1:44:11 PM CDT
i don't think I've ever seen who they swapped her with.
by subtitles_off
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http://farewellhello.blogspot.com/
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who was really nice. The thing is, Dark Sided Lady's kids are actually well-behaved, nice and surprisingly sane. Must be the father's influence. As much as I relish in her insanity I do feel for her kids in that clip, especially the small ones.
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in the end. Typical.
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of such fear, like, "Oh Merciful Lord in Heaven, I Pray To Thee, Don't Let Momma, Sit On Me."
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Did you really mean this? God bless you. I feel the same way. He will always be Batman to me. Just as Caesar Romero will always be the Joker, as much as I loved Heath Ledger's performance. And Julie Newmar will always be Catwoman. Amen!
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...it makes me wonder too...she seems to be deliberately whipping herself up into a frenzy, and I've never heard the phrase "dark sided" before, even from my parent's most loony fundamentalist associates.
I suppose it might just be her own special brand of crazy...and the deliberate frenzy could be the excitement of all the attention and cameras and stuff.
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I can understand people not liking it because of the corniness and campiness, but really Adam West was portraying Batman of that era. And not only that, unlike all other actors who have played him, he is the only one to have played Batman as he is in the comic: a sensible, brave, intelligent, competent, adult man who takes care of business without whining or moping.
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with something like this. If that woman is acting then that is an academy award winning performance. She would clean up Mo'Nique with that. I agree that she is whipping herself up, but that is what people like that do.
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Conti finds the nobility in Adam West's Batman. That, sir, is commendable.
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West's straight reading of the character worked perfectly with the high camp. Don't think it would have worked otherwise. Kind of like Leslie Neilsen in Police Squad. Playing it straight against the absurd humor.
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He isn't a perfect Batman. But nobody is. But a least he "plays" Batman on the show, unlike all the other actors in the movie who are playing guys dressed up as Batman but not really Batman.
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...(well, not quite like THAT), and there always seems to be a big dose of self aggrandizing performance even with no cameras around.
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I can't hate on it. It's my childhood. The campiness was entirely over my head, then, and it seems charming to me now.I prefer the tone Burton took with Batman, but Adam West is still what I think of first.
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I wasn't ribbing you there. I'm really impressed, as a matter of fact.
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But it is a real thing. I know a Chemistry professor who works on creating it. I think Bruce Wayne is one of his funders.
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Corny as fuck, but I didn't care even when I watched it as a cynical early 90s lad of about 10.
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Sure he isn't a psychopath, but the Joker of that era wasn't. He was crazy, wild trickster who would commit crimes just for the mischief of it. Romero captured the tone of the Joker of that era perfectly.
The funny thing is IMO Meredith's Penguin is the best villain on that show, but he takes the most liberties with how the character was depicted at the time. The Penguin was always shown as kind of a posh, effeminate, verbose and eloquent gentlemen, but Burgess plays him as someone kind of gruff and imposing. Kind of like a sharp dressed Al Capone. -
we're laughing at. It's the damn foam rubber shark "chewing" its way up his thigh toward his junk.As a kid, even, and a fan of the TV show, that movie took it way, way too far.
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Just pointing out Adam West's one big flaw - his build.
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It WAS just a tv show, after all.
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are killing my interest in that movie as much as the costumes in WATCHMEN did. They just scream Joel Schumacher's Batman to me, and I don't appreciate the reminder.
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Adam West, greatest Batman ever.
I now want to present the controversial opinion that Eartha Kitt was not a bad Catwoman. She wasn't THE Catwoman - that is Julie Newmar - but Eartha Kitt played Catwoman as more of a "Dragon Lady" type sans the Asian nature. And nobody can purr like Eartha Kitt. -
Johnny Weismuller. It was the days before body-fat tests, crunches, and supplements. Even Steve Reeves (Hercules) didn't have the cuts of your average frat-boy jock these days.
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I say mid-1970s Clint Eastwood.
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Was stolen at the same time as my Hercules in New York. I was a pissed-off, hung-over dude that morning.
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Best Batman is still Neal Adams' drawing. And Best Interpretation of Batman in Another Media is animated.And who says Eartha Kitt's a bad Catwoman? I will fight you!
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Ah, Ms. Kitka.
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But, he'd be an ASS Bruce Wayne.
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If you take away the costumes you take away a large part of Alan Moore's intent with the series. And the costumes were 100% accurate to the comic book.
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Easy.
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The would look ridiculous in the real world.
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Nite Owl went from a cloth outfit to some Bat-esque armor. Other than that, yes, they were very faithful.
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But she didn't give me a boner like Newmar and Merriwether did.
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But I looooooooved Michelle Pfeiffer.
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I don't expect Batman to be completely cut and have no body fat, but I do expect him to look athletic and have some muscle.
Golden Age Batman to me was always Burt Lancaster.
http://tinyurl.com/yg7z52a
Plus Body Building has been around for ever. I don't Batman should have a body builder's build (I see him as part acrobat and part heavyweight champ) but still, guys have been ripped long before Ahnold. Case in point, the Grandfather of Body Building from the Victorian Age, Eugene Sandow:
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http://tinyurl.com/ybulm33 The old "she was asking for it" defense.
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"Well hey, come on in guys. Let's get this meeting going, whaddya say!? OH! Hey, you know what, guys? I gotta run. Have fun with that, I got a thing I gotta do. Ha Haa!"
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castings: Mr. Mom, too short, twitchy and quirky; Val Kilmer, too douchey, mailed it in; George Clooney, well, it's George Clooney. I don't even like the casting of Bale but somehow Nolan made it work for me.
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http://tinyurl.com/2hy2qcThree of those characters don't look anything like this:
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Neil Adams is best artist depiction of Batman. And BATMAN:TAS is best version of Batman in cartoon form.
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He's got the build, the chin and the acrobatics.
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Alec Baldwin as Bruce Wayne.
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Mar 26, 2010 2:37:00 PM CDT
Stabby, Fred Astaire was the visual inspiration of the Riddler
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So you could at the very least have a great Dance off between those two characters.
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I'm in a rush today, guys. Sorry.
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these jacktarded fuckwits I've never heard of! You're gonna make the old man, here, blow a vein...GRIN!
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His Tommy Udo in KISS ME DEADLY is exactly how I imagine the Joker at times - a guy who laughs at shit the rest of find completely unfunny.
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Silk Specter 2 is pretty damn close, just from fitting.
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to Batman mythology (besides Arnold Wesker and Scarface) since The 70s.
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in the wingnut movement for a while. Only in recent years has he blown up as a public persona. He is one of the web gurus behind the Drudge Report and he even helped Arianna Huffington launch the HuffPo. He runs his own website that feeds a lot of right-slanted "news" to Drudge as well as others (biggovernment.com, bighollywood.com) that are essentially just opinion sites. He's also the driving force and benefactor behind ACORN "pimp" James O'Keefe. He's a pompous douchebag that's begging to be punched in the vas deferens.
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they render any "faithfulness" argument almost indefensible.
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Mar 26, 2010 2:44:34 PM CDT
where the fuck were you gents yesterday with all this batman tal
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conti was there but it wouldve been funny to gang bang ol fett
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I didn't like Harley working with the Joker. I think the idea of him having a "sidekick" is just as bad as Robin, if not worse.
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The mind boggles. Speaking of which, has there ever been a super villain named the Mind Boggler? Sometimes for fun I try and come up with cool superhero and super villain names that nobody thought of yet. It's actually pretty hard.
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I guess I have to revoke my Film Noir card now.
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even though he lets her hang around, he never really treats her as a "sidekick." He toys with her. When he needs her for something, he'll pretend to be her Mr. J, but then, soon after, he always dumps her in a vat of acid or something.I understand your point, but I think it was more gracefully pulled off than you might be giving it credit for.
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He keeps killing them off when they annoy him but there's always a new psycho chick groupie to willingly take her place.
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http://tinyurl.com/ycrm2ut
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If she had a definitive story line. That she was his shrink when he was in Arkham, he corrupted her, used her, she went on her own for a short while, and then she comes back to him and he just kills her.
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As Mind Bugger.
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resurrect in a Lazarus Pit or have Superboy punch a hole through time or some stupid shit. No comic book character gets a definitive storyline.In fact, that'd be a good idea for a Neil Gaiman book. Old characters, pissed off about their continual state of rebootings, get uppity and come to live to murder writers and Hollywood types.
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BAH!
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rapidly approaching 75,000 posts, BTW - isn't just me, correcting my own spelling and grammar errors.
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The British equivalent of the American super villain, The Mind F*cker.
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That is the f'ing deus ex machina of the Batman universe.
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He brainwashes you through your nose!
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http://tinyurl.com/ybydzno
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He's be alright as a rogue for Green Arrow or The Flash, but he's all kindsa wrong for Batman.Any villain that draws Batman away from Gotham City is all kindsa wrong for Batman.
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Busy day, it has been thus far! And now, I shall go see HOT TUB tonight with my lady and another couple. I am completely indifferent to seeing the movie, which may mean I'll end up loving it.
Conti- I've watched about half of VICE SQUAD- wow. I would have finished it but I had to go to bed. What a crazy movie- so many themes to discuss and the script is packed with classic lines. Dude, I'm a fucking believer.
Subs- awesome Subbary®.
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I've watched it 4 or 5 times over the years and it's done very little for me. I've seen all of the cuts, including the most recent one on video. Nope, I don't really like it.
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Check it out if you get a chance: http://farewellhello.blogspot.com/
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A kind of version of Fu Manchu. An international crime lord/mastermind, kind of like how Hugo Strange is a version of Dr. Mabuse/Prof. Moriary.
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Intersting blog.
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About a character who starts messing with the life of his writer. It was on tv on one of those Stephen King miniseries.
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Can you feel the time-space continuum stretching Pebrews? Hold on, 'cause it's likely to go Mayan up in here, shortly!
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Sorry, forgot to disclose that to you. Did so earlier, though.
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on BLADE RUNNER. Fucker grew on me.
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Every idea I've ever had, somebody else had long before me.
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if you rewatched it 4 or 5 times.
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"Put a little Neosporin on it."
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And I have veto power!
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...voiced my general apathy towards Scorsese...now everyone's gone mad...
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Mar 26, 2010 3:08:52 PM CDT
I always thought the following villains would make good Batman f
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Gladiator
The Punisher
Arcade (for Brave and the Bold)
Scarecrow (Marvel version)
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That I'm going to wear an Evil Dead t-shirt when I go see all three EDs at the theater?
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He's second below Sixies.Face it, Stabs, you only have veto power over me. That plus a quarter and you'll still be $4.75 short for a cup of coffee at Starbuck's.
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It is not a film I wish to revisit over and over again. But, I love pretty much everything about it from one of Ford's best and grittiest performances to the amazing dystopian neo-noir world that Ridley Scott creates. I'm surprise you don't like it, Conti, just for its re-imagining of Film Noir in the future aspect alone.
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after The Hitcher.
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does however get me my choice of a free Munchkin at Dunkin Donuts. So, don't knock it, Subs.
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The '90s rerelease. Guess it didn't do much for me, as I've never felt compelled to revisit it.
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Not really appropriate, but something I'd like to see, nonetheless.
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Some people have to get their homes stuck in a tornado to get a Munchkin.
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Mar 26, 2010 3:22:42 PM CDT
Stabby, the reason I don't like it is because i am a Noir fan
by continentalop
BLADE RUNNER isn't really noir. It isn't a hard boiled detective story either. It is has all the visual iconography and trappings, but none of the actual substance. Deckard never does any real detective work other than the one time he blows up the photo. He just stumbles around encountering these replicants.
I am not saying it has to be a true hard boiled/noir detective story, but if you are going to make it look like one don't expect people not to be unsatisfied when they don't see a futuristic version of Sam Spade or Philip Marlowe. -
Alfred can't keep the Bat-cave medicine cabinets stocked with enough of that sh!t.
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Alls i tells ya!
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Just the waste of it...all those stories and sensory experience...wasted.
I realize this is corny as hell to say, but I was kinda moved by the idea of that tree in [deleted]. Just the idea that a person's sensory data and story might be preserved somewhere, in some form.There was a graveyard near my school as a kid, and often the stones would have a little black and white photo in an oval cameo type waterproof frame. I always used to look at the pictures, and think about the fact that every one of those was a story I'd never know. -
I think that's his thing. Besides if you believe that he is a replicant himself than it all kind of comes together as to why he is able to find the others. Plus, he used the replicant snake scale to find one of them. You missed that one piece of detective work.
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It is pretty cool. I bet it will end up having something to do with Comic-Con, which I won't be going to. But its still a cool freebie souvenir.
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your dog dies. do you call in to work and take the day off?
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Especially if you're close to your dog. But, you never tell your employer that's the reason.
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I'd rather see Dick take on Mr.Hyde for some reason.
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Mar 26, 2010 3:29:12 PM CDT
Conti, I disagree about your noir take on BLADE RUNNER.
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On the contrary, I think it's very much in the noir tradition of, really, a hapless guy searching for something while only learning some horrible truth about himself. Whether he's a replicant or not (Ridley says he is; that was my reading, anyway) he's confronting his mortality. In a way, you can see Oedipus Rex as the original noir story: guy tries to find out what's causing all this horrible stuff only to find out that the horrible truth is his own. NIGHT MOVES and ANGEL HEART are other good examples of this in noir-ish movies.
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both tortured souls with sick combat skills.
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Holly Martens comes to painful grips with his own naivety, his best friend is a truly despicable monster, etc.
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...I'm just bothered by the waste of human story and sensation.
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there would almost always be one who would call in the morning and give me a completely detailed, utterly trivial, reason for absence. And always, they want you to be grateful for their honesty. I've always wanted to say, "You know, you've just admitted that your work attendance means less to you than that browning patch of your lawn. You realize I'm going to bring that up at review time, right?"As long as we're being honest.
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Just to see what happens. I can get over things quickly, too.
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Yeeeesh.
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BOOYAH.
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from The 90s.And, there were also a couple of Batman - Punisher crossovers. (I think one of those wasn't really Batman, though, but Azrael.)
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Were you saying you thought Russel Crowe's Gladiator, Marvel's The Punisher, Marvel's Kingpin, and Saw's Jigsaw would make good Batman villains?
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I just think three of us are decidedly blase about it.
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I liked the idea of scientifically and biologically being able to communicate with one's ancestors. And Rutger Hauer's sad speech at the end of Blade Runner is the best part of the whole movie.
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Keep it up until I get back... in say... 6 hrs? Ha!!!
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I wouldn't be able to work under the circumstances at all. Last year my dad took the day off and we buried his dog. It was a sad day.
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I just don't love it much. This is also my take on Zooey Deschanel, don't tell BSB I said so.
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I'm disappointed I made it to last december.
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I'm no good with that stuff. My last dog died when I was in my last semester of law school. Fucking broke my heart to lose that boy.
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...and the teacher would be going on about living in Heaven forever, and how great it would be...and I'd start to imagine the most fun I'd ever had...and how I'd hate to live even that best moment forever and ever. Then I'd try to think of anything I'd want to do forever...play soccer, watch cartoons, read NARNIA, eat ice-cream, ride my bike...and I couldn't think of ANYTHING I'd want to do forever...I'd get this panicky claustrophobic feeling of...NO, NO I DON'T WANT TO GO TO HEAVEN! I DON'T WANT TO GO FOREVER, DON'T MAKE ME GO, DON'T MAKE ME GO!!
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And shit.
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And all that.
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Hehehehe, I love the quickness to this discussion. Fack, my girl is picking me up in two minutes!
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Should be a Nick Fury foe. Or Iron Man.
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Are we all going to become NYT bloggers soon?
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Batman villian.
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When I say Ramrod from VICE SQUAD should fight Batman.
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...oh yeah, BLADE RUNNER.
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In fact I think Punisher would work better IN Batman comics than in Marvel or his own comics. He is really a variation of Batman - a man who was traumatized as a child and used it as motivation for life goal; and a man who was traumatized and crime robbed him of his life (with his wife and kids).
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not just here but in general. I'm covering for a woman whose dog died last night.next question...do you build a coffin for the dog and bury it yourself in the woods? cause that is what she is doing. Well her boyfriend is building it.
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I fear living past seventy.
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Sans coffins. My younger brother, however, pays to have his dogs cremated and interred. I would most likely split the difference, if I had a dog.
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Mar 26, 2010 3:54:22 PM CDT
Living forever would have to come with a few conditions.
by colonelfatheart
I would stay 30-ish forever, and it wouldn't have to be at the expense of any people, i.e. vampires. Just be a person forever, and know it. Know I can't die, so I can take my time with things, read everything, not hurry around anywhere. Walk a lot more. Wander from place to place if I so choose. Let me tell you a phrase I've come to detest (although I'll probably embrace this when/if I ever retire): "Live today as if it were your last." Fuck that. If that were the case, I wouldn't work, I wouldn't save money, I wouldn't behave with any sense of accepted decency. I would do anything and everything I wanted. But I'd be frantic and unsettled. Living forever would grant me those kind of freedoms, but without the unsettled mind, without the breathless pace, without the anxiety.
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Noir and Detective fiction are not always the same. Oedipus Rex is the first detective story - and every detective story is the search for self (literally when it comes to Oepidus Rex). But it isn't necessarily a noir.
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I don't think 'Lop could articulate the milieu of parachute pants like you can.
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Don't get me started on '90s costume changes. Some of the worst designs ever. Tho, somehow, I always dug Scarlet Spider, hoodie and all.
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Mar 26, 2010 3:57:49 PM CDT
And for the record I don't think of Detective movies as Noir
by continentalop
Noir for me requires no heroes. Hard Boiled detective stories like THE MALTESE FALCON and THE BIG SLEEP are about heroic characters who enter the world of Noir for their clients and for those who can't navigate it themselves.
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That's how we carried him out to the woods to lay him in his grave, and we just covered him with it after we laid him down. A coffin is fine. Just so long as the dog isn't just buried without any sort of covering. Nothing at all just seems a bit heartless.
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You think would make a good Batman foe?
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1. Where the hero has some dark revelation or: 2. Where the hero learns nothing at all. BLADE RUNNER falls into no. 1, except it takes it a little further at the end. He decides to run, to cling to live, to embrace it in the face of an indifferent, inevitable fate. He does do more detecting than you give him credit for, too. Throw in the stylistic tropes, and bam, noir.
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first true noir?
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Are the Criminal vs. The Victims of fate.
DOUBLE INDEMNITY is about the criminal, someone who is tempted by the world of noir to commit a crime. James Cain was a master of these.
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I don't really read the other hero comic books. I remember we had this conversation once, and you had a list - including the ones you mentioned above - that all made sense to me, but you had to first explain to me who they were and what they were about.I think the things that make a good Batman villain for me are: 1. Some psychosis, but one that allows for some ambiguity, 2. A good costume (which is not the same as a gimmick, necessarily, but those help), and 3. A tragedy that evokes sympathy - a sense of there-but-for-the-grace-of-Alfred.
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But I don't know if it played in France or was that popular until later, and the term Film Noir became popular when Nino Frank talked about it in 1946. I think the overall darkness of American films, especially DOUBLE INDEMNITY, LAURA, SCARLET STREET, all came to the French's attention. But the MALTESE FALCON generally is regarded as the first noir (although I say STRANGER ON THE THIRD FLOOR or I WAKE UP SCREAMING).
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Because unlike other Detective stories it ends in tragedy and darkness. Evil wins. The Detective fails and unwittingly helps the villain succeed.
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in non-Batman movies, all the time. SHUTTER ISLAND was positively full of them. SEVEN is all about the Batman villain. SILENCE OF THE LAMBS had two Batman villains in it.
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That's because I don't even know the technical definition of Noir, and I'm not about to go pissing on trees in 'Lop's yard.
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disagreement on what movies are actually noir.
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Mr. Hyde in chains.
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Mar 26, 2010 4:17:26 PM CDT
technically, isn't it a necessary combination of all 3?
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I mean people have written essays about defining Noir.
I think a true definition is impossible because I don't see it as a genre I see it as a movement. And like all movements the boundaries are very blurred. You can see the similarities but you can't expect all the films to have the same qualities. The criteria came out later when the term Film Noir was invented years later. -
it MUST involve a guy and a dame, Correct?
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The question comes down to whether it precludes a specific kind of plot or not.
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Until the 60s when film students became aware of Film Noir and it influenced their creative choices.
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Or I should say a dame doesn't have to play a big part. T-MEN is a noir and that almost completely involves men. Same with HE WALKED BY NIGHT or BORDER INCIDENT.
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Only women in the flashback.
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Would have made good Batman foes.
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I would think a mystery is essential. The motivation for the guy to solve the dame's problem. I don't think you can stretch the word to include everything. Sure, Woody and Diane can have a noirish quality characterizing their interaction, but, if all they're doing is walking around NYC, they're not in a Noir.
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I'm off to bask in the cinematic greatness of the Evil Dead Trilogy!
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I pulled a Flick? That doesn't sound like me.
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in his most famous scene. fact, he's more Two-Face than Aaron Eckhart or Tommy Lee Jones ever managed to be. And Keyser Soze is essentially False Face, Black mask or Clayface.
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Told ya, I wouldn't know what I was talking about.
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DETOUR isn't a mystery. Neither is KISS OF DEATH or DEVIL THUMBS A RIDE.
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explanation of Noir, or no?
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They refer to Christopher Nolan as one of Noir's current leading proponents.
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...I always think think like that, I'm a morbid sonofabitch...I just laugh and flick poo through my tears.
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Or were we saying Two Face's most famous scene?
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you get styes.
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...and film noir.
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Maybe they could answer our queries.
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until you get to the 2000s.
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For the definition. And even that is very vague.
And yeah, I would say Nolan is one of the modern proponents of Noir, with films like Following, Memento and Insomnia. Batman, however, is not noir. -
I left the house with a light jacket when I should have brought a coat.
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is loosely defined and based on style and attitude more than anything else."I don't know Noir, but I can tell it when I sees it."
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...movies about men in fedoras made by French African-Americans...right?
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HAHAHAHAHA!
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...I liked it too.
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FACK® it.If it came out after 1950, it's just playing Halloween dress-up.That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
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You know it when you see it. Honestly, that is the best definition.
I mean MILDRED PIERCE is a Chick flick, but it is also a noir. THE THIN MAN is a detective story, written by Dashiell Hammett, but it is not a noir. And DESERT FURY and LEAVE HER TO HEAVEN are both in color but both noirs IMO. -
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KISS ME, DEADLY; TOUCH OF EVIL, ODDS AGAINST TOMORROW, all came out at the end of the 50s and I consider those all true noirs.
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MILLER'S CROSSING is Noirish.FARGO is not.
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dark in appearance, tone or subject matter? I would say all three.
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Love it. Part of my movie quintet of Detective Revisionist movies.
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Or, is fantasy excluded?
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Has some elements, but I see more elements of classic gangster movies and Hard boiled fiction (of course it should have some noir since it is based on Hammett's work like THE GLASS KEY).
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visual angles. Yes? No?Am I getting the hang of this, or just confusing myself more?
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But not Noirish. I think any sort of hero fiction can never really be noir. And Batman is without a doubt a hero.
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A cop movie. And an action movie. I don't think it needs the noir label.
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But not CASINO.
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And by modern I mean 1980 on:
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Blood Simple
Red Rock West
The Last Seduction
The Vanishing
Shallow Grave
Usual Suspects
Memento
The Lookout
Bound
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in there?
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That is double fisted noir.
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Would you call the Bourne movies Noir? MEMENTO is just a Bourne movie backwards. (And, yes, I know MEMENTO came first. I'm just using Bourne as an example of the type. BULLITT would work just as easily.)
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but the style and tone of MEMENTO fits in with noir. BOURNE is too kinetic, too action-oriented.
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I'm dying to see CUTTER'S WAY, too.
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Film Gris. Or, Film Beige.
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I think a director could make BOURNE into a noir story. That's not Limon/Greengrass' way, though.
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Memento is very different from Bourne.Bourne is about a guy who happens to have amnesia; Memento is about the experience of amnesia.
The he entire story played backwards is very much part of the noir tradition of flashbacks and unreliable narrators. The fact that we, the audience, are unaware of what is really going on is very noirish where people's loyalties and motives are in question.
In fact for me Memento finds a clever way to combine three Noir tropes - the detective story, the flashback/non-chronological storyline, and the protagonist with amnesia - and combine it in a new/interesting way. It even throws in a femme fatale - Moss - who turns out not to be evil at all but instead has her own motives for being manipulative. -
I'll be in and out over the next week or so, since I'm on vacation. I'm going to try to spend most of days away from computers. I'm going to try, that is. Have a good one, Pebrews. And keep fuckin' that chicken.
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This is Subtitles_Signing_Off. I'll check back in tonight, if I'm not too tired and hammered.Have a good remainder of your Fridays.
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I should focus on work so I can get out of here at a decent time.
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Mar 26, 2010 5:31:09 PM CDT
But, 'Lop, and we'll have to table this until next time,
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what about the visual style? Nothing about MEMENTO reminds me of German Expressionism or that type of stylization.
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Have fun....
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Screwball Comedies.
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...out here too much...he's been a ninja recently.
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Flick's still hanging around, I think. And you know some of the others'll trickle in.I'll type @ yas fer sure, later.
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...Cheeses has been signing out early too, I think he followed up on that glowing, Greek, mahogany fireplace after all...
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...well, maybe just a little.
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I need that like I need an anthrax facial scrub…Naw, just getting old and getting drunker quicker…I started at 2 pm yesterday…
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...well, not THAT Greek kind.
Not that I disapprove of the Greek kind or anything...unless it involves boys.
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Mar 26, 2010 5:59:55 PM CDT
This is how it would be with me and the neighbor…
by cheeses_of_nazareth
Me: Want a beer?
Her: I don’t drink.
Me: Oh, yeah, I forgot….want to smoke a bowl…
Her: You know I work for the Tarrant County Justice system in drug rehabilitation…
Me: So, is that a no? Well, you wanna just fuck?
Her: Sure.
Me: Naw, without the beer and weed, I’m just not in the mood…
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Mar 26, 2010 6:03:41 PM CDT
This is how it would be with me and the neighbor…now formatted…
by cheeses_of_nazareth
Me: Want a beer?
Her: I don’t drink.
Me: Oh, yeah, I forgot….want to smoke a bowl…
Her: You know I work for the Tarrant County Justice system in drug rehabilitation…
Me: So, is that a no? Well, you wanna just fuck?
Her: Sure.
Me: Naw, without the beer and weed, I’m just not in the mood…
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I'm not in trouble Flick. I'm a Teamster. I could shit on the floor and trip the station manager face first into it and they still would have to start with a verbal warning. No...my shift just changed enough to put me in the Live truck way more so I am not in front of the computer as much. That is why I was talking about getting a Blackberry or as Scary suggested the Droid. I have from now til the 11 oclock news to dick around though so LETS GET DICKING!!!!!!
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I will now just burst into the PB screaming...LETS GET DICKING!!!!!!
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how you summon Scary.
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...I've endured a lot of abuse for laughing at YEAR ONE, but that line still makes me snigger.
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I also don't remember much about it other than some kinda of shit licking near the begining. I laughed at that.
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Dickin’ time it is, then? Let me go check, I think I left mine in my work-pants…plus I’ll need my Viagra®…
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Brick and Insomnia as far as the noir shit was concerned. I also have a problem seperating Hard Boiled from Noir. To me they were always the same. I wouldn't know a noir without a simile to save my life.
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you can skip the viagra. It only makes penis puppetry that much harder. huh huh penis..huh huh harder.
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Mar 26, 2010 6:26:36 PM CDT
Flick, Did yall talk about anything interesting today?
by cheeses_of_nazareth
I must confess, I have been unable to read a whole days worth of posts lately….I used to read it ALL…now, I’m lucky if I catch 20% to 40% of what I miss while at work…Thank Goodness, Subs keeps tabs…
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...hour long show, sort of a SIMON & SIMON/SCARECROW AND MRS. KING sort of thing.
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...we talked about the nature of art vs. commercialism etc... 80's fashion with a focus on parachute pants and half shirts on guys, hay bales, deceased dog etiquette, death in general, Batman (no, really?), lots about film noir...
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Cheese, WaterShit, Subs, etc. I found you! I've tracked you guys down through about 5 TBs. Going back to Scorekeeper's Goonies TB from three weeks ago with Yack. I feel like Captain Holly from Watership Down when he finally catches up to the other Sandleford rabbits. You guys have been impressively "BAMPF"ing around AICN, leaving a multitude of posts in your wake. What's my point? What's it matter to me? Nothing, I guess. Just a fan of the old PeddalbacksBaledown 2.whatever who had a good time hanging with you guys when you pushed that Pedalback last year over the 10K mark. Anyway, back to work for me. Peace, gents.
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I like it Mac…Toots works for a Criminal BTAF (Bureau Of Tobacco, Alcohol and Firearms)unit and he is her next door ‘stoner’ alcoholic neighbor who helps her get into the minds of drunk drug pushers with automatic weapons….…
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...Captain Holly indeed.
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Mar 26, 2010 6:41:24 PM CDT
...back to work? Don't let the Black Rabbit of Inlé get you.
by flickapoo
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and that's exactly one of the reasons I still have faith in AICN. Thanks, my brotha. Now, I gotta get back to mending this shredded ear of mine. Zorn. All zorn!
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I see a three paragraph short story from vanilla and I scroll right by
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Where you been? Good to see you…Don’t LOSE us again…You are listed proudly in our hall of fame (#6 in line of first posts)at the Shelter…But, I’ll let Subs are Moose give you the details…Hope you been well, dude, and you are ALWAYS welcome here, wherever here may be…
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...I usually check in every few hours and catch up, but if I don't...it's overwhelming.
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Fu Inle draws ever closer...I must get this honeycomb dug, er, I mean chart completed! Looks like I missed a good film discussion earlier today, though. I'll have to try to keep up with you guys, though next week's gonna be a toughie at the office.
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clinic. Stoner is court appointed to help out there and Toots is tasked with tracking down problem druggies. Together they battle red tape, each other, hard drugs(not weed of course) and teach America how to love again.
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You had that idea, I credited Mac, because I cannot read….and it is a great idea for a TV show…Like the ‘Mentalist‘…
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I think both try to be neo-noirs, but only INSOMNIA succeeds IMO. INSOMNIA is about guilt and deception, including deceiving yourself. It is also about a character who's only personal ambitions and fears drives him to chose do something immoral.
BRICK on the other hand, is a failure of a noir and as a hard boiled detective story. The reason why for me is that it is just BUGSY MALONE trying to be serious - none of these kids have "earned" the right to be hard boiled or jaded. It is just kids playing grown up. And because of all there posturing I find no real substance to any betrayals or acts of evil they commit. It is like watching a school play perform Macbeth.
As for Hard Boiled and Noir being the same - I will have to disagree. Hard Boiled was a writing style that came out of the 20s & 30s, and involved crime and violence and sparse dialogue. It involved "toughness", something that doesn't necessarily exist in noir.
Also hard boiled is a writing style, not a visual style, so you can have hard boiled movies that are not film noirs. The original GLASS KEY with George Raft is NOT a film noir, nor is the first two versions of THE MALTESE FALCON, despite being written by Dashiell Hammett because they don't share the visual style associated with noir, nor do they have the same level of moral ambiguity.
Now, their is a certain books in hard boiled that are without a doubt noir - like James M. Cain's stuff - but I wouldn't really say that they are always one and the same. Like I said above, you can have something be Hard Boiled and not have it be noir. -
it's been a lonely road without much AICN lately. But it does warm this geeky heart of mine to see you guys still fighting the good fight. And come back to a warm reception, to boot.
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...and when the show turns out to be a big hit, Mac would'a shared the credit.
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Toots has the hots for Stoner because her dad was an alcoholic, weed-smoking ,hippie war protester who could never remember her name, so, he just called her Toots…like he did her Mom and every other woman he knew or met… Stoner, just wants get his court appointed community service over with and get back to doing what he does best…smoking weed and selling enough weed to support his habit…and drinking beer…He resists her sexual advances even though she is his dream girl, fit, tan, long hair, big tits…Hilarity would HAVE to ensue…it would just HAVE to…
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Mar 26, 2010 7:07:52 PM CDT
Thanks Conti. I agree on all that. I would be foolish not to
by macready452
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Toots: All the homeless men in the area are robo-tripping and hanging brain on the street corner.Stoner: LETS GET DICKING!!!!Toot: Stooo-nerrr.*rolls eyes*
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but I thought it was a blast. The language they all used was crackling, I thought... and it made me sit up and take notice of JGL.
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I dig your pitch for Toots and Stone, but for the life of me can't figure out WHY Stoner would resist the advances of a "catch" like Toots....UNLESS she actually DOES toot- alot, which is enough to turn Stoner off. She's the perfect girl. Except she has gas. I mean, Monica Bellucci has gas, but it probably has the aroma of fresh baked Tuscan bread with olives and fresh garlic baked into it.
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There's got to be a reason for the conflict in order for it to be sustainable. Otherwise peopel will start wondering by the 3rd episode why he's not just hitting it if she wants it already.
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but I agree with Conti that the fact that it took place in high school detracted from the sense of danger, although high school can be a dangerous place, just not in this scenario. Definately more Hard Boiled than anything else.I liked JGL right from 3rd Rock. The only pleasant surprise is that he didn't fade into obscurity or drug use.
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I did feel like I was watching kids pretending to be "grown-ups." It didn't take away from my enjoyment b/c I knew and expected that. It was actually part of the fun of watching it. It inspired me to write a scriptment riffing on that idea. Except instead fo taking place in/around high school and reminsicent of "noir" detective movies, my story was set at a summer camp and riffs on the conventions from old Westerns. Yes, it requires some suspension of disbelief and certain things seem corny out of contect, but overall Brick worked for me and JGL did a commendable job in his role. Claire the corpse > than squirrel wig Claire on LOST in Season 6 in my opinion. Plus I thoroughly enjoyed seeing Lukas Haas again and his acting as The Pin.
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she is tasked with monitorring his progress in rehab and she busts his balls for not cleaning up. It is hard to resist,Toots: All the *pppppfffffftttrrrooott*homeless men in the area are *gggrrrrrrrrruuuuuuunnnnnnfff*robo-tripping and *bbbblllllaaaaatttch*hanging brain on the street corner.*toot*
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Tight shot…Man’s head buried under several layers of pillows and blankets. Man mumbles and pulls pillows tighter. Door Knocks again…man mumbles and squirms ignoring the noise.The knocking continues…Woman’s voice: Get up, Stoner…I know you’re in there…the keys are still in the ignition to your unlocked car.Stoner: MMMMrrrmmfff….(perhaps he farted, leave this unclear…)Woman: Stoner, get up, it’s after 3 pm…I need your help…There’s a big shipment of cocaine coming into town tonight and…Suddenly the door is open, and Stoner is wide awake and standing there in his disheveled robe and underwear. Stoner: Come in Toots…What’s all this about cocaine?Toots: Big shipment tonight in the harbor…Stoner: What’s in it for me?Toots, unbuttoning the top buttons of her blouse: Anything you want…Stoner: ANYTHING? Toots stands up to take off her belt and skirt.Stoner: Wait! Hold up…I’m out of the Work Release Program, you know…I don’t report to BATF anymore…Toots: Really, ‘cause you could be RIGHT back on BATF’s leash if I call in the dogs…Stoner: You wouldn’t do…the Drug sniffing dogs… yeah, I guess you would…Well, can a man at least smoke a bowl before he goes to work?Fade to titles and credit montage of bikinis, beer can palaces, baggies of weed and court dates…
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I like that the "fantasy" was that she was wearing MORE clothes in an alley and "reality was her and 2 other chicks wearing spandex and stretching in her bedroom. Some how I pictured it the other way around.
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...we have to travel back in time to air it.
I wonder if there is some contemporary angle to work...maybe you need to tap your neighbor for real, then keep a blog about it or something...or write a book about your real life 70s TV show life.
Oh! Or maybe it's a straight up new show, but the hero (you) can't believe that at this point in his life he's stumbled into a real life thirty year old TV show...cliches keep turning up, and he's all "what the fuck?"... -
oh, my bad, MacReady. I thought Cheeses said in his post that Stoner was resisting her advances. Put your way, though, I get it. The conflict is natural that he'd gun for her and she's reuff. Constantly. But still fund the scruffy-looking nerdherder entertaining...not to mention her responsibility.
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that shoudl have been "NERFherder". but you guys knew that
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Toots is physically his dream girl, but she can’t tolerate alcoholism and drug abuse…even of Tylenol ®…And, as we all know, Stoner LIVES for drugs and alcohol…It is his experience with these matters that usually solves the case since she knows jack shit about the drug world…Yet, she wants him so bad…because she knows that she can change him…FIX him…
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nice! my favorite part might be: Fade to titles and credit montage of bikinis, beer can palaces, baggies of weed and court dates… very funny and I totally get the visuals.
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...Milano. Nicole Eggert too.
Incidentally, "having the hots" is a specific medical term from the 80s. Very technical. I could explain it to you, but I'd have to do it in Latin...you wouldn't understand. -
I thought for some reason Stoner was rebuffing her advances. Now I get it that from Toots' perspective it's the old "I want to, but I know I shouldn't." And he's not helping her resist it by wanting to get sticky with the sticky with her at least once an episode.
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whoa, this is heavy.
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watch out for the AICN owsla!
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...he can only kick ass when fucked up.
In the show, you're always rooting for him to get clean and the two of them to get together, but at the same time you're waiting for Stoner to snort/smoke/inject/swallow his spinach and pound some righteous bad guy ass.
It's a regular thing, sort of like B.A. Baracus getting knocked out to fly. -
Always late to the party....what about the man who wasn't there??
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I think, if done well, today’s audience would enjoy a 70’s style NCIS/CSI rip that highlights the Scarface era of drug and gun trafficking…throw in some Barney Miller moments, Charlie’s Angel level semi-nudity, Moonlighting’s sexual tension, except in reverse… as well as Three’s Company trademark misunderstanding themes and maybe a Miami Vice style soundtrack, and I think you have a winner…
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...and your people shall never be destroyed.
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...the 70s show you always really WANTED to see?? All the things you said, but boobs and violence galore...
"Where your favorite 70s show faded out to commercial...we're just getting started!" -
...gets fucked up by accident...always a favorite in reruns.
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...just a shitty spoof like that STARSKY AND HUTCH movie.
It has to be more like BSG, not in tone, but good in its own right...while playing with the classic cheese. -
Stoner used to fly 20 tons of marijuana from Central America a month in the 80's when he worked for the CIA…Toots rejected her dad after his senseless random death and became a BATF officer. He has the connections…she needs the promotion…
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and then he MUST see her naked now.
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...details from your life, make the guy a specific and interesting character...not just a 70s cliche'.
I don't know how you go about pitching a show, but I would watch this show in a heartbeat. In fact, I can't believe it isn't already on the air...the time is right. -
its period with subtle nods to antiquated tech and pop but classic comedy and storytelling
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...by Mac.
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Stoner is a rad dude who struts around in his parachute pants and half shirt with Nike high tops.
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...always wanted a boy.
MAC&CHEESES -
Toots thinks that her stoner, hippie, draft-dodging, anti-war protester dad was killed for things he saw in the 60’s and early 70’s during CIA 'free drug' mind control experiments he volunteered to experience…because he never passed up free drugs...EVER...She needs the promotion to prove that her father was innocent and a hero…Stoner met her Dad at a party when he was like 15...
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while I would become TOTALLY addicted to this show, this also has the makings for a fucking HILARIOUS novel. I LOVE a good trashy read... this would be choice.
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Stoner/Cheese at this point. Hmmmmmmm..we need a Dude/Garrett type guy. 40ish. Maybe Dermot Mulroney.
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in the archives? I LOVE that I got to be Olivia Wilde... although, to be honest, P!nk would be more appropriate.
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Mar 26, 2010 8:25:29 PM CDT
...Sam Elliot, right. I can't believe I couldn't remember...
by flickapoo
...his name.
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a bit long in the tooth now. My fantasy cast was character specific, at least in Cheeses case.
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Yeah that way too.
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like Wolverine calls everyone Bub.
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Mar 26, 2010 8:33:57 PM CDT
Toots and Stoner, particularly Stoner, has that vibe.
by colonelfatheart
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Rob Corddry puts it over-the-top into the funny category. Yeah, there are those typical 80s jokes, but they don't linger on them to the point of being annoying. It's balanced with good character humor, and Crispin Glover is a great sidegag throughout.
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When, I grow my hair out...which I have been tempted to do ever since seeing your fantasy image pic of me... I look not TOO dissimilar to that gentleman…But, to play Stoner…it needs to be a burned out Nic Cage, Nick Nolte, Jack Nicholson sort of vibe…Nickin’ seems to work….
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Mar 26, 2010 8:36:08 PM CDT
Catching up, fack I missed the Batman vs. chat AND film noir?
by yackbacker
I should just stop trying to have a life outside of this place.
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I am keeping it to watch it again. So funny.
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I'm just kickin' it until I can head over to my buddy's and get fucking stoned.
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but, interested...Tell me more...
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Nolte? Now? I don't have a problem with that at all just not what I was thinking. How about Toots? Ellen Barkin? or younger? Lets just cut the shit...what does you neighbor look like and age?
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Holy shit, I lost my MIND with that ending.
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Great one. God I love that line. The attention to detail in creating the world where Woody's personality is so defined the others make fun of him for it (simultaneously a poke at his pull-string monotony). Just gold.
In the same way that they go so far that the future has it's own kitsch with the brilliant touch of the neon-tubed umbrellas in - BLADE RUNNER, Goddammit! Ha!
And yes yes, I'm lagging behind as usual. Curse of the night shift and being too damn slow. Which is a bitch when it comes to churning out the storyboards, donchaknow. -
...wouldn't watch STONER AND TOOTS/MAC & CHEESES as described above.
"The 70s show you always wanted to see...where your favorite 70s show fades to commercial, we're just getting started!" -
Mar 26, 2010 8:43:35 PM CDT
White- just the other day the "Howdy howdy howdy howdy" line
by yackbacker
popped into my head as I was peeing. There I am, laughing to myself and saying "Look, I'm woody!" in the midst of a piss. that made me laugh a little more to be honest. It was one of those moments that you wish the whole world could share with you. And now, I have. YES!
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They're very satirical in context.
And to still lag behind on yet another thread (you guys are merciless, but you're improving my 2 fingered typing), Cage does a great Batman homage. Both with the newer armoured versions and a loving nod to Adam West in his superhero cadence. -
in SoCal in 1970-ish. There's ostensibly a plot, but it's more fun if read as the episodic stoner farce it is. It's kinda like Lebowski if he actually were a PI and was in his prime. I could try to describe the plot, but what's the point? There's bikers, paranoia, quasi-fascist cops, X-rated neckties, the early days of the Internet, paranoia, an international conspiracy that may be a nefarious Asian crime ring or a tax dodge for dentists, surfing, lots and lots of weed, and rock and roll. And paranoia. It's a farce, but Pynchon is obviously in love with the era, especially since he lived among hippies in an LA neighborhood not unlike the one described in the book, and it's actually kinda poignant. Recommended heartily.
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...I'm going to watch it at home with some drinks...and I'm going to like it.
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That was awesome. I liked all the flubs and intentional low bdget stuff. My favorite part was in the first nunchuk scene where they fly out of his hand and someone off camera throws them back to him. Like I said there was just way to much to enjoy. I have to watch it again.
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I've got Peeber lag too. Maybe I should see someone about that.
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HAW!
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I'd download that shit illegally and watch it like a motherfacker.
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nice to get reviews on things I have been eyeing. Glad the Woody line got some retro love even if not right off the bat.
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FINKY!!!!
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since the trailer made me pee myself laughing. I ♥ John Cusack. I also ♥ Chevy Chase in his dingbat mode.
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Some golden nuggets today as usual, paisan.
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...useful, really, but sometimes I get Pedalback anxiety. Just the knowledge that it's ALWAYS going on...always something interesting...it gets to me sometimes.
If this were a real bar, you'd go home and you wouldn't be here...but the computermachine is always there...staring at me...taunting me... -
Sounds like something you plug into the back of your HDTV!
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Which has been available to the general public for several months now, so I really don't feel bad about that.
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it has just been me Flick and Cheeses with the ocassional Scary sighting and then BAM Vanilla, Colonel and Yack.
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See ya fookers.
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Mar 26, 2010 8:55:11 PM CDT
Flick, you're raising a subject that might be our downfall
by yackbacker
The Pedalback machine never dies. But it must die. Uh-oh, now I've pushed the topic in front of you all. Backpeddle!
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...it's Friday...BE a bad guy.
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I had in a bar in Hoboken... it didn't turn out so well. Kind of tastes like crap. I'm going to have to bribe that bartender into telling me how he made it. 'Scuse me... and now back to our regularly scheduled Pedalback.
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Even if I was late as usual. Appreciated even in retrospect, Friend-o (which is as good as "That's a Bingo" in terms of foreigner jokes).
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Sorry that 'Stranger in a Strange Land' didn’t float your boat…but, just remember how controversial it must have been when it was first published…
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I mean, sure, it probably will SOMEday, but so does everything. That seems a strange thing to bring up. Plus, it makes you a fokking killjoy. Way to go. Now I need more alcohol.
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I see you!
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but I would KILL for her abs and ass. Holy shit.
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Mar 26, 2010 9:00:07 PM CDT
...yeah, it'll be interesting when I have to get back to...
by flickapoo
...real work. I've been taking time off to watch our toddler.
Maybe I won't be able to take it...maybe I'll have to quit my work and be a househusband, 70s style. Take up smoking and backgammon...cocktails with the girls at 4:30... -
I think Yack meant in relation to the previous mortality/immortality/vampire drawbacks thing from earlier. He and Flick by extension just went sorta existential with the idea of the PB! Holy Crap!
Am I right Yack, or did I just shake you with the peeing with a Woody crack? -
Scary, I love it when you talk Navi to me!
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...it's like you've found 50 kilos of coke and just need to figure out a way to turn it into $$ before getting caught or killed.
I don't watch a lot of TV, but I want to watch that show bad...I wonder if it's possible to write up a pitch for a show without actually writing a screenplay...
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she can sang.
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I type really slow when I am stoned, and often people I am responding to go to bed before I complete my response…I blame it on the school system…And, I blame whoever arranged the 26 letters and 10 numerals on a keyboard…I’t like going to the eye doctor every time I look at my keyboard…
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...you've got your cross-hairs on the wrong Yack.
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...in high school. I was convinced she was trying to turn me gay...turns out she was just trying to make a Pedalbacker out of me.
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Still replying to earlier shit, but still...
When I worked on that shitty film even more fan reviled than Supes, there was a lovely Costume Designer who had worked on the Pfeiffer Catwoman suit. And she went into how because the latex was so unforgiving in its movement you couldn't actually have stitches like that because it would have puckered everywhere and looked like shit (she didn't say it like that and it was actually sorta weird discussing the finer points of fetish wear with her as she gave off a bit of a Mum vibe). So they actually painted them on with white latex. Seems pretty obvious in retrospect and so much for me being an observant artist (should come with the territory), but I thought that fascinating.
And then she gave me a free pair of Jaime Kennedy's (don't get me started) Nikes! She was awesome! -
Who pondered the death of Pedalback. It drove Scary to drink And to think about P!nk With her tight ass but small little rack.
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Meeeeow. -
...I'm an incorrigible gossip for backstage stuff.
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I let my kid type an email reply to my Mum yesterday and came in a while later to find him still going because he was typing properly which he said they were learning in Library time. That's great.
And it gives me hope that in a few years time we'll reverse some of the damage that inefficient and half-arsed technology SMS has wreaked on language and communication in general.
The thing with me is that now I'm marginally faster with the two-fingered I find my fingers overtaking themselves in trying to catch up and I'm actually slowed by making heaps more dyslexic typos because of it! -
Never was someone so hit or miss. Heckler is an amazing film, dare I say brilliant. His scene in Harold and Kumar with the bush andpissing is one of the funniest things ina comedy in the last decade. That is all I got on Jaime Kennedy. Everything else sucks. Except he sucks on Jennifer Love Hewitts huge knockers...last I checked anyway.
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I know D.V. digs that stuff too. My fave thing is probably having someone on Poltergeist confirm that Hooper was Coked off his head the whole time as the reason Spielberg not-so-backseat drove that one.
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This could be the next 'Breaking Bad" or "Weeds"With a 70's McMillian & Wife/McCloud/Policewoman with Angie Dickinson sort of vibe...And on cable referencing SNL, Jimmy Carter, and Bobbie Sands 'hunger strike' jokes...
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Nooooo. I'm talking about how the PB will be immortal even when we're gone. That's the fucked up thing about it all- not that we die, but that we DON'T die. Dozens of years from now, some dipshit in grad school will be writing his/her dissertation on the community aspects of early internet adopters and their attraction to sites with limited interface options. And he or she will be reading my very fucking post and I will tell you right now, kiddo: your thesis sucks, you don't get the PB, you didn't live it like we did, so stop trying to take our ideas and mold them into something different to make your paper easier to write. That's intellectual dishonesty, and you're killing something with your crap ideas. And don't steal STONER & TOOTS- that shit is OUR property. Ass.
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So gorgeous. She hated Lee Marvin in real life, they also made THE KILLERS with Marvin a few years earlier. Their mutual dislike made for great onscreen chemistry.
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I stopped typing and went to another window and came back without proofing. Amateur.
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LETS GET DICKING!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oh just in terms of being such a douche. And I think they cut out some of the atrocious makeup stuff which is supposed to be one of his things. There was a bit where it's basically blackface because of his performance rather than some sort of Eddie Murphy type transformation. And the thing was he didn't know how to 'work' the makeup. Of course the main Mask was terrible design-wise and diminished the performance all by itself and worse still undid what the original design got right in terms of amplifying eyes and mouth and therefore performance. But hey, he was such a dick and apparently it was Oz that was uninteresting and a downer not him. I guess he thought he was slumming it in the boonies. Well he sure didn't teach everyone a lesson by bringing it.
I saw you mention Heckler previously in the PB though - I'm not writing him off completely, just all the tired shtik. I'll hafta get a hold of that one. H & K I still haven't seen. Friday is my idea of funny stoner shit. And the first few seasons of Weeds. And Brad Pitt in true romance.
And hey, I snigger like a dork every time some old codger and his wife goes up to the counter at McDonalds and asks for a cone. So maybe I shouldn't judge...
And I guess he has the last laugh with JLH. My wife's got e'm but damn if I can get near 'em... -
The Killers. To many movies with Killer in the title. Stupid Netflix.
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Well that all makes sense until you consider this is fucking retarded/dodgy search results non-immortal AICN and that all these moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
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That should get you to the movie. Also look under Don Siegel, he directed it. It's also got a badass Ronald Reagan in it, a fucking classic.
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Hope that's not crossing the line there Scary. I keed because I love. For poetry my mind defaults at that man from Nantucket...
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I love everything about that film. Fucking blissful anger. Lee Marvin shits all over Mel Gibson's wannabe badass from PAYBACK (which was a remake of POINT BLANK).
Vanilla, you may be right re: AICN's failed infrastructure. A spilled 40 oz. Mountain Dew could short out the whole works at any moment here. -
i hear you about Son of the Mask(I think that is what you were getting at). His crimes are far greater than his contributions.Friday is the best. Chris Tucker could never top it. Part of HIS problem.
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It's amazing, read his filmography. It would take 3 minutes to write, proof, edit and publish his entire body of work.
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...all your life has to be in there...the trouble with women...the stock market thing...working security for your belly-dancing daughter...watercording...selling a poem for $2 in the 80s...that's the good stuff.
I don't know if you're as funny in person as in writing, but it would be so cool to somehow pitch the show in a video clip...a show needs professional writers of course, but your life is the Rosetta Stone of the series.
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and i'm bumping Point Blank to the top after that praise.
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Mar 26, 2010 9:51:19 PM CDT
OK,,, when we start talking about sucking Cheese's teats
by scarywaitress
I need more alcohol. And maybe a TV break, I've been staring at this fokking screen too long today. Too much work, too little PB, to be sure, but still... And VanillaV... you should see some of the stuff Cheeses has said to me. You've got a LOOOOOONG way to go before any lines get crossed... but it's gentlemanly of you to consider the line at all ☺ Catch y'all in a bit. I REALLY hope there's a new episode of Spartacus to stream.
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talk about stretching what you have. But I can't begrudge him holding out for 20 million for Rush Hour 3. He may be more self-aware of his limited range than we give him credit for.
I would add Ruby Rod to Friday though. But damn he would never touch something like that in a million years any time after that.
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I whip this shit up all the time. It's easy, you see... I do this shit fo' free... Sometimes dirty, but always sublime.
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for the show too.
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Truth.
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I WISH I was as funny in writing as I am in person…you guys miss out on all the subtle stuff that only tonal inflection can convey…Seriously, I feel the same way about your childhood booger eating/shift culprit tales…I haven’t even told you guys how I lost my virginity to a card carrying WITCH (think Samantha Stevens) who followed me for Two decades and is over-due to show up again at any moment…
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when you get there with your kidlet, watch out for fucking Fox in Socks. All the others are pretty fine, but the kid will try to spring that shit on you when you're tired and your mouth is ill-prepared. Don't fall for it. Fox is a mawfaw.
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But, if your photos are to be believed…you win, double-handfuls down…
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Also Boorman's THE GENERAL, another great film: http://tinyurl.com/yc7xngx
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You already *Bleeeeeeeeepeeeed* your 'Darling Husband' into submission and sleep? That, my friends, is 'Pudendad Control'...
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No matter how peeps go on about men ruling the world, that is the untimate truth. I ain't whipped, just telling it like it is.
With that, I'm taking the monsters out to the shops, I guess I need a little more Nintendo DL and Littlest Pet Shop ear-bashing. Seeyas. -
See "mixed bag" http://bit.ly/aJkpmX
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Links are better than winks...and they bring a lot more traffic…
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People that write for professional outfits no less.
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Unless you have a moral issue with that...
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Except anything involving card games and food. You cheat me out of either of those things and I'll tear your livin' throat out.
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...had an interesting adulthood...
Cross the streams somehow, and we're unfucking stoppable. -
...I'd be happy right now.
I didn't go to bed.
I'm not happy. -
I'm brewing a fresh pot, if anyone cares... pancakes for breakfast, too... with Grade B maple syrup, which sounds like I'm being cheap but actually tastes WAY better. It has a kind of caramel flavor that Grade A completely lacks.
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said in best Homer voice. You are so right about maple syrup too. Except both are tons better than the no-sugar fakey stuff which has a horrible aftertaste, but the only one I can have these days. Ah well.
And cheer up Flick! -
My neck is an absolute mess. How da frig am I gonna drive to NJ today in this condition? A mess!
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although, it IS Saturday.
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What a delightful surprise! The fear-porn gravy train is finally pulling into the station. L like Kiefer Sutherland, but I HATED that show.
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My own fault though. Too much working 2 jobs (bloody single income family sucks) and drinking Coke & Fruit juice & eating at awful times trying to keep myself awake. So stupidly obvious in retrospect. Ah well.
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I hear the "single income family sucks." I hear that loud and clear. I'll make you an omelette instead. I do this one with onions, mushrooms, and goat cheese that will rock your world. You're in Sydney?
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Why do I keep falling asleep on the couch?? The bride doesn't even wake me up
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My boy loved the new toy..but he was like who's Ted kord?
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So I go off to work for a couple of days, and suddenly there's more to read in the PB than last time I went through LORD OF THE RINGS. If it weren't for the Subbarys, I wouldn't know where the hell I am.
And I forgot to add Olivia Wilde to the "so hot it hurts" list. And no matter how much the PB loves Pink, MrsSpud would be on ya like white on rice. Apparently Pink is hers and hers alone.
Aaaaaaaand I'm back to work again. Keep on keepin' on, and enjoy those pancakes, they smell aces! Spud Out... -
Sorry to get all BSB on you, but I needs some coffee.
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(Watch Mac skip this one! ;))
Gotta watch the ol' Cholesterol too as it's in my family and my Granddad carked it before I arrived on the scene because of it. Cheese does rock my world, too. But even though I've been really good (buying diet cheese plastic garbage cured me of eating too much cheese) for a couple of years now and have dropped a few stone I'm still miserable. Life isn't worth living without chocolate (was never really a Vanilla fan, except for the scent). Despite being really overweight for a long time it never had anything to do with any complex or comfort mechanism, I just lerve food. Not sweets so much except for glorious chocolate. Got high blood pressure and on medication for it but it's stress that makes my stuff skyrocket more than diet. Omelettes are gooood though. I think what shits me is that thing of getting near the end of your thirties and realising that yes you have to actually listen to your body when while you were younger you could basically ignore it. But my brain like most men, is still at the sniggering teenage level. I watch a lot of commentary tracks and making-ofs while on the treadmill. Killing two birds and all. So not Vanilla so much, but between the Irish and the Slavic, very white!
And yeah I'm in Sydney. Sorta. Actually a coupla hours out up in the Blue Mountains. Named for the haze all the Eucalyptus in the air gives things.
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Mar 27, 2010 9:42:51 AM CDT
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Or you're a bed-hog? Or your dame is mad at you? Anyway, morning!
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I love my man, but I have had to sleep on the couch myself, due to snore volume... HIS, not mine... I mean, he would do this thing where he actually, like, sings with every out breath. I have wanted him dead. That's all I'm saying.
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My fiancee fucking kicks me right out of bed when I snore. She says I gnash my teeth, too. It's a miracle she can sleep at all.
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farewellhello.blogspot.com He's trying to get his first novel off the ground.
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Pancakes smell good…Just droppin’ in a bit before work…
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Thoughts? I was thinking IGN speaks with ENCOM, or DESPICABLE ME.
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...you're a professional man in uniform, I'm sure you did your duty and got the job done.
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This thread is entirely too sluggish…We’re burning thru them at the rate of one every 2 days now…
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I came home and went to bed, slept the fear away. The morning sun burnt it off like it was fog on a swamp.
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Hey Cheesesman. I'm telling ya, Inherent Vice is the way to go. As for Stranger in a Strange Land, even though I was disappointed with it (and trust me, I totally get why it was such a big deal in its day), I'm glad I read it.
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...I'm very nosy...but tell me to shut the fuck up and I'll shut the fuck right up.
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The Aussie-back, in honor of Vanilla Vades.
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Roomy, lots of fresh krod too!
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Let's get reviews from down-under on films that are already on DVD here! My grandmother was Australian, so I can disparage their way of life freely.
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It's that whole being conscious of walking on a tightrope amid a bottomless black abyss thing I was talking about yesterday.
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It's dead as a doornail over there... can someone tell me what Krod is first though? Do I want to be associated with said Krod?
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Pick one and we’ll leave a forwarding address….
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For KROD!!!!!Bamf!!!!
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We can BAMF, but it won't be really real unless he goes all Boddicker on the place.
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You're kidding me, right? 900 posts in a day? ...March 26th, 2010 ...Vades is prepping two new short films. ...'Lop's just not that into Spielberg, Mann, Ridley, Cameron or Wes Anderson. ...Ess adds 10 more "Close-Seconds" to her list of favorite films. (http://tinyurl.com/yb6y5gj) ...I think Vades gets Neils Diamond and Young mixed up, but it's hard to tell. ...How funny would it have been if the great actor Warren Oates had named his son Hallen? Not that funny? ...WALL-E stands up to 347 views, according to Ess and Li'l Ess. ...Vades can have any kind of haircut he wants, as long as he keeps up the bench-pressing and pec-decking. ...vanilla clears up the COMMANDO/DIE-HARD confusion. Turns out the novel "Nothing Lasts Forever" was the basis for a COMMANDO sequel, but when Ahnold backed out, the script was re-written into DIE-HARD. Also, he tells the other Vader that five weeks without woo-woo is nothing compared to some droughts experienced by married couples with kids. Plus, he's surprised none of the male Peebers had the Italian sex-bombs Bellucci, Loren, Lollobrigida, or Evangelista on their DO-lists, so, like Daffy Duck before him, he says, "Gah!" ...Teddy's glad indie comics are starting to get movie love. ...Rapper Sage Francis offers some career advise. (http://tinyurl.com/yz47pgk) ...Jalopnik.com on Steve McQueen (http://tinyurl.com/yhhhjxk) ...spud acclaims CLOSE ENCOUNTERS' magnificence. ...Colon-El steps up with Kubrick love and busts The Pope. (http://tinyurl.com/y9bkyb6) ...Sixies wants vanilla's Devil Tower tee-shirt. ...vanilla echos the defense of Kubrick. And, he links us to two very cool stop-motion animations: BUNNY (http://tinyurl.com/ydxms2p) and MADAME TUTLI-PUTLI (http://tinyurl.com/y9acgf3) ...Ess expresses the "usual female reaction" to CLOCKWORK ORANGE, due to its explicit sexual violence. ...The Capitalists have begun to bully theaters over 3D screenings by threatening to take away the 2D and requiring a 20% increase in admission price. ...An idiot Tea-Bagger (wait, that's redundant) - A Tea-Bagger uses his car as a weapon, forcing a man with an Obama/Biden '08 bumper sticker off the road. (http://tinyurl.com/yefy5f8) ...Art Vs. Business! Patrons Vs. Patronizers! Communication Vs. Commerce! Designers Vs. Illustrators Vs. Painters in a No-Holds-Barred Three-Way Death Match! With Chainsaws! Money and Chicks Vs. Creation and Expression! Horace Vs. The Romans! ...STL's daughter understands. ...Wait, did 'Lop just call me a cave-man? ...Everybody who saw [deleted] in IMAX paid at least double for it. Everybody who saw it in Digital 3D paid anywhere from $2 to $5 above standard admission price. Anybody who saw it in 2D at matinee discount paid at least $3 more than it was worth. Who says the price wasn't artificially jacked? ...Mac claims BREAKIN' exerted a confusing influence on 10 year-old boys, forcing them to choose between "the coolness of parachute pants and the gayness of a half shirt. Looking back..prepubescent kids in the 80's must have been the most unintentionally gay people ever." ...RAD, a cheesy 80s teen-independence-through-BMX movie (http://tinyurl.com/29j8e2) ...vanilla sneaks his DO-list in, thinking no one will notice he's got Queen Latifah on it. ...Flick wore his parachute pants until he'd outgrown them to the point of "ballsack cameltoe." ...'moose is smitten with TV's "Parenthood," streaming on Hulu. ...Fred's_Balls stops by after a long, long absense and tentatively sticks up for Ben Roethlisberger, NFL quarterback accused, for a second time, of sexual assault. Come back soon, when your co-workers aren't peeping your cube, Freddy!...vanilla backs me up on the artificial inflation of 3D's price. The cost of making a 3D movie - yeah, even Cameron's extra-special, eye-raping way, for those of you who insist you can distinguish a difference within a dimension - isn't any more than the cost of your over-budgeted 2D blockbuster. Since it often costs less to do things on computer than with practical effects, the cost will actually decrease, relatively-speaking. You think they'll start discounting movie admissions when they don't have to pay to build sets or hire make-up and effects technicians? ...Bailing hay for big arms and High School status ...The "Dark-Sided" lady gets an encore (http://tinyurl.com/6efgdh) ...Col.'s buddy is blogging his experiences trying to get a novel written and published (http://tinyurl.com/y9lpwy2) ...Stabby agrees, Adam West IS Batman. 'Lop doesn't like "Harley Quinn" as The Joker's sidekick because he doesn't think The Joker should have a sidekick. I don't know about Marvel villains that would fit in Batman's comic-book world, but I see a lot of Batman influence in movie villains like "Anton Chigurh," "John Doe," and "Hannibal Lechter." ...Yack, 'Lop and I are blase on BLADE RUNNER. Rutger Hauer, in BLADE RUNNER, causes Flick to contemplate the eternal abyss. ...Noir, like mist, is all around you, but you can't grasp it. ...Ted is off to see an EVIL DEAD triple-feature. ...Mac's new catch-phrase: LET'S GET DICKING! ...BRICK: teen-agers trying hard to be noirish and failing. But Ess liked the dialogue and Joseph Gordon Levitt. ...Winky @ finky! Returning after a long, long, long absence and tracking through multiple BAMF!s, finky bonds with Flick over "Watership Down" references. ...Flick, Mac & Cheeses brain-storm a new cable dramedy called "Toots & Stoner," featuring a sex-starved female BATF agent with daddy issues and her neighbor whose, um, knowledge of, um, substance abuse is of invaluable assistance. With 70s conspiracies and kung-fu! Afros! Sexual tension! (Nah, guys - that's an 80s, MOONLIGHTING thing. There was no sexual tension in The 70s. There were unbuttoned shirts, hairy chests, and independent women in form-fitting sweaters gaining their equality while looking hot and feathered.) Drug trafficking! Guns! ("Why's her name Toots," asks finky, "Is it because of the flatulence?") Tight jeans! Hippies! Rock -n- roll, man! "Where your favorite 70s show faded out to commercial...we're just getting started!" ...Alyssa Milano as a dancing teen, exercising with the girls, wearing spandex, and fantasizing about leather, dark rooms and Corey Haim. (vimeo.com/10424980) ...What happened to Mac's "Casting The Pedalback" at The Archives? Ess wants to be Pink. ...Yack says HOT TUB TIME MACHINE is very funny. ...Mac laughed a lot while watching BLACK DYNAMITE and plans on watching it again real soon. ..."Howdy, howdy, howdy," says vanilla, imitating "Woody," and reminding Yack of pissing through a woody. ..."Toots & Stoner" reminds Col. of "Inherent Vice," a novel by Thomas Pynchon. ...Learn to speak Na'Vi so you can interpret Ess and vanilla flirting with each other. ...Pfeiffer's Catwoman outfit and Jamie Kennedy's sneakers have never been mentioned in the same post until now! ...Some future grad school douchebag is gonna have to sort all this out. ...Jamie Kennedy's a bit of a fuckstick. Who wooda thunk? ...Chris Tucker? ...Cheeses' teats? ..."Fox in Socks?" ...Yack reviews POINT BLANK. (http://tinyurl.com/yc7xngx), and The Los Angeles Times links to his blog. (http://bit.ly/aJkpmX) ...Flick, go to bed, now, or you'll regret it in the morning. LET'S GET DICKING!!! -
...we're BAMF'ing to 44359, BTW...
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