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Louis Leterrier Officially In The Running To Assemble THE AVENGERS!

Beaks here...

I just finished an interview with CLASH OF THE TITANS director Louis Leterrier, and, wouldn't you know it, the topic of him directing THE AVENGERS came up! Now, Leterrier has lobbied in the past for the gig, but I'm pretty sure today is the first time he's revealed that he is on Marvel Studios' official shortlist to helm the big superhero soiree geeks have been clamoring for since Nick Fury's surprise cameo at the end of IRON MAN. Here's what he had to say:
"I am on the shortlist, but I'm at the bottom of the shortlist, I'm sure. (Laughs) I don't know who the other guys are, but I have a great relationship with [Marvel], and I've been very vocal to them and everyone else that I am the one to direct it. I loved my time at Marvel. I loved those guys. They're fantastic. Kevin is such a passionate boss; he gets his hands dirty. It's a universe I want to keep exploring. I was frustrated with [THE INCREDIBLE HULK]. It was like, "That's it? Only one superhero? Can I do more???" We'll see. Time will tell."

As for "the other guys" in the running, feel free to speculate. Jon Favreau took himself out of the running last October. Of the directors who've been directly involved in Marvel's run-up to THE AVENGERS, this leaves Leterrier, Kenneth Branagh (THOR) and Joe Johnston (THE FIRST AVENGER: CAPTAIN AMERICA). I suppose you could include Edgar Wright (ANT-MAN) and Zak Penn (who's writing THE AVENGERS) as well. Any favorites out of that group? I have one, but I very selfishly don't want to lose him to franchise filmmaking. Also, he has a very specific style that might clash with Marvel's insistence on a somewhat cohesive sensibility. Finally, there's the very real possibility that Marvel's shortlist includes a director or two who has yet to work with the studio. In the meantime, Leterrier's CLASH OF THE TITANS will Bubo your brains out on April 2nd.

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  • March 20, 2010, 7:16 p.m. CST

    Just posting to...

    by kisskissbangbang

    keep someone from crying "First!". You're welcome.

  • March 20, 2010, 7:18 p.m. CST

    As long as I'm here...

    by kisskissbangbang

    I'd favor someone else over any of the directors mentioned.

  • March 20, 2010, 7:21 p.m. CST

    because The Incredible Hulk was such a classic:

    by pencil-man

    I will officially stop watching Marvel movies because of the mediocrity they evolve into after the real talent has moved on.

  • March 20, 2010, 7:22 p.m. CST

    I liked the Incredible Hulk

    by liljuniorbrown

    I think,depending on how Clash turns out, he might be right for the job. He has the action side of it down. His style is fast paced but not over board like Bay. Good for him, hell I think most of us just want the fucking movie to make sense and turn out right. I can't see the guy they got for Thor making that happen.

  • March 20, 2010, 7:24 p.m. CST

    sold already

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    He would be a pretty good choice.As long as they pair with good writing,sold!

  • March 20, 2010, 7:24 p.m. CST

    sold already

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    He would be a pretty good choice.As long as they pair with good writing,sold!

  • March 20, 2010, 7:24 p.m. CST

    sold already

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    He would be a pretty good choice.As long as they pair with good writing,sold!

  • March 20, 2010, 7:24 p.m. CST

    sold already

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    He would be a pretty good choice.As long as they pair with good writing,sold!

  • March 20, 2010, 7:25 p.m. CST

    sold already

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    He would be a pretty good choice.As long as they pair with good writing,sold!

  • March 20, 2010, 7:25 p.m. CST

    sold already

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    He would be a pretty good choice.As long as they pair with good writing,sold!

  • March 20, 2010, 7:25 p.m. CST

    sold already

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    He would be a pretty good choice.As long as they pair with good writing,sold!

  • March 20, 2010, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Avengers assemble!

    by djdark01

    He has passion for the material. Maybe he's the right guy for the job.

  • March 20, 2010, 7:27 p.m. CST

    it's almost a shame Guillermo del Toro is doing Hobbit

    by irc-Hollywood

    otherwise id want him for this. ANYWAY, my pick for director... Quentin Tarantino... it would never happen, but a man can dream.

  • March 20, 2010, 7:27 p.m. CST


    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    Sorry for the repeat bs.thanks boostmobile.

  • March 20, 2010, 7:33 p.m. CST

    Tarantino Avengers. Oh hell yes.

    by UltimaRex

    This guy is good but QT'd be awesome.

  • March 20, 2010, 7:34 p.m. CST

    I still like 3/4 of Ang Lee's Hulk better

    by Phategod2

    What if the movie was Directed by all 4 guys? is that possible? would it make sense. I say when in doubt hire James Cameron.

  • March 20, 2010, 7:38 p.m. CST

    AWESOME news!

    by california_mtz

    Louis did a GREAT job on The Incredible Hulk. It has aged and now I read on fansites everywhere how it is the favorite comic book movie among so many people. He is so passionate and does a great job with the Marvel Universe.<p>He even wanted to include more easter eggs in hulk like having 'Columbia University' (where Peter Parker attends college) but Sony wouldn't let him. With Feige, Favreau, and Leterrie, the Avengers couldn't miss!

  • March 20, 2010, 7:38 p.m. CST

    Could be worse...

    by Ribbons

    ...Leterrier wouldn't be my first choice, and I'd rather see Marvel go after somebody new, but he's a pretty solid director. If Leterrier ends up getting the job it wouldn't be terrible news.

  • March 20, 2010, 7:40 p.m. CST

    Since Marvel Studios is CHEAP,...

    by Thanos0145

    their short list won't have any names that jump out at you. Fav's would've been my pick if he didn't pull his name.

  • March 20, 2010, 7:45 p.m. CST

    Mel Gibsons The Avengers

    by liljuniorbrown

    The battle scenes would blow our minds. Thor's hammer in slow motion destroying the skull of some alien threat like a Skrull super soilder.... fucking awesome. I think this guy seems to love the material enough to where it wouldn't be a bad choice.

  • March 20, 2010, 7:45 p.m. CST

    There's something about leterrier

    by pjdon

    At first I thought Incredible Hulk was fairly bland but them i found it becoming one of those films I watched repeatedly. I've grown to really love it, there is a great atmosphere of fun about it and Roth rocks in it. And Unleashed (or Danny The Dog to give it it's original title) has the same atmosphere and also has real heart. It's also one of Jet Li's best films both action and acting wise. I'm fairly optimistic about Clash and if it also meets my expectations i'll be voting for him to helm the Avengers.

  • March 20, 2010, 7:48 p.m. CST


    by ORIONgods

    i want tim story for this. he is perfect for a superhero movie

  • March 20, 2010, 7:51 p.m. CST

    I prefer Ang Lee's Hulk by a mile...

    by theneonsamurai

    ..but I did thoroughly enjoy Danny The Dog and Clash of the Titans looks great.

  • March 20, 2010, 7:53 p.m. CST

    At least Marvel is STILL Making SOME right choices.

    by SamBlackChvrch21

    Chris Evans is just such a bad idea for Cap. Not even best of the list that they had. Hulk was enjoyable enough and perhaps this might help lure Ed Norton back. Just cast age appropriate to the other characters. RDJ and Norton are good templates age wise.

  • March 20, 2010, 7:53 p.m. CST

    he wants it just give it

    by shamon

    his passion for this will make it work plus he has good relations .

  • March 20, 2010, 7:57 p.m. CST

    im in the running too.

    by alice133

    i run cheap.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Train wreck

    by enderandrew

    I thought the consensus was that his Hulk film was a train wreck, and that he fought with Norton the whole time on how to shoot it, and edit it. My only guess is that they'd bring him back because the studio knows they can bully him and have full control of the film.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:06 p.m. CST

    The Incredible Hulk was fun.

    by lotharius3rd1118

    And a hundred times better than the Ang Lee abortion with a similar title. Unleashed is certainly one of Jet Li's best (I still have a thing for Fist of Legend.) Clash of the Titans looks terrific. I think this guy can pull it off, though I'd love to see someone with a little more edge, like say Christophe Gans.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:09 p.m. CST

    good, but... bad blood...

    by ahdvd

    Wasnt there a lot of bad blood between him and Norton on the increadible hulk? So that would probably preclude Norton's return to the Avenger's movie to appear as Banner, which probably would also mean no Hulk :(

  • March 20, 2010, 8:10 p.m. CST

    James Cameron FTW!

    by Tall_Boy66

    Just put him on and all the actors and make the film cost an even billion dollars. It'd make it back. Possibly double.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:19 p.m. CST

    This could be..

    by ShogunMaster

    George Lucas' triumphant return!! Or is he still working on low budget movies like the sequel to Howard the Duck? <p> Lea Thompson shot first!!

  • March 20, 2010, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Leterrier's Incredible Hulk...

    by qweruiop

    ...definitely good, had the potential to be so much better. One can definitely tell that there were a lot of character-growing scenes left out of the film, probably not by Leterrier/Norton but by the studio to prevent drawbacks to Ang Lee's film (and to get more revenue from more showtimes). For example the deleted scene in the DVD involving Ross telling Blonsky how the super-soldier program came about. Great details there were left out of the film, like Ross allowing Banner to test the formula on himself, and how the program was going great until his superiors (Senators) decided to pull the plug, and so on.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:22 p.m. CST

    Re: Incredible Hulk

    by steele8280

    I'm another one of those who went in to see his Hulk with moderate expectations, had to see it again, and then again a few times on dvd. It's become (one of) my favourite Marvel-movies (not superhero, Batman Begins is better). Nowadays, the Spider-Man movies (2&3 in particular) seem forced too often, Iron Man just tries to stay out of the way of RDJ (it's rocks, don't get me wrong) and let's not mention F4. But how they managed to get a movie about an angst-ridden character seem exciting and fun, while making Edward Norton likeable (sorry but Eric Bana was bland in Ang Lee's version) is an achievement in itself. It takes the audience seriously, but manages to be playful. It was cooky enough to stay light and had enough weight to keep us connected. Or that's just me. But if I had to pick one to see again, it would be Leterrier's Hulk (followed by Iron Man). Which is a long way of saying that depending on how Clash of the Titans turns out, I can see myself getting excited about him doing Avengers!

  • March 20, 2010, 8:24 p.m. CST

    Screw Ed Norton bring back Bana...

    by thecomedian

    Ed Norton does that on every other film he works on. He's a great actor but he's not worth the hassle. If he's gonna be a pain in the ass on Avengers I say just bring Eric Bana back and have ILM bring their Hulk back too.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:27 p.m. CST

    Ang Lee's Hulk SUCKS!

    by F-18

    All evidence of its existence should be destroyed and that memory erasing thing from Mem In Black should be used to erase the horrible memory of it.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:28 p.m. CST

    typo correction

    by F-18

    Men In Black

  • March 20, 2010, 8:28 p.m. CST

    One thing Leterrier might bring to the table...

    by Ribbons Edward Norton, actually. Leterrier and Norton got along pretty well (in fact I think there was a recent interview with Norton where he says that he "loved the guy"), and due to the friction between Norton and Marvel/Universal as a result of the Harvey Scissorhands approach they took to "talky" scenes in The Incredible Hulk, hiring Leterrier might be the best chance they have of getting Norton back. Then again, we're talking about the studio that cut Terrence Howard loose for Iron Man 2, and practically lowballed Mickey Rourke and Sam Jackson out of the film as well, so continuity probably isn't one of their primary concerns.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:28 p.m. CST

    Ang Lee's version sucks donkey balls.

    by lotharius3rd1118

    I really like how they didn't do a reboot though and retell the origin. They treated as a sequel, but with an entirely different style and approach to the material. I'm glad that they didn't do some stupid shit like Ang Lee's split-screen panel style shots. God those shots annoy the shit out of me.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:32 p.m. CST

    I've had a real bad feeling

    by Hercules

    about The Avengers movie since Favreau said no to directing.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:37 p.m. CST


    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

    LL is okay in my book. The Bixby tribute in Hulk is endeared me to him.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:38 p.m. CST

    This is the worst Idea I've heard yet. L.L sucks ASS.

    by Ganymede3001

    And his Hulk fucking sucked.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:40 p.m. CST


    by enderandrew

    They don't have a script or anything, but I thought Favs objection was the supernatural elements they want to bring in with Thor. Favs didn't want those elements to exist in his Iron Man universe, and if Favs did Avengers, he would be forced to merge the two. It isn't like they have a script for The Avengers yet. In fact, if the script minimized the supernatual aspects, Favs might beg to do it.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:41 p.m. CST

    yeah it could be worse

    by Nerd Rage

    It could've been Joe Johnston. That dude is a box office death omen. I'll reserve judgment until I've seen Clash of the Titans which looks to be better than the Incredible Hulk. As of now, I'm on the fence.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:42 p.m. CST

    How to the do The Hulk

    by enderandrew

    I have zero sympathy and empathy for a "hero" that doesn't look remotely human. Both CGI Hulks they partially based off animals. They both looked silly. Emotionally, I check out. I didn't even watch the second film, despite Norton being one of my favorite actors.<p>The real secret is to honestly do an honest to goodness human actor, and either do height tricks (like Lord of the Rings) to make him look taller, or just use CGI to resize the human captured footage.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Ang Lee's Hulk fucking rocked.

    by Ganymede3001

    The only thing I didn't care for was the third act. Everything before that was fucking spectacular.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:42 p.m. CST

    i too wonder why favreau removed himself

    by smudgewhat

    it's not a great sign

  • March 20, 2010, 8:43 p.m. CST

    No too sure about Leterrier...Here is why...

    by Nuking the Fridge

    This might be a small point to others, but for me it is a big deal.<p>If Leterrier is going to fuck up The Abomination, and not give him ears(come on, Abomination has distinct ears). I shudder to think what other small (but important) details he will miss in doing such a huge undertaking like "The Avengers".<p>I really do not think he is the man for the job. <p>I mean Perseus in Clash of the Titans with a military buzz cut?<p> Bring in James Cameron(I am serious).

  • March 20, 2010, 8:44 p.m. CST


    by enderandrew

    He said in interviews exactly why he wanted out of Avengers. He didn't want to force supernatural elements into the universe he started with Iron Man. Was it LL who said The Avengers should be more like an HBO mini-series with each director doing an hour long chapter?

  • March 20, 2010, 8:46 p.m. CST

    I agree, Edgar Wright getting tied up

    by seppukudkurosawa

    in these movies for several years would be a bummer. Personally, the whole Universe perplexes me, and I've read a fair few of these things. Why do comics have to be so self-referential? Even the best superhero comics- Top Ten, Doom Patrol, Astro City etc.- are all totally 100% obsessed with giving nods to past superheroes. Enough, already!

  • March 20, 2010, 8:47 p.m. CST

    My guess on why Favreau resigned

    by Hercules

    (which he'll refute with his dying breath): Marvel execs decided they know more about filmmaking than Favreau does.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:49 p.m. CST


    by enderandrew

    Google up "Favreau Avengers Supernatural" and see tons of news outlets all citing the same sort of statements.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:49 p.m. CST

    FUCK AND YES....we should be so lucky

    by Jobacca

    His HULK was pretty damn good,and I BELIEVE I heard Favreau say he would be willing to consult with whoever wound up directing the Avengers flick. No matter what you thought of his HULK,LL has a deep love of the Marvel universe and obviously respects the fans and the history. He's got my vote.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:51 p.m. CST

    This should be a SPIKE LEE JOINT!!!!

    by stefan2789

    they need to change it up, think outside the box! maybe not spike though...

  • March 20, 2010, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Nerd Rage

    by ahdvd

    Leave Joe Johnston alone, who would be worse? Russel Fucking Mulcahy. Paul Fucking Anderson, i'de take Joe Johnston anyday, so long as the story is well written, he will deliver a good movie.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:54 p.m. CST

    IH is more rewatchable than IM.

    by DidntPullOutInTimeCop

    Leterrier wouldn't be a bad choice for Avengers.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:56 p.m. CST

    Kathryn Bigelow?

    by Leto III

    Seriously, she's probably already gotten a few franchise scripts thrown her way in the past couple of weeks...

  • March 20, 2010, 8:56 p.m. CST

    My guess why Favreau passed on Avengers...

    by Chewtoy

    The Nick Fury scenes he had to shoe-horn into Iron Man 2 didn't fit, and it's partly because the character is one they threw into the first movie rather than designing him to be part of the same world. (Tell me how he at all seems to be from the same organization as the SHIELD agents from Iron Man 1). Realizing that Avengers is going to be nothing but a bunch of characters that weren't created by any singular directorial vision, he felt he didn't want the headaches of trying to make it all work.<br><br>Honestly, though, I obviously have no real idea though. Never met anyone involved.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:58 p.m. CST


    by Hercules

    I'm fully aware of what the great Jon Favreau says. And what he means.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:58 p.m. CST

    I already said it in another topic

    by ominus

    Avengers is a project which is impossible to be done,not in the way that Marvel wants which is about a unified movie universe,just like in their comics.I am sorry but cinema is not the same like comics,and such things are very difficult to work in films,especially when you want the same actors to play in all those numerous movies for the rest of their lives. <p>Marvel either focus on making an awesome trilogy Avengers movie from the ground,without taking into consideration at all what happens to the rest of your movies or wait for the Avatar technology to mature a bit more and create the Avengers cross-over movie you so much wish,by digitizing and using the stars of the other franchises,so you dont have to care about schedules,release dates,directors or stars who dont want to participate in the project and so on. <p>Try to do the Avengers the way you want right now,and it will be a disaster.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:58 p.m. CST

    Herc read enderandrew's comment.

    by DidntPullOutInTimeCop

    I wouldn't wan Favreau directing Avengers after that comment. It would be more like "Iron Man and his super friends". Iron Man realistic... yea...

  • March 20, 2010, 9:03 p.m. CST

    Ang Lee's Hulk was boring and unfocused

    by Nerd Rage

    I remember sitting in the theater thinking "c'mon dude use the edit button, your pacing is horrible". I probably checked my watch 7 times. I like drama that builds up to the climax but in Hulk it just drags and goes nowhere over and over again. And the movie didn't know what it wanted to be; meditative sci-fi, indie art film, contemporary Greek tragedy, or b-grade action flick. A total mess. I would describe it as a noble failure if it wasn't so fucking frustrating to watch. The Incredible Hulk is painfully average but at least it keeps you interested and entertained.

  • March 20, 2010, 9:04 p.m. CST


    by enderandrew

    You could be correct, since we're discussing apparently off the record motives. However, if he didn't like working with Marvel execs, why come back for Iron Man 2? Why ask them to move The Avengers dates so he could possibly do that film as well?<p>His comments on the record do seem to make sense. Even after working with Marvel, he really wanted to do The Avengers. After seeing what they were doing with Thor, he didn't want to do it so much anymore.

  • March 20, 2010, 9:04 p.m. CST

    by Kirby and Ditko

    I still want Tom Hanks directing a Marvel Movie, be it Fantastic Four or Avengers. He is a huge Marvel fan, knows his way around visual effects, and did a fine job with That Thing You Do!

  • March 20, 2010, 9:06 p.m. CST

    Actually really into the Tarantino idea...

    by DanielKurland

    It won't happen, but I can definitely see him not being into it, but having SO much fun with it all.

  • March 20, 2010, 9:07 p.m. CST

    hm a new Hulk movie with the Avatar technology

    by ominus

    might work.His cgi character will have soul this time.why Marvel doesnt try to reboot it again and try this option? ;)

  • March 20, 2010, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Love Tarantino, but no on Avengers...

    by br1947

    just not a fit with him & his style. Deadpool? That'd work! Lobo? Oh fuck yes! That's what is needed for a great Lobo flick, QT & Rob Zombie. It'd be the craziest, most violent thing ever put to film and it'd be perfect

  • March 20, 2010, 9:08 p.m. CST

    Ang Lee's interpretation of the Hulk, Sucked!

    by Amadeo Zeller

    It was too slow and I felt he (Ang) over-thought the character. I mean, lets' be honest, The Incredible Hulk was not one of Marvels' (more) cerebral properties.<p> Louis Leterrier's version was more spot on and added less un-needed angst and drama...So in closing, I wouldn't object to his directing the Avengers if Marvel offers him the assignment. Just don't give it to the guy who directed Daredevil & Ghostrider...Now talk about inept.

  • March 20, 2010, 9:08 p.m. CST


    by enderandrew

    He is all style, no substance, and he forces lengthy dialog into places it doesn't belong. He loves to deconstruct other genres. I know he thinks about superhero films, but I wouldn't trust him with a tent-pole superhero film for an existing franchise. Instead, let him invent a new hero (ala Hancock) and tell his own story.

  • March 20, 2010, 9:08 p.m. CST

    Favs. Not the choice

    by Phategod2

    Because he doesn't Like Thor And I'd hate for Thor to be the movies "Venom"

  • March 20, 2010, 9:09 p.m. CST

    And something else.After the second flop of Hulk

    by ominus

    Marvel is not so keen to put him in the Avengers movie.See? The problems have already started for this project,its not just that Favreau (wisely) refused to participate in the project,because his own realistic movie universe,contradicts the fantasy universe of the Avengers movie.

  • March 20, 2010, 9:10 p.m. CST

    QT and Cowboy Bebop

    by enderandrew

    Keanu Reeves keeps begging to get this film made. That would be an interesting fit with QT.

  • March 20, 2010, 9:10 p.m. CST

    My apologies, that should read...

    by DanielKurland

    I can definitely see him BEING into it.

  • March 20, 2010, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Whats Doug Liman doing these days

    by Nerd Rage

    The Bourne Identity and Mr & Mrs. Smith. The guy knows how to do action movies. His first superhero movie is long overdue. Same goes for Alfonso Cuaron who I wish got the Spidey reboot.

  • March 20, 2010, 9:11 p.m. CST

    It should be someone new to marvel/the characters

    by ahdvd

    Chewtoy makes a good point, It shouldnt be favreau, leterrier, brannagh, or johnston as they are all getting to know their individual characters in the solo projects they are doing, they will already be too established with their solo character and the others in the final movie will feel tacked on.

  • March 20, 2010, 9:18 p.m. CST



    ... has stated recently that he wanted to direct either The Avengers or Superman... seeing that Chris Nolan's baby bro may be directing Supes, I'd say that leaves only one franchise available... Vaughn aside, I say let's reserve our judgment on Leterrier (well or ill) until after Clash of the Titans is released... "RELEASE THE KRAKEN!"

  • March 20, 2010, 9:19 p.m. CST

    I blame the weakness of The Incredible Hulk

    by Nerd Rage

    on the writers. There were no clever or classic moments. The movie simply goes through the motions. It gets the character right for the most part but doesn't have anything memorable or quotable that makes you want to see it again.

  • March 20, 2010, 9:20 p.m. CST

    Hey Herc...


    ... what would you say if I said "Sarah Palin for Wasp" in the Avengers flick?

  • March 20, 2010, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Nerd Rage...


    ... one of the writers for The Incredible Hulk was Zak Penn... and the writer for The Avengers is... ZAK PENN! OH, SHIT!!!

  • March 20, 2010, 9:24 p.m. CST

    If only we could clone James Cameron

    by Nerd Rage

    I'd give him X-men and Avengers in addition to his already planned projects. I just don't see most directors giving Avengers the huge scale it need to fulfill it's potential as a hyper-battle epic.

  • March 20, 2010, 9:25 p.m. CST

    a suitable director should be someone who

    by ominus

    has already made at least one good action movie which is about Soddenberg who made Oceans 11 and its sequels,he has a lot of experience with a lot of characters in a story.Singer made the x-men women and did a fine job with their teams.who else? Mctiernan,Cameron and Spielberg are old dogs so we ignore them.If the director of Predators makes a good film,he should be a fine candidate.anyone else?

  • March 20, 2010, 9:27 p.m. CST

    Nerd Rage please dont steal my ideas

    by ominus

    I said the exact same thing in an older talkback :D

  • March 20, 2010, 9:27 p.m. CST

    yeah QT is perfect for Cowboy Bebop

    by ominus

    i hope Reeves convinces him to do it.

  • March 20, 2010, 9:27 p.m. CST


    by blogintomystery

    I'm still entertained by Favreau's "realistic" reasons. Don't get me wrong, I love his Iron Man. Love it. But I'm just as inclined to think of an Asgardian God with a magic hammer as realistic as I am a man flying around the world in a suit of armor he built in his basement. Granted, it was the greatest basement in the history of the universe, but still...And Marvel could do a lot worse than LL. He's even got magic comic book initials.

  • March 20, 2010, 9:30 p.m. CST

    blog exoskeletons are in development

    by ominus

    right now that we are talking.Ofc they dont resemble the armor but in the far future they might.

  • March 20, 2010, 9:32 p.m. CST


    by SquireWamba

    he'd probably say "Tina Fey for the Wasp."

  • March 20, 2010, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Charisma Carpenter for Wasp...

    by Amadeo Zeller

    afterall, the Janet Pym character requires someone who has experience in playing a bourgeois air-headed debutaunt.

  • March 20, 2010, 9:50 p.m. CST

    Japanese exoskeletons

    by enderandrew

    It is pretty unrealistic that the armor is all but impervious, and yet he can fly and maneuver so well. That being said, I've said tourists renting Japanese exoskeletons today, that help you walk around and lift items.

  • March 20, 2010, 9:50 p.m. CST

    Charisma Carpenter..

    by djdark01

    .. is starting to wear her age. I think she's almost 40. This is based from her apperance in Legend of the Seeker at the start of season 2.

  • March 20, 2010, 9:53 p.m. CST


    by Amadeo Zeller

    Oh, I haven't seen her lately. Oh well, back to the speculative casting drawing board.

  • March 20, 2010, 9:53 p.m. CST

    He made The Incredible Hulk work smashingly

    by SoylentMean

    and I can't wait to see his Clash of the Titans. I'm just still kinda overwhelmed that this whole Avengers thing is actualy going to happen. Who ever thought that would actually see the light of day? Not me. I said good luck, and if he gets it I'll be happy.

  • March 20, 2010, 9:55 p.m. CST

    Oh God no, he is #2 in mediocre past Johnston

    by reflecto

    No no no no no no. His Hulk was tired.

  • March 20, 2010, 9:56 p.m. CST

    am i the only one?

    by darth_ghidorah85

    that prefers batman begins to the dark knight?!?!? does anyone else feel the same way?

  • March 20, 2010, 9:58 p.m. CST

    I say give it to Bigelow, Blomkamp or Matthew Vaughn

    by reflecto

    My same choices for most things.

  • March 20, 2010, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Oh, and I think Zak Penn is a hack

    by reflecto

  • March 20, 2010, 10:02 p.m. CST

    to liljuniorbrown

    by exador

    'the guy they got to direct Thor'... that would be Kenneth Branagh right? If you haven't seen 'Henry V' i suggest you take a look...he directed that, and it's brilliant... now, he directed it a long time ago, and I haven't seen him do a superhero movie, but I'd gamble on him....Henry V is still one of my all time favourite movies....

  • March 20, 2010, 10:04 p.m. CST

    How about David Yates?

    by djdark01

    He knows how to do ensemble movies

  • March 20, 2010, 10:14 p.m. CST

    David Yates has surprised me

    by lotharius3rd1118

    with the Harry Potter movies he's done. He has the potential to pull something off. That's a good call, djdark01. I wish I had thought of it.

  • March 20, 2010, 10:17 p.m. CST

    David Yates

    by djdark01

    I'm sure that WB will ask him to do one of their superhero movies soon. We'll see what happens.

  • March 20, 2010, 10:19 p.m. CST

    TOP CHOICE: James Cameron #2: Favreau #3: Peter Jackson

    by JDanielP

    Any one of these gentlemen would be INCREDIBLE news!

  • March 20, 2010, 10:20 p.m. CST

    kathryn bigelow

    by darth_ghidorah85

    should direct wonder woman with a script by joss whedon

  • March 20, 2010, 10:21 p.m. CST

    David Yates... interesting choice...

    by Ribbons

    ...he's proven that he can juggle big-budgets, big casts, and worlds both real and magical pretty deftly. After 5 years of directing Harry Potter movies he might want to take a break, but that's a pretty smart suggestion, djdark.

  • March 20, 2010, 10:22 p.m. CST

    and while im on it...

    by darth_ghidorah85

    ive always been obsessed with wonder woman just cause of the iconography, but her comics are generally not known for great story arcs....unless one of you fine aicn peers could enlighten me on some good ww trades. :)

  • March 20, 2010, 10:24 p.m. CST

    I wish people would stop mentioning James Cameron.

    by lotharius3rd1118

    It's not like a studio chief is gonna go, "Oh shit. Jimmy Cameron. Why didn't I think of that? He's perfect." Back in the day, he may have done Spidey, but he's out of the running today. Take a chance, people. Mention someone who doesn't already have a solid geek cred. Somebody realistic.

  • March 20, 2010, 10:27 p.m. CST


    by DidntPullOutInTimeCop

    Yeah comparing the exoskeletons in development now to Iron Man's suit is like comparing a jackhammer with Mjölner. Don't forget Tony's magic power pacemaker and the soon to come transformer super suit in a briefcase.

  • March 20, 2010, 10:28 p.m. CST

    I think the freakiest thing about the Avengers

    by lotharius3rd1118

    from a director's point of view, is that you have all these other characters who have already been set up in other films. You have to adapt the style of those previous films to fit a unified world and also find a way to own it with your own style. This is almost too daunting a task for a director. Someone is needed with an incredibly sharp focus. I don't envy the person who gets this job, and if it's LL, I wish him luck. He's got a lot of goodwill from me going with him, but there's a hell of a twisted road ahead.

  • March 20, 2010, 10:28 p.m. CST

    Speaking of Wonder Woman...

    by djdark01

  • March 20, 2010, 10:31 p.m. CST

    bridget regan

    by darth_ghidorah85

    dont know who she is but she damnwell looks the part!

  • March 20, 2010, 10:32 p.m. CST

    I wonder how many of the people the love Ang's Hulk...

    by Jared_Syn_City

    I never got this about fan boys. Some praise Ang Lee's Hulk, which changed everything about a classic character - The origin, the powers (He grows when he gets more mad!), the Hulk Dogs, Thunderbolt Ross, his father.... I mean Ang threw everything away abut this character. And made a crap movie. Crap. Hulk vs Lightning Dad? Hulk encased in super foam? Changed everything that made the Hulk cool. and these are the same people the have 24 heart attacks that there is no squid in Watchmen.

  • March 20, 2010, 10:36 p.m. CST

    I would be in terror with the task of directing the Avengers

    by future help

    complete TERROR. Cameron would be a good choice. Tarantino? hmmmm. maybe. Genndy T of Samurai Jack and Brad Bird together? YES.

  • March 20, 2010, 10:37 p.m. CST

    Fixed link for WW

    by djdark01

  • March 20, 2010, 10:37 p.m. CST

    opps, guess I can't fix it.

    by djdark01

    breaks it up for some reason

  • March 20, 2010, 10:38 p.m. CST

    so who's playing Thor?


  • March 20, 2010, 10:44 p.m. CST

    so who plays spider-girl?


  • March 20, 2010, 11:12 p.m. CST

    He knows how a super-soldier moves

    by Adelai Niska

  • March 20, 2010, 11:19 p.m. CST

    NOT happy with Louis as a choice.

    by future help

    For the record.

  • March 20, 2010, 11:21 p.m. CST

    Too bad...

    by NorseFire

    That they can't give it to Nolan. Really interested to see what he'll manage in regards to DC. Like Bigelow but I don't think she'd do it. James Cameron is too showy and it will take ten years. Blomkamp's an interesting choice though. God, I just wish that Nolan could do this one too.

  • March 20, 2010, 11:22 p.m. CST

    And am I the only one that didn't like TIH?

    by NorseFire

    I thought the pacing sucked.

  • March 20, 2010, 11:40 p.m. CST

    OK, here's my pick.

    by garymwalker

    Talking of someone I don't want to lose to franchise film making. Spike Jonze. Just watched I'm here and Being John Malkovich again. I have no way of knowing how he'll manage an action scene, but I'd give him a shot.

  • March 20, 2010, 11:41 p.m. CST

    if farv doenst like the suppernatural

    by phoenixmagida5th

    In his iron man universe how the fuck does he plan to tell the story of the mandarian? Can't have iron man fight other iron men in every movie like this new one does again.

  • March 20, 2010, 11:49 p.m. CST

    Who made Zak Penn the go-to-guy

    by Nerd Rage

    for Marvel movies? You're telling me this is the best writer for superhero movies in Hollywood. Fuck that shit!

  • March 20, 2010, 11:50 p.m. CST

    FUCK NOLAN!!!!

    by Jobacca

    God...please keep Nolan and all the other ilk away from the Marvel universe. Yeah Dark Knight made a fuckton of money,but the last thing we need is Morgan Freeman showing up to give a 20 min. lecture on how STARK industries made Thors hammer and blah,blah,blah just to make everything realistic. The best thing about Iron Man was actually fun to watch. Same with Hulk. Keep a lid on all the torture and the angst,EMBRACE the comic book origins without going all Joel Schumacher and just show me the Avengers and Hulk fucking shit up on the big-screen. 'Nuff said,true believers!!!

  • March 20, 2010, 11:58 p.m. CST


    by enderandrew

    I've never read Iron Man comics, but doesn't Mandarin have 10 magic rings? Didn't he name the terrorist organization in Iron Man 10 Rings?<p>I think Favs was going out of his way to take something supernatural and reinvent it for the real world. And frankly, one of the things I love about Nolan's Bat-verse is how realistic it is.<p>I'm watching Incredible Hulk right now on a streaming site, and 40 minutes in, it is better than I expected it to be.

  • March 20, 2010, 11:59 p.m. CST


    by enderandrew

    With The Watchmen, the studio fought so many aspects of that adaptation over the years with various directors. That adaptation is about as perfect as any geek can hope for. Changing the ending was the right move to make, and if I dare so, perhaps an improvement on the original.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:03 a.m. CST

    Why are they never going after Top Talents?

    by chien_sale

    Are they afraid of the cost or the creative control? Cheap actors, cheap directors. Hacks, Hacks, Hacks.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:04 a.m. CST

    Fuck Nolan?

    by NorseFire

    I loved Iron Man and it was a blast to watch, but The Dark Knight is just on a different level imo. Nolan's film-making is brilliant. The interactions between the characters would be amazing. What would it be at this point: Chris Evans, RDJ, Sam Jackson, Ed Norton, and Chris Hemsworth? Not a bad group for certain but a director that commands respect will be needed.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:08 a.m. CST

    I think the ending of the Watchmen movie

    by lotharius3rd1118

    was a big improvement. Sure, you miss out on the visual bombast of giant squid beings, but the ending for the movie was more reflective of the storyline and more simplified simultaneously. No one should complain about the lack of squid in that movie.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:09 a.m. CST


    by ahdvd

    I got a feeling you're gonna hate Iron Man 2

  • March 21, 2010, 12:09 a.m. CST

    I prefer 3/4's of Ang Lee's Hulk as well ofer TIH

    by MRJONZ72

    Agree with Phatgod2...especially after multiple reviewings of both movies.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:09 a.m. CST

    As much as I liked Incredible...

    by Shermdawg

    ...which was more than Iron Man, btw...there's just too much riding on Avengers to let Leterrier oversee it. I do want a Incredible sequel though. <br><br> The only people I could see at the helm of something like this and actually making it work are either unavailable, or too big to even consider, and no, Nolan's not one of them. Peter Jackson, despite his giant misstep with Kong would be a perfect fit, but that's not even a possibility. <br><br> But honestly, after all this crap related to the Cap casting, I don't know if I even care about The Avengers anymore. I'm not really anticipating Iron Man 2, couldn't care less about Thor, the Hulk franchise appears dead....which is a shame, and like I said, least at this point...for a film I was looking forward to, is sounding less and less appealing as time goes on. <br><br> I dunno.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:15 a.m. CST

    Iron Man 2 trailers

    by enderandrew

    Let's not start sucking each other's popsicles just yet. Iron Man was good fun, and a return to form for RDJ, but it wasn't the greatest movie in the universe. The big "action sequence" in the end was a bit underwhelming for one. However, the trailers for Iron Man 2 look incredible. I'm cautiously hoping for the jump from X-Men to X-Men 2 with Iron Man 2.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:20 a.m. CST

    I dig Ang's Hulk too, but...

    by Shermdawg

    I just wish something besides stress was the catalyst for the initial transformation, and then there's the shitty beatdown Josh Lucas gave Bana, and the ending that was a little too out there with no real payoff. But man, as much as people shit on the effects and Hulk looking like Shrek...which I agree to an extent, and that was just due to a lack of texture....something Leterrier and crew went overboard with in Incredible...but yeah, the effects were pretty amazing. That tank faceoff in the desert? Awesome shit. Hell, I even liked the dog fight, especially that shot of him roaring. That looked so much better than the I Am Legend-ish plastic stretchy face shot when The Hulk jumps down from the observation bridge in Incredible and roars. <br><br> If it was bookended better, I think the imperfections in the effects would've been overlooked, and the film wouldn't of recieved such negative word of mouth. Ya gotta deliver on a good ending, and Ang didn't.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:22 a.m. CST


    by NorseFire

    Agreed about Leterrier. There would be too much on the line. I don't know about Jackson though. I'm not saying it wouldn't be good, I just can't really see it yet. I guess it's possible. And I'm taking the wait and see approach. If 2 of those 3 movies turn out decent, I'll be excited for the Avengers. I'm hoping they'll all be good, but we'll see.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:24 a.m. CST


    by Crestfallen

    Who's saying he resigned? Sounds more like they want a bigger named director. Perhaps Leterrier was just told he was on the short list to appease him. You can't make huge conclusions about the future Avengers film based on this info. The Avengers script wasn't even submitted when Favreau made those comments and it's perfectly feasible to integrate tech with sci-fi fantasy type elements in a superhero film.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:28 a.m. CST

    Aww, I thought it was a remake of the British show

    by Bot-Bot

    The Avengers, the 60's TV series from England, deserves a proper remake with a good director, and have it set in the 1960's. Not like that horrid 1998 version.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:29 a.m. CST

    re: Bigelow...

    by Leto III

    ...She's already done vampire flicks, submarine suspense flicks, crime thrillers, bank-heist thrillers, war movies, and speculative fiction sci-fi thrillers.<p> She's worked in virtually every major genre, and for years I've wondered why she never got to handle "bigger" Hollywood franchise movies. Now, she has the chance to dabble in the occasional "tentpole" property, and I think we'll probably see a major summer flick from her in the very near future.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:37 a.m. CST

    JARED SYN CITY - Hulk Dogs

    by MRJONZ72

    I recall Hulk Dogs in the comics way before the movie..I think they were called The Dogs of War..Its been a long time cant remember for sure.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:39 a.m. CST

    My problems with the TIH

    by MRJONZ72

    I saw no depth in it.. Good action but I found the movie mind numbing...Wanted more..I mean didnt want them to over due the drama but something more.. Im a big fan of Peter Davids run of the comic look at his books as some inspiration..Hulk is more than just HULK SMASH to me.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:45 a.m. CST

    "something more"

    by Shermdawg

    Ang tried that.

  • March 21, 2010, 1:16 a.m. CST

    The directors that would rock:

    by cifra

    (all Oscar nominated previously in any cathegory): Tarantino, Javier Fesser, Juan Carlos Fresnadillo - doing Bioshock! -, James Cameron, Kathryn Bigelow, Steven Spielberg... off the top of my head, those would be my choices.

  • March 21, 2010, 1:25 a.m. CST

    If Tarantino wanted to do a cg flick...

    by Shermdawg

    ....he'd stick his dick in his Nintendo.

  • March 21, 2010, 2:15 a.m. CST

    Hulk Dogs? Electro-Absorbing-Dad?

    by Jared_Syn_City

    Yah, but Hulk poodles? Created by David Banner, Bruce's evil father who is the actual reason he became the Hulk... sent out to kill Betty? Lame. Lame. Lame. Ang's Hulk is bad, it's a betrayal of the character from someone that just really wanted to make a Greek tragedy and not a comic book movie. But for some reason it has become the hip movie for people to say that they love. These people remind me of the goth kids from South Park. If you watch The Incredible Hulk and then Ang's Hulk, and think that Ang Lee was more fun and exciting to watch... I don't know what to tell you. It wasn't perfect, but Marvel knew they had to go for more action because of the nasty stain that Lee left on the franchise.

  • March 21, 2010, 2:17 a.m. CST

    I agree fugget Nolan

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    Bring back fun, and screw realism. Go watch documentaries tackdicks. No more heroes looking for redemption, that thing is as tired as your colonoscopy exams.

  • March 21, 2010, 2:30 a.m. CST

    id love to see a Tarantino HULK

    by irc-Hollywood

    god knows what he'd do with it, but it won't be CGi, he get some huge body building and old school it.

  • March 21, 2010, 2:32 a.m. CST

    Florent Siri!

    by RedEgiraahgnal

    This guy seriously needs a 2nd try in Hollywood!

  • March 21, 2010, 2:47 a.m. CST

    Brad Bird

    by GeneralJackCosmo

    Is the guy for the job.

  • March 21, 2010, 2:49 a.m. CST

    You kow JJ Abrams is on the list

    by GeneralJackCosmo

    AVENGERS is at Paramount.

  • March 21, 2010, 2:49 a.m. CST

    You also know he is on the list

    by GeneralJackCosmo

    As well as kow it.

  • March 21, 2010, 2:52 a.m. CST

    JJ Abrams is a great call.

    by irc-Hollywood

    busy with Trek so it won't happen, but he's a great choice.

  • March 21, 2010, 2:56 a.m. CST

    No, JJ is not on that list.

    by Shermdawg

    The next Star Trek is coming out two months later.

  • March 21, 2010, 3 a.m. CST

    Great Avengers Movie Clip

    by irc-Hollywood

  • March 21, 2010, 3:54 a.m. CST

    Science+The Supernatural=Ghostbusters

    by BixbySnyder

    It CAN be done Favreau. Watch more movies.

  • March 21, 2010, 3:55 a.m. CST

    And for the last time:Avengers by BIGELOW

    by BixbySnyder

    <p>I suggested her BEFORE her Oscar, and im glad to see more people are figuring this obvious choice out.</p> <p>Also, Blomkamp for Black Panther. Panther for Avengers 2.</p>

  • March 21, 2010, 3:57 a.m. CST

    Science+The Supernatural=BLADE

    by BixbySnyder

    One more example to chew on.

  • March 21, 2010, 4:04 a.m. CST

    Ang Lees Hulk IS THE SHIT!

    by sonnyfern

    SUCH A GOOD MOVIE. I love it because it's so damn different, these comic books movies are in danger of just being the same thing over and over again, which was the problem I had with Leterriers version, it brought nothing new to the table. I hope Leterrier doesn't get Avangers, his movies lack HEART.

  • March 21, 2010, 4:04 a.m. CST

    Ang Lees Hulk IS THE SHIT!

    by sonnyfern

    SUCH A GOOD MOVIE. I love it because it's so damn different, these comic books movies are in danger of just being the same thing over and over again, which was the problem I had with Leterriers version, it brought nothing new to the table. I hope Leterrier doesn't get Avangers, his movies lack HEART.

  • March 21, 2010, 4:08 a.m. CST

    Avengers, Justice League

    by christpunchers2007

    None of these mega assembly movies will work. Audience will not buy it, neither will the fans.

  • March 21, 2010, 4:09 a.m. CST

    Science+The Supernatural=STAR WARS

    by BixbySnyder

    <p>Hey, best example yet! And no whiners, please...No Midichlorian debates. Midichlorians do not 'explain the force'.</p> <p>(If anything, they explain how the Jedi can manipulate a mysterious energy field. An energy field that was already given a quick, pseudo-scientific explanation in ANH.)</p>

  • March 21, 2010, 4:25 a.m. CST

    No, really. What are the other names...

    by DOGSOUP

  • March 21, 2010, 4:47 a.m. CST

    Great news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by kwisatzhaderach

    I mean, why bother to hire a talented director when you can have a fully paid-up member of the hack pack?

  • March 21, 2010, 5:03 a.m. CST

    Avengers movie is what this decade of superhero filmmaking has l

    by TSTEWIE

    ...if its sucks, everybody has a lot of esplanin' to do. I can see it working, now for the first time: First bit-Iron Man, Captain America, Thor being (begrudgingly) assembled to reign in the crazy, unstoppable Hulk, while the Skrull invasion begins and they must work together to defend Earth. Simple, awesome, amazing. I could maybe even see Chris Evans as Cap (Goddamnit, NEIL MCDONOUGH!!!!!!!!!)

  • March 21, 2010, 5:09 a.m. CST

    Neil McDonough...

    by TSTEWIE

    ...was born to play Captain America. He's most definitely got the chops (see Band of Brothers and the shamefully underrated Boomtown) and he's yet to get a role that really shows his potential. He;s obviously available, and clearly (to anyone that actually gives a shit) the best choice. Fuck these young mother fuckers, although admittedly I did likfe Evans in Street Kings and Sunshine, and would like to pretend the Fantastic Four movies never happened... goddamnit... NEIL McDONOUGH!!!

  • March 21, 2010, 5:19 a.m. CST


    by BixbySnyder

    Her credentials are clearly the best. Her flicks show that she can work in ALL the genres needed for Avengers. <p>Hurt Locker K-19: The Widowmaker Strange Days Point Break Near Dark</p> <p>Oscar Winner. (Not that i expect Avengers to win any)</p> <p>Married to James Cameron, yes this is a credential. She can deal with an ego.</p> <p>(Which, let's face it)there will be plenty of, when they make the Avengers.)</p>

  • March 21, 2010, 5:35 a.m. CST

    James Cameron

    by BixbySnyder

    Should do Wonder Woman. (Like i put forth in my idea the other day) It's right up his alley too. Cameron has a fetish for strong women kicking ass. <p>(which, i think we all do.)</p>

  • March 21, 2010, 5:46 a.m. CST

    Edgar Wright.

    by Cameron1

    I think if Pilgrim does well (and that's by no means a given) he could be in the running if only because he'd be fairly cheap to employ on what's sure to be a SERIOUSLY expensive movie. I think he'd step up and knock it out the park personally and it would be great to see the guy who directed Spaced make a giant blockbuster comic movie. It's almost too perfect.

  • March 21, 2010, 7:20 a.m. CST

    I hated liv tyler..

    by emeraldboy

    in IH. if they are going to recast the role they should hire Steve Buscemi or rockwell for banner.

  • March 21, 2010, 7:39 a.m. CST

    Midochlorians explain how the force is used by humans

    by Nerd Rage

    It's an explanation for the force that provides a scientific basis for the force. It's one of the worst things introduced by the prequels and that's saying alot. The more ambiguous the force is the more depth there is in Star Wars. You take away that ambiguity and you ruin alot of what made Star Wars interesting. If the force is science then it's nothing more than a bunch of old guys fighting with glow sticks on alien worlds. Just adds to the notion that Lucas secretly hates Star Wars and actively does shit to fuck with the fans.

  • March 21, 2010, 7:44 a.m. CST

    Sam Rockwell woul be a great replacement for Norton

    by Nerd Rage

    If he wasn't already playing a Marvel character in Iron Man 2.

  • March 21, 2010, 7:50 a.m. CST

    But Incredible Hulk sucked

    by ballyhoo

    Giving the big film to him, just because he made a profitable film would be a mistake.

  • March 21, 2010, 7:53 a.m. CST

    I love Ang Lee's The Hulk

    by elsewhere

    Not perfect by any means, but it kept me emotionally invested throughout the film. I'm glad to see others love it as well. It gets far too much hate.

  • March 21, 2010, 7:57 a.m. CST

    If Clash of the Titans rakes in the cash

    by Nerd Rage

    you know Marvel-Disney is going to sign this guy. He'd then be a safe choice but far from the best choice. I'd love to know who else Marvel is considering.

  • March 21, 2010, 8:08 a.m. CST

    TIH didn't suck

    by Nerd Rage

    but it was average and I don't want an average Avengers movie. I want a classic Avengers movie. Get a director with at least one or two classics under their belt. But I guess that's easier said than done.

  • March 21, 2010, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Louis Lamours has writed so many great books

    by MC_DLyte

    It is about times that he make a great movies

  • March 21, 2010, 8:32 a.m. CST


    by 2007

    if letterier did iron man and faverau did TIH things would be a whole lot more clear as to where the talent actually lies. hulk was such a hard film to sell to do the state of the franchise, the norton situation with the script, and the non cool factor of a big green monster that can only punch. (sorry but I already seen king kong). if letterier had directed IronMan like he was originally supposed to he'd be a star right now.

  • March 21, 2010, 8:51 a.m. CST

    If he's at the bottom of the list then that's one hell of a list

    by runawayboulder

    Hulk was better than IM. Finally some encouraging news from Marvel after a week's worth of Cap casting garbage.

  • March 21, 2010, 8:52 a.m. CST

    Brains. Will. Be. Buboed.

    by The Reluctant Austinite

  • March 21, 2010, 8:54 a.m. CST

    Re: Midichlorians-BULLSHIT

    by BixbySnyder

    <p>The 'Explanation of the force' was in ANH. By Obi-Wan to Luke.</p> <p>THE VERY FIRST SW MOVIE.</p> <p>The second sw movie (ESB) gave ANOTHER explanation, by Yoda. The more 'spiritual one.</p> <p>'Midichlorians' gave the GeneralAudienceTM something to ponder.</p> <p>And the obsessive nerds something to discuss/whine about.</p> <p>Gamechanger right there! But, screw that noise for now, we're discussing AVENGERS and the MARVEL universe here.</p> <p>'Science and Magic', YES they can work together as all 3 of my examples show.</p> <p>Just dont explain any of the supernatural stuff.</p> <p>(Which sw, still, HAVE NOT DONE. After all, what generates the force?)</p>

  • March 21, 2010, 9:16 a.m. CST

    lotharius3rd1118 - Ang Lee's HULK was amazing.

    by dr sauch

    Deal with it, fatty. The new one was, I'm sure, closer to the tone/story of the original comic, but Lee's was an amazing film that elevated the Hulk above silliness. Yes, thats right, I think the Hulk is a silly superhero.

  • March 21, 2010, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Hmmm... not too crazy about him.

    by Bruce of all Trades

    He's been an OK action director so far, nothing fantastic in that department. He's an average director in every other aspect of film making. Favs would have probably been the best of the bunch. And the reason he hasn't taken it has nothing to do with working with supernatural elements, since Marvel's basically making the Asgardians "aliens", instead of gods.

  • March 21, 2010, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Some Thoughts

    by nukeboy1970

    1. Ang Lee's Hulk sucked balls. He just didn't get it. When you do an adaptation, you should at least understand the source material. Trying to make an art movie out of the Hulk is moronic. Not only that, the movie lacked focus. For instance, what the was up with the origin? Pick something and stick to it. There were like 4 different origins rolled into one. (Bruce's dad's DNA was genetically altered, he was experimented on as a child, the explosion, the experiment) Also, the end was a complete abortion. 2. As much as I love QT, wanting him to direct a mainstream superhero flick is stupid. Just because you like a director, doesn't mean that director can direct any type of movie. QT sticks with what he does best.

  • March 21, 2010, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Why is The Avengers so hard to do?

    by The_Goddamn_Batman

    Comic book writers (and artists) have to combine the styles, themes and ongoing threads of these and many more characters in the Avengers books. <p> And I found Ang Lee's Hulk movie to be hugely disappointing at the time. Story is odd and interesting, but wrong.However, the Hulk in the desert stuff is Silver Age brilliance. Just magical madness. <p> But the problem with both Hulk films isn't the story or even the effects. It's the character - Hulk doesn't talk. <p> Same with Raimi's Spider-Man (x5)

  • March 21, 2010, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Not enough love for...

    by scnjedi

    Alfonso Cuaron in here. Seriously

  • March 21, 2010, 10:16 a.m. CST

    The Mandarin's

    by nukeboy1970

    rings aren't magic.

  • March 21, 2010, 10:23 a.m. CST


    by nukeboy1970

    What do you mean the Hulk doesn't talk?

  • March 21, 2010, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Sam Raimi for Avengers?

    by Galactic

    Just no singing and dancing plz.

  • March 21, 2010, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Ang Lee's Hulk....

    by brute101

    ...was more cerebral than any of you 'instant gratification' testosterone-fueled ADD complainers could handle... Both Hulk films were worth while, but I felt more attached to and immersed into Ang's...

  • March 21, 2010, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Ang Lee's Hulk..

    by nukeboy1970

    ..wasn't cerebral. It was a confusing, unfocused mess. The origin and the end were the two most glaring examples of this. He had no understanding of the Hulk/Bruce Banner at all. Read Peter David's Hulk if you want a cereberal approach by someone who gets it.

  • March 21, 2010, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Norton wanted a darker version of the hulk story..

    by emeraldboy

    Banner kills himself. studio didnt want that. norton freaked out when they ordered that change. one fatal mistake they made was that changed gen ross. he wanted the hulk killed for attempting to kill betty ross. but for some reason the studio changed that. and we got "we all created the hulk ending". a couple of weeks ago and it was not reported on this site, tim roth said he had signed on to do three hulk films. universal got cold feet. after the incredible hulk came out. i seem to recall that universal felt that the film had underperformed and were not moving forward with a sequel.

  • March 21, 2010, 11:30 a.m. CST

    the avengers is hard to do

    by emeraldboy

    becuase of cost. this would have to be a complex deal involving marvel and other studios. plus this would not just involve movies there would have to be tv shows, dvds etc, in other it would have to be multi-platform. those thing are expensive. WB tried that with the matrix. Cameron takes ages to make his movies. a multi directorial team could be the way to go but that would be messy. let a director make his or her stamp on a comic book film.

  • March 21, 2010, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Don't Care About The Avengers

    by FreeBeer

    And I hope it doesn't ruin Iron Man for me. I know there are supernatural characters and magic in the comic book Marvel universe, but I only watch the movies and in my head, magic doesn't exist in the Iron Man world depicted on screen. I don't mind Iron Man teaming up with Thor or Captain America, the are both sci fi heros like Iron Man, but Thor? Give him his own movie in his own little separate universe but don't have him hanging around with Stark and Co., just seems mental to me, can't see it working in a live action film. You may as well make Dracula the villain and Harry Potter the suprrise hero who didn't exist in the comic book Avengers Team (ala Tom Sawyer in League OF Ex Gentlemen)

  • March 21, 2010, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Uwe Boll.

    by dr sauch

    it would be so awesome.

  • March 21, 2010, 11:35 a.m. CST

    The Hulks

    by billydeewilliams

    Ang Lee's is REALLY hard to re-watch. The poodles, the last 1/3rd of the movie, and Bana is boring. Letteriers is fun the first time and the gets deeper as you re-watch it (especially DVD version).

  • March 21, 2010, 11:36 a.m. CST

    And About Roth Being Signed For 3 Hulks

    by FreeBeer

    Prob won't happen now, but I think he would have likely ended up becoming pals with the Hulk and they would have teamed up to kick an even bigger ass than theirs. The problem with the Hulk movies (aside from poor script of course) was that the Hulk looked like a computer game character. If the are to do another one down the line, or for his appearance in the Avengers, use some of that groovy Avatar motion capture technology so that he still looks somewhat real and human when he Hulk's out.

  • March 21, 2010, 11:36 a.m. CST

    brute101 - you are correct sir.

    by dr sauch

    It tied the Hulk to interesting themes: Evolution, the awesome power of nature, human emotion. It's not just about some douche who smashes stuff.

  • March 21, 2010, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Star Wars = Fantasy not SciFi

    by ominus

    and Avatar = Science Fantasy <p>end of line

  • March 21, 2010, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Sorry, that should Be

    by FreeBeer

    (i don't mind Iron Man teaming up with HULK and Captain America"

  • March 21, 2010, 11:40 a.m. CST


    by nukeboy1970

    They did use motion capture with the Hulk and the Abomination.

  • March 21, 2010, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Lars Von Trier

    by Harry Palmerlime

    I'd be the first in line, man. First in line.

  • March 21, 2010, 11:45 a.m. CST


    by FreeBeer

    Yeah, I know, but it obviously wasn't as evolved as the technology used in Avatar. Hulk and Abomination's faces looked like cartoons, Abomination slightly less so

  • March 21, 2010, 12:01 p.m. CST

    All the directors you really wish would take the movie

    by CreasyBear

    look down on the idea as being far beneath them.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Get John Woo

    by FreeBeer

  • March 21, 2010, 12:03 p.m. CST

    Asia John Woo, Not Hollywood John Woo

    by FreeBeer

  • March 21, 2010, 12:05 p.m. CST

    I feel I should clarify,re:Fuck Nolan

    by Jobacca

    I am a HUUUGE Bat-Fan. Massive. And I love DC over Marvel any day of the week. I think The Dark Knight was a well made film,with some good actors,but I just dont find it entertaining(except for the Joker bits). Just the other day both Dark Knight and Incredible Hulk were playing on cable at the same time...I wound up watching Hulk. Despite the fact that I have 4 boxes full of Batman comics and only own maybe 3 or 4 Hulk comics.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Since we're talking Ang Lee's Hulk

    by deelzbub

    and I'm a big Hulk fan from WAAAY back - he totally missed the point on Banner. Bruce Banner is a tortured soul, wracked with guilt over this uncontrollable monster within him, which totally endangers everyone ON THE PLANET.<P> The one thing he does NOT do, is revel in it, or get off on it, like Eric Bana obviously does. He just entirely got the character's motivations wrong.<P> And all the crap with Banner's dad was wrong on two fronts. <P> First, his abuses and machinations weren't revealed until like 30 years into the comics run, it was more of a sub-context for the Hulk, and not a primary driving force. This was not something that had enough weight to be a main plot-point of an origin movie, it actually pulled focus from the real story.<P> And the BS with Nolte getting the Absorbing man's powers, more revisionist crap! Don't cheat us out of the Absorbing man just because you want to give this non-character some powers!<P> The tank fight, and the Hulk's appearance were the saving graces of this film. And when the Hulk flexes his shoulder and breaks that dog's jaw, awesome!

  • March 21, 2010, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Aw, Beaks has a crush...

    by Gozu

    Because Lord knows his suggestions carry some heavy weight. Also, out of all them, the only one that hasn't done heavy franchise stuff is Edgar Wright. Which means there's no point in being coy, douche.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Ok, I'll deal with it.

    by lotharius3rd1118

    That Ang Lee's Hulk was an ill-conceived mess. The lazy use of split screens to induce a comic panel feel was an interesting idea that he pulled off with one of the most inept executions in superhero history. The Hulk poodles was actually kind of a fun scene, but utterly rediculous. The fake effects, especially in the death of the Josh Lucas character. Josh Lucas. The odd, nonsense ending. It was a waste of time. Boring, predictable, and stupid. I'm not a huge comics fan and I know that the Hulk is a pretty silly character. But I can tell the difference between a well made action film and a self-important crapfest and guess which one Ang Lee's Hulk is. I'm glad so many of you found a way to like it, that's great. I just thought it was shit. Oh and, dr.sauch, fuck you. See I can throw out random insults at people I've never talked to as well. Doesn't make my opinion any less wrong or right. But it does make you a deuche.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:11 p.m. CST

    *douche* is what I meant.

    by lotharius3rd1118

  • March 21, 2010, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Tarantino on MASTER OF KUNG FU!!

    by SonOfChiba

    While I agree with the guys whi said QT is perfect for The Avengers, he's oten cited MOKF as his all-time fave Marvel comic. Wish he'd get the chance to make it!!

  • March 21, 2010, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Only Great Thing Edgar Wright Did..

    by FreeBeer

    ..Was Spaced, Season 2. Shaun Of The Dead was over rated and Hot Fuzz was a complete mess

  • March 21, 2010, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Bryan Singer's the right man for the job, I reckon

    by Bruce of all Trades

    ...'cept it looks like he's shackled to Fox now. Sigh...

  • March 21, 2010, 12:17 p.m. CST

    If they could get someone who really gives

    by deelzbub

    a shit about the Hulk, (and there's alot of subtley to the character that the casual observer usually misses)then there's no reason Marvel couldn't put out Hulk movies every four or five years like Bond movies.<P> RESPECT THE SOURCE MATERIAL. It's like the Bible to it's followers, Hollywood. When will you get that? Noah doesn't part the Red Sea, and Cain doesn't kill Abel with a machine gun. Get the story right, and the money will follow. It's already TIME-TESTED. Understand?

  • March 21, 2010, 12:27 p.m. CST

    The Avengers director needs to understand

    by deelzbub

    what makes the MARVEL universe great. It overlaps, it intersects, and it crosses-over! The hard-science characters sometime have run-ins with magic characters. Mutants can fight vampires AND aliens in outer space.<P> That is why MARVEL needs to keep clauses in the studio contracts which would allow for the cross-overs to more easily happen in the movies. They should at least be able to reference characters and institutions(a la Daily Bugle). <P>It's in their best interest, it's the fucking theme of their entire catalog!

  • March 21, 2010, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Bah, Hot Fuzz had Tim Dalton

    by BixbySnyder

    And the Equalizer.(RIP Good Sir) <p>Not to mention: Good action and plenty of chuckles.</p>

  • March 21, 2010, 12:35 p.m. CST

    John McTiernan for Avengers!

    by mojoman69

    DIe Hard, Predator, 13th Warrior. This guy would make an Avengers movie that truly rocks. As for ANg Lee's Hulk, please. Fucking giant mutant poodles? Jesus did that movie eat Hobo dick cheese.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:37 p.m. CST


    by BranMakMorn

    Great point. If Favreau did say he didn't want to mix supernatural with *his* real world Marvel then he doesn't understand why the Marvel universe was so appealing to comic fans in the first place. Afterall, Iron Man is just "superscience". It's how the stories are told within the context of that universe that distinguishes them.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:37 p.m. CST

    If Tarantino should have done ANY Cbm

    by BixbySnyder

    <p>wouldn't 'Punisher' have been it?</p> <p>Bryan Singer should direct traffic. On the LA Freeway.</p>

  • March 21, 2010, 12:38 p.m. CST

    I love Edgar Wright.

    by lotharius3rd1118

    Hot Fuzz is absolutely hilarious as is Shaun of the Dead. And Spaced was a shining bit of brilliance on the BBC. That said, I don't want to see him doing these kinds of studio pictures. He's better than that.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Um...They're ALL Unrealistic Imaginary Stories, Idiots.

    by thecomedian

    I hate that cop out whether it's Favreau or Nolan. There's no such thing as a realistic superhero movie. Yes, The Dark Knight is a superb crime thriller and Iron Man is a double power fantasy for the Maxim set since Tony Stark is actually just as much a power fantasy figure because he's a freewheelin bazillionaire who fucks supermodels. But the overall fact remains that audiences go to movies ready and willing to suspend their disbelief if you give them a quality story. <br> <br> Favreau's cop out is lame because we can see all the Asgard shit in Thor's backstory in his own movie while in the Avengers everyone just thinks he's nuts(like Ultimates) and the audience will be in on the joke that he's not. Come on, the guy who made Zathura is complaining about "silly stupid magic"!?!? The Avengers will work if you have Downey playing off both Thor and Cap like they're nuts. I mean he's got to hunt down the Hulk and the best support Nick Fury can give him are some cornball USO dude they thawed out of a block of ice with NO POWERS and some nutball schitzo who can do all the things Tony needs a suit to do and doesn't need repulsor rays since he can call down lightning instead. If you play Avengers with Tony embracing these two misfits as his friends and trusting Cap. Which won't be a problem if they put a Howard Stark scene in Captain America so Tony basically looks up to Cap since he sorta knew his dad. <br> <br> Fuck "the realistic world I've set up" wank cop out. Same with Nolan. Batman is a guy who goes out every night dressed up like fucking Dracula and kicks the shit out of purse snatchers. Wouldn't an interesting place to take a character like that, someone who's pretending to be something supernatural or extraordinary to be brought face to face with the real thing. You're honestly telling me a filmed scene of the classic 1st rooftop meeting of Superman and Batman where Superman condescendingly chastises Batman for being a vigilante, you're honestly telling me that scene isn't possible or it's "unrealistic". You pull that scene off alone and the audience is sold. People around the world just paid billions of dollars to watch a 3 hours sci-fi remake of Dances With Wolves. I think they'd suspend disbelief for a Justice League movie. If your imagination doesn't have that much latitude then I feel sorry for you.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:46 p.m. CST


    by TheHumanBurrito may be "The Bible" to it's followers, but here is the reality of it:comic book fans aren't worth the money.<p>That's right, if every fan of comic book x flocked to see the perfect adaptation (and this assumes that every reader feels the book is perfect and doesn't need changing-I sure as hell don't want to see a %100 accurate X-Men flick, for instance, it'd be gayer than Batman And Robin was) it wouldn't be enough to make it a profitable venture.<p>Last I was aware, the best selling comic of all time was a 1991 X-Men issue, at the height of comic book popularity, to the tune of 7 million or so copies. 7 million audience members is not enough to make a blockbuster, you have to appeal to MORE than the followers. Let's take a look at where comic book sales are now:<p><p>OUCH, a few hundred thousand copies of popular books? Not enough loyal followers there for box office gold.<p>Then you have to ask "respect the source material"-ok, which source material? I can't even begin to count how many SLIGHTLY different versions of Popular Comic Hero X's origin there have been-which one do we choose is the "right" one? How about people who bitched about the XMen costumes being "wrong" because Cyclops and Wolverine weren't in their blue/yellow getup, even though that isn't their original costuming? What do we do in 50 years when someone wants to make an XMen movie and fans demand an "accurate" origin story for Magneto, who would be a nearly impossibly old man at that point if he were a holocaust survivor? Did Iron Man's backstory get ruined by scratching out Vietnam and writing in Afghanistan instead? <p>Finally, accuracy is time tested eh? Sin City and Watchmen were pretty damned faithful adaptations, they didn't exactly make box office history to support your claim. The Dark Knight is WAY off base at many points and is a box office (and critical) champ.<p>I guess what I'm trying to say here is...if you want your funny book, read your funny book. Accuracy does necessarily not equal quality, and there's a reason that I own about as many comic books as I do children's movies-they're typically on the same level.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Hulk transformations

    by ShadowVision

    The biggest problem I had with both movies is that they just couldn't get the transformation process right. Seemed like they oozed into the Hulk. The thing that scared me about the Bill Bixby version when I was a kid is the transformation. Never showed the whole body but parts expanding and tearing through his clothes. You got the feeling that he was in real agony. I have this same issue with a lot of the werewolf movies today. The only one that I feel had such an emotional transformation impact is the American Werewolf in London.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Get a better John Steed and Emma Peel this time

    by Mgmax

    Sorry, comic book geeks, that's the only Avengers I know. But I'm excited for you that the director of the second-worst Hulk movie will now direct some more comic book shit no one cares about.

  • March 21, 2010, 12:57 p.m. CST


    by deelzbub

    While I tend to agree with you on some of your points, I did find it humorous that you used Sin City and Watchmen as your examples. That's the same two examples I used a couple of weeks ago to support my point. More faithful to the source material, and in retrospect, these movies will be standing head and shoulders above the rest over the long run. X-3, Superman Returns, Electra, Spider-Man 3, & Catwoman: I think not. <P>That's the kind of filmmaking you are defending, dude.

  • March 21, 2010, 1 p.m. CST

    Actually Steed and Peel should come back to TV....

    by thecomedian

    Or someone should do a fan web series ala Buck Rogers and Star Trek Phase 2 to generate some heat for that franchise again.

  • March 21, 2010, 1:01 p.m. CST

    And the Director of The Avengers Should be....

    by film_is_dead

    Darren Aronofsky. This way, you get Matty Libatique(Iron Man, Iron Man 2) to shoot it. Besides, The Avengers would be a lot better for him than a remake of Robocop.

  • March 21, 2010, 1:06 p.m. CST

    TheHumanBurrito is Right

    by BixbySnyder

    Hence, the WATCHMEN failure at the box office. It WAS a good adaption. <p>The source material was just too bleak for the general audience. (Hence "unfilmable")</p> <p>If WB would have made as good of an adaptation of Superman, they would have made Avatar money.</p>

  • March 21, 2010, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Wow, quite a few fanboy badges need turning in

    by Nice Marmot

    Cause BRAD BIRD has only been mentioned TWICE!!! He's our man. Hands down best choice.

  • March 21, 2010, 1:11 p.m. CST

    I like The Raimi idea...

    by thecomedian

    He'd be great. It would be bitter sweet since it would only remind us that we'll never see his Spiderman playing in this same universe but it would be cool. I honestly think Sam Raimi made Spiderman 3 shitty on purpose just to fuck with the studio for making him stick Venom in. All the stuff up till the black suit shows up is pitch perfect movie Spiderman. He hated Venom so much that he fucked up the Black suit design on purpose and added all that shitty Hercules and Xena-esque dance crap on purpose. He knew what he was doing.

  • March 21, 2010, 1:17 p.m. CST

    I remember a long time ago

    by lotharius3rd1118

    before Nolan was attached, that Aronofsky was in talks about doing Batman. I'd be very curious to see his visual style consume a superhero movie. And I really like Raimi, but i just can't buy into the whole "he fucked up Spidey 3 on purpose" bit. He knew what he was doing, and in that case his instincts led him disastrously astray.

  • March 21, 2010, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Time will tell

    by deelzbub

    Bleak material or not. Ten years from now,(hell, even one) would you sit down and watch a repeat of Sin City, or Catwoman? Spider-Man 1 or Electra?<P> Try this one: Daredevil or Superman Returns? Ben Affleck notwithstanding, I'd pick DD over that lukewarm Supes any day of the week.

  • March 21, 2010, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Didn't Aronofsky's Batman

    by BixbySnyder

    Have a black Alfred that referred to the Batmobile as "Slammin'"? I seem to remember it spawning a whole slew of Aicnism's like: <p>-Insert celeb/character here- "has a beer and cheats on his wife.</p>

  • March 21, 2010, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Watchmen was a faithful adaptation...

    by Mgmax

    ...of something that's only half good. The comic really kind of goes to hell after the setup and the prison break, and the movie follows that faithfully. It would have been better without a politically moronic giant-squid conspiracy plot, just as a character study.

  • March 21, 2010, 1:28 p.m. CST

    In ten years...

    by lotharius3rd1118

    I will probably still watch Spidey 1 on occassion. I was not a big fan of Sin City, but I'd probably still click on it on late night cable a decade from now. I kinda liked Superman Returns, but I haven't seen it since the theaters. And I can't imagine that I'll ever watch Daredevil again. It sucked too hard. And I've already forgotten the existence of Elektra and Catwoman movies.

  • March 21, 2010, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Of course not. I loved Watchmen

    by BixbySnyder

    Just that they need to market some stuff better. The people i watched Watchmen with were not pleased. And it was NOT because a lack of squid. I think we may be talking about 2 different things here.

  • March 21, 2010, 1:39 p.m. CST

    I doubt Ant Man will be made in time..

    by rev_skarekroe be part of this universe. So I doubt it'll be Wright.

  • March 21, 2010, 1:41 p.m. CST

    I remember the having a beer and cheating on the wife

    by lotharius3rd1118

    bit. I could never figure out what that was all about.

  • March 21, 2010, 1:55 p.m. CST

    You mean they still want to give Ant Man his own movie?

    by Triple_J_72

    Jeez... just put him & the Wasp in the Avengers flick, give them a 10 minute backstory, and you're done.

  • March 21, 2010, 1:58 p.m. CST

    In most movies and TV series

    by deelzbub

    they have a member of the production who is in charge of "continuity" or some such. Making sure the actor's hair is combed in the same direction from scene to scene.<P> How easy would it be for MARVEL to have a Marvel editor like Quesada on staff in charge of Marvel Continuity? It would keep the Hollywood second-guessers in line and stop stupid crap like "dance-floor Spidey" and "totally indestingushable abomination" and "Dust Cloud Galactus" from happening. <P>Obviously Avi Arad can't be trusted with this job, because it was his fault that they shoe-horned Venom in S3, when the Venom storyline rated an entire film.

  • March 21, 2010, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Avengers will suck.

    by AD_Skinner

    Marvel are retards who immediately fucked up any new momentum gained from the sucess of Iron Man and started to try and do everything on the cheap with hack directors and z-grade actors. As soon as Thor went from Matthew Vaughn and Kevin McKidd to Kenneth Brannagh and Chris Hemsworth alarm bells were ringing. Now we have Joe Johnson and Chris Evans for Captain America. May as well get Paul WS Anderson for Avengers cause nothing can save this film now.

  • March 21, 2010, 2:07 p.m. CST


    by BixbySnyder

    I think it was a reference to Gordon, in Aronofsky's Batman, well...having a beer and cheating on his wife i guess. <p>The latest Aicn-ism, just coined in the Chris Evans as Cap Tb, tops it though.</p> <p>"subtle smirks and subtle naughtiness" is the new catchprase.</p>

  • March 21, 2010, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Kenneth Brannagh+Joe Johnson=

    by BixbySnyder


  • March 21, 2010, 2:27 p.m. CST

    David Fincher

    by MrMxyzptlk

    He directed one of the great character driven comic book-ish stories FIGHT CLUB. He created suspense in FlightPlan. He showed a mastery of visuals in Benjamin Button. And there is Se7en. Fincher 4 Avengers. Nuff said.

  • March 21, 2010, 2:32 p.m. CST

    I find it laughable...

    by nukeboy1970

    ...that any one can think the cast list for Thor and IM 2 are z-grade actors.

  • March 21, 2010, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Stallone directs The Expendable Avengers

    by MrMxyzptlk

    with Dolph Lundgren as Thor. Jason Statham as Captain America. Ahnuld as The Hulk. Bruce Willis as Iron Man. There will be blood.

  • March 21, 2010, 2:40 p.m. CST

    JJ arbams never said

    by ORIONgods

    he was going to direct star trek 2. so might be a chance he could direct this

  • March 21, 2010, 2:47 p.m. CST

    @MrMxyzptlk Now THAT'S fan casting

    by BixbySnyder

    <p>However, i would watch the hell out of that movie...Also, Terry Crews as Luke Cage and Stallone himself as the Punisher.(I know Punisher doesn't really belong in Avengers, but it would be cool.)</p> <p>Seriously though, nice call on Fincher.</p>

  • March 21, 2010, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Letterier is too drab and mediocre for

    by Dingbatty

    The Avengers. Which, for that matter, shouldn't be a singularly focused epic battle full of angst; look at the book when it was at it's best in the 70's and 80's -- it was all breezy and loose, with all number of fascinatingly different heroes casually strolling in and out of Avengers Mansion for a pick-up adventure du jour.

  • March 21, 2010, 2:57 p.m. CST

    The Rocketeer

    by deelzbub

    Johston only has to equal the quality of movie he did with "The Rocketeer" to do right by me. He had respect for the source material and brought the original vision (of the characters and script and look) beautifully to life onscreen.

  • March 21, 2010, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Joe Johnston

    by deelzbub

  • March 21, 2010, 3:06 p.m. CST


    by TheHumanBurrito whine about "accuracy", then cite Daredevil. I'm no Daredevil fanboy, but oh boy can I spot a shitton of "inaccuracies" there. Same for your citing of Spiderman.<p> Nice of you to pick out Elektra and Catwoman, but choosing two ABYSMALLY bad comic book movies and saying "see? inaccuracy=bad movie!" hardly counts as defense for your claim. Again, Dark Knight-way off base, great flick, whether you're a comic fan or not. X2, pretty off base but STILL regarded as one of the best superhero films:smartly made, well acted, no costumes that look like a bodybuilder in spandex let a kid color them in. I haven't watched it in a long while, I seem to remember the 1991 Captain America movie as being fairly faithful, right down to the costume. Must explain why it was so, uh, "good".<p>And yes, I know you referenced Sin City and Watchmen, that's why I brought them up specifically. Hard to turn your point against you otherwise. ;)<p> Oh and hey, Dust Cloud Galactus? While that isn't more stupid than "Giant Dude In Purple Underwear Galactus" (you want to see that on screen? what are you, 10?) it is certainly less stupid, but here is where your "accuracy" point comes in again:have you read any of the Ultimate books? Galactus is a sort of biomechanical swarm in that series. Is the comic "wrong"? If he had been a robobug swarm, accurate to the Ultimate version, would it still be "wrong" because it isn't the original? Have you ever even read some of the original Superman stories? EVERYTHING in every comic about him for decades has been "wrong" by your argument, I'd wager you don't even have a clue when/where commonly accepted Superfacts came into play.<p>Comic books aren't a very limited and deeply designed set of stories like, say, Lord of the Rings-they're a massive, contradictory, constantly evolving mosaic. They're a spring board, not a target. They are also like movies in that they are limited by their medium:movies have to make compromises on things such as costumes for the sake of cinematography, just as comics have to make compromises on things like "quality of writing" and "continuity" in order to keep pushing out new books every month for years.<p>Now if you'll excuse me, the Adam West Batman is on, and I cannot miss the greatest super hero series ever-I know it is of the highest quality because it is an accurate reflection of the comic books!

  • March 21, 2010, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Galactus in Fantastic Four 2...

    by D.Vader

    Would have been so easy to show in his classic, human form (with a dark purple/black version of the outfit) by having him send a vision to Mr Fantastic- or maybe even the whole world- and he appears to them in humanoid form bc that is less jarring to us Earthlings. Bam. Problem solved. He's an intergalactic force of nature, a dust cloud with an insatiable appetite, but he appears to us (or at least our smartest man, Reed Richards) as a giant man. <p> How easy would that have been? Seriously, Marvel Studios, hire me now.

  • March 21, 2010, 3:15 p.m. CST

    lotharius3rd1118, BixbySnyder

    by savagedave<p>Where it all began.

  • March 21, 2010, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Regarding Galactus, in Marvel continuity

    by Dingbatty

    "each sentient being perceives him having a form resembling his own." See pic for example:

  • March 21, 2010, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Casting Problems

    by Barron34

    Chris Evans as Captain America is a problem. He doesn't project a commanding presence and the mature, patriarchal gravitas that Cap needs. An Avengers movie could fail on this basis alone. They need to cast someone like Jon Hamm, Aaron Eckhart, or even Mark Valley as opposed to some too youthful actor. As far as the Captain America movie being an origin movie that needs a young actor: they could just show the Super-Soldier program as a Prologue or a Flashback, and then jump right in to WWII combat action with Cap as a grown man and mature and experienced battle-commander. With a little bit of ret-conning, they could establish that the Super-Soldier project was started years and years before the War, during Hitler's rise, in anticipation of hostilities. This would make Rogers young before the War, but mature and experienced during it. They could cast a look-alike actor to play the youthful Rogers in the Flashback/Prologue, or just leave Rogers out of it, and show the Super-Soldier Program in general (newsreel style?), and just state that Cap went through the Program without actually showing him doing it onscreen. The meat of the movie should be Cap in the midst of WWII, fighting Nazis and the Red Skull anyway. No one cares to see him as a skinny kid going through the Super-Soldier program. It should be a footnote at best. ***** Finally, as far as these actors being too old to play Cap: all of them would be fine to play Cap for the next 10 years or so, for however many Cap and Avengers movies they could do in this time frame. At that point the Studios will probably be re-casting Robert Downey Jr. as Stark/Iron Man, Ed Norton as Banner/Hulk, and any of these actors as Cap/Steve Rogers anyway. They will probably re-boot and re-cast in 10 or 15 years at most, so cast an experienced actor who is right for the role and who can last as long as Downey. Any of these actors would be right. Chris Evans and his ilk are too young, immature, and un-commanding for this role.

  • March 21, 2010, 3:44 p.m. CST

    Human Burrito

    by nukeboy1970

    There is a difference between being true factually to the source material and being true to the spirit of the source material. I would much rather have someone be true to the spirit. The Dark Knight varied the facts, but stayed true to the spirit of the source material.

  • March 21, 2010, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Where I'm coming from

    by deelzbub

    I've been reading comics since about 1974. Started with Harvey and DC, and eventually gravitated towards Marvel. Later banched out into independaents, then Vertigo, Dark Horse and others. Fairly well-read as far as comics goes. I don't always agree with all the stuff that Marvel has done. Some of the ret-con stuff springs to mind. But IMHO, the best stuff they ever put out has respect for and follows Marvel history.<P> I feel the same about the movies. If you're adapting an established character, whether it's James Bond, Conan, or Man-Thing - don't screw it up. If you feel you have to change so much (in terms of characterization, plot points,etc,) then just change the name of the movie to "Gilgamesh!"<P> And I'm alot older than 10, but I prob'ly would have jizzed my pants if they could've pulled off a giant fucking purple Galactus in FF #2! What a dissappointment that stupid dust cloud was!

  • March 21, 2010, 3:59 p.m. CST

    @nukeboy1970 and deelzbub

    by Dingbatty

    Agree, completely.

  • March 21, 2010, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Letterier has no vision. He said he couldn't

    by Dingbatty

    figure out a reason to justify The Abomination having reptilian features. Any genre fan could explain it without much thought. Just say the military scientists hoping to replicate the Super Soldier Serum on Blonsky added experimental reptile DNA, to attempt to give him a regenerative factor (lifted easily from the Lizard/Dr. Connor storyline).

  • March 21, 2010, 4:07 p.m. CST

    I think you're confused, nukeboy

    by TheHumanBurrito

    Since I don't ever state that accuracy is necessarily a good thing and am instead arguing FOR changes.

  • March 21, 2010, 4:15 p.m. CST


    by glasshalfempty

    Somebody tie up Brett Ratner and lock him in a basement until this decision is made--he MUST be "unavailable" when the suits inevitably consider him

  • March 21, 2010, 4:21 p.m. CST

    We need to see Kirby's and Ditko's vision

    by Dingbatty

    on the big screen. Psychedelic, interdimensional vistas, impossible machines of super science, mountainous gods in alien finery. Erase those two, and Marvel has lost its style. It's not enough to simply namedrop, like they did in those craptastic FF movies.

  • March 21, 2010, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Iron Man and Thor fighting together is exactly

    by strosmer

    what I'm looking forward to in an Avengers movie. Despite my own apprehensions, the Avengers movie is a fascinating project in both comics and movie history. A superhero crossover on the big screen? The Marvel Universe coming together in live action? Repulsor rays, lightning bolts, flying shields, and brute strength all working in conjunction to fend off a planetary threat? It's what we've been waiting to see in movies since we first read a comic, which is probably why Avengers will be a big fail among the fans. Way too many expectations for the immense action required, and rightly so. Whoever directs this, do right by the fans, do right by Marvel, bring a new vision and blow us away.

  • March 21, 2010, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Imagine Spidey 4 al a Ditko

    by deelzbub

    how great would that be? Worth seeing, at least.

  • March 21, 2010, 4:27 p.m. CST

    i find it hilarious that there's people

    by irc-Hollywood

    who actually believe David Fincher directed FlightPlan (2005)... please.

  • March 21, 2010, 4:29 p.m. CST

    sorry i was being a douche

    by irc-Hollywood

    I'm guessing the cat meant Panic Room. I guess you could easily make that mistake...

  • March 21, 2010, 4:31 p.m. CST


    by deelzbub

    Who's the big threat? Loki? Someone who can throw 5 or 6 different threats at 5 or 6 heroes, who defeat said threats and then use combined powers to defeat the boss foe?

  • March 21, 2010, 4:33 p.m. CST


    by deelzbub

  • March 21, 2010, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Fin Fang Foom!

    by deelzbub

  • March 21, 2010, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Johnton and Leterrier are both mediocre

    by reflecto

    This is the curse of Bryan Singer, geeks now celebrate mediocre hacks based on a single minor success.

  • March 21, 2010, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Letterier's enthusiasm...

    by Soundblaster

    ...suggests he would put a great deal of care into an AVENGERS film. 'Care' being the operative word, because creating a cohesive AVENGERS film is no mere pastiche. It's going to take time and thought, and above all a true understanding of the material. Letterier has shown his willingness- eagerness- to cooperate with Marvel on the matter. So, I'm sure Marvel Studios is waiting to see how well CLASH OF THE TITANS does before committing to Letterier. If CLASH is a success, one can expect Letterier to climb to the top of that list. I imagine he would do an excellent job.

  • March 21, 2010, 4:55 p.m. CST

    The biggest disappointment in the Avengers movie

    by Bruce of all Trades

    is the possibility of Norton not returning. Marvel fucked him over in The Incredible Hulk and now he won't do what they want him to do so they might not include Bruce Banner in The Avengers altogether. Sigh... the most awesome thing about The Avengers was the possibility of all these different superhero characters that we already know about interacting and working with each other. Norton's cool, level headed scientist demeanor next to RDJ's reckless, cocky, playboy genius act? Man, that would be so awesome. Throw in whoever they get to play cap (provided it's someone good) and Chris "Not Alexander Skarsgard" Hemsworth and it's a recipe for ownage.

  • March 21, 2010, 4:59 p.m. CST

    And some advice to the would-be director...

    by strosmer

    courtesy of Mr. Ridley Scott - "You got to stick to your guns. That's where you got to earn your way. How many people fall by the wayside by not pushing their point home? They don't quite get what they want. Nobody respects you later for having been a nice guy and given up. You gotta get it. You have to get it now, because you're gonna wear what you got. You can be very unpopular on the route, but if you're right, all is forgiven."

  • March 21, 2010, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Oh and how could I forget

    by Bruce of all Trades

    Mix it all up with Shaft wearing an eye-patch and serve it HOT!

  • March 21, 2010, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Going out on a limb here. . .

    by heyscot

    You can't take all of these actors who've had leads in their own movies and put them into a two-hour ensemble that will kick ass. Especially because the odds of one of these solo movies sucking badly are high. The incredible hulk just isn't a great movie--Hulk is a one-dimensional character who is boring to watch because he isn't in control of his powers or anger. Dammit.

  • March 21, 2010, 5:21 p.m. CST


    by Soundblaster

    Where did you get that Ridley Scott quote? I'm curious to know the context.

  • March 21, 2010, 5:29 p.m. CST

    This just a pipe dream

    by Amazing Maurice

    For fuck's sake, if this Avengers movie ever happens, I will personally shit in a bowl and use it for toothpaste.<P>I'll even fucking video it and stick it on youtube as proof.

  • March 21, 2010, 5:34 p.m. CST

    Soundblaster, it's from the Alien DVD commentary

    by strosmer

    As the shuttle is landing on the planet, Scott talks about having to literally shake the actors in their seats to make the rough landing look convincing, and the subsequent groaning of the cast and crew in order to get the shot done. That segues into his little diatribe there, which I'm very fond of.

  • March 21, 2010, 5:38 p.m. CST

    RE: GALACTUS, If Peter Jackson can have...

    by Continentalop

    The villain of the LOTR series be a big flaming eye on top of a tower, a purple giant with a big helmet should be a piece of cake. <P>

  • March 21, 2010, 5:40 p.m. CST

    And Adam West is the greatest Batman ever

    by Continentalop

    You might not like that version of Batman (campy 1950s Batman) but fucking don't go blaming West. He just captured the spirit of that era perfectly.

  • March 21, 2010, 5:56 p.m. CST


    by Soundblaster

    Excellent quote. Thank you for sharing.

  • March 21, 2010, 6:21 p.m. CST

    Fuck yeah.

    by Dr. Samuel Loomis

  • March 21, 2010, 6:25 p.m. CST

    And why not? He did a grand job with Incredible Hulk.

    by Mr Nicholas

  • March 21, 2010, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Ang Lees Hulk better than the Norton one


  • March 21, 2010, 7:10 p.m. CST

    A few things

    by Phategod2

    Johnston barely has anything on his resume that shows he can Direct a movie on the scope of Ironman or The Dark Knight, The same goes for Letterier, Darren Aronofsky, and Brad Bird seriously? The Guy has not Directed human Beings on a set in his life and you want him to direct a full ensemble cast. Peter Jackson Is probably the best candidate. And I stand behind My Ang Lee comment. It falls apart at the end but the scene Hulk VS. Tank and Apache copter scene trumps everything in The Incredible Hulk plus I appreciated that they ditched the Typical sorry-for-my-self Bruce Banner. I appreciated the fresh take and the way Bana's Banner aimed the Hulk like a gun which is pretty much where Norton's Banner heads at the end.

  • March 21, 2010, 7:33 p.m. CST

    That Hulk film was really bad.....

    by Mel Garga

    That said, I do want to see Clash.

  • March 21, 2010, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Since when

    by garybuseys_incisors

    did it become popular to like the Ang Lee Hulk and hate the Leterrier Hulk? Back when the newer Hulk was coming out, there was absolutely no love for the Ang Lee version, but now there is?

  • March 21, 2010, 8:08 p.m. CST

    the important thing is going to be the script

    by Kammich

    the director is a distant concern for me. I know the Avengers were a much more cohesive and constant unit in comics, but these type of "team-up" pieces rarely ever work even in that medium. I just can't see how anyone can juggle so many high-profile actors, high-profile character properties, and a high budget... and have it turn out okay. there are way too many conflicting interests. I kind of feel bad for anyone who has to end up directing this.

  • March 21, 2010, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Ang Lee's Hulk

    by nukeboy1970

    Started out poorly and ended poorly. I will grant you that the Hulk fighting in the desert was good, but that is it. The rest of teh movie was one, confusing mess.

  • March 21, 2010, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Ang Lee's Hulk

    by nukeboy1970

    Started out poorly and ended poorly. I will grant you that the Hulk fighting in the desert was good, but that is it. The rest of teh movie was one, confusing mess.

  • March 21, 2010, 8:44 p.m. CST


    by nukeboy1970

    I guess I am not popular. I still think Ang Lee's Hulk is an abortion of a movie.

  • March 21, 2010, 9:37 p.m. CST


    by Bouncy X

    thats just typical movie nerd actions / reactions. its just like until Indy 4 came out, i'd never heard of anyone having ANYTHING negative to say about any of them and then suddenly its official that 4 is coming and people are all "oh i always hated so and so sequel". just like when the Star Wars special editions came out, suddenly everyone "always" hated jedi and the ewoks and shit. its funny really seeing people back peddle just to seem cool to strangers they'll never meet.

  • March 21, 2010, 10:13 p.m. CST

    BREAKING NEWS-KANG announced as Avengers villain...

    by Jobacca

    Except they're going to call him Pootie-Kang and he's going to be played by Snoop Dogg. Fo' Shizzle!!!!

  • March 21, 2010, 10:37 p.m. CST

    They could just film a live action version

    by deelzbub

    of the Ultimate Avengers. Just loke the animated movie. Substitute Dire Wraiths for generic alien Chica-chicas and you've got a halfway decent movie.<P> or Skrulls

  • March 21, 2010, 10:38 p.m. CST


    by deelzbub


  • March 21, 2010, 11:35 p.m. CST

    Hasn't Marvel been bled dry yet?

    by MurderMostFowl

    Iron Man has some life in it, I suppose, but what will be next? DC will release a "Super Friends" movie? I can't wait to see if Michael Cera will play Gleek.

  • March 21, 2010, 11:55 p.m. CST

    Actually, Kang would be pretty fucking cool.

    by GeneralJackCosmo

    That is all.

  • March 22, 2010, 12:49 a.m. CST

    How about Krang instead?

    by D.Vader

    Yeah I just watched "Turtles Forever" in which the 1980's version of the cartoon Turtles crosses into the current cartoon Turtles' universe, and the original toon Turtles we know and love are shown as being jokey, pudgy, buffoons, and Krang and the Shredder as incompetent nincompoop villains. Which actually made me a bit sad. Bc we all know the 80s Turtles trump the current Turtles in every way... <p> ... Right?

  • March 22, 2010, 1:25 a.m. CST


    by Cobbio

    I think Leterrier is really turning into a solid director. He's got a visual style that I enjoy, and I've liked every movie he's made.<p> As for "The Avengers," I'm kind of indifferent. I'd rather see Leterrier direct a kickass film from an original script. Something we haven't seen before. Something NOT limited by superheroes. Something R-rated would be nice too.<p> The man definitely has the chops. I'd love to see him bust out an original. But if he directs an "Avengers" film before that, I guess it's cool. I'll wait.

  • March 22, 2010, 2:04 a.m. CST

    after reading Jobacca's comment

    by donduck

    he's one of the reasons why geekdom gets a bad rap. <p> no matter who you get even when there's quality, people will complain just to complain. When someone complains about both Nolan and Favs, then nothing will satisfy you.

  • March 22, 2010, 2:37 a.m. CST

    The suit that Norton clashed with is no longer at Marvel.

    by Ganymede3001

    So it's safe to say that Norton will be included in all future plans.

  • March 22, 2010, 4:04 a.m. CST

    I never complained about Favs

    by Jobacca

    Loved the first Iron Man and 2 looks great. I very rarely hear from people who thought Nolans two Bat-flicks were fun/enjoyable to watch. Are they well made? Hell yeah...but they're nowhere near as entertaining as the Burton Bat-flicks. And the animated series still rules them all when it comes to Batman. Part of the problem with the Nolan flicks is that they refuse to acknowledge the comic-book roots. By explaining each and every detail of Batmans m.o. you rob him of some of his mystique,and it slows the film down BIG TIME! How much of Begins was devoted to Morgan Freeman explaining where Batman get his suit and his mask and his car and the tires for his car and blah blah blah. Same thing in Dark Knight with the plane and the cell phone tech. Batman is fucking Batman...if he needs a plane he flys in on the Batwing. Same thing with his tech-if he wants to hack into cell phones he can...because hes the GODDAMN BATMAN!!! I sense a lot of these directors are so obsessed with making their films "realistic" that they often forget to make them "fun" as well.

  • March 22, 2010, 4:45 a.m. CST

    deelzbub, Rocketeer

    by MattmanReturns

    I share your Rocketeer love. Still waiting patiently for the Blu-Ray.

  • March 22, 2010, 5:25 a.m. CST

    Both hulk movies

    by Eyegore

    I liked both versions, but Ang Lee's sticks in my mind more. Two parts in particular, when they try extract DNA from the hulk with a giant needle in his eyeball, and even more memorable, the sequence where he travels through the desert by leaping, as he did in the comics. That scene, and where he destoyed the tank, weight equally in my mind with the entire second film. I'd have left out everything about Bruce Banner's whacked out father though. That's what ruined it for everyone.

  • March 22, 2010, 6:46 a.m. CST

    Batwing for Batman 3

    by BixbySnyder

    Bigelow for Avengers. Nuff said.

  • March 22, 2010, 6:54 a.m. CST

    Hulk is a divider

    by Dazzler69

    I liked Ang's Hulk story better than Louis's. But both were weak in overall story. I liked Hulk visually in Louis's. I would just skip Louis to be on the safe side.

  • March 22, 2010, 8:37 a.m. CST


    by irc-Hollywood

    do you think he'd do it?

  • March 22, 2010, 8:41 a.m. CST

    also Amazing Maurice

    by irc-Hollywood

    can we get this guy's name and address, maybe turn him into some kind of AICN celebrity, just so when the Avengers is released we can see him eat his own shit?

  • March 22, 2010, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Who cares about the director?

    by Dr. Hfuhruhurr

    Zak Penn is writing this, and he's written some crap. I have no confidence that this film will be great. Check that, my only hope is that Downey looks at the script and demands changes.

  • March 22, 2010, 9:21 a.m. CST

    The writer of...

    by Dr. Hfuhruhurr

    The Incredible Hulk, X3, and Electra is writing Avengers. Awesome.

  • March 22, 2010, 9:23 a.m. CST


    by TheUmpireStrokesBach

    Have to admit I kind of prefer Ang's HULK just cause it's so damned nuts! Though Leterrier's INCREDIBLE HULK really felt so much more like a comic-book in it's style and pacing.<p>If only we could shove both of them into one of Jeff Goldblum's pods and create some sort of BrundleHULK....

  • March 22, 2010, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Jennifer Connelly VS. Liv Tyler

    by TheUmpireStrokesBach

    I will not be shoving them anywhere near Goldblum's pods. I will instead anoint them with oils and perfumed unguents after offering them choice meat and game.

  • March 22, 2010, 10:28 a.m. CST

    I Have A Strong Suspican AVEGNERS Is Going To Epicly Suck

    by LaserPants

    Like it's gonna make Supergirl: The Movie look like The Dark Knight.

  • March 22, 2010, 10:28 a.m. CST

    I Also Think AVENGERS Is Going To Epicly Suck

    by LaserPants

    In addition to the AVEGNERS.

  • March 22, 2010, 10:29 a.m. CST

    I Have A Strong Suspicion AVENGERS Is Going To Epicly Suck

    by LaserPants

    In addition to my "suspicans" about the "AVEGNERS" sucking.

  • March 22, 2010, 10:30 a.m. CST

    You Want To Know What Else I Think?

    by LaserPants

    Me neither.

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  • March 22, 2010, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Ang Lee's HULK is fuckin' awesome! Haha

    by Joely_Boy

    Never before had you seen transitions between shots done to that effect. So original, and so ironic that for a 2D comic book character, his persona is psychologically so three dimensional!

  • March 22, 2010, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Ang Lee's HULK = Emo HULK: "HULK SAD!"

    by LaserPants

    The Incredible Hulk was crap, but at least it gave us HULK SMASH rather than HULK SAD.

  • March 22, 2010, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Ang Lee's Hulk was outside the box

    by Chishu_Ryu

    I'm not sure Ang Lee knows how to construct a typical mainstream box office formula money-maker, which of course, hurt it when it came to box office returns. I personally loved the daring risky nature of the film, and count it amongst my favorite super-hero films ever. As far as proximity to the source material, I think Ang Lee's film was actually more in the spirit of the 60's Hulk, while the movie by Leterriere was closer to the TV show. Ang Lee's film had so many elements from those old Stan Lee and Herbe Trimpe stories. We had Hulk versus the U.S. military in the American desert, Hulk versus various elemental villains like incarnations of Zzaxx and Golem, Hulk in space, a hint of Hulk's inner hatred of "puny human" Banner, and so on. The birth sequence of Hulk/Bruce Banner even reminded me of one classic Stan Lee Silver Age story from Silver Surfer #6, titled "Worlds Without End" in which the alien father's dread of the baby he has conceived in the midst of atomic experimentation mirrors David Banner's dread of the birth of Bruce. Very Marvel of Ang Lee to include these elements in his film, among other things.

  • March 22, 2010, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Turtles Forever

    by Bouncy X

    yeah i saw that a few months ago, i thought it was pretty cool. and yes they made the 80s version characters seem like goodie goodie idiots but it makes sense and i didn't take it as an insult. but compare the 80s show to the 00s and they are more goofy and funny and whatnot. but that goes for pretty much all 80s cartoons. so yeah i thought it was a cool "love letter" sorta thing towards it. i'd totally buy it if it was released on dvd/blu. my only complaint is they didnt get any of the original voice actors but that said, the new guys did a good job imitating.

  • March 22, 2010, 12:37 p.m. CST


    by LaserPants


  • March 22, 2010, 12:38 p.m. CST


    by nukeboy1970

    I think this goes back to a point i made about being true to the spirit or being true to the facts. All of those elements you listed were facts and most of it was not implemented to be true to the spirit. The only thing that felt right about Ang Lee's Hulk was the fight with the Army in the desert. That was done well. The origin was screwed up by adding more and more contributing factors. The end was screwed up by being confusing. One scene done right in the middle doesn't save the film. It doesn't feel like 60's Hulk at all to me. Leterriere also tapped into a more modern comics Hulk which was probably influenced by the TV show.

  • March 22, 2010, 12:38 p.m. CST

    (I Secretly Liked Ang Lee's HULK Too)

    by LaserPants

    BUT, I think the character is better served for smashing, not having father issues.

  • March 22, 2010, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Ang Lee's HULK was an artsy masterpiece

    by reflecto

    but not commercial enough for the suits. Leterrier's was just mediocre enough to get by, apparently.

  • March 22, 2010, 12:56 p.m. CST

    P.S. Hulk has always been emo with daddy issues

    by reflecto

    His psychological scarring from past traumas is what created the Hulk; this was well-established in the comics decades ago.

  • March 22, 2010, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Ang Lee's Hulk was definitely NOT a masterpiece

    by axelfoley

    Ang Lee can direct a movie. He's critically acclaimed and world-renown. But the man's not perfect, as if anyone is, and he tried WAY too hard to "legitimatize" a subject that didn't need legitmitizing. In other words, he arguably looked at the Hulk as being too black and white in terms of premise and, like a couple already mentioned, took a bold move of incorporating elements of Mythological folklore. Where this movie went wrong? For starters, the marketing of the film made this look like the Hulk movie it SHOULD have been--a non-stop action thrill ride. Universal released the fucking thing in the DEAD of summer, a time when people leave their level-headed film rationale at the door and want to be entertained. Coming off as the first Marvel flick to follow success of Spider-Man didn't help either, but that's only because of Lee's vision....The leads (Bana and Connelly) were stale after a short while, they had NO chemistry on screen whatsoever. The pacing of the movie was stilted. It was as if the filmmakers were like "what's next?". Oh, that Glen Cabot guy staring down the two lovebirds like some creepy jerk---GOOD, this'll be where we place the blue split screen!!!--almost like a paint by number cinematography stunt placed randomly at a scene that could've done well with out it. Some unimaginative stupid things, included the Hulk dogs. Bar none, a DUMB idea. Nick Nolte was INCREDIBLY annoying in this movie. We were supposed to dislike this prick. We get it. Universal, we get it. Don't make the guy a grown child that ruthlessly transform hybrid of a semi-popular villain from the comics (Crusher Creel) amalgamated with something from the set of the Neverending Story! Yeah, the ending felt a bit forced and rushed. Bana (nothing against him) was miscast. The fact that he was a really good looking guy didn't help his cause. No one said the Hulk was rocket science but it wasn't chop liver uninspired bullshit that needed a "brilliant re-working" either. The good of the movie? Well there were a couple of things. First was the theme music played in the beginning of and before the start of the closing credits. I thought it was one COOL theme for the Hulk. I wish they kept it for ILM. Also, as others mentioned, yes that 40 minute showdown between Green Goliath and the US army was TERRIFIC as fuck! I liked it alot. And a dark horse was Sam Elliot. I loved both General Ross' equally, although Elliot's was more like the guy he played in Mask with a cleaner, more kempt look. William Hurt's Ross was convincingly stern too, but was more from the comic books (green jacket, medals and all).

  • March 22, 2010, 1:13 p.m. CST

    nd about the missing squid climax, there was no reason they HAD

    by axelfoley

    That's like saying "OK, instead of this cheesy ending in Grease, let's have Danny and Sandy duke it out in their new duds for sole supremacy of Rydell High! Watchmen did not NEED to omit the climax. The change was fine, don't get me wrong, but the squid thing was a CRUCICAL element of the book!

  • March 22, 2010, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Ang Lee's Hulk was based on the novel Gladiator

    by chien_sale

    You know the novel that inspired Superman? I read it and it's pretty "outthere" and the guy becomes like this because of his father that experimented on his mother when she was pregnant. Pretty distubing stuff. The whole vibe of the book reminded me of Ang Lee's movie.

  • March 22, 2010, 1:56 p.m. CST

    I like the idea of giving Bigelow a shot. She's a hot director,

    by BanditDarville

    I'd love her to toss her panties my way, from my bed.

  • March 22, 2010, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Give it to Alex Proyas.

    by JudgeDredd

    There. Problem solved. You're welcome.

  • March 22, 2010, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Ang lee's Hulk was actually the better of the two.

    by Stalkeye

    i guess those that hate on this version found it a bit too "cerebal" or "esoteric" for their comprehension.<p> *Grin*

  • March 22, 2010, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Geez, Bigelow is almost 60

    by BixbySnyder

    And people give me grief on thinking Lucy Lawless is hot? (Agree on Bigelow being seriously hot though.) <p>Hotness aside, i think she would be a great choice.</p>

  • March 22, 2010, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Just because if you believe if it ain't broke don't fix it......

    by axelfoley

    it doesn't mean you have ADD. ADD isn't even funny. An American Idol contestant did "Eight Days a Week" as a country song. The cover of a Beatles song was given a country track. Did she commit a crime? Hell no! But it was AWFUL! If it ain't broke don't fix it. What the fuck is that so hard to relate that to Ang Lee's Hulk reimagining-in-disguise?????

  • March 22, 2010, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Dvader... that episode was awesome

    by MurderMostFowl

    The ending is absolutely perfect where they warp into the "source' universe and the comic book turtles kick all of their asses. <BR><BR> That whole movie deserves a standing ovation for creativity.

  • March 22, 2010, 8:49 p.m. CST

    In a desperate need to fit in

    by garybuseys_incisors

    AICN talkbackers all of the sudden love Ang Lee's Hulk. I thought the only cool thing about HULK was the desert action scene...That's pretty much it. THE INCREDIBLE HULK was 10x better. LL has decent vision, great passion for the material, and gave us HULK SMASH.

  • March 22, 2010, 9:18 p.m. CST


    by nukeboy1970

    Maybe you should read what people are actually saying. The movie was a confusing mess. That has nothing to do with being cerebral or esoteric.

  • March 22, 2010, 10:57 p.m. CST


    by Cobbio

    I thought Leterrier's "Hulk" was far better than Ang Lee's version. Leterrier's looked better, moved more compellingly, and kicked far more ass.<p> Honestly, as much of a fan as I am of Ang Lee, I thought "Hulk" was his worst film. For me it's almost unwatchable upon repeat viewings. As opposed to "Crouching Tiger" or "Lust, Caution," both of which are amazingly well-crafted films.<p> I just prefer Leterrier's version by a long shot.

  • March 22, 2010, 11:40 p.m. CST

    if only we could combine the best parts

    by ominus

    of both films.

  • March 23, 2010, 12:01 a.m. CST

    Avengers vs ?

    by deelzbub

    MODOK and A.I.M.<P> It may be too early to wish for an Avenger's mansion, but please,<P> please,<P>please give us the bathtub-lookin' Helicarrier!

  • March 23, 2010, 12:47 a.m. CST

    So many better choices

    by Evil E

    Almost anyone on this list would be a better option With a project this massive you need to give it to someone who's directed at least one great film. Letterier's directed a bunch of solid films with many issues. Which is what you'll get if you let him have the reigns on this.

  • March 23, 2010, 1:32 a.m. CST



    Get him! The job is his! He rules! Get Leterrier, get Norton! Don't make this movie without either of them! Anyone who hasn't seen 08's Hulk WILL have seen it after he's in Avengers--then you can make your bigass Hulk sequel, no problem! It's so easy! It's so beautiful!

  • March 23, 2010, 1:34 a.m. CST


    by Omni_Consumer_Products

    Finally, somebody who can direct action AND with CG characters who interact with dudes doing Captain America-style parkour??!?! Why is this even a question?!??!?!

  • March 23, 2010, 7:47 a.m. CST

    I say...

    by SunTzu77

    let this project die. It already reeks of massive failure.

  • March 23, 2010, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Lee > Leterrier Hulk

    by tronknotts

    I'll take a flawed-but-inspired take on a classic superhero over a polished-but-bland rerun of my 13 year old power fantasies any day.

  • March 25, 2010, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Could be great...IF

    by scifly

    The CLASH movie does not feel like the Mummy!

  • April 4, 2010, 2:34 a.m. CST

    Thor Promo Poster !!!!!v=YXp_jyk9

    by avenger0102