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Published at: March 18, 2010, 7:56 p.m. CST

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The first episode of “Doctor Who” since controversial longtime showrunner Russell T. Davies exited the series won’t hit the BBC until April 3 and won’t hit BBC America until April 17, but Den Of Geek has already seen it. Excerpt:
If we were being ultra-critical we’d argue that the story itself is ultimately the weakest part of The Eleventh Hour (although we did love elements of it, which again we don't want to spoil here), yet that’d be really tough criticism. Because like it or lump it, this episode came with responsibility on its shoulders (being a mix of opening episode, new era for the programme and new actors to bed in), and Moffat deals with it brilliantly at times. Some of his one liners are outstanding, too, and he's clearly having great fun with the comedy elements of the show. The absolute highlight for us was the superb way that the new assistant is brought into the story. It's just brilliant. Again, no spoilers, short of to say that by the time the end credits roll, understandable layers of depth to the character of Amy Pond have already been added as a result. That’s some achievement, and it’s going to stand the show in good stead.
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  • March 18, 2010, 7:35 p.m. CST

    I'm looking forward to this

    by ISleptWithKathyBatesAndAllThatIGotWasThisStupidTalkbackName

    I'm not too keen on the new catchphrase, but it's going to be an interesting ride. I can't wait to see what Moffat does with Who.

  • March 18, 2010, 7:45 p.m. CST

    GERONOMO!!!!

    by Dallas1701D

    I'll take it. Like I used to say about Star Trek, even a bad WHO episode is still better than 90% of the crap on the tele.

  • March 18, 2010, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Geronimo

    by Idontneedausername

    I don't think it's a catchphrase. When he says it in the trailer you can see the fire, he's obviously crashing the TARDIS.

  • March 18, 2010, 8:12 p.m. CST

    Catchphrase.....

    by Pogue__Mahone

    It most certainly is... much like Tennant's 'Allons-y!'... I can't wait to see what Smith and Moffatt bring to the Tardis!!!

  • March 18, 2010, 8:18 p.m. CST

    I'm rewatching the past 4 series in anticipation...

    by MisterE

    I'm a 42-year-old scifi geek that didn't get into Doctor Who until the 2005 relaunch, and I'm really looking forward to the upcoming series. Like most fans of The Doctor, I think that Steven Moffat wrote the best episodes of the past 4+ series and can't wait to see what he will do as the new show runner. <p> About 12 months ago I decided to check out some old Who and have since watched everything from the 3rd Doctor's (Jon Pertwee) first episode through the end of the 7th Doctor's (Sylvester McCoy) run. The first two Doctors' runs have episodes that have been lost to the ages, and the completist in me hasn't allowed me to check out those two eras. Not that anyone cares, but my ranking of Doctors 3-10 are: <p> Pertwee > McCoy > Tom Baker > Eccleston > Tennant > Davison > Colin Baker > McGann <p> I place the Jon Pertwee and Sylvester McCoy eras far above the rest (with an honorable mention to early Tom Baker episodes), and kinda wish that the 1996 TV movie starring Paul McGann had been ignored as out-of-continuity. I actually like Colin Baker as The Doctor more than Peter Davison, but think that he was given the worst possible material with which to work.

  • March 18, 2010, 8:25 p.m. CST

    i have high hopes for this

    by jon pertwee

    first time athiest has actually looked forward to easter, save for the easters when lowes has a timber and nail sale.

  • March 18, 2010, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Hey, MisterE!

    by thethedew

    By all means check out 1960's B&W Who. Everything from then to the present is based on the format established and mastered in The Troughton years. I'd try 'Tomb of the Cybermen' first. (Supposedly Matt Smith is a big fan of Troughton's 2nd Doctor, and the 11th Doctor's new costume is roughly based on the 2nd Doctor's costume) <p> If you're at all put out by the missing episodes, recall that they're ALL available in at least audio form - because fans were holding old tape recorders up to their TV's back then! Amazing.

  • March 18, 2010, 8:53 p.m. CST

    That wasn't a review...

    by Human_Bean_Juice_

    that was just...blugh!

  • March 18, 2010, 9:17 p.m. CST

    TotC almost killed my who fandom in its infancy

    by WickedJacob

    If your looking for good b&w who, try "the aztecs" and "the time meddler."

  • March 18, 2010, 9:40 p.m. CST

    thethedew and WickedJacob...

    by MisterE

    thethedew and WickedJacob, thanks for the suggestions! I'm sure that I'll eventually get around to watching whatever is available from the first two Doctors' eras, but right now I'm about mid-ways through re-watching Series Four of the relaunched Who. I'm trying to finish this marathon before the new series begins in April.

  • March 18, 2010, 9:40 p.m. CST

    ISleptWithKathyBatesAndAllThatIG otWasThisStupidTalkbackName

    by Dharma4

    I bet that's annoying when you accidentally don't spell your username right... and I am really nervous with the watching of the New Doctor. Matt Smith sure has a lotta responsibility in his shoulders..

  • March 18, 2010, 10:25 p.m. CST

    Matt Smith is going to be an awesome Doctor

    by SmokingRobot

    Yes indeedy. Can't wait. And thank God Russell Davies is gone. I'm so sick of his heavy-handed melodrama.

  • March 18, 2010, 11:07 p.m. CST

    *CRY No Flashforward TB?!

    by blhotz

    What an epic mid-season episode tonight! Charlie... I mean Simon PWNED!

  • March 19, 2010, midnight CST

    Review?

    by Mister_Eko

    That was a review? Seriously? Um....no. No, it wasn't. That wasn't anything at all, in fact. There's no reason to believe they even saw the episode, based on what was written.

  • March 19, 2010, 1:19 a.m. CST

    Moffat and Smith...

    by smellmycheese

    ... are going to be superb. Amy Pond sounds like she's going to be an excellent companion too from what I've seen and read.<br><br>I'm not going to criticise the RTD-scripted era here because after 5 years of it, and endless discussion, I think we're all ready to leave it in the past. I will say, however, that I'm expecting all the great things we've come to expect of new Who and none of the dross. <br><br>I'm anticipating a very tight, coherent and entertaining series that's as retro as it is fresh. <br><br>IMO, if the first episode of the new series manages to reboot AND entertain then it'll have succeeded on every level.

  • March 19, 2010, 2:13 a.m. CST

    reading between the lines

    by V'Shael

    saying it doesn't compare well with the specials, it was never going to be vintage Doctor Who, the tone is the same as RTD's, it's aimed at a "younger" audience, we suggest "expectation management". <p> They're telling us it was shit, aren't they?

  • March 19, 2010, 2:46 a.m. CST

    Can't wait till easter

    by INWOsuxRED

    I wish we would have gotten a full Tennant and Moffat season, but I have high hopes for Matt Smith.

  • March 19, 2010, 3:02 a.m. CST

    I want to be excited by this..

    by TinSpider

    but everything I've seen so far looks like it's getting to young and trendy. That 'vortex' teaser is fucking awful with the tacky 'doctor..doctor who?' and the meaningful looks into each others eyes. <br> I hope it hasn't been turned into a romance based show to satisfy the 'Twishite' generation of teens.

  • March 19, 2010, 3:44 a.m. CST

    Why Bless me Doctor...

    by Master Bruce

    why is it the older I get the younger you become? Luv Moffat, but the jury's still out on Mr. Smith. I too have my favorite Doctors, but my standard reply, like The Brigadier is always; "Wonderful chap...all of them." I certainly hope this will still hold true. And hey, Mr.E, you have to watch the first 3 seasons of Tom Baker, MUST-SEE-WHO-TV!

  • March 19, 2010, 4:12 a.m. CST

    "That 'vortex' teaser is fucking awful"

    by buggerbugger

    You've got that right. Dreadful cack, that teaser.

  • March 19, 2010, 4:32 a.m. CST

    Vortex trailer

    by Steve T

    I pretty much ignore that trailer, it's very gimmicky 3D and that just doesn't translate well to 2D. Damned excited about the new series, enjoyed the clip I saw last night on the BBC site. Will be avoiding spoilers as much as I can! Also, interesting to see love for McCoy from someone looking back with an open mind. i love his era (well it was my era i guess) and his last two series could have been outstanding if they had a budget larger than my rent!

  • March 19, 2010, 4:51 a.m. CST

    The character of Amy Pond has depth?

    by Shan

    You see what they've done here?

  • March 19, 2010, 5:06 a.m. CST

    Hmmm. Very odd review...

    by spud mcspud

    ...Tells you very little about the actual episode - all under the guise of not giving away spoilers (it can't ALL be spoilers, can it?? Give us SOMETHING!!). And then this little bit that had me alarmed:<P> "The key to getting the most out of The Eleventh Hour, we’d suggest, is a bit of expectation management. We’ve just come off the back of two or three special episodes that were bringing a whole era of Doctor Who to an end, and if you put a season opener next to them, then you’re inevitably going to be disappointed. "<P> Disappointed? Next to that shitstorm THE END OF TIME?<P> If this pilot episode is WORSE that those four shitty specials of last year, then Moffat has spectacularly dropped the ball. Good thing, then, that I choose to believe that this reviewer is talking out of their arse, and that this will comfortably wipe the floor with the feeble tear-streaked whimper of an ending RTD gave to arguably the best Doctor thus far.<P> Oh, and Karen Gillan? Best Companion EVER. Yes, I know I haven't seen it yet, but I've seen her in THE KEVIN BISHOP SHOW, and she's a gifted comedy actress, impressionist, actress in general - and is spectacularly gorgeous! Billie Piper, here is your replacement... :D

  • March 19, 2010, 5:09 a.m. CST

    I hope you're right Spud.

    by V'Shael

    That review seemed like they desperately didn't want to say it was shit.

  • March 19, 2010, 5:14 a.m. CST

    V'shael...

    by TinSpider

    Getting the same vibe.

  • March 19, 2010, 5:26 a.m. CST

    the intention of moffat to bring in other writers..

    by emeraldboy

    is very welcome. to paraphrase ben linus. talkbackers are fickle bitches.

  • March 19, 2010, 5:28 a.m. CST

    if this site goes from davies bashing to

    by emeraldboy

    moffat bashing. I will stop posting.

  • March 19, 2010, 5:47 a.m. CST

    I don't think I could ever bash Moffat

    by V'Shael

    He's been too good over the years. But that doesn't mean he gets a free pass. <p> "Curse of the Fatal Death" may have been done for Comic Relief, but it was as funny as testicular cancer. If his episodes are RTD-like, or worse CotFD-like, then why would say "Good job! Well done!"?

  • March 19, 2010, 6:16 a.m. CST

    Allons-y

    by PrivateIron

    Shouldn't the TARDIS have always translated that into English? Not usually a nitpicker by trade; I think I just hate the writing for the Tennant era in general. I make a distinction between the eras and the actors: I think Troughton and Eccleston were the best actors to play the Doctor, even though Pertwee (Years 1-4) and T Baker (Years 1-5) had the best run of shows. Romana 1 and Ace have grown on me, but my heart will always belong to Leela of the Sevatim.

  • March 19, 2010, 6:19 a.m. CST

    Liz Shaw

    by PrivateIron

    was probably the most underrated character of any era. They dropped her in favor of dingbat extrordinare Jo Grant because she came off as smarter and more capable than the Doc sometimes.

  • March 19, 2010, 6:23 a.m. CST

    Allons-y : Tardis translation

    by V'Shael

    The Tardis's telepathic translation circuits have only ever been vaguely referred to in the series. But the sensible way for such a system to operate, given that languages often evolve from older languages, and borrow words and phrases or whatever, is to treat Allons-y as an imported word/phrase, understood even by English speakers. <p>

  • March 19, 2010, 6:37 a.m. CST

    Translation

    by PrivateIron

    I was mostly being snarky because I don't like the catch phrase and a lot else from the Tennant era. I know that they have never really dealt with the mechanics of the telepathic circuits in any sensible way, even the reference in Fires of Pompeii was kind of a muddle if I remember correctly. But I do agree with you, V'Shael, that the TARDIS is obviously picking up the fact that the Doctor is being a pretentious prat when he says "Allons-y;" so it leaves it as a borrowed phrase for the clearest translation of his meaning.

  • March 19, 2010, 6:55 a.m. CST

    BBC review

    by mulberry

    BBC has a rather muted review as well. Seems to be based on the story being confusing and the Doctor's portrayal being a bit weird. <b>Not too worried. Main complaint will be that it's not like Tennant (and if it had been that it wasn't as good). Takes a little time for these things to bed in<b> http://tinyurl.com/ygq6pyw

  • March 19, 2010, 7:21 a.m. CST

    New Start.................

    by blackflowerX

    Maybe the BBC just want people to judge for themselves , maybe the first few episodes will be a bit shit , time will tell .... As long as theres no shitty effects , no farting aliens , and no Peter Kay/ Captain Jack , it'll be a good start .... Fingers crossed....

  • March 19, 2010, 7:26 a.m. CST

    Reviews across all the UK press

    by penhapus

    all are positive (if not exactly critical sources); I think it's fair enough to say Episode one is good but limit your expectations; it's got two new characters to bed in, potential new viewers to attract, etc. Moffat is a better writer than Russell T - it's in safe hands.

  • March 19, 2010, 7:32 a.m. CST

    Sylvester McCoy RULES

    by Lloydywho

    Yay finally someone else giving some love to Sly McCoy. I really love some of his episodes. One of my all time favourites is remembrance of the daleks. A true classic classic who. It feels so good to be able to say Sly McCoy is good and not get stared at like you have just microwaved a kitten. Really looking forward to Matt Smith, the new series is very reminiscent of Tom Baker taking over from Jon Pertwee. You might remember how that went, kinda worked out well for all of us.

  • March 19, 2010, 8:16 a.m. CST

    Reviews with a bit of hestitation

    by shutupfanboy

    Most of the reviews seem to giving it good reviews based how good it will be in the future and not in the episode itself. The episode seems just ok and the characters are going to have to carry this. I do think the Muppet faced new Doctor will wear people out as for the new assistant, its wait and see. I think people will be begging for the 10th Doctor back at the end of the season.

  • March 19, 2010, 8:18 a.m. CST

    Does anyone else remember the first episode of New Who?

    by smellmycheese

    The one with the plastic Mickey and the burping dustbin? Because I do and fuck me it was dreadful.<br><br>This episode is allegedly confusing? Good, it will give the children a bonkers time-travelling story to enjoy and wrap their heads around rather than the junk food TV that they're usually force fed by lazy parents and manipulative marketers. <br><br>As it is, I strongly suspect if it is 'confusing' it will only be confusing to thick people who would rather be tuning in to Ant and Dec's Saturday Night Takeaway or watching X Factor.<br><br>If the UK reviewers are giving the impression that it's not that good then I can't wait because they all lapped up the trite RTD wrote.

  • March 19, 2010, 8:20 a.m. CST

    I applied for a job on the new series.

    by Smashing

    I didn't get it, now I'm depressed and it is 1318 and I'm still in bed, Who is dangerous and ruins lives.

  • March 19, 2010, 8:21 a.m. CST

    BBC review is good...

    by spud mcspud

    It seemed to me to be saying it's more complex so might lose RTD viewers - GOOD! Old WHO quite often had some complex ideas in it, which RTD promptly threw out in his dumbing down of the series. Moffat writes complicated plots which make great use of the time travel concept (especially BLINK and SILENCE IN THE LIBRARY / FOREST OF THE DEAD) and his writing doesn't stop to wait for you, it dares you to keep up and stay with him. This could be a GOOD thing - maybe kids today aren't as dumb as RTD seemed to think they were (and wrote in that way for); maybe they'll get it, keep up with it and love it!! I think they will.<P> I DO wish people would stop going on about how they think Matt Smith is ugly. That guy will be a character actor for the rest of life - and good for him! Has a non-conventionally "hero" looking face stopped William H Macy, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Steve Buscemi, Mark Wahlberg, John C Reilly etc from doing great roles in great movies? Hell NO, and ditto for Matt! He has a fantasticface for camera - shoot him with a blank expression from 16 different angles and you'll get 16 different moods, looks and intentions. I think his face is just endlessly fascinating, and if the acting chops are there too (and I'm told they are - I haven't seen anything he's done) then he'll go a long, long way. I can't WAIT for this new WHO - and we get a new, biggest yet TARDIS too! (Though I think they'll have to go a long way to be McGann's - I mean, his TARDIS was a CATHEDRAL!!). <P> Moffat's reign will be great and mighty. And I have nothing but the highest hopes for Matt Smith and Karen Gillan - they will be SPECTACULAR!!

  • March 19, 2010, 8:22 a.m. CST

    Smashing

    by spud mcspud

    Sorry to hear it, mate. What was the job, you lucky bastard?? (Well unlucky given that you didn't get it, but still...)

  • March 19, 2010, 8:31 a.m. CST

    McCoy love = Love that dare not speak its name

    by spud mcspud

    I'm proud to say - I LOVED SYLVESTER MCCOY AND SOPHIE ALDRED'S REIGN!!!<P> Give me Ace over Rose any day of the week. McCoy was the one who FIRST had a Dalek levitate (up a flight of stairs, no less!), and his speech to the last Dalek that Skaro no longer existed was amazing. He was mad, funny, brave, smart, and a complete lunatic all together - and Ace was more than a match for him. I'd have loved to have seen two 13-ep seasons with RTD era SFX with those two - just awesome stuff!<P> So, I'm proud to say - I LOVED ACE AND McCOY'S DOCTOR!!

  • March 19, 2010, 8:33 a.m. CST

    @smellmycheese : Do we remember the bin?

    by V'Shael

    Hell yes. I hated Rose as an episode, and didn't watch the show at all when it started, until a friend showed me "Fathers Day" and I went back to the show. I quickly realised the problem was RTD's scripts. Most everyone else was pretty decent. <p> Even aside from rubber Micky and the devouring dustbin, my biggest question was how the hell did all the shop dummies have guns in their hands? <p> This (to me) showed that RTD had only a vague recollection of the original autons. In that story, the fact that a manniquin manufacturing plant was embedding the guns into the product was a major plot point. <p> Typical shoddy plotting from RTD. Move quick and hope no one stops to think. <p> I do expect better from Moffat.

  • March 19, 2010, 8:34 a.m. CST

    Real McCoy

    by mulberry

    Horrible during the Langford time<p>But Curse of Fenric was brilliant.

  • March 19, 2010, 8:34 a.m. CST

    smellmycheese

    by spud mcspud

    Yep, rewatched ROSE not so long ago - Ecclestone in certain scenes is just DREADFUL - I mean, seriously awful. Sub-sixth-form-drama acting. I like the Nestene Consciousness, and that whole scene talking to it, and the new style Autons - but agreed, plastic Mickey was awful. Shame Clive had to die, though. Great character!<P> Moffat won't let us down - count on it. And I'm all for anything that demands its viewers to THINK - and you're right: the dumb need not apply. They can fuck off back to ITV, which seems to see stupidity as something to aspire to. Can no-one else see that Cowel is the Anti-Christ of modern music? DAAAAAMN...

  • March 19, 2010, 8:37 a.m. CST

    @Sylvestor McCoy - Ka Faraq Gatri

    by V'Shael

    Yeah, I've never been a part of who-fandom, never gone to cons, etc.. so I have never had to justify my love of McCoy's reign to anyone. <p> His performances in Remembrance of the Daleks, Ghost Light, Battlefield and Survival are particular faves. <p> The character really came into his own in the books published by Virgin. And anytime he's done an audio book with Big Finish productions (some of them with Sophie Aldred) he still brings his 'A' game. <p> "Ka Faraq Gatri" ... "Bringer of Darkness" (or "Nice guy -- if you're a biped")

  • March 19, 2010, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Glad that the new credits sequence is being withheld

    by SpyGuy

    I'm understandably curious about what it's like, especially the newest version of the theme music, but at least holding it back will make the televised premiere more special. <p>As for Matt Smith, everything I've read or seen in interview clips screams eccentric and quirky, which should suit his Doctor well. Tennant was brilliant, but often came off far too hip and cool rather than strange and here's hoping Matt Smith can bring some of that back.</p>

  • March 19, 2010, 8:43 a.m. CST

    I've gotten over tennant leaving

    by FrodoFraggins

    He's my second favorite, only behind Tom Baker. But he had a good run and I'm excited to see what moffat does

  • March 19, 2010, 8:44 a.m. CST

    A turd sandwich would better that RTD.

    by Royston Lodge

    Grand Moffat has nowhere to go but up.<p> I wanna know, has the new Doctor changed the desktop theme on the TARDIS?

  • March 19, 2010, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Spud McSpud...

    by LordPorkington

    You've spoken nothing but sense on here, how refreshing to read! McCoy was a cracking Doctor, and I really wish they'd been able to do the lost series based on the 'Cartmel Masterplan', which included The Doctor's claim to being 'far more than just another Time Lord'. I think Matt and Karen will prove to be a revelation combined with Moffat's guidance of the show. They all just need time to settle in first and find their feet. Geronimo!

  • March 19, 2010, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Proper Review

    by Desmondo

    Bit more extensive here: http://tinyurl.com/yak7oev

  • March 19, 2010, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Master Bruce (RE: Tom Baker)...

    by MisterE

    Master Bruce, thanks for the suggestion, but I've already seen all of the Tom Baker episodes and like them. As I posted above, my favorite Who eras are Pertwee, McCoy, and early Tom Baker.

  • March 19, 2010, 10:31 a.m. CST

    I'm excited...

    by Barrymore

    to see the new season now! Let's give Moff and Matt some time to build the show into their own. I bet it's going to be good! (And I also have to say that I was very disappointed by all of the Specials...kind of ended up as a lame way to send out Tennant.)

  • March 19, 2010, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Yep. McCoy was AMESOME!

    by HarryBlackPotter

    Met him once at the Edinburgh festival and had a drink with him. Wonderful man.

  • March 19, 2010, 11:32 a.m. CST

    I loved Russell but change is good

    by reflecto

    Bring it.

  • March 19, 2010, 12:09 p.m. CST

    All hail the Grand Moff! - SPOILERS!!!

    by kwisatzhaderach

    The word on the street is... Smith is SPECTACULAR as The Doctor, no more gurning mockney but a layered, thoughtful, alien interpretation. Gillan is luminous as Amy, there is a flashback to the previous 10 Doctors in a moving moment near the finale of the episode, the new TARDIS console room is on three levels and is spectacular... and later in the series Moffat is bringing back the REAL Cybermen from our universe, Winston Churchill uses the Daleks to win WWII and there are Spitfires dogfighting in space. <p> Fuck yeah!

  • March 19, 2010, 12:34 p.m. CST

    I met Mc

    by Damned if I can login

  • March 19, 2010, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Cybermen from Mondas? How sure are you?

    by V'Shael

    I know it has been theorised online, and would be awesome if true. So sick of "DELETE!" in their pathetic attempt to get a catchphrase like Exterminate.

  • March 19, 2010, 12:38 p.m. CST

    I met McCoy in the late 80s

    by Damned if I can login

    It was a small gathering of about 50 fans in DC, just after he was awarded the role. He was damned cool.<p>Someone asked him what he would bring to the role personally, and he said "Well, I do a good fall." And he swung both feet up in the air making his body horizontal and made a 4ft drop like a sack of potatoes.<p>It was *awesome*.

  • March 19, 2010, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Wanna see good Dalek?

    by Damned if I can login

    Do a quick search on "Pakistani Dalek". It's a short comedy sketch about a Dalek coming home after work. Good stuff.

  • March 19, 2010, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Liked that little clip at the end of the BBC interview

    by V'Shael

    I can imagine that the 5 minute hop into the future is more like 10 years, and that's why Amy joins him as a grown up.

  • March 19, 2010, 1:16 p.m. CST

    V'Shael

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Pretty sure. Apparently there are cybusmen and rusted different Cybermen similiar to the classic series ones. There are definitely two different kinds of Cybermen in the new series.

  • March 19, 2010, 1:20 p.m. CST

    V'Shael

    by smellmycheese

    That's pretty much the rumour I've heard. What a brilliant way to introduce a new companion. I have nothing but confidence in this new series.<br><br>(And though OT, I do enjoy your and Chief Brody's postings on the LOST TB. A refreshing change from the usual juvenile shite I have to scroll past while the kids are awake and the grown ups are asleep... if you know what I mean...)

  • March 19, 2010, 1:34 p.m. CST

    spud mcspud

    by smellmycheese

    Again, I've always enjoyed your New Who reviews and TBs. I don't post a great deal but I read a lot and I always read your posts. I know you've come in for some flack when speaking out against RTD's writing and shoe-horning of certain social commentary over the years. I think we can all breathe a sigh of relief that Moffat is more interested in delivering compelling stories and entertaining an audience of all ages and persuasions and not just massaging his own ego.

  • March 19, 2010, 2:04 p.m. CST

    slyvester McCoys problem was that

    by emeraldboy

    Micheal Grade was openly hostile to dr who. and McCoy said that all the actors and crew were unaware of Dr who's fate untill they read about it in the sun or news of the world. Grade made a very short terse statement saying something like The dr and tardis had ended up in black whole and would not be coming back.

  • March 19, 2010, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Current issue of SFX with "3D" cover

    by smellmycheese

    I don't know if anyone else has seen this month's edition of SFX but it has a "3D" Doctor Who cover and it's simply stunning.<br><br>Inside, there's a multi-page feature (or advert ;) on the new series. I particularly liked this piece of the article, referring to Matt Smith's face:<br><br>"A face not so much loved by the camera as one that intrigues, enchants and perplexes it. Does it belong to an indie kid scenester or a dashing English air ace? A Bletchley Park boffin or a punch-nosed Walthamstow boxer? It belongs to all of them and more. The camera probes and prowls, uncovering new and contradictory facets with each change of angle. It's a face that's simultaneously handsome, strange, haunted, mischievous, innocent and ancient. A paradox of a face, beneath a Brideshead flop of a fringe."<br><br>If this beautifully poetic description can be easily summarised by tabloid newspapers and Heat magazine as "ugly" then so be it. Matt Smith, the Eleventh Doctor, is 'ugly'. There's some dancing and singing shit on ITV, featuring some beautiful, shiny, colourful and vacuous people; I suggest you watch that instead. The grown ups, whatever their age, will be watching BBC One.

  • March 19, 2010, 2:23 p.m. CST

    What are the odds of us getting a '3 Doctors' special?

    by Manos

    We've got three healthy, young incarnations. It would be a hoot to watch Eccelston and Tennant pick on the new guy. "We become a GIRL???"

  • March 19, 2010, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Odds are against it.

    by V'Shael

    Ecclestone is not the sort to do it, and I think David is not exactly anxious to return to the Tardis any time soon.

  • March 19, 2010, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Slightly OT but Since we have a new Doctor I wonder if

    by spike fan

    they will do younger Master too. Simm's OTT was ok but the old style Delgado was quality. Besdies the Daleks the Master as the Doctors old friend turned best of enemies is still the best villan the show has and if they are bringing the Cybers back they should bring the Master back too. As for the Mcoy era I thought Mcoy was great he just had to work with shitty scripts as by then the BBC had given up on Who and so was just bringing out any old rubbish.

  • March 19, 2010, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Isn't the Master done, by now?

    by V'Shael

    I think we've seen the end of his story. He knows why he was born, what his destiny was, and he even turned good at the end, saving the Doctor while killing all the Time Lords. I think he's done. I think any portrayal of the Master now as some sort of villain, would be a huge step backwards for the character.

  • March 19, 2010, 3:55 p.m. CST

    I hope they dont bring back..

    by emeraldboy

    davros. just yet. on john simm. I wonder could they get him to play the dr. in a few years.

  • March 19, 2010, 7:17 p.m. CST

    smellmycheese, LordPorkington

    by spud mcspud

    You are far too kind.<P> **blushes profusely**<P> smellmycheese - I've got the latest SFX, and it's a gorgeous article! Matt does seem quite vulnerable to all the negative criticism over his looks, and I think a lot of his critics forget that he's a person like you or I - he has an ego and feelings, and right now he's being pilloried for not being Taylor Lautner or whoever. Sod them all! He'll be great, Karen will be great and we KNOW Moffat is great. Sit back and ready yourself for the new golden age of DOCTOR WHO!!<P> **looks nervously over his shoulder, crosses fingers for luck**

  • March 19, 2010, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Sylvester McCoy is the best doctor EVER!

    by AD_Skinner

    I have no words for how awesome the seventh doctor is. McCoy is king. Ace is the best companion ever. The McCoy era was a second golden age for Doctor Who.

  • March 20, 2010, 1:27 a.m. CST

    Well I hope the Moff and Matt Smith...

    by smellmycheese

    ... stumble across this talk back and see the responses posted here. I think it's fair to say they've got universal support from their audience (whether you're a hardcore Whovian or a more casual fan like me). I don't expect the first episode to be perfect, few first episodes of anything ever are, but I almost guarantee it'll leave all with a feeling of anticipation rather than dread.<br><br>Personally I can't wait.

  • March 20, 2010, 1:42 a.m. CST

    New, New Who

    by smellmycheese

    A new Doctor, a new companion, a new TARDIS interior, a new creative team, a new logo and a new interpretation of the theme tune and opening title sequence.<br><br>These prospects fill me with anticipation and joy, not fear and dread. The show is nearly 50 years old and the role has previously been played by 10 different actors. It's not like we haven't been here before.<br><br>It's on 2 weeks today gentlemen. Happy Easter!

  • March 20, 2010, 2:42 a.m. CST

    You know when you just have a good feeling about things...

    by dj_bollocks

    All the pictures and spoilers (and I can heartily recommend www.themindrobber.co.uk ) just ooze quality... We get to see River Song before she turned up in the Library with the Weeping Angels... Oh I feel positive reviews a-coming....

  • March 20, 2010, 4:08 a.m. CST

    V'shael you could make the same argument

    by spike fan

    Over the Daleks/cybermen etc. Besides even including the shit fest that was the EoT he was doing that to get revenge on Rassilion not simply to help the Doctor. But the Master works as he is the Doctors doppleganger and old friend whereas one likes to travel around time and space helping people he wants to conquer them, and his motivation is not so much to kill the Doctor but to beat and outsmart him. There were scenes in the classic who where he and the Doctor would have (one way to put it) time outs and they are friends. There is a great scene where the two companions with that doctor are wondering arnt they ment to be enemies. Before the Masters jeleousy off the doc comes to the fore again. Besides a fresh and yonger version to mirror Matt Smith would be a great villan.

  • March 20, 2010, 4:57 a.m. CST

    New trailer on Youtube

    by penhapus

    Lots to see here including the much talked about Cyberman, WWII Dalek and Spitfires in space... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT_j2uw4b3w&feature=player_embedded (anyone wanting to cry spoiler will have to promise me they weren't going to watch telly or look at the web over the next fortnight, otherwise you wouldn't miss this)

  • March 20, 2010, 7:07 a.m. CST

    Watched that trailer. No Mondas cybermen in it.

    by V'Shael

  • March 20, 2010, 7:27 a.m. CST

    McCoy's costume

    by Steve T

    McCoy hated the question Marks too. He wanted a de question marked version of it. I'd like to see the Master again, just not for a few years. Ideally I'd like a break from the Daleks too, but the busniess side of the Beeb is never gonna let that happen. There were definately parts of the RTD era I wasn't fond of (the sci fi aspect has been very weak) but I do wish people would give him credit for the good and not just slam him for the bad. Also, I wonder why so many people who hate his era watched it for 5 years!

  • March 20, 2010, 7:33 a.m. CST

    Cause he did not write them all?

    by V'Shael

    And it was the only Dr. Who on?

  • March 20, 2010, 7:36 a.m. CST

    But...

    by Steve T

    He was the producer and head writer, he had his hand in them. And watch something else!

  • March 20, 2010, 7:48 a.m. CST

    Just saw the new Who trailer...................

    by axcel1

    And, I did see the old school Cyberman. YES!!!!!!! they are BACK!!!!!!!!

  • March 20, 2010, 7:53 a.m. CST

    Damn

    by Steve T

    I need to rewatch the trailer, I missed the old school cybers! Been waiting for them!

  • March 20, 2010, 7:54 a.m. CST

    Oh, and, I think........................

    by axcel1

    The new Doctor will have a catchword and catchphrase in the new series (season), the catchword being, "GERONOMO!!!! and the catchphrase being, "Trust me, I'm the Doctor" Of course, I'm only guessing at this point.

  • March 20, 2010, 7:56 a.m. CST

    Steve T, if you "Blink", You'll miss it........

    by axcel1

    Sorry, had to say it.

  • You will.

  • March 20, 2010, 8 a.m. CST

    Oh, one more thing before I go.........................

    by axcel1

    I hope you all enjoy the first new episode of Doctor Who, I already know I will!!!!!!!

  • March 20, 2010, 8:17 a.m. CST

    axcel1 : Where in the trailer? I've watched it more than once

    by V'Shael

    and the only cyberman in it was a "Pete's World" version.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:30 a.m. CST

    Well, the scenes were quick and dark

    by axcel1

    I know I saw 2 flashs of what looked like cybermen. Hey, I'll watch it again.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Just for the record

    by spike fan

    The RTD era was not all bad and he had some good concepts and could certainly write a good scene when he wanted too. Its just he could not write a consistent story that made sense and he started to belive his own press and think everything he did was brilliant. Classic example the Rose charachter. When she is first introduced to the Doctor its from her perspective. She is a chav girl who is swept away by the Doctor becoming a new person and has a huge crush on him. But at the same time it was being shown that she really does not know him at all and its not going to end like she expects. This was done quite well by RTD at the end of S2. Buuuuuuuuuuutttttttttt then its Saint Rose who can do no wrong and the audience must ALWAYS LOVE and she comes back is supposedly the Doctors one true love and gets her own human doctor on top of that.############## For me the Rose charachter sums up the best and worst of RTD good concept let down by poor finishing and a huge ego.

  • March 20, 2010, 8:45 a.m. CST

    I still...

    by Steve T

    can't see it. This is some cruel trick to drive us mental isn't it axcel1?

  • March 20, 2010, 9:05 a.m. CST

    I think Axcel1 is mistaken

    by V'Shael

    In the trailer, there are only two shots of the same cyberman (it's around the 15/16 second mark) one of it's face, and one behind its head. It's walking towards Amy who's weilding a large flaming torch or something.

  • March 20, 2010, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Sorry, everyone, V'Shael is right...........................

    by axcel1

    I looked at the video again in slo-mo and saw those two shots that V'Shael mentions, it does look like modern Cybermen. Can't blame a guy for hoping the Mondas/Telos Cybermen of this universe, can you?

  • March 20, 2010, 10:31 a.m. CST

    The Girl in the Garden-place

    by mulberry

    So he meets a little girl, says he'll be back in 5 mins, then disappears for 15 years.<p>That hasn't been done before..

  • March 20, 2010, 11:33 a.m. CST

    If you're gonna steal an idea, stealing from yourself

    by V'Shael

    is not so bad.

  • March 20, 2010, 12:34 p.m. CST

    dr Who has to be a ratings success or itll be cancelled

    by Piratebill

    Ratings are still essential even when its a publicly funded channel. Its all about justification of spending the license fee and the fact that dr whos meant to be a bbc flagship programme. They wont be able to justify spending the millions if people dont watch

  • March 20, 2010, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Spitfires v Daleks. Cool.

    by palimpsest

    That is all.

  • March 20, 2010, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Well that was useless

    by Vision

    Good work!

  • March 20, 2010, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Um, press release?

    by billyhitchcock1

    duh!

  • March 21, 2010, 2:26 a.m. CST

    Ratings

    by INWOsuxRED

    Ratings are important, but Doctor Who is also something that can move merchandise and generate international income. I would have to think that Doctor Who would be one of the BBC's few international cash cows, and even the old catalog is able to continue to generate money. BBC doesn't always seem to know what to do with shows they can sell, but I would think that would be a factor that would go beyond just ratings. I wonder if they'll be able to sell the wii game internationally.

  • March 21, 2010, 5:08 a.m. CST

    we have the same problem in ireland regarding the licence.

    by emeraldboy

    fee. you pay it or go to jail. it would be worth paying it if RTe made quality programs. they make great current affairs programs and import shows like lost, the good wife but I am very finding very hard to come with a reason why we the irish pay the licence fee. it too goes into the pockets of our broadcasting talent and some of them really arent worth it, frankly.

  • March 21, 2010, 7:04 p.m. CST

    Anyone seen the BBC America Trailer....?

    by CloneRanger

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVUth0jmF-E The more I am seeing, the more I am liking!

  • March 21, 2010, 8:03 p.m. CST

    BBCA previews

    by INWOsuxRED

    I think they actually have two new ones, both of which are pretty good. I wish the show would get here already, it is a hard one to wait for, even with plenty of other shows in season or starting.

  • March 22, 2010, 3:41 a.m. CST

    The BBCA trailer has some new footage and sound bites

    by V'Shael

    Well worth a look.

  • March 22, 2010, 1:58 p.m. CST

    V'Shael

    by Meglos

    "In that story, the fact that a manniquin manufacturing plant was embedding the guns into the product was a major plot point." No. Not really.

  • March 22, 2010, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Saddened with all the RTD hate here...

    by Meglos

    And, no, I'm not a new series "cheerleader". I thought The End of Time was indulgent wankery and his preponderance for conyinually bringing back Rose was ridiculous. But no Doctor Who producer has been perfect. JNT had his pros and cons. Graham Williams had his pros and cons. Philip Hinchcliffe...okayed The Android Invasion. Barry Letts had his pros and cons, et cetera, et cetera, ad nauseum. Just remember: If it weren't for RTD, you wouldn't be watching Matt Smith next month...

  • March 26, 2010, 7:04 p.m. CST

    they showed a new-is trailer and

    by emeraldboy

    a clip of the vampires in venice episode on jonathan ross. that scene when the dr comes face to face with the female vamps is going to irritate alot of people.

  • March 26, 2010, 7:07 p.m. CST

    one other thing...

    by emeraldboy

    space is filled with cosmic radiation. that scene where he lifting her up by the foot outside the tardis seems stupid.