Sept. 23, 1999, 4:14 a.m. CST
Very nice... now at what point in the film does Chris Tucker show up and ruin the whole damn thing?
Sept. 23, 1999, 4:17 a.m. CST
Sept. 23, 1999, 5:40 a.m. CST
Ok.. I remember seeing the trailer for The Fifth Element. The one that had next to no real sound, only this music playing... with all of these epic shots of the cityscape, and Leeloo looking out and frightened to death after escaping through the tunnels.. incredible imagery, but then when you saw the movie, you realized that Luc had created a motion picture comic book. While it was great, it still disappointed the absolute FUCK out of me. I sat there in awe of that trailer thinking, "My god this will be the most beautiful film ever made." Sadly I was wrong. But these images... and this story... they just grab you. I would have to say, the most incredible shot is the one of Joan's chest, with the cross in view, and the bloody bandage. Amazing. Thanks, Luc.. you've redeemed yourself.
Sept. 23, 1999, 6:39 a.m. CST
by Uncle Cracky
Milla, Milla, Milla, Milla! Very poetic photographs. I loved 5th Element, and Chris Tucker did what he was supposed to do: disgust you. The only problem I had was with Gary Oldman: his worst performance by far. Oh well, what the hell do I care? George is dead...
Sept. 23, 1999, 6:43 a.m. CST
by Uncle Cracky
Is that short for "Spaceship Zero," the upcoming album from The Darkest of the Hillside Thickets?
Sept. 23, 1999, 7:15 a.m. CST
5th Element is the only SF film I've seen this decade that I found worthy of watching again. It is so visually rich and full of comic book inventiveness that I chose it as my first DVD purchase. I consider exactly four SF films to be worth repeated viewing: Blade Runner, THX 1138, A Clockwork Orange, and now 5th Element. I have no remote desire to watch another retelling of Joan of Arc, but with Luc Besson directing, it will be a masterpiece.
Sept. 23, 1999, 7:17 a.m. CST
THese are pretty good. I saw the prerelease poster the other day and it does look good. I think Luc Besson will satisfy us this time after the shitfest that was Fifth Element. Hopes are high
Sept. 23, 1999, 7:32 a.m. CST
Only a frenchman could do Jeanne d'Arc the justice she deserves. Kudos to Besson for having the balls to do, and to do it right. This movie is going to completely blow people away. Milla is a hell of an actress, and she is going to shine. Leelee Sobieski (the miniseries Joan) and Mira Sorvino (the other Joan movie Joan) are going to look like pale imitations in comparison. I can barely wait. I could taste the atmosphere in those pictures.
Sept. 23, 1999, 7:34 a.m. CST
by Trapper Markelz
While many will say the story for the 5th element was crap (I personally disagree) you cannot deny the fact that Luc generated some beautiful and original imagery, a VISUALLY fascinating sci-fi epic... I have no doubt he will bring the same lens upon Joan of Arc and leave us with our mouths on the floor.
Sept. 23, 1999, 8:23 a.m. CST
Yes,finally after a rather long summer some images which on their own merits stir the soul.It's in these pictures a damn fine movie should be born.I know most of the besson fans out there probaly already know this but a wonderful series of books was released through the french company intervista.The 5th element has seen an english translation but versions of la Dernier Combat(the last battle)Nikita,The Big blue and Leon(the professional) are also available in french versions.If you enjoy these images and the man's gift for framing a moment they are most definetely worth tracking down.Thanks for the beautiful pictures and consider me on the hunt for this particular book!
Sept. 23, 1999, 8:57 a.m. CST
by u.k. star
who says luc who???...i know americans have a rep for not knowing much about the rest of the worl. but luc besson is one of the most famous and successful directors on the planet..the fith element was the 3rd/or 4th biggest hit of '97 it grossed well over $200million outside the states..and i still don't know why it only made $60million + stateside, i think it came out against the lost world but that was a prettty poor film........luc besson rules and we can't wait for the messenger and hope he does that rumoured fith element sequel too!
Sept. 23, 1999, 9:04 a.m. CST
by Dingo Wrangler
As a man who just watched "The Professional" the other day, let me just say that I am anxiously anticipating this film. It goes on the short list with Green Mile, Sleepy Hollow and Man on the Moon as one of this winter's films that I will call in sick to work over. Why? Because after seeing only two of his films I recognize the man for the genius he is. Not only can he create fabulous visuals, but he can get the absolute best from all his actors. Especially Gary Oldman. Was I the only one to appreciate his droll turn as Zorg? I don't think so. Now I will let my friend FunMazer come on and tell you all why this will win Best Picture (hey, I'm sick of hearing it too). By the way, if anyone knows where I can find a copy of the original French version of The Professional, drop me a line.
Sept. 23, 1999, 9:12 a.m. CST
I hate to sound like a tired old 7up commercial, but who cares about image .... I have seen some amazing imagery from a number of directors...if you wish me to name them I will. I want a very good story ... and The 5th element had some very beatiful images but the story was not interesting to me ... I have a friend who told me that the story never was intended to be interesting it was what was going on in the story that was interesting. That was a mouth full! I loved the concept .. but that was it! The only sci-fi film truly worth watching, repeatedly is 2001! Personally,I wanted to see "Kathy Bigelow's" version ... the lady kicks ass! And she deserves a hit!
Sept. 23, 1999, 9:29 a.m. CST
When does this movie come out? I thought Besson grew up in greece. the fifth element was lots and lots of fun. Luc Besson rocks and I'm very excited about this film. Is the title growing on anyone else?
Sept. 23, 1999, 10:05 a.m. CST
Something to keep in mind. These photos were taken by a photographer on the set. They are not indicative of the shots Besson is creating. Im not saying that it's a bad or a good thing just that you should not take the picture's here as an indicator of the actual shots in the movie. I saw a few comments above referring to the picture of Milla's torso and the cross in the backround so I thought I should just point that out. On a side note I'm sure the movie will be incredible and a real breakthrough film for Besson. On a side, side, note in regards to the Star Wars prequels, I heard that Lucas is bringing in other writers to help with the script (was it here that it was reported?) so maybe he will wise up and let other fresh inventive directors try their hand at the prequels like he did with Empire and Jedi. Let's hope!
Sept. 23, 1999, 10:06 a.m. CST
by JJ McClure
Freaky-fucking-deaky! This film better be good after the torture Luc Besson put me through with The Fifth Element. If Besson did Episode II he would be teaming up with Natalie Portman again - isn't that a lovely thought?
Sept. 23, 1999, 11:08 a.m. CST
by u.k. star
to the best of my knowledge luc and milla are now divorced....and he did'nt chose her because of their relationship , he chose her because she can act when properly directed........i don't think the movie will do that well in america, i hope it does, but besson's name guarantees big box officei'll make $100mil without even being good..and if it's as good as it should be it'll be one of the ten biggest films of the year worldwide.......as far as i know the only way to get the directors cut of leon is to go to france. or germany.it's very good and deals a lot more with jean reno's relationship with natalie portman............
Sept. 23, 1999, 11:10 a.m. CST
I'm joining the criticism already generated by this book. I agree that Milla and Besson are no longer an item, but she's the leading lady of the movie and there are no close ups of her or nothing in the book or in the poster, if you've seen it. Luc, man, grow up, ending a relationship doesn't mean you have to ignore her in the promotion campaign. She's the star, don't spoil your movie by ignoring her presence.
Sept. 23, 1999, 1:20 p.m. CST
"Variety" reports "Luc Besson is negotiating with George Lucas to digitally replace Chris Tucker with Jar Jar Binks for the 20th Anniversary Edition of the will-be classic "The Fifth Element." The Frenchman is quoted as rationalizing, "I tried to alienate my audience by showcasing the planet's most annoying queen during the film's second half but some people still liked it. The 20th Anniversary Edition will be for them --the real fans. George recently told me he was inspired to develop Jar Jar after watching "Fifth Element", so if our lawyers can work it out it'll be like coming full circle, you know? Completing the circle? No, you stupid Americans know nothing of circles. Except George, of course. Is that tape recorder on?" Anyhow, great pictures from the set. If the movie looks this good I'll see it twice.
Sept. 23, 1999, 2:40 p.m. CST
by Bobby Bowfinger
These are some great looking pictures. Wish I could see the whole book. I've already got the shot of the soldiers with the red banners up as wallpaper. Would have gone for the torso photo as well if Milla's head wasn't cut off. As for the fact that these were shot by the photographer and are not scenes from the film - the cinematography will probably look quite similar and the costumes and sets won't change.
Sept. 23, 1999, 2:49 p.m. CST
The Final Excrement contained nothing but eye candy - the story itself was nothing but a big steaming pile of Kaa kaa. Luc seems to have a knack for stunning visuals, but he's nearly incompetent when it comes to delivering on serious intellectual & emotional content. Hopefully he'll have learned his lesson after the scathing criticism he received state-side for T5E, and allow a talented writer to have total creative control over the screenplay. If he'd just keep his stupid & amateurish writing to himself and stick to what he's actually good at (cinematography), then he might actually make a balanced and commendable film.
Sept. 23, 1999, 3:30 p.m. CST
You may have hated the 5th Element, but you must remember he conceived of that story when he was a kid, and was retelling it for the pure joy of it. If you think Besson can't handle intellect and emotion then you have not seen The Professional or La Femme Nikita, or even Subway. If there's one thing great about Besson that's not his visuals, it's the way he knows the emotion and feeling of his movies and nails them, especially the endings. You think he just happens upon the emotions and endings of Nikita and Leon by accident? Personally, I can't wait for Joan to join the party with Leon and Nikita...hopefully Besson will be back in top form. (I was disappointed with 5th Element too but I like it for what it is.)
Sept. 23, 1999, 4:04 p.m. CST
Joan Of Arc. Funmazer here, letting you all know (again) that Joan of Arc/Messenger will be winning that golden statue thingy this March. A bunch of them, I bet. Look at this film! It looks like Braveheart done with style. Braveheart was good, but overrated. Think of it done with lots of style, and awesome transistions/editing/pacing! And you've got Joan Of Arc. Now I suppose people might say Braveheart had this things, but, compared to the style/pacing/editing of 5th Element, it pales. The way Luc puts scenes together is just great! Like in T5E (the fifth element) when Zorg opens the crate while Leloo is telling Cornelious about the stones, how the 2 conversations intertwine. That was neatto! And I'd take Zorg over some evil king of England anyday. Villians make the movie, why do you think The Matrix (AWESOME ON DVD!) was so good? And sorry, Mr. Darabount. I will be first in line for Doc Savage, but I don't think you or Pep Strebek will have anything new for above the fireplace come this spring. GO LUC! (and yes, he should direct EPII & III, and re-make EPI)
Sept. 23, 1999, 4:10 p.m. CST
Milla Jovovich.....BOY! I'd like to...
Sept. 23, 1999, 4:27 p.m. CST
What's the problem with the 5th element? The story is not Tolstoy or Dickens but hell, it was fun. Luc Besson oozes style and funk in movie making and directs his actors with such fantastic tounge-in-cheek that it makes sci-fi appealing. The guy who said 2001 is the only sci-fi film worth watching over and over? Are you fucking kidding? The only film worth watching over and over when you're pulling a dozen pipes a day and so drug fucked that the monotony and tedium of 2001 actually starts to make some sense. Dont get me wrong, Im a huge sci-fi fan and have been branded a robo-nerd because of it and A C Clarke has written some good material but 2001 blows. As to the 5th element? As a novel, man it would suck worse than Total Recall but as a film, awesome.
Sept. 23, 1999, 6:02 p.m. CST
by Stephen Dedalus
...Theirry Arbogast. You can find his name on imdb.com. His previous work includes the photography in THE HORSEMAN ON THE ROOF. If you've seen that movie, you know that this is going to be one hell of a visually stunning film. 'Nuff said.
Sept. 23, 1999, 7:54 p.m. CST
The Fifth Element owes everything it is to old issues of Heavy Metal magazine. Bladerunner's backgrounds were very derivitive of many Drulliet(not sure of the spelling) stories, just as Fifth Element's were. Visually, Besson was borrowing almost all of his background elements from Heavy Metal back when it was good. Since I lovee those older issues, that doesn't bother me a bit. Oh, and I enjoyed Fifth Element, even if it wasn't up to his other works. La Femme Nikita was one of the best movies I have ever seen, and I go to a lot of movies.
Sept. 23, 1999, 10:01 p.m. CST
by Obee Juan
The reason that The Fifth Element resembles the style of Heavy Metal as much as it does is due to Moebius' work on the set designs. And what a fantastic job! Anyone who says the sets were just "ok" or worse... lousy... is a complete fucknut. This was one of the most visually stunning movies I've seen. Even more so than TPM, IMNSHO. While I'll admit that the movie isn't for everyone (it took me 3 showings before I got past Ruby Rod's presence!), it should still get credit where credit is due. Stunning visuals and fantastic musical scores that were well choreographed with the action made this a must-have for my laserdisc collection. Sure... the story was hokey, but it was never intended to be taken seriously. This movie was live-action Heavy Metal all the way!
Sept. 24, 1999, 2:02 a.m. CST
I've got a good news for the Besson's US fans. You can buy the book from The Messenger online on www.fnac.fr It is a famous french bookstore and it's the only website you can buy it. The french title is : "En attendant Jeanne", the publisher is Intervista, and it will cost you 185,50 FF (you must add the shipping costs). Good luck!
Sept. 24, 1999, 7:43 a.m. CST
by u.k. star
so you named your self after the annoying jet from the evill decepticons eh?.........there's a film called taxi that is due out this year, written by luc besson,(he didn't direct it), and it made over $40million dollars in france.....to put that into perspective the matrix has made $27million and is a big success...so please explain this if luc is all about visuals. e can write good stories...the big blue, nikita, leon , subway..just because he wote a summer popcorn movie doesn't mean his other work is diminished..are aliens the abyss(the full version ,not the studio interfered 2 hour version), and the terminator films suddenly poorly written just because cameron decide to do a popcorn flick with true lies.....give the guys a break they don't have to make the best films ever all the time......and even their popcorn flicks are a much higher standard than most of whats out there.....
Sept. 24, 1999, 9:09 a.m. CST
Ok lame ... you say the The 5th Element was awesome. Right? Please explain to me why? I have wathed this movie several times... it has nice visuals and ?!!! I did not feel it, at all!! Hey, I don't bash movies to just bash them. Okay okay okay ... here I go ... what was the 5th Element about ... I mean I know the concept was very interesting. And I enjoyed the opening scene with the aliens and the mentioning of the coming evil and etc. Cool start... and the evil henchmen... the shapeshifters ... really loved them. Very nice designs..I enjoyed Bruce Willis in the first third of the movie. When we meet the alien girl ... the chosen one.. the 5th element. We are given the impression ( atleast I was given this impression that she was "perfect" ... the chosen one or what have you) she learns are language ... eats are food ... and she is her because she is a important piece to the puzzle, to prevent this "evil" from wiping are ass away. She learns martial arts ... didn't care for the fight scenes ... poorly executed in my eyes, but whatever. Bruce Willis suddenly has the hots for this perfect girl ... takes her to the followers of the light... and he can't stop thinking of her. And than the fun begins ... Bruce is thrusted into action, we have Zeus the president sweating his ass off ... a bizarre blue chick show up with a relic in her gut... The artist formly known as Prince's (yes I did laugh, but man this was becoming a cartoon..and I was expecting, I won't say better, cause this was Luc's vision, I will use the word.. different!) The cool villians reveal that the 3 stooges must have mated with aliens... Gary Oldman...I guy I really enjoy a lot...turn in a Tommy Lee Jones performance... think of Tommy Lee' acting job in the Bat flick. I was expecting something along the lines of Ronny Cox's performance in "Total Recall"... that guy didn't give a shit about anyone! And man the scene when the perfect girl starts to realize that we are a bunch of savages and thinks that we may not be worth saving, because we have been doing some foul shit to each other , namely: murder, rape, and etc. And she's horrifed by all of this violence... I don't buy it. They ... the aliens have been travling the universe and now she's torn by this... no one else is out there in space fuckin' each other over, just us! Always, the poor simple humans ... and she acts like this is her first contact with violence, remember the villians who blew her ass to bits in the beginning... remember the evil flame ball... the one that makes Gary's ooze black tar... remember Bruce Lee... the martial arts that you used against the villians, no, they were lings at best when I think about it. Anyway, the evil flame ball is streaking to earth and they, the priest, perfect girl, Willis, and Prince have to combine the four elements into one.. that's cool. I really mean it. Really. Oh no, wait perfect girl.. has a change of heart and come Bruce tell her you love her and save the day before we get are asses burned! I must say that as a concept the 5th element is sound...I didn't really care for the cast to much, or rather their performances didn't do anything for "me" ... it was shot well, it was well designed, but it just didn't do a thing for me except make me laugh ... and a friend of mines told that's what it was suppose to do, based on that the film worked, but I wanted sometrhing "different" 2001 is a interesting film ... I read the book, but I was not refering to the book .. but the film. The opening shot ... to the ending shot. Life and rebirth ... man evoling from the ape to the starchild and the master of his own fate ...the compassion of Hal to lack of compassion of the humans , a interesting film, but it's not for everyone. It can be a bit to deep.. with subtext and all ... like I said it's not for everyone. I will go see the Joan of Ark film... why? Well, that's another story....
Sept. 24, 1999, 9:14 a.m. CST
Sept. 24, 1999, 10:01 a.m. CST
by Dash Riprock
I hope that this film is somehting special. There is no doubt that Besson is a visual genius, as evidenced by 5th Element. But Thus far, I have found it difficult to connect with his films. While I loved Jean Reno in the profesional, and Milla in 5E, both movies fell short for me. The Professional had a distance to it that was quite possibly intention. Admitedly though, my major dissapointment was with 5th Element. I 'm sure that wws partly due to the void that existed between the manner in which the film was marketed and the tone which it eventually displayed. I know some of you rabid tallbacker out there just love this film. And, I'll agree with you that Besson translated perfectly the titilating fantasy ficiton that can be found in magazines such as Heavy Metal. But, frankly, those frequently dissapoint me too. They are both lacking something - an emotional center, a place to hang your hat. I don't accept the cop-out that I "didn't get it". If I didn't connect with it, I didn't connect with it. The film failed on that level with MANY MANY people. That is just the bottom line. Hopefully The Messanger will pack an emotional punch. Otherwise all those pretty pictues will more or less wasted.
Sept. 24, 1999, 12:45 p.m. CST
Thanks ... for some more insight. I agree with every point. Let's hope that Joan of Arch is better.
Sept. 24, 1999, 6:28 p.m. CST
Sept. 24, 1999, 7:11 p.m. CST
Usually movies shot in english in a french historical context really seem out of place. The actors are a lot less believable as they chew out french names the best they can with often very limited success... And I must admit that for me it's equally painful to endure such a torture, or to see a translated movie in which you lose about half of the actors performance. Also, what irony it is to tell in english the historical tail of Jeanne D'Arc who freed France from the english... I don't know how the french will perceive the portrayal of a french hero/saint/english-slaying-legend made by the King of french directors in english...
Sept. 25, 1999, 1:33 p.m. CST
by u.k. star
hey guy, you've totallly misread my post. you cannot use b.o to judge art.ie goodfellas and the usual suspects are not bad films because they had,relatively ,poor u.s box office....but you can use it to judge an ability to write what people like and to connect with people on some level....... only the most rabid star wars fan actually believes it is the best film ever made but it is usually top of peoples list. because it works.you cannot say besson is a bad writer when he makes so many people all over the world understand and like his films... he may not be shakespear but he knows how to write for the screen. inepnedence day and armegeddon are crap films....they are also two of the most fun movies of recent years and two of the 20 most succesful at the b.o and on video... what i'm saying to you is besson cannot be a bad writter and so consistantly successful and appealing..... by the way i'm a film student and i've had to watch birth of a nation a few times.as a black guy i find it one of the most offensive films of all time..but it is also a cinematic masterpiece. even today but especially in context.....film comes in all forms some pure art some pure comercialism. some a mix...you cannot judge armeggeddon for what it is . they were'nt trying to make an oscar winner they were trying to please crowds and it was one of the best crowd pleaser s of all time.bad art geat movie..same with the fith element great fun beautifully shot, with a relative ly weak story...but it wasn't meant to be subway nikita or the big blue.....
Sept. 26, 1999, 2:35 p.m. CST
by u.k. star
how can the third most successful film of 1997,(behind men in black and the lost world)< be a box office failure??? it was the 8th biggest if you include us gross. and was a huge hit in france... the french critics do not like besson and their dilike is increased by his popularity.... and the films of michael bay are not badly written.. FOR WHAT THEY ARE they are some of the best examples of that type of cinema which is why they are the most successful of that genre..... don't be a snob man it isn't all about shakespeare .
April 6, 2000, 8:31 a.m. CST
April 6, 2000, 8:33 a.m. CST
FOR every besson film, wehave in france a big book wich comes out at the same time ... it's like 700 page and over 1000 photos...