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STAR WARS EPISODE TWO: Yoda Kicks Ass'
Hmmmmm.... Yoda kicking ass is just one of those visual concepts that I've always had immense trouble envisioning. I imagine alot of folks cut off at the knee. Or Yoda just sitting on a hill side using the force to break a thousand people's necks. But I never saw him in hand to hand combat. Just seems it'd be a waste of his time.
Today (22-09-99) G Lucas publicaly said in a press/fan conférence in Paris that
few days ago he asked Frank Oz about how Yoda could move more and even
fight! Lucas" we will see why he's called a jedï master!"
(episode 2? 3? he don't Know or don't want to say...)
French Padawan Plo Koon
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Hey, it seemed to work for Mini-me....
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Now then...Just speaking for myself, that is one thing I've always wanted to see. Wonder if they will do it CGI vice the normal Yoda methods... -
Ever since I saw Empire I wanted to see Yoda get up and kisk ass. A Jedi Master? What the hell made him a Jedi Master? I want to see. . . it'd be really funny and that's what episode I was lacking. NO humour. What was the smirk for when OB1 said "you're right, master, the negotiations were short. . ."???? No damn humour. And Yoda kicking ass would be the best comedic scene in movie history. OK, that's probably stretching it a little far, but it would be worth the admission price. Was there anything in Episode 1 that was worth the admission price? Bar Natalie Portman??
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Sep 22, 1999 2:44:40 PM CDT
"I'm not afraid." "You will pee.......you will pee....."
by pisso the clown
Yoda's Force may be strong, but it is no stronger than the Force of my Golden Shower!
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Sep 22, 1999 2:51:35 PM CDT
Miss Piggy never had any problems expressing herself through vio
by lester
I think Oz could ad a similar "hiiyaaa!" and we'd really be on to something...
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"Meet the Feebles."
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this is strange a few people were dissapointed, but they were expecting the second coming and free bars of gold after the film., and most people over here really liked it.........maybe your all just too old now.remember all the star wars films are written for kids aged about 8-14 but written well enough to be appreciated by older audiences.........i think to many people have grown old and wanted the films to grow with them.it's like they wanted lucas to give the story to tarrantino and have him write the screenplay , and thenn get jim cameron to direct a nice r rated movie..sorry blame lucas for making us wait 16 years but you can't blame him for not changing the story..i was 5 when ep 4 came out and i loved it.even if he'd finished all 9 (it was a 9 part story back in the 80's) at the rate of one every 3 years, it would have been 2001 by the end and i'd have been a 29 year old man going to see a 10 year olds film........i don't go to see live action disney stuff unless i'm babysitting.......so give the films a rest if you don't like them i'm afraid you've grown up peter pan...leave them to the kids and those of us still able to appreciate them.......and remember most people hated empire when it came out, but everyone(almost) knows it's the best one now......and lucas did say a couple of months ago that the rest of the story was all about YODA ben anakin and the queen.........jedis are not ninjas..there's a whole lot more to being a jedi than "kicking ass" he is intelligent and has the most control over the force..."judge me by my size do you.and well you should not"
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up a post.:)
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yoda kicks ass! judge me by my size do you? hehe.
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Does anyone else see Yoda kicking ass from atop Mace Windu's shoulders?? It would be just like fucking Mad MAx Beyond the Thunderdome (Master Blaster anyone??). My real guess though is that, like Harry said, will use mental techniques. I can see him standing back and manipulating a light sabre with his toughts. Maybe he'll float, or even better, he'll be like the killer bunny in Monty Python's Holy Crusade, leaping extremely fast at Sith throats. Then of course, Yoda's head looks like the base of a nut sack, so how much harm could he do??
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Would be new to me. BUT I think it could be cool seeing a grining Yoda smashing some enemies against the next wall just with a wink of his hand...
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Being a big SW fan, and being from the UK to boot, even though I'm down-under, I'm not sure I agree with you. Yeah, OK, I was about 6 in '77, and I have nothing but fond memories of going to the cinema. I went back for Empire and Jedi, saw the three remastered versions back-to-back and went to watch Episode 1 in London's finest cinema. My point is that some people like myself are big fans of the concept of SW. OK, so the Episode 1 was really flawed, but I find that the best approach is to walk into the picture pretending you're a 14 year old boy. Movies are all about escapism, and if this is my chance to turn back the clock by over a decade, then I'll bloody do it! Watching it from this perspective made me enjoy it a lot more - after all, it was really a kid's film. Having said that, I do hope the scripts for 2 and 3 have more thought and less technical wizardry in them - anyone can play on computer's, right?
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You think Lucas could sign him on? Coleman's stock must have shot through the roof after his appearance in Kid Rock's "Cowboy" video.
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First off, i think that this rumor of Yoda fighting is just that, a rumor. He is a Jedi master and therefore is enlightened. The Jedi are pacifists and believe war and violense is wrong, and should only be rarely used in defense. See this Yoda quote from Empire Strikes Back: "...great warrior....hmph....wars not make one great..." This shows that the fact that he is a Jedi Master means he is above the others, the ones who would be more quick to fight. I seriously doubt we'll ever see Yoda fight.
One fight that I would want to see is Palpatine/Sidious vs. Mace Windu. Think about it, Lucas can save the Force Lightning as a treat to the kids who watch all six in succession (my favorite part of ROTJ). But where did Darth Maul learn to fight like that? How long was Sidious his master? Can Sidious fight with a saber? I would love to see that (ending with Mace's death - wait, perhaps Palpatine will do this to show Anakin that the Light side is weak and dying, not worthy of life, and that the Dark Side is the side to choose - just an idea people).
I also have one final comment on TPM, although it was not my favorite of the 4, it was good. Why is it that people rip on Lucas for being a bad director when he was nominated for Best Director with the first one (ANH). Did he get worse with age? I'm a film/video student and, while he's not the best, he is a good director, fundamentally speaking. Also, TPM was never meant to stand alone by itself. Lucas is the first person (at least that I know) who made a movie (a prequel to a trilogy no less!) while knowing that he would definately 100% make two sequels. He spread one story into 3 movies. Everyone says/claims that ESB is the best (it is), but it can't stand alone - it has a confusing beginning and no ending! Imagine someone who only sees ESB, they wont know what's going on. I loved ROTJ, i just ignore the Ewoks, just like in TPM i ignored the Gungans.
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I would just like to say that it is about goddamned time. Yoda has always had the propensity to kick some major asses, but I like to think that Lucas's lack of balls was all that stood between Yoder and a big ol' throbbin' lightsaber.
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Sep 22, 1999 4:47:05 PM CDT
You laugh, but you think too narrowly. "Always with you it cann
by the grin
Sure, Yoda would look ridiculous stumbling around with a lightsabre. But if that guy can lift an X-wing from a swamp, he can throw some seriously heavy shit down on the heads of the stormtroopers, battledroids, Sith Lords, or what-have-you. Imagine the guy, hardly noticed on the edge of the battlefield, conducting a hailstorm of starship wreckage (as Darth Vader did on Luke in ESB). And if the Emperor can conduct blue lightning, what might blast through Yoda? Sorta like opening the Ark of the Covenant, if you ask me....
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I'm imagining each jedi knight having a designated yoda strapped to his or her back before running into battle. Kinda like all the rebel fighters having R2 units attached to them. This would then, of course, explain Luke's jedi training, running around Dagoba with Yoda in his ruck sack. Y'know, to get used to the feeling of having a little guy on his back.
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...with his lightsaber drawn!
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I would love to see the little guy in action(that could be taken the wrong way) but I think that he would have to use his Jedi mind powers because if Yoda's action scenes were not handled properly it could be hilarious, not thrilling. I'd hate to see Yoda inadvertantly becoming comic relief.
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Yoda in a fight. Yeah, sure I'd like to see that. Sure the idea
is a two-way street. On one hand,
it could be cool and on the other hand it could be laughable. The trick is to me it look exciting
and reminiscent of the lightsaber
duels and not reminiscent of
Mini-Me attacking Austin Powers
(which I thought was funny). If done, right I think it would be really great..finally to see
Yoda use a lightsaber. Yoda,
the most powerful of all the Jedi Knights as we've seen was one of the wisest and smartest but how is he in combat, when push comes to shove ? Will he use the force or
will he use his lightsaber ?
Since he is small, how will he
manage to fight an opponent presumably larger than him.
And who will Yoda be up against ?
A Maldorian warrior ? A Dark Sith apprentice ?
Or maybe, just maybe, we'll see the normally peaceful Yoda in combat, because of a duel with
the greatest evil ever faced by the Jedi, a Sith master who is
just as powerful as he is and whose power of the Dark Side is only matched by Yoda's power of the Good side of the Force.
I'm refering to of course,
Darth Sidious (Emperor Palpatine).
To see these two great and yet
different masters of the Force
in a duel would be fantastic
and a truly awe-inspiring sight to see. Plus, it would give us a chance to see Palpatine use
a light saber. After seeing how well he trained Darth Maul
in his lightsaber duels, it's clear Palpatine knows a thing or two about wielding a saber.
And why not ? After all, there is evidence Yoda knows about
the Emperor and is aware of his abilities. Remember at his death scene in Jedi where he warns Luke not to underestimate the powers
of the Emperor ? Is it possible
that Yoda is speaking from
his own experience with
The Emperor ? That at one time,
they faced one another in
a battle ? Intriguing.
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Well, I for one would LOVE to see Yoda in a fight. Nothing cooler than that. If they do it with him actually having hand to hand fighting - cool, as long as they do it right. And if they have it with him fighting using his mental powers, thats great to. But, could it just be possible that maybe another angle is that he could assume a full-grown "human" like shape to do hand-to-hand combat with a Sith?? I'm just asking and throwing this out there - I have NO clue, but that might be one way Lucas handles this. Sure, might seem a little "easy" plot-wise, but I think we would have a pretty awesome lightsaber fight that would probably be along the lines of a major suped up fight like the one at the end of Episode 1 with Obi-wan and Darth Maul. Question would be if the full-size Yoda would look like Yoda or who. This is just something I thought of, so don't flame me if it sounds too stupid! :)
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There is no way Yoda will be shown in physical conflict with anyone, let alone using a lightsaber. Can you imagine how silly that would look. I can see Yoda giving them a light show, though. "Burn them I must".
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I'd only be repeating what Omega Red said. Go read that post.
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There are plenty of ways for Yoda to kick ass , and they have the digital technology to do just about anything. Hopefully the computer generated effects will have improved a bit in that time, i still didn't believe the "live" creatures nearly as much as metallic based objects.I am extremely excited to see the series get into the dark side of the story with the betrayal of family , and friendships ....and climax with the creation of DARTH VADER!!!! No matter how yoda fights i think the Dark Lord kicks his ass to Degobah by the end of the Prequel Trilogy
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Remember the caucasian yoda-looking creature next to Yoda at the end of "Phantom"? Whatw as that all about? Is that what a younf Yoda looked like befoe he got old or was it some sort of mating between a human and Yoda-type creature? Pretty creepy, even for little kids, if you ask me!
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About 6 months preparation would be neccesary to prepare Frank to achieve the neccesary agility to do justice to the diminutive jedi's abilities.On a more pedantic note check out page 9 of the episode 1 visual dictionary and you will indeed find a pic of Yoda's teeny sabre.Personally I'm with the "sith lord/mandalorian/clone attacks yoda and gets building dropped on him"crowd for this one.
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for your information, that pink thing is not of Yoda's race. Check out the Behind the Magic CD if you don't believe me. Or better yet, ask some hardcore SW fan.
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First off- I thought EPISODE I was good. It had an elegance that other modern action blockbusters have lacked, and an absorbing atmosphere. Jar Jar- in some scenes he was really grating, most of the time I could just take him or leave him. Besides, Ian McDiarmid more than made up for it as the wonderfully smug Palpatine.
My theory on Yoda fighting is this: he just sits there in his chair in the Jedi Council Chamber and telekinetically tosses Sith Lords around like throw pillows. Obi-Wan could "push" Battle Droids back, so a full blown master should be able to work wonders. -
This is what happens when George Lucas Brings His kids to work for the day! George, Be a Father at Home and a film maker at work. P L E A S E ! ! ! ! !
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hello! it could be a flashback scene (a la godfather II) that shows Yoda in his youth (say, 200 years old) before he shrank like all old people do. he could be ten feet tall 600 years earlier. use your imagination people!
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I mean, sure he's strong in the force and everything, but let's face it: He's a stump. My proposed solution: Ever see one of those Japanese monster movies where one of the monsters (or optionally, a robot) suddenly grows to about 20 times its own size? I'm talkin Yodzilla here. That would rule and you all know it. "Yodzilla, King of the Jedi."
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Yoda should just hit people in the knee with his cane.
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I think the cane beating is closest to accurate. Yoda will (obviously) kick ass Cartman style. Respect my authori-tah, you must.
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Is it just me, or do the Orc Peons from the PC game Warcraft II sound a lot like Yoda? Dabu!
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It is possible...and I still think Yoda had carnal knowledge with Princess Leia or some human babe despite what 7 says. I mean, look at the two of them together! Different race my tushy! That pink-like creature is Yoda's bastard love child! I want medichlorian DNA tests done now!
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Let's remember that Jedi could see
things "before they happen" as well as move objects with their mind. On top of this, Lucas never said that Jedi ONLY use sabers as weapons. With this in mind, Yoda's size makes him a small target and enables him to levitate himself, and his precognitive abilities make him virtually impossible to hit (because he knows where every attack is coming from). On top of that, he probably uses more than just a light saber, so the fight scene will be pretty unpredictable. I'd expect him to spend most of his time outsmarting opponents and hitting them with psychokenetic attacks, but doubt that he'd spend much time using an actual light saber... -
that Yoda uses many of Dr. Bunsen Honeydew's grow pills from The Muppet Movie. The effects are sadly temporary.
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Look, I admit that if this is not done in just the right way, it could look incredibly stupid.
However, just imagine. There in some fantastic setting stand Obi-Wan and Anakin. Sweat pours from their bodies after a long duel with not one but two Sith lords. Yoda stands in front. He has thrown objects, hurled force walls and used just about any other means except physical to beat their opponents. It hasn't worked.
Now and only now that other means of ending the battle have been exhausted, Yoda, with a sad look in his eye removes his cloak to reveal a ripped (albeit stringy) frame. Then, with a snap his tinny light saber ignights and he swings into battle.
That my brothers (and sisters) is cool.
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alright, i am not a SW fan, but i have seen them all and enjoyed tpm. it was a good movie and very respectful to the first trilogy. if this yoda fighting scene does turn out i hope that u all do not critisize it and put it down. right now u are all thinking it is a great idea and all seem very enthusiastic so when/if it does come out, just enjoy it. it may not be tailor made for you but it is not supposed to be anyway. baff
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i see it turning out like the end bit of the lion king where rafiki is kicking the hyenas asses! OVER AND OUT!!!baff
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Ron Jeremy needs to play a Sith Lord in Episode 2. We already saw a Sith Lord that fought with a lightsaber with 2 blades...Ron Jeremy could be a Sith Lord that uses a lightsaber and the power of his 10-INCH MANSABER. Judge Ron Jeremy by his size, do you?
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We have to assume that Yoda is at least as developed as the Emperor is in ROTJ.
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As long as it has some of that great fart humor I'll be right back in line... Yeah right!!!
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I guess I always thought of Yoda as a behind the scenes type of guy, but I DO think it would be really cool to see him whip some clone ass. I mean he doesn't necessarially HAVE to use a lightsaber. I mean we've never seen the little bugger carry one. But it could be real cool if they did it right, kept it serious...illiciting cheer and awe as opposed to laughs. I guess I picture him surrounded...forced to fight...he leans his head back...closes his eyes...bzzzzz a lightsaber flares from his belt....it flies aound him....above, in front, behind...taking out everything...while he remains the calm eye in the storm. WICKED. Well, that is just my two cents. Now, maybe next time I'll tell you about how cool a one-armed Jedi could be...
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...that scene in Muppet Treasure Island where Kermit gets into a sword fight?
Now, why did I think of that all of a sudden?
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Check the Episode I Visual Dictionary. I don't remember the exact description of it or his use of it. I think that it says something about its being mostly ceremonial and specially made to be compatible with his stature. However, it does that it is functional. Whether he wields a lightsaber or not, I want to see Yoda in battle!
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Let Yoda kick ass. But maybe in the scuffle, alien Stepin Fetchit known as Jar Jar accidently gets in Yoda's way, and gets his ruin-the-movie-with-distracting-baby-talk ASS obliterated Dead Alive Lawnmower-scene style.
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In the Star Wars history, Yoda did fight and killed a Drak Jedi on his little swamp land. That is what caused the Dark Force tree that Luke went into and failed his test. So yoda did fight, at least once. Sorry to all thos who think he didn't. It's in the history.
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The first muppet to kick a CGI creation's butt. Yeah!!!
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1. remember the scene in Enter the Dragon where Bruce Lee fights Wilt Chamberlain?
That is, Yoda uses the opponent's size to 'trip him up', bring him down to the ground, and then use lightsaber to finish him off.
2. similarly, using judo technique of applying the opponent's momentum against him, plus the application of force against pressure points and joints. Similar to what's-his-name, Mr. Myoshi (?) in Karate Kid, or a real, old kung-fu master - allow the opponent to move towards Yoda. With blinding speed and seemingly very little movement from Yoda, the enemy is thrown to the ground.
The biggest problem is a technical one: how to make Yoda's movements extremely smooth, fast and life-like; otherwise it will (as others have said) look like a comical fighting muppet.
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What an intesting idea. Much better than Yoda, the knee-biter or Yoda, the genital-mutilator...
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Yoda should not pick up a lightsaber and fight -- that's totally against his character from what we've seen so far. Every scene he's been in so far shows that Yoda is a Zen-like pacifist. When Ben started teaching Luke, the first thing he taught him was how to use a lightsaber -- Ben and others like Qui-Gon are obviously "warrior" Jedi Knights. But notice when Luke went to Yoda, one of the first thing's Yoda taught him was that "You must UNLEARN what you have learned." Never do we see Yoda teaching Luke to pick up a saber and FIGHT. And during the infamous Dark Side cave scene on Dagobah, Yoda tells Luke to leave his weapons behind -- he won't need them. I think it would be a big mistake to turn Yoda into a "swashbuckler." -- Kik
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They would need to be real careful, because it'd be easy to turn this (accidentally) into silliness. I think he should fight, but without a lightsaber. I mean, what would his loghtsaber be but a glow-in-the-dark q-tip. And I gotta say, that Pisso the Clown cracks me up every fuckin' time. I mean it.
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Did I really just write "loghtsaber"? that's some fuckup. I meant lightsaber, duh. Ah, never my eyes on *where i am, what i am doing*.
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I've always had this wonderful image of Yoda in a one-on-one battle: Yoda stands there, idly tapping a finger on his staff, as his enemy is desperately trying to fend off huge trees that are being uprooted and hurling themselves in his direction....
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Yoda sounds like he will do a good job but i just don't want LEO TO BE ANIKIN. THERE IS NO WAY ANAKIN HAS TO BE STRONG LEO IS SKINNY AND WEAK. WE NEED TO START A PATION TO STOP LEO FROM BECOMING ANIKIN. PLEASE WE MUST STOP HIM BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE
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When I've thought of Yoda fighting, I've always only seen 2 possibilitys....
1. Thousands and thousands of people fighting.... yoda is standing outside the main battle,overlooking it from a small hill. He looks disapointed, and sighs.... then he closes his eyes, and above him the sky darkens with clouds and lightning. The wind starts blowing feircelly, and lightning starts coming down, striking tanks and such. Then (maybe) a tornado touches down.... buh bye badguys... (and lets face it, wouldn't it be cool to see a tornado sucking up a sith lord....?)
Or less cool, the same as above, minus the lightning and tornado, but plus fireballs ala Firestarter.
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o.k i read your post but it seemed you agreed with me about the whole watching as a kid thing..i was just saying that those who can't do what we did should give up wastch movies aimed at older audiences and stop complaining.......oh and the odeon leicester square is SO NOT englnads finest cinema.nothing but nothing beats the EMPIRE ...it's because it was at the odeon i didn't bother going up city to watch it.:)......i went to see it again with my niece who's 6 and she loved it so much she asked to go again the next day..which was funny because the first time she didn't get that darth maul was dead:).....she thought he just fell.but the second time she realised he was chopped in 2 .which upset her because she loved him......i really don't have a problem with the tech stuff,who complained about the matrix?....., it's the same thing adults were moaning about when the original trilogy came out robots , pupetts, stormtroppers, not enough people to empathise with..they all hated yoda....now they all pick on cgi...i don't have a problem with it if it's done properly, and the cgi characters were all well"played" by their voice talent, and given enough facial expression by ilm to work..the story needed telling with cgi....hnow it's done there will be less in eps 2 + 3 and more people in suits to keep the adults happy, but please lets not do what the adults did to us in the 70's and 80's if the effects drive the story why complain..only worry when the story is the effects.....remember Godzilla..to listen to some people ep one is in the same class as that pile of crap.it's not.the best movie ever made it may not be, the worst star wars film it isn't.(give it a couple of years you'll appreciate it more,. it's only a movie but it's a damn fine one. and remember lucas knows that ep 2 will make less money than ep 1 and probably eps 4 and 6, and he knows that ep3 will be the least successful of all the movies . so you're all either gonna be very happy, or even madder by 2005.
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er guys even in ep 1 yoda can only walk with the aid of a cane. force or no force i don't think lucas is gonna have him leaping around anywhere......he must have used a lightsabre in the past though as it's an integral part of jedi training......and his powers must be awesome because he is over 800 years old, and whilst we can have no idea of when his race reach maturity we can assume he was trained at least 700 years ago(they seem to have a real problem with training those too old........oh and don't be too eager to see him fight sidious. we know sidious lives and is victorious. but that by the end of ep 3 ALL the jedi except yoda and ben are dead....
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i would like to apologise for the unbelievably bad spelling in my above post...cheers..:)
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I won't read the rest of this talkback because it has probably already degenrated into a bunch of idiots saying Star Wars sucks or Star Wars is ubercool and that anyone who doesn't agree with them is a fucking homo but I can't get the visual of Astyanax's take on Yoda fighting out of my head, I giggle at the mere thought of Yoda taunting a Sith Lord. Thanks!
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One of Lucas's themes about "greatness" is very simply stated by Yoda: "Wars do not make one great". Think along the lines of the Dalai Lama. I think that what will happen is people go to try to take out Yoda, and he will set up various traps as necessary for them. Ending with a single confrontational battle one on one with a dark Jedi knight (on Dagobah) in which Yoda will hold off attacks, do some amazing flips through the air in a retreat style, and just when he's retreating, cause nature to take out the opposing jedi.. harness the power of the entire planet he is on. -
Yeah this is going to be good, I can picture Yoda doing back flips and martial arts with voice of his. Doubt that will happen, but I could never picture him fighting. He's always been the words of wisdom type of guy who doesn't use weapons or fight.
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I realize video games don't get much play in this forum but I thought I'd mention the sequence in the Jedi Knight 1st-person game where Kyle Katarn faces off against two lightsabre-wielding "Dark Jedi" both of which seem to be of a similar race to Yoda's. Their names are Gorc and Pic, if memory serves correctly; they're brothers; Gorc is huge and rather slow with an oversized lightsabre; Pic is small and agile with a smaller sabre. Pic definitely resembles a younger Yoda. The little shit jumps around like a maniac and has a bunch of different force powers. Perhaps this is what Lucas has in mind -- anyone else familiar with this game?
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We don't know that. We just know that all the IMPORTANT Jedi are dead. All the ones who CARE are dead.
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It is laughable to imagine Yoda getting into a combat scenario, but what if Yoda could use the powers of the force to grow in size? Sort of like Freeza in Dragon Ball Z, but somewhat more reasonable. Either that or Lucas needs to have the Yoda puppet redesigned so it doesn't look like a potato sack with a green head, but something that looks a tad more organic.
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First of all, that source website is a total fanboy haven and unreliable. Also, it says NOWHERE that Yoda will be involved in a lightsaber battle. It would look clownish at best, and be a huge mistake. In ESB, he lifted an X-Wing with his mind! Why the hell does he need to use a laser sword?
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er sorry dude."....he helped the emperor hunt down and destroy the jedi."........."when i am gone the last of the jedi will you be.."......and finally the title "return of the jedi"..sorry but apart from yoda and ben those who survive ep2 get wasted in ep3....as far as we know..i can't see the point of having a few cowardly jedi escape to live on the streets somewhere..........oh and to clear something up i don't think any of those leonardo dicaprio rumours are true....if you look at how much trouble lucas went to to make sure obi wan in ep1 was similar to alec guiness he aint gonna chose some scrawny little guy to play anakin...the only "famous" person i can see right now is someone like ben affleck.it'll be someone that size wait and see...but i don't think he'll go for a name.....
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was anyone else disturb by the apparantly small number of female jedi on the council??????
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Sep 23, 1999 3:00:13 PM CDT
MATTROX- THAT WAS "GAME OF DEATH" WHERE LEE FOUGHT CHAMBERLAIN!
by uncapie
Yoda should take up "Drunken Boxing". He gets plastered on some Romulan Ale and stars beating the crap out of everyone while laughing like a jackass! I'd pay TEN bucks to see this!
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Here is my second post, and this has nothing to do with the subject, it is just my opinion.......Remember in Empire how the revelation of Vader as Luke's father was a suprise? Knowing that Anakin turns to Vader would ruin that suprise to people in the future who watch all six in succession. I'm sure Lucas will figure something out, but if he could have some way to make sure that the audience believes that Anakin has died, the suprise would stay. Think about it. Anakin impregnates Amidala (still dont know how he'll pull that off in a PG movie without going the "magical appearing baby" way of disney animations), but then turns to the dark side. We should never see the twins birth, nor should we know there are twins, so the suprise of leia being the sister is intact. Anakin turns to the darkside, and he is apparently killed by Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan believes him dead. But when he learns the truth he cant bear to tell Luke or something like that. I just realized I kinda lost my train of thought. Oh well, sorry. BTW Ian McDiarmid is the greatest.
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Sep 23, 1999 3:13:46 PM CDT
you both are so close....it was Game of Death and Lee fought Kar
by cerebral paul z.
just getting my $.02 in....thank you
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Yoda: "Always a Jedi uses the Force for defense, never for attack" -- ESB
I think this pretty much settles the matter. All this talk of kicking butt and dismembering Sith masters, or even of lightning-zapping the evil emperor is, at best hogwash, and at worst a total abandonment of the Jedi ideals and examples as given in EP 4-6. Give it a rest.
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Well i think that what all this stuff about yoda fighting is a load of bull. If Lucas did say what he said i think he did not mean it in the context of yoda doing a BRUCE LEE and kicking numerous arses with a pair of light nunchakas, now thats a thought...hmmmm!!! Yes George, i have thought of a new weapon for your new darth enemy, 4get the double sided lighsaber, this will kick arse...yes this will...hmmmm!!!
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Why does this story sound familiar?
People are complaining a muppet doing fighting, what it will look like, etc?
If there is a way (visually) to get Yoda to fight, them ILM will figure out how to it and make it look good!
My God, I can't believe you people. Why are you all so concerned about how things will look?
You had this concern before TPM came out about how things would look (cg creatures and what not), and ILM PROVED that your concerns were unfounded.
When are you people going stop worrying about the effects and concentrate on the story?
You should be worrying about what drives Yoda to fight, not what it will look like?!!!
You guys are such idiots!! You say that movies should rely more on story than on effects, but you all are only worrying about how things will look!!!!
You guys should stop talking about effects, because ILM will do their job right EVERY time.
You should be debating about the story. Why will Yoda be fighting? Whose he fighting against? Are there no other jedi to help him? And other such questions.
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Get the guy who played "Mini-Me" to do it! Train him with double-nun-chuck lightsabers. Have him fly through the air bonking people on the head with them making cat-like noises when he does. Then when he's captured, "Take him to Detroit!". Damn, this sounds great! Oh, you were right about Jabbar in "Game of Death". I only saw that movie once when it first opened...hated it! "Enter the Dragon" is still the greatest martial arts flick!
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Despite whatever you may think about Jar-Jar or the Gungans, Lucas was successful. Successful, you ask? Yes, very. Whether or not you hated him, or loved him, you are all treating him like an actual, living breathing, existing character. The language you all use pertains to a character, not a CG construct. So, regardless of your angst, George Lucas has you all had.
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Are you kidding me? Yoda kicking ass would be hilarious. This little dude annihilating jedi left and right. It'd be like the vicious attack of the bunny rabbit in Monty Python & the Holy Grail, only in this there'd be lightsabers. Don't tell me that doesn't make you laugh.
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The simplest way to show Yoda kicking ass is something my friends came up after TPM. We know Palpantine is probably going to try to dissolve the Jedi Council. Probably by force. So I see the newly created Storm Troopers busting in. Yoda has nothing to do but fight. So he uses the force to hover, then a lightsaber flys's all around him kicking ass like there's no tomorrow.
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Emperor Palpatine was revered as the most feared man in the entire galaxy, right? Having less patience than Old Vader Boy himself. And what did he do? He zaps guys like Luke with his fingers. No lightsaber duels at all. Now, unless Lucas has made a press conference saying he'll be adding a comdey element to SW2, Yoda will NOT duel with the fates.
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It's funny that some of you say we have to go into Ep 1 with the mentality of a kid just to enjoy it. I went to go see Iron Giant with my own aged mentality (30)and came out feeling like a seven year old. EXACTLY as i felt back in the 80's with star wars. I saw Fly Away Home on video last year and that also made me feel like a kid. So I don't think I have to brainwash myself to a lesser state of mind to force myself to enjoy Ep 1. It left me feeling numb and was completely joyless on every level.
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Your forgetting that Yoda is not human. His race is a mystery and I predict that when he does do battle, he will morph to a 7 foot muscalor yoda and kick ass to all who opposes him.
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It could be like on how THOK grows on the playstation game Star Wars Masters of Tears Kasi! And the only reason he is small is to show young jedis that size doesnt matter. (Remeber kids, its not the size of your howitzer, it's how you use it!)
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I think perhaps the funniest thing about the Yoda fighting thing is the subject lines you all came up with. I mean, "Who run Barter Town?; YODA!!!!" Now THAT's comedy. Thanks for the laughs.
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Right lets get to the point now!!! George Lucas wants episode 2 to become a love story, right? So therefore this film is geared towards the younger female and soppy folk, i.e the finatic fans of the Titanic disaster film of the decade. there is no way that Yoda will do any fighting in the second or third film, what we will see is the influence Yoda has to Anakin i.e. an agony aunt. Yes this is what i believe Lucas has in mind, just because one is a Jedi master just not mean that he is the best fighter in the universe, anyway who cares, we got 3 years to wait and were getting excited already.
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Make me angry, you should not. Like me then, you won't.
YODA MAD!!!
YODA SMAAAAASH!!!
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"Wouldn't want to be like youuuuuu...ohhhhhh, oh, oh, oh! Smack you with my light...saber!"
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In the last few months the mere mention of star wars was enough to make so called critics foam at the mouth in an attempt to have their say on a film that was basically flawed(whoever came up with the notion of a perfect movie should be given a big push back into reality)but totaly enjoyable experience even if all the merchandising did leave a bad taste inthe mouth.Fast foward to the release of THE HAUNTING,well where the hell are those rabid film journalists now when their histronics might be valid. This movie is possibly the finest example of how not to use special effcts , obvious plotting and laughable dialogue not to mention being a masterclass in giving giggles instead of chills. the worst part:impressive set design and sound effects completly wasted on a film that isnt in any way entertaining.Now i say to all you film critics stop your wishingthat episode 1 had bombed and try and stop incompetance frommaking money andwhile your at it give THE WILD WILD WEST someof that verbal viciousness you've wastedon mr lucas.
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Remember Splinter from the Ninja Turtles? I think the same sort of thing would happen here.
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I think there are three ways this could go .
1. Yoda uses a force induced illiusion to scare his attackers and give ILM a chance to flex some fx musle.
2. use the default Jedi mind trick and have his attackers turn on each other. which could be very cool. think a room full of Mandlorian super commandos taking eachother out.
3. The movie stand by what you come up with on your own is better than any thing you could put on the screen. example a room of proto-stormtroopers bust in on Yoda and we see the blast door behind them close. cut to a group of jedi's fighting in another part of the battle. cut back to the blastdoors opening back up and Yoda hobbles out with the proto-stormtroopers all pilled up in the back round. cheap but funny. -
this actually happened and it was cool as fuck. Funny as shit too.
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