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Variety: Fox Could Pull Plug On 24 In ‘The Next Day Or Two’!!

Published at: March 10, 2010, 1:01 a.m. CST by hercules

I am – Hercules!!
Variety says Jack Bauer’s small screen career could be about to end:
Studio and network execs declined comment -- but it's believed that the final decision will be made in the next day or two.
18-49 ratings for current season; older weeks in parentheses: 2.2 (2.7) (2.7) (2.7) (3.0) (2.4) (2.9) (2.8) (3.1) (2.9) Lie To Me (0.0) 2.8 (2.5) (2.8) (2.8) (3.3) (3.1) (3.4) (3.5) (3.9) 24 While “24” hit a ratings uptick on Monday and continues to perform better than “Lie To Me” did in the post-“House” timeslot last fall (“Lie To Me” is reportedly likely to return next season) the actioner’s ratings apparently are no longer high enough to justify the show’s enormous budget. The plug won't be pulled immediately, of course. Regardless of whether "24" gets a ninth season, Fox intends to air all 24 hours of the current eighth season. The cancellation of the series would pave the way for the big-screen version of “24,” scripted by Billy Ray (“Shattered Glass,” “Flightplan”), that would take Bauer to Europe. You'll want to widen your window for this part:

Monday 18-49 finals (prior Mondays in parentheses; repeats in gray): 5.9 (5.9) (3.3) (3.6) (6.0) (5.4) (4.0) (5.3) (5.7) (3.5) (3.0) (3.4) (5.6) (5.6) (3.2) (5.2) (5.0) (4.7) (4.7) (3.8) (5.3) (4.8) (4.7) (5.3) (4.7) Big Bang Theory 5.8 (5.7) (3.3) (3.3) (5.7) (5.1) (3.8) (5.3) (5.4) (3.3) (2.7) (3.2) (5.2) (5.0) (3.2) (4.7) (4.7) (4.6) (4.4) (3.5) (4.8) (4.6) (4.4) (4.8) (4.5) 2½ Men 4.8 (2.1) (2.1) (2.2) (5.1) (4.8) (5.2) (----) (4.6) (----) (1.6) (1.6) (2.1) (-----) (4.8) (4.6) (5.0) (5.3) (----) (----) (4.4) (5.0) (5.4) (5.8) (6.7) House 3.9 (3.9) (2.2) (2.1) (3.8) (3.7) (2.1) (4.0) (3.9) (2.3) (1.8) (1.7) (3.7) (3.5) (2.0) (3.7) (3.4) (3.5) (3.5) (2.6) (3.4) (3.5) (3.4) (3.6) (3.6) How/Mother 3.6 (3.4) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) Rules of Engagement 3.3 (3.4) (2.2) (2.3) (3.9) (3.7) (2.6) (3.6) (3.7) (2.4) (2.2) (2.4) (4.1) (3.7) (2.5) (3.7) (3.7) (4.0) (3.7) (3.1) (3.9) (4.0) (3.9) (4.1) (4.3) CSI: Miami 2.8 (5.3) (3.9) (4.1) (4.1) (4.1) (3.9) (3.8) (3.7) (3.3) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) The Bachelor 2.8 (2.5) (2.8) (2.8) (3.3) (3.1) (3.4) (3.5) (3.9) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) 24 2.4 (----) (1.3) (1.5) (2.5) (2.2) (3.0) (2.8) (2.6) (----) (----) (1.0) (1.1) (2.1) (1.6) (2.7) (2.5) (2.4) (2.4) (2.5) (2.4) (2.4) (2.2) (2.2) (2.3) Castle 2.4 (2.2) (----) (1.5) (1.7) (1.6) (1.9) (1.7) (0.7) (----) (----) (1.4) (0.9) (1.0) (1.1) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Pawn Stars 2.3 (2.4) (----) (----) (2.2) (2.4) (2.5) (2.5) (2.6) (2.9) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Chuck 2.1 (2.1) (2.1) (1.9) (2.1) (2.1) (2.0) (2.0) (2.1) (2.3) (2.0) (1.7) (1.9) (1.8) (1.6) (2.0) (1.9) (1.5) (1.8) (2.1) (1.6) (1.7) (1.7) (1.7) (2.0) WWE Raw (10pm) 1.8 (1.9) (2.0) (1.8) (1.9) (1.7) (1.8) (1.9) (2.1) (2.1) (1.9) (1.6) (1.8) (1.7) (1.7) (1.8) (1.8) (1.6) (1.7) (2.0) (1.7) (1.6) (1.6) (1.6) (1.7) WWE Raw (9pm) 1.8 (1.5) (----) (1.1) (1.1) (1.1) (1.2) (1.2) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) American Pickers 1.5 (2.0) (----) (----) (----) (1.0) (1.3) (----) (1.4) (----) (-----) (----) (----) (1.2) (1.7) (----) (1.4) (1.6) (1.7) (1.4) (1.5) (1.6) (1.5) (1.2) (1.2) Law & Order 1.4 (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (1.6) (1.7) (1.8) (1.8) (2.1) (1.9) (1.8) (1.8) (1.7) (2.2) (----) Trauma 1.1 (1.1) (1.1) (1.1) (1.0) (1.1) (1.2) (1.0) (1.2) (1.6) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Secret/Teenager 1.0 (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (-----) (0.3) (0.3) (0.3) (0.3) (----) (1.2) (1.1) (0.5) (1.2) (1.3) (1.0) (1.2) (1.1) (1.2) (1.1) (1.2) (1.0) Gossip Girl 0.9 (0.8) (0.9) (0.9) (0.9) (1.0) (1.1) (1.2) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Life Unexpected 0.8 (0.7) (0.7) (0.7) (0.8) (0.7) (0.7) (0.7) (0.7) (0.9) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Make It Or Break It 0.5 (0.4) (0.4) (0.2) (0.4) (0.3) (0.3) (0.4) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) My Life As Liz 0.5 (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) ( -----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Fashion Police 0.5 (0.2) (0.4) (0.4) (0.4) (0.4) (0.5) (0.5) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) The Buried Life 0.4 (0.4) (0.4) (0.4) (0.5) (0.5) (0.5) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (0.3) (0.4) (0.3) (0.3) (0.3) (0.4) (0.4) Greek 0.4 (0.4) (0.5) (0.4) (----) (----) (----) (0.7) (0.9) (1.2) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Fantasia For Real 0.4 (0.4) (0.4) (0.4) (1.0) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Celebrity Fit Club 0.3 (----) (0.4) (0.2) (0.3) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Kell on Earth 0.2 (0.3) (0.2) (0.2) (0.2) (0.2) (0.3) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Damages

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  • March 10, 2010, 12:30 a.m. CST

    Farewell Jack Bauer.

    by polisciguy83

    Be nice to see Tony one more time.

  • March 10, 2010, 12:33 a.m. CST

    cancel a show to get a movie?

    by FrodoFraggins

    weird

  • March 10, 2010, 12:34 a.m. CST

    If the film doesn't have Henry Ian Cusick, I won't watch it.

    by Shermdawg

    I'M SERIOUS. Theo Stoller better be in that shit.

  • March 10, 2010, 12:40 a.m. CST

    They might have enough time to alter final episode.

    by polisciguy83

    Give it enough oomph for Jack's final tv appearance. As for a movie, I'll believe it when it happens. They could probably do one with a modest budget and turn a profit.

  • March 10, 2010, 12:48 a.m. CST

    Only themselves to blame...

    by V'Shael

    because the writing has ALWAYS been the weak point on this show, and they never fixed it in 8 years. From Terri's amnesia to the cougar, to rednecks for Starbuck.

  • March 10, 2010, 12:52 a.m. CST

    how enormous is the budget?

    by brechtsky

    because back in like 99, Friends doled out 6 mill per half hour, and thats just to the cast.... this show is so absurdly popular, especially in the home video market, they should follow the smallville business model and not blatantly lie and pretend the thing's not astronomically profitable for them.

  • March 10, 2010, 1:03 a.m. CST

    I'd rather have a good Jack Bauer movie

    by SmokingRobot

    Than a bad ninth season.

  • March 10, 2010, 1:07 a.m. CST

    The last 2 episodes.

    by Grando

    Have actually been much improved over the rest of this seaosn. The reason? As little Dana/hillbilly side plot as possible. Oh, and Jack theatining to kill a terrorists mother. That's your classic Jack right there. It felt soooo good. MMmmmmmm.

  • March 10, 2010, 1:19 a.m. CST

    "In the next day or two"

    by Bass Ackwards

    I thought the headline was a clever way of saying 24 might run for one or two more seasons.

  • March 10, 2010, 1:19 a.m. CST

    no frakking surprise

    by JaredP

    this season has been awful its the same old situation terrorist attack someone whos supposed to be good turns out to be evil jack tortures someone to get information give me a fuckin break already its time it was put out to pasture maybe it should have happened 2 years ago after it was found out jacks brother and father were behind the plots of seasons 5 and 6 it jumped the shark with that one

  • March 10, 2010, 1:44 a.m. CST

    Never watched a single minute of it.

    by Jaka

    And I don't feel like I missed a thing. Just not my "thing", I guess.

  • March 10, 2010, 2:23 a.m. CST

    As a long time 14 fan i say..

    by JackBoner

    end it..its time. end it and make the movie, if it does well maybe squeeze out a few. but do it right for christs sakes' no cougars, shitty subplots, and stick to the source material. which is jack bauer woopin ass on some terrorists. Besides what else would Kiefer honestly do?

  • March 10, 2010, 2:24 a.m. CST

    Don't really agree with the writing this season anyway...

    by jedimast3r

    This season has been abysmal. <p>Dana Walsh/Katee Sackhoff was such an enormous miscast; the story arc is reminiscent of food poisoning. Why the fuck was this female character written when you could do so much with Annie Wershing/Renee Walker? Renee going crazy/suicidal? What the fuck? Why not just make her a badass and partner her up with Jack? She's a huge fan fav; noone wants to see Starbuck, do they? <p>Personally, I could think of several directions the series could have gone in, and for it's eighth and from what has come before, they really needed to blow our minds. All this show is doing is spiraling downward; I hope they nuke the world in the season finale (since the producers have been quoted to say that things probably wouldn't end on a happy note for this show). <p>RIP 24; I've watched faithfully but I think you've been on for 5 seasons too long. Such horrible writing.

  • March 10, 2010, 2:25 a.m. CST

    oops meant 24

    by JackBoner

    name the movie 14 and cut off the shitty first 10 episodes lol :P

  • March 10, 2010, 2:31 a.m. CST

    hahahaha. 14. Classic.

    by Urall Luzers

  • March 10, 2010, 2:35 a.m. CST

    This season has been THE WORST.

    by ScoobySnack

    First of all, anyone who claims that the writing on 24 has been consistently awful hasn't watched the show. Yes, Terri's amnesia was a bit of a stretch in Season 1, but given the circumstances which led up to it, it was explained well. And every season up to, and including, the brilliant Season 5 has had its share of tension and heart-stopping moments. Unfortunately, with Season 6, it's all been downhill, and this season is the absolute nadir of this show.<p> <p> The writing this season is TRULY awful because NOTHING makes sense. EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER, including Jack, is written as stupid. It's embarrassing. Among this season's many sins: <p> <p> 1) The fact that Dana Walsh, a convicted felon, could even get a job at CTU, one of the most secure government agencies, and one with a history of moles in the organization, which means they would be even more vigilant in vetting their employees; <p> 2) The fact that Dana Walsh is the stupidest character ever on the series, by talking on the phone with her crazy ex at work (where she could be monitored), by meeting her crazy ex right outside of CTU (where she WAS monitored), by helping her crazy ex steal government funds USING COMPANY EQUIPMENT (where, conveniently, no one was monitoring her), to thinking that murdering her crazy ex would make any sense; <p> 3) The fact that straight-arrow Cole would suddenly agree to murdering two people, burying their bodies, and think that was a good idea; 4) The fact that Rack Bauer has a backstory that makes no sense in light of previously established backstory; <p> 5) Jack's miraculous ability to shrug off almost fatal wounds with no problem whenever it is convenient for the plot; <p> 6) The fact that Jack can take out his torturer and several Russian mobsters--after being knifed, electrocuted and shot in the arm--but can't catch up with a gimpy kid who just fell three stories to the ground and was shuffling around the hospital and managed to lock himself in a metal box before Jack could catch up with him; <p> 7) The fact that the sexually inappropriate comments by CTU Tech Nerd are still going on TEN EPISODES IN. It was stupid in episode one... it's unforgivable now; <p> 8) The fact that the episodes used to end on a cliffhanger every episode in the past, and now go out with a whimper every single week; <p> 9) The fact that Jack, our hero, spent an ENTIRE EPISODE sitting in a car; <p> 10) The fact that a good-ol' Southern boy parole officer is shaking down Dana and not whoever should be investigating the brutal assault of a warehouse security guard from where Dana's crazy ex stole money. <p> <p> It's all so disheartening. The new writing team that joined the series within the last two seasons fucked over the show, and now it deserves to be canceled. Brannon Braga, I'm looking at you.

  • March 10, 2010, 2:54 a.m. CST

    Jack Bauer should become a Nick Fury/Solid Snake type.

    by dailysportspages

    Sent on missions both foreign and domestic with consequences that are global in scope. <br><br> He can be the american James Bond, but more in the muck of it all and not as stylish (well except the Jack Sack).<br> And that could be the impetus for the movie, or next season.<br><br> At the end of this season you can have him be taken away to serve in this new unit comprised solely of him + his support staff. <br> All of his remaining family should be killed Chesty McBauer too, that would once and for all sever his only ties left to his humanity.<br> The government would fake his death and turn Jack Bauer into a ghost.<br> <br> They can give him a team of support staff, with Chloe on comms.

  • March 10, 2010, 3:09 a.m. CST

    Of course when they say the next day or so...

    by dj_bollocks

    ...they could mean in the next season or two... It has been extremely boring this season though...

  • March 10, 2010, 3:10 a.m. CST

    oops missed bass ackwards post...

    by dj_bollocks

  • March 10, 2010, 3:11 a.m. CST

    Never watched it

    by HercThinksEntourageIsBetterThanArrestedDevelopment

    Heard it was good, then it was bad, then it was good, then it was...blah blah blah. Too many seasons. Now I don't even really want to start it.

  • March 10, 2010, 3:34 a.m. CST

    bleep bloop.. bleep bloop...bleep bloop...

    by gotilk

    ree-er-ree-er-ree-er squak-squak. (Ms Pac man death sound effect)

  • March 10, 2010, 3:38 a.m. CST

    DAMMIT!!!

    by Master Bruce

    Really liked seasons 5 & 6...7 was okay...so far 8 is, well, entertaining on the pure-cheese level, but other than that... If the proposed movies are anything like the TV movie they did awhile back, then they could be fun as well.

  • March 10, 2010, 3:38 a.m. CST

    V'Shael

    by DC Films

    I beg to differ - the main plots have been, until now, very well written. In fact it's the consistantly cunning plot twists and character reveals which are exactly what has made 24 stand out - they put the bar very high for some time.<p><p>What has always sucked in 24 are the tedious SUB-plots. Whether it's his daughter, or a CTU employee with a domestic issue, or the presidents son in a pickle, they have constantly risked bringing the shows pace to a grinding halt.<p><p>Obviously they need sub-plots, but they need to rival the quality of the main-plot.<p><p>It's as though they give the good writers the main-plot to script, and give the sub-plots to a couple of cheap hacks!<p><p>I imagine the good writers leave script gaps, saying "Insert Katee Sackhoff hillbilly part 9 here...."<p><p>It's like the poor quality of the sub-plots has become a format point in writing the show - like they think they have to be badly written or it breaks the formula.<p><p>Well done Fox for screwing up the best show on tv.<p><p>BTW, Katee Sackhoff is not badly cast - she's a good actress doing the best she can with badly written material that requires her to go through the same archs and reactions over and over again with very little development. The dumb writers probably think they're piling on the tension for her, but in fact they're erasing the character's credibility and empathy as there's only so long we can watch her being manipulated before we stop caring. And guess what - getting the fiance involved won't help, he'll just become another part of season 9s problems.

  • March 10, 2010, 3:41 a.m. CST

    I love this show more than anything but....

    by Drsambeckett1984

    I think the time has come to end it now. All I want is the return of Nina Myers at the end, and no cliffhangers!!!

  • March 10, 2010, 3:42 a.m. CST

    I'll bet they squeeze one more season out...

    by CCon99

    I'm betting they'll probably announce they came o terms for a season 10 and that it will be the shows last.

  • March 10, 2010, 4:11 a.m. CST

    @DC Films. That's not disagreeing with me.

    by V'Shael

    You're just being more specific than I was. I said the writing has always been the weak link, and you say the writing on the sub plots is the weak link. And you're right, it has. Look at the examples I gave, amnesia, cougar, rednecks. It's the writing. It's always been the writing. You want to get specific, and pin it down to the writing on the subplots, I won't stop you. But that doesn't mean the fault lies anywhere other than the writing.<p> They've had 8 years to learn that plotting matters, and you can't make shit up week in week out and expect it to be good. They needed to plan the full 24 hours including subplots, and I don't think they've ever done that.

  • March 10, 2010, 4:37 a.m. CST

    The writing staff on 24 just became LAZY

    by Big Dumb Ape

    24 desperately NEEDS to switch to the big screen, where perhaps it can have more scope and scale and something can actually HAPPEN, if Fox wants to keep it alive as a creative property. And that's because the TV incarnation has become terminally flat. I thought last year sucked royal ass, but this year is every bit as bad.<p>As V'Shael noted above, they've had 8 years to fine tune the writing and yet it's STILL 24's weakest link. And that's just shameful. How hard is it to come up with a good concept that will drive a new "day" forward, and to then sit in a room and brainstorm 23 attention grabbing cliffhangers and one balls out finale?<p>Given how many writers here in Hollywood would love to be on the staff of a TV show or are simply writers looking for a chance to prove themselves, its ridiculous that on a show like 24 -- which actually had Fox squarely behind it and where the studio willing to spend cash to keep the show going -- how fucking LAZY the writing staff on 24 ultimately became.<p>Seriously, talk about a writing staff phoning it in to collect an easy paycheck. Keifer should Bauer THEIR asses!

  • March 10, 2010, 4:50 a.m. CST

    there already was a 24 movie

    by JohnRyder

    it was called Vantage Point

  • March 10, 2010, 4:53 a.m. CST

    Big Dumb Ape

    by Drsambeckett1984

    "How hard is it to come up with a good concept that will drive a new "day" forward, and to then sit in a room and brainstorm 23 attention grabbing cliffhangers and one balls out finale?"! <P> The answer is very hard. have a go yourself, I'm not saying the writing on 24 is always perfect and that some of the side plots arent retarded, but the concept of the show makes it difficult to keep coming up with completely fresh stuff. <P> 23 cliffhangers per season, thats 184, do you think you could come up with 184 different cliffhangers? Also, when 24 started, not every episode ended on a cliffhanger.

  • March 10, 2010, 4:55 a.m. CST

    You'll want to widen your window for this part

    by neoaddix

    I said that to the wife last night before making the beast with two backs.

  • March 10, 2010, 5:09 a.m. CST

    How will it end?

    by goatherdingclownhunter

    It will turn out that somehow Charles Logan and Naked Mandy were behind all this.

  • March 10, 2010, 5:11 a.m. CST

    14 is actually a good idea.

    by Ironmuskrat

    I think the biggest problem with the show right now is 24 episode format. Sure it was cool idea in the beginning, but it's really hindering the show at this point. Cut the number of episodes in half to a 13 or 14 show season. That would end the need to pad the season out with needless, silly subplots and filler episodes. I doubt most people would notice or care if there wasn't actually 24 hour long episodes in a season as long as the story was good and concentrated on what people really want to see, which is Jack kicking terrorist ass.

  • March 10, 2010, 5:20 a.m. CST

    V'Shael

    by DC Films

    Yep, not arguing with you. What i meant was that i think the main-plot writing has been outstanding (until now) - 24 made it's name with great plot twists and uncompromising characterization (particularly for it's ruthless protagonist).<p><p> I think the problematic writing is only in the sub-plot, which, as you're example point out, are pretty bloody awful. The only time Kim's presence made a real dramatic connection with the main-plot was season 7 (giving Jack a reason to live).<P><P>I'd love to know if you''re write about never plotting the how 24 hours in advance. If so they've done a good job pulling it out the bag in most seasons. This season doesn't look so much like they didn't plot it, it just looks like they didn't know how, or didn't care.

  • March 10, 2010, 5:23 a.m. CST

    Drsambeckett1984

    by DC Films

    I can vouch for that - very bloody hard indeed (as this season has proved)

  • March 10, 2010, 5:33 a.m. CST

    At this point it can be considered a mercy killing

    by The McPoyle Clan

    A fan since the start, but wouldn't be sad to see it end. Many things aren't meant to last forever, and 24, with its theme and time constraint more so.

  • March 10, 2010, 5:42 a.m. CST

    I love it so

    by goatherdingclownhunter

    I will be honest: I love 24. But I want to lay it to rest soon. The 8th season does not excite. This is a shame, because season 7 was actually pretty damn good. You had a fresh set of characters who (unlike Dana and Freddie) were WELL-WRITTEN. You had a relatively tight plot. You had Tony Almeida believably playing baddies and goodies off eachother in order to serve his own vengeful ends. This season you merely have a Middle Eastern leader with an awful pompador, and some dumb redneck rampage shit going on in the background.

  • March 10, 2010, 6:14 a.m. CST

    sounds like a good premise for another 24 hours.

    by alice133

    jack is about to be canceled and has 24 hours to stop it.

  • March 10, 2010, 6:29 a.m. CST

    Bud good drama is about characterisation...

    by dj_bollocks

    We don't know or don't care about half these characters, and becasue they've killed off all the ones we had invested in they had to start from scratch... Just imagine if Ryan Chappelle, Bill Buchanan, George Mason, David Palmer, Sherry Palmer, Michelle Dessler, Chase Edmunds Curtis Manning, Edgar Stiles, Karen Hayes, James Heller etc etc were still around... Obviously not all of them are dead but they really shot their load in killing a lot of characters or not sticking with them... Couldn't give a shit about half of the latest lot...

  • March 10, 2010, 6:32 a.m. CST

    I've said it before & I'll say it again

    by TheSeeker7

    It's really quite disappointing to see that such elaborate and thorough TV ratings numbers has become a regular fixture of news here on this site. I love ya Herc but c'mon, what the fuck are you doing.

  • March 10, 2010, 6:36 a.m. CST

    it went ridiculous in the 2nd half of season 2

    by TheSeeker7

    Kim & Cougars, and been horribly downhill ever since. I stopped watching after season 3, when even at that point I'd long considered it a guilty pleasure, I didn't openly talk about how I was still watching it, I was embarrassed.<br> <br> It kills me, this show has lasted as long as it has, meanwhile "The Unit" barely got to cough out 4 seasons, and it was an INFINITELY better show while dealing with essentially the same subject matter. The Unit was 24 for smart people.

  • March 10, 2010, 6:38 a.m. CST

    I have a VERY solid source

    by altoandando

    who says the redneck story will receive not one but two spin-offs: a prequel and a fast-paced thriller called "Jenny". trust me... it's happening.

  • March 10, 2010, 6:44 a.m. CST

    The best way for this series to have ended...

    by mr_macphisto

    Would have been at the end of Season Five, at Palmer's funeral.

  • March 10, 2010, 6:47 a.m. CST

    It takes till mid season to grow attached

    by Drsambeckett1984

    to any of the characters, admittedly hardly any of this seasons gang really strike me. <P> We have Jack and Chloe, even Renee to some degree, the rest are expendable. But that is the way 24 has always been. <P> When was the last time you really cared about a character getting bumped off? hasnt been for years. <P> The last time 24 generated any real emotion for me was season 6, when Jack breaks down on the phone to Bill, moments before the bomb goes off. <P> And Bills death in season 7. That was harsh.

  • March 10, 2010, 7:03 a.m. CST

    Brechtsky

    by hst666

    The audience for Friends dwarfs that of 24, even if you factor in DVD sales. Really, it's the ratio of audience to cost that's determinative. Get 30+ million viewers every week and you can charge more for ads and you can have a higher budget. This is why reality shows can thrive with relatively small audiences. Lower ad rates, but much lower costs.

  • March 10, 2010, 7:10 a.m. CST

    Sorry, DrSamBeckett and DC Films, but you're wrong...

    by Big Dumb Ape

    It's NOT that hard to craft 24 solid episodes for this show -- or at least episodes that would not be as boring or as ridiculously stupid and sub-par as this show has gotten in the last 3 or 4 years. And it's certainly NOT that hard when you consider my points that this was a show that Fox was solidly behind, that it was willing to put money into, and again I reiterate what I said before -- it shouldn't be that hard when you have an entire writing staff pooling their ideas and BRAINSTORMING out the cliffhangers and various subplots.<p>I never said ONE writer had to do it all. I would agree that would be a Herculean task. But for Heaven's sake, when you're talking about crafting 24 episodes to compromise a season and have a writing staff of 6 to 8 writers -- mind you, each of whom are SUPPOSED to be professional writers WORTHY of being on staff of a major TV show -- you'd only be asking them to simply supply three good ideas each. THREE! For fuck's sake, if you're going to call yourself a professional writer and you can't come up with THREE ideas in the course of an entire TV season, then you need to be looking for another job and making way for those writers who CAN meet that challenge.<p>The bottom line: it's NOT that tough if you have a creatively solid staff that's enthusiastic about "what" they're doing. Which goes back to my original post that these guys just got lazy, otherwise they needed to bring in new writers with new ideas to get fresh blood pumping through 24's aging body.

  • March 10, 2010, 7:30 a.m. CST

    Missing the big target

    by teedadawg

    Why is no one talking about the ACTING??? This show is by FAR the worst acted "popular" show on television. But if we're going to focus on the writing, other series seem to be able to excel at writing season-long storylines that compel viewers. Why not "24"? The villains are old hat: Non-specific Middle Easterners. Russian dinosaurs pining away for the glory days of the Cold War. Treasonous American politicians. A more contemporary plotline would have Jack Bauer kicking ass in middle America, chasing down some skinhead cell loading up on weapons so they can stage a preemptive strike against what they view as the pending race wars. THAT would be a season worth watching. Jack might find these rednecks a more formidable opponent, tough enough not to piss themselves every time he pointed a gun at them and screamed, "Put it down!" But unless they get some good actors to play the parts, it'd be just another wasted opportunity.

  • March 10, 2010, 7:42 a.m. CST

    We're just watching out of habit at this point

    by fanboy71

    This season really has been shit. The whole Dana Walsh sidestory is ridiculous on so many levels. Freddie does not do action well. (What happened to Rick Schroder as Mike Doyle? He was way more believable.) Renee is a loon now after being perfectly sane last season. JACK SITS IN THE CAR TOO MUCH! They will have to make some drastic moves to salvage the rest of this season. Drop the hillbilly subplot for one. Does ANYBODY like that story? I think not. I never thought I would like the idea of 24 being cancelled.

  • March 10, 2010, 7:48 a.m. CST

    Big Dumb Ape

    by DC Films

    So how many prime-time cliffhangers have you participated in writing?<p><p>Now don't take offense, but don't knock it til you tried it. <p><p>I agree that the show is in big trouble, but they set the bar for themselves real high and are now falling way below.<p><p>My guess is there's a lack of inspired leadership, what with the recent changes, to focus the writers. With a 'writing-team' that's a priority.

  • March 10, 2010, 7:52 a.m. CST

    I'll believe it when I see it...

    by Stegman84

    Practically every year at around the half way point of the season it's the same song and dance "this season may be Jack Bauer's last", or some variation on that. Even when Sutherland is already signed for further seasons the "this could be it" bomb gets dropped. Personally I think this has more to do with fighting the traditional mid season slump, and with putting the possibility that "maybe this year Jack will die at the end! OMG!" buttons than anything to do with Fox seriously considering dropping the show. In fact I think the show will be around for pretty much as long as Sutherland wants it to be, and is still interested in doing it. And even if Fox was considering the end, I think they'd do the show on a tighter budget for a season and see how that worked out rather than just arbitrarily pulling the rug out all of a sudden. Hell, a pared back down 'n dirty and more low tech version of the show might even be just what the show needs to refreshen it a little bit, and bring some new ideas and new pathways into the format. <p>Anyway, regardless of what happens I'll be there to the end, because in my opinion even weaker 24 is still better than at least 95% of the other shows that litter network tv these days.

  • March 10, 2010, 8:10 a.m. CST

    How is Spooks holding up?

    by mjgtexas

    I had to pull the plug on the deluxe cable package, so no more BBC America.

  • March 10, 2010, 8:16 a.m. CST

    fanboy71

    by Drsambeckett1984

    I too would like Mike Doyle back but wasnt he blinded?

  • March 10, 2010, 8:18 a.m. CST

    mjgtexas -- Spooks

    by DC Films

    ...Is holding up a damn sight better than 24 !!!<p><p>Never thought that would be the case...<p><p>The last series was only slightly weaker than the previous one, but had another decent cliffhanger ending and hopefully it'll improve. The female lead is a great counterpart to Jack - just as unpredictable as he was at his height.<p><p>They seem to be continuing with multi-season archs which is great - they just need to improve their set-pieces slightly, but that all about budget as well as writing.<p><p>So, it's the Rabbit & The Hare >> what started as a pale facsimile of 24, has now left that beleaguered show standing. 24 needs to spend a little more for it's managing writing talent or their f**k*d. Pity Ronald D. Moore is busy with his Caprica baby...

  • March 10, 2010, 8:20 a.m. CST

    I always thought it should end with Jack's death.

    by CatVutt

    But in a season this fucking awful, that would be unforgivable.

  • March 10, 2010, 8:21 a.m. CST

    do they mean actual days

    by punto

    or a couple of seasons?

  • March 10, 2010, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Spooks? Amazing show...

    by V'Shael

    For some reason, when they kill off cast members on Spooks, it always seems to hit me harder than the killing of cast members on 24. <p> I kinda still haven't gotten over what happened to Adam.

  • March 10, 2010, 8:58 a.m. CST

    this show let me down, it let the fans down

    by mynamesdan

    it let itself down.

  • March 10, 2010, 9 a.m. CST

    V'Shael

    by DC Films

    I know what you mean. Adams death was pretty cold-blooded > k'boom, he's off.<p><p>I think the reason Spooks cast death have more impact is because the characterization works better. They don't alienate the characters with dull procedural dialogue, nor do they try to endear us to the cast in general with turgid sub-plots.

  • March 10, 2010, 9 a.m. CST

    Yes, Bauer deserves a glorious death!

    by blackmantis

    Fuck the movie.

  • March 10, 2010, 9:02 a.m. CST

    This is the first season I'm not watching 24

    by D.Vader

    But it has nothing to do with quality. I missed the 2 hour premiere and the very next hour after that and I didn't want to feel lost. I figured I'd catch up by watching online, but so far I haven't had time for that.

  • March 10, 2010, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Kill Bauer, make the Movie a prequel

    by Unlabled

    Bring back Tony and Buchanan, and then bring a bunch of solid film vets to fill out casting.

  • March 10, 2010, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Marwan was the best Bad Guy

    by Unlabled

    How can you even front on that?

  • March 10, 2010, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Sadly, I wouldn't mind if it went away...

    by turketron_2

    The first 4 seasons were great, the 5th was decent though they killed off all the good characters. 6 was terrible, 7 was good, and 8 has been pretty bad so far but not as bad as 6. They need to either bring on some new blood writers to shake things up, or just end it. Bauer kicking ass in Europe would be cool.

  • March 10, 2010, 9:24 a.m. CST

    in all this time noone could kill CHLOE?

    by Kaiser Soze

    I mean dammit, Chloe has been far too annoying since she first set foot on the show. There's no amount of logic that could make her look hot, either. So why is she the one that constantly survives?

  • March 10, 2010, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Am I the only one (somewhat) enjoying Season 8?

    by Kaiser Soze

    Personally, I'm enjoying it. The Sackhoff story sucks, but other than that it's been good. I've even warmed up to Bubba since Jack had that talk with him a few eps. ago. I'm still rooting for Chloe to get hit with a sudden and fatal brain aneurism, though. Plus, I DO have a sneaking suspicion that the big bad pulling all the strings this season is really Pres. Hassan's hair (that thing on his head frightens me). But in all, I though Sea. 7 was excellent after the abysmal Sea. 6, and Sea. 8 hasn't been too bad so far. The only othere thing I'd really ask for is more Renee (preferably topless). Then we can finally answer the age old question of wether her freckles extend to her nipples.

  • March 10, 2010, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Variety has confirmed the spin-off "Jenny-4"

    by altoandando

    I didn't believe it myself, but apparently Sackoff has already signed the contract. It will follow her and her adventures, infiltrating organizations, running from her past. Each episode will by "4 days in Jenny's life". Is anyone else not really excited about this?

  • March 10, 2010, 9:32 a.m. CST

    They should have ended it at Season 5

    by YackBacker

    And had a movie where Jack busts out of China.

  • March 10, 2010, 9:33 a.m. CST

    agree on the Herc ratings "stories"

    by Kaiser Soze

    most times no one on this site gives two shits about the previous night's ratings. I think it's the same affliction that befalls all of Herc's "writing". It's a quick and easy cut and paste job that keeps his lazy ass paid while he doesn't really have to write much (unless he can find a way to link his article to Joss Whedon or SNL, then he can write up a storm!).

  • March 10, 2010, 9:55 a.m. CST

    This formula could have gone on forever...

    by boogel

    If they had not made it so Jackcentric. But for some reason they ended up making the same mistake Tom Clancy made with so many of his books. The stories became harder and harder to get into as more and more over-the-top crap happened to the hero. If Jack had been killed or somehow sidelined after three or four seasons and they inserted a new hero, the stories wouldn't be feeling so stale. I still think Ricky Schroder was the perfect opportunity to do just that.

  • March 10, 2010, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Leno sucks

    by jawsfan

    Go Conan!

  • March 10, 2010, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Kaiser Soze

    by Hercules

    On reviewing your talkback history, I find your obsession with me troubling. For your own good I hereby forbid you from reading my column.

  • March 10, 2010, 10:46 a.m. CST

    ratings stories

    by Hercules

    I asked talkbackers months ago whether they wanted the ratings stories. A few hated them to be sure, but the overwhelming majority wanted them to continue. So if you don't like them I guess you'll have to find another place to find your TV news!

  • March 10, 2010, 10:47 a.m. CST

    There are so many better things on TV than 24

    by Turd Furgeson

    Between new episodes of cake boss, Damages and The Bachelor, there's more and better options now. I stopped watching 24 this year but I'm sure so far there's been at least 1 plot against the President, 1 nuclear bomb, 1 Jack kidnapping, and 13 Damnits... Am I wrong? LOST is also starting to feel old and I'm ready for it to end.

  • March 10, 2010, 10:49 a.m. CST

    HERC your rating stories are awesome

    by Turd Furgeson

    These articles are amongst the ones I read regularly. Keep at it, it's cool stuff.

  • March 10, 2010, 11:01 a.m. CST

    RE: Leno vs. Letterman Ratings

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    While it's certainly not an established trend (yet), here are the latest numbers:<P> http://tinyurl.com/yeycssf

  • March 10, 2010, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Cancel a show to get a movie?

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    It's like Buffy in reverse.

  • March 10, 2010, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Running on fumes since Day 5

    by I am_NOTREAL

    You know this to be true. It's time, Keifer -- but look at it this way. By the end of day 8, you'll have logged 192 hours of this show. It would've taken you about 90 movies to get that much screentime.

  • March 10, 2010, 11:13 a.m. CST

    So will the movie be called "2"?

    by br1947

  • March 10, 2010, 11:20 a.m. CST

    24 always worked to hard to break fans expectations.

    by jimbojones123

    Too bad they usually did it the wrong way. Variety is reporting that the plug may be pulled on the next 24 hours. Shame that they just never really gave the fans what they wanted. Season three was full steam ahead, but the deaths of key characters replaced with hackish characitures of what made the originals work left fans wondering much more "why did they do that!" than "that was awesome!". Shame that the show just never let play out what they put in place. "Game Changers" became too routine, and suffered from the law of diminishing returns. The last great one was President Logan was the mastermind behind Palmer's death.

  • March 10, 2010, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Kaiser, keep on reading and posting to Herc's columns

    by Stabby

    Your insights into Herc's writing or lack thereof is dead on.

  • March 10, 2010, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Herc, the only reason we check out your ratings columns

    by Stabby

    is so we can talk about the shows you don't post about.

  • March 10, 2010, 11:39 a.m. CST

    I only saw season 1. I would watch it again...I think i will...

    by theDannerDaliel

  • March 10, 2010, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Yes, absolutely

    by skydemon

  • March 10, 2010, 11:59 a.m. CST

    It shouldn't have been hard for GOOD writers..

    by Thanos0145

    to come up with ideas for this show. Why did these writers think it was a good idea to make a good FBI Agent in Freckles Bauer and retcon her into a crazy/damaged person? Who thought the REDNECK STORYLINE WAS A GOOD IDEA?<p>I'd rather have a good 2hr 24 movie than another crappy season.

  • March 10, 2010, 11:59 a.m. CST

    didnt ST:TNG end the show to make movies?

    by Bouncy X

    the show ended in may of 1994 and then 6 months later they released Generations.

  • March 10, 2010, noon CST

    It should end now

    by skydemon

    Eight seasons are enough for any series. I like the way the producers of LOST are ending the series this year. Time to move on, and bookend the series with a great movie. :-)

  • March 10, 2010, noon CST

    we need a second coax writer

    by BandysTract

    herc's taste is questionable at best

  • March 10, 2010, 12:03 p.m. CST

    The site doesn't tout Box Office numbers...

    by JediRob

    ...so I don't really think it should do ratings. That's always been my feeling. I like Herc, his columns and opinions, the highlighting of the numbers themselves just somewhat irks me. <br><br>It just seems a little out of place with the rest of the ideals of the site, which usually try to lean towards creative, fun or cool factors as opposed to bottom line. As most of us know numbers do not denote quality or even true popularity. Especially Nielsen numbers. And I think it is bad practice for an enlightened site to continue to propagate a long antiquated system.

  • March 10, 2010, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Herc

    by Kaiser Soze

    if you would display the writing of a journalist, I wouldn't have such a problem with your writing. But most of your stories and "scoops" are stolen from other sites, and you just write a quick blurb around it and call it your own. If I didn't constantly see your articles with cut/pasted blurbs from other sources, then maybe I wouldn't harp on it so much. How about instead of getting offended, look at your output on this site and ask yourself how you can respect your journalistic integrity when you hardly write any of what you post, cover long past its prime dredge like SNL, and basically ignore any and all TV that you don't personally like. A true TV critic should cover a wider selection of television programming than you ever have, not just pay attention to his/her personal favs. If you would show even a little journalistic integrity maybe I wouldn't feel you were the worst on-staff writer on this site.

  • March 10, 2010, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Herc's love of ratings numbers bites him in the ass

    by Stabby

    when it comes to his hack dreamgirl, Josselin Whedon. I actually enjoyed watching as Herc tracked the declining ratings of his beloved abortion Sh*thouse like the masochist he is, while shows like Ghost Whisperer continue to soar.

  • March 10, 2010, 12:23 p.m. CST

    I saw a commercial yesterday that said

    by smackfu

    The highest rated show on Television was NCIS. NCIS. The show starting Mark Harmon as a guy investigating crimes involving military people. It's basically the re-animated afterbirth of CSI & Law & Order's lovechild. First JAG and now this shit? Is America really so gung-ho for their fucking army that they forgo any semblance of taste in favor of anything that has to do with the military?

  • March 10, 2010, 12:28 p.m. CST

    seriously, Herc

    by Kaiser Soze

    you're covering a show on the CW - how old are you and how old do you think your audience is? don't think there's many people who still visit AICN that care about a damn thing on the tweener channel

  • March 10, 2010, 12:37 p.m. CST

    bring back...

    by ketchuplover

    Tony

  • March 10, 2010, 12:38 p.m. CST

    How 24 Could Have Saved Itself

    by The Colonel

    Read this idea, pretty solid: http://bit.ly/dAm4Il

  • March 10, 2010, 12:38 p.m. CST

    I still say

    by Kaiser Soze

    President Hassan's hair is one of the conspirators

  • March 10, 2010, 12:41 p.m. CST

    @ Kaiser Soze

    by DC Films

    Yep.

  • March 10, 2010, 12:43 p.m. CST

    the should John McClane with Jack Bauer

    by Kaiser Soze

    Instead of chasing nuclear materials and co-concpirators while making direct calls to the president, if they really want to shake up 24, give Jack a season without Chloe or his support system, just stick him in the wrong place at the wrong time and have to work his way out of a situation without his traditional backup players.

  • March 10, 2010, 12:45 p.m. CST

    @ Kaiser Soze

    by DC Films

    ...You are indeed the only person enjoying season 8 ;)

  • March 10, 2010, 1:18 p.m. CST

    About Time

    by _Maltheus_

    Although I'd rather a wrap-up season to a wrap-up movie. And with this and Lost going off the air, that doesn't leave much to watch on TV. On a side note, last Monday's Chuck was perhaps the best of the series.

  • March 10, 2010, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Don't Kill Off Jack

    by JonJonB

    It would be absolute predictable dogshit for Jack to be killed off in the last season or the movie. A happy ending for him would be fitting and deserved after the shit he's gone through.

  • March 10, 2010, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Die Hard 24 is a stupid fanboy dream.

    by jimbojones123

    Why not put the JLU on Hoth or have Neo search for the Dark Crystal? Stupid.

  • March 10, 2010, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Bouncy X, no, not really.

    by Jaka

    The actors actually wanted to end the series before that. However, at the time it was the highest rated show in the history of TV syndication (didn't have 875 channels like we do now), so the studio clearly wanted more. Money talked and they kept going. I believe that was the case for seasons six and seven. I'm not sure when they started planning on making Generations as TOS movies were still being released during the life of TNG on TV. I do know they'd been planning on doing some kind of TNG movie for years, though. The "seven seasons" rule then went into affect for future ST series for no particular reason. Both TNG and DS9 were making money and getting ratings at the end of their runs and could have gone on longer. DS9 was actually more popular at the end of it's run than the beginning.

  • March 10, 2010, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Smackfu, pretty good rant there

    by I am_NOTREAL

    Except that NCIS is about the Navy, not the Army...hence the "N" in NCIS. Just want to get that out of the way. There's a big difference.

  • March 10, 2010, 2:22 p.m. CST

    The Ratings posts are more interesting than 24 S8

    by chromedome

    you know it's true

  • March 10, 2010, 2:22 p.m. CST

    I could MAYBE see 2 seasons, but come one now

    by Xian042

    how many 24 emergencies is this dude going to face? I think he'd crack by now.

  • March 10, 2010, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Kaiser Soze

    by Hercules

    I've been doing this the same way for 10 years now; it's not like I've pulled this sudden bait and switch on you. There must be 100,000 or more other sites that cover TV news; I'm sure you'll find one you like better. Adios, amigo!

  • March 10, 2010, 2:49 p.m. CST

    This is such an easy show to do correctly...

    by Rickey Henderson

    All the writers have to do is give the people what they want: Jack running around in high octane situations. What do we get in S8? Jack wearing a disguise! Jack sitting in the goddamned car reading an ipad for three episodes in a row! The Hillbillies take Manhattan! THIS IS SUCH AN EASY SHOW TO DO PROPERLY AND YET THEY FUCKED IT UP!

  • March 10, 2010, 2:56 p.m. CST

    this season is devoid of anyhting interesting

    by Waka_Flocka

    i'd rather watch season 6 over this

  • March 10, 2010, 2:57 p.m. CST

    i agree hendo

    by Waka_Flocka

    it's not hard to make 24 exciting. i don't understand why they have to try and top each season with retardedness. go back to basics

  • March 10, 2010, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Herc

    by Kaiser Soze

    I wouldn't brag about using other peoples words as your own 'articles' for 10 years. I'm sorry you feel your writing has no faults, but as a Journalism major I can tell you that just cut/pasting other sites' articles and calling them your own puts you somewhere below tabloid journalists. At least they write theri own stuff. But honestly, if you can't take criticism then you probably shouldn't be writing on the net. And, I'm sorry you don't like it, but as long as you continue to "write" in such a manner, I and others will be there to call it for the lazy writing that it is. Don't put yourself out there if you can't handle being judged.

  • March 10, 2010, 3:12 p.m. CST

    here's an idea

    by Kaiser Soze

    how about instead of thinking of some snarky comeback Herc you actually take the time to try and improve your writing to where you don't have to rely on quotes and youtube links to fill the page. something that makes your articles on here sought after rather than a joke...in 10 years you would think there would have been some improvement

  • March 10, 2010, 3:26 p.m. CST

    I wouldn't be opposed

    by veritasses

    to a reboot. Bring back the actors/characters that were interesting, hire a new show runner and (good) writers and just start from scratch like none of it ever happened. And instead of being boxed into the real-time 24 hr gimmick where major international incidents are resolved from start to finish in a single day, get rid of it and just make it a good action thriller. If that can't be done then the show (really the writing) hasn't proven itself to be good enough to warrant another season. The movie sounds like it could work though.

  • March 10, 2010, 3:51 p.m. CST

    I don't agree that Herc ONLY copies material here...

    by chromedome

    ...instead of writing. So I call bullshit on Soze.<p>And, when he does paste some material here (like ratings information--really fun to follow that especially during the Great Leno Debacle of '09), I actually APPRECIATE it.<p>Makes AICN more of a one-stop-shopping location for me, so I don't have to go searching around for stuff (and it tends to be stuff I would otherwise miss entirely if not posted here).<p>So I gotta say that those who feel like they Must Call Out stuff they don't like here are really all about being complainers rather than finding a site that does meet their supposed needs--they love to bitch and moan, and will do so independent of the site, or the posts, or the content.<p>It is kinda humorous that folks pay nothing for this, but feel ENTITLED to the content they desire, and feel almost Holy when they bitch about it.<p>KINDA humorous, but mostly pathetic.

  • March 10, 2010, 3:58 p.m. CST

    How about you guys create and work...

    by Jaka

    ... your own site. Eh? What's that? You can't? Don't want to? Then how about sitting back and enjoying the ride. AICN is what it is and it's always been that. Deal with it.

  • March 10, 2010, 4:34 p.m. CST

    AICN is NOT what it used to be

    by Kaiser Soze

    and that just plain sucks

  • March 10, 2010, 4:34 p.m. CST

    24 should be writtent more like Prison Break

    by AshokForgiven

    Geez... God this season sucks. I don't get what the heck is with these writers. <br><br>Just look at Prison Break. The show wasn't a work of art or anything, but at least it had FOCUSED STORIES every year. S1=Fox River. S2=The Escape. S3=Sona. S4=Scylla.<br><br> 24 needs a friggin' FOCUSED PLOT. Instead, we get a schizophrenic season that can best be defined by: Nuclear rods. Russian terrorists. Political assassination. Muslim terrorists. Peace treaty summit. Robbery. Hillbillies.<br><br> ??????

  • March 10, 2010, 4:47 p.m. CST

    herc and kaiser

    by Philly_Phil_in_VA

    are more exciting than jack this year! keep it up :)

  • March 10, 2010, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Fox cleans up year after year with Idol

    by skimn

    which, c'mon, outside of Simon's salary, costs how much to produce?? They can't "afford" 24? Would love to see Fox's profit ratio...

  • March 10, 2010, 5:07 p.m. CST

    or, as Jack would say: NOOKKYAHLUR rods

    by chromedome

    they can't even clean up that (and they keep showing folks exposing the rods, so nookyahlur rods must not be nearly as dangerous as nuclear ones

  • March 10, 2010, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Pull The Plug!

    by JackBoner

    Jack Bauer: "Dammit!" Beep...Beep..Beep...

  • March 10, 2010, 5:15 p.m. CST

    It's not just Simon's salary for AI

    by SithMenace

    It's the other three judges, of which Randy probably gets paid the most, the crew, travel expenses and the ridiculously overpaid host Ryan Seacrest, who I think was recently signed to a three year, 45 million dollar contract. The salaries for just the five main people alone are probably well over a hundred mil per season. With all of those expenses, my guess would be that AI is one of the most expensive shows to produce. And it's one of the shittiest shows on television.

  • March 10, 2010, 5:18 p.m. CST

    The show needs to have more moments where

    by Jubs

    Jack is acting like an evil, scary motherfucker. Remember in season 1, when he was explaining to that badguy what would happen if he shoved a wet towel down his throat, let it linger in his stomach, and then slowly pull it out? We need more of that shit. Jack telling Marcos what he would do with his mother if he killed himself was a step in the right direction. More evil asshole Jack moments.

  • March 10, 2010, 5:24 p.m. CST

    I'm missing the "Seven Seasons" Rule

    by SisterSpooky

    Jaka, I think Star Trek made a right choice in ending most of it's Trek series with only Seven seasons was a very smart move. It kept the franchise alive and very profitable despite ending on Season 7 with any of it's ST: series. It didn't drag the series to it's knees and kept it with it's dignity intact and straight to the Movies. That I'll credit Berman for.

  • March 10, 2010, 5:24 p.m. CST

    This season of 24

    by jdb1972

    Brought to you by the people who nearly killed the Star Trek franchise. Who in their right mind runs Surnow off and replaces him with Braga?

  • March 10, 2010, 5:40 p.m. CST

    Cancel a TV show to get a movie?

    by Nem_Wan

    The cast of Star Trek: The Next Generation nods its heads with varying degrees of enthusiasm.

  • March 10, 2010, 5:47 p.m. CST

    As a previous Herc talkback complainer,

    by liesandpicturesofalsolies

    let me say it's a thin and terrible field out there, despite the giant mass of them. I tried several other sites and their tastes run so much worse or they are spoil-happy bitches. I left hitfix.com (which is essentially Drew McWeeny bathing in pond scum) because they post the shit out of spoilers. We may not agree with Herc, but he's actually doing a lot with very little.

  • March 10, 2010, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Won't be Missed

    by Jack Shepherd

    24 has sucked cock for at least three seasons now. Exact same story EVERY SINGLE WEEK. But Annie Wersching is a hot piece of ass. Wer-SCHWING!

  • March 10, 2010, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Here is exactly where 24 went south

    by Xiphos_2

    It can be summed up in three words Nurse Paul Flowers.

  • March 10, 2010, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Herc v.s. Kaiser is great stuff

    by VitaminZ

    The back and forth is more exciting than most TV. Are we finally going to get to the bottom of why Herc suddenly lost all interest in Leno v.s. Letterman? Hmmm...

  • March 10, 2010, 8:43 p.m. CST

    Dammit!

    by Onin Solstice

  • March 10, 2010, 10:46 p.m. CST

    Finally!

    by jimmy_009

    This was a great premise that was WASTED by using the same tired characters and situations year in and year out. Imagine if they actually had balls and changed up the cast and situation every year. THAT would be worth watching.

  • March 10, 2010, 11:08 p.m. CST

    Who the hell would sit in a theater

    by mackmm

    for 24 hours? But seriously isn't that the format that separates it from any other action show on TV? Plus how could they effectively play the weekly "Villain Tag" we have come to love.

  • March 11, 2010, 12:48 a.m. CST

    like a rerun

    by enemygateisdown

    I love the show, but other than the few character betrayals that I'm never sure who will commit, it is the same story every day. Seriously, wasn't Jack stabbed in the 5th hr or something? He seems pretty spry. Still love Rack Bower, even the fragile, defensless version this season!

  • March 11, 2010, 1:41 a.m. CST

    Where they went wrong...

    by goatherdingclownhunter

    After season five, interest was at its peak. That was when they should have taken the logical route of expanding the series' world: a rescue of Jack from China, the dismantling of CTU, a REAL emphasis on smaller, more character-driven crises than the constant empty promise of such. They could have used Bill, Chloe, Curtis, Agent Pierce, Charles Logan, etc., to much greater effect. Instead, they made the decent but unremarkable season six, and they made a good season seven...which they failed to follow up on. Season seven introduced cool characters: but they have all been killed (Larry) or reconstituted (Renee). Now, what's the point? Just end it. I love the idea of a prequel featuring a more idealistic Jack. Operation Nightfall would be nice to see.

  • March 11, 2010, 1:57 a.m. CST

    herc

    by JaredP

    when ru going to have a supernatural talkback? in all its five seasons u havent a supernatural post what gives? its one of the coolest shows on television

  • March 11, 2010, 2:14 a.m. CST

    No more CTU

    by smellmycheese

    Isn't that what they promised in the season 7 promo? "No more CTU". Isn't it? Or did I dream that?<br><br>"Dear 24 fans, yes, we know season 6 was shit but look: we're moving to Washington and getting rid of CTU!!"<br><br>Great!! Oh wait: there's a CTU in Washington too. Fuck.<br><br> CTU is the very thing holding this show back. I appreciate it's for budgetary reasons that they need a definite set they can return to rather than always being on location but CTU?? AGAIN?? How many boring fuck ups and spies can one government agency employ??<br><br>Why not have the subplots involve people who are related to or based at the locations targeted by the terrorists? Let us meet the potential victims, let us meet their families, let us GIVE A SHIT when they get killed. This is what worked so well in season 1: the subplots were directly linked to the main plot. It also worked pretty well at the quarantined hotel in season 3.<br><br>CTU is the problem. That and the lazy writing.

  • March 11, 2010, 2:17 a.m. CST

    JaredP

    by Hercules

    I do Supernatural posts from time to time. The quickest of searches reveals I put one up three weeks ago: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/44006

  • March 11, 2010, 3:59 a.m. CST

    How many times can he save the world already?

    by FlandersBum

    Great show that had it's day. Nothing wrong with riding off into the sunset in a dignified manner.

  • March 11, 2010, 6:08 a.m. CST

    YOU'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME, JACK!!!!

    by rosasaks

    Ungh-plop. Ungh-plop. Ungh-plop.

  • March 11, 2010, 6:11 a.m. CST

    Season Nine

    by rosasaks

    Kiefer Sutherland's real time efforts to kidnap Rupert Murdoch and blackmail him to keep 24 on air for one more day....

  • March 11, 2010, 6:15 a.m. CST

    No, you're out of time Rupert!

    by rosasaks

    "You can't axe me. I'll axe you." <p> "What if I axe you nicely?"

  • March 11, 2010, 6:17 a.m. CST

    Who do you work for? Who do you work for?

    by rosasaks

    I'm not axing you twice!

  • March 11, 2010, 6:30 a.m. CST

    I actually haven't watched the last episode

    by just pillow talk

    and I don't think I will. Calling it quits on this season.<p>Fuck, I feel like the Mets...

  • March 11, 2010, 7:42 a.m. CST

    What gets me about 24

    by RainesMaker

    is Jack has saved the planet how many times now, and in every situation, he is questioned. If this guy was real about after the 3rd season everyone would take his word as God.

  • March 11, 2010, 8:10 a.m. CST

    goatherdingclownhunter, I agree

    by I am_NOTREAL

    but you could argue they could've done something even a year earlier, when Jack was presumed dead and headed out into the sunset, rogue-style. But then season 5 started, and he was basically right back where he was--within an hour or two, right back in the CTU fold, wasting the very interesting premise that they'd set up in the last hour of season 4. They repeated the mistake at the start of season 6--he was out of Chinese custody and back to his old tricks in about half an episode, with only passing references to the residual damage of 18 months or whatever in Chinese prison for the rest of the day. Squandering not one but two really fascinating game-changing opportunities, in consecutive seasons no less, basically convinced me that, despite many scenes of torture / edgy-for-TV stuff, the writers & producers of this show really have no balls.

  • March 11, 2010, 8:15 a.m. CST

    By the way, have been meaning to ask...

    by I am_NOTREAL

    and I realize this is completely off topic, but does anyone out there watch this "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" business on Starz? I watched a few minutes from several episodes a few weeks back, at a buddy's house as an appetizer for UFC. It was the craziest thing I have ever seen on television. Over the top to an absolutely insane degree. Buckets--literally--of blood, mutilations, decapitations, limbs being severed, even a crazy gladiator wearing the face that he carved off some other dude. All of that plus copious breast shots. Just completely balls-out nuts.

  • March 11, 2010, 8:45 a.m. CST

    Herc, I just don't understand you!

    by Sonny_Williams

    What is the problem with running your column as a democracy? Why can't you consult the talkback daily and provide each and every user with exactly the content they demand? Why do you insist on running YOUR column YOUR way? Answer me, ANSWER ME DAMN YOU!!!<p> Yours truly,<p> (Various self-important cocks)

  • March 11, 2010, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Good Riddance.

    by Doc_Martigan

    I loved 24, and Keifer is the man. However the powers that be should have taken a cue from smarter shows, found a story to tell and finished the series once it was done. The problem with the one day per season format is they thought they could string that out into seperate crisis after seperate crisis. While the particulars may differ we have been watching the exact same shit for too long. Bad guy plans to X with Y while Politicians talk quietly and are betrayed and then in peril. Someone infiltrates CTU. Someone is tortured. Jack Yells. Someones personal life we don't care about drags on for episodes. I hope the switch to the big screen helps. Injects some urgency to a tell a fucking story.

  • March 11, 2010, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Sonny_Williams

    by Stabby

    Herc has every right to run his column the way he wants and we have every right to point out that it sucks! Which it does in comparison to other columns on this site which tells you how bad it really is.

  • March 11, 2010, 11:34 a.m. CST

    THE MOST DISGUSTINGLY INSULTING THING ABOUT 24 IS...

    by DoubleFantasy

    ...the fact that they dont even use a 24 hour clock for the digital interlude. 24... does not use a 24 hour clock!! Go have a look. 4pm should be 16:00 but nooooooooo its 04:00. And why? because it was thought to be less confusing for (ahem... american) viewers. It's decisions like that which makes this the most insulting and most pathetically written tv shows of all time. And I have faithfully watched it since the very first episode. But by god it takes some doing. Pathetic, pathetic writing over the past few seasons. Such a shame.

  • March 11, 2010, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Herc...

    by fox_cancelled_my_life

    Not sure why everyone seems to hate you so much. Like what you do, first thing I check every morning. Keep it up. BTW - couple weeks ago you were thinking Lost was slowly fading... what do you think after the last couple weeks? I know this is off topic, but I can't bother with digging through all the posts on that talkback at work. Later.

  • March 11, 2010, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Michael Madsen cast near the end of the season?

    by JonJonB

    Any news on whether this is true or not? Could have potential to up the game for the last season.

  • March 11, 2010, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Errrmmm, mebby not

    by Jaka

    Hmmm

  • March 12, 2010, 3:25 a.m. CST

    Hercules

    by DC Films

    Cheers Hercs. <p>Still loving Supernatural!<p> it's the dogs bollox - you can see the genre (in TV terms) develop in front of you as they push the story and characters.

  • March 12, 2010, 3:29 a.m. CST

    Herc's running gag is he wont do Supernatural TB because..

    by MrBlackJackBauer

    honestly no one knows, no one cares, but we all know its fucking stupid and childish. for some reason he gets off on not giving the readers what they want. <p> at this point its just moronic. its little attention whore things like this that make alot of us really fucking despise herc. he is just a dick for no reason at all.