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Harry is fascinated with Tim Burton's ALICE IN WONDERLAND!

You know... it's funny. When I thought this was an adaptation of Lewis Carroll's ALICE IN WONDERLAND... I was less interested, but once the trailers told this was a story following Alice as a young lady returning to a Wonderland ruled entirely by the Queen of Hearts... my interest began picking up. Then those early screenings in LA took place and my friends that were seeing the film began calling the film garbage. Just flat out garbage. Then I began to get scared. I was drunk in love with the visual scheme that Burton was teasing us with in trailers, posters and whatnot... and I'll admit it, I'm a Burton junkie. I love that he has fully embraced his auteur status complete with a gallery of co-conspirators. I like that. It is something retro, something held over from the classic studio days where directors often times developed a stable of performers that they leaned on. You begin to see the filmmaker experimenting and tweaking the types of performances that they got out of various folks. It also calls a lot of attention upon the new elements of the cast. All of a sudden you wonder... what will Anne Hathaway be in a Tim Burton controlled version of the Wonderland universe? My film geek brethren bemoan the action/adventure genre being applied to the lyrical satiric universe of ALICE IN WONDERLAND, I celebrate it. Now, don't get me wrong, Linda Wolverton's script is little more than an adaptation of the NARNIA films as applied to Alice and Wonderland... minus the Christian allegory. So there's no Jesus Lion, but there is a Cheshire Cat and Hooka huffing Catepillar and a wild eyed Johnn Depp as a Mad Hatter that dares to pick up weapons to fight for freedom. And I suppose I should be offended. But I'm not. No where near it. A funny thing happened when Tim Burton took this rather plain script - I will always long for the dialogue to be the match of the visuals, but Linda just seems to have little to no ability for inventing new lunacy to actually fit the new situations. So the Mad Hatter repeats a riddle from the original story, nothing new. BUT... I was heading to tell you the rather profound notion that hit me while watching this film. You see, it has been about a decade since Alice's last visit to Wonderland. In her absence, the Queen started exerting her beheading rule across Wonderland. There's a prophecy upon a parchment that promises the lunatics of Wonderland freedom in the form of a grown armored Alice slaying the Jabberwocky... thus freeing the citizenry to revel in their uniqueness. That even the MAD yearn to be free... well, I love that. I love that characters that ordinarily would have little to nothing to do with each other, that upon Fascist rule, they would line up behind the sanest mad person they could find and take arms as to not lose their head. And I believe that many of them do not even realize what the actions they are taking means. For proof, I offer up the Mad Hatter's Reaction upon the beheading of the Jabberwocky... He is about to slay someone of his own, when he sees Alice chop the enormous head of the Jabberwocky off... and through the madness, the Mad Hatter looks upon his own blade and drops it in disgust as if realizing for the very first time what a sword actually does... and he refuses it. That's beautiful to me. It's the payoff to the insanity of handing the Mad Hatter a sword. Besides, he does much better with Hatpins. For me, Disney's original animated ALICE IN WONDERLAND represents my favorite telling of this tale. This isn't that story, never set out to really be that story. In reality, this is THE CHRONICLES OF WONDERLAND - and as such - it is VASTLY superior to the Narnia films thus far... and I realize that's slight praise at best, but I thoroughly enjoyed this film. At the IMAX, I was shocked at just how much of the screen this release actually made use of. It is stunning on the IMAX - but I do feel the actual 3D is superior via RealD - mainly because their glasses have a superior quality to those warped scratched frames we must wear at the IMAX. Helena Bonham Carter is fantastic at playing warped crazy bitches and there are very few warped crazy bitches at the level of the Queen of Hearts. Sure, the big head on a little body was done brilliantly in MARS ATTACKS! but watching the Queen of Hearts looking down into a moat filled with the heads of those that annoyed her, threatened her and well... just were in the wrong place at the wrong time... You really get a feeling about her neurotic nature. She is threatened by anything and everything. If you stroke her ego a bit, you'll be in her good graces... but if you don't play up to her, your head will help fill the moat of muck. The majority of everyone that I talked to after both screenings just really really liked it at a level they weren't prepared for. With the graphics and the control of 3D that is in the hands of filmmakers like Burton and Cameron - there's a very real sensation of TOURING A UNIVERSE. Outside of Linda's inadequate script, that Burton's visual inventiveness rescues, this is a trip to WONDERLAND unlike any other we've seen... And I don't know about you, but I've been to WONDERLAND so many times, via so many wildly different forms. I've seen the 70's Musical Porn version, which is pretty goddamn good, especially the music and the lead. The scariest will always be that one from 1933, mainly due to the nightmarish quality it has. I'm quite fond of the Hallmark version with Martin Short. But there is something about pulling the look of Wonderland... sending it into a dire dreary state and mounting up a battle between the denizens that hits all the right goofy FAN FIC geekery that I was wanting from this version. That they took ALICE IN WONDERLAND, made a sequel that was all about living your dreams, bucking conformity and dancing like a Lucas character... well... I loved it. This is far more successful than his work at the Chocolate Factory or his jaunt with the Apes. DEFINITELY see at the IMAX 3D. It is incredible in that format. Is it too scary for small kids? Absolutely not. My 9 year old nephew loved it. But he's a weirdo, whose favorite film of 2010 is THE CRAZIES... But several smaller kids in the sub-Kindergarten range came up to me after the screening to thank me because they loved the movie. So it works. The film works as an action adventure within the realm of Wonderland. It works as a travelogue of Wonderland and I found it works very well as an adventure story and elements that I was very iffy on with that first screening, I found myself loving upon second viewing. Like what? Like Crispin Glover. I hated him on the first screening. But the second time, I stopped looking at the oddness of his unreal body - and concentrated on his performance, which just tickled me non-stop. That first screening I was really expecting to hate it. I came out really liking it in a stunned kind of way. On second viewing, I went in thinking that I had to be crazy, because I read Drew's thrashing of the film - and I went in armed with his criticism - and ultimately found it discarded like unpopped popcorn kernals upon the theater floor. The last thing you should ever be upon an escarpment to Wonderland is be SERIOUS. Wonderland is a trippy place and once you see this, I really did find myself judging the Queen as the ruiner of Wonderland, and I wanted the White Queen back in charge. And that reminds me... How is Anne Hathaway in a Tim Burton film? Awesome. You might ask yourself why she should lead Wonderland, as she's so neurotically self-involved in a world of her own... how could she govern? Well, that's kind of the point. The Queen of Hearts is neurotically self-involved, but in a way that takes your ability to be self-involved away. The White Queen is dancing about like a fairy godmother whose basic insanity is to be sweet, to be a Disney Royal. Stuck in a series of about 7 different gestures and poses which denote kindness, sweetness and loveliness... I was enraptured. It is foolish and odd - but it works for the universe. And with her kindly rule, I'm betting that if Alice were to return to Wonderland in her 30s - this world will be a bit back to its absurdly frighteningly weird ways. This is truly a case of one man's garbage being another man's treasure. I can't even conceive of this being called garbage. The artistry alone elevates it, but the beauty of the mad rising to a state of lucidity for the sake of freedom... well, I love it. And a whole hell of lot of others seem to as well. Nothing ever looks entirely real, but then nothing should. It is all a bit warped, but really... what were you expecting from Tim Burton's ALICE IN WONDERLAND? This is exactly what I had hoped.

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  • March 5, 2010, 12:31 a.m. CST

    your mom

    by moon_cricket

  • March 5, 2010, 12:31 a.m. CST

    i'm first

    by moon_cricket

    in your mom

  • March 5, 2010, 12:31 a.m. CST

    punch the fish

    by deadphishiy2

    again again.

  • March 5, 2010, 12:34 a.m. CST


    by moon_cricket

    by the 3-d onion rings that were flying in your mouth!

  • March 5, 2010, 12:35 a.m. CST

    Still think

    by Life Proof

    this movie looks stupid.

  • March 5, 2010, 12:36 a.m. CST

    Ugh boring review. utterly predictable stuff.

    by Sepulchrave

    "My film geek brethren bemoan the action/adventure genre being applied to the lyrical satiric universe of ALICE IN WONDERLAND, I celebrate it." The problem is that you're NOT a geek anymore harry, you're a completely mainstream, corporately colonised lump of studio material scripted to apply his faux-geek spin to whatever lump of multimilliondollar pabulum has just been excreted.

  • March 5, 2010, 12:39 a.m. CST

    Real news: Green Lantern to be released in 3D!

    by Mr Incredible

  • March 5, 2010, 12:40 a.m. CST

    Is there a crooked tree in it?

    by sonnyfern

    So is this going to be a case of Burton fans loving this...and people who don't worship Burton not liking it? Burton is always really hit or miss with me. I love Batman Returns and Beatlejuice, I can't fucking stand Apes, Chocolate Factory and goddamn Corpse Bride. I kinda dug Big Fish I guess. But the most important question I have is. IS THERE A CROOKED TREE IN IT? That fucking tree is in more Burton movies than Depp.

  • March 5, 2010, 12:43 a.m. CST

    I agree with Steven D. Greydanus' review...

    by Admonisher -- He pretty much makes all the points I'd want to make.

  • March 5, 2010, 12:43 a.m. CST

    More real news: Gilligan's Island: The Movie

    by Mr Incredible First casting choice: Christina Hendricks as Ginger. So let it be written, so let it be done.

  • March 5, 2010, 12:45 a.m. CST

    Yikes, big guy

    by YackBacker

    I know you're sincere in this review, but I just cannot buy anything you're selling. We just read Tim Burton's work very differently, I guess.

  • March 5, 2010, 12:46 a.m. CST

    "Yes, the Jabberwocky, reader..."

    by Admonisher

    "You say the beastie is called the Jabberwock, not the Jabberwocky? Ah, you have read the poem. Have the filmmakers? Who can tell?"

  • March 5, 2010, 12:47 a.m. CST

    "escarpment to Wonderland"

    by YackBacker

    Sounds like the magical journey of a fish.

  • March 5, 2010, 12:54 a.m. CST

    So, what did you think of Cop Out Harry?

    by FilmGuy125

    Or have you "copped out" providing a review???

  • March 5, 2010, 1:20 a.m. CST

    Harry! Olivia Munns is the Scarlet Witch in Iron Man 2!!

    by Max923394


  • March 5, 2010, 1:20 a.m. CST


    by Jaka

    I too am an admitted Burton junkie, so I very much hope my reaction to the film is similar to yours. Unfortunately Big Guy, yours is the only review I've read that even comes close to being this positive. Now, I don't necessarily put much credence into movie reviews as I think each personal reaction to a piece of art is as valid as the next. But when the vast majority of them are saying the exact same thing, well, ya know, it makes this one seem just a bit unbelievable. Regardless, I'll be taking my niece and nephew to an Imax 3-D showing on Saturday. That's something that Avatar changed for me forever. Imax 3-D is the shit!

  • March 5, 2010, 1:25 a.m. CST

    Real News

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

    Alien Prequel to Be Shot in 3-D

  • March 5, 2010, 1:29 a.m. CST


    by HaterofCrap

    ....are not in this movie.

  • March 5, 2010, 1:31 a.m. CST

    Hey Harry, I Heard Depp Kinda Sucks In It...


    In fact I wouldnt be surprised. He hasnt done anything of note since the first pirates.

  • March 5, 2010, 2:04 a.m. CST

    Harry RECOMMENDED Planet of the Apes and Charlie & the Chocolate

    by Stifler's Mom

    Here you are assuring us that ALICE IN WONDERLAND is better than POTA and CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY, but back in 01 and 05, you were endorsing those abortions, too. I love the site, but ironically, the founder has become his least reliable critic. You're far too easily swayed by access and special screenings and set visits to be credible. From the very first paragraph of this review, it's obvious that you know it's a bad movie, but you're trying to convince yourself (and us) to like it anyway.

  • March 5, 2010, 2:15 a.m. CST

    Good Job Harry

    by SPIDERX

    This review is better then the actual movie.

  • March 5, 2010, 2:17 a.m. CST

    Charlie & the Chocolate was GOOD!!

    by Max923394

  • March 5, 2010, 2:25 a.m. CST

    Tim Burton: Artiste!

    by BrashHulk

    He has become a twisted parody of an innovative, insightful creator. His work now is overstimulated, overworked, overwrought, and overdone. His ego and pretentiousness have solidified his vision into a rigid frame that he no longer even attempts to break out of or even question. It doesn't surprise me at all that this movie is getting scathing reviews, yet I'm sure that Burton will continue to get work in Hollywood - even though the critical and box office record for his last 10 movies is just dismal.

  • March 5, 2010, 3:07 a.m. CST


    by LawrenceOfArcadia

    He's not bad, necessarily, he's just attained an undeserved artistic celebrity on the back of a career of relative mediocrity.

  • March 5, 2010, 3:32 a.m. CST

    NARNIA does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    "THE CHRONICLE OF NARNIA: THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE WARDROBE is a magical film that will take you away, if you allow it… Watching the film… Well, when Lucy Pevensie smiles as she steps out into the snowy world of Narnia and found that Lamp Post and found Mr Tumnus, I found myself turning into a kid. Little Georgie Henley was my gateway character. I saw the splendor and magic she saw. I could imagine going off with Mr Tumnus for Tea and biscuits. And once in Tumnus’ wonderful home, and as he brought out his lute – and those stunningly beautiful flames danced and galloped and came to life in a dreamy real way… I was being sucked in."<p> Hmm Harry, I thought I remembered you enjoying NARNIA and a speedy search on the archives reveals what you had to say about it upon release.

  • March 5, 2010, 3:38 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    "In reality, this is THE CHRONICLES OF WONDERLAND - and as such - it is VASTLY superior to the Narnia films thus far... and I realize that's slight praise at best, but I thoroughly enjoyed this film."<p> this.

  • March 5, 2010, 3:41 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    You got me feeling like Ewan McGregor in ATTACK OF THE CLONES... going through the archives... now where's that CGI fatguy in the diner - I fancy a latte.

  • March 5, 2010, 3:57 a.m. CST

    Pretty good.

    by imagin78

    Just got back from the the preview screening in NYC. Great job by The Irish Rican and AICN setting it up. I have to agree with Harry. I had a great time. <p> I am a Tim Burton fan, though even I can admit that his version of Planet of the Apes is quite poor. However, this is, overall, a quality film. The effects work is top notch. Danny Elfman created a trademark score that makes up for his poor work on The Wolfman. The acting was by and large great. Helena Bonham Carter makes a properly arrogant and petty Red Queen. Anne Hathaway is funny channeling Amy Adams role from Enchanted as the White Queen. Mia Wasikowska grounds the movie with a believable lead performance that counters the craziness around her. We've seen Depp act zany before, so his version of The Hatter is a tad redundant. Nevertheless, it doesn't distract. <p> The script is a bit rudimentary and does crib from other fantasy works, but I didn't find it a deal breaker. Burton also avoids most of his overt flourishes and, barring the silly - but thankfully short - dance number and a poor line here and there, allows his great visual sensibility to dominate. <p> I should also note that I was very impressed with both the 3-D and the IMAX presentation. It was disappointing that both A Christmas Carol and Avatar didn't use the full scope of the IMAX screen. So consider me pleasantly surprised when Alice used it all. That combined with a terrific, if not Avatar level, 3D conversion, really created a great sense of immersion. Overall, I really enjoyed Burton's latest. <p> On another note, I was amused at all of the goths waiting in line to see the midnight showing dressed up as Alice or the Mad Hatter. Glad I didn't have to see it with them. Also, the Tron trailer really looked tremendous.

  • March 5, 2010, 3:58 a.m. CST


    by livingwater


  • March 5, 2010, 4 a.m. CST

    Thanks for not banning me, Harry!

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    I couldnt sign in for like an eternity. I thought I was outta here. Whew!

  • March 5, 2010, 4:05 a.m. CST

    Watched this last night

    by Ecto-1

    and thought it was really boring. Felt like Tim Burton was just running on auto-pilot. There was nothing even remotely engaging about this film. I couldn't even be bothered to watch the end. Up there with Planet of the Apes as one of Burton's worst films.

  • March 5, 2010, 4:09 a.m. CST

    This site is finished

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Late news, no heart anymore, Harry's ridiculous 'reviews'. Time to shitcan the site and get back to tweeting and Farmville Harry.

  • March 5, 2010, 4:20 a.m. CST

    Depp Vs. Crispin..Off With His Head!

    by tensticks

    I simply cannot put into words how incredibly personally satisfying I found it to watch Johnny Depp KICK CRISPIN GLOVER'S ASS. Astounding.

  • March 5, 2010, 4:39 a.m. CST

    When is Beetlejuice 2 coming out?

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    Heck, if Toy Story 3 can make it out, Beetlejuice is long overdue.

  • March 5, 2010, 4:41 a.m. CST

    Everybody hates this, figures Harry would love it

    by Bruce of all Trades


  • March 5, 2010, 6:13 a.m. CST

    This movie would have worked 20 years ago

    by fireclown

    .. but the whole evil alice thing has been pretty played out by now in games, art, and God knows what else. I hate to agree with Devin Farci on ANYTHING, but his notion that Burton is no longer a director but a content producer for Hot Topic is looking more and more dead on. <p> and honestly. What does it take fo Harry to say something bad about a movie?

  • March 5, 2010, 6:36 a.m. CST

    wow, no tightwads complaining...

    by Bouncy X

    that a 9yr old's favorite movie of the year is The Crazies? color me shocked because there's usually always a few who are stunned by those sorta comments. my favorite movie when i was 9 was Nightmare 3 so nice to see kids today like the killing too. :P

  • March 5, 2010, 6:36 a.m. CST

    Didn't love it but thought it was good...

    by steele8280

    ... felt like it stalled at a few points, but the best 'Alice' telling (movie wise) for my money. On another note, how anyone can let a 9 year-old see The Crazies is beyond me. Bordering on child abuse. Seriously.

  • March 5, 2010, 6:46 a.m. CST


    by djdeathstar

    Maybe Harry got paid cash to promote this like the ghost writer if you see tons of stuff on here about alice you know im right

  • March 5, 2010, 7:07 a.m. CST

    Harrys been compromised for a LONG TIME.

    by TheManWhoCan

    Enjoy your blood money fatso. (well maybe thats a bit dramatic) enjoy your free merchandise fatso!

  • March 5, 2010, 7:15 a.m. CST

    Ok I guess I am a tightwad

    by rogueleader66

    Because I think it is horrible that a 9 year old kid saw The Crazies. Call me silly, call me...oh I dunno...a responsible fucking parent. I think no kid has any reason to see movies like that, not at 9 fucking years old. Im not saying kids have to wait til they are 17 to see R rated films, not at all. but 9 years old and seeing a movie about people flipping out and committing grisly murders? Wrong, in every sense of the word.<P>Anyways back on topic. I am not really at all interested in another Burton remake abortion. So its Narnia in Wonderland? Wow that's so original. They had a chance here to do something really cool, but they just patterned themselves off other movies and set it in Wonderland. Yea that's great. I'll see it on video and give it a chance, but I have a feeling that if I do go see it in the theater, it will be only to see the Tron Legacy trailer, as it really has not distinguished itself as anything special in my eyes.

  • March 5, 2010, 7:35 a.m. CST

    So - it has a crap script but looks good...

    by Charlie & Tex

    ...that's going to make us rush out and watch it. We'll side with Drew McWeeny's review, which is in keeping with many others. If you were playing tennis, Harry, your backhand would now be almost perfect...

  • March 5, 2010, 7:35 a.m. CST

    Once again...

    by topfivevideo

    Harry provides a "review" in which he just can't shut his f'n yapper about what happens in the movie and just... ummm... I dunno... review the movie. I think the issue is that Harry just doesn't have the vocabulary and writing skills to actually relate his feelings about a movie without citing examples. TAKE A FUCKING ANNEX COURSE HARRY!!!

  • March 5, 2010, 7:40 a.m. CST

    what else is new

    by JBouganim1

  • March 5, 2010, 7:41 a.m. CST


    by topfivevideo

    On another point; you want us to believe that if the movie sucks it's because of the screenwriter and not Burton's? At what point did you sell yourself out Harry? I know enough about these things to know that before Burton turns on a fucking camera he has approved the script. Often cases when he comes on to a film he will bring on a screenwriter of his own. I find it hard to believe that Tim didn't have some say in the story. That being said, if this movie sucks it's because of Tim. It's his fault because on his films he has the final say, he's an egotistical son-of-a-bitch and he's always in control of his movies. As always, fuck you Harry :)

  • March 5, 2010, 7:43 a.m. CST

    You lost we with the jabberwocky.

    by KonkBob

  • March 5, 2010, 7:45 a.m. CST

    Burton hasn't made a good film in a decade...

    by Lampers

    ...and this looks to be no exception. I haven't liked anything he's done since Sleepy Hollow. That was awesome. I think the real Tim Burton died the day that was released. Since then he's being playing the studio game that he did such a good job of subverting in the start. I mean, Corpse Bride is like 1% as good as NBX. The fact that Harry likes this makes me cringe. Everyone else says it's frustrating and uneven and a valiant failure. Not Harry, it's the BEST FILM EVER MADE. Again. For the 10,000th time this month (or at least in recent memory). I know Harry isn't well, and I'm sorry about that. But whatever it is that he has is clearly affecting his judgement, and rather than thinking, like I used to; "Harry liked it, it must be worth a look" I now think, "Harry like it, that means exactly nothing, it could be God's gift to cinema, it could be a massive pile of dog turd". There is absolutely no way of telling anymore. Visionary directors find new stories or new ways of telling old stories. I'm bored of seeing yet another disguised-Burton playing out yet another allegory of how "kooky" he is and how "no-one understands him, he's a unique and beautiful flower in a cold and brutal world". Well he's not unique. In fact he's ubiquitous. He IS the establishment now. I look out of my window and I see a dozen Burton clones and Burton wannabees and Jack Skellington hoodies and Edward Scissorhands duffel bags. It is NORMAL now. Not unique. And not, for 10 years for me anyway, approaching beautiful. Tim, give Henry Selick all your money and retire. And have a hair cut. Tosser.

  • March 5, 2010, 7:46 a.m. CST

    Seems every big budget movie . . .

    by oaser

    gets a great review from this guy. I know there's Tim Burton love there because people here aren't shit-canning Tim Burton. They're shit-canning this movie. Whenever there's a big budget movie coming out, I skip Harry's review. This guy loved Godzilla and praised the script from The Happening. Someone said Harry's been compromised. I totally agree.

  • March 5, 2010, 7:48 a.m. CST

    Umm Harry


    Why is a 9 year old watching The Crazies? You don't think that's a bit extreme? Really? REALLY?

  • March 5, 2010, 7:50 a.m. CST


    by topfivevideo

    Harry has been compromised for years, you want a decent review of this flick, go read Capone's.

  • March 5, 2010, 7:52 a.m. CST


    by oaser

    I did. I read that first, then came over to see what Harry had written. It's interesting to see such a divergence between two people who saw the same movie, but one person actually reviewed the movie, not just the visuals.

  • March 5, 2010, 7:55 a.m. CST

    @ oaser

    by topfivevideo

    I'm not even sure it's just about the visuals but more about the fact that Harry has been bought and paid for so many times that you can't trust a fuckin' thing out of his mouth. That and he always has to have some sort of personal connection to the film or know someone attached to the project. Shameless.

  • March 5, 2010, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Amen, Brother.

    by oaser

  • March 5, 2010, 8:01 a.m. CST

    Burton is a hack.

    by Mr Soze

    Ed Wood was his crowning achievment, that's because Depp was in top form. (Planet of the Apes, Sleepy Hollow, Willy Wonka, and the really bad Mars Attacks were just plain lousy) Depp needs to severe all ties with Burton. And studio's please quit giving Burton money to make this Garbage.

  • March 5, 2010, 8:15 a.m. CST

    Harry also loved:

    by oaser

    Episode II: Attack of the Clones, The Village, The Sum of All Fears, and POTC: Dead Man's Chest.

  • March 5, 2010, 8:17 a.m. CST

    No love for Sweeny Todd??

    by Human_Bean_Juice_

    Really love that movie, but think Burton should ditch Depp and make up with his other muse - Michael Keaton!!

  • March 5, 2010, 8:19 a.m. CST

    And Star Wars Episode I

    by oaser

  • March 5, 2010, 8:40 a.m. CST

    9 Year Old Saw The Crazies?

    by Crow3711

    What the fuck man?

  • March 5, 2010, 8:43 a.m. CST

    B4, I read the review, did Tim Burton give AICN a interview.?

    by Ganymede3001

    Ofcourse he did, that's why this review is tainted. Harry always gives good reviews if someone on the production team gives him an pre-release interview. Sorry Harry, not falling for your bullshit anymore.

  • March 5, 2010, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Edward Scissorhands and Ed Wood.

    by hank henshaw

    Those are the 2 Burton movies I like. I can tolerate Beetlejuice. The rest of his movies are like torture to me.

  • March 5, 2010, 8:57 a.m. CST


    by awardgiver

    more spoilers than necessary Harry. I stopped reading midway.

  • March 5, 2010, 8:58 a.m. CST

    I dragged my girlfriend to the Crazies..

    by Human_Bean_Juice_

    She's 34 and a little sensitive. I thought it was pretty harmless stuff, but she wouldn't talk to me for the rest of the night.

  • March 5, 2010, 8:59 a.m. CST

    9 year old

    by djdeathstar

    Harry is the kind of guy who thinks its cool to show a movie like the crazies to a 9 year old but how cool is it if the kid wakes up in the middle of the night screaming people are coming to get him and cant get to sleep + what about the theatre owners responsibility allowing a kid of 9 into see a movie like that of course im responsible so thats not cool i dont give a shit i dont need labels put on me

  • March 5, 2010, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Finally, Harry Reviews Another Film


    I gotta admit, I miss Harry's reviews. He doesn't do nearly enough of them these days. More reviews! And what about reviewing Cop Out?

  • March 5, 2010, 9:06 a.m. CST


    by djdeathstar

    Harry how come you havent lost weight yet you got the band fitted which is of course the lazy way to lose weight heaven forbid you had to actually move your carcass around to lose weight you are to blame for all your health issues enjoy the next 7 or 8 years of life you have left

  • March 5, 2010, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Wait a second, Harry - you LIKED the Narnia films!

    by Keeper Of Chimps

    Why do you bow to the popular opinion and trash them now? You, as I did, really liked the first two Narnia films because they were damn good. Just because the same cynical world that embraces crap like Avatar dismiss it doesn't take away from the fact that the two films were both entertaining and captivating.

  • March 5, 2010, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Harry is flat out telling us it sucks...

    by castor778

    Sorry Harry, but you need to get away from your opening "disclaimer" paragraphs. Too often are you opening up your reviews with how people you know hate this film or how you were going in into the theatre preparing yourself for what should turn out to be a disaster. Then of course you turn out to either stand by it as a guilty pleasure or love it. The problem is, any time you write up one of these, it's pretty clear that you know you're recommending us shit. You're long lost your fanboy critic motto - it's OK to tell us a film sucks every once and awhile, it will at least give you a little more credit. I mean, we're getting our cool news at other websites long after you report them, not one of your guys is showing the least bit of enthusiasm for things you should be downright giddy for (*cough cough* A Game Of Thrones *cough cough*), and the only reviewer I typically trust now is Capone... the least you could do is be honest with your reviews for once.

  • March 5, 2010, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Ummmm...Spoiler Alert?

    by OpticNerve

    I'm just sayin'...

  • March 5, 2010, 9:26 a.m. CST


    by castor778

    *You've* long lost your fanboy critic motto. We're getting our cool news at other websites long *before* you report them.

  • March 5, 2010, 9:38 a.m. CST

    All big directors age badly

    by umbral_shadow_

    Spielberg, Scott, Cameron, Burton...when they hit around 50 the quality of their output nosedives. It's like they've realized that they can get away with using a lot of CG, and they get lazy in every other department. That's why I'm hoping Nolan (who is 40 this year) cranks out as many great films as possible before the inevitable decline hits him too.

  • March 5, 2010, 9:45 a.m. CST

    Harry is so lazy...

    by Lampers

    ...he's not even flagging SPOILER HEAVY reviews as spoilers. How hard could it be. You owe it to your readers to let them know what kind of S-bombs you're going to be deploying. You already ruined Zombieland for me you fuck. Slightly off topic, your mate dying is sad and all but it is NOT news. A film breaking down in mid-projection is NOT NOT news. And the frankly dreadful revelation that you had a BJ from someone you'd never met at a cinema is NOT NOT NOT a fucking DVD review. Save that shit for a blog, which this is not. Dumbass.

  • March 5, 2010, 10:45 a.m. CST

    What's Really A Spoiler Tho?

    by Crow3711

    I find it hard to believe anyone on this site hasn't seen enough movies in their lives to know, just KNOW, that Alice, in the shining armor we've seen in every trailer, inevitably kills the Jabberwocky. I mean, cmon. Who honestly thought she was going to fail or something? It's not a spoiler if its just blatantly obvious storytelling.

  • March 5, 2010, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Anne Hathaway

    by Series7

    Is starting to look like a Wallace and Grommit human these days with dem teeth.

  • March 5, 2010, 10:48 a.m. CST

    And The Crazies...

    by Crow3711

    Yes, it was fairly harmless, good natured fun-fare....for us. I'm not a crazy parent or anything, I don't care what kids see most of the time...especially once your 12 or 13, I think you can handle just about anything except the most fucked up horror out there or over sexualized garbage...but NO 9 year old needs to see the part where olyphant gets his hand stabbed into the floor and the event that occurs immediately after that (i wont ruin it cause its the best part of the movie probably). But really...nine year olds don't need to see that.

  • March 5, 2010, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Harry on Charlie & The Chocolate Factory

    by epitone

    "Burton hasn't been this good in a very long time -- if ever."

  • March 5, 2010, 11:05 a.m. CST


    by LarryTate

    hahahaha... nice repost! Love it. Yeah, my girlfriend wants to see this but I can't stomach another Charlie and the Choc Factory spewing out more bullshit. Love the style.. but let's have some substance pls. <p> Maybe Burton should just stict to doing set designs and let some else direct the story!</p>

  • March 5, 2010, 11:08 a.m. CST

    So avatar is great because of the story

    by Series7

    And Alice in Wonderland is great for the visuals.

  • March 5, 2010, 11:14 a.m. CST

    I thought Tim was dead

    by Series7

    But he was smart enough to pull another Nightmare Before Christmas with 9. Great movie. One that will get more popular as time goes on. I didn't see it in theaters, but I can see where it may have not been as well liked there (for one its only and hour and 10 minutesish). So at least he can still bring together good talent for shit he really isn't involved in.

  • March 5, 2010, 11:20 a.m. CST

    To me this feels like

    by Series7

    Scorsese doing Shutter Island. Sure both may end up being meh ok movies, nothing special. So why the fuck did these directors pick these fucking useless nothing special scripts? Its not like Burton can't do anything he wants, same with Scorsese. So why would they pick these lame book adaptations that offer nothing new nor interesting? <P> OHHH yeah to make shit tons of money because both moives are easy as shit sells to the public.

  • March 5, 2010, 11:23 a.m. CST

    derivative Burton nonsense

    by IAmLegolas

    stop sucking his dick, does everyone shop at Hot Topic here or something?

  • March 5, 2010, 11:27 a.m. CST

    All artists age badly

    by IAmLegolas

    After a certain point you either have nothing left to say or repeat yourself. It's optimal to die young, at your peak, and leave a good looking corpse.

  • March 5, 2010, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Harry does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Epitone, yep. I think Harry needs to go through the aicn archives and delete the lot cos right now he's getting pwned by his own words.<p> Seems right now every single Harry-related thread is filled with nothing but complaints and criticisms of him. I kinda feel sorry for the guy but I also think when you're running a business operation you have to 'listen' to feedback and act on it in a positive way.<p> As others have said, this site does feel like it's in decline and the guy at the top just has his head in the sand.<p> WAKE UP AND FIGHT HEADGEEK!

  • March 5, 2010, 11:36 a.m. CST

    NPR's Kenneth Turan gave it a thumbs-down

    by Damned if I can login

    I was curious to see if Harry had anything to say about that, since he gave KT the big F-You in one of his write-ups some months back.<p>I would've said "one of his reviews", but that doesn't exactly apply these days.

  • March 5, 2010, 11:48 a.m. CST


    by Damned if I can login

    Not all big directors age badly. John Ford for example. After 50 he directed:<p>My Darling Clementine (age 52)<p>Fort Apache (54)<p>She Wore a Yellow Ribbon (55)<p>Rio Grande (56)<p>The Quiet Man (58)<p>Mister Roberts (61)<p>The Searchers (62)<p>and most notably...<p> <p>The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (68)

  • March 5, 2010, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Harry, you are like the "nice lady" judges on American Idol

    by TRON

    You want to criticize it, but because of Tim Burton's past "performances" you want to keep hope that he will rebound from this on his next project. It's like you're obligated not to strip down the film. I have always loved Mel Brooks films, I love the sense of humor that he has,,,, but I can admit that the best films that he ever directed had other writers involved. Mel Brooks has been up there as a comedy god to many. But I see him years later as formulated organizer of comedy films,,,, not a continuous comedy creator. Spontaneous, definitely YES!!!! He has no consistency to create and write. He has the creative mind to compound on others writing materials. I know you consider Tim Burton a "movie God Director" The truth is ,,, TIM BURTON is an incredible visionary,,,,in fact one of the best ever.....but as a writer, he may have lost his magic touch that he had years ago. I would make comparisons to Lucas and M Knight as other gifted Writer / Directors that have lost touch with their writing skills. Harry,,, you have connections with a multitude of celebrities in the industry,,,, sooner or later you might have to hurt someones feelings by stating the obvious truth. If they don't talk to you again or give you an early scoop or production photo,,,oh well that's life.

  • March 5, 2010, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Mad Hatter In Underland

    by IAmLegolas

    should be the title of this movie

  • March 5, 2010, 11:56 a.m. CST

    I appreciate the review even though I don't agree with it.

    by The Reluctant Austinite

    It's a nice review and it reminds me of what I wrote about "The Wolfman," a beloved childhood icon modernized in a film that basically fails for the general audience, but makes me happy even with all its warts and missteps. All and all, however, this review feels desperately like a "get out of jail free card" for the sake of the subject matter and director. I think Harry will like this film less and less over the years when it's not shiny and new. This NEVER seemed like a good idea to me. It's just too obvious for Burton, and I appreciate when he tackles material not obviously Burton-esque to begin with. I absolutely HATED "Charile and the Chocolate Factory" and this film feels like a follow up to that film in every way. I've been a great Burton fan for many years, stanchly defending films others disliked like "Sleepy Hollow", but recently his heart doesn't seem to be in the projects he chooses. This was abundantly clear in "Planet of the Apes," but also reared it head it the unforgivably boring "Corpse Bride", which seemed like nothing but a desperate attempt to recapture the magic of "Nightmare Before Christmas," but this time actually be the director. I'm still on Burton's side, but this film ultimately disappointed me even more than I thought it would, and I'm sad to say that.

  • March 5, 2010, 11:58 a.m. CST

    From here on out its 2D screenings only for me.

    by knowthyself

    No more paying an extra 4 bucks for 3D. In NYC a movie ticket is 12.50. A ticket to a 3D movie is 15 dollars. An IMAX ticket is 18 dollars. Enough is enough. I will seek out the 2D screening and put a stop to this madness. Avatar really was the last movie I ever want to see in 3D.

  • March 5, 2010, 12:03 p.m. CST


    by D.Vader

    Telling us the fucking fate of The Jabberwocky, you fucking douchebag! Goddamnit Harry, that's a bush-league mistake here! What is this, amateur hour??? Where's the damn SPOILER ALERT!!! <p> God you really pissed me off with this one.

  • March 5, 2010, 12:04 p.m. CST

    I guess Sweeney todd is the exception not the rule.

    by knowthyself

    Such a shame that was one of my favorite movies of that year. I guess Burton is back to his "planet of the apes/willy wonka" crap.

  • March 5, 2010, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Burton ain't rebounding from nuttin'...

    by IAmLegolas

    with DARK SHADOWS and SLEEPING BEAUTY (remake) waiting in the wings. It's all about the remakes and movies that make Disney and Hot Topic money in the merchandise. How'd he become George Lucas all of a sudden?

  • March 5, 2010, 12:09 p.m. CST

    I didn't even know the Jabberwocky was a villain

    by D.Vader

    Its a GODDAMN SPOILER plain and true.

  • March 5, 2010, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Seriously, that spoiler is close to the last straw

    by D.Vader

    AICN has been annoying me a lot of late, with its willful lack and ignorance of cool news and with Harry's apathetic attitude towards his site and more importantly, his readers and fans. <p> And this lazy absence of a spoiler alert has just about done me in. I've been a fan of this site since I was 14, for close to 14 years, and I've never been so disappointed and pissed off with Harry and AICN as I am at this point.

  • March 5, 2010, 12:23 p.m. CST

    I'm done.

    by D.Vader

    Anger gone. Probably just a mistake. But its an amateur mistake. He should take more pride in his writing and have more respect for his fans to double-check and see if he put any spoilers in his spoiler-free review. Time to walk away and make a sandwich.

  • March 5, 2010, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Oh Man this sounds tooooooly.

    by cookylamoo

    The Mad Hatter realizes that violence is wrong. I'm losing my lunch now.

  • March 5, 2010, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Harry, you fucktard

    by SSquirrel

    At least put *SPOILER* before you ruin large chunks of film.

  • March 5, 2010, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Even more dissapointing then that...

    by Tangent

    is that it seems Harry has taken to spending more time reviewing the concept of a film then the execution. A concept does not a good film make. Hell, the concept for Shutter Island is so amateur and overdone but the execution makes it great. As creative as the concept for this film was, it failed in its execution. You didnt spend enough time with any of the characters to actually care about them, we werent shown characters being rounded up and executed so its hard to care about the conflict, and outside of her unwillingness to hurt a living thing (though calling someone in to slaughter seems to be OK) we have seen very little reason why the White Queen is a decent alternative. Hell, they dont even bother making sense of the Hatter's psychosis. Hes half mad, but which half is it? The high lisping half or the deep gravely warrior half? Not to mention the dress the Red Queen made for Alice. "Can we have her wear something crazy and dark and nonsensical for a third of the movie so Avril Lavigne has something to wear in the music video?" The whole thing is one big Hot Topic commercial and everyone involved should be ashamed and that includes Harry who clearly has more investment in this film then he should because anyone who claims to be a fan of film simply can not enjoy this film.

  • March 5, 2010, 12:49 p.m. CST


    by steele8280

    I have to agree with the spoilers, there is no box around the review, at least not last I checked, besides .SPOILERS!!!! Jabberwocky fate (not that, but how) and how this relates to the Alice stories in terms of plot are all major spoilers END SPOILERS!!! I for one thought the revelation of what Alice's role in the movie was about two thirds in was one of the things that made me sit up and take notice. A box is in order.

  • March 5, 2010, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Lack of Spoiler Alert shows Harry's True Agenda

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    He feels like he HAS to give this a good review but he doesn't really WANT to recommend it. So he gives away the ending.<br /><br /> He can tell Disney and Burton he PWAISED it so he'll get his PWESENTS, but in the meantime he's discouraged many of you from paying to see it in a theater because he's given the whole plot away. Very passive agressive.

  • March 5, 2010, 1:07 p.m. CST

    it seems harry only reviews the films he's invited free of charg

    by ludmir88

    thats why no Cop Out review.

  • March 5, 2010, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Tim Burton is hygenically impure.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Thus, I shall never watch another one of his films again. That is all.<P>Good day, sir. Good day, I say!

  • March 5, 2010, 1:09 p.m. CST

    For years...

    by topfivevideo

    I have been saying it... Harry's his nose up so many asses in Hollywood he just isn't objective anymore. Invite him to the set, throw him an interview, send him a fucking free DVD for fucks sake and he'll praise a film up and down. And heaven forbid he actually write a review that doesn't give anything away. I mean, a while ago I got so pissed at him I spoiled a movie in the TB and I will probably be pissed with myself for a while but he just keeps fucking doing it and it's uncalled for. Harry, fuck you :)

  • March 5, 2010, 1:32 p.m. CST

    70ies Porn Musical?

    by caipirina

    What's the exact title, wanna hunt that down

  • March 5, 2010, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Is this the end for Harry dumpty?

    by djdeathstar

    Harry Dumpty sat on a wall, Harry Dumpty had a great fall. All the king's horses and all the king's men Couldn't put Harry together again. Harry does not respect anyones opinion on these talkbacks remember who supported you in the first place Harry what would happen if you dident have the site you might have to get a j.o.b like the rest of us who you seem to look down on

  • March 5, 2010, 1:47 p.m. CST

    ...Harry will LOVE TF3...

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    ...after gettin a set visit and a new toy... remember ive foretold this... LETS GO TF3!

  • March 5, 2010, 1:54 p.m. CST

    i don't care

    by krazy8kat

    what you love Harry. I just care that you love something before everyone else, and you hate something before anyone else. And then you adjust your opinion to match the populace. Yay!

  • March 5, 2010, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Once again Harry stoops to faint praise

    by reflecto


  • March 5, 2010, 2:15 p.m. CST

    caipirina & UltraTron

    by Damned if I can login

    You must mean "The First Nudie Musical". It starred a then-unknown Cindy Williams (Laverne & Shirley). The only other person I know from the cast was Diana Canova. The highpoint of the film is the scene with the Stunt Cock...pure classic.<p>I'm not here for 'lovemaking'...I'm here for FUCKING. I do it 8 hours a day."

  • March 5, 2010, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Thanks, now I don't have to see it. ~

    by MastersOfNonePodcast

  • March 5, 2010, 2:39 p.m. CST

    This movie was so FUCKING AWFUL

    by BillEmic

    One of the worst movies I've sat through in awhile...I was just crawling out of my seat with boredom. It's a hollow CGI-fest aimed at no one. It's not a good movie for kids OR adults. I could hardly believe it was Burton - this rapes Lewis Carroll's work worse than "Planet of the Apes" and "Charlie & the Chocolate Factory" did their original films. Harry is on crack...just AVOID this movie at ALL COSTS.

  • March 5, 2010, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Harry, you're cool & god bless you BUT ...

    by madCanada

    You're in danger of becoming the "Tim Burton" of the internet. You're a good guy, but not a reliable critic.

  • March 5, 2010, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Burton will dump HBC for Anne Hathaway.

    by AzulTool


  • March 5, 2010, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Iam Legolas ...

    by madCanada

    I disagree with your "all artists age badly" thesis. Some age very very (Kurasowa! Eastwood!) Many of them do age poorly, but I think it's due to the fact that success/wealth takes away the feeling of hunger/urgency that inspires great work ... Tim Burton is obviously safe & happy in his little faux-Burtonesque Lala Land. I also think the commercial failure of "Ed Wood" kinda broke his idealism. TB's just a self-imatating hack now, a brand name posing as an artist ... An exhibit at the MoMa? Please. TOSSER. BURNOUT.

  • March 5, 2010, 4:36 p.m. CST

    Green Lantern and Alien prequel to be in 3-D

    by AzulTool

    I can't wait to see how fucked-up our elderly vision is going to be because of this trend.

  • March 5, 2010, 4:37 p.m. CST

    What should have happened.

    by Skraggo

    The Mad Hatter drops his sword in disgust when he suddenly discovers that swords kill? Terrible. It should've gone the other way. The death of the Jabberwock should've been a lightbulb of madness switching on over his head. His eyes grow wide and psycho-y. He looks at his sword. His mouth slowly stretches into a maniacal grin. He starts swinging like a madman, killing everything in sight. When the dust clears, he's standing atop a mountain of headless corpses, his clothes and face drenched in the blood of his enemies, laughing like a psychopath. Now I'd buy that for a dollar.

  • March 5, 2010, 5:11 p.m. CST

    The movie sucks. End of story.


    I'm glad I didn't pay $15 for my ticket. That is all.

  • March 5, 2010, 5:22 p.m. CST

    tim burton is like a kid telling a joke

    by baaba_pappa

    people laughed at his joke once so he annoyingly tells it OVER AND OVER AGAIN

  • March 5, 2010, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Loved BIG FISH (I know...)

    by bobjustbob

    ...but have HATED everything else Burton has done in a very long time. Perhaps if this was released in 9D I'd be interested.

  • March 5, 2010, 7:22 p.m. CST

    Hopefully this will bomb...

    by bobjustbob bad that Avatar will return to IMAX. It won't happen... but it would be nice.

  • March 5, 2010, 7:49 p.m. CST

    I wish Burton would do a straight Dickens adaptation...

    by CountryBoy

    I'd love to see his OLIVER TWIST, or GREAT EXPECTATIONS... a real human story, with Dickensian whimsy providing plenty of room for his "Burtonism" to flourish, but not to engulf the whole movie... Maybe someday!

  • March 5, 2010, 7:54 p.m. CST

    SOOOOOOO Many stories out there................

    by IHaveSeenEveryEpisodeOfPrisonBreak

    Midnight Run 2 with DeNiro Returning, Rachel Nicols Joins Conan Cast, Scott Porter and Michael Cassidy out of Captain AMerica Race, Ryan Goslin adn Steve Carell teaming up for untitled comedy, Fast and Furious 5 will be filming in Brazil, Pet Sematary Remake gets a writer, Wolverine 2 to begin filming in Japan in January, Green Lantern and Sucker Punch will be in 3-D, Oliver Stone Directing Savages, Marco Polo to be directed by Francis Lawrence, etc, etc, etc.

  • March 5, 2010, 7:54 p.m. CST

    SOOOOOOO Many stories out there................

    by IHaveSeenEveryEpisodeOfPrisonBreak

    Midnight Run 2 with DeNiro Returning, Rachel Nicols Joins Conan Cast, Scott Porter and Michael Cassidy out of Captain AMerica Race, Ryan Goslin adn Steve Carell teaming up for untitled comedy, Fast and Furious 5 will be filming in Brazil, Pet Sematary Remake gets a writer, Wolverine 2 to begin filming in Japan in January, Green Lantern and Sucker Punch will be in 3-D, Oliver Stone Directing Savages, Marco Polo to be directed by Francis Lawrence, etc, etc, etc.

  • March 5, 2010, 7:54 p.m. CST

    SOOOOOOO Many stories out there................

    by IHaveSeenEveryEpisodeOfPrisonBreak

    Midnight Run 2 with DeNiro Returning, Rachel Nicols Joins Conan Cast, Scott Porter and Michael Cassidy out of Captain AMerica Race, Ryan Goslin adn Steve Carell teaming up for untitled comedy, Fast and Furious 5 will be filming in Brazil, Pet Sematary Remake gets a writer, Wolverine 2 to begin filming in Japan in January, Green Lantern and Sucker Punch will be in 3-D, Oliver Stone Directing Savages, Marco Polo to be directed by Francis Lawrence, etc, etc, etc.

  • March 5, 2010, 8 p.m. CST

    drew takes himself too seriously

    by charlesbronsonLIVES

    i get it. you want to be a respected critic and all, but its as if his entire sense of awe and entertainment is lost to his urges to either lift up the little-seen film that no one has yet seen, or attack anything that seems to reach for mainstream success. don't get me wrong, i'm not a huge fan of every studio film that slithers into my multiplex, but i'm capable of knowing when and what i want to watch and see no use in obliterating anything that rubs me even the slightest wrong way. i don't know. i used to really agree with moriarty on a lot of his reviews when he was here, but since he went to hitfix i'm completely turned off by his bullshit. then again, i once shit in my own pants out of curiousity so i'm by all accounts a fucking idiot.

  • March 5, 2010, 8:53 p.m. CST


    by bobjustbob

    Agree 100%. I think that would be awesome.

  • March 5, 2010, 8:55 p.m. CST

    Why So Serious?

    by Karuma

    I don't know about the rest of you but I actually go to a movie before I make up my mind whether it is good or not or whether I like it or not, unlike, it seems, several posters in this thread. This movie is more visually stunning than "Avatar". Why? Because the visuals are not the story and that's why I go to the movies. To see a story. To be taken for a ride down that rabbit hole and find out what's on the other side and that's what this film does. It doesn't hit you over the head with visuals that make the story moot. "Alice" is well written, well acted, and beautifully realized. Remember this, when the story is not being talked about, like in "Avatar", it is then you have wasted your money. If you don't like a movie, fine, but go see it before you make up your mind.

  • March 5, 2010, 9:50 p.m. CST

    wheres MC-DYLTE's review?

    by DioxholsterReturns

    i want another!

  • March 5, 2010, 9:58 p.m. CST

    Oh that's why.

    by neverhed

    Haven't visited the site in a month or two. Figured I'd give it a go. Read the first paragraph and could not force myself to continue. Ugh.

  • March 6, 2010, 12:35 a.m. CST

    I have no expectations...

    by Powerring

    Except the Tron legacy trailer rocking the house. So in that case, the movie might be entertaining. I'll give it a shot, even though I dislike the anorexic, goth crack baby Bonham-Carter.

  • March 6, 2010, 1:54 a.m. CST

    It's posting BIG Boxoffice Numbers

    by secure214

    Box Office Prophets estimated it's weekend at $58.2 Million. Nikki Finke is reporting tonight a $45 million FRIDAY, and possibly $120 for the weekend. That is HUGE. I'm still not seeing it until I hear more feedback. It just looks like CGI shit to me. But I love Burton.

  • March 6, 2010, 2:44 a.m. CST

    It is easier

    by OptimusCrime

    It is much easier to tear something down than to be creative on one's own. That is why I am glad for Harry's reviews. They are so easy to tear down and make me feel like I could have a famous internet movie blog. Thanks Harry, for setting the bar so low.

  • March 6, 2010, 5:23 a.m. CST

    Harry likes a period piece where they break dance at the end?

    by Orionsangels

    That takes me right out of the movie. Why Burton included that scene with the mad hatter is beyond me!

  • March 6, 2010, 5:37 a.m. CST

    The problem with the dance sequence...

    by wildphantom07 that it is so out of context with the standard routine fantasy of the second half. <p> If he'd danced it during the tea party sequence it would have been fine, but the film unfortunately becomes soooo Narnia that a moment of pure 'Alice' just doesn't work.<p> For those on the fence about seeing it, I would suggest you check it out as visually it really is quite something. <p> But there's no shaking the feeling that overall the film just doesn't work. I felt it just not holding my interest and that blame has to be placed firmly at the door of the screenplay.

  • March 6, 2010, 6:03 a.m. CST

    @Wildphantom Why does Harry love the film so much then?

    by Orionsangels

    Why does Harry ignore the crap and force himself to like this garbage? Is it because Tim Burton made it. So he thinks he has to love it no matter what?

  • March 6, 2010, 6:25 a.m. CST

    Question for Harry...

    by DeNiro4Prez

    Will "the expendables" be Rated R or not? Thanks.

  • March 6, 2010, 7:28 a.m. CST

    @Orionsangels - I don't know...

    by wildphantom07

    ...I really don't know. Each to their own and all that, but I can't accept it being Narnia in Wonderland.<p> I can't accept Anne Hathaway's 2 minute appearance to amount to being a character I'm supposed to care about. I cannot empathise with the creatures of Wonderland wanting to overthrow the Red Queen when the oppression just isn't that apparent. There's no real emotional involvement in anything going on for it to try and tell the story it is attempting.<p> I'm not saying they were wrong to make it Narnia in Wonderland if that's what they wanted to do. But in my opinion it fails to even do that well. <p> I'm more than happy to laud it as a spectacle, because it is a really stunning effort from alot of talented people. Sadly their imagination just isn't met with a screenplay that is by-the-numbers. <p> And for the record, both Narnia movies were better than Alice in Wonderland. <p> I understand why Burton wanted to do a different take on the material, but I've seen countless interviews with him on chat shows recently where he never felt any emotional attachment or story going on in previous adaptations of the stories. Well I'm sorry, but the script he chose to direct just wasn't good enough to be able to deliver that. <p> SPOILER ALERT.....there's a flashback sequence late on in the movie that shows the original story when Alice is a little girl in Wonderland. Offering sequences I yearned to see in full. <p> If you're going to attempt to write a sequel to the original stories then you've at least got to stay true to the original spirit of the thing. That's what Moriarty's been saying, and I concur whole heartedly.<p> How could an Alice in Wonderland film feels sooooo unlike Alice in Wonderland for two thirds of the picture?? <p> It looks like a Burton film, but doesn't feel like one to me at all.

  • March 6, 2010, 7:50 a.m. CST

    Real News:

    by gotilk

    I poop in 3d, this summer!! <br>After I enjoy a second afternoon in the giddy joy of a Tim Burton film in 3d.<br> Harry's right on this one. Check your "I left childish things behind" facade at the door for this one and you'll be happier.

  • March 6, 2010, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Who was predicting a 100 - 120 opening?

    by JackRabbitSlim

    Sure as shit not I.

  • March 6, 2010, 9:17 a.m. CST

    On Olly doing Savages

    by JackRabbitSlim

    Somebody mentioned it before and I agree with them - how is this not a remake of Tequila Sunrise?

  • March 6, 2010, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Love Burton?

    by Seal Pool

    For those who say they "love Burton" or are a "Burton junkie" what is it exactly that makes you label yourself that way? The vacuousness? The recycled outsider weirdo plots? The forced quirkiness? Do you get a thrill out of repeatedly telling people, "The plot wasn't that good, but the the visuals were amazing!"? Do you work at Hot Topics? Please tell, I am dying to know!

  • March 6, 2010, 11:58 a.m. CST

    People are forgetting higher 3D Ticket Prices

    by secure214

    ...will give Alice a huge weekend. It's much more front-loaded than Avatar was, and is reaping the benefit of higher 3D ticket prices. Expect this to happen the rest of the year with each new 3D MEGA-RELEASE. Clash of the Titans will be HUGE. Hollywood is going nuts. They think if people see big numbers, more people will want to see the movie...

  • March 6, 2010, 12:11 p.m. CST


    by TheMandrakeRoot

    What are you smoking crack? How the fuck are you gonna say the visuals are the story in Avatar and not in Alice in Wonderland. I'd say you've got it completely backwards. This pathetic version of Alice in Wonderland has a brilliant source material it could have followed, instead they turned it into a generic Narnia-esque fantasy film with no real plot whatsoever. This movie is NOTHING without the CGI wonderland and the characters. Without the weird looking characters (Mad Hatter, Red Queen), CGI animal characters (Cheshire Cat, Caterpillar, Rabbit, etc) and typical weird Burton art direction, there is NOTHING to the movie. <p> Avatar used visuals as a genuine way to tell it's story. Without the beauty of Pandora and the believability of the Na'vi, the movie would have never worked. But the themes explored in Avatar and sci-fi concepts presented are FAR more intriguing and unique then a sub-par rehash of Alice in Wonderland. Despite familiar story beats, Avatar is far more rewarding of a film the AIW. Taking a sci-fi twist on a classic tale is brilliant, and despite what people say, it had never been done before. Sure both movies are more about a visual journey and experience, but at least Avatar provided some decent character arcs and a GREAT female lead. Not to mention the action was FAR superior. <p> I really can't fathom how stupid and bias you have to be to make such a stupid claim that the visuals were Avatars story but not Alices, when the ONLY REASON Alice was made was visuals. At least Avatar had a valid message that it wore proudly. My god people are fucking stupid.

  • March 6, 2010, 1:51 p.m. CST

    About the Mad Hatter and the sword...

    by Immortal_Fish else did he expect them to win Underland back? And if Alice had the same revelation as he, then how would the endgame have played out?<P>I'm reminded of Ironman -- a film I liked, mind you -- where he escapes capture and ceases manufacturing weapons... only to manufacture a weapon in his basement and use it unilaterally in other sovereign nations. It's fucking nonsensical liberal pap.<P>And if they were going to make Johnny Depp look so much like Elijah Wood, why not just cast Elijah Wood?

  • March 6, 2010, 3:53 p.m. CST

    I thoroughly enjoyed this film...

    by TheMarineBiologist

    Went in with low hopes and came out of it enraptured.

  • March 6, 2010, 6:39 p.m. CST


    by Powerring

    Wtf??? lies? bullshit? It was all a hoax to get me to see this pedestrian and forgettable Alice horseshit?

  • March 6, 2010, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Tron Legacy HOLY SHIT

    by Spacezilla

    My heart was fucking pounding during it. It looks so goddamn fucking cool. Honestly, I think it was a bad idea having this before Alice because it was all downhill after seeing Tron. <p> I WANT TRON LEGACY NOW!<p> About Alice, when it started and on through even the first meeting with the Hatter, I thought it was pretty great. I was digging it. I love the part with big Alice hanging with the Red Queen and she calls for her "fatboys" to entertain her. That made me laugh. But after awhile I stopped caring about what was going on. The 3D is better then what I read some saying. My favorite character was always the caterpillar (we have a lot in common)...and this version was kind of lame. Rickman should have been doing a trippier voice. I dug seeing the hookah but he was boring. <p>I read many complain about the dance that the Hatter does and that dance is explained by the cat a few times so in the context it makes perfect sense. Its weird but it made sense. The movie is maybe better then what I expected but its not great in the end. I would have preferred these awesome effects and art go to a more vivid and playful Wonderland. I don't prefer the darker takes for Wonderland and still infinitely prefer the Disney animated version best (over any other version). <p>In closing holy shit Tron Legacy! My most anticipated movie BY FAR. No other film coming comes anywhere near it. Its the only movie I can't wait for. It actually made me feel like I got my money's with. Seeing it in this kind of presentation. Fuck me.

  • March 6, 2010, 7:17 p.m. CST

    PowerRing That sucks

    by Spacezilla

    If Tron wasn't there for me I would have wanted to kill someone. But its no joke. There was a Tron Preview, and it was completely fucking Badass and perfect looking.

  • March 6, 2010, 7:24 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Spacezilla just sold more tickets for this movie than all the aicn writers combined.

  • March 6, 2010, 8:12 p.m. CST

    I didn't get the Tron trailer either

    by NoodlesHahn

    Do we know when it's going to be online?

  • March 6, 2010, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Maybe I'm the odd man out here,

    by rabidfnark

    but I love Harry's reviews. And I'm not kissing ass here. It's just that the man watches movies the same way I do: with my heart on my sleeve. Sure sometimes his grammar or whatnot sucks, and yeah he writes like a kid hopped up on sugar every so often...But I get that. I love that feeling when you're coming out of a theater thinking, "I gotta tell somebody about this." (whether it was good or bad). Harry still loves what he does, and that comes across even through the sometimes adolescent comments. I don't always agree with him, but the man loves movies, and that's enough for me.

  • March 6, 2010, 9:30 p.m. CST


    by Powerring

    From what I was told, not all theaters or showings are getting the tron trailer. Not seeing it put me in a real bad mood for Alice. This is the 1st time I have ever been promised a trailer just for it not to show.

  • March 6, 2010, 9:33 p.m. CST

    No love for BIG FISH, Lampers?

    by madmaximustdie

    2003's BIG FISH is still an underappreciated work of genius! Certainly one of Burton's top 3 (Ed Wood, Edward Scissorhands)

  • March 6, 2010, 9:58 p.m. CST

    The sound was messed up in my theater.

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    Is it just me, or do movie theaters reduce the volume for kids movies? Like, when I go to watch a movie like this, it isnt booming audio like normal. It seems like 60% of normal volume...

  • March 6, 2010, 10:15 p.m. CST

    TRANSFORMERS RISE OF THE FALLEN wins worst picture at Razzies!

    by Orionsangels

    Sandra Bullock worst actress for all about steve. the day before her oscar nomination lol

  • March 7, 2010, 1:59 a.m. CST

    I hate the fucking Razzies

    by Series7

    Its soooo fucking lame and easy. They don't even try. Its like a bunch of people who've just read shit about the movies they are talking about. First off Year One is by far the worst movie of the year, followed probably shortly by Funny People (just because the fucking movie cost $70 million and only should've cost $1). I would be surprised if the eldest member of the razzies was over the age of 15 because that's about as smart and funny they are. Its like they just go to Rotten Tomatoes and read what is not like. While yes Transformers 2 rightfully so deserves worst movies outside of that they got everything wrong. <P> They just don't try hard enough or aim high enough. Again fuck the Razzies, call me again when you are actually funny or interesting.

  • March 7, 2010, 3:41 a.m. CST

    Agree with Harry

    by Evil E

    Just got back from this tonight and feel pretty much spot on with Harry. The visuals were pretty incredibly, makes me wonder what the budget was. Also the new Tron Legacy trailer played before my screening and a singe tear of joy rolled down my cheek.

  • March 7, 2010, 4:28 a.m. CST

    Alice in Blunderland

    by Gil Brooks

    Terrible film. Just terrible. Ol' Moriarty's review is SPOT ON exactly how I feel. Stop giving guys like Burton and easy pass. This movie fails on EVERY SINGLE LEVEL.

  • March 7, 2010, 5:20 a.m. CST

    the screenwriter should have

    by Potatino

    given you an interview as well. Maybe then you would have written nice things about her too.

  • March 7, 2010, 7 a.m. CST

    Oi, Tim! Beetlejuice 2! NOW!

    by BiggusDickus

    You've even got the starting point already done for you - BJ's huge waiting-room number finally being called.<p>Com on, man. Enough of the so-so 're-imaginings', turn loose YOUR lunacy once more! Michael Keaton gotta eat!

  • March 7, 2010, 7:19 a.m. CST

    Buck Furton

    by HongKongCavalier

    Has brought nothing new to film that anyone else couldn't have done after a tab of Mescaline.<p></p> Turning Willie Wonka into a Michael Jackson clone was bad enough ... but no one ... NO ONE ... fucks with the Oompahs you asshat.<p></p> When you have to make a concious effort to BE "edgy" then you are NOT "edgy".<p></p> ps: if my ex sucked balls as well as your Batman movies she wouldn't be my ex

  • March 7, 2010, 8:04 a.m. CST


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  • March 7, 2010, 9:23 a.m. CST


    by paviod

    Saw the movie in regular 2D last night. Bored out of my mind - none of the characters seemed into the story let alone the 2-dimensional alice. The red queen was the best character with the most emotion. The little girl at the beginning and the flashback sequence were the best parts of the movie. Just felt wrong all around. Harry if you're going to review a movie, do it right and not while you have burtons cock in your mouth.

  • March 7, 2010, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Mad Hatter Jigg...

    by paviod

    worst thing next to Spiderman 3's dance sequence

  • March 7, 2010, 10:54 a.m. CST


    by Powerring

    Pick something that is popular to hate for the sake of beating on popularity. There were far worse (and more obscure) performances and movies than Bullock and transformers.

  • March 7, 2010, 2:34 p.m. CST

    The last 7 GREAT......

    by Number9997

    ....movies I have seen in the theater have been (in no particular order): No Country for Old Men, Gran Torino, The Dark Knight, Iron Man, Star Trek, Sherlock Holmes and Taken! These were great films! They were mainstream, captivating, entertaining and were examples of great storytelling! The problem isn't Tim Burton. The problem is the industry itself. It's all cliched nowadays. Everything is CGI and noone pays any attention to narrative! Avatar, GI Joe, Transformers, District 9 and Watchmen are garbage! The 7 movies I mentioned above are in my collection and will stand the test of time! Garbage like Alice in Wonderland and the upcoming Kick-Ass will fall into history's shitpile! Movies like that are trying waaay too hard! They are so stylized that they sacrifice one area to build up another. They are completely uneven! I'm sure Alice in Wonderland is beautiful to watch and the performances are there, but the narrative sounds loose and stupid! The fact that you geeks debate the greatness of a movie like District 9 is proof that majority of the normal movie-going public will forget about it! Films like Taken are so formulaic but everything meshes well. That's why it was incredibly successful and that's why it will be remembered fondly. I'm tired of these fucking movies that have to be quirky to establish themselves! Kick-Ass features a Michael Cena knockoff and McLovin teaming with 12 year old ninja girl! I have a great imagination and believe in forgoing reality when you enter the theater, but on the surface that sounds like it's trying too hard! Who knows and who gives a fuck? Great movies are hard to come by anymore.

  • March 7, 2010, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Who knew that the moral of Alice in Wonderland was

    by Mattyboy122

    'Go down the rabbit hole a young English woman and come out Richard Nixon'? Brilliant!

  • March 7, 2010, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Who knew that the moral of Alice in Wonderland was

    by Immortal_Fish

    'Go down the rabbit hole a young English woman and come out Harry Truman'? Brilliant!

  • March 7, 2010, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Alice had to tke drugs and trip out

    by Powerring

    Just to show some backbone in her repressed life.

  • March 7, 2010, 5:36 p.m. CST


    by paviod

    Agree with most of what you said but District 9 was actually a great movie

  • March 7, 2010, 5:37 p.m. CST

    ...and for Taken...

    by paviod

    I loved the movie until the unbelievable last 5 minutes where after Nielson just saved his daughters life and she goes in the car with the mother and he's left alone again...i DOUBT that after your father just saved your prissy ass from rape and murder that you would not cling onto him for weeks...

  • March 7, 2010, 6:36 p.m. CST

    Good, not great, but...

    by crankyoldguy

    the bashers seem so upset it's not the original Alice story. Boo-hoo. It's not supposed to be.

  • March 7, 2010, 8:46 p.m. CST

    Great Beetlejuice 2 idea!

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    I like it! The ifrst one came out, what, 1988? Well the sequel can take place in real time...meaning it took THIS LONG for Beetlejuice's waiting room number to be called! So now the sequel begins. Awesome!

  • March 7, 2010, 11:53 p.m. CST


    by Number9997 are correct about that ending! It was kind of a letdown! haha

  • March 8, 2010, 9:21 a.m. CST

    It's ok that it's not the original Alice story

    by Powerring

    It was it's own unique style of "sucky" and "forgettable."

  • March 8, 2010, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Wonderful World Of Disney

    by Youguysgotanymilk

    Does anyone remeber the Wonder Wold of Disney Alice In Wonderland movie? Do you know where I can find it now? <p> All I remeber from it was Alice and the Jabberwocky and the mirror. But i remeber loving it. It was live action. They always showed a clip from it in the opening montage scene for WWoD. <p> Someone has to remember that!

  • March 8, 2010, 3:33 p.m. CST


    by ghost_matt

    I own it on dvd. You can order it on Amazon here:

  • March 8, 2010, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Trendy Alice in Wonderland bashing...

    by DreadPirateRoberts

    Jeez...You could see the ready to hate it before you even see it with geeks all over this when the previews came out. I had a good time, so did my kids. Was very pleasantly surprised in fact. No, it is not getting mostly bad reviews, contrary to what keeps getting spout out. Tomato meter is 53%, so just over half of reviews are positive, just under half negative. IMDB user ratings are over 7 out of 10, and it took in $160+ million dollars, so it is not hated by most by any means. Just seems to stoke this need in the geek community to jump on the bandwagon and bash a Burton/Depp vehicle for once. Sort of like the incessant JJ Star Trek bashing. It has its flaws like anything, but I liked Burton's take and any sequel if it were ever made would do quite well in the theaters as well.

  • March 8, 2010, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Wow, Harry, this is amazing

    by SuperXY

    It is amazing that you think this, easily the worst implementation of 3D I've seen in several years, is great. And at the same time you think The Hurt Locker is so bad that you compared it to Crash. This 3D did nothing to take you into a universe and everything to take you out of it. Burton constantly used 2D tricks on a 3D film. And that simply doesn't work. It forces the viewer repeatedly to notice that they are in a theater instead of in a three dimensional world. The movie was a great story, but please go see it without the 3D. It is just awful.

  • March 8, 2010, 6:19 p.m. CST

    I liked it

    by MattmanReturns

    It wasn't a masterpiece or anything, but the characters were entertaining and the designs were great. Not sure why talkbackers have to hate or love something with no gray area in between.

  • March 8, 2010, 6:36 p.m. CST

    Depp need to fire his agent

    by tradeskilz

    before it is to late.

  • March 8, 2010, 11:43 p.m. CST

    why is it i've never seen the names

    by frank cotton

    of most of the haters before? TRON trailer was excellent, if too short. 3D in ALICE was great - lots of apparently blind people here. and why would you go to a TIM BURTON film, expecting something other than a TIM BURTON film?

  • March 9, 2010, 12:39 a.m. CST

    Harry also liked the Godzilla remake and The Phantom Menace

    by fastcars

    It's pretty clear that this guy loves special effects first, and second, and third. Story comes in 4,708th.

  • March 9, 2010, 2:01 a.m. CST

    Narnia, Bruno, Godzilla, TPM

    by yodalovesyou

    Harry's a bit like Pete Travers from RollingStone or Jonathan Ross - a two-faced populist, who'll say he likes something until the reviews and the General Internet Nerd consensus (or GINC) comes in and then he'll suddenly change his mind to match them and not feel left out. Basically, he's a fat ginger coward.

  • March 9, 2010, 5:33 a.m. CST

    Fantastic visuals. Boring pointless story.

    by Mr_Rosewater

    So Alice starts out in a world where she feels oppressed by what is proper and what is expected of her only to run away to Wonder Land where she is basically forced to do what everyone expects of her... I know this isn't supposed to be the original Alice story but shouldn't it at least stay true to the themes of individualism and imagination? Booo Burton. Booooo

  • March 9, 2010, 10:34 a.m. CST


    by shtonner

    This dude chats enough crap! His reviews are always the same - all over the place and contain half the film! He doesn't review...he repeats! I don't need to see the film i read this jokers review. Then he finishes off with subjective opinion, mostly bad ones. Harry, who made you the bearded prince of the film review!? You talk poo

  • March 9, 2010, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Dear Frank,

    by SuperXY

    Just because you haven't seen names doesn't mean anything. It means we have lives. Or that we generally don't hate. Or that this review was so wrong that something had to be said. And if you honestly think that 3D was good, then you must be the one who is blind. But go, and enjoy your blindness. More power to you for not noticing the terrible focus effects. The gimmicky birds and butterflies. Or the FACT that he created depth with camera tricks (a la 2D film) instead of with the 3D technology.

  • March 9, 2010, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Futterwaken? Furtherbaggin? Frodo Baggin?

    by aznfunk

    that dance scene killed the film. and Depps inconsistent accent/lack there of.

  • March 9, 2010, 6:21 p.m. CST


    by Zahaladeen

    ...what happened to you, baby? Do you even remember what it was like to make a cool movie? I won't see this movie. Ever.

  • March 10, 2010, 5:35 a.m. CST

    Screw this revisionist femi-nazi bullshit

    by goatherdingclownhunter

    I thought the trailers for this one looked like shit from the start. When Burton is good, he is very good, and when he is bad, he is horrid. His Batman films sucked. Planet of the Apes was legendarily bad. His Willy Wonka movie was good- except for the fact that he allowed Johnny Depp's off-target performance to ruin it. Now he's made a female empowerment Alice movie that doesn't even follow the friggin' book. Watch the Disney original, with its fucked-up Irish stereotyped Tweedle Dee/Dum, and its pot-smoking caterpillar and his trippy-ass vowel song. Burton's good movies? Nightmare Before Christmas. Corpse Bride (fuck you, haters). Above all? Sweeney Todd. That movie ROCKED. If 07' hadn't been such a fantastic year crowded with good films, Sweeney Todd would have won Oscars. Depp was on target (only happens about 50% of the time, lately). Alan Rickman, Timothy Spall, Helena Bonham Carter, Borat...all were note perfect. The imagery was perfect. Instead of this shitty Wonderland movie, I am going to rent Sweeney Todd again and enjoy the hell out of it.

  • March 10, 2010, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Should Have Done LOOKING GLASS WARS

    by Buzz Maverik

    I'm not big on literary grave robbing, but for a movie adaption, and for Burton, THE LOOKING GLASS WARS would have been a better choice. Depp could have still starred as Hatter Madigan, bodyguard to Princess Alyss Hart.

  • March 11, 2010, 6:38 a.m. CST

    The Wonder land of.....

    by Dead_Geek

    ...Boring. Zzzzzzzzzzzzz.

  • March 13, 2010, 7:49 p.m. CST

    I was gonna say that:

    by BixbySnyder

    <p>"the ONE Tim Burton Project" i would pay to see:</p> <p>"Dr. Strange" w Johnny Depp as Doc Strange.</p> <p>"Appearing In Magical3D 2012"</p> <p>(Feel free to use that Tagline Marvel/Disney"</p> <p>However...maybe Guillermo del toro directing, withPierce Brosnan as the Doc Would be better.</p> <p>Alan Rickman IS Dormammu, though.</p>

  • March 18, 2010, 5:43 p.m. CST

    3D question

    by Yer_Maw

    Okay, went to see this, thought it was pretty good (had its moments) - and it was my first experience of this new-fangled 3D. This was in the RealD system ... my question is, does anybody else find that the whole picture is made very dark by the lenses in the 3D 'shades'? It was really pissing me off throughout the movie, and I noticed that quite a few others in the packed house were doing like me, regularly taking the glasses off to see a bit of light onscreen ...<p><br>Sorry if this has been discussed ad nauseam elsewhere but I haven't seen too many mentions of this and am beginning to wonder if it's just me. In truth if it's a choice between a normal-brightness picture or the 3D effect, I'd take the former.

  • March 19, 2010, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Underground Alice — Best Kept Secret of Wonderland

    by TheThreeJacks

    The hype over this thoroughly unremarkable movie was understandable in the build-up to its release, but once it hit the cinemas...well, let's just say: It failed to live up to expectations. So why is Harry Knowles, the King of Cool, the Guru of the Underground, gushing over Tim's Burton's visually stunning mess? And moreover, why hasn't he breathed a word about the totally uber cool underground book ALICE IN VERSE: THE LOST RHYMES OF WONDERLAND? How can the best underground book released in a long time escape Harry's net? C'mon, it's the LOST friggin rhymes of WONDERLAND! Anyone who knows anything about Lewis Carroll has at least heard of the missing pages from his diaries that may or may not have contained "the lost rhymes"! Harry get on the stick, man! This book is killer cool and should at least warrant a mention! Has the definition of "cool" changed? Has Harry's site become For anyone who's into Alice in Wonderland (and by that, I DON'T mean Burton's crappy flick), they have Alice In Verse: The Lost Rhymes of Wonderland at Amazon (Barnes & Noble had sold out of it when I went there and they said they ordered more but the shipment hadn't come in yet, so I just went to Amazon and got it in a couple of days ;-)

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  • May 30, 2010, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Was this it?

    by DeusMaximus

    I just watch Alice in Wonderland. I am absolutely gutted to be honest. I was expecting so much, but those expectations were not met at all. Of course different folks and all, but omg even my girlfriend did not like it. The cat was great due to voice and such. But the famed hatter? the role of a lifetime and so on? I think a new chapter in the bible should be written for Depp and Burton, but dear god I did not like him in this movie at all. But well onward to a new movie dear friends, onward!