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CW’s SMALLVILLE Snags Season 10!!
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The CW just handed an early renewal to “Smallville.” Tom Welling, who turns 33 next month, is on board for his 10th season as the Boy of Steel.
The only current CW series not given early renewals so far are “One Tree Hill,” “Life Unexpected” and “Melrose Place.”
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“SMALLVILLE” TO RETURN FOR A TENTH SEASON ON THE CW
March 4, 2010 ( Burbank , California ) ─ The CW Network has announced that its hit series “Smallville” will return in the fall of 2010 for a momentous tenth season.
“Smallville,” a modern retelling of the Superman legend, stars Tom Welling as Clark Kent . The series moved to Friday nights this season, where it currently ranks as network television’s #1 show in its time period among men 18-34 and men 18-49. Additionally, “Smallville” has dramatically improved The CW’s ratings performance in its Friday 8:00-9:00p.m.time period by 67% among adults 18-34 (1.5/6), 200% in men 18-34 (1.8/7), 75% in adults 18-49 (1.4/5), 183% in men 18-49 (1.7/6) and 74% in total viewers (3.12million).
“Smallville” joins the five previously announced series – “The Vampire Diaries,” “Gossip Girl,” “90210,” “Supernatural” and “ America ’s Next Top Model” – which will all return for another season on The CW.
“Smallville” was developed for television by Alfred Gough & Miles Millar (“Shanghai Noon,” “The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor”), based on the DC Comics characters. Kelly Souders & Brian Peterson serve as executive producers, along with James Marshall, Mike Tollin, Brian Robbins and Joe Davola. The series is produced by Tollin/Robbins Productions, Millar/Gough Ink and Warner Bros. Television. SUPERMAN was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster.
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March 4, 2010 ( Burbank , California ) ─ The CW Network has announced that its hit series “Smallville” will return in the fall of 2010 for a momentous tenth season.
“Smallville,” a modern retelling of the Superman legend, stars Tom Welling as Clark Kent . The series moved to Friday nights this season, where it currently ranks as network television’s #1 show in its time period among men 18-34 and men 18-49. Additionally, “Smallville” has dramatically improved The CW’s ratings performance in its Friday 8:00-9:00p.m.time period by 67% among adults 18-34 (1.5/6), 200% in men 18-34 (1.8/7), 75% in adults 18-49 (1.4/5), 183% in men 18-49 (1.7/6) and 74% in total viewers (3.12million).
“Smallville” joins the five previously announced series – “The Vampire Diaries,” “Gossip Girl,” “90210,” “Supernatural” and “ America ’s Next Top Model” – which will all return for another season on The CW.
“Smallville” was developed for television by Alfred Gough & Miles Millar (“Shanghai Noon,” “The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor”), based on the DC Comics characters. Kelly Souders & Brian Peterson serve as executive producers, along with James Marshall, Mike Tollin, Brian Robbins and Joe Davola. The series is produced by Tollin/Robbins Productions, Millar/Gough Ink and Warner Bros. Television. SUPERMAN was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster.
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One of the best series on television, and actually deserves its renewal.
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great genes, still looks 20
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Darkseid is a pretty obvious contender for "big-bad" next season.
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I've never seen it, but I swear I thought this show was done like six or seven years ago. I'm amazed this is still on.
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Clark Kent is in his mid-20s in the series.
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well, at least, they got rid of the kryptonite killer of the week idea...
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Great news!
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Any posting anywhere of how much they are going to be paying him this year? I thought I read somewhere that he was done. I can only imagine what he was holding out for salary wise to come back another year.
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Unfortunately.
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Does CW not have anything else? They would rather trot out this steaming pile year after year?
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This show has gotten a lot better the last few seasons, but it is truly lacking the real spirit of Superman if he's not in the suit. The film reboot is still years away, they can do this without hurting the film franchise at all. And yes, they have been laying the subtle ground work that Darkseid will be the big bad next year. All the more reason to put him in blue and let it fly, literally and figuretively.
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as they do on The Simpsons where nobody ages? Are they still in the world of around 10 years ago on the show, or there references to twitter and Obama? Just wondering how they they've stretched out the this part of the Superman myth to ten years.
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Congrats to the Smallville Cast & Crew!
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well, the Superman mythos is so vast and varied, this show could go on indefinitely if they keep redefining it like they have. What started as a Buffy ripoff - high school freak of the week formula turned has transformed into so many different shows. At one point, it was all about fathers. At another it was all about the choices you make to become a hero or a villain with the Clark/Lex relationship. Then it was the Clark/Lex/Lana triangle, which was tired pretty quickly. Then it was about corporate intrigue and espionage. Then it was about defining not just doing good, but HOW you do good. And how you actually become the hero people need, as well as forming a community through the Justice League and Society eps. This most recent iteration, in my opinion, is the most successful, not only because it's getting closer and closer the mythos we know from the comics, but because there's so much rich potential there. I loved the fact that the Justice Society folk had to teach Clark, Chloe, and Ollie to think of their group as a family rather than as a vigilante and/or terrorist cell. To actually hang out and share meals, be a community. Granted, episodes themselves have been largely hit or miss throughout the show's run, but several really entertaining episodes often make up for a whole lot of crap ones. I do like Callum Blue as this Zod clone - he's a really good villain, the best one since Lex, but this whole Kandorian plot is getting old and I'm looking forward to moving on to the Checkmate material and more Justice League stuff. But they could continually redefine the show and it could still go on, with new characters and new plots. Though I really think they should do a kick ass 10th season where they finally do all the eps they've been holding back and give us the flights and the tights at the end. They know we want it. They must want it themselves. If this Man of Steel thing actually works, they can move the franchise to the films and give Smallville a great sendoff. I'm not saying carry over the cast (I'm not in that camp), but have a great 10th season that creates anticipation for the new film. And then let the show go.
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...when he first did SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE? And 33-year old Tom Welling is STILL playing Superboy??? Kill this show now and stick him in the movies, for pete's sake!!!
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...but keep it and it's cast far FAR away from the big screen.
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C'mon, get him in the suit and get him taking on the Superman persona!
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I think this year proves that, if they can keep moving forward, there still is life in the old dog yet. But let's put him in the suit and be proud to embrace "Superman"
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Renewal was inevitable. As was Herc's laughable attempt to spoil the news. What a moron.
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"Tom Welling, who turns 33 next month, is on board for his 10th season as the Boy of Steel."EVERY SINGLE TIME he refers ro smallville, he points out welling's age... WHO CARES! He doesn't look 30 at all.
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HERC, we ALL know you watched the Justice Society episode--so why not share your opinions, GOOD OR BAD, I DON'T CARE.
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A decade of Smallville! I've been a loyal fan since the start but what only makes it better is that Herc hates the show so much!
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I watched the first five and about a half seasons of this show, but then I stopped caring about it. I heard various things about the show over the next few years and couldn't really believe it was still on or that people were watching it. I tuned in for the Justice Society episode however (had to see live action Dr. Fate and Hawkman!) and since then I have kept watching. I'm back, and am amazed how far it has come (or gone.) It is still as boring and kind of lame (like it always has been) but the good stuff is worth putting up with the bad. I'll definitely follow the tenth season, especially if they bring in Darkseid and bring back Lex. Can anyone tell me exactly how/why he left the show?
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So S10 is a go? Anyone betting Darkseid shows up in some form at the end of this season pulling the strings? Mind you it could be Boss Dark Side and not New God form.
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Other than that, Smallville's harmless.
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Mar 04, 2010 6:00:55 PM CST
Why do people want shows they don't watch to be canceled?
by vin_diggler
No one forces you too watch it. and even if they do cancel it, there will be 30 more shows that come out that you probably won't watch. Just move on with your life and let those of us who do enjoy this show, talk about why we like it.
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Put him in the goddamn suit and be done with it! Seriously, 10 years, enough already. "Smallville" was about him growing up, figuring out who he is, we're past that now. Time to man up, put on your tights and go stop a bus careening of a bridge and falling onto an orphanage/pet hospital.
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You can't predict how an actor will age but, damn, Tom Welling has matured into a perfect Man of Steel. Put him in a movie!
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No Chloe next year, so lets finally make this a Superman show.
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Mar 04, 2010 6:07:15 PM CST
YES!!!Kudos to the new showrunners for injecting new life...
by thanos0145
into this show the past two seasons. Especially, embracing the DC comics mythology which Millar and Gough refused to do.DC Entertainment better allow the rights for more characters to appear on the show, BRUCE WAYNE/BATMAN AND DIANA PRINCE/WONDER WOMAN IS A MUST. There is no Justice League of America without those two being involved.
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Why? This bastardization of a well-beloved franchise has overstayed its welcome.
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Glad to see the CW woke up and realized that they have absolutely nothing else that can survive the Friday Death Slot better than SMALLVILLE. How does that Smallville Crow taste, Herc?
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It's a bad show but it isn't offensive. I could be bitter because Dollhouse didn't even get two full seasons, but one has nothing to do with the other. If ten seasons make people happy then I suppose it's a good thing.
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the only people dumber than herc are those who come to talkbacks proclaiming "Cancel it already!!!" Actually, as much as i loathe herc (and as much as he has a disdain for his readership) these 'cancel it!' losers are on a whole other level of idiocy than herc--no competition. Instead of being douchebags, these people could yell "RESOLVE IT ALREADY! PUT HIM IN THE SUIT HAVE HIM FLY A WAY AND FADE TO BLACK AND SHOW 'THE END.'" I want the show to go on forever... its no competition--smallville has drawn upon the comics more than any other incarnation we have ever seen of superman.
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And there's nothing I love more than hearing bitchy smallville haters cry!
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To anyone here asking Herc for his opinion, don't bother. Who cares what anyone thinks about this show? We love it, we watch it and we just got another season!
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It's about the team now. Not just Clark.
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Of course Tom Welling and Erica Durance are on board. I also hear that Justin Hartley and Cassidy Freeman were already signed on for a 10th season, but I'm wondering about Allison Mack and Callum Blue. I'm also surprised that they haven't announced that this will be the final season. I have to agree with the other comments about Welling's youthful appearance. He may be in his thirties, but he absolutely passes for twenty-something. The same goes for Erica Durance.
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If they'd just put on the suit and keep up the Absolute Justice tone and themes, there would probably be a pretty big bump in viewing just from sampling and it'd stick. This is great news
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i'm a huge fan of this series, and i'm looking at it when we are brainstorming on the suerman reboot
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I don't know when this has happened in the history of a show before.
But after the creators left this creatively bankrupt show...
IT GOT BETTER.
All of a sudden things were ACTUALLY happening. No shitty Lana-as-a-witch story, no product place-
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I've barely watched the show but lots of AICNers seem to like it. And maybe I'll take the time someday to watch the best episodes
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..now that Miller/Gough have left. I think they will go with Darkseid..but the current comics version. and yeah...GET HIM IN THE SUIT!!
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I want Welling in that suit and flying as much as the next person, but maybe Welling doesnt want that. Besides Dean Cain...what has happened to every actor that has played the role? doesnt really surprise me.
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I have to say, at first with the freak of the week it was terrible. And some goofy shit along the way when Lana got powers or whatever, and went to China. And I do admit missing both the Luthors who could chew through scenery (really, no Lex? wtf).
Doomsday was awful in every way. A whole season buildup to a 2 punch fight? f#@ you
But this season has been fun with the Justice Society, Zatanna (HOT), even the Wonder Twins were fun. And Green Arrow is generally pretty cool. Hell they had Jor El on! I'll keep watching..
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Every time they show a computer or cell phone its got the damn Windows logo in your face. Chloe should upgrade Watchtower to Macs like every other show on TV. Microsoft is probably paying half the bills for the show.As for Smallville, it's gotten better the past few years but it is still trading water a lot of the time. They should plan to make this the absolute last season and go out with a bang.
And like UltimaRex said, keep the cast far away from any Superman movie. I like the show for what it is but I do not want to see it become the movie franchise. It's fucked with canon far too much. Moving the cast to the big screen would surely kill the Superman franchise for another 10 years. -
And they'll beat SG1 for the longest runnest sci-fi show that isn't Doctor Who.
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The first episode I saw was summer of 2002 (first season re-runs) and involved Lana Lang stripping to her lacy underthings. I was hooked. It got terrible, then got decent again. But it's never been better than decent. I think glasses at this point are stupid as everyone who knows Clark (including Lois) knows what his face looks like without glasses. I agree, let him fly damn it! Flying is the coolest Superman trick. Also, put him in a red and blue costume, but not tights and probably not a cape. Worked for Brandon Routh in a high-budget movie with stylish photography. I don't think it would work on the show. When it comes to movies and the comic books I'm pretty much a purist, but I like to think that the series is a great place for experimentation, it's like an alternate reality. God knows that's been done in comic books.
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I hope they bring Lex Luthor back.
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If you are into comics it is a hell of a fun show. You should chime in with your opinion? Thanks for the talkback in any case. ☺
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these past few seasons have been quite good.. the suit obviously needs to be there and not thrilled with Zod with powers.... but a tenth season.. wow.. never dreamed of that... if you enjoy it, watch.. if not, rip on something else.. but 10 years.. you gotta give it up for that...
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and I doubt its a coincidence that he wrote most of the great Clark/Lex episodes.
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Has actually been quite good. Much better than last year.
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Mar 04, 2010 9:17:54 PM CST
It's been a number of years in "Smallville" time too
by andosonundslikeamong
Especially the high school years, each season of the show = 1 year of their lives. It might be a but blurry since then, but still, he isn't 33 playing Superman at 17.
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I tune in just to laugh.
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I am a huge fan of comics, and specifically the DC comics characters.
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they were going to cap this show at eight seasons - I hope that means they also throw out the "no flight, no tights" rule too. Here's hoping he's flying by the end of this season.
This current season has been surprisingly strong and consistent, given how haphazard the quality has been for the last few seasons. Last season started well but took a nosedive when Lana returned, and never recovered.
I'm just not sure how they're going to handle Clark's transition to his public persona - all references to his future point to him becoming Superman. But it's too late for the glasses "trick", it's too late to be able to bugger off training for several years and return unrecognizable, and they already had an episode where he's outed Iron Man-style and that didn't end well. I'm expecting they'll pull some deux ex machina crap with Zatanna casting a spell on everyone or something else just as "convenient". -
...was right!!! The end draweth nigh! Call your friends and relatives. Let them know you love them. The world is about to explode. (I jest, of course.)
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"The luckiest sons-of-bitches in television, flying under the radar for 10 years straight." They'll lovingly refer to it as: TLSOBITFUTRFTYS."
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Glad to hear it's getting a 10th season. Is Smallville great television? No. Is it fun television? Yes. I checked out of this show after the 6th season because I was bored with it. But after Best Buy had the season DVD sets on sale for $9.99 at Thanksgiving, I went back and watched Season 8 (then 7). Season 8 was really good and Season 9 has stayed at that level of quality. Glad to see the showrunners will get a 10th season to close it out how they want.
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They've meandered long enough.
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They've had the past 3 seasons to "close it out how they want" but they kept pushing for (and getting) renewal. The result has been a show that has long overstayed it's welcome. It's not even fun television anymore. It's boring, lame crap.
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...so the 33-year-old Welling (who looks a decade younger, he must have DiCaprio/Depp genes) playing Clark isn't *that* much of a stretch. This isn't a 47-year-old Kevin Spacey playing a 20-year-old Bobby Darrin, here. And for everyone bitching about "canon", the Superman comics have reimagined themselves hundreds of times over the years, so why does everyone hate this particular version? He's not wearing the suit? Boo-hoo. This show gets the IDEA of Superman brilliantly, and Welling's sincere performance is one of the best since Christopher Reeve.
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"If you will not be my knight,....You will be my pawn!"
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but the ratings and direction the new showrunners have taken the show have dictated otherwise. Are the Legion of Superheroes, JSA, Amanda Waller, Checkmate, mention of Darkseid, and Zatanna lame and boring crap. I guess the meteor freak of the week and Lana Lang was good stuff.Are you upset that CW cancelled one of your shows but Smallville is still on?You don't have to watch the show if you don't want to.
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i'm tired of the tiptoeing-around-the-subject Blur bullshit. Ten fucking years of prolonging the painfully inevitable. i mean, shit, all it took for Zod to fly was a drop of Clark's blood, but even after all this time and life lessons and training that Clark has endured, he STILL can't go all "Up, up, and away"? JUST LET HIM FLY, ALREADY!
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I actually think that it is a clever way to get around their self-imposed rule of "no superman."
Not saying I *understand* it or anything....in my mind what better way to build up to the new movie then to have Supes in a weekly show. If they got a better budget,
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that they COULDN'T have him become Superman during the show's run. It wasn't an aesthetic choice. They were limited to the High School/ Smallville years. Lex, Lana etc. When they started introducing all the Metropolis characters and bringing in other superheroes it becomes more and more odd that he ISN'T Superman. Noone expected the show to run this long either. I don't watch it myself. I always assumed when it went off the air I would watch the DVDs. Now I'm going to have 10 years of DVDs to catch up on at some point! Hahaha.
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the darn suit and yes, flying already. What happened to talk of a TV movie called "Metropolis?" Also a pilot named Hal who bonds with Oliver (wait, that's out 'cause of tehe feature film. A brooding guy named Bruce who's quite the detective (wait, that's out 'cause...).
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I should give it another shot. I couldn't handle Superman in high school. Maybe now they're adults in the adult world?
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is the lack of glasses. The fact that so many people are witnessing Clark at the Daily Planet doing his everyday thing sans glasses makes it completely implausible that anyone wouldn't be able to tell that Clark is Superman. Especially since he's worn glasses before and they've seen him remove those. But maybe they'll come up with a good explanation for that. I dunno, I've been watching it and while it is a lot better than it was, I still don't think that it's "good" television. There are a lot of things that could do to improve upon it, not the least of which is continue to enhance their internal continuity. I couldn't care less about continuity with comics, since I just look at this as the "Ultimates" version of Superman. I just wish things would fit together more. (Of course, some things they need to conveniently forget, such as the fact that Metropolis is supposed to be 3 hours away from Smallville, yet people go back and forth like it's no big deal in the same day.) I'm just hoping that they use season 10 to finally wrap everything up and call it a day. Some shows just need to say "that's it." Which I actually expected this one to over three years ago. Haha.
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When Clark drops the cristal up in the north pole and creates the fortress that's when his "training" begins (it happens right after daddy Kent dies), If memory serves it is stated in the movie that from the moment he enters the fortress and begins his training and the moment he leaves the fortress flying 12 "human" years have passed... so, by not letting Clark fly for a few years I don;t think they go against canon, since all this time would be considered his "training". We never see the training per se in the movie, only flashes and Brando's voice in off talking to him, so we don't really know how it went, do we?
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I love me some Smallville. Although a full new season equals about 6 brilliant episodes and a whole load of shitty ones. As is the formula for this show. But the shit is usually worth sitting through (bar the Lana Vampire ep)
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And rename the show Metropolis. It's getting painful. Clone Zod JUST got powers, and he can already fly. SUPERMAN!
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...equals me a happy camper! :-)
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Don't need the Red & Blue suit
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Honestly. What has changed since season 1? Nothing except the location and a handful of interchangeable characters. This isn't a show about superman. Superman doesn't skulk about in the shadows - he stands up and says don't be afraid to be the best you can. It annoys me that this show has got away with failing to understand that for so long.
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Hey guys,
I was watching Superman Returns and something suddenly made sense...
I know everyone hated the movie, i loved it, but i can see why.
Bryan Singer, or the storywriteers, just had too much thrown upon them. He made the movie he thinked everyone wanted, the opposite being Nolan, the movie he wanted to make.
It's so clear really. Bryan Singer loved the Donner Superman, as we all/most did, but then he had whispers saying, you should look at this, look at that, etc and it just got in the way.
Luthor was great with the bits that weren't scripted, maybe it was Spacey, sorry, it WAS Spacey, but i think it was also the director. Everyone on these forums complain about shit being stupid, writers particularly, but no-one ever gives credit to the bits where speech isn't required but still scripted.
Sorry again all for my drunken ramble, but sans Reeve, Routh IS Superman.
I can't watch an episode of Chuck now without feeling supe vibes.
Sure the script was emo superman, but there was more superman in there, and more potential for a fantastic movie than we've seen through any other vsion of superman so far. i love all superman stuff, so maybe I'm bias, but it was better than the haters and everyone gave it credit for.
Yes this isn't about smallville, but i wanted a voice, and John Farnham told me to.
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I don't see how you can say there was potential.
I tried to watch Superman Returns in the cinema. I paid for a ticket. I was asleep in record time. I downloaded the movie after wards to try and watch it again. SAME THING.
At least with the download, I was able to go back and check what was the last bit I remembered, to see how quickly it put me to sleep.
12 minutes.
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the last 2 years have been alright but as a character, Tess is beyond worthless, and Cassidy Freeman has never felt like a good fit for this show. Glad we're not going to waste the momentum it's got now.
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and focus on the formation of the Justice league. Then they could focus on other Characters story lines and make Clark fly without breaking their original "No Flights/No Tights" rule for Smallville...
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The renewal is awesome! It's weird, but Smallville is almost a Marvel version of Superman: what would a "real person" do if they found if they had powers? Look, any number of episodes and story lines is far better than the last movie. I keep hearing they want to change around the next movie but not sure how. Well, Smallville has done a great job of re-intrepeting canon to make it more accessible. The best thing it's done is make the character more accessible through the relationships with Chloe, Arrow, Lex, and the others. The movies will always fall short on this. Sure, some storylines and episodes have fallen way short of the mark - but it's gotten progressively better. IMHO, I think the "No flights/No Tights" rule is a good one. It forces more creativity and, hell, it keeps the budget down. I think it would be a mistake to pull in Darkseid anytime soon - they don't seem to be able to afford effects of a duration long enough to pull off a suspension of disbelief. There are other recent storylines the writers could pick from and tweak.
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Sorry guys, but once he puts on the suit, it's all over. WE may get one look at him in the suit in the final episode. But that will be the end of Smallville, and the beginning of Superman!
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I have not watched Smallville though I am a huge Comic Book fan. I just never got into it. But then I saw the promos for the JSA episodes so i watched those and loved it. My comment is that Waller said she needed the JSA to get back together because of something big coming. Maybe CRISIS???
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Sorry about the blank post above. I just thought of something. If this is the final season you can bring a form of Crisis to the series get the JSA and JLA and hell even Waller's Suicide Squad and fight this Crisis. Then if you feel things have not happened you can have the finale of the Crisis reset the Smallville universe so no one knows Clark is Superman and he can wear his glasses and be the Clark we know and love
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You heard it here first, folks!
We've seen it alluded to several times that the Smallville Universe isn't what is should be (Remember Lightening Lad asking Clark where his cape was in the Legion episode?) We've seen hints about Clark's destiny (Dr. Fate scene in the Justice Society episode.) We know things are way out of order in this timeline that will culminate with the Kandoran bringing a holocaust to the Earth before Clark realizes his potential.
Look for The Spectre to set things right. In a climatic four hour event rivaling anything ever done in the Crisis series of comics, Spectre "resets" the time line back to when Kal-el is being rocketed from Krypton. Then, in slow motion, we see glimpes of Clark being found by the Kents and growing up in the storyline we all know. The finale ends with a long shot of Clark, spanning from his red boots slowing up to the yellow "S" on his cape as he slowly ascends into the sky... -
I remember when John Byrne illustrated Superman. (I love his art BTW) but he explained in those books how Clark shaves ,and how people dont recognize him as Clark through the simple disguise as the glasses. The basic premise was that Clark is nearly as fast as the Flash. In the Superman mythos, Byrne wrote Clark Kent as having a more aggressive and extroverted personality than previously depicted, even making him a top high-school football player. Byrne also did his part to come up with explanations for how Superman’s disguise works, such as the public simply does not realize that he has a secret identity since he is unmasked, that Superman would vibrate his face via his super speed in order to blur his image to photographers, and having Kent keep a weight training set around to explain how the human and presumably weaker Kent could have a frame as massive as Superman’s. (wikipedia). It could work..But seriously arent we spending toom much time thinking about it? Its a tv show about a an alien savior...if you guys are buying that, then why cant you guys buy a zatanna casting a spell or dr fate changing the past a little...geez....escapist fantasy...have you guys ever heard of it?
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Plan a fucking *series* finale that involves him actually you know flying, in a superman outfit.
Otherwise the whole 10 years will be one almighty cock tease.
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JoeQuest> That's a terrible idea. You just woke Bob Newhart up from a dream.
I say no suit, ever. Smallville is more mature than most Superman fans. I was looking forward to "Absolute Justice" so much, and it was so lame, primarily because of the costumes! Dr. Fate was kinda cool, but the Hawkman guy and stars & stripes chick were laughable! Bad over-acting didn't help either.
Smallville is the best representation of the Superman legacy ever to grace our televisions. It seems the series will never avoid those dumb genre episodes with Krypto-street racing, vampires, witches and other lame episodes (we did have a zombie Lois this season, remember?)...but the series has always been built around the long arcs building for the finale/premiere dates.
I still think the Clark/Zod-Lex fight was better than any fight in "Superman Returns", and major villains like Brainiac, Bizzaro and Doomsday have been handled extremely well.
So keep Clark in his Neo costume, and Green Arrow in his leather hoodie, they'll be far better than any traditional costume which look campy on TV.
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Mar 05, 2010 9:08:26 AM CST
Let's build a brand for 10 years and then change the name!
by wickedjester
Morons. They're not changing it to anything. It's staying Smallville. Maybe they add something to it, but they're not going to re-brand. What financial world do some of you guys live in?
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Let me echo your Tess Mercer post...she needs to die soon. They keep trying to find ways to make her relevant to the story, and it's getting beyond stupid. How many times have they established how bad-ass she is, then Chloe pushes Tess to the limit? Oh please. She sucks the life out of everything on the screen!
And will somebody please bring Annette O'Toole back?! We need some connection to the past, and Ma Kent's last days on the show left us feeling "dirty" as she lusted for Lionel. Big, big fan of Glover/Lionel, but that story was just cruel! Martha was our Mom too! Just gross... -
So many people think they are an authority on superhero movies/shows while not knowing jack about the comics. They are FUCKING COMICS BOOKS. They are FUN. There does NOT need to be all this logical explainations to every little detail. its superheroes we're talking about... superheroes... the basic concept of superheroes is outrageous.
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In fact it made my day...thanks CW execs for finally doing something right!
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Its "better" than it was, but thats not saying much. I have always found Smallville entertaining in its way, but, lets face it, it just doesnt have the budget to put a cool Superman on screen. I still think Welling would be a perfect Superman though.
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I'm ok with it being a superman-less show but I just need it to end with a shot of him taking off in the costume. Agree about Welling being a good big screen superman though.
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...Give Clark the gay curl! i hate Superman but i can admit Smalllville has gotten better tho... but i wonder who from Dollhouse will play the big bad next season... Enver as Darkseid?
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Mar 05, 2010 11:18:31 AM CST
Is this show actually good? If so, when did it start being good?
by iforgotabout19
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With Hartley and Mack starring.
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I have watched this series since the beginning, but I am looking forward to it ending JUST so I can FINALLY get the payoff of Clark FLYING in the SUIT!!! Zod got his powers one day and was FLYING THE NEXT FUCKING DAY! How stupid or incompetent is Clark that he hasn't figured out in ten YEARS what it took ZOD ten HOURS to learn? FLIGHTS AND TIGHTS. PRONTO!
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Why does it have to be one thing or the other: having the suit on the show or not having it? Why not just do "a very special episode" of Smallville where the suit is introduced, for a- wait for it- very special situation, then, EVERY NOW AND THEN, the suit will be pulled out for future special situations. This will suggest that Clark didn't all of a sudden start using the suit full time, but slowly built up to using it all the time.
This way, we can still have the flavor of the show (no suit most of the time), but at least show us all a LITTLE of what we all want to see at this point, which is SUPERMAN. -
I haven't watched Smallville for years, but I did tune in for 'Absolute Justice' with the Justice Society. Smallville season 10 could be very interesting if they do more crossovers with the DC Universe.
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But they need to focus on fixing all the things that are holding the show back from meeting it's potential, starting with the writing. By embracing more of the DC Universe, they've hinted at what it could be and how good it could be. The show's certainly fired up a lot of excitement and imaginations. But hinting/teasing at what might be means little if they don't follow through.
While they deserve a ton of credit for all the progress they've made, the stories are still "lacking" and they could do much, much more with the story arcs and character development. People often knock Superman as being uninteresting but I think he's a great, great character with near unlimited storytelling potential. He should be a character who's as rich and "complex" as say, Batman if not more so. This is a hero we should be rooting for and empathizing with as he struggles with all the mental, physical and (most importantly), the whole range of emotional issues of being Superman. That's where/how they should be connecting with the audience.
Welling could certainly be doing more with his character but they really need to give him better material to work with. Also, it goes without saying that they need to improve the dialog and that there's an awful lot of fat they could be trimming from each episode. Quality writing and creating "a great Superman character" would easily give it universal appeal and propel this into the category of really(!?) good shows. As it stands it's still hard to recommend to anyone outside the comic-geek community. -
Zod is a true Kryptonian, while Clark is symbolically grounded to Earth and humanity. That's the underlying reason, I believe. Maybe Darkseid's appearance will force him to learn next year.
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I hope they allow him to fly by the end of the season and introduce the costume for the series finale.
I don't see why they should uphold the rule of no flights at this point anymore since shows like Heroes were able to use flying sparingly.
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Just saw on RottenTomatoes.com. Expect AICN to have something on it in a week. To help them out, it's going to be set in Japan. No word yet on how it will fail to live up to even the lowest expectations. Hugh Jackman to star. Some cheap hack, hailed as being edgy, to direct.
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I don't know if I can take the black "costume" much longer. He looks more like Thomas Jane's Punisher than Superman with that badly-drawn S-shield. Couldn't Oliver or someone hook him up with a decently-printed t-shirt at the very least? I realize it's supposed to be an intermediate step toward his embracing the costumed hero thing, but Jeebus, let's move on already.
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If Michael Rosenbaum doesn't come back for a season 10, there's no point in doing one.
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teach him to fly, put him in the suit (at least for the big series-finale battle), and WRAP IT UP! Ten years is at least three years longer than this series should have lasted. And how is it that all of the Kryptonians who have presumably never been to a yellow sun planet can instantly fly as soon as they arrive, but Clark hasn't figured it out in ten years?
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I'm not sure why it bothers people so much that Clark doesn't wear his glasses all the time. He doesn't behave like a bumbling reporter, either. It's not like they've completely ignored the glasses thing. He's worn them in a few eps as a nod to the comics, and very recently revealed his bad eyesight & geeky glasses to Lois. As for the cape & tights, I seriously doubt we'll see him in the traditional Superman outfit until the very end of the series. They'll probably experiment w/ variations of it until then, like the current black outfit he wears as the Blur. Maybe the next version will have blue & red in it. That makes perfect sense to me. The show is about Clark Kent BEFORE he embraces his Superman persona completely.
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So he'll be back as Zod.
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one of my all time favorites obviously, Booster Gold. Now that would be a cool character that could easily be translated to the small screen.
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Getting a green light for a tenth year is rare in tv land. Congrats to SV for accomplishing the almost impossible. Fun show, often brilliant, always enjoyable (although Lana was getting tiresome), SV is great TV. Seasons 8-9 have rebooted the show. By the way Oisin5199's comment above is the best--my sentiments exactly!
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Absolute Justice kicked ass...and with Checkmate in motion and fuckin´Maxwell Lord cast, I believe Smallville´s gonna have a solid 10th season
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Suck it, haters
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I can't count the number of times i've asked herc, in all kinds of ways, what his opinion of the Justice Society was... he ignores that, yet responds to another guy, claimilng he is a big fan of DC Comics, but makes (largely uninformed) snide, patronizing remarks about the show, without a damned word of what he thought of Justice Society episode... i mean, seriously, WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM HERC? honestly, there's been so many things that have led me to believe that you have some psychological disorder, and that's a topic i know a shitload about... its like you WANT us to hate you... fuck you. you don't deserve the column you have, that all of us could do better (seriously, try proving why you bring more to the table than anyone else. you don't bring JACK)
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http://www.tv.com/video/GvmJvn6Z9FrorFBWqRbVTorOikUtYh0y/small-talk?o=cbs
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I think the douche's silence on the subject indicates that he liked Absolute Justice but hasn't said so because he can't bring himself to compliment Smallville.
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THE MIDDLE AGED MAN OF STEEL
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your questions directly? Not saying it will get answered, but since it's a question specifically for him, one only he can answer, it might be the better option.
"its like you WANT us to hate you"
I don't think he wants us to hate him (or maybe he does) but rather he likes being something of a shit-disturber. He knows mentioning Welling's age, or referring to him as "Superboy" sets some people off. Remember, this is the same guy who would end every single Reality TV story with a comment about how those who say they don't like reality TV pleasure themselves to American Gladiators. Basically a preemptive insult at those he knew would soon post only so they could disparage the show and even Hercules himself for talking about it. Then one day in a Big Brother thread things got a little nasty resulting in a banning or two. Credit to Hercules, he no longer includes that bon mot in his Reality TV articles. Perhaps he saw the hypocrisy of banning someone who posts the same negative comments in every reality TV thread when he himself was making the same negative comments about the detractors of Reality TV in every Reality TV thread.
Bottom line, don't take it so personally. Hercules can sometimes be a dick, perhaps even intentionally. Did he really need to bring up the Letterman joke, and Palin using the word "rape" to describe it, in the story about Burnett & Palin pitching a reality show about Alaska? No, but he knew it would set people off, fingers flying in angry responses, or to his defense. Does Hercules get paid per post? It's a question many have wondered about, and intentionally fanning the flames of fanboy fanaticism certainly makes for a good argument that he might. However, in the end, what Hercules thinks isn't really that important. The TBs are here so we can express our own opinions. Who cares what Hercules thought of this or that episode; feel free to ask, but then, after, tell us what you thought of it. That's the beauty of the TBs - a myriad of opinions, not just the moderator's. -
Mar 06, 2010 12:58:44 PM CST
You know what this show needs? Batman and WW as guests!
by mrmysteryguest
Come on, producers!!! You're putting everyone else in the DC Universe on "Smallville"; you're telling me you're too poor to pay for Batman and Wonder Woman?!? You can't borrow them from Christopher Nolan and whoever's holding Wonder Woman's rights or from DC itself?!? You wanna have someone guest-starring as Plastic Man on first before the DC Trinity?!? Are you guys on crack?!?
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and Hercules will look down and whisper, "No."
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is like the third season of the re-imagined/rebooted "Smallville"
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To, all you dumbass commenting who don't even watch the show. A few episodes ago, at the end of an episode, Clark told Louis that he was hiding something. Then he turned around and put on those big goofy glasses. He's not wearing them all the time or anything yet, but he has revealed that he has them, sometimes wears them, and needs glasses. This happened WEEKS AGO.
p.s. Rosenbaum has already said he'd be back for a 2-4 episode arc at minimum, so long as they let him wear a bald cap instead of shave his head and if the money is right. -
...Rosetta, when Christopher Reeve informs Tom Welling's Clark of his origins is a fantastic moment in TV history and Superman lore, having John William's theme really nailed it. This should be the last Season of Smallville, Welling is also a producer has directed as well, he is branching into that anyway- the last two episodes MUST focus on him becoming Superman, and we must get at least one action scene with him the full garb and hair, having just of him flying the suit does not cut it for me anywhere chaps, if the show had lasted four seasons then maybe, but now I want an entire action/adventure scene to finish it off. After ten years and putting up with the highs and lows of the show- we deserve it!!
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I don't get why people continue to bitch about those three thing. Batman/Bruce Wayne and Wonder Woman/Diana Prince will never be on the show... ever. Smallvile was originally supposed to be Gotham, about a young Bruce Wayne before he became Batman and Warner Bros. decided to drop that because of the movie franchise. Warners control the character not the Smallville show runners and not even DC. Since Wonder Woman has been tied up in movie purgatory for years she won't becoming to the show either. As far as the glasses goes, who cares, seriously?
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A tenth season of Smallville will allow it to overtake Stargate SG-1's record for longest consecutively running sci-fi show by 4 episodes (unless you count the two DVD movies, which would make them tied).
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we should see the suit season 10 martha sent it to him in the finale "if you decide to stay" can't wait lol
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Seriously, they're hags
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