Just FYI – TRON is listed on HDNET for this Wednesday evening. This has to be a new transfer, as there wasn’t an HD master of the movie before. Could this be the new, re-color-timed version that Lisberger was overheard talking about? Thanks, “Raschied”Okay, here's where I get super-mega-unapologetically pathetic: Time Warner recently pulled HD Net and HD Net Moves from its service - leaving me with no access to either network. And...I very excitedly, desperately wanna see if this is the version Lisberger was discussing...to see what it looks like if it is the newly color-timed version, etc. Would anyone be able to help me make this happen - in a way that isn't terribly troublesome of inconvenient to themselves? I'm not sure how this works in terms of DVRs and whatnot, but...the sniveling Geek in me had to ask. I'm sure Harry and the gang wouldn't mind taking a look as well. If this is doable, DROP ME A LINE. You can find HD Net's listing HERE. TRON's scheduled for Wednesday evening @ 9pm Eastern.
March 2, 2010, 11:56 a.m. CST
And just got a stupid shirt?
March 2, 2010, 11:57 a.m. CST
When Tron 2 was rumored years ago and fell apart, I never thought it would happen. Was always a fan of the original even when it was in vogue to bash it.
March 2, 2010, 12:06 p.m. CST
In olde computer-speake, "TRON" was a short command for "TRACE ON" or to do a step-by-step debugging. (The opposite command was TROFF, which as a film title sounds like something done by either the Kroffts or Jim Henson.) So you want us to do a TRON on the HD status of the broadcast, is that it? A TRON on Tron?
March 2, 2010, 12:08 p.m. CST
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
March 2, 2010, 12:09 p.m. CST
I saw this when browsing HDNet the other night and instantly set it to record before I even read about Lisberger's updates. I was excited to show my kids this awesome movie. I hope it is the "new" version!
March 2, 2010, 12:10 p.m. CST
for christ sake......
March 2, 2010, 12:19 p.m. CST
I'm there. DVR set. :)
March 2, 2010, 12:30 p.m. CST
the trailer for the new movie will be releashed on friday?
March 2, 2010, 12:35 p.m. CST
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March 2, 2010, 12:39 p.m. CST
and on Canadian HDNet we get...Maverick...Wow
March 2, 2010, 12:44 p.m. CST
by dr sauch
March 2, 2010, 12:50 p.m. CST
HDNET in Canada is showing Maverick tomorrow night...fucking Maverick...
March 2, 2010, 12:54 p.m. CST
I'm getting psyched about this TRON LEGACY thing. Really looking forward to it. Thanks for the heads-up on HDNET's broadcast of TRON - I fired up the Dish Network Remote Access app on my iPhone and set it to record. Gotta love tech.
March 2, 2010, 1:25 p.m. CST
opening tribeca, this is some of the most welcome news i think ive ever heard. now what we need iis a an imax re-release of this new edition before legacy comes out. hey, toy story got one, we can only dream right?
March 2, 2010, 1:34 p.m. CST
If you watch all the special features on the TRON DVD, and you understand filmmaking, and most importantly animation, you'd have to place TRON as one of, if not the most arduous film production of all time. The amount of manual labour in processing each cel via photostats and multiple exposures and rotoscopes and mattes for TRON is insane! And unparallelled!
March 2, 2010, 1:35 p.m. CST
Which was done before the days of WYSIWYG 3D software. These guys were creating motion by manually plotting the position of objects and vertices and feeding them into the computer manually, for every object in every frame!
March 2, 2010, 1:53 p.m. CST
I can't wait to watch this while i sit naked on my leather recliner, eating beef jerkey dipped in nutella, and rubbing Avon Skin-so-soft body lotion all over my nipples and ear canals. its gonna rule.
March 2, 2010, 2:01 p.m. CST
If you are in Austin, switch to Grande Communications. No, I don't work for them. They are cheaper and carry the networks that T-W doesn't.
March 2, 2010, 2:03 p.m. CST
I do give props to Bruce Boxleitner.
March 2, 2010, 2:08 p.m. CST
I'll NEVER forgive you fuckers for dropping HDNet and HDNet Movies just because Mark Cuban wanted it to be part of basic digital cable. I hate you assholes. <p> Sigh.
March 2, 2010, 2:10 p.m. CST
by The Reluctant Austinite
March 2, 2010, 2:11 p.m. CST
first of all, i think there WAS an existing HD master. because Disney released a 2-disc DVD. remember that? most of the cases, when a studio does a spiffed-up DVD edition, guess what? they've mastered it in HD and down-converted that master to SD for DVD replication. it's just a practical fact. so this might not be new anything. secondly, i'm actually very slightly worried when they start talking about "new versions" even when it is limited to color-correction. being a huge fan of Escape From NY, i was actually slightly let-down when I saw the new spiffed up DVD release and noticed that the sodium vapors in the streets of night-time NY had all been timed bright green. that might be slightly more realistic, but i'd always seen them as blue, and accepted them that way. besides, although street lights might be green in the color spectrum, how often do we really perceive them as green? i just thought that was a color choice that went a bit awry. hope it does not happen on TRON.
March 2, 2010, 2:17 p.m. CST
If Verizon's FIOS is available in your area, they carry HDNet and HDNet Movies. I'll be recording this as well, even though I was never a big fan of the film. Found it kind of boring, actually, but willing to give it another chance.
March 2, 2010, 3:43 p.m. CST
for one night only
March 2, 2010, 3:44 p.m. CST
In the case of TRON, Disney did not create an HD master of the film. The DVD came out in late 2000, prior to it being standard practice to create a 1080p master. To my knowledge, the closest to an HD master that was ever created was an archival print in 70mm. It's possible that this is just a scan of the 35 or 70mm print, but the timing of the premiere makes me think otherwise. We'll see tomorrow night.
March 2, 2010, 3:51 p.m. CST
having someone mail you a DVR and then you and the orange blob tying to watch it, isn't going to work. Theres a security code embedded into the player that makes it only work from the home account. </BR> I think you'll plug it in and nothing will happen. Maybe even if it won't receive any channels, it *might* be able to play back previously recorded content, but I bet you'd still have to be on the same cable provider that the DVR was on. </BR> Good luck though.
March 2, 2010, 4:22 p.m. CST
the follwing day. It's not that hard to find these things because geeks know it's importance and just like the starwars hd brodcasts and no bluray- you will see geeks doing something liek this to get it into fan hands. utorrent is your friend!
March 2, 2010, 4:24 p.m. CST
makes me look dumb
March 2, 2010, 4:36 p.m. CST
I will be watching it tomorrow night.<br> <br> I'll post if it is the shiny new version.<br>
March 2, 2010, 5:33 p.m. CST
March 2, 2010, 5:37 p.m. CST
Capture at 1080i (20.5 mbps VBR) and then burn to BD-R. Bam....blu-ray copy of Tron in high def.
March 2, 2010, 7:02 p.m. CST
Must be creaming his suit.
March 3, 2010, 12:25 a.m. CST
'Cause you KNOW that shit's gonna hit the torrent sites Thursday morning.
March 3, 2010, 10:09 a.m. CST
I reported this back on that whole go to the Flynn Lives thing last week.
March 3, 2010, 11:17 a.m. CST
I set the DVR last week when I saw the spot on HD NEt! Can't wait, fuck off haters!
March 3, 2010, 7:20 p.m. CST
with lots of compression artifacts.
March 3, 2010, 8:09 p.m. CST
March 3, 2010, 8:18 p.m. CST
This looks like a bad upscale of a 480p master; at least all the live action elements. The film stock that TRON used was pretty crappy, but this is just terrible.
March 3, 2010, 8:26 p.m. CST
Depends on the compression of your provider. Luckly, not too bad on my end (yet).
March 3, 2010, 8:50 p.m. CST
I think it's Disney's old "Love Bug" film stock that messes up your experience. This is the best the film has ever looked...but TRON is just one of those films that has its flaws super-magnified in HD. The computer generated stuff looks nice and vibrant, but it looks like it's super-imposed around stuff that was filmed by the second unit from HOOPER.
March 3, 2010, 9:39 p.m. CST
grainy. <br><br>yet colorful. i think this might be the redone version, only because the colors are so damn bright.<br><br>either way, im enjoying it.
March 3, 2010, 10:34 p.m. CST
the less i think its the new version.. the blacks arent very black, and the lines arent very sharp.<br><br>eh, who cares, its tron in HD.
March 3, 2010, 11:28 p.m. CST
Good to see it in HD, and the quality was definitely better than any TRON I've watched on video -- but at the same time, it didn't seem particularly remastered or "new." The Directv feed of HDNet is as good as it gets -- and it definitely didn't look like a 480p standard def master (not on Directv) -- but I doubt it's been heavily remastered. The colors and such...all of it looked fine...but it also looked aged. I doubt this is the version they'll be using for Blu-Ray.
March 4, 2010, 12:52 a.m. CST
The momentary "sparks" that made the screen flicker were nonexistent on HDNet. Steven Lisberger always said that those were accidental, but the contrast jumps were so bad, he had to make an excuse for them. Now, with digital gamma correction, they've all been removed! I think the color has also been corrected, too.
March 4, 2010, 6:35 a.m. CST
Still waiting for this to hit the torrent sites.......
March 4, 2010, 7:48 a.m. CST
I saw the new trailer in IMAX 3D last night in front of Avatar. It looks amazing, and the best part was I didn't have to sit through Alice afterwards.
March 4, 2010, 9:52 a.m. CST
you are wrong. It's pretty obvious. Whoever said upscaled 480 was correct.
March 4, 2010, 11:29 a.m. CST
I checked it against the DVD, and I think it's the same master, just with DNR. One of the "sparks" were still on the HDNet version. I hope the Blu-ray remaster is better than this!
March 7, 2010, 12:34 a.m. CST