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TRON LEGACY Trailer has been seen... a lot!!!
Hey folks, Harry here with news on the highly anticipated TRON LEGACY trailer which was selectively screened this morning around this country and beyond. From the sound of it, I really really hope it is in front of my screening of ALICE IN WONDERLAND in IMAX 3D this Monday, but that could possibly be, just my own personal idol masturbatory fantasy wish. Anyway - we had a host of spies write in with their coverage of having seen the trailer - so without further bs from me, here ya go...
Hi Harry, I was one of the "lucky few" to get a ticket to today's Tron Legacy IMAX 3D event in London - via that viral pitcell.com site. Although you'll probably get loads of these, I thought I'd jot down some thoughts for you. First, the rubs stuff: - They made us wait a long, long time outside the screen. Too long. - They only showed us "it" once. - "It" wasn't long enough. So what was "it". That's where the brills stuff comes in: - WE GOT TO SEE THE NEW TRON LEGACY TRAILER - Due to timezone shenanigans, it turned out we were to the first audience in the world to see it. - They gave us a "FLYNN LIVES" t-shirt. - WE GOT TO SEE THE NEW TRON LEGACY TRAILER Brief rundown of the trailer: - A good deal of exposition from Bruce Boxleitner - An introduction to the main character - Son of Flynn - A lot of footage from the Tron-world. - Remember the arcade from the original film? Remember the atmosphere in the arcade, with Flynn being king of his little place. That is what the Tron-world is now like. - Son of Flynn is thrown into the world, and there is a very cool shot of the Encom laser rearing it's head behind him. Sadly we only got to see it once which was disappointing, considering how long they made us wait. But I think, from what I saw and remember, Tron Legacy is going to be great. At the very least, the visuals will be remarkable. (If you use this, I'm Cosmosboy.) All the best.
Thanks Cosmosboy, now let's see what Salvador Dalek thought:
Hiya Harry!!
Just got back from Toronto to lovely Hamilton, Ontario. I was invited on the spur of a moment to some kind of ultra secret Tron: Legacy event at the Scotiabank Imax theatre in Toronto. $20 round trip bus ticket later with my cheeks red with geeky bubbly anticipation. Cell phones or any electronic devices were strictly banned. We were even checked with metal detecting wands. Sounded pretty serious!
What could it possibly be???
Maybe a test screening! Maybe the first 20 minutes of the movie! With 3D stereo glasses mounted on my melon my party and I got nice seats middle row back.
The place was absolutely packed with nerds. Tall, lanky, wispy sideburned nerds. My beard was bristling with excitement.
The lights dimmed. It was about to start. So, what was this 1 hour bus trip and 20 minute walk through slushy Toronto for?
A couple minutes of brand new trailer!
Eh...disappointment. But COOL DISAPPOINTMENT!!
I'm getting a little bit more of a feel of the plot of the movie at this point. We all know it's revolving around Flynn's son. It starts with said son being told about his father being missing for 20 years. How Flynn was revolutionizing everything from computers to medicine. The son enters Flynn's arcade. He then goes behind the secret door behind the old Tron arcade game. Fires up a computer. A familiar laser rises behind him. Fires up.
Then we get the computer world!
It was very frantic from this point out. First thing we see is a full on Recognizer. It was badass. Lots more moving parts. The cockpit seemed to rise up the legs like an elevator. Inside we see Flynn Jr. We see a shot of Young Flynn (presumably Clu). We see a badass old Flynn with a posse of other programs behind him. It looks to me like Flynn totally owns the place. We see lots of frisbees being thrown. We see lots of light bikes smashing each other up. We see a light quad-bike getting in on the action. We see the gal from Bones laying on a pretty badass couch.
We also see some tap-dancing with a cane.
Hmmm, I should have brought a pen and paper with me to the theatre. They played the damn thing once and then it was time to leave.
GAH!
All in all the trailer was very fast paced and kinetic once we entered the computer world. Immediate thoughts are Flynn feels like an antagonist in this film. The look of the computer world feels a little different than the concept trailer that was first debuted at Comic Con...that being largely very dark. This trailer seemed the complete opposite. It was like going to The Apple Store actually. Everything was gleaming white and very bright.
Also on the way out we were given t-shirts that say 'Flynn Lives'. That didn't appease a lot of the lankier dweebs in the theatre. Most seemed pretty miffed that they were just treated to a dinky little trailer.
Dinky little trailer, but BLOODY AWESOME!!!!
Fuck yeah. TRON!
-Salvador Dalek
Ack... I really fucking want to see this now. This is torture and torment... Let's see what Sailor Mike thought:
You are probably being flooded with e-mails regarding this, but here it is:
Trailer, which is in 3-D opens with shot of Encom building.
Then Alan is talking to Flynn's son and says, "I've told you that I'd let you know if I ever had information about your missing father." He then says something about a call he got from Flynn's arcade, only the line has been dead for twenty years. There's a shot of Flynn's arcade, old and boarded up, with his son breaking in. He approaches the TRON video game and puts in a quarter. It falls out. He then finds a secret door, much like the door that opened on the "lightcycle video" a year ago. In the back is a secret room with a computer. He sits at the desk and the same lazer that "zapped" Kevin Flynn into the "GAME" Zaps Flynn Junior into the game.
The computer world is very much like what we saw in the teaser. We first get a shot of a recognizer which takes Flynn Jr, somewhere. We also get a shot of Olivia Wilde's character lounging on a chair dressed in an all black body suit. As a contrast, we see an absolutely gorgeous blonde woman walking towards the camera in a white body suit. We then see a dude with white hair who I thought was David Bowie with a guitar. I assume he's with Daft Punk. We then see Clu, Jeff Bridges' computer doppelganger, dressed in all black with yellow stripes getting off an elevator with a posse behind him. I think he's a gangster or something that runs the computer world.
The final segment shows Flynn Jr. walking down a hallway towards a lighted room (pitcell picture) as we hear something like "It's been a long time." We then see Kevin Flynn's eyes (same shot from the teaser). The trailer ends with the date the film opens and then a shot of two combatants on the light cycles bumping into eachother.
The mood of the trailer is definetly DARK. Throughout there's an electronic baseline which I assume is Daft Punk.
The trailer ran about two minutes and change; maybe less and left me wanting more. After which, the lights went on and security ushered us to the exits. All who attended were given FLYNN LIVES t-shirts, which made it worth it, I guess.
Sailor Mike
Egads - please - you're killing me.... no more... Well, here's one that's critical..
Hey Guys,
I came all the way from Jersey for Tron "Day" in NYC and all I got was this stupid fuckin T-Shirt.
the stupid fuckin T-Shirt
The only thing they showed was a new 2 minute teaser trailer, that's almost guaranteed to be attached to Alive in Wonderland in 6 days. While the footage was fantastic, the event itself was a colossal disappointment. Next time Disney should actually try and out do Cameron and Fox, not just replicate their idea as half-assed as possible.
CR
I agree. I know they had the trailer, but I really do feel like they should have put together a little behind the scenes thing to accompany this - perhaps something with the director, Lisberger and the Dude. That said, I'd be real happy to just experience the trailer right now. The good news is, everyone seems to really dig the trailer, they're just upset that they woke up early for something they didn't know what was, then just got a 2 minute trailer - that they seem sure will be in front of ALICE IN WONDERLAND - hope they're right. Here's another...
Hey Harry,
Just got back from the Tron Legacy trailer screening at the Lincoln Center IMAX 3-D here in New York City.
So I managed to score a ticket from the http://pitcell.com/ website on Thursday. Met my friend early this morning and headed over to Lincoln Center.
They checked my name off a list and then we had to be searched with metal detectors. They took everyone's cell phones, but it did mention on the ticket not to bring them so I left mine at home.
They handed out black FLYNN LIVES t-shirts.
At exactly 10 am they dimmed the lights and started the trailer. And I have to say the trailer looked amazing.
Started off with Flynn's Son talking to some man about finding his father. They presume Flynn to be dead, so the Son inherits Flynn's Arcade. They show the Son racing through the streets on a motorcycle - cutting corners sharply and jumping over curbs. The Son pulls up to Flynn's Arcade which looks like it has been shut down for years. He enters the arcade and turns on the power which lights up all the old video game cabinets. The Son walks over to the Tron machine and puts a quarter into it. The quarter falls right through the coin slot and onto the ground. When the Son bends over to pick it up he notices grooves on the floor and realizes the Tron cabinet can be moved. It opens up like a door and there is a secret computer room on the other side. The room appears to have similar Master Control Program desk console that Ed Dillinger had in his office. The Son boots up the dust covered machine and behind him the Laser from the ENCOM labatory rises up and powers on. We do not get see the Son getting digitized, but in the very next shot we are in the digital world and they show an updated look Recognizer slowly landing. The CGI looked beautiful. There were more shots of various digital world locations. I do not remember exactly what was said but we hear the Son and Flynn talking about how it was good to see each other again. During this they showed what looked like a DISC battle arena. Various characters throwing Discs at each other and one character who was wielding dual discs. They also showed a bit of Light Cycles racing around. There is a shot of (I'm assuming) Olivia Wilde's digital character lounging on a couch. Another shot of a man in Yellow (I couldn't tell if it was Flynn) walking with a group of Red Characters behind him. They also showed one shot of Flynn's face - the same blurry video shot that was used in the already released trailer. Over all of this the Daft Punk score was playing - the same score that's been floating around the internet. At the very end of the trailer we see the Son in a blue light cycle cutting off a red light cycle and it disintegrates.
And that was it. As soon as it was over they kicked everyone out of the theater. I was expecting a little more - perhaps extra footage or at the very least some kind of introduction. Considering this is the same trailer that will be shown in front of Alice in Wonderland, this event was kind of pointless except for the free t-shirt.
Thanks,
Erik Kang
See - Erik really dug it, but was disappointed that it was just a standard length trailer. And check out Supergirl below...
Hey Harry,
"That's the most excited I'll ever to be to see Bruce Boxleitner," my friend said when we left the TRON LEGACY preview this morning in Toronto. And I'd say if that's the reaction generated by your hype machine, your hype machine is broken.
Maybe AVATAR DAY spoiled us, but when I schlepp down to the IMAX screen at 9:30 on a Saturday morning to see a 3D sneak preview of a major motion picture, I expect some serious meat, not a 90-second trailer that's probably gonna be on the internet in a few days. Unfortunately, the latter is what we got.
It's actually a pretty good trailer, and if I'd seen it under normal circumstances I'd probably have loved it. As expected, Flynn's kid - who can ride motorcycles! Foreshadowing! - goes looking for his daddy. Bruce Boxleitner shows up and says he got a phone call from the old Flynn's Arcade, which has been closed for decades. Flynn Jr. goes to the arcade, sits with his back to one of those big obvious laser dealies that digitized his dad way back when, and before you can say TRON!, he's in the computer universe. Which looks largely like we remember it, except everything is up to Macintosh 2010 spec, not Atari 1982. The film looks amazing, moody and rusty in the real world, and big and badass in the computer world. That hottie from HOUSE is in it, so that's good. And there's a couple seconds of lightcycle chase right at the end of the trailer, where the effects look to have been further developed since the Comic Con preview (which already looked great).
And then it ends. Goes dead. Our crowd actually burst into disgruntled laughter. We weren't given a lot of information here - we didn't know if we were seeing the whole movie, ten minutes of the movie, or a scene from the movie... but I can guarantee that nobody in that theatre thought we were seeing just a regular old trailer. We were dispatched into the snow with free FLYNN LIVES t-shirts, and that was that.
Someone made a PR mistake here. I have no idea if TRON LEGACY will be awesome or awful or somewhere in between, but you don't generate positive buzz by pissing off your target market by blowing away a couple of hours of a Saturday morning on a 90-second trailer. And like my mama says, if you can piss of Canadians, you can piss off anybody.
If you use this, call me Supergirl.
So, the lesson? If you want to do this sort of promotion - let the audience know AHEAD of time that they are lining up for a 90 second trailer that will be screened once only. Otherwise, you risk backlash like this. When you get an audience to line up for hours for the great unknown... SPOIL THE FUCK OUT OF THE AUDIENCE. Hit them with so much more than they were expecting. Send cast members to the various locations that were doing this. Do a presentation. Have autographed merch. Otherwise - you'll get some enthusiastic trailer reviews with bitter after tastes. And that's not really what you wanted... is it?
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come on
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turdish spot
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Feb. 27, 2010, 2:28 p.m. CST
Tron event without showing the original Tron?
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
That is pointless.
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third rocks
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...its raining..
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I agree. A quickie trailer with no b-t-s and no other tidbits is a bit of an insult. Poor marketing decision. There is time to make amends, though.
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i want the god damn trailer NOW
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so i didn't miss shit..hahahahaha.
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Feb. 27, 2010, 2:40 p.m. CST
Fuck you marketing suits at Disney
by ITraveledBackInTimeToTeaBagAbrahamLincolnInTheFace
I woke my ass up too on a Saturday and alls I got was a stupid T-shirt. The least you could have done was shown it twice. With all this secrecy and then the quick boot, it felt like exactly what it was a stupid PR campaign. Especially after the whole race around the world campaign the other day, which for those of us paying attention, was dragged out all day as a build up for a 2 minute trailer that peeps are going to see in a couple days? FAIL. And more importantly I am a sheep and I fail too. Blow me Mickey.
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The wait to see a single, pretty average trailer - it is nowehere near as good as the Comicon one, and is in fact a step backwards, IMHO (the computer world appears to have lost any hint of the style and panache which it had in the original, and the characters appeared to be simply humans in spandex, rather than the ghostly creatures of light that the clever photography of the original made them). The London screening began with a cheer for the Disney logo, and ended in complete silence as stunned (not in a good way) audience members left unable to voice their disappointment... This was indeed a shot in the foot for the marketing dept. First the inexplicable clock, and now this...
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Harry hit the nail on the head. Don't make it all SUPAR SECRET and let people imagine what's going to be shown. The whole film? Extended sequences? The original? Alice? Were they afraid no one would show up if they knew it was just a trailer and a t-shirt? I knew the theater was only booked for 45 minutes, so I wasn't surprised, but no one hosted it. People entered, waited an hour, the lights went down, the trailer played, everyone left. Nada. Disney definitely dropped the ball. Now I'm going to see if I can find a 70MM print of TRON and set up a screening.
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Well when I got my confirmation email saying I'd won the ticket, I had to take an uncharted flight from Finland to Heathrow Airport in London with nothing but llamas for company (they were being flown out there to replace some llamas which had recently died at the London Zoo). And then when I got to the airport, the customs didn't like my shabby look and the fact that I reeked of llama piss, so they did a strip-search on me. Embarrassing doesn't even begin to describe the experience of having a 300-pound 70 year old man touch me up in front of hundreds of people. Anyway, I managed to book a hostel for a couple of days, where a homeless man tried to have his way with me overnight (luckily I managed to extricate myself from his advances). And then when I finally get to the cinema, they leave us out in the freezing cold for two hours. A pigeon shat on my head while I was waiting in the line, so I left to go to the shops to buy some tissues to wipe it off. By the time I got back, the rest of the people who'd been lining up with me were all leaving the theatre in their Flynn Lives t-shirts with a really pissed off look on their faces. I didn't even get to see the smegging trailer!<p> So stop complaining and realise you were the lucky ones!
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i hope they will learn their lesson,and they will be more careful with their campaign.
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I hope they make a new Tron ride, that would be sickness. So yea, Solomon Kane is super brutal, imagine a foggy Hammer era horror world where everyone is becoming possessed on a level that is Linda Blair scary, fantastic.
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Consists of about 4 people for everything. They aren't given any funding whatsoever. It is crazy and the same at Universal as well.
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since godfather 2
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Yeah, the trailer itself was perfect. As soon as I saw the Recognizer, I was nine again. BAD. ASS. And the flick has style to spare. I think it's going to be something special.
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It should have been a screening of the first Tron but about 15 seconds into the end credits the screen flickers and and jumps then a voice...."it's been a long time" and BOOM, a 10 minute Tron Legacy trailer to end the evening.
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AMAZINGLY AMAZING
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anything.
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are things that were in that old script that had leaked.a site had a review of that script,and it was NOT good.let me try and find this site.
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"simply humans in spandex, rather than the ghostly creatures of light that the clever photography of the original made them"
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I was really excited for Nolan's next Batman movie until I found out that Worthington will not be playing Batman.
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Feb. 27, 2010, 4:13 p.m. CST
Just another cash in made by people with no new ideas
by SlimButNotreally
This is just the same as all the horror remakes....people cant come up with something new so they just remake something that wasnt good in the first place. Tron sucked, it just looked really cool.
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Pissed on by a llama, molested by fat ass airport security, raped by a homeless man, shit on by pigeon, and then missing the stupid trailer. That cracked me up, sounds like a bad day. Have fun in London. Actually you probably should hunker down inside somewhere in the loving arms of your homeless man.
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Instead of just giving us yet another summary of the plot from the trailer? </BR> I'm particularly interested in how it looks in IMAX, and how the 3D plays.... someone help us out!
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TRON was a fun movie, it didn't change the course of human history let alone cinema. Get a fucking grip.
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ok, I have got a full on geek woody now
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Tron was a goofy movie no one really cared about at the time that has not aged well. Why it merited a sequel is baffling.
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its interesting... the font AICN uses almost seems to be the true TRON font there
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spent an hour looking for my TRON DVD, got stoked when I found it, opened.... the main movie disc is missing. </BR> of course
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Ya know what, now that you mention it BillboeFett, I think what also left me ticked was how epically underwhelming the 3D felt. First, it's letterboxed IMAX, so it's not going to be filling the whole screen a la Dark Knight. This was to be expected, but the thing that was a serious buzz-kill was that the 3D itself was unimpressive in how it was displayed here. First, the "real world" scenes that take up about the first minute of the trailer are all completely flat. I kinda get the stylistic choice, and since it looks like 90% of the actual film will be in the TRON world, it might not be nearly as pervasively annoying as it is here. (I even had to take off the 3D glasses for a few seconds to make sure they were projecting it correctly.) Then they digital world gives some more depth... but it didn't really seem too spectacular. I'm not looking for overt, in-your-face stuff here but it really just seems like the way the TRON world looks, you don't get much of a sense of depth. Maybe it was cause I was running on fumes and couldn't see straight from the night before, but I wasn't impressed with the 3D at all.
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The ticket said 1.30 start; fine - if I get there earlier (as most people did) that's down to me. To not let anyone in to the screening before 1.55 is shitty. The trailer itself? Loved it but Avatar (as much as I don't really like) as upped the ante for this sort of thing and it came up slightly short. Olivia Wilde was hot and the disc fights / bikes are cool, but... oh, and I loved the T-shirt
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The t-shirt does glow in the dark. And under UV light, there is a secret code that gets revealed so we can watch the trailer in HD online.
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@BillboeFett: the IMAX and 3D effects were fantastic - but only for the Disney castle at the start; none of the bits used made any real use of the format or the third dimension. There *was* a brief bit of a motorbike (not a light-cycle) chase, but it was so short and switched POV so abruptly that I found it uncomfortable. Other than that, it was mostly talky and slow-paced; there was no show-case for 3D - so no in-game chases, or combat with disks flying out at the audience or anything. It could have been in 2D, to be honest.
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They could've at least run it twice. There were people in our theater who flew in from Toronto to see this. FLEW IN FROM CANADA! For a trailer and a tshirt! Harry is right. Disney half-assed this. Plus, when we were collecting our phones, some d-bag kept blowing silent but deadly farts. Horrible. To BillboeFett: Aside from the fact that the trailer looked incredible (the last trailer with this many cool colors was the teaser for The 5th Element), the 3D was surprisingly mediocre. I don't remember seeing any depth into the screen that wowed me the way AVATAR did. Mind you, I saw AVATAR in this same theater and also saw the REAL preview that FOX set up previous to it's release. THAT preview took my breath away like Tom Cruise in TOP GUN, but this was... Meh 3D-wise. In fact, the best 3D for this trailer was the green "Approved For All Audiences" screen. Kozinski! Step your 3D game up son!
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... I did someone a favour by inning tickets and not turning up to the "event" in London... All that hassle for a mere 2 min trailer! Glad I didn't go! I'd have expected something like the "Avatar Day" event, you know 10-12 mins of footage (test or otherwise) with a short intro from either the Director or Cast... Hell even a daft short "FlynnLives" Mocumentry to tie in with all the Hype they have been trying to whip up! would probably have made it worth the hassle of getting down there! Glad i didn't go now....
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its still 9 months away, so maybe they're rendering it more.. or... ?
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"the trailer itself was perfect. As soon as I saw the Recognizer, I was nine again."<p> ... for 0.55 of a second and then it cut to the next shot and then the trailer finished and I was actually 39. Fuck.
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on a whim, you've either got too much money or not enough sense.
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...including addresses, etc. if they wanted to win some PR points back *checks mail forlornly for six months*
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Apparently, this is the only other movie besides AVATAR that was shot using Jim Cameron's 3D cameras and if I didn't read that somewhere, I would never have known because the 3D was CORNY like Orville Redenbacher shot it. If THIS is how 3D will look in the hands of anyone except the King of The World, I'll just wait for AVATAR 2 & BATTLE ANGEL. I pray to sweet Jesus the "converted" 3D movies all coming out soon look better than this otherwise people are gonna start to feel ripped off. Now that I've seen the "3D" for TRON, I'm seriously considering saving 5 bucks when this comes out and just seeing it in 2D.
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...That sounds more like a threat: that way they can track you down and rub you out, so the whole shoddy mess of today can be expunged from history... Actually, I was in on my brother's two-fer ticket, so they hopefully will never reach me... Oh, and in spite of the warning note before hand, in London they didn't take away 'phones or cameras, you were just asked to switch them off. Security men watched the audience through night-vision scopes - presumably the better to see grown-ups weeping in frustration in the dark... My feeling is that if anyone *had* secretly recorded the trailer, they probably deleted it as soon as they got out of the venue.
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Feb. 27, 2010, 5:46 p.m. CST
So the 3D is underwhelming? Makes Cameron look even better
by Colt19801980
Wont be seeing this in 3D
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...the main character gets zapped and actually TURNED into a video game character (in a poor FX sequence). Stupid.
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I was disappointed with the way they did the cgi characters in the test footage we saw, particularly the faces. I was hoping they'd use the old "shoot it in black & white and animate on top of it" technique, but updated for the 21st century.<p> Instead, they went with the same old cgi faces that look like something out of Final Fantasy.<p> How do the characters look in this new trailer?!
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I thought the real-world stuff was supposed to be in 2D, and then when you go in the Tron world, its all 3D?
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it's a 3d trailer, were people gonna blurry bootleg it? seems like another good reason for hollywood to embrace 3D (and for them to support home theater 3D)... less bootlegs.
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what the hell are you talking about.. that was Jeff Bridge's real face dude
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Feb. 27, 2010, 6:17 p.m. CST
You know, in the original CLU was basically a search engine.
by Royston Lodge
In Tron Legacy, Google is evil and runs the computer world like a tyrant!!!<p> Heh heh heh . . .
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the results are usually awful. So not holding out much hope for this. Still, Olivia Wilde on a couch...
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Why would you do that?
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This TRON LEGACY nonsense reveals the more pathetic side of fanboy life. I've done some pathetic things in that vein, but nothing so terribly dumb as what some folks here are admitting to doing. <p> I'm a helpless Trekkie, but if the situation arose where I would have to pay ANY money to see a 2 minute trailer, there's no shot I'd go through with that scenario. Unless Olivia Wilde was there giving out hugs for $20 a pop, I can't justify what these poor bastards have done.
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BillboeFett: Yeah, except when they go to TRONworld, it isn't 3D either. LOL. Someone asked about the faces. Yes, its all real faces. The only face that looked CG enhanced was some version of Jeff Bridges that looks 20 years younger - and it actually looked pretty great. Everyone else was a regular non-cg person wearing a glowy suit. Olivia Wilde looked outrageously hot on that couch. Another reason they should step up the 3D. Just make her scenes pop and the rest can be 2D. Kthanx.
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Honestly, what the hell were you expecting to see? The film is 10 months away! Nobody bitched like this with "The Dark Knight" viral stuff, and it was exactly the same! And you got a free shirt out of it. That shirt is WAY more than I was expecting! Although LA fans got lucky. We saw the director do a Q&A and re-screen the trailer. That was way more than I expected!
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I wasn't expecting much more then the trailer when I went to the Toronto location this morning. The trailer was good, every sequence they showed was well shot with good use of effects. I dig the shirt I got a lot, I was happy to wear it the whole day. (as for 3D movies preventing piracy, all the pirate needs to do is place one of the lenses on the glasses over top of the lens of the camera. The polarized lens will only show the left or right image you choose, preventing the 3D from working. However, you should have a clean image that can be used.) Although they did the metal detectors at the door and all that, someone who sat directly in front of me (and did a kick ass impression of 24 from Venture Brothers) had his Black Berry out. Someone probably filmed it,most likely. Anyway, it was a good trailer. What else matters?
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in JULY '08. that left 17 MONTHS for post-production. that's a lot of rendering
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Kind of disappointed. The trailer is amazing, the 3D was on par with, if not better, than Avatar's. Still wish they could've shown more footage or at least replay the trailer. According to other reports, LA got a Q&A with the director for Tron Legacy AND for the original Tron. They got to see the trailer twice, got the tee shirt, and if you got your question answered, you got a signed poster. How come everyone else got screwed in the ass?
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http://g2u.ca/9nav4hv
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The trailer will online soon. What waste of money.
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... between "idol" and "idle"?!!! Hire a fucking editor already!!!
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Get a life.
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"The trailer—well, portions of it anyway—were in IMAX 3D, as immediately evidenced by the Walt Disney Pictures logo, which transformed into a bluish, scanlined version for authentic video game effect. The trailer opens with Sam, the son of Jeff Bridges' character Kevin Flynn, receiving word from his father's old friend Alan Bradley (Bruce Boxleitner) that he believes his father may still be alive—offering no theories that Flynn's trapped within a computer program. His evidence? A phone call from the old Flynn's Arcade, where son Sam travels—in extreme, reckless youth motorcycling fashion that should translate well to piloting a lightcycle—to seek out his father. After Sam stumbles upon the digitizer that sent the original Flynn into the virtual world where Programs fight for survival in familiar Tron arcade games. The following sequences were all quick cuts, some of them in dazzling 3D, including a stunning shot of the massive bipedal Recognizers, and more than one deadly disc being readied to throw at another Program. Along the way, brief looks at actors Olivia Wilde and Garrett Hedlund in form-fitting illuminated outfits flashed across the screen, as did two Matrix-looking potential bad guys, one fierce looking female and one David Bowie Space Oddity lookalike playing a little digital air guitar. The trailer fake-ended with a voiced over interaction between father Flynn and son. "Long time," Sam says. "You have no idea," says Flynn. The design of the characters, costumes, vehicles—like the trademark Lightcycle—all looked fantastic, including the surprisingly believable looking younger version of Jeff Bridges' Clu decked out in yellow, in contrast to his currently aged Flynn. It was really gorgeous stuff, with the trailer offering little in the way of over-the-top 3D effects, some of those effects looking unfinished. The Tron Legacy trailer gave Daft Punk fans in attendance—and there were plenty of them—a first genuine listen to some of their contributions. According to Tron Legacy director Joseph Kosinski, whatever leaks we'd heard from the soundtrack weren't authentic and that the trailer's score was specifically created for that purpose. Kosinski wouldn't confirm that Daft Punk would make cameo appearances in the film, but his avoidance of the question was confirmation enough for many of the screening's attendees. He said that the French electronic duo was heavily involved in the creation of the film, with a dozen or so creative meetings happening between Kosinski and Daft Punk. Tron Legacy's director—also responsible for the "Starry Night" commercial for Halo 3—confirmed to one fan that the video game Tron 2.0 was not considered canon in the creation of Legacy. Original Tron director Steven Lisberger accurately described the look and feel of the sequel as having a minimalist aesthetic that drew more upon the viewer's memories of what Tron looked like in 1982, rather than slavishly recreate its signature look or, worse, veer too close to Matrix territory. Kosinski was limited in what he would confirm about future Tron Legacy marketing events or whether Daft Punk would be supporting the film with shows or appearances, only saying that those things "may happen in the future." We'd keep an eye out. It looks like Disney will be aggressively and creatively marketing Tron Legacy for the next ten months. As for the Tron Legacy trailer, it's reportedly attached to the upcoming Alice In Wonderland remake."
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I would feel guilty taking $20 from someone to show them a 2 minute trailer. I don't know how these studio parasites do it. May they rot in hell!
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Feb. 27, 2010, 8:48 p.m. CST
We saw a trailer & were dispatched into the snow & beaten sensel
by Orionsangels
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Did you not see the teaser in HD? ( especially the hidden one on the flynn lives site... http://www.flynnlives.com/media/video/0xendgame.aspx ( mind the spaces ) <BR><BR> much higher quality than any other for some reason <BR><BR> There's no CGI for their faces... Maybe a tiny bit of accentuation when their helmets flicker but that was simply dudes wearing helmets man.
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last thursday morning for a special media screening in Montreal, Canada but got disapointed to be left out of anything from the TRON LEGACY trailer. Not a single frame of it....but Alice is still worth you're 15$. Most of it is perfect, besides Anne Hathaway.Felt like she didnt belong in the movie at all.
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and woo-hoo i get a t-shirt too. <p>lol. hollywood sucks.
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20? That would be about right. <BR><BR> You've got to understand, man that in 1982 ( and actually up until say... 1990ish the Tron CGI was still unsurpassed. ( Terminator 2 probably was the turning point IHMO ) Yeah the "digitizing sequence" is kind of silly, but when I was a kid we were utterly shocked and really believed Flynn could get sucked into the laser.<BR><BR> Go watch the dire straits video which was done 3 years *later* if you want to know what we were used to in the 80's. <BR><BR> Most of TRON was photographic process And 70 mm IIRC ) which is why it still holds up, in general, for most of its CGI ( the light cycles, tanks, etc ) while some CGI in movies even from the late 90's and onward more ethan a decade later, are laughably bad.
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I'll be rich!
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That "some man" was Alan from the first film. Get off my virtual lawn, kid.
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Feb. 27, 2010, 9:51 p.m. CST
Thanks to the talkbacker who knew the theater was booked for 15
by BubbaScruggs
I went in expecting exactly a trailer and hoping for a t-shirt and got exactly what I came for. I saw other people buying popcorn and drinks. I'm sure they were pissed.
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That was a serious mistake on the part of theater management. Nothing else would be starting until close to noon. Nobody wants a bucket of popcorn and drinks at outlandish prices to watch a two minute trailer. That would make the disappointment much worse, being hearded out of the theater carrying your popcorn and coke down the street.
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Everything about this project that we've seen so far has been very cool. The original Tron is not a great film but it is a very imaginative and grounbreaking one. If this one can equal the original in terms of story but get rid of the cheese and add stylish, witty dialogue to the mix, it should be an amazing ride. <br /> <br /> One of the reasons the Star Wars prequels are so unpopular with hardcore fans is that George Lucas intentionally wrote dialogue that mimicked the classical style. This, in turn, was regarded as being cheesy. Unless you've affection for old movie serials, you're just left in the dark. We're the generation that was raised with things like Pulp Fiction, Buffy and The Sopranos; genre stories with fantastic, often poetic dialogue. <br /> <br /> I wonder if Bruce Boxleitner will have a younger avatar in the film, like Jeff Bridges is getting. The movie's called "Tron", after all. And Bruce was Tron. <br /> <br /> Sigh. There has yet to be an 80's retread that hasn't been a disappointment. But the lure of revisiting one's childhood is a powerful thing. I loved Abram's Star Trek because it recast Trek in the mold of Joseph Campbell's journey and had a lot of fun in the process. Hopefully, this film can do the same for Tron. I love how they're portraying Flynn in a mythic light, his disappearance into the Tron world and his son's search.<br /> <br /> I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS MOVIE!!!
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back when ppl did all sorts of crap to see the trailer for Phantom Menace. <p>
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Thought you were going to get your ass kissed. And all you got was a lousy T-shirt. Seriously. :P
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Got up early, shoveled snow, drove in from Jersey (no good trains near me), paid for tolls, paid for parking, ran through the NYC streets (lots of pothole repair traffic slowed me getting in to the city), got an icy soaked foot by stepping off a curb into a pothole Groundhog Day style, and basically gave up most of Saturday for a short trailer that will most likely be out in a few days. The T-shirt is OK, but do I really need another T-shirt? Not really. Was hoping for a little something more - actually feared it would only be a teaser trailer. They definitely should have had tried harder - why go through all the trouble with the viral campaign and coordinating with the theaters? It's like driving cross country to see the Grand Canyon then stopping at the park entrance and buying a postcard then going home. Someone blew a great opportunity. If they didn't want to show anything more from Legacy (not even an interview or backstage or throw some concept art on the screen) they could have at least shown the original. Now I look like a fool to everybody that knew I was so excited to see whatever was being shown. Great trailer - actually got goosebumps, but a pretty lame experience.
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They should have promoted a showing of the original with a special surprise attached. I'd feel like a dope to jump through hoops just to see a trailer.
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Hilarious animated short film about David Lynch meeting George Lucas to direct Return of the Jedi: http://vimeo.com/9773538
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In Los Angeles, the director of TRON and TRON LEGACY both showed up and did a handy Q and A. Hell, I even got a REALLY nice Tron Legacy poster... Autographed even! Plus they interviewed people for the FLYNN LIVES website. As for the 3D, it was damn good. I am a VFX stereographer. It's what I do. Got a problem? 1.) Make sure to sit 50% of the way back... or further. 2.) Make sure you're watching a digital projection. 3.) Make sure you ACTUALLY HAVE depth perception. Having seen some of Alice, I gotta say, Tron has some BAD ASS 3D. Daily Bonus: The director was really nice and hung out after the show to chat, especially if you have reasonable questions!
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Feb. 28, 2010, 3:11 a.m. CST
IF it dosen't have Jet and it dosen't have Mercury, it dosen't h
by RickSlamu2
Someone said something like that once. I think it was about sone stupid space show. It probally didn't last three seasons... Becides 2.0 Was killer and it will not get one Bite?!? (Tron Humor) Hell bring back the Kernal! He was a bad ass antagonist!
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Jeses, Harry. Multi million dollar a year web site and you can't let the poster have space for a decent enuff header. Mut be a priorty that all Thoes "GREAT' Animations come first! ;)
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The Q and A with the director and the director of the OG, really were the highlights of the day. Lisberger seems like a cool hippie cat, ad the new director was a pretty rad guy. I was very impressed from the trailer, and I think Disney knows they have a Avatar like film on their hands, they just need to learn how to do a sneak peek better. If I was in London, or Toronto man - We saw the trailer twice btw.
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I sat all the way in the back dead center and have perfect vision. I sat in the exact same spot to see AVATAR and the 3D for that was spectacular. The 3D for the TRON trailer was not even close. Not even in the same ballpark. Perhaps it was just the NYC screening (we've got a great IMAX theater though), or maybe the shots were cut too fast to really absorb any depth, but the 3D was underwhelming to say the least. This happily did not take away from the trailer being incredible, but judged on 3D alone, it was sub-par. If you do this for a living and worked on this, you should be ashamed. Or at least embarrassed. To the guy who said the 3D was better than AVATAR, I don't know what to say. Plant! I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of studio plants started growing in this talkback to try and keep the hype alive. It won't matter. The trailer looks spectacular and no one will know the 3D is a gyp till it opens. So between now and then, instead of trying to convince us its great, just go back and MAKE it great. So long as the Disney marketing people who put this event together aren't involved, it still has a chance. When everyone else sees this trailer next week in Quicktime 1080p, they won't be missing anything except maybe the Tshirt.
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This is about as nostalgic a sequel as FREDDY vs. JASON. Unless this is something really special, something that can rekindle the spark like JJ's Star Trek did...then this is nothing more than bubblegum for the OLD GUYS.
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Yay!
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Those of you lucky enough to be at the LA event, please tell us what was said in the QA with the directors!
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Feb. 28, 2010, 6:46 a.m. CST
Wow harbinger have you checked out your douche-meter on imdb pro
by ITraveledBackInTimeToTeaBagAbrahamLincolnInTheFace
It is off the charts. Seems like you had a really rad day. Rid yourself of any illusions that you have any chance of worth on this planet. You are a perfect example of the bottom feeder scum that gives the whole Hollywood/L.A. scene a bad name.
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Feb. 28, 2010, 6:56 a.m. CST
BTW I am happy for all you LA folk that seemed to have a much be
by ITraveledBackInTimeToTeaBagAbrahamLincolnInTheFace
just sorry you have to deal with all important vacant assholes like harbinger that somehow think their PA job on the WB sucking sleezy producer dick has somehow has given them the right to voice any kind of opinion about anything.
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But remember, it's closer to Hollywood. It's easier to get the people in there that work there. <br><br> Like out LOST meetup group in NYC. We are sending press releases to ABC about the venue for the finale. We have over 400 ppl attending and ABC replied their sponsored event will most likely take place in LA. <br><br> But it's LA, it's where the star power is. Shit, thats where they had the Buffy series finale. <br><br> So, yeah, fuckin sucks, but hey, thats how it is out there. Why do you think they wanna move Comic Con up there or to Anaheim?
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Feb. 28, 2010, 7:53 a.m. CST
The LA thing is NOT unfair
by ITraveledBackInTimeToTeaBagAbrahamLincolnInTheFace
It is awesome that they put a little effort into one venue. Problem is they didn't do a good enough job with the rest of them. The shit stench of the weak marketing campaign is pungent for a hand full that were paying attention. A hand full that traveled respectable distance by plane, a hand full that got up early on their day off, all looking to be let in on a small piece of what most aren't even aware of. Will the whole shitty affair affect their final box office totals? No way. But why try to appeal to the hardcore fans? The small group that were paying attention to the binary numbers website bullshit. The only ones that know and care at this point that this movie is coming out, unless they are going to make a true attempt to make a connection with die them. The whole build up a couple days ago with the scavenger hunt around the world was cool in concept. It was a full day build up to a link to get tickets to whatever it was 4 or 5 venues around the world where "something" was supposed to happen. That something in all venues but LA it seems was just a fucking t-shirt and 2 minute trailer, which will go worldwide in front of Alice in a couple days. The whole thing is a hack copy of Avatar day, which was what it was, but at least was an attempt at something. Gave the diehards a small morsel of what they were looking for: to see something special, something no one else had seen. Do I really give a shit? No. But please bite me cool cat harshbinger scum thanks for your insight on what Disney thinks they have you are only spewing poop out of your butthole mouth.
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4 hours on line for a 2 minute trailer, only to be made a walking billboard. <P> I fail to see how anyone can be excited by this.
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Maybe do a GoToMeeting with the fans? This is an insult that will NOT stand.
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Feb. 28, 2010, 8:56 a.m. CST
Unfortunately BSB....
by ITraveledBackInTimeToTeaBagAbrahamLincolnInTheFace
it is an insult that will stand. The pin drop population of geeks that actually made it to any of the world wide locations yesterday have all already decided to pass their 20 bucks to the studio. These small bitchings are trivial from anyone who takes the time to will not affect their product's buzz in anyway when they begin the push at the sheep. It just makes no sense that they would waste time and dollars at this half assed attempt. I guess it is just the next step into the muck of these viral campaigns we can expect. There was a bit of "creativity" or at least effort for a second there, attempts to engage whatever fanbase was in their cross hairs outside of that boring box. Settle in for a nice string of recycled corporate hack bs that is nothing but that...recycled corporate hack bs.
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Feb. 28, 2010, 9:45 a.m. CST
I THINK THE ATTENDEES OUTSIDE OF L.A. SHOULD BE GIVEN
by BringingSexyBack
2 free passes for the movie itself. That would be, at minimum, decent value for the money and effort expended to watch a freaking 2 minute trailer.
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...with their take on current film marketing. Anyone else see their 'Wildly Popular Iron Man Trailer To Be Adapted Into Full Length Film' segment? http://tinyurl.com/6e59o6
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what? who are we bad mouthing here?
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I dunno where all this $20 going to the studio game from. I wrote '$20 round trip bus ticket.' Chill out, guys :-) Studio got nothing out of me.
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Reading more of the comments here about 'selling trailers.' Do you guys even read or just skim an article? hah.
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that probably no one born after 1983 will care about this. It's just another remake reboot sequel prequel bla bla stillbirth. The original movie - which was released almost 30 years ago, yes folks, it was really that long ago - wasn't even successful to boot with. I have no idea why anyone would like to make a Tron 2 in the first place...
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Unless I'm missing something, I'm fairly certain that the premise behind TRON makes absolutley NO SENSE WHATSOEVER. Its like Starlight Express (shudder), but with computer programs instead of trains. Given that the mystique behind computers and virtual worlds is looong gone, how are they gonna update the story so that your average nine year old doesnt turn to his Gen X dad and say "This is fucking stupid"?
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Re: dahveed1972 - You might be right, and I'm too old to know for sure, but it might be that awesome cycle scenes and a cool looking world to see might be enough for them to care without any knowledge of the original. In the end, it'll be the quality of the film that will sell it or not I think. Remember how much people were naysaying AVATAR before it came out based on the design aesthetic? That turned out pretty well because the movie was such a great experience. If TRON 2 comes close, it'll be a success I gather. But honestly, I don't give a crap whether it is successful or not. I'm just happy it's being made and looks to be on the right track (minus the mediocre 3D) visually so far. Wait til you see the trailer. They set up the premise as something pretty big. Seems whatever Flynn has been working on within TRONworld will change medicine, science and RELIGION. Could be mind bending ala Matrix. Especially since the original had a very important underlying theme of religion: Programmer becomes virtual in a world where Programmers are worshiped as unseen "Gods". He saves the day by sacrificing himself and "dying" to save virtual world = Jesus comes to earth as a man and saves the world by dying. I'm not sure everyone who saw the original picked up on that, but watch it again. It was The Matrix before the The Matrix - which has the exact same premise.
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Feb. 28, 2010, 1:31 p.m. CST
It's not Disney's Fault you're a Delusional Dumbass
by cymbalta4thedevil
What were you people expecting? The film is nowhere near finished yet. You got a FREE screening of a Trailer you would have had to pay to see even if it does come out a week later, and a FREE T-Shirt. Boo Fucking Hoo if you bought Popcorn and Cokes. And if you bought a plane ticket to get there you're a FUCKING MORON.<br /><br />If someone finds a pristine director's cut of Orson Welles version of MAGNIFICENT AMBERSONS, that might, I repeat MIGHT get me on an airplane. As someone said above me earlier, Anyone who is able to fly to another city to watch a 2 minute TRON LEGACY trailer either has too much money or too little common sense.<br /><br />The whining of Geeks who think they're entitled to something because they have enough free time to waste following an internet scavenger hunt or however the fuck these people got FREE passes to this thing is ludicrous. You got what you paid for. Oh, you didn't pay anything? Then: SHUT THE FUCK UP!
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Feb. 28, 2010, 1:35 p.m. CST
So there is a good deal of Boxleitner (who happens to be Tron)
by picardsucks
Haven't seen much of Captain Sheridan in this yet. He is Fucking Tron after all. Will the new Tron generation all be useless overlyparented slackers who think the computer world owes them something special too?
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Feb. 28, 2010, 1:49 p.m. CST
Re: It's not Disney's Fault you're a Delusional Dumbass
by Mr_SugarPants
Dude, you're sort of right, but also sort of wrong. Yes, a free Tshirt is always awesome and yes, the whole thing was indeed free, BUT many of us spent many hours to get to this thing. I woke up at 7am to get to the theater at 9am in order to get good seats for the 10am "screening" and I was actually IN New York. I wasn't expecting a full screening as I know there is no way the film is complete being that the release date is almost a year away. <br> <br> HOWEVER, I WAS expecting to see more than just the standard trailer. Or at the very LEAST see an extended trailer that will not be seen anywhere for a while - like the Comic-Con footage that took months to make it online. For me personally, it was a 3 hour investment for 2 minutes worth of entertainment. As for people having to pay to see it next week in front of ALICE IN WONDERLAND - that isn't true either. The following Monday it'll probably be released as a hi-def quicktime and because the 3D aspects were wack, people at home will not have missed out on much. <br> <br> It was like taking a hot girl on an expensive date (time = money) only to get a "Thanks! I had a great time!" at the end. Not even a peck on the cheek. That shit is not cool son. You might argue "Well you got to go out on a date with Olivia Wilde! Stop yer bitching!" That would be a valid argument if she didn't go out with all your friends the very next week except they didn't have to take her out to Per Se for dinner. AAaaand your douchey buddy in LA got to spend twice as much time with her (they screened the trailer 2x in LA) and got a blowjob at the end (Director Q&A plus autographed posters). If Olivia Wilde gave your douchey buddy in LA a blowjob and you got a "Thanks! You're awesome!" but you both spent the same amount to take her out, you'd be pretty tight too my n*gga.
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For that I would wait on line for 4 fucking years. That's right. 4 years.
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The amount we geeks love to argue...I think I've figured out why the majority of us are greasy-haired shut-ins.
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I'm a right suave motherfucker,me.
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You 'pwned' me
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I've never heard an entire cinema theatre sigh before. The London IMAX's poor time management made me and my friend late for the football match, too. I want my 32 minutes back.
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Its a gimick. But i guess there will be a 2d version - or I'll do without.
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If you're a huge fan and have been waiting almost 30 years for this film. The Tron fanbase is like the SW fanbase on much smaller scale. Much silliness occurred in 1999 to catch glimpses of TPM, and that was only a 16 year wait. I'm no big Tron fan, but I can understand geek desperation. If a direct sequel to, say, Blade Runner was imminent I would gladly pay $20 to be the first to see the trailer.
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i've been looking for a match for a couple of years now, anyone play this at all?
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Your post was amusing and I get your point. But I live an hour from an Angelika Theatre and I'm on their email list. There are DOZENS of Free Preview Screenings that I get emails for that I never go to because a)they interfere with my work schedule or b)I don't want to drive an hour to go see a movie that will be playing around the corner from me 3 days later or c)risk not getting there in time to get in since they send out more emails than they have seats available.<br /><br /> And that's for an ENTIRE MOVIE. I can't imagine flying or taking a bus to another city or even getting up early on a Saturday having NO IDEA what I was going to see just so I could be the first person on my block to say I saw whatever it was. Something related to TRON LEGACY?<br /><br />People expecting a half hour of footage or behind the scenes special or a free screening of the original movie or Olivia Wilde to take a day off of shooting HOUSE or Jeff Bridges to interrupt his Oscar campaign to show up in YOUR THEATER for a movie that doesn't come out for ANOTHER TEN MONTHS are either Sad or Silly. Or Both.<br /><br />If Disney pulled this a few weeks from December 17 THEN you could cry foul. I don't recall James Cameron showing AVATAR footage to anybody almost a YEAR before the release date. Be thankful for what you guys got. And once again, none of you paid to get in.<br /><br />If they'd given you Bruce Boxleitner and a box lunch half of you would still be bitching.
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If any of you ever get banned BruceBoxleitner&aBoxLunch would make a cool new Talkback name.
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Ya never know what yer gonna get with these things. With all the test screenings for the Scott Pilgrim movie recently you just get curious. Be that as it may...I would have gladly paid a $50 bus ticket to see a Scott Pilgrim trailer!
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would also make a cool Talkbacker name...
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@jock123 - don't worry brother of mine, you may have got in on my ticket, but I will sell you out to the Mouse Police faster than you could possibly imagine.
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Why is everyone getting so pumped for this shit?
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cymbalta4thedevil: Dude, technically it would've been a boxed breakfast. And that would TOTALLY have made it better. Esp if it had like chicken nuggets shaped like light cycles with glowing dipping sauce that tasted like grape juice. Instead, I went home, sat on my bed with the faded Star Wars bedsheets and cried into my hairy palms. My whole life I've felt like a winner, but yesterday, Disney rudely pulled the wool from my eyes and exposed me as a sad loser. I hate you Disney! I wish I'd never been born!
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They knew exactly what they wanted and they gave exactly what they wanted to give and got exactly what they wanted back. You think these guys respect the ticket buyers? EEEEYAHAHAHAHH!
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they ain't got a CLU. and no, they don't read the posts
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We here in Madrid knew the trailer would be two minutos. This is why we did not participate with El Marketing Viral. Ole.
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It was a bit of a let down, however I did have the fact that it could just be the trailer at the back of my mind before I went. I did manage to snag 2 of the t-shirts... so thats a bonus.
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The Recognizer looked BADASS!
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...if the studio TOLD people what they were attending. They didn't, so it was left to everyone to imagine what was going on and the result was a big let down for everyone. Someone should get fired because this was a PR bomb and not what they were looking to achieve.
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You aren't clever, you aren't witty, you aren't funny. You contribute NOTHING.
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There was a time when they were considering converting The Wizard of Oz to 3D - and only the parts IN OZ where to be converted. It seems to me that in THIS MOVIE, only the bits in THE GRID will be in 3D. Maybe that's where some people had issues. But it's more of a stylistic choice, I'd guess. Anyhow, here's a link the Q and A session, as per KOTAKU: http://kotaku.com/5481958/an-eyes+on-sneak-peek-at-tron-legacy-in-3d
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... and I'm older than you fuckface...
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Look, I'm sure Daft Punk is an awesome duo. This is no reflection on them. However, the music of Tron is as iconic as anything else in it. Lisberger is back. Bridges and Boxleitner are back. It would be nice to have Carlos involved at least in discussing how the old themes make a return.
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I have one fear for this film. I know the character of Tron returns, which makes me happy. However, I am afraid that the film is going to evoke the hoariest trope out there: where he shows up, gets kills, and passes on his mission to a new character. Fucking cliche. It reminds me of the Shaft remake, where the original script called for Samuel L. Jackson and Richard Roundtree teaming up to kick ass together. That would have been great. Instead, idiot producers demanded that the end only focus on Jackson, which led to a very generic faceoff. If you're going to bring back the old blood, find a way to make them as relevant and central to the whole film and not just serve a series of "setting the stage" roles.
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Though there have been missteps. No Wendy Carlos involvement--seriously, an updated version of the original Tron score for the credits? How hard would that be? And it'd be a great marketing announcement. <br><br> And the trailer "events". How hard would it have been to come up with a 10 minute special on the live-action photography or a 10 minute clip from the film, or a ten minute video roundtable with Jeff Bridges and Bruce Boxleitner? Seriously?<br><br> And how hard would it have been to have a few wnd or 3rd tier actors from the original film and the new film to show up at each location and say a few words and answer a few questions and pose for some photos? And how hard would it have been to show the trailer twice? Seriously?<br><br> If I had gone to one of these stupid things, saw the trailer twice, and then got a chance to see RAM or YORI reminisce about the original movie? I'd be down with that.<br><br> There had better be a RAM cameo in this movie. They owe him that. That's all I'm saying.
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And I loved it. But I had a geeky thing for computers, and when I found out Disney was making a film about getting sucked into the computer world, I was stoked. I couldn't wait for it. Went to see it early on in it's first release, watched it dozens of times on cable. eventually got it for the Betamax. I loved that film.<br><br> I still like it. Is it Gone With the Wind or Casablanca? No. But I still like the film, and I can still watch it, remembering that it was pre-Matrix, pre-Neuromancer, pre-cyberspace. I love it for what it was.<br><br> Would I care as much about it had I seen it at 20? No. Probably not. But, with nostalgia, timing is everything.
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I remember asking someone back in junior high if he had seen TRON and he said to me, "Twice!" I bought the soundtrack on vinyl way back when.
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As I've mentioned in other talkbacks, in the original movie CLU was basically a search engine like Google Desktop, and TRON was a security monitor like Microsoft Defender.<p> So, it makes sense to me that CLU could go rogue once he's indexed all the data on the network. He's the only one who knows where everything is on the network. That's a lot of control for one program!<p> TRON might discover that CLU has become tyrannical about how much access to the data he's willing to dole out.<p> TRON might embody the philosophy that "Information Wants To Be Free." While CLU embodies the idea that a good-intentioned program could be used for evil, like a parody of Google's "Do No Evil" mission statement.
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...is that CLU is an old piece of software that was dormant for years but somehow became active again and started wreaking havok. The modern security programs can't deal with him because he's too old and they're incompatible. Hell, maybe they can't even see him!<p> So, what do you do when one piece of "Legacy Code" is wreaking havok? You break out another piece of "Legacy Code" to fight him - and thus TRON is brought out of retirement.<p> The movie's title would make more sense if this was the basic plot.
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MisterManReturns, why are you here? This is a talk back for the Tron Legacy Trailer…nobody cares what you think about the original. You are not the target demographic here…A new film is coming out with an exceptionally talented young director. If you look at his online portfolio you would see why this project is a big deal (regardless of what ones opinion is on the 80s film). Spare us your pearls of wisdom about film school in the 80s, I can't think of anything less relevant.
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...but of course it feeds my fear (expressed above) that they're going to bring back Tron and then do some trite like "kill" him so that they can have all the focus on Flynn's son (especially something poor like "now...you're Tron..."(dies)). I'd prefer them to go for the marriage of old and new, and have Tron be as important to the story/endgame as any new character.
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They're "De-Aging" Boxleitner as well as Bridges, so Tron should still be a vital part of the movie. But the original movie was told through Flynn's eyes and the new movie will be told through his son's.<br /><br />The real question is WHY they haven't given the MILFtastic Cindy Morgan even a CAMEO in this thing?! It's a glaring omission to fans of the original. She looked great in that FLYNN LIVES T-Shirt online recently. Can't remember where I saw that story...
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