Roger Ebert Headed
To Tuesday’s OPRAH!!
I am – Hercules!!
Roger Ebert, who can’t really talk anymore thanks to losing a good portion of his jawbone, will nonetheless be chatting with an old friend and fellow Chicagoan on Tuesday’s edition of “Oprah.”
Ebert, who “speaks” by typing into devices these days, indicated in a fascinating Feb. 16 Esquire profile that he has abandoned efforts to restore his ability to talk, which suggests his long anticipated return to reviewing movies on TV won’t be happening anytime soon, if at all.
His old show at Disney-ABC, which began in 1986 as “Siskel & Ebert & The Movies,” then evolved into “Siskel & Ebert,” “Roger Ebert & The Movies,” “Ebert & Roeper and the Movies,” “Ebert & Roeper,” and “At The Movies With Ebert & Roeper,” is now called “At The Movies” and hosted by fellow print critics Michael Phillips and A.O. Scott.
In the Esquire article, there’s a shocking story about Ebert’s discovery that the old “Siskel & Ebert” set, which he believed was going to be relocated to the Smithsonian Institution, wound up broken up and tossed into a dumpster behind his old studio.
Find all of the Boston Globe’s story on Ebert’s “Oprah” appearance here.
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Feb. 26, 2010, 7:53 p.m. CST
good article in esquire btw
Feb. 26, 2010, 7:53 p.m. CST
because that would be lame.
Roger Ebert is a national treasure. I'll definitely catch this. It's nice to know that his health has not impaired his always-stellar writing.
Feb. 26, 2010, 7:59 p.m. CST
I know he catches heat for being too generous with his reviews nowadays (which he is), but the guy is one hell of a writer. This illness has thrown his writing into the spotlight where it belongs. His blog is truly outstanding.
Feb. 26, 2010, 8:05 p.m. CST
He is a great critic! I wish that he wouldn't lose hope in regard to restoring his ability to speak. After all, miracles still happen.
Feb. 26, 2010, 8:08 p.m. CST
The story goes that they went on a few dates at the time when Oprah was considering taking her show into syndication. Ebert advised her to do just that.
Feb. 26, 2010, 8:10 p.m. CST
Like how upset he got when Disney pulled his tribute to Siskel off of youtube because of a "rights violation." I credit Ebert and Siskel with igniting my interest in films beyond Star Wars....and Ebert is going out like a CHAMP.
Feb. 26, 2010, 8:21 p.m. CST
If that happened to me, I'd curl up into a pathetic ball and start asking my friends who was going to give me the "assist." Ebert's a pretty brave dude.
Feb. 26, 2010, 8:21 p.m. CST
by Ronald Raygun
Ebert is definately one of those "you don't realize how much they mean to you until they're gone" figures for me. Sad to think I haven't seen him on tv since late 2005. I was kinda hoping he'd come back to his show with a Stephen Hawking-style voice box.
Feb. 26, 2010, 8:27 p.m. CST
by Onin Solstice
I think Oprah's likes marching out deformed freaks for ratings. Like Barnum's but with middle aged homemakers.
Feb. 26, 2010, 8:30 p.m. CST
I've always considered myself a fan of Roger Ebert's. I've enjoyed his TV shows...his writing...his appearances on Howard Stern. Recently, I happened across the Esquire article and was shocked. Somehow, over the last several years, this story has completely eluded me. How does that happen?
Feb. 26, 2010, 8:41 p.m. CST
and all their shows that followed. When I saw that pic, I wept. Bless you Mr Ebert.
Feb. 26, 2010, 8:58 p.m. CST
by Eternal Watcher
This is the interview to see, and the first time I had a reason to see Oprah, well, ever!
Feb. 26, 2010, 9:03 p.m. CST
Now he spends his time putting up bitter, unhinged political rants on his twitter account.
Feb. 26, 2010, 9:20 p.m. CST
Damn, that's just a depressing read. Had no idea he was using a Stephen Hawking method to talk. Really sad, he's probably the last critic with any name recognition for most of us.
Feb. 26, 2010, 9:27 p.m. CST
I totally agree. If that's the way that Oprah is going to treat her guests then good riddance. She treated that woman with no respect. She unveiled her like a damn circus freak. Granted, the woman's new "face" makes her look like a Fraggle, but there's no reason to play sideshow barker. <p> <p> Roger Ebert deserves much better than that sort of treatment. I read the Esquire article and was pretty sad by the whole thing. It was more or less a eulogy for somebody who's still living. Respectfully written, but still sad.<p> <p> As far as Ebert the critic goes, I rarely tended to agree with him Siskel & Roeper generally had less assuming sort of movie preferences. Ebert, as respected as he is, always has the tendency to thumb his nose at movies that are plain, dumb fun. He also has this Harry-like tendency for proclaiming really bad movies as really good. <p> <p> To each his own. I may not share his movie preferences, but you have to give respect where its due.
Feb. 26, 2010, 9:38 p.m. CST
by The Chalk Outline
Was never much of a fan until back when I found out we were originally a part of the few who loved Dark City before it came out on video.
Feb. 26, 2010, 10:45 p.m. CST
by Anything But Tangerines
Feb. 26, 2010, 10:55 p.m. CST
...was Ebert's reaction to the discovery that his video tribute to Siskel had been nuked by Disney due to copyright infringement. (I won't bother trying to explain any more here. Go read the article, if you haven't already.) The piece doesn't say whether that ever got sorted out. I hope it did.
Feb. 26, 2010, 11:06 p.m. CST
by Toby Wan
in 1979! We used to watch on Saturday afternoon to figure out what we wanted to watch at the theatre that night.
Feb. 26, 2010, 11:35 p.m. CST
Herc cartoon is not appropriate? Yeah I don't either.
Feb. 27, 2010, 12:24 a.m. CST
are totally not needed. herc's has always been my least favorite. they'd be better off using their real names; they're hardly insiders that need to protect their identities as reported in the late 90's.
Feb. 27, 2010, 12:53 a.m. CST
...yeah i'm probably going to hell.
Feb. 27, 2010, 1:07 a.m. CST
by Darth Melkor
I love his thoughts on movies. But 90% of his tweets are about how dumb he thinks Republicans are. I don't care what a movie critic's political views are. I'm following you to get your thoughts on, you know, movies.
Feb. 27, 2010, 1:43 a.m. CST
I watched their shows all the time and made me me love movies.
Feb. 27, 2010, 2:49 a.m. CST
It's very unfortunate what has happened to him, but he is still as relevant and entertaining film critic as ever. I've always tended to agree with him, and when I haven't his articles are so well written I can usually understand his critique, or at the very least am entertained. His recent write up of "Valentine's Day" had me cracking up.
Feb. 27, 2010, 2:58 a.m. CST
Has too much chin. Maybe he can donate some to Ebert?
Feb. 27, 2010, 3:10 a.m. CST
Isn't that just a TAD arrogant as all fuck, to think that his studio set would grace a national museum? <p>
Feb. 27, 2010, 4:05 a.m. CST
I definately respect this guy on a high regard, but man sometimes I find myself questioning his reviews and opinions.(Back in the 80's he gave escape from ny a thumbs down , yet he thought EFLA was a go for broke extranvaganza?!?)<p>Beyond the valley of the dolls(which he wrote) is one of the worst vintage films I have seen in my fucking life.And yes, Videogames is a form of art just like movies, music,etc.<p>I give him props for refusing to go on the Arsenio Hall show after Assholio had Farrakhan on the show.(Ebert's wife is Black, but he's no bleeding heart apologist that would tolerate louie's racist rhetoric.)all in all,He's a great guy and I wish him all the best.Such a damn shame that he has to suffer from this damn disease when pricks like Dubya is still walking around unscathed.No Justice in the World I tell ya.
Feb. 27, 2010, 4:19 a.m. CST
by Lenny Nero
His show was absolutely groundbreaking, and completely changed the way we as a nation viewed film criticism.
Feb. 27, 2010, 4:23 a.m. CST
by Bass Ackwards
I wonder if they've finally collected enough samples for Ebert to use the voice tech mentioned in the Esquire article?
Feb. 27, 2010, 4:29 a.m. CST
by Bob Loblaw Law Blog
He was TOLD the set was going to The Smithsonian. <p>From the Esquire article:<p>"The end was not pretty, and the break was not clean. But because Disney was going to change the original balcony set as part of its makeover, it was agreed, Ebert thought, that the upholstered chairs and rails and undersized screen would be given to the Smithsonian and put on display. Ebert was excited by the idea. Then he went up to visit the old set one last time and found it broken up and stacked in a dumpster in an alley."
Feb. 27, 2010, 5:44 a.m. CST
by Gogo Bananas
has improved a million fold since it became his only means of communication. Not movie review writing - writing about everything. Can you imagine how completely fucked Knowles would be if his only way to make the world understand him was the slop he churns out?
Feb. 27, 2010, 6:51 a.m. CST
It seems I agreed with him less and less in the past 10 years. The role of the critic seems to be to work from worst to best. That is asking themselves: "What are the flaws of this movie" not it's strengths or entertainment values. That is also jaundiced by watching so many movies, that some remakes and genre films get zero chance critically. This is diametrically opposed to why the majority of the movie public sees movies. They go to enjoy first, and not focus on the flaws. Even critics laud films that most people would hate.
Feb. 27, 2010, 7:12 a.m. CST
and a great credit to his character that he has endured so much pain and suffering. I would have put a shotgun to my head rather than have my jaw removed. Although he is incredibly naive from a political standpoint, he was/is a damn good movie reviewer, and I have always valued his opinions on that front. Hope he finds the peace he is looking for,
Feb. 27, 2010, 7:19 a.m. CST
I love the idea that he's got thousand of hours of his voice to pick from so they can customize a computer voice synthesizer with his own voice.<p>Sadly, using that device with his own voice wold be the only excuse for him to go on TV. Really, a man who can't speak and is, well, uncomfortable to look at? Sorry, but you can only wear a turtleneck and a scarf up so high before you start dressing like The Shadow.<p>That thought expressed, everything I've read of his this century has been brilliant and thought provoking. And who the hell reads Twitter?
Feb. 27, 2010, 8:26 a.m. CST
I tried to catch his show every week and read his reviews on a regular basis. I always respected his opinion even if I didn't agree with it all the time. Even loved his dark city commentary. I knew he was sick, but thats all I knew, so this is all a shock to me.
Feb. 27, 2010, 8:48 a.m. CST
...and interesting taste in women.
Feb. 27, 2010, 8:48 a.m. CST
Feb. 27, 2010, 8:52 a.m. CST
...More machine now than man, twisted and evil. I like Ebert, best of luck to him.
Feb. 27, 2010, 9:20 a.m. CST
The Smithsonian is massive in scope. Many pop culture exhibits are within. For example, Archie Bunker's chair, Joe Louis' boxing gloves, the ruby slippers from Wizard of Oz...
Feb. 27, 2010, 9:23 a.m. CST
by Jack Black
Subscribed to his twitter and was surprised how many of his tweets were political "rants." That's his right of course, but was saddened at how bitter they were. As someone posted elsewhere, it's like a projectionist mixed up the reels of "Regarding Henry."
Feb. 27, 2010, 10:18 a.m. CST
And, he likes movies "diametrically opposed to the majority." Wah-wah!<P>You have no idea why "most people go to the movies." You only know why you and your friends go. It's an insulting assumption that we get an endless stream of useless, mindless blockbusters because we all want them. And it is beside the point. Critics don't exist to perpetuate or validate some kind of popularity contest. That's what the Public Relations industry is for. Critics express their personal evaluations. That's it. The simple fact that they've seen more movies than you ever will makes their opinions more informed, and, because they are professional writers, their ability to form sentences is probably better than yours. Why is it assumed they should agree with you? You might be stupid. Whatever, the key is, critics are opinionated. That's exactly why they're interesting.<P>As to Ebert's political "rants"...aw, shucks did he hurt your feelings? He's a dying, speechless man using the power of written words to persuade. It seems to me, he's entitled - as is anyone who can write - to write about anything he wants. Imagine being limited in your final years on the planet to thoughts about superhero movies and James Cameron's press releases. Talk about wasting time!<P>Roger Ebert has a mind, a forum to express it, and a devoted readership that remains actively engaged with him on his blog. Unlike most right-wing writers, he encourages opposing views. He can take them apart with surgical precision, or he can be as snarky as the next guy. He is, after all, one human being expressing his opinion.
Feb. 27, 2010, 10:34 a.m. CST
i still find that his are vastly more substantiated. i wish i could take in cinema the way he does.
Feb. 27, 2010, 10:36 a.m. CST
Yours is probably the best post I've ever seen on AICN. I wish there were more sensible people like you, who can at least consider an alternative opinion, and not be so threatened by it. I also respect very much the posters on this thread who can politely "agree to disagree" with another opinion, when said opinion is well thought out and articulated.
Feb. 27, 2010, 10:40 a.m. CST
comparing ebert's writing to harry's is like comparing apples to a piece of shit.
Feb. 27, 2010, 10:42 a.m. CST
"... for Ain't It Cool News leans against the far wall."<p>"Used to"? I seem to remember reading one of his reviews just this week. Or is the Capone we see these days not the original Capone? Is that the reason why reviewers around here still go by pseudonyms? Writers can come and go but the reviewers stay the same?
Feb. 27, 2010, 10:52 a.m. CST
Cop and a Half and Speed 2: Cruise Control...enough said.
Feb. 27, 2010, 11 a.m. CST
Great article, too. Gots to love Esquire...
Feb. 27, 2010, 11:02 a.m. CST
Everyone knows Herc is replaced every few years by a new 14 year old girl. I guess the same thing is done with the Capone character as well.
Feb. 27, 2010, 11:11 a.m. CST
are wingnut fucks<p> and as wingnut fucks have destroyed this country and hate everything it stands for, their opinion means nothing<p> mr ebert is a national treasure and all you fucks should worship the ground he walks upon<p> and eff disney too
Feb. 27, 2010, 11:15 a.m. CST
What a bunch of douchbag fuckers! Fuck you, Disney & ABC! Corprations have no heart and no sense of history or culture. Fucking douchbags.
Feb. 27, 2010, 11:16 a.m. CST
before there was the net, before people rushed to the theater to watch trailers (in those days, everyone showed up late because they hated the trailers), before everyone and their grandmother became a critic, ebert and roeper were educating the populace about the movies<p> his show was the only place you could see clips<P> agree or disagree with his opinion, his reviews remain educational and thoughtful
Feb. 27, 2010, 11:34 a.m. CST
most people that come here are aware that AICN isnt the best place to get all the latest movie news anymore. but the reason we never leave is because of the talkbacks. you can say everyone here is an asshole, but thats part of the fun.<br><br>basically a talkback is a place where hundreds of movie geeks all want to give their opinion at the same time. the only way to do that is yell over each other... and if you disagree with someone, you can't just say "let agree to disagree.." you have to call that person an ignorant asshole, that deserves to be raped by a mad cow. this is the way it works... and harry knows this, thats why he RARELY moderates the talkbacks even though he's ripped on (rather hatefully) more than anyone on here.<br><br>wanna have fun? go read any random talkback, and imagine its a discussion happening in real life. about 200 movie geeks in a room yelling over one another thinking anyone really cares about their opinion (or that having a well thought out opinion will make them respected.) the only time anyone really agrees with anyone else here is when someone already said what they wanted to say, and they want credit for that nugget of wisdom too. <br><br>i love this place.
Feb. 27, 2010, 11:39 a.m. CST
They pulled down the BSG sets at the end of production. <P> Why not action them off for charity with the stipulation that hey could never be filmed again?
Feb. 27, 2010, 12:12 p.m. CST
Capone addressed this in one of his reviews I believe. According to him, Esquire fucked up
Feb. 27, 2010, 12:33 p.m. CST
It's not a matter of him disliking Videogames as I could give two shits less.But to say it's not an art form is somewhat baseless.As for the rest of your overly defensive rant it seems that you are looking to pick a fight there Subby.<p>If you wanna get pissed off at someone, try Vincent Gallo who wished Cancer on both Siskel and Ebert for critiqing his films.<p>Nerds, I tell ya.
Feb. 27, 2010, 12:33 p.m. CST
But I still think he inserts his politics where it doesn't belong. Every movie with a scene in a hospital doesn't need to devolve into a discussion of healthcare reform.
Feb. 27, 2010, 1:09 p.m. CST
...why can't they do the same with a jawbone for poor Rog Ebert? Dammit! medical Establishment! Invent the prosthetic jawbone already!
Feb. 27, 2010, 1:26 p.m. CST
which is alls you needs to watch movies
Feb. 27, 2010, 1:55 p.m. CST
by The Dum Guy
I went to his website and it took me a minute to realize that was him in the photo of him with Oprah.
Feb. 27, 2010, 2:06 p.m. CST
Which appeared in that Iconic irish kids show was for years left abandoned at the back of rte studios in montrose for decades. where it was rained on and nearly destroyed by bad weather. It now sits as a tourist piece in the puppet theatre founded by the late great Eugene Lambert in 1972. It was completly restored.
Feb. 27, 2010, 3:25 p.m. CST
condition.i wish him the best.and guys we might have are hateful talkbacks,insulting each other because we dont love or hate the same movies,but all these things are trivia,are nothing.Other things in our lives are the only important ones,like our health.these things matter.
Feb. 27, 2010, 3:48 p.m. CST
http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2010/02/roger_eberts_last_words_cont.html Great article as a follow up to the Esquire piece.
Feb. 27, 2010, 4:08 p.m. CST
I still like Siskel better.
Feb. 27, 2010, 4:25 p.m. CST
by DARTH VOODOO
Hats off to Roger Ebert for continuing to live a productive life when he could have just sat around and felt bad for himself. Mr Ebert (as well as Gene Siskel) contributed as much to my love of film as any movie star or film director. Roger Ebert is an inspiration for people facing adversity of any type.
Feb. 27, 2010, 4:31 p.m. CST
You are showing your age! Prior to At the Movies,,,, PBS "Sneak Previews" The show that started it all end of line......
Feb. 27, 2010, 5:11 p.m. CST
by AL bino
The brief, but entirely too long, takeover by the Two Bens (Lyons and Mankiewicz) was pretty damn painful. Mankiewicz was okay for the most part, but Lyons was like a fluff studio mouthpiece who cringed any time a movie was anything more interesting that Dr. Dolittle 2. <br> <br> Not to mention that he was practically an identical clone of Nick from Nick * Starr on The Amazing Race a few seasons ago.
Feb. 27, 2010, 7:51 p.m. CST
Max Wright. Not the hairy guy from Melmac.
Feb. 27, 2010, 8:03 p.m. CST
No asshole, I don't follow or care what Eberts poltics are. Nor do I want to butt-fuck him like you obviously do. What person went to see star wars and walked out and said "That was nothing more than a pinball game for the eyes." About 1% of the people that saw it. Ebert had some fucked up tastes and bullshit opinions on movies people like. He has recommended so many movies that are a snorefest you'd need a huge database for his misses. We could always see "inframan" as he recommended. Ooh, that's sophisticated. He justifies his shit taste by calling them "guilty pleasures" while he takes pleasure in derailing movies that happen to be popular. So get your nose out of his critical ass. His word is a fucking opinions (like your moronic self), not the carved-in-concreete truth. They are just opinions.
Feb. 27, 2010, 8:26 p.m. CST
I worked at a Chicago production studio in the early 90's and Siskel&Ebert and jumped ship to a different production facility. Our Production facility ended going out of business and I grabbed those chairs from the dumpster. Shit they may be worth money but I'd never sell em. That show had such a huge impact on my love of movies and say what you will but Ebert can write. Siskel was a moron. He was a sportswriter and really didn't care all that much about film and it's history.
Feb. 27, 2010, 8:52 p.m. CST
He hasn't tasted food in over 4 years and probably won't ever again for the rest of his life. He's fed with a tube connected to his stomach. He's ok though. He's head without the use of a mouth, other than that. It's Ebert.
Feb. 27, 2010, 10 p.m. CST
by frank cotton
his book YOUR MOVIE SUCKS is excellent. hate that this happened to him. 'powerring' - not worth my time
Feb. 27, 2010, 10:20 p.m. CST
But got to cut him some slack..he has always been a fine writer and his courage through his illness and current condition is inspiring..cool mofo.
Feb. 27, 2010, 10:25 p.m. CST
"The man's got great courage...and interesting taste in women"---What the hell is that supposed to mean? Because his wife is black and he's not? Why is that interesting and the fact that peanut butter and jelly go well together not? Isn't that more odd? Or are you being a racist?
Feb. 27, 2010, 11:20 p.m. CST
by evil dead 3d
and his site is amazing you all should check it every day he has badass reviews, funny movie rules all us geeks can glom, and even a blog, he is very very productive it's amazing.. rogerebert.suntimes.com every single day bitches, bruce campbell out...
Feb. 28, 2010, 1:56 a.m. CST
by Chief Joseph
When Ebert would get too pompous or recommend a stinker, Siskel was there to knock some sense in him (See Cop & a Half review!) and vice-versa. When they actually agreed on something you knew it was worth checking out. <br><br> BTW, I read that his new voice synthesizer (using his real voice) is supposed to debut on Oprah.
Feb. 28, 2010, 1:57 a.m. CST
I'm sorry...I'm sorry. I actually do feel bad for Ebert. There is a nice spot in hell waiting for me.
Feb. 28, 2010, 1:58 a.m. CST
When Drew Brees was on her show he mistook his facial birthmark for lipstick or something and tried to wipe it off. Hopefully she's a bit more prepared and doesn't make everyone uncomfortable.
Feb. 28, 2010, 1:59 a.m. CST
SHE mistook his facial blah blah blah
Feb. 28, 2010, 2 a.m. CST
by Chief Joseph
I don't know what "interesting taste in women" means exactly either, but Ebert only dated powerful black women. (Yes, he dated Oprah.) His wife was a lawyer. Maybe that's what he meant.
Feb. 28, 2010, 2:04 a.m. CST
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Feb. 28, 2010, 5:02 a.m. CST
Some Douchebags on this site are so quick to personally attack because they don't agree with one's opinions.(Instead of agreeing to disagree.)<p>How inmature but then again one has to a self effacing dweeb to lash out at others in order to get some kinda satisfaction.Yeah, I think our friend should go back to his "Room"(i.e. pedalback) and stay there until he learns some manners. (0;
Feb. 28, 2010, 5:48 a.m. CST
is unlike tangcameo's interesting taste in internet porn and blow up dolls.
Feb. 28, 2010, 6:36 a.m. CST
everyone is now a film critic. you dont have to have a degree in english or literature with the internet vis a vis net film criticism. You can just write whatever you like in talkbacks such as this without an editor peering over your shoulder and saying I think you should take such and such out. talkabckers arent very pc.
Feb. 28, 2010, 6:51 a.m. CST
by Gogo Bananas
As the article mentions, Ebert personally reviews and posts every comment posted to his blog and often replies. I posted a comment/question to one of his blog entries that I didn't think he'd post because he might find it disagreeable. My comment appeared. How many posts in a talkback would there be if each post was inspected for quality/coherence/insight?
Feb. 28, 2010, 4:04 p.m. CST
He used to be my go-to guy in movie reviews, then the near-death experiences. Now he praises crap movies (according to other critics) so long as they align with his political views (Lions for Lambs) and rants political buffoonery (No, I don't care what side you're on, he's become the liberal Glenn Beck without the ratings). He is yet another hippie I used to like and respect (James Cameron, Jon Stewart, Al Frankin) who just went bat-shit insane under the onslaught of eight years of Repub power and apparently the specter of his own death. What kind of legacy is he leaving his grandkids if he goes out making people think he wears a tin foil hat to keep George Bush from controlling his brain? God tries to kill GWB (pretzel), Ebert (cancer), Schwarzenegger (hole in heart), Pelosi (brain dead) and Cheney (heart attacks) but Satan keeps them alive. The apocalypse must be neigh.
Feb. 28, 2010, 4:41 p.m. CST
It's not cool at all.
Feb. 28, 2010, 5:43 p.m. CST
by Gogo Bananas
Yeah, disagreeing with you about movies sure is the criteria by which the value of a human life should be judged. Particularly since you're too fucking stupid to know the difference between neigh and nigh.
Feb. 28, 2010, 5:44 p.m. CST
by Gogo Bananas
you must've been referring to the neighing of the four horsemen of the apocolypse's horsies. My bad.
Feb. 28, 2010, 6:31 p.m. CST
Roger Ebert 'ridiculously happy' after receiving new computerized voice produced from his own words. Ebert, 67, who once dated Oprah Winfrey, will appear on her show Tuesday, talking in his new - and yet also old - voice. http://tinyurl.com/ylsh2au
Feb. 28, 2010, 7:42 p.m. CST
like carbon dated her to find out her real age??
Feb. 28, 2010, 8:16 p.m. CST
Velcro action all the way.
March 1, 2010, 12:27 a.m. CST
by frank cotton
March 1, 2010, 4:15 p.m. CST
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