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Brian De Palma To Direct PARANORMAL ACTIVITY 2!?!?
Beaks here...
There are many ways to look at this, and not all of them make me want to cry.
On one hand, I'm impressed with Paramount's willingness to replace the yanked-away director of PARANORMAL ACTIVITY 2, Kevin Greutert, with one of three immensely talented filmmakers. Undeterred by Lionsgate's colossal "fuck you" (reminder: the LG gang exercised an option on Greutert, which forced him off PA2 and back into the SAW fold for the franchise's big 3-D sendoff), Paramount seems determined to make a film that will be, if nothing else, classier than any of the SAW sequels (or the initial movie itself).
But do I need to see a "classy" PARANORMAL ACTIVITY?
Depends on the script, and whether the studio is willing to make a crazy, go-for-broke ghost flick like THE ENTITY. Because if Paramount is literally ready to unleash hell, then I want nothing more than to see Brian De Palma make his first full-on horror movie since THE FURY. And unlike Steven Zeitchick of the L.A. Times, I'm not worried about the quick turnaround; De Palma replaced Gore Verbinski at the last second on MISSION TO MARS, and still managed to deliver a visually stunning picture. Since most of PARANORMAL ACTIVITY 2 will (I'm gussing) be set in one location, De Palma probably won't need more than a week of preproduction to cook up a number of bravura set pieces. This is what he does best, and it'd be a blast to see him do it again after a too-long layoff.
And yet the thought of Brian De Palma making a sequel to a gimmicky (if effective) low-budget horror movie depresses me a little. The man will turn seventy this year, and is one of the most respected directors living today (in the eyes of his peers, if not the critics). He should be doing whatever the fuck he wants. This is the kind of project you entrust to a rising talent, not the heir to Alfred Hitchcock.
But if this is what he has to do to (once again) earn his filmmaking freedom, then... please, Paramount, choose De Palma over the very capable Brad Anderson and Greg McLean. After three years of development futility (a good deal of which was centered on THE BOSTON STRANGLERS), I just want to see one of my heroes shoot a movie again. Let right be done. (And don't be shy about lobbying for your boy, Spielberg!)
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Scarface was a loong time ago.
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Depalma is good, if not great, but comparing him to fucking Hitch? Come on! Dressed To Kill was the only thing he ever made close to Hitchcock, and Dressed To Kill was a looooong time ago.
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the Black Dahlia. Great book, AWFUL film. But Id like to see a big comeback-Carrie and The Untouchables are still brilliant to this day. One last hurrah maybe?
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"Who gives a shit, who gives a fuck."
Although if DePalma can coax that big-tittied broad from the first one to actually disrobe this time, I might Netflix it someday. -
I thought that was Anthony Fuqua doing the Untouchables prequel.
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People were laughing out loud at that one in the screening I remember. Especially during the big emotional tear jerking death in space. Not even hilarious, just awful. So more like scoffing than laughing I guess. In disbelief.
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nowadays he should produce films instead of directing them.
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It's a fun piece of fluff, but the movie just isn't that fucking good. Never was.
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Was a very good film. Utterly ridiculous but in an entertaining way. An audaciously stupid plot twist that is so gloriously demented and silly that you can't help like it. Was there not supposed to be another cut of The Black Dahlia that was longer and kept more of the tone and subplots of the book?
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Because the one I saw was terrible.
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Came out in 96. He's still above this sequel?
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Katie something? I'd drag that set of magumbos out of bed any time.
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Thanks for setting us all straight on Scarface.
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Use the actual story of what occured after prohibition, Ness in Cleveland.
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and I LIKE Scarface.
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I don't care what it is, when I see his name, I get a chubby. The Untouchables is one of the best movies of its kind ever. I have a deep love for The Fury and its psychic older sister Carrie. Speaking of Sisters, how about that fucking flick! Dressed to Kill is a slice of pure awesomeness. Raising Cain is flawed but damned enjoyable. the Phantom of the Paradise. Mission: Impossible. Femme Fatale. That man knows how to entertain me, so he can be forgiven for life for all his shitty movies, of which there are numerous. I want to see this. I think it could go very well to see an old hand known for his camera flourishes to tackle something so static. Count me as excited.
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it was easily one of the worst sci fi's of the last decade. de palma made some good movies in his day, carrie, scarface, untouchables, casualties of war, carlitos way, but his recent output includes snake eyes, femme fatale and the black dahlia none of which were very good.
He much like coppola have not succesfully managed to turn their filmaking sensibilities into succesful movies for todays audiences. this wouldnt matter if their movies were great but their not great.
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Even if there was a four hour word-for-word translation of the book, it would still be an epic failure based on how they completely, utterly bungled the ending. God I was pissed when I saw that.
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that would be an awesome idea. Would love to see the Ness who becomes commissioner in Cleveland and ends up being stalked for ten years by a notorious serial killer before sinking into alcoholic melancholy. That could be some very powerful stuff.
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make a good movie allready!
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De Palma hasn't made a single movie I've liked.
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No offense to any McLeaniacs out there...
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Keep the man away!!!
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Feb 25, 2010 2:01:18 PM CST
IS this going to be a slacker, a goth chick and, like...
by jaylenotookmyjob
...a conspiracy nut, or whoever, investigating the story behind the video like the godawful Blair With 2? I'm gonna pass. The original wasn't THAT scary to begin with. Anything's scary to a stoned audience at a midnight show. Also, the chick'd huge chin fat pouch distracted me.
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is the Australian filmmaker who directed Rogue and Wolf Creek. I was not a fan of Wolf Creek, but Rogue was surprisingly good.
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That guy can't tell a story for his life. I liked PA and would like to see the further adventures of possessed Katie. But this? Does not bode well.
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I think I am the only one who liked Mission to Mars! If I see it on, I always stop and watch it. DePalma, send me some swag dammit, since I am the only supporter of that film!
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Just because Clint Eastwood made the author popular.
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And felt it to me more "realistic" then The Hurt Locker?
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Brian DePalma is pretty much a human Slot Machine. You're pretty sure it will deliver something good, so you put on the money and pull the lever. Most of the time nothing comes out. Eventually you get something back, and you quickly forget the times you got nothing. And sometimes we get stuff like "Mission Impossible", which, coming out of Brian DePalma, would be like pulling the slot machine lever and getting a steak dinner. You're puzzled by the result, but still, it's a neat prize.
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Would be a good choice. He's two for three right now. Why not Harry's butt buddy the fucker that did Spiral?
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How the fuck did they not get this asshole to come in and direct it after Greutert left? The Collector is fucking awesome by the way. You think he would have easily been the next choice.
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I finally saw this film in 70mm last year in a double feature with Vertigo, I was so amped, I'd heard so many great things about this alleged masterpiece.
My friends and I left the theater in tears from laughter. The movie was so atrociously bad as to be unintentionally comedic. From the overwrought score, the shamefully corny dialogue, the absurdly obvious Odessa Steps reference, the two-dimensional characterization, to just about every scene with DeNiro... nothing about this movie is quality. It's a joke.
How does it have this esteemed status? Please, I'm not trying to be a dick here, I'm GENUINELY CONFUSED. What is there to appreciate in this cheesefest of a movie? -
I really dislike Redacted. I can see why others might like it. It definitely delivered some realism, but I was annoyed by how close it hewed to Casualties of War. I also hated every last character, which just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Just couldn't get behind it.
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I guess its a matter or perspective. 'Cause everything you mentioned laughing at in The Untouchables is something that I think make it the masterpiece that it is. I love Ennio Morricone's percussive, moedernist score. I love Mamet's hilariously salty dialogue. I think it's one of de Niro's better performances. And the scene on the steps is one of the best action sequences ever filmed.
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but I've got to think he deserves better than having to direct a sequel to a low budget horror movie.
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did you cry when Ocho aka herbie is tossed of the ship and left to drown in the middle of the ocean. it got me everytime. and i hate bananas!
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because Exorcist 3 is awesome.
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That's a note-perfect metaphor. Kudos!
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Let's have another Cop Out thread since it is getting absolutely ABYSMAL reviews. That way we can while away the hours talking about what an untalented fatass Kevin Smith is.I was thinking about that topic since my Clerks Blu-ray just arrived in the mail.
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I mean, the premise of the fucking movie is that the camera is UNMANNED!
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near the end when superman is battling zod, Non and Ursain metroplis, superman flys and settles atop a building and zod says to the other two "wait there" and then he goes on to tell superman he's a coward etc and throws a concrete block at him. so go back a bit to the part where i said Zod tells his goons to "wait there" and i'm wondering if anyone else thinks it sounds nothing like Terence stamp who utters these 2 words. it sounds like someone completely different, like a stuntman or something. to this day i don't get it. and it annoys me more than t these baddies wearing black garbage bags for suits.
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De Palma have given us some great movies and used to be semi-reliable. It's sickening that he has to take such a soulless paycheck gig. The only emotion I feel here is pity.
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That shit made me laugh out loud
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After Black Dahlia and Redacted I have Lost all faith.....Why do all the "Masters" start sucking after a certain age? is it marriage..having children? I don't understand how when he's putting a movie together like redacted that he can possibly think its any good..the acting was absurd...and Black Dahlia perfect Depalma material...turned into laughable camp fest...except not funny...and I love camp.
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And boobs.
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and a lot of his others to, Dressed to Kill, Raising Cain, Body Double, Carlitos Way, The Untochables, all movies I'd sooner watch than most of todays shite.
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Double Body what was its name? With that super hot brunette who has in real life Miss America or something,where she got murdered with a drill.
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To me, that is far and away the best DePalma. Just an effective film from start to finish.
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do some more, im bored.
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its the only film that i liked Al Pachino as an actor.
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That movie was freaking awesome and cost nothing to make. I will take him for PA2 over DePalma. DePalma should do another MI movie.
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Feb 25, 2010 2:53:10 PM CST
M2M was a hated failure but unfairly..not great but good
by stormwatcher
I enjoyed the opening tracking shot, acting was good, the nailbiter drifting away scene was cool....wasn't bad at all. Hated for no reason as far as I am concerned. Tim Robbins all creepy calm as he takes off his helmet....Diane Lane bangable as ever....
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It's a terrible, derivative piece of shit... even for De Palma, who's been ripping off Hitchcock for much of his career.
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This makes no sense.
No wonder we're getting such shit released. The cuntrag homos running shit now are about as capable of making good movies as they are babies without the aide of heterosexual, white male scientists. -
I'm pretty sure I've read that David Fincher is trying to adapt the Ness in Cleveland / Serial Killer story.
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Feb 25, 2010 2:58:02 PM CST
I Think The Downward Spiral started with Raising Caine
by hermestrismestigus
It was after Untouchables and I was pumped cuz I thought I was gonna get old School DePalma...after you find out the first 30 minutes or so are a dream...way to piss off an audience. Then It was Snake Eyes...totally pumped and Nic Cage at his Height..sucktacular...Mission Impossible doesn't count cuz that was the producers all the way...Mission To Mars...what the fuck....but I go see everything he makes...I did love Femme Fatale...that one can go along with everything he made from 1976 thru 1987..counting out Bonfire which was embarrassing..
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It is a prime example of the limp-dick, dumbed down sci-fi Hollywood has been pumping out for the past couple of decades. Any visual attributes it possesses are greatly overshadowed by its brainless story, and completely comical set of performances by otherwise good actors.
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An excellent classic so good I forgot Depalma made it.
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Everybody I know that waited so long to see Untouchables says the exact same things you did. Everybody who saw it upon release, including me, absolutely loves it. I SO love that scene on the steps. I could care less what it referenced.
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Feb 25, 2010 3:02:25 PM CST
I have a query relating to the back to the future trilogy ...
by jackgraham
why was martys girlfriend replaced by elisabeth shue for parts 2 and 3 and why was martys dad played by crispin glover completely non existent in parts 2 and 3 when he was clearly the best thing about part 1. martys dad does make tiny brief appearances in parts 2 and 3 but you never see his face properly (remember part 2, he's upside down on some future leg brace) and it's not Crispin Glover. so much incontinuity for a series that relies on it. it annoys me.
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Another director showing his Stanley Kurbick love, only to bore the aduience to tears(even the Kubricks//2001 fans like me).Solaris (in its visual style ..at times)I felt was a nod to Kubrick as well(just 2 of the 2001 inspired sci-fi films I can think of).But Mission was BAAAAAAAAAAAAAD.(with some horrible -ass cg aliens at the end, and some horrible cg everywhere!)
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They must REALLY hate their job!That's like being called a heterosexual felch-slurper!
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Thats what I hated so much about Sunshine. Its 1/2 a wannabe 2001 and then its 1/2 a wannabe Alien. Even Moon, which I loved, just felt like another love letter to Kubrick's definitive space art house flick. Directors need to either give up on this genre or do something new with it.
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It had 2 good scenes and one of them was flat-out stolen from Eisenstein.
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directing would be the coolest thing to happen in cinema in the last decades...
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To me, at least.
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Yeah I can totally see how its a sequel to Casualties.
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Mission to Mars, with another...(sadly) nod t0 2001(with its INTELLIGENT MACHINE killing the humans off one by one....sigh...)
THE RED PLANET! Dear Directors,we LOVE 2001 too, and considering you're paid to make something we want to see, versus living out your fantasy of mounting your own version of 2001....stop fucking biting Kubrick.It's been done 7000 times already. -
..looking nowadays? Jack-Off material..back in the day..circa 1976..the year "Carrie" came out
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The only person who truly believes he is the heir to Alfred Hitchcock is Brian De Palma. What a fucking crock of shit. Get a grip of yourself, you fucking loon.
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the man brought us CARRIE, THE FURY, DRESSED TO KILL, BLOWOUT, SCARFACE, UNTOUCHABLE....All master peices in my mind....
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Brian De Palma wrote the opening crawl on Star Wars (IV)..whats that got to do w/ anything?..who gives a shit/who gives a fuck..Go Howard!!
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and that masterpiece is called Rear Window.
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I don't believe this for one moment. Completely beneath De Palma.
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DePalma?? There is NOTHING about this project that has ANYTHING to do with his style of film making. WTF?? THIS was who they came up with??
Greg Mclean on the other hand is a GREAT choice! he can generate slick thrills with a budget and bad-ass gritty horror just as easily without. He knows how to shoot, he knows correct sense of scale in his story. Fuck DePalma, the guy hasn't made a descent film in years. (If any! *gasp!*) -
Dressed to Kill is his ripoff of Psycho, Body Double is his ripoff of Rear Window.
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Dressed to Kill is his ripoff of Psycho, Body Double is his ripoff of Rear Window.
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End of line.
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Redacted is almost a try out role for movies like these? I bet the original director had seen Redacted a bunch. Most of it is shot on a hand held camera. So its not some huge leap, he's done a movie in similar style.
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regarding your query on the inconsistency of the Back to the Future trilogy. According to the commentaries from Zemeckis and Gale, Crispin Glover didn't want to do any sequels and Marty's original girlfriend was pregnant and had to be replaced by Shue.
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I thought he was supposed to get going on that one ASAP...
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Glad someone finally brought that title up. Its DePalma firing on all cylinders, with his use of split screen, his compositions and design, and the last truly award worthy performance from John Travolta (aside from Pulp Fiction). I know he started in low budget pseudo-doc style, but unless they are rethinking the whole concept of PA2, it would be two steps forward, four steps back...
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comes from de Palma being a director who has shown talent, at least back in the day, to let a sequence just go without cuts or movements. I think he understands how to build some suspense with a long sequence involving almost no actual action and that may have been what they were wanting by giving him the reigns.
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I'd almost forgotten about that one. Man Lithgow was creepy in that flick, and Nancy Allen was so freaking hot!
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The Untouchables... (masterpiece), Scarface (masterpiece), Phantom Of Paradise (awesome), Carlito's Way (one of the best gangster films ever), Mission: Impossible (fucking awesome), Carrie, The Furry, Dressed To Kill, Casualties Of War... Even his flawed films (Femme Fatale, Mission To Mars, Bonfire Of Vanities, Raising Cain) all have bravura set pieces that elevates them above most filmmakers' best works! He should be able to do just about anything.
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..Claudia Wells was the original gf in Part 1..shes way hotter i think..
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Obsession gets overlooked as well, kind of like DePalma's Vertigo, and a gorgeous score by Bernard Herrman. DePalma used Herrman to great effect in his last years. Just as Martin Scorcese would be a dream director for an episode of Mad Men, imagine if DePalma directed an episode of Dexter (sp last season).
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Despite the occasional clinkers, I'm always up for a new De Palma film...but who wants a sequel to Paranormal Activity? Blair Witch made a ton of money, the sequel was rushed into theaters barely a year later...and it sank without a trace at the box office.And am I the only one who *liked* Black Dahlia? Yes, some of the performances were suspect (Fiona Shaw was SHUDDERINGLY DREADFUL), and the streamlining of the novel made for some clumsy exposition, but De Palma can *still* cock up an outstanding setpiece or two per film (here the staircase murder and the crane shot revealing the discovery of Elizabeth Short's body in the background), and at least he's never really fallen prey to the PG-13ization so many of the 70's "Movie Brat" filmmakers have.
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SO fucking creepy. And the film is a masterpiece...one of the few De Palma films where his technical mastery is yoked to genuinely compelling human drama. The last scene with Travolta muttering "Good scream, good scream..." still makes me choke up.
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People would appreciate most of his movies a lot more once you realize its not about the story per se. The story, the writing, is (except for Untouchables and a couple of others) B movie territory. The magic is alwahys in the way the stories are cinematically told. Who else has the amazing energy of the camera eye like de Palma? I put him above Scorsese, Tarantino, etc in that dept. And I'd say Snake Eyes is probably de Palma's best movie of all, in terms of what de Palma specifically is best at. Forget the story, enjoy the visual genius. Enjoy the ability to put the camera eye in such an interesting space between the story and the viewer.
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after Mission:Impossible. Think about it. I also think Cruise had Kubrick murdered, but that's a different thread entirely.
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Nasty in the pasty, yes - you mention one of the ALL TIME greatest endings to a movie, and that's one of De Palma's lesser known flicks. Others have mentioned his masterpieces.
But what the fuck is this about PARANORMAL ACTIVITY? De Palma has always been superb with mystery and tension so that makes sense, but if this is following the original then it's a gonzo 'you tube' movie. Shitty web cam type footage.
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wasnt this a remake of Antonioni's Blow Up?
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Complete left field news for me.
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Too long this movie has been considered one of De Palma's 2weakest", when in fact it's one of his top best movie he ever made. Migth even be his best.
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I'd say inspired, not a remake. BLOW UP is not even a thriller. BLOW OUT is one through and through.
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If you are going to say that BLOW OUT is a remake of BLOW UP, then so you should say about Dario Argento's DEEP RED.
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We don't agree too often, but i'm 100% with you about Lithgow in BLOW OUT. He plays oneof the most creepy villains i ever seen in a movie. And the same year or about, he played a sensitive transgender in THE WORLD ACCORDING TO GARP. Lithgow is truly a cameleon.
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thats a better word.
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I'll never forget poor Don Cheadle pacing back and forth, saying "oh god, oh god, oh god" in a somnolent monotone because some impossible-to-care-about character had died. I have seldom been more disgusted about the time wasted watching a film.
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Feb 25, 2010 5:22:14 PM CST
I also heard Brian De Palma has been secured to direct 'Dude Whe
by judaspriestly
It's true.
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Crazy, huh.
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Just wanted to try out being AsimovLives for a minute.....Now I need a shower.
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He deserves another shot at a feature, Rogue was a really solid film fucked over by piss poor distribution.
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... I don't know, I'd consider Dressed to Kill a horror film. If Body Double is a thriller, then DTK should be a horror. I would like to see DePalma do this if he goes back to his low budget roots. Speaking of Blow Out, I always wondered if Nancy Allens scream at the end was used for Ann Heche when she jumped off the cliff in whatever that harrison Ford flick was. Going off subject, I've been trying to figure out the name of a flick, I don't think it was a Hammer film but it was around the early 70s, took place in the 17th or 18th century in some village where some girl was introducing witchcraft to her fellow students. Don't remeber much about it other than it had a lot of nudity for the time. I thought it was called night of bloody horor, but I looked that up and doesn't fit. Anyone?
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such a seedy and awesome 80's thriller, Patrick Bateman gives it his seal of approval as well
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on blu-ray?
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Too bad, really, but that's the way it was.
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devoted to a Frankie Goes To Hollywood song?
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Feb 25, 2010 6:16:16 PM CST
Re: "Is the girl with the big boobs going to be in it?"
by jaylenotookmyjob
Yeah, but she's a fat chick. All fat chicks have big boobs. But everything else is big, too so it ruins the effect. Don't believe she's fat? Check out her fast-approaching-the-size-of-Lucas'-under-chin-fatpouch-sized under-chin-fatpouch. It was the scariest thing in PA!
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...and that was quite a while ago back when he was in the end of his prime. Based on his last five movies I'm not surprised to hear he'd be directing Paranormal 2 seeing how sounds like a straight-to-dvd title.
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I mean I've seen some fat chicks in my lifetime and that chick is not even a size ten. I'm not going to bash on anybody else's taste in women,I'm just saying look around your work place,school or where ever you spend your time and I'm willing to bet there's at least three or four girls bigger than the PA girl. Her knockers are worth watching.
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Anytime
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must see classic
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Carrie, The Fury, Blow Out, Dressed to Kill, Scarface, The Untouchables, Carlito's Way, Casualties of War. All awesome. Few directors have this many great films. Even Raising Cain, which was a bit of a dud, had one great, uninterrupted shot that went from an office in a police station, down escalators and elevators, and into a morgue in a basement. The guy is a master.
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Is fucking suspect...EVERYTHING about that film is topnotch from the acting to the directing to the score to the mamet script.and if you're complaining about the homages that depalma wears on his sleeve, well then I can't help you cause that's been his style since Sisters. Hitchcock to Eisenstein...and he's influenced your beloved Quentin. I say again---suspect! The film is a masterpiece.
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Feb 25, 2010 8:41:33 PM CST
Sixies, thank you for sticking up for THE UNTOUCHABLES.
by colonelfatheart
I swear, there is no pleasing some fucking people.
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are the dumbasses who think Transformers 2 is good. I consider Scorsese more of "the heir" to Hitchcock than DePalma by about a million miles.
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critical biographer than heir.
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Feb 25, 2010 9:17:12 PM CST
BRIAN DEPALMA IS MY FAVORITE DIRECTOR!!!MAY HE REST IN PEACE!!!
by tehcreepythinman
Because he is now dead to me. I always hoped that he could have pulled off another Phantom of the Paradise but that man is long gone.
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Phantom of the Paradise....sure ok. But REALLY???? P.A.2...c'mon!! Where is your integreity Brian?? Are there NOOO other offers out there...??
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c'mon....really?????? P.A.2?? reminds me of Blair Witch 2......which sucked!
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SERIOUSLY. WHERE THE FUCK IS IT....
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...for a director who's often written off as a "cold technician" more concerned with moving a camera around than moving the audience, De Palma's films have often featured sequences that have moved me to tears. Carrie, Blow Out, The Untouchables ("What're ye gonna DO...?!"), Casualties Of War (AWESOME film that got unfairly overlooked and ignored due to its relentlessly despairing tone and coming at the end of the late-80's Vietnam movie cycle), Carlito's Way...hell, even Femme Fatale has this weirdly moving redemptive vibe to it. De Palma is a genuine auteur who's given too much shit just because he likes to move his camera around. I'll take any five minutes' worth of the worst De Palma film over the entire filmography of Michael Bay any day of the week.
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Feb 25, 2010 9:50:24 PM CST
gruemanlives, FUCK MAC AND ME, MUNCHIES IS THE SHIT!!!
by tehcreepythinman
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but has not aged well. I'll be honest, I think the baby carriage scene is retared, action notwithstanding. Plus, it's been parodied quite a bit which also takes away some cred for me (much like the slo-mo 360 camera work in the matrix). I like that movie for Connery's scenes, but as always I find Costner's work just meh. I like the Untouchables, but less so with each subsequent viewing.
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I had to make a seperate post to get that out. The soundtrack in some parts for that movie is like two cheese graters rubbing on each other to me. I laughed hysterically at Tim Robbin's death scene. The whole thing was just terrible. And I always confuse it with that other Mars movie with the bugs that make oxygen from their butts and the killer robot. I keep thinking Terrence Stamp is in Mission to Mars for that reason. The bullet point: M2M sucked hard and long.
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Feb 25, 2010 10:32:19 PM CST
Anyone that thinks the Paranormal Activity girl is fat......
by one9deuce
is GAY. If you like your women built like 14 year old boy then your gay. And a pedo probably. Yeah, that's you JayLenoTookMyJob. DePalma is a piss-poor storyteller, but a good director. If he has a great script he can make a great movie. Like THE UNTOUCHABLES. The talkbacker that thinks that it isn't good is not a dick like he implied, just dumb.
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All acting in the film is superb...and why is the carriage scene to be blamed for it's many parodies??? The film is a classic in every sense of the word...I'm sorry if it's not hyper-edited for you kids these days but those words coming out of the actors mouths for lenghty times between the awesome action setpieces are what they used to call a plot...Mamet won a Pulitzer..respect is heeded.
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Feb 25, 2010 11:00:25 PM CST
It's ironic that DePalma who prides himself as a Hitchcockian di
by takingscorpioscalls
And his most popular movies happen to be loud and pure bravura style with Scarface and The Untouchables.
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Is the most influencial film of the 80's in hollywood and cinema besides HEAVEN'S GATE...each having a different effect on opposite sides of the spectrum,,,
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Has to be my favorite opening to a film of all time...
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My treatment incorporates two cameras and lots of car crashes edited together like the SPLIT screens in BLOW OUT and DRESSED TO KILL and KILL BILL...all shot and edited by film students who are the actors in the film...
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Locked up inside of Pacino's flat with a garage bag full of coke for the weekend. Is dat eh camrah, Shu whant to record dis, ok! :::snorts some coke:::: Shu whant to record dis, ok! :::snorts some coke:::: Shu whant to record dis, ok!:::snorts some coke:::: Shu whant to record dis, ok!:::snorts some coke:::: Shu whant to record dis, ok!:::snorts some coke:::: Shu whant to record dis, ok!:::snorts some coke:::: Shu whant to record dis, ok!:::snorts some coke:::: Shu whant to record dis, ok!:::snorts some coke:::: Shu whant to record dis, ok!:::snorts some coke:::: Shu whant to record dis, ok!:::snorts some coke:::: Shu whant to record dis, ok!:::snorts some coke:::: Shu whant to record dis, ok!:::snorts some coke:::: Shu whant to record dis, ok!:::snorts some coke:::: Shu whant to record dis, ok!. You think I'd kill two kids and a woman? Fuck that! I don't need that shit in my life. :::snorts some coke::::
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I'm drinking rum and I'm HiGh as all HELL but I tried to watch SCARFACE, BLOW OUT, and DRESSED TO KILL none of them had COMMENTERIES... I'm in the past a bit I don't have BLU-RAY... So I watched NATURAL BORN KILLERS...It's crazy how much NATURAL BORN KILLERS and SCARFACE reflect one another...but what I don't get is where is RODNEY DANGERFIELDS oscar nom or HARELSON - LEWIS - JONES - JRS...it's crazy how TARANTINO objected to it...I'm watching the COMMENTERY for the first time ever...I must have seen this film 30 - 50 times BOOMS - cid.. etc... but this last time watching STONE talk about the film if feels like OLIVER STONE was making a FILM biography of the person who wrote it TARANTINO...NATURAL BORN KILLERS is GRINDHOUSE in the tenth degree...it is as if STONE is super imposing TARATINOS film psychee onto the screen...like STONE was painting a cinematography bio timeline of TARANTINO on film...like an american Federico Fellini painting TARANTINO'S future through his own writing...
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The dude is a hack. Sisters was okay. The hypno scene was too bizarre and the music was overwrought for that movie. Dressed to Kill was fine the last time I saw it. About 15 years ago. Body Double was cheese. Blow Out started out good, but ended up cheesy. Scarface is the most overrated movie of the 1980's. It is good only as comedy fodder. The Untouchables is a masterpiece. Everything in that movie works. Morricone's score, Mamet's screenplay, Connery's brogue and those memorable line reads, Costner's woodenness, the train station (Odessa) steps sequence....everything. He has only made on good movie since. Carlito's Way was really good. Altogether though--- hack.
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You know my favorite scene in THE DEPARTED is the part where FRANK throught the mount at the two girls... I saw the same thing 8 years ago...the greatest things that have transfered to the screen are the things in life that have really happened...cuz nothing in life is scarier than the truth...thats why THE SALVAGED is so personal...
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Her jugs distracted me so much during that movie. I dug 'em alot.
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You know, I really enjoyed the treatment of the first film - of course, royalties should be directly forwarded to the original Blair Witch staff, but it was fun. As far as a sequel though, I don't think it's a good idea to risk it, on a personal level...the first one kinda caught lightning in a bottle when there wasn't even a rain outside, and I don't think a sequel will do the same. As far as Katie's jugs are concerned, I've seen those things and let me tell you, they're pretty damn awesome. I rule.
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De Palma has sucked for a long while and he can go to hell after fucking up the adaptation of one of the best books of all time (Black Dahlia).
And seriously Paranormal Activity sucks. Bad. Everytime the big tit bitch mispronounced the main douches name (it's Mike-a, not Meek-a) I wanted to scream, and not from terror.
The whole found footage shit is lame. Blair Witch sucked, Cloverfield was only passable due to the budget as the characters were loathsome, and Diary of the Dead was pretty painful to watch, and I'm a die hard Romero junkie.
I don't know what bothers me most, the fact that all these films have such shitty characters, or just the unrealistic narrative device of the ever present camera.
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successor, until he fucked it all up. But anyone that wants to argue that point need only watch The Sixth Sense and Signs again to see that the man knows how to build tension on a level rarely seen since Psycho and N by NW.
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Not fat but not too skinny. Just enough to have some junk in her trunk. That's a real woman, the kind that makes the bed scratch the wood floor when she rides you.
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People seem to forget a lot that what made Hitchcok such a master of popular entertainment was not his grasp of the suspenseful, but having such a sublime wit. The early works of Shyamalan reflected that type of influence. I just wish that he would just stop relying so much on his own scripts and concentrating more on adapting his style to other stories. De Palma treaded similar ground in the 70's and faced the same problems as M. Night. I've seen too much good from both of them to completely dismiss them, and so I hope that every movie they produce will be the one that brings them home to the top of their game. Their careers need to stop participating the the Quantum Leap.
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is just adorable. Perfect size, beautiful tits, and a great pouty expression that doesn't seem out of the realm of obtainability. She was a breath of fresh air in the current generation of actresses.
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Although I don't think The Last Airbender is going to be his big comeback either. You're right, he needs to find some good original stories and adapt them, or better yet have them adapted and concentrate on directing. In fact I would even be open to seeing him remake one or two of Hitchcock's films. There are few in Hollywood that could do it, but I think it would suit him.
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How are you and I not best friends yet?
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I think on HitFix that talked about projects that Hitch couldn't quite get off the ground. I think it'd be fun for someone to unearth one of those and give it a go. I think Shyamalan just need to do a dark comedy. Something in the vein of hitchock's "The Trouble with Harry." I think that would spark him into forward motion more than adapting a kids anime series.
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'Cause I can be kind of a dick. And I only seem to be able to make friends with women and lesbians. don't know why, it just happens that way.
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is an HD camera that is less static and more of the what's-just-around-the-corner variety of scares. I also think he might up the effect a notch and allow us to have more of a sense of the physicality of the threat to the leads. I'm not sure where this story should go though. The first movie was wrapped up pretty definitively, with the only remaining thread being the whereabouts of Katie and the insight of the psychic. A mental institution documentary featuring those cast members might be interesting.
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Does anybody have any idea how they did the Ouija Board setting on fire sequence. That part gets me. The budget didn't permit the ease of computer effects, so how was that scene accomplished. I'm really curious about the way that certain scenes were pulled off in that film.
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... they land on Mars. The first part was pure Brian de Palma genius (no gravity blood sequence, death of major character). The second part was like Roland Emmerich took over.
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I just like to pretend MISSION TO MARS never happened.
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Feb 26, 2010 3:58:33 AM CST
I can't understand the lack of love for SNAKE EYES and FEMME FAT
by asimovlives
Merely from a technical point of view, those movies are sheer brillance. And they tell pretty good stories. It's one of this weird ass AICN dogma stuff that no rational mind can understand that names those two movies as "bad movies". While, of course, holding sky-high in favour dumb stupid movies made by hacks who do not have 1/100th of the talent and virtuosity that De Palma has on a bad day. Really, all this anti-De palma sentiment hat exists, specially among americans, is weird beyond belief. Really, what the fuck, dudes?
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My problem with MISSION TO MARS happened before they landed Mars. Ir was the melodramatic nature of the drama. No real drama, just soap opera melodrama. The constant exposition dialogue. Unlike most, i don't have much problem with exposition, but in M2M it gets so much on the nose even I couldn't stomach it anymore.And then there's the crass scientific inacuracies. For a movie that wants to play realistic, for a movie that wants to be hard-SF, the scientific blunders it has, many of them screws up of basic 101 space physics, are just unaceptable. M2M is no TOTAL RECALL (a fantasy action movie totally set inside the mind of the protagonist, playing a James Bond type super-spy fiction), they wanted to follow in the footsteps of 2001: A SPACE ODDYSSEY. With melodrama. Man, i can't think of M2M without tasting bile! Really, i like to pretend De Palma had nothing to do with that mess.
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I don't really have anything to say, I just like putting people's names in the subject line.
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If you're restricting him to set angles, there is really NO point in him doing this. Sure, I liked Redacted, but it was the same thing there, and I do think that film would have benefited if De Palma got to use his roving camera style. Come on guys, the beginning of Snake Eyes! The murder in Sisters! ANY of Dressed to Kill!
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Feb 26, 2010 6:28:03 AM CST
Black Dahlia has one of the best trailers I've ever seen...
by danielkurland
Honestly. There is no way that film wouldn't have disappointed after that trailer.
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There was a really kick-ass movie in there somewhere- it was called 'Al Capone' and it starred Robert De Niro! That quick point aside, I've never liked De Palma for the same reason I've never liked shredded cocunut: the consistency!
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Movies like Raising Cain or Body Double I would say are not GOOD movies, yet, I own them, and have watched them numerous times, because the shit De Palma does with composition and the camera is WORTH IT. He's always got something. I really need to make a DVD of De Palma's best uninterrupted takes.
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Where the film reels are being set on fire behind the cinema screen is PURE De Palma. Everything about it.
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Feb 26, 2010 6:44:50 AM CST
DePalma is capable of sheer brilliance
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
Casualties of War is my favorite war film. " I'm a armour-plated MuthaFucka!" Sean Penn is just insane and it brings the Vietnam conflict to a very personal level. The Untouchables is a perfect film. In my top 5.The scene in the elevator... TOUCHABLE... just kills me everytime. Those are just my two faves of his, but I will always find time to watch a new DePalma movie.
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... by someone I don't care about. De Palma's shit/good ratio is appalling. I loved it when he attempted to switch from being a Hitchcock hack to a Kubrick hack (Mission to Mars.)
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I'll call Micah today and let him know that he's mispronouncing his own name and that you said to stop it immediately. I'm sure he and his parents will thank you for your heads up on this.
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Although odd to see the "untouchables" on horseback at the Canadian border, the scene where they gallop toward the bridge in unison and Morricone's music surges, the hair on the back of my neck rises. Gets me everytime. And to see Terry the Toad go ballistic and then enjoy a hearty drink of whiskey...great.As far as Snake Eyes, it seems more like an exercise in style and "how do you?" than a complete film, like Hitchcock wanting to film a scene in a car factory as a car is being assembled, following the car, step by step. Then at the end of the assembly line the door is opened and a dead body falls out.
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When I saw THE DEPARTED I kept thinking about the HURRICANE in SNAKE EYES....
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That's the opening of NORTH BY NORTHWEST that Hitchcock wanted to make, isn't it?
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...indicates the calcified state of the film industry. Apparently, for a director to get their work to the screen they have to bow to the will of the corporate machine. Current order: build and expand upon existing franchines. Will this last ad infinitum? I doubt it. Meanwhile, if it takes a sequel to 'Paranormal Acitivty' to see another De Palma film in theaters, so be it. I'm very curious to see what he would do with the material. I'm sure he has what it takes to elevate this sequel to something poignant.
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...I apparently need a spellchecker.
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That was a piece of shit.
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I had apparently repressed any memories of seeing that movie. It was a truly painful experience. However, based on past merits, I still think De Palma has it in him to make something good using the original 'Paranormal Activity' as a catalyst to a richer story and amazing visuals (a la 'The Fury'). Who wants a rehash of the original 'Paranormal Activity', anyway?
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An unfortunate side-effect of the 'hype-machine'. It seems the art of marketing has steadily overtaken the art of filmmaking.
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But the film itself completely disappeared up its ass, especially at the end. OMG FIONA SHAW
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in Detroit. I'm sorry that Hitch never directed a Elmore Leonard thriller as he claimed he wanted to.
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Yeah, a pity it never happened. One wodners how Elmore done with the touch of Hitchcock would had looked like.
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... but he can still do soemthing that the majority of the younger directors can: film in slow motion and make it look great and exciting, instead of cliche, boring and irritating. And thankfully, he also still believes in the greatness of long one take shots and how thrilling those look onscreen, instead of this over-edited bulslhit we keep on getting from the hacks beloved by AICN.
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is the escape scene in The Fury when Amy Irving runs from the complex as Kirk Douglas arrives. It contains joy, terror, exhilaration, suspense, sudden violence all in a dreamlike sequence that is executed perfectly. Add to that an overlooked John Williams score...
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Hmmm, could tis be a TCM case, The first one bing gritty docu style, and then the sequel being hollywood-ifie....I name this 'Blair Witch Syndrome'
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Any moie when DE Palma decides to go slow motion, they always look wonderful. People might not like the movies, but they have to admit, if they have any honesty, those smow-mo sequences are pure cinatic brillance. And what's great about De Palma is that they never felt gratitious. Like his extented one take shots, they do add up to the mood the movie is setting. Simply put, Brian De Palma knows how to make movies. and the way he has been constantly mistreated and bashed by american audiences and critics alike is just criminal. Snmall wonder De Palma in america is more admired by his fellow filmmakers. They at least know his quality.Believe it or not, one of my favorite De Palma's movie is CARLITO'S WAY. A seriously underated and criminally ignored movie.
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...the reason they might specifically be interested in DePalma is that he has a history of being able to coax great performances out of female actors? That is a rare thing. Maybe the studio is interested in keeping the Katie character, and even Featherstone herself, and they want to bring her from a -- let's face it -- amateurish performance level to one that is up to the standard of Hollywood. Good Hollywood that is. Not Channing Tatum.
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Whether you think it's a good movie or not matters not, it is an amalgam of the 1980s itself, excess, the American dream, glitz and glamour, everything is intentionally over-the-top. Come to think of it i wonder hwat the definitive 60s, 70s, 90s movimes would be.
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Like the one in SNAKE EYES, or FIREFLY, or CHILDREN OF MEN (not the great one in the car, the end one), or ATONEMENT; none of them semed to have a point. The GOODFELLAS one was about Henry's dazzling lifestyle, so it made sense. All those others seem like "Oooh, look how long I can keep the camera running..."
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De Palma = legend. It's that simple.
Asi, you're right about CARLITO'S WAY too. That sequence where he accompanies his nephew on a drug pick-up and plays pool with the dealers. The tension in that scene racks up in a way that few other director could achieve, and when it goes sour and his nephew has his throat slit leaving Pacino to shoot-it-out...wow
"YOU THINK YOU'RE BIG TIME? YOU'RE GONNA DIE. BIG TIME."
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personally I think NATURAL BORN KILLERS is the perfect portrait of the 90's..and a great GRINDHOUSE Biography of QUENTIN TARANTINO...
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The Vietnamese use to call me MONTANA....
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I got to say this is kinda sad, De Palma obviously is struggling to get whatever projects he has in mind off the ground so his becoming a director for hire. It's not like he needs to pay the bills, but if you want to keep making movies, this might be his only choice.
For the rest of the movie brats it's a whole different story, Spielberg and Lucas are obviously able to pick and choose, Scorsese has never been so commercially successful and Coppola has quit the studio system and has spent most of his time making experimental art films in Europe, for De Palma however, it's a whole different story. -
wish I could watch the man work...He's my favorite director BLOW OUT I saw as a kid and is the reason I wanted to make films...That and Firday the 13th 4...and TRUE ROMANCE and Natural BORN KILLERS...
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