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David S. Goyer To probably end up writing SUPERMAN: THE MAN OF STEEL!!!

Hey folks, Harry here... So just a while ago I just got off the phone with Thomas Tull at Legendary Pictures who told me that the story that appeared over on LATINO REVIEW just frankly isn't true. Tull has not unilaterally hired Goyer to come in and write the new SUPERMAN. He loves Goyer, but frankly - the project isn't at the Script stage yet. Seems Nolan is still hatching some ideas. But he just wanted me to pass on that they have the highest enthusiasm for this project, but the story on Latino just isn't accurate. I'll see what more I can find out, but as of right now, there really isn't anything else to tell.

Beaks here...

The fine fellas at Latino Review just landed a huge (if not entirely unexpected) scoop: Legendary Pictures has hired David S. Goyer to write the screenplay for THE MAN OF STEEL. The minute I heard Nolan was "godfathering" this project, I figured he'd entrust this reboot to his story-spinning partner on the last three Batman movies. And here we are! Interestingly, Latino Review's source doesn't mention Nolan once. He credits Legendary head Thomas Tull with bringing on Goyer to craft a fun, John Byrne-esque script that will apparently have no ties to the Christopher Reeve pictures or Bryan Singer's attempted continuation of them (so no Brandon Routh). Fine by me. He also says the film will (blessedly) not be an origin story, and will involve Lex Luthor and Brainiac (commence freaking out about villain overkill... now!). It will also reflect contemporary society - i.e. The Daily Planet it taking in the shorts like every other daily newspaper in the world. Head to Latino Review for the full scoop.

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  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:33 p.m. CST

    First - I'm SUPER!

    by Unscripted

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:34 p.m. CST


    by Stifler's Mom

    Routh was decent, but far too young looking.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Supes is boring, though

    by Unscripted

    Does Superman have any real fans, though? The character is so boring and his stories are repetitive and predictable. I think the moviemakers are living in some dream world of the '50s.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:35 p.m. CST

    great news 2nd

    by OSAMP1

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:35 p.m. CST

    great news 2nd

    by OSAMP1

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:35 p.m. CST


    by vettebro

    I think this will fail.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:36 p.m. CST

    by Nobody26

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Glad I didn't say first now!

    by Big_Bubbaloola

    Anyhoo, as long as Jonas Nolan gets his mitts on the screenplay after Goyer, then all will be good. If he doesnt, and it's Goyer all the way, i'l start worrying<p><p>Especially if he is chosen to direct!!! *cough*Blade:Trinity*cough*

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Mel Gibson for Luthor!!!!

    by Nice Marmot

    It's amazing I have to cross my fingers for the SIXTH FUCKING SUPERMAN FILM to finally get it right.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:37 p.m. CST

    "John Byrne-esque"

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Yeah cause that was a really great take on Superman ... I feel like puking

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Am I the only one who has never liked Superman?

    by wes

    Never, not once. It's always been boring to me.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Reporter angle

    by dxf138

    As a reporter, Kent is under pressure from editors to blog constantly. As a celebrity, Superman also has a strong presence in social media. But things take an interesting turn when Clark and Supes' Twitter feeds get crossed, revealing some very sensitive information...

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:37 p.m. CST

    i.e. The Daily Planet it taking in the shorts?!?!?

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    What the hell does that even mean? I understand the implication in light of declining newspaper revenues, but this sentence makes no sense. Even tried replacing the "t" in "it" with an "s" so that there's a verb there, but it still doesn't make any sense.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Fuck Lex Luthor!

    by Amadeo Zeller

    Why does every Superman movie has to involve Lex Luthor?<P> APOCALYPSE, MUTHAFUCKA'! APOCALYPSE!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:39 p.m. CST

    bummed no routh.. loved Returns

    by sott68

    but at least it is something for superman fans. Now - lets get to the Justice League.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Bizarro Super Shitty Writer composed that sentence

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    I guess. :-) "Reporter am no to be for there so at. Bizarre Super Shitty Writer am must not for be taking English lesson and for to type, too."

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Bruce Campbell for Superman

    by savagedave

    Why the fuck not?

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:40 p.m. CST

    The Daily Planet.It taking in the shorts.

    by alan_poon

    Does that mean walk on parts for Verne Troyer and Gary Coleman?

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:40 p.m. CST

    As long as there's no inane real estate scheme...

    by Liberty Valance

    Count me in. Superman is eternal.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:40 p.m. CST

    why superman sucks

    by Murkish

    the guy can do fucking everything! he's invincible except for kryptonite, which means thats what the villains gonna run to every. single. time.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Daily Planet taking it in the shorts...

    by Royston Lodge

    ...this reflects current comic-book continuity, does it not?<p> As opposed to John Byrne's reboot, in which The Daily Planet was still powerful.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:41 p.m. CST

    that being said

    by Murkish

    the first movie did rock

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Better be great, if you want it to be a hit.

    by AzulTool

    Otherwise, I don't think anybody will give a err...flying fuck.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Redem this movie from the Shit of Superman: Returns

    by BlackBriar

    Don't Funk it up!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:42 p.m. CST

    John Krasinski is (possibly) Captain America!!!


    Yes... Jim from "The (American) Office" may be our Steve Rogers.... That's the buzz on all the sites... it's supposedly a rumor, but numerous sources say he is Marvel and Johnston's pick. No, this is not a joke!!!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Oh hell, Luthor and Brainiac...

    by JayLenoTookMyJob

    ...I smell "Luthiac" hiding in the wings. Jon Peters is in no way involved is he? If so, I hope Wild Wild West burned out his "giant robot spider" fetish. (Of course we'd still have to worry about sewer fights with Doomsday and Fortress of Solitude polar bear guards, not to mention gay robots...)

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:44 p.m. CST


    by vic twenty

    Of the actors mentioned on that list, I can see Scott Porter as Cap. I have a hard time picturing Krasinski in that role. Interesting.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:45 p.m. CST

    I thought the Nolan/Godfathering thing was bullshit.

    by beastie

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Luthor? wow, can't wait to see him

    by imagegod

    on the silver screen at last ! <p> man i hope luthor is mostly in the background being a corporate asshole, while Brainiac is the primary threat. <p> seriously, who's dying to see luthor again? will he surround himself with oafs again? it's getting soooo tired. <p> and yeah, Jonathon N. better be getting his mitts on this after the Goymeister.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Routh was great

    by American Mythos

    He brought a genuine humility to the role and really embodied an orphan who carried the weight of an alien world on his shoulders. He'll be missed. I hope they reconsider.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:48 p.m. CST

    krasinski is a fucking clown

    by imagegod

    whoever put him on a list to play Captain Goddam America is a thoroughly retarded. i'd rather see the re-animated corpse of Adolf Hitler play Cap instead. Christ.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:49 p.m. CST


    by 2soon2eat

    Anyone who still hates Superman has never read All Star Superman. A true gem that will make anyone believe a man can fly.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Something fresh...

    by vettebro

    Based on all the TB's here, it sounds like everyone wants something fresh. How about a Superman who goes postal on earth. Raping any chick he wants and raging through a global killing spree. I'd pay to see that...lot's of interesting concepts there.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST


    by CrunchyMilk

    All-Star Superman = masterpiece.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Relax Steve-daves!

    by ericthebeef

    This is a good thing. David Goyer is a talented writer who can pen a fun, respectfull comic book based movie. John Byrne's Man of Steel run is one of the best post-70s take on Supers and Nolan is watching over all of this. This will be a great film, hang on to your Green Lantern hockey shirts!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:51 p.m. CST

    vettebro - now THAT should have been Hancock.

    by vic twenty

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Well we know Goyer can handle multiple villains

    by MattmanReturns

    He proved that with Begins and Dark Knight. I'm just worried this will be too dark for Superman.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Let the casting carnage begin!

    by Hamish

    Another unknown? Tom Welling? Routh? Nic Cage?

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Routh's Supes

    by imagegod

    was just a bad impersonation of the mighty Reeve. <p> i'd rather see the re-animated corpse of Rudolph Hess play Superman instead of Routh again. well, maybe not Hess, but you know what i mean... maybe Goering or Mengele even.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Clancy Brown needs to be Lex!

    by TheDudeinLA

    His interpretation of Lex Luther is the best there has ever been. Hell he is played it for I believe 15 years now? Clancy is Lex!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Superman is totally anti-American...

    by vettebro

    He does the opposite of what the majority of the American people want. Like Obama and Congress. Pure evil. ; )

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:54 p.m. CST

    So far, so mediocre...

    by The_Recruiter

    I agree that if this is pure Goyer we are looking at the official long-term killing of this character on film. Goyer needs a person to perform rewrites, and he should also not be allowed anywhere near the Director's chair. I think Routh was good in the role and the negatives of the film were not on him. Ditch Lex Luthor..he needs a break as the bad guy...we don't need another land development swindle or another "bad guy in a giant robot suit" ending like Iron Man. We need a naturally superpowered kick-ass threat like Darkseid or Mongul with the Earth severely threatened by an alien assault with Supes (and maybe a guest star or three) as our only hope. He should have the opportunity to show why he is (arguably) the greatest superhero in comics.

  • You're not going to come up with anything better than Williams' theme because no one else has since 1978, so just keep it and make everyone's lives a whole lot easier and better, okay?

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Still rather have Darkseid as villain...

    by JayLenoTookMyJob

    ...but there's just way too much backstory there to ever get it across to the mainstream folks.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:57 p.m. CST


    by Avon

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:58 p.m. CST

    So could this be why the CW hasn't renewed SMALLVILLE yet?

    by SpyGuy

    Give Welling the Superman cape in the last episode of SMALLVILLE, then cast him as Superman for the new movie. Sounds like a plan to me.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:58 p.m. CST

    So this is good, right? (nt)

    by Triple_J_72

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:58 p.m. CST

    And here we go....

    by midgarddragon

    Time for Nolan to put the final nail in the franchise by getting Goyer to write a dark anti-fun script that ignores Superman's movie history. Oh joy.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Lex Luthor is boring

    by alan_poon

    Take a leaf out of Smallville's book and bring in a proper alien villain.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:58 p.m. CST

    More Lex?

    by Lang The Cat

    Could we get Parasite? How about Darkseid? Metallo, even? Felix Faust or even a really hot fembot? Maybe a tie-in with Black Adam? Would you believe a girl scout with an Uzi, perhaps? Lex is getting overused. Brainiac is just an alien version of Lex. The best thing I have seen with Lex is Blackest Night where he gets the orange ring.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Hell No! John Krasinski is schmoe!!

    by BlackBriar

    Jeremy Renner is a better fit for Steve Rogers

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 2:59 p.m. CST

    basic Superman plot should be:

    by imagegod

    story goes like this: <p>Supes uses his x-ray vision to see girls naked. whenever they turn down his advances he quickly switches to Heat Vision and burns them to Kingdom Come. <p> at the end of act 1 he flies around the earth and turns back time. Act 2? see act 1. repeat.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3 p.m. CST

    GUESS WHAT? In 3 years more,we will

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    yet another REBOOT of SUPER-MAN,SPIDER-MAN as well BAT-MAN.Why?Becuase this is business, studios are her for CAPITAL baby!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:01 p.m. CST

    John Krasinski as Cap?

    by The_Recruiter

    Good Lord I hope this is a joke...if so, it is hysterical. If not a joke...then, really the worst casting in the history of film and this movie went from must see to must avoid. I like Krasinksi, but I also like Tina Fey and think she would make a horrible Captain America.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:01 p.m. CST


    by idrinkyourmilkshake

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:02 p.m. CST


    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    You heard it here first!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:02 p.m. CST

    at least Tina Fey is funny

    by imagegod

    well sorta. for a chick.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:04 p.m. CST

    hope we get to see Supes

    by Human_Bean_Juice_

    get properly fucked up, you know??

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:04 p.m. CST

    The Captain America Short List

    by vic twenty

    It was listed in another talkback, but worth sharing (from Cinematical): <p> "Chace Crawford, John Krasinski, Scott Porter, Mike Vogel and Michael Cassidy. They claim most of these guys are screen testing for the role this week. However, Cinematical received word yesterday through an anonymous tipster that Krasinski is all but a sure thing for the role of Marvel's star-spangled Avenger in Joe Johnston's upcoming film The First Avenger: Captain America. Surprised?"

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Off THAT list, I'd go with Scott Porter.

    by vic twenty

    At least he has the look right, and can act a bit (he was good in Friday Night Lights).

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:07 p.m. CST

    So, this won't make sense either.

    by cookylamoo


  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Thats what you get for reporting another sites scoop

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes


  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:08 p.m. CST

    FUCKING FINALLY, Byrne-based Supes movie.

    by NinjaRap

    This shit should've happened in the '90s, and I can't believe it took us two decades for somebody to say "Hey... TV audiences really liked that Superman animated show, that Smallville show, even that Lois & Clark show did pretty good... comic fans still like the books... huh. Why haven't we ever made a movie using the MODERN superman? The one all those shows and comics have been based on since FUCING 1986?!?!" This is so overdue it's hilarious, but THANK GOD.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Krasinski! Maybe before he takes the serum.

    by zabu 123

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Amadeo Zeller

    by Sailor Rip

    Apocalypse is a Marvel villain. Are you thinking of Darkseid, who is a DC villain, who lives on Apocalips?

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:10 p.m. CST


    by zabu 123

    He'd look more like Kick-Ass in a costume.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Hopefully Goyer was pulled because he mentioned Lex Luthor

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    Cause real estate scam part four bazillion was'a comin!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:12 p.m. CST


    by Ray Gamma


  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:13 p.m. CST


    by Ray Gamma


  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Just please no Lex Luthor!! New villains!!

    by venvariants

    Whatever stage this is at, they first and foremost need to use new villains for Supes. Lex Luthor is a bore, and has been in waaayyyy too many Superman projects. And fuck Brainiac being the first thing out of their mouths too - - Brainiac does not a good Superman villain make. Brainiac will bomb.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:14 p.m. CST

    lets get some DC writters in on this

    by blest206

    seriously they should leave it to some of the dc writers to write the script. there are some fantastic superman storys that arent predictible at all. red son for example is a great superman story (he lands in soviet russia instead of smallville) or better yet lets just make an infinite crisis movie.... now that i would pay to see

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Yeah, IF they do Byrnes take

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    My guess, Braniac and Lex conspire to crash an asteroid in the Pacific -which will cause a tidal wave that wipes out Cali - and kills 30 million people, and then he sells land in Nevada to the new homesteaders

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Missing footage

    by Dasinfogod

    Okay, so we know that Singer shot a whole bunch of Krypton prologue footage for the last flick (snippets even showed up in the trailers!), but I seem to remember hearing that he shelved it for a future Superman movie. Now that it won't appear to ever happen, what are the chances of ever seeing those scenes? Do we have to wait for another format change to upgrade SUPERMAN RETURNS before seeing it? <p> Also, mark me down in the column supporting Routh. Didn't care for his murky costume, but I thought the lad was just fine in the role - evoking Reeve nuances without directly copying him. I know Warners won't go with him again, but even Timothy Dalton got two swings at an iconic character...

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:16 p.m. CST

    I wonder what will come out first?

    by punchydugan

    Doc Savage: The Man of Bronze or Superman:The Man of Steel?

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:16 p.m. CST

    I'm still sticking with...

    by The_Recruiter

    Mark Valley as Captain America. I realize he's a bit older, but Cap does progress into leading the Avengers and should be in the same age bracket as Tony Stark, and Downey Jr. is terrific and no spring chicken. Why does the studio have such a fear of real adults when the most successful superhero films did not star kids out of 90210? The Avengers should not be lead by a kid, or John Krasinkski, who I just picture throwing his shield, and then looking at the camera with a smirk.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:16 p.m. CST

    For the love of god

    by Thunderbolt Ross


  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Mike Vogel

    by Triple_J_72

    He was also in the running for "Superman Returns." Maybe he'll get another shot.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:21 p.m. CST

    i just rebooted my computer.

    by MonsterKilledThePilot

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:21 p.m. CST

    cock tease

    by Human_Bean_Juice_

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:21 p.m. CST


    by yesiamaplant

    No, and you're unfortunately not the only person who comes on to a Superman talk back just to say that. Get lost, dipshit.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:21 p.m. CST


    by MrDexter

    with Lex Luthor. Please.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Valley is the perfect guy 10 yrs ago.

    by vic twenty

    He could probably pull it off, though. I'd rather see him than Mr. Pamela Beasley.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:24 p.m. CST

    yeah. give Mike Vogel a shot

    by MonsterKilledThePilot

    he's auditioned for Star Trek, Superman Returns, Tron Legacy.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:27 p.m. CST

    never cared much for superman


    and neither did you,cocksucker.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Prepare for plot holes

    by krushjudgement

    But they might be cool plot holes.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:36 p.m. CST

    oh God, not THAT hack

    by Browncoat_Jedi

    Worst news of the day!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Set it in the 30s

    by MrDexter

    and wind his powers back to Fleischer powers.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Make it Sky Captain

    by MrDexter

    without the Sky Captain

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Nolan is single-handedly bringing back DC films

    by BLEST

    Hoping this will be epic. Agreed with those who say keep Routh and the Williams score, ditch the rest.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Thank God no Routh

    by Philvis

    That guy couldn't act his way out of a paper bag. Just watch him on Chuck and it is clearly evident. The best thing that WB has done in years was to let his and Singer's contract expire. Superman Returns was a weak homage to Donner's version of the character that bastardized the franchise. Time to move on and get a great Superman film out.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:50 p.m. CST

    I have 2 ideas

    by Briannicus

    #1, have a fully CGI version of Chris Reeve's Superman ala The Na'Vi with Brandon Routh doing the voice.....what? Don't laugh, I'm sure someone in Hollywood already came up with the idea. Second about we talk about the Captain America the Captain America thread. While we're taking Lex outta the picture, I think we should deep six The Joker from all Batman lore (Not really, but it's about the same idea.)

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:52 p.m. CST

    but will it be in 3-D

    by ORIONgods

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:53 p.m. CST

    bring in gendy tartoksky..

    by emeraldboy

    and timur secondunpronoucablesurname who directed wanted and that russian vampire trilogy.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:54 p.m. CST

    I would have said Mark Strong as Luthor

    by davidwebb

    But that was before they cast him in Green Lantern. Failing that, Jason Issacs or Billy Zane?

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:55 p.m. CST

    joshua jackson as superman

    by ORIONgods

    thats my pick

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:57 p.m. CST

    The Flash Forward guy? Aw fuck.

    by Franco Begbie

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:57 p.m. CST


    by MichaelCorleone

    Tull's talking out his ass.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Please don't make it dark and realistic

    by SithMenace

    You can get away with that for Batman, but just keep in mind Superman is a flying alien with a non-psychotic outlook. That said, I'm not a huge Superman fan anyway.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Lex Luthor as a villian?

    by peejnyc007

    So let me see, this will make 5 out of 6 films with Lex Luthor as a main villain... Aren't there any other bad guys in Metropolis?

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4 p.m. CST

    Billy Zane as Luthor! NOW!

    by JediRob

    Come on people, get it done!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4 p.m. CST

    THANK RAO!!!

    by LaserPants

    YES! FINALLY we'll (hopefully) get a GOOD Superman movie. They haven't made one yet. The Donner movies blew, and the Singer movie was one of the worst of the decade. (I wouldn't mind if they kept the John Williams theme, though... that's gonna be tough to beat.)

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:01 p.m. CST


    by LaserPants

    You know it, I know it, there's nothing more that needs to be said.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Goyer, huh?

    by rabidfnark

    Well, he's shown that he can be good (usually in conjunction with someone like Nolan) and he's showed us how bad he can be (usually when working alone and directing. Example: Blade Trinity). Let's hope we get the former. Personally I was hoping for someone along the likes of Geoff Johns, but that was ever going to happen. When it's all said and done we'll probably get something of The Incredible Hulk quality, which (with Superman) might be pretty cool.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:03 p.m. CST

    lex luthor jason issac

    by ORIONgods

    Brainiac: voice of ian mcshane

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Goyer's 1998 "Nick Fury: Agent of SHIELD" wasn't bad...

    by MisterE

    Goyer's 1998 "Nick Fury: Agent of SHIELD" wasn't bad. Really, it wasn't. He captured the spirit of the character and crafted a fairly entertaining script. The only bad thing about that project was its low TV movie budget, and they made the most out of that.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Morrison's ALL STAR SUPERMAN Should Be The Template

    by LaserPants


  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:10 p.m. CST

    They Should Hire Either Geoff Johns or Grant Morrison

    by LaserPants

    But I'm assuming the bean counters are thinking, "hey, this Goyer guy co-wrote The Dark Knight, right? DAMN! We made a TON of loot offa that! Hire him!" <br><br>I think he'll do a fine job as a writer on this, just keep him away from a camera (BLADE:TRINITY was embarrassingly awful).

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:12 p.m. CST

    ...and Hasslehoff. Don't forget him.

    by Zardozap2005

    He was terrible. Still, he managed to out act that whoever that actress was that played Lady Hydra (?) was it? She was so over the top, it was embarrassing to watch.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Luthor has a real estate scam, right?

    by V'Shael

    What a fucking joke...

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Goyer "gets" Comic-Book Characters

    by Grimjack99

    He can write them quite well, but not having seen Blade: Trinity, I can't speak to his directing skills. Still, if you're going to have someone reboot a series, you could do much worse than to have the guy who rescued Batman do it.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Hire me

    by vadakinX

    I have 2 origin with Zod and an established Superman story with Brainiac. My main influence is the animated series which got almost everything right...except for Superman himself. <p> If you're not going to hire some unknown talkbacker then hire Bruce Timm, Paul Dini and an established screen writer to pen the script to be directed by Alfonso Cauron

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Luthor should have a cameo, not be the main villian!

    by MyWeaknessIsStrong

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:23 p.m. CST

    louis walks around in her underwear...

    by alice133

    while superman does all kinds of uber kewl stuff thats just 2 kewl 4 school and louis walks around some more in her underwear and lex has a scheme to own all the real estate on the west coast.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Smallville is more or less Byrne based.

    by dailysportspages

    Byrnes universe established that Clark is the real guy and not the disguise. Superman is Clarks alter-ego, not the other way around as has previously been the case in previous versions. <br> So why not make his costume have a real tangible reason for its existence? <br><br> Superman can enlist the help from various of the technological, alien, or otherwise magical sources that have appeared on the show. <br> For instance look at Martian Manhunter... he is supposedly a private eye, how come nobody ever sees him for what he really looks like? <br> Could it be that he has alien technology woven into his coat that allows people to see a face that is different from that of the wearer?<br> Or he can even stumble upon the blanket he was wrapped in as a child coming down to earth. Martha may have put it away in a box or something. That blanket could easily be made of a material that would shield the childs identity from anyone looking at him while wearing the blanket. (not sure why i baby would need to hide his identity... but you get what im saying) <br><br> His suit should be the basis of what makes people not realize that he and Clark are the same guy. If you give that power to the suit, then you remove any hokeyness that could ever be thrown the suits way.<br> The unanswered or badly answered reasoning behind why people cant tell between superman and kent has always been patently silly. Very similar to the reasoning behind why Green Lantern cant deal with the color yellow. But then as time has passed, talented writers have made plausible reasonings to that. Now its not some hokey allergy to yellow or whatever. <br> Same with Martian Manhunter and fire... the writers have worked out really good backstory to explain why he has a problem with fire.<br> Not so with the whole Clark/Superman double identity thing.<br> And this is a good opportunity to fix that. <br><br> So once he puts on that suit and Superman meets Lois Lane... she will not have the faintest idea that he is also Clark. <br> And its better than the idea of him blurring his face while dressed as Superman.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Nolan isn't mentoring Superman

    by ALLSTARDOOMSDAY92 Diane Nelson, head of DC Entertainment, told that the recent report that Christopher Nolan was mentoring a new Superman movie was nothing but rumor. "Wouldn't you like to know!" laughed Nelson when asked if there was any truth to the recent rumor that "The Dark Knight" director Christopher Nolan will oversee a reboot of the "Superman" movie franchise. "We don't have any plans about that, and as I've mentioned, in the coming months we'll be making a lot of announcements about what our content plans will be," she added. "But right now, that's nothing but rumor - and we frankly don't say a whole lot more about rumor than that, so..."

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Didn't David Goyer write Blade 3?

    by Ganymede3001

    I'm not to enthused. I don't care if he "helped" Batman in the writing process.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:27 p.m. CST

    "Three Batman films" . . .

    by ONeillSG1

    Um, did I miss one of Nolan's flicks here or is this just a typo?

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:29 p.m. CST

    Jon Hamm...

    by Kevin Bosch

    ... is only 3 years older than Christian Bale. He, or somebody like him, should be Superman. They need to immediately make this Superman noticeably different than the previous one, starting by casting somebody with the maturity and gravity of Hamm. Just recasting Chris Reeve was a mistake for Returns, like casting a Michael Keaton look alike for Batman Begins. The whole movie needs to feel like its set in a completely different world then the previous films. Don't make it dark, but make it real and complex, like Alex Ross manages to do. Make Lex Luther a ruthless powerful man, not a goofy schemer. A head of a conglomerate or politician who is happy to make a deal with the devil. Make it like its a sequel to a Superman movie that was never made, like Dark Knight would have felt if there had been no Begins.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:30 p.m. CST

    NOOOO what the fuck? he is going to destroy Supes

    by ominus

    i love Blade,but Blade is not Superman.And lets face it BB had flaws and it was fortunate that he didnt work in DK (althought he did get credits) otherwise DK would have been inferior with him. <P>Supes is a character with a lot of content to explore,dont treat him like an action buddy,he is more than that.Goyer is good for b rated heroes but not for the most iconic one ever.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:30 p.m. CST

    And let me guess.It is Nolan who hired him

    by ominus


  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Legit stuff: WB asking for source.

    by donduck

    according to El May's twitter, Warner Brothers have been demanding the identity of their source. yeah, it sounds like it's real and WB is super pissed off about it.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Brainiac would be fine

    by drewlicious

    Especially if they went with origin from the cartoon. I like the idea of a kryptonian computer following Superman to earth.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:41 p.m. CST

    If they're adding Lex Luthor, they are worst than Jay Leno

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Legendary Pictures are a bunch of assholes

    by chien_sale

    They're incompetent and don't care about quality. It's like Warner gave their problems in the hand of Legendary so that if they fuck up, Warner won't be blamed.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Just do Lex right for once

    by Adelai Niska

    No matter who the villain is, Lex Luthor should exist as the king of Metropolis. He doesn't need to be the main bad guy, or even a major player, but just have him be present. Look at the cartoon and Smallville- the way that even when Superman is fighting someone else, Lex is always part of the fabric in the background. <p>Lex is proud and strong and rich. No wigs, no hiding in the subways, no robbing old ladies. He should sit in his penthouse daring Superman to come and take him out, knowing that he's smart enough to never leave any evidence so Superman is forced to just tolerate Lex's existence.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:50 p.m. CST

    by dailysportspages

    Fast forward 10 years in the future. <br> Superman is dead. (quick flashbacks to his fight with Doomsday)<br> His death is a national holiday.<br><br> Lex Luthor is president of the US and on the verge of being voted in as the first president of earth.<br> Luthor has long ago become a host for Braniac. When Braniac made his first visit to the planet he chose its inhabitant with the highsest IQ. <br> Luthor still remains in control though, Braniac long ago been suppressed. Having the Braniac nanites inside of him has increased his intelligence tenfold.<br> He has used this enhanced mental ability to essentially become the savior of the planet. <br> Ending drought in Africa, improving farming yields to incredible levels, making racism punishable by jail time, etc...<br> He even reduced global warming by creating a new atmospheric layer to cover the breaches of ozone.<br> Lex Luthor has become the great benevolent dictator... the "destiny" that Superman always wrestled with for himself.<br> The people of America and the Earth revere and fear him at the same time.<br><br> The Great Eradition War was fought between the super beings of earth and Lex's discovery named the Eradicator.<br> A virtual clone of Superman that was Lex Luthors chief enforcer. He was ultimately defeated by a coalition of superheroes headed by Batman.<br> (montage of the battle between Batman and Eradicator displayed on Bruce Wayne's computer) All superheroes have been eradicated or imprisoned during the war, save the few who have survived in the shadows. <br> Superman is their messiah, they await his resurrection. And Bruce takes it as his job to find the way to bring him back. <br><br> An old retired Bruce Wayne has the body of Superman in suspended animation. A sort of coma.<br> Bruce knows the truth about what Lex has been doing all along, he is not as benevolent as he seems.<br> The truth about Lex is that his goal is to increase the worlds population to its maximum capacity.<br> Braniac would then use the collective brainpower of humanity as a mass storage device for himself. <br> Its revealed that Braniac has reached the limits of his storage ability, and has come to this planet in order to use is as a giant hard drive.<br> He had previously done this with the city of Kandor, shrinking them in order to make his bio-storage device portable.<br><br> Superman is reborn when Bruce Wayne finally is able to figure out the controls of the Fortress of Solitudes healing device.<br> Lex has a plan in place, always one step ahead he has refitted Metallo as his personal anti-superman weapon. He is no match for Superman.<br> Superman then confronts Lex in his White House fortress.<br> As he meets Lex face to face he notices the wrinkles in Lex's face start to widen.<br> Terrified Lex screams in agony as he vainly wonders what is happening to him.<br> His skin is pulled away from his body to reveal the fully realized cybernetic green hued being we all know from the comics.<br> Lex Luther is no more, his incubation complete, he is now BRANIAC.<br><br> Superman and BRANIAC battle, with BRANIAC ultimately being defeated of course.<br> BRANIACS last command was to open the gates to the Phantom Zone.<br> As BRANIAC's body lay destroyed we see 3 black clothed beings come down from the heavens.<br> The camera zooms in to reveal the face of Zod. <br><br> Superman: Jon Hamm <br> Lex Luthor: Nicolas Cage<br> Lois Lane: Rachel Weisz<br> Bruce Wayne: Stephen Lang<br> Oliver Queen: Matthew McConaughey<br> Jimmy Olsen: Ethan Embry<br> Metallo: Tahmoh Pennikett<br> Eradicator: Tom Welling<br> Zod: Jude Law (cameo)

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:52 p.m. CST

    And Superman is not boring

    by Adelai Niska

    Saying all his stories are the same is like saying all of Batman's stories are the same. Superman has a million villains who are stronger and more powerful than he is, but for some reason the movies only show "real estate scam" Lex.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:52 p.m. CST

    I liked Grant Morrison's All Star Superman...

    by rabidfnark

    But it's far to busy to the basis for a film (or even three films) if they're going to use any part of All Star Superman,it should be the quiet moments, romance, and humor. Superman saving the jumper, his kiss with Lois in the moonlight, and setting his asshole colleague's hairpiece on fire were just as outstanding as watching him battle a sentient red sun with a baby sun-eater in my opinion.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:55 p.m. CST


    by []D[][]V[][]D

    unless Lex is leading the LEGION OF DOOM. Other opponents could be Bizarro and Mxyzptlk.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Lex as in the animated series might work.

    by fiester

    He's more like an evil Tony Stark with his powersuit and weapons and whatnot--I would still prefer a Superman movie that DID NOT involve Lex Luthor in any way unless he was in prison and Supes went to visit him all Silence of The Lambs like--heck that might be the way they are going with Brainiac being the main baddie. Still would prefer a Darkseid, Parasite, Metallo, etc.--gimmie some weirdness and colorful super villains Supes can punch, please.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 4:58 p.m. CST

    And a Superman movie needs Lex Luthor...

    by rabidfnark

    Just no more of this Goofball, "Greatest criminal mind of our time."/Land-grab-scheme bullshit. We need a Bad ass Luthor, and let him try to ally himself with a Brainiac or some other superpowered villain...just leave him an ace up his sleeve.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Jon Hamm

    by pen2paper

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 5:06 p.m. CST

    And lets not overlook Lois this time, huh?

    by rabidfnark

    How about a character that can stand on her own two feet, doesn't suffer fools or take shit, and can hold her own in a crowd of reporters? And maybe an actress that can back that up? I think you'll make more money.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 5:19 p.m. CST

    Rashida Jones as Lois Lane!!!!

    by BackRiverCatfish

    That is all.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 5:22 p.m. CST

    Aww, the Maelstrom of SUCK strikes again!!

    by spud mcspud

    So the climax will be fucking nonsensical, there will be the most boring car chase since BATMAN BEGINS in there, he'll have to get Ryan Reynolds in there somehow given that Goyer think the sun shines out of Reynold's ass since BLADE: TRINITY, and while the villain may get all the best lines, you will never see a more boring Superman.<P> Going on Goyer's work on the BATMAN movies and his thrilling denouement to the formerly awesome BLADE trilogy, I confidently predict goyer will fuck this up. I'm beginning to think his DARK CITY was an aberration: one stone-cold classic movie in a sea of turgid bollocks. I'm not holding out hope this will be awesome... but neither will it be a failure of NIGHTMARE IN BAY'S PANTS proportions. SUPERMAN MEHS?? You bet.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 5:23 p.m. CST


    by AzulTool

    fuck you!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 5:25 p.m. CST

    ROLLINS. That'd be fucking awesome.

    by davidwebb

    Guy could probably lift a car on his own, without the CGI or wires.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 5:26 p.m. CST

    Jon Hamm was born to play Supes

    by sansara07

    If they don't cast him, my interest in this will wither. He's the right age (let's have a SuperMAN as opposed to a Superboy like Routh), great actor and the right face and physique. And screen charisma to burn. Seriously, there is no one better around.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 5:28 p.m. CST

    As Bryan Singer Proved...

    by Acquanetta approach that works with one superhero franchise automatically translates smoothly and seamlessly to another. So I can't think of anyone more qualified to bring a fantastical, colorful, and over-the-top character like Superman to life than Nowlan. Wait, are we saying "Nowlan" or "Nolan"? Is it the guy that created Buck Rogers or the one that took down Batman with some dogs? Either way, at least he's merely "godfathering" and not directing. It's always better to have more than one guy in charge of making final creative decisions on a film. This also keeps things interesting for the studio, by giving them more than one talent to side with. Let's face it, a Superman movie should NEVER be easy to produce.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 5:29 p.m. CST

    ian mcshane darkside

    by ORIONgods

    lex luthor: michael chiklis

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 5:30 p.m. CST

    Sun goes Red Nolan

    by TheJudger

    Zod, Lex, That Lee Pres On Nail Chip and Dale Guy, Drunk Reeves. Reall what superman and the worlds biggest problem here. A red sun. If the sun suddenly went Red Superman would be like everyone else, but what if everyone else suddenly became just like him. What then would a world of superhumans be like as it comes to an end. Thats the superman I want to see. Sun goes bad. everyone gets strong as hell but doom looms. Superman becomes just like us. People with power but no power to stop doom. Wouldnt the chaos be amazing.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 5:30 p.m. CST


    by Shermdawg

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 5:32 p.m. CST

    Michael Chiklis as Vic Mackey

    by fiester

    Vic would play Supes against Luthor, bang Lois, get promoted, and pocket the stolen cash.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 5:33 p.m. CST

    Remember Neo with powers in the MATRIX sequels??

    by spud mcspud

    THAT is how Superman should be. There should be battles so vast and frightening that earthquakes happen in the shadow of their punches. Windows shatter. Cities are destroyed. DARKSEID!!<P> Enough with the pussy Supes already. Bring on the Badass Big Blue Boy Scout!!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 5:34 p.m. CST

    I'm Happy To See Many Agree: JON HAMM IS SUPERMAN

    by LaserPants

    And I also echo the sentiments mentioned above -- keep the John Williams score, jettison everything else. <br><br>Also, and most importantly, DO NOT MAKE IT AN ORIGIN FILM. If they're gonna go with origin, they can condense that into a 10 minute (15, tops) opening montage-y scene. EVERYBODY ON EARTH knows Superman's backstory, we seriously don't need to be told again.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 5:34 p.m. CST

    My attempt to cast this franchise

    by Adelai Niska

    Superman: Brandon Routh <p> Lois Lane: Kristen Bell <p> Lex Luthor: Bruce Willis or Michael Keaton <p> Perry White: William Peterson <p> Metallo: Daniel Craig <p> Brainiac: voice of Ben Kingsley <p> Darkseid: Mo-Cap of Michael Ironside <p> Bizarro Superman: Tom Welling <p> Cyborg Superman/ Henshaw: Jon Hamm <p> Parasite: Mo-cap of Jackie Earle Haley <p> Livewire: Mila Kunis <p> Mongul: Stephen Lang <p> Zod: Hugo Weaving <p> Supergirl: not sure, but should be an actual teenager, not some 90210 casting <p> Jimmy Olson: ditto <p> I will not name Ma or Pa Kent since I think the movies should just not bother with the overdone farmboy Smallville stuff. It added nothing to Returns despite how much money they spent building that farm in Australia, and Smallville has covered it.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 5:37 p.m. CST


    by Superkickassery


  • Feb. 24, 2010, 5:41 p.m. CST


    by Superkickassery

    F U HARRY!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Michael Madsen?

    by fiester

    Yeah, maybe if Luthor's ambition was to rule the entire trailer park while working the door at the titty bar. That's some evil super villain shit right there.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 5:43 p.m. CST

    Zod = Christoph Waltz

    by ominus

    he will rule it.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Jon Hamm is pushing 40

    by MCVamp

    Look, let's face it. This one movie is going to take two years, and it's Hollywood law to make a trilogy. Hell, even Welling is almost too old now. The one thing done correctly was casting Superman and Lois slightly young so a trilogy stretched over 8-10 years wouldn't end up with noticeably aged actors. Although Lois was not only cast too young, she was cast fucking poorly with an attractive featherweight who could not channel the cynical city-girl charm of the world's greatest goddamn reporter. Possibly the worst creative decision outside of the action-packed climax that featured, uh...Superman flying an island into space. As time goes on, that movie disappoints me more and more. It could have been GREAT and it was fluttering in the wind.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 5:52 p.m. CST

    I keep hearing Bruce Willis getting mentioned

    by davidwebb

    No, you fucks. Luthor needs to be a slimy, super-intelligent, asshole. And I, for one, like Walter B too much to take him seriously in the villain role.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 5:53 p.m. CST

    Lizzy Caplan as Lois Lane

    by Frank Einstein

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Selma Blair would be great for Lois Lane

    by AzulTool

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 6 p.m. CST


    by Shermdawg


  • Feb. 24, 2010, 6:03 p.m. CST


    by AzulTool

    The last act consists of Supes calling Lex Luthor gay for 45 minutes.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 6:03 p.m. CST

    Why aren't more people angry over Goyer?

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    He's almost completely retarded. I say almost because he's the one who made Nolan keep the Scarecrow mask, and wrote the first and only good Blade. But 2 was terrible, his solo movies were crap, Threshold was garbage, Flashfoward reeks of shit, and Blade 3 is universally an abomination.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 6:12 p.m. CST


    by superhero

    Thank you...

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 6:16 p.m. CST

    shermdawg is right. NO johnWilliams music either.

    by cautionlamp

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Gyllenhaal and Deschanel!!!

    by wackybantha

    Or Hamm and Deschanel!!!!!! Either way....DESCHANEL, DAMN IT!!!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 6:27 p.m. CST

    NO LEX!

    by Judge Briggs

    Really, fuck! If he does show, FUCKING USE CLANCY BROWN! And please set up a Darkseid story for a sequel. They better use Brainiac as a super bad ass... not some presence on the internet..

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Xenu Travolta to play Luthor.

    by AzulTool

    For some reason, Lex's scheme is to launch ballistic missiles directly into the great tunnels of the world. Hmmm, a rather odd obsession.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 6:33 p.m. CST

    Yes, bring back Routh

    by Judge Briggs

    He was great!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 6:34 p.m. CST

    NO. The Williams music MUST stay.

    by Shermdawg


  • Feb. 24, 2010, 6:39 p.m. CST

    sherm. let it go. that theme belongs to reeve and the 80s out of

    by cautionlamp

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 6:40 p.m. CST

    My expectqations for a Superman movie are so low.

    by fiester

    Honestly, after that last one anything would be an improvement. It's amazing how wrong they got it with Superman Returns. I mean, couldn't they just have read the script and been like "What is this bullshit? A bastard super kid? Lex bilking old ladies out of their pensions? Yet another land grab scheme? Does Superman fight anymore or just lift a lot of heavy things? I mean, we all enjoy Olympic weightlifting but no one is going to pay $10 to watch two hours of it, cape or no cape."

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 6:41 p.m. CST

    I want to see a Dr. Manhattan-esque Superman

    by ricarleite2

    Another talkbacker once said that is probably what Nolan would go for, and honestly, it's a very interesting aproach.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 6:41 p.m. CST

    Harry, your buddy at Legendary lied

    by YackBacker

    Variety confirms Latino Reviews report. Catch up, AICN!!!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 6:42 p.m. CST

    Sherm, I'm glad you're not directing this movie

    by YackBacker

    Or writing it. Or casting it.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 6:44 p.m. CST

    Introducing a new villian: DICKHEAD aka THE DICKHEAD

    by AzulTool

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 6:50 p.m. CST

    Yack, I'm producing it with Nolan.

    by Shermdawg

    Jett's writing it with Goyer.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 6:58 p.m. CST


    by Taye

    EXCLUSIVE UPDATE: IGN has heard from reliable sources that Tull is downplaying this report. Goyer is in fact on the project, but not only that -- his The Dark Knight co-writer Jonah Nolan will also be scripting Superman: The Man of Steel along with him

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 7:14 p.m. CST

    Sylvester Stallone as Bizarro!

    by zinc_chameleon

    who is going to be the Villain? I'd suggest Bizarro or Mister Mxyzptlk. Why? Because we've done somber and evil; Superman needs a comedian foe in Mister Mxyzptlk, and possible ally in Bizarro. By the way, Sly Stone would make a great Bizarro. Already talks like him, and looks like a melted-down version of Superman, no makeup required.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 7:18 p.m. CST

    heres a question

    by ORIONgods

    how strong should they make supes.I like his power level from the cartoons

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 7:18 p.m. CST

    Zooey Deschanel for Lois Lane, pretty please.

    by MyWeaknessIsStrong

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Lizzy Caplan as Lois

    by MattmanReturns

    Now there's some inspired casting. I love that chick.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 7:24 p.m. CST les/107/1071879p1.html

    by LaserPants

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 7:25 p.m. CST

    Oops, Sorry, Didn't Mean To Do That.

    by LaserPants


  • Feb. 24, 2010, 7:27 p.m. CST

    Good News, Though, I Think, That Exclusive Update

    by LaserPants

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 7:28 p.m. CST


    by LaserPants

    I'm going to keep saying it until it happens.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Tom Welling for Superman

    by Astral_Projector

    The only conclusion to Smallville is Clark becoming Superman. Why would they cast another actor as The Man Of Steel after Smallville ends? Thank goodness Routh and Singer aren't returning!!!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Scew all this

    by Mr_Satan

    I want a Prime movie. Why not. It'll be big and dumb and no one knows who he is. They can make him as jerky as they want. Big money from the kiddies. AND once again Dwayne Johnson is Black Adam. No one else.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 7:51 p.m. CST

    It would be nice to get something out in 2013

    by IndyCollector

    For Superman's 75th anniversary.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 7:53 p.m. CST

    if that's the case then get nolan off it

    by Meadowe

    I love grand master Christopher as much as the next, but like getting a trillion dollars with the catch of getting paris hilton's valtrex needing vag stapled to my face isn't worth it, so is Christopher nolan "Godfathering" this new batch of fliqs.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 7:55 p.m. CST

    Sherm, haven't you figured it out yet- Jett IS Goyer!

    by YackBacker

    Dun dun dun!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 8:06 p.m. CST

    OH. MY. GOD.

    by Shermdawg

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 8:27 p.m. CST


    by T_1371


  • Feb. 24, 2010, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Love it! Now my opening scene to retcon Superman Returns!

    by JediJones77

    LOVE IT! John Byrne's comics were themselves partly inspired by the original Superman movie, which John Byrne praised as the ultimate incarnation of the character up to that point in time. Byrne's stories were a fantastic, realistic reboot of the character that has gradually been torn to shreds by the hacks at DC Comics. One request: KEEP THE MUSIC! Bring back John Williams' themes and John Williams himself if you can pull it off! Oh, and make that horrible Superman kid a dream. My idea for the next movie has always been to have it open with Superman awakening on Brainiac's ship as his prisoner (shades of Crystal Skull's opening, but that was a great opening...just imagine the movie opening in outer space, zooming in one Brainiac's alien ship, and seeing Superman wired up to the wall in some kind of containment unit). In my idea, Brainiac has been trying to pick Superman's brain for Kryptonian information and pumping him with all kinds of electricity, chemicals, etc. This has caused Superman mental stress and hallucinations, one of which was Superman Returns and that horrific kid. Makes sense that Superman would hallucinate most of that since it was ripped off of what he experienced in the original movie. Imagine even a Bourne Identity style script, where Superman is suffering amnesia and has to piece together what happened to him and where he came from. He could end up figuring that all out, defeat Brainiac (apparently) and return to earth. Then Luthor could get involved. But halfway through the movie we find out Brainiac reconstituted himself and teams up with Luthor for some kind of world-domination scheme. No more shady land deals...we need to get back to the take-over-the-world stuff, e.g. General Zod and the gang. Spacey would be fine to return as Luthor, although my favorite cast member from Superman Returns was whoever played Jimmy Olsen. I am ambivalent on Routh...if he is sent to acting camp for several years until the movie's ready to shoot than I'll change that to a maybe. But Kate Bosworth must not, absolutely not come back. I'd take Margot Kidder at her current age before the banal Bosworth.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 8:39 p.m. CST

    Superman Returns would have been more interesting if......

    by wackybantha

    Superman had returned to find that Lex Luthor is President of the United States after conning the American masses into electing him. Maybe there could be a Prez Lex in this upcoming film. ZOOEY FOR LOIS!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 8:46 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    I don't think Beaks will stand for that. Things will turn ugly, of that I have no doubt.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 8:46 p.m. CST


    by BendersShinyAss

    Are ther no other screenwriter working in hollywood? is goyer going to write every single fucking superhero movie that comes out?

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 8:49 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack


  • Feb. 24, 2010, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Routh was a good Superman

    by Gungan Slayer

    I'd keep him. Damn shame he's not getting any more Superman movies.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 8:57 p.m. CST

    Nolan's Aesthetic..

    by Soundblaster

    ...doesn't seem to fit with the rich, colorful world of the Superman comics. Singer attempted a similarly cold approach to Superman's world, alienating much of the audience in the process. Despite Nolan's success, I don't understand the creative reasoning behind handing the Superman series to a team that specializes in grounding their characters in (a superficially similar) reality. So, besides their names (and requisite credits) what is the Nolan/Goyer team bringing to the table that Singer had not already? Perhaps I'm being presumptuous, but do we really need another 'dark, brooding' Superman?

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 8:58 p.m. CST

    Just asking

    by Philaveli

    I am curious about why is Superman Returns considered such a bad movie? I admit it wasn't everything we could have hoped for, but is anything ever going to be good enough? If the budget would have been 20 mil less would be prepping for a sequel with Routh?

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 8:59 p.m. CST


    by CharlesThomasMathewsMom

    Variety and Hollywood Reporter confirming Latino Review story FULLY

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 9:04 p.m. CST

    No john williams theme

    by BendersShinyAss

    unless the man himself is writing it!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 9:22 p.m. CST


    by Rodie

    I think Karl Urban would make a great Superman AND Clark Kent. And Olivia Wilde would make a good Lois.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 9:23 p.m. CST

    Bring back Max Fleischer's 1940's Supes

    by auddym

    I was watching these cartoons on youtube and realized how awesome it is to have superman not be a deity but actually get roughed up by regular goons. There was always a question of "will he?" "can he?" as opposed to the current conundrum of how the fuck can you create a challenge, a story arc, and growth to an invincible, and rather bland character who's already perfect. Or just give us a bad guy like Nolan's joker, someone too flawed and too human to steal the show and sympathy from the rather inhuman superman.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 9:26 p.m. CST

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO!!! NO!!!!! NO!!!

    by Kal Reeve

    Goyer has bad-mouthed Superman before! Goyer writers dark! He doesn't have a clue into the humanity, decency, and optimism of the Greatest Hero Who Ever Lived! NO!!!!!!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 9:30 p.m. CST


    by Kal Reeve

    I don't want him anywhere near the Greatest Hero Who Ever Lived!!!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 9:32 p.m. CST

    The fact he's hard to hurt is what demands great writing...

    by JediJones77

    It's super easy to create a threat for someone like Jason Bourne. That's not hard to write. Why would you want Superman to be so weak and ordinary that it doesn't take a creative writer to give him a challenge? That'd be sort of like writing an episode of MacGyver where MacGyver doesn't have to invent any clever gizmos because the villains are really weak and he can just punch them out. In Superman, the villains have to be the MacGyvers of the story, coming up with clever schemes to fight Superman. Why you would want to make it easy for the writers instead of challenging them and making them be creative can only boggle the mind. Let's also take a look at Superman 2, where Mario Puzo wrote the hands-down greatest plot we have ever seen in a superhero movie. It's frickin' genius on every level, one of the greatest superhero stories we have ever seen. The potential to pull off something that great remains with Superman and one only needs to look at the Byrne comics, the '90s animated series or some other sources to see how many good Superman stories are out there.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 9:33 p.m. CST

    Variety says...

    by bradylee

    that the story is true.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 9:34 p.m. CST


    by Kal Reeve

    Superman deserves better!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 9:37 p.m. CST


    by Kal Reeve

    than that hack Goyer!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Goyer sucks but then so does Nolan

    by Proman1984

    Ugh, just hire Ratner he will deliver in ways you cannot understand.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 10:03 p.m. CST

    Fuck Latino Review

    by MacReady452

    Everyone knows MTV gets all the REAL news.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Geoff Johns will make sure they get Superman right..

    by Thanos0145

    with the new responsibilities from the promotion DC Entertainment gave him. Anyone making Superman would be foolish not to listen to his ideas.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 10:19 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    how someone named Goyer can be Jewish. That's just mishegas.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 10:24 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    is you fine people. You have never let me down. <P> And I won't let you down.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Up, up and away bitches!

    by Star Hump

    That's a line in Goyer's screenplay, starring Danny Trejo as Superman.<p> Brace yourelves Superman fans (and I'm one). They're gonna shit all over the Man of Steel once again. It's inevitable.

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 11:34 p.m. CST

    There are still Superman=THE ROCK people here?

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    Funniest thing ever!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 11:44 p.m. CST

    Bringingsexy back then ur a loser Variety has more clout then ai

    by Superkickassery

    and coupled with IGN id trust them and they say Goyer Writing it so its a DONE DEAL!!

  • Feb. 24, 2010, 11:52 p.m. CST

    tom welling must be pissed

    by phoenixmagida5th

    Here he is playing supes for almost 10 years and they give the suit and franchise to some. New guy. They should end smallville and make that they new movies they got already a huge fan base. Also michael rosenbaum is lex luthor more so than clancy brown.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, midnight CST

    plus think about it

    by phoenixmagida5th

    Rosenbaum lex knows clark's secret identity. How awesome would it be in a movie to see lex torrment superman knowing his identity. Clark wouldn't feel safe anywhere. It would make lex with all his millions a real threat. Have him help a real sup villian with lex being the brains and someone being the muscle to detroy clark and superman. Id pay to see that

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 12:03 a.m. CST

    also if they

    by phoenixmagida5th

    Wanted to do a justice league movie the origin is already covered and they could keep williams theme since smallville has used it before

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 12:08 a.m. CST

    The White and Blue ELECTRIC Superman suit

    by JeanGrey_X23_lesboSex

    That shit was tight.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 12:19 a.m. CST

    i thought they were rebooting the franchise

    by nymetsfan2191

    cmon that was a great idea because returns was horrible. in fact smallville is really the only thign that keeps me a superman fan other then that hes boring. there was really no need for returns, keeping in the same universe as the donner series. thats like if lucas would have made star wars in 77, empire strikes back in 80 and waited till 99 to come out with return of the jedi. no need for it. that really disappointed me that there not rebooting the series

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 12:27 a.m. CST

    Tom Welling is Clark Kent.

    by SmokingRobot

    Erica Durance is Lois Lane. End of story. Put these two on the big screen and it's history.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 12:34 a.m. CST

    looking forward for the porn version of "the man of steel"

    by koprosphagos

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 12:43 a.m. CST

    Kent is a Columnist

    by Oknight

    Kent as a Mike Royko style human-interest columnist makes vastly more sense than Kent as a "reporter". (free to set his own schedule, subjects, etc) -- And Kent should always wear a bulky bullet-proof vest under his crumpled suits making him look like an office potato. And Kent can change his face so Superman doesn't LOOK like Clark Kent (he had that power in the early strips -- it helps the premise)

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 1:17 a.m. CST

    Lex Luthor ? Again ? sigh.

    by Se7en

    Sad news.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 1:20 a.m. CST

    "Yeah, but this time we'll do Luthor right ?" sigh.

    by Se7en

    I can hear them in the boardroom saying the above line. Hopefully bringing Luthor in, will be for the story, not be an ego thing on Nolan's part.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 1:20 a.m. CST

    Sounds like shit. Brainiac & Luthor = Lame. Darkseid or zed.

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 1:23 a.m. CST

    Blade Trinity was SHIT. Goyer' fault.

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 1:25 a.m. CST

    Tom Welling is SHIT. Tom's fault.

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 1:48 a.m. CST

    Superman Returns was OK

    by Gorgomel

    it could have been better but it wasn't bad.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 2:09 a.m. CST

    Do it the way they just did Star Trek.

    by dailysportspages

    Not exactly a pure reboot, but continuing the story in an alternate timeline. <br> Instead of going back in time, you are basically just saying that everything that happened to Superman prior to THIS movie... was a lie. A dream or set of false memories implanted by Braniac in order to capture the synapse responses in Supermans brain according to the situations and emotions being falsified.<br>Superman then has to try to piece back what his real origin is. <br> Thanks to a previous talkbacker who came up with part of this idea. <br> <br> You make a new trilogy with an older Superman who has to defeat whatever foes that are put in front of him, while at the same time chipping away at various blocks in his memory, trying to figure out what is true and what is Brainiacs altered memories. <br> He doesnt know/love Lois the way he remembers, he finds out his parents are still alive even though he remembers them to be dead, etc... So he slowly has to adjust back to what his reality really is. <br> <br> All the while he has moments of doubt, doubt as to why he is supposed to care for this world if everything he remembers is not true. If he doesnt even know why or how he came to even have his powers, having misgivings about his role here, etc... <br> But he eventually triumphs, his true nature shines through, his love for Lois naturally rekindles because its really always been there. Its as if he met her for the first time all over again. <br> <br> You spend the whole next trilogy of movies clearing up these inconsistencies in his memory, in the mythos. <br> Instead of having to devote an entire movie to the origin of Superman, you can spread it out between all 3 movies without having it bog any one movie down. <br> <br> Because its just not us are learning his origin... Superman himself has to learn who Superman is as well.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 2:56 a.m. CST


    by reflecto

    It should not be allowed in any Superman film.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 3:17 a.m. CST


    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    Quite screwing around and portraying Luthor as an effeminate moron who surrounds himself with morons! Time to hire a guy who'll actually make Luthor seem like a THREAT!

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 3:26 a.m. CST


    by DutchRudder

    Just shut the fuck up, Donnie. Your out of your element.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 3:46 a.m. CST

    just as long as he doesnt direct

    by Obscura

    Blade trinity was that special Spidey 3 kind of shite.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 4:16 a.m. CST

    My cast

    by vadakinX

    Clark Kent/Superman - Brandon Routh (best known quantity out unknown would be my preferred option but I like Routh) <p> Lois Lane - Rose Byrne <p> Lex Luthor - Joaquin Phoenix (if he isn't nuts) <p> General Zod - Michael Fassbender <p> Jimmy Olsen - Anton Yelchin <p> Perry White - James Caan <p> Mercy Graves - Summer Glau <p> Maggie Sawyer - Katie Sackhoff <p> Dan Turpin - Brendan Gleeson <p> Lana Lang - Emily Blunt <p> and for sequels: <p> John Corben/Metallo - Clive Owen Brainiac - Doug Jones <p> Haven't thought much about the Kents yet but for Jor-El and Lara, probably Pierce Brosnan and Lena Headey <p> In an case, Goyer is writing, bring on MediocreMan

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 4:25 a.m. CST

    Superman Returns Problems

    by thatswhatshesaid

    1. Terrible story, made zero sense. Am I really supposed to believe Superman made his own spacepod sat in it for years without the aid of the yellow sun on a hunch his dad was wrong and the planet was still there? 2. Routh lacked the charisma Reeves had and was void of any emotion. Maybe not his fault since the script was bad, but Reeves was way better. 3. Changeover in elevator??? Am I supposed to suspend disbelief so much and except that superman would fly through the ceiling of an elevator and then roof of a building and no one says a word?? 4. If superman does not even flinch when some bad dude shoots a bullet at his eye, why is he ducking when some debris fly towards him from a damaged airplane?

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 4:50 a.m. CST

    Superman shouldn't take place..

    by BacardiRocky

    in modern times. I know they want to eventually tie the Superman films to the Batman films, but I always thought the Superman character worked best when he was set in the 1930' or 1940's. Just bring the Fleischer Superman cartoons to life. That has always been my favorite Superman. It works for the character too, I mean with Clark being a mild mannered reporter. What is he going to be in this, a mild mannered blogger? I want to see Clark wearing a fedora and trench coat, doing some actual investigating, running into a phone booth (not too many of those anymore) change into Superman and leap into the air and save a Zeppelin from burning to the ground, fight against Nazi Robot invaders who have had a little help from Superman's evil Alien android nemesis. Due to the nature of the character and his powers and "mythology," I always felt that setting the Superman film in the 1930's or 1940's will give the filmmakers an easier time for the audience to accept things. Setting it in modern times is distracting. It worked in the late 70's/early 80's due to technology and social themes being similar. Setting it in today's world would take away too much from the character.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 4:50 a.m. CST

    From the man that brought us Kickboxer 2!

    by MorganLeafy

    I saw TDK again the other night. Still good, still overrated. Is there really nobody else who can come up with a good, fun, Superman script?

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 5:17 a.m. CST


    by sonnyfern

    We've had him in every damn Superman movie EVER, can't we have ONE without him? Give Superman COOL shit to fight! Give us crazy cool effects, something we've never seen before! THAT'S what audiences want. AND NO EMO BULLSHIT. Superman is suppose to be what we aren't, no petty women problem please...

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 6:08 a.m. CST

    I am just glad that fucking little kid is outtathere!

    by DoctorZoidberg

    That was the only part of Returns that stuck in my craw. There were other annoyances, sure, but that asthmatic kid and his stupid haircut....MAN!

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 6:19 a.m. CST


    by Fabsantos

    I think both of those guys are very talented of cours, but wrong choice for superman

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 6:50 a.m. CST

    We haven't seen Lex Luthor on the silver screen

    by David Cloverfield

    We've seen Gene Hackman and Kevin Spacey playing Gene Hackman though.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 7:30 a.m. CST

    How these movies SHOULD be made.

    by Reasonaxe

    I want to keep this short so someone actually reads it. If you're Chris Nolan, godfather/overseer of the new Superman film(s) here is what you SHOULD do. Lay out your epic Superman trilogy (trilogies are all the hype these days). Hire your director for all 3, cast your principals. Clark, Lois, Jon and Martha, Lex Luthor, etc etc. Have Luthor be the serious billionare he is as depicted in the cartoon series. I always liked the Billy Zane suggestions. But I digress. Pick your "secondary" villians for the 3 movies. 1. Metallo. 2. Zod. 3. Braniac (and have Braniac always be lurking in the background of the other films). Cast all the roles and start shooting. While the first Superman film is being shot, you simultaneously shoot a movie called "Krytpon" with a different director/actors/etc. From this movie, you'll have your Jor-El (who will only need to be seen in small bits in the Superman film being filmed at the same time so scheduling shouldn't be a problem. Zod will be in place, Braniac, etc. These are the stars of these films. Make it an epic 2 hour science fiction masterpiece. I can talk about all the different things they could do, space battles, show us the various councils, etc but I don't want to drag this on. Here is a reference for Krytpon's history Have this movie end in 2012-like destruction with Jor-El racing to get his son off the planet. The movie ends with the rocket leaving. "Superman: The Man of Steel" opens with the rocket landing in Kansas. Buy your tickets on fandango now. KRYPTON: 5/23/13 Superman: The Man of Steel: 7/26/13

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 7:44 a.m. CST

    John Hamm for supes / Ian Mcshane: Luthor

    by smddoc

    John hamm is supes.. Ian Mcshane is Luthor and Carla Gugino is Louise Set in the 50's against Luthors army of giant robots from mars !

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 8:12 a.m. CST

    Beaks got PWONED... BY HIS OWN BOSS!!!

    by AsimovLives

    That's a salary cut right there! But Mr Beaks can always find consolation in finding brechtian elements in BAD BOYS II.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 8:29 a.m. CST

    No fucking Lex Luthor this time.

    by photoboy

    It's time for everyone to kneel before Zod again.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 9:03 a.m. CST

    But they are going to make it like Star Trek

    by ominus

    or the rebooted Hulk movie.count on it.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 9:23 a.m. CST

    I don't like Goyer, but I'd love to see Brainiac!

    by kafka07

    As much as I don't like Goyer, I like the direction this Superman is taking. Not an origin story, and not a reboot, and finally FINALLY we are getting a cool villian. And as much as it might seem weird that Nolan is involved in some way, it might be good in that Nolan could be the right one who starts tying the DC universe together. I'd trust Nolan more than someone like George Miller coming out of nowhere to make a really lame Justice League film. Kabish?

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 9:45 a.m. CST

    And I suppose Christian Bale is going to be Superman...

    by Dragon Man

    And Michael Caine will play Lex Luthor. Why the hell not? They're bringing back most of the old band -- why not all?

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 9:50 a.m. CST

    they cant bring back bale and caine

    by ominus

    since eventually there will be a bats/supes crossover

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 9:51 a.m. CST

    they cant bring back bale and caine

    by ominus

    since eventually there will be a bats/supes crossover

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Fareal, there IS a Black Superman at DC. He's called Icon.

    by SpyGuy

    And no one apart from Dwayne McDuffie cares about him because most people don't want to see a Superman that's black just for the sake of being black. It's like casting Ben Stiller as Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 10:03 a.m. CST

    I Hope This Isn't Building To Some Kind Of Crossover

    by LaserPants

    I'd rather see the Nolan Batman remain in it's own separate, "realistic" universe. I don't want to see some cornball cross over nonsense. I mean, that kind of cross over stuff is great in comics, and can be great in movies, but I think Nolan's "realistic" take on Batman would be ruined by crossing over with Supes, make it hokey. Anyone get what I'm saying or am I just ranting? I mean, eventually when they get around to a Justice League movie, I'd almost rather see a completely new cast.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Ben Stiller as Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

    by LaserPants

    Would be AWESOME. It would just, wow, people would be flying planes into buildings over something like that. That would go way past "full retard," man.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 10:06 a.m. CST


    by BacardiRocky

    I think/hope Fareal was being sarcastic.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Things I didn’t like about Returns

    by TheManWhoCan

    <p> Metropolis looked like sunny Sidney! <p> Metropolis was always an analogue of New York and the gritty 70’s NY in Superman 1&2 was perfect. The fact that they added an annoying blond character with an unbearably strong Australian accent on the plane/shuttle sequence didn’t help either! (and people make fun of Jake’s slight aussie accent in Avatar!) <p> Strange flashback scenes like the one with young Clark Kent learning to jump and float in Smallville<p> Sure it looked good, but what was the point in the context of the main story? The old broken cradle visual gag and baseball throw in superman 4 was more effective in evoking some nostalgia of Clarks youth while furthering the plot of that terrible film. THAT’S how pointless the superman returns /Smallville scenes where.<p> Actually you would think re-watching superman 4 (on TV with a bad hangover during Christmas holidays, I hadn’t seen it in decades since I saw it in the cinema as a kid so don’t make fun) would increase ones appreciation of Singers weird take of the Donner original, but instead it did the opposite. Sure Superman 4 is without a doubt one of the worst Action adventure/sci-fi movies of the 80’s (laughably bad sfx, masonry vision and breathing in space) but plot wise it made more sense than superman returns if you think about it. <p>Okay back to my list<p> Sidney, tacked on flashback scene, oh <p> The KID?<p> Where was that plot going to go in the sequels? The actor wasn’t a Jaden Smith or bowl hair cut Phantom Menace brat by any means but the whole plot came across as creepy stalker-ish despite everything Singer tried to do to make it not seem so … well creepy and staker-ish, And what is Lois’ boyfriend going to think when Junior starts flying around his Sidney bay property one day, he probably have to give Mick Dundee a shout and knock back a few Fosters to drown his sorrows down the old watering hole in downtown “metropolis”! <p>

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 10:22 a.m. CST


    by LaserPants

    Just keep saying it until it happens.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Goyer is such a bad writer. The ending will suck.

    by chien_sale


  • Feb. 25, 2010, 10:50 a.m. CST


    by Superkickassery

    so i dont get what ur saying Dipshit! a crossover is WHAT THE MAJORITY OF THE FANS WANT not whiny bitches lik you!

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 11:12 a.m. CST

    John Byrne's Superman

    by socalactor

    Since everyone is freaking out about the "Byrne"ization of the new film, I thought it would be valuable to take a moment and examine what it was that Byrne's Superman take actually WAS. <p> Byrne chose to emphasize the "man" in Superman. He lowered his power levels to the point where lifting a tank actually required a little bit of effort. Considering that one of the biggest knocks on the Superman films has been his lack of humanity (especially in Singer's Kal-Jesus-El interpretation), I think that showing a Superman who actually has to struggle SOMEWHAT to deafeat determined opponents is valuable. <p> He also made Clark Kent the core personality. This is one of the great arguments of Super-fandom; whether Clark or Superman is the disguise. Byrne chose to make Superman the costume that Clark puts on so that he can continue to enjoy a psuedo-normal life outside of it. <p> In fact, in the modern world, where real-time reporting of current events is available to ANYONE, not just a mild-mannered reporter at the Daily Planet, it almost becomes necessary to show that it is Clark who WANTS to be a journalist to affect change in his "real" life. <p> Finally, he grounded Superman in a much more realistic world, which is in keeping with the theme of the Nolanverse Batman. Lex Luthor isn't a mad scientist or real estate-snatching loon, he's a corporate mogul who has the city firmly under his thumb and is revered as one of its most prominent figures until Superman appears to show that there's a better way. <p> I look forward to the scenes of Lois wondering why the weight on Clark's Nautilus is set so low that she can lift it, because he can't really judge what's "heavy". I look forward to the awkward love-triangle of Cat-who-wants-Clark-who-wants-Lois-who-wants-Superman. <p> My random (and, I believe inspired) casting choice: Michael Chiklis as Perry White. C'mon, Vic Mackey storming through the city room, cigar in hand, bawling "KEEEENT!!!" <p> For those of you who aren't actually familiar with Byrne's run, go back and reread the first 25 issues of Superman starting in '86, and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised when you find a hero who you are simultaneously awed by and identify with. THAT, my friends, is what this franchise needs.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 11:32 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    All they need to make Superman into something similiar to JJ Abrams' TWILIGHT TREK is to dig up JJ's scrip he wrote years ago. I once made a search for JJ in this site, and oneof the results was moriarty's review for the script. And it was a complete evisceration job. Suprising, considering how late Mori and the whole of AICN kissed the ass and sucked his dick for MISSION RETARD 3 and TWILIGHT TREK. But back then, JJ was not the guy who "created" LOST, he was just a struggling writer looking for an agle, he was the writer of ARMAGEDDON and REGARDING HENRY. And Mori and the rest of AICN had no problem putting JJ's ass where it belong, in the puddle of mediocrity. JJ's script for Superman, as told by Moriarty, is a continious string of retardnes,s stupidity, ignorance and bad calls from an incompetent writer. Suffice to say, Abrams wanted Lex Luthor to be a kriptonian. It was great to read the talkbackers' reactions, they were DEMOLISHING! Really, if you want to know how bad JJ is, all it takes is to know about that script. All he has done afterwards is disguising his retard bulslhit he creates with glossy nonsense. The writing was in the wall.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 11:47 a.m. CST


    by socalactor

    So, apparently it would be possible to judge your current skill at writing by going back in time seven years and looking at a first draft of one of your works? For crying out loud, people, have you never heard of the word "growth"?

  • Feb. 25, 2010, noon CST

    ASI know i was reading the talkback then

    by ominus

    and you are correct

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Byrne Superman is great, GOYER SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!

    by Kal Reeve

    Keep that sleazy hack away from the greatest hero who ever lived!

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 4:22 p.m. CST



    Title; jesus christ superman, just use someone older now and not a young adult.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Someone wanna bring the ban-hammer down on....

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    .... Asimov? Yeah, I'm serious. <p> <p> EVERY talkback about EVERY movie is hijacked with his relentless (and WRONG) diatribes against Abrams and Star Trek. <p> <p> FUCK OFF ASIMOV - it's been nearly a year, and it was a cool fucking movie, and still is. <p> <p> This new Supes and the new Nightmare On Elm Street have FUCK ALL to do with JJ Abrams, or Star Trek, or Mission Impossible III. <p> <p> You border on the pathological. But most of all you're just fucking BORING.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 4:47 p.m. CST

    Back on topic -

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    Keep Routh: wasn't his fault the Superman Returns script gave him nothing to do. He brought a quiet dignity and gravitas to the part, and I wish we could've seen more of that than the moping over Lois the script demanded of him. I'd love to see him in PROPER Super-action. And if there's one criticism I'd make of his performance, it's that yes, he did come off a little too young and wiry (I'm aware he was older than Reeve was when filming the original). But I'm sure by now Routh looks a little craggier, could beef up a little more, and could come off with a good deal more maturity. And give him more Clark moments. <p> <p> Singer and Co treated Donner's flicks far too reverentially - BUT - face it, most moviegoers (and like it or not, THAT's who these films are made for, not us comics geeks) know the characterisations from those flicks, not Byrne, not Birthright, not the new "Secret History" or whatever... <p> <p> But ditch Luthor. <p> <p> And sorry - as ridiculous as Abrams' script from years back was, if someone were to write him one that sticks to established continuity and characters (and no, we definitely don't need another origin) I'm pretty sure if they got Abrams behind the camera, it'd be sensational. <p> <p> I'll say it again: SEN FUCKING SATIONAL.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Draft Nic Cage!

    by Teddy Artery

    This would be the capper on his career-long aspiration to play The Caped One, and he'd bring all kinds of levels of weird to the role. Perfect for our times.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 5:06 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    Growth in JJ Abrams? How hard do you want me to laugh at that?

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 5:09 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    What's your problem, GAY FOR JAYJAY? You want a hug? a pat in your head? You want me to say "everything is going to be OK?". How hard were you dancing naked at the fires and shouting the praises of JJ Abrams from his stupid dumb movie? And invoking his name for every fucking movie that was about to be made, for him to be it's director? And now you want the ban-hammer on somebody who's paying back? Can i call you a fascist? Can I? Ask for banning!!! Tsk tsk!! Learn to live in democracy, dude. Democracy, you ever heard of that? Deal with it.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 5:22 p.m. CST

    I always had problem with Superman

    by AsimovLives

    Even among superheros he's just too powerful. The way writers and filmmakers have come to find ways to make him momentarily powerless so that they could build drama for a character which is, in all other ways, a god, is just silly. They made him too great, too invincible. And then they have to invent this silly stuff to make him TEMPORARILY vulnerable, so they can milk suspense.<br><br>No, i never liked Superman much. I'd rather stick with Batman and Spider-Man.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Hey Assy -

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    Seriously, I just wanna know what this pathological desire of yours, to invade every unrelated talkback, and spout vitriol at a director whose movie came out nearly a YEAR AGO (and there have been many, MANY more shit movies since), is all about? Honestly dude. Enlighten me. <p> <p> As for your misguided notion that this site sucks JJ's cock constantly - may I suggest that you are in a VAST minority (contributors and talkbackers all included) when it comes to opinions on the aforesaid flick? Hmmm? <p> <p> If you want to talk about director's cocks being sucked, it's unfair to just single out Abrams. I really aren't a rabid fan of his. I enjoyed Mission Impossible III (the most faithful to the original series, for a start) and really really like Star Trek. I was never into Alias, I'm aware - as are most people - he has had very little to do with Lost since the pilot - and haven't seen much else he's done. Cloverfield? Meh. Not his movie. Felicity? Never saw it. Forever Young, Regarding Henry? Both shit. <p> <p> By your definition, this site gobbles cock on more directors than just him. To whit: <p> <p> Romero. Not made a decent movie since 1985. <p> Tobe Hooper. Not made a decent movie since Poltergeist. Which he probably didn't make anyway. <p> John Woo. Never made a good film in Hollywood. <p> Brian DePalma. Last watchable flick was 20-odd years ago. <p> Eli Roth. Hack. <p> Tarantino. Great director, but no longer gets a free pass. Needs a script editor. And a spellchecker. Has great ideas to homage those pulpy trashy movies he loves, but can't help himself and over-indulges his own internal monologues by transferring them onto his characters. Worked early on. Fucked Death Proof and Inglourious Basterds COMPLETELY up. <p> <p> There are more. Shall I go on? <p> <p> Your crusade against JJ Abrams - in my opinion a very very competent director of mainstream Summer blockbusters - is baffling. And once again, boring. <p>

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Donner's Supeman Films

    by @gape

    Nothing will ever top Donner's Superman films. In fact, I wish they would edit the two films together into one uber-superman movie. Get rid of the turning back time by reversing the Earth's rotation plot at the end of the second one, though. What's so wrong with Lois knowing that Clark is Superman? They both hold a burden, and have to make a sacrifice that way. It would have been a much better "director's cut" if they had made that North Pole scene the final scene, IMHO.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 6:07 p.m. CST


    by TommyGavinsEgo

    Wise words.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Bring back SINGER and ROUTH!!!!!

    by FleshMachine a perfect blend of old and new.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Bring back SINGER and ROUTH!!!!!

    by FleshMachine

    auperman returns perfect? a perfect blend of old and new.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 6:17 p.m. CST

    RIP Boner

    by Chief Joseph

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 6:22 p.m. CST


    by @gape

    Thanks, man. Some people think that the hokey truck-driver scene should be the last scene, but even if you correct the reverse-the-world rehash, it still doesn't fly with superman's character. Superman doesn't seek revenge, or personal retaliaition. So I'd just stop it at that North Pole scene, which is gut-wrenching. One of the best acted scenes in the two films.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 6:26 p.m. CST

    by @gape

    Actually, come to think of it, the rebuilding of the rotundra of the White House, and the space flight might be the way to close. However, with the uber-edit, one would want to get rid of the space flight at the end of the first film to make it more impressive at the end of the second half.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 6:56 p.m. CST

    The Donner Superman movies were bloated and boring

    by toadkillerdog

    For the most part. I understand now what he was attempting to do - to make an epic American Fable, but it failed as all subsequent Superman movies have failed, because he ignored the reason the folks want to see an action adventure based Superhero movie. Namely: Action. <p> Yes, Supe II the best of all of them, was memorable only because of the big fight scene. <p>

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 7:04 p.m. CST

    I looooove all things Superman

    by liljuniorbrown

    I liked Superman Returns but it pissed me off at how little action occured in the movie. It was almost like an origin story/bad romantic lifetime movie. The only good reason to have a Lois/ Superman love child in my opinion is so that some big bad like Brainiac or DoomsDay could come along and destroy it setting up the "angry God" concept that Singer wanted to go with in the sequel. Problem is he fucked up the first one so bad nobody wanted his sequel. When you look at everybodys post on here it's clear we all want the same thing from a reboot..good story telling,action, and REAL villans. I'm praying that Goyer and Nolan are really doing this together .If it's done in the same vein as The Dark Knight it could make that much money if not more.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 7:05 p.m. CST

    Goyer is a hack

    by Newmark

    Everything he worked on, that didn't have some talented director to drive him, was disappointing at least.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Billy Zane as President Luthor and

    by liljuniorbrown

    Keifer Sutherland or even Kevin Spacey as the voice of Brainiac. All we want to see is a real balls out Superman. We want to see him pissed off, punching and kicking bad guys at full force. Bring out another kryptonian like Zod or a Zod type. Put the earth in some real peril.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 7:14 p.m. CST

    hey Woo made Broken Arrow and Face Off

    by ominus

    just saying

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 7:21 p.m. CST


    by toadkillerdog

    Absolutely! I am sick an tired of Luthor though - although I agree that Zane would be a very good choice. But we need a kick ass superman movie. There is no law that says a great story can not have great action. The producers have been wedded to the wrong concept - Donners, of Supes ever since the first movie: Reverent and slow moving, filled with visual queues to present an idealized - and sterile, version of Americana interrupted only by Lex Luthors occasional real estate scheme. Yeah, occasional - as in every damn movie.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 7:44 p.m. CST

    "You're out of your mind."

    by TedKordLives

    "Yeah. Ain't it cool?" <P> Just sayin'

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 8:08 p.m. CST

    How About BIZARRO????

    by plisskenman

    Bizarro would work as the next supes villain.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 8:56 p.m. CST


    by MR. MURDOCH

    ...Neither will Singer. They have both been "off the project" for a long, long time. Pretty much waaay back in early 2007 when Variety announced that Singer's "writers" were "departing" the project was when this "Superman 3.0" began to formulate. All this should be pretty obvious to "all but the most casual observer." Warner Bros. is ready to begin anew -- this time, with less Donner-isms (i.e. NONE) more action, more mythology, and most importantly, more FUN.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 8:57 p.m. CST

    And it's ABOUT F-ING TIME...

    by MR. MURDOCH

    That's all I can say...

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 9:16 p.m. CST

    The end of Superman II Creeped Me Out as a Kid

    by Autodidact

    Even when I was like 8 and Superman II was being shown on TV for the first time, I found it creepy as hell. "Wait, Superman just spent the whole movie with HIS DICK INSIDE that chick and now he just gave her a SUPER ROOFY KISS? 'THE FUCK!?" (I was advanced for my age).

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 9:19 p.m. CST

    The Best Comic Book Movie is Punisher: War Zone

    by Autodidact

    Know why? Because they didn't try to say "how do we make this appeal to women also?" I'm so fucking sick of everything being made to appeal to the broadest marketing demographic. And here's where the marketing addled nitwits explain to me why things have to be that way. I GET IT, YOU CUNTS. I just don't think everything has to be that way. By maximizing profits on everything you reduce the value of the entire human experience. You fucking vapid whores.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 9:27 p.m. CST

    by plisskenman

    Jon Hamm as Superman works, no weak young guy in the role. Rose Byrne - Lois Lane worksd as well, she is very talented.

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 9:36 p.m. CST


    by plisskenman

    ROSE BYRNE AS LOIS LANE!!! Make It So Number One...

  • Feb. 25, 2010, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Not that Superman shouldn't appeal to women

    by Autodidact

    Just don't go giving him a super-kid and making him an impotent fucking jerk.

  • Feb. 26, 2010, 3:03 a.m. CST

    For FUCK'S sake...

    by Trancer

    Could we EVER have a Superman movie WITHOUT Lex Luthor? How about going completely sci-fi - as in off-planet - with maybe Darkseid as the antagonist. Let me guess, Lex Luthor makes a deal with Braniac: Lex helps Braniac get Superman, and with him out of commission, Braniac helps Lex crash the moon into the Earth so Lex can get rich by selling lunar real-estate...

  • Feb. 26, 2010, 4:05 a.m. CST

    Lee Pace for Superman

    by dailysportspages

    Lee Pace: Clark/Superman <br> Anna Friel: Lois Lane<br> Perry White: Chi McBride<br> Stephen Root: Lex Luthor<br> Kristin Chenoweth: Cat Grant<br> <br><br> Ok, so im kidding with most of this. But Lee Pace and Anna Friel have great chemistry together, and they would make a really good Clark/Lois combo.

  • Feb. 26, 2010, 4:46 a.m. CST

    Brendan Fraser for Supes!!

    by Damien Chowder

    I kid, I kid. Though a googly eyed - dum as fook Supes would be interesting... I'd rather kill myself.

  • Feb. 26, 2010, 6:23 a.m. CST


    by VinnyMac666


  • Feb. 26, 2010, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Brendan Frasier

    by TakingScorpiosCalls

    Should play the rivla to Xena Warrior Princess like in the SNL sketch.