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Have no fear... The Man Of Bronze is in the best hands! DOC SAVAGE is on his way!
Hey folks, Harry here with an update on a story I broke back in October of last year! There isn't exactly a single new twist to the story I broke back in October... If you remember, I broke that Shane Black was writing the script for DOC SAVAGE, and his producer was Neal Moritz. That's all still the case. The new wrinkle is this. Apparently, SHANE BLACK is directing it now too!!! And that Columbia Pictures has decided to announce they're doing it. Well... Color me happy as hell. This is great news. The article mentions that Anthony Bagarozzi and Chuck Mondry have been working with Shane... but frankly, that Shane is directing now - and knowing that he is involved as the writer as well... This is incredibly exciting. Shane is one of the best writers around and his KISS KISS BANG BANG is at least for me, a high rotation title - along with everything he's written and worked on. Let's see how casting goes! I know from talking with Shane this will be period, will have Doc's team and is going to be a shit ton of fun. Variety 'broke' this 'officially'
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I guess
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Boring.
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Bank on it.
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I believe this is what you call Cool News, Harold!
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Doc Savage was fun to read. On the screen? Not so much. Throw him and The Shadow together in a film and you might have something.
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Just kidding Harry ;)
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George Hamilton <P> 'nuff said
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Not another reboot of a mediocre 1980s series with vague nostalgia value. Or another comic book character with origin story. Or a redundant sequel to an aging movie franchise. Or a movie based on a cartoon created to sell toys. Hell, Hollywood really hasn't mined any of the potential of Pulp novels from the early 20th century. There's a whole lot they could go to there for inspiration.
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Feb. 22, 2010, 11:25 p.m. CST
It's a cross between James Bond and Indiana Jones!!!
by Bob Cryptonight
Should be awesome if done right!!!
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He's the son of Doc Savage Man of Bronze, but he only does the spray on tan since daddy died of melanoma on his nutsack.
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when I see Doc Savage mentioned, these days.
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will probably see this just for nostalgia's sake
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Shane Black is hit or miss. Lethal Weapon movies were good. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and Last Action Hero were awful in my book. Hopefully, he remembers his role in Predator and uses some of that.
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...deserves the benefit of the doubt. Not all wunderkinds are flashes-in-the-pan....? Let's hope for the best on t - h - i - s much-delayed p ro - ject
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please don't screw this up
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..with his "fists like buckets of gristle". Could be quite cool although most period versions haven't quite clicked (much as I've wanted them to).
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ahem
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get that out of the way
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Finally...
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back in October I broke this breaking news that broke and now its breaking again that the news I broke would re break in a new breaking way.<p>On a totally unrelated topic..Variety actually broke this news BUT the breaking news is that I'm gonna take all the credit.<p>Consider the news broken.
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...Did somebody have something "broke" at some point? Just curious.
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that is just sad. What else is awful..?...Christina Hendricks huge glorious titties? Sad.
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You beat me to it in a much more amusing way.
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Feb. 23, 2010, 12:14 a.m. CST
Doc Savage? The conservative talk show host nut job?
by Chuck_Chuckwalla
Just kidding. :)
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or sam worthington.<p>brilliant. i know.
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Oh yeah, all those 75 year olds are lining up to watch this.
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Not awful, but not that great either. OK? and yes...Titties rule!
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Johnson.
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That movie can suck a fat cock, right now. Marcus Nispel is about to drop a mega-turd on the hearts and minds of every R.E, Howard fan out there.
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for a few years now<p> Hope he reads a few of the books so he plays the character appropriately<br> And not as a screaming roided up drill seargent wrestling type character<p> I know he can do it, he's turned in some good performances and has really grown as an actor
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you might want to stick with Jersey Shore
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as a kid and loving it. I imagine it would probably suck balls if I watched it now as an adult, but I'm all for another silver screen outing for doc. Teddy and nipple, fully agree. Dwayne would fit this role like a glove.
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because that guy needs to work with a good, smart director who knows how to take advantage of his talents. Then maybe he'll understand he can do better than the moronic kiddy trash he decided to sentence himself to a couple years ago when his action career didn't take off.
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He deserves better than a guy no one outside the geek community has heard of.
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Here's another vote for the Rock. He's perfect. Make it so.
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Just keep Platinum Dunes or any of those other cunts away from it.
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...and yeah, this would be a neat....scratch that, really cool vehicle for The Rock, but it'd also be something that could just as easily be overlooked. <br><br>Dwayne, at this point, needs something big. And stunt casting, which really wouldn't be stunt casting at all given he's perfect for the role of Supes would be exactly what he needs to finally make a mark for himself in Hollywood after that attempt at being the next Schwarzenegger fizzled out with Doom. Just imagine the press his casting would get. The buzz alone would make it a massive hit.
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of both DOC SAVAGE & THE SHADOW back in the late 80s...in fact there was even a crossover between the 2 titles. Great reads. I hope the film is just as good. Cast my vote for The Rock as Clark Savage, Jr. as well! (He'd also make a great Captain Marvel in the upcoming SHAZAM movie!)
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But I am not sure how this property will go over. Sure, this is cool to every card carrying geek. But to the general public this is like "Man of what?". Of course, I assumed the same thing about Iron Man in the early stages, so who knows. I will be there at any rate.
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You had flying dude in a suit getting chased around by jets in the trailer. That's not something you've seen much of.
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the movie will be as bad as the ron ely version<p> so no thank you
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In the DVD player. And watch it over and over and over and over again.
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No, I'm knee deep in the pussy. I just love the name so much I don't want to get rid of it.
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Feb. 23, 2010, 3:08 a.m. CST
What, fuckhead? Who taught you grammar? Badly's an adverb.
by David Cloverfield
Get out. Vanish.
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Now THAT is a geek/sexual fantasy I'd like to see fulfilled. Hollywood, stop fucking about and make it happen!
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Abrams, Kurtzmanorci, McG, Bay, Sommers, Wiseman or Ratner. At least Shane Black has some genuine talent.
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Paul Malmont, author of the Chinatown Deathcloud Peril, is writing a new Doc Savage comic from DC coimg out in the Spring.
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and Doc Brass.
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looked just like a James Bama painting of Doc Savage.
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Hmm DOC SAVAGE with 'The Rock', directed by a guy famous for Eighties action flicks.<p> This is really worrying cos Harry and I were hoping this would be a bugnuts torture-porn coolio twit-fest like CABIN FEVER (or even CABIN FEVER 2)... but now it seems like it might just be god-awful like THE RUNNING MAN. Shame.
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Please no Matthew McConagay
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Because when KISS KISS BANG BANG came out, the title on the posters etc was 'LE KISS KISS BANG BANG DE SHANE BLACK'. Now that's respect.
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They will probably get some Hollywood, pretty boy pussy to play Doc...There are few real men left in Hollywood any more! Just pretty, test tube actor teen types that don't look tough enough to scare an effeminate 5th grader!
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I like The Rock. He's an affable, fun action lead. What he can't do, though, is convince an audience that his IQ is above 130. Doc's supposed to be a scientific and medical genius for fuck's sake; that's a bit more relevant than 'must have really big muscles.' Take a smart, GOOD actor and put him in the gym for a few months.
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because this does just sound amazing, but I hope Shane is left to do this thing by Columbia and they support him 100% and is given final cut?. I'm getting a league of extraordinary gentlemen vibe. Would hate to see that type saga play out. I'm rooting for this all the way!...sorry got a bit paranoid there for a moment.
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Yeah people don't just go to see movies or properties they have heard of. Iron man as you mentioned being a perfect example. watchmen another. love it or hate, people went to see it. I've never understood the cry of "anyone outside the geek world won't give a shit". It's all press and promoton and if it's sold right they will go no matter what shit it is.
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The problem is they may have waited too long. Arnie's got the perfect build, and Doc is supposed to be nearly expressionless, so his acting style would work for the character. But he may be too old. The Rock? Not really. They may have to look around for an unknown to step into those demanding shoes. I just hope they don't make the mistake of making it a modern day adventure. It's got to be set in the art deco world of the 1930s to work right.
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KKBB is one of my all time faves, was hoping Shane Black would get another opportunity to write/direct, Doc Savage is just the cherry on the pie. Expecting good things for this one
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Feb. 23, 2010, 6:55 a.m. CST
...Dear AICN, I never thought I'd be writing to you, but...
by FlickaPoo
...after my recent news breaking experience, I just had to share my steamy breaking story! I was dosing on my couch one night, and the phone suddenly began to squeal, causing me jerk awake and whip my hand out of the front of my pants...I blinked my eyes, trying to figure out what was happening.<P>Well, when I finally picked up the phone, I would have to wonder no more. A fresh and tasty bit of news was on the line, and sounded like it was just begging to be broken! In viscous tones the news told me it had already been broken five times that night, but it still had an aching void inside, an aching void just waiting to be filled by me!<P>I don't know what made me think to do it, since I was already talking to some wantonly pulsing news on the phone, but I got up and opened the front door. When I open the door the very hot news I was already talking to was standing right there in front of me!! The news slowly licked its cell phone and tossed it over its shoulder...it was going to need BOTH hands to deal with MY glistening sausage link.<P>In an instant the news grabbed the glistening sausage link out of my mouth and said "well, what are you waiting for big boy? Are you going to stand there chewing or are you going to break me?"<P>I didn't have to be asked twice I can tell you. Well, actually I did, I made the news beg for it...but when I finally broke it, I broke it like it had never been broken before. I just kept breaking it and breaking it, and then this uppity bit of news taught me three new ways to break I hadn't even heard about before!<P>It was easily the single most amazing eight minutes of my life. When I finally recovered enough to stand upright, this inexhaustible piece of news just laughed and said "that's all you got big boy? I guess I'll have to be officially broken by Variety"...and strutted right out of my life.<P>I was disappointed, but it was worth it. What a night!!!<P>Broken and Panting, Austin, TX
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EVAH! Wife sold two stories to Harlequin then got asked to do two more and now this!<p>Is it wrong of me to get a chub over this news? Shane Black is one of my favorite writers of all time and Doc Savage is one of my favorite characters. I feel like it's Christmas.
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I been a fan of Doc and his crew since I was a kid. The character designs of Doc's five are very important, one of the best visuals of Monk Mayfair and Doc Savage is in the Rocketeer by Dave Stevens. The books have a larger than life quality to them, lots of physical amplifications: Renny's giant hands, Monk's ape like look, Ham's eagle nose, Long Tom's giant ears and pale skin, Johnny's skeleton frame... Animation would have been the best medium for the character, either with 2D with some fantastic character design or with CGI.. These fellows were the original X-men team. I hope they do them justice they deserve so much.. tons of characters have ripped off Doc Savage and it would be nice to see the first creator of the original fortress of solitude.
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. . . and I, too, fear another League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Ugggghhhhh . . .
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. . . was based at least partly on Doc Savage. So I guess this will likely turn out to be Buckaroo Banzai without the laughs and brilliance. Not really looking forward to this.
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I'm not complaining, but how is Columbia doing this? Isn't Doc a DC/WB property?
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Bloody perfection!
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I guess those are the only stories he cares to tell us about.
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And let's hope they don't try to force him to meet some arbitrary premiere date. Bc the best movies are always made that way!
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Need to be quicker with the news, guys...
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A Moby Dick remake with DRAGONS! It's a fantasy indie called "Dragon Fire" and Moby Dick is now a white dragon, but all the names from Melville's original text are still the same. And Vinnie Jones plays Stubb. Now that's Cool News indeed!
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...last October I got a little too drunk and and fooled around with a well known movie geek. I only let him get to "second base", and I've tried to ignore him ever since, but he keeps going on and on about how he "broke" me. He's keeps boasting about how he broke me like I've never been broken before, that he broke me like no other geek could...it's making me very uncomfortable.<P>I've tried avoiding him, but I think he's obsessed. Is this normal? What should I do?<P>Signed,<P> Savage But Still Single
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Try using the word "broke" more, it will make everything clearer.
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Lang not only has the build, he's an amazing actor. He may be a little old to be bankable for a Hollywood movie, but I for one would love to see him in that role.
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... and i dont care... Black is cool, but TO ME nothin is cool before the 70s... im tired of "pulp" and "golden/silver age"... also, this will fail
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That's a great idea. He's a brutist looking man with the eyes of a poet. The guy has an intimidating look, and intelligent face a spades of charisma. Won't happen of course, but still.
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I think the Rock is an excellent choice for Doc. Christina Cox would be a Good choice for Doc's cousin Pat. I also think the "Monk" character is going to be a bitch to cast. 5'2 and 260 lbs. all muscle. good luck.
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Starring Hayden Christiansen. Seriously. Where's my check?
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I never thought about Johnson for the role, but he could be really good if he can pull it off. It'd be a hell of a challenge for him as an actor, because he'd need to bust out some new tools. Johnson's charisma is powerful, but it's heavily rooted in affability and approachability -- you just plain *like* the guy, and he's got a great ability to make friends with the audience. (This is why I think Moriarty was right, and he would be a great Captain Marvel.) Doc requires a different toolset: he's reserved, intellectual, often a little uncomfortable in social situations due to the unusual nature of his upbringing. When you see Johnson in a lot of his roles, you think, "Man, what a cool guy, I'd enjoy hanging out with him." When you see Doc Savage, you need to think, "...whoa." If I were Shane Black, I'd definitely give Johnson a screen test. Of a very, very serious scene, where Doc Savage is impressive but a little off-putting. See if Johnson's charisma translates.
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...a good villain this time? Even he admits it's his greatest weakness as a writer. And he's right, there's not a single really memorable good villain in any of his movies he wrote or directed.
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Amiright or amiright?
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Ray Stevenson should be in more movies. He can play anything, from drama to kick-ass action, as shown in ROME. A shakespearean actor who is built like an ox and can be extremely believable as a major ass kicker. This guy is the real deal.<br><br>For a complete package, why not also hire two other ass-kickers from ROME for the movie too, namely, James Purefoy and Kevin McKidd?
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...or is he a sedimentary rock? anyway here is the greatest quote bout suicide "im a pimp, and pimps dont commit suicide"... Southland tales, very underrated and very weird
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Shane Black STARED in Predator, he didn't wrote it.
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"No one rocks the cock like Krsta Now"...
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Feb. 23, 2010, 10:24 a.m. CST
Will somebody bring up the guy with the girly hair from LOST?
by AsimovLives
Will somebody bring up the guy with the girly hair from LOST? Because there were some deluded folks who though that such an emo girly haired she-male would be good to play uber-mensh Snake plissken. Will they also name him to play Doc Savage, a character who is both mensh and a brillant intellectual? Because what that girly haired dude exudes both manliness and intellectual prowness. Yeah, right!! Girly haired LOST dude!!!
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I'm a lawyah! I win! It's what I do!
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Because you have NO GOOD reason why he'd be bad for Snake. <p> Im a lawyah!
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"Man, you are one pathetic loser. No offense."
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Best film news I've heard all week! For awhile now I've been wondering why Shane Black hasn't directed anything else since Kiss Kiss (the last decent Downey film next to Zodiac imo)
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Gets my vote. Looking forward to this.
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Done properly it could be Rocketeer meets The Avengers...
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My favorite film.
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HERE http://tinyurl.com/yzg7lz4
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Feb. 23, 2010, 10:47 a.m. CST
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by iloveaicn
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You know what's pretty girly, though, Asi? Calling someone who could literally pound you into ground chuck "girly" because of a priaptic hate boner you have for the work of a producer who cast him in a popular show. You could have a steel wool mohawk garnished with entrails, and Josh Holloway and his "girly hair" would still make you seem like a weepy Mary Poppins in comparison. <p> If you're going to insist on your ridiculous crusade, expect to be appropriately mocked for it. Girly man.
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Dude looks he was manufactured to be on a shampoo commercial. Guys, don't go all Gay For JayJay just because the girly haired dude stars in your beloved hack's so-called created over-rated TV show.
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Don't go GAY FOR JAYJAY on me, friend.
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You're a lost cause. Have fun ranting, I'm done trying to reason with you, there's no point.
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I just ate up the Bantam editions of Doc Savage. Renny, Long-Tom, Johnny, Ham, and Monk. Great stuff. It would be so easy to make this nut suck by just having respect for the characters and source material. But Hollywood will fuck it up, no doubt.
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Actually, I hope the MOVIE will be good…
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And intelligently debate this topic instead of reverting to your stale and offensive "Gay for JJ" sentiments, which have 100% NOTHING to do with Josh Holloway. You can't do it. You were challenged before and you shied away.
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Feb. 23, 2010, 11:06 a.m. CST
Save the Rock for Race Bannon in "Jonny Quest"
by The Reluctant Austinite
I'm not a huge Dwayne Johnson fan, but I've thought for a while that he has the perfect charm and heroic nature to play Race Bannon. All you've got to do is die his hair silver/grey. As far as Doc Savage goes, I just hope Ron Ely gets to cameo as Doc's father (even if it's only in a portrait). Ron Ely is just such a cool guy, it would be fun to see him on screen again. This is COOL NEWS, btw.
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This had better be done right. A period piece. Cool gadgets.
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<p>Arjen. Lethal Weapon 2. Slimy, sexist, racist. Great villain.</p> <p>"Diplomatic immunity!"</p>
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The man oozes charisma and is becoming a better actor with every turn. He needs a franchise.
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Feb. 23, 2010, 11:27 a.m. CST
AICN - making it hard for me to keep checking your page
by Anything But Tangerines
PLEASE fix whatever shit is wrong that now every time I even reload, I get a keychain message. It's not signing me out, just keeps asking to access my keychain. DENY-DENY_DENY! ANNOYING!
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Sharktopus in production, directed by Roger Corman. <p> Mark Strong cast as Sinestro in Green Lantern <p> Ian Mcshane looks to be cast as Blackbeard in Pirates 4 <p> Danny Glover as Captain Ahab in a fantasy indie adaptation of Moby Dick with a white dragon instead of a white whale<p> Bruce Willis talks Lethal Weapon 5 <p>COOL NEWS WE DID GET: <p> Shane Black directing Doc Savage <p> Kevin Smith making hockey movie with Sean William Scott <p> American Pie 4 in the works... <p> Anyone notice the disparity?
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Feb. 23, 2010, 11:35 a.m. CST
D.Vader, no Stephen Chow/way of the dragon?
by Player_Two_has_entered_the_game
Good but no banana, bud.
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(and I think you may have meant "Die Hard 5", saying he'd bring back the "Live Free or Die Hard" director.)<br><br> Also Wesley Snipes said he was up for a "Blade 4"<br><br> While none of this is technically more than talk, it's talk from the principle players and the kind of thing that is put out there to gauge fan reaction and see if it's worth pursuing. Cheerleading for (or against) these kinds of projects getting made used to be part of AICN. Now it's mostly "Who wants to attend a screening" posts.
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I just saw the headline this morning; didn't read the story. Headline suggested it was "possibly" a remake, but maybe its not?
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Feb. 23, 2010, 11:40 a.m. CST
seriously, AsimovLives. You are preteen right?
by Player_Two_has_entered_the_game
Gotta be. I'll put money on it! If not you have no excuse for being such a child.
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Not to play Doc, but to play the Chimp - Chemistry. <p> Yeah, the only name brand actor working today who can carry off the role is The Rock -and he is a decent actor.<p> Doc Savage - who is my all time favorite pulp action character, does not require a Royal Shakespearean level thespian. <p> My biggest concern is not with The Rock as Doc, but with the script. I loved reading the reprints in the seventies when I was a child, and I loved the marvel B&W mag. But even back then, I realized that Doc and his associates, lived a very, very strange life that if ever put on the big screen, would lend itself to being mocked. And that is exactly what we got. A high camp movie - which I still enjoyed the hell out of. <p> If the new movie is to be taken seriously, then it might require some of the cherished pulp attributes be either jettisoned, or at least underplayed.
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Not 100% confirmed. Could be bullshit.
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In the hockey story, but that wasn't mentioned either.
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Babe, or Wilbur?
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He needs the work, and maybe he needs to act a little 'gangsta' to shed his sweet image. Ok, I say at least give him a screen test.
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Feb. 23, 2010, 11:50 a.m. CST
Race Bannon or Doc Savage? What do you guys think?
by The Reluctant Austinite
Do you guys think the Rock would be a better Race Bannon in "Jonny Quest" or a better "Doc Savage"? Harry, chime in on this if you're in da house.
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The Rock is 6'4" and even that is not exactly tall for Doc, but you could cast shorter guys for The Five, except for long Tom and Renny.
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It would be same ol same ol. Safe yeah, but I doubt it would give him a franchise either.
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Feb. 23, 2010, 12:15 p.m. CST
I'm pretty sure they could solve the hight issue through...
by Dr.DirtyD
the magic of movie making. business as usual.
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The movie should start with this crawl:<p>Let me strive every moment of my life, to make myself better and better, to the best of my ability that all may profit by it.<p>Let me think of the right and lend all my assistance to those who need it, with no regard for anything but justice.<p>Let me take what comes with a smile, without loss of courage.<p>Let me be considerate of my country, of my fellow citizens and my associates everything I say and do.<p>Let me do right to all, and wrong no man.<p>And they really need to set it in the 1930s.
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Adam Baldwin (Jane from 'Firefly'/'Serenity') would be perfect as Doc Savage.
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Feb. 23, 2010, 12:52 p.m. CST
Wow - someone with talent actually got a directing gig!
by venvariants
Shane Black on this project means it's in good hands. The main question is this: will it be a classic like the 70's film?? I kid, I kid...
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he must have lost a bet and honerd it
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<p>The movie's made $82 million.</p> <p>He doesn't need to live anything down. He's too busy cashing his fat checks.</p>
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scientist without it being a fucking joke?
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Perception can sometimes equal reality for lots of folks, but the best way to combat that is to showcase his intelligence away from the screen. By that, I mean carefully chosen interviews and appearances that allow him to demonstrate that he is not just a football/wrestler tuned actor. Just by listening to his past interviews, you can tell the man is not dumb, but his roles have been. <p> I remember when Vin Diesel (who thankfully is not being mentioned) was getting early pub for just his muscles, then his PR flacks started telling people just how smart Vinny really is, that he is an accomplished writer etc. etc. It did changed the geeks perception of Vinny. It can change the perception of The Rock as well.<p> But it will all come down to the performance - and the script.
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...apparently his aides never expected him to do so well in Iowa...when he came in second they were all...oh fuck! What if this asshole wins? We can't live with that!...
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I want to be pissed off, coz I'm drunk, and feeling sorry for myself, but even in my inebriated state, I can honestly say, without any trace of sentiment, that this is good news. But Christ, I miss the scent of mmy ex.
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No matter who is cast and what the story may be, they need to play it as straight as they can. No booming baritone announcer, no "patriotic" music and no twinkles in Doc's eye. This can be done. If they have a problem figuring out how, they should read some of the comics. Azarello's upcoming "First Wave" plays Doc completely straight and mostly works.
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I've seen the movie, but I've never read any of the books, and I'm not sure where to start. Can any of you magnificent bastards help me out? I'd like to read them in chronological order, if possible. Thanks, chums.
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I don't understand the fascination with wasting good money on geriatric pulp properties like this when it's just going to wind up another The Shadow or Dick Tracy or The Phantom--no amount of cutting edge special effects can remove the corniness of characters that have been irrelevant for generations.
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The first is "The Man of Bronze," from March, 1933. It introduces the characters and situations but isn't particularly well-written. Lester Dent, who wrote more than half the 181 pulps, took a while to get moving. Here's Wikipedia's list of all the stories: http://tinyurl.com/68b4xj
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Doc Savage and the Shadow are no more corny than Batman. The Phantom, except for his costume, makes the classic Batman look like a weakling. It's all about interpretation.
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Battle_Royale_with_cheese, Nostalgia Ventures is doing pulp facsimile two-in-one reprints (you can see their catalog here: http://bit.ly/8ZiirJ ). They're not in chronological order, alas, but they're reprinting the straight-up best stories. I'd recommend either the first in the series ("Fortress of Solitude"/"The Devil Genghis") or the second ("Repel"/"Resurrection Day"); they're straight-up awesome. "Repel" is my personal favorite Doc Savage adventure -- high stakes, action that goes from fist-fights to epic city destruction, and a brilliantly diabolical gay dwarf supervillain. (Seriously.)
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Read #1 - Man of Bronze - available from and #2 Land of Terror to get you going. Anthony Tollin is redoing these - his site is: www.shadowsanctum.com - and there are a bunch for sale.
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They were great! "Repel," "The Devil Genghis," "Resurrection Day," "The Freckled Shark." My favorite titles are "According to Plan of a One-Eyed Mystic" and "The Men Who Smiled No More." That last is so evocative.
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KEVIN FUCKING MCKIDD.
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Cheer up man. It gets better. Go tear into every ass you can get and take a long trip.
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Even if the early stories aren't so hot, I'm weird about chronology, so I'll start there.
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Doc Savage: Stephen Lang <br> Clark Savage III: Dwayne Johnson<br> John Sunlight: Dolph Lundgren<br> Ham: Michael Sheen<br> Monk: Michael Chiklis<br> Litlejohn: Hugh Laurie<br> Long Tom: Giovani Ribisi<br> Renny: Michael Clarke Duncan<br>
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Would be perfect. Not sure about Shane Black as writer/director ...but he deserves way more than the benefit of the doubt.
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We need someone with abs and a distinctive orange hue to his skin, right? ... Making his motion picture debut as Doc Savage, The Man of Bronze ... someone the "kids" will come out to see ... straight from the Jersey Shore, it's THE SITUATION!!!
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http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2357/savagefd2.jpg
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is the blurb from the Bantam paperbacks: "To the world at large, Doc Savage is a strange, mysterious figure of glistening bronze skin and golden eyes. To his amazing co-adventurers-- the five greatest brains ever assembled in one group-- he is a man of superhuman strength and protean genius, whose life is dedicated to the destruction of evil doers. To his fans he is the greatest adventure hero of all time, whose fantastic exploits are unequaled for hair-raising thrills, breathtaking escapes and blood-curdling excitement." End quote. The character dates from the 1930's , so some, but far fewer than one would expect, stereotypes do appear in the books. Doc was ahead of his time in many regards, had a "Fortress of Solitude" before Superman, and a neck pinch like Spock's. Hope this is good.
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Josh Holloway from Lost IS Doc Savage! That's IT!!!
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dang 404 errors
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one more time.
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Is the best choice. Only an idiot would cast the Rock.
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Perfection.
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Sam Worthington is Doc Savage
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Sam Worthington is Doc Savage
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What's the deal with the site...can't see the messages
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....he'd be awful in this.
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You're right about one thing. Some aspect need to be downplayed. I love the Doc Savage mythos, but agree with a TIME magazine item from many years back which stated that his supposedly uber-competent aides came across as a cub scout Beaver Patrol on an overnight hike. Monk and Ham's rivalry in particular needs to be cut back a few notches, or it gets tiresome.
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the material and character is just to dated to work today without a major overhall and if you're going to do a major overhall why even call it Doc Savage. No one under the age of 35 knows who the hell Savage is and certainly isn't nostalgic for it.
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well then that completely defeats the whole conceit of the character. Doc Savage is the best that White European Western culture was capable of achieving.
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Daniel Craig would be a great Doc Savage. Some one mentioned Kevin Mckidd, not a bad choice either.
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Feb. 24, 2010, 11:29 a.m. CST
I think The Rock is wrong for the role - punning
by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes
But yeah, I just do not see him overcoming that hurdle, and even if he is really smart in real life, I just do not see him pulling it off. Besides, they can get a smaller actor and either beef him up, or just make him a leaner meaner version.
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I like Craig as an older, cynical Bond (however much I hated QUANTUM) but he simply couldn't pull off Doc. He just doesn't look like he's got the physique to do half the things Doc does.
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Either Stephen Lang and Dwayne Johnson as Doc Savage? Are you all insane? Stephen Lang is about 20 years too old and Dwayne Johnson is about 200 IQ points too short. Doc is what his name says, he's a DOCTOR! Maybe Lang could play a doctor but he would have to be the old one who taught Doc, and I can't believe anyone would seriously believe the Rock is a surgeon. Come on Josh Holloway is Doc Savage.
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Feb. 24, 2010, 3:52 p.m. CST
Savage does not need to be supertall or a bodybuilder.
by dailysportspages
He also is not Black of Polynesian looking.<br> Like someone else said, the point of Savage was that he was a white guy in exotic places, or that he was a white guy who could blend in when spying because he was just another white guy. <br> <br> You could put a Dwayne Johnson in the created character of his son. <br> A kid had in Mexico or Alaska or in any of the other places where he has made some sort of a home or spent considerable time in. <br> The mythos have him being really good friends with a Mayan tribe as well as an Inuit tribe. <br> The Rock could very easily be the son he had with either of these peoples.<br> In fact if i remember correctly Savage does marry a Mayan princess and has a son by her. Clark III. <br> And Doc Savage could be old in this story, needed for one last adventure. Dying at the end but not before having his son promise him to continue to follow his mission statement and take over the mantle of Doc Savage <br> So Lang is Doc Savage for most of the movie, but the Rock takes over at the very end. <br> And if they decide to make sequels you can continue them with him as the new Doc Savage.<br> With the Docs gang there to help him through the transition.<br> <br> <br> Then again, who says he needs to be 6'5, much less 6'8 as how some people remember him?<br> Who says he needs to be built like Arnold?<br><br> All that is BS if you read the original novels.<br> Like ive told people in the Conan talkback... writers back in the day thought that someone who was 6'1 200 lbs was HUGE. <br> So you will see lots of adjectives about his height and weight... but you cant take those adjectives and use our modern definitions on them. <br> <br> There is a clue about Docs height when his companion Renny is introduced or is around. He is billed as being a giant, towering over everyone else including Savage. A mountain of a man who was an astonishing 6'4 and 250 lbs.<br> So its obvious to me that while Doc was a big man, he was not a big man in the way we consider a big man today.<br> He was the size of your average athletic guy who works out.<br> Probably around 6'1 or 6'2 and between 200 and 225 lbs.<br> <br> Watch it be some newcomer like Kellen Lutz or something.
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Love the books as a kid, and considering where fan films were in the 60s Ron Ely was not too bad, but now in the post-Avatar world of fantasy meets reality, the original illustrations by James Bama are the quintessential imagery on which to create the look and feel of these characters whether the actors doing the emoting themselves are Sam Worthington, Steven Laing, the Rock, or Clint Eastwood for Doc , or any of a zillion others for the rest of Doc's companions...and who, will play the incestuous love interest? There's obviously an allusion to a mysterious breeding program going on, a la Phillip Jose' Farmer's concepts from the world of heroes and the forever feast.
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Google them, they look the part, have the size and body build to play Savage.
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Loved the books as a kid and was disappointed with the campy George Pal movie, but still love Doc and the Fabulous Five. But I am also wary that the material may be too dated for modern audiences unless it comes off like Indiana Jones, and they even were able to screw up that one. I just am afraid it will fail like other period pieces, e.g. The Rocketeer, The Shadow, etc.
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Because that's the height he's given in one novel. He towers over other people and barely clears normal doorway. It's just that his build is so well proportioned that this isn't evident until he's next to other people or standing by objects who can give scale reference. Even if 6'8" is deemed too much, he shouldn't be much less than 6'5" as he's routinely given to feats of physical prowess which would be hard to credit a smaller man.
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In the majority of them he is supposed to be shorter and less built than Renny who is 6'4 and 250. <br> People have this misconception that Doc Savage = Race Bannon = Brock Sampson <br> Those guys are the muscle for whomever the "hero" character is in those stories. <br> In the Doc Savage stories that muscle character would be Renny. And Savage would be the hero scientist guy. <br> He just happens to also be athletic and have a nice build. <br> Just not a huge mountain of a man like Renny. <br> Remember that the average height and weight of a normal man back then was much smaller than it is today. <br> The big heavyweight champions in boxing were usually guys 5'11 and 210 lbs. <br> The best center in the NBA was 6'8 and 220. <br> Football players were much much smaller. <br> Brock would be the size of your average "hunk" of today. Anyone above 6 feet tall with a strong jaw and a decent workout regimen would be more than enough. <br>
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