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‘You Better Put That Down Now!!’ 24 8.9!!
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I am not into this season at all; it could be the worst we’ve seen yet. Its well of anti-terror ideas appears to be running very dry.
Last week the Olympics bumped “24” to its season low in the 18-49 demo – a 2.8, which is well into “Lie To Me” territory:
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2.2 (2.7) (2.7) (2.7) (3.0) (2.4) (2.9) (2.8) (3.1) (2.9) Lie To Me
I did think of another candidate to replace Kiefer Sutherland if he decides not to return next year. Jason Isaacs.
Fox says:
As Jack Bauer enters the early morning hours, the nation remains vulnerable and President Taylor presses on with her international peace process. With the possibility of colossal failure facing CTU, people start looking at who is to blame and things get personal when operatives take matters into their own hands. Guest Cast: Akbar Kurtha as Farhad Hassan; Mido Hamada as Samir; Ethan Rains as Ali; Rami Malek as Marcos Al-Zacar; Merle Dandridge as Kristen Smith; Jergen Prochnow as Sergi Bazhaev; David Anders as Josef Bazhaev; Julian Morris as Agent Owens; Clayne Crawford as Kevin Wade; Michael Filipowich as Nick Coughlin.
9 p.m. Monday. Fox.
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Feb 22, 2010 12:31:50 AM CST
Hears hoping tonight shifts the plot into 24 zone red suspense w
by jackboner
My 1st ever post and im first?
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It should end before it gets canceled.
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I never could enjoy the show after the pulled out all these Bauer family members that were evil (brother/father/etc). Oh well...
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yet to see any in 8 however
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complete awesome season since S5. S6 was garbage, and there was no coming back after they nuked friggin LA in Episode 4. S7 was a nice way of the producers apologizing for S6, but just didn't quite have it all. That being said, I agree with JackBoner that it DID have some cool moments (the White House siege comes to mind, despite its being absolutely preposterous.) There's not enough emphasis on Jack this season! I could care less about the presidential stuff (Palmer family = 1000% more interesting) and we all agree that the hillbilly subplot has surplanted the Cougar Saga from S2.
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More SoulPatch=higher ratings.
The handling of Tony's character last year was a disgrace. This season is what they get.
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where the hell is the Damages talkback?...Season 3 is kicking some serios ass...way better then 24 which is trying to go for the 'Eastern Promises' vibe this season and failing miserably
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I think you're all looking for an excuse to hate something (what's new?) and, of course, 24 seems to be an easy target. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this season at all. It's engaging, compelling and thoroughly entertaining. If 24 isn't doing it for you, switch it off and stop fucking moaning.
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24 needs a new threat. Let them find out Canada wants to go nuclear. Have a crisis in an actual country outside the US that threatens to spill over into the US. Have some lone average nutbag turn out to be an excellent foil against Jack Bauer. But please not another terrorist.
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That was execrable.
This season has had some good moments so far. Ms Stabbalot was a highlight. Now that Sark is in control and Starbuck is about to execute some frakking rednecks it might get really good. Here's hoping. -
"Have some lone average nutbag turn out to be an excellent foil against Jack Bauer."
That's an excellent point. The latter half of S3, with Stephen Saunders, was absolutely riveting and some of the best stuff they have done. Jack against a lone genius, Joker vs Batman style, could be epic. -
The starbuck storyline with the rednecks is some boring shit. It may in fact be as bad as Kim-kidnapped-by-suvivalist and Kim-menaced-by-cougar.
There isn't a single coherant plot thread yet. It's all a haphazard mess. There's a foreign president signing a treaty with the US president, but his brother tries to launch a coup against him (and kill him) which makes this president go all paranoid nutso. The brother is continuing with the coup and is trying to buy nuclear material from David Anders. Why? I don't know. Is there any more certain way to guarantee that the US will "liberate" the shit out of your country, than to be known as the guy who brought nuclear material to America for a terrorist act?
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That's what she said.
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Hasn't been very good for a while now.
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S6 was just a mess! You better reboot that now!! Would have been great to let Jack escape Prison Break Style - just better and in real time. This season slowly builds up - a good sign! The whiners are similar to the ones who want immediate answers to all the questions LOST has raised. And they don't wanna wait 'til the finale. Let's wait what they have in store for us - enjoy the ride - and have'em get Tony back and redeemed, now that he's alive. 24 - The Movie - Jack and Tony against Terrorists on European soil. EPIC!
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Yeah, this season is weak. Jack has not been taking a back seat to crazy lady. I still don't understand her new backstory at all. Sometimes her past with the arms dealers seems like it happened before she met Jack but then maybe after??? And even when she went nuts and stabbed the guy to death... they do that same basic plot almost EVERY year: they need info from a bad guy, to get that info they put into play his girlfriend who now knows he's scum and then she always goes postal and kills him. So, been there, done that.
Despite the crazy nukes on the loose there is no impending disaster. Yes, bad the nukes are in the USA but nobody is talking about blowing them up here (maybe the producers are timid about threatening to blow a bomb up in NY). The crazy foreign Pres is not crazy enough for that to be good drama either. His hair is still crazier than he is.
And the Starbuck plot is also old hat. Another plot they redo over and over. I'd give them credit if she just went out, killed the hillbillies and got away with it. No repercussions or anything. That would be ballsy. Or for irony, have Starbuck kill them by tricking them into a cage with a cougar. -
Reading this talkback, I feel like I'm watching a completely different show to everyone else. Yes, the Katee Sackhoff storyline is a little silly and yes, it's time to move on from generic Middle Eastern terrorists but, for me, the show seems to dialed itself down a little and is hugely benefitting from its smaller scale. Personally, I feel it's the strongest season since Seasons 1 and 3 (another year that everyone inexplicably pounded on the show). It's nice to see a season of 24 that seems to want to build to a conclusion in its final hours rather than 4 hours in. Or, put another way, one that feels like it was worked out as a season-spanning storyline from the off.
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Jack's evil brother was a vicious little SCUMBAG, but he was somebody that you truly despised enough that you wanted to see more of him in Season 6. He was one of the most interesting villains in the show's history, and Season 6 would have been so much more interesting had he not been killed off so early that year........he sure as hell was a better villain that Jack's dad, Middle Eastern terrorists, or the evil Chinese official who kidnapped Jack for two years.......Biggest waste in the show's history!
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Season 8 has got nothing on Season 6 in terms of being awful though. I have been wishing for years that the writers would do away with the terrorists with weapons of mass destruction formula and go small-scale and more personal like Season 1 (Jack's family in danger). But then 9/11 happened and changed the show forever........so I guess we're going to get the terrorists with weapons of mass destruction formula EVERY season, unfortunately! I wonder what kind of show 24 would be if the Twin Towers were still standing!!!
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on the DVR. Damages reminded me how hot Michelle Dessler was, and how 24 is missing some of its best characters. Tony, Michelle, Curtis, the Palmers, the list goes on.(on a side note, wish Aylesworth had a meatier role than Tobin's wife; and damn, Madchen Amick is still smokin' hot)Almost didn't watch 24, just not feelin' it. But I did watch, only to be exposed to Kiefer's hammer toes. Maybe he has a thing for heels in private...S3 with Saunders was pretty damned good. Chapelle on the tracks is one of the most memorable moments in the series. Bauer using Saunder's hot daughter as bait. Jin and Sylar also took part in that season.
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Jack dies so Chloe takes another Jack from an alternate universe to replace him.
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once Starbuck takes care of her redneck ex, she pops a cap into her smarmy CTU cohort.
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... But it just needs to step up its game and just, uh, become more interesting.
I'm not feeling ANY of the new characters, which in turn makes me just not give a shit about the tense situations they are in. Any scene with Jack in danger you already know is going to end fine, 'cause they need him for another 16 hours yet.
The Renee stuff was alright, she's the only character aside from Jack and Chloe that I give two shits about.
From the looks of this trailer, looks like the 'Renee getting set-up' is this season's plot device for getting Jack to go rogue... like they always do. Ugh. -
...they have dialled it back to the slower pace of season 1. Letting it build slowly and not blowing its wad right at the start, then hitting a lull when it should be picking up later on.
we have become a 'must have everything right now' society. Why dont you all just enjoy watching the story build naturally and come together as the season unfolds? because right now none of us know where each of the story threads are taking us. -
Like I said, I'm torn (yeah, yeah, "that's what she said").
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the 2nd 12 hours is going to be intense ... but like Jinxo said: I'm finding a lot more "WTF??" plotholes a lot easier then previous seasons.
For example: okay, so I get that President Blow Dryer's brother is against "peace with the infidels" but what ... exactly ... is his purpose of having nukes? Is he going to take over his country by threatening to turn it into a ginormous sheet of glass? By the way, who would want a president with a Emo Hairstyle anyways? fail ...
Show of hands from those who did NOT see "president's daddy-girl daughter secretly bumpin' uglies with his most trusted lackey". Anyone? ... Anyone? ... Bueller?
I also agree with the cloudy "when DID Rack Bauer go undercover? It couldn't have been AFTER Season 7 because it was already revealed that she was fired for torturing Wilson ... yet, for a abuse & rape victim, she sure took a shining to Jack quickly in Season 7. meh ... not a major issue ... but an issue nonetheless and this is a TB dammit so I must do my fair share of cramming sand up ... err ... where was I?
All kidding aside, this season is missing one major factor that is glaring at this point: a reason for Jack to give a shit.The first few hours had him having multiple reasons to leave, yet he ultimately sticks around because Rubber Face goes behind his back to manipulate him after he tells her he just wants to have a normal life as a Dad and Grandpa ... whattabitch.
... but the point still remains: Renee is safe at CTU and he finally got to use that Martin Riggs' Torture Rack Legs of Doom move he's been looking for an excuse to tryout ... so why does he stick around??
There was no patriotic plea from Taylor ... no tearful "after all I've done for you" guilt trip from Rubber Face ... and, unlike MY twisted mind thought would happen during Hours 1 - 3: neither his son-in-law, daughter, nor grandaughter were murdered.
meh ... again ... not any major gripes; kinda digging (what I hope to be) a slow build to a frantic & fast-paced finish. HOWEVER, I am hoping that Freddie "My Father Had More Talent In His Toe Jam" Prinze has the same fate as every other CTU Field Operative who looked destined to be "The New Bauer" (although what they did to Schroeder was just wrong ... wrong I say!). -
but it should at least point to something interesting and coherent, which to many seems to be missing right now.Leaving aside the typical idiot side plots like the rednecks, the political soap opera with Elvis poses no threat. Nuclear fuel rods are no immediate threat. Having fissionable material is a critical first step, but far from building and detonating a bomb. A nuclear explosion has already occurred on 24 and it was just a speedbump for that season!There is no comparison to S1, where Kim is kidnapped, Teri is in danger (we'll forgive the amnesia part), Palmer is the target of an assassination and then the reveal of the Drazen revenge motive.
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Unfortunately for the series. That swerve was completely unexpected, but they've done it so many times now that viewers are looking for "The Mole" during the first hour (and there is ALWAYS a Mole isn't there)
The fact that they've systematically killed every supporting character has painted them into a corner or having to introduce replacement characters ... and, inexplicably, saddling them with the mother of all clusterfuck storylines (read: Katie Sackoff). At this point (8 seasons) we're tired of CTU employees with questionable backgrounds; employees who act like potential Moles; and all the other trite crap they use a filler.
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Just like HongKongCavalier was saying...I'm torn, ebcause I'm finding the "character driven slow burn" to be interesting on some levels, and I appreciate, at the very laest, the attempt to not destroy the whole world in the first four hours...but I also am seeing plotholes and stupidity much easier than ever before, and I'm not trying. Here is my biggest question..
Hassan's brother is buying nuclear rods to secure his place as leader of the coup, etc...fine. But why in Gods name is he doing it in America in the first place? They already stated outright the Russians had to ship the rods from overseas into the US to make the exchange.... who brings Nuclear Rods to AMERICA, the most secure and scary place in the world for terrorists/having nukes, when he's just going to have to ship them backt o his own country in order to continue his nuclear program? Why wouldn't he have just stayed behind while his brother was away signing the treaty, had the nukes brought into his own country, where he would be in control of security and stage the coup with his broher out of the country. It just doesnt make any sense why anyone would bring these things onto our soil. We take these things too seriously for it to be practical to the russians to even risk it. Hassan's bro had them brought into America from overseas, just to buy them and have to find a way to now ship them back out of America shortly after? Woulnd't it be easier to just keep the nukes on the Eastern continents, making it much easier to get them into whichever middle eastern country they are from? Does this make sense to anyone else? Isn't that just the most retarded thing you've ever heard?
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Maybe the idea was not to return the rods to "Kandilandistan" but to keep them in the US for Hassan's brother to use as leverage? Maybe the writers are functional retards? I'm going with the latter myself.
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They're hilarious and entertaining as hell. This season is a bit boring... the redneck plotline is idiotic but dammit if I don't laugh at the dumbness of it. Like last week when Redneck #2 gets on the phone at the strip club and is like, "Listen BITCH" to Sackhoff. The fact that the good ol boys are at a strip club period was enough to make me laugh. Same with their idiotic shenanigans at the evidence lockup (a fucking squirt gun!? WHAT IS THIS, LOONEY TOONS!?)
Jack's gotten a couple good kills this year, but it's definitely the second worst season. I'd say 1, 2, and 3 are the best. 4 and 7 are also good (7 had some of the best villains, 4 was like "The Threatdown" as Marwan had over 9000 terrorist plans) 5 was ok but left a bad taste in my mouth with how many people they killed off though, 8 so far is eehhhh but still not as bad as season 6 which was TERRIBLE after the first 4 episodes. -
HUMAN TARGET is the best TV action series in a good while. Nice knowin' ya, 24!
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they're just doing stuff to being doing stuff. There's no reason for it, especially the stupid girl with her criminal ex subplot. Dumbest thing eva.
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Feb 22, 2010 9:24:58 AM CST
themagicalhornofguntata: I'm the most objective guy on here
by mistergreen
I actually say I like stuff or if you was just ok.
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I watched the first 5 episodes. How
many "crisis on a (blank)" can you have? A plane, a train, a castle, a software "fortress". It's fucking reatarded. 24 has devolved into doing the same thing over and over after 8 years. Human target repeated itself 5 times in 5 episodes. Dreadful dreadful stuff -
the use of "stunt deaths" as a means to push ratings. All the central characters early in the series are killed off just for teh sake of ratings. As a result, there aren't many fully developed characters. And each season, they waste valuble time introducing viewers to new characters when they could have started the season in high gear with viewers knowing who the characters are.
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...I still can't believe that the controlling bald guy (Leonard Betts) pulling Logan's strings from the blutooth group (they were turning out to be the BIG BAD of the mythology in s5, remember!) just turned out to be Jack's brother 'Graham'. What a waste. I forgot abut the huge potential that story line had, shame it turned around and killed season 6. Ahhh when I think about the missed opportunities this show has had, escape from China anyone??
In the same breath tho, it wouldn't be half as bad if they actually acknowledge some of the shows history. i.e. "Jack I'm sure its tough for you to find people to trust these days, seeing as your own brother and father turned out to be evil masterminds in the past". "Its no problem Mrs. President, at least I got to start a relationship with my long lost son Josh after that fiasco." - But no such luck, like the producers obviously went to lengths to hire a boy who resembled Kiefer Sutherland and even the conversations between Jack and Marilyn (Josh's mother) hinted at a convoluted past, but no pay off!
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Feb 22, 2010 10:07:09 AM CST
I even made my 1st hitler parody to describe my current feelings
by stankratz
on 24. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3JO9ZtzCW0 Remove spaces.
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Personally I think they should have ended 24 with season 7. As in 24/7 perfect marketing tool right there. But whilst part of me is glad they didnt Season 8 has been bit of a let down.
It started of ok, but they needed more of an incentive to keep Jack in New York, I think it would have been more exciting if New York was attacked and traffic was gridlocked. Plus all flights grounded (included Kim's). Jack could be torn between getting to Kim and helping CTU.
Plus it would have been so much better and a bit more believable if Tony was the ex-undercover contact to the Russian mobsters.
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This season is kinda boring. The last couple of episodes were good though. Usually the show drags just past the midway point of the season. Maybe they're just getting the boring, pointless shit out of the way early this year. Although, as I remember it, Kim's entire storyline in Season 2 was boring and pointless. Seriously, you could have edited Kim's entire plotline out of Season 2 and it wouldn't have been missed.
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seeing episodes now on tv just makes me cringe, its still jack screaming at foreign people who are going to blow up to world!!!1111111...
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...will be lol'ing at your mum before this season is through. Trust me.
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24 has always included a lot of pointless shit, dumb subplots, go-nowhere story threads and constant mid-season reboots, even at its best (1 and 3 were tops for me.) but it got around those roadblocks by having a) a lot of interesting peripheral characters who were entertaining even in said go-nowhere story threads, and most importantly b) JACK BAUER DOING AWESOME SHIT MULTIPLE TIMES PER EPISODE. That's all I need to be entertained, because let's be honest 24 has been rehashing its one idea over and over for 8 years. People expecting a surprise out of 24 at this point are probably also disappointed the sun rising in the east every day. But even by my low, low standards of "a couple of good characters and Jack doing ridiculous shit", this season has been a major fucking letdown. Don't get me wrong, I am going to watch till the bitter end, and even if they end up dropping the ball harder than Season 6, I will still watch a potential Season 9. But GOOD LORD, it is not that hard to make a fucking entertaining 24 episode! The best thing this show could do right now is have CTU get nuked with all the supporting cast inside, then spend the rest of the season having Jack run around knifing people in the face. Who wouldn't watch that? I'm not asking for a miracle here. I'm not expecting The Wire when I watch 24. Just give me 2 or 3 decent characters and a bunch of violence courtesy of Jack fucking Bauer. Please. Cheers, Lopan.
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Worst character this season? It isn't the rednecks, it isn't freddie prinze 2, it isn't annoying stalker tech guy, it isn't President Boring, Arabic President Boring or the rest of his boring family. It's the fucking Chief of Staff for President Boring, whose lone character trait appears to be "I'm a fucking giant whiner with a PhD in Getting Annoyed About Everything on Planet Earth". Sweet fucking Jesus, if nothing else, can we please have this guy get shot in the face? Then, have his body fall off the roof into the spinning blades of a helicopter a la Last Boy Scout. Thanks and God bless, Lopan.
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They killed every unique character in the first 4 seasons to make the show shocking (which was awesome, 24 had huge balls when it came to offing anyone, anytime, especially compared to other shows where its impossible to kill a character) and when they got down to the bare bones, fan favorites (tony, michelle, bill, blackbauer) they used their deaths throughout seasons as major plot points, which was...okay, but now every season they have to make cheap, easy to identify character archetypes, not real characters, that fill roles just to kill them later. I agree they should start a season where at the end of the first four hours, after meeting all these new people we dont give a fuck about, they blow up all of CTU, everyone dies, and Jack feels its his duty to find out why they are all dead...maybe alone, maybe just with Renee. I always stand by the fact that with all the characters that come and go in 24, its fucking impressive that Rack Bauer was so universally accepted and loved by fans everywhere. She fit into the show. She's a unique 24 character and it works so well.
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...Who wants to be a Millionaire!Every time the foreign president is on it takes me back to Slumdog Millionaire, which was so much better.This series has all of the bad points of previous series, without any of the good points. We are what, 8 episodes down, and there is not even a hint of a major threat yet.And notice how tired they all are when it comes to negotiating? The tough "no negotiations" stance is long gone. Within the space of one telephone call the Russian arms dealer gets to speak to teh President who assures him he'll get a pardon fast tracked. Next series Jack will have a load of presigned waivers that he can dish out, save the cost of a phone call.
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I believe it can now join the annals of expressions driven into the ground by overuse such as "Don't go there", "Bling Bling", and "Yeah baby" in an Austin Powers accent.
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This season is entertaining, I'm still coming back for more. If I wasn't interested, I would quit watching. Don't have time for much TV anyway, much less crap TV.
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Turns out the grumblepuff CTU:NY Director is really LUKE CAGE, MOTHERFUCKER! For real though, why the hell would you have Milo, kill Milo, then hire a guy that looks like Milo and give him Milo's job and snarky tech guy schtick and call him Arlo? Are they brothers? Where's Phylo? Probably out shopping at Bi-Lo
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He is going to factor into this show big time in the second half of the season.
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Technically they don't negotiate with terrorists and this guy was an arms dealer.
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in last week's episode. Now THAT is an entertaining go-nowhere subplot.
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Quite surprised that none of this was mentioned yet. I live in Ireland and we get this English 'lads mag' here called Nuts. About a month ago they did a special on the new season of 24, as they do every year, and they had the following listed.......BEWARE SPOILERS.....Yes Logan will be back in the 2nd half to try to blackmail his way back into the Whitehouse (in what capacity I don't know). Also, a major character will be killed off, I won't say the name but what other major characters are left apart from Jack? By the way it's not Kim. And the final spoiler I read was that Mandy is coming back in the 2nd half. no bullshit. I was thinking when I read the magazine article "how the fuck would these idiots know? Sure those episodes aren't even written yet." But the magazine was correct in previous seasons, they spoiled the 'Jack gets kidnapped at the end of s5' plot on me. Anyway, if it is true about Logan and Mandy, s8 might pick up a bit. Either way, 24 on it's worst day is better than most other shows on their best and I will watch it for as lng as Jack Bauer is in it.
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I wasn't singling anyone out. My point is that Kiefer and the 24 team could come up with the most explosively entertaining season yet and the nimrods on here would find something to moan about. I suppose for them it's a vocation.
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I've been dying for a season where it turns out she stopped working freelance and is a baddie on her own right. She was awesome. Who knows, maybe making her more of a character will be a mistake because mystery is always more fun...but more Mandy sounds good to me.
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I never thought a Pawn shop could be more entertaining than a season of 24 but its not even close.
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shoulda been the last season. they should have kept tony, michelle, david palmer and bill til the last season. killing most of them off in the last season with a plot to blame jack woulda been great ending, but change the ending of 5 to the ending of 4 and setup for movie franchise. their gonna make a movie so hopefully with a movie budget and only two hours to tell a story it can be trimmed down to just the main storyline without all the side bullshit that gets in the way.
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That would redeem the season my friends!
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Why is it they will make nationalities like Russians and Chinese as bad guys but when it comes from the Middle East, they have to make up a fake country where they come from. Are those right-wing 24 producers more scared of getting attacked by terrorists?
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Seems like the inter-CTU infighting is going to turn 24 into a daytime soap--or maybe a crossover episode with "The Office" is coming. This is turning into pure shite, I am pained to say.
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And that's not saying much. Loved Katie Sackhoff in BSG, but her side plot is the worst since Kim vs. the Cougar waaaay back when. She deserves better.
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...this year. I give up on it.
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no way, dude.
this season certainly has its flaws (esp Starbuck's white trash ex-boyfriend and the rest of the CTU staff), but i think crazy Renee Walker, Duke Leto, Leoben getting stabbed in the face, India's answer to Regis Philbin, his daughter and Jack pulling a knife from his stomach and killing someone with it definitely lift the season from the rote.
The whole assassination plot worked well enough, and i care about the nuclear rods as much as i did any CTU macguffin.
I still think David Fury has to lift his game but i don't think its yet come close to sucking the way that season 6 did.
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Dude showed last night he can teach Jack how to survive being burned alive through wits and innate badassery.
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Sooner or later it's gonna fall apart cause his fans can't relate to his new art
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has actually grew on me over the past few weeks.At first, I was like a lot of fans - just bored by it all. But then I started to dig the slow burn. There's been some quality moments over the past couple of episodes and the stupid red-neck storyline at least looks like its coming to a head.24 is still great TV.Can you imagine how shit next year is going to be? No 24 and no LOST?
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Maybe then we will start to believe that these characters are in New York City!
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For me, 24 went down hill after Season 2. Ever since it's been dull, predictable, and worst of all repetitive. There were good segments through the past few seasons but overall they all stunk.
This season has some good scenes but the overall experience is just lacking. I think it's because it's simply too predictable. When you know Jack Bauer is going to win the day it gets a little dull year after year. James Bond always wins but we only see him every few years. Bauer needs to take a backseat for a while. -
The first trilogy wraps up rather nicely if you watch 1-3 in a row. Jack and Kim still have a relationship. She's most likely to go off with surgically repaired Chase (a sadly underdeveloped character) Tony and Michelle have a heartfelt goodbye (and even without seeing season 4 we all had the feeling Palmer would pardon him) And Jack breaking down in tears after a day in which he killed Chapelle pulled the trigger on Chase (the gun was unloaded) and overcame his heroin addiction. They were never going to top that. the ludicrous Marwan plot of season 4, Jack sold out to the Chinese, fake death, Palmer's POORLY handled assassination. I mean it's been downhill since 2004 BIG TIME! I'm waiting for Days 1-3 on B;u-ray so i can enjoy that excellent story arc for years to come. Post season 3 24 is dead to me.
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Even so, don't you think they cut to the chase pretty damn quick, especially as there is no major threat yet? Its just like they skipped a whole load of standard 24 scenes (Torture, won't submit, negotiate, won't negotiate, ring up the Prez, Prez ums and ahs, then gives in) and just gave him his freedom within about 10 seconds of him asking.There have been so many dumb moments this season.Case in point, you are a trained CTU agent, so highly skilled that you can pull a knife out of your own stomach and accurate throw it into the larynx of a gun toting baddie that storms in the door, whilst falling to the floor, yet you don't know that if someone is going nutso murdering someone in teh face with a huge knife, that you don't sneak up behind them and tap them on the shoulder?!!
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As long as there is Chuck, I won't mind :DLost is driving me mad. Each episode will consist of someone telling us they know all the answers, but I bet they never bloody tell us :D
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1. No urgency. 24 has always been about the ticking clock, and people dying if Jack doesn't come up with a miracle by the end of the hour. I haven't felt any of that this season, and I feel absolutely no sense of urgency even with nukes loose in the city. 2. Rehashed plot devices. Girl forced to submit to sex to maintain situation? Yep. Muslims with nukes in an even-numbered year? Yep. I never thought I'd see another Russian guy get dismembered to defeat his electronic tracker, but they did it. The only chestnuts left out are a fatality and a mole inside CTU, but I'm sure we'll see those soon enough. Basically, the writing sucks. I blame Braga!
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What if the Bauerverse is the Fringe alternaverse that Peter was taken from.
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There are control rods, apparently jacked up in the back of Kenzo's truck. Somehow this will probably end up being a major threat to the US because they have said "weapons grade U235" a lot, but they can't weaponize that unless they put it in some uber instant weaponizing machine like in GI Joe (Which was better than this)
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where Jack gets a call and meets his friend in that empty building, and friend gets shot? It felt like Bauer was going into the unknown, and it was riveting. Letting off nukes all the time was the mistake. There is no coming back from that.
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last year they gave us back a beloved character and we all fell into a feeling of nostalgia, but when the day was over, we realized the season went nowhere and kinda sucked, plus they killed off Bill Buchanon which was a terrible idea.this season does seem slow paced, but it's esentially still the beggining and i get the feeling we are going somewhere special.I may be biased as i worked on season 2, but i still love this show, if i had to rank the years it would go 1, 5, 4, 3, 2,7, 6...right now season 8 would sit slightly above 7 but it's still to early to make my annual list of 24 ranksing
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and then kill off Rack, I'm going to be highly pissed. Highly. I would honestly like to see them get a happy ending after all they've been through.
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Yeah, it wouldn't be "24" hours, but neither was the two hour tv movie redemption and it was pretty good.
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Feb 22, 2010 8:30:03 PM CST
She should just kill this Justice chick
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
Aint no way that chick coulda put together this much info on chesty so quickly either.
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in 24 history. That's saying a lot.
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Feb 22, 2010 8:32:22 PM CST
Now that was just plain restupidiculous
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
What the fuck did he think he was gonna accomplish? Jett musta wrote that scene
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The whole chain of events regarding these rods has maden no fucking sense whatsoever. And now Jack just magically figures out that they're blaming Rene for EVERYthing?!?!?! I'm this close to tuning out for the season. This has gone off the rails.
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has never been done before... oh wait.
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Feb 22, 2010 8:34:50 PM CST
Off the rails and straight into a ditch
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
I think Keifer took elective surgery to give the writers a chance to re-think before the shoot any more of this clusterfuck
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Has there EVER been a subplot sustained this long involving characters that a) Jack doesn't even know except in passing and b) have FUCKALL to do with the A-story?
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We hardly knew ye. Don't forget to put on your red shirt before you head out.
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"And my salary is..!??!?" DOES NOBODY WORRY ABOUT GETTING PAID ON THIS FUCKING SHOW?!?!?
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END THIS FUCKING SUBPLOT NOW.
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Seriously.
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Is a dead hillbilly
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Pretty much the only way at this point.
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by the side of the river
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Freddie Prinze Jr is intimidating deserves an Emmy nomination...
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They're still arguing in the damned previews. IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER.
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and five minutes later he's heading a rescue mission?
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If he's called in to clean up the hillbillies, it's game on again.
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I've been saying it all year and every week people keep bitching about the hick storyline. It will look ingenious when it is all said and done. Episode 1, the drones were delayed (dana was working on them) and they couldn't scout the missle launcher. We have this Jenny person somehow working at CTU when she was an accessory to murder. She obviously killed someone and stole the person's identity. My guess is that when she was in prison, she fell in love with a terrorist and has been planning this for years. Just like she fell in love with the hick, she loves men who cause mayhem. The fact that she was wililng to kill the two hicks only proves it. She's not freaking out because Cole might find out...she's freaking out because her plan might fail. She's been the mole all season and she needed to take care of the hicks so she can continue to sabotage the operation.
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Is it just me or are they giving like really weird accents? Starbuck sounds like she's breaking into a southern accent and Freddie Prinze has this wanna-be New Yorker thing going on. Or maybe I'm just hearing things.
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Doesn't mean she is the Mole...
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So she's most likely NOT coming back to 24 next year.
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if Prinze is the Mole.
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Who was in the van by the side of the river? Think I'm hallucinating something good here . . .
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Calling this stupid is an insult to stupid. Muslim terrorists with nukyoolar material? check. Dumb as a fuck subplots that are worse filler than the worm dick and slug lips they use in McDonald's burgers? check.Jack's in, he's out, he's in...ahhh, what the fuck, who cares anymore. This is not just stupid and requiring major suspension of disbelief, it's broing and fucking insulting to the people who have been fans since day one. PUT THIS PUPPY DOWN !!!
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I loves me a Big Mac from time to time.
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So, now Freckles is going to be on the sidelines instead of killing bad guys? What a waste this season has been. These writers suck.This should be the last season. Make the movie and let Jack,Freckles, and Chloe ride off into the sunset. NONE OF THESE THREE BETTER NOT BE KILLED OFF!
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...this show has become a farce. I mean, there is literally NO POINT to this season whatsoever. It's bloody ridiculous.
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only hope for saving this season is a major attack on a NY landmark...any gueses as to which?...Empire State Building?...Statue of Liberty?...United Nations?...Brooklyn Bridge?
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Cut the shit out about someone replacing Keifer. And yes, this season so far has been a drag with the Dana Walsh subplot having to be the lamest since Frodo's pal's drug addict sister. At least they killed her and her miserable BF off early on! But Keifer's unexpected surgery may be the reason we're getting more Dana than desired. And more nukes on American soil?? That story well is dry as dust. How many seasons have they built around it??
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And I'm a white male, by the way. Look back on the show - virtually every black woman from Cherie Palmer to Wayne Palmer's sister (and by extension of that Cherie's sister-in-law) to the woman from Justice tonight, have always been portayed in the most unsympathetic way possible.
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Actually require you to be there to film it. It will therefore likely be an interior location which can be easily mimiced.
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And Printz Jnr sounded like he walked off the set of "Jersey Shore".
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Towards the beginning. The fact that it was retarded for them to bring the nukes here, and we would inevitably get an episode or two of some new terrorists "weaponizing" the rods, etc blah blah. I didn't expect to be as completely dead on as I was. This is getting harder for me to pay attention to honestly. Its so predictable.
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Dont have FX and still waiting to find a place to watch it online. But S3 is rocking this year, best show on besides LOST.
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Good thing the brother had a change of heart and called them, because by my count, not a single one of them was looking for or even really concerned about the missing rods when he called.
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The usual suspects. Naked Mandy. Marie Warner. Behrooz. Mike Novick. Tony. Chase. Audrey or Sen Heller. Prez Logan. Wayne Palmer. Karen Hayes. Henry Taylor. Janis. Who hates Jack or the US the most?
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Remember the Corey Haim/Alan Thicke movie from the 90s called Demolition High? With the terrorists in the high school?
That's exactly what I think of every episode for the last few seasons. but Corey Haim has been replaced with Jack Bauer.
Can't believe this is a computer show for me: In other words, I surf the net and keep it on in the background just to get through it. -
These scripts reminds of me when Kevin Smith recounts his Superman story. The script he's supposed to re-write it so bad, he wonders how it was even greenlit. "Did somebody's f'n cousin write this? Can you get your money back?"
If we're being honest, the show died when they cleaned house in Season 4 and put it on in January. Ever since then, it's just been eerily bad.
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...will be when they bring Charles Logan back into the plot for a few episodes. That's why I'm still watching, despite the current plotlines that just keep dragging with dullness.
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The 24/Scooby Doo crossover is great. With the 2 rednecks banging some strippers in the Mystery Machine.
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Renee: When you say that I "have" you ...
Jack: I meant it like it sounded
There you have it folks: the seed to bring back Juggernaut Jack has been planted (i.e., Renee should start getting her affairsin order; including picking out a nice spot under a tree for her grave) -
Awww yea son. Here we go FINALLY. Been waiting all week for this shit. BAUER GIVE ME STRENGTH IN THIS NEXT HOUR TO KEEP ME GOING FOR ANOTHER WEEK! Times is hard but you always come thru.
Lets GET IT! Beep…beep BEEEEPP
LOL generic ass NY. This shit looks like it was filmed on the Sony backlot in Santa Monica.
Chloe still on jacks old ass grampa nuts after all these years.
Ahahah the president’s wing man is being the typical snooty rich white corporate douchebag, covering his ass. This shit is less than 2 hours old and he wanna already set up someone to take the fall. Hahaha this dude is giving Gump shit. Move out the WAY BOY, I GOT THIS. At least it seems like Gump got a conscious, even tho his back bone weak as hell.
HAHA now another white dude ordering a brotha around. “Im stealing your truck nigger, take your ass back to base” “whatever you say boss!”
FINALLY the Duke Boys. Perfect slimy weak rock music blaring out of them shitty ass speakers. HAHA they got all that money, why the fuck are they laid back in that shitty ass van in the middle of the woods? At least get a motel 6, got damn. Cant take the PYT out of a motherfucka.
HAHAH LOOK@ HOW GUMP SIZING UP THIS NEW BITCH! “Did Rob Weiss brief you” this nigga said that shit like he repeated it in his head about 200 times in his best white voice.
Awww shit. She got one of those faces that look good far away but close up u start looking the other way while she smiling at you and shit. One of those fake pretty bitches. They dress nice got nice hair but the grill is just all shot. Bitch probably look like her daddy. She look like a black Jaws from Moonracker. Just munching people bones as a snack and shit. Female fred head hermania munster aka shazams wife saw right thru gump’s white voice and fake sexy come on.
HAHA this she-beast cuts off Gump treating him like a child. “can u at least provide that, little man?” Its like they must have had history. Dude is probably a minute man in the sack and she clownin cuz she is downright disgusted. DENIED, nigga!
LOL@ chloe’s sarcastic ass “yes SIR”
Ahahah EPIC ASS MUSIC during this paki Schwartzman and paki zombie Curtis moment. I feel like Im about to see Lebron rapping Eminem lyrics before scoring 50 points on the knicks.
Aw this bitch trying the ole “you know u done fucked up right?” speech. Damn, another fucked up devious black woman on this show. I mean, technically she is actually on point, Freckles blacked out and DECIMATED that ruskie like the crazy bitch she is, but still, I don’t like her uppity tone.
LOL@ jack always knowing whats going on just instantly. HAHAH @ OH SHIT DONKEY PUNCH to the throat!! Another black guy sonned by a cracka. But its jack fuckin bauer….ahhh. dude is HELLA overreacting hahaha. OH SHIT hands on a black woman? Okay this bauer done lost his fucking mind. I been giving him a black pass for a minute now but CMON NAH HOW MUCH DISSING OF BLACK FOLK WE GONNA DO IN ONE EPISODE? Its black history month for fucks sake! Aw shit now he just called the black dude “son”
HAHAH the black guy outsmarted jack tho!! Used his whiteness against him hahaha. That good ole taser, jacks one nemesis for damn near a decade. I love this shit. They don’t fool me tho, I see it was a cracka that tased him and not a minority, they trying not to give us that win, but fuck it, PURE WIN.
Oh shit paki sschwartzman using the sands of time. This dude whining his bitch ass off tho. U just got hit in the leg nigga get the fuck up .
Ahahah Jack finna try and tattle on Gump once again. HAHA@ gump getting Jack to sit down. At least SOMEONE finallyremembers its black history month.
Maaaan Gump has done that “forehead/hair HUH??” look at LEAST 4 times this episode alone.
HAHA he sat jack down just to tell him to leave. Touché gump, touché.
FINALLY BACK TO THEM DUKE BOYS!!!
These dudes are definitely into some freaky ass shit, so bad that a couple of nasty ass strippers will WALK home.holy fucking shit.
Freddie prinze jr is the worst actor of all time. Just had to say that.
Hahaha Gump just made a mouseketeer head of field ops. Fuckin brilliant. Timberlake bout to sing some agents to their DEATH.
Jack’s arrogant smirk and total lack of respect for Gump is killing me. These two are fucking going AT IT this episode.
I want you INNNNNNNNNN. Deal….DEAL! Hahahahahah. Shoulda gave him the terrorist fist jab while he at it.
Starbuck is a doofus ass bitch. How u gonna scold Freddy for your fuck ups?
HAHAH he asked her if she was out of her mind and all the bitch did was LOOK AT HIM ….then say “I love you cole”. Cole, that is ONE CRAZY BITCH! What a got damn sucker tho. Such typical poor white trash behavior going on here. Looney tune bitch gets wrapped up by her dirty ass ex boyfriend and in comes the new guy thinking he gonna correct shit. I hope beavis and butthead shoot this fool with a sling shot and giggle.
Haha the Duke boys trying to keep their cool. Prinze doing his best tough guy talk but I don’t buy this shit. HAHA@ the xmas lights in the van. Which one of those tards put those up? HAHA OH SHIT FOR REAL DUKE ON DUKE CRIME THIS TIME! Hahahahaha WTFFFFFFFFf that shit was fucccked up. NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! NO NO NO THIS CANT BE HAPPENING!!!! How are they gonna kill off the best comic relief this show has ever had? Daaamn what a downer ending.
So here we are, the last episode in black history month and we get ALL these problems for the black characters. get their trucks stolen, choked out by crackas,called son and scoffed at like “nigga I aint sittin down for SHIT”. But on the other hand we got redneck crackas doing pretty fuckin bad too and some sneaky white house turn coat fucker watching his own ass. So I guess it kinda evens out.
MLK would be SO PISSED YET AMAZED@ WHAT WE HAVE BECOME -
where the CYA and backstabbing between the minor characters (typically CTU) has begun. "It's gonna be YOUR fault if..." and then they had to get rid of Sark, who was one of the better things so far.I saved most of my limited attention span for the 10 o'clock hour on FX. Uncle Pete!? A big horse!?
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but I'm actually diggin Freddy Prinz Jr in this so far (I'm a little behind - he's not dead yet is he?) - actually for the first time EVER!
much more than Ricky Schroeder, who was just all kinds of wrong
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According to episode 4, today is the first time Jack has seen her since Day 7......two years prior. It's not like they have had time to establish chemistry with one another........unless they were both attracted to each other since Day 7. And I'm not sure I'd tell Renee I was attracted to her given her current mental state!
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Best thing of the season. It was gripping and filled with tension. Oh, I'm so worried about Cole and her: will they still get hitched? Think of the China pattern you still have to pick out people!!!
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Daft!
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All good things come to an end. It's time for 24 to wrap up as a tv series. I think they need to go out with a bang this year and then start on the 24 movie.
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Did you all catch where Hastings tells him he want's jack in, and when Jack says "deal" he switches the Jack Sack from one shoulder to the other? FUCKING GREAT. Retarded episode though, love BJB's recap as always.
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Justice Department Lawyer - "You stabbed him 15 times. One would have been enough to incapacitate him." Rene - "Not true, I stabbed Jack once and it barely phased him."
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I love how right now she's at her wits end. I predict her doing something crazy and it costing her life.
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That's not saying much though. That whole Agent Ortiz, Dana, Starbuck storyline is the worst storyline in show history. And Freddie Prinze has the range of a dead moth. He's SO bad. Overall, a the best episode this season though.
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Was it always there? I only noticed it for the first time this episode, and then couldn't see anything else. Perhaps Tony is buried under a latex mask there, ready to unveil himself next episode.
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Yeah seriously, what kind of freaky shit did the Duke boys want them to get down with? The Rape Van Express reminds me of the van that the two guys from season 1 used to abduct Jack's daughter and her friend.
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I actually thought that last night was a return to form of sorts. We had several switches occur and plenty of action and intensity. It's the first ep I have enjoyed this season and felt like I was watching 24 again.
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Okay, so on 24, you have on of Germany's most famous actors, Jurgen Prochnow, playing a Ukranian. His son is the white Takezo Kensei dude from Heroes with an American accent. The Indian Regis Philbin dude from Slumdog Millionaire is the head of a generic angry muslim country. The guy playing his brother is also Indian, but all of the hench...men from their country sound generically Middle Eastern.Freddie Prinze Jr. has a tough guy Jersey Shore accent that comes and goes. And Jack "head vampire from the Lost Boys" Bower posed as a German arms dealer whose American accent was dismissed because he had been "travelling".
In all of it's seasons, no one on this show ever sleeps, eats, or goes to the bathroom. I think they get cranky because they are tired, hungry, and constipated. It makes Jack all "killy".
Also, can anyone figure out how old Jack is at this point? We are on like our billionth President on this show, and even though their terms keep getting cut short by premature death, looking at the timeline by all rights I think Jack should be pushing 70 by now. -
It was always cracking me up that whenever the President had a visit to LA there would turn out to be a terrorist crisis. If I were living in the area, every time the Pres announced he/she wanted to visit Disneyland, I'd pack my bags and go to Hawaii.
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It's called suspension of disbelief. It's not a documentary. Though I admit, I laughed really hard reading your post.
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Thanks. I realize it's a show, and I love it as much as everybody. In fact, these over the top John Woo touches sometimes make it even more fun!
Seeing your recent posts concerning Starbuck, her boyfriend Freddie, and her thug ex reminds me that that storyline is proving another truism of 24. No matter what city they base it in, CTU is the most centrally located building in that town because it is 10 minutes away from everything (and there's no traffic in New York or LA). Starbuck's ex took less than half an hour to get from her apartment to the place they did the robbery. Then about 20 minutes after the robbery they were in a strip club on their third drink. Starbuck is able to show up at that club to stalk them about 10 minutes later. It's good you don't have to drive too far for strippers and warehouse robberies. -
Am I the only one who thinks he looks like an Arabian Jason Schwartzman?
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Yeah, I LOVE how the most notoriously traffic heavy cites have no traffic to speak of in the 24 World.
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No, I totally agree with that. I think someone else pointed it out in a prior talkback too.
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Both have the same awesome hairstyle.
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The guide to the first season stated he was 36 then. I don't know how many years have passed in the "24" universe since then. But with the three- and four-year gaps between some seasons, Jack might be about 50.
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Nobody else said it
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been callin him that for weeks GET ON THE MOTHERFUCKIN TRAIN!
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I stabbed Jack once and he wasn't incapacitated. Funny as hell. BlackJack funny as always. I agree with a lot TBers here that this should be their last season. where else can they go?
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Feb 23, 2010 3:06:47 PM CST
Renee's gonna die, Chloe's going to be ruined by the season's en
by moviemaniac-7
Hopefully it will kick some ass in the latter part of the season, not unlike season 3. Still having hope for this one, then get the fucking movie and be over with it. Can't hear about some more nukes on US soil... They should overhaul the entire show every season to keep it interesting. It's been a re-run ever since season 4, with some nice touches to spice up every season, but it only lasted for a few eps. Season 5 is a stand out so far in the post-first-trilogy-seasons.
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it's true
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Laughed my fucking ass off at that.
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anyone?
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.. through the season and fuck all much has been happening.I'm still digging it, but something BIG needs to happen.Does anyone know if there is a double ep coming up? There's usually one around mid-season.And when does Charles Logan come back?And will he be moar BUTCH than season 6 this time?
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MrBlackJackBauer is the best thing about the 24 talkbacks. That is all.
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of the Us was according to sky news's Kay Burley destroyed by terrorists on 9/11.
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....Listening to the Rene (a few episodes back). Who thought that was a good idea?Then he gets stabbed in the gut, bleeds heavily for an episode, but now seems to have forgotten about it....The writer's are seriously lacking this time round.
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The writers just shat the bed. They have absolutely NO CLUE what they are doing. Any retard on this thread could do an infinitely better job. Fuck this season.
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I mean, not a single episode, ever. What´s so cool about it? should I give season I a try? I love The Sopranos, Breaking Bad and I have a love/hate relationship with Lost. Is my background OK?
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however this is the new weakest season, and "Hillbilly" is definitely the new "cougar". It also seems as if Fox had a contest for college film makers, the winners get to make a season of 24.
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I actually like that idea. Imagine Project Greenlight except you let the winner take the helm of 24 for a season.
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that ran Star Trek into the ground working on 24. When I saw Braga listed in the credits last season I had little hope for the show, but he didn't truly put his shit stamp on it until this season. Maybe it'll get better, but chances are it's going to be all downhill. I really wouldn't be surprised if this is the last season.
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Reason enough to lurch through these talkbacks. I especially liked the MLK close. Very strong.
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Game recognize game. You win, bro.
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I have been a fan of 24 since the premier episode. Typically I end up liking if not loving every season (nothing beats season one, just head back and watch it, and it is still amazing).
This season, though? Wow. I did LOVE the premier. Loved it. Axe to the chest, everything. Good 24 stuff. After that, it has gone downhill. Seems everything I am thinking has already been said. If there is another season, I truly hope they go back to something at least somewhat more believable, something smaller.
Sadly, and this has been growing but is now blatant, they have completely abandoned any sense at all of "events occur in real time." I WANT them to go back to actual "real time" like the first few seasons, and I want a lot more double, tripple, even quad screens of things happening at once.
I just now got around to this episode, and that, for me, has never happened in the entire history of the show. If I am not home when it airs, I watch it immediately upon returning. I have just stopped caring, at least for this season.
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I member he got blowed up pretty good, but wasn't he still fightin the good fight? Let's get his ass back in this game; he's the only heir to Jack's throne i'd consider, despite his major pussification from a few seasons ago, which he seemed to have recovered from...??
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What a damn shame they let Braga get involved more, apparently, instead of limiting him to latte-deliveries.So many cliche's, so little time:Starbuck has the requisite "personal drama that distracts her and has her sneaking down the hall making cell phone calls" etc etc. Total waste of time.Bad guys ask for and receive Immunity directly from the PresidentFamily members betray family members.Jack is on the case, off the case, on the case, off the case.Stupid and/or irritating boss of CTU, paying more attention to politics than the mission.All of these things could apply to almost every season of 24. The tension is gone, the energy is slower and lower. Instead of being appalled at a character letting personal issues sidetrack them, we now just go "oh, there is the cardboard cut-out time-killer-filler, right on schedule"As mentioned above, this season started out with promise (the axe, etc) in the first episodes, and quickly devolved into the tired-ass stuff they have been shoveling at us for far too long.The only positive this season is for the actress playing Rack Bauer: she got a bit of juicy role to play.The only Truly New And Different Thing this season is the Leather Jack Sack. Seriously--that is the only new element in the whole damn show.... Think about it. sad....
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It's official -- Fox has passed on picking up the series for season 9. You heard it here first!
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I believe you have delivered the definitive statemtn on this season--we're over a third of the way through, it's beyond salvage--sort of like watching Ali try to fight at the very end of his career. Sad, just sad is right.
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...why is it that in season 2 Jack would say "new-clear" bomb but in every instance since then he's said "newk-you-ler". I can't get any rest until I have a satisfactory answer.
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Like the whole hour because Jack's a stud, or a short 3minutes because well, let's face it, terrorists have nuclear materials.
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