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I really want to see WAKING SLEEPING BEAUTY after watching the trailer!
Hey folks, Harry here with the latest documentary about the Disney legacy - this time concerning the revolution the relaunched the Disney brand to new heights of success. That's a fascinating story. And I hope it is something we can see again. Disney's 2D animation is waiting still. The key isn't just another Princess flick... it's time for Animation to evolve at Disney. Stylistically, dramatically and to appeal to different audiences. I really want something that doesn't scream 1990's Disney. Which was what THE PRINCESS AND THE FROG looked like. Instead, throw out all the character designs with BIG EYES. Establish a new stylistic look for a new age of Disney animation. At least that's how I feel. But watch This Trailer and don't you want to feel that way again. I do. I want to see Disney Animation continue to evolve and change. I feel that would be to target a different style of fairy tale. One that is aimed at adults primarily, but is accessible, yet not a slave to a child's attention span. What would you like to see Disney Animation tackle next?
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I'm pretty sure that's what they were doing with Hercules and Home on the Range. Those did not look like your typical 90s Disney films. MUCH more stylized.
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Seriously. How weird would that be/how much would they change.
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I definitely want to see this
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...Make a princess movie... but the princess is a tranney, you laugh now, but in maybe twelve years, it will be made... tranneys, fuckin abominations (unless they ADMIT they are not what they appear to be, then theyre cool)
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That's a different style of fairy tale....
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Disney should start makin porn, seein as how many of its stars end up bein naked on the net...
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would go down well (so to speak) - Belle and Jane from Tarzan would be my personal choice !!
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Since he evidently decided while writing this post that Disnesy should abandon a character design style that dates back to Walt himself. What Disney needs to do: Less like Aladdin (celeb voices and pop culture references), more like Beauty and the Beast(classic story well told).
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well it's obvious the baton has been passed to pixar, but John's not about to let the 2d animation go down the well either. It's just that his focus continues to be with the company he built from the ground up--as it should be. Disney Animation needs their own hero to champion it and take it to new places. All this being said, the trailer looks amazing! Thanks for the heads up Harry!
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Harry, is it possible that you wrote this article in your sleep? It is astounding that so many grammatical errors appear in a paragraph that consists of approximately 10 (fragmented) sentences.
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He looked like a stoned 5 year old.
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I saw this at the Toronto Film Festival last Sept and it was indeed awesome. It was in my top 5 movies I saw at the fest!
The directors were there for a Q&A afterwards which was cool and we even asked them about the Emperor's New Groove doc called the Sweat Box as it was never released. They said that it will never be released - that Disney didn't like the light it was shining on them.
Fortunately for me I even got to see that one at the Toronto Fest as that is the only (or one of a few) place it's ever been shown. It was also great!
Definitely check this one out as it really takes you through the magic time when Disney was on top of the world. Personally I think a lot of the credit has to go to Ashman and Menken as the songs from three of those movies are amazing. -
Disney needs to make a fat princess movie... ya know, bout self esteem, fittin in, bein yourself, whorin yourself to a group of guys, eventually gettin lipo and die when the surgeon left his watch inside her... a movie for the entire family
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not everyone has a screen big enough for 720p quicktime videos you fucking asshole. couldn't find another size within 30 seconds and gave up. fuck it.
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They essentially taught Disney how to make the modern musical, as all of their major hits follow the structure they established with "Little Shop of Horrors". Of course, Disney beat that formula into the ground after Ashman died, but still...
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I really dug Lilo & Stitch, and Mulan. Both of which didn't involve Princesses. There are a ton of great stories out there that would be awesome animated in even the classic Disney style, they just aren't the ones Disney knows. They need to get some of the South American legends, Asian stories, and even some of the lesser known European fables.
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Hit ctrl minus (PC) or command minus (Mac) and the video will be shrunken down to fit your screen. Hit ctrl/command plus and it will zoom back in. Works for all text/graphics/videos/etc on every web page.
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disney and cartoon saloon should in roy disney's memory do some irish myths in animarion. it would ne very hard to pull off cause it would just be another case of oirish blarney. see leap year. or dont actually.
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...then where's your review of Princess and the Frog??
One of the most important films of 2009, the Mouse House's return to the hand-drawn feature table.
As a huge animation nerd myself I, and many other Disney fans, thought it was arguably the best animated film they'd made in nearly twenty years. An absolutely fantastic effort that was perhaps even more incredible to behold visually than Avatar.
Animation wise it is EASILY one of the best productions they've put together since the gold standard that was, ironically, Sleeping Beauty.
It also contained several sequences of outrageous different animation styles to the majority of the feature that took me by surprise -a total revelation.
Instead of branding it the same as their classic 90's output how about you actually review the movie and tell us what you thought.
In my opinion as a piece of storytelling and an exercise in real top quality hand drawn animation I think the least it deserves is a proper review - which you seem to be happy to the likes of mediocrities like Book of Eli and Wolf Man, but not the best film Disney have made in years.
Opinions please headgeek!!!!
Also, saying that they have stuck to their same animated look since the 90's is simply not true. You telling me Atlantis and the Emperor's New Groove look even vaguely similar? Lilo and Stitch to Beauty and the Beast??? Come on, you can do better than that.
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...in order to appeal to the male audience...Thanks Larry for this post, you answered to my question and now I know you may stand for the title to be changed...sigh...
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Too much monopolizing by The Mouse. Genndy at Orphanage Animation needs our support, to get rolling those features that he showed the concept art of on the Samurai Jack season 4 dvd extras. One was a Viking-themed story.
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Told you guys he is workin on the "Vampire Princess" movie for Disney...
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The "big eyes" comment has me thinking back to my raving insanity at the Star Wars prequels and the stupid idiotic design team which designed everything with cartoony, child-like "Big Eyes."Gosh, that design team was truly horrid and out of touch with the SW universe!
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You know, the kind who are prepared to spend an hour or more doing eye-makeup? Big eyes are crucial to visual communication; because 2d can't really copy all the finess of facial muscles, animators are forced to create big eyes to communication emotion.
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Those rumours were false, Stepdaddy. Jett has teamed up with Don Bluth to produce the new Fievel reboot.
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except this is not an intentional parody
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Feb 21, 2010 1:55:40 PM CST
I clicked on this hoping it was the next Anne Rice movie.
by royston lodge
When I saw the headline for this post, I said to myself, "self, surely they aren't making a movie based on The Taking of Sleeping Beauty!"
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Which means you end up offending everyone. Its the only disney film I fell asleep in. It seemed to go on forever..the songs were terrible, and the biggest crime ..a lame villain and really nothing to bring in little boys...teenagers and grown men. Disney made a killing with Alladin cuz it appealed to entire families and the money making demographic of young boys..so did beauty and the beast and Lion King...then they went downhill with pocahontas...mulan etc..all those chickcentric ones.
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Errr... Beauty and the Beast appealed to young boys? Johnny Weir, maybe.
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Even with smart people I respect a lot controlling Disney's tiller, I really cannot see a Disneyfied Frankenstein working. Methinks it would turn out like Disney's version of The Hunchback of Notre Dame.
But I like where your train of thought is headed. Surely there are other counter-intuitive literary classics that would be a good fit for the Disney treatment.
I'm thinking that some of Dickens' lesser-known stuff could work. Or maybe L.Frank Baum's non-Oz stories. What about Thornton Burgess' "Green Forest" stories. I loved the Japanese cartoons when I was a kid. http://tinyurl.com/yfdfztq
I could see H.G. Wells' "The Wheels of Chance" given the Disney treatment.
Jules Verne's lesser-known works would also be good.
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Feb 21, 2010 2:21:57 PM CST
Interesting film, but ultimately a failure; See "Sweatbox" inst
by undead03
You see, the guys who made this film are also responsible for the ultimate DEMISE of the studio, through mis-managment, dictatorial control, and bad taste. The film they've made, of course, stops just before this colossal betrayal of the studio takes place. They carefully tip-toe around controversial land mines they were intimately involved in, but to their credit also never blame others for their abject failures.
The Trudy Styler documentary "The Sweat Box" tells the REAL truth, and it ain't pretty. Too bad Disney won't release that film. It's warts and all, and man, are there a LOT of warts. -
...is to see those early '90s Disney Classics on Blu-ray already.
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I'm pretty sure I just read you make a comment on TPATF without seeing, what with you commenting on what it looks like it was, rather than knowing what it was. Terrible writing.
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output. They were producing some remarkably unusual and un-Disney films. Wish they had those balls now!
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American animation should start making serious,adult films,just like the Japs and Europeans do for years now.I understand that Disney does not want to change its image,but it can create a new label,like it did with Miramax,which will produce such mature films.
Will these films be successful,regardless of how great they are? probably not because thats not how the american audience considers the animated movies,but here is the thing:
if these adult films get accepted by the film critics as equals to the live-action adult films,and they get nominated in the Oscars,in the best picture category or in their own new adult animation category,then the audience will start changing their perception of the adult animations,and eventually will treating as serious,mature works of cinematic art,which are worthy to pay money to watch them in the cinema,just like they would do to pay money to watch Hurt Locker,A serious man or whatever.
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Considering Disney have screwed over cinemas worldwide by cutting back the waiting period between their movies' cinema releases and their DVD releases. Virtually every mainstream cinema in the UK has boycotted Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland movie as a result. This isn't brand spanking new news, but it does make me think a little less of Disney. They claimed they moved forward the DVD release dates in the U.S. because DVD sales are slow this time of year; apparently they did it in Canada because of Father's Day, and they moved it forward in England because of the World Cup. Heh.
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Are we really supposed to feel bad for a multi-billion dollar corporation that got lazy and rested on it's Mickey and Donald laurels? Fuck Disney for this self-fellating piece of propaganda.
That said, I think it will be cool to see Lasseter and Burton in their youth. There's no doubt these were creative geniuses in their own right, but Disney doesn't know its head from its pinky toe. Fuck Disney. -
is pretty fucking amateur. This post is a prime example of that.
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IMHO, Disney is currently suffering from the common Hollywood disease of not taking chances on new concepts. Add to that the pure business reason for straight-to-video schlock. Then add to that the god-awful licensing/merchandising aspects. Mattel always took the shortcut of casting Barbie as the princess character. *inserts finger down throat*. TAKE SOME DAMN CHANCES!!!
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I don't know that it was all that PC. The traditional Disney messages have been somewhat subverted. Even the core message of the Disney THEME TUNE! Wishing upon a star doesn't work without HARD WORK. I thought that was particularly interesting considering Lasseter's history with Disney and what he's acheived after he (ahem) left their employ first time round.
And great to see a rich girl who was kind, and good to her friends instead of the standard movie cliche.
My Wife and I took our 3 YO son to see it, because we are movie geeks who appreciate how important this film is for traditional animation. He Loved it. He also loves Beauty and the Beast- but won't watch Aladdin, it's too noisy and silly.
Granted the songs aren't Ashman and Menkin... but ffs they're Randy Newman.
Come on Harry, this is an Important film, the first hand drawn Disney animation in 5 years - and the first good one in considerably longer!
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It'd just be nice to see feature animation without Disney's stamp on it - either literally or stylistically. If Disney were to take more risks, that would be a step in the right direction. I just think it's a shame that nearly all feature animation resembles Disney animation. There is infinite potential in animation, and it's barely been tapped.
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creatively, I suspect Disney is about to get a swift kick in its lack of nuts by "Brendan, and the Secret of Kells."
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You are spot-on but we'll both be dead before it happens.
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three major cinema chains have decided to boycott disney films. this is down to length of time these cinema chains can show alice in wonderland. Disney has decided to bring forward the dvd release of that film. so Cineworld, Vue and odeon have decided to boycott disney. what this does to toy story 3 is anyones guess.
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and it felt rushed to meet the 90 minute mark. But fuck I still love it, the music and the fucking characters and everything. Beauty and the Beast is really boss too. I'm fucking sick of Pixar. Yeah they're quality but I miss a good Disney 2D musical.
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WTF is Tangled? What a dumb fucking name change. Fuck you Disney, go make another Toy Story and Cars film ya shits.
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I'm about ready to see Disney finally do a Marvel animation pic
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Marvel. Nuff Said
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Feb 21, 2010 5:57:07 PM CST
So really, it's the story of how Disney stopped making...
by royston lodge
...the animated movies that I liked, and started making the animated movies that made me want to gouge the eyeballs out of my skull.
That trailer seems to reference The Great Mouse Detective as a "bad" movie, but it's the last (non-Pixar) Disney animated feature I actually enjoyed!
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this trailer kind of set up the Michael Eisner era as some sort of Golden Age?
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Everybody wants to horde stories for themselves. When you were a kid, you were totally happy with kid's entertainment. But now as an adult, you want those same production houses to cater to your 30 year old ass. Let the kids have the same magic you had. Quit expecting your super heroes and Disney characters to get old and jaded and gritty with you and just find something else to obsess about. Seriously. Let the kids have Disney for God's sake.
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Feb 21, 2010 6:22:23 PM CST
Hopefully they make something at the quality standards of Old Do
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It would be an interesting turn of events if Disney animation started doing less big-eye characters and did instead other styles of faces and character animation - much like animation studios overseas are doing (like Studio 4C and Production IG just to name a couple).
I remember once hearing how Asian animators were inspired by Disney animation which is why so many anime characters have big-eyes. If Disney now abandoned that style, they'd probably have to get inspired by studios like Studio 4C to produce non-big-eye characters.
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a full on porn featuring Arial the mermaid being destroyed by Ron Jeremy..!! Sweet!
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It will be a long-ass time before the US is going to accept an animated film that's aimed at an adult audience. Sometimes things slip though, I know—"Waltz with Bashir" and things like that. But the truth is that when "Coraline" came out, my sister and my mother were upset that someone would make an animated film that would be too scary for my 7-year-old niece. (And who knows if it'd be all that scary to her, really...)
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So, EVERY movie that happens to be animated has to be 7-year-old-friendly, but not every live-action movie has to be held to the same standard?
That seems so very strange to me.
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you know when robots are presented with a logical paradox, and their heads start smoking and vibrating, and they eventually explode? that's what i feel like when i try to read harry's writing.
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I've pretty much banged my head against the wall trying to convince my sister (I've not dared to argue the point with my mom; I think her head would explode) that cartoons don't all have to be for 7-year-olds, but she won't budge on the opinion. Her argument is that people expect animated films to be geared towards kids, so no one should veer from that in case a parent takes their 4-year-old to something inappropriate. I know—that's no argument at all. I suggest that responsible adults should investigate a film before taking their kids to it, but she knows (as I do—we're both in education) that parents don't do that. (I'll never forget the day a 6-year-old sat in front of me during "Superbad".) Still, stupid moms and dads shouldn't keep Hollywood from making smart cartoons. I don't watch a lot of anime, but I have seen some things that I really liked that did some daring things with mood, like "Mushishi" or "Mononoke". I'd love to see someone over here tackle something like that for American screens, but it's never going to happen. No one would go see it because "it's a cartoon, and they're for kids." [As for "Avatar", my sister asked me if it was okay for her to not be interested in it. I said she's entitled to her opinion. That was a weird conversation.]
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...I'm pretty sure he HATED it a Disney...felt constrained and cockblocked at every turn.Look at his face in that clip...there's practically a gun in his mouth.
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Feb 21, 2010 7:34:08 PM CST
...Dingbatty, I agree...lets see some Genndy Tartakovsky...
by flickapoo
...love instead. Disney is a giant that can't seem to get out of it's own way.There are plenty of talented little fish in the sea that need our love and support.
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Yup. Damn right it is.
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@ D Vader,
I agree 100% Disney needs to tackle a classic but in a straight-forward way. No singing, no sidekicks, no animals. I've long thought Frankenstein would be the perfect movie for them to do.
Barring that, I have high hopes of John Carter if they do it in this way.
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a doco called "Dream on silly Dreamer". It doesn't have the guts to anger the litigious brigade, but at least it doesn't paint a disingenuous picture of the time. I mean, fair enough Andreas Deja doesn't want to get himself shitcanned, does he?
I hope someone leaks Sweatbox to the interwebs. I actually thought that even though it was a world away from where they started, that New Groove (the movie, not the show) was the best thing they'd done in ages and neatly avoided all the pitfalls of being overly specific and the pop-culture/referential stuff was no more contrived than the lazy animation somehow = musical convention. It shit all over Shrek anyway. Maybe Trudie Styler should've snuck it on one of her other films, Moon... -
What is there specifically about Frankenstein that makes it ideally suited for 2d animation? Just wondering.
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Dumbo. Small eyes, but still cute as blazes.
And Phantom you're on a sugar high again. P&TF DOES have the same big-eyed (for the heroines/main female characters) style. For that matter so do Groove and Atlantis. Line us the female characters and tell me they're not in the same style. If you hadda said Mulan and Pocahontas maybe you'd have had a point (even though they were as close to the usual Disney style as possible while still maintaining a semblance of their ethnicity. As for the trainwreck of Atlantis they totally wussed out on staying true to Mignola's designs. And I seem to recall a couple of the characters even had different line weights, making them look like stowaways for one of the Disney TV shows.
As if Tiana doesn't slot right in to the lineup of Disney princesses... she even does the unintentionally demeaning Disney rubbernecked take all those female characters do that makes them look like dork/bimbos. Oh but sorry, this time she's being "sassy"! Look, I thought the movie was surprisingly good and it was too bad they were stuck with the whole "post" fairytale thing. So no, I'm not just gunning for it. -
You saw get rid of big eyes, then saw you want a new stylistic look. Sounds more like you want a realistic look.
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became "The Great Mouse Detective" (1986). At the time, critics had great fun renaming all of the Disney classics with generic names. "Tangled"? Yuck.
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...numbers. That would be a decent start.
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Putting Hamlet in Africa and transforming the Danes into Lions... its perfect. Because the whole brother-killing-the-king-to-get-the-throne thing is something lions actually do, too. When male lions take over a pride after fighting off the previous male leader, they'll then kill every cub so that he gets to mate with all the females and continue his blood line instead. Hence, Scar tries killing Simba. It works in Hamlet, but it also works that way in real life too.
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after watching The Lion King. But he couldn't get Carrie Fisher to play a warthog, so he changed them to Great Danes. Disney made it into a film called "The Ugly Dachshund," with Dean Jones and Suzanne Pleshette, in 1966.
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I mean, Jesus, seems like a no-brainer to me.
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For a film that was supposed to be so fresh, what with a black princess and all, it was so contrived and by the numbers I almost fell asleep. It's direct-to-DVD-level Disney, not at all in the same league as true Silver Age Disney films like Lion King or Beauty and the Beast. I re-watched the latter one the other day, and I was struck by how much more powerful, emotional, and imaginative it was than Princess & D Frog. And its music!!! Incredible. No wonder it was nommed for Best Picture. However, despite my admiration for the classics created during the Silver Age, I won't be watching this doc about that fabled time in Disney history is because I know a talented female artist who, during that time, was blocked from the Disney internship because of her age. That's right, her age. She was - gasp - pushing 40. Yeppers, Disney may have finally grown past sexism, but ageism is alive and well in the Mouse House (and it applies to everyone - just ask any older animator, anywhere - they get dumped for eager young "I'll-get-coffee-for-these-guys-I'll-clean-the toilets-I'll-work-for-peanuts-just-gimme-a-chance-Disney!!!!" all the time. Experience and skill can't compete with young and cheap. Sad.)
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This really is one of the worst articles Harry's ever written- both in content and grammar.
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Jesus, what a great way to make Mickey and company relevant again, give them fresh exposure to a new audience and best of all, give them fresh new worlds to adventure in. Seems like a no-brainer to me too, but what is Disney doing instead? Making a movie out of that pathetically-dated Jungle Cruise ride and a movie with those freaking muppets. Good god, and I thought Iger would be an improvement over Eisner...
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"Kimba: The White Lion" from Japan. The Japanese creators of "Kimba" are well aware of this, but they believe that it is dishonorable to make such claims in court, or openly, elsewhere...because of their societal views within their honor code system.
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Although it has a lovely sentiment in the end, it is a boring moving with largely bad animation, and really horrible songs...and too many songs at that!!!
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I would like to see say for example. A Thor Animated film released at the same time as a Thor live action film.
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That's what i would like to see.
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It's time for Disney to amp up.
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These two gentlemen saved Disney's animation division, as well, as the company, as a whole. When Eisner and Wells took over Disney's executive offices, they had a mandate that Eisner set in place: "This company was built on animation...and that is what has made it famous, and its future is there, in animation, not just mainstream, and largely non-family based live action films (which the company was just turning to...at the time). Those aren't Eisner's exact words, but is written in the spirit of what he stated in article at the launch of his reign as Disney's top executive, thus, I find it wonderous to have read that article, and then to have witnessed, from a distance, just as an admirer of the business, see him pull-off his business plan to return Disney back to the top. He did it, and it came solely from him and Frank Wells, and no others were responsible for that edict, although Roy Disney was a great help in supporting that view as a shareholder.
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I would like to see that to.
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I remember it being a scheduled live action project at Disney, about 5 years before the Eisner takeover. It was to be one of Disney's first big blockbuster attempts, just before "The Black Hole" was green-lit. Details about "The Knights of Eden" and its story...were never disclosed, but this was considered a very hot project at the time.
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What a massively disingenuous and stupid thing to say. You can sing to the rooftops that you'll be giving away free money to get elected, but the proof is in the pudding. You want to give them a fucking medal for stating the obvious that at the time Disney flicks were a bit shitty and they really should be, y'know, good again? Then at least rip them down again for the monsters they became. Or did they offer you some kool-aid? Katzenberg was a key part of all that too. And he's a monster as well. They also killed 2d through being inplace to make their own self-fulfilling prophesy come true. For a time at least.
You've gone off the deep end this time MM, or that's a bloody dry deadpan you wield. "Gentlemen" my arse! And you're spectacularly uninformed on the WHOLE story, and Roy E. Disney's support, which had a lot to do with why Eisner and cronies eventually got the boot.
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I would like to see Disney return to taking serious risks. It s time for Disney to break new ground within the realm of animation, instead, for years, after the big breakthrough with "Tron", they have allowed other companies take the lead in animation--instead of being the leaders in high-concept breakthroughs in animation, etc., they simply became spectators, and contracted out to companies like Pixar--laying off much of their animation staff, just for the hell of it...and to save money, while allowing the competition to make money from the very staffers Disney fired?It is time to introduce the next level in animation, a new technology, or a refinement of old technologies, like rotoscoping, or combining animation special effects techniques, special effects make-up, and technologies. They need to sit-down with their Imagineers, film students, and experimental filmmakers, and scheme to bring us the next big thing(!!!) for, it is Disney, that should have come-up with "Avatar", not Fox.
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- and hooray for Brad Bird/Pixar portraying him as an old woman in Incredibles. I'd call the guy a massive dick but being gay he'd probably take it as a compliment...
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Before Michael Eisner and Frank Wells, the leadership of the company completely gave-up on animation. It was over for Disney and animation, in all serious ways. The marketplace did not want animation, and Wallstreet, investors, distributors, and theater exhibitors, were all opposed to it. They saw Don Bluth, Ralph Bakshi, and the film Heavy Metal, etc., fail at the box office, along with Disney's own animated releases, so the view was in--that it was over for animation; hell, even Tron failed. The business model in film had shifted to non-family oriented films, comedies, R rated films, and big live action blockbusters. I am not saying that others did not assist Eisner in implementing his agenda to return Disney to animation, and on a large scale, despite the naysayers, as it is obvious that others like Katzenberg, did assist him--my point however, which you are missing, was, and is, that without him taking that stance, Jeffrey Katzenberg, and others, to a woman or a man, never would have had that chance in the first place without Eisner's push. It started with Eisner, as any movement has to start somewhere, and Eisner was in print back then, saying so and putting his neck on the line, only he and Frank Wells--well before Katzenberg.The Disney executive board was against a return to animation, and Eisner and Wells used their considerable power to change their view, as well as that of the media, the public, and a whole industry...that was dead set against it.
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It sounds like I am associating Heavy Metal with the works of Bluth and Bakshi...the way it reads in my above post, however, I am not. My point is to simple say, that every major animated release that came-out at that time, was considered to be a failure in the marketplace, and the public, especially adults, and teens, had little, to no interest, in animation.
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He certainly looked like it.
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basically IS the new rotoscoping don't you? And effects makeup? Ever heard of Benjamin Button? Did you know that Rick Baker and Kazu Tsuji defined the look of that stuff? I'm glad you're all excited, and hey, I love animation (of ALL kinds) to bits too, but take a breath from the hyperbole dude! If Disney had done Avatar especially under the old regime, it would have been a massive (micro-)mismanaged disaster. Even Cameron who has plenty of caché still had the good sense to fuck off down to N.Z. where suits would leave him alone for the most part. And "contracted out"?! Dude! Read some books!! And read up on the whole firing thing too. It begs belief.
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And it'll save you redundant posts. I've known that quote for decades. You haven't unearthed any treasure there mate. I wasn't arguing about that point -READ what I wrote dude! I was taking issue with your myopic view and wondering if you were as aware of the FULL story. The whole marketplace is a chicken-and-egg thing as it was CAUSED by suits and the knock-on effect of lousy product. I KNOW you didn't say JK didn't assist, obviously, as it was I that mentioned the name in the first place! MY point is they're just words that anyone could say, and it was the usual big worded manifesto that comes with the changing of the guard. The WORDS mean NOTHING. The artists ALWAYS wanted to do GOOD work, even in the nadir of Black Cauldron. They STILL wanted to do great work at the worst of the Eisner regime. And the creative people WERE already there, so the notion that Eisner and Wells gave people their chance in the first place/it started with Eisner is a ridiculously biased way of saying that finally some new suits came in and DIDN'T block the people with the ideas. Big deal! Especially considering that within a short time those suits were EXACTLY like the previous jaded suits and the proof is that the ship sank again.
And Remember too that although the new success really started with Little Mermaid it really took off with Lion King (D.Vader sure it's Hamlet but it's the most shameless ripoff of Kimba the White Lion ever seen) and Aladdin which steals from Thief and the Cobbler which was a decades-old open secret in animation at the time. Again, I'm not saying those were bad at all, and sure they looked miraculous next to the previous stuff, just to be clear. But I am saying you're spouting things without solid knowledge and it makes you sound like a vacuous cheerleader. To only concentrate and defend those fascistic goons on their big words at the beginning and not look at the whole picture makes anyone who knows anything about this stuff dismiss you instantly, that's all. And stop mistaking my "ands" for "ors" or "buts" (like the Katzenberg bit.
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Motion Capture is the new rotoscoping, basically, as you suggested, but, the original application can be employed in many ways that, I am sure, haven't been explored yet, like somehow integrating the two styles. Imagine taking a rotoscoped human figure, or hand drawn Disney characters, and scanning them in a computer, and using them as the 3D models as a basis for motion capture figures? A standard computer created character for motion capture, looks CGI, but rotoscope does not, nor does a hand drawn character. By taking steps to go through this modeling process, traditional animation...to CGI rendering, it will give a new look to these kinds of characters, again, a more traditinal animation feel. n post, Disney animators, can tweak the performances of motion capture actors, and add animator driven performances creating...a seamless merger between the style of the performances. These are the kinds of things, I would suggest the industry try to change things up, while integrating traditional animators into the process of motion capture...from design, to production, and final rendering, and post.
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I didn't unearth anything--and I never said that I did--I simply recall this from memory. Frank Wells died, and things went to hell from there. I am not saying that Eisner is any different from any other greedy executive, he just put the ball back into play for Disney, and the rest would be revisionist history if we denied that fact. If you see my above post, I mention The Lon King rpping off "Kimba"...and I am glad there are others like you who also recognize that, just as George Lucas ripped off the production design and many of the themes and executed style of "Space Cruiser Yamato" aka "Space Battleship Yamato", aka "Star Blazers". You'll not that Yamato debuted in theaters in Japan in 1974. Glen Larson, the creator of Battlestar Galactica used this against Lucas in a lawsuit that Lucas filed against Larsen for stealing deas from "Star Wars'...well Larson countered with the help of the creator of Yamato and admitted that both he and lucas stole ideas from Yamato. You'll note that both Star Wars and Galactica had the same tow production designer, and special effects superviser, who presumably were directed by both Lucas and Larson to rip-off Yamato. It's the Hollywood way, to steal!Sure Eisner is a fascist goon, but so was Walt Disney who was a supporter of Hitler and the Nazis, speaking of fascist goons. Look, i love Disney's work, but I don't have to like his politics. I know Hitler was a very smart man, but his policies were wrong, and Eisner was smart to stand-up for animation at Disney when he first came to the company, and a fool for undermining it later on, just before he was ousted from the commpany...for his self interest, power trips, and greed, and deservedly so. All power corrupts, absolutely.You are a fine bloke, nice to meet you!!!
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Calling out Frog as largely badly animated renders anything you have to say about hand-drawn animation utterly irrelevant.
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Stop with the pandering here, just the same with "Up"...I have had it with all the lies that Up is a great movie, or even good, for that matter, these false accolades are simply paid for media hype. Up is one of the weakest animated efforts ever, and so is Frog--however, "Happy Feet" is brilliant!!!
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...the moment you were paid to stop listening. Now, although "Frog" is hand drawn and "Up" computer rendered...each just fell flat in their specific frameworks. Let's take Frog for instance, the songs were horrible, which helped to fully undermine the movie--however, you said nothing about that while taking aim at me, despite the fact that this is something that I covered while appraising the film. The movie could have also benefited from shorter songs, and far less songs. Also, the director could have easily trimmed some scenes, including the scene where the heroes went the wrong way while seeking the witch, and at least one false ending, both scenes leading to the film carrying on for another 25 minutes than it needed to, thus, harming the flow of the film?As for Up, it just went from a very sweet silent opening...to boring, to kid friendly silliness, which took over the film. There was never a real story there, just a not so high...gimmicky...high concept, about a house with balloons attached to it that takes-off in the sky with people in it, and adventure looms--but in trying to make a story, surrounding the gimmick, they ran-out of anything real or interesting to say other than the opening ten minutes of the film, and all told...without words? It was all non-offensive fluff!!!
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the beginning of up is truly brilliant. the problem is the movie goes down hill when we get to meet and like wall-e the film collapses under its own weight. wall-e was far too preachy and it was message that I for one didnt buy as i said at the time. that said the that scene where carl frederickse is looking at the scrap book which documents his life is heartbreaking.
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when we get to meet Charles Muntz
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pixar have had since the incredibles...
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Nope, not British, Aussie (our use of mate and bloke is pretty different if you're in either camp). Yeah true you didn't say that about unearthing, so I can see it might seem a bit hypocritical in a certain light - I was really just trying to say calm down dude, calm down! Mainly because you weren't admitting the other side of the coin earlier. Usually it's fine to discuss just an aspect, but in the case of Eisner I think the dodgy stuff is absolutely pertinent and must be mentioned in the same breath because it throws those words into a different light. Of course having said that people tell me to take a breath here too. Ironically one of the subjects I try to battle ignorance on the most is animation, and especially digital and practical effects. I get on my high horse there because 99.9% of talkbackers don't know what the fuck they're on about.
Yeah, Lucas had to settle/give credit with Jean "Moebius" Giraud for stuff on Empire too. Can't recall now but I think it was the spidery probe droid. As for Yamato/Star Blazers I don't think it was as overt as say, Dune, but yep Larson was canny to use it against him. I still think Larson should've lost because the most apparent stealing was in hiring key people like McQuarrie and Dykstra to replicate the look, the shapes and used universe aesthetic which I think trumps Yamato. But that's my subjective thing there and hey I'm not trying to raise any real opposition there! At least the biggest ripoff - Hidden Fortress was truly an homage and Lucas and Coppola did help the master out when he couldn't get anything made. Another one is Dam Busters. I actually think Lucas is more an editor than a director and when it comes to plagiarism it's all just puzzle pieces for the collage to him. He means well enough, but... Having said that I don't know why the prequels have such an awful flow, editing-wise. Not the scenes themselves (not letting your actors or even board artists know the preceding or following scenes will fuck things up royally because there's no context and therefore contrast or structural effectiveness), but the actual rhythm and flow. But hey, that's another one that's been debated ad-nauseam in many other TBs!
On Disney being a racist & Nazi supporter, I dunno any more. A lot of the fire there was taken out when the people pointing the fingers turned out to be sensationalists trying to sell product so the argument deflates a little. We'll probably never know the whole of it I guess. And it's "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" from memory.
And Up IS a great movie dude! C'mon! They went hardcore and committed to a story about an almost 80 year old dude! Probably less appealing as a concept than a rat in a kitchen! And even if you're gonna level the Saving Private Ryan argument at it, I argue that its Ryan moment was more ambitious than that movie and achieved in a couple of minutes what most live-action films can't achieve these days. My view anyway. Frog's fine and nowhere near the absolute tripe of say, Chicken Little. Happy Feet is a funny one, my judgement there is a little clouded. D.Vader probably knows why, heh (little in-joke)! -
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It's sure not as bad as "Rapunzel Unbraided"!
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BRILLIANT! C'mon, this sounds like something Jon Peters would come up with, "Yeah, tiny little dot eyes on everyone... an'...an'... I want a gay robot and a giant spider in every script!"
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...Where's Harry's review of Princess and the Frog? There's not one! He obviously thought "...it was kind of meh." Case closed. Now, while I disagree with his method of choosing which films he'd like to acknowledge the existence of, I do have to say that it's his website and he can do whatever the hell he wants with it.
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...yet, somewhere in their arguments, disregard UP and Wall-E. Both of those were absolutely classic, beautifully constructed stories, animated with unbelievable skill. To not recognize that puts you on shaky ground, IMO. I am also stunned that there isn't a HELL of a lot more discussion on here of Miyazaki... you know, the acknowledged master of 2-D? The man who NEVER gave up on this medium? And, y'all can defend Eisner for bringing back animation from its coma after The Black Cauldron (because that is 100% true) but lets not forget Cinderella 2 etc., straight-to-DVD monstrosities. He brought Disney's animation legacy back to life, but turned it into Frankenstein's monster... before they turned it into a cookie-cutter process which gave us Mulan... before, ultimately, returning their 2-D animation to a coma again. Disney will probabloy never be a force for animation again. Princess and the Frog looks beautiful, but its STILL the same routine for them. If they could just get away from MUSICALS, that might be a step in the right direction... but anyone suggesting a seriously edgy Disney is dreaming. They're WAY too attached to their Burger King merchandizing tie-ins.
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is evidence of why animation, in this country, has such a very limited audience. In Japan, Miyazaki's films are avidly viewed by ALL ages... in this country, they're often relegated to "kids' fare." (Read: Dollar Bird's post re: animation... there are a LOT of people like his sister, who feel that animation should be geared towards 4 to 7 year olds.) With UP, Pixar went farther than it even had- farther than ANYONE had since the early years of Disney- to tell a story for adults as well as children. Not a kids' movie with references for adults, but a story that really was more adult, that dealt with adult issues. I would actually argue that that movie wasn't for kids... and kids under age 10 probably didn't get too much of Carl's story. I believe completely that the movie was marketed incorrectly... but then, that's Disney for you. They know from talent, for sure, but they have NO IDEA what that talent is doing... of course, that's what you get when you hire number-crunchers, with zero backround in what they're selling. I come across this all the time in the wine business... 90% of the salespeople out there are graduates of marketing school, but know jack shit about wine... "know your product" isn't really part of the equation. It's not even encouraged. Same deal with Disney, sadly.
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"...We've got a gang of dinosaurs to kill...."
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It's all a matter of opinion and I'm cool with that. I, and millions of others loved Up - but I wasn't talking about that movie.
All I merely said is that to say Princess and the Frog has largely bad animation just isn't correct. To say that is to say that Disney's best animation from the 90's is bad. Would you say that?
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You made some good points.
We're totally in agreement on Wall-E and Up btw.
I think Disney is caught between wanting to deliver hand-drawn fairy-tale musical films that they are renowned for (and no one else does better btw), whilst at the same time maybe wanting to do something different.
I don't think they can be accused for not trying to however in recent years.
Aladdin, for example, was an utter revelation when it came out. Changed animated films forever. Its hip, post-modern, thunderbolt feel really was innovative.
Frog was actually the first 'fairytale with songs' feature they'd made in quite some time.
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i think the problem with Pixar is that they are distributed by Disney and people associate that with kiddie fare. (not me)..remember that this was a studio who freaked out and created a sister studio to release adult fare(touchstone) so i really blame them for painting themselves into this corner...PIXARs content has gotten further and further from kid fare IMO..one films about a rat (not a cute friendly mouse) who wants to cook and be creative..(not really a trailblazer in your normal kids fantasies) and then you have a robot and fat people and then an old man as the main attraction...kudos to them..disney was smart to keep them around...loved BOLT by the way.
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Feb 22, 2010 9:56:47 AM CST
there was a nice DOC on TCM about the live action films of disne
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DVRd it..
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when ireland was bankrupt. they used to fill the schedules with inports from canada, like the edison twins and lolek and bolek(which was czeckoslovakia which is divided in two and czeck and slovak), and halas and bachelor cartoons and some obscure cartoons narrated by vincent price.
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for anyone who grew up in ireland in the 1980s. is Hamilton the musical elepahnt. which was shown after the 6'oclock news on rte one.
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Walt Disney did not support Hitler or the Nazi Party. You are so full of crap.
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Straight Dope article on Wald Disney: http://tinyurl.com/5yk2aj
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Will not be mentioned in this movie?
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I though Princess and The Frog was good but I long for the days of Heavy Metal, Nimh and Lady And The Tramp. Hopefully Lasseter will take a cue from the Japanese and not only do more hand drawn flicks like Satoshi Kon but more adult stories. There are so many good books and comics to to adapt in a 2D style its amazing what they AREN'T doing honestly.
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...Ralph Bakshi's Coonskin. We need more films like that! And that kind of thing will pack people into seats. People want to be shocked and surprised. Why do you think reality shows are so popular? Because people like sex, violence and dysfunction. These Hoarders shows for example are depressing as fuck but so many people watch them. People are tired of all the wussy crap that Hollywood keeps churning out. Fuck CGI. Give us old school 2D hand drawn with a Last Boy Scout/Shane Black style script and the movie will be a gigantic hit.
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of Belleville. Not a super stylised Disney look, but just great caricature. From memory I think the ending was a little weak but I loved pretty much everything else, not much dialogue so pretty palatable even to the non subtitle-reading middle-American contingent, and nice balance between the broad and quieter stuff. But mainly I just like good caricature which isn't overwhelmed by a 'house' look.
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...how the Lion King "coincidentally" matched a Japanese cartoon series.
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could it have a little less sleepy storyline? I can't stand animation that says "hey we're art" ... and "look at us an appreciate us for art sake... we don't need to have a compelling story... just one that's weird enough to keep your attention"
I am a huge 2D art fan and I almost fell asleep in that movie. Sooooo boring.
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Don't forget Disney history... they lost 11 of their senior animation staff when Don Bluth lead the great exodus from Disney because of how poorly they were treated and how Disney Execs were getting their fingers into everything ( sound familiar Pixar? )
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Well we did a few times further up anyway. I always wish I'd bought that t-shirt that had Simba looking into a mirror/at Kimba with the caption "The Lying King".
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Feb 22, 2010 8:50:37 PM CST
FriendlyWaitress why does disney have to fulfill that?
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One are I disagree with you on is that Disney has to leave the musical genre. Why? While the animation you reference is truly awesome, why is it Disney's responsibility to deliver that? I don't understand why there aren't more world class animation studios in the US. TV cartoons have turned to utter shit because instead of leveraging the benfits of modern CG to make better TV cartoons, studios ( in the US ) simply use CG to make *cheaper* cartoons.
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Funny you talked about the Yamato defence - I wonder if that's what Disney's army of lawyers would have used if Tezuka had sued? "Well YOU ripped off that Bill Shakespeare guy TOO ya know!"...
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That thing took me completely by surprise. Went to see it at the last session (because it didn't make any money), and couldn't believe how great it was. Muppet-style cg, and just loads of fun and amazing timing. Got the Blu-ray and have watched it twice since. Mr T rocks.
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This from thestraightdope.comSearch The Straight Dope
A Staff Report from the Straight Dope Science Advisory Board
Was Walt Disney a fascist?
April 12, 2005
Dear Straight Dope:
I've heard rumors on and off for years about Walt Disney. I've heard suggestions that he was a fascist, a communist, a racist and an antisemite. The first two are of course contradictory. Web searches didn't help to straighten out anything in my mind. Was he a political nut? Did he hate blacks and Jews? Or are these typical malicious lies we like to tell about great men so we don't have to feel so unaccomplished?
— Joseph Kenner, North Hollywood, CA
Hold it there, hoss. That's a lot of accusations for one letter. Let's try to break it down a bit and see if we can sort some things out here.
One of the more curious charges against Disney was that he was a secret Nazi. A few white supremacist groups still cherish this notion. Their best evidence is a misreading of the short film "Der Fuehrer's Face" (1943), in which Donald is seen in a Nazi uniform, swastikas and all. In the end we find out it's all a nightmare, but that doesn't dissuade the racists. A lesser-known short sometimes cited is 1932's "The Wayward Canary," in which Mickey is seen using a cigarette lighter with a swastika painted on the side.
This is all circumstantial at best, but other suggestive details have come to light. In 1933, the German American Bund was founded by Fritz Kuhn. Kuhn was evidently quite a character--he had met Hitler in the early thirties and reportedly was profoundly loathed by the Nazi leader. An association of German immigrants to America, the Bund had a definite pro-Nazi slant. Disney animator Art Babbitt claimed his boss had a strong interest in, if not outright sympathy for, the Bund:
In the immediate years before we entered the War there was a small, but fiercely loyal, I suppose legal, following of the Nazi party . . . There were open meetings, anybody could attend and I wanted to see what was going on myself. On more than one occasion I observed Walt Disney and [Disney's lawyer] Gunther Lessing there, along with a lot of prominent Nazi-afflicted Hollywood personalities. Disney was going to meetings all the time.
The German filmmaker Leni Riefenstahl, whose documentaries in the mid-30s had helped to glorify the Nazis, claimed that "after Kristallnacht [1938], she approached every studio in Hollywood looking for work. No studio head would even screen her movies except Walt Disney. He told her he admired her work but if it became known that he was considering hiring her, it would damage his reputation."
For the most part Disney doesn't appear to have had strong political views--his politics seemed to turn on whatever it took to keep his studio going. It's likely his interest in the German American Bund sprang from a desire to forge relationships with Germany for possible film distribution there. On the other hand, there was a lot of antisemitic feeling in the Disney studio. While no one can specifically attribute bias to Disney himself, Jewish people were ready fodder for the animators' gags and Disney approved every scene in every short the studio made. In one scene in the original version of "The Three Little Pigs," the Big Bad Wolf comes to the door dressed as a stereotypical Jewish peddler. Disney changed the scene after complaints from Jewish groups. They didn't catch them all, though. In the short "The Opry House" Mickey Mouse is seen dressed and dancing as a Hasidic Jew.
Disney did have heartfelt opinions about a few things--he was virulently anti-communist and he was suspicious of unions, much like other studio heads of his day. In 1941, a strike was called against the Disney studios by animators and other artists dissatisfied that they got no onscreen credit for their work and were paid less than animators at other studios. Walt felt his company was more of a family and that the camaraderie compensated for substandard wages. He considered the strike a result of the "growing Communist conspiracy" in the United States. The dispute ended bitterly and hardened Disney's conservative and anti-communist attitudes.
Eventually he was called before the House Unamerican Activities Committee as a friendly witness, naming names of suspected communists in Hollywood. (The complete transcript of his testimony can be read at www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/episodes/06/documents/huac/disney.html.) There is some inconclusive evidence that he might have been an FBI informant. However, this allegation comes from Marc Eliot's book Walt Disney: America's Dark Prince, which, while largely factual, does have parts that could use a good debunking. So take this with a large dose of salt.
Sources
Watts, Steven, The Magic Kingdom: Walt Disney and the American Way of Life, 1997
Eliot, Marc, Walt Disney: Hollywood's Dark Prince, 1993
Cohen, Karl F., Forbidden Animation: Censored Cartoons and Blacklisted Animators in America, 1997
Thomas, Bob, Walt Disney: An American Original, 1976
— Eutychus
Staff Reports are written by the Straight Dope Science Advisory Board, Cecil's online auxiliary. Though the SDSAB does its best, these columns are edited by Ed Zotti, not Cecil, so accuracywise you'd better keep your fingers crossed. -
...why did he hire so many Jews? And why, when he's been called an anti-Semite, have many of those Jews (such as the Sherman brothers, the songwriters for such Disney films as "Mary Poppins") spoken out against it? And why did the B'nai Brith organization, which was formed specifically to fight anti-Semitism, give Walt an award? Also: The Dark Prince book has been pretty thoroughly debunked by more reliable sources, such as Walt's daughter and nephew, several of his employees, and various Hollywood actors and producers who knew him when. It'd be nice if this Walt-was-evil crap would just stop. But as long as doofs like Seth McFarlane think they can squeeze a joke out of it, and people like the poster above keeps trying to keep the lie alive, I suppose that's not likely to happen anytime soon...
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...a judge can't help one criminal benefit from another criminal. Say, a pimp is ripped-off by a prostitute, for instance? That pimp can't then go into court and say, "Your honor, this prostitute...who worked for me, illegally, didn't share profits from a John (a male client) with me, in the course of a crime, that being sex for money...so I am suing her for my cut of the 500 dollars she received in that ilegal act, although we had a oral contract". A judge can only look at that and say, "Both of you have committed crimes, and in the act of committing those crimes, one of you defrauded the other, therefore it would be illegal for this court to intercede and help one party, benefit over another, when both were engaged in acts of a criminal conspiracy, one which triggered this case in the first place, hence, I must throw this case out of court!" Well, in the spirit of that law, in the case of Lucas vs. Larsen, Lucas lost.
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If they really want a movie to give a male hero, then by all means talk to Andrew Lloyd Weber and make an animated movie of Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat. Can you really get better than a Weber - Rice musical? I don't think so.
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..she lets out a wild one and gets banished from the kingdom..Kinda like the Prince and the Pauper but with a fart...Or maybye a cartoon version of "Trading Places"...Wait...that's the White House and the mainstream media cartoon...Still, anything with Eddie Murphy..People really WANT TO SEE!...Ya know?
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"Ratatoille" was a great film, and I was shock by its quality, and even that of "Happy Feet"--I find them both to be modern classics. I disagree about debating, I love the fact that you are opinionated, and are willing to stand-up to fight for it, and yes...I agree with you that there are a lot of idiots on AICN.com who are just shouting to hear themselves shout, but then again, most of the net is like that. About Lucas, well, two women saved his first two "Star Wars" films, his wife--at the time, saved Star Wars through her final edit of the film, something that Lucas admits, and secondly, a female writer who was a famed SF author, who sadly died of cancer while finishing her work on Empire. Lawrence Kasdan got most of the credit, but she was responsible for most of the work that everyone was raving about, the stuff about wisdom and other Buddhist themes. Without her, "Return of The Jedi"...and later, the Star Wars prequels...were just...plain bad.As for Disney, he use to spy on his employees and go through their wastepaper baskets, after hours, looking for things in the trash, notes, and what not, to use against them. He was a corporate bully much like Michael Eisner, and often cheated his employees, specfically his animators, with low wages.
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It seems to me that this talkback has more well thought out ideas and is more interesting and articulate in places than the article was. Poor effort Harry... and brilliant effort talkbackers!!!
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for some reason. i think its his commericiality that people dislike. Bar starlight express and by jeeves and the new Joesph. I have seen his work. Jesus christ is my personal. and I have never seen anything like the stage set for cats. the late maria bjornssons set for phantom really is the greatest thing I have ever seen.
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in the pipeline. written by tom stoppard. it ever happened. Elaine pages Memory. still remains the greatest performance by stage star. and don't forget dont cry for me argentina.
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I wonder if they interview him for the movie? He was offered to be head of animation and direct Alladin i think. That would have been something.
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are the princesses and love stories. As a kid I always rolled my eyes when the leads had that final theatrical kiss. Look at some of the best Disney films (IMHO) The Jungle Book: the fantastic story of a kid growing up surrounded by animals singing awesome songs or Dumbo: family/personal acceptance story with an adorable elephant and a psychedelic drunk scene. More recently, Lillo and Stitch was cute as hell and Aladdin worked because of the comedy in it. Disney should put away the template of "spunky princess meets guy, they banter and fall in love" and focus of more fantasy adventure stories.
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Eugene Lambert. Creator of bosco, Wanderely Wagon and the founder of Eugene Lambert puppet theatre, has died aged 82. He was the irish jim henson. He is survived by his wife Mai and his 8 children.
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on rte from 1967 - 1982. bosco is a legend.
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NAVAL GAZING: THE MOVIE!
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I'm sorry, if dolphins aren't getting slaughtered in your documentary, I'm NOT interested.
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Triplettes would have been ridiculous if "less sleepy" eh? That comment ignores what the film is, who the characters are and therefore the whole point. If it's not for you, fine, but "Soooo Boring" makes you sound like a teenaged valley girl with no attention span or appreciation for character. "Hey we're art" my arse. If they'd listened to you it would have been some mainstream Hollywood extreme sports bullshit. And then you call yourself a fan of 2d 'art'! Mixed messages man. The notion that they shoulda upped the testosterone in the metronome is just bullshit. Let's have more old-fashioned stuff and DIFFERENT stuff too. I thought you wanted difference as well? Well that inarticulate slam advocates more of the same old, same old. C'mon, dude! God knows what you thought of Fantastic Planet!!! Every bit as French in a different way.
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like I see em. Tripplettes is not the masterpice everyone wants it to be. If it were a 20 minute art film, it would have been great. It wasn't 20 minutes.
I think you might have been arguing with someone else if you think I'm a big fan of mainstream hollywood. But come on... what "character" development is there in Tripplettes? There are plenty of "characatures" , but that's OK. Each person in that film was meant to represent something. I get that. But it doesn't mean it's deep.
Visually it was interesting, but that's not enough to hold you for 2 hours ( or 90 min in the case of Tripplettes IIRC )
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Catch me up. What is this thread about?
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is a self congratulatory doc about how the 80s disney animation was floundering and how it made its triumphant comeback...looks good...but im sure its gonna be sugarcoat the bad stuff...maybe even skip don bluth altogether...watch the trailer...
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You got a better link?
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Bananas and blow-OH! Stuck in my cabana, livin' on bananas and blow!
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Feb 24, 2010 11:32:57 AM CST
Harry wants a Disney that'll appeal "primarily to adults."
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Isn't that what James Cameron is for? Oh wait, "slave to a child's attention span." That counts him out.
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Disney Channel teen-singers in it.
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We're all subjective. I'm happy to agree to disagree. The slower pace reinforces the loneliness and long days of the kid and then his continued isolation in the hard slog of the tour (there's been so much evangelising of guys like Armstrong so that now people expect the whole thing's the same sort of extreme sport they see on ESPN). The minutia especially with the Grandma supports her provincial ways, same with the sleepy old dog, faded, petty, squabbling has-beens the triplettes and so on. I think that absolutely supports the slower pace of the thing, and to me it's therefore not indulgent or arty-farty at all.
Hey, it's not exactly a Tarkovsky flick, is it?! ;)
Finally, on a technical level, do you know why you don't generally see animated characters with long pointy noses and wide angle shots (most tv animation and even Miyazaki os pretty much isometric!)? Perspective in hand-drawn animation is bloody HARD! American stuff might have dencent noses but they'll be a copout like an oval shape or long vertically but not horizontally. I know this is super technical and geeky, but both through things like that AND the level of true caricature in the character designs absolutely advanced the medium.
I don't think you're a big mainstream fan, was just saying that your "it's Boooooring" slant sounds exactly the same as someone who IS that lowest common denominator mainstream person, that's all. Note I said it MAKES you sound that way, not that you necessarily are. And I stand by my previous comments too.
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Feb 24, 2010 11:41:31 AM CST
Vades suggestion of a Disney Frankenstein is interesting.
by subtitles_off
What about an all black-n-white, with hints of red and gold, animated Nosferatu, or, even better, Cabinet of Dr. Caligari with MC Escheresque background designs?
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as in big, but not challenging perspective-wise. DECENT. Duh...
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Those would be cool as shorts I think... Like they did back in the day...even something like they did with mickeys Xmas carol... And attach it to a film like pixar does...
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Boring my ass.
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http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/02/21/waking-sleeping-beauty-trailer-disneys-real-fairytale
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Boy, is he going to get a talking to.
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...good conversation.
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WHAT about Frankenstein makes it ideal for HAND-DRAWN animation as opposed to live-action? Not saying it's ridiculous, just asking.
Oh and btw did you know ILM had their own internally generated CG Frankenstein movie in development about a decade ago where it was supposedly based on Wrightson's stuff? They were getting sick of generating money for OTHER people and wanted something they could own. From memory I think Uni were supposed to distribute or something and bailed so when things crashed and burned ILM were super pissed off and Uni had to make it up to them by awarding them big shows for a while whether they were as competitive as other quotes or not. Anyway that's how my dodgy memory recalls it... -
Still not acceptable.
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Feb 24, 2010 11:52:13 AM CST
..."Perspective in hand-drawn animation is bloody HARD!"...
by flickapoo
...truth.
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Imagine having the balls to animated Chaplin's Tramp and set him on a series of adventures. Disney and Pixar could sell series of shorts in all sorts of styles, from "G-rated" to "PG-13" to theaters who could then play them instead of that fucking bombastic National Guard Recruitment propaganda. People might go to the theater just to catch the pre-show.I also want a return of the serial, dammit. That's how DC Comics and Marvel should market their characters. Nobody wants NAMOR BEGINS, I don't care what you think.
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It won't last long. Getting fucked over by a client and up at almost 5 in the morning while sending off emails. I'll be slagging everyone off pretty shortly!
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http://tinyurl.com/yjzkzfq
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...FUTURE BOY CONAN? I keep trying to find another human who has seen it...no luck yet.
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...you mean it's Wednesday?
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At AMC they used to run loony toons before the film...
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you could argue against hand-drawn gothic sets and retro-science labs. I don't think the subject matter has to be "ideal" to suit the medium. An animation style incorporating a design based on wood-etching would be mind-blowing. Remember, the argument is the advance of hand-drawn animation and the inclusion of styles beyond the "big-eyed" Disney style. (A style, by the way, that Your Lord Cameron plagiarized for his latest, so careful how you denigrate it, boys. ((Not you, specifically, white_vades, but anyone with a knee-jerk anti-old-fashioned-Disney prejudice who then admits a boner for AVATAR must be suffering multiple personality disorder.)))
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I always have the first typo when we BMAF!
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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, YES! The movies will continue to compete with TV with 3D and "immersion," sure, but why not "enhance the experience" even more while dumping the damned commercials?
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...Bernie Wrightson's FRANKENSTEIN?Pretty impressive I thought.
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for studios to test out their up and coming stars.
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I have a big honking hardcover of it on my bookshelf.
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...shorts before a movie. I swear you can feel the mood in the theater improve immediately.
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How do you correctly spell that anyway?
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...my man.Nothing like hard covers.
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Did you watch it? Did it work? Is it secret? Is it safe?
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Now tell me "AMC, exclusive home of Pixar and Disney short films™" wouldn't make some of us go to their chain rather than Kerasotes?
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Did I watch which?
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...to see it as an incubator for upstarts too.
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You got your "Hard-R" audience covered.
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Stop-motion shorts.
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I say the second one but tedders corrected me and said the third one
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...pair the short with an appropriately rated feature.
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Short docs, short sports, short comedies, student shorts. Daisy Dukes' short shorts.
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The trailer
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that's the one I was talking about when mentioning the failed ILM cg version to Subs.
And Subs, gotcha. After seeing that Fears of the Dark animated anthology (I think that's what it was called), either the Charles Burns or Richard McGuire stuff would work awesomely well for Frank in terms of effective visual style. And sure, a Wrightson one too, cg OR hand-drawn.
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I agree with whomever above said this will only tell the first half of an interesting story. The second half would document how it all fell apart amongst that "perfect storm of artists" when they got some money in their pockets and began to bicker like brats.
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An anthology of short films, the best of which animated a pitch-black room.
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of QT's the Bride with studio 4 uh, c or d or whatever they're called?
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and you got the "hyperlocal" stuff covered.
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It's a need.
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...Sarasota FL. The fact that Disney grabbed a lot of people from there was the initial attraction.By the time I graduated I didn't even apply...Disney already looked like wage-slavery at that point.
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encourage the renaissance of music video.
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Feb 24, 2010 12:28:45 PM CST
i think animation is wage-slavery for the most part, Flick.
by subtitles_off
You have to spend years risking hand-cramps drawing slight variations of the same dog, in order to get promoted into the room where the really creative stuff goes down.
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...are in cool little artsy-fartsy towns. I bet people would love it if you could show shorts by local talent from time to time.I wonder if digital projectors would make that more possible? I'm technologically illiterate.
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Spike Jonze would agree.
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...thanks Subs.
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...correct mid-life-crisis theory.I don't have the time to get into it today...and I'm not sure the person is a serious contender...
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Surely, they already show short films before the feature at Arclight Cinemas.
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of which thou speaketh?
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...Bilbo is a Hobbit who NEVER went out into the world to seek adventure...and his life could hardly be more settled in a more comfortable rut.
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The guy/gal reveals itself to be a literalist wanker by essentially saying it's just about a hobbit surviving a dragon. Not worth the time or energy to argue.
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Instead of all this quick-cut, give-away-all-the-secrets nonsense we've got now, use a series of shorts to lay the back-story for an upcoming feature. Pique peoples' interests with characters and situations, and, yet, ruin nothing about the upcoming main event.
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...no fancy dashes required.
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as it were, dropped from the middle of the word.
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with your fancy dash. Think you're special?
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I was just brain-storming.
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Is called the sweatbox directed by mrs. Sting....Good luck finding it
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...mid↔life crisis? mid▬life crisis? mid~life crisis? mid≈life crisis?...to dress it up a little?
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a novel called Farragan's Retreat?
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you were complaining about the navigating at Googleville being confusing!Pish, you. And posh.
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Sadly, it's out of print, but used copies are very affordable on Amazon. The author, Tom McHale, had a brief moment of literary stardom in the 70s following his debut PRINCIPATO (another good one) and FARRAGAN'S RETREAT. Unfortunately, he drank himself into obscurity and killed himself in 1983.
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Feb 24, 2010 12:57:09 PM CST
...vaguely Colon-El. Is it relatively new? I feel as though...
by flickapoo
...I read a blurb or review about is somewhere...
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This time the NBC interviewer gets to ask him, "Are you stupid?"
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...on that guy recently. Sad story. Lots of talent...just couldn't seem to get any traction in life.Gave me chills really. Quite a cautionary tale.
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that Johnny Depp has gotten all wrapped up in?
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http://tinyurl.com/ygwzdn6 http://tinyurl.com/yjvqrne
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...speaking of midlife mid~life crisis...
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Jaclyn Smith and Ann-Margret to appear in the same episode of "SVU."
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The football player whose brain was destroyed by football playing.
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get a hold of that article.
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He and Jake Gyllenhaal both turned down [deleted].http://tinyurl.com/yekhk6vWell done, both of you. Now, regarding PRINCE OF PERSIA, Jake, can I see you for a sec over at the side of the room?
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...it was a few years ago I think.
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I just wish the movie wasn't going to be directed by Gary Ross.
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...sometimes I can't remember if an article was New Yorker or The Atlantic, but I'm getting zip on both...I'm sure I read it. He had a whole strange relationship with his wife or something...right?
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maybe damon too...
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...ABOUT THE KENNEDYS YOU NEED...ASK HOW MANY MOVIES AND DOCUMENTARIES ABOUT THE KENNEDYS NEED YOU!
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is "tougher" than Matt Damon or Jake Gallpagosislands?Bwah-ha-ha-ha.
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no i think sam worthington is pretty new to the game adn therefore is naive enough to be molded into anything Cam wished...furthermore matt prolly didnt want to leave his wife and kids and jake was trying to get it on with reese...
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no way in hell could jake and matt handle that animal...
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I wish I had Nexis Lexis.
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neither Matt nor Jake were all that interested in being turned into cartoon characters for the big-budget remake of FERNGULLY. So much for the future of movies.
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lessee which gets better reviews..avatar or PoP
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I think classic literature lends itself better to animation, often, than live action. Imagine MOBY DICK, HUCK FINN, the works of Poe, Thurber's 13 CLOCKS or Lofting's DOLITTLE books.
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so the field is fair.
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After that, we can compare CLASH OF TITANS to the Bourne movies and BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN.Jebus!
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China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China? China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China. China.
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id agree with ya about the literary works being ripe..but look how disney handled HUNCHBACK..not a bad film per se.. but what a downer...and the comic relief gargoyles..yikes...other than that..i think its prolly the one of the best animated films of that time..they should have gone the full nine and just made it straight up than cater to the mickey d's crowd..who in the end hated it anyway..
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Even if [deleted] wins an Oscar, it can still be brain-dead junk.
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no we cant do that...we can basically only compare their respective films that they were working on at the time..matt basically chose to work on the INFORMANT...and jake..well he chose reese..and PoP...
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Sorry, I didn't respond. I didn't see it 'til this morning. By then, you'd figured everything out already.
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but i dont want it to win..i actually want IB or hurt locker to win...as Cams said..give it to someone else, he already has some...hahahhahahah
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i shuttered the windows by then and cried in the corner..i thought i was alone..thank god...
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Actually, I think it has the best music in any Disney film of this period. I found a lot more in it to enjoy than I did in MULAN or POCAHONTAS.
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But how long until the top is at the bottom and everything turns sideways? It's only a matter of time, you know.
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Disney's 'Cabinet of Dr.Callgirl'.
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A mis-firing attempt to do for stone sculpture what they did for chinaware in BEAUTY AND THE BEAST.
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GM's sale of the brand fell through, and it's starting to "wind down" production!
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It's about time for Ahnold to glorify some new brand of vehicle for the post-steroids, small-balled man.
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hunchback is pretty good..just mismarketed...yer right about the songs and animation though..mulan was good..and how they modeled it on old asian art...
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thats the shit (caligari) that burton was trying to do at disney back in the day...
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Feb 24, 2010 2:03:49 PM CST
Some drunk rednecks cooking mushrooms wrapped in bacon and ribs.
by anonymoose
A million times more entertaining than the Food Network.
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as motionless stone statues that Quasi only imagined he could have conversations with. He could imagine them as "real" and they'd appear as a dragon, a devil, whatever they were, but whenever anyone else was around they'd just be stone.Would've been the first meta-textual Disney cartoon.
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He didn't mis-spell "Caligari." he meant "Call-girl."
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recently..and she noted that they are soooo mean to "quasi" and frollo isnt a nice person.
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jsut flew by me on that one.
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Be funny to yell "Glenn Beck's a fucktard, and Junior is a homo" at that dude and watch him get up to chase you and fall off his leg.Of course, he'd probably just shoot you.
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was the "honest" alternative to the HUMMER. Fat idiots (I'm a fat intellectual) who thought they were still muscular freaks and were keen on constantly reliving their glory days would drive HUMMERs to feel all muscle-y. FJ Cruisers are to HUMMERS as middle-aged, flabby former steroid users are to steroid-using bodybuilders in their glistening, chiseled prime.
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You sure there isn't something you want to confess to your fiancee?
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Oh wait, we were talking about the Gargoyles in Hunchback? I thought they were a neat addition and like to pretend they only existed in his head. All those times they fought against soldiers? All in Quasi's head. Like Tyler Durden, he "saw" them acting out things he was actually doing. And he moved them around like they were mobile. It works.
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...steroid-using bodybuilders in their glistening, chiseled prime...but I gotta run.
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Is fucking EPIC. I turn up my speakers everytime that song plays on my iPod.
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Made my own animations in middle school. I waffled between Disney animator and paleontologist before setting on filmmaker and deciding I'd one day make my own animated movie about dinosaurs.
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Feb 24, 2010 2:14:44 PM CST
Hey, I'm not the one talking about small balls, Subs.
by colonelfatheart
I was merely playing off your metaphor.
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What a great combination indeed. Adios, Flick.
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...is most shameful mother in da world.
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Since we're talking animation, I just wanted to throw out my fave Disney film.
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One of those flicks I remember being so epic and awesome as a kid, only to watch it much later on and realize it's no such thing. Still very cool, though.
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...drawing, reading, studying art-history, lifting, running, and eating rice, oatmeal, fruit, vegetables, and eggs.I think I fancied myself some sort of warrior monk or Faust type character.Sometimes I miss the illusions of youth.
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lots of reading, lots of flirtation with religions, lots of sleeping on floors. I have to admit an austere student's life still holds its appeal over me.
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More epic than it was when I rewatched it last fall. But I had TOTALLY forgotten about the crazy Rube Goldberg trap Rattigan put Basil into. I had completely forgotten it, and when it all played out, this memory was JOLTED out of my head, of the picture book I had as a kid of the movie, and how I stared at those pages featuring the mousetrap, crossbow, axe, anvil, etc etc. I stared at those pages over and over I feel, the way seeing the scene play out made me remember. It was a weird experience.
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Ratigan holds up as a villain for me, prolly because of Vincent Price's voice work. And the way the flashing lightning illuminates his crazed, maniacal face at the end.
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During youth basketball games when sitting on the bench, I used to meditate and think that my Power of Positive Thinking could turn the tide of the game in favor of my team. I still do this. And I still kinda sorta believe it works at times. Now I put hexes and curses on people that piss me off when on the road. Its a much better way for me to handle my road rage, and I actually do believe those people get what's coming to them as soon as they disappear out of my scope.
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http://tinyurl.com/yghvpjw
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and then he figured, "Eh, there aren't any real hot-chicks running around in cat-shaped spandex."
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I seemed to remember scenes that weren't there when I watched it again recently. I do love how at the end, despite fighting it the entire movie, Rattigan gives into his Rat-nature and goes bugnuts crazy on Basil. That maniacal look Ted mentions is great.
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...and a significant chunk of the reading was religion and philosophy. Being comfortable on the floor never stops being useful.
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For years at another message board full of the original AICN message boarders after they left AICN. I talked about how Bruce Wayne was a perfect specimen mentally and physically. Then they all told me I was wrong bc he was such an obsessive and controlling nutzo. Either way, I didn't end up taking martial arts or becoming a great detective. But I did have an awesome six-pack for a long time there, and I'd still like to think I'm a bit smarter than those around me. Which is why I hate losing at Bar Trivia =P.
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...HA! I turned something of a corner one day when a cute girl asked me to a party and I said no because I wanted to finish a book that night and I had an early workout planned for the next day...It took me full hour to realize...WHAT THE FUCK??!! Talk about putting the cart before the horse...I swore to never put books and discipline between me and a pair of breasts ever again.
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"The long story short? My parents taught me if you get f---ed and you don't want to get f---ed, then you start screaming. And that's what happened. I got lied to, I got f---ed over and I started complaining. And the airline was like, 'Well, something did happen — but he is fat and fat people should buy two seats.' And they put the information out there side by side and made it about weight. But it wasn't about weight — it was about a dude who bounced me for no reason, except maybe he didn't like a joke I told him on my way down the Jetway."
"First they were like, 'The pilot told us you have to get off because you're a safety concern.' I was like, 'Are you kidding me? Tell me the pilot's name.' And they lied — they lied again and again ... two days later, they told me, 'The pilot didn't say it, some employee made the call.' And I was like, 'OK, so it had nothing to do [with my weight],' because I could put my armrests down. I literally sat in the seat for five seconds before this chick — who had been all the way up at the desk in the airport — came over. If I just hit my seat and she's saying the pilot wants me off, I was like, 'Where'd you get that message, ma'am?' She's like, 'Well, the pilot told me.' And I can't even see the pilot! I'm sitting in the front row of the bulkhead — if I can't see the pilot, how can he see me?
"She's like, 'Well, we have phones.' And I'm like, 'Well, I know you have phones, ma'am. But I'm telling you — I literally sat and here you are.' She said, 'Can you please just come with me?' The lie compounds; the lie compounds.
"I go outside, I'm like, 'Give me more information,' and she's like, 'The pilot, the pilot.' Two days later, Southwest is going, 'It wasn't the pilot.' But they don't change that on their blog — they don't point out that they've changed the information.
"Everyone's going, 'He's fat' for the next f---ing three days; the top of Google News is everyone in the world telling me I'm fat. Everyone on network [TV] telling me I'm fat; 'Entertainment Tonight' put a f---ing chick in a fat suit and put her on a plane. I'm like, 'What does this have to do [with anything]?'
"Ladies and gentlemen, I don't know how many ways to say this: For 15 years, I've been completely honest with everybody. I believe in honesty. And I've been saying I'm fat for 15 years. This ain't about being fat — they obfuscated the f---ing truth with my fat, which really bums me out. They used my own fat against me. They hid behind my fat. And that's my job — to hide behind my fat.
"The [fat story] is the sexy story that everybody wants to write ... I was so mad at the press because for 15 years I've done nothing but tell you the truth and give you interesting sh-- to write about. And this one time, when you could have come to my aid, all you did was let me dangle and let these f---ers call me fat. Heartbreaking, heartbreaking."
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Running. Lots and lots of running. For me anyway. Maybe it's the way I ran or something. Either way, I stopped running and the six-pack vanished.
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...summers and full time for two years after graduation. We would throw forty five pound hay bales all day, six days a week. My hands looked and smelled like feet.Only time in my life I could run indefinitely...just head out for a run with no clear destination or number of miles to run...
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Bob's Package Liquors. It's right across the street.Bob gets lonesome at times.I'm gonna go say howdy and pick his spirits up. And bring some of them home with me.
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But he's got a movie out and they're not putting the spotlight on him for once, so I guess he had to find a way to get the spotlight on him.
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what do you think of the doc from the thread?it looks like they bad mouth GMD...they just dont know. man.
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Come back soon Subby.
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did he pull a gump?
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I really doubt it was a publicity stunt.
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I haven't checked it out. The only thing I know about the doc is from your description above, when everybody got here. I don't know why they'd go out of their way to badmouth GMD, tho. I suppose to them it has to represent the nadir of Disney's animation so they get their happy ending when Aladdin comes out, or whatever. Whatever.
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...before the incident. It's not really HIS movie.
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Subs, they do have shorts, they're called movie trailers and there's a ton of them before every movie. Plus most theaters have half hour infomercials before the trailers. But, seriously, they tried bringing back shorts in the 90s, playing Looney Tune cartoons and I guess it wasn't successful.
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That will work them out well.
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I'm not saying the whole thing is a sham, but the timing of it is very suspect, to me. I'm saying he's blowing it way out of proportion because he's sore about the promotion of his new movie.
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He's in agreement with the way they're handling it.
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Fire in disguise!
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I'm just going with my gut here. I don't have any facts or evidence or anything to throw at you, and you seem pretty sure of yourself. So you win, I guess.
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Fire in the bowl!
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You gotta give me that.
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The details tell a different story, though.
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they didnt actually come out and blasst it but they did say it was bad times for disney..as they show a clip of GMD...but of the early to mid 80s disney fare..i think GMD as the best...
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well the timing is suspect cause hes flying around alot to do publicity for it?and hes also on tour doing his spoken word shit or whatevs that is...hes in houston in the beginning of march...
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watch the trailer..its just makes me giddy about stories like this..i think its john lasseter..you cant help but grin at him..i betcha he would be a fun boss..
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I think he is totally milking this thing. And he may have even staged it, inspired by the guy who lost his bags and made those YouTube videos.
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http://tinyurl.com/yky7hp6
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The kicked-off-the-plane incident wasn't a pub stunt, but the wringing of hands crying "heartbreaking, heartbreaking" is a stunt with a capital PUB.
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Now you're talking my language!
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Movie trailers are advertisements.
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though i would qualify WHERE THE WILD THINGS ARE as a mini masterpiece...
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But, I'm with you for theaters playing short films instead of the cable tv infomercials they pipe in now.
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Homicide Detectives have been called."Where's Stabler?" asked Benson."Aw, you know Stabler," sneered Finn. "Any excuse to put on a speedo. That white dude is so into hisself!"
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I have support!
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And drag it to the bottom of the pool and rip it to pieces. Then one whale spent some time spitting up fish guts at the local gulls, hoping to lure them closer to the water's edge where it could grab some of them. We can't say they didn't warn us...
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Couldn't they show a clip from 'Rescuers Down Under' instead of GMD. Now THAT'S a piece of shit.
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that this line of work can be ... killer." Cue sunglasses and "YEAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!"
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...brutally so, sometimes. I'll take his word for it.
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awesome
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"it looks like the whale was trying to get to the under...tow"cue sunglasses and YEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!
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But I'm just saying that he'd probably prefer that his movie has a big opening. And anything he can do to call attention to himself (and by extension, his new movie), can only be good for business.
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No way! I loved that flick as a kid! John Candy as Orville's brother Wilbur! That awesome giant Golden Eagle! George C. Scott voicing the villain! Man, I want to see it again talking about it like this...
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almost as much as the Late Night Wars.
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Cue sunglasses and "YEAHHHHH!!!"
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he would have let this story die and settled his dispute with the airline privately. It's embarrassing that you are so morbidly obese that you're kicked off an airplane.
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the trophy ... in the Bag." Cue sunglasses and "YEAAAHHHHHH!!!"
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Aaargh.
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I'm just sore about GMD. I don't think I've even seen Rescuers Down Under, actually.
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He's milking this thing for all it's worth, and I find it rather shameful. I really think it irks him that his name is nowhere to be found in the advertising campaign for the movie. I'll still go see it this weekend, tho.
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I thought this movie was called Walking Sleeping Beauty as in Sleep Walking Beauty.
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It was a slog, to say the least. Three hours in and he's still up on stage sweating profusely (it was hot in there) answering esoteric questions about the Askewniverse, and it didn't look like there was an end in sight. I mean, I have to give him props for his endurance and for indulging his fans so much, but it was only for the truly hardcore. I'm surprised future Mrs. Colon-El and I stuck around that long.
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Who got the rape kit all wet?"Cue sunglasses and YEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH!
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at this point. Looks like a Rush Hour ripoff. Unless you guys tell me otherwise.
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I won't... be able... to take it! YEAAAAAAAAA-AAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm surprised you still have a future Mrs. Colon-El after that.
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He wasn't kicked off the plane because he was fat. He was already seated in ONE seat, with both armrests down. Morbidly obese? I'm just going to assume you're pulling my leg.
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Kevin Smith. I had long quit calling myself a Kevin Smith "fan" at that point, but she liked the "Evening With" DVDs, particularly the anecdotes about his time working on SUPERMAN and his encounters with Prince. That night turned her off big time, though.
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Maybe they run longer in person?
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Those DVDs are heavily edited.
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Those "Evenings" take on more of a creepy fan-boy convention atmosphere. It all depends on the audience.
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I think I'll skip it. It's not like it's really a Kevin Smith movie anyway.
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and he may not be morbidly yet, but he's definitely obese.
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Considering that the "Evening" in question took place in his home base of Red Bank, NJ, just blocks from the Secret Stash, it was thick with that creepy fan-boy convention atmosphere.
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What more is there to the Askewverse other than Jay and Silent Bob and Ben Affleck?
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...but I tend to believe what he says. He's not afraid to admit failures on his part or be honest about something that looks bad for him.
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Feb 24, 2010 3:54:04 PM CST
In a way, it was like a like a nerdy Springsteen concert.
by colonelfatheart
Since he's "home" with his "true fans," the audience expects so, so much more.
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Jay and silent bob
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The "Office" dude? That's gotta be bullsh!
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The question lines seemed to grow as the evening ground along.
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Holy shit.
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So I'ma gonna see it.
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The dude can emote.
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http://tinyurl.com/yzma6n5
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My enthusiasm for the Captain America movie needs a shot of Super Soldier Serum now. The Office guy? Really? He's as inspiring as my swingline stapler.
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An older darker disillusioned Cap.
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http://tinyurl.com/yhbpmv2 He'll use Byrne's Man of Steel series as a baseline.
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Captain America requires the blonde hair, chiseled features, square jawed, jock-next-door, himbo look.That does not describe "Jim" of "Jim-n-Pam."
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back in the day. Way back in the day.
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http://tinyurl.com/yz6tzqb
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Goyer's a dullard. His writing credit on THE DARK KNIGHT is a courtesy credit, I'm certain of it.
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It would be great to see him break that mold.
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nose and eyes.
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Fuck it. Why not?
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not one good choice for Cap on the list. if they go with chace crawford i'll move to canadaCrazy Heart was awesome.Seven Samurai was awesome.So if i trip, fall, and hit my head in the woods will the papers say I died in a grizzly bear attack? It said the broad drowned, not that the whale jumped out of the water and swallowed her whole. did i miss something or is this just sensationalized.
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If Ben Stiller can bulk up why can't Owen.
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Or at least that's what the article says Goyer/Nolan are going for. Luthor and Brainiac. Could be interesting. I'm still iffy on Goyer, though.
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That's my pick, but The Spirit prolly voided his chances of playing ANY comic book character ever again.
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Feb 24, 2010 4:12:01 PM CST
I think people get preoccupied with the look of Superhero actors
by anonymoose
If you want to have a chance at making a good superhero movie, you have to start with a good actor for the lead. John is a great actor. I say cast him.
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was shaking her violently in the water. There's always a bit of sensationalism with these stories, though. Fox News, for instance, was playing up the fact that the trainer was "female" for some reason.
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Because Stiller & Wilson are all set to play Blue Beetle and Booster Gold in the most awesomest movie that'll ever play inside of my head.
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Only 25 years too late, tho.
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he can be all cgi'd mo-cap and then they don't need and actor. Putty from Seinfeld can do the voice.
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Mike Vogel by default, I guess, because he has a dimple in his chin.I predict it now, CAPTAIN AMERICA will have Marvel fans pining for the good old days of the SILVER SURFER movie.
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Not playing Cap.
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Too much coffee, not enough food.
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that wasn't in the article i read. It just said she slipped and drowned.
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Robert Downey, Jr., in an AVENGERS movie.John Krasinski is the only one from that list that would stand half a chance. He's probably in-the-bag.
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Feb 24, 2010 4:20:36 PM CST
Of course, the actor has to be in shape and a certain type, Col.
by anonymoose
I'm saying that, of those choices, John Krasinski is the best actor to go with. There is a preoccupation with the way that a Superhero actor must look, though. Going that way leads to Daredevil, Fantastic Four, etc...
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http://tinyurl.com/yznvzvj The sheriff still categorizes it as a "drowning," but that eyewitness account sounds pretty riveting. And she wouldn't have simply drowned if she had just slipped into the tank since there are other trainers around her.
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Feb 24, 2010 4:22:38 PM CST
Killer whales literally tear a pelican to pieces during show.
by anonymoose
http://tinyurl.com/yjcd9vo
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Still wrong for the part.
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testing
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I'll never stop saying it.
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http://tinyurl.com/yhncdoj
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fan-boy über-fave Christopher Nolan to jump-start their flailing Superman franchise. The result?"Superman, really? There's no way I can make 'im Bond-like, is there? Ah, knackers. Ah well, no need to really get in a big mental ruckus. I'll just do what I did the last time. It seemed to work."Moments later, the phone rings."Hello?""'Ello, David, mate, can you take a look at a couple of those ol' funny books you're always goin' on n' on about and whip me up something Supermannish.""Oh sure I can boss. Already did it fifteen years ago, boss. You sure you don't want something a little more original?""Eh, does he have a car?""He flies, boss?""Oh, well, whatever. Something with a robot, then. You're a mate."
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Or however you say his name. Nothing about Krazinski says "intimidating" to me.
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Or the terrorists win.
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http://tinyurl.com/yf85aas
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"he body of a naked man was found scratched, bruised and draped over Tilikum's back in July 1999. The man, 27-year-old Daniel Dukes, reportedly made his way past security at SeaWorld, remaining in the park after it had closed. Wearing only his underwear, Dukes either jumped, fell or was pulled into the frigid water of Tilikum's huge tank."
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To make sure there's no funny business going on.
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I do give him credit for his subtlety. "Dedicated to a very special person." Shots of footprints.Um, any resemblance to a certain Christy poster is strictly intended.
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I want him to blow me.
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Typing in the dark.
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Nice
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6:51:18
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Maybe that dude was trying to surprise sex the whale's blowhole.
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http://tinyurl.com/yd3duru
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Holloway's character on LOST, compared to Krasinski's on The Office, is closer to Cap, is what I meant, of course.
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than I had thought. Jesus Christ.
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Those animals have been tortured into submission and are more miserable than circus elephants.
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Kills the germs that give you bad breath!
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JEEZUS FUCKING CHRISTO!!!
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PLANET OF THE APES re-boot right there.
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APES reboot. With real apes who've been fed a steady diet of wine and xanax.
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And I don't even want to see what that lady looks like now.
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They'd end up doing it CGI. There goes your verite.But, yeah, it'd be awesome. Have the "documentary" footage narrated by someone revealed only at the end, in full-on Roddy-McDowell-as-Ceasar regalia. There's your twist ending.
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There have been more excellent movie pitches in here today than there will be in Hollywood all this year!
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told from a perspective sympathetic from the apes.
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Are Orcas (Orci?) supposed to revolt? Hunger strike?
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http://tinyurl.com/yf7l6m5
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Movie shorts and serials.Colon-El's PARANORMAL APE-TIVITY.And here I sit, broke and depressed.We should be running Hollywood, boys!
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When she went on Oprah. Uhhhh, trust me, if you think you don't wanna see what she looks like, you DON'T wanna see what she looks like.
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Instead of up into the air, Orca #1 flips wet-suited college intern directly into the jaws of Orca #2.
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Now that'd be worth the price of admission.
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"PARANORMAL APE-TIVITY"! Sixies, give the trophy back to Subs.
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My lunch break's coming up soon.
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Instead of the bean-counters who've driven creativity underground.
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It's pretty gnarled and sad.
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And let's get to marching!
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its this kind of thing that always kept dc second best in my book
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Feb 24, 2010 5:05:53 PM CST
I still respectfully disagree with White Vader on Frankenstein..
by d.vader
As an animated film. Just because you could do it all live-action doesn't mean it still couldn't be wonderful when animated. An animated film shouldn't be predicated on the fact that it can do things live-action can't. At this point, there's isn't much live-action can't do.
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$200 million to make Moby-Dick on an actual whaling vessel out at sea. That's why I'd never be able to run a studio.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Ham
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...first happened...the first responders had to get PTSD counseling...one woman said that in all her years she'd never seen anything like it.I never trust anyone's pet around my kid. "Oh, my dog doesn't bite"Yeah, whatever. Fuck you.
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http://tinyurl.com/y8lc7q2
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had the acid thrown in her face. she has had a ton of plastic surgery though. still tough to look at.
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That poor fucking cop.
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http://tinyurl.com/ydqnjj8My point is, comics are supposed to be fun, and neither company has cornered the market on stupid.
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Feb 24, 2010 5:11:39 PM CST
Chimps are known to become more hostile as they get older.
by anonymoose
Dogs are much safer, depending on the breed and how they're treated. A chihuahua is a safe bet.
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...but I'm sure I'll read the update.
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...they're cute and harmless even when they're angry.
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was great and the songs were top notch.
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to back-track a little.
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those are clear jokes. He-man and Superman..not so much. Maybe is Spidey wa sin G.I. Joe.
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I'll have to backtrack and read through the rest of that convo.
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http://tinyurl.com/yz7e24v
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Those that are hating on PRINCESS AND THE FROG are playing "too cool for school."That movie was easily as good as CORALINE and FANTASTIC MR. FOX, and by saying that, I am not denigrating either of those movies, either.
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Danny Glover plays Ahab chasing after Moby Dick, the White Dragon, in a fantasy version of the classic Melville tale. I'M THERE.
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Wait... Where are we? Oh...
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Feb 24, 2010 5:16:29 PM CST
I'll go further (at the risk of pissing Flick off a bunch),
by subtitles_off
PRINCESS & THE FROG is as good as UP.
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I'm kinda interested. The last dragon movie that I thought had a cool premise (REIGN OF FIRE) disappointed the fuck out of me.
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That was just tense and sad.
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That crap is unbearable.
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I think HBO can pull it off.
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Time to roll out. I'll try to stop by later on.
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I will say that 'Reign of Fire' had its good points. Such as a snarling, animalistic Matthew McConna-Hey. I'm not a big fan of the guy, but he gave 200% in that movie.
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Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. Apes? Apes! Apes! Apes!
http://tinyurl.com/apesapes
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Ok, not great by any means, but at least it's something new. And if the Punisher is going to be a part of the Marvel Universe, he's got to have weird shit happen to him periodically. It's just the Marvel way of things.
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spend so much time in make-up every morning getting all those press-on tattoos.
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if it were a stand-alone-ish, one-off kind of thing. What's the Marvel equivalent of Elseworlds? What If? The art has been great (yes, I've checked out each of the four - so far - issues). But, the idea reeks of dumb-assery. It's the kind of thing, like time-traveling Bruce Wayne, that is just a non-diamond-wearing middle finger to fans of the character.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Punisher_Meets_Archie
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If it were a What If, it would defeat the purpose of it happening. That's the thing of it. What If's have no suspense because you know the writers don't have to put the toys back in the box at the end of the story. You know Frank's gonna get recombobulated at the end of Frankencastle, but the fun is the ride there.
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I'll give you that. But it's not exactly the same thing.
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Feb 24, 2010 5:58:07 PM CST
Dick Grayson in the bat-suit is exactly the same thing.
by subtitles_off
It's pointless.I don't think the writers putting the toys away at the end should be the point of any story. All that requires is inserting a Deux ex Machina. Which, by the way, the writer of the Frankencastle thing has done, from the beginning. A story should stand on its own, start to finish. if you want to write a story about a killer who is killed and pieced back together, write that story. Once you have done that within the continuity of an existing character, that character ceases to be.
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Or the Puerto Rican kid is Blue Beetle.OH FUCK YOU, he is not.
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...I have no idea if P&F is better than UP...I haven't seen it. I'm sure I will at some point, but I'll have to force myself.I enthusiastically support 2-D animation in all it's forms, but I have no urge to ever see Disney's musical, wacky sidekick shtick again. In fact, I feel a strong urge to NEVER see it again.
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I said "as good as." My point, though, was different. Are we really so arrogant that we would deny our children the joy of a LITTLE MERMAID-ish movie, just because we've seen it already, and we're kinda bored?
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Never did.And neither does Batman, so turning him into a logo that any of his sidekicks can brandish is a fucked idea.
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...you have means for eat me.
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...you have means for swallow me whole.
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...they did some spectacular character work with him...his movements...the way the camera tracked him through the forest...so fucking good.Then they just shit all over it with the goofy story and ridiculous sidekicks and abysmally mediocre music.Sure, the early classics had silliness, but it was balanced with true grandeur and terror.And they used to mix things up more...now it's just a stale, mildewy formula.
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If you haven't seen it already. I have a feeling you'll like it ( honestly). I have always had mixed feelings about it because it's a good film, but not one you pull out at parties.
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Thanks for reminding me of how cool Tarzan (the character) was and how well it was portrayed in that movie.
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Feb 24, 2010 6:33:28 PM CST
...but to answer your question, no...I'm not too arrogant...
by flickapoo
...I picked up JUNGLE BOOK 2 and new POOH stuff for my daughter from the library. She was all excited, and I acted as though it was all great...just more of the stuff she loves.Guess what?...she didn't like it. She watched about fifteen minutes of each and asked for the original JUNGLE BOOK and WINNIE THE POOH movie. I was amazed. I know why I like the originals better, but I never expected for her to see the difference. I've been thinking a lot about it ever since...I think it has something to do with the simplicity and strength of the story, the quieter and more picture bookish compositions, and the less active perspective and editing...For the record, I believe those two were both straight to DVD titles, so they don't reflect on something like THE PRINCESS AND THE FROG. I'll be expecting much more from a proper movie.
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...and a Tarzan story had so much potential. I'm convinced someone set out to make a great movie with that one...but someone more powerful insisted on running it through the musical formula grinder. Then it wasn't bad enough yet, so they cast Rosie O'Donnell to finish the job.
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From the years when Disney was thinking it had to do cheap hand-drawn animation and focus on developing CG to compete with Pixar. It was crass commercialism. PRINCESS & THE FROG is not.You know that Disney's next hand-drawn thing is a WINNIE THE POOH re-boot?TARZAN was fricking gorgeous. Superior to THE JUNGLE BOOK, in my humble own.
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TARZAN is inferior to JUNGLE BOOK in terms of character and music.I was talking about the quality of animation and the artistic representation of the jungle.Just so no one thinks I'm a doddering idiot.
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no more idiotic than Nathan Lane's meerkat.
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...I always liked 'The Road to El Dorado'. It had a slightly more mature tone to it.
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Only aware of it as the project that forced Disney to dump Sting and go in a different direction with EMPEROR'S NEW GROOVE, a hilarious animated movie that is considered something of a failure for Disney (though not enough of a failure that they didn't make a TV series out of it).
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...has its own unique charms. The character animation second to none. I haven't studied up on it, so I'm not sure why it's so rough and sketchy compared to most of the others...I love that though. It's like it never went through the cleanup process...you can see little flickering stray marks dancing around the characters, it's amazing. And I have yet to see a badly drawn frame. With a lot of the newer stuff (even the stuff I like) you will often see second rate moments, as though certain scenes were handed off to second string animators.
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...although, oddly, I never felt a need to see it again. Not sure why.
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...but once again they crammed in all the formula elements.Offensive.
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'Why do we even have that lever?"-Eartha Kitt It's worth re-watching for Patrick Warburton's henchman character alone.
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Or The Lion King, for that matter. True story.
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...is a KIMBA ripoff?I forget if they ever acknowledged the debt or not.
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...I remember really liking the way the figures were stylized too.
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Quote me
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I don't really blame ya. I worked at a theater when it came out so I saw it way to much. I always like cheech and whoopi in it.
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In a Disney film
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" In the search for a likable, all-American hero that can fill the red, white, and blue costume of Captain America and stand toe-to-toe alongside Iron Man, one potential candidate that hasn't been mentioned is The Office star John Krasinski. Heat Vision just released a short list of candidates for the role that includes Chace Crawford, John Krasinski, Scott Porter, Mike Vogel and Michael Cassidy. They claim most of these guys are screen testing for the role this week. However, Cinematical received word yesterday through an anonymous tipster that Krasinski is all but a sure thing for the role of Marvel's star-spangled Avenger in Joe Johnston's upcoming film The First Avenger: Captain America. Surprised?
It's exactly the kind of off-the-beaten-path casting that reaped huge rewards for Marvel when they put Robert Downey Jr. in the Iron Man armor. Krasinski is charismatic and funny, he's the right age for the part, and he's filled with the sort of wide-eyed youthfulness that plays up Captain America's steadfast WWII-era optimism. Whoever they choose needs to be someone that can realistically muster an equal amount of screen presence as Downey Jr (for that eventual Avengers team flick), and I think Krasinski is better suited to this task than some of the recently rumored names (like Robert Buckley). Some weight training and the right script, and he just might be a perfect, albeit completely unexpected, fit for the part.
If true, it's an inspired choice. I've been around long enough to remember people crying foul over the casting of Michael Keaton as Batman or some unknown named Hugh Jackman getting the role of Wolverine right at the last minute. Remember the fan outcry when they announced pretty-boy Heath Ledger as the Joker? That turned out pretty well, didn't it? I have no doubt that Krasinski would do his best to bring the Marvel character to life, if the rumor holds true.
Do note that as of now this is still a rumor, and negotiations are a tricky animal. Until officially confirmed, file this under a big fat maybe. "
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...the style a lot, and I don't remember the story and music trying quite so hard to be a Broadway show...
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Sharp rocks at the bottom? bring it on.
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That's just a writer trying to persuade you to buy his or her thesis.
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And while I haven't seen all of Hercules, I will go ahead and confirm: James Woods fucking owned that movie. Side note: I've been watching 'The Stand' with commentary_on, and Mick Garris & Stephen King were trying to get James Woods, among others, to play Randall Flagg.
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Feb 24, 2010 7:45:13 PM CST
Subs, many people didn't like the casting choice at the time.
by anonymoose
I remember it, too. From arguing with friends to arguing on the internet about it. For some reason, they couldn't see it.
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We both know that getting RDJ for the first Iron Man was a Herculean effort for Favs. Being that his career was in the doldrums at the time, RDJ WAS off the beaten path.
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http://tinyurl.com/yjaldxd
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That's weird.
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Ben Kingsley's wife is pretty smokin'.
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Surely that is sarcasm, right?
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CHAPLIN, WONDER BOYS, KISS KISS BANG BANG, THE SHAGGY DOG, ZODIACJohn Kasinski would give his left nut to have a "doldrummy" career like that.
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But RDJ wasn't the star attraction he is now....he really never was even when they were trying...yeah he's made some excellent roles but nothing equating to the box office.
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I'm gonna have a smoke and think about...box office vs. repetoire vs. accolades vs. personal history.
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It was barely even released in theaters, Subby. Chaplin was 20 years ago. Zodiac was ignored by most, as was Wonder Boys. The Shaggy Dog? Really?
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You guys keep lobbing your apples at me when I was talking oranges.Robert Downey, Jr., had more Box Office pull than Michael Keaton ever did, less than Ben Affleck. What exactly is the point again? Oh, yeah, that's right, convincing casting.If Joe Johnston had been involved with casting Benicio Del Toro as Lon Chaney, Jr., I wouldn't be having this discussion with you. I'd just concede.Look, it doesn't matter much to me who gets cast as Captain America. They'll cast who they cast. And it'll be up to them to make it work. Or it won't. It's a crap shoot.Burton lucked out with Keaton. Schumacher flopped with Clooney. Singer flopped - hard - with Routh. Favreau chose well with RDJ. It's all moot.
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See node 42324.
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It is all-kinds of inappropriate to have an accused pedophile's 30 year-old vanity project as an attraction at Disneyland.
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He's that guy on that show that everybody watches every week. That's why he'll get the job over say, Paul Walker (aka That guy in those car movies). I will agree that we're talking about apples and oranges, tho. I'm talking about exposure to actor, not caliber of actor. And exposure is key in the eyes of the bean counters.
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...or is it the SLEEPINGBack? But it's been kinda grumpy so far.I blame the weather.
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...I thought ENCHANTED was delightful in the way it poked fun at it all...(Mc.Dreamy notwithstanding)
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My favorite of the dwarfs.Sure, Dopey is all-kinds of cute, and Doc's the smart one. But Grumpy's the one you'd want on your side when a wicked Queen was on your ass.
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Fucking hilarious.
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...a chimpanzee lacks powerful killing canines, so an attacking chimp will go for the vulnerable bits of face, fingers, and genitals...not necessarily in that order.The more you know! [rainbow star].
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...while you scream.
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...ever comes within thirty open feet of me I will run as far away as fast as I can. But then I'll probably do something stupid like climbing a tree to evade it.
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Cute, maybe. But it's still a fucking animal. A fucking bear, no less.
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It might be fun to fight a monkey. But only if I had the proper weapon, like a machete or a baseball bat. Or a chainsaw. I bet the sound alone would drive it away. Or drive it further into a killing frenzy.
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Anyone got any ideas on how to sneak a chainsaw into a zoo?
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Feb 24, 2010 9:16:09 PM CST
...yeah, I'd move back...and then look around for a tool...
by flickapoo
...sure, a chimp might use a stick to get ants out of a rotten log...and I'm not very mechanical...but an ant-stick is no match for my tire-iron of death.
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Weird Science.
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who crawled into the lion's den at the Taipei zoo to convert the animals to Christianity?
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Feb 24, 2010 9:22:35 PM CST
I tried to find the video, but all I could find was this...
by subtitles_off
http://tinyurl.com/y8fmjjp
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...of bull-goose loonies. If you're selling Evangelical Christianity in a Catholic country, then by default you're attracting the disaffected, marginalized, and insane.There were some pretty cool rebel types, but more than a few WHAT ABOUT BOBs.Baby steps to convert the lions...baby steps to convert the lions...
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The only good thing about that shit is the fact the lines will be shorter for Space Mountain as all the parents drag their bewildered kids in to see it.
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Matter of fact, I thought the trailer to Tarzan was the most epic looking trailer they'd ever made. I was so damned pumped for that one.
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A) The regular movie-going public didn't know who Nathan Lane was when The Lion King was released like they knew who Rosie was when Tarzan came out. B) Timon and Pumba were rebels/outcasts and his attitude fit the nature of the story with regards to helping Simba. C) Rosie's character's attitudes weren't needed, didn't really fit in organically, and stuck out like a sore thumb. And was she a he or a she in the film? I'm not saying she's the worst thing about the film, but I do see a big difference between her and Timon.
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I'm catching up, so I'm sure someone already mentioned it, but that "rough look" (which I always enjoyed too) was very indicative of that sorta Silver Age Disney style, also found in The Aristocats and Robin Hood.
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But are more like giant raccoons.
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Feb 24, 2010 10:00:06 PM CST
...movies like TARZAN are why I'm still pissed at Disney...
by flickapoo
...they clearly had the talent...the way Tarzan moved was both exhilaratingly new, and classically crafted. They were just so obsessed with money, market-think and toy/Broadway tie-ins that they shit it all way.So disappointing.
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Now they're saying that genetically, pandas ARE bears. Bah. Curse me for having this great memory for things I learned as a kid that later changed when I was an adult. And Pluto IS a planet, in case you didn't know!
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Feb 24, 2010 10:11:27 PM CST
Flicka, did you just call Catholics marginalized and insane?
by d.vader
Or everyone who's not Catholic in a Catholic country marginalized and insane? *rubs his St Christopher pendant while awaiting an answer...* Just kidding. Sorta not really =P.
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He was the supervising animator for Tarzan's character and Disney's most prolific recent animator (I think he also was in charge of Ariel), the most famous after the 9 Old Men. Glen knows his stuff. It was his idea, I believe, to give Tarzan Popeye like muscular forearms instead of big biceps, bc it made the most sense to him if he was gonna be swinging around like Spider-Man and gripping lots of vines and branches and holding on for dear life. Its just a shame the story wasn't as epic as something like The Lion King (despite the controversy), which I think rests at the top of the "Epic Scale" for Disney movies.
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...no, I'm saying that Catholicism has a long and rich history, and Italy is a Catholic country. If you're crazy enough to try selling Evangelical Bible thumper style Christianity in Italy (like my parents), then what you're going to get are misfits who don't fit in for one reason or another.Otherwise, why would they abandon their rich local tradition and join something that by Italian standards is essentially a cult?
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They look like bears, dang it! They've got bear snouts, not rat snouts!
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...I'm sure I've heard of him before. I haven't really kept up since the old days...and I'm not good with names and details..I can never even remember the names of all the Nine Old Men...
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That is bizarre. That's truly bizarre. My family background is Catholic and Italian. Well, Sicilian really, on my grandmother's side (the side we claim more often), Scots-Irish on my grandfather's. Anyway, that idea of Evangelical's in Italy just stumps me. That's like trying to be a Christian missionary in Iran, but worse, bc the Italians are just gonna say "Yeah we agree with you, but honestly, our version's been doing it for hundreds of years before yours." I never agreed with Missionary work, honestly. Even as a young kid.
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...animation through MERMAID, BEAST, TARZAN...are there more? I remember there being one kick ass guy who did all the best of early new Disney.
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which cartoon character they're watching. Both Timon and Terk (?) were fun sidekicks there to pout jealously when their pals picked the girl over them. I really don't see much difference between them. Aside from them being different species, that is. They basically serve a reduced "Baloo" role in each story.
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...Christianity predates Islam in Iraq?But in Italy you just say..."um, yeah...we mostly agree with you, and we have world class art and architecture. Fuck off please."
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When the trailers for Monster House came out, they advertised it as "A Gil Kenan" film. I assumed, since they were calling out the director's name and it was an animated feature, that the director must be well known and important, and I assumed my memory was incorrect and that good old Glean Keane was really Gil Kenan and he finally moved up and out of Disney and was given the chance to direct his own film! Well, I of course I was wrong.
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...he made Cheeses cry for the one and only time in his life don't forget.
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Nobody.
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What's shakin'?
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He was the supervising animator/designer of Jafar, Scar, Gaston, King Triton, and is currently the expert on Mickey Mouse animation. Those are the only two lead animators I ever knew during the Disney (2nd) Renaissance.
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You just HAD to bring up Baloo...*sniff*
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...bedtime is shakin'...pretty soon.
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When he fought Shere *sniff* Khan? "Bare Necessities" is still one of my favorite Disney songs ever. Same goes for the King Louie song "Someone Like You". I love when Baloo busts in and starts scatting back and forth with Louie.
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Baloo is a completely different character and serves a totally different purpose than Timon or Terk. And Timon and Terk can't be lumped together in my opinion. Timon and Pumbaa taught Simba that it was okay to shirk responsibility (he was King after all) and to enjoy life for what it was. Terk was there to.. to what? What effect exactly did he/she have on Tarzan, storywise?
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Saw it in the theatre with my two older cousins..when I thought Baloo had died for a few minutes, I cryed and they laughed at me and made fun of me and have never let me forget it to this day...Our conversations always end with one of them sayin', "Whadda youknow, you cried in the Jungle Book..."I hate those guys...
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I'm pretty sure I got teary-eyed for a bit there too when Baloo is lying there, motionless in the rain. Sniff.
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Feb 24, 2010 10:53:40 PM CST
...I can't get enough of Bare Necessities or Someone Like...
by flickapoo
...You, and my 2.5 year old watches JUNGLE BOOK a LOT.Really Subs, you should be ashamed bringing Rosie O'Donnell's monkey and Baloo into the same conversation.
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The "why try so hard when you can coast" mentality. But similar ethos do not equal similar importance regarding impact on story and character.
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...to beat the shit out of those cousins of yours...I'm on a plane man.Time and place buddy.
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...Bagheera kill all those fucking monkeys......but I love old King Louie.
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Feb 24, 2010 11:03:12 PM CST
Thanks, Flick, really, but I would rather see...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
invest that money in a freezer or new videos or a trust fund for Toddlerpoo...Truth is...I could take em both today...probably at the same time...One weights like 400 lbs and his older bro is thin and gangly like his old man...Don't worry though, I got shit on them too...When I feel like ending a conversation with the oldest I just say, "Really, and which one of us was it that picked up a transvestite, supposedly 'BY ACCIDENT', in '82..." He shuts up pretty quick...
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http://tinyurl.com/yftudrq What an old fogey who can't seem to compare the magic between the new and old.
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...although Baloo did look pretty hot in the coconut bra and grass skirt...
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Apparently, he won the majority of the votes! ITS NOT A TRAP!!! http://notatrap.org/ I'd vote for him. And I'd LOVE to see him out on the football field running around.
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S/He was Ichebod Crane looking ugly...
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Feb 24, 2010 11:20:48 PM CST
HHHAAA!!! That would rock to see Akbar on the sides...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
of their helments...
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http://tinyurl.com/ygd3ls3
"The Bible says that marriage is between a man and a woman," Ms Ashley told Fox News.
"In Leviticus it says: 'If man lies with mankind as he would lie with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death and their blood shall be upon them.'
"The Bible is pretty black and white.
"I feel like God himself created mankind and he loves everyone, and he has the best for everyone.
"If he says that having sex with someone of your same gender is going to bring death upon you, that's a pretty stern warning, and he knows more than we do about life." -
...I've got your abomination right here, baby.
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EXCEPT if you're gay! Duh! What? Double-standards? Hypocrisy? What's that mean?
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Feb 24, 2010 11:36:03 PM CST
'God' breeds us like cattle to sell to aliens...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
which explains the millions of vanished people the world over, both reported and unreported...and what really happens to all non-recovered bodies from plane and boat accidents.A good breeder discourages homosexual activity, since it is simply not profitable to let them live...Just sayin'...
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...people, including hot young things who fool around outside of marriage.Quoting Leviticus is asinine, even for a ConservoThumper.
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So I'd do her in the rear too. Prejean was much prettier.
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Feb 24, 2010 11:40:14 PM CST
Go and look ate the next Commandments following the BIG TEN...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
If i remember correctly, it goes right into how to treat your slaves, like God was cool with that...as long as you treated them right...
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...of the day.Watch out for bad guys.
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That was a Fox News link, right? Trying to create another martyr I suppose.
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ESPECIALLY when she's giving it up outside of marriage. Come on, you know she does it. Everyone does it. She does it. Everyone likes to do it. I like to do it. I just did it. And Im ready to do it again!
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Leviticus 19:19, Deuteronomy 22:11
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This is all Egyptian Babylonian Law, preceding and the basis for Hammurabi, which we claim as the foundation of law and lawyering...Which eventually culminated today in popular culture with Alley McBeal and Denny Crane...
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“If a man has sex with an animal, he must be put to death, and the animal must be killed."
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Leviticus 20:16 (the next fucking line)
“If a woman presents herself to a male animal to have intercourse with it, she and the animal must both be put to death. You must kill both, for they are guilty of a capital offense."
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That shit is FUCKED UP...But when you go to church, no preacher EVER uses those verses as the basis of his Sermon...
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I want to go to churches and point out all of these things and tell the worshipers to stop hating themselves and being afraid of being eternally punished. Enjoy the life the true deity whatever form it might take never heard of this God Guy…I mean, at least ancient cultures had the decency to come up with good original names for their gods, instead of just using the generic old ‘God‘…I want to point to Genesis and the tower of Bable where ‘God’ is actually afraid of what mankind could be capable of becoming…remember at that point, one of ‘God’s’ first creations had already rebelled against him…“Who’s all Omnipotent, now, ‘God‘?”
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But, that might backfire on me with those people..
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to adress a room full of Southern Baptists...including my Uncle, who is a Pastor and I was his Music Director at 18, and my best friend from high school, who is also a Pastor who's Father was also MY Pastor in high School...He should be there too...I would start by asking, "How many people here believe that Jesus was the Son of God?"Loud applause."How many people here believe that a son is the true reflection of the Father?"Even louder applause. God, bullied and pressured his ONLY SON into covering up his SECOND lifeform malfunction by INHABITING one of our frail bodies, and drawing the 'Karma Black Queen' and dying in a most gruesome fashion."Not as much applause, but some...they thought...Then I would say..."Let's look at God, the Father's public record...what did he stand for? What did he endorse? Why would he kill you...and why?""Let us open our Bibles..."
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I stand by that ...
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So...you want to get to know God, do you? Everybody who recruited you and told you were a sinner and don't worry because it wasn’t really your fault, on account of Adam was horny and his handmade 'partner' had tricked him into pissing off 'God', BUT you STILL need to BEG for forgiveness in order to obtain the Kingdom®? Remember those guys?They all told you that their God was a loving, forgiving God. No sin was too much for God’s capacity to forgive…Well, if you don’t count Blasphemy…which, seriously, what does Blasphemy REALLY mean?Let’s look at who ‘God’ REALLY is…What IS he all about…?
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John 1:01...That should be your first clue...But in Genesis 1:01, God creates the Heavens and the Earth. Genesis 1:03...God spoke light into existence...and, as of the time of this post, He still hasn't taken a stand on the particle/wave question...
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That is why he gives us so much of it.
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"The Nephilim were in the Earth in those days...and afterward...when the Sons of God saw that the Daughters of man were fair and took wives of them as they chose."This is important...God has more than ONE SON!!!!
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It's like being Bart Simpson's ant farm...
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But I for one think they should bring back chapter serials as a tool to convince people to go to the theatre more. If Sopranos or Dextet can convince someone to get cable instead of waiting for DVD, mayberry serials could convince people to go to the theatre every week or two to see the next chapter and catch the movie with it instead of waiting for video.
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CamTech 3-D episode maybe once a month...Collective Communal Television at the I-max? Why not? Beats Church...
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Jimmy Johnson, former head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, and current NFL Football talking head is pimping Extenz, the magic penis enhancement pill...I just saw it with my own eyes...and, now I can never UN-SEE it!!!
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at least two husbands literally had their heads up their asses in glorious CGI HD...Have no idea what the commercial was for...but, it was on Comedy Central at 2 A.M. in the morning...
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I'm advocating SHAZAM: The Adventures of the Captain Marvel, The Green Hornet, The Shadow and Flash Gordon as 12 ten minute chapters spread over the 12 weeks of summer. Maybe in 3-D.
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once a week...over 12 weeks?Then you would have to necessarily bundle® fifteen of them together to justify the time and expense of going to the theatre. Not all of us can just walk to the neighborhood Cineplex for a 15 minute flick once a week...
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Feb 25, 2010 3:08:53 AM CST
I say 15 minutes to watch a 10 minute serial episode...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
is also counting the previews...
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seek appropriate shelter..
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I've had enough blasphemin' for one night.Nytol...
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is the wife of the Dup leader iris robinson. what an ugly hatefilled, demented bitch.
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Feb 25, 2010 6:23:42 AM CST
should a person be jailed for public masturbation ?
by dioxholsterreturns
silly question, but i ask it for a reason. in my college a worker got caught jerking off to porn in the library, so he got fired. but my friends think he didnt do much wrong while i said the he got off easy (no pun intended) and that he shouldve gone to jail. saying that made me look insane or something. i dont know why
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While I do enjoy their films...in the end I guess I don't really give a fuck what happens to Disney. Just another creepy controlling coporation that makes billions.
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Feb 25, 2010 8:00:10 AM CST
SCOTT PILGRIM continues to get early raves at screenings.
by colonelfatheart
I guess I'm going to have to see this fucking movie now?
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i will not stand for TARZAN bashing...not here of all places...the animation and score were excellent..phil was shooting for oscar gold..and i STILL sing YOULL BE IN MY HEART to my son when i get to rock him to sleep...(i also throw in some AGAINST ALL ODDS and ABACAB)...yeah there are negatives about the film...the comic relief doesnt come off as well as previous efforts but the villian is pretty nifty..and that last fight with him his pretty cool...it took me a few viewings to notice the shadow of his hund corpse..cheetah fight rules too...
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Feb 25, 2010 8:06:53 AM CST
Sixies, "Land of Confusion" is another good lullabye.
by colonelfatheart
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spitting image ruled.
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Feb 25, 2010 8:33:25 AM CST
...good for you Sixies. I stand by my deep disappointment...
by flickapoo
...with TARZAN, but when your kid loves something it's a powerful persuader. I respect that.
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...and the video had puppets!
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no I love TARZAN...my son hasnt seen it yet..what didnt you like about it? the storys not subpar in my book..though the elements are pretty cookie cutter...its basically the origin of tarzan..what else did you want? besides less comic relief? ill grant you that.
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...I don't know, I say the animal executed for being raped by a human is getting what it deserves.If it didn't look so hot or behave so flirtatiously the whole situation could have been avoided in the first place. The animal was asking for it.The fair thing would be to require all mammals to wear burkas. We can't be expected to control ourselves with them trotting around with their glistening haunches all exposed...
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See y'all in a bit, gosh willing.
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...and I don't want to be a crank about it. Mostly I was and am sick of the Disney musical formula. And I hate the predictable sidekick humor...the whole thing just feels false to me at this point.A movie like TARZAN could have had plenty of humor and kid appeal with youngster ape physical humor...the strutting and sassy cool kid apes were completely out of place...I'm having a hard time finding words to voice my displeasure.The look of TARZAN was spectacular...if they had half the balls Pixar has the entire first half of the movie would have been silent with some rudimentary ape language conversation (like in the book). It would have been mysterious, and haunting, and funny, and beautiful...TARZAN had so much going for it, I think it was a terrible opportunity lost.
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Feb 25, 2010 9:06:11 AM CST
...I would kill to see all the 2-D powers of traditional...
by flickapoo
...Disney applied to a story with half the balls of WALL-E. The courage to have an unconventional hero if necessary, an unconventional structure if necessary, a theme beyond BE YOURSELF AND EXPRESS YOURSELF! The courage to not sing fucking pop songs in the middle of the movie...
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...hand-drawn 2-D Disney applied to a story like THE INCREDIBLES.But no, we don't get to have that. Because Disney made every decision in the boardroom...every decision calculated to bring in maximum synergistic multi-platform merchandising capabilities...with an Oscar winning middle-aged pop ballad thrown in for good measure.I'm bitter because I'm disappointed. I hate Disney the way Lucifer and Cain hate God.
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Disney is to be hated for what it COULD do. And, also, for the sidekick-voiced-by-a-comedian formula. HEY DISNEY, JUST BECAUSE ROBIN WILLIAMS DID IT GREAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S TO BE DONE EVERY FUCKING TIME. E. FUCKING. NOUGH.
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Now I'm riding a bus targeted by snowball-throwing hooligans. Life is so, like, poetic and stuff.
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...some days you're the bus.
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February 24th, 2010... @ Node 44024...In the latest chapter of Cheeses' Pedaltrek: TNG, he gives EffDub another alias...Flick gets caught cheating on The Pedalback with another thread. He's lucky we're secure in our relationship, or he'd've found all his clothes thrown out into the snow...We BAMF! sooner than we ought to, according to a few...Vic Twenty spreads the word about the short list of TV actors screen-testing to be Captain America... @ Node 44050...Sixies says it at 11:18:49 A.M....Discussing what we'd like to see in a new age of hand-drawn animation, including new subjects and new styles...Also jonesing for the comeback of movie shorts and serials for the cinema pre-show in the place of adverts and military recruitment...Flick considers hiring a fancy replacement for the humble dash. In this economy, too! Where's the dash gonna find work?...Two Tom McHales had a rough time...Matt Damon and Jake Gallapagos both turned down the "Sully" role in [deleted]...China, china, china, china, china, china, china. (http://tinyurl.com/chinachina) ...Teddy makes a hooker joke, and Sixies doesn't get it, thinking he typoed...Good riddance to HUMMERs...BBQ at the trailer park - ribs and guns. (http://tinyurl.com/y9znfvc) ...Vades agrees, the music in Disney's HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME is "epic"...A child-rearing problem too big for Supernanny. (http://tinyurl.com/2c4r69) ...GREAT MOUSE DETECTIVE love and a link. (http://tinyurl.com/yghvpjw) ...In his youth, Flick was training to become Batman, up until he realized it interfered with dating chicks...Vades and Teddy brag about their younger abs...Kevin Smith continues to bray about Southwest Airlines...A killer whale at Sea World is the prime suspect in the murder investigation of this week's Sea.S.I.: Underwater. Cue sunglasses. YEEEEAAAAAAAHHH!!!! (http://tinyurl.com/yznvzvj) ...John Krasinski, "Jim" from "The Office," is a Captain America front-runner, and 'moose believes he can pull it off. He doesn't have the look I think of, and, not counting Heath Ledger, the look has always been key to the successful - and some of the unsuccessful - castings in these superhero things before...David Goyer will crib from John Bryne's MAN OF STEEL, insert some other character names, and come up with a sub-plot for the cape for his story for Christopher Nolan's Superman re-boot...A (fan-made?) trailer for Kubrick's THE SHINING is simple and kinda cool. (http://tinyurl.com/yz6tzqb) ...Those serial-killer whales practiced on pelicans while the orchestral happy music swells. (http://tinyurl.com/yjcd9vo) ...An update on the killer chimp (http://tinyurl.com/yf85aas) and its victim...Superman vs. He-man is pretty stupid (http://tinyurl.com/yd3duru), but so is "Frankencastle." The point is, comics are supposed to be a little stupid, I think, but not as stupid as Time-Traveling Bruce Wayne...Colon-El suggest a cinema-verite PLANET OF THE APES reboot - a sort of PARANORMAL APE-TIVITY...Apes, apes, apes, apes, apes, apes, apes, apes, apes. (http://tinyurl.com/apesapes) ...'moose is excited for Captain EO's return to Disneyland (http://tinyurl.com/yjaldxd) ...Flick is sick of the whacky sidekick schtick that "ruined" Disney's TARZAN...After all the "Animals Attack" talk, Teddy's going to take some tools along next time he goes to the zoo. For self-defense...Turns out pandas are bears and not raccoons after all...Vades props Glen Keane and Andreas Deja as the two great character design / animators of Disney's 90s "New Golden Age"...Well, I'll tell ya, Vades and Flick. Rosie O'Donnell's gorilla plays the exact same role in TARZAN as Nathan Lane's meerkat. Both teach the young hero the "ropes" of the jungle. Both are comic-relief sidekicks. Both have musical numbers. Both think the hero has betrayed them and pout about it only to prove their loyalty in the end and reconcile. Sure, they're both minor compared to Baloo, in stature and in importance to their particular stories, but they both share Baloo's arc and are of the same template...Cheeses re-tells the story of his first reaction to the "dead" Baloo scene in JUNGLE BOOK and the teasing he took from his prick cousins...Admiral Ackbar wins the most votes as Ole Miss' new sports mascot. Ole Miss can't afford Lucas' fees...Another blond, Republican, beauty queen opens her pie-hole (http://tinyurl.com/ygd3ls3), and The Peebers quote Leviticus... -
The depth of the jungle. The computer-aided perspective of Tarzan's jungle surfing. The cheetah fight. Lance Henrickson's silver-back. The baboons. The climax - dark and exciting. No fake deaths, but plenty of the real deal.Weaknesses. Music. And Jane's cornball father.That's pretty much slanted in favor of the good.
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how is tarzan a musical?yes there are songs in the film..and one shitty percussion interlude..but not once does it feel like a musical to me...where the songs are sung by the characters to express their emotions..or are you saying they shoulda just played it straight with no songs at all...
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...I mean, it's your Subbary® and all, but that's abuse of bower and conflict of interest...or something.
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theres no way that older disney coulda done that deep deep perspective of the jungle and the surfing that tarzan does...and i like how they flip those baboons on the head...a few films earlier, a baboon named rafiki was soooooo cute and now a horde of them is trying to wrestle..
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next week on 24!
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without music. That's as much a part of their legacy as anything else.Also, Flick, don't forget PIXAR is still relatively young. The first dozen or so Disney classics compare favorably, in content, influence and freshness to PIXAR's output so-far. We're not going to be around in 70 years to compare how PIXAR ended up in comparative measurement.
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i drink gelfling essence...therefore im immortal.
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Unfortunately, I wasn't on it, but I was on a another job a few days later when some people who worked on the Extenz job. They said it was just TERRIBLE. Apparently the CEO of the company writes all the ads, and has always written the ads. I guess he doesn't hire out ad agencies to do it and saves money. But that means the ads end up being pretty bad. Just look at the previous ad with the couple talking about how Extenz has helped them (and notice they're the same "random couple on the street" that the camera stopped to chat with during the very first Extenz ads). Notice just how many GD times the two of them say the word "fun". "We were looking to have more fun." "We thought, hey, this could be fun!" "If you want to have more fun...." Anyway, I wish I was actually on the crew for that ad so I could give you guys more tidbits on it, other than it was one stupid affair apparently.
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a much better movie, had they incorporated some of the suggestions Flick makes and punted Phil Collins out on his arse. Just like [deleted] would've been a good time at the theater if it hadn't been so stupid. It's really not fair to hold what isn't against what is, but I do it all the time, myself. Example: THE DARK KNIGHT and The Nolanverse as compared to the Batman movie saga in my mind.
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...so what if they serve a similar purpose? Baloo is a great character. Terk is a shit character. Baloo fit the overall theme and intent of the movie. Terk is painfully shoehorned into the movie for cynical kiddie appeal.Finally, let's imagine a universe in which Terk is half as good as Baloo...Baloo WAS FORTY FUCKING YEARS AGO. EVEN IF TERK WAS AS GREAT AS BALOO IT WOULDN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. THE FORMULA IS TIRED. SHOW AN OUNCE OF CREATIVE SPARK, DARING, SOMETHING. ENOUGH, DISNEY. GIVE IT A FUCKING REST.
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...Pedalbackers.
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I do recognize a formula story-telling that runs through almost all of PIXAR's feature work. It's the ages-old hero's quest - the journey of a character or characters across an environment as they collect their life lessons. That's the crux of TOY STORY, BUG'S TALE, MONSTERS INC., FINDING NEMO, WALL-E and UP. brad Bird is the only one who has broken the mold with THE INCREDIBLES.I'm not denigrating any of those films, either. I think they're all superior childrens' entertainment. I only think one or two of them represent any kind of Second Coming, though.
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great as Baloo. I said Terk follows the Baloo template. So does Thomas J. O'Malley. So does Timon and the gargoyles in THE HUNCHBACK. So does Dora the fish, for that matter.
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With Phil Collins singing mumbo jumbo as we see a fiery shipwreck off the coast of some jungled land, a leopard stalking the parents, gorillas, yadda yadda. It was pretty awesome at the time. I might have to dig around YouTube and watch it again.
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What kind of crap was that? And they're making a sequel.
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...and I'm lukewarm about computer animation. I can take or leave all Pixar until INCREDIBLES. Of course every story is a hero's quest...eighty percent of all stories are a hero's quest of one sort or another. But compare that to the Disney formula of pop songs in anachronistic settings, a scrappy hero, a princess, no less than three wacky sidekicks with at least one sidekick voiced by a prominent comedian.
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Feb 25, 2010 10:44:22 AM CST
...this isn't about Pixar vs. Disney. I'm just comparing...
by flickapoo
...the best Disney has to offer to some of the other best mainstream animation out there right now.
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While you're at it, sweetheart, tell him a princess story with funny animal sidekicks and make him smile again. Seems like he's lost his warm fuzzies. maybe he left them in an egg in a duck in a well in a church on an island in a lake on top of a mountain far away.
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Everything about it looks pretty damn epic and in line with how Tarzan should be! No comic relief sidekicks or anything, just balls-to-the-wall pulp action. And some of that stark imagery in the beginning is pretty great too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwU5ZqyhV5Q (I thought I remembered the fiery wreckage in the trailer but I couldn't find one that had it)
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either of us is truly advocating, Flick.Have you seen SITA SINGS THE BLUES or WALTZ WITH BASHIR, yet?
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of is the film's opening.
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...with that list of sidekicks.And after CARS, FINDING NEMO is my least favorite Pixar...but at least Dora was relatively low key. I'm particularly sick of that manic LIKEMELIKEMELIKEME!!! Disney sidekick shtick.
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The restored, re-colored version of a German silent picture that may be the first animated feature ever made. It is entirely silhouettes of articulated paper cut-outs against a flat background. Anybody else see that?
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There is a formula, and it is tiresome to adults. But, as I pointed out yesterday, Disney movies aren't made for those of us who have grown tired of them through the repetition. They're made for each group of 4-7 year-olds going to the movies for the first time at any given time.That goofy sidekick is an essential part of the life lesson that these things teach. Friendship.
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...I could do without Phil Collins singing, but I can live with it.The animators were all over that movie. The Disney suits fucked it up.
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I think its pretty great actually and fits it well. But damn. The possibilities there that the trailer promises... too bad. Toooooo bad. That's some fantastic work in that trailer.
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Feb 25, 2010 11:00:46 AM CST
...they just have to do it better. They could do all the...
by flickapoo
...things you're talking about and still be creative again. To be clear, I blame the suits, or the merchandising department, or the shareholders...whoever lobotomized Disney.Walt would never have let this shit slide.
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The suits tell the storytellers to change things FOR the merchandising department. "We need something cuddly, like a goofy elephant or something. Snarling leopards aren't going to sell Happy Meals, now are they!"
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That's the real deal.
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...never even heard of it Subs. Thanks.
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The man knew his audience.
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The teaser for 2012 used the same music and basic imagery from it. You know, the teaser with the wave coming over the mountain with the monks watching.
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Feb 25, 2010 11:11:39 AM CST
...it's funny that I only get hot under the collar about kid...
by flickapoo
...stuff. You guys get in knife fights over Cinema, and I say "meh, it's only a movie"...but watch out if the conversation turns to wacky sidekicks...
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I could've done without the credit scroll, then. Should've just had "THE SHINING, a film by Stanley Kubrick, starring jack Nicholson" appear on-screen in that brief moment of total black when the blood covers the camera lens. That would've made it Greatest Trailer Ever.And, I'll take this opportunity to share a quibble I've always had with that scene from the movie. I wish the blood had begun to leak from the elevator doors instead of out of its side, and, as they inched open, the blood gushed.
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It's taken, I think, from "1001 Arabian Nights." Anyone interested in animation's history, I think, would be interested in it.
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were leveled at Walt when JUNGLE BOOK was first reviewed. To critics at the time, it represented a huge step backward for animation because of its slapstick, its comic sidekicks and its flat backgrounds.Now, it's revered.
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Jack Nicholson, Shelley Duvall, Stephen King. All big names (at the time, in Shelley's case). Trailers are all about the sale, and Kubrick nailed it with that one. I would have been guaranteed to buy a ticket after seeing the trailer as you suggested it, but for others the weirdness plus Nicholson and King probably sealed the deal.
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when you're doing it while watching Stargate: Uranus.
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THE SHINING flopped. Somebody check my memory on this. The studio was expecting CARRIE, and they got an art picture.
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for THE SHINING where it makes it looks like a james L. brooks feel good hit.
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That's funnier.
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Feb 25, 2010 11:24:33 AM CST
I'm going to go with Diox on the public masturbation thing.
by subtitles_off
Never. Nowhere. Not at any time.Did anybody watch TOSH.0 this week? He had security camera footage of a guy taking a dump in a planter at a mall.
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Feb 25, 2010 11:24:52 AM CST
...yeah, Subs, I thought of that. I considered addressing...
by flickapoo
...it in my arguments, but it would have diluted my rants.I believe that a sound argument could be made for why it isn't guilty of the same sins...the proof being it's continued appeal, but won't attempt it now.My main argument would be that essentially the entire movie is comedy...and all the humor and characters are central to the themes...with the exception of the Beatlesque vultures. The wacky sidekicks and contemporary jokes had no thematic place in a movie like TARZAN, MULAN, or HUNCHBACK.
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According to Wiki, it started out sluggish, then Kubrick trimmed it, and it picked up some steam. Back in the day when movies were allowed to find audiences.
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Is all about setup in my opinion. Its just to help build up to that momentous ejaculation at the end.
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I saw Tosh.o, Subs...I thought the Prank of the Week was hysterical. The one where the guy who is terrified of being buried alive is unconscious and they put a box over him before they wake him up...HA!!!
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I'd contend, was much more open to the kind of animated story for children that you think TARZAN, MULAN and HUNCHBACK failed to be. But they got a rather flat comedy with sensational music and a nod to contemporary social events that turned into the template of everything that has come after it.Flash forward forty years, and films like MULAN, HUNCHBACK and TARZAN show Disney trying to break from that mold while also stringing along an audience that has shown them they want the wack.There are much better films to be made from the DNA in those movies, yes, but we live in compromised times.
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And brought about the internet meme of recutting trailers to look opposite of the finished film: JAWS as Free Willy, The Ten Commandments as a high school comedy, etc. It was pretty brilliant.
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McCain just had the floor and used his time to fart out a bitter screed dripping with resentment and talking points. Obama's response: "John, the election is over."
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Poor deluded quadruped.
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...compromise in German Expressionist Cinema, I don't accept it in animated children's movies. At least not from Disney I don't. A company with every possible resource at its fingertips.
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He had to bite his tongue before he added, "Now, go fuck yourself."
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McCain was accusing the Dems, and Obama, of using reform as a campaign issue instead of actually talking about the substance of the thing, which most of the other GOPers, to their credit, despite their weak ideas, have more or less tried to do. So Obama said, and you can tell McCain was flustered by this, "John, we're not campaigning anymore. The election's over."
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As Twilight is to Horror films.
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...I have to point out that JUNGLE BOOK is a minor Disney effort. It's charming, but can't be compared to something like SNOW WHITE or FANTASIA. I really don't have it up on some sort of pedestal.We've been sitting here comparing major contemporary efforts with a mere trifle from the past. That speaks volumes right there.
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is political, so McCain saying that is probably MORE political than the whole thing.
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Hope it's as good as Obama's smackdown of the GOP.
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as [deleted] is to my boner.
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And I turn into a cartoon dust cloud of fists clenching bloody knives.
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each successive TV spot for ALICE IN WONDERLAND makes it look more and more attractive to me.Anybody want to schedule it as the next "Some Guy & Some Other Guy"?
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And the Democrats are in on it this time, too. Obama is really owning this, though. This is where he's at his strongest, in a forum, and he's turning every GOP argument back at them.
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OK..I know that I'm speaking to a young and mostly tough audience here, but as an "older" woman, I see no problem with my grandkids seeing the "old" Disney style.
It is true that animation has and should continue to evolve. But why toss everything out just because and younger, cruder and edgier population want "thin" eyes and more violence? Sheesh. You have enough of that already. -
He took a bigger room-mate to the floor and started wailing on him.
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"Baby with the bathwater" sort of argument. But, yes, Disney, as a corporate business, has tightened the clamp on creativity. They own Henson. They own PIXAR. They own Marvel Comics. They own the US rights to Studio Ghibli. They'll own Dreamworks soon.I think the desire being expressed here is for a more varied output. Incorporating new visual styles.I'm with you, though. I don't want to see feature animation turned into the crude sort of stuff you see on TV as animation for adults.
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I've been waiting a long time to see both of these, guys.Excuse me for a couple of hours.
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Alice? I really have no desire to see it butwill take my son though
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Enjoy!
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It's fascinating. I can't remember a President, in my entire lifetime, willing to put it all out there in a public forum like this. it's historic.I should be watching it, but, I'm ashamed to say, it makes me more than a little anxious (plus, I really have waited a long, long time to watch MOON...grin).Any of the people who have been clamoring for political leadership...here you have it. Lettuce see how we, as a nation, respond.
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...to seeing it (if it gets decent word of mouth). I don't care much for the ALICE story, so it isn't a sacred cow. What I like best about ALICE is all the experimental film and animation it has inspired over the years...
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For my gf's birthday. I'd do the This Guy and Other Guy thing.
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Feb 25, 2010 12:08:42 PM CST
...it makes me anxious too...I'll wait for the Good Parts...
by flickapoo
...version. Colonel, do you think it makes a difference one way or the other? For a brief moment politics seemed like a worthwhile game...but I'm sinking back into cynicism. Not with Obama personally, but with the system as a whole.
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I'm sure they'll be doing another special.
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will just whittle it down to a few soundbites, a few "heated exchanges" and "rhetoric" before ultimately dismissing it as just another example of how the two parties can't play nice. You're a good citizen, Subs. I'm sure you'll read deeply about it later. It's the other 299,999,990 people (present Pedalback company excluded, of course) that need to be watching this and thinking about it for themselves.
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Like HOOK?
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And it's easy to catch. Some days I just want to give up and not give a shit anymore. But then I remember that cynicism and indifference are also what put Richard Nixon, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney into office.
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for Cap'N Americrunch. Seriously. this is the most absurd miscasting in the history of film. And the people comparing krasinski to RDJ are complete and utter morons.
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Alice doesn't remember Wonderland so it can rehash everything from the original. Hook didn't necessarily rehash any of the original story like it seems this new Alice is, with a few new things.
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But are all channels showing it? And damnit, they don't designate what hours its on, meaning I'll either record a shitload of nothing or miss it completely.
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...How America Can Rise Again. I don't know, man. The whole first half is about calming down, because we've been here before...and the second part is about the fact that our political system is completely frozen, calcified, and not capable of rising to a real challenge.Not encouraging.
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your best bets for recording are probably MSNBC, CNN, Fox and Fox Biz.
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Sometimes the animals ARE asking for it...http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100225/od_nm/us_beauty_festival
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Feb 25, 2010 12:25:12 PM CST
Unfortunately, all those channels list their regular programs...
by d.vader
Throughout the day. There's no 4 hour block devoted to the summit. Its all "America LIVE!" and "Rick's List!" and blah de blah. Makes DVRing the thing difficult.
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But you can't give up.
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...get a burka on those camels!Ever see a camel's tongue? Irresistible I tell you.
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It didn't look anything like the Summit. CSPAN 2 was showing British stuff and a Pentagon announcement. Bleh. Either way, I'll end up missing a chunk of it.
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this explains it best, I feel...http://www.rense.com/general89/545.htm
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...he appears sober at the moment.
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They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses. Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees..." I don't think we should vote them ALL out of office, however. I think there are some genuinely good people in Congress, and I'm not sure replacing them all with other opportunistic power-seekers necessarily solves everything. We need BETTER candidates and a more engaged populace.
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Feb 25, 2010 12:45:31 PM CST
The accountability part of that article, that's what
by colonelfatheart
I like. That accountability extends to the voters as well as the elected officials.
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When WE let it slide, it's really our own faults...
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Is a bit ridiculous and unfair.
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You have to expect things to go wrong from time to time; you can't expect EVERYTHING to go right. You just have to hope we learn from the mistake and fix it.
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..how long do we have to sit here?"
"Also Mr. President...The Foot Fist Way was hilarious." -
http://tinyurl.com/ykaj7wk
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I missed the "moron" remark. Where was that?
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#comment_3170880
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Feb 25, 2010 1:25:24 PM CST
...indirectly he did. I think he probably didn't realize...
by flickapoo
...that 'moose was in the line of fire.I blame the fog of war.
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...it's just casting for a superhero movie. Arguing for this or that pick for a role is not indicative of one's whole being. When you start throwing around insults, especially to fellow PBers, we've got a problem.
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Feb 25, 2010 1:31:52 PM CST
D. Vader, you are correct, there are no perfect people...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
That is why we should, and probably will, be governed by robots one day...
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How can we mediate this? 'moose, I believe you just stated your reason for grievance. What could Stabby do to atone?
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...the way it sounded.
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Did I just see sparks shoot out of Obama's eyes???
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What happened, Cheeses?
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Feb 25, 2010 1:37:55 PM CST
I don't know, Colonel...I don't have it on either...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
I'm just high and typing crazy shit over here trying not to offend anybody..
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I was not referring to you but to the person who wrote the article you were quoting. Hopefully, you didn't write the article. Did you say that Krasinski is an actor on par with RDJ?
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this country's been scheduled for demolition for at least a century...They're just running a little behind schedule..
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GOOD SHIT.
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I think he's got what it takes to go toe to toe with the best of them, including RDJ. He hasn't been given a chance to break his through his type-cast much, but I think he could do it with this role.
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"We have 2 hours and 15 minutes to discuss this." Then they all need to make some kind of opening statement and give their "record". Biden is now going over what they all "agree on". Who gives a FUCK what you agree on. Cut to the chase. We know who you are. Just talk about the problems.
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Puff, puff pass...that's the rules...
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It's like an Entmoot.
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...a ballet dancer could bulk up and play a spandex hero.Makes perfect sense to me.
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I was watching zombies in the Norwegian, snow-covered outback. What did I miss?Stabby didn't call anyone present a moron, but he got caught painting with a wide brush. His point is that he disagrees with those who compare John Krasinski with RD,Jr. Stand DEƒUCK® down.We each get our turn whackin' the pinata, just as we each, in turn, get to be the pinata.
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...Entmoot. But with crooked white guys instead of trees...so twice as tedious.
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Free vasectomies and tube ties all around. Mandatory drug tests for unemployment, and social service benefits. Legalize and tax weed to fund this shit. LEGALIZE IT!!!!!
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if someone would just invent a THC patch...I hate getting high in the car, them bying the ticket then getting the munchies (which are VERY expensive there and then watching a 1/2 hour of previews...my buzz is always gone by the time the credits roll...Main reason I wait for shit to come out on DVD so I can be properly stoned in my own home with my own food and beer ...course then I get high and forget to watch the movie...happens more times than you would think...
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Since I was already "deluded" by that point.
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being a brilliant actor, but that's ok. However, he does not have the body of work or the track record of Robert Downey Jr. to even be mentioned in the same sentence, let alone compared to. And I am no die-hard RDJ fan. Krasinski has yet to prove himself. And I think he would be completely miscast as Cap'n AmeriCrunch. Who I also have no undying love for.
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...but I'd just grow it in my backyard given the chance.Backyard pot growers don't have powerful lobbyists on the hill.
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That may be over-selling it. I don't see evidence of his brilliance, anywhere, just yet, though I like him on TV as part of an ensemble that, pretty often, fires on all cylinders.But, and here's the big "BUT," 'moose, you cannot ask me to look at a comic book featuring Captain America and think John Krasinski fits that image.You just can't.
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I thought it was a decent film but didn't add anything really new to the genre. I liked the Evil Dead nods and it was pretty good gore.
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in PJ's LOTR looked a lot like John Kerry.
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and, even though it is still in the early stages, it seems to be working quite nicely for them...
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Buddy, I'm with you, there. You're not deluded. You're just defending your opinion. I'm certain Stabby regrets using the word "deluded," but I'll let him speak for himself.
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stoners are lazy too. I for one would pay a little extra to pick it up ready to go at the dispensary.
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...are you guys really passionate about CAPTAIN AMERICA? I know jack about him...and it sounds like a parody character name.
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But, I myself am secure in my own delusions, and no amount of name calling will ever take them from me.
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Not really. I am a fan of The Office, though.
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and also there is such a thing as "stoner responsibility". If they were to legalize and tax weed I would have to make it my personal mission to pay that little extra to make sure that it was profitable and worth every penny to the gov. to keep it going.
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Interested? Of course, but to a point. Joe Johnston's involvement and that list of prospective Caps have sapped my interest a bit, though.
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I think he's one of those old staples that people still like because they think they have to. I read a shit ton of comics...none of them have Captain America in the title.
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But some of the proposals before California's Congress advocates a flat $50 per ounce tax at retail...That's just fucking greedy...
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I said it was "absurd miscasting". And I stand by my statement regarding those who would compare Krasinski to RDJ, among whom I do not count 'moose. And I'm sure if 'moose thinks about it, he knows that to be true. Who knows, maybe the future will prove that to be true, but in the meantime krasinski has some catching up to do (77 films and 2 Oscar noms).
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http://tinyurl.com/ydydva8
Lube curling is the main event today. -
...for regular people', said Conservabeard; 'that mostly concern the working poor, and self-employed. That is the business of Democrats: Democrats are always troubled about the future. I do not like worrying about the future. I am not altogether on anybody's side, because nobody is altogether on my side, if you understand me: nobody cares for my stock portfolio as I care for it, not even my lawyer nowadays.' "
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Keeping The Hulk/Ironman around that long? Or do they feel that they are replaceable? Because I feel if anything Captain is the easiest one to replace if they had to. Tony Stark not so much, same with Banner.
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if they use my Will Smith treatment..
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Død Snø2009Norwegian. Subtitled.Directed by Tommy WirkolaTalk about your tired formulas! I was extremely disappointed when I realized, within the first few minutes of this, it was going to be another "teens stranded in the wilderness," jump-scare, gore fest, complete with European pop metal music. But, it won me over, relatively easily, with its amped-up, go-for-it style, some thrilling sequences and a little clever humor. It's a blood-drenched, cheap - definitely cheap as in unsubtle, not inexpensive - and fun foreign homage to the Sam Raimi of EVIL DEAD. Nazis make great zombies. And blood and entrails splatter picturesquely against snow.★★★☆☆Streaming on Netflix.
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He hasn't done anywhere near enough drugs or prison time...YET!!!
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...my grandparents came over from Norway, so I have vested interest in Norwegian zombies.
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I quote, "Poor deluded quadruped."
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I've thought about it, I don't think I'm wrong. Of course, I'm not saying they have the same body of work. I'm saying that I think John is talented enough to get there someday. He has to be given a chance first, though.
Let's put it in the past. Fuggeddaboudit. Look, I'm breaking the tension with weird Japanese porn. -
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0885090/
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throw his shield at the Hulk and Hulk would bat it away like one of those toy frisbees you used to get out of a cereal box.
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DRAG ME TO HELL last night. I regret not seeing it in a full theater. The gags just didn't have the punch at home. Overall, it was very meh, except for the suspenseful scenes. It made me wish Raimi had directed THE WOLFMAN (sans silliness, of course).
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No way. I'm not passionate about any Marvel character, but that one, in particular, is a one-noter, in my opinion. And, I'm not that interested who they cast, either.I'm sorry I brought it up, actually.
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I'd like to see a an Inglourious Basterds with zombies in it.
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...full frontal girl on girl chin sucking in a mainstream flick?Nowhere, that's where.
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Feb 25, 2010 2:20:48 PM CST
Col., the gags didn't have any punch in the theater, either.
by subtitles_off
DM2H was rubbish, though I may be a moron, since I know several who disagree with me.
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...although I'd rather see some other worthy black actor get a shot.
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It was ghoulish fun.
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Come here and let me rub your antlers a little bit. Doesn't that feel nice?
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...and I had good sex after.I have no complaints.
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Seemed fitting. Though I wish I saw it in a better theater with better sound.
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Feb 25, 2010 2:24:32 PM CST
BTW, all of you need to check out that Winter Olympics link.
by anonymoose
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The Bible says you'll both have to die.
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...that was bullshit coming from Sam Karo Syrup® Raimi.
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A 1/4 is $100 and an 1/8 is $50...When you look at it that way, it's not so bad...I'm used to my dealer 'taxing' me anyway, and that's unregulated...
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I doubt it was done on purpose, but it made it feel more like Evil Dead, in that low budget way.
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You would also have to point out how flawed the country is at this point as well but I think there is a great opportunity to mend some fences with this movie if it was handled right. I have to agree about the cast list. Not very exciting. I liked the action in Wolfman so I think Joe could do a good job.As far as the Avengers go they could just leave Stark in the suit and keep Banner as the Hulk who isn't a complete idiot. Both characters are CG. Vision is CG and then you only need Cap, Pym Scarlet Witch and maybe Hawkeye as real.
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But, one final point. I don't think that Krasinski has the range as an actor to ever be on par with RDJ. I see him as a Cloontang type of actor who always plays himself as opposed to a chameleon-like character actor. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Work and all.
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If Democrats had any balls they'd pounce on that and sell it like "death-panels." That should be sound-bitten and aired on every news program for the next week and a half. Which jackass said that?
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I always assumed that my dealer was fucking me way harder than the gov would. Mass produced it wouldn't cost more than an apple and then they could over charge me 300% and I would barely notice.
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But just to stoke the fires: Earlier this week I caught the Anna Faris stoner comedy 'Smiley Face'. Krasinski was in it and his character seemed to be a complete one-eighty from his tv character. Very stiff and awkward, but still quite humorous. So the guy does have some range. I just wish they'd make an official announcement, so we'd know if this arguement is even valid.
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...for your amusement.Telling about senators that it fooled you for a second...
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about the future. I am not altogether on anybody's side, because nobody is altogether on my side, if you understand me: nobody cares for my stock portfolio as I care for it, not even my lawyer nowadays."FUCKING CUNT! It's your job to "worry about the future."I want that fucker's name!
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Flick caught me with a Treebeard parody. I was bleeding out of my eye sockets there for a minute.
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it might relieve some of that stress...
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...that was an exact Treebeard quote...all I did was swap out some nouns.
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Keep the flamethrower close.
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Did you see who the much-ballyhooed White Lantern is gonna be? I shouldn't have been surprised, knowing Johns like I do, but he got me again. Guy's a good damn writer.
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...nothing but daring, a Treebeard quote, and my own sharp wits.I should retire right now. Just walk away like Shoeless Joe Jackson.
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Feb 25, 2010 2:46:04 PM CST
We have a lot of potheads on the pedalback, don't we?
by cheeses_of_nazareth
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he was goin' off about...But, you gotta admit his indignation was righteous...
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*COUGH*
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Can I have a spoiler, please?
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indeed.
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to get me to type "FUCKING CUNT."Ask anybody.
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...don't you DARE.
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Megatron!!!!!!!!! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Megatron!!!!!!!!! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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White...Lantern...a...bad...guy?
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"You're not my dad!" "Oooooohhhhhhh!"
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http://tinyurl.com/ykglhek
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Does anyone remember the element of surprise anymore?
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That's how you mend fences?!!?You're on your own.
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IT IS COMING!!!!!!!!!
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Not another iteration of Stargate.Please, please, please.
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UNTIL STARGATE REVOLUTION GETS MADE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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MY PLIGHT IS JUST!!!!!! MAKE STARGATE REVOLUTION AND EXTINCTION!!!
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...will be bent over my knee and taste the back of my sinewy right hand.Captain America sounds like something Glenn Beck would dress up as for sex night role play.There will be no blood or tears shed over Captain America please.
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'moose knows I love him.
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...and I'd fail if I tried. It's unstoppable...especially when moose are involved.
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BEST THING TO EXIST EVER SINCE EXISTANCE ITSELF!!!!
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Hustler's Stargate spoof.
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when it gets released!!!!!!
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He's being portrayed in the film by Mark Strong.
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What do you think of your boy from SG:Atlantis being cast as Conan?
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Hahaha!
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Capt. A.A. to our Google group. I think he should exist in the Batmansterverse even though he's Marvelous.
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Is in a morally gray area. Great idea!!
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'moose hasn't seen it yet. I'm getting outta here before he does. Later!
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the creators knew they will never get another Arnie so they searched for someone new, and after they watched 100s of Stargate episodes they said, man this guy is good, we should get him.
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Don't have TOO much fun out there.
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hes a huge SG-1 fan
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Feb 25, 2010 4:03:55 PM CST
Obama said once he never misses a Stargate episode
by dioxholsterreturns
he says its the best thing on TV and totally worth his time
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http://tinyurl.com/yhxzrmx
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I watched three really good tv shows in a row the other night on SciFi...first was an episode of Stargate where McGyver got cloned and the didn't age right so he was like 15 with his old memories...in the end the kid version goes back to school to fuck with everybody and get laid a lot...the second was an episode of Stargate Atlantis where they find an origial who turned out to be the leader lady who had gone back in time and saved them all and put herself in suspended animation for 10,000 years..And finally an episode of ST:TNG I have never seen...everyone had amnesia, even Data and nobody knew was in charge. Of course Worf just took charge until they could access ships logs...Were those good representations of the two Stargate shows, Diox?
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YOU GAVE DOCTOR WHO A CHANCE AND THAT SHIT IS SILLY AS FUCK ( I LIKE IT) STARGATE HOWEVER IS MILITARY SCI FI IN A STAR TREK UNIVERSE!! ADD TO THAT: ITS CONTEMPORARY!!!! HOW CRAZY IS THAT!
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...the E STREET BAND, with some sort of doohickey on his forehead?
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Captain Subs told the sultry bartender, “I AM on my way to the Ambassor’s reception party. Alcohol IS a time honored prerequisite to fluid human interaction, regardless of specific species…”Bi-Polar Waitress smiled at the Captain, “Good, because I don’t exactly know how to make coffee…Good coffee, anyway…”“I’ll have a Guinness,” Subs decided. “Coors Lite close enough?” She asked, her eyes twinkling in the starlight that zipped by the aft view screen on the far wall.Captain Subtitles bit down HARD on his tongue. Several times, in fact. He had to remain diplomatic and it was intended to induce enough pain and confusion in his taste bud region for him to be able to endure drinking weak, tepid, domestic (Ferrengi) “lite” beer…“That would be lovely…”he mumbled. “Tell me about the Nazarenes…”“The people of Nazareth? They‘re just as bad as the Ass Pirates, if not worse…Only they’re avowed heterosexuals and they still have no respect for women. At least with the homosexuals, you could sort of understand.”“I do not understand any of it, Waitress. Sounds like intolerance to me…and, the ONE thing the Pedalback Federation will not tolerate is intolerance.”Despite it’s awful taste, Captain Subs was surprised at how quickly the lite beer was going to his head. “Would you care to accompany me to the reception?” He blurted out, not sure exactly why.“I would love to Captain,” She smiled at him. “Just give me a moment to change.” She turned and moved toward the back of the bar. Suddenly remembering her name, Subs called out…“Just don’t change completely, okay?”
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LIFE IS NOTHING WITHOUT STARGATE.... HOW DID YOU GUYS LIVE THE PAST DECADE?
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with hookers and weed...I think I win that contest...
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Second Half: Drunk out of my mind.
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You're on thin ice, Stabby.
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I can't wait to get home and be warm.
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Feb 25, 2010 5:07:35 PM CST
Water-shit Anderson and Teddy arrived at the holodeck...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
only to find that their suite was still in use…Teddy hit the button on the console and shouted, “Hey ass-wipe, your times up. We have a reservation.”When no one responded, Teddy started banging on the door portal with his palms. “C’mon, motherfucker, zip it up and re-schedule…”“He will not be able to hear you …Let it be…”“Let it BE? Are you serious Waterman? I’M GONNA KICK THE EVERLOVING SHIT OUT OF WHOEVER EVENTUALLY WALKS OUT THAT DOOR!!!”As if on cue, the holodeck door opened to reveal a disturbed looking and looming Lt. Stabby and an unconscious Lt. Calls being dragged by the arm…in the background the still running program looked like a room full of giant scorpion telemarketers in a hot box call center.Teddy jumped away from the massive Security officer…“Is there a problem?” asked Stabby. Teddy was speechless but Water-shit managed to reply , “We can work it out.” “Sorry, Stabby, I didn’t know,” Teddy finally regained his voice. “…I ..I told the captain we should have just stabbed that thing like you suggested.”“Ensign,” Stabby glowered at the young man… “Never apologize!!! Only Stab More!!!”Water-shit and Teddy watched Stabby drag the knocked out body of the crazy guy down the hallway, then shrugged and entered the Deck…
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Yo dudes! How goes it?
Cheeses, I am really enjoying STAR TREKKING across the universe with your story... have I missed any or was there a lay off?
Diox, let's try to post for 24hrs without mentioning STARGATE eh? Just one day. Baby steps. You might be the coolest dude in the world - we simply don't know cos all you talk about is STARGATE and no one else has seen it or is remotely interested. So pls refrain and rediscover. The true you. That is the way of the dojo. -
No new story yesterday...I got sidetracked being the Anti-Evangelist last night...It was fun...
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One of my favorite Marvel hero (the others being Thing and Spider-Man), but I have absolutely no interest in a Captain America movie. I doubt what makes him good in his comic - almost 70 years of history and his historical significance to the Marvel U. And I really say some things are better in one medium than another. Cap is completely super-hero, not detective (like Batman), sci-fi (which Superman and others can be in) or magic (Dr. Strange).
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...over in the NOESBack that he's 31 years of age. A guy who comports himself like that is older than I am. The internet is a fucked up place.
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I doubt Diox will listen to you.
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Like of old guys lie about their age. If anything, Bet you he is 51 and still bitter about his divorce.
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I spent most of my time the last decade...
by Cheeses_of_Nazareth Feb 25th, 2010
04:30:12 PM
with hookers and weed...
Cheeses, were you joking about the hookers? Im not condemning, im not condoning, im simply curious cos it's something i've never done before. So, are 'pros' better at it than regular female-kind? -
is Alan Moore's Comedian...
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An interesting video I first saw at the HD expo. It does a great job of showing how extensive the use of green screens are in TV shows nowadays.
http://tinyurl.com/y9g4273
Also, almost all of those backdrops were shot with the Cannon 5D.
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I think you have a good point there.
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The Creepy Thin Man is pretty much an asshole who gets banned once a month. He's had more comebacks than Sinatra.
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when I saw that much of ZODIAC was greenscreened, I was absolutely floored.
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I can understand you liking Comedian, but I never like the concept that whomever serves the United States government and military must be a fascist and a "tool." Sorry, but I just don't see it that way. Especially since Cap in the comic has always been shown willing to refuse orders from his government when he thinks they are immoral or wrong.
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Mostly joke, but I DID live for 13 years in Las Vegas and my wife and I were some-time swingers we had sex with a lot of strippers and probably a hooker or two. I never noticed any difference related to job capacity...If you're paying by the hour for sex, most men don't give a hooker any challenge to perform...
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Hanging with you guys has me actually taking other internet people at face value. I'm gonna have to watch that.
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I have a friend shooting a short - almost all of it is green screened. He is going to all these hard to get to locations and just shooting the backdrops on a Cannon.
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That was awesome.
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Feb 25, 2010 5:24:14 PM CST
Dan Slott has me actually enjoying U.S.Agent in Mighty Avengers.
by tedkordlives
"He...He...He ALPHA FLIGHTED them!!!"
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It's exciting to think about making a movie that way.
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I expect to be waiting a lot longer for the bus with this shitty weather up here. I'll try to stop in later. If not, good night.
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But comic books are fucking REAL.
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That sounded condescending which wasn't my intention.
I meant to say I can understand why you like the Comedian and I think he was an interesting concept at the time, and very original and necessary, but I just hate since then EVERY guy who is connected to the government and the Army must be evil, a fascist or just blindly follows orders.
The guy who just died in that attack on the IRS served two tours in Vietnam and served in the army for 20 years. I don't think he was just a blind tool of the man.
And no, I know that wasn't your intent Cheeses, I am just using your post as a chance for me to rant about something that annoys you. So none of this is directed at you at all. -
He was Gung Ho with all that "Surrender? Do you think the A on my helment stands for FRANCE???" HHHHAAAA!!!! And he whipped Giantman's ASS!!! I liked him coming to grips with the fact that everyone he knew were old or dead, and then finding out your girl had married your best friend...
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maybe a little bit tho
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I mean "annoys ME".
Fuck. No wonder I get on so many people's bad sides on the internet. I don't know how to communicate at all. -
Watch out for THE STUFF!
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Fuck. None of us have powers. Were just cannon fodder. When we die we stay dead.
But fucking guys in costumes die they come back to life.
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Feb 25, 2010 5:32:30 PM CST
"I am just using your post as a chance for me..."
by cheeses_of_nazareth
"to rant about something that annoys you. So none of this is directed at you at all."Which is it, 'Lop? You tryin' to start a fight?
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Feb 25, 2010 5:33:53 PM CST
I saw that, but I knew it was a mistake, because of the context.
by anonymoose
See? You're not a bad communicator. You're prone to typos, like everyone else.
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Cheeses, haha, swinging is a different thing entirely to paying for it... more of a lifestyle choice i'd say.
Conti, that greenscreen video is an eye opener but seems strange because surely they need to acquire the digital assets to fill in the blanks - and for many of those 'street scene' shots wouldn't it be just as easy to send a unit out on location?
I mean I can see the appeal when they're composing a shot on top of a mountain but when it simply requires a few parked cars in the background it seems like overkill. -
I'm just suffering from the inability to type a sentence today without it sounding like I am. Texted this girl today and she thought I was sounding "bitchy."
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Conti, anyway returning to our earlier conversation did the HD Expo tempt you to invest in a new TV?
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You can shoot the filler material to fill in the blanks with just a Cannon 5D, a cheaper camera that looks like a consumer level camera. So NO PERMITS. And no crew. So very cheap and decent quality.
Secondly to shoot on location is very expensive and very hard. You have less control over light, weather and/or noise and amount of access or equipment. So if you are WB, Universal, or Sony it is so much easier to shoot on your backlots or a stage and add the bg stuff later. I mean it is hard to do some dolly moves on location, so right there you have an advantage by using green screen. -
And how much are they going to cost?
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Lot of misunderstandings on board today...virtual tension is mysterious and volitile...
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I have a bizarre opinion about TVs. I think my TV is good enough for me for now.
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The odds of a peeber stumbling upon some magic doo-dad or getting doused with power-inducing nuclear sludge or otherwise being imbued with powers would be pretty dang good, I think.
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Preferably a Vivid movie. If that was the case, I would try my hardest to get a job as a Pizza Delivery Man or a Plumber.
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Feb 25, 2010 5:47:45 PM CST
Also, will Avatar be digitally/CGI adapted to the new format?
by anonymoose
And how will scenes be shot "tastefully" when viewers can look at it from any angle?
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Ted, I once owned a magical Chess set that turned me into 'THE PAWN'.
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I imagine a bunch or people just hanging around Nuclear Power Plants just hoping for an origin.
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2009Directed by Zowie BowieIn the unspecified future, an engineer is reaching the end of a three-year stint on the moon, managing a corporate mining operation, providing the Earth with a vital energy source. At the limits of his capacity to deal with the seclusion, he begins to experience some unsettling moments, but the twists and turns are only beginning as he finds evidence that maybe he's not as alone as he believed. The art direction hearkens back to "2001." There's even a monotone-voiced computer around to handle some of the chores. Despite suffering an iota from that bit of tonal imitation, this is smart, smart, smart science-fiction in the classic mold, brimming with original ideas. Best science-fiction of the year - as opposed to the duller, easier, flashier, sci-fi fantasy that ruled the Box Office in 2009.★★★★☆
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Now I have to watch this.
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Conti, yeah, they'd have to beef up security at the power plants for sure. It'd be a boom time for proprietors of antique shops as well.
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I have MOON on blu ray just havent got round to watching it yet.
Subs are you saying this low-budget indie attempt is better than DISTRICT 9, TERMI 4, STAR TREK 12 and AVATAR 1?!?
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Throw in TRANSFORMERS while you're at it.
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...but I thought you hadn't seen New Trek, Subs.
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I'm in favor of it only if we change the name to Captain Alcoholic America and cast it with Cheeses. So, Stabby, remove the moose antlers, please, and replace them with one of those foam-rubber cheese slices that get worn in Green Bay.
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Rockwell was the shits, was he not?
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I'd probably put District 9 over Moon as a whole, but D9 is a movie that is aimed directly up my alley. Uh, so to speak.
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that hardly matters.MOON is a one-man show without whiz-bang effects that is about themes of identity, longing, loneliness, and the practical, ethical aspects of a certain sort of speculative technology. It is about man's intercourse (not that kind, Cheeses) with the unknown, realized in a dramatic and poetic way, and it doesn't need CGI creatures or juvenile fantasy violence. That's the kind of science-fiction that thrills and rewards me.
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but, thanks for asking anyway...
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Feb 25, 2010 6:17:04 PM CST
Life is a rock..(but the radio rolled me...) by Reunion...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
I want to see a rapper today redo that one...maby with group names from the 90's?
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I feel the need to see more movies starring COSTNER.
If MOON starred Kevin Costner then i'd have already watched it.
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...back at the shelter?I was enjoying that.
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that was Kirk Cameron's best buddy in high school?
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Another film that I've had on Blu for weeks but haven't stuck in the player yet is CITY OF GOD.
It has subtitles but sadly it does *not* have Costner. -
"My mailbox is empty."
Turn to Costner. He will fill it for you. -
both have Costner...I rest my case...
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also have Costner...My case is now in a coma it is so rested...
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...it came out.I have a strong feeling it's one of those movies that will not be followed by sex. I have a hard time deliberately setting up a situation that will result in no sex.
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is a decent movie.
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The greatest piece of bullshit ever. And by that I mean the facts are all bullshit, but the movie is great.
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DANCES WITH WOLVES is an AWESOME movie - especially in it's Directors Cut incarnation (almost an hour longer).
Flicka, I will watch CITY OF GOD with the Mrs and report back on the ease and intensity of the sex afterwards. However I too think it's a hard sell. If it featured Costner then no problem... but Brazilian slum gangsters might not reach the parts. If it all goes pear-shaped then halfway through I'll switch the movie to NO WAY OUT and Costner her right there and then on the sofa. -
...with Cowboys & Indians.See what I did there?
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Ferngully, indeed...
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TIN CUP, Costner as golfer was golden too. Cheech Marin and Don Johnson in support.
There are no roles that Costner can't play.
THE WAR with Elijah Wood as Costner's son and he's a veteran is also great.
THE UNTOUCHABLES... say no more. Game, set and Costner. -
...there should really be a system that rates the likelihood of having sex after watching a certain movie.Then again, my girl is weird..she gets wound up after CRANK, SPARTACUS, Asian softcore period pieces, and old Hammer films.
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...with advanced tech and giant blue cat people.
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...in that DePalma talkback today. I got there late, so I didn't jump in.
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Flicka, yes I understand. That's the real reason I haven't watched MOON yet... it seems like it might be a damp squib for sex afterwards. Easier to stick on some guaranteed nookie-fodder like Gordon Ramsay shouting at idiots and make the dojo a happy place.
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I've got an old vhs that has a trailer for The War at the beginning. Pretty good? It looked like a decent kinda movie.
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...another one for the permanent file.
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That's a genre?
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after seeing CITY OF GOD.Or, you've got something wrong with your soft bits.
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the same movie.[deleted] and FERNGULLY are nearly exactly the same.
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You think Jimmy boy's had this brought to his attention yet?
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Ted, yes THE WAR is "a decent kinda movie" that's exactly how I'd describe it.
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case for plagiarism. Piece of cake.
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But, you know it was all in good fun. Cobra had Water_Shit take a deadly acidy shit on me in one of his stories and I laughed at it.
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For real this time.
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Anybody planning on seeing ALICE IN WONDERLAND who wants to be Some Other Guy? If not, I'm willing.
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I'm busy this weekend getting blazed and learning yoga from a masseuse friend of mine. Also I'm taking some computer classes on Seussian Physics that I've gotta bone up on.
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I think it's next.
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And avatar is ferngully, then dances with wolves is ferngully...
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as it is FERNGULLY. The analogy between [deleted] and DANCES W/ WOLVES isn't nearly as direct. No one is DANCES has to become a different sort of being to save nature from cruel corporate interests.
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How about that, then.
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I'll be back in a sec..,
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I'm hearing a lot more radio ads for Sea World. Damage control?
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Nobody's gonna force you.
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Just throw in an 'and' and you're good to go.
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Now in new Thai Dragon Fruit Scent®
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...is concerned.Probably as easy as I am with Disney.Maybe.
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killed two other people over the years.It's a serial-killer whale!Don't they know orcas can communicate learned behaviors among themselves? That whole pod are serial-killer whales now.
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from "question" to "exclamation," I'm "Maker's."
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I have no excuse.Sometimes you just have to throw it out there. Hope it sticks to something.
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By the power of Greyskull! Night fellas.
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...sometimes it sticks, sometimes it don't.
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...you have the power!
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I was just brushing up on my cinematic geometry...
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There must be a Sea World in Texas, because now the local radio is telling me they have TICKETS to give away. Houston, maybe? And I'm out for real.
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I hope they're on the lookout for roaming pods of serial-killer whales!
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of pelican slaughter from yesterday? The oddest thing about it was the damn music. Well, that and the giving of rewards out of the "good boy, Shamu" dead fish bucket."Who ate all their pelican? Did you eat all your pelican? Oh, yes you did. You sure did. Who's my good, boy? Who is? Here's your fish guts desert."
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...I didn't want to start something I don't have time to finish.
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...the bear.And it worked. And it was fun.I'm not sorry.GRIN.
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Its stinging my pretty face.I missed Untouchables bashing? Put em in the morrrrrrrrrrgue.
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The police found a dead Boner.
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away from smashing my television into a thousand tiny pieces of regret.Been trying to get on for a while; evenin' guys, how're ye?
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I still wanted to say dead boner. suicide boner.
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Beauty and the Beast is a shambles when you watch it with older eyes. its The Little mermaid that stands out as the stone cold classic.
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Oh, I should be sued for that.
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Central NY. not as bad as the coast. yet.
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i'm 13 yrs old.
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award Colon_El 100 Fuck notes for that.
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http://tinyurl.com/yephug6 I liked it better when kids would use their imagination and have their toy universes collide without prompting from the toy companies.
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which would you rather have?The sphere from PhantasmorThe Glaive from Krull
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Superman/He-Man comic Subs threw up earlier. I vurped at that AND this. Disgusting.
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Feb 25, 2010 9:25:58 PM CST
Joan Rivers doesn't care about your snow-related death.
by colonelfatheart
http://tinyurl.com/ylflol6
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Feb 25, 2010 9:27:00 PM CST
The Glaive is just so much easier to handle. No slippage.
by colonelfatheart
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If you look at it as a clever way to have Superman meet Thor (He-Man = Thor, Teela=Sif, Skeletor=Loki) and fight, it was kind of clever.
If you look at it as crass commercialism, it was kind of...crass. -
This just in child actor Andrew Koenig has been found dead. The actor, son of Star Trek mainstay Walter Koenig was found dead..."Joan Rivers *off camera*: "Who cares!"
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and just cooked a bacon/sausage/egg roll.Its a fine time to be up at 4am.
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Good thing it's only 10:37 pm here.
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Is it that good?
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let it go and it will chase you around the halls.
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Kegs and eggs on the other hand... magnifique.*kisses fingers*
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But you gotta watch the yolk. Greasy foods first, washed down with the beer. If you waste the lager you'll regret it big-time.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:He-man.jpgDC publishes He-Man comics. They're just pimping their own merchandise.
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And a pint of cider.
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A couple of sausages and bacon...and some jellied toast and/or buscuit...MMMMMmmmm...
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I just meant the poor slob who was stuck writing Superman's comic when he had to meet He-Man. He might have looked at it as "well, I might as well make the best of this .Maybe I can just make it an kind of veiled Superman/Thor story. At least that way I won't slit my wrist..."
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and the DaVinci Code. I'm not expecting a mashup any time soon.
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But crass commercialism? Really? Is there such a thing as non-crass commercialism anymore?Seems to me, whoever was dumb enough to buy the He-Man property is going to have to stick that useless slog next to one of its bright and shinies, hoping to counter some of the stink.Just be thankful it isn't Batman or Spider-man who has to do the dirty work.
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The DaVinci Code.
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I'll remind you of it when we see Spider-Man in a Mickey Mouse comic.
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now they are gonna charge me $20 bucks to get Lex + Douche-a-tor instead of just $10 for Lex. It's bullshit! Wait..I meant some kid $20. Not me. I don't play with toys.
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I'm gonna let Flick bash away.
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It rubs me the wrong way.Now, your bog standard Tennents on the other hand...Speaking of Salem's Lot, anyone seen the mini-series? I just bought it for a couple of quid on PlayTrade.
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Inevitable. Jesus Christ, Subs. That'll be my nightmare tonight.
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"Poke the bear (grizzly)" and GRIN are ©Subtitles_Off.You owe me a dime.
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I can't help but bust out laughing any time I see this picture. http://tinyurl.com/yfoljhc
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5 years? What a sure fire way to fuck up any cred you might have gained by acquiring Marvel. I'm not saying your wrong. I'm saying it is the stupidest thing anyone could ever actually try to bring to fruition.
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I read the proposed Masters of the Universe script. One word: Fuck.
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It might be the definitive movie of our times. Flawed, but definitive.
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Feb 25, 2010 10:29:18 PM CST
Actually, I have to turn in, but I will gladly read your
by colonelfatheart
thoughts later.
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I might see where you're going. With ADD a ritalin and shit...i think that is what defines these times.
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I asked people not to poke fun at the Teabaggers, but I'm going to have to break my own edict.
SI is a man who creates a false scenario to deal with the trauma and guilt of his own life, right? He has created a conspiracy and is now trying to act like the hero to stop this nonsensical plot right?
Well what are Teabaggers and the irrational right? People who did a horrible fuck up the last decade and instead of admitting what they did and trying to heal themselves, have created this false reality to shield themselves from the guilt of fucking up the country.
The film is an examination on the power and need of people for deluding themselves and creating false scenarios so they can avoid facing the blame.
In that context, Ben Kingsley is Obama. Leo (the teabagger/Republican) has done something horrible, but instead of owning up to it he has created a BS scenario and passed the blame onto others, including Kingsley (Obama) saying he is part of a conspiracy. Now Leo (Teabaggers) can act like the hero.
So Kingsley (Obama) has created this elaborate Role-Playing venture (or been extremely polite to them and open) in hopes that Leo (Teabagger) will realize he is delusional. But chances are he won't realize he has fucked up and instead cling to his delusions, in which that case extreme left-wingers (Sydow and Levine) are just waiting to lobotomize them for the good of the Asylum (America).
Scorsese is a fucking genius. -
before I dive into the opposite.
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But I am dying to see it. I should mention I am a huge old country music fan.
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Good night Mac. Adios everyone else.
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You too PBers
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the He-Man movie race?
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in favor of same-day coverage of The Health Care Summit.
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I'm going to bed, too. Type at you tomorrow.
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this schedule sucks.
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Just pretty stoned...
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I was gonna get all philisophical about about Crazy Heart with Conti but I'll let it go for some other time. Speaks well of the movie since I can't stop thinking about it since yesterday.
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before I get to the whiskey. It's a motivator.
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Black Sabbath: Planet CaravanBlind Faith: Can't Find My Way HomeAlice In Chains: Jar of Flies album (whole thing)Enya: BoadiceaWeen: Fucked JamPink Floyd: On the Turning AwayRoy Orbison: Crying
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Never drink and drive...you might hit a bump and spill your drink..
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Clutch: Subtle HustlePantera: SlaughteredIron Maiden: Aces HighTrivium: Pull Harder on the Strings of Your MartyrBlack Sabbath: Sabbath Bloody SabbathMetallica: Jump in the FireMastadon: Workhorse
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If you guys don't here from me tomorrow, Annie Wilkes is probably sledging my ankles.
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Stupid Cunt.
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You deal in 20oz beers. My forte is 40oz plus 24s. It's cheaper that way, if you get the right stuff. Me, I'd say I'm on ounce 71.
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Get your ass to Austin.
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Everything I touch is coming up roses. *coughcough* Cheeses...
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Never the. bride. Whatever that means
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Let me get a cyber toke of that...
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and I have had 18 since 3 PM...that equals 216 oz...
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Feb 26, 2010 2:26:10 AM CST
Of course, I have pissed SOME of that out by now...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
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My Wild Turkey and Vicodin playlist:
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I have to be up sometime tomorrow...
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And I'm Super Bad.
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I make the moon come up two hours late....
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Hoping bus service stays suspended so I don't have to go to work.
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So was the question time and the health care forum part of the role-playing adventure for the GOP?
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Feb 26, 2010 7:13:58 AM CST
..."when that happens [...] I'm gonna let Flick bash away"...
by flickapoo
...I can't figure out what "that" is...but I really don't want to miss my bashing opportunity if and when it comes to pass...so tantalizing...so frustrating.
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...got...quite a bit though.
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the green light to stay in. So, uh, SNOW DAY!
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Feb 26, 2010 7:41:14 AM CST
...Toddler-Flick just watched this on PBS. I love this clip...
by flickapoo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc20vMz0V7Q
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Ok, I'm going to shovel for a bit. Check in later.
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Congrats boys
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...and Jim Henson related needs.And if you need to be operated by wires, or just need an old fashioned arm up your ass to control your mouth...I'm your guy.
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...the other day.Don't give up, it can happen to you! The Colonel, Mac, and I are living proof that snow-day dreams do come true! You just have to work hard...and never let go of your dreams...don't let anyone discourage you...think positive...and always give 110%!Now, where did I leave my fucking shovel?
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Whoa you guys, I go away for a day or two and there are like 15 bazillion posts! Get a life ya bums! It's all When Monkeys Attack and killer-Killer Whales in here.
And what's all this about sex talking place after movies/TV? I'm gonna have to give my wife a good talking to. We watched 500 Days last night and nuthin'! It Might get Loud in Blu-ray splendour tonight and nuthin'. No wonder I come on here at all hours (for being Down Under) all cranky-like. It's either that or blame the 3 kids.
Saw you were talking comics too. Watched Kick-Ass the other day. Great fun, and if it was a WB movie maybe they'd even let them keep the great temp music. Oh well. My only thing about the whole movie is that when the shit goes down there's a REALLY interesting way they could've gone with Hit Girl but they didn't. Something that would've turned everything on its head and done things you've never seen before. Now I gotta wait 'til the flick comes out so I can talk about it (and I gotta get to fucking Shutter Island - fuck!). And there were no The Hives songs in the film like there were in the trailer, too bad. Actually there are a few films/trailers at the moment that seem to be finally discovering that band. And Hit Girl was in 500 days too! Aaaaanyway... got my Moon Blu-ray too. Great stuff Zowie.
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First, it is ironic that for all their cries of the evils of Big Government when the Right Wingers were in charge of the government not only did they expand it, but their Republican controlled government ruined the country. Actually, I don't find it ironic at all because I think it was intentional: destroy government from the inside by running it into the ground. "Drown the government like a baby in a bathtub," as Grover Norquist said. Also, Alan Freaking Greenspan, the Ayn Rand acolyte, admitted that his philosophy of and unregulated market regulating itself was wrong. And this is the prime reason we are in the mess we are today, because of right wing free market bullshit.
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Oh well.
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Henson is my all-time hero. Been watching a lot of interview & making-of stuff with him lately. Even got a lovely letter from the company for some work I did a little while back. Thanks for that clip, awesome stuff. The Deniro one sorta freaked me out - trip-E, with a capital E if you get my drift. Still I love the counting one from the seventies with the little kid with the afro and the stripey shirt who's all four-TEEN! Fif-TEEN! Ah...
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...I've always assumed that movies use far more digital than I imagined, even as an assist for "normal" scenes...but I'm still surprised.So basically everything is 300 now?
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...I have a toddler just now, so I've been digging in deep...have you read STREET GANG yet? I hear it's good. And I hear that Netflix is streaming JIM HENSON'S STORY HOUR...if you haven't seen it, you'll love it.
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It's just the modern equivalent of rear projection and painted back drops.
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...and just like Teabaggers, SHUTTER ISLAND was unintentionally funny.Good theory.
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good luck with toddler-poo! I got mine hooked on Henson and Miyazaki early on. My twin girls have gone mental and are suddenly all into princesses now so they'll only stick around if it's got something like that in it, or bizarrely, if I've got Overhaulin' on! So I've lost 'em for a bit I think. I think we all loved Cloudy with a Chance because it was so Muppet-y though. Anyway my boy's a bit older but it's super cool as I'm watching all the great Spielberg films with him and he loves it to bits. Gonna hook 'em up with the Gremlins (only Steve-produced I know) Blu-ray tomorrow!
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I love that the first Spiderman film frustrated the hell out of Dykstra and everyone because no screen was right, digital or not. Spiderman was Red and blue, so they'd generally use greenscreen, but Green Goblin was there too, so it all went out the window. In the end from memory I think they resorted to whatever there was the least of in the particular shot. Poor roto guys, heh...
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...to show her the best stuff, but not be TOO fascist about it.She's off to a great start though, so far her favorites are SESAME STREET (50% new, 50% old) TOTORO, WALL-E, JUNGLE BOOK, and the original WINNIE THE POOH movie.Oh, and we were in a toy store the other day and when she saw Buzz Lightyear she shouted "TADDY! IT'S SAMURAI JACK!!".My proudest day.
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Feb 26, 2010 8:49:52 AM CST
...I'm hoping we'll be able to avoid the princess business...
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...but I'm determined to let her like what she likes...as long as it's not harmful in some way. The plan is to just show her the best stuff and hope for the best.
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and I was trying to fathom what the casting directors are thinking by considering John Krasinski for Captain America. Unless they are going the parody root which isn't going to work when they make the Avengers movie. So, that can't be it. I wish there was an athlete who could act. Because I think that's what they need. A physical actor who can act with his body. Because, Cap is always running around a lot and doing acrobatic stuff. Of course, they could always use a stunt double for that stuff and put Krasinski in a muscle suit for the close-ups, even then, other then his chin, even his face isn't suited for the role. He's got a goof nose and googly bug eyes and ears that stick out. Not saying he's not an attractive guy, but rugged good looks that the role requires, he has not. Also, Cap is a leader and I wouldn't follow Krasinski into a strip club, even if he were paying.
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February 25th, 2010...The Anti-Evangelist, proselytizing against the logical inconsistencies in a literal interpretation of the Christian Bible. Or, the second quickest way to get yerself tied to the bumper of a pick-up truck when you visit Enid, Oklahoma?...'Lop also favors the return of the movie serial...Sixies will not tolerate the bashing of Disney's TARZAN, so Flick starts bashing Disney's TARZAN..."Wah! You can't make arguments in the Subbary®. Wah! That's not fair, or something. Wah! I'm gonna throw a tantrum, and, no, I will not go to time-out. Wah! Wah!" (Poke this bear, will you?)...Vades recounts some details about Extenz® commercials shot around his hometown and wishes Disney's TARZAN had fulfilled the promise of its trailer...Colon-El is watching the Presidential Health Care Summit ...PennyB sees no real need for a new Disney style...Vades volunteers to do Some Guy with Burton's ALICE IN WONDERLAND. Unless someone else wants to, I'll be Some Other Guy...Stabby thinks John Krasinski would be the wrong choice to play Captain America, too...The Miss Gulf Arab Camel beauty pageant in Dubai (http://tinyurl.com/y8ako86) ...Some journalist believes 545 persons in Government are incompetent and responsible for the nation's woes, and The People know what's best, skimming over the fact that the U.S. Government is nothing more than a microcosm of The People who get what They vote for and deserve (http://www.rense.com /general89/545.htm) ..."Wah! That's an argument, right there! I said no argument in the Subbary®. Weren't you listening to me? Wah! Wah! Who do you think you are? Wah!" (Sometimes you take a bite out of the bear, but, those times, the bear's gonna bite you back unless you give the bear a reach-around immediately after biting him so he knows it's all just the natural playfulness of spring-time bear sexing.)...Leaky shark tank (http://tinyurl.com/ykaj7wk) ...'moose thinks John Krasinski will surprise his detractors if cast as Captain America...Is anybody passionate about Captain America? Turns out, not so much, really...Um, what's an Entmoot?...Zenra Curling - naked Japanese girls on a gunky Slip N' Slide®. Or, Best Winter Olympic Competition, Ever? (http://tinyurl.com/ydydva8) ..."Watch this. He thinks he can make an argument in The Subbary®, which I've told him is against the rules? I'm gonna continue the Ent metaphor that's over his pea-brain, and we can all laugh at him when he doesn't get it! Ha! Stupid bear!"...☆☆RIGHT-BRAIN CINEMA☆☆™: DEAD SNOW - formulaic but fun. ★★★☆☆ ...Take that back, Mac and 'Lop are passionate about Captain America..."Hehehehehe. I got the bear to growl. Now I'm gonna throw marshmallows at him and watch them get all gunked up in his whiskers. Stupid bear!"...Peebers like The Chronic. (Do the hip kids still call it "The Chronic?")..."Wah! Wah! I got you, bear! Admit it, bear! This is what you sound like, 'FAHCKIN' CUNNND.' Don't try to act like I didn't get you, 'cause I got you good, bear, and you know it. Wah!" (Keep it up, the bear grumbles to itself. I'm just gonna sit here quietly on my haunches.)...Glen Beck is a big "Stargate" fan. As if we needed another reason to hate on "Stargate"...Headline Fails (http://tinyurl.com/yhxzrmx) ...Latest Chapters of "Pedaltrek: The Next Generation"...Cobra--Kai is curious about hookers...You're looking at a green-screen, and you don't even know it (http://tinyurl.com/y9g4273) ...'Lop says, "If life WERE like a comic book...I imagine a bunch of people...hanging around Nuclear Power Plants just hoping for an origin."...☆☆RIGHT-BRAIN CINEMA☆☆™: MOON - really smart science-fiction. ★★★★☆ ...Andrew "Boner" Koenig's body is found in Vancouver. Stiff Boner. (Too soon? Probably. Funny? Definitely.)...Cobra on Costner. He thinks MOON seems like it might be a "damp squib" for post-movie coitus. I assure him CITY OF GOD is cinematic Viagra®..."Hehehehe. I'm gonna kick the bear. Watch me. The bear's all flea-bitten and its breath smells like a salmon run. Hey, stupid, slobbery bear, AVATAR. Hehehehehe. GRIN"...Fuggeddaboudit, for real...There's a sea-World in San Antonia, TX, and if Texans keep up with their secessionist bullsh!, we're gonna leave them on their own against the invading hordes of serial-killer whales..."Lex Luthor and He-Man, sittin' in a blister-pack. K-I-S-S-I-N-G"...Sphere or Glaive?...MadFuckingMax, drinking beers with his breakfast sausage roll...'Lop re-thinks SHUTTER ISLAND as political analogy...Mac can't sleep and wants to talk CRAZY HEART while he plays some loud tunes...Cheeses gives the 12th-Beer Alert @ 11:19 P.M....Grrrrrrr, thinks the bear...No bears were harmed during the making of today's Subbary® -
...I didn't think so at the time...do I need to do some soul searching?
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Yeah, it sounds like I'm 'steering them' from what I wrote, but I'm not at all. I just know 'em and am happy to expose 'em to the great stuff I think they'll probably like. They all love Totoro to bits. And it's funny - I went on holiday with my brother and his family a while back and we went to the movies on a couple of rainy days. Their choice and preferred movie in the end was the Bruckheimer hamster one. Mine chose and preferred Pixar. And like my Dad before me and then myself, the boy loves Thunderbirds (the show). Took him to the execrable movie and he loved the effects/ships and all (which of course could do so much more), but eventually went back to the show. They all naturally gravitated to classic Warners shorts without a word from me. Made me proud when I walked by the living room...
As for 'protecting' them, it's funny. While my boy is 'old enough' mentally (he just turned 10) for Iron Man and Superman Returns, I haven't shown him yet because I know the mean-ness in scenes like the ones in both where they're viciously kicking a guy in the guts while he's down/helpless would really upset him, whereas other seemingly more out-and-out violent movies he's fine with and understands what's what. I had no problem with him watching Avatar for example. I think you just gotta be attentive, know your kids and not necessarily what's recommended for everyone. And mine love Jack too. Hooray! Just "exposed" them to Ren & Stimpy. They keep harrassing me to find a tie-in book from when it came out that's scratch n sniff and has a pile of old socks that make you wanna hurl. The eldest thinks I may be telling a long one and that it's an urban myth, but the truth is I do have it. I just have no idea where/never want to smell that stench again!
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...two cents for "poking the bear". I didn't know it was your © and I've been saying it ever since my Hawaiian shirt wearing Grizzly Adams look-alike prof. in art school.But of course we all owe you for the daily Subbary®, so you have more nickels coming your way...
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it was starting to lose its place on The Threat-Down, what with all the whales and chimps, so it decided to bare its teeth a little.
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...can let us see some of your work...if you're so inclined.
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...nobody pokes a squirrel, or a raccoon, or even a badger.
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...I think it sorta liked it.
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Fiercest of the animals. Next to wolverines.(Picture Hugh Jackman on the Red Carpet doing jazz hands, and you'll have an idea of what i was going for.)
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in three days.
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...I'm assembling a gift basket of honey, fish, berries, and grubs...
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Cool! I'll check it out! But now I really gotta go. 3 in the morning - a SATURDAY morning, and I still got shit to do. Talk later in (your) day! P.S. - Flick - "the letter" didn't give you a clue about what film I might have been doing stuff for a while back?! Hmmm...
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Made by the same directing team as the Crank movies, which I enjoyed. I was a little disappointed in Gamer. I appreciate that they were trying to do something a little different with this film, but it wasn't much fun. It was not the kinetic live action cartoon that the Cranks were. It was kinetic, but it was also a satire of our technological society and online gaming virtual worlds. But, the satire doesn't really work because they are exploiting the very things they are attempting to satirize: mindless sex and violence. Mostly violence. The premise is basically Running Man meets Avatar. It is a game where players jack into live human beings and control them in a live action setting. So, when your character dies he is a real human being shedding real blood and guts. And the movie is graphic in this regard. The characters are death row prison inmates of which Gerard Butler is one. The deal is if they win 30 games they are given their freedom. Gerard's Kable has 27 under his belt. But, the game's creator, an out of touch tech douchebag of the highest order, has taken steps to guarantee this will never happen. He's rigged the game, so to speak. Fortunately, Kable has a group of hackers on his side to help him fight the good fight. While, visually there is a lot to appreciate in this movie, as with the Cranks, the action sequences fell flat for the most part and there was not enough character development for me to care about Kable's plight. I do love these two director's visual style, which is surprising because they use everything in the MTV handbook which I usually despise. And they know how to shoot hot chicks and do not shy away from gratuitous nudity. Any guy will appreciate how the camera follows the lead actress around with long shots of her ass in babygirl hot pants. If you like this sort of thing and you already know if you do, I'd say it's worth a rental. **1/2 out or 5 P.S. There was a kooky crazy scene at the end where the villain does a song and dance routine to Sinatra's version of Under My Skin, which I really dug.
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...hmmm...
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Put your wah-wahs back in your pocket.
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Just wanna correct your Subbary. I am passionate about the Captain America comic book hero; I could care less about the movie.
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Did he say who he'd like to play the part? Seriously, I'm not trolling 'moose here. I'm genuinely interested in discussing this topic. And my beef is with the producers and casting director not my four-legged friend.
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I somehow got wrangled into helping someone move.
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I can ask him myself. 'Lop, what do you think about the idea of John Krasinski as Cap?
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He is a man with Robert Redford's looks, John Cena's build, Audie Murphy's mystique and JFK's presence. He can only exist in comic books.
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could have come close? 70s The Deep era. He's the only person I can think of.
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If so, what do you think of the visual style and editing of those films? I often wonder why more action films don't get nominated for the Best Editing Oscar. I blame it on snobbery. I mean, a movie like Crank has to be more difficult to edit than an American Beauty.
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I think. Action pictures that are all amped-up and quick cut require more edits, but are the edits skillful?Editing is one of those awards that is voted on strictly by editors, right? I mean, really, how does anyone else judge editing, since no one knows what is edited away? Then again, I am always semi-suspicious of peer-exclusive voting because that seems as if it would be influenced by crony-ism and personal relationships.
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based on his thoughts on the choppy editing style of The Departed. I believe he said that emotion not continuity should be the number one concern in each edit.
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itself. And I would say that it is the one genre where editing is front and foremost and vitally important. And the fact that you don't notice the editing in a fist fight or a gunfight makes it all the more impressive.
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It isn't called the invisible art for nothing.
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'llI get more in depth Stabby.
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That's true. That actually makes my case for action films being nominated more even more valid.
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Ugh!
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that action editors are the victims of snobbery, which I don't.
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but their films sometimes exclude them from even being nominated. The academy would never in a million years give a movie like Crank 2 an Oscar, any Oscar and yet it has some of the best cinematography and editing I've ever seen. Certainly, editing. The whole film's style is crafted in post-production.
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I wouldn't have put him in my Top 10
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the members look for what inspires them. CRANK 2 has as much of a chance to get attention as all the other films. The producers of CRANK 2 should get copies of screeners into every members hands if it really cares about being nommed.You sort of have to stop looking at The Academy Award as something that defines Excellence, because it doesn't. There isn't a level playing field, and they haven't considered every movie made in any given year. Most, years, they're lucky if they get a few really good pictures nominated in the right categories.This year, for example, is just ridiculous.
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in homage to our Nolanverse roots. No, seriously, obviously the order they appear in is arbitrary. And Kathryn Bigelow should not be in the top 25. Suddenly everyone forgets Jane Campion. She's still working.
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out of me!
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I missed that. They should've alphabetized it, then.
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at all, as punishment for THE LOVELY BONES and KING KONG.
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Forgot he was on that list. Boooo.
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Forgot he was on that list. Boooo.
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are Academy Awards next week?
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company in here while everybody else is watching that.I'll post a sign-up sheet.
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I think my gf's bday is a week later, and I think I'll end up having to wait to see it. May have to count me out of the This Guy and Other Guy review =(.
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Oh well. Maybe Sixies'll want to do it.
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Just for industry parties. They give out free booze. And the chicks all try and dress hot and elegant but just come out cheap and skanky.
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If it's not there's no way Bigelow should be as low on the list as she is. I understand that she's the only woman, so I don't mind her being on it. But, ahead of Tarantino and some of the others on that list? And Nolan is #1?
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next week huh?ill drag my son to it..
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Is that all they cut good is the action. Take GAMER, which I hated. The film has no tempo or pacing in my opinion. Which is fine with action scenes, but for an overall movie it is schizophrenic and jarring (in a bad way).
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Well, then it makes some sense.
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http://tinyurl.com/yddmbhxFortified with egg nuggets!
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And I agree about the pacing lacking. But, I don't know about only the action scenes being edited well in action movies. I just think that the other elements of the films such as writing and acting are often subpar. You can't blame an editor for that.
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My girlfriend does not.
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I'm so glad that 500 days Webb guy isn't on that list. Dude made one movie and all of a sudden he's an a-list director.
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man 500 days of summer was fucking good. that shit really holds up too. Better then any other indy rommance movie of recent.
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But if you can criticize acting or cinematography in a movie, and for all we know the editor cut in the worst takes, it is just as fair to criticize editors for the bad acting or camera work in a scene.
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any explanation to explain the order. They describe it as a "countdown" which implies they intend it as a list of "the most talented, in-demand filmmakers behind the camera today." As is everything with EW, that list is almost useless. Pop-and-Hollywood Focused, Reality TV Tested And Interior Decorator Approved!™
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Jesus fucking christ! I haven't seen Precious but its one movie. I'm pretty sure his last movie Shawdowboxer people said that this guy should give up directing. God I don't even want to see the rest of the list. Especially if it doesn't have adam shankman on there. Which I know it wont.
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My perfect Valentine's day would be fishnet stockings and a short skirt, and sex in a bathroom at a dive bar.
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The guy gets on that list and will probably take home the NCAAP Image Award for directing, while Scott Sanders of BLACK DYNAMITE gets to just hold his dick.
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FUCK YEAH! That dude is where its at. He needs to get to work on his Keith David Bio pick. Keith of course will play himself. Its sure to sweep all awards.
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He was the fucking best director of last decade! He should easily be in the top 3.
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has gotten career-best performances from Billy-Bob Thornton, Halle Berry, Peter Boyle, fucking P. Diddy, Monique and Mariah Carrey. I'd be one to say the brief performance the director coaxed from Heath Ledger is more impressive than the actor's lauded "Joker."There must be something more to him than just the color of his skin. If it were just that, Tyler Perry'd be on the list. Probably at #2.
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ending up in the movie. That is the directors responsibility. He is accountable until the end of post. Maybe not on a tv show or some studio garbage films, but certainly most features.
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You don't fucking know the greatest gay director working these days!! His movies have only grossed: $1,049,745,397 worldwide!
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One movie, guys. One movie.
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The one he bought an Island for? Homina homina homina...http://www.wwtdd.com/2010/02/and-this-is-why/
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Didn't direct it. I don't think he can be said to be the one to get good performances out of the aforementioned actors.
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Sigh.
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but I wouldn't know, because even though it's been at the top of my Queue since it came out Netflix refuses to send it to me. I do, however, think that it is absurd that Webb is top of the list to direct the next Spiderman film whether or not 500 Days is great. He needs a few more films under his belt to take over a franchise like that. Plus it's clear to me that picking him as the director means that they plan on making Spidey even more of an emo romantic comedy than it already is which = Twilight Spidey = bad in my book.
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Though I finally watched 500 Days of Summer 2 weeks ago and was very, very impressed with it. I have no doubt that Marc Webb will get some good, dramatic performances from his actors, whoever they may be. He was stylish, but not too much, and surprisingly good with actors. You can't say that about a lot of music video directors' first films.
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...the fact that that guy is directing SPIDER-MAN is the only reason I have any interest in the project at all.I hope he can do something unusual with it...
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I've heard two differing opinions about it: 1. it is the heartwrenching urban oscar worthy film that it is made out to be, 2. It is so overwrought and melodramatic to the point of becoming a John Waters' comedy. Just wondering which it is. Actually really looking forward for to it on DVD. Hoping the latter is the case.
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Oh, well. (Biting my tongue.)
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and that Subby has assumed my former role as peace keeper.
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I'm trying to find some kind of internal logic to their hiearchy and have come up short. Can anyone care to explain to me the criteria on which they've based their rankings?
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We think it's hottest right now. This second. Hence Scorsese as #2.
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i shoveled when i got home last night, again later that night and it took an hour AND when I had finished I just had to start again cause another inch had accumulated. Now i got shovel another 4 inches. Fuckin bullshit. You can't even snort this stuff.
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Well..it's timing out to be Cop Out i guess. I was gonna see both anyway.
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A he's got tons of musical videos to show for, and he's made one movie to show he's no Hype Williams or Joseph Kahn. Probably gonna end up more like David Fincher good. Plus I bet he'll make another movie before Spiderman happens. I heard he was scouting a smaller movie before all this spiderman stuff happened. I'd rather see someone freash then someone stale. But it still is a good point, and I don't mind emo Peter Parker, he's always been sort of a bitch in my book.
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I feel I'm slowly turning into the resident Kobe...
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...I recently saw ASSASSINATION OF A HIGH SCHOOL PRESIDENT. Delightful little movie if you go in with the right expectations. Combines elements of newer high school movies like BRICK and CHARLEY BARTLETT with older stuff like BREAKFAST CLUB and PRETTY IN PINK.Anyway, the kid who plays the lead (Reece Thompson) might make a good Peter Parker in my very non-expert opinion.
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Since you both RAN AWAY on me last night;) I'll spill it now spoiler free cause I don't wanna damage anyones mental state.In the vein of what Lop was saying about SI and Americas current state...I walked away from Crazy Heart feeling like it was Robert Duvall's apology letter from Baby Boomers to the younger generation down to the last scene. Subs you'll probably be able to see the comparison but I won't say more while Conti is around.Anyway..SEE CRAZY HEART PEOPLE. The movie has latched onto my brain. In a good way. Now I gotta go shovel more. COCK SUCKER!
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Got a busy weekend but I am dying to see that one.
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nothing like getting angry in front of the family..
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Lee Daniels also directed MONSTERS BALL. That's two well-respected films to Kathryn Bigelow's one.
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Coming from EW that makes a lot of sense. Although I like Nolan, it baffles me that he would be considered #1. I do appreciate, however, the appearance of Miyazaki. I wonder if he's becoming a household name.
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And we saw how that worked out with the debacle that was SM3. They played out the whole romance Love triangle thing enough. Don't you think they should go in a completely new direction instead of doubling down on Webb?
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Was gonna try a double feature with The Crazies but my friend had work to do and we'll only get to see one.
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I am late with my post. You already corrected yourself.
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If he has some sort of emotional roller coster to get emo over. Like maybe something traumatic...like the DEATH OF HIS FUCKING GIRLFRIEND.
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That bar scene was right out of any Lynch movie. And Lance Henricksen was doing Frank Booth.
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...also, he was dull, not witty or sarcastic, soft faced, and bug eyed.Levitt in 500 DAYS was an infinitely more interesting character.
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a peninsula!
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Cause of that stupid dance scene. Other then that it was the same bitchy Parker we saw in the first two.
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otherwise I'm out. And Emma Stone for MJ.
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A bad movie pretending to be good.
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It was one of the few good things. That and Sandman's origin.
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I didn't take that away from it at all. I don't think Jeff Bridges or Robert Duvall's characters represent "baby boomers" as much as just two stubborn old guys who realize, later in their lives, that they can't retrace their steps. It is interesting to me to look at it from the opposite point of view, as all the younger characters actually value and seek out recognition from the elder characters.I'm glad you liked it, though. It isn't flashy in any way, just very satisfying.I know 'moose really liked it, too.Jeff Bridges is just so natural in it. I'd award acting to Matt Damon for THE INFORMANT!, but he's not even nominated, so Bridges' is the best Oscar-nommed performance I've seen this year.For me, personally, CRAZY HEART represents everything I like in these kinds of coming-of-no-matter-what-age movies. The exact opposite of my impression of THE WRESTLER.
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The Island from LOST?
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Emo as in being 'emotive'? Or emo as in being 'emotional'? I'd prefer not to see a miserable Peter Parker. From what I can remember, Parker had an emotional buoyancy that protected him from succumbing to his adversaries wiles. Parker's sarcastic emotional shell was a major element of his character that was largely ignored with Raimi's films. Probably, one of the only real problems I had with Raimi's interpretation.
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an enigma wrapped in a puzzle and deep fried in mystery.
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fecal matter from Leonardo DiCaprio floating in a sea of Martin Scorsese's urine.
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bad.
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I think Zooey Deschanel would make an even better Mary Jane. All she needs is a nice red-dye job. Zooey's looks combined with that sultry voice of hers would could really bring the character to life.
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Wood?
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in any of the upcoming rebooted superheroes, but I don't exactly know how. What's less than a fraction of an iota?
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The Wrestler wasn't supposed to be a feel good movie about being old and washed up. It was supposed to be a tragedy of one stubborn man who has one last shot at redemption and blows it. I don't think it's fair to compare it to Crazy Heart, which I haven't seen yet.
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I want a real redhead for MJ this time. Don't ask me why, but I'm tired of dye jobs. I know, Gwen is blonde and Zooey isn't, but most blondes are not natural. So that doesn't bother me.
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But it presents hope as an alternative to fetishizing one's misery. And, a tragedy is wholly dependent on characters you give a shit about. Mickey Rourke's Wrestler's only goal was to bang Marisa Tomei while listening to cranked-up Def Leppard. Couldn't relate. Couldn't give a shit.
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http://games.adultswim.com/robot-unicorn-attack-twitchy-online-game.html Holy CRAP does this song kick ass.
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and Spike Jones. I would love to have that printed on a t-shirt cropped down to just the Malkovich part.
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...and picturing Zooey Deschanel as a blonde isn't doing anything to harm my afternoon.
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totally fit with Rourke's character. Wrestler's are largely masochists, the abuse they put their bodies through. As a film about a Pro Wrestler it was very effective and realistic.
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he just threw it away. He couldn't change. Old dogs.
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...good guy, but it's maddening.Still, If I was old fashioned scuba diving and had to pick one person to crank the air down the hose and keep me alive...he'd be at the top of my list.
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THE WRESTLER was a lazy, ugly, anti-ROCKY. CRAZY HEART isn't any more ambitious, but it's more satisfying in every way. And, the two films tell the exact same story in a completely different way, with gin-joint country rock substituting for small-market wrassling.
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Is actually from 1994. A 2009 remix of "Always" by Erasure. It totally fits a game in which you control a robot Unicorn with rainbow dash powers who collects butterflies.
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...for something...book cover, movie poster...hmmm...
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They re-released it near me. And Netflix doesn't seem to want to send it to me.
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Not some out-of-place rah-rah followed by a freeze frame middle-finger.
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Feb 26, 2010 2:41:29 PM CST
yes, HURT LOCKER is most deffy worth seeing in a theater.
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I'd pay double for it and wear 3D goggles, if they made me.
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Golden blonde. Now that Stabby has mentioned it, I'd like to see her as Gwen Stacy. I think she'd look good as a platinum blonde.
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Seeing it this Sunday.
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he was also trying to maken amends with his daughter...and enter her life after being an absentee father...
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Got ya, didn't I?
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...while battling a self destructive streak a mile wide.
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He was paying her lip service, in the hope she would accept him and lend him credence for his wasted life. He felt guilt, sure, but he made no connection.
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While I fantasized about a Iron Man-ripoff post credits sequence with Captain Boomerang and Amanda Waller.
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That surprises me. From the commercials it looks like yet another stupid zombie movie.
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That doesn't surprise me.
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Gotcha suckers!
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Berlanti is better known for scripting numerous TV dramedies, among them “Dawson’s Creek,” “Young Americans,” “Everwood,” “Jack & Bobby,” “Brothers & Sisters” and “Eli Stone.”
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I DID like the original.
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...behind hiring a tv writer to pen a Flash adaptation. They are hoping to make another franchise and want stories of a more episodic nature. However, I don't agree with whomever made the decision. Superheroes should be treated more like modern personifications of Greek Gods. Something I have an inkling a television writer might not grasp.
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I love how they wrote that into Justice League: New Frontier, him saying that about himself when someone calls him a superhero. "Me, no! All I do is run around really fast."
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Ah, don't worry about it. They'll just end up kicking his script for this out the way they did with his GREEN LANTERN. He'll have plenty of practice before he ends up with the duties to write BOOSTER AND BEETLE.
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Do you think it would be impossible to elevate such a character beyond a two-dimensional portrayal?
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Ugh.
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when it comes to The Flash. It should be all-fun, all the time. I'm not saying it has to be comedy or spoof, but if they attempt any kind of Nolanization of the concept, they're doomed to failure.
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Just realized DV you know what I'm talking about. Good job on getting a review out for that one guys!
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Agreed. However, I don't think making a character 'dark and brooding' is the only way to add gravitas to a story. I would never propose a "Nolanization" of the character, merely the crafting of a good screenplay that utilizes the potential of the character. Hell, Flash is a wiseass. Taking that away from him would strip him of dimension.
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or put down or put out to sea...i guess it had some incrimating pictures or something..
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is about david geffen..its official
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Thanks for the suggestions.
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The '80s-'90s Suicide Squad series is one of the best runs of comics ever.
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According to whom?
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to write the screenplay for The Blue Beetle movie.
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carly herself
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Dude's not even dead yet, is he?
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When I'm clearly the most qualified for the job? Seriously, tho, what's your line of thinking on that one?
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And Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds was about Ringo's dog, Sky Diamonds.
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Somebody loves Flash somewhere as much as you love Blue Beetle.
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Living proof that 'hell hath no fury like a woman scorned'.
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Take that as you will.
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Kneejerk reactions a specialty!
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That adds fuel to the fire of my theory. What's the word on the Green Lantern script? Is it supposed to be any good?
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Took me a second to figure out what you were referring to. Either A) Kevin Smith's our bud or B) There were no free screenings (more likely).
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was the only thing that made it remotely interesting. "Free Man In Paris" is supposedly about Geffen, too, innit?
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It'll only die trying to get back, like Keiko, The "Free Willy" whale did. This whale was probably born at Sew World, anyway.
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but it has since been re-written.
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Cop Out Contest??? Also Harry's seen the crazies as well.
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I'd expect a Crazies review, uhm, never. Or tomorrow. And no one will pay to see Cop Out. Or they will, but they won't review it bc its terrible, I bet.
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Literally.
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Hopefully it'll be a throwback to '80s buddy cop movies. We'll see....
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games on NBA 2K10 later, I'm back. The woman was hogging the computer today.
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I don't know if this is appropriate on AICN, but you guys should check out Faraci's review on CHUD. Faraci pisses me off a lot, and he probably has loads of resentment against Kevin Smith, but there's more hate per word in his review of COP OUT than in any review of anything I've read in a while.
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...recent pedoback.Oh Cobra my captain! [talkbacker stands on his desk]
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Unfortunately, that tells us very little. It seems rewrites occur on two seperate occasions, either a) the script is shit or b) it's something that the powers-that-be find too difficult for the mainstream audience to grasp or accept (i.e. too good).
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...sickening crime aside, those words together make me smile.It's the little things in life that you cherish.
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I love me a hate-filled diatribe.
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There are two of them?
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Who is she? I dunno. Some Real Housewife of NY or NJ? Who cares. I'd do her.
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Of hating Kevin Smith. Sure he's full of himself, at least he admits it. I mean has he ever taken some franchise you loved and run it into the ground? And he hasn't just blown tons of money on shitty movies, just one.
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I think he's referring to the last Polanski-back.
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... in Harry's review as well..
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I'm sorry I put off seeing it this long. With my expectations lowered a lot it turned out to be a pretty darn good flick. Flawed, but good.
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Does Bale do his growly thing in this one, too?
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... So much as it disgusted me because it was a fucking terrible piece of shit writing masquerading as a "review".
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He does his dour thing, but no growl.
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...and I can separate the man from the art, but they're pushing this movie harder than any yet this year without the decency of offering us a pre-assrape apéritif first.I disapprove.
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I know MattManReturns, I've seen him frequently, and he used to go by MattManBegins. Recently I've also seen a MisterManReturns a few times. no problem. But then yesterday there was a frickin' MonkeyManReturns. Jeebus Christo.
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...in an entire talkback.I'd be curious to see statistics about name-change, new member sign-ups, multiple screen names etc...a full and comprehensive breakdown. Just to satisfy my idle curiosity.I'm sure Harry's working on a detailed article as we speak.
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Feb 26, 2010 5:30:35 PM CST
Is there a way to track what people have said/written here?
by colonelfatheart
It'd be great if AICN were to follow a Daily Kos-style format, in which members could post a diary entry once a day in addition to being able to comment in response to specific comments, etc. People would have profiles, and members would be able to access each other's archives ...
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as kinda ineffecient.
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So I had high hopes for this movie. I have a soft spot for Smith so I went in giving him the benefit of the doubt. This is by no means a great or perfect movie. I actually missed some of the Smith dialogue that you expect from his movies. Since he didn't write it, that is absent. I won't even talk about the plot cause it is essentially irrelevant. It is just nonsense to send Willis and Morgan off on some mission. It is also neither the best or worst part of this movie.This movie is no surprise at all. If you hate Tracy Morgan..you'll hate him here. If you like Bruce Willis you'll like him here Willis is just a watered down John McClane. The Good: Harlod Faltermyer's score is front and center here. Unlike Elfman in Wolfman, Faltermeyer pops in here and there and I wanted to C-walk in the isles of the theater. They also mix in some Def Jam and other pop hits to create a vibe that was without a doubt the star of this movie. I might be alone on this one but I thought Smith did a a nice job of directing. Mostly it looks like he takes some cliched shots and worked them in but it is 110% more of a "Hollywood" movie than he has ever made. He also edited it so the visuals were all on him. The glamor shots of the city are nice but I suspect he may have had nothing to do with these. All in all he didn't do anything that really excited me but it was an improvement for him. The "growth" as a director, that he has been criticized for, is there on some level.The Bad: Sean William Scott was annoying.The movie never finds any kind of stride. I was pumped right off the bat. The very first scene with Willis and Morgan I found funny but it then sinks from there. This seemed to be a problem throughout the movie. I would chuckle then roll my eyes. Laugh then scratch my head.I thought there might be some funnier shit than what we got from the commercials but not really. There was a good supporting cast that never really gets to shine. The fact is that you already know if this is for you or not. 2.5 outta 5.
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He's the same in every movie, so I know what I'm getting there. Mac, you've convinced me. I'ma gonna see the movie.
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I'm not expecting Hamlet or anything. I AM glad that the Faltermeyer score is good. I miss that guy's scores so much it hurts. Otherwise, I pretty much know what I'm getting beforehand.
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Shit that people have never even heard of gets a write up, but total silence on COP OUT. HUH
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Shit that people have never even heard of gets a write up, but total silence on COP OUT. HUH
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Okay, it' an older film but it's only just hit Blu Ray, so here's my opinion on IN THE LOOP.
Worth watching!
Yes, this movie is the WEST WING crossed with the British version of THE OFFICE. Nice Hollywood production values but quirky British TV styled dialogue. And it's the dialogue that you'll watch this for. Like the WEST WING or THE OFFICE it's an ensemble piece but the 'star' of the movie imho is the 'fixer' character who answers directly to the British PM. He's a foul-mouthed Scotsman who makes the average aicn talkbacker look illiterate when it comes to dissing. It's one thing to insult someone on this website through text, but when you see similar dissing applied, even magnified, and delivered face-to-face then you can't help but laugh. And that's what it's all about. Laughter. Not the obvious japes that we've all seen before in countless teen comedies from PORKYS to the recent Apatow crop, but comedy of a cleverer sort. Satire. And more specifically political satire.
IN THE LOOP shares the same tradition as SPINAL TAP. One satirizes music the other satirizes politics but they're definitely cut from the same cloth. So, it's a simple summation - if you liked SPINAL TAP you will most definitely like IN THE LOOP. Go rent!
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my review is better than anything Capone would turd out. imho.
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Yeah, I guess I do kinda remember that.
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Colon-El, you can search for 'yourself' in the little box at the top next to Sign Out. It uses aicn's dodgy search engine but in theory everything you've ever posted should be listed there.
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Nice review for IN THE LOOP, too. That's coming soon on my queue.
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Feb 26, 2010 6:18:56 PM CST
The more I hear about In The Loop, the more I gotta see it.
by tedkordlives
Sounds right up my proverbial alley.
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At Googleville, whgich you have yet to join, Cobes.http://tinyurl.com/yz3kena
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was the funniest, best comedy I saw last year.
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New Prince 2 wash the echo of that "Purple & Gold" shit out of our ears:"Cause and Effect"http://tinyurl.com/y9n9oay80s "Purple Rain" vibe
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6:51:18
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6:51:18
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Hopefully I'll have it ready to go before the weekend's over.
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THE GHOST WRITER ★★★★
THE CRAZIES ★★ ½
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Is it going to be a Shelter exclusive? Posted here in installments?
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I'll check back in when I'm drunk and lippy.
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Later Subs.
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Sorry I've been infrequent today. I'm exhausted and I have a night of herb and scotch ahead of me. That's the Colonel's sleeping pill.
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Later.
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Ebert's just jealous of Kevin Smith's big mouth.
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I wait half an hour for a resonse and that's it? Maybe that wasn't as funny as I thought. Fuck Prince. Later.
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Which mean CAPONE SHOULD HAVE SEEN IT. According to that Esquire story on Ebert, Capone is in the screening room too, being one of the Chicago critics. If he was there and doesn't post a review, methinks he doesn't want to talk shit about Kevin Smith's film.
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How they hangin'?
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sorry but i'm at work so I it took me a minute to get back.Glad you liked the funny in the FLASHback too.
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I have 42 beers in the fridge, a fresh OZ of premium bud and no where to be til Monday afternoon...I'll probably need more beer by then, hunh?
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I think I signed up for the pedalback the right way. I think...
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your my personal hero.
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And another Vader?
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Sometime tomorrow afternoon I have to build some small stages for my daugher and her two belly dancing partners for a show thay have in two weeks...but that ain't hardly work...
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I'm on my 4th gin and tonic, meself. Going to be naughty, though... offline... That is all.
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now it really is the life.Looks like the Nolan Bros have the Warner Bros. by the bros. Right by the fat wrinkly brothers.
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looks like we are on the dark side of the moon tonight.
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You have an important position on the USS Gary Oldman, and it isn't missionairy...
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Origins…Top 12 First Posts, by order of appearance on the original 10,000 post Oldman thread…birthplace of the Pedalback…
1) Six Demon Bag……………..2:21:10 July 24. 2009
2) Stabby………………………2:28:17 24
3) Series Seven………………..2:43:09 24
4) Contenentalop………………3:19:47 24
5) Subtitles Off………………..3:36:51 24
6) Cobra Kai…………………..3:4036 24
7) Yackbacker…………………5:22:10 24
8) TedKordLives………………6:33:22 24
9) Asi,movLives……………….6:52:06 24
10) Taking Scorpio’s Calls……2:12:53 July 26
11) Cheeses-of_Nazareth ……..2:52:44 July 27
12) Dr. Morbius ……………….12:56:41July 31
There were others I recognized but do not consider a part of this organization…I am still looking for the 13th pedal backer who could possibly move into the top 12 if enough of the original 12 decide that AsimovsLives was never an official Pedalbacker…And Dr. Morbius could fall out of the top 12 if it is discovered that I missed somebody, or that the 12 decide that someone like Odo19, who appeared at …6:08:42 July 26and used to post a lot ...making him 11 and Cheeses 12...What’s funny about scanning those 7 month old posts is seeing how excited we all were at reaching 1500 posts!!!! HHHHHAAAAA!!!!
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Feb 27, 2010 12:29:46 AM CST
"IN THE LOOP was the funniest, best comedy I saw last year."
by continentalop
You still haven't seem (deleted) yet have you?
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if so, I missed your thoughts...was that another exclusive with AIBN?
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While I disagree with Subs about the importance/impact of 3-D in changing the nature of film, I completely agree about (deleted) being a film that holds no interest for me.
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Not terrible like I thought it was going to be. Too much Tracy, but overall a stupidly fun buddy cop film.
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for a drug called, sear to Aciphex...Seriously? Say it out loud...Ass-effects...I sear I am NOT lying when I tell you that the side effects include diarreah, abdominal cramps and gastro-intestinal farting...WHO IS GONNA ASK THIER DOCTOR FOR ASS-EFFECTS?!?!?!?
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Feb 27, 2010 2:26:44 AM CST
I apologize, but all of my vv's called in sick tonight...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
and the fuckin' lazy v's I hired won't even huddle up to fill in for them...I hate the Internantional Letters Union...
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I take back everything I said about the letter V... You can't really have Victory without it...Or, a vasectomy...Or Vampires...
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every one of the seven continents, when you exclude modifiers like North and South all begin and end with the letter A, ecspt for Europe...which also begins and ends with the same letter, just a different letter...AsiaAfricaAntarticaAustrailiaThe two America'sAnd then, EUROPE...There's a lesson to be learned here...
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entered the still running holodeck program…“This is Fuckin’ CREEPY,“ Ensign Ted Kord remarked. Giant scorpions manned thousands of rows of desks going as far as the eye could see each chittering excitedly on the phone to seemingly no one… “What the Fuck?” asked Teddy. “Man, Lt. Call is as 'Bug Fuck' crazy as I am about my favorite fictional 20th Century crime fighter, the Blue Bee…”“Teddy,” Water-Shit interrupted his friend…”Before we begin our usual holodeck program, I have something to tell you?”“Hunh?” Teddy‘s eyebrows knitted. “I have not been completely honest with you.”“Again…Hunh?”“All these months of playing out your hero fantasies here on the holodeck have been successful…I believe you are now ready…”“Ready? For what? Dude, are you tryin’ to tell me you’re gay or somethin‘..?“No, Teddy, I am the Efftard…Koo Koo Ka-Chew. And You are the Ted Kord…the Blue Beetle. You truly did not die in the 20th century at the hands of Maxwell Lord. You were sent forward in time into an alternate reality to await this VERY moment…”Teddy backed a little closer toward the nearest scorpion’s csll desk. “What’s gotten into you, Waterman?”“There is a war coming…A war in which you are to play a pivotal role…You have the power of *DAYMAN* coursing thru your veins. You ARE the Blue Beetle…” And with that, Water-Shit began to shimmer and fade in and out of Teddy’s perceptions. “The magical mystery tour is waiting to take you away, waiting to take you awaaaaaayyy!!!’” he cried out. Teddy reached out and saw that his own hands were beginning to shift in and out of reality…“All You Need Is Love…’ Water-Shit shouted thru the silence of his disappearance from existence…As the epiphany of his sudden transformation filtered rapidly into his brain, Teddy called after his friend, “Love is ALL you need…!!!”And the two men disappeared from the holodeck….
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but, I had a chicken sandwich, too...
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This conversation has been great and all (and thanks for contibuting, everybody)...but, 13 beers in 5 hours is just not getting the job done... That's not even 2.5 beers an hour...
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time to reboot...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk2wViKSh_Mhttp://tinyurl.com/ksland
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God wants us off His planet.
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February 26th, 2010...Mac drove home in a blizzard, and when he was safely inside his warm hovel he taunted Mother Nature with a hearty curse...Beer Wars. "In dis cornah, wearing blue trunks, a' course, at 71 ounces, Testifying TeddeeeeeeeKordLives." ["Yaaah!," shouts the crowd, and a buxom blond bimbo in the front row coos.] "N'in dis cornah, in 'is unnerwear, at 216 ounces and rising, the champeen...Cheeeeeeeses of Nah...zah...reeeeeeeses! ["Yeeeeaaarrgh!!"]...All you need is three things. Kevin Costner. Wild Turkey®. And Vicodin®. (http://tinyurl.com/ycf3qkw) ...SNOW DAY!...Courtesy Toddlerapoo, a Celebrity Lullaby. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc20vMz0V7Q) ...white_vades watched (500) DAYS OF SUMMER but got no post-movie nummies. He liked KICK-ASS and MOON...He and Flick get all bromancy over the late, great Jim Henson...Kids entertainment is a lot better when the kids have good tastes...Flick claims he's been using the phrase "poking the grizzly" since he was in art school, all to avoid paying me royalties and then admits to poking an aardvark once...Stabby rates GAMER ★★☆☆☆ ½...'Lop thinks Captain America would be impossible to cast...Editing. Quick-cut versus seamless. Is there snobbery against action movie editing at awards time?...ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY's countdown of "25 Greatest Working Directors" (http://tinyurl.com/ydoq634) ...D.Vades backs out of the upcoming "Some Guy" episode, and Sixies steps up in his place...Food-esque stuff in cans (http://tinyurl.com/yddmbhx) ...Vades schools me regarding Lee Daniels directing resume...George Clooney's girlfriend. I still say she's hired cover. George's one, true relationship is with the potbellied pig. (http://www.wwtdd.com/2010/02/and-this-is-why/)...Who is Adam Shankman? I'm told he's the producer of this year's Oscars...Will Marc Webb make Spider-man emo-ier? Will he make Zooey Deschanel dye her hair blond?...Series hates on SHUTTER ISLAND...I hate on THE WRESTLER...Teddy sneaks in and scares Flick...The guy who wrote a bunch of prime-time soap opera is writing THE FLASH. Soundblaster worries a TV writer might not grasp the mythological elements that elevate superheroes..."You're So Vain" is about David Geffen, according to Carly Simon. Considering that Carly Simon still thinks anyone is interested, the song might as well be about her...Mac rates COP OUT ★★☆☆☆ ½...Cobra--Kai rates IN THE LOOP ★★★★★...New Prince with a "Let's Go Crazy"-ish vibe. (http://tinyurl.com/y9n9oay) ...6:51:18...Teddy makes a joke about Ebert's condition and worries about his karma...Vades theorizes Capone hasn't reviewed COP OUT because he doesn't want to lose favor with Kevin Smith...white_vades is approved for landing @ The Shelter. (Sorry about the delay. I was absent last night.)...EffDub returns as EssDub???...Cheese makes it a lot easier for me to track down the links to Peebers' original Pedalback posts. Thank you, Cheeses...
The Shelter is our Pedalback Google Group - an archive for the best of our weird ramblings and a place we can reconnect if we're ever Banhammered or forget our keys at AICN. You can request membership @ http://tinyurl.com/yz3kena. You will have to be registered at Google for membership, but you can register anonymously. Be sure, however, to use your AICN handle as a nickname when registering, so we'll know who you are when you knock on the door. Once inside, look for the "Read Me First" thread which will shrink you to the proper size so you don't embarrass yourself at the Tea Party... -
"You get a jaw, and you get a jaw, and you and you and you get a jaw!!!"I'll DVR it, and it'll probably devastate me.
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http://tinyurl.com/yd2mlc6
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http://tinyurl.com/y8vfh32
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http://tinyurl.com/yerx39n
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Please tell me Cheeses story is in the Shelter... I found THIS thread, but I have no idea where we were before this.
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GOODFELLAShttp://tinyurl.com/yhkaf3b
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I went to bed immediately after my post, apparently. Sorry I missed you.
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http://tinyurl.com/ydt3u6r
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Missed me trying to vend off [deleted] 2 bullsh! at the top.Gonig back, you might've missed some of Cheeses' "Pedaltrak: The Next Generation," which will be up at The Shelter once it's done.You missed Teddy making an insensitive joke about Ebert's lower jaw.You missed me hating on THE WRESTLER.You missed weird CGI gay-porn, uh, sorta, that savagedave shared.You missed Mac shoveling snow.You missed Flick hating on TARZAN.You missed us, and we missed you.And other stuff.Not necessarily in that order.
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Do you want to wait for the whole "Pedaltrek" thing or do you want to catch up now?
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http://tinyurl.com/yd6fack
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...I'm working on a little suh-in suh-in of my own... I am gratified to see how many meaty roles there are for a Waitress in fiction of all types, though. Pretty cool.
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The woman in the chimp story. I've got links to sEe what she looks like now. DON'T LOOK!!!! supes and he-man I still respectfully disagree with D.Vader on Frankenstein THE PRINCESS AND THE FROG WAS GREAT! A picture of the chimp lady's face. (tinyurl follows.)
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Shit. I LOVE to hate on that movie. And I really do frickin' hate it.
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THE WRESTLER is my favorite recent example of how easy it is to get attention by making an Opposite Movie. (Nolan also gets rewarded for this.)Aronofsky simply, lazily took every Sports Movie cliche and did the opposite. ROCKY made boxing "glamorous?" THE WRESTLER goes with the ugliest sport imaginable. In BREAKING AWAY, the heroes win the big race? THE WRESTLER, we'll give him a heart attack. In whatever, the jock tempers his machismo to get the pretty girl? THE WRESTLER, he won't.The problem with Opposite Movies is, once you've realized it, the film is just as predictable as any other formulaic thing - it's just the opposite.
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for playing ugly and self-destructive. He IS ugly and self-destructive.He owes his Oscar to the casting director.
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I don't go into the theater expecting PINOCCHIO every time I go to see a Disney film, any more, either. I can see Flick's criticisms with the Disney formula writ large in PRINCESS & THE FROG. It seemed oddly-paced to me, as if they were sacrificing story to get to the next musical number as quickly as they could. And, lettuce face it, the girl-power theme isn't for me, anyway. But, the characters, every one of them a "sidekick," in Flick's sense, are beautifully drawn - one or two of them even break from the traditional "big eye" mode - and the setting is gorgeous in every frame.I saw it in a theater full of pre-schoolers, and some of them were dancing in the aisles. How am I gonna hate on that?
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sitting here in The Pedalback, talking to myself."Self, go watch a movie or something. At least take a shower, you smell funky.""I haven't even eaten lunch yet.""You're a loser.""Am not.""Are so."
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...(doesn't that give you warts?) yet. It might turn out to be a heartbreaking work of staggering genius...and if it is I'll say so. My complaints about recent Disney started as an explanation for why my desire to see it is so flaccid and limp.
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Here's something to put a smile on your face... particularly Waitress...
http://www.rosspatterson.com/
"Fighting Nude Like Viggo" -
...PROMISES.
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...Frog is such a blatant metaphor for pretty girls having to come to grips with the ugly truth of male genitalia.Come on baby, kiss that frog.
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The Princess And The One-Eyed Trouser Snake?
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Feb 27, 2010 12:44:23 PM CST
lets try again...Morning/Afternoon, friends and neighbors...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
Subs, I waited up til 4 am and you never even called to say you wouldn't be coming home...
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...if you get to know him...you might even start to think he's cute after a while.And if you give him a kiss now and then you'll have a handsome prince for the rest of you life...sure, he'll always have that slimy frog in his pants...but I'm sure he has many other fine qualities...
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Besides Chile, I mean....
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...my porch down to bare wood and repainting it this afternoon.Not exactly shakin', but it's progress...
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I got to build 3 4'x4' stages this afternoon for my daughter and her friends...if they ever wake up today...they party harder than I do...I don't know WHAT time they got home this morning, but it was definitely after 4:30 AM...
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100227/ap_en_ot/us_oscars_hurt_locker_violation
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...my house was built in the 1830's...you should see me pointing stone or plastering nude like Viggo...
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...is a retired Broadway set guy...he REALLY gets into Halloween.
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Sure, it's one-sided, depressing, but that's life sometimes. I'm probably one of the few that thoroughly enjoyed Pi, Requiem for a Dream, and The Fountain, as well.
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a 3'x 3'x 21/2' box with a 4'x4' plywood top...they need to be light enough to move around the venue several times and solid enough not to, y'now, collapse...Dancers really hate it when their stages collapse...
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wrung out of the following story RE: 3-D. http://tinyurl.com/yaz37w6
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Sean did....and is it just me or do you guys think avatar and hurtlocker are gonna cancel each other out and precious or blind side is gonna sneak past
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http://tinyurl.com/y9trrnp
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There will be no "The Proposal 2: Electric Boogaloo" starring Sandra Bullock anytime in our future...
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fully-dimensional Sandra Bullock. Yippee.
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to be alive and a serious movie fan.
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"The Vagina Monologues" in 3-D...Most of them though will be disappointed when it isn't what they expected and find not a single vagina is shown in ANY dimension...
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RS a bust EW gold..
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Subs, glad to hear you chortled away at IN THE LOOP too. You saw it at the movies right? Just wanted to mention that there are also 'many' deleted scenes on the home release, that are funnier than the majority of comedies out there - so might be worth renting it also for a second look.
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8========================DI think it was TehCreepyThinMan that did this but i liked it anyway.
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I laughed through every second of it.I missed the deleted scenes, though. I'm not one for checking the extras. I missed out.
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In response to my post about putting Sigourney Weaver in a new body for Avatar 2. He said "I'd like to put myself in Sigourney Weaver's body," then posted the penis. I responded "You just got Nav'i'd"
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http://tinyurl.com/yz3kena
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Oscar predictions 20th anniversary issue, the year animation was reborn etc etc
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right past the Oscar section. I read Uncle Stevie and the soundbites. Done.
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Rockwell was good in Moon but the movie didn't do much for me. As a first time effort for Bowie's kid I thought he did a good job. I think due to the fact that I sit in a station all by myself it was a little to close to home. I want my movie to keep me company not hold a mirror up. It was good. I think under different circumstances I would feel different. Travolta "playing tough" in 123 was painful to me. Denzel "playing frumpy" was lack luster. I recently watched to original and didn't think this did much to take it to the next level.Between Cop Out, Moon, and 123 it was a pretty meh movie day.
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you have to have a horse in the race (I do not), you have to be excited about celebrity dress-up (I am not), or you attend a party and it's a big Super Bowl-ish social event (and, um, none of my friends are having a party).
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My free years not up til may...
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hardy fucking har.100% agree Subs. All the Oscars are good for is shining a light on some films that I hadn't seen. I will eventually see Precious. It seems like the kinda sadist sobfest the academy will splooge over.
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Yummy
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But, I'm not going to complain that hard.
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Those are films I like anyway.
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I'll be happy if [deleted] loses everything, just so then maybe people will shut DEƒUCK® up about it being the greatest thing since a boy's first look at a naked girl's lap. But, they won't. They'll just whine about how they were robbed, and Oscar is still out of touch, and their pussies hurt, and old people are gay, and young people are cool, and they can't wait to see a blue cat with a Kardashian-shaped ass. Besides, contrary to my reputation, it brings me very little joy to root against things.
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I was trying to make a joke about not having any homosexual friends.
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Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Next up---blue cat with kardashian ass....hmmm but which one???
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You mean which ass? I thought they all bought their asses at the same ass store and had them installed by the same ass mechanic.I'm a little ashamed that I even know who the Kardashians are and that they're known for the shape of their asses.
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I watch it with the wife
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Unless they're standing next to their husbands, of course.
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And watches inglorious basterds and hurt locker...so we're kind even
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The ridges on their foreheads, of course. Oh, wait, that's the Cardassians.
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Gonna Hulk out tonight for sure. What's the appropriate liquor, tho?
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She makes you watch reality TV that rots your brain. You take her to decent movies (as well as bad ones, don't front). Even if you took her to see [deleted] twice, I still don't see how that's "even."Sixies, seems to me you got two options: You can continue to blame the wife for your watching reality TV (not fair, bucko), or you can encourage her to step up her game (for her own good).
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Because I like the way it goes down.
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Baby steps....baby steps
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Then she's good, bro. She can force you to watch "Tool Academy" and "Celebrity Rehab," now that she's given up "American Idol."That's huge.
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Clementines.Super sweet tangerines.Yummy.
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Feb 27, 2010 4:42:46 PM CST
...I think as a society we're burning through Kardashian...
by flickapoo
...sisters too quickly. I mean we're on what, the third one now?We have to face the fact that our resources aren't unlimited...if we haven't already, then some time in the near future we're going to reach Peak Kardashian, and it's all down hill from there. Once you've passed the half-way mark of Kardashians there will be a little less Kardashians every day, and prices will spike...eventually leading to civil unrest.It's the same story over and over. When will we learn?
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http://tinyurl.com/yawhwb6
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...the old saying is true...Gin makes you sin.I think because compared to other forms of alcohol, it doesn't make you sleepy. Intoxication - lethargy = sin.I always keep a bottle around for emergencies.
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http://www.cocktailmaking.co.uk/displaycocktail.php/2487-Kermits-Third-Leg
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it's all that Redbull...
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...success?
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Couldn't get a hold of anybody with keys to the place where I have to build them...Doin' it tomorrow...How was your naked strip-n-stain®?
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...done, and I peeled back some of the shitty aluminum siding and confirmed that the original wood siding is in fine shape, so that will be next.We bought this old place by accident...I've been chipping away at it ever since...but work came to a grinding halt with the arrival of Babyflick.
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don't care too much for the sound of power tools and hammering...
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There may not be any Kardashian for future generations. Think of our children!
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6:51:18
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...don't want to turn her into a Kardashian.
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Feb 27, 2010 5:30:07 PM CST
...although, I don't care how dumb and artificial she is...
by flickapoo
...that first Kardashian sister is fucking hot.It's not like I'm looking for a relationship or anything.
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Oh.1. You're married.2. You need to have more respect for your dick.
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Rushdie...Padma Latch-key or something like that...
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Yeah, she looks like she'd be fun. But I think she's, like, 6' 7" or something.
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......to stretch the metaphor, she (Mrs. Poo) knows she's the equivalent of fillet mignon, with fresh mâche salad, and a bottle of Brunello di Montalcino.Candy is great, but you'd never really trade down for a Hot Tamale®.
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...no?
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...what did you think?
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So, I make myself this nice big salad for dinner. Slice up all the vegetables. Fry up some shrimp to toss with it. Reach into the fridge for the bottle of salad dressing. And ruin the salad by squirting BAEBEQUE SAUCE all over the damn thing!
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...it hurts.
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Feb 27, 2010 6:27:15 PM CST
Captain Subtitles and Bi-polar Waitress entered the grand ballro
by cheeses_of_nazareth
There was a band playing softly and the sound of glasses clinking together and quiet conversation permeated the air…Subs immediately saw the Baleback Ambassador and his Documentarian. “Ambassador, Mr. Vader, how good to see you both. Allow me to introduce our ships Chief Barkeep, Bi-polar waitress.” “Vader, ma’am. D. Vader. A pleasure …” Cobra Kai only stared at her while his hood began to flare. “Bi-polar Waitress does not exist in this Dojo!!” he yelled. Captain Subs stepped between the waitress and the snakeman…”Perhaps we should mingle.” Subs took the woman’s arm and led her away. “What was that all about,” he asked her.“I have NO idea…” she answered. “Men are strange.”“Ah, Captain,” came a stately voice to his right. Subs turned to find the Ambassador from Krypton….“Ambassador Colon El…How good to finally meet you.” Subs offered his hand to the tall man who took it and then began to crush it into powder…”“Oooooch!!!” the captain yelped, which caused the Kryptonian representative to release his hand quickly…“Sorry, he apologized. “You must be using yellow sun radiation in your lighting systems…”“Why of course,” Subs rubbed his aching hand. “Almost all of our Pedalback worlds are from yellow star systems.”“Of course, its just that I’m off world so little I forget…yellow sunlight does strange things to my people…”Yes, I, …uh, ouch, I see…”Lt Series 7 had picked up a violin and First Officer Moose picked up a trombone and they started playing a crazy rendition of “Hail to the Chief.” A trumpet blasted from the main entrance and all heads turned. Lovely handmaidens with baskets full of flower petals entered the room throwing colorful petals into the air followed by 12 white doves that flew from the entrance. Then and only then did he enter to the fanfare…”Ladies and gentlemen and others, put your hands together for The Pedalback Federation‘s premier Ambassadors to the STARS…..The one, the only Continentalop!!!” The applause was thunderous as the revered peacemaker made his way into the room swishing his long regal cape around him theatrically. Continentalop walked strait to the podium after shaking a few hands. He held up his hands to quiet the crowd.“Welcome fellow peace lovers,” the charismatic handsome man began. “First, I want to welcome the esteemed Ambassador from the Great Baleback Empire, Kobra Kai….“ Polite applause. “And , I also wish to thank the ambassador from Krypton, Colon El who has agreed to mediate.” More applause. “Colon El’s people seldom leave their homeworld, which is probably a good thing. I mean let’s face it, folks, if his people ever get a hold of Earth’s sun tanning-bed technology, they’ll conquer the alpha quadrant in under a week …” Nervous laughter and less applause. “And finally, to my good , person al friend of many years, Captain Subtitles off and his wonderful crew, thank you for such an enjoyable and comfortable trip.” Much and loud applause. Subs smiled and waved at the crowd. Suddenly, out of the corner of his eye he thought he saw something oddly out of place. He turned and saw a small hobbled Portuguese man wearing shabby clothing and herding three pigs. He looked filthy and more than a little crazed. Subs looked around for Cammander Stabby, but did not see him anywhere in the crowd. When he looked back the man and the three pigs were gone.
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Feb 27, 2010 6:55:54 PM CST
Cheeses... I didn't think the Star Trek thing would work...
by friendlywaitress
but I'm loving this so far. Makes me double-think my whole diner-at-the-edge-of-nowhere installment...
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Braised chicken with herbs Provençal, served au jus over creamy polenta. The side tonight is roasted carrots. I recommend a pretty little Monastrell from Jumilla.
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Feb 27, 2010 7:02:38 PM CST
Thanks, BiW...here's a recapt to before the last installment...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
Previously on …PedalTrek: The Next Generation…Captain Subtitles Off and the valiant crew of the USS Gary Oldman have been given the delicate mission of transporting three disparate Ambassadors to a Pedalback Federation Summit on Nazareth in the Misogyny System. First Officer Moose is a genetically uplifted Caribou with digitalized fingers. Lt Stabby is a large dangerous alien Chief of Security. Flickapoo is ship’s Counselor. Series 7 is an advanced android. SixDemonBag is the shamanic Chief Engineer. Dr. Morbius is Ship’s medical officer, young Ensign Ted Kord is navigator and Taking Scorpio’sCalls is an insane microbiologist officer who spends WAY to much time running arachnid telemarketing programs in the holodeck. After appeasing a disgruntled and paranoid ambassador Cobra Kai, the ship was attacked by a giant amoeba named Dirk who disappeared after being posed some soul searching questions. After that incident, Stabby went to locate the AOL Lt. Calls on the Holodeck. Teddy and his best friend Water-shit Anderson have a reservation at the very same holodeck suite resulting in hilarious misunderstandings. Captain Subs visits Bi-polar waitress in 10 forward and learns her origin and more about the inhabitants of the Misogyny system. He asks the waitress to join him at the reception for the Ambassadors….Meanwhile Water-shit has a startling revelation for Teddy in the Holodeck…
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...image of super Kryptonians zooming around with yellow-sun based desk lamps duct-taped to their foreheads and shining back at them..."what to you think honey? See, it makes me super!...he? Cool, right?"
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Feb 27, 2010 7:29:41 PM CST
SIgn up now and you will get a hundred free arachnid
by takingscorpioscalls
but call now because supplies are limited. 5 4 3 2 1.
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...oh, wait...[fumbles, adjusting tape and neck of lamp, finally settling on a skewed arrangement, tape slipping down and partially covering one eye]...baby?, I'm super!...baby?..."
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You haven't signed up yet at The Shelter.http://tinyurl.com/yz3kena
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Feb 27, 2010 7:52:52 PM CST
HHHAAA!!! Flick...Their sun lamp induced superpowers...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
are only limited by the length of the extention cords they have at their disposal.
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Am I an idiot...so I go and read eberts reviews pretty much evry week and I JUST realized that picture is ebert....he's got no jaw and I've known that for a while... I just didn't put two and two together
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I can't recognize the current Ebert from his old photo, either.
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in Dick Tracy 2: Bigger, Longer and uncut...
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..hold it right there PruneFace.Now I'm PruneFace.Stick em up Dick Tracy.Now I'm Prune Tracy.Stick em up Dick Face.Man the Simpsons are good.
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My shot of choice is one my brother and I made up. Half Baileys, half RootBeer schnapps. We call it the Solomon Grundy. Sometimes I'll line the glass with 151 to make it more manly. Couple o them and you talk like him.
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What's a Sinestro...1/3 Strawberry soda, 1/3 Pinapple juice, 1/3 tequila (gold)
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1/3 apple juice, 1/3 light beer (or Iced Tea), 1/3 Jack Daniels
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2 oz Captain Morgan’s Spiced Rum
1tbsp Sugar2 L bottle of Mountain DewAdd the Captain Morgan to a glass with sugar, then add Mountain Dew until the mix turns green....Found that one on line...
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Iron Man Cocktail3 oz Seagram 73 oz Vodka Soda Water
IceMix the Seagram 7 and vodka add ice cubes, then fill with soda water, and stir gently.
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4 oz Aristocrat Vodka5 oz Cranberry Juice 3 oz Milwaukee’s Best Ice Lager
Stir in a highball glass, and swing away. Give about ten of these to your worst enemy and watch the hi-lar-ity ensue.
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...I mostly drink stuff straight. If the whiskey or rum are really cheap I'll maybe add soda, rocks, and a twist.Maybe I'm just ignorant and lazy.
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2 oz White Rum 4 oz chilled Mountain Dew Code Red4 oz chilled Red Bull energy drink
Stir and serve.
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and i think you got a winner. The Captain America.The Red Skull: Burst Hot Damn Cinnamon schnapps with a dash of Tabasco on top.
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6 oz Orange Juice1/2 tsp Grenadine 1 Orange slice
Pour juice and grenadine into Collins glass that is filled with ice cubes. Stir well, and garnish with orange slice?????
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otherwise i'm up all night pissin. That's manly and pussy all at once. There's a dyke joke there somewhere.
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2 oz Midori Melon Liquer2 oz Peach Schnapps3 oz Orange Juice 1 oz Pineapple Juice 2 oz Cranberry Juice Layer ingredients in order in a hurricane glass, and serve unstirred for a pretty looking drink, just like the Amazon princess.
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Jim Beam on the rocks with a Redbull chaser...
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these need to be compiled in the shelter.BTW. I aint drinking anything with Mountain Dew or Red Bull in it. Sounds like babies first cocktail. I also hate the word cocktail.
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1 oz Gin3/4 oz Dry Vermouth 1/2 oz Apricot Brandy 1 oz Mandarin Juice 1 tsp Grenadine Syrup Mix ingredients and shake with a glassful of ice and pour into an old fashioned glass – because, you know, Superman is so old fashioned
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plus i find it to sweet.
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Yeah....cause I got that shit handy.
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1/3 part Midori Melon Liqueur 1/3 part fresh Orange Juice 1/3 part 7-Up Mix ingredients in order, shake once, and pour into a hurricane glass.And, I would add, drink within 24 hours and stay away from yellow things...
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1 oz Vodka 1/2 oz White Creme de Cacao 1 oz Cranberry Juice Shake all ingredients with ice, strain into cocktail glass.
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back in a half
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One can of Busch Light Open can and drink.All, except the Capt America and earlier postsa are brought to you by...http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/15644.htm/
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1 can Blue Demon energy drink6 shots espresso3 shots vodka...
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Everclear and just enough cranberry juice to be crimson.
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Grey Goose vodka and Bicardi Silver...
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1/3 orange juice, 1/3 Mineral water, 1/3 Jaggermeister...On the rocks...
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Which of these are actual drink recipes and which are made up?
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1 can of Redbull4 cups of coffee1 bottle of '5 hour energy'2 lines of cocaineA half a shot of EverclearDrink then jog to mix liquids...
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did a half gator off a building.Things Mormonism isn't covering:Plastic SurgeryDiet PillsDepression
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Cap, Collosus, Thing and Flash...The rest I found googling 'Superhero drinks'...
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Because HE WOULDN'T DRINK!!! The first characterally correct cocktail! AHA HA HA AH AH AHA HA HA AH AH AHA HA HAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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... refers to the hangover you will have after drinking two- count 'em, TWO- of those. Holy shit.
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2 oz Bacardi 1511 oz tomato juiceset on fire
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Feb 27, 2010 11:03:57 PM CST
The FLASH is proof that Cheeses is a sadistic sonofabitch
by friendlywaitress
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you can tell cause they sound disgusting.Except the Grundy.That one rules.
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I was ScaryWaitress then...
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Sunday is PB day. I expect to see you all at brunch, looking sharp in your Sunday best...
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make sure it goes up alright.
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I'll bring the mimosas and monte cristos
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JLo has the weakest fucking voice... WHY does she insist on singing? Seriously. She's dance-pop vocalist level, at best. NOT Beyoncé-level, not even fucking Ashlee Simpson level. WHY does she insist on showing America the real her, with a heartfelt ballad like this????? Oh, and P.S, that was a fucking Hallmark-card song. That is all.
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Jaggermeister and Liquorish Shnapps...Leaves you speechless...
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Feb 27, 2010 11:20:07 PM CST
And, on all of y'all's shopping lists... CUCUMBERS.
by friendlywaitress
You heard me. To EAT. Not in a dirty way. "WHY, Waitress?" you ask... And I shall tell you. In rhyme. Drunk a lot, my good friend... Of the liquor? Need to mend? Need to calm aching head, Need to get out of bed So to face the bright day? Too damn bright, so you say? Eat some cukes to get right. They have electrolytes. I'm not kidding. It works... Or, you could DRINK LESS, you jerks. Seriously. Eat a whole cuke before bed. You'll feel better. Unless you're 12 beers deep. Then you're fucked. (Sorry, Cheeses.)
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one pint of unpastureized milkone shot of Abstinyth1/2 quart of vodkaone tube of super-glue
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Wasn't able to go in spoiler free, but I enjoyed it a lot.
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1 oz. Grenadine in a lowball glass
Fill with Ginger-Ale Garnish with Maraschino cherry and small black plastic spider. Serve to nearest 5 year old girl. -
Spiderman. It turns to "webbing" in your mouth. eeeewwwwww.
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16th beer alert...Don't weep for me, Scary...liver failure would be a blessing at this point in my life...Besides, Gatoraid also has a lot of electrolytes, and I drink a SHITLOAD of that stuff...And for the record, I haven't had a hangover since the Clinton Administration...
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...8 oz. unpasteurized milk.
3 oz. Hershey's Chocolate syrup.
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Makers Mark on the rocks.
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or the made up ones. Funny!
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Courvoisier. fuck that wasn't hard at all
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the awkward feeling of a homosexual propositioning me WHILE curing the hangover. It was a wild night OK.
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...12 oz. kerosene.
4oz rubbing alcohol.One match chaser.Record all you lines quickly before ambulance arrives. -
Drop a shot of Canadian Club into a pint of Molson XXX.Feel your brain jump out of your head.
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24 oz. Reyka "tastes like Iceland" vodka 1 ice-pick through the eye socket shake well (or jiggle, as preferred) and serve... well, whenever you remember to... huh. I was doing something... before...
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oop..sorry..I stepped on your toes there Cheeses.
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Courvoisier. Fuck, that's NEVER difficult.
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A Prophet (Un prophète) is a French crime film that came out last year and is finally getting released now in the States. It is directed by Jacques Audiard, the man behind such noteworthy films as Read My Lips and The Beat My Heart Skipped, and his streak continues with this one. It is in fact nominated for Best Foriegn Language Film this year and I think that is a shame - it should be nominated for Best Picture. Hell, it should WIN best picture.
The film is the story of a poor, simple Arab youth who is sentenced to six years in prison and while there becames the lackey to a Corsican mob boss. But it is more than just a prison movie; it is a grand crime saga like Godfather, GoodFellas and City of God. It is also a metaphor for something deeper: how Arabs, now matter how hard they try to assimilate, are always looked at as outsiders in French Society and the consequences for excluding them.
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I should have just ignored this car wreck. I hate myself.
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1 shot Bicardi Black Lable1 shot Jack Black12 oz chocolate milkOne case of cat-scratch fever...
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3 parts HARD liquor 1 part HARD liquor ½ part Lillet 1 twist of lemon (you know, to show his softer side.) Mostly, it's about the HARD bits. Mmmmmm... Daniel Craig....
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"Mostly, it's about the HARD bits."
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Robin Hood: http://tinyurl.com/ybt9jpk
Clash of the Titans: http://tinyurl.com/yz69mpk
Brooklyn's Finest: http://tinyurl.com/yl5buzn
The Crazies: http://tinyurl.com/y9hbesx (I'm a sucker for the Andrews/Jules version of "Mad World")
Defendor: http://tinyurl.com/yzp27qu
Mother: http://tinyurl.com/yl7xsg4
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...1 part HARD liquor.
2 part HARD liquor.
3 parts HARD lickher. -
12oz Guinness1 dash Hershey syrup 1 shot Jack Daniels
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...watch out for bad guys, guys.
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Liquer in the front, poker in the back...
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before Cop Out and I am even more juiced for the movie. It looks GOOD.
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...8 oz. Canadian Club whiskey.
32 oz. Foster's Lager.
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Do you know how to invisotext???
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I used my iPhone.
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at the 18th Beer Warning...
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£>*€~?€^~?!£*%#{\|£^~?! gdc
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is a lot. Hope you're not sick tomorrow.
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i hear it does wonders for a hangover
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cat dick - rat dick x 3 squared / by ratlo nopic a ga. Napic. Nopic.
I'm filning a nopic lipic about around nobic lobic lemrin habit. Capic.
Already..aright just kidding haha. ok for serious lets get for real. I'm a silly guy but not that silly.
The movie is about how sometimes you think doors are closed but then you look back/ They are open again.
Alright..enough bullshit. Finally lets get real.
Little hillside gonna make a big one. LIttle change his style. New pants. Make them grey. Dont mess up the pleats. I"m going to cry.
Your the best girl I have ever known and I'm going to tell you things the way they are in my head. I am not going to pull punches I am not going to lie to you. I'm going to marry you. I will carry that gray and dingy lunch pail through snow and hard times thick and not so. My heart is for the wind of your soul.
So now you know me. Cold to the touch, I apologize but things have been lucid and my eyes are sharp. However far discussion of juxtiposition and differential causers of beauty can lead I will not take more of your time.
Lets rob a bank. Lets make our helicopters gold plated. I'm going to cold plate my soul. I'm going to rivet my auto. I'm going to aught your aught nine. I"m going to show you a good time. I'll buy you a ten moon flush.
Whimsy the flack. Enough about me, lest narcissa's wind catch the hour.
Ten stomps in whatever direction. None too soon for your inflection. Puts wind in me sails...catch?
Daaga. Daga. Damda.
A numer sum value o'r dinosaurific hath terrickle me clabber.
German beer. Thats the stuff. -
So bats has got to vist it the old grandma and of course shes in the home and chomping on her gums and making drool marks on her sleeves. "Yucky’ battle brains thinks and wow smelly like old toast but hey its his grandma. So bats does a little pregaming, knocking back a few so the smell can’t get to his nostrils and hes like what do you old fartfaces do around here tell jokes and play backgammon? And the tv is fuzzy and bats is adhd’ing and saying wheres the shows grams? And grandmas got other things on her mind like has bats found that special little lady to make a man out of her boy but you know that makes battlemaner sheepish and he gets red as the questions get too close for comfort. And bats is skwirming and shaking off questions left and right but then wouldn’t you know it but batmansters cell goes buzzing off. Shit, any other time but now. Its Janie and shes saying “bats yo pick me up some 2% at the drive along' and battles like bitch your making this relationship look like the real stuff and grammys smiling her gums and naming grandkids. Whispering, unnecessarily into the phone (seeing as how grammy bats can’t hear worth dick) to Janie bats says ‘ yeah I got it babe’ and hangs up. Grammy whitle waynster manster is sayhing oh I’m going to buy the prettiest little dress for little battle girl when she is born and bats is like yeah just give it to my little basterd shit robin he’ll where it the little fairy. And he can’t take any more of this shit so he leaves and doesn’t feel bad about it. You can only take so much toast-smell. He punches 2 % milk into the naviboard on the rocketpod gps and cracks open another brewski. Fuck it.
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"What else is on your mind, other than 100 proof women, 90 proof whiskey, an 14 carat gold?""Amigo, you just wrote my epitaph."So..I think my dick got 2 inches bigger from just watching this movie. I went from the three movies that didn't move me yesterday, to today finding ONE that knocked my socks off.Conti's list of 10 underrated classic westerns had me jonesing for some six shooters. I typed a couple of Conti's titles into Netflix only to find I would have to wait to get them in the mail. Well, I don't have any patients for that shit, so I went looking for instant gratification.When you see Lee Marvin, Burt Lancaster, Jack Palance...you know you can stop looking. I had no idea what I was in for.Ralph Bellamy's millionaire, J.W. Grant hires Lee Marvin, Robert Ryan and Woody Strode to rescue his kidnapped wife from evil Jack Palance (doing a spot on Mexican). Lee Marvin is gonna need help from his old buddy Burt Lancaster (an explosives expert)to get the job done.This is a mission movie that you know is on a different level right from the get go. When Marvin's weapon expert/tactician pulls up in a model T we know it's more than just your "classic" western. Woody Strode is the scout that shows us there is more than one way to kill a man with a bow and it has nothing to do with arrows. Lancaster explodes on the screen louder than the t.n.t. he throws around and he might make it through the movie if he can figure out how to hang onto his pants. Seriously, when Harrison Ford was getting ready to play Han Solo, Burt Lancaster's Bill Dolworth must have been on his mind. Dolworth is a money focused, scoundrel with a million dollar glint in his eye.Smokes are rolled, whiskey is guzzled and no woman with anything less than D's are let onto the screen.If you haven't seen this movie make it a priority. I wasn't aware of it and I am ashamed of myself and mad at everyone who never forced me to watch it. An enthusiastic 4 out of 5
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Where does he get those wonderful toys?
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A buncha superheroes walk into a bar...
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Feb 28, 2010 9:35:00 AM CST
...thanks Mac. I was all the way upstairs and the computer...
by flickapoo
...was off...I came down and restarted the damn thing with no pants on...just for Hugh Jackman.
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...how's the cucumber?
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An app called Emoji. It's free.
Isn't it the ?
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...they look cool, like those Chinese domino pieces...I figured it was a Bale thing.
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I liked the Professionals, but not quite as much as you (3 out of 5 for me). I see it as the bridging point between Clasic Western and the modern Western (Wild Bunch and Butch Cassiday and the Sundance Kid being the start of the modern era). And it does have Claudia Cardinale. Fucking hot.
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All your symbols look like little Japanese wood-blocks.
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Only we iPhoners can see them
Oh well. -
Superhero drinksMac and 'Lop's reviews added to Archives @ ☆☆RIGHT-BRAIN CINEMA☆☆™Starting Pedalbacker's Secret OriginsMore Batmanster, though that might take a little more time (I've got diarrhea's crazy Batmanster chapters scattered in documents all over the place and have to collect them properly)And other stuff as it pops up
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I think I'm getting good at it.
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Have fun gentlemen.
Subs I saw Un prophete last night. Check it out if you can. Great (in the truest sense) movie. -
serial-killer whales, 'Lop.
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... You're grown people".You weren't kidding...good work!
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If any Peeber can direct me to the approximate date they joined up on The Pedalback, it'll be a big help. Otherwise, I've got nearly 60K posts to search through. I intend to find everybody, but it may take some time.At least Toddlerapoo's grandkids will be able to check it when it's finally done.
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Feb 28, 2010 10:37:38 AM CST
...hey, I think there used to be a History Of in The Shelter...
by flickapoo
...with all the nodes. I was going to give you an exact time and place, but I can't find the Glorious History...gone? Moved?
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...of coming and going in all Talkbackdom as I saw fit, but I got officially hooked on Pedalback in the Inception Posterback.First words "he looks like a Viking"...then wandered back in at Dec 30th, 2009
01:48:42 PM.My big weepy [deleted] review and Stefania sealed the deal. -
of JettL, back when he was Numbers9997http://tinyurl.com/yfmgg7wSeriously, a jackass pretending to be an insider, advocating Firefly as the only villain who could "up the stakes." Who else could that be?
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I'll add that one, with the caveat that if I find you anywhere earlier, having crossed our path, the earlier post will take official precedence.
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Feb 28, 2010 12:22:37 PM CST
...weirdly, I don't think I stumbled into you guys very...
by flickapoo
...often. I usually avoid overly long talkbacks. If I have a half decent joke I don't want to bury it in some 2000 post BATMAN Ragnarok.I generally like to get my hits in early.
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CITY OF GOD... mini review.
As mentioned before this is a movie i've put off watching for a good few weeks now but finally I bit the bullet and checked it out.
In short, it's SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE meets GOODFELLAS and in many ways an extremely good film. I wish i'd seen it prior to SLUMDOG cos I had it backwards in my mind as to which movie was ripping off which, and like Danny Boyle's Oscar Winner the color, the vibrancy, the danger, and in particular the sweat of the slum are ever-present. CITY OF SWEAT might have been a better title.
It's a powerful movie rather than an entertaining one, with an extremely high body count (including women and children). In fact one horrible scene has a hood being initiated into the gang by having to shoot a child. And this is probably the biggest problem I had with the film. While I admired it's audacious editing, direction and strong 'sense of place' I found it hard to watch these gang of villains killing each other. Yes, you see them first as children (the film spans a couple of decades) and you understand why they're so callous but that doesn't make them any more likeable. It also doesn't help that the 'lead' character in this ensemble piece is a blank canvas. A quiet guy who takes photographs but doesn't have much of a personality. Of course, he's meant to be the 'audiences eyes' and views things dispassionately but it doesn't give you anyone to 'root for'.
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Subs I'm probably the newest PBer all around. I'm sure I've accidently stuck my head in before but I have only been actively seeking and participating in it for like 4 weeks now. i don't now the exact node. i had no idea it was so serious.
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Flicka, yeah pretty low. Unless either partner has a sweat fetish...
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I think that condition is called a sweatish.
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Spike Lee's DO THE RIGHT THING was always a fave of the sweatish crowd.
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Pet the sweaty stuff...
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I had just come off of a huge smack-down with Jaka over [deleted] on another thread, and had basically given up on interesting discourse on AICN until [deleted] was old news... and then, on New Year's Day, I found y'all. Jan 1, 2010 @ 11:01:05 pm. I could be wrong, but this was the first time I think I actually stumbled on you guys.
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http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=126441
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Now the sky truly is the limit in 3-d technology...http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18581-3d-display-made-of-flying-pixelcopters-in-the-works.html
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FITZCARRALDO is great ...by ColonelFatheartJan 11th, 2010
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Did you catch your first appearance in Pedaltrek:TNG? It was yesterday at 06:27:15 PM...
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Feb 28, 2010 2:59:33 PM CST
I've been away, but I'll go back, of course, to check it out.
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Man, slogging through 7000 posts id a CHORE! Totally worth it, though.Thanks, noobs, for your first posts. I'll add them soon, before getting back to The Golden Age. Right this second, my eyes are having a Civil War with my brain.Also found a bunch of other cool stuff to link at The Histroy. Scorps first "drawing." savagedave's first live-blog. Appearances by Original Balebackers, Hawaiian Organ Donor, DGDB and Stuntcock Mike. 'Lop's first, furious attempt to defend "Robin" in The Nolanverse.
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as the rallying cry?
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I'm going to make minor, minor, minor spelling and grammar corrections to "Pedaltrek" before I archive it, unless you say "Nay!" How many more chapters, you think?
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I could be mistaken, but I think that was around November, or so, when he first wielded that line.
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Chapt 1) Feb 22nd, 2010 01:55:52 PM Chapt 2) Feb 22nd, 2010 02:50:32 PMChapt 3)Feb 22nd, 2010 03:48:03 PMChapt 4) Feb 22nd, 2010 04:50:53 PM Chapt 5) Feb 24th, 2010 12:06:10 AMChapt 8) Feb 25th, 2010 05:07:35 PMChapt 9) Feb 27th, 2010 03:27:25 AM Chapt 10) Feb 27th, 2010 06:27:15 PM
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Feb 28, 2010 3:12:45 PM CST
I've been reading regularly, Cheeses, until this weekend.
by colonelfatheart
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I make a shit load of silly typos...
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Chapt 6) Feb 24th, 2010
01:42:33 AMChapt 7) Feb 25th, 2010 04:24:58 PM Chapt 8) Feb 25th, 2010 05:07:35 PM Chapt 9)Feb 27th, 2010 03:27:25 AM Chapt 10) Feb 27th, 2010
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pretty obvious. Anything prior was pure coincidence.http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/43951#comment_3150770
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Feb 28, 2010 3:23:31 PM CST
Gosh, Subs...remember how excited we used to get...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
everytime we passed a thousand mark? Reading that all back a couple days ago made me realize how far we've come...
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The Empire [deleted] forum we raided that day with the Balebackers...Fuck that shit was funny, ganging up on their lone defender, Hobocode...who oddly enough appeared on the pedalback before ANY of us...July 24 02:21:10 , he beat Sixes by 7 minutes....,Anyway, Empire deleted the whole thing by the next day and I don't think anyone thought to preserve it...The preparty and afterparty are still up at AIBN...
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This headache is killing me. Type at y'all later.
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Weed works wonders when I get a headache...and, I seldom have headaches due to my regular weed intake...
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Then I won't recommend GOMORRAH, which I think is a six-star film.
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Once past 5K, we settled down a bit. Now, we're all blase about it. 50K? Really? Whatever.
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Feb 28, 2010 3:40:10 PM CST
I'm having a hard time conferring Peeberhood. There are a lot o
by subtitles_off
who were there at the beginning and contributed mightily but then disappeared. There are some who weaved in and out. I'm sort of restricting it by what I remember which prolly isn't the fairest way, but it's the best I know how.Wouldn't mind a little more help on it, though. I'm up to August 12th.
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Back in a bit.
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Where can we meet at the shelter? Main thread?
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I'll read them as soon as I get back from chores.
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finally got the keys to the place I have to build stages for my daughter and her friends...back after dark...
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http://tinyurl.com/ydv3rek
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I look at Alice and feel like I have seen this before already. i really don't even care about it. i'm sure it will be a fine movie. For once I would like to see Burton put all of his style and such aside and just make a movie that is based in reality and see what he comes up with.I guess if it aint broke don't fix it but...Johnny Depp again...really?
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He needs another ED WOOD. Something serious. Lay off the fantasy for awhile. We get it. You have an imagination.
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Everything was just the way I liked it.
It was a late afternoon at the diner; my favorite time of day. The sunlight streamed in through the wooden blinds and gleamed on the creamy tabletops, with their chrome trim. The smells of fresh chicken salad and French fries mingled with hints of ice cream and cherry pie. Barry Manilow tunes played softly from the speakers in the ceiling. Perfect.
The lunch rush was a distant memory, and dinner was hours away. Only a few customers sat at the booths, and one of my regulars-such wonderful regulars- sat at the counter, sipping his cup of coffee. I stood by the oven, waiting just another few seconds for his slice of pie to be perfectly warmed. He didn’t ask me to do that, I just knew he liked it that way. I wasn’t doing it for the tip either, although he always left a good one…they all did. Rutger. Christophe. And… HIM. I just couldn’t believe my luck, that HE was here four afternoons a week.
The timer went off, and I pulled the plate out of the oven and sashayed my way to where he sat, reading his script.
“Careful, monsieur. Il plate chaud.”
He looked up at me with a smirk. “I like it when you try to be funny.”
“Oh, I’m hilarious. Ask anyone.”
Henricksen looked around, then back up at me. “Eh. I’m too lazy to get off my ass. Guess I’ll just take your word for it,” he said with a grin. Behind me, the bell on the door jingled as someone came in.
“Oh, no, she’s plenty funny,” came the voice from behind me. “Just ask her for a Limerick.”
That voice. I knew that voice… I couldn’t place it. It felt as though it were coming from a long, long time ago, but I couldn’t put my finger on it.
“I don’t recall asking you, friend,” Henricksen replied, a little coldly, I thought. Huh. Weird. He was always SO nice to me…
“Now, now,” I answered lightly. “Everyone’s welcome here… as long as they eat something, anyway. What can I get you?”
He took a seat at the booth in the corner, and eyed the menu.
“Watch out with that guy,” Henricksen growled. “He’s trouble.”
“Oh, come on, Bishop. In broad daylight? What’s he going to do, stab at me with these dull-ass knives?”
He caught my hand as I moved away, which was… odd. He had never laid a hand on my before. “Just be careful, kid.”
I smiled as I looked into those enormous brown eyes, like warm chocolate, and patted his hand as I pulled away. I had no idea what the old guy was getting on about. It was a perfect day, like the day before that, and the day before that. Nothing goes wrong here.
The newcomer tossed the menu to the side as I came up to the booth. I couldn’t help but notice, he didn’t even glance at my boobs. His eyes locked with mine. “So, what can I bring you?”
“Well, Stabby says the calamari here sucks… so I guess I’ll just have a slice of what he’s having,” he said, and jerked his thumb towards the counter. “ And a cup of coffee.”
And then I knew who it was.
“Subs.”
“Waitress.”
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Feb 28, 2010 5:56:24 PM CST
Any relation to The Restaurant at the End of the Universe?
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Subs, I did like CITY OF GOD, just didn't love it. I'm interested in GOMORRAH but haven't seen SODOM yet so might get confused.
MacReady, agreed enough with the Depp. Monopolies commission should investigate Burton cos that's not right.
Moose, ????
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Nice work, Bipolar Babe...MORE, please...
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Didn't get to finish my stages though, my drill gave out on me. But, I got all the lumber cut and give it another swing on Thursday...
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Just spent two hours editing at The Archives and some glitch kicked me off, and all my changes were lost. THAT'LL TEACH ME TO SAVE AS I GO!!!
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You're... umm... actually saying that out loud? Wow. Tee hee...
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Have a beer on me.
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..in the meantime? I love the tales of fiction we have going here now but I'll be honest, I'm much more interested in the "real life saga" of the poor belly dancers with no stage. Fraught by obstacles of dead drill batteries and drunken carpenters. Will those poor girls ever get their stage? Tune in next time........
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Feb 28, 2010 7:27:33 PM CST
Who was trying to post Gary Oldman Origins to The Archive?
by subtitles_off
That person is on my shit-list.
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Yeah, I say "rots" now. I'm bringing it back.Thanks for all the attention over at the shelter Subs. I'll thank you periodically so it doesn't turn into a "thankless chore". Just mildly obnoxious.
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Aren't you and Subs the only ones with the ability to post shit?
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Lance in the mix aint hurting either.If this is 3 posts in a row then that means break time for me.
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How the fuck are all of you good people?
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I'm not going anywhere for some time.
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Same 'ol business- been busy over the past 3 weeks, got one more project I have to finish up by Saturday and after that, I'm a PBer in full effect again. I loved Floaters, by the way.
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I just watched The Professionals so I am thinking western for the next one.
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...Some Guy And Some Other Guy. http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/44024#comment_3164677
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@Cheeses- what major developments have I missed? I see Scary is now Friendly.
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And I saw, and behold a syphillitic donkey: Zech. 1.8 ; 6.3 and he that sat on him had a drill; and a dead battery was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
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How you be? I'd kiss you on your pinky ring if you had... a pinky ring.
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Subs said he had some shit get erased on him at the shelter.
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Brought to the West by way of Slavic gypsies. Cursed from the waist-down by a fortune teller who sought to amuse her grandson, Pyotr.
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...which is attached to me front left hoof.
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I re-named her Bi-polar Waitress in my latest Pedalback story...There is a posting list of the Pedaltrek:TNG at 03:10:38 PM earlier today...
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Subs asked for Gillian Anderson and he got her. I can't promise that we all won't get syphilis though.
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http://tinyurl.com/yaeub92
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I appreciate the help. I'm mostly mad at myself for not saving while I was working. I thought it was doing it automatically, but all of a sudden, it went wonky, and I lost everything. I don't think it likes two people editing at once.Live and learn.
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Our shipment of Swiffer™-Fluffers® are securely on board.
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Feb 28, 2010 8:17:23 PM CST
Mac, that video sadly reminds me that nothing is sexy anymore
by yackbacker
Nothing titillates like it used to. 2 girls 1 cup has ended all human mystery for me. And the petabytes of free porn that we've all viewed in the last several years. Sad.
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suck a dildo like lady and the tramp on pasta doesn't mean I don't like sexy ladies in videos too.
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...I'm trying to think of something funny...but my mind just went blank...
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Quintuple Ds... kids in Ethiopia look to her as a symbol of all that is glorious in America.
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they are just straight up glorious, and by straight up i mean my cock.
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...I knew The Tramp was cooler than me...but if I could just get her alone...I'd draw her a picture or something...
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...it's just sitting there. Staring at me.
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...watch out for bad guys.
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Lettuce remember that we are sometimes in the presence of a lady.
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There's a video that I'm terrified of playing. If you told me it was a clip from the new IRON MAN picture, I might have pressed "PLAY"...
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cause i'm insecure.
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The resolution was fuzzy, so I wasn't quite sure what I was looking at, but my imagination was filling in the blanks in ways I couldn't deal with.
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I fear the day I have children with this internet thing hanging out there. I find it a miracle that any of these kids graduate middle school, let alone high school.
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Hypertranny.
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-Franklin Roosevelt, Dec. 7, 1941
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Feb 28, 2010 8:54:09 PM CST
Sometimes, I'm certain we've reached the apex of shock.
by subtitles_off
And then, the next day, 'moose links me to some insane video! HA!
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Too much engineering.
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“You really should come by my place in Pomona, “ Henricksen said. He said that almost every time he came to eat, in fact.
“I would really like to see your work. Your OTHER work, I mean. I tried ceramics, a long time ago. It was not pretty.”
“I have a hard time believing THAT,” he said with a grin. I rolled my eyes.
Across the room, Subs sat there, in the booth, sometimes eyeing the parking lot, as if he were expecting someone. Mostly, he watched me talk to Henricksen… or rather, him talk to me. I mean, we always chatted- and he was delightful, and kind- but I got the distinct impression that he didn’t want me to leave the counter. Unfortunately for me, being a waitress, this was unacceptable. I picked up the coffee pot and patted Lance on the shoulder. “Be right back, Bishop.”
Subs watched me as I picked up his now empty plate. “More coffee?” I asked.
“Come on, Waitress. Sit down for a minute.”
I shot a quick look at Lance… he sat at the counter, reading his script. Good, I thought… maybe he won’t notice. He’s such a worrywart, anyway. I set the pot down on the sideboard and slid onto the edge of the seat. For a moment we just sat there.
“Look,” he said, “you know I’ve always got your back, Waitress.”
I smiled then. “That’s a strange thing to say. Why would you need to?”
“Some of the others… well, let’s just say things are different since our rumble in Chicago.”
Chicago. Chicago… I tried to remember. I saw vague, misty images of a giant, blocking out the sun… my breasts smashed up against someone, the smell of beer in my nose…
“And so Jett came from the blood of the head of the demonian, a giant of the human, ridiculous one he consumes. But he is defeated by good power. And the saintly ones brought up large discussion, and it was many joys…”
“Ha. So you DO remember. I thought so,” Subs said as he sipped his coffee. “Some of the others think you’ve lost your mind. I knew better.”
“What are you talking about? Look, I’m happy now. It’s quiet here. No fighting. No flames. Just pie, and coffee… and Lance Henricksen.” I sighed. “He’s so NICE. You know he does pottery?”
“Waitress,” Subs said, leaning forward, “I want you to be happy. We all do. But are you SURE this is what you want, is all I’m asking.”
The sound of tires on gravel pulled our attention to the parking lot. A car pulled in, a goddam El Camino, with… in the back… was that a moose?
Subs looked back at me, reached over, and grabbed my hand. “Because if this is what you want… like I said, I’ve got your back. You know that.”
I looked at Subs, and felt a warm glow of happiness as “I Can’t Smile Without You” floated down from the speakers, like music from heaven. Peace and love filled my soul; I felt like a flower in the first warm sunlight of springtime. I could feel the glow spreading outward from my chest, into the swells of my breasts, cupped in the snug, soft pink uniform I wore.
“Because of one entirely, and because of everything one… commonplace, it is sad, being stale, being fair, it confronts the clear lame swaying, it is connected…” WHAT DID IT MEAN? I wondered, even as the words left my mouth... but then, there was no time to think about it. The others had reached us.
“Knew we’d find you here, mate,” said the first one as he slid around the curved seat to Subs’ side. His eyes locked on mine… after the obligatory glance at my boobs. Men, I sighed. Silly men. “Thought we’d been over this, Subs.”
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Oh Japan.
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Have any of you seen this?!? http://tinyurl.com/m4d9le
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Well done, 'moose. Totally worth trashing two hours of my work. Besides, I'm so anal I had kept written notes, so I was able to pedalback fairly easily.
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Paradise. I love it, Waitress.
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Starring the Indian as...The Indian.
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Don't anyone tell her. I'm warning you all.
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loving it. LOVE-ING IT.
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I'm definitely going to track this down. Stay tuned for my review (love the French, they still make films!).
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looking forward to it. I had forgotten though.
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on the Olympics...HHHHAAAA!!!! What a HAM!!!
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What the fuck are "Marvel Giclees" at the top banner? What the fuck is a giclee?
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Seriously, it's just a print from a digital source.
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See? It's in French, so they can charge more. WORD OF WISDOM FROM AN EX-PRINTMAKER: giclee = crap. If it ain't a lithograph, it's not worth your hard-earned cash. Period. NO MATTER WHAT THE ART DEALERS SAY.
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She gave me the best giclee of my life for only $10.
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well done moose.
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Thanks, Yack. But seriously, who would pay for that?
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from last August when "GaryOldman" made his debut appearance.
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Subs, you got's sum mail, Boyyyeeeeee!!!!
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overpriced french bullshit. Thank god for our eclectic blend of sophistication and asinine self gratification. I'm in that second category
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I used to collect that kind of junk years ago- limited edition prints, etc.- it's about "owning" something. I've ebayed a lot of that stuff since then- scratched my head and thought "what the fuck, Yackers?" at about 75% of my once-beloved treasures. I fully recognize now that it's a Peter Pan thing. The emotional gratification of buying something ridiculous is a way of holding onto one's childhood sensibilities. What's funny is that some folks display that syndrome with other things like really expensive clothes or cars, etc. It's all rooted in the same thing, I believe. But Marvel Giclees are a harmless, if overpriced, extravagance. Those fuckers working for Citicorp and AIG... they're the ones that really like to blow cash.
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its funny. He sits, cross legged, on the floor right in front of the tv like a little kid playing classic video games and listening to 80's music. It's like he is reliving his 13th birthday over and over. He just drinks beer now instead of kool aid. fuckin weirdo.
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and impulse buying...Retailers and advertizing magii know EXACTLY how to manipulate the child in all of us that buys SOLELY on impulse...True story...
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and isn't constantly wanting to talk to you about their day...As the roomate/landlord of my 24 year old daughter, I should BE SO LUCKY!!!
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He wanted me to be his roomie; he loved eating Yodels® and Ding-Dongs or Ring-Dings, I don't know what the fuck they're called. Anyway, I declined, but a friend of mine ended up moving in with this dude and it was a disaster. They were friends from childhood and now they don't speak to each other anymore.
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You have a kid that wants to communicate. That's a good thing. Look at the Marie Osmond situation, that's the other extreme.
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That was ver sad about the Osmond kid...I only ever complain to her when she obliviously interrupts my TV viewing...which is a sad reason, too...But, a kid's also gotta learn tact and when to open their mouth and when to wait...It's a double edged sword.... The rest of the time I listen and am either interested or convincingly feining interest and offer opinions only when asked.Telling a 24 year old young woman that they are making horrible decisions where men are concerned shuts them right down...
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Stephen King books. I had gotten back into his stuff over the summer and bought maybe a dozen of his novels that I hadn't read yet. I've gone through half of them since then and the other half are chilling out until I get some free time again. I definitely didn't need to buy all of those books up front, that was a Peter Pan moment.
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It sounds like she values your opinion, so you've earned her trust and respect. A lot of parents suck at that, it's no small accomplishment you've managed.
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She IS probably the best thing I ever did with my life...It's been a long winding journey, but I wouldn't change a thing...Except to be richer...12 Stephen King novels, you'll get about 7 novels worth of story and 5 books of filler/atmosperic hyperbole...I mean who was gonna EDIT King in the mid-to-late 80's...
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It was a pleasure getting back in the groove. In a week's time I'll be fully free and participatory again. Cheers!
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I feel I let you down cause I went to eat while you were here.That means you gotta come back!
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Even after you lost those hours of work...Thanks...
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I don't get to the theaters much (a kid doesn't allow much free time), so I get movies from the library (free) so it takes me awhile to see "current" movies. Here's my mini review for two I saw this weekend:
Napoleon Dynamite - 3/5. Funny characters, no real plot. Just have to watch for the geekiness of the characters.
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Spider-man 3 - 3/5. I thought this was actually pretty good. I know a lot of people hate it. I thought it fit well with the others, and "emo-Peter Parker" didn't bother me much because I knew it was the symbiote making him act like that.
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scorps first drawing? what the??
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Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow: 3/5 I quite liked this one. Very stylish. Took me a bit to get used to the artistic special effects. Nice to see a different take on the 30s serial.
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I was holding back cause I thought this was a dance recital for young children. I'm absolutely enthralled now. What is to become of our poor belly dancing girls with no stage to shake their bellies on? Please keep me posted Cheeses. What kind of drill do you have. Mine is Dewalt. I can over night you the batteries if it helps. We have to get these girls going.
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out a representation of...um, an appendage...um, squirting...um, on a...um, chest. It was the first time anyone'd done it in The Pedalback, although we've had fun doing similar recently.
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Sorry STLost. Just funnin ya.
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The show isn't until March 13th, I think...(It's the Sat after March 11th, which is my daughter's B-day)... Meanwhile the bellydancers will continue to practice on the ground floor in my living room every couple of days til then...
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...is it actually belly dancing or is that just what YOU call it cause they are dancing and you can see their stomachs? Is it more of a hip-hop, pop-lock thing that the kids are doing these days or the actual finger cymbals and veils and shit?
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Average. At least he didn't rent any stinkers. Every time I'm watching a Netflix movie I dislike, I have an argument with myself."Self, no one's forcing you to sit through this whole thing. There is an eject button.""But, Self, maybe it gets better.""OK, and maybe you'll heal in a couple days if I poke myself in the eye.""Why would you poke yourself in the eye? That's pointless.""Is it? Or, is it exactly my point?""I paid for the damn thing, I might as well watch it.""Self, you've watched 18 movies this month. I don't think you have to worry about getting your money's worth.""Shut up, Self.""Shut yourself up, Self.""You first.""..."
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http://www.vimeo.com/3306358
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but i usually end up punching myself in the balls. I don't take no shit from myself.Kiss Bang is a 4 star movie.
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The sun'll come up tomorrow, as the annoying little brat sings.
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That's why I wait for movies to come on TV so I can change the channel if I get bored. Even then, I see movies sooner than STLost...
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That's why I wait for movies to come on TV so I can change the channel if I get bored. Even then, I see movies sooner than STLost...
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You're at at LEAST 17, and we all know it, Cheeses. Anyway, g'night, gents. Chapter 3 comin' at ya, bright and early...
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and not attached to the horse the black man was riding. Good belly dancing though. Tell me your daughter isn't caught up with this Brian Sort person. If so you either have the iron will of Mel Gibson or it justifies the 15 beers you just alerted me to.
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and by "iron will" i meant the restraint it would take not to bash that dude in the face with the butt end of a Maglight.
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Jerod Costa. Bash him with the Maglight.
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he has no interest in my daughter other than as a prop piece/Actress...He'll probably be a major director in the 2010's...My daughter is just hedgeing her bets...That short actually won some local school and community motion picture competitions...
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Feb 28, 2010 11:32:13 PM CST
I got to watch my daughter on a full Motion Picture Screen...
by cheeses_of_nazareth
it was during the competition/awards ceremony, but,seriously, how many people can say that?
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I'll be on the look out for Mr. Costa's work in the future.
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Right out of school i decided my goal was to see my name on a movie screen. I didn't realize that if i just got people coffee and let them yell at me i would get my name on the screen for a one time only local screening. it wasn't as hard as i thought it would be. I then realized my goals where fuckin stupid. I got my grandfather in the movie though so it was definitely a blast seeing him on the screen.
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One of my good friends when I lived in Las Vegas was an extra in 'Thelma and Louise' in the Country Western Bar segment...Sadly, that was eventually the proudest moment of his life...
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http://www.eggwork.com/autobank/index.htmIf you cross reference my email at the shelter with the crew names you can figure out what i did on this short. to bad they won't let you just play the thing. wtf. i never caught it on Comedy Central though.
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I just saw her in The Lovely Bones and thought she was hotter than ever. I never even cared much for her.
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'The Hunger'...And, 'Bull Durham'...I would SO fuck the Susan Sarandon from 'Bull Durham'...
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http://tinyurl.com/35emp3
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1 Solomon Grundy and 1 Nick Fury later and i'm doing fine.
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http://tinyurl.com/6m3mw9
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Used to be that guy...
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Gotta be up sometime tomorrow...
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Ah yes Subs thank you for the rememberence.
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From Russia With Love BOnd movie had some good belly danacing.
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Mar 01, 2010 7:22:39 AM CST
Thanks to my [beeep] toddler, I'm the only one awake...
by friendlywaitress
lucky me. It wouldn't be so effing bad if I had some coffee. Which I don't. God damn it.
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February 27 - 28, 2010...Saturday...'moose ended up thinking COP OUT wasn't as terrible as expected...Cheeses has fun with letters and drops another chapter of "Pedaltrek: TNG," in which Teddy and diarrhea speak in Beatles lyrics on the holodeck...Naked CGI dudes in jock-straps, chasing down a criminal, I guess (http://tinyurl. com/ksland) ...Massive earthquake in Chile..."The Frog Prince" is a fellatio metaphor?...Ebert will be on "Oprah" on Tueday..."Where Are They Now?": The cast of GOODFELLAS (http://tinyurl.com/yhkaf3b) ...EffDub tries to catch up after a few days absence..."Fighting Nude Like Viggo" (http://www.rosspatterson.com/) ...Flick has some stripping to do on his porch. The old lady next door with the binoculars is woe to find out he means removing the old surface to prepare for re-painting...Cheeses is supposed to build some stages for his daughter's belly-dancing troupe, but he can't get into the building...A producer of THE HURT LOCKER talks smack about [deleted] which is an Oscar no-no, possibly providing the excuse everyone will need to explain giving the award to the mega-gazillion stupi-fi blockbuster instead of, you know, something deserving (http://tinyurl.com/y9uvvfo) ...The Future of Movie's So Bright, I Gotta Wear 3D Shades (http://tinyurl.com/yaz37w6) ...Mac had a "meh movie day," watching COP OUT, MOON and THE TAKING OF PELHAM 123..."Having an Oscar party," not that there's anything wrong with that...Sixies wife does not make him watch "American Idol," so he's not going to complain too much about the other stuff...Teddy buys an Incredible Hulk shot glass so he can get piss-faced angry with some gin...Will our generation burn wastefully through all the Kardashian, leaving none for future generations?...Barbequed salad, yum...Another chapter of "Pedaltrek," as the crew and guests assemble for a big ceremony, and Cheeses recaps the story so-far (http://tinyurl.com/ybnk7hu) ...Kryptonians travel with sun-lamps attached to their foreheads and capes made out of tanning beds...Fighting crime, shit-faced: Superhero Drinks...Eating a cucumber before bed will cure a hangover, says EffDub, poetically...'Lop reviews "Un prophète," a french crime thriller and gives it the highest recommendation Sunday...'Lop's runes ...diarrhea shares a poem and BRAND-NEW BATMANSTER!!!! (http://tinyurl.com/yc9q6l2)...Mac reviews THE PROFESSIONALS ★★★★☆...The Secret Origin of JettL (http://tinyurl.com/yfmgg7w) ...Cobra--Kai isn't all that impressed with CITY OF GOD, which is too sweaty for post-movie wokka-wokka unless you have a fetish for that sort of thing ★★★☆☆...University of Texas students trade religious texts for porn (http://tinyurl.com/yjesmj6) ...Scorps head spins like Linda Blair's...Scientists are developing more 3D bullsh!, wasting tens of millions of dollars that could feed the poor to create little helicopters that display pixels so that they can recreate the shape of your hand right in front of your fucking face. (http://tinyurl.com/y9ho86c) ...Modern Age Peebers' Secret Origins...'moose translates Batmanster's latest in Engrish (http://tinyurl.com/y8f3hyx) ...EffDub begins "The Diner at the End of Nowhere" with the first two chapters...Cheeses' drill is flaccid...Mac wants to bring back the expression "rots," as in "That rots."...Yackbacker suggests Mac put a syphilitic donkey named Darius in his next western story, and then he kisses 'moose's pinkie ring...Eddie Van Halen plays his guitar with a power drill (http://tinyurl.com/yaeub92) ...Titilatio...Hypertrophy genitals? Oh, Japan, sigh. (http://tinyurl.com/ygotg9j) ...A TOWN CALLED PANIC - changing the game with a truly immersive experience that will engorge your humor genitalia (http://tinyurl.com/m4d9le) ...Giclees are over-priced computer prints. Like a digitally produced lithograph, except, not like a lithograph in any remote way, digital or otherwise...The Psychology of Collecting and The Peter pan Syndrome...STLost borrows a lot of movies from the library, including NAPOLEAN DYNAMITE and SPIDER-MAN 3 and rates 'em all ★★★☆☆...Cheeses' daughter, dancing in a video (http://www.vimeo.com/3306358)...Mac lectures his goals and tells 'em to get their shit together or get out of the house...Mac worked on this short film (http://www.eggwork.com/autobank/index.htm) ...Susan Sarandon, hotter than ever...
New members! New reviews! New Archives! New Japanese weirdness! Lots of updates to our Pedalback Google Group - an archive for the best of our weird ramblings and a place we can reconnect if we're ever Banhammered or forget our keys at AICN. It's the only place you'll ever be able to find the complete Pedalback sagas! You can request membership @ http://tinyurl.com/yz3kena. You will have to be registered at Google for membership, but you can register anonymously. Be sure, however, to use your AICN handle as a nickname when registering, so we'll know who you are when you knock on the door. Once inside, look for the "Read Me First" thread which will shrink you to the proper size so you don't embarrass yourself at the Tea Party... -
See you folks soon.
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And, I've got chores until noon.
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GET THIS BYOTCH AT 2000 NOW.
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Mar 01, 2010 9:31:48 AM CST
Dambit, I actually nodded off in front of Sesame Street.
by friendlywaitress
I don't care what anyone says, that Abby Cadabby is a whiny little prima-donna bitch. So is Elmo, for that matter. And I can say that. Those two are post Henson.
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DangerDave, SavageDave?
Either way, you said the magic word. Welcome to the club brother.
STLost, "everybody's counting on you" long time no see brother - how you doing? I hope you're not just popping in for a one-off. I want more random 3 star reviews. Like Meatloaf said, '3 out of 5 aint bad'. Keep 'em coming dude! -
Waitress, I remember seeing THE MUPPET MOVIE as a kid and the cameo by Big Bird broke my brain. He wasn't a Muppet, see, he was a Sesame Street. It was a crossover - before 'crossovers' even existed!
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Subs, you woke up with a bit of morning glory today... that Subbary was 'a big one'!
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Finally, on the subject of Susan Sarandon surely her hottest moment has to be ROCKY HORROR. She's a real prude but in bra and panties for almost the whole flick, and there's a great close-up of her boobs being squeezed during the 'Toucha toucha toucha me' song. Luvverly.
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Unlike the other two. And Baby Bay-oo is, quite possibly, one of the most obnoxious characters even invented, anywhere. The sound of his voice makes me want to stab my eardrums.
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...when you go back and look at the original gang, it's amazing how quirky and complicated they are.I've bragged in the past about Toddlerapoo's sterling taste in children's entertainment, but I'm afraid that after watching the new shiny stuff, she has a hard time sitting through an entire episode of classic SESAME ST.She loves watching individual clips on Youtube though...Yip Yip aliens, C Is For Cookie, and I love [bleeping] are particular favorites...
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Whoa Mamma. I piss off for a coupla days to do some work (oh the life of a freelance artist, working all-nighters and weekends), and come back to - WTF! I've heard of futa, but that video... I think hey, that'll be good for a laugh, and then I discover why losing your virginity is such a big thing for girls. Then I looked at Cheese's video and realised how traumatised I was because I was having flash-backs (geddit? haw!). Heaved the proverbial sigh of relief when I realised Cheesey's video was just a bit out of focus and his daughter only had a tattoo poking out of her pants. Holy moly. Futa after-shocks!
Subs, I'll get over there to the group soon. It's gonna be a hectic week from the looks of things. Might need to check in here though, I'm scared what'll happen if I leave for too long.
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...SESAME STREET man myself...with the exception of Kermit. That amphibian gets to come and go as he pleases...and is always welcome.
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Mar 01, 2010 10:32:16 AM CST
...morning white. Believe it or not, this is the first time...
by flickapoo
...Henson has come up since you were here last...lest you think I've been going on and on for the last 2000 posts.
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G'Day White_Vader you in Oz mate or are we just talkin like a couple of drongo's for nothing?
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...FRAGGLE ROCK movie? D.KRYSTAL 2?If it's the second thing I'm going to hunt you down and kill you out of pure spite and envy.
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I'd like to walk into Jim Henson's Creature Shop and start stuffing random Gelfling's and muppets into my shopping trolley before heading for the checkout.
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...for years I was always booked solid through Christmas and New Year's. Nothing like pulling two all-nighters on the 24th and 25th of December.I think it was a combination of the fact that I was just starting out, and nobody else wanted to work over the holidays...and that art directors were scrambling to get all their projects assigned before Christmas, leaving the illustrator to pick up the pieces.
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Cobra, don't you mean Moose's links? That's the one what scared/scarred me! Dancing daughters don't scare me too much. I've got twin girls so I endure it in stereo! Oh and yeah I'm in Oz, so I'm talking to you from THE FUTURE! Never heard anyone say Drongo in common usage though. It's like the whole "shrimps on the barbie" fallacy - we call 'em prawns, and who can afford seafood bbq all the time anyway? I blame tourism campaigns for propagating that shit - that means you, Hoges! I blame Hoges for Croc Dundee too. And Americans can blame him for that movie that Sandler ripped off where he's not-gay/gay. Oh and Croc Dundee 3 - you guys funded that shit!
Flick, sure S Street is the best - I get teary at "I don't want to go to the moon". They played it after Jim died and Oz said he'd never do Bert again. As for Muppets, here's one for ya - "Dr Bob! Dr Bob! I think we've lost the patient!". "Well he can't have got far, he was here a second ago!". Like Groucho once said (and proved repeatedly), it's not the jokes, it's the delivery... -
Im dying...got food poisoning or stomach virus of some sort. I feel like ! eff--for some reason I watched sesame this morn too..I didn't get far though...I rec the old school DVDs from the 70s. not as ADD rattled as now and it's got the OG gordon
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I've had arsehole marketeers tell me without a hint of a lie tell me I had to work allnighters - because they were going off on A SKIING WEEKEND and therefore I couldn't leave it ;til Monday. God I hate those fuckers.
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...not Fraggles...not Fraggles...not Fraggles...it huuurts...
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...it still hurts...
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White_Vader, yeah I was in Oz for New Years 1999 and as that clock ticked over it did feel like being 'in the future'. I felt if the Millenium bug was gonna strike then I ought to be close to the action when the world went all MAD MAX. What a disappointment that was... had my razor boomerang sharpened and everything.
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Anyway, my fave Aussie joke...
"What did Jesus say to the Abo's?"
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...I wanted to be dead.Watch out for...getting chunks stuck in your sinuses.
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Apologies to anyone of a politically correct persuasion... but you gotta admit it is pretty funny!
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Not a damn thing...too sick to argue but I see a goonies score is coming out...
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...not one thing.Shhh...you just rest now.Just rest.[dabs Pedalbacker's forehead with cool damp washcloth]
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...Pedalbacker's little leather bag, nervously]
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Just a blah feeling today.
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The Beatles decide to play on the roof.
http://tinyurl.com/ylfp78w
http://tinyurl.com/ykf6qw9
http://tinyurl.com/lqroar
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...you personally...or do you sense an approaching malaise in the air for all of us?
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Flicka, you've just restored my faith in humanity. I think that's the most heart-warming post there's ever been on aicn.
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If The Beatles decided to play on the roof of the dojo there's be trouble. For them. It's steep. And the pigeons up there take no prisoners.
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Mar 01, 2010 11:36:35 AM CST
What has two thumbs and needs another cup of coffee?
by friendlywaitress
This girl. Except that, fuck it all, I have no half and half to put it it. I cannot abide black coffee. Fuck.
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Ni Neibian Jidian2001. Mandarin Chinese. Subtitled.Directed by Tsai Ming-LiangWhen this film was released, many critics compared it favorably to the films of Ozu, Tati and Buster Keaton. They must've been fucking high! A mother mourns her recently deceased husband while their son wanders around Taipei re-setting clocks to Paris time because a girl he sold a watch to said she was moving there. Meanwhile, in Paris, the girl cuts her hair, flirts with lesbianism and won't blow her nose. Insufferably languid and morose, it's all supposed to be some thoughtful study on synchronicity. At any given moment, everyone, everywhere, might be lonesome. I get it. But, I needed footnotes for some of the references: That's the boy from THE 400 BLOWS, all grown up, as the man in the Paris cemetery, and the cemetery is where Truffaut is buried, and the guy with the clocks is watching THE 400 BLOWS. Does that have something to do with him peeing in a plastic bag? The critics say the imagery - some of it undeniably artful - will haunt you and deepen as you think about it. Unlikely. ★★☆☆☆ ⅓Next up...TIME OUT and (Netflix, be willing) PONYO.
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Mar 01, 2010 11:50:05 AM CST
Netflix willing. Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing Ponyo...
by friendlywaitress
...next year. Along with Inglorious Basterds. Netflix is screwing me left and right. The episode of the show I was streaming kept freezing, so I didn't get to watch it... and now that I'm not a new customer anymore, I've been moved off the "good" list or something... I used to get movies as soon as I requested them, no problem. Not any more, I guess.
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I haven't been a new customer of theirs four six years, and I hardly have any trouble, the occasional cracked disc and MOON notwithstanding.
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I need to either exercise, or nap. I got about 3 hours of sleep last night and am dragging ass. So, I'm going to go decide which of those to do, and do it. Catch you gents in an hour or so.
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And for once I woke up early, feeling an optimistic tingle.Quick EffDub, hit us with more "Diner at the End of Nowhere"!
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...as he slid into the booth. “YOU had,” Subs replied. “ And YOU agreed. I’m not so sure, is all. I’m just here to talk.”
“Talk? About what?” This one plopped down, his raggedy black trench falling open to reveal the image of a shark eating a boat on his t-shirt.
“D.Vader,” I said. He looked at me blankly. “Nice t-shirt," I said.
He looked pointedly at Subs. “SEE? She’s NICE now. Look, let’s just let this go.”
Subs looked at me. His hand still held mine, warm, comforting. Keeper of the order. A quiet mind in a storm of crazy. “This IS what you want, Waitress?”
I glanced over at the counter. Lance was gone. I hadn’t seen him leave. I felt a twinge in my heart… I had NEVER let him go without saying goodbye. NEVER. God, how horrible. I hope he didn’t tip me, I didn’t deserve it.
“Let’s GO,” Max hissed.
“No.” Eight feet of moose loomed over the table now… I wonder how he managed that without any of us noticing. For a large- um, whatever he was- he was quiet, when he wanted to be. “The others are coming. We can’t just leave her here, no matter what she wants. You all heard the 12-beer-alarm.”
The door opened. “They’re coming, Subs. What do you want to do?”
“I’m staying, Sixies. These are Pedalbackers. We can disagree.” The others looked at him in mild shock. “WE CAN DISAGREE,” Subs repeated, slamming his hand on the table. “I’m here to keep the fucking peace.”
Chopin’s Prelude 20 in C minor rained down from the overhead speakers. Could It Be Magic? Oh yes, Barry, it could, I thought. The warm glow spread through me. I stood and smiled at the gathering as I took up my pot, the sacred tool of my office.
“More coffee, gents? Or how about some pie? The cherry is fresh.”
The door jingled. The smell of beer wafted through the air.
“It SUUUUUUUUUUUUURE IS!!!!!”
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The cherry is fresh.I'll have apple. Can you melt a slice of cheese on top?
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between that and the belly dancing I don't know where to begin. What...Fraggles? No.
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I'm partial to blue myself, but I certainly see the appeal of cheddar...
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So wholesome and littered with degenerates all at the same time.
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Yeah, that sounds pretty damned good.
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"An apple pie without the cheese is like a kiss without the squeeze”
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I always stick to the same cheeses.Mozz, swiss, cheddar, parm. If I'm feeling rebellious, something nutty.
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In tribute to Gorillaz new album... one of my faves from their earlier shit - water_shit warning contains Del Tha Funky Homosapien:
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...next to Subs, and stretched his arms out across the back of the seat. “This is a damn pretty place you got here, Waitress. Now do like I tell ya, and fetch us some fucking calamari.”
I stared at him, perplexed. No one talked to me like that, here. I was a Goddess, here. Men came to drink my coffee, to eat my pie, to listen to me and pay their obeisence. This one was not like the others.
And, by the GODS, that smell of BEER…
“Come ON, Waitress Babe. I’m HUNGRY… and for more than yer titties, as it happens.”
I turned and went to the kitchen window, to place my order. I am a waitress. That is my office.
“Fucking ridiculous. In the old days, she would have knocked my head off for that… or, at least, she would have tried. And it would have been FUN.”
The old days. Ah yes. THESE, I remember. The days when rage colored my words. The days when the slightest offense brought out my fury. When my breasts- these sacred pillows of love- were weapons, and with them I wreaked havoc upon men. I turned.
“Those days are behind me, Cheeses of Nazareth. I am become FriendlyWaitress. I have no need of violence. It is not the righteous path.”
“Nope. No, it isn’t. But I’ll tell ya, the path of righteousness sure as fuck is the BORING path.” Cheeses leaned forward. “And I don’t think I should HAVE to be the only one to say this… but this whore didn’t lift a fucking finger to help us in Chicago. So I think it’s fair to ask. WHO’S SIDE ARE YOU ON?”
“We’re all Pedalbackers here,” Subs answered.
“Being a Pedalbacker is more than just being good… it’s about understanding the tragic, heroic side of life… it’s about principles, ethics. If you don’t have a point of view, why come at all?”
“Look, Flick, valid point, as always,” D.Vader snapped, “but if FriendlyWaitress is happy here, let’s just leave it this way. She was kind of a bitch before, you know?”
“ScaryWaitress wouldn’t have done what she’s done,” Cobra—Kai muttered as he slid in next to Cheeses. “She NEVER would have brought him back. That was bullshit. Even Conti said so.”
Ah, so this is it. The crux of it. They were angry… but I couldn’t be sorry. Just thinking about him, about the gift I gave of myself, and the warmth spread through me again.
“Jesus Christ, her fucking tits are glowing.”
“That is fucking HOT. Look, you can see her nipples right through her shirt…”
“Enough,” I said. “Because it was the correct thing where I should do that, it accompanied him and returned. We may advocate meaning. We may dispute. That is convenient, in addition because furthermore it cannot enjoy, it died and the lunatic saw and abnormality criticism. He was worthy of living.”
“What. The. Fuck. Did that mean?” asked Max.
“She’s an Oracle,” Flick started to explain.
“It MEANS, she brought Asi back because it was the right thing to do, or some shit. Which is BULLSHIT. He was disrupting everything with his crap. Come on, Subs, even YOU have to agree with that,” D.Vader grumbled.
“I still say,” Flick interrupted, “he’s always been crazy, and you have to know that before you engage him…”
“Look, THAT’S NOT THE POINT. She brought him back. Fine. But she didn’t do a fucking thing to help us. My point is, Scary was an ass-kicker. She fucked Oldman up something righteous. Friendly is as useless as they come… like every other fucking female. Shit.”
Cheeses sat up, leaned forward over the table, looking me in the eye. “You want to hang out here in your sweet little diner, listening to this easy-tunes CRAP, then whatever. Good riddance.”
“Just tell us one thing, before we go,” Flickapoo asked, folding his well-muscled arms over his pecs. “Did he at least apologize?”
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shitty animation like Dr. Katz. Time Warner just upped the cost of pay cable so I am on the verge of canceling everything. I'm soaking up all I can before it's over. Only problem is that the whole reason I got HBO was for The Pacific and it starts soon and then I'll be roped in. This is the game these cock suckers play. I don't think it is a coincidence that the rates go up right before the show I wanna see starts. Fuckers.
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Mar 01, 2010 12:58:06 PM CST
Mac, just wait for it to come out on DVD. Fuck HBO.
by friendlywaitress
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Waitress, you're a fast typist!
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Nice to see you again. Yes, the baleback...the stuff of legend. Good times.
Oooh, I made a Subbary too!
I'll have more 3 star library reviews coming. I'm picking up "Children of Men" tonight and have reserved "12 Monkeys", "Moon", "District 9", "Star Trek", "Zombieland" and "Reservoir Dogs" (I've seen R Dogs, but it's been awhile) -
that is why I have 250 impulse buy giclees.
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just list 3 star movies. If it wasn't 3 stars I don't wanna know about it. You wouldn't have to write anything at all. Just a list of movies with the understanding that they were just average. I don't expect to see Children of Men in there however.
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I thought you were calling Waitress a fascist for .05 seconds. Then I realized my malfunction, and got a good laugh out of it.
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is that fast? i thought it sounded fast. I don't know what the high water mark is for typing.
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It's the high-end for a fascist.
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+a+fast+typing+speed
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Watched "Inglourious Basterds" from the library.
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STLost is also an enigma. A glorious one. In this particular bermuda triangle could both SPIDERMAN 3 and CHILDREN OF MEN rate 3 stars? I know I speak for all of us when I say we look forward to finding out!
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See, mention Hitler and 33 seconds later you have a 3-star review of INGLORIOUS BASTERDS. That is synchronicity. Uncanny.
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check yous later.
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I do think BASTERDS is beyond 3 stars. But I don't want to mess with the equilibrium STLost brings to the PB.
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'Dominos'..this is an anthemic track I can't seem to shake out of my head, you can listen to it here or d'load for posterity...
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that is a good song that YOU WILL NOT HEAR ON FM radio...i heard that nugget on XM for free..
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what is this place? i thought i was getting another award...sure i guess i can talk about acting...
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You know, I sat behind Lucas a couple of weeks ago at the Golden State Warriors/Sacramento Kings game. His seats are on the floor, and mine were Row 5, but I walked right past him. I was inches away from him. It felt just like when I was in presence of Al Davis. As much shit as I talk about them, I was still in awe. By the way, "The Maker" looks like he's been making a few extra trips to the buffet. He's a gigantic fatass now. I wish I was the type of psycho who is loser enough to actually approach celebrities, but I don't want to bother people. Plus, I don't think that is something a grown man should do. But, if I did approach him, I wouldn't be vitriolic. I would just ask him politely to stop. Just...please stop.
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According to this article from BBC.co.uk, the Indiana Jones trifecta of Ford, Lucas, and Spielberg have agreed on a potential storyline for the upcoming 5th Indy film. While the article does not reveal any specifics of the storyline, it does provide some concrete evidence that the film is indeed moving closer (ever so slowly) to the finish line and should be gracing the silver screen for Indy fans (hopefully) in the next year or two.
See the excerpt below and then point your browser HERE for the rest of the article.
"The Hollywood actor says he, director Steven Spielberg and writer George Lucas have come up with a rough outline for the follow-up to Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
He said: "Steven [Spielberg] and George [Lucas] and I are sort of agreed on a germ of an idea and we're seeing what comes of it."
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I need another Indy movie like I need another hole in my penis.
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...good sense.It's like cinema verité in here...Scary gets her facts straight. I'm impressed.
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just as long as I get my omelette with buttered rye toast and well done homefries.
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You're fellow NJians, right? So which is it, in your opinion: pork roll or taylor ham?
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It coulda been great. It's a damn travesty is what it is.
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...and never pay the extra $2 for "extra meat".
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That's all I wanted to know.
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But, bacon, ham or pork roll definitely not.
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...I badly wanted to agree that yes, of course I am a fellow ninja...but then possible blowback scenarios started coming to mind. I can't imagine any good can come from falsely claiming to be a ninja.I was a little relieved when I realized you were just confirming that I live in NJ.
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away from the stuff. It's just ... just ... too darned good to pass up.
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...way out in the sticks. It's a different world...we have honest to Betsy hillbillies out here.
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I bet you go tubing on the Delaware.
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George Lucas is all about destroying the legacies of his iconic films.
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...Most of the time I like to drive north towards Watergap and canoe back home...you get more whitewater up there. A more leisurely trip is to head south towards Stockton and New Hope.
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...of time there.
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with the earlier adventures of Indy before the events of Raiders took place. I know, I hated the cgi in Crystal Skullf*ck and don't think it gels in an IJ movie, so this may seem hypocritical, but I think it is a better option than geriatric Indy or a Mutt movie.
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So, we hung out in New Hope a lot.
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...I honestly couldn't believe what I was seeing. From arguing in talback I had convinced myself that any new Indiana Jones adventures would play up his age and wrinkles like Clint Eastwood.Hell, they had Ford lit from every possible shadow eliminating angle...they lit him like Barbara fucking Walters. He looked more grizzled in RAIDERS.
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...you're near Philly?
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Mar 01, 2010 4:05:58 PM CST
More Indy? Ha! Somebody owes Melissa Matheson some alimony!
by yackbacker
Ford, you fucking suck, dude. You've actually made even your coolest roles now appear lame. To paraphrase Harvey Dent, you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a lame-ass hasbeen.
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Caught up in all the North Jersey vs. South Jersey foofoorah is the fact that the western and eastern parts, though mere clicks apart on the map, are drastically different.
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...that was a silly thing to say...they're towns, not Scorsese films.
"I prefer Lambertville because it's a genuinely rough town that pulled itself up and achieved artsy-fartsydom honestly. New Hope is a fancy-pants town that likes to go slumming with tattoo parlors and fetish shops because it's good for business. Lambertville is by far the superior town. Anyone who disagrees can drink 12 oz. of Delaware River water on me." -
Just like I'm all for a mo-cap third SW trilogy. Get it going before they start dying, already!
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...and I could hit PA with a slingshot.
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Wait, what were we talking about again?
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Indiana Jones is a ninja?
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He's a fast typist from NJ.
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...Jones movie. Just swap out some characters, add some action and humor...voilà!
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It really looked like one of the most boring movies ever made.
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...and the rope-flying fresco by flare-light scene should have revealed the location of the Lost Whosie-Whatsit.
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when it first came out. Then, a few years later, I read "The Conversations," a book based on interviews between Michael Ontaatje, the author of "The English Patient" the novel, and Walter Murch, who edited the movie, and was blown away by what Murch said. So then I ran out to rent TEP, pissed off that I skipped it for so long. After watching it, though, I wish I had continued to ignore it.
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...back around, Very neatly done.
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the score. The score was beautiful.
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As long as Fucknut isn't writing them.
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Although I'm a little afraid to admit that.
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...that Ford, Lucas, and Spielberg should be placed under civilian arrest by any and all fans should they attempt and more CGI, over-the-top pulpy shit with the Indy name attached. ... and that, if they try Indy in 3-D, fingers need to be chopped off, in slow succession, a là Willem Dafoe's character in the English Patient, until they stop. They should start with Lucas. ...and, that Lambertville is better than New Hope, for the simple fact that New Hope is in PA and PA sucks
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And I say every man needs at least one hole in his penis. Else the thing would swell, infect and be untouchable.Bring it on down to Lambertville, squeeked the skinny lil boy-band dude.
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I think that probably answers your question...
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I don't want to post another installment of the Diner on this thread, it's getting massive. Subs?
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Any of you had listened to me and jumped off the Indiana Jones train ten minutes into the second one, you wouldn't be suffering about it so much now.
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Lettuce take a look at the map?
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The new issue of Total Film contains the abriged script for [Deleted]. This is how it ends:
Blue Sam Worthington: I'm glad technology is sophisticated enough so James Cameron could make his $230 million 3D IMAX movie about rejecting technology.
Pretty clever, innit? -
Ten minutes into the second Indiana Jones movie is one of the high points of the whole series.
"Hahaha...Nice try Lao Che!"
"Goodbye, Dr.Jones." -
Little helicopters in a hand-shaped formation. Right in front of your fucking face.Like a swarm of gnats.
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Taylor ham can suck an egg.
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So maybe I'm biased just a tad.
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A murder of crows.A school of fish.A slop of pork roll.
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Same as it ever was.
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to get kicked off a Southwest Airlines plane?
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...the high water mark of the English language.
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We could take the 44 to the 117.
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...through the miasma he saw an unctuous trichinosis of pork roll congealing on the counter...
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Throw out the handles of some of the more notorious banhammerings. I mean, people who really deserved it.
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He was a cunt.
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because it was completely undeserved.
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post-BAMPF!
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44117.
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If this story is legit, that's probably why these three dickheads want to get this up and running. Cash in on the 3-D trend. Wow, it looks like they're not even going to try with this one. It'll probably make 'Crystal Cock' look like 'Raiders'.
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