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Mr. White Probably Won't Return For BOND 23 - Calls CASINO & QUANTUM 'Shit'!!
Merrick here...
Actor Jesper Christensen, who played "Mr. White" in CASINO ROYALE and QUANTUM OF SOLACE, will evidently not be returning for the next Bond movie.
During a press meeting for his new movie A FAMILY...
Christensen said that he is happy that his "interlude as a villain in the James Bond series is over."
Explaining his position, Christensen said: "Today, I admit that I regard [Casino Royale] and [Quantum of Solace] as really shit. All the people die in them, so two movies are enough for me."
This quote comes to us by way of THIS article over at the excellent Bond site MI6.
The next 007 film is currently being developed as a script by Peter Morgan (THE QUEEN, FROST/NIXON), Neal Purvis and Robert Wade (CASINO and QUANTUM). Word is the project may not shift into full gear until the future disposition of MGM is stabilized (allowing the dust from its sale to settle, and whatnot). Although, given the success of the last two films, it's certain The Powers That Be will press forward as quickly as the situation allows.
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quite a candid remark for an actor.
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too eager to be first I guess.
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huh?
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... and not so right about Casino Royale.
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QUANTUM was shit. Marc Forster cant direct action to save his life. CASINO on the other hand was THE shit.
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I love it when actors express their true feelings about the projects they've worked on.
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Feb. 19, 2010, 9:22 a.m. CST
quantum was slipping into old james-bond bullshit
by idrinkyourmilkshake
Casino was just awesome.No silly gadgets, no q,no over the top villians, no invisible cars.It was brutal and well made. Quantum put me to sleep twice in the theater.The villian was awful.That film was 100% forgettable and borderline Oldhat Bond.
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Casino was excellent. So, maybe, Mr White is SHIT.
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So what? Fuck off back to Russia you commie frenchie hippy tree hugging nazi. YOU'RE shit, so there!
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Quantum was awful. So, maybe Mr. White is feces. <p> Wait a minute, someone just said that - sorta
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Feb. 19, 2010, 9:29 a.m. CST
I liked Casino, but I don't remember anything about it.
by rev_skarekroe
So I skipped Quantum entirely.
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They mean totally different things, you know. Maybe he was misquoted.
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It sucked.
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Too much Bourne-style jerky camera action scenes (give it a rest, Hollywood, please. For Bourne it was perfect. For every other movie, please let me know what the F**k is going on during the fights). Casino was really good. Neither were "shit" (bad bond is like bad pizza or bad sex - its still pretty good). Anyway, Id like to see them get away from the Quantum organization for a movie or two, then maybe come back to it in after a while. And, please, just a bit more "fun". While not shit, Quantum wasn't exactly a whole lotta laughs to watch. I miss the fun bond. Even Timothy Dalton's pics had a couple of lighter moments.
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You're a casting director, would you touch him now? Thought not.
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"Dear God, someone is trying to take over 30% o Bolivia's water supply. Get Bond on this." Fuck off, a dispute over water, are you fucking kidding.
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I thought Casino Royale was excellent, and after repeated viewings, Quantum gets better and better each time.
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Everybody alwways dies in Bond movies. So don't be surprised if it happens in the recent ones. Expect this guy to backpedal fast if he wants to keep his job. Mr. White's gotta eat? That said, he could easily be recast. Most people wouldn't notice, although I admit that this guy did a good job in the first two movies. But "Mr. White" could easily be a handle that different people have.
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Obviously this guy has had some type of falling out with the producers, studio, etc. and is simply bitter. But "Quantum"---ugghh, there's an hour and a half of my life I'll never get back.
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Casino Royale is bloody brilliant, and Quantum was stupid...but not shit. I haven't watched it again since theaters so I can't really say for certain, but its pretty fucked up for an actor to say something like that. PLay your part, get your money, shut your trap. It's not like you were remotely important anyway, anyone could have played that part suitable. What a douchebag. Remind me not to support A Family or whatever. I hate people who go out of their to shit on something theyve been in. Unless its Gigli or Glitter, shut your fuckin mouth.
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What's the point of a license to kill if you don't use it?<p> Would he prefer that everybody sit around a campfire and talk about their feelings?<p> But seriously folks, has anybody ever gone through the trouble of measuring the body count of all the Bond films? Surely, the last two didn't have the highest body counts.
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I thought it was fine, even though the villain was, um, ponce I guess would be the term. But that's realistic (he shrieks like a little girl when faced with a revenge-seeking British assassin and manages to get as far as he does by flailing wildly with an axe.) The ungrateful people who whine here amaze me sometimes. QoS was still vastly more like Bourne than Die Another Day (which I also liked, but not at all for the same reasons).
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He has the same way with words! I've often wondered who this "quantize" guy was! Quantize, Quantum--I think we can all see it now.
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The ending of QoS left that an open question. He could have been rescued from the desert.<p> Now, I guess the question has been answered.<p> Which is fine by me. It just gives Blofeld one more reason to be pissed off at Bond in the next movie.<p> ;-)
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I see we're all in agreement here. That doesn't happen often.
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And didn't even get caught, because his character wasn't stupid enough to stand up and leave the theater while hollering out "THIS OPERA IS SHIT!" {g} (Actually relevant, because Mr. White makes a quip to the lady next to him how he guesses some people just can't stand opera. {lol})
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i.e. the whiny douche who thought he was awesome but shrieked like a cornered rabbit when axe-fighting at the end. Mr. Green was found with two bullets in the back of his head (Quantum killed him) and a pint of motor oil in his stomach (Bond's FU for how Miss Strawberry died.)
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And dies early; so he whines about it and the producers say, "Y'know what? We'll just kill him offscreen and save ourselves the money of hiring this troublemaker."
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Roman Polanski.
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It had some good action scenes and was a Bond film with a message. Could've used a better villain though. And a Bond film without gadgets or Q is just a Bourne film.
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Who is this dick-head and why do we care?
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Doesn't seem very professional to take the money and then trash the project. Besides, if it was shit, then why take the project? He's essentially announcing that he has no integrity.
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Maybe I was getting QoS confused with Resevoir Dogs? Wakka wakka!
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The haters can suck it.
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Nope... still don't recognise him. What a twat.
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And how does Purvis and Wade keep getting re-hired? What the fuck do they contribute? Invisible cars. Fuck off.
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probably wasn't asked back
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Is to steal all the water in Bolivia? Excuse me while I press the button that drops you into the shark tank.
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off screen in the next one. Hence why he wasn't asked back and hence the "everybody gets killed" line.
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I agree about QOS, but Casino Royale is my 2nd favorite Bond film ever. If they really have to they can just recast though. This is James Bond after all. How many actors played Blofeld? Mr White's not even the main villain, he was just Bond's best lead. <p>It's been mentioned repeatedly that the next one won't be a direct continuation like QOS anyway.
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But I guess he thinks he knows better than the guys signing the cheques. He was one of the better aspects of the last two films. I suspect there may be some backtracking on his part quite soon.
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Hey cookylamoo. If he steals all the water in Bolivia, lots of people will die, and painfully. I know its not as important to you as shooting a laser from the moon at Buckingham Palace, because the people are brown and wear silly guacho pants, but maaayyybe you should realize that Bolivia is a real country with real people, and it would be a real tragedy if an evil person were to have a vice grip on their water supply. You fucking cunt.
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Who this guy or who his character is.
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between the two movies. 'Tis he who is shit.
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He probably said something completely different but whatever.
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the negotiation process and demanded too high of an asking price. The suits shut him down, eighty-sixed his character and now he's bitter about it. Hey Jesper! Here's me playing the world's tiniest violin for you!
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Can we PLEASE examine what the FUCK that means?<p> The only way that I think I can translate that statement is how you guys already mentioned: Mr. White is killed off-screen in B23 and Christensen wasn't particularly happy with that.<p> A lot of folks are focusing on the whole CR and QoS are shit statement, but I feel as though complaining that 'everyone dies' in a Bond film is inane and disqualifies any other sentiment spoken out of the same mouth.
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QoS, however, would have been much better if THE FUCKING CAMERA WAS MOVED BACK A BIT SO THAT I CAN SEE THE FUCKING ACTION SCENES.
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That apology was epic.
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That's nothing new.
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Sometimes your mind is the best action director.
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Casino was a masterpiece. Quantum sucked, true, but to say Casino was shit? That dude's got "shit" for brains.
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YES.
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of Casino. If you look at it in that context, its a fairly awesome ending to the arc started in CR.
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the shortest and one of the weakest Bond films in history. I think Moonraker had a better over-all plot. Casino on the other hand is in the top 5 best Bond films ever, if not THE best.
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And you too, you pretentious twit!
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This is true.
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The real shame of the QoS fights is that you can tell that there's real choreography and stunts going on, they just aren't letting you see it.
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see his work in Per Flys Trilogy : "The Bench", "The Inheritance" and "Manslaughter" for examples of his talent. His role in James Bond wasnt anything special, but dosent seem like a wise career choice to thrash the films though.
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who makes a living working on material i think sucks.
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They've all sucked. Stick with Germans, Russians and Brits.
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Feb. 19, 2010, 10:50 a.m. CST
Please, don't take the job if it's sh*t, you spoiled baby!
by IndieSpider
And yes, Quantum did suck.
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Quantum was a real disappointment for me, because I loved the trial and error aspect of Casino. It seemed like he was learning on the job. Quantum is supposed to be a direct continuation, and now all of the sudden he's Superman. Lame.
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Casino R was the bomb, QoS was pretty lame. But I was really into the Mr. White, Mr. Green,Mr. Color storyline..hopefully they keep playing that. As long as it ends up with Spectre I'll be happy.
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THE UNEMPLOYMENT LINE YOU EFFING DISLOYAL HACK. "ZOMG I CAN'T BELIEVE I STARRED IN MOVIES THAT FURTHERED MY CAREER!" INSUFFERABLE JACKASS.
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The 2 best Bond films of the last 30 years were both directed by Martin Campbell. If the next movie is a stinker like Quantum was, this franchise is going to go into decline again, thereby costing the studio and producers untold millions of dollars. They should pay Campbell whatever he wants to direct all future Bond movies.
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You really called a guy racist because he prefers outlandish villains in Bond films? You're an asshole, a complete asshole. <p> How do you cope in life? Someone drops some litter......"You evil cunt! Don't you realise you've just condemned all the peoples of the world to a slow and crippling death through environmental catastrophe?? And since the 3rd World always suffers first it's clear that you hate black people you miserable racist piece of shit!!!" <p> Yep....that was you that was.
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Go back to making Dutch films that are seen by hundreds...literally hundreds of people, you crotchety fuck. He's right about Quantum, tho.
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Feb. 19, 2010, 11:15 a.m. CST
Agree, Campbell is Clearly The Only Man Alive Who "Gets" Bond
by Crow3711
They should pay him whatever he wants. First he makes Goldeneye, reinvigorates franchise. Leaves, a bunch of fucking crap comes back. Reinvigorates the franchise for A SECOND TIME (which is nigh unheard of) and then leaves, and semi-crap gets made. He clearly does Bond like no one else. Let him do it his way.
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1. A piece of shit. <P> Or <P> 2. Not a bad piece of shit.
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And turn that guy who follows M everywhere into a woman named Moneypenny.
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Feb. 19, 2010, 11:23 a.m. CST
i would not call them "shit"...but i never watched either
by future help
one of them a second time.
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is it in my DVD collection or not? do i have any desire for it to me. Casino is in there, wasn't compelled to spend the money on Quantum. money talks..
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CR was quite striking when I first saw it. QOS was a lot less striking. It's kind of like the Bourne movies; they really grab you by the collar when you first see it, but it's a fleeting enjoyment.<p>I wonder how many more acts this new Bond style has left. How will they keep it fresh?
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oops.
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I also fell asleep watch Quantum. That movie is shit. So, this guy is half-right.
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....a movie,...someday.....when Daniel Craig's run is over. Sorry folks, as much as I really like Craig as an actor (he was excellent in Road to Perdition and Defiance) but I just don't buy him as Bond. I understand they wanted to go in a very different direction with the franchise, and they did, but I just don't care for any of it. I guess I'm an old school type who enjoys classic Bond. So, alas, I must agree with Mr. Christensen. "Shit" indeed. And anyway you slice it, pro-Craig or not, you gotta admit that QOS was just a flat-out bad movie.
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if they ever do that discount thing were they slap a whole buncha movies together like they did with the Batman and Matrix movies. see em in stores all the time.
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Feb. 19, 2010, 11:31 a.m. CST
Of course Quantum Sucked, Bond just had his berries crushed
by Dirk_The_Amoeba
I mean you try making a good movie after your jujube's run and hide inside your colon and refuse to come out and play anymore.
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as the baddie. OOOH YEAAH
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They have a the three Bourne films in a box set at Wal-Mart for twenty bucks.
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Because nobody wants to blow up the moon or melt glaciers or create robot women or EVEN SO MUCH AS HIJACK A MISSILE! What happened to my Bond Villains?!? Can anyone tell me what the fuck they were really up to in the last 2 movies?
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They don't all have to be Blofelds or Goldfingers. However, that weird henchman... What the hell? He gets tripped over by a woman and then his wig falls off. Hahaha. Jaws must be shitting himself. Quantum is better on a second viewing, much better. But the ridiculous directorial flourishes remain ridiculous.
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Personally I loved Casino but didn't like Quantum at all. But A) being a Bond villain is a rare opportunity to be a part of a cinematic legacy and B) you just don't talk shit about your own films, no matter how bad you think they are, because your shitting on about a thousand people's hard work, not to mention biting the hand that fed you. It's a matter of respect. And for that reason, the man is a huge fucking douchebag.
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Quantum was a really, really good (not great) Bond film.<p>1.) 2nd half of CR = CHECK. (helps to think of it in that context)<p>Globetrotting to differnt locales = CHECK.<p>Bond bangs random chick = CHECK.<p>Tip of the hat to the old films with Quantum organization/girl dead on bed covered in liquid = CHECK.<p>Fights and chases = CHECK.<p> Casino Royal is a 9 or 9.5 out of 10 for me. And Quantum is a solid 8.<p>It looses points for shaky-cam and Bond not sleeping with Olga, but it still keeps things in the same "world" as Casino and moves the plot forward into deeper waters. (SPECTRE-like org)<p>What do you people want? More invisible cars and Dr. Goodhead crap?
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I liked him a lot, I thought he got a pretty meh death. I'd like to see that charaqter rebooted, although in this more "realistiq" series I know that's hardly likely.
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Feb. 19, 2010, 11:57 a.m. CST
One of the most essential Bonds followed by the most throwaway
by performingmonkey
I still can't get over how meh QoS was. Casino Royale was Bond back to its very best and ALSO managed to be thoroughly modern in the process. And in a way it WAS one of the most OTT credibility-testing Bonds ever made, yet it wasn't sold to us in a cheesy way, it was sold as a proper movie, which is what so many Bonds forget to be. If you go into them thinking 'it's just another Bond movie' it's always gonna turn out shit. Martin Campbell obviously comes in and thinks 'I'm gonna tear this shit up!'
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Unless he got new ones from Q...<p>BLEST - Yes, it had fights and chases (and they did appear well choreographed) but you couldn't see a damn thing. That's a huge negative for me in a Bond movie.
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Bond: "So ... you're married." <P> Summer: "Yeah. Crazy, huh?" <P> Bond: *Takes defibrillator from glovebox, tries to restart broken heart*
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Feb. 19, 2010, 12:12 p.m. CST
Q gave him new ones, they have airbag protection and float
by Dirk_The_Amoeba
They can sense when an object is about turn Bond into a Soprano - or castrati, and they deploy the airbag system, which surrounds Bonds genitals and makes the more er, homosexualist henchmen aware of his enlarged genitalia, which causes them to hesitate smacking them around, and gives Bond the edge to kick their ass. As for the straight henchmen, they just become demoralized that Bond is bigger than they are. <p> But Q had not perfected this system before QoS was released, and so Bond was left with an empty sac.
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Making movies that weren't laugh-out-loud ridiculous? <p>You can't do those types of Bond movies anymore. Everyone's seen at least one of the Austin Powers movies.
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The villains were Mr. Blood Tears and Mr. Oil Guy.
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He's right! After Quantum of Shit I'd be inclined to write off Casino Royale too...
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Feb. 19, 2010, 12:18 p.m. CST
Didn't they shoot footage of Mr. White dying for Quantum?
by StarWarsRedux
But just didn't use it?
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Seriously, haven't seen quantum yet, but the way people talq about it I kinda don't want to....I do thinq olga kurylenko (spl?) from hitman was pretty cool and she's in quantum, that's the only Reason I wanna see it
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That is one crazy movie.
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some of the talkbackers are interpreting that guy's statement. "Well he's right about QoS, that WAS shit". The actual quality of the movies isn't the point, it's that he was a huge douche about the movies.
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Seriously, I mean, exactly what were the bad guys in Royale & Solace? The eeeevil plan was to over-charge Bolivians for their water. Luckily Bond was able to foil them while they stayed at their ridiculously volatile hotel. I assume whoever booked that hotel has been shot... or keeping in line with the villains of them film - THEY LOST THEIR PENSION PLAN.
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Casino Royale is the Best Bond Ever!! Quantum was Ok, But Casino was Amazing!!
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It's been done!
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You mean like how Harrison Fords a huge douche about Star Wars?
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A Donald Trump-like figure will have a crack team of international thugs shake down a beach-side community in order that he can... BUY THE LAND CHEAP & PUT UP A BOUTIQUE HOTEL. Why makes billions when you can make... thousands.
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..."about Star Wars," thommcg
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ZING!
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it seems a pretty churlish thing to say. Way to repay the producers for your biggest ever career break, dumbass
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The guy just expressed his Honest opinion on two films he worked on them. I am sure a bunch of other actors/Actresses feel the same way about other shows but are to scared to say anything. And for the record I think he is half right CR was great but QS was poor. Another gripe is as its ment to be a prequel they should never have used Judi Dench and gone back to a Male M
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watch Goldfinger a few dozen times. Especially the car compactor scene.
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...although it's still an entertaining flick, and a good one in general (so far from "shit"). Once the poker game starts, it begins a downward spiral, and totally plummets with that final act leading to "Mr. White", so I can sort of see where he's coming from. I didn't bother with "Quantum of Solace"... I'll catch it when it shows up on TV.
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I love that argument. Whenever someone exposes unpleasantries where others overlook them, the standard response is "oh, you're so pretentious" or "oh, you're an asshole, he didn't mean it like that." Listen, you fucking brain dead idiot, I didn't hear him complaining about the CR villain who...get ready for it...TRIED TO SHORT STOCK BY BLOWING UP AN AIRPLANE!!! Seriously? That was enough "evil," but taking the water supply from indigent south americans is somehow jumping the shark? Explain the distinction. Please, by all means, Professor, explain how one is more over-the-top. If he had said "I didn't think the actor was particularly menacing" or something like that, well, I might agree. But he SPECIFICALLY wrote about the scheme, not the actor. So, what is it like to be such a dullard? I bet it's relaxing.
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He shouldn't be talking shit about his movies publicly. Bad form. I also agree with some here, that QoS is pretty great when viewed within the "2nd half of CR" context. It really doesn't stand well on it's own. But watch both movies back to back and it's truly a different experience. The whole thing feels coherent and is very entertaining (stupid-ass shakycam in QoS aside, that is).
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i love the honesty - it's truly admirable, but very very foolish.
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i love the honesty - it's truly admirable, but very very foolish.
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...about Casino Royale but he hit the nail on the head about that unwatchable pile of unforgivable shit called Quantum of Solace. Come back Martin Campbell, Bond needs you!
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one of the best JB,meaning one of the best women-conquering characters,then there is something wrong wiht this world.
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Casino Royale was overrated just like GoldenEye was. Too long, too pretentious, Daniel Craig miscast, too thuggish with his toilet brush hairstyle, the film grinds to a halt when Le Chiffre (also miscast)dies etc, etc. Quantum Of Solace; one of the worst films in cinematic history. Like watching the rushes of an unfinished 1985 Cannon film starring Daniel Craig as Chuck Norris. No plot, pathetic villain, the worst theme song in Bond history, no charm, no wit, Daniel Craig miscast with his grunting depressing presence and toilet brush hairstyle etc, etc. I could go on but you get the general idea.
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It could've used a more traditional approach to shooting the action scenes and maybe a more fleshed out script, but I think that going back to the raw footage and have another, more skilled editor have a go with it would result in a better, less disjointed film. Still, I reckon it is far above the Roger Moore nonsense I grew up on. Now, let's learn some valuable lessons on the next one, dear Bond producers and bring us the From Russia With Love of the 21st century.
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It seemed to me that quantum of solace was rushed and the script wans't completely fleshed out. Top that with a whiny small unimposing villain, jump cuts between action and horse race, or opera that made no sense (due to director's fault) and you have a pretty average bond film. I say they take their time with next one. I heard Sam Mendes is directing the third. I'm hoping for more "Road to Perdition" and "Jarhead" Sam mendes, than "revolutionary road" and "Away we go" sam mendes. Hiriing indie directors to work on high budget action films worked well with Raimi and Singer and Nolan on Spider-Man X-Men, and Dark KNight, but more often than not getting the indie guy doesn't always mean success, see Quantum or Singer's flop Superman returns.
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I still can't put my finger on it, i've watched the both only once and they are on the movie channels alot but i'd rather rewatch gone in 60 seconds for the 100th time than watch bond for the second.....and thats saying something.
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Feb. 19, 2010, 1:53 p.m. CST
That's easy for you to say... you got a cool sounding name.
by AsburyParkWest
I think Mr. Pink would have a few choice words for him.
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The only real problem I had with Quantum of Solace was it's action. It was almost impossible to keep a track of what was going on during the action sequences because of all the jerky camera. Storywise, it was fine, but it could have used a few lighter moments as well - as far as being a "shit" movie, though, opinions are like assholes, but I personally thought both Casino and Quantum were MILES from that as far as normal "shit" Bond movies are concerned.
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...was going into production with an incomplete script. Forster and Craig tried to knock it into shape (along with Joshua Zetumer), but didn't manage to find a compelling story arc. The look of the film is jaw-dropping. What a wasted opportunity. The hiring of Peter Morgan for Bond 23 is a masterstroke. I really hope Sam Mendes doesn't fuck it up. Casino Royale is the best in the series.
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There really wasn't much more in it. I did like it, not as much as Casino Royale, but I was entertained by it. Though I fully undesrand why some people would not.
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So you weren't too fond then?
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I didn't like Quantum, but Casino?? What a fucker.
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Like I said before, end Casino with Bond and the chic at the hotel, and the rest of the scenes add them to the beginning of Quantum, and you'll have to great Bond movies.
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No one could possibly diss Casino Royale with any credibility. It's simply the finest Bond film after From Russia With Love. Quantum of Solace was flawed but still good. I suspect however, that this guy's comments were influenced more by behind-the-scenes politics rather than genuine feelings on the films themselves - perhaps he was getting stiffed out of an adequate pay check offer for his return (MGM and EON have been having financial problems). Either way, he's a cock.
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Mr. White is the guy that Bond shoots at the end of CASINO (Le Chiffre's boss) and keeps in the boot of the car at the start of QoS. I was pretty sure the double agent killed him during the interrogation.
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Yeah you could drop Le Chiffe into a shark tank too. Although, maybe he had a better plan on tap but never got the chance to do it. Anyway, see my comment about lame French Bond villains.
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His interviews are unbearable. He just comes across as a dull, charisma-free guy.
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opera house. Bond kills him in the original unused ending to QoS which was meant to connect to the start of the next Bond movie.
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the two of them together makes for a fantastic 4 hour feature, QOS doesnt work on it's own because it just strings together action scenes - it's Bond by comittee, lazy and simple, in CR we see Bond working in following clues, tailing a target and using his wits to get where the clues take him, in QOS everythig is handed to him, MI6 doing the legwork electronically with tracing money, arranging flights and Felix telling him where the bad guy will be (though surprisingly the rest of the CIA cant figure this out and dont intercept Bond at the hotel in the desert). Similar to Tomorrow Never Dies, it's a good action movie, but not a great Bond movie. The editing completely cut out any breaks in the action and limited the storytelling, whoever decided that needs to realise that the Bond movies are a great Spy genre and not just an action series.
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worse than shit.
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I really liked Jesper Christensen as Mr White. He was a very effective villain, one of those Hannibal Lecter type, playing everybody's strings in the backstages, and always getting away with it, always outsmarting everybody. He was the closest to a blofield the new series had, only more reality based, and the better for it.<br><br>I hope he's being misquoted, because the only shit i cna find in Casino Roylae and quantum Of solance is just the later's action scene, or rather, the way they were shot. In a Bond movie, that was completly unexcusable!
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...isn't charisma free. He's a little shy. He's an incredible actor. That's all that matters.
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in the first five minutes of the next movie, ala Diamonds are Forever. Cue song.
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And two of Martin Campbells best films are his 2 Bond entires. So, lets just have him make another Bond flick. Something there works. Quantum was better than half the Brosnan films, but no where near as good as casino.
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I was willing to give it a second chance and it was still just a bunch of shitty action sequences strung together. Casino Royale, on the other hand, I've seen at least 5 times and my only complaint is that a few of the action scenes are too long. Other than that it's perfect.
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Says No Autographs, No Photos...guess he's a real Thespian. Hey Jesper, keep your day job in foreign films.
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From his site: "Stopped doing theatre in 98. Since then stupid men on film only." What a fucking plum, must cry himself to sleep every night...
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It was a good Bond flick but not great. But this wanker is probably just pissed off cos he thought he'd be the next Blofeld but now he's just a Goldmember.
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Mr White, more like Mr Gob-Shite.<p> Bite the hands that feeds at your peril fuckface.<p> And what's up with 'everyone gets killed' line. You fucking dickhead. So you're the only thesp on this planet who's never seen a Bond movie before? BULLSHIT. You knew you were signing on for a pair of action movies with a high body count - so don't fucking whine about it now.<p> If it's a moral stand you're taking why don't you repay your earnings from the two films? If not do, us all a favor and FUCK OFF.
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Interesting, well articulated post. Incredible user-name. Now that's a character I'd like to see brought back...
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Never Say Never Again,For Your Eyes Only, Octopussy, A View to A Kill....<p>All worse than Quantum of Solace.<p>And starring Connery, Moore, and Brosnan to boot.<p>Craig has had one AWESOME Bond film, and one pretty good one that was more of a follow-up/ending to the first film....so let's give the "awful/garbage/shite" shtick a rest, shall we?
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...I liked QUANTOM OF SOLACE wayyyyyyy better than CASINO ROYALE. I watched QOS on DVD, not in theaters, just about two weeks ago. Loved it. Loved the opera scene where Bond said, "Might I offer a suggestion? I think you people really need to find a new place to meet," and they all get up casually and exit, knowing they've been found out. The escape that had no other sound effects besides the opera singers, a montage of fighting as Bond escapes, and the fight with Slate (even though it was obviously an attempt to "keep up" with the Bourne style of fighting, I'm fine with that), all of it was pretty freakin' cool to me. More action like that, please, and less TRANSFORMERS and/or FAST AND FURIOUS. That's my $0.02. We're all just floating...
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Unfortunately many seem to think every Bond film serves the same purpose, they don't! Casino was about Bond the rough Diamond/blunt Instrument being duped by a reluctant double agent, falling in love and preparing to give up all his future development for the wife and 2.4 children dream. Quantum of Solace was about a man reverting back to what he new best but with a denial of vengeance. He had to face his demons by seeing his path reflected in his circumstantial female companion and chose to become more professional in his chosen path. Two films showing two completely different periods in the path to the final article that is James Bond. Comparing them for content is pointless and Mr White is a Dick! At what point signing up for a Bond film did you expect all the villains to not get killed?
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Top man.
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I don't have any memory of a bad guy appearing in both movies and no memory of any Mr. White. What scenes was he in and what did he do or say that I might remember? I liked CR quite a bit, QoS not so much.
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The last two Bond films are the only two Bonds I've really enjoyed. Sure I grew up watching Connery and Moore with my dad, and enjoyed the camp of rocketpacks and submarine sportscars, but shit, the series was finally getting GOOD. Like Batman, some reboots can be done RIGHT.
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based on nothing! Other than the title it was in no way a Bond film. They've run out of titles as well. The last title they can use from a short story is The Hildebrant Rarity. It's about a fish. They can start doing films based on non Fleming written novels I guess. Never read any, don't know if any are good or not. <BR> <BR> They could remake older films and make them more like the books. Very few Bond films have been close to the books. The books are far better. The kids would probably complain though sense Fleming didn't actually write stories with car chases, explosions and gadgets, not for the most part at least.
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"fuck bolivia and fuck you too." oh, clearly i was mistaken about the implications of your criticism. how silly of me.
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I don't remember much about which I take as a bad sign since it didn't register.
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Can't anyone see the second film had to be the way it was so Bond could metamorphosis into the Bond we know and love! Trust me they know what there doing for once! I bet the next film is the best one of the three with Craig and this is because we saw what Bond did to himself in the last film! Think about it people! Use your heads!
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You know...Mr. Boddy...in the Conservatory...with the candlestick...
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I grew up watching Connery and Moore, too, and loved them both. I love Daniel Craig, too. But the new Bond has begun to hew far too closely into Bourne territory. Bourne, for the most part, uses his superior fighting skills and overall brawn to beat the baddies. James Bond, circa Connery, Moore, Lazenby, Dalton and Brosnan all used their wits combined with their resourcefulness to overcome the physically superior bad guy (Jaws, Odd Job, et al). But now Craig's Bond is merely a shadowy blur of Damon's Jason Bourne. All brawn and fighting prowess, rarely any wit or resourcefulness. Oh, and I LOVED the spectacle of the old Bond films. That's what made it a Bond movie. Now they're just pale imitations of Bourne and all the other boring espionage heroes. Don't get me wrong, I do like Daniel Craig's portrayal, a lot. But please, loosen him up a bit. I'm not asking for another DIE ANOTHER DAY, that'd be a fiasco. But I'd love to see another THE SPY WHO LOVED ME before Craig's run is over. <p> What they've done to Bond? It's kinda like if they took the comicbook John Constantine character and have him defeat the Devil by shooting lightning bolts from his hands, ala Harry Potter just cause that franchise is all the rage, now. <p> Can you imagine the comicbook Constantine fighting Satan with a wand and lightning bolts, and not with his wit and his bigger balls? I just can't see it. Well, this is exactly what's been done to the cinematic Bond character, imo. (Yes, the Fleming novels are a different animal).
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Eventually Mr. White assassinates Le Chiffre for betraying the organization. Is shot in the leg and captured by James Bond at the conclusion of CASINO ROYALE. <BR> <BR> Transported in the trunk of Bond's Aston Martin, he is delivered to an MI6 "safe house" in Siena, Italy, at the beginning of QUANTUM OF SOLACE. <BR> <BR> He's only the last guy you see and the first guy you see in the movies. You can't remember Mr. White? I guess neither of these movies were memorable for you.
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Mr White! He appeared at the beginning of Casino when the initial deal with the Africans goes down, he kills LeChiffe while torturing Bond and then Bond shoots his knee out at the end of Casino Royale! He's next seen surviving the boot of Bonds car during the chase in Italy at the beginning of Quantum of Solace, escaping and then the only member at the Opera House scene to stay in his seat when exposed by Bond. I'd advise watching these films back to back, they make a hell of a double act! sith_rising - I agree, the other Bond films are too far removed from the books with their gajects and crazy cars. The last two Bond films were way more true to the character as well as the order of things so far. No silly jokes, lethal execution of combat and cold kills and not jumping into bed with every woman with a pulse!
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What a tard.
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except for goldeneye and casino royale which i really liked. Everything else is just boring or/and silly and started the reboot/remake trend without even knowing it. Every bond film is a remake of the other, just ridiculous. I would have loved to see a younger sean connery in a bond movie like casino royale.
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theyre both piece of shit movies.
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Just read some more transcripts from the news conference, and nothing whatsoever was lost in translation. If anything, the wording is a bit less candid in English. Pity really, I quite liked him in the new Bonds. Shady, sophisticated and kinda weasely - exactly the qualities you'd look for in a vilain. But I think it's weird people dissing him so much over this. He's an excellent actor, and has a long careeer of very fine performances to his name. I realise most of them are in Danish but that shouldn't necessarily disqualify them. Why do people always act like foreign actors should be grateful for parts in mainstream flicks? Jesper Christensen is a well respected actor in Denmark, but people seem to think his only ambition is to appear in blockbusters. He actually went into a bit more detail about his 'Hollywood career' in the conference: "Following a role like that, I can typically wait a year on exactly the right offer for a Danish film." So, there. Hollywood is to finance him being more picky about his roles.
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Bean upstaged Brosnan in that film. He was fucking awesome. He was what Bond would have become without principles. And Famke Janssen can squeeze me to death ANYTIME
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I agree with him on Quantum though. But Casino Royale was brilliant, and one of the best action films of the decade. Mads Mikkelsen is such a badass too.
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but Mr. White comes off as a cunt judging by this. Still I've liked him in some films.
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Didn't he read the script? Doesn't he know what a Bond film is? Quantum is pretty crappy and I totally disagree with "rebooting" Bond (and getting rid of the gunbarrel sequence at the beggining), but calling those films "shit" is a bit odd.
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is the best Bond movie by far.
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Feb. 19, 2010, 4:54 p.m. CST
Casino Royale and Suantum of Qolace are lifetime channel movies
by TakingScorpiosCalls
a disgrace to bond. give me a 82 year old rogre moore midget-walking around with his limp liver-spotted dick in some 20 year old chick any day.
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Would be a good Bond movie title.
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Feb. 19, 2010, 4:57 p.m. CST
sorry npj but Die another day was great just for
by TakingScorpiosCalls
Brosnan smoking cigars like a pro and the line " Q i think you've been in here too logn"
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was a horrible piece of shit.
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Feb. 19, 2010, 5:01 p.m. CST
Superrabbi: the villains were Mr. McCauley Culkin and
by TakingScorpiosCalls
Mr. Addams Family guy. But seriously the villains have sucked royally lately.
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If he has ever watched a Bond movie he had to know that a lot of people would die. And presumably he read the script for Casino and Quantum, yet NOW he has a problem with the movies! What an ungrateful knucklehead! Plus he really isn't commenting on any real qualitative deficiency of either film since (1)he lumps them together when CR was clearly a better movie than Quantum and (2)the only reason stated for his conclusion that they were "shit" is that everybody dies. Why should we even care about his opinion?
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Feb. 19, 2010, 5:03 p.m. CST
"Let's raise the price on Bolivia's water supply"
by TakingScorpiosCalls
"MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! ....MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!.... muahahahahah... muahah. hhahah... oooh... hah. *crickets chirp*
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Jesper who?? Who the fuck cares?
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Feb. 19, 2010, 5:08 p.m. CST
Mr. White just got shot in a 3 way standoff in a wharehouse
by TakingScorpiosCalls
so of course he's not going to be fond of people dying since he was just involved in one of those die-people things.
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a great actor has passed. lionel jefferies died aged 82. he directed the railway children and starred in chitty chitty bang bang as well as the tv show woof.
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Feb. 19, 2010, 5:13 p.m. CST
So basically the only Bond title left is "Property of a Lady"
by tangcameo
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good bond title
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Finger My Anus While We Smile
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Feb. 19, 2010, 5:21 p.m. CST
And 'Risico'...and er, '007 in New York'
by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave
Anyway, the worst Bond was 'The Man with the Golden Gun'. Fucking horrible, despite the presence of Christopher Lee. Tacky looking, boring as hell, irritating supporting characters like Sheriff Pepper, and a stupid tin whistle sound effect over the only impressive moment - the car doing a corkscrew jump over a bridge (which they actually did for real). The nadir of the series - but Die Another Day comes close. And Diamonds are Forever as well. All hail Craig for saving us from campy Bond.
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Feb. 19, 2010, 5:24 p.m. CST
I wouldnt even know who he is if not for these movies
by SlimButNotreally
Sad how he rides coattails for success then takes a dump in the coatroom
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and who told him his opinion was relevent?
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written by Kingsly Amis, aka Robert Markham. I believe this is considered a part of the Bond canon.
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Feb. 19, 2010, 5:38 p.m. CST
btw, rather watch QUANTUM than your average roger moore dud.
by RedHorseVector
ANY FUCKING DAY, shittily-filmed action sequences aside. most of the bond movies were garbage.
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No payoff for his arc then? Fuck him.
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See you later, asshole. Glad to be rid of you.
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I would add "A View to a Kill" to the bottom of the barrel Bond movies. It features a way over-the-hill Roger Moore (who wasn't a very good Bond even whe he was younger), a terrible Bond girl (Tanya Roberts), lame action sequences (fire engine chase, anyone?), and long stretches of sheer boredom! Christopher Walken as Zorin was the only saving grace of that piece of crap!
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Seriously, who's going to hire an actor who may turn around and piss on you? Doesn't matter if he's right or not, show some goddamn loyalty to the people who fucking gave you a job and cut you a check. Ungrateful bastard.
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Bwahahaha. I'm surprised Dame Judi Dench is still on board. Or not surprised. On a recent Craig Ferguson, Pierce Brosnan seemed a little jilted and jealous discussing how much Dench likes Daniel Craig.
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...about "Transformers": <br><br> "Oh no," he barks with a laugh. "They're not making Transformers III, are they?" ..."Michael Bay talks to me on the phone. I've never met him. We were doing the voice for the second one and I still hadn't seen the first one. I still didn't really know who the characters were and I didn't know what anything was. It's a voice job, for sure..."<br>--from an interview with "The Age"
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I find it absolutely hilarious that people are getting all up in arms about Bond being re-booted. I'm sure people grew up watching Sean Connery and Roger Moore (and later Timothy Dalton and Pierce Brosnan) take turns playing Bond. Some of them got certain aspects of the character, some not so much. But how many people here have actually stuck their nose into more than one Ian Fleming Novel? I've read several and have watched pretty much every Bond committed to film, numerous times. Daniel Craig has been the most successful in actually "capturing" the novel version of the character. As far as Casino Royale and QOS are concerned, I find them to be good companion pieces (granted QOS could ahve tweaked some of the angles to better capture the action) As far as the whole Bolivia angle? People, Bond was systematically trying to take down the ENTIRE Quantum network, the whole Mr Green angle was just one aspect of a larger picture(Quantum having their operatives everywhere undermining certain things to benefit their organiziation.)
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but anybody that says casino royale is shit is a fucking idiot. What a dumb thing to say. Almost villainous. Wait....
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Just sayin'. Was definitely shot for a home screen however. The action is comprehensible and to this eye often artful in composition and impact. Don't expect anyone to agree with me. lol.<p> I do expect a more self-contained plot for the next one. It was asking a lot of the audience to carry over the finer details of Casino Royale to get full comprehension of the story in Quantum. I know I strained to remember things and put it together.<p> Can't wait for the next one. Lots of promise there.
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That's how I felt about Quantum, the whole thing felt like a wasted opportunity. It had like two brief quality moments of Bond coolness that they could have built around like the Opera Eavesdropping scene. The film did have a great look, The editing however was terrible. Foster took some great footage and then hacked it to bits. WHY??! The script was also rushed and thrown together. WHY??! Casino Royale was so well done, and it set the stage perfectly for a great revenge story and what we got was so far away from what could have been a solid sequel...what a wasted opportunity that will never come again! and don't get me started on that weak ass Jack White opening theme song ughh. The bright side is that it will be hard for the next Bond director to do any worse than Marc Foster did.
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Feb. 19, 2010, 7:22 p.m. CST
I was reading on another website that Daniel Craig may not do an
by Tom_Bombadil
Seriously I was reading that Daniel Craig might be done with James Bond. I don't know if its b.s. but I was surprised to read it.
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The difference between the writing of CR and Qos was that one put story first and the latter put action first. In CR they made the action scenes go with where the story led them. They said, okay Bond’s tracked the terrorist to the airport and needs to stop him, how can we make this action packed and interesting. In QoS Marc Foster said I want a car chase and boat chase and an airplane chase in this movie no matter what, now let’s write a story that puts bond in those situations. It’s a fundamental difference that shows they didn’t have much of a script to work with in QoS.
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QoS had an utterly ineffectual villain who never for even an iota of a second made me feel dread or hatred. Plus Bond was a stone cold mofo without a sense of humor and I missed the cocksure wittiness that was prevalent in Casino Royale.
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Google "sam worthington 007". Hopefully it won't be as bad as the other aussie Bond, George Lazenby!
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If he wants to talk shit, then let's watch the rest of his career from this point.
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I hate, and I mean really hate, that man. He's a charismaless slab of wood, who's bafflingly incapable of hiding his Australian accent. Do you really want that, a one-level simp playing Bond with a blazingly obvious Australian accent?
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The villain does he have a volcano lair? An island sanctuary? No he's in a wharehouse where Bond can peak through the chainlink fence at him sitting inside.
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He used his wits more than brawn to get out of situations or take people out. Also he never let his dick think for him while even Connery would get into stupid shit for that. "For England" He was quite possibly the most professional Bond where the mission was first above everything.
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Huh, never would have known.
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Quantum's script was quite interesting. Unfortunately it was directed by someone who had no business directing a Bond film. And the end result was a film that looked like it was filmed by a bunch of high schoolers high on Pixie Stix.
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Seriously....he does two films where he's given a brief but pivotal role. Then calls them shit. If Casino Royale was shit, why do a sequel? He sounds like he comes from the same esoteric Cunt School that Alec Guinness did (doing three Star Wars films; then slagging them for the remainder of his days).
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Feb. 19, 2010, 10:13 p.m. CST
Yes! How dare he be a working actor and honest! Hang him!
by Stegman84
Let's face facts, 99% of all actors in the film business takes their roles strictly based on the fact that it's an available job and/or a good paycheck, 98% of them just happen to lie about it and act as if every role was done 'for the love of it' and that they carefully pick and choose every project with great care and dedication, when that's simply just not the case in the overwhelming majority of cases. This guy is just honest about the fact that he didn't like the films and he did them strictly for the money. So what? He was still completely professional and did the job he was hired to do, he still did his best with the role he was given, why does he have to love the films as well, or lie about doing so? If anything, I give him props for his honesty, particularly in an industry where the usual response is to sell your soul and act like you love and are proud of every film you've done, and that you have a great experience on every single set working with every single person. The guy was honest and didn't give a bullshit smoke and mirrors pat answer, and now he's being crusified for it. Is it any wonder most actors lie all the time?
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And i agree with him the last two movies lacked the spirit of a real Bond movie.
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They are the two worst Bond films ever, worse than the Lazenby ones and the Dalton era. Craig is a joke as Bond, he looks like a Russian mafia thug and not Bond at all.
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wow you are a fucking moron...damn i was right the first time.
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Feb. 20, 2010, 1:09 a.m. CST
Quantum is better if you don't think of it as a separate movie
by Tall_Boy66
It's the third act of Casino Royale. All of the character development is done in the first two acts, so the third act can just be bang bang boom boom. Too bad Mr. White shat all over the series, I thought he was starting to be developed as The Big Bad. But, where was I? Oh, yes. Casino Royale - great movie on it's own. Casino Royale + Quantum of Solace - great movie with a cool explosion filled third act. Quantum of Solance on it's own - eh.
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'esoteric Cunt School'. That might be the funniest, most apt descriptions of that actor type. I feel you've looked inside my head and judged my pysche to perfection. You are a genius!
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what a ungrateful ass
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He's gonna be too busy making GREEN FUCKIN' LANTERN incredible, a franchise that'll likely outgross the entirety of the next Bond in it's first week.
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commentary. bland. bond. watching comic book confidential. young r. crumb. younger than in crumb. looks young. young crumb.<br /> <br /> stttttooooooooooooonnnnnneeeeeeeeeeedddddd! keep on truckin'
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Bond is really quite limited in terms of character development. He goes on a mission, gets the girl, saves the day. Nothing wrong with that, but what more can Craig bring that we haven't seen? We've seen his angst, his desire for vengeance, his drinking. So now what? More of the same, right?
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Just because someone doesn't play the Hollywood darling for once, you call him bitter and resentful.<p> It's refreshing to see an actor who doesn't see himself as being a PR man, too. Of course he's allowed an opinion on his past movies; you're just not used to someone bucking the trend and actually saying what they think. If you read most actors' body language and not just the prosaic sweet nothings that come out of their mouths, you'll see that a whole lot of them hate a lot of the stuff they've been in. They just don't have the balls that this guy has.
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...Loved CASINO ROYALE even more, but the thing I've always loathed about the whole James Bond phenomena was its cutesy take on the far more fascinating world of actual geopolitics.<p> Having studied the topic for decades now, I can tell you...the "Quantum" multinational/investment organization rings 100% true. And the Bolivian water suppression scheme depicted in the movie? Actually HAPPENED. Might not be the cup of tea for you lot who think the more brainless something is the "funner" it is, but this is the first time I've actually found myself looking forward to a new Bond flick.<p> With or without Mr. White. Whatever, dude.
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There's no Movie Bond in it! And the scripts were just awful! If you liked them and Daniel Craig, then GO read the books! <p> Give us Brosnan back! <p> But DON'T give us shitty CGI like in DAD. Also just awful!
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For broken or scarred Heroes we now have Jack Bauer and Jason Bourne! <p> Accept it!
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Ala Res Dogs. Thank god I havent wasted any time watching them. I have however lost some of it reading the headline and this talkback. I hate to say it but the new ones try to hard to be like Borne flicks. I was watching a Gene Wilder flick the other day called Sherlock Holmes Smarter Brother. I noticed how the action scenes were framed and it actually reminded me why I dislike todays new action films. The camera gets too fancy when the action shit happens. Kevin Smith should be hired as AD to film all the action scenes in these new movies, and they should litterally give hime a pair of shoestrings. So he doesnt have the funds to do anything fancy. Atleast the fucker keeps the camera still long enough to see whats going on.
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Ala Res Dogs. Thank god I havent wasted any time watching them. I have however lost some of it reading the headline and this talkback. I hate to say it but the new ones try to hard to be like Borne flicks. I was watching a Gene Wilder flick the other day called Sherlock Holmes Smarter Brother. I noticed how the action scenes were framed and it actually reminded me why I dislike todays new action films. The camera gets too fancy when the action shit happens. Kevin Smith should be hired as AD to film all the action scenes in these new movies, and they should litterally give hime a pair of shoestrings. So he doesnt have the funds to do anything fancy. Atleast the fucker keeps the camera still long enough to see whats going on.
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WTFIUWT?
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I'm glad you're not a real Judge! <p> How can you say you haven't watched CR or QOS, then follow by saing they try too hard to be Bourne flicks? <p> Maybe they do, maybe they don't. But if you haven't seen them, how can you know?
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I'm a massive Bond fan & I really loved QOS! <p> Yeah, some of the action scenes weren't filmed the way you'd expect from a Bond movie, but by the same token, Forster made a lot of brave choices & did a lot of things that strayed from the formula, (the Opera fight scene for example, was about as brave a choice as I've ever seen in a Bond movie..& it's probably the most popular scenen for most people). <p> I admit I was a little underwhelmed when I saw it at the Cinema, but it really grows on you!
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card players? Because I'm not, and watching scene after scene after scene of people sitting at a fucking table in a supposed action movie pissed me off. Lots of talkbackers have said how Quantum put them to sleep, but at least there was no half-hour bore-fest of people sitting at a damn card table. I don't care that the movie has "casino" in the title, that didn't mean they had to have a painful marathon of "Ooh, jack of spades! Wow!" bullshit. In the theater, each time I thought they were finally done with that sequence (like the stairwell fight), we were forced back into that fucking card game! Quantum was much better, in so many ways, than Casino. That having been said, if you excise about five hours off the card game, Casino is a very watchable action movie.
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Great Bond novel. It would make a perfect movie for Daniel Craig's Bond.
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I just found out that Sam Worthington was in the running to play Bond before Craig was chosen. What the hell is it with this guy? He's considered for everything!! It's almost like a joke now. Will we one day see a dozen franchises all starring Sam? Hey, what can we go see at trhe movies, hun? How about Sam Worthingtonton in Dracula:Year Zero, or Sam Worthingtonton in Avatar 2, or Sam Worthingtonton in Clash 2, or Sam Worthingtonton as Jack Ryan again? Actually, I have no problem with him, I just feel like saying something pointless.
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of not making a sequel. All the other Bond movies were one shot stories and that's it. After Bond took out Goldfinger, he was never spoken of again. In fact each film felt like none of the preceding Bond films even exhisted. Sure, some of the characters made numerous apperances, but they never spoke of past missions.I realize this is a minor detail, but I think they hurt the franchise by trying to make the "new" Bond a continuos timeline.
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Global fresh water resources are only going down with a constantly rising world population. The plot is timely, it makes sense (enough for a movie), and what more precious resource is there than water? It beats Casino Royale's threat of terrorists getting money. They get money anyway, what's a few more hundred thou? I'm really surprised at the hate for Quantum and the love for Casino. It's baffling.
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I came back home after a shitty day at work & read this TB. Then I thought "Fuck it, why not watch it again?"..<p> It's great! Someone above said how it's better on a TV screen. I agree. Granted, that's because Forster's editing was really fast! Like, for example, another guy mentioned the Henchman's wig coming off when he's tripped down the stairs. I never noticed that at the cinema. I did now, but I had to look for it. Bad mark for Forster? Yep. BUT he also did a few groundbreaking things, (at least in terms of Bond movies).<p> I already thought this was an artistically brave movie, but watching it now..visually, it's actually pretty stunning too! I'm on the dogfight scene now & it looks fucking great! <p> It also makes Casino Royale look dated. Whether that's a good thing or not, I'm not sure.
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I'm so glad that everyone hates Quantum and loves Casino Royale. Me too.
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A View To A Kill was the absolute worst (with Die Another Day and Tomorrow Never Dies real close 2nd and 3rd). I love Christopher Walken, but Max Zorin was his worst character ever (except maybe Balls of Fury). Add to that the fact that Roger Moore at that point had more wrinkles on his face than exist on the entirety of Abe Vigoda's dick, and Moneypenny looked like my great-grandmother she was so old. Charlie's crappiest Angel was a shitty Bond girl, too, and the Patrick Macnee scenes were just plain silly. The only saving grace was that it had that hot chick from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, but even that couldn't help. It was awful in every conceivable way.
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"everyone dies - so 2 is enough for me" <p> What. The fuck. Does that mean?
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Marc Forster was a horrible choice for directing Bond. Don't get me wrong, he's made some truly excellent films like Finding Neverland and (the only Will Ferrell movie I can stand upon repeated viewings not called Anchorman) Stranger Than Fiction. But he had absolutely no experience directing a high-octane action flick, and it showed. It was like he had no idea what to do so he watched the Bourne films and said "AHA! Shaky cam is the answer!" And that's when we, the 007 faithful, got fucked. I mean, hiring a dramatic director (and unproven action director) for a franchise as big as Bond would be like hiring a virtual unknown with one romantic indie to direct an action franchise as big as Spider-Man. And that would just be fucking stupid.
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It has some of the worst dialog as well. I seem to recall at some point walken actually says the title of the film and we're supposed to go " ahhh that's why its called A view to a Kill". He might as well have looked directly into the camera and winked when he said it. Plus, of all the women Bond could get, he nails Grace Jones. Man that is one ugly woman.
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and I now understand why there are no reviews for it on AICN. I love me some Marty Scorcese, but that was a decent ending preceded by two hours of mind numbingly dull confusion with ridiculously slow pacing. I give Scorcese credit for having the balls to try something new and a little Hitchcockian, but it is a sad failure that makes me rrot for his next film, whatever that may be, to wash the taste out of my mouth. Absolute disappointment, and that really saddens me coming from Scorcese. My guess (hope) is that AICN had too much respect for him to post a bunch of bashes against his new film (the other option is that AICN just forgot to review it like they forgot about Roy Disney, Ed McMahon, forgot to hire a decent TV editor, and and forgot about the (once upon a time) weekly DVD column.) Either way, save your money and if you're really a die-hard Scorcese fan like I am, just wait til video so you don't have to show your disappointment in public.
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While CR is the better of the two, they are best taken as one continuous story, like Kill Bill 1 & 2. If you watch them back to back, QOS becomes a better movie because it's just the last Act of the Bond origin story. But if they don't at least bring Q and Moneypenny back in the next one, then we're getting too far away from what truly made the Bond character popular for the past five decades, faithfulness to the book version notwithstanding. The books had some popularity upon their original release, but the films are what truly made Bond an iconic character, and, until the increasing ludicrousness of each successive Brosnan film (of which Goldeneye was the only really good one), it worked. Bring back witty Bond, just don't get so over the top as the Brosnan Bonds did (and I don't blame Pierce but rather the writers of that garbage. Brosnan was a good Bond in some bad films).
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The introductory Bond does well, the second which usually is shorter and more actioned packed gets blasted..by the third and forth they go old school, so I expect Daniel Craig to be in space..with silver miniskirted space babes by the fourth one which will be the highest grossing of the bunch at which time..they will reset the franchise back to basics. But I would love to see a producers expanded cut of Quantum of Solace..cuz it does have a good old school Bond plot sloppily executed or edited in this case.
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Pretty fucking awful...although I thought it had a good plot. Next in line for worse has got to be Die Another Day....I love all the other ones flaws and all..and MoonRaker is so outta control I actually feel like I'm high when i watch it. But the biggest piece of shit movie ever and I don't count it as a Bond film is Never Say Never Again...absofuckinglutely unwatchable and humiliating..Sean Connery looks like an old fag with blue eyeshadow...I guess thats when the gay rumors started.
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I hate it for two awful completely unintelligible fight scenes. I had zero clue what was happening during the gunfight near the beginning. Some of the combat scenes make Bruce Wayne's fight in Batman Begins look like a masterpiece. <p><p> Further, it kind of dragged in places and the villain was a joke. <p><p> The story in Quantum of Solace may have been more socially relevant and more aligned with my personal ideology, but the story in Casino was more substantial and better executed.
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And yes, I get that fun equates to campy in fanboy speak, but I don't give a fuck.
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They are shit .... very polished shit, but shit anyway. Casino is impossible to enjoy more than once and Solace is dire.
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And have a great adversary for Bond (like Anthony Hopkins). <p> And release Daniel Craig from his contract...
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I mean seriously, a Ted Turner/Rupert Murdoch type villain trying to pull a William Randolph Hearst/Charles Foster Kane in the age of modern media? He'd be outed on the web before he took out his first British boat.
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It's 2 hours of really fucked up, kind of beautifully fucked up, though, nightmare visuals that are actually somewhat emotionally touching. and then 15 minutes of bullshit. Awful, awful, AWFUL ending! Burn it! Burn it with FIRE!
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I hate when they say we're going back to the books for Bond, fuck the books. When i want the books i'll read them, when i watch the movie i want OVER THE TOP ESCAPISM. That is why Goldfinger, Spy Who Loved Me, You Only Live TWice are the best of them all. so fuck you nancy ass bitches who want all that realism horesshit aobut lowering the water price and villains in fucking chainlink fence WHAREHOUSES. go eat a fat dick fags.
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I didn't like the big twist, but I loved the little one in DiCaprio's last words, "Is it better to die as a hero or live as a monster"...I liked the final choice was truly his...thought the acting was great by all involved...but maybe it was that we saw an 11:20 show that didn't actually start until a quarter to midnight, but I went with a few friends and the three of us were more than a bit confused at most of it...it looked cool but didn't make a whole lot of sense, and the "twist" didn't make up for that enough to make me want to watch it again - I'm not trying to be one of those "it sucka and all involved or anye who likes it should die" trolls that run rampant on this site, I just really didn't enjoy it as a Martin Scorcese film. I give him points for having the balls to try something new, to even try to emulate Hitchcock in a way, but it just didn't work. I'm sure his next film will rock.
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Put DiCaprio, Deniro, and Pesci in a movie together. But as it stands, Scorcese and DiCaprio working together are 2 for 4.
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On a side note, Hollywood's obsession for unnecessary remakes was painfully obvious yet again in the previews we got before Shutte Island last night: A-Team (made me wanna cry/vomit at the same time), Death At A Funeral (looked funny and they got the same midget but it'll be hard to improve on the giggle-inducing original), and Scorcerer's Apprentice (Mickey Mouse cartoon becomes shitty Nicholas Cage hairpiece...er, movie that further kills his career as only he and Eddie Murphy can). Remakes are completely fucking ludicrous!
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put it very well at the gold globes.. "marty and i are like an old married couple, we had great times together, but we dont share the same bed anymore."
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Even more ludicrous, keeping in mind Hollywood's desire to remake everything, picture this: Martin Scorcese trying his hand at comedy, creates an Oscar-caliber remake of Three Men & A Baby with Deniro, Dicaprio, and Pesci. Hijinks ensue when they try to whack the priest that diidled the baby that someone left on their doorstep. Then Pesci learns that DiCaprio had had a relationship with the Priest for years, so he takes him out to the woods and beats the shit (and blood) out of him with a nine iron. Deniro finds out what he did and has to kill Pesci, but Pesci is able to get one good shot in, too. They both drop to the floor, dead, and the final shot is the baby, crying in the crib, covered in blood spatter. Fade to black. Cut. Print. Oscar.
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It also had ridiculously sloooow pacing. For as good as the ending was for me, I could see the twist coming a mile away, and it took way too long to get there.
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Feb. 20, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST
Casino Royale and Quantum are worse than Jay Leno
by TakingScorpiosCalls
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Am I the only one who, at the beginning, laughed aloud when the requisite old man said, "Storm's a'comin'"?
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You're complaining about Tomorrow Never Dies villain in a series that from day one had a villain in an island lair trying world domination.
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good. day. sir.
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Feb. 20, 2010, 3:57 p.m. CST
Don't you just love it when actors become brave but are still st
by Proman1984
This guy may have opened his mouth but what he said was dumb. Casino Royal rocks.
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Is a glorified Nokia commercial and boring at that.
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yes but Dr. No wasn't a boring villain, and, for the times, was more practical than it seems today, as back then, with cold war paranoia rampant, someone threatening the world through nuclear proliferation was a valid, if paranoid, fear. But at the time of Elliot Carver in TND, no news mogul, however powerful, could pull all that off in secret. Someone would blab something about it on the web.
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Just like us regular folks that more times than not, our jobs just aren't fulfilling. Anyone on here that is whining over this should get a grip of reality. He did a good job with the role. We liked how well he played the role. It's just not his cup of tea. And remember, Sir Alec Guinness, absolutely HATED doing the original Star Wars trilogy because of the shit scripts. But my generation (and I assume others) love him for his work in the films.
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contrary to what fans have assumed. In fact, he was very complimentary about the first film. Correspondence to memebers of his family and friends were published some years back, revealing EXACTLY what he thought of Star Wars, especially after seeing it for the first time at the premiere. He praised the first film in a private letter to a relative as a 'vivid experience', that it had some good messages and that 'eveything seemed drab and grey' when he exited the theater into the real world again. His only complaints were that 'much of the dialogue (was) swallowed in noise' and that 'the final battle at the end went on ten minutes too long' (typical old man complaints). So he did not hate Star Wars by any means. It was only post '77, with the increasing fan attention, that soured him to the experience, and he changed his public feelings accordingly. Apparently he even saw The Phantom Menace before he passed and actually liked it, being particularly impressed by McGregor's impersonation of the young Obi Wan.
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He did state several times he did not regret doing Star Wars.
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I'm British & my teeth would make Tom Cruise cry real baby tears. Frankly, I'd make that cunt jump on my couch a million times just to have a glimpse of my dental perfection.<p> Cliches are good at the right time, but when you're on a movie website (especially talking about a British secret agent, with..good teeth)..& it's well known that Mike Myers started the "Bad British teeth" thing as a joke, you should probably give up. <p> Believe it or not, you can't have bad teeth because you come from a particular country. <p> Besides, you're American so probably fat & stupid, with a gun. <p> See?
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True words.
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... I watch that opening chase up the crane etc. Then I turn on something else.
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Really shit.
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He didn't have much to do in either movie, but it might have been nice to develop Mr. White into a more substantial baddie. By the way, in 10 years, when the Bourne movies are a distant memory, Quantum will be more appreciated. I think it will improve over the years.
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And these new films have managed to interest me in a way no other Bond movies ever did before. Keep up this kind of work and I'm in, end of post.
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but Sean Connery is hands down the best Bond ever. Craig's version is an interesting twist on the character, but he can never fill Mr. Connery's shoes. Sean Connery brought the character to life and is the actor that all other Bonds are compared to.
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I didn't recognize his name or his character's name, so I went to Google Images and I still can't remember a single scene with him in it for the life of me.
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Dr. No, Goldfinger, You Only Live Twice, From Russia With Love, and Thunderball. To be honest, Spy Game was more intriguing and satisfying than QoS and Casino Royale. They both felt like recycled Bourne Identity films. Casino Royale was definitely the better film though.
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The first hour was some of the best Bond I've ever seen. I think Living Daylights is the best Bond film though. Timothy Dalton as 007: one tough motherfucker. Plus he helps the Afghanis take on the Russians! Epic!
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That's pretty much the best. Afterward there a few ok ones like Spy Who Loved Me or Goldeneye to showcase he could do it in post hippie era and post cold war.
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even though i loved QUANTUM (CASINO was brilliant up to the chase on the building site - but fucking boring for the following 2 hours)
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ive been saying the same thing for years!
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when Tomb Raider was in theatres for the first time, i told a friend after seeing it there, that Daniel Craig might be the next Bond. little did i know at the time that i would be dead on. i deserve worship people.
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the movies suck! piece of shit movies
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Feb. 21, 2010, 8:34 a.m. CST
JESPER CHRISTENSEN MISQUOTED/MISUNDERSTOOD - FOLLOW UP - NOW ALL
by sir_pirvan
Danish newspaper has a follow up with Jesper (Mr. White) saying that he was misquoted more or less deliberately by the journalist in the original interview. What he said now was that: 'That I should have said that James Bond is 'shit' must be a misunderstanding. I have said no such thing and I do not feel that at all.' Jesper adds: 'I have the greatest respect for the creators of James Bond. They have managed to create their own complete meta-universe, almost a genre of their own, consisting now of 23 movies. It is a wholly remarkable achievement.' Finally, Jesper concludes: 'I think Casino Royale is a super-good movie in which I was proud to participate. I thought my character was really becoming a lot of fun and would in principle have continued it if it had been relevant.' 'If I had thought Bond was bad, I would not have been in them' Hope this sheds some light on it. Original article in danish news, ask me if you want a ref. :) /end debunking
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he did say them, i heard it
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Casino was good though.
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Hey Diox,sad news for the SG-1 Universe. Shanks has said, it's unlikely they will do another one. <p> I would have been happy with some new RDA and SG-1 material... but...
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Whatever, Prima donna. Quantum is clearly a chapter in a much larger story. And, IMHO, Casino finally washed the bad taste of all the over-the-top Brosnon films and the borderline flaming nature of the Moore films.
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lets give the man with the least amount of charisma in Hollywood a job that requires 100 percent charisma. Genius move there if it happens.
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that Sean Connery defined James Bond, I personally just like the look and functionality of Daniel Craig. If they sent Craig and all the other Bond actors (in their prime)to a real spy school, Craig would come out cold-ass killer for real, the rest would give up after a week. Connery is locked in to The Untouchables for me, probably because I just never could give a damn about Bond until the recent Craig versions.
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compaired to the Bond movies of the past the modern Bond movies are poor, worse than XXX and the Bourne movies.
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CASINO wasn't all that bad. I liked it. But, oh, QUANTUM was AWFUL. Couldn't even finish watching it. Even as a mere action thriller the editing was causing me nausea. Pity, because I think Craig makes for a pretty decent, older, cynical Bond.
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Written with tabloid readers in mind, gawd help the Bond franchise the people running it just won't loosen the bloody purse strings.
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It's the first ever Bond film to try something completely different and for me it works very well, my friend Chris hated it but he is a farmer.
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If you think the villain in QoS was weak then you weren't paying attention to the point of the film and didn't understand it.<p> If you thought the plot was weak then you didn't understand it.<p> If you thought QoS was shit then you didn't understand it.<p> If you didn't like QoS then you are silly and didn't understand it.
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Good for you, Jesper. Seeing as Bond is finally going in a somewhat entertaining direction with the two movies you regard as "shit," I don't want you in them or even close to them.<p> Good riddance, buddy! Have a nice career.
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Dude, if you're right, it's because the twits who made this edited it for the Attention Deficit Disorder crowd who can't keep their minds on a scene if it lasts more than about 1/8th of a second. The car chase and then the rooftop chase both were a pain to try to follow because of the constant camera angle shifts that left one unsure what/who one was looking at. The Connery Bond films had exciting sequences, yet they didn't feel the need for MTV video-style editing. Wherefore you KNEW what was going on.
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Second Unit Director Dan Bradley, not Marc Foster, so these people who say "Foster can't direct action for shit!" are just showing their ignorance of general film making, and Bond in particular. 2nd Unit Director on this was also stunt co-ordinator on........... well, let's just say you'll spot his style when you see it!<p> What's wrong with conveying the chaos and noise and delirium and confusion of a situation like that on screen?<p> The way some people here drone on anyone would think Bourne pioneered hand held cam work or close in/quick cut methods for bringing the audience into the middle of the fight... but they didn't. Didn't even re-invent it for the espionage genre. That's a clue, go look it up.<p> I didn't have a problem working out the geography of the scene or understanding what was going on, but then again I can talk and walk at the same time and read without my lips moving.
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"Mr. White's Adventure with the Hot Bond Byotch" <P> Fuck off you are already forgotten.
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Hmm, Danish actor Jesper Christensen is well known for his somewhat overly free speech. Acknowledged as one of the prime European thespians of the past 20 years or so, he nevertheless has a reputation as being difficult (and very purist) on set. He probably -like other non-American directors and actors- have ambivalent feelings towards the studio-based money machinery of tinseltown. From his recent track record, it looks like he's doing a 'Scorsese' i.e. shifting between personal, independent films and bigger-budget no-brainers.
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Really? Ugh. I like Bond movies, but the best ones (from recent years) are the two Martin Campbell-directed films, Casino Royale and Goldeneye. <p> I like Brosnan equally as I do Craig in the role. I just think Brosnan was ill served when the series went off into the Roger Moore-Bond mode, i.e. high camp.
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Fucking quality movie. Dalton was 10 years too early.
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For me Sean Connery was hands down the best Bond because he was the only one who successfully combined ALL of the elements I wanted to see embodied in the onscreen version of 007. Menancing and dangerous, witty and suave, smart, but a sucker for a beautiful woman. George Lazenby - excellent in the action scenes. "Meh" with respect to everything else. Roger Moore - great with the quips, but not the least bit menancing. Plus the constant cartoonish aspects of many of the Moore-era Bond films (with the possible exception of For Your Eyes Only)quickly wore then. Timothy Dalton - had the serious, steely-eyed goverment-sanctioned killer persona down pat. Also good at showing real emotion when someone close to him was hurt or killed. Totally devoid of humor, though, and a light moment every once in a while adds to my overall enjoyment of Bond movies (the Roger Moore Bonds had WAY too many light moments!) Pierce Brosnan - I agree with those who say he was a good Bond saddled with bad scripts. Goldeneye was clearly his best, but I think Brosnan had some nice moments in each of his outings as Bond. Daniel Craig - took some getting used to, especially his looks, but I think he has proven to be one of the better Bonds, maybe second only to Connery, but another missed opportunity like QOS could knock him down a peg.
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He's an excellent writer. And no, Frost/Nixon and The Queen didn't seem like made for TV movies, they're easily among the best films of the noughties. Just because a movie doesn't have big 'splosions doesn't mean it's not supposed to wind up on the silver screen, fool.
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I could not stay interested in Quantum of Solace. Most boring Bond movie ever. And the end is ridiculous... that factory blows up in perfect 5 metre sections, and the director seems to show every explosion 1.5 times.
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I think it's the best Bond since the Connery ones. Casino Royale was okay but I found it too small-scale compared to the type of Bond I like, which is Bond versus a world threat. <p>What was the threat in Quantum of Solace? Wasn't the entire conflict about rights to drill for water or some shit?
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Feb. 22, 2010, 11:21 p.m. CST
Bond 23: Upping the prices on.... car insurance
by TakingScorpiosCalls
A villain realized Bond wrecks all his cars so he enters the insurance business and ... SINGLEHANDEDLY causes the price to RISE on all automobiles... after 30 years of working up the chain. BADA BADAA BADADADA BADADADAA.
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Casino was one of the best Bond movies in a LONG time. Quantum was a major letdown. Still have high hopes for Daniel Craig.
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The whole point of QoS is NOT the villains scheme. The point is the villains themselves and NOT just Dominic Greene.<p> The point is the murky world we live in where Governments are in cahoots with corporate interests, or Governments are no longer full of people serving THE PEOPLE.<p> Where the CIA can be in bed with a corporate cabal.<p> Where a corporate cabal can reasonably expect to get away with controlling something way more precious than oil.<p> The point is that Governments have had their day controlling things and no matter how shitty Governments may be, what is coming now is much, much worse.<p> And the point is that Bond discovers all this whilst trying to find out why he was betrayed by the only women he ever truly loved, torn between a need for revenge, a degree of comfort (or Quantum of Solace, if you like - do you see what I did there??), and the mission in hand.<p> The point is further complicated by the fact that he is, himself, a pawn of the very Governments in decline or in cahoots with the Quantum cabal.<p> And this Cabal does not have comedy meatheads as muscle/henchmen as it doesn't need them. It is something far more terrifying because of what it is, what it can do and where it's tentacles reach.<p> The film moves at a break-neck speed without pointless exposition and anything in the way of fat. It does not hold your hand and treat you like an idiot, it just "shows" without the "tell". It trusts it's audience to not be fucking retards.<p> The only mistake they made was clearly crediting people with above average intelligence.
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Not only does it explode in conveniently-sized chunks, we see the film fall prey to that ridiculous Hollywood convention where people outrun explosions. Sorry, unless you're the Flash or Superman, ain't going to happen. Or how about when he shoots the hydrogen/fuel/explosive thingie to blow out the wall. Check out the size of the blast OUTSIDE the wall. Then imagine what it must have been like INSIDE. Yet they survive? With NO cover? Did the director have no idea of how ludicrous that scene was?
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Yes, like invisible cars and megalomaniacs with private space-shuttles. I fear there is a strawman argument being advanced here without the desire or ability to progress to tinman and ironman.
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THANK YOU.<p>At least, somebody getts it.<p>The people complaining here probably wanted to see Michael Cain come in as Q in the next one, Scarlett Johansen as a Bond girl, and have Craig use some laser cutting watch.<p>Bond vs Immadinnerjacket for the nukes of Iran!111
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No worries Blest. I think the film serves as a perfect book-end to Casino Royale but is also a fucking brilliant example of this "New Bond" on it's own.<p> It contains so many cool, kick ass moments of sheer Bondian excellence, quite a few with the Connery sheen of thuggish sophistication, some with Moore cheek, many with pure Fleming coldness that I wonder what the hell some people were watching.<p> The way Bond keeps his shit together during the opening car chase, culminating in his very functional emptying of an entire clip into the Alfa in the quary when he finally get's the gun free.<p> "It's time to get out."<p> The reactions to Mitchell with the chair. Plus the way he dispatches Mitchell in the art gallery.<p> The fight with Slate. Holding him down and checking who is around whilst waiting for Slate to bleed out from a Bond inflicted scissor wound to his main artery.<p> Anything with M in it.<p> The opera, including "You people really need to find somewhere else to meet." and with the Special Branch bodyguard on the roof. "Who are you working for?" "Piss off!" DROP! <p> "In a minute that phone is going to ring, do me a favour and tell whoever it is that I was heading for Cairo?"<p> The fact that in common with a LOT of Fleming he doesn't get the girl.<p> "Hello, we are teachers on a sabbatical and we have just won the lottery."<p> "I give you about 2 hours before you think that drinking that is a good idea."<p> Bond's confrontation with Youseff and the Canadian agent who has been 'honeytrapped' in Moscow.<p> "I never left."<p> And this is just off the top of my head. In fact, fuck it, I am going to watch it again as I am reminding myself just how good it is!<p> Opinions vary and, like assholes, everybody has got one. Unless you think QoS is shit in which case you didn't understand it and now nothing about Bond, cinematic or in literature.
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