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‘We Can Still Make A Deal!!’ 24 8.8!!
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There’s a lot of talk about this being “24’s” last season, even though it’s doing a whole lot better next to “House” than “Lie To Me” was. I’m guessing Fox has to bring it back for a ninth season, even if it has to do so without the expensive Kiefer Sutherland.
At the moment “24” is tied with “Bones” as Fox’s 5th highest rated series, behind “Idol,” “House,” “Hell’s Kitchen” and “Glee”:
Fox 18-49 finals (Prior weeks in parentheses; repeats in gray):
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Fox says of tonight’s installment:
President Taylor pressures CTU for progress while Jack's perilous plan has operatives panicked. As the scope of the looming threat expands, the dynamic at CTU changes and the ongoing crisis worsens. Guest Cast: Akbar Kurtha as Farhad Hassan; Nazneen Contractor as Kayla Hassan; Mido Hamada as Samir; Jergen Prochnow as Sergi Bazhaev; David Anders as Josef Bazhaev; Gene Farber as Oleg Bazhaev; Jordan Marder as Dimitri; Thomas Fiscella as Luka; Julian Morris as Agent Owens; T.J. Ramini as Tarin Faroush; Hrach Titizian as Nabeel; Clayne Crawford as Kevin Wade.
If you missed last week’s news, screenwriter Billy Ray (“Shattered Glass,” “Flightplan”) has been hired to script a big-screen Jack Bauer movie.
9 p.m. Monday. Fox.
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“Fringe: Season One” on Blu-ray, $47.99 in December and $42.99 in January, is momentarily $24.99!!
“Farscape: The Complete Series,” $129.49 last year, is momentarily $59.99. That works out to less than $15 per season!!
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would they bring it back without Kiefer? Freddy Prince Junior? Holy shit would that suck.
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I won't watch it, brotha.
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...but the knife sequence last week is easily a top ten greatest moment contender.
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James Purfoy, Kevin McKidd, Ray Stevenson, Tim Olyphant
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...one of the writers playing MW2.
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Justified is lookin' like it's gonna be a hit from the previews, Herc. Doubt he'll be the guy.
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Hell, Supernatural will be over by then, have him and Jim Beaver saving the country showing terrorists that old guys can kick ass.
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Katie Sackhoff's arc has been the only truly awful part of this season, on par with Kim vs the cougar. Season 6 is the only thoroughly terrible season. Seasons 1,4, and 5 were great, the others were pretty decent. That said, it's hard to be surprised by 24 anymore. I would love this show to go out on a high note, but I'm not sure there's any to do it at this point.
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...someone like Wesley Snipes would be a good replacement for Kiefer. But throwing him in there with the show's current setup wouldn't be a good move. The shit's tired. They really need to move away from the widescale threats and have a more personal conflict going on. If you're gonna reboot/continue the show with a new guy....or even Jack, reboot everything but the real time premise. Everything could still exist in the same universe, for potential cameos, but the formula really needs to be shaken up at this point, and no, moving things to New York isn't shaking things up.
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...is quite subdued action wise so far. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, in fact I'm genuinely loving this season so far as it seems to be building nicely towards something (even if ides comment about Katie Sackoff's arc is spot-on) with minimal subplots and extraneous characters. That said, I really cannot wait for Jack to unleash some full-on Bauer Power (TM), as glimpsed briefly in ep 1 with the axe and last ep with the knife. Suspense is quite high on the agenda this season and that I can fully get behind.
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Looks like someone outlasted Russian Guy and Daniel Jackson.....how long has Slumdog Millionaire guy's brother been cavorting with those Russian whores?
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Always works out well. =)
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Abe Vigoda, Rachel Ray, The gay kid from Glee, Jim Belushi, Dustin Diamond, Urkel and lastly everybody's favorite tomboy bean pole.
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as the DareDevil like blind CTU agent
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Now THAT would rock.
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like 80 mil for four years?
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Feb 15, 2010 2:56:01 AM CST
As much as the show is ticking clock/terrorists, it IS about Bau
by tall_boy66
They may have thought it was a ticking clock gimmick to get a full season at the start, but Jack has been through enough and been at practically the centre of 90% of the show's big emotional twist that it's as much about him as it is about fighting bad guys. Yes, there are awesome tertiary characters and some very memorable bits, but it's Jack's struggle and his emotional (or sometimes lack thereof) reaction to it. The show is about *him*. It's not really like on X-Files how they tried (and didn't quite succeed) to do the show without Scully and Mulder, but that concept is sound. 24 is more than just the gimmick and while there is mucho bloodletting, it's Bauer who really keeps the show ticking from each DEET-DOOM-DEET-DOOM-DEET-DOOM-DEET-DOOM!
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My emotionally heartfelt appeal that Jack Bauer is the core of the show, stymied by a cut off subject header. Why, God, why?
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Lots of crazy shit and scheming in that, but the core of the story is how Jack has to give a shit and save somebody even if it means sacrificing his freedom. That's where the emotional payoff is, through Jack. Without him, it's got no soul. And basically every season is wrapped around his personal arc. A lot of it has to do with Kiefer Sutherland's performance which is great Action Movie Acting, where he's emotionally closed off and terse, but there are actually layers there. Shit, the ending of Season 3? One of the best endings ever. And it's just him and it's unexpected and raw. Guy's a good actor, which is hard to pull off in an action role.
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true story...I heard that production was shut down for a week because Keifer had to undergo some sort of emergency surgery...apparently a cyst ruptured near his kidney
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.........by some crazy twist of fate, is Jack back at the helm of CTU by the end of season 8. How much of a cool ending would that be? Jack sitting in the office overlooking CTU NY as it fades out to the final ticks of the clock.
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He's repeatedly said he'll stick around as long as they'll have him. But personally, I think this teat is almost dry, so if they can find a graceful end with S8, all the better.
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wrap up 24.
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Fox are insane if they even consider trying that.
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AS let we can watch her twins as she has a meltdown and kicks ass.
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after Jack was literally Shanghaied by the Chinese at the end of what I think was the 4th season. The obvious direction the writers were going in was Jack's escape from a Chinese prison.
This plot was apparently scrapped because it would be: A) prohibitively expensive, B)Piss off the Chinese so they might ban Murdoch's satellite channels from China. C) Too similar to the plot of "Prison Break" which was premiering that season.
Instead we got the lamest season of all with Jack miraculously returned by the Chinese and the show blowing its wadd by blowing off a nuke in hour 3 or so and a lame plot about Jack's Father and Brother.
I therefore propose the following fan wank plot for the next season of 24:
Jack is retired and Married to Rack (Sure she's crazy but, Jack loves her.)
They are on a plane on their way to India for a terrorism conference where Jack is going to present a paper.
On the plane they meet an Indian counter terrorism agent. (I vote for Naveen Andrews now free from his "Lost" commitment. 24 loves to stunt cast from genre shows.)
The plane encounters mechanical difficulty and is forced to land in Myanmar (Burma).
Jack's Chinese nemesis is doing consulting for the evil Myanmar government, recognizes Jack and has the Myanmar authorities arrest Jack and Rack.
Jack asks Naveen to get word to Chloe at CTU.
Chloe needs to get Jack out. There are no American agents in Myanmar so Chloe hacks into the MI-6 computer system and sends a false message to a deep cover British MI-6 agent (I vote for Ray Stevenson) who is posing as a missionary in Myanmar to rescue Jack. Naveen who is also a stand-up guy decides that he too must try to rescue Jack and Rack. (You could also add a subplot of Naveen being a former lover of Rack if you want more character motivation.)
Fill the first 12 hours with the requisite "24" car chases, gun battles, torture, hand to hand combat and Chloe trying not to get caught doing something she isn't supposed to do to help Jack. In hour 12 Stevenson and Andrews free Jack and Rack from the prison and begin trying to make their way out of the country.
It the second 12 hours Chloe gets caught and the President has to deal with a pissed of British ambassador and an international incident.
While escaping Jack and his friends encounter an Aung San Suu Kyi like resistance leader under house arrest in Myanmar. The President decides that freeing the resistance leader is a priority and that Jack and Company must take the resistance leader with them. CTU then begins actively assisting Jack and company.
Eleven more hours of mayhem until in the last hour Jack reaches the Thai boarder. Rack gets killed by his Chinese nemesis. Jack has his mano-a-mano with the Chinese guy and of course kills him. End of Season.
The above plot has the following benefits:
1) Keefer still on show but, with him in prison for first half of season you could focus on him for maybe 10 minutes out of a 40 minute episode. Less shooting days for Kiefer equals less salary.
Starts the hand off process to other actors who have the gravitas to carry on after Kiefer is tired of doing it.
Gets the show out of the rut of terrorists are going to release a chemical, biological or nuclear weapon rut that it has been in for years.
Producers please feel free to steal my plot in whole or in part. I promise not to sue.
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Three years have passed, and We STILL don't know what deal the United States made with China to bring Jack back in Season 6.....and I thought we were going to find out!
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They should pick this guy. http://tinyurl.com/ygha58c
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Kiefer Sutherland isn't going anywhere.
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And they need their rest.
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Does that mean somebody figures out that Bubba has no idea how to run the office and sends in a replacement?
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somebody give this guy a job. this premise was better than a few seasons of 24. i like the rambo 4 angle, and to put pullo in there is a plus. you forgot, however, the little tidbit of naveen having been the one who sabotaged the plane and being a merc on the take, and part of the plot all along to deliver jack to the chinese. you know each season has to have one of those.
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Without Keifer there would be no 24.....simples.
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If they let Rack take over, but first she needs to get her fucking head on straight. I don't know if the character can handle it, or if they can make her believably handle it all after today...but the show could survive with her in the lead. Renee Walker is the best thing to happen to 24 since it started. A real coup for the writers to introduce a character so seemingly universally accepted and beloved, especially considering shes a product of the worst season of 24. I think bringing in a "new guy" to take over for Jack is a huge mistake..but letting Renee could be awesome. I'd watch that show.
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End of this season: Jack is (seemingly) dead. Season 9: Rack Bauer is independently investigating Jack's death against the wishes of everybody. A new threat is unleashed and it turns out Tony's behind it. Rack is brought in because of her work in Season 7. In the last 6 episodes it turns out Tony is working for... EVIL JACK. (That way they only have to pay him for 6 episodes. Alternatively, they can piece his scenes together from old footage.) And Evil Jack is like, "You don't understand what the Chinese did to me!" And Tony's all, "Shit, Jack, I totally forgot about that. How come you waited all this time to bring it up?" And then Rack butts in with, "You know, sometimes you don't talk about these things, like I never talked about going deep undercover with the Russian mob and being subjected to physical and sexual abuse, and then acted like I was really squeamish and surprised about everything Jack did in Season 7... girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do, y'know?" And then Tony's like, "Yeah."
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but this season has been the pits, I feel embarrassed even downloading this. compelled or something, I want to stop but I can't. it's descended into full-blown parody and I feel like an idiot for watching
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but trying to replace Jack would be a terrible idea. If only they hadn't done the 'bad Tony' thing, I could have dealt with a Tony Almeida Power Hour pretty easily.
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this season has been MEGA boring. literally none of the subplots are any good. President Boring? Boring. Hassan's sham marriage and his boring daughter dating the boring secret service dude? Extremely boring. Starbuck's "I married a redneck who's terrible at being a criminal and all I got was this sweet job at CTU where they never, ever do background checks on their employees" subplot is so fucking stupid that actually it IS mildly entertaining, but still has nothing to do with anything. The show has been so god damn stingy with parceling out Jack awesomeness this season which, let's be real here, is the only reason we are watching. And they have so far wasted the potential of NYC as a setting (recognize ANY of the city? I don't. This makes me think of Jason Takes Manhattan which was very obviously filmed in fucking Vancouver.) TRIM THE FUCKING FAT GUYS. Jack doing his thing = good. Rack Bauer going postal = good. Anything else NEEDS TO GO. I will dutifully continue watching the whole season but so far I am thinking this rivals season 6 for sheer directionless boredom. I had such high hopes after last season that they were back on their game. Maybe not. Please please get in gear, 24 writers. Drop the stupid subplots, cut your losses and make the next 16 hours about Jack knifing people in the throat. Thanks and cheers. Love, lopan.
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is like tits without nipples!
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Feb 15, 2010 11:51:42 AM CST
Need to stop all these "events" happening in a 24hr period..
by thanos0145
if there is a ninth season. Have a shorter amount of episodes so the storyline is more tighter. Then there is no more need for filler crap like the REDNECK STORYLINE with Katee Sackhoff's character.
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Its the best action thrill ride on television right now!
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i thought i was the only one enjoying HT...
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Purely because even when it was in it's Season 6 doldrums, he was immensely watchable and his passion for the show on a personal level does come through.
I'd hope this seasons first 12eps are build up, then for the final 12 we get a pure Jack vs.everyone leading to a culmination of Season 1's hinted on 'what was going on in Germany' with Naked Mandy being an assistant to the big bad - with Jack going out riding a nuclear bomb or something in a blaze of glory (oh wait Mason already did that six seasons ago). Hmm. I don't know then - just something badass but LET THE SHOW DIE WITH DIGNITY WHILST IT STILL HAS GOODWILL GOING FOR IT!!!
I've enjoyed the ride but we've gone from political espiange and stealth Jack to 'whose the next mole to breach CTU's shitty H.R department'. I rewatched most of Series 1 and 2 recently - they really REALLY still hold up and even the plots that have become staples (i.e. going dark, betrayal, moles, the 25th amendment) hold the impact for 'HOLY SHIT' moments. -
But it would kinda be a bit redundant. "I'm angry!" "I'm crazy!" "I'm angry!" "I'm crazy!" "Wait, which one am I again?"
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And where the hell is Mike Novick?
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was phenonemal. that was the best performance by an actress on that show in its entire history.
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have now been discarded. the actress who played palmers wife sherry was also great.
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when the the writers realised that real time concept was dead and buried. I loved also president logan. I great way to end season 8 would be if mandy turns up and you realise that rennee walker has been working with her and tony all along. mandy kills kim bauer. or has tony do it. jack will have lost everything. at some point there will be a major shock. something you dont see coming. which will test jack emotionally. chloe dies. and just when think he still has family. the writers that bang off a finale. jack goes after mandy and tony. that is where the movie will pick up.
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but thats the thing - the real time concept isn't dead and buried. When respected it lead to logical pacing and anticipation in the earlier series, and appreciation of good pacing in these serials is perhaps the most criminally undervalued virtue.
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I've waited six or seven series waiting for her to get killed off.
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When would a US President tell a leader from the Middle East "Do me a favor, stop cracking down on those radicals trying to take over your country- you know, the guys with weapons-grade Uranium. Cut them some slack!" Are you fucking kidding me writers? Seriously? Stop trying to write politics, you're barely able to pull off basic physics, but this shit is intolerable. And my other gripes with Season 8 are best articulated by Hitler (from DOWNFALL): http://tinyurl.com/yjvln64
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Feb 15, 2010 6:16:36 PM CST
I don't think Fox would be stupid eneough to screw the pooch..
by mr dark
If they want to play it safe and smart...put a couple of episodes that last 2 hours together to tie in the series to the movie plot..
This would keep the momentum but not risk damage to the movie if Keifer doesn't want any part of the tv series anymore...just sayin -
It's FOX!
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The tv would implode.
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Feb 15, 2010 6:48:25 PM CST
Get rid of Chloe and promote Crazy Rack to Premium ass kicker.
by stuntcock mike
Success.
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The saving the city/world plot had just got too tired. It's difficult to care about individuals when the fate of the world is at stake. At that point, the end will ALWAYS justify the means. Taking it back a notch like they did in Season 1, makes it far more interesting. Season 2 worked because (a) the timing was impeccable coming so soon after 9/11. Talk about tapping into the zeitgeist, and (b) the characters (i.e. the family about the get married) were genuinely interesting. I know I bang on about this every week, but the sqauandering of NYC as a location is a travesty. Last season, we least felt like we were in DC for real all the time. I remember having postback discussions with Shermdawg about the specific entry-ways into the White House which made it feel real (in as much as 24 can ever feel real, of course). This season though...have they even been to fucking Manhattan Island? The opportunties for epic scenes around iconic building and locations is unlimited, but no, they prefer to hang out in Queens. Still, on the bright side - CTU will make a wicked nightclub when they're done with it.
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But I would still slide a pseudopod into her!
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Johnnie Drama and his pet cougar from season 2.
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season one was incredible, 2-4 were great but it's been pretty dumb ever since. I'm not even shocked at how terrible this season is since I fell asleep midway through Redemption.
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Soulpatch can be redeemed this season and take over for next season.
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I love it Dirk!
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There's no 'taking over'.The show is about Jack. That is all.It'd be like trying to make Buffy the Vampire Slayer without Buffy the Fucking Vampire Slayer being in it!Fuck sake man.
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Feb 15, 2010 8:06:25 PM CST
What the fuck up with the stalker dude?
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
As fucked up as the Dana storyline is, having that creep ass CTU stalker turn up every time she sneaks off to take a shit -or plan a robbery, is getting annoying.
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My grandma made some great borscht - but I hate beets. I hate em!
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The reason the first 4 seasons worked was largely because of much stronger writing. It was genuinely tense. I remember Palmer and all of his storylines being just as intense as all the stuff with Jack. Also, the people at CTU felt at least remotely real and likable (Michele and Tony come to mind).
Season 5 basically killed everyone we liked off, but at least it was a badass season to end all seasons. Everything since then has been mindnumbingly awful. Even Renee, who was the only decent and competent character they managed to write these last few seasons, they've now gone and made her mopey and boring. Fucking Freddie Prinze Jr is the closest to a compelling character right now, how the fuck does that happen!!!? I think the show really should just end at season 5, with a 2 hr movie to show Jack's escape from China. -
Feb 15, 2010 8:16:49 PM CST
Why is Hastimodo called Mr. Hastings by everyone?
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
Including the fucking President?
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Feb 15, 2010 8:17:59 PM CST
Maybe a drinking game every time Hastimodo is called Mr?
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
Five dollar a shot?
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What is this, bizarro world?!? Also, for whatever reason, that Russian's calm and subdued "WHO ARE YOU WORKING FORs" really made me laugh.
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It seems like it's been months since I've seen Bauer break a dude's neck with his thighs.
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Hear the Necks Crack...
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He was even barefoot and (borderline) shirtless!
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Feb 15, 2010 8:37:22 PM CST
Dude passes out after a table rolls over?
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
Russians are pussies!
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And broken glass too!
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I love Jack
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...Evil Neil Patrick Harris is EVIL.
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...minus Jack McClane, that episode was boring as fuck.
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So, it takes 9 hours before Jack, once again, goes rogue. Seriously, what was in this episode that hasn't been in other season?
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That was an awesome highlight of the season, paying homage to Die Hard.
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Taser to the balls has to hurt. Was it just me (and my wife) but did the cut between the taking out of the Russian boss and the next scene after the commercial break where Jack is being treated for injuries feel like at least 15 minutes was missing. We actually rewound to make sure that we weren't missing something. I know if sounds like I'm quibbling, but once you get away from the whole real-time concept, then the show falls apart. That was what so wrong about the Redemption "film" (BTW, what exactly did he feel the need to redeem himself from. He'd saved Los Angles numerous times over).
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Feb 15, 2010 9:25:18 PM CST
I thought Jack was doing a Martin Riggs impersonation ala LW1..
by thanos0145
(torture scene)other than that, a BORING episode. Freckles Bauer had 2 minutes of screen time.Bathroom break everytime Redneck storyline is on screen for me. Hopefully, Starbuck ends their miserable lives next week.At least Jack and Freckles go rogue together next week.
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Finally, Season 8 showing signs of life!
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It was a good ep. Some good Jack kills plus it had The manirac running down the stairs all heaving and hoeing!
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This was a solid episode. I damn near fell out of my chair when I heard Hastings say "I defer to Jack Bauer" and President Cankles goes "Yeah, ok!" Are these bags of bureaucratic poop finally catching onto the truth that is Jack Bauer?
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Feb 15, 2010 10:00:17 PM CST
Amazing how Chloe can break into a Presidential call!
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
And no one says WTF?
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I miss that crazy bitch. She could make a far-fetched subplot full of lies and sex and murder seem believable. It's hard to come up with another character who is that believably fucking insane. Crazy ass bitch. Gotta love her.
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"I've got Jack Bauer on the line"- and Cankles is all "Oh, hey Jack- yeah, I know you saved the country and you almost died, sorry I didn't send you a fruit basket or something- what's up?"
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Feb 15, 2010 10:06:11 PM CST
I hope the hillybilly subplot finally dies a nasty death
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
Get rid of the stalker dude too
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They go to titty bars and drink beer. I finally feel like I can identify with someone on this fucking show. I don't shoot guns! I don't run up flights of stairs...
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Feb 15, 2010 10:19:06 PM CST
Doesn't CTU do background checks?
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
I mean, after how many bazillion moles, and they still screwed up yet again with Dana. I am betting she is a tranny too!
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"I've got something to tell you... I was born with boy and girl parts!" I was so ready for that line! As for the background check, I agree, it's absurd- maybe they'll explain it once her cover is blown. Maybe they'll blame Microsoft Vista. Who knows!
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Feb 15, 2010 10:27:23 PM CST
I'll Bet The Fresh Prinz would be all over that Tranny
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
Be like - 'yayess!'. She has to go down. My guess is that the hillbillies get whacked, but that her stalker finds out what she did, and busts hers by the end of the season, then the fresh Prinz beats the shit out of the stalker.
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It's a Coen Bros. movie with those redneck yokels. I half expect John Goodman to show up and explain Vietnam to them.
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That jacks's torture scars from china were no longer on his chest in this episode. Remember in day 7 after he got infected the c.d.c. made him strip to his undies and they saw his scars and he said he's had them. Yeah they were not there tonight
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Feb 15, 2010 10:34:44 PM CST
Vietnam? Hell, he would have to explain Iraq!
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
Then again, I don't understand Iraq either, so maybe I'm as dumb as a hill billy! But at least I have my own teeth! And I shower once a week.
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of Angel (especially) ep. Apocalypse Nowish, would be an idea replacements. During that time period his character had "MAD GRAVITAS".
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Feb 15, 2010 10:46:49 PM CST
Was that a "Dammit" when Jack tried the first cell phone?
by nasty in the pasty
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Remember season 6? The Chinesse had burned his right hand through torture, and since that season ended, thre are no more scars on his hand. They're lazy with that stuiff.
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Feb 15, 2010 11:28:24 PM CST
You guys are going on about scars, Jack should be dead now!
by yackbacker
Come on!
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Would have stalker agent guy run a background check on hillbilly boy now that they know his FULL NAME and could tell he was a ex con and mystery solved.
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That's why the quote in season 3 by Ramone where he grudgingly lets Jack live and then quips "The Man Has More Lives Than A Cat" is golden. And that was in season 3!
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... 24 would get cancelled before the season completed. Like so many have said already, we watch 24 for Jack ... period. I'm old enough to have seen my share of great shows get cancelled when a lead is replaced: "Wiseguy" (Ken Wahl)and "Welcome Back Kotter" (John Travolta) immediately come to mind. Yes, we NEED good writing, but the foundation for even watching is the character. We watched an every-man on the verge of reuniting with his wife and daughter (Hour 1; Season 1) turn into a man who has nothing except the people who he trusts with his life (Chloe is the only one left) and the skills he's been trying to leave behind. Every season has seen him face the same internal battle: Killing Machine vs. Family Man ... DESPITE whatever "event" that's going on during those particular 24 hours. Intentional or not, Jack Bauer is the reason we watch and 24 without him leaves us absolutely NO REASON TO WATCH. So, either end the series or stfu & get back to writing.
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do the TB pages support HTML? I hate posting in on paragraph. hmmm ... lemme see if I can answer that for myself.
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Unless they pull a "Season 6 never happened" scenario, it would have to be Jack's ATTEMPTED escape from China.
Also, I have to wonder if they'll EVER explain what the "deep price" Palmer gave up for Jack's release from the Chinese?
One thing that has always bothered me about the show is the way it handles other characters. Take Mike Boyle for instance ... wtf happened? I'm not saying "he could be the next Jack", but he WAS a central character so what gives?
... and how about an LITTLE explanation about Josh Bauer? Is he or isn't he Jack's son raised by Graem as his own?
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Freckles Bauer looks like ET with human skin pulled super tight over his head. Try and deny it.
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...it would have to have some awesome writing and right now that's the weakest part of the show so I don't think the current staff could bring it off. It always bothered me that they missed such an awesome opportunity with Jack in China they could have done a 24 day arc in prison, cliff hangered a prison break at the end of one season and did the entire next as a 24 hour escape from China. Two whole seasons they could have milked the Chinese angle and how awesome would a prison survival story been? Maybe Jack could have found a few crusty 'Nam-era P.O.W.'s that got moved there back in the 80's and led them to freedom!They all get killed in the attempted escape and all that Jack makes it back with are some crazy stories and an o.d. green swatch of uniform from a soldiers sleeve and everyone would think Jack had lost his marbles, which he actually did in the show. It's is so predictable and so weak these days, it needs a fresh infusion of writers on there, some people who aren't afraid to veer off in carzy fucking directions and Jack needs to embrace his Jack-ness and become an unabashed joyful-killing, star-spangled icon of special ops murderousness and then take to 'em, whoever they may be, and smile gleefully while he cracks their skulls and steps on their necks!
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there are a lot of former ... ummmm ... "folks who danced on the wrong side of the law" who have government jobs. Some of the original old school hackers work for the FBI and CIA.
I wouldn't be surprised if Stalker Geek didn't go narc Starbuck out to Bubba only to have Bubba tell him "we already knew that; what's your point ... and why are you snooping into info that's above your pay grade?"
oh yeah, anyone else think that this is NOT a few months after Season 7 and that this is President Taylor's second term in office? That would mean, possibly, that Freckles' undercover work with the Russian Mob could've happened AFTER Season 7 (which would make a lot more sense; although I doubt this set of inept writers believe in the concept of continuity)
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a CTU red-shirt perhaps?20 bucks says he's dead next week.
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maaaan this shit is starting off perfect!!! serious ass music at CTU, starbuck all serious and BAM we see this redneck fuck decked out in his jeans jacket Lee's ensemble complete with a dingy ass white tshirt laid the fuck up with some trashy whore in an armpit of a strip club. u mean to tell me these geniuses broke into some storage, got 150k,drove out toasting beers and shit and ended up at a motherfuckin ass bar CHILLIN. just the good ole boys, never doin no harm. Duke boy 1 is all chill, even tryin to get this bitch some of the money!! hahahaha. but Duke 2 aint having NONE of this shit. HAHA I just noticed his uber gay leather wrist band. what kinda redneck wears that gay shit? metro white trash? Ive fucking seen it all.
now the pesky jew ctu agent is just sticking his nose into shit just cuz he cant get any. what a FAGGOT! just like a jew tho, so at least they got his character down.
im about sick of Prinze's pasty bewildered lookin face, he needs some sun STAT. these bright lights and sarah michelle gellar's stank cooch aint been kind to him over the years. and what the fuck is up with his cali/jersey bad accent?
HAHAHHHAHAHA once chloe saves starbuck with her lil white lie, the camera follows Agent Gump's awkward stroll away. like it actually fucking lingers on him. they HAD to do that shit on purpose, they must read this shit. and now its not even just the hunchback, they gave this motherfucka some kinda squint like he must be high as SHIT. matter of fact thats how im gonna view his character for the rest of the day, like he is just high as fuck on some kush and came into work anyway.
ahah whats up with these fuckin russians? first it was vlad makin Freckles make some cheese and crackers and now Sergei is fuckin chef boyardee making potato soup. this nigga really sitting here at 11pm cutting up carrots and celery sticks. never mind he just shot his fucking son in the chest not an hour ago and got some fake german fucker in his custody. i guess this is how russians "think". fucking weirdos man.
ah shit finally Jack. hahhaha still talking perfect english, they still think he is german but they evidently dont GIVE a shit that he is obviously American. HAHAHA they got some fucker looking like Paulie from godfather as a russian guarding Jack. that fat porker is gonna get it QUICK I bet. also i love seeing the new tough shit top guy henchmen. they think they are so badass, i mean these dudes are outright KILLERS,known badasses and always get ended by jack faster than it takes to say FRECKLED TITS.
ROFL@ that audacity of this pin cushion faced Russian. Nigga killed his son when his other son coulda saved him, then looks him in the face and tells him to keep the necklace as a reminder of him. wooooow. these ruskies are dirty dirty evil motherfuckas. they definitely got balls tho. i aint never crossing no soviet EVER.
ahahaha now we get the end of lethal weapon. white guys always get out of shit like this, im not worried. Bauer is gonna just wear out that generator til the battery runs out, WATCH.
paki schawtrzman's arrogant fag voice is pissing me off. SHOOT HIM ADAM, SHOOT THAT FUCKER!!! head and shoulders ass bitch. even with that none flaky hair i bet he still dont shower under his arms, nasty ass paki.
ahahaha there goes gump with those shifty eyed dog eyes again.
ewwww freckles got herpes on her lip. got dat russian aids for no got damn reason bitch!
got damn man it looks like they playing xbox 360 on all the screens at CTU. modern warfare 2 in ultra high def and shit. i bet part of their job was to catch the care package glitchers before these troublesome rods showed up.
aaaww shit starbucks gonna smoke the duke boys!!!
yo why is this henchman all alone with bauer??? motherfucka dont realize he WILL pull the okie doke on his ass any second now. HAHAHa the good ole "pretend to be knocked out to knock him out" trick. hahahahah HE USED HIS FEET! baboon jack to is on the case handling devices with amazing ballerina dexterity. twinkle toes ass nigga.
yo why did this dumb bitch just tell president slumdog she fucking tony robbins????
she basically just signed dude's death certificate, right? I mean I still think dude is gonna come out of this as the paki curtis for a few minutes but fuck, his days look numbered.
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He got over it.
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AW SHIT JACK GOT THE PIPE DOWN! GORILLA LEG GRIP FTW! listen to that music, they got fast congas sharp strings playing, some serious action shit. i feel like im right fucking there with him heart racing all fast. the music has been hella kick ass this season.
man this russian boss is smart as fuck. immediately checked the power to make sure it was his building, then knew it was bauer. dude is alright in my book, at least when he isnt killing his own blood.
HAHAH@ jack jumping out of fucking NOWHERE off screen to jump paulie. take the gun, leave the canoli.
oh man jack walking by spices and ravioli and sugars and shit...i want him to pull a macguyver and concoct a bomb and - OH FUCK two shots thru the window! Sergei with the aa-12 shottie doing WORK. hahahah but why is he shooting wine glasses? nigga, u know u done fucked up right?
HAHA@ five minutes out of CTU. lol@ them being five minutes away the entire time from Club CTU.
now jack giving sergei the smug look. fuckin HILARIOUS. dude has blood gushing from his gut, shotgun wound with shrapnel to the shoulder, was just raped with energy bolts to his nipples and he still got a rosy disposition. when life gives u torture make torture pie, I guess.
WTF@ sergei's weirdo cry and then suddenly stopping. HAHAH WTFFFF his acting has been pure WIN all episode and then he has that bizarre hiccup.
GUmp is all "fuck it jack runs this shit nigga, im high as hell so fuuccck it".
freddie prinze sure has some female lookin eyelashes, no homo. maybe he's born with it? nah motherfucka them shits look fake as hell and its really fucking bothering me, maybe its mablyline nigga.
okay who is this new kid Prinze just fucked with? hmmm another red shirt? nah im betting he is in cahoots with prinze. i dont trust NO dude with bitch eyelashes. im thinking Prinze is working with Adam from Heroes.
damn all and all another very solid episode. not alot of fucking Jack, but damn the family drama held it up quite nicely. Im officially invested 110% again. -
with your potential Bauer replacements. seriously man, you are a lil too disconnected from this shit, dont pretend man, its not your kinda show and we dont take kindly to any of your fucking choices bro. its either Bauer or nothing. just post the talkback and move the fuck along.
to everyone else, it wasnt always this way. it used to be the Bauer/Palmer show, and it was a great combo. Best TV president we have EVER seen mixed up with the best tv action hero ever, and we watched them AND their families deal with shit for a while.
Them killing off Palmer was the dumbest decision they ever made on this show, as no president has been able to hold their own in capturing our admiration like Palmer did, thus having to rely on Bauer more and more until it became solely the Bauer Hour.
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The "holy shit" stares Jack gets whenever someone sees his scars is now the reason I buy the box set every year. Fuck it. Keep Jack AND Renee (I assume she is "Rack Bauer"... classy) and go hog wild. 24 when Jack and Renee try to have a romantic "get-away" (yeah, right). 24 while Jack and Renee are getting married. 24 when Renee is in the last stages of pregnancy (let's see Kim deal with THAT)...
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Happy Grandpa Jack equals Boring Grandpa Jack. Even when he is killing people, he doesn't seem to get mad. When the Russian said he wanted full immunity, he doesn't get mad and start cutting eyeballs out or shooting him in the legs. I miss post dead Teri, pissed off at the world, doesn't care what happens to him Jack! Grandpa Jack is boring.
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I was expecting the Russians to open up his shirt and be like the cops in First Blood when they see John Rambo's scars. WTF is this guy? Missed opportunity if you ask me. Maybe they didn't have time to do the makeup. Lazy!
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Needs to end up on the side of a Milk Carton like Al Bundys nephew lol.
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...was this episode. 2 minutes of furthering the story along. 58 minutes of crap.
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Missed her last night. She must of had the night off :(
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I would watch that.
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You will be missed next year.
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Season? By now when someone is about to put the screws to him they should just stop a second and look at him. Look at all of the scar tissue on his body and say "Look boss this guy ain't talking. I've got a few tricks to use on him but I don't think they're going to work on this motherfucker."
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It's pretty obvious that Jack has a healing factor. Basically 24 is going to turn into Old Man Logan. Can't wait to see Hulk eat Jack!
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Feb 16, 2010 1:46:19 PM CST
Besides the missing scars, didn't any baddie watch the Senate He
by thanos0145
with Jack last season? You would've thought his face would be well known after those hearings.
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Apparently Haysbert REALLY didn't want to kill off Palmer, and it took quite a bit of pushing to talk him into it. Yeah, it was a mistake. Also tasteless to broadcast him being shot in the throat on MLK day. And then a couple years later do EXACTLY the same thing with Curtis. Also on MLK day. Pretty fucking big coincidence. (We do remember that MLK was shot in the throat, right..?)
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Echoind MrBlackJackBauer, those that want to replace Kiefer don't get 24. The man IS 24. NO OTHER ACTOR CAN CARRY THIS SHOW. How the heck do you put another face as the lead? How? He has personified the show in a way no other actor, great or crap, can come in.
24's highest point was when the Palmers were alive. Like it or not, Sherri and David Palmer had great storylines, were excellent actors and characters. 24 has fallen victim of itself. By trying to shock people, they have killed off all the good characters.
FAIL!
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"Where are you going, pal? No more taaaable!"
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That is your Jack replacement.
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Starbuck's redneck boyfriend side plot is terrible. Day time soap opera terrible. They need to end that shit now.
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The only decision the writers made that hurt me as a loyal fan was killing Palmer. That one just stung and made you feel like what was the point of everything Jack did to save him all those years. Haysbert was right, but they told him they'd do it without him so he gave it the respect it deserved if they HAD to go that way. He became the legendary Snake Doctor and had an epic run on The Unit, but they should have always left the door open for him to return. Now my only hope is any talk of a '24' movie will be Operation Nightfall and we can have many of our fav characters back. As long as they can make Jack look younger, anyway.
But despite that decision, I think '24' has an outstanding batting average for delivering consistently. In fact, the only season I wasn't so big on was Day 5 when they shed all that blood. It just tainted the whole season, IMO. But to my surprise the show gets critic love and wins the Emmy for best drama...not a bad season by any means, but I was always left with a bad taste. I appreciated it more upon repeat viewings. Jack at the gas plant was epic, plus Henderson was fantastic. Very good season, but tough to digest at first.
And so many people shit on Day 6, but I never understood that. Sure, Wayne Palmer was never solid...but thank the power Texan Powers Boothe for bringing it as Noah to shepherd us from the shit. Plus, you've got epic drama with Heller telling Jack to stay the fuck away from his daughter, one of the top villains in Fayed (dude brought the mushroom cloud & gave Jack a great boss battle!), Cheng all sneaky and shit, Lennox giving Mike Novick a run for his money for White House gravitas, Jack teaming up with Logan, Agent Pierce tapping crazy First Lady ass, Graem and Pappa Bauer ripping another essential shred of Jack's remaining humanity away, Walid and sista Palmer with a juicy subplot, plus Curtis, Morris, Milo and other crazy shit...and it all starts off with a returning Jack from China who goes vampire to escape!
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Didn't love season 6, but still bought the DVDs and watched 'em again. Season 7 rocked. This season is starting slow...but the last two episodes have been fine. I'm still optimistic.
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ABC will be kicking themselves they didn't do a Sark spin-off after Alias... I know I would watch it. It could have been epic.
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I'm with you Hipshot, nothing has really turned me off yet this season. While I wouldn't mind less global threats for Jack to tackle, and maybe some missions without too much conspiracy, '24' is still a treat to watch each week. In fact, I like there has been a slow build this season, and it's nice to change things up.
Kobaal> F'n right, Sark was so good on Alias and I was so happy to see him on board this season. I knew he'd be the main antagonist for Jack because of his pedigree, and when his bro was killed that just sealed the deal. Originally I thought Jack would kill Pappa Chef and Josef/Sark would take over and get revenge, but I like this better! -
to describe my current feelings on 24. But they might be slightly exaggerated in an attempt at comedy, it is hitler ranting after all. `
I know these things are overdone but I am among those who have gotten hours of laughter out of it, I had to take a stab at making one eventually. -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3JO9ZtzCW0
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"they gave this motherfucka some kinda squint like he must be high as SHIT. matter of fact thats how im gonna view his character for the rest of the day, like he is just high as fuck on some kush and came into work anyway."
-Made me laugh hard for a good 20 seconds, fair play to you man. I can totally see that!
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