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FLASHFORWARD Gets New Showrunners, Fewer Episodes!!
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The final four episodes of “FlashForward” will be overseen by the new showrunning team of non-writing producer Jessika Borsiczky and writer-producers Lisa Zwerling (“ER”) and Tim Lea (“Law & Order: Criminal Intent”), who replace series co-creator David Goyer (“Threshold,” “Blade: The Series”).
Borsiczky, who is Goyer’s wife, produced Goyer’s big-screen effort “The Unborn” before she was hired as executive producer on “FastForward.”
ABC also again adjusted the series’ first-season episode order, which once stood at 25 but has gradually been cut back to 22. 10 episodes have already aired; episodes 17 and 18 are currently in production.
While the sci-fi drama launched impressively last autumn with a 4.0 rating in adults 18-49, that rating fell to a 3.0 two weeks later. Its last episode to air hit a series low of 2.1.
ABC resumes airing new “FlashForward” episodes March 18. Its Thursday timeslot is currently filled by the legal dramedy “The Deep End.”
Find all of the Variety’s story on the matter here.
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The show will finally be able to get its act together. Too bad it won't be until nearly the end of the season.
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Which is a shame because I quite enjoy it.
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I've been watching the show from the start, kept most of the various plotlines in my head, and even I will be a bit lost when the show comes back on. Good show but it's like it was designed to be watched on a full season DVD release.
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sorry to be a hater but its true. I've seen every episode and keep hoping it might improve, occasionally it does, but then it starts sucking again
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Herc does not make it clear. They had been reduced to 23 episodes, but have now been reduced down to 22.
The dropping of a single episode should have been more clear in Hercs news story. -
When will Journeyman "pop" onto this show? Same network - looking forward to another episode where he saves San Francisco or prevents a child molestation back in the 70's. Riveting stuff.
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... the fact so many people have forgotten about this show during this long break really does reveal how little impact it really made.
I'm curious to see how the wrap up this season, but I kinda don't really want another season. It'd be nothing but "wash n repeat" I imagine. -
Wait, so they fired Goyer and promoted his wife? Huh?
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I don't get studios tinkering with the creative department of a struggling show at the eleventh hour. If a ship is sinking and the rats are leaving they ain't looking back to see who is steering the damn thing. And the one's still left are only going to wonder why the new captain looks even more rudderless as they all drown. Better to see if the old crew can find safe shores, but commission a new boat back at the docklands for next year. In other words, hire your new show runners but task them with pre-production on season two instead of sticking their fingers into the leaks in the bough. Just tell them what desert island they'll be sailing from. Otherwise the chaos of a failed season spills over to the next and nobody has time to isolate the breach so it will happen again.
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What am I missing here? Why did anyone think Goyer could do this?
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If this goes away. Plus, we have Fringe coming back in April which while it isn't excellent, at least it has competent writers. Flash Forward needs to get its shit together, but I doubt it will.
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They wanted a show they could reset every season indefinitely, new season, new blackout. I tried watching it, it was just boring
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At times it's dreadful and monotonous at other times it's compelling and even poignant. It's just a bit tiresome to go back and forth like that.
In my opinion new writers is EXACTLY what this show needs. There's nothing wrong with the premise or the actors, it's the dialogue, material and occasionally the direction (Goyer's direction on key episodes didn't seem very good to me.)
I don't know if there's time to save this. I'd wager it's unlikely. But I'd love for it to turn up a notch and give us consistent quality. It doesn't have to be transcendent, just not dip so low on the lows.
I'll say this: Lost is so phenomenally knocking it out of the park for me this season that shows like this are going to pale horribly in comparison no matter how good they are. -
At times it's dreadful and monotonous at other times it's compelling and even poignant. It's just a bit tiresome to go back and forth like that.In my opinion, new writers is EXACTLY what this show needs. There's nothing wrong with the premise or the actors, it's the dialogue, material and occasionally the direction (Goyer's direction on key episodes didn't seem very good to me.) I don't know if there's time to save this. I'd wager it's unlikely. But I'd love for it to turn up a notch and give us consistent quality. It doesn't have to be transcendent, just not dip so low on the lows.I'll say this: Lost is so phenomenally knocking it out of the park for me this season that shows like this are going to pale horribly in comparison no matter how good they are.
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Would work extremely well if the episodes themselves just weren't so incredibly dull. The recovering alcoholic and his daughter storyline is just getting interesting. Took 10 episodes however.Flashfoward could really make a recovery if it got it's shit together but it's plodding along as though it were in its second season having just blown it's load on the first.This show could easily be a combination of 24, Lost and Damages: a real success story that takes the best aspects of each. As it is, it's incredibly slow and in dire need of attention. I still enjoy it but it's not as good as it could be.
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give me a break, this is a decent sci-fi show that had the balls to execute some original concepts and go in some directions that had never been shown on network TV. sure it wasn't perfect and had some messy moments, but if it doesn't beat the thrill of Vampire Diaries for you then just walk away.
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He quit to work on "film projects" (the rumor being, to write the third Batman with Jonathon Nolan). Knowing that, it makes more sense for his wife to be promoted. For once, this isn't a cut-and-dried "executives needlessly meddling with creatives" story.
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they almost lost me with that Bjork bullshit!
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With IDOL back and all the shows trying to avoid it, if this falls on and IDOL day I will continue to watch. However that being said I was an avid viewer since day one. I came into the show with happy thoughts. It had Penny & Charlie from lost, plus some movie actors that normally stay out of TV shows thus I formulated it could be a good show. However I was wrong. Flashfoward is stale and boring. Nothing ever happens in any given episode and then they base whole episodes upon someone's flash forward that we don't even care about. (the guy going to meet the Asian chick, almost fell asleep on that episode). The producers should have made this show amazing. And by amazing I mean no Six month flashes. The flash should have happened and occurred 2 weeks in the future max. Then at this point they should have realized that because of the one single flash foward, they will continue to flash foward every two weeks. Is that not more interesting then say following the whole six month boring ass plot thread that leads virtually no where?? In my mind now, the only way to redeem Flashfoward is to have them tie it into Lost's ALT Time line, now that would make it amazing and watchable.
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or one of the biggest ones, anyway, is that Lost used the hook of the plane crash to launch a compelling plot with characters trying to survive in a bizarre world. With FlashForward, the hook IS the whole plot. Once they solve the flash-foward, what's left?
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I used to be a fan of Joseph Fiennes back when he was doing period films. He seems terribly out of place in modern times, trying to be tough, or holding a gun and being a cop.
Some actors are just good at certain things and not at others.
To me he is cringe inducing.
The best parts of the show are the ones involving the drunk electrician with the girl in Iraq, the stuff with the pregnant girl, and the guy who appears in Penny's dreams with teh sick kid.
Cho is actually not bad in this either... but he's kinda wasted.
Oh and the guy who wanted to kill himself is interesting, although they dont touch on him very much.
Penny sucks, so does Charlie.
Hopefully we see them back on lost soon cuz they suck here.
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In it he is investigating the FlashForward, so the future he saw was one in which the FF had occurred. He saw his future self investigating the event that allowed him to see his future self investigating that event. The future he saw was one in which he'd seen the future. To me that proves that the future can't be changed because it's what happens because it is what has happened. Most of the stuff on his board are there because he saw them there in his vision; without seeing them in the future he never would have come across those clues in the present. Many of them he knows are pieces to the puzzle but only because he's seen the pieces before; he has no idea what they mean or how they fit. This contradicts what happened with the dude who jumped off the building to prove to the lady that the future can be changed. First off, I don't see how him killing himself is going to help her. Unless she knows for certain how she dies, she can't really do anything about it. Secondly, as Fiennes's FF shows, the future is one in which everyone had seen the future, why didn't he kill himself the "first" time. Why didn't his future self, who experienced the exact same thing he did leading up to his suicide, not kill himself to prove the same thing?Either you can change the future or you can't. Buddy, by having a flashforward, then killing himself, shows that you can change the future. Now it's no longer the future, it's simply a possible future. Fiennes knows guys are coming to kill him, so he sets a trap. Cho knows what day he dies, so he spends the day locked in his room hiding under his bed. And don't get me started on Gabrielle Union's character, mistaking a wake for a wedding. True, I've never gotten married but I have to think the emotions one would feel on that day would be rather different than the ones one feels at a funeral. Are we to believe she mistook sadness, despair, loss, etc, for "wedding jitters"?
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It showed some cool sequences, but the characters are annoying or boring. I don't even remember the last episode I watched.
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After Lost who wants to get involved with another show that has one storyline over many seasons. Its too much to ask audiences to commit to a story arc that could take years to resolve (with the possibility that it could be cancelled midpoint without being resolved.) i loved the story arc throughout alias and babylon 5 but those shows didnt demand a 5 year commitment from episode 1.
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They both have an interesting premise that shows lots of promise. They both end with compelling cliffhangers. But they are both dragged down by bad acting (esp. the lead FBI guy on FF - ugh), bad writing and ridiculous plot inconsistencies and contrivances.
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Obligatory Flash Forward quote, that I will now insert into any Flash Forward talkback.
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Feb 11, 2010 1:40:15 PM CST
Sadness, despair loss... that's what I picture marriage as!
by turketron_2
Shit, I'll bet there's a bunch of married guys who would tell you that is the most realistic thing that FF has done! Equate the feelings you get when getting married with sadness, despair, and loss!!! hahaha
Kno probably got his partner to put a bullet in his head just to avoid the shackles of matrimony! Mystery solved! -
Deep Ends.
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In the final episode the FBI's best attempts to prevent another Flashforward backfire and everyone in the world lapses into a coma that lasts long enough for everyone not on mechanical life support to die of starvation or dehydration. The entire final episode shows us the future vision the world sees during it'sfinal week, then in the last scenes the few people being kept alive my artificial means wake up and are forced to wait for their food supplies to run out or the power to go off.
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where alternate universe Spock doesn't have a goatee, or the one with the Lizard lady? And where did all those shows go, anyway? Are they that afraid to compete with Lost, Idol and the Olympics?
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The show was pitched using LOST's flashbacks/flashforwards as an example. It was most definitely designed as a LOST clone.
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what a piece of shit. I wanted to watch people with superpowes fighting and stuggling with their powers. Not 80% cheerleader wretling with teen issues and family.
How the fuck could they fuck up so bad? It would be almost difficult to fuck up that premise on purpose.
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Feb 11, 2010 10:36:41 PM CST
I hear Lindelof and Cuse are going to be free soon...
by billypilgrimisunstuck
...JK. That would suck.
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IF ABC GETS IN CONTACT WITH ME SOON. OTHERWISE, ALL HOPE IS LOST.
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As an actor, you have to work with what you are given. And Fiennes was given shit. I liked the premise of the show but the writers have really dropped the ball on this one. I suspect it must have been TV Exec input - often the cause of much TV disaster. And A G - each one of us have great ideas for TV and how to save shows, but the studios will never contact us, because simply - we're not connected. Its why we waste time on talkbacks rather than in studios writing scripts!
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sums it up for me, too. Can't stand the AA sponsor, nor the back and forth with the infidelity plot.
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That was there to keep the ladies happy...get that ol' female demographic up...unfortunately, they really didn't think that one through. I just don't understand the scientists confessing to the world that they did it, plot...where were they going with that one!? How did that really help the story?
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I cannot believe that after years of talkbackers asking for a Supernatural talkback we still do not have one. That sure is a Nice way to say fuck you assholes. Why get talkbackers discussing one of the best tv shows in the last decade when we could have some crappy Flash Foarward news? It does seem pretty ignorant of AICN to keep flipping its own readers off.
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I cannot believe that after years of talkbackers asking for a Supernatural talkback we still do not have one. That sure is a Nice way to say fuck you assholes. Why get talkbackers discussing one of the best tv shows in the last decade when we could have some crappy Flash Foarward news? It does seem pretty ignorant of AICN to keep flipping its own readers off.
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It would have added some suspense. Not everyone could figure out when their time was.
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Has anyone actually read the book this was based on? It was very different, but it's easy to see where a lot of descions came from (the scientists admitted fault, the debate as to whether the future can be altered); even if the writers now have no idea what to DO with those plots.
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Feb 13, 2010 12:34:18 PM CST
Rhetorically asking: Why was this book made into a show?
by prof. pop-cult
It seems like it would have been much more suitable as a one-shot movie.
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