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Quentin Tarantino and Kirk Douglas show POSSE (1975) at SBIFF and Quint was there!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with something a little different. When you go to a film festival the focus is almost always on what’s new. You look forward and not back. Typically. At most festivals there’s a retrospective element, like at Sundance they did a screening of Harold & Maude, one of the great American dark comedies, but those are usually not the priority.

At the Santa Barbara Film Festival I noticed they had a screening of an obscure 1975 movie called POSSE, which Kirk Douglas directed and starred in. The big draw wasn’t just a movie I hadn’t seen before and probably wouldn’t get a chance to see in the near future, but that Quentin Tarantino hand picked it to play at the festival and was going to be hosting a Q&A with the legendary Kirk Douglas after the movie.

Well, Q&K is what they called it, but you get the picture.

So, my last movie of the festival wasn’t a foreign film or an indie or documentary, but a forgotten film from the ‘70s starring one of the biggest and best screen icons in the history of the motion picture.

I might catch some shit for that from some people, but all I can say is that by its very name Film Festivals are a celebration of all cinema, not just new cinema.

This review might feel a little like my old A Movie A Day columns, which is only a good thing, I think. I’ll be starting up a new series of A Movie A Day very soon, so consider this a primer for the new run. Also make sure to scroll below the review to see the entire Q&K recorded by my handy-dandy FlipHD.



This is a mean little film. It’s not Wild Bunch mean… like bloody or intense… but it’s a highly political take on The American Western. POSSE takes your idea of heroes and villains and turns them on their heads as we see Kirk Douglas take on Bruce Dern.

If you’ve seen THE COWBOYS you know that at this point casting Bruce Dern in a Western playing a train robber would be, without a shadow of a doubt, the villain role. Especially with the heroic, square-jawed tin-star-wearing Kirk Douglas trying to bring him to justice.

But things aren’t exactly what they seem… That’s not say that Dern is a straight up hero and Douglas is a straight-up villain. Dern’s still a thief, but Douglas is something worse: a politician.

His Nightingale is running for the Senate seat and is a tried and true politician. He’s good at speeches, he can smile and nod and rub the right elbows… but on top of the politician’s shine he’s also a damn smart lawman, a brilliant tracker and strategist. And did I mention cruel?



The movie opens with Douglas’ posse paying off one of Dern’s men to tip them off on their location. As the outlaws sleep, their recent railroad loot (some $40,000) scattered around the old barn that is their hideout, Douglas’ men sneak in, throw torches and burn them all alive. Dern is outside when the posse rides up and hides amongst the horses, killing one of Douglas’ men before making his escape.

Right away you know that both men are willing and capable of murder, but at first we’re kind of taken in by Nightingale’s charm. A lot of that is the baggage that both actors bring to their roles. You expect that if Douglas is after Dern and willing to kill all of Dern’s men that Dern himself must be fucking Satan.

So we’re automatically torn. Our sympathies should lie with the hunted, not the hunter, but I found myself waiting for the shoe to drop, waiting for Dern to show his true evil colors.



You think that’s coming when Dern’s character, Jack Strawhorn, starts enacting his revenge by killing the Judas from his group in a nearby town’s saloon. But when he’s confronted with the town sheriff he tries to avoid confrontation… The only business he had in town is lying dead in the saloon, but Strawhorn’s reputation has everybody jumpy and the sheriff sees his chance to be a hero. He’s not good enough, naturally, and is shot dead in the street.

Strawhorn high-tails it, turning to his Mexican friend, Pepe (played by Alfonso Arau, who every single one of you knows even if the name doesn’t ring a bell. He is El Guapo in Three Amigos! “It’s a sweater!”), to organize a group of cut-throats as Douglas and his methodical, highly trained posse close in.

But Dern’s men, while mean, are dumbasses and are easily picked apart by Douglas’ posse and, in a surprise turn, Douglas actually captures Dern at this point, still in the first two reels of the movie.

The movie has a 3:10 To Yuma element to it as Douglas and Dern verbally spar as Douglas revels in the political advantage he has now that he’s captured the big, bad Jack Strawhorn. It becomes more and more evident that Douglas has been bought by the Railroad and is so blinded by his ambition to become a powerful politician that all sense of morality has flown out the window.

As immoral as Dern’s character is there’s a “What you see is what you get” honesty to him. He’s a bastard, but hey… at least he’s honest about it whereas Douglas is bastard who is trying to come across as a saint.

Over the film’s runtime the balance of power shifts between Dern and Douglas, sometimes verbally, sometimes physically, and we witness the political destruction of Douglas’ carefully crafted image.



Both lead actors are in fine form as are the supporting cast. There are a lot of recognizable faces in here, like the great Bo Hopkins (of White Lightning, American Graffiti and The Wild Bunch fame) and Luke Askew playing members of Douglas’ posse, Dick O’Neill (The Taking of Pelham One Two Three, Wolfen and The Mosquito Coast) as Douglas’ personal photographer who follows him around like a puppy dog… and then there’s James Stacy.

James Stacy knew some popularity in the ‘60s for doing beach movies and having a regular role on Ozzie & Harriet, but was in a motorcycle accident in the early ‘70s that took an arm and a leg.

In Posse he plays a newspaper man and ex-soldier. He’s the only townsperson not taken in by Douglas’ charm. In what could have been either a throw-away sequence or a boringly overdone one, Stacy has a sit down with Douglas who tries to charm him over to his side. “Why don’t you like me?” Douglas asks. Stacy pauses and says he’s wary of ambitious men. Douglas says that ambition is a good thing, then Stacy mentions his career as a military man and a commander he had. Brilliant man, but too ambitious, reached too far. You get the idea that in reaching too far this commander is responsible for Stacy’s character’s handicap, but it’s not dwelled upon or even made a gigantic moment.

Really smart bit of storytelling and a great performance by Stacy.



The script was written by William Roberts (The Magnificent Seven) and Christopher Knopf (Emperor of the North Pole). I didn’t realize this until writing up this review, but I was absolutely reminded of Emperor of the North Pole while watching the movie. I guess it’s just the inclusion of period badasses (on trains no less) butting heads. In Emperor it’s Ernest Borgnine and Lee Marvin, in this movie it’s Kirk Douglas and Bruce Dern.

It’s a tight, impressive and whip smart political western. And cynical, too. This is post-Watergate and the cynicism is palpable, the distrust in politicians heavy. So it’s a radically different kind of western than you’re used to and boy what a fucking great ending.



After the movie Tarantino and Douglas came up onto the stage and the Q&K began. Instead of recapping it I decided to try a video experiment. Below is the entire Q&A caught by my FlipHD. I apologize for any shaky-cam going on, but I think it turned out pretty good. For any film lover this is going to be a must watch…

Keep in mind Douglas suffered a stroke years back, so it’s a little difficult for him to talk, but you can tell the fire is still there. It’s especially poignant near the end when Douglas talks about how lonely it is being 93 years old, how all of his colleagues are dead and he’s left with little but beautiful memories.

Enjoy:










Hope you liked that. Be back soon with some Sundance catch-up and final pieces on Santa Barbara!

-Quint
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goddammit
by townshend
Feb 8th, 2010
05:18:51 AM
I love this.
by djw1138
Feb 8th, 2010
05:21:32 AM
Sounds Like Another One I Gotta Check Out...
by The_Dreaded_Rear_Admiral
Feb 8th, 2010
05:23:13 AM
That falling horse poster is fantastic
by Lone Fox
Feb 8th, 2010
05:49:14 AM
KIRK DOUGLAS=ICON
by Frye777
Feb 8th, 2010
05:54:07 AM
I saw this in '75...
by DellsDontBounce
Feb 8th, 2010
06:05:32 AM
Quint
by kwisatzhaderach
Feb 8th, 2010
06:34:34 AM
Thaaaaannnnnkk yooouuuuuuu!
by AdzonVonMelk
Feb 8th, 2010
06:39:49 AM
oh and...
by AdzonVonMelk
Feb 8th, 2010
06:42:21 AM
little but beautiful memories???
by white_vader
Feb 8th, 2010
07:54:50 AM
Kirk Douglas - a giant of a man.
by Human_Bean_Juice_
Feb 8th, 2010
08:06:44 AM
Very cool Quint...and love that mid-air horse and rider...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 8th, 2010
08:14:19 AM
Thanks Quint!
by Toilet_Terror
Feb 8th, 2010
08:14:33 AM
WOW, SOMETHING ACTUALLY COOL ON THIS SITE, IMPRESSIVE...
by TehCreepyThinMan
Feb 8th, 2010
08:49:55 AM
Kirk Douglas is Awesome!
by Gungan Slayer
Feb 8th, 2010
09:06:08 AM
Wow...That was fuckin great. I love this film
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYan ks
Feb 8th, 2010
09:43:31 AM
I hate to be the asshole here
by Bruce of all Trades
Feb 8th, 2010
10:45:09 AM
Awesome. Thanks!
by bsjett
Feb 8th, 2010
11:00:38 AM
Douglas: Legend; Tarantino: Jackass
by Kal Reeve
Feb 8th, 2010
11:04:10 AM
Hmm
by SnakesOnABicycle
Feb 8th, 2010
11:04:57 AM
Kirk Douglass and Dick Clark in a new buddy movie...
by Vulcan_CSC_Rep
Feb 8th, 2010
11:07:28 AM
Tarantino looks fat in those pictures
by D.Vader
Feb 8th, 2010
11:21:50 AM
He doesn't look fat
by Bruce of all Trades
Feb 8th, 2010
12:15:59 PM
Legend. Not many actors like him these days.
by Mr Nicholas
Feb 8th, 2010
12:23:04 PM
He stores most of his genius in that gut.
by future help
Feb 8th, 2010
12:41:32 PM
Trouble playing these
by billybigbollocks
Feb 8th, 2010
12:50:12 PM
Trouble playing these
by billybigbollocks
Feb 8th, 2010
12:50:25 PM
This is really cool.
by SebastianHaff
Feb 8th, 2010
12:55:42 PM
if mr douglas is lonely
by brabon300
Feb 8th, 2010
12:56:52 PM
Is that the same thing that happened to Orson Welles?
by D.Vader
Feb 8th, 2010
01:04:04 PM
thanks quint
by Waka_Flocka_Flame
Feb 8th, 2010
01:29:51 PM
That was great.
by OrsonSwells
Feb 8th, 2010
03:08:30 PM
This movie is available on streaming Netflix 2/15/10!
by SoylentMean
Feb 8th, 2010
03:43:31 PM
I wonder if that poster was inspiration for a scene in...
by SoylentMean
Feb 8th, 2010
03:45:33 PM
Kirk Douglas was never tall
by PhilipMarlowe
Feb 8th, 2010
03:48:03 PM
Bruce Dern fathered Laura Dern. Thanks Bruce!
by SoylentMean
Feb 8th, 2010
03:52:55 PM
Great film
by Lornsorrow
Feb 8th, 2010
04:19:38 PM
It sorta seems right that QT would pork out eventually
by white_vader
Feb 8th, 2010
04:43:35 PM
Bruce Dern was hilarious in 'The Burbs'
by Windowlicker74
Feb 8th, 2010
06:10:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =WPqCLZpajLo&feature=related
by Windowlicker74
Feb 8th, 2010
06:12:00 PM
fuck this, just youtube: 'the klopeks' and laugh
by Windowlicker74
Feb 8th, 2010
06:13:14 PM
great job AICN
by revengofthega
Feb 8th, 2010
08:40:48 PM
That was really sweet
by seppukudkurosawa
Feb 8th, 2010
10:06:23 PM
Hey Sepp
by white_vader
Feb 9th, 2010
12:36:17 AM
Hey. WV
by seppukudkurosawa
Feb 9th, 2010
12:51:39 AM
Ha ha, love the Simpsons
by white_vader
Feb 9th, 2010
02:40:57 AM
Brilliant Q&K!
by stephendes
Feb 9th, 2010
03:15:27 AM
i once liked tarantino...were are those days?!
by DavidCarradinesAutoEroticRobot
Feb 9th, 2010
03:19:53 AM
& the biggest NO GOs were...
by DavidCarradinesAutoEroticRobot
Feb 9th, 2010
03:21:38 AM
the second biggest mistake
by DavidCarradinesAutoEroticRobot
Feb 9th, 2010
03:23:40 AM
Douglas and Tarantino...
by Jdrake
Feb 9th, 2010
03:26:03 AM
Douglas=LEGEND
by DavidCarradinesAutoEroticRobot
Feb 9th, 2010
03:42:56 AM
Kirk Douglas slo-mo in The Fury
by reflecto
Feb 9th, 2010
06:10:46 AM
DavidCarradines
by white_vader
Feb 9th, 2010
06:12:13 AM
Kirk Douglas is a solid gold legend.
by Brundlefly
Feb 9th, 2010
08:34:36 AM
stephendes, I second that...
by Brundlefly
Feb 9th, 2010
08:44:46 AM
"I might catch some shit for that..."
by Harry Weinstein
Feb 9th, 2010
09:28:27 AM
Holy Cow! We're getting AMAD again?
by bryan vancampen
Feb 9th, 2010
11:51:18 AM
Kirk, in his arrogant younger days
by white_vader
Feb 9th, 2010
04:32:26 PM
Thanks, Quint.
by BurnedNotice_Dude
Feb 9th, 2010
08:05:46 PM
my tarintino story
by mcavity
Feb 10th, 2010
01:18:56 AM
This is really quite excellent
by detectivesoap
Feb 10th, 2010
09:36:10 AM
Oh and I haven't seen Posse
by detectivesoap
Feb 10th, 2010
09:37:27 AM
mcavity
by detectivesoap
Feb 10th, 2010
09:38:38 AM
AUDIENCE THRILL RIDE IN A CAR
by KHjLL
Feb 10th, 2010
03:56:23 PM
WESTERNS
by KHjLL
Feb 10th, 2010
03:57:42 PM
THE GREAT SILENCE
by KHjLL
Feb 10th, 2010
03:58:50 PM
The Bad and the Beautiful
by wilsonfisk89
Feb 10th, 2010
06:54:37 PM
Recently saw the old Dick Cavett interview with Kirk
by Chuck_Chuckwalla
Feb 10th, 2010
07:30:03 PM
Er Chuck, it's not just you. It's everyone.
by white_vader
Feb 11th, 2010
02:19:03 AM
Or more to the point,
by white_vader
Feb 11th, 2010
02:25:56 AM
I've Been Getting Ripped off for the LAST 3 years so I must be d
by KHjLL
Feb 11th, 2010
10:12:31 AM
JOHN RAMBO
by KHjLL
Feb 11th, 2010
10:14:08 AM
POSSE
by KHjLL
Feb 11th, 2010
10:19:14 AM
KIRK DOUGLAS FAVORITES
by KHjLL
Feb 11th, 2010
10:28:08 AM
ONCE UPON A TIME IN NAZI OCCUPIED FRANCE
by KHjLL
Feb 11th, 2010
10:30:56 AM
KIRK DOUGLAS
by KHjLL
Feb 11th, 2010
10:31:46 AM
KIRK DOUGLAS should play JOHN RAMBO'S father
by KHjLL
Feb 11th, 2010
11:00:50 AM
Or make him BILLS dad..
by KHjLL
Feb 11th, 2010
11:02:23 AM
REMAKE THE GREAT SILENCE into JOHN RAMBO
by KHjLL
Feb 11th, 2010
11:35:20 AM
RAMBO trilogy
by KHjLL
Feb 11th, 2010
11:36:39 AM
KILL RAMBO in the first or have a triology should them all at on
by KHjLL
Feb 11th, 2010
11:37:53 AM
THE FURY and DRESSED to KiLL
by KHjLL
Feb 11th, 2010
11:40:49 AM
Great interview
by AshokForgiven
Feb 11th, 2010
07:02:55 PM
KHyLL
by white_vader
Feb 11th, 2010
07:05:59 PM
Whit Vader
by KHjLL
Feb 13th, 2010
03:27:27 AM
Just got POSSE in the mail
by KHjLL
Feb 13th, 2010
03:34:49 AM
SAM PECKINPAH
by KHjLL
Feb 13th, 2010
03:42:18 AM
? about JOHN CARPENTER and KIRK DOUGLAS
by KHjLL
Feb 13th, 2010
03:49:10 AM
POSSE
by KHjLL
Feb 14th, 2010
10:51:27 PM
KIRK DOUGLAS interview
by KHjLL
Feb 14th, 2010
10:55:26 PM
WHbGBzf
by TmvEqK
Feb 15th, 2010
01:46:30 AM
STBOHX
by TmvEqK
Feb 15th, 2010
01:47:08 AM
Watching it now on Netflix bitstreaming...
by johnwwwatson
Feb 18th, 2010
04:13:38 AM

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