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A Really Hot Babe Joins UNIVERSAL'S new THE THING thing...

Hey folks, Harry here - and over at The Hollywood Reporter's HeatVisionBlog.Com they're reporting that Mary Elizabeth Winstead and Joel Edgerton are joining this new film to come from the great John W Campbell Jr's WHO GOES THERE? The first was the seminal THE THING FROM ANOTHER WORLD brought to us by Howard Hawks. Which inspired John Carpenter to read the original source - and then actually really adapt it into what I consider easily one of the greatest works of science fiction & horror. This new version begins with a script by some guy new to us Genre fans, named Ronald D Moore and Eric Heisserer. It will be directed by Matthijs Van Heijningen Jr. Who? Well we're kinda having to hold our breath on this. I don't know his work, but I can't help but root for him. The Gorgeous Winstead will be playing a Ph.D. candidate that is brought in once the Norwegian team discovers the Alien ship. She apparently teams up with Joel Edgerton once the shit hits the fan. I can't help but be nervous about this. I love THE THING. When I show off my screening set up, I tend to put THE THING on Blu Ray on, because it is such a beautiful film and disc. The film is going to be shooting up in Toronto on March 15th. I love the idea of a prequel set at the Norwegian research facility. BUT - I kinda loathe the idea of it having ANY U.S. characters. But, let's see how they're used. And... um... Rob Bottin's involved, right? Ahem, right? AHEM! RIGHT?

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  • Feb. 7, 2010, 10:49 p.m. CST

    WOW !

    by imagegod

    this is going to be mind numbingly stupid.

  • Feb. 7, 2010, 10:49 p.m. CST

    I'd put my Thing in her.

    by maximumbob

    her casting pretty much guarantees this is going to be shit, though.

  • Feb. 7, 2010, 10:51 p.m. CST

    maybe all the norwegians..

    by imagegod

    will go family style on her before the 'horror' happens. good to see more prequels though, thank LORD !

  • Feb. 7, 2010, 10:51 p.m. CST

    changed my mind.

    by Mummy_Under_Your_Bed

    I'll watch anything with MEW.

  • Feb. 7, 2010, 10:53 p.m. CST

    You use The Thing blu-ray to show off?

    by GrandMuffTarkin

    Seriously? Not something like Star Trek or Planet Earth? How does it show off your system Harry?

  • Feb. 7, 2010, 10:54 p.m. CST

    You show off an HD setup by playing a non HD movie?

    by Crooooooow

    I love The Thing but what a truly stupid thing to do.

  • Feb. 7, 2010, 10:54 p.m. CST

    "I'd put my Thing in her. by maximumbob"

    by revengofthega

    That some funny shit!

  • Feb. 7, 2010, 10:54 p.m. CST

    i agree about Rob Bottins work..

    by nolan bautista

    it was the golden age of practical spfx/make-up..and his work shone!!

  • Feb. 7, 2010, 10:54 p.m. CST


    by lostokie

    I've read the script. ??? It will all be in the execution of this one. Don't know if I agree with the casting of Joel Edgerton. Once again, Britain being cast in an alpha male role. Where are our American Alpha males? This character as written on the page seems like the writers totally aped Kurt Russell. Maybe that is just the way I read it. If that is the case, then this is bad casting from what I've seen from Joel. Oh well... At least they didn't go with Channing Tatum!

  • Feb. 7, 2010, 10:59 p.m. CST


    by lostokie

    You have to imagine. The way that the writers wrote this, in the version I read, is exactly like the Kurt Russell (MacReady) character from Carpenter's Thing. He is a pilot, he walks to the beat of his own drum and he drinks. Would you cast Joel Edgerton?

  • Feb. 7, 2010, 10:59 p.m. CST

    Another pointless...

    by vettebro

    Remake, Prequel, Reboot...

  • Feb. 7, 2010, 11 p.m. CST

    And American

    by lostokie

    And he was written as an American. They could change that with one sentence of Action Dialogue though.

  • Feb. 7, 2010, 11:08 p.m. CST


    by MacReady452

    I don't know what to say here. At least they are making this a stand alone movie. Moore being involved is reassuring. Just leave R.J. out of it ok. OKAY?!

  • Feb. 7, 2010, 11:10 p.m. CST


    by Antz

    Maybe, just maybe one day they'll make a movie set in Antarctica that has an accurate representation of the place for a change. The '82 Thing came pretty damned close though (apart from the guns, flame throwers, and shape-shifting aliens)

  • Feb. 7, 2010, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Already stinks of hollywood tampering

    by Colt19801980

    Hot female PhD??? LOL, I think that's a contradiction in terms. Stinks of hollywood blockbuster chasing studio execs...I have no interest in seeing this because the original team isn't involved and they're the ones who made the 1982 version a classic.

  • Feb. 7, 2010, 11:17 p.m. CST

    I hope this leads hapless teens to JC's The Thing

    by MacReady452

    Much like they repackaged Near Dark to look like Twilight. Kids will then watch these horror classics and have nightmares for the rest of their lives.<p>"Why is Severen cutting throats open with a spur and not shimmering in the sunlight? boohoohoo."

  • Feb. 7, 2010, 11:26 p.m. CST

    What is the point?

    by johnwalanp

    Can I just ask a question? We all know what ultimately happened to the research team in the '82 movie - they died. Well, I don't need to watch this now do I? Why waste our time with a damn prequel when we know what ultimately happens? We can't root for anyone when we know its going to be a disappointment. They can't evolve the story or plot of the creature, let any of the characters survive (except a 'wolf'). If they are going to rape a work of Sci-Fi genius, why not at least try something new and continue the story as a sequel? Picking up where the last movie ended? At least then we might be in for a surprise or two, and not just a lazily-made, low-budget Direct-to-DVD gorefest, which is what I fear it will ultimately be. I don't get Hollywood sometimes.

  • Feb. 7, 2010, 11:35 p.m. CST

    If they were smart...

    by Colt19801980

    they'd simply make a sequel, with a new team, new situation, not a prequel where we already know the outcome...the reason they dont care is because they're not making this for fans of the original, they're making it for people who were born after 1982 and dont give a shit about any movie before that...aka people who ate up Transformers 2.

  • Feb. 7, 2010, 11:38 p.m. CST

    the fuckwads,

    by frank cotton

    read SUITS, are again doing what they do best. let the downhill slide commence...

  • Feb. 7, 2010, 11:48 p.m. CST

    Why not make a sequel where The Thing gets loose in the city?

    by sonnyfern

    Why NOT?

  • Feb. 7, 2010, 11:55 p.m. CST

    Did anyone read the Thing comics?

    by The Dum Guy

    I think it was Dark Horse who did a few that was a sequel to the movie, all I remember from the one I read was the Thing got aboard a ship that was leaving to go north (as a rat I think).

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 12:12 a.m. CST

    Makes perfect sense!

    by Bass Ackwards

    When a Norwegian science team discovers an unidentified object in the antarctic, OF COURSE they'd want an American post-grad student to come assist.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 12:15 a.m. CST


    by TehCreepyThinMan

    Fucking morons.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 12:17 a.m. CST

    This Plain Jane Lookin' Bitch Ain't Hot.

    by glodene

    Y'all no pussy gettin' geeks are trippin'. Megan Fox is HOT! Meagan Good is HOT! Jessica Alba is HOT! This hoe wouldn't get a second glance at the mall.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 12:23 a.m. CST


    by wintocha67

    I don't think so.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 12:25 a.m. CST

    This is a prequel to the John Carpenter version,correct?

    by Jobacca

    I have zerolove for that movie-sorry geeks. I even love John Carpenter and Kurt Russel,but I hate their version of THE THING. Probably because I loved the original so much. The Howard Hawks/James Arness version kicks SO MUCH ASS....even all the blood and gore and Wilford Brimley of the Carpenter version couldnt touch it.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 12:25 a.m. CST

    If I remember correctly...

    by MaxDembo1

    the original Norwegian research team was comprised solely of men. Also, they were fucking Norwegian!!!! There was not an American in the bunch. Fuck this fucking bullshit prequel!!!!

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 12:29 a.m. CST

    The Shark Has Now Jumped

    by Autodidact

    I don't even want to look at the ages of these people.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 12:30 a.m. CST

    To be Fair

    by Autodidact

    I have met some pretty hot PHDs/PHD candidates over the years.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 12:36 a.m. CST


    by alice133


  • Feb. 8, 2010, 12:36 a.m. CST

    Sweds dont speak english

    by TheJudger

    Cheating bitch added an american chick to the plot. Greeeeeeeeaaaaatttt..... Yeah tell me this wont suck as bad as the remake of THE FOG. Say it with conviction now. Thats what I thought. The only films Sweds belong in is a porns.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 12:37 a.m. CST

    Until that chick goes topless, I do not want to know of her

    by YackBacker

    Sorry, I'm shallow that way.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 12:39 a.m. CST

    They should make it a porno.

    by TheJudger

    No seriously a porno prequel. To a film none of them them can truly understand or respect.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 12:57 a.m. CST

    Re: Crooooooow

    by ufoclub1977

    What do you mean non-HD movie? The Thing was shot on 35mm film... which is higher resolution than 1080p HD if you have fine grain low speed film. Just like any movie from the 20's till now.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 12:58 a.m. CST

    Comics and 3D bandwagon

    by Salamander

    Does seem kinda weird doing a prequel where we know the basic outcome but be interesting to see how much of it will be CG to models.... oh and the comic 'sequels' (i think there was 2 or 3) were pretty good and carried on with the MacReady and Childs story line. I would like to see a sequel but long before we here the word 3D stamped on this as that seems to be the current trend ! lol

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 1:05 a.m. CST

    Oh no, see it'll be all funny

    by Colt19801980

    cause she'll be american and the swedes will have a problem understanding her and vice versa, ripe for hilarity to ensue!

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 1:10 a.m. CST

    I hate to be an early hater, but this sounds monumentally stupid

    by Stegman84

    ...from every snippet revealed so far. I mean what would be so wrong with putting together a great ensemble cast that could pass as 'hollywood norwegians', people who could actually act and be convincing in the roles, and play the whole thing straight and serious. But instead it seems that this is going to be a typical "sexed up" version, with a few pretty, young cast members, who will be american no less (at a soverign territory norwegian camp!), and it'll likely be filled with cgi and a pg-13 rating to boot. sigh...<p>I mean I know it's not very new hollywood to do so, but what would be so wrong with putting together a cast that consisted of actors of appropriate age and who could pass as 'hollywood norwegian', guys like Rutger Hauer, Stellan Skarsgard, Alexander Skarsgard, Jurgen Prochnow, Charlie Hunnam, Dolph Lundgren, Vladimir Kulich, Max von Sydow, Ron Perlman and Peter Stormare, have them actually speak norwegian for the first couple of minutes, and then do a 'Hunt for Red October' zoom and have them change to english (so the entire film isn't subtitled, but also letting the audience know that technically, they are still supposed to be speaking in Norwegian), and film the whole thing old school, with a focus on practical effects work, with an unflinching r rating. That way, the prequel might actually be something worthwhile, but alas, smells more likely to be yet another hollywood cash in instead.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 1:10 a.m. CST


    by BenBraddock

    This is increasingly showing all the signs of being an unworthy piece of demographic-pandering shit. Yeah, we really need a "babe" in the new Thing film, the first one really lacked that. Clueless money-grabbing Hollywood numbnut fucks, leave The Thing alone.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 1:16 a.m. CST

    was tara reid too busy?

    by alice133

    i bet they wanted to give the alien a fighting chance.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 1:22 a.m. CST

    Did anyone play the video game?

    by MacReady452

    I'll bet the game is a better installment than this. If it wasn't for Moore I'ld be driving to Canada right now to sabotage this shoot. I don't live THAT far away.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 1:28 a.m. CST

    It's amazing how dumb Hollywood actually is...

    by johnwalanp

    EVERYONE on here is pretty much singing from the same Hymn sheet. We all know how this should've been done, and I bet if we were given the cash and the directorial reigns, could make one bitching sequel if the MUST have one. Why, oh why, oh why does this shit get given the green-light? Do they not listen to, or take any notice of their target market? Or does their superior intellect think they should re-hash, re-imagine, prequel or sequel every cherished gem of cinematic history, and give it the cheaper, 90210-version?! God it gets me mad sometimes. You just know they will do a double-pack DVD and sell this with the Carpenter movie. What a travesty that will be.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 1:33 a.m. CST

    "a non HD movie?"

    by Toonol

    I think you're a bit confused about what HD means. The Thing was filmed on... FILM, which really doesn't have a set resolution. It's a semi-analog medium, but it has an effective resolution greater than HD. It was then encoded into a particular resolution for DVD... then again, at a higher resolution, for Blu-Ray.<p> It's very possible to pull good HD transfers off film from many decades ago. Did you think HD shows need to be filmed on HD video? Harry is right on this one.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 1:37 a.m. CST

    The video game was awesome!

    by TomHooligan

    Loved that game, really punished you all the way through.Loved that game, really punished you all the way through. As for this new version, if Ronald D Moore is involved, I'm in. I would have prefered them to make a TV show out of it rather than a movie though. I mean, how can they beat the John Carpenter version really?

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 1:44 a.m. CST

    Good Grief

    by MattDomville

    I thought the headline was sexist enough, but the first few comments took it to a whole other level of chauvinism. I thought the film had a perfect ending, so I'm not really looking forward to a sequel. I think an "At the Mountains of Madness" project would be more interesting. Any progress on that?

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 1:53 a.m. CST


    by TehCreepyThinMan

    Set it in the present and on a LARGE, modern day scientific research facility.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 1:53 a.m. CST

    You, damn_dirty_ape....

    by The Dum Guy

    I guess I need to see a picture of her.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:07 a.m. CST

    Yawn, another gorgeous PhD candidate heroine

    by Wookie_Weed

    The best thing about The Thing and Alien is that the characters are just normal people caught up in extraordinary situations. They're not magazine-cover attractive, and they're not super-brilliant PhD candidates. Winstead is so fucking wrong for the Thing prequel, and her character is cliche to the point of being as interesting as a wet paper bag. Edgerton however has grown up and proven he's worth(ington) in Sundance's best film, Animal Kingdom.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:07 a.m. CST

    stop hollywood...

    by thebastard

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:08 a.m. CST


    by thebastard

    Your ruining some of my favorite movies because of your lack of fucking creativity. Fuck off, you assholes.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:11 a.m. CST


    by blackwood


  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:12 a.m. CST

    NO! I was thinking Mary Elizabeth Ellis

    by BadMrWonka

    the waitress from It's Always Sunny in SHE is awesome.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:14 a.m. CST

    Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio!

    by Wookie_Weed

    She can save Kurt Russell with a bottle of Ernest Shackleton's 100-year-old scotch whisky, found in Antarctica recently.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:14 a.m. CST

    Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio!

    by Wookie_Weed

    She can save Kurt Russell with a bottle of Ernest Shackleton's 100-year-old scotch whisky, found in Antarctica recently.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:19 a.m. CST

    I literally just finished watching the Hawks version for the fir

    by Toilet_Terror

    ACES, FUCKING ACES! The Carpenter film does not compete. This prequel doesn't have a chance in hell.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:21 a.m. CST

    -st time

    by Toilet_Terror

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:26 a.m. CST

    Winstead! PHD Candidiate!

    by Fortunesfool


  • Feb. 8, 2010, 3:01 a.m. CST

    What's the fucking point... other than money?

    by OnO

    We know how it ends. Other than a snuff film what is the point of this one. Maybe a tentacle rape scene? The best part is we all meet the doomed pilot and his equally doomed partner and we'll most likely get forced to root for them knowing full well that one's getting a new blow hole and the other is taco sauce. Whooh! We are off to great start. Spoiler alert: The Thing escapes end of movie.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 3:08 a.m. CST

    Make everyone all post-WWII confident and no-bullshit

    by Margot Tenenbaum the H. Hawks version. There's a space alien killing our guys? Let's figure out a way kIll it. Fuck you we're not communicating with it. ZAAAPPP. Okay, let's have lunch. Paranoia is for potheads.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 3:14 a.m. CST

    Uncle Owen and the Winstead hottie!

    by Tall_Boy66

    Just call the movie that. And I'm all for revisiting the series, and I'm glad they're trying to keep it in the same continuity. To we REALLY need another reboot remake?

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 3:14 a.m. CST


    by white_vader

    Edgerton is Australian. Can't remember him ever playing a Brit. As for the Alpha male thing, maybe Worthington was busy. THINGS. WILL. HAPPEN!

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 3:25 a.m. CST

    Harry you big red dolt, the Blu-ray looks WORSE

    by white_vader

    than the HD-DVD we know you got for free. I'm a Bd guy, but that was one of those stupid instances where they used the same master, but because there was no restoration budget, it has scratches and stuff. When doing the Blu-ray version, they used that master, but did the dreaded automatic DNR once-over. You'll see blotchy smears instead of those scratches, and a general loss of detail compared to the HD-DVD version. When all they had to do was drop it directly onto the Blu-ray disc, same VC-1 encode intact. They did it for 300 with no problem. Additionally, they deleted some of the extras (when there's MORE space on Bd!). The only good thing was that the sound was a better quality non-lossy format. <p> But yeah, they fucked it for no good reason, taking the edge off Dean Cundey's great photography. If you wanna really show how good your system can look, pop The Host in. That thing looks fucking gorgeous.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 3:26 a.m. CST

    Margot, that's the best thing about the original

    by Toilet_Terror

    I can see how they were trying to copy the formula later with THEM, but there's no spring in anybody's step in that film. The characters don't lightheartedly spout cheerfully innuendo-laden dialog while waiting for the monsters to attack.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 3:28 a.m. CST

    I'll also take that version of the Thing

    by Toilet_Terror

    over Rob Bottin's latex diarrhea.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 3:40 a.m. CST

    toilet, you're an old guy...

    by GavinVanDraven

    arent you? jesus, the carpenter version is one of the top 5 scariest movies ever made. the "original" features a carrot monster. enough said.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 3:44 a.m. CST

    Mary Elizabeth Winstead's snatch

    by alan_poon

    is the warmest place to hide.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 4:06 a.m. CST

    The problem with prequels

    by Gman22

    is that you're talking about a huge expanse of time in terms of film making. All the techniques in film making over that time and now they're going to do a Thing prequel with likely the best visual effects hollywood has to offer. So it makes the original thing look out of place as a follow on with its stop-motion effects. Hell even Lucas had to take a paintbrush back to scenes from the original Star Wars films once he'd made his prequels. I really do think a sequel would be the way to go because it would also open doors for a possible franchise.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 4:22 a.m. CST


    by nightmute

    Those idiots are putting Americans in it? And a woman? It might be viable to have a female Norwegian in it, but this is showing a serious lack of balls already, not to mention plot inconsistencies. If they have this Phd type coming in, that means the Norwegians contacted the outside world, and if the Americans know about it, wouldn't the guys from the first movie have been informed? Being the main US presence in that area, the original characters---scientists themselves, remember--would absolutely have been brought in. The ONLY way this prequel would work is if the plot simply centered on the Norge base scientists finding the ship, and being unable to communicate with anyone outside due to a storm. Then all the crazy shit happens. It's dead easy, right? But noooo, the makers with their narrow vision feel that audiences won't buy into the story without America actors. Have they learned nothing from District 9? A big hit, thick South African accents and NO US actors. Christ, people would go to The Thing Begins for the scares and the effects and there affection for the original. There doesn't need to be an American angle. This film will be shit. Shittt I tell you!

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 4:23 a.m. CST

    Found it funny that Bottin caused a fire on the set

    by Monkey_King

    of the original film because of the chemicals involved during the head-ripping/spider-head Thing scene.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 4:24 a.m. CST

    What's the point of this article...

    by NelsonO

    ...if there's no picture for me to jack off to?

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 4:28 a.m. CST

    The Thing prequel...

    by buggerbugger

    ...will eventually need a prequel, because nobody demands it.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 4:31 a.m. CST

    The AICN title should read

    by Wookie_Weed

    ... "a really hot screenplay joins Universal's new The Thing thing". Seriously, a "really hot babe" does not make a good fucking movie -- Transformers 2 anyone?! Carpenter's The Thing was great because it just had normal everyday guys who got caught up in something extremely fucked up. No magazine-cover bikini babe. NORMAL PEOPLE. Like Alien. NORMAL PEOPLE. MEW will look like an actress playing make-believe, her character is batshit boring, and it's going to be a CGI crapfest even with Ron Moore writing. They may as well get Paul W Anderson to fucking direct it.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 4:34 a.m. CST

    "Those idiots are putting Americans in it?"

    by buggerbugger

    From a storytelling POV, I'd imagine it's primarily a device to get all the Norwegians speaking English for the majority of the film.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 5 a.m. CST

    Rob Bottin absence =

    by RoarsLoudly


  • Feb. 8, 2010, 5:12 a.m. CST


    by ominus

    I see the commercialization of a cult movie ,in order to appeal to a wider audience,has already begun. <p>Hot babe in the remake? check <p>now we wait for the hot protagonist.maybe the guy who plays in New Moon? <p>fuckers,they have raped everything that is great.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 5:16 a.m. CST

    I have a great idea for The Fly remake

    by Wordage

    I believe they are remaking The would be interesting if two people were to go through the transporter...first Brundle...and then someone else whom he convinces to try it a few days later. They both start to go through transformations, and they assume they are both turning into Flies...but it turns out that the second guy is actually turning into a spider because one got into the transporter with him, and you don't realize this until near the end when legs sprout from his back, and he starts trying to eat BrundleFly in his apartment...leading to an epic battle between The Fly and The Spider. <p> Make that movie, Cronenberg.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 5:19 a.m. CST

    "You can't help but root for him?"

    by KillDozer

    Seriously? Why? The Thing was perfect.<p>If you can give me just one thing you think the remake will do better than Carpenter's version, I'd love to hear it...<p>Fuck this remake.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 5:19 a.m. CST

    yeah the videogame was great

    by ominus

    it really captured the atmosphere and the essence of the movie.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 5:43 a.m. CST

    Jay Leno is worse than this prequel

    by PTSDPete

    Stupid times we're living in.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 5:57 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    Somewhere Kurt Russell downs a Scotch and laughs.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 7:01 a.m. CST

    Fletch is now available on instant netflix

    by Wordage

    It's the little things.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 7:08 a.m. CST

    Why the prequel-sequel thingy...

    by denzacar

    I see a lot of (rhetorical) questioning of the reason for the sequel and not much logical thinking here. The Thing ends with two humans killing the alien and then freezing to death. No alien for the sequel. So, they go back in time with the prequel, which tells the story of what happened before, leading up to the point where the 1982 movie starts. Only, they show us how the alien possibly escaped before the 1982 movie. So, now you have "elbow room" for the sequel. It still sucks that they are trying to make a franchise of a perfectly good "single" story.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 7:10 a.m. CST


    by denzacar

    "off a perfectly good "single" story."

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 7:15 a.m. CST

    Scratchmonkey, apparently not

    by white_vader

    From what's been said, apparently the Norwegians don't speak English, only the Americans. Now don't get me wrong, it still seems like shit, but apparently the chick not understanding what the Norwegians are saying and vice-versa is used to ratchet up the paranoia, which is actually a great device. The fact they've got Americans in there at all is not. <p> After Harry Potter and Lord of the rings made billions, I don't think American audiences care that much about "funny accents". Except for Australian ones. Aussie actors apparently have to do pretty much every accent but their own, but conversely no-one else seems to be able to do a decent Oz one and American audiences and the suits apparently think we're all English Cockneys (speecgh-wise) when it's nothing of the sort. So my bet is that Edgerton has an American accent in this, even though he speaks English anyway. Hollywood is fuckin' weird.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 7:44 a.m. CST

    It can work if...

    by zinc_chameleon

    they don't slavishly copy Carpenter's or Bottin's work. The one thing the writers have going for them is that we don't know how much a Thing has to become before it is sentient enough to build a space ship. When I saw the original, that was my main plot-hole. How could 1982 technology be enough for the Thing to build itself a spaceship, and how many/much Things does that take? We think it's just Wilfred Brimley, but at the end, we discover a whole colony of them grew up.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 7:53 a.m. CST

    Could be worthwhile casting...

    by ScriptCunt

    ... if she is QUICKLY absorbed by the Thing and becomes part of its spider-legged, walking vagina monster later in the flick.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 7:58 a.m. CST

    I hope she's The Thing and turns into a sex legged creature.

    by FlickaPoo

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 8:14 a.m. CST

    How does it end, Spoiler-Boy?

    by wtriker1701

    All Norwegians dead, the helicopter pilot rescues Winstead. As they lift up, she looks out for the huskey, they both understand each other perfectly. The helicopter is on its way back home, the dog runs off - you know where... END of MOVIE! <br> Or will there be white words before a black screen? "Already continued!"?

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 8:17 a.m. CST

    Almost sounds like a porno plot now

    by PowersBootheForDKR

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 8:51 a.m. CST


    by buggerbugger

    If the Norwegians don't speak English, I'm trying to figure out a reason why an English-only PhD "expert" would be flown in. Is the American pilot a translator, but he gets bumped off at some point, leaving Winstead with no way of communicating with anyone on the base?

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Denzecar you are wrong

    by D.Vader

    Carpenter's Thing ends with the alien supposedly killed, but it's entirely possible Childs has been infected with it offscreen. He does just sorta appear outta nowhere.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 9:11 a.m. CST

    One of the best things about Carpenter's version

    by Bruce of all Trades

    Was the all-male sausage fest cast.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 9:15 a.m. CST

    What are the chances this takes place in the 80s?

    by D.Vader

    Extremely doubtful.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Hopefully that doesnt ruin the dynamic

    by dale dragon

    One of the reasons the first was soo good, was the overall dudeness of it. Buncha dudes all stuck out in the middle of nowhere. Im worried that adding a hot female might make it more of a normal horror flick

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Smart Babes

    by RandomWordRandomWord

    This is just like that blonde computer genius from Transformers 1.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 9:32 a.m. CST

    You gotta be Fukin Kidding Me

    by R.J. MacReady

    I'll go along as long as everyone dies in the end. I don't see how they'll kill off Mary Elizabeth Winstead, and keep two norwegians alive until the research station. Please don't let this suck ass.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Ronald D. Moore's plan for the THING

    by DeckardBladeRunner

    So take one pointless prequel for a stand alone story and Add in RDM. Based on his track record I predict the following. 1- The thing will be used to highlight current political issues, and criticism of the US. 2- The Writing will be stilted so we will feel the Thing is the hero, and that the humans are the bad guys 3- Humans will try other humans for treason for not helping the Thing 4- after writing themselves in the corner, the writing team & Moore will just explain the Thing away as an angel, and it will disappear, no explanation given. Yeah, that's the RDM style, and, of course add this in to a totally pointless and un-necessary prequel of a stand alone horror classic.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 9:39 a.m. CST

    I liked BSG a lot...

    by TheWaqman

    true towards the end they did write themselves into a corner. But the first two seasons were fucking gold....however it's pretty easy to predict where Ron Moore might go with this. He's dealing with yet again another piece of source material that features an enemy that can replicate the humans. Also I heard some dumb ass rumor that they are throwing in MacReady's fucking brother in here. I hope not because that makes no fucking sense.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 9:46 a.m. CST

    where's lockesbrokenleg?

    by TheWaqman

    I hate to say that I miss the guy's ridiculous posts.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 9:51 a.m. CST

    No Rob Bottin, No Chance

    by blairmonster

    This movie has almost no chance from the word go — and if Rob Bottin is not involved, fogetaboutit. This 'thing' has no chance whatsoever. I will avoid it like he plague.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Harry Knowles = Idiot

    by whittiest


  • Feb. 8, 2010, 10:05 a.m. CST

    don't fuck this up

    by Waka_Flocka_Flame

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 10:19 a.m. CST

    Going to SUCK

    by shaneo632

    The original is a classic. How the fuck did it not get an Oscar nomination for its special effects?

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 10:35 a.m. CST

    She's cute, I'd do her...

    by REVENGE_of_FETT

    I'm not sure she rises to "hot babe" status, but she ain't ugly that's for sure.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 10:37 a.m. CST


    by DeckardBladeRunner

    I concur, the first 2.5 seasons of the RDM Battlestar were great- once they left New Caprica, adios well written awesome show, hello bad baaaaad writing. I'm thinking the Nu Thing will be more of the last 1.5 seasons of Battlestar, preachy crap written for shock value that "surprises" the viewer by making things up that make no sense and throw everything out that we know- for no reason. The THING is just such a property for him to ruin.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 10:37 a.m. CST

    'They're Angels'. 'God did it'.

    by SmokingRobot

    'Let's throw all our technology into the sun and doom ourselves, our children and our entire culture to a slow, painful and meaningless death'. Ron Moore is dead to me.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 10:38 a.m. CST

    I agree that The Thing is a crappy looking Blu-ray

    by REVENGE_of_FETT

    There are TONS of better looking discs out there. Stay away from Universal catalog titles in general because they just recycle DVD masters.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 10:50 a.m. CST

    I'd like to have Mary Elizabeth Winstead...

    by Nasty In The Pasty


  • Feb. 8, 2010, 10:57 a.m. CST

    I thought the BSG ending was ok

    by REVENGE_of_FETT

    It wasn't GREAT, but it was ok. I would have liked a few more things answered, but throwing away the technology that destroyed their race makes sense to me.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 11:11 a.m. CST


    by pumaman

    and I thought it was going to be Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio. WTF ever happened to that beautiful woman ?

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 11:17 a.m. CST

    I liked the ending actually

    by TheWaqman

    I just hated the episodes leading up to it. Seasons 3 and 4 just feel so tiring to sit through. But the ending was worth it for character closure, I cared more about the characters than I did the plot by that point. So I liked it a lot. But the plot closure was sloppy.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 11:31 a.m. CST

    what's the point of having a chick in a movie set

    by FamousEccles

    Arctic (or whatever)??? She'll have to have her clothes on all the time!!!

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 11:50 a.m. CST


    by uberman

    A hot American 20 year old LOVE INTEREST!!! Just like Carpenters 'THE THING.' The love interest is what sold that flick to us guys, cause we just has to have a love interest. AND THIS JUST IN: Said love interest and hunky lover will be the two to survive. Color this flick brown cause it just went to Shit.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 11:57 a.m. CST

    sounds like a prequel to AvP

    by We_like_it_VERY_MUCH

    and thats not a good thing :\ <P> WE all know "hot chicks" ruin genre films. John Carpenter knew that.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Who is this again???

    by Mrhazard

    Oh wait, she was the least interesting chick from Grindhouse... Now I remember...

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 12:24 p.m. CST

    But not the most annoying

    by TheWaqman

    God damn that black chick in Grindhouse was so annoying.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Harry, you're no "Genre fan"...

    by LoneGun

    ...if you don't know who Ronald D Moore is. Unless you were kidding, of course.<p>FACT: Ron Moore has produced one of the most significant and important science fiction epics in decades. It was only after he gave the genre credibility with his version of BATTLESTAR GALACTICA (a genuinely naturalistic sci-fi drama with interesting characters), that we got DISTRICT 9 (now nominated for the big Oscar). BSG opened the door for science fiction to be taken more seriously and to be appreciated even by those who don't consider themselves "Genre fans".

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Can't wait as long as it's not a REMAKE...

    by KHjLL

    Can't wait as long as it's not a REMAKE of JOHN CARPENTER'S THE THING...

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 12:50 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    I thought you were talking about Zooey Deschanel. <P> Next time, please no bait and switch article titles, okay?

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 1:06 p.m. CST

    I don't buy this prequel bullshit.

    by SebastianHaff

    Sure, it may take place at the Norwegian camp, but all the bats will be the same as Carpenter's. Also, I gurantee the title is The Thing. These cocksuckers aren't actually interested in a prequel, they just want to use a familiar title. Then they call it a prequel to shut the geeks up, and set it at the Norwegian camp so they can say, "see, our beat by beat remake isn't really a remake, cause it takes place at a different camp!" <p><br> That having been said, Mary Elizabeth Winstead is my number 1 hottest celebrity, perhaps tied with the girl that did the full frontal nude scene way back in Friday the 13th, part 2. I have jerked it to that scene more than any other movie, porno, image, magazine, or thought in the world. <p><br> ....That is all.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 1:07 p.m. CST


    by JamesT

    Moore's cinema work is pretty spotty. Not sure I'd trust him with this property..

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 1:07 p.m. CST

    All the BEATS will be the same.

    by SebastianHaff

    Not bats. Fucking no edit button!

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Well, they just fucked up this movie. Yawn.

    by BurnHollywood

    Beautiful PHD on an Antarctic base. Just try to mesh that with Carpenter's uber-gritty sausage-fest.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Yeah, this stinks of Hollywood suits tampering with it...

    by Ironhelix

    ...a previous poster said it best when it was pointed out that "HOT PUSSY IS WHAT WAS MISSING FROM THE THING". I'm not against the prequel idea, as there was obviously a whole other story to be told from the Norwegian's side, so why add the fucking Americans to it? This is an obvious case of the suits thinking "the audience needs someone to relate to!!" Yeah, because Norwegians aren't people or anything.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 1:38 p.m. CST

    And how cool would it have been...

    by Ironhelix

    ...if the whole film was in Norwegian? I think that would have added to the atmosphere, and overall "alien" feel. Well, except for actual Norwegians... but you know what I mean.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Lostokie, Joel edgerton

    by Narfolamew

    Is Astralian not British

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 1:57 p.m. CST

    like if/when they reboot robocop...

    by imagegod

    they'll probably make officer Lewis a super smoking chick and have it so that her and Murphy used to bang..but now he's a hideous machine! then they'll go on with some gay beauty and the beast crap. <p> man, the 80's had such balls.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:01 p.m. CST

    they have to reboot REMO WILLIAMS

    by quintana007


  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:04 p.m. CST


    by Rectal Blowout

    <P> No fucking Americans at the Norge camp. You stupid fucking moronic anal-licking, fagtards. Yes someone mentioned that the outside world has to know then. This FUCKING ruins any chances of a legit prequel. So the outside world doesn't bother contacting McMurdo? Come-on people grow a fucking brain. I hate Hollywood. </P> <P> What happened to Frank Darabont's continuation, the mini series for the SyFy channel? </P> <P> The best part of The Thing is that there is no women. Nothing to distract from the isolation. This makes all the dudes grumpy and trigger happy. Now with a vag running around we're going to have sappy crying moments, and her complaining about her time of the month. </P>

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:04 p.m. CST

    You goootta be fuckin kidding

    by Klytus_I.m_Bored

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Calling Winstead hot or a babe isn't sexist.

    by Flip63Hole

    I believe we call it a "compliment". It would be sexist to make disparaging comments regarding her gender...

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Hell Yes Quitana!

    by TedKordLives

    Fred Ward gotta eat!

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:39 p.m. CST

    After this maybe they'll make a prequel to the PREQUEL

    by Bruce of all Trades

    Describing what happened aboard the alien spacecraft.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:44 p.m. CST

    She's hot, but this is still a stupid idea.

    by lotharius3rd1118

    Seriously, why make a movie where the audience already knows the ending. There can't really be any suspense here, except waiting for the moment to find out what was the deal with the guy in the chair with the slit wrists and throat and when are they gonna get in a helicopter and take off after a dog, suddenly becoming the worst shots in the history of Norwegian science teams. I think I'd be less perturbed by a remake at this point.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:46 p.m. CST

    I'm waiting for the prequel to "March of the Penguins"

    by jawsfan

    I think it is called "February of the Penguins"

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:46 p.m. CST


    by jawsfan

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:47 p.m. CST

    I'm waiting for the prequel to "January Man"

    by jawsfan

    I think it's called "Just this past December Man"

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:48 p.m. CST

    I'm waiting for the prequel to "What Dreams May Come"

    by jawsfan

    It's called "What Dreams April Come"

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:48 p.m. CST

    I'm waiting for them to reboot "Das Boot"

    by jawsfan

    It will be called "Das Reboot"

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:49 p.m. CST

    I'm waiting for the prequel to "Malcolm X"

    by jawsfan

    It will be called "Malcolm IX"

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST

    The Reason A Female Is In This

    by jinste

    Is very simple-Political Correctness.This movie will simply reflect the times we live in-so as well as the girl,there will also be black,hispanic,oriental and gay Norwegians.You have to cover every base so you dont offend anyone.This,as Childs said in 82,is"a crock of shit".The cast in the Carpenter movie were a fairly diverse bunch,racially,but not to the point of obsession as is the norm today.The trouble is,when you try to please everybody,you often wind up pleasing nobody.And the end result is often bland and tedious.I hope that doesnt happen here.However,I am expecting the worst.I havent seen RDMs Battlestar,so I dont know what thats like.But you can bet your bottom dollar the suits will be wondering why,exactly,the 82 movie flopped.Suits,being mainly over-educated,underworked University graduates with no experience of real life,will over-analyse it.They wont think-well,Carpenters movie was up against ET.Nope,thats too simple and obvious.They will think-not enough teenagers,hot females,ethnic/sexual minorities,nudity,car chases,explosions,fist fights.We simply MUST have people wearing baseball caps back-to-front and calling each other homeys,motherf***er,and threatening to pop a cap in the Things ass.This movie is gonna suck.And you know the REALLY bad thing(pun intended) about it?The Thing Begins will probably be a HUGE,HUGE hit-leading to endless shitty sequels.God help us all.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Anyone heard from Rob Bottin on this?

    by lotharius3rd1118

    Would they be using his original creature designs, or would they just make a crappy, fast CGI thing that would look like the infected from "I Am Legend."

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:56 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    Buy one for your gal today! <P>

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 2:58 p.m. CST

    There are a lot of good prequels heading our way:

    by jawsfan

    11 Monkeys, 2011, The Two Amigos, American History W, Toy Story -1, I Know What You'll Do Next Summer, 1940, The Lion in Fall, Legends of the Summer, Corvette Spring, Very Young Frankenstein, Six, and Logan's Warm-up Stretch

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Another Prequel: My Right Foot

    by Klytus_I.m_Bored

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 3:09 p.m. CST

    what's the point

    by Gh0ulardi

    if Rob Bottin and the late Stan Winston aren't involved then it's just gonna be all vanilla PG-13 gayness like the first AVP.<br><br>might as well enlist Paul W.S. Anderson to direct.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 3:13 p.m. CST

    And that's two votes for Paul W.S. Anderson.

    by TedKordLives

    I say give it to him already.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 3:13 p.m. CST

    this new Thing

    by Gh0ulardi

    is definitely leaving a bad Paul Anderson AVP taste in my mouth.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 3:20 p.m. CST



    A girl turns up to help ....... ?? Fucking crap. This will suck seven shades of shit.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 3:36 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    undertones of Carpenter's version.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Now I like hot babes as much as the next guy....

    by Cervantes

    ....but I just don't want to see any running about in any fucking 'The Thing' prequel!!<P>The great thing about JC's seminal version was that it was a purely male cast of various ages. No distracting females required as eye-candy, which made for a certain gravitas of interaction.<P>Although I'm a Brit, I certainly welcome a Yank or two what the hell do some think the likes of Kurt Russell is?....Chinese?<P>Not to sound sexist, but my high hopes of an equally female-free zone for this movie have now been severely dashed....and this movie's potential 'tone' has just been compromised....<P>I just hope the 'Thing' designs/effects are as inventive this time around!

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 4:12 p.m. CST

    The Thing blu ray

    by imagegod

    is all kinds of awesome. looks better than some of my other, more recent blu ray films.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 4:14 p.m. CST

    How about a prequel to the prequel?

    by fiester

    Cut out the middleman and make a movie about the Thing and how it happened to crash land on Earth--90 minutes of shapechanging things scrabbling with one another followed by a big space shit crashing into the ice. Why the hell not?

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 4:17 p.m. CST

    no chicks, ever, in THE THING

    by ravenloff

    ...easily Carpenter's best work. Then, like M. Night, he went off into that good night and produced a lot of crap. One of the best things about THE THING was the COMPLETE LACK OF A LOVE INTEREST. Now, I'm as hetero as the next guy, but I'm NOT looking forward to seeing a CHICK in the very, very machismo THE THING. I highly suspect they're going to play up the babe aspect as, by Harry's comments, she's "hot"...ugh.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 4:21 p.m. CST

    "We're gonna find out who's human and who's the thing."

    by fiester

    "Now strip down to your panties and stand there shivering and nipping out in the cold so I can take a blood sample."

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 4:32 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    We'll see a giant vagina monster? Sounds good to me.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 4:32 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 4:37 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Jessica Alba is hotter than MEW?

    by sansara07

    Maybe six years ago, but since Alba pumped up her lips and had other bits and pieces done she doesn't give me the rock-hard boner that she used to. At least MEW is untouched for now. And unless you are 14 I just can't see how you can find Megan Fox sexy. Fuckable, but not sexy.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Aaarghh fuck you smoking robot

    by white_vader

    I was late to BESG and only watched a couple of the first episodes, so I waited (as everybody said how great it was) to do the whole thing at once (like Deadwood), bought the big-arse blu-ray set and was just about to get down to it. While I understand people will be talking about the end, you've got to be a king-sized arsehole to spoil the ending without any warning in a thread that has nothing to do with it. Now I can't even read the rest of the tb. Thanks a lot fuckwit.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 4:54 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    You can still return it.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 4:57 p.m. CST

    The penny has just dropped - hear me out

    by Gman22

    If they do a sequel, firstly they lose a lot of younger viewers who aren't familiar with the story of The Thing. IF they remake it NOW... they intially lose a lot of viewers who dont want a remake. So what is the logical step? Visit the unexplored story from the beginning of the film, that way old fans will want to see it and new fans will go because its starting at square one. IF they're then successful or the movie makes enough, then I am SURE they will remake The Thing and continue it on, possibly to be a franchise. As much as I dont want this to happen, it makes logical sense thinking about it from a money making point of view.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 5:01 p.m. CST

    But seeing we're tsalking about already-known endings

    by white_vader

    does everyone in this tb hate every biopic ever made? The whole "we know the ending" thing is a bullshit excuse for hating a film. It didn't hurt Lawrence of Arabia, or Citizen Kane! The whole point of that story structure and challenge is that you become invested enough to not WANT the inevitable to happen or just become interested enough by the elements DESPITE knowing the eventual outcome. I know I'll die eventually but I don't say "well what's the point" and go commit suicide. It's such a non-thinking argument, this whole ending thing. <p> What IS absolutely true and defensible is that The Thing is a classic self-contained story that doesn't REQUIRE another film, prequel or sequel. In effect it's actually it's own sequel, because the ambiguous end means YOU carry it on in your own mind AFTER the thing has finished. I dunno, you guys...

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Mmm nope BSB, too expensive

    by white_vader

    Got it from Amazon U.S. and live down under. I guess I'll just have to take my own advice and watch it anyway despite knowing the outcome. Still means Smoking robot is a king-sized fuck though because it wasn't done that way to start with. <p> Oh and "talking", not "tsalking" as above.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 5:13 p.m. CST

    Now wait..I hate remakes as much as the next guy

    by skimn

    and when I (listened to Harry) and brought an early Toshiba HD player, Carpenter's The Thing was one of my first buys. But it sounds like they may be using Hawks original as a template, which may not be a bad thing (no pun intended). I wouldn't mind a witty, fast talking, colorful character story with scary monster and gore added. Carpenter's work can stand aside to this as a whole another thing (still no pun intended) altogether.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 5:55 p.m. CST

    This is one of the most beloved science fiction films ever...

    by newkie brown

    ...I hope the people behind this new version know that the script needs to be absolutely watertight. If it's even slightly 'dumb' this film will get the shit kicked out of it from day one.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 6:10 p.m. CST

    I forgot the Moore connection, and new news.

    by white_vader

    but I'm still pissed at Smoking Robot. <p> Oh and apparently it gets even better for this film - according to Dark Horizons she's a STUDENT working on her phd! Edgerton is the "mercenary helicopter pilot (hmmm sounds a bit Captain Mal to Han Solo doesn't it)" who helps to try to stop the Thing escaping. Must be a different pilot from the two absolutely Norwegian guys at the start of Carpenter's film... And of course the Americans/American & Australian are the stars, not the Norwegians. Sigh.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Gman, yes, of course from a lazy, greedy money pov

    by white_vader

    it's very logical. That's not what we're all talking about though. We're all saying it doesn't NEED to exist and if it's all for money then fuck them and fuck it. They're losing the existing fanbase (whether they do a remake or prequel) because there IS no real unexplored story. We don't just get to see them chasing the dog, Macready and pals go to the Norwegian camp and work out EXACTLY what happened to the Norwegians, which is used well to prefigure/forewarn/build tension/set up the SAME THING happening in their own camp in the same damn movie! There are NO loose threads. You haven't seen the Carpenter one for a while I take it...

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 6:35 p.m. CST

    How the fuck can a chick be in The Thing?!?!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    Sure it'll work IF its the b&we version, but IF its a prequel to Carpenter's version than FAIL!!!

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 6:51 p.m. CST

    I hope they don't stuff up the Blu-ray of Dune

    by white_vader

    which they're porting over from the HD-DVD master the way they did with Carpenter's The Thing.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 6:52 p.m. CST

    cast of The Thing is what puts it over the top

    by MacReady452

    All regular guys who have the potential to be "the thing". I never thought Wilford Brimley was a suspect when I first watched it. I just thought he was paranoid and going insane. That is why they movie is fucking awesome. EVERYONE is a suspect.<p>This new shit is incapable of coming close to The Thing. Waste of everyone involveds time. From craft services to me as a viewer. Waste of time.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 7:43 p.m. CST

    Watered-down FX and MTV editing guaranteed.

    by venvariants

    This crap is going to look like those edit-a-minute AVP movies with none of the gore of Carpenter's picture. I'll lay money on it. And NO - Bottin won't be involved because it will all be CGI.


  • Feb. 8, 2010, 7:44 p.m. CST

    "take on the material", even

    by Kaitain

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 7:45 p.m. CST


    by Kaitain

    "Hey Blair, ya down there? We got somethin' for ya!" <p> It was never clear to me that Blair was a thing *while* he was going insane and smashing up the radio room. He might have been; he might not.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 7:59 p.m. CST


    by Kaitain

    "Why not make a sequel where The Thing gets loose in the city?" <p> Because it could not possibly be contained, and there'd be no tension; the humans could not possibly win. Either that, or you'd need some kind of deus ex machine "magic bullet" that kills them all in one go, which would be even worse.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Mary Elizabeth Winstead

    by finky089

    shoulda been Mary Jane in the Spidey franchise. Compare her to that other snaggletooth wench and it's amazing they ever cast Snagglepuss Dunst.

  • A student. A FUCKING STUDENT is brought in to help them. How on ANY planet does this make any lick of sense?

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 8:34 p.m. CST

    Dah Tiiinga!

    by dogu4

    I'd seen the Howard Hawkes version one late night on Shock Theater,the original sci-fi TV, back when black and white was all there was anyhow...and for a little kid it was nightmare territory and furthering the already venerable tradition that originated with Borsi Karloff in "the Mummy", where the a film-maker keeps the scarey monsters and stuff in the viewer's mind, not on the screen. It was so much more psychological that way...except for that horrific scene of the monster burning in agony amid its screams. One of the most compelling scenes in cinema history. How could they ever re-make that? I didn't catch the Carpenter re-make in the theaters when it was first released. I was working in some wilderness, far from movie houses. Back then if you missed it while on the movie circuit, the only other option was to wait for the release on the then newly introduced format of home-VHS, that is, unless you happened to catch it shown on a 16mm version as it was released in a limited way through the US Military's special services. They had a special agreement with Hollywood that allowed them to show them as 16mm films for morale purposed for military personel stationed at remote bases, which is where I found myself seated in a converted Navy Seabee chow-hall, or as the Navy called it "the Galley", coincidentally at the most remote, and foreign, and infact otherworldly, place there was on this planet; McMurdo Station, Antarctica, on the very first time it was ever shown there, on my very first evening at what was to be my home for the next 6 months, and for a couple years after that, there in August of '82. I was with the relief crew that flew into Willie Field in late winter, when the temperatures had finally warmed to only minus 40 and when there was all of 4 (count 'em: f-o-u-r)hours of daylight and long month an a half before the regulars arrived and the research season kicked into full phase. I have to hand it to Carpenter. He did catch some of the feel of the place, even if there were no flamethrowers...and many a time I wish I had a handy flame-thrower if only to burn down the captain's quarters. I guess I have a thing for officers and authority...all the more reasons to not have flamethrowers conveniently hanging up everywhere. Being part of the Antarctic Treaty, a section of which prohibited any fire-arms, there semi-officially was only one gun on station. It was a small bore, bolt action my office safe. I knew where we stashed the bullets. Sometimes the wind would howl just'd make a mental note to check to see if the rifle were still locked up. I knew I wasn't gonna go crazy from the cold and dark, but some of these other guys had been down here for a year already, the last months of which were in the dark, with only sporadic contact with the outside world. Some of the scientists especially had developed a crazy kind of look in their eyes, and a sort of laugh they'd make whenever we'd ask 'em "how'd did your experiments go over the winter?". Oh, and then there was Jimmy, the kid from some desert town in Nevada. He liked it down there he said. Maybe too much, I thought. But then 'other things' would divert your attention. Maybe something would break in the cold. Maybe we'd hear some scratchy news about Ronald Reagan and the Russians playing at some kind of nuclear warhead powered game of 'winner takes all'. Cowboy diplomacy meets soviet realpolitik. They said they wouldn't leave us down here. They said lots of things. At times like that you'd find yourself wondering and asking in long BS sessions with others about who on base could make a functioning boat AND sail it back to New Zealand, or Tasmania....800 miles across the roaring 40s.How long would it take? Who would be most likely to channel the spirit of Ernest Shacklelton? God, this is an aweful place... I'm looking forward to the prequel and am available for consultation.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 8:36 p.m. CST

    excuse me sirs, but we just learned at university

    by MacReady452

    about frozen organisms. I know you all have years of real world experience but they sent me out here to tell you what to do and show you my tits. (i hope)

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 8:41 p.m. CST

    "I'd just like to point out..."

    by D.Vader

    "... That its cold. And my nips are hard."

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 8:49 p.m. CST

    Jesus....RDM is involved in this?

    by KillDozer

    I guess the bright side is this time I don't have to wait two seasons to realize he doesn't know what he's doing...

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 9:09 p.m. CST


    by white_vader

    How do you explain Deep Rising then? Stop it with the simpleminded cg bashing, and research your Rob Bottin before mouthing off. I hope this one combines both practical and cg and takes the best of both worlds approach. Idiotic and myopic clinging to so-called "pure" approaches holds everyone and everything back. If Rick Baker and Rob Bottin thought that way, prosthetics would never have progressed to the animatronics we have these days. The stop-mo/puppet stuff in The Thing WASN'T rooted to the spot? Think about whether this creature would actually be like that at all. <p> Also, take another look at Carpenter's The Thing - it's not as gory as you think. One of the many reasons I love it so much is that it has the balls to be actually outrageous and cheesy. It's the chutzpah that awes us in that movie. Not so much red gore as heaps of blue, purple and even green and yellow gunk. The "jaws" scene looks ludicrous even in the boards (Ploog is great though), and the finished effect is hilarious, but so awesome because they have the guts to be outrageous. I think nostalgia clouds perception very easily. The Thing's effects endure so well because the CONCEPTS and design is so strong it convinces us even if it's obvious they were taking cow's livers outta there or filming stuff backwards. <p> That's why "You gotta be fucking kidding me" works so beautifully. In the scene, but for the film and effects as a whole. You can't help but admire their balls (so to speak). <p> I'm so sick of philistines who know nothing about either process (and mainly grew up in the digital age anyway) running their mouths on a subject they know pretty much zip about. Saying things like "guaranteed" and "I'll lay money on it" are just sorta careless and thoughtless and like the idiotic "fact!" followed by subjective conjecture. These threads always turn into cg hatefests. <p> But I still think they should quit while they're behind...

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 9:11 p.m. CST

    It's a remake

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Just cut it out already. No other "movie=based-on-the-same-source-material-but-it's-not-a-remake" gets that treatment, why should this one?

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 9:18 p.m. CST

    Ehhhhh, I think The Thing is pretty gory, Half Vader

    by D.Vader

    I mean, it shows a dog's face splitting apart at four seams. That's bugnuts gross/gory. <p> And a man's head tearing off at the neck... alien or not, it still looks human.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Not JUST a student,

    by white_vader

    but a stuf=dent studying for her phd! Brains AND looks - why wouldn't she be down there at the bottom of the world with a bunch of Norwegians when she doesn't speak their language instead of the next camp over which is American?! <p> ;)

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 9:34 p.m. CST

    I didn't say there wasn't any gore,

    by white_vader

    or that it wasn't gory, I said not as gory as people think - just that a lot of the stuff is outrageous purples and greens, more than I think people realise or remember. The spiderhead is a good case though - gory, but (literally) bubblegum coming out of the neck, green and yellow ooze, and that's before the legs and eyes even pop out. It's pretty stylised. Yeah the very first shot is more 'realistic' though. Anyway, hopefully you get my point. Look at the jaws scene. <p> Actually to me one of the best gross scenes was when everything's sorta black (almost in silhouette, which both stylises it AND makes you imagine it's even worse) with caro syrup everywhere and they're breaking off lobster legs. With the backwards-dog stuff, I love that after the head splits (like a flower actually) and it grows, it turns into a full-on fifties homage with the big lump and the eye in the middle. Don't misunderstand, it's one of my fave all-time movies and my love of practical effects and old-school films is what drove me to stop being a fanboy and get into this business in the first place. Cheers man. <p> Oh and student, not "stuf=dent"!

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 9:34 p.m. CST

    Gee, I wonder how it ends?

    by SmokingRobot

    Oh yeah, it turns into a dog and runs away. Gosh, I just saved 10 bucks.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Yeah Halfsies, what do you do exactly?

    by D.Vader

    I read in another TB that you're in the business too, doing storyboards and other stuff... I don't think I knew that about you. I'd like to know more.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Don't fuck it up

    by RickyRetardo

    a) use practical fx as much as possible...think homage to the Carpenter version b) see if Ennio Morricone can at least oversee the music, if not do the fucking score himself c) try to keep it vag-free, but if you can't, then at least have a realistic character actor, not some tarted-up excuse for lady-in-peril bullshit d) don't hold back on the gore and make it a hard R e) plenty of whiskey drinkin' and dope smokin', just like in real-life Antarctica

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 10:23 p.m. CST


    by gonkdroid

    thing we don't need in this movie: 1) sexual tension 2) the bullshit "wow, she's actually hot!" moment when out heroine removes the bulky winter outfit on arrival 3) the mandatory knock on the door, she doesn't hear, he walks in a we get a peek at her ass 4) sacrifice please take note and change script accordingly.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 10:26 p.m. CST

    "Funny things, I hear funny things out here"

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    "I'm all better now, and I wanna come back inside. C'mon, man."

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 10:29 p.m. CST

    Yeah big D

    by white_vader

    I do those things, as well as various effects stuff, mascot & character design, and overseeing sculpts, suits and merch from my designs. Whatever keeps thing going/interesting. Teaching myself to sculpt both traditionally and digitally at the same time so I can control misinterpretations and keep an objective viewpoint whether I'm working practically or digitally. It's all good! <p> But like I say, I've worked on some of fandom's most hated!

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 10:30 p.m. CST


    by gonkdroid

    and why in the hell would they fly someone in when there are scientists and doctors one camp over? Mr. Quaker Oats figured it out pretty fast.

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 11:34 p.m. CST

    maybe we're at war with Norway?

    by frank cotton

  • Feb. 8, 2010, 11:49 p.m. CST

    the more I come back to this thread,

    by MacReady452

    the more angry I become. Please disassociate this film from John Carpenters version entirely.<p>Simply refer to this movie as Who Goes There? with no reference to the previous versions.<p>Nothing will ever top the gore, suspense, cast, and vibe of Carpenters and to compare the 2 is unfair to a movie that hasn't even begun filming.<p>This is like if I picked up a bat that Babe Ruth used to hit homeruns with. Just cause he did it doesn't mean that I'm even gonna get out of the infield.<p>The total failure of this new movie will in no way effect the FACT that The Thing is one of the top 5 horror movies of the last 30 years. I will now dump J&B scotch into my computer.

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 12:07 a.m. CST


    by whittiest

    LoneGun, please tell me you're not so mind-numbingly stupid that you actually thought Harry didn't know who Ron Moore was. Good frakkin' god. Of COURSE he knew who Moore was. He was being ironic. (Granted, given Harry's piss-poor writing skills, particularly in this article, it's not surprising that someone would misunderstand his intent.)

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 12:26 a.m. CST

    Day 2 of bashing this movie!

    by Colt19801980

    did i mention this is going to be crap? like others have pointed out, if they sent an american, they knew something was up and would have contacted their AMERICAN TEAM...right? RIGHT? FAIL

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 12:33 a.m. CST

    Ah, it's O.K. Colt,

    by white_vader

    it gives us something to do before Transformers 3 gets going!

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 12:52 a.m. CST

    Another reason this already sucks

    by Colt19801980

    In Carpenter's version, Blair is standing over Windows as he's trying to radio for help...Blair: "get a hold of somebody, get a hold of anybody, we gotta report his mess"...Windows: "look i havent been able to reach shit in two weeks! i doubt if anybody's talked to anybody on this entire continent"...these guys didn't last several days, so the norwegian camp must not have lasted as long either if you work backwards from the time they were shooting at the dog at the beginning of The how could the Americans have sent one of their own to the norwegian camp if the radio communications have been down in that entire area for two weeks! FAIL

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 1:40 a.m. CST

    by Capt. Miller

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    by Capt. Miller

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    by Capt. Miller

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    by Capt. Miller

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 1:52 a.m. CST

    Remember Zack Snyder

    by Capt. Miller

    I bet a lot of you guys trashed the Zack Snyder DAWN OF THE DEAD remake before you saw it. Probably screamed and cried about running zombies and how shitty it was going to be. And then you liked it, and liked Zack, and so when ZOMBIELAND came out nobody said shit about running zombies. The effects in J.C's THING were state of the art. The work Rob did was amazing, even Rick Baker admits that it was better than what anyone (including him) had been doing at the time. But it was state of the art for 1982. I think that we can all agree that a lot has happened in the effects space in the last 30 years. I also imagine that we can all agree that the majority of what has happened in said space was NOT IN THE PRACTICAL SPACE. The great shit now is at the least a marriage of practical and synthetic, and very likely the majority is of the latter. That's state of the art today, fellas. Don't let your nostalgia lead you to ignorant conclusions that this has to be practical to work. That's just stupid. Hopefully they will be respectful of the J.C. movie (a remake by the way). At least they are not ignoring it and just making their own version. That guy's commercials are sick.

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 2:03 a.m. CST

    This all seems very direct-to-video at the moment.

    by Knuckleduster

    And I have a nasty suspicion we're going to be seeing a lot of shitty CG Thing shots. <p> Hey, maybe they can use mo-cap when they get Orlando Bloom to play Daniel Plainview in There Will Be More Blood 2: The Gusher.

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 2:21 a.m. CST

    Capt. Miller

    by Colt19801980

    Nostalgia has nothing to do with's hollywood's track record of making shitty prequels and sequels, especially in the horror genre that has everybody worried. the bottom line is, they've already planted a hot american chick into this movie and created a massive plot hole before filming has even started...they're going to have to do an awful lot of contrived exposition to explain how the hell they could have gotten word something was wrong and set up and flown in an american PhD when communications had been down for two weeks before the beginning of The Thing (as stated in the dialogue), and why the Norwegians didn't just go to the american camp for assistance's just an excuse to have "the hot chick" in a movie... that's clue number 1 that it's going to be business as usual. I'd call it healthy don't fuck your girl without a condom when you know she's had a history of screwing around.

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 2:34 a.m. CST

    Any rollerskating in this one?

    by white_vader

    If not, then fuck it.

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 2:36 a.m. CST

    "The Thong" --- that was funny!

    by jawsfan

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 5:16 a.m. CST


    by Capt. Miller

    I hear you on being let down before but I've also had movies come through for me in the past. Unless somebody's read the script (and I haven't) who knows how they plan on addressing that stuff. Hopefully they are at least as smart as we are. I looked at the credits of the guys that are making the movie and they actually made Zack Snyder's DAWN. And CHILDREN OF MEN. Maybe they know what they are doing. And like I said, I liked that guy's commercials. Youtube them. But what the fuck do i know. I remember hearing that they were doing the Norwegians and I thought that was cool. I (try to) never allow myself to be neg. It's not easy but on the plane ride home they other day I watched DISTRICT 9 and then MAG 7 was on later that night and i was really happy to be a fan and have my day made.

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 6:03 a.m. CST

    Zack Snyder...

    by Toilet_Terror

    ugh... I hope his cartoon bombs.

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 6:32 a.m. CST

    Second Day Bashing

    by DeckardBladeRunner

    Yeah this crap deserves every hit it is going to get. And as for the Zach Snyder Remake- it was a remake, you could at least hate or like it on it's own merits, just like when Carpenter remade the THING from the 50's version. The complete ass-hattery here is the clunky attempt to shoe-horn in a PREQUEL that makes no sense, and is un-neccessary as fuck. <p> The THING has conventions and a decent fan base- look up outpost 51 on the internet- they even take trips out to British Columbia to hike the sites from the film- respect the fans for christ-sakes and just make a do-over. <p> of course these are the same suits that took and took all the fan critcism off and made it a gossip blog, Im going to the replacement site- bone the fish- to start a THING topic of when this series went "downhill" the 2010 prequel.

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 6:43 a.m. CST

    The Thing- on Bone the Fish

    by DeckardBladeRunner

    I opened up a category for the Thing movies on bone the fish, There were two user comments on here I put over there- credited to their authors- thanks for the laughs on those two- Jinste and Stegman84- hilarious!! <p>

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 7:12 a.m. CST

    We dont need a Thing thing...

    by Oprah_Duke

    Just watch The Thing.

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 7:15 a.m. CST

    Ok, maybe we could use...

    by Oprah_Duke

    The Thing: Port Of Call New Orleans.

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 7:59 a.m. CST

    ...You americans...

    by schizonerd

    " long you can put your THING in them" thats all that has to work for you guys...looks over character. The same old same old...It's sad to know that there will never be a casting as in "Alien" because the chicks were not "fuckable" enough... You want porn chicks? Watch Porn!

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 8:31 a.m. CST

    Jay Leno is worse than a remake

    by PTSDPete

    You call this an idea, Hollywood ?!?

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 10:21 a.m. CST

    'The Thing' DVD commentary

    by Demarco

    Anyone listen to the commentary on the dvd? The suits wanted to put some females in the '82 version as well but Carpenter nixed the idea as unrealistic for the time, which was completely true. Shouldn't this hold true for a prequel as well? Also, what's wrong with having another all male cast? Are we really supposed to be that insecure with our sexuality now that we need a woman in the cast just to reassure us that we aren't watching a gay arthouse flick? Fuck that. I'd rather go back to the old days when men were men and as a kid you had gruff, square-jawed, ass-kickers to look up to rather than metrosexual pretty boys.

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Females at Antarctic Research Stations...

    by dogu4

    Even back in '82, there were women working on the ice, though the women Hollywood would have selected would have made it pretty unappealing unless ones' tastes ran towards flannel.

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 12:05 p.m. CST

    This series needs... STRONG FEMALE LEAD!!

    by Immortal_Fish

    Hollowood would remake 12 Angry Men with 9 guys and 3 chicks.

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 12:29 p.m. CST

    how could you love any part of this prequel?

    by just pillow talk

    Horrible, horrible idea.

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Lets re-make Cameron's Aliens while we are at it....

    by faux1975

    It's about time hollywood get's "2012'ed" and falls off into the Pacific ocean. I have had enough of my favorite childhood movies getting replaced by absolute garbage.....

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 3:05 p.m. CST

    One of the elements that was so great about the original

    by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave

    was the all-male cast. For a story about paranoia and distrust that was a key factor, since a group of guys holed up and suffering cabin fever are going to be prone to displays of outward aggression and violence, without the calming or mediating influence of women. I always thought that was a very deliberate choice on Carpenter's part, but there's no chance they'll retain it in the remake.

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 4:28 p.m. CST

    faux1975 -'2012ed'

    by white_vader

    Then that was a really BAD example to use!

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 7:48 p.m. CST

    If you go prequel, go prequel...

    by Det. John Kimble

    You know they found Shackleton's stash of whiskey? Anyway, here's an old comment of mine from It's 1851. A British Antarctic Expeditionary Force is attempting to penetrate further south than any previous expedition ever has. But they’ve started too late in the season, and their ship becomes trapped in pack ice. They can only look on as the ship is slowly crushed. (If Bill Paxton is cast in this, this is where he says "There goes our ride home") With no ship and few provisions salvaged, the men assemble a few sleds and together with their dogs, head away from the heaving ice pack, inland towards a supply dump left by a previous expedition, hoping the map they carry is accurate. There is despair. There is natural attrition - some of the men can't survive the harsh conditions and expire. But a core group reaches the area indicated on the map, only to find that the supply dump has long since been shredded by wind. Desperate, the men begin to talk of dark matters – the sled dogs and the Donner Party are central themes of the low whispers over a wind-whipped campfire. Morning breaks – and we hear the sound of one of the sled dogs barking. He senses something on the air. The men set off to investigate, hoping the dog has caught the scent of a fur seal or something else worth eating. Instead what they find a few leagues from their camp is a metal dome, protruding from just above the surface of the ice. There are two hatches in the dome: one is open, and blocked solidly with ice. The other remains closed. The dogs are keen but apprehensive as the men attempt to pry open the second hatch. When it is at last finally sprung, the dogs howl mournfully – but the men are at the breaking point: surely there must be something inside they can salvage? By lantern light, two of the crew enter the hatch and descend, amazed at the materials and craftsmanship they find inside – but also at the violence that has wrecked much of the interior. Nothing is more astounding though, than the large man-like creature that sits, frozen solid at what they can only assume is the helm. It is dead. But it is also meat. And it is preserved. And they are so very hungry…

  • Feb. 9, 2010, 7:49 p.m. CST

    Oh, by the way, I hope Winstead's character is named...

    by Det. John Kimble

    Dr. Christmas Jones

  • Feb. 10, 2010, 6:08 a.m. CST

    Matthijs Van Heijningen Jr. is directing because....

    by spudwas

    He's a producers son. Need I say more?....well maybe we all can have such luck......sigh.

  • Feb. 10, 2010, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Reason for Winstead's character

    by skimn

    You know how producers love the "gotcha" ending? The reason for casting Winstead is so she and one other male cast member can be the sole survivors. They look at each other and state, "Well I guess we made it.", while looking longingly at each other. They embrace. Then kiss. The kiss is full of passion, as they both survived the horrors of the day. Then...BAM. The creatures multiforked tongue tears through the back of his head spewing bone and brain matter. Winsteads a thing!! THE END<p>Yup, producers love shit like that.