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Published on Sunday, February 7, 2010 - 4:21am |
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Quint saw the SBIFF Tribute to James Cameron! He talks AVATAR, TERMINATOR, ALIENS, Roger Corman, sneaking into USC & much more!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with a rundown of tonight’s big James Cameron event at the 25th Santa Barbara International Film Festival. He received the Modern Master award from the festival tonight, presented by the Governor himself, Arnold Schwarzenegger.
This isn’t the first time I’ve seen Cameron get an award at SBIFF. He was given one for his documentary work in the heyday of his underwater exploration films and it was at that time that I sat down with him and did one of my favorite chats with one of my favorite directors. You can read that now 4 year old interview here. Ah, the old Dirty Joke final question days…
I’m hoping that Copernicus gets some sit down time with Cameron this time out. If you read his Science of Avatar story you’ll know why he’s much more up to the task at quizzing the man than I am.
Anyway, it’s late and I don’t want to bore you with all this crap. Let’s get into the event, which I’ll hit in bullet points as I feature Kraken’s photography.
Leonard Maltin hosted the Q&A and when Cameron was called up on stage he immediately went into his speech because of a miscommunication about when he was actually getting the award. They paused the speech after about 5 minutes and started the Q&A only to stop it again when Arnold showed up to present the award. You’ll see that represented below, but I wanted to give an idea of how loose the night was.

-When asked about filmic influences, Cameron went back to the Harryhausen films… specifically name-checking Jason and the Argonauts, The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad, Mysterious Island and 20 Million Miles to Earth. He said it was dreamlike to him because he had no idea what Stop Motion was. He also had a steady diet of Science-Fiction and comic books.
-Wizard of Oz is his favorite movie and he loves it because of the combination of beauty and terror that exist in that world. He told his design team on Avatar that he wanted to “scare the crap out of people, but I also want it to be beautiful.”
-As a kid Cameron didn’t know if was going to draw or write. He drew a lot of his own comics as a kid. He had a “narrative impulse” and a “visual impulse” that he didn’t realize he could actually combine by becoming a filmmaker until he was in his 20s.
-His first paying job was on Roger Corman’s (great) Battle Beyond the Stars. He was hired originally as a model builder, but he became the art director almost immediately. It was a trial by fire. “We knew just enough to be dangerous, but not enough to know we shouldn’t even be trying what we were doing.”
-Said he was a better artist and a better filmmaker than a leader at the start.
-“You have to create your own luck” is a lesson he learned on the Corman films. Not in a nefarious way, but that you have to be persistent and prepared for when opportunity comes. “No fate but what we make” from the Terminator films comes from this philosophy.

-When he was a truck driver, he’d drive all week, but on Saturdays he’d go down to USC (he was not a student there, mind you) and go into the stacks and Xeroxed copies of American Cinematographer to thesis done on optical printing or break downs of film stocks and he brought all that back home and organized it binders, studying them.
-First break was when he was allowed to do 2nd unit directing on another Roger Corman film (he didn’t mention the title, but it’s probably the extremely twisted Galaxy of Terror). As an effects guy and production designer he convinced Corman that the director wasn’t getting enough coverage of the effects, so he got the 2nd Unit director job at the expense of his production designer gig.
-The production was so over schedule that he got to direct a lot with the actors. The production essentially had two 1st Units running simultaneously. Even though he was petrified at working with actors they all started requesting to be put into his unit because they liked him better.
-Piranha 2: The Spawning. Cameron was hired to direct, flew to Rome, completed a couple of weeks of preproduction, flew to Jamaica and shot for 4 days before being replaced by the Italian producer, notorious for taking over his films. “It ended up being good for me because the film turned out to be a stinker.”
-They then showed the Power Suit vs. Alien Queen scene from ALIENS… it was really kinda cool to watch Cameron watching his own movies, especially for one of his best. He said afterwards that this is probably what “Hell for directors is… watching your movies on an endless loop at 180db.”
-Cameron commented on the fight, that pre-CG the executed it with a Bunraku Japanese puppet style miniature effects and real life-sized puppets created by Stan Winston. There were two guys, sitting side by side inside the life-sized puppet, each one operating one big arm and one small arm. The Alien Queen was designed around the two-man rig. He then demonstrated the arm-waving.

-Cameron pointed out the shot where you can see Lance Henriksen’s body as he reaches for Newt, the half-body lifting up off the ground revealing his torso. “It’s an interesting lesson in how we perceive film. Nobody is looking there, they’re looking at where his hand is. ‘Will he be able to catch her?’” Cameron himself didn’t notice it until the premiere.
-T2 was kicking around for a while. Schwarzenegger wanted to do one and when Cameron talked to Linda Hamilton, who he refused to do the movie without, she gave him the idea that Sarah Connor would be crazy, mentally torn apart with the foreknowledge of the murder of 6 billion people. He wrote from there.
-After the clip from T2 (the drainage canal chase), the T-800 himself, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger came out to present Cameron the award.

-Schwarzenegger came out like a stand-up comic, saying he’s there to celebrate a great immigrant story, a man who came to Hollywood and made billions of dollars, became admired by millions of people… but “that’s enough talking about myself. I got carried away! Sorry about that!”
-Another Governator zinger: “His movies have made billions and billions of dollars world-wide. As a matter of fact, he made so much money that all of this money together could have wiped out the State’s budget deficit!”
-Schwarzenegger said “Avatar” a few times and every single time it came out like “Ahvadah.” He joked that Cameron intentionally chose that title because he knew it was impossible for Arnie to pronounce.

-Despite all the talk about Avatar 2 going forward, Cameron said he hasn’t decided what he’s going to do next.
-After sitting back down to continue the discussion, Cameron fawned over Schwarzenegger’s presence in the original Terminator saying he was known as being “the ultimate physical form” back then, but that in 90% of the movie he’s in biker leather, with the camera close on his face. What attracted Cameron to him for the part was Schwarzenegger’s ability to be as cold as ice, the opposite from his turn in Conan the Barbarian.
-Apparently Schwarzenegger loved going out to restaurants still in the Stan Winston make-up, with half of his face ripped off.
-There were 42 CG shots in Terminator 2, which forced a merge of computer effects and Stan Winston’s mechanical work. Compare that with Avatar, which was 2600 CG shots.

-The Abyss was Cameron’s most demanding shoot, physically. He’d literally go home and fall asleep with his fork still in his mouth.
-Originally the Water Tentacle was written as the aliens using water as a probe, but instead of a tentacle it was just “intelligent water” that spilled into the room on the floor. Although he had no idea how to pull it off, he changed it into a water tentacle and began the journey of figuring out how to do it “because it’d be cool.”
-Dennis Muren did the CG Water Tentacle stuff in The Abyss… it took them 9 months to do 16 shots.
-Although Cameron does rigorous storyboarding for action scenes (for safety reason first and foremost, he said), he doesn’t like to storyboard scenes for actors, preferring to block on the day with the actors giving their input. He said if you’re not willing, as a director, to look beyond the storyboards and seek out that spontaneity then you’ll miss the magic filmmaking can capture.
-Titanic originated because he wanted an excuse to dive the wreckage.
-Cameron went into Fox and pitched “Romeo & Juliet on the Titanic.” “That was it, I had a deal.”
-Was Titanic a bigger project than he thought it was going to be? “They always are. It’s like a woman thinking about having another child. If she really had a clear memory of exactly what happened last time she wouldn’t do it.”
-Regarding his famous temperament Cameron said he learned on Titanic that the studio looks to the director and the producer for clues on how screwed they are. “Leadership works in both directions, both down the chain and up.” He said particularly on Avatar the studio didn’t understand the process and he had to keep his cool to calm their nervousness.
-“I’m the King of World” line is something they came up with on the day. Cameron was in a crane basket on a long lens talking to Leo via walkie-talkie. The set was next to the Pacific, but locked down, so Cameron had to give the illusion of movement with the camera. He wanted this moment to be big, so he had DiCaprio do a few things… howl like a wolf, etc… Cameron suggested “I’m the King of the World!” and DiCaprio was like “What?” “But he sold it. I didn’t sell it.”
-Further talking about the illusion of filmmaking, Cameron commented that the actors are tasked with protecting that illusion. “Sigourney made the Alien Queen live because of the way she treated it as this thing that really seemed to be there, as her nemesis.”
-IMAX has pulled in $250 million in only 261 theaters on Avatar.
-Cameron’s Avatar research: animals, ecosystems, Colonial Period, the interactions between the natives and the first settlers, the American West and the Conquest of Spain. “But at a certain point you have to abandon the research and tell a story.”

-He first knocked out the story in 2-3 weeks in 1995, writing a 100 page template. Cameron did Titanic, but didn’t think the CG was there for Avatar, so he waited.
-It took 4 ½ years to do Avatar “soup to nuts.” The first 2 years were design and technical development, no actors. The facial performance capture was the toughest technical hurdle to cross. April ’07 began a year’s worth of production including performance capture in Playa Vista, then 4 months of live action photography in Wellington, NZ. Then 1 ½ of post production.
-Cameron joked that he wanted all the “hater bloggers” who kind of disappeared after Avatar became the highest grossing film of all time to come out and admit they were wrong.
-After the laughs from that he was asked “What does Avatar’s success mean to you?” Cameron said that ultimately the most satisfying part of it is to know that he’s communicating with an audience, that people are connecting emotionally with the movie.
-Cameron hopes the environmental message will help in places where it’s needed the most, pointing to its success in China. “I don’t delude myself that an entertainment film is going to change the world, but I do think what an entertainment film can do is associate an emotional response, a sense of outrage at the destruction of nature, with information you already have.”
-His favorite scene in Avatar is the Jake/Neytiri learning to fly/bonding montage. The one where Jake’s voiceover says “I may not be much of a horse guy, but I was born to do this.”

That was the chat. Hope you enjoyed reading along and scoping out some of those pics! Tomorrow’s my final day at SBIFF, but I should be hitting the director’s panel and watching Kirk Douglas’ 1975 film POSSE hosted by Quentin Tarantino and featuring a Q&A between Tarantino and Kirk Douglas himself. It’s gonna be a good day.
I’ll write it all up when I can!
-Quint
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Reader Talkback
FIRST by ObnoxiousCamper | Feb 7th, 2010 04:35:09 AM | Very cool by jsscript2007 | Feb 7th, 2010 04:35:37 AM | by ObnoxiousCamper | Feb 7th, 2010 04:36:22 AM | Bloggers? by gotilk | Feb 7th, 2010 04:40:12 AM | Ahhhhhhhh... the satisfaction.
2.1 billion and counting by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYan
ks | Feb 7th, 2010 04:46:37 AM | Rule #1 of this talkback:
Defend the film on it's
merits. by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 04:51:48 AM | Imbecile: one who compares
Avatar to video game CG by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYan
ks | Feb 7th, 2010 05:08:10 AM | Movie Snobs by armtv | Feb 7th, 2010 05:11:59 AM | RE: Where the haters came
from.... by The Tao of Joe | Feb 7th, 2010 05:31:19 AM | Disapeared. by Thall_Joben | Feb 7th, 2010 05:39:38 AM | Battle Beyond the Stars Comic
Book by tronprogram | Feb 7th, 2010 05:44:31 AM | by Son of the Suns | Feb 7th, 2010 05:53:40 AM | Takes a whole other breed of
male... by Flummage | Feb 7th, 2010 05:58:18 AM | RE: Industry Killer by The Tao of Joe | Feb 7th, 2010 06:05:23 AM | Avatar... by Toilet_Terror | Feb 7th, 2010 06:17:53 AM | The Tao of Joe by Son of the Suns | Feb 7th, 2010 06:18:32 AM | Cameron looks like a Mushroom
with a human face by Toilet_Terror | Feb 7th, 2010 06:20:19 AM | Nice interview by Tomarru | Feb 7th, 2010 06:21:29 AM | Avatar Rocked by Cadderly99 | Feb 7th, 2010 06:31:09 AM | The best scene in Avatar.? by workshed | Feb 7th, 2010 06:58:24 AM | And for those that say
Cameron's script isn't
ambitious... by workshed | Feb 7th, 2010 07:05:02 AM | DAMMIT! Double standard! by eyeofthefrozen | Feb 7th, 2010 07:17:24 AM | It sucked by Thall_Joben | Feb 7th, 2010 07:25:56 AM | highest grossing film or
not... by vezner2007 | Feb 7th, 2010 07:26:43 AM | What are ARNOLD & JIM up to? by ABking | Feb 7th, 2010 07:34:04 AM | I hope Kirk Douglas tells
Tarantino to shut up. by RedEgiraahgnal | Feb 7th, 2010 07:37:37 AM | Darn. Was hoping he would
announce Battle Angel would be
next. by future help | Feb 7th, 2010 07:39:40 AM | Avatar is fucking incredible by kwisatzhaderach | Feb 7th, 2010 07:48:30 AM | BATTLE ANGEL is dead...can
AICN confirm? by ABking | Feb 7th, 2010 07:58:36 AM | Congratulations, Tao... you
got them all in there. by ScaryWaitress | Feb 7th, 2010 07:58:45 AM | The haters may be gone. The
skeptics remain. by ScaryWaitress | Feb 7th, 2010 07:59:48 AM | How many of you would want a
Cameron CRUSADE? by ABking | Feb 7th, 2010 08:00:04 AM | Cameron is in the same boat as
the GOP in Congress... by ScaryWaitress | Feb 7th, 2010 08:02:11 AM | ScaryWaitress by kwisatzhaderach | Feb 7th, 2010 08:05:21 AM | by ScaryWaitress | Feb 7th, 2010 08:06:04 AM | As much as I loved Avatar by kwisatzhaderach | Feb 7th, 2010 08:07:06 AM | Kwizzy... that's not much of a
choice. by ScaryWaitress | Feb 7th, 2010 08:07:56 AM | Wordage? Umm... by ScaryWaitress | Feb 7th, 2010 08:09:22 AM | Best Defense for Avatar : It's
not what you tell by PTSDPete | Feb 7th, 2010 08:10:26 AM | ScaryWaitress by kwisatzhaderach | Feb 7th, 2010 08:13:06 AM | PTSDPete... now THAT take, I
can respect. by ScaryWaitress | Feb 7th, 2010 08:13:27 AM | Well, Wordage, I think I just
clarified my point. by ScaryWaitress | Feb 7th, 2010 08:14:32 AM | Re: Industry killer by The Ringwraith | Feb 7th, 2010 08:14:45 AM | What to do next??? --HOLY
COW!!! --Direct THE
AVENGERS!!! by JDanielP | Feb 7th, 2010 08:15:05 AM | Kwizzy: he has GREAT IDEAS. by ScaryWaitress | Feb 7th, 2010 08:18:16 AM | Wordage... you first. by ScaryWaitress | Feb 7th, 2010 08:20:39 AM | I also agree with PTSDPete by The Ringwraith | Feb 7th, 2010 08:21:20 AM | All this being said, Cameron
deserves Best Director by ScaryWaitress | Feb 7th, 2010 08:28:20 AM | A word to the wise, Wordage... by ScaryWaitress | Feb 7th, 2010 08:29:27 AM | I want to see Cameron and
Speilberg team up. by ScaryWaitress | Feb 7th, 2010 08:30:18 AM | I want to see Cameron grow a
goatee by BendersShinyAss | Feb 7th, 2010 08:31:03 AM | Watching the Spirits With In
right now by TheJudger | Feb 7th, 2010 08:35:24 AM | Legs? Check. Armpits? Check. by ScaryWaitress | Feb 7th, 2010 08:35:47 AM | RE: Ringwrait by The Tao of Joe | Feb 7th, 2010 08:36:00 AM | Oh and God Bless IR cameras by TheJudger | Feb 7th, 2010 08:38:52 AM | The biggest problem with
Avatar is that Jake Sully is a
douche w by Walterego | Feb 7th, 2010 08:42:57 AM | Of all people, a Waitress
should know better by jsscript2007 | Feb 7th, 2010 08:47:48 AM | People saying Avatar is too
simple... by BendersShinyAss | Feb 7th, 2010 08:47:57 AM | Re: Tao by The Ringwraith | Feb 7th, 2010 08:50:38 AM | jsscript2007... not good
enough. by ScaryWaitress | Feb 7th, 2010 08:55:32 AM | "you hater-fuckers have got
nothing" by Son of the Suns | Feb 7th, 2010 09:00:27 AM | son of suns by BendersShinyAss | Feb 7th, 2010 09:15:15 AM | LOL! This guy is truly a cunt by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 09:22:33 AM | Bender... or should I call you
ShinyAss... by ScaryWaitress | Feb 7th, 2010 09:34:01 AM | Lots of peope complain by Human_Bean_Juice_ | Feb 7th, 2010 09:37:40 AM | BendersShinyAss by Son of the Suns | Feb 7th, 2010 09:44:42 AM | More two cents... by Johnny Ahab | Feb 7th, 2010 09:46:05 AM | Christopher Nolan's 'The Dark
Knight' by PTSDPete | Feb 7th, 2010 09:49:47 AM | IT'S STILL DANCES WITH
THUNDERSMURFS, THE MONEY MEANS
NOTHING... by TehCreepyThinMan | Feb 7th, 2010 10:07:13 AM | I loved Avatar. by blackwood | Feb 7th, 2010 10:08:29 AM | And thus George Lucas is pwned by WhoDis | Feb 7th, 2010 10:17:30 AM | A good question to ask J.C.
would be by WhoDis | Feb 7th, 2010 10:23:56 AM | industry killer by dagwood | Feb 7th, 2010 10:25:31 AM | Not defending Lucas at all,
WhoDis, but what was
spontaneous by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 10:26:33 AM | by dagwood | Feb 7th, 2010 10:26:56 AM | Nolan's vision (or lack of)
added to TDK's believability. by JDanielP | Feb 7th, 2010 10:28:23 AM | blackwood by WhoDis | Feb 7th, 2010 10:44:33 AM | YackBacker by WhoDis | Feb 7th, 2010 10:47:54 AM | Flummage:
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH... by FlickaPoo | Feb 7th, 2010 10:56:51 AM | Avatar was trash.. by Doc_Hudson | Feb 7th, 2010 11:14:23 AM | Avatar was the greatest tech
demo i've ever seen. by Bishop99999999 | Feb 7th, 2010 11:15:16 AM | ...this AAAVIDAH back and
forth is tedious. What's
really... by FlickaPoo | Feb 7th, 2010 11:17:35 AM | WhoDis, you don't need to be
on set to answer my question by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 11:18:53 AM | "squander our prick juice
willy-nilly" Flicka!!!! by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 11:20:36 AM | ...why, thank you Yack... by FlickaPoo | Feb 7th, 2010 11:24:55 AM | ...I believe the hardest I've
laughed in the past... by FlickaPoo | Feb 7th, 2010 11:29:00 AM | You're definitely bringing it,
old boy by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 11:30:47 AM | Stefania! by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 11:31:18 AM | ...my comment wasn't aimed at
you or anyone in... by FlickaPoo | Feb 7th, 2010 11:37:34 AM | No worries, Flick by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 11:40:08 AM | Avatar was almost as good as
'Phantom Menace'! by SmokingRobot | Feb 7th, 2010 11:40:20 AM | Talkbackers by edslostepisode | Feb 7th, 2010 11:42:58 AM | ...oh, who am I kidding. I'm
not above the fray... by FlickaPoo | Feb 7th, 2010 11:53:54 AM | Kirk Douglas FTW by Gungan Slayer | Feb 7th, 2010 11:57:05 AM | Avatar by There_will_be_Dickblood | Feb 7th, 2010 11:57:15 AM | I really want to see Cameron by jdhasson | Feb 7th, 2010 12:00:07 PM | AVATAR is STAR WARS (in a good
way) by Adelai Niska | Feb 7th, 2010 12:04:39 PM | Cam is god by Six Demon Bag | Feb 7th, 2010 12:10:13 PM | edslostepisode, what
movies/books have you written? by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 12:17:03 PM | Flick by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 12:30:57 PM | the amazing aliens rap by tsnatch | Feb 7th, 2010 12:32:55 PM | GET A HAIRCUT, DAMN HIPPIE
JAMES CAMERON by HaterofCrap | Feb 7th, 2010 12:34:29 PM | Well deserved Mr. Cameron! I
can't wait to see by RandomWordRandomWord | Feb 7th, 2010 12:39:05 PM | Fact by Six Demon Bag | Feb 7th, 2010 12:46:46 PM | ...can't argue with that
Yack... by FlickaPoo | Feb 7th, 2010 12:54:50 PM | THE MOVIE IS A HIT CUZ ITS 2
HRS OF PRETTY COLORS by HaterofCrap | Feb 7th, 2010 01:01:09 PM | Hehe by Cobbio | Feb 7th, 2010 01:04:32 PM | Flick, that's awesome about
your dad by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 01:08:59 PM | Re: HaterofCrap by Cobbio | Feb 7th, 2010 01:11:43 PM | Yack... your last paragraph
sums up my feelings nicely. by ScaryWaitress | Feb 7th, 2010 01:21:34 PM | Tao of Joe, a retort by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 01:23:08 PM | EssDub by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 01:26:53 PM | Adelai yous hould be shot for
that asinine assessment by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 01:32:14 PM | Re: Yackbacker by Cobbio | Feb 7th, 2010 01:32:22 PM | Cobbio, againt hsoe are red
herring arguments by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 01:40:18 PM | *those arguments by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 01:41:02 PM | Cobbio, the fact that one side
is all good and the other evil by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 01:51:34 PM | The masses ARE uneducated
plebs, for sure. by ScaryWaitress | Feb 7th, 2010 01:52:32 PM | Yack, that's actually not
entirely true... by ScaryWaitress | Feb 7th, 2010 01:54:59 PM | Small-Minded by Cobbio | Feb 7th, 2010 01:59:32 PM | You're right, EssDub by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 02:00:06 PM | So what? Batman 3 will end up
as highest grossing film ever by SlimButNotreally | Feb 7th, 2010 02:07:38 PM | Slim, imagine if JURASSIC PARK
was released in IMAX 3-D by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 02:09:20 PM | That's all ad hominem attacks
Cobbio by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 02:11:09 PM | The ultimate list of why
Avatar was crap by SlimButNotreally | Feb 7th, 2010 02:12:45 PM | Titanic and Avatar are night
and day Wordage by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 02:16:45 PM | So cartoon explosions =
masterful direction? by Toilet_Terror | Feb 7th, 2010 02:19:36 PM | Re: Yackbacker by Cobbio | Feb 7th, 2010 02:20:30 PM | The orange dragon is a symbol
of Neytiri's virginity by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 02:20:32 PM | Cobbio, go fuck yourself by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 02:22:22 PM | Okay by Cobbio | Feb 7th, 2010 02:22:32 PM | ...Yack, unlike most poeple
who disliked the movie... by FlickaPoo | Feb 7th, 2010 02:24:28 PM | Struck a Nerve by Cobbio | Feb 7th, 2010 02:24:40 PM | Wish he'd done Battle Angel
first by NippleEffect | Feb 7th, 2010 02:27:09 PM | Well that's what Im saying
Wordage by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 02:28:22 PM | Nah, Cobbio by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 02:31:23 PM | Thank you Flickapoo by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 02:31:54 PM | I on the other hand Cobbio... by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 02:34:35 PM | Thanks, Flick by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 02:35:18 PM | Re: Yackbacker by Cobbio | Feb 7th, 2010 02:36:42 PM | Christ Cobbio by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 02:38:20 PM | What will I write Cobbio? by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 02:39:11 PM | I'm more excited about Tommy
Wiseau as a filmmaker by Toilet_Terror | Feb 7th, 2010 02:44:37 PM | Schwarzenegger's jokes =
Extraordinarily Lame by Proman1984 | Feb 7th, 2010 02:47:03 PM | Proman, right on by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 02:48:37 PM | Re: by Cobbio | Feb 7th, 2010 02:51:34 PM | ...I know exactly what you
mean Yack... by FlickaPoo | Feb 7th, 2010 02:51:37 PM | The "Haters" were right about
Avatar by Trannyformers_Apologist | Feb 7th, 2010 02:52:10 PM | Re: by Cobbio | Feb 7th, 2010 02:56:56 PM | Nice Tranny, but even the
visuals are lacking by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 02:59:24 PM | Hmmm, I guess that would cover
it Cobbio by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 03:00:59 PM | Re: by Cobbio | Feb 7th, 2010 03:08:05 PM | What amazes me about this
whole thing... by ThaIllestEver_92 | Feb 7th, 2010 03:11:41 PM | JAMES CAMERON by KHjLL | Feb 7th, 2010 03:13:24 PM | ThaIllestEver_92, don't
misunderstand me by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 03:14:56 PM | CAMERON HATERS by KHjLL | Feb 7th, 2010 03:15:55 PM | His films aren't getting worse by Six Demon Bag | Feb 7th, 2010 03:18:31 PM | Flicka by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 03:20:23 PM | Yackbacker, I can't even diss
you for that assessment. by ThaIllestEver_92 | Feb 7th, 2010 03:22:38 PM | WESTERNS by KHjLL | Feb 7th, 2010 03:23:13 PM | Yeah by Cobbio | Feb 7th, 2010 03:24:17 PM | OPINIONS by KHjLL | Feb 7th, 2010 03:24:49 PM | So back to Avatar Cobbio by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 03:25:46 PM | FEELING ABOUT A FILM by KHjLL | Feb 7th, 2010 03:27:58 PM | Industry by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 03:29:26 PM | The Hater Manifesto: see
Trannyformers_Apologist. by ScaryWaitress | Feb 7th, 2010 03:29:37 PM | Replayed themes you apparently
can't argue Scarywaitress by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 03:32:40 PM | MYTH by KHjLL | Feb 7th, 2010 03:34:20 PM | KHjLL by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 03:35:41 PM | How is neytiri's first meetin
with Jake forced? by Six Demon Bag | Feb 7th, 2010 03:37:22 PM | KHjLL by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 03:38:04 PM | AVATAR 2 by KHjLL | Feb 7th, 2010 03:40:26 PM | Six Demon by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 03:41:47 PM | Industry... try scrolling up,
friend. by ScaryWaitress | Feb 7th, 2010 03:44:49 PM | AVATARS and the AMAZON by KHjLL | Feb 7th, 2010 03:48:39 PM | O by Six Demon Bag | Feb 7th, 2010 03:50:35 PM | Industry by Six Demon Bag | Feb 7th, 2010 03:52:10 PM | Re: Neytiri finding Jake by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 03:53:37 PM | KHjLL by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 03:54:36 PM | 80 to a 100 % by KHjLL | Feb 7th, 2010 03:57:18 PM | Well-stated, Industry by Cobbio | Feb 7th, 2010 03:59:38 PM | You want forced--here's a
doozy by Six Demon Bag | Feb 7th, 2010 04:00:05 PM | Six Demon and yack by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 04:01:07 PM | SEAQUEST and the TITANIC by KHjLL | Feb 7th, 2010 04:04:42 PM | those events are random in
Star Wars Six Demon by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 04:09:16 PM | KHJLL1098@yahoo.com by KHjLL | Feb 7th, 2010 04:09:23 PM | *aren't random by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 04:09:48 PM | STAR WARS and the SEVEN
SAMURAI by KHjLL | Feb 7th, 2010 04:11:36 PM | ...complaining about Jake and
Neytiri meeting in... by FlickaPoo | Feb 7th, 2010 04:13:42 PM | But she didn't stumble upon
him when he was by Six Demon Bag | Feb 7th, 2010 04:14:00 PM | Industry, not to beat a dead
horse, but... by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 04:16:16 PM | FUCKING AWESOME !!! by ominus | Feb 7th, 2010 04:17:04 PM | PRICELESS by ominus | Feb 7th, 2010 04:20:37 PM | ominus, my man by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 04:22:33 PM | Yack, it's weak because by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 04:23:21 PM | Well, now you'e getting into
the good stuff, Industry by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 04:31:41 PM | Yack imagine if... by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 04:33:05 PM | Hahaha, great point Yack by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 04:34:42 PM | Be good, Industry by YackBacker | Feb 7th, 2010 04:37:06 PM | ALITA I WANT ALITA by borisdoris | Feb 7th, 2010 04:46:37 PM | No has mentioned True Lies by CGIh8r | Feb 7th, 2010 04:46:49 PM | ...Yack, you almost had me
there... by FlickaPoo | Feb 7th, 2010 04:48:44 PM | HAve to say by borisdoris | Feb 7th, 2010 04:51:08 PM | Flick! Awesome! I'm going to
use "cradling the Jake" by white_vader | Feb 7th, 2010 04:51:22 PM | Aboot HATERS i think.... by KHjLL | Feb 7th, 2010 04:51:39 PM | PEOPLE opinions... by KHjLL | Feb 7th, 2010 04:52:31 PM | ? by borisdoris | Feb 7th, 2010 04:53:29 PM | Not Random by Cobbio | Feb 7th, 2010 04:54:37 PM | ...↑Cobbio, good one. Eywa
is a very Miyazaki... by FlickaPoo | Feb 7th, 2010 05:01:41 PM | ...white_vader, please do...it
would be my honor... by FlickaPoo | Feb 7th, 2010 05:03:39 PM | Whodis by white_vader | Feb 7th, 2010 05:04:42 PM | ...white_vader, you're a
storyboard artist? by FlickaPoo | Feb 7th, 2010 05:07:49 PM | Sorry, P.S. Whodis by white_vader | Feb 7th, 2010 05:08:06 PM | Flick by white_vader | Feb 7th, 2010 05:10:19 PM | Re: by Cobbio | Feb 7th, 2010 05:11:26 PM | ...white_vader... by FlickaPoo | Feb 7th, 2010 05:14:54 PM | Industry by Six Demon Bag | Feb 7th, 2010 05:18:03 PM | ...I'm taking SAMURAI JACK as
my road-map... by FlickaPoo | Feb 7th, 2010 05:18:08 PM | HATing a LINE... by KHjLL | Feb 7th, 2010 05:27:34 PM | Not true at all Six Demon by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 05:32:46 PM | Cool Flick by white_vader | Feb 7th, 2010 05:33:04 PM | Flicka - professional question by blackwood | Feb 7th, 2010 05:34:38 PM | Yack, I so WISH the jellyfish
thing had said 'Bitch, be
cool"! by white_vader | Feb 7th, 2010 05:37:26 PM | ...white_V, I'm 100%
traditional... by FlickaPoo | Feb 7th, 2010 05:42:44 PM | ...my big strategy is to run
in the opposite direction... by FlickaPoo | Feb 7th, 2010 05:47:12 PM | IndustryKiller by TheMandrakeRoot | Feb 7th, 2010 05:50:56 PM | ...I shouldn't have said "just
scanned textures etc..."... by FlickaPoo | Feb 7th, 2010 05:51:27 PM | blackwood by The Goon | Feb 7th, 2010 05:56:07 PM | Flicka by blackwood | Feb 7th, 2010 05:56:34 PM | The Goon by blackwood | Feb 7th, 2010 06:00:38 PM | Mandrakeroot by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 06:03:07 PM | ...blackwood... by FlickaPoo | Feb 7th, 2010 06:05:55 PM | Flicka by blackwood | Feb 7th, 2010 06:12:17 PM | Intuos 4... by The Goon | Feb 7th, 2010 06:16:50 PM | Cheers Goon by blackwood | Feb 7th, 2010 06:19:34 PM | ...blackwood, as a freelancer,
I don't get to talk... by FlickaPoo | Feb 7th, 2010 06:20:06 PM | Main complaint... by The Goon | Feb 7th, 2010 06:25:52 PM | Flika, funnily enough by blackwood | Feb 7th, 2010 06:34:01 PM | Trannyformers by TheMandrakeRoot | Feb 7th, 2010 06:37:41 PM | Industry by Six Demon Bag | Feb 7th, 2010 06:38:51 PM | **FX driven action film by TheMandrakeRoot | Feb 7th, 2010 06:39:36 PM | Alot of hardcore Cameron fans
HATE Avatar by sansara07 | Feb 7th, 2010 06:40:08 PM | Six Demon Bag by TheMandrakeRoot | Feb 7th, 2010 06:41:54 PM | ...blackwood, my younger
brother is in a similar... by FlickaPoo | Feb 7th, 2010 06:44:03 PM | Six Demon what I'm saying is by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 06:47:50 PM | Cobbio you are right.And the
same thing by ominus | Feb 7th, 2010 06:57:17 PM | Sorry ominus, its not in the
film by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 07:04:49 PM | ... by TheMandrakeRoot | Feb 7th, 2010 07:10:30 PM | Mandrakeroot by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 07:20:56 PM | But not everything NEEDS to be
explained by Six Demon Bag | Feb 7th, 2010 07:51:49 PM | Mandrake---insightful by Six Demon Bag | Feb 7th, 2010 07:56:51 PM | At the very least, this movie
may make way for more 'hard
sf" fi by DocKealy | Feb 7th, 2010 07:58:33 PM | History Aint Written By HATERS by quantize | Feb 7th, 2010 08:05:53 PM | Who's talking shit about
Jersey Shore?? by Sicuv Uyall | Feb 7th, 2010 08:15:53 PM | Haters got it easy by Six Demon Bag | Feb 7th, 2010 08:20:38 PM | Actually, it sort of is
quantize by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 09:13:00 PM | Haters come out and admit they
were wrong? by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave | Feb 7th, 2010 09:17:30 PM | YACK BACKER by KHjLL | Feb 7th, 2010 09:26:24 PM | sansara07 by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave | Feb 7th, 2010 09:32:30 PM | HATERS by KHjLL | Feb 7th, 2010 09:33:52 PM | MandrakeRoot by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave | Feb 7th, 2010 09:37:35 PM | Jeez by Cobbio | Feb 7th, 2010 09:57:45 PM | Of course those reasons are
"too extraneous" Turd by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 10:01:35 PM | Cobbio one of your last posts
was titled by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 10:05:58 PM | Really, 'Industry Killer',
you're going to shut me down? by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave | Feb 7th, 2010 10:18:56 PM | That's what I thought, Turd by IndustryKiller! | Feb 7th, 2010 10:50:49 PM | Re: by Cobbio | Feb 7th, 2010 11:16:24 PM | Wait... by Cobbio | Feb 7th, 2010 11:28:50 PM | Great Article! by Count3d | Feb 7th, 2010 11:50:20 PM | Cobbio has written the
funniest thing I've read all
year: by YackBacker | Feb 8th, 2010 12:09:50 AM | Cameron is my Hero by Autodidact | Feb 8th, 2010 12:20:19 AM | After reading that,.. by EdRyder | Feb 8th, 2010 01:10:59 AM | People are still arguing over
AVATAR?! by Mr. Nice Gaius | Feb 8th, 2010 01:12:12 AM | I take you back on a journey
through time . . by ol' painless | Feb 8th, 2010 01:22:29 AM | Thanks a lot, Quint. That was
interesting! by Motoko Kusanagi | Feb 8th, 2010 01:26:55 AM | To Industry Killer... by kisskissbangbang | Feb 8th, 2010 01:52:11 AM | Quint, was this recorded for
TV? by damn_dirty_ape | Feb 8th, 2010 01:52:56 AM | ScaryWaitress by damn_dirty_ape | Feb 8th, 2010 01:56:15 AM | Motoko... by kisskissbangbang | Feb 8th, 2010 01:59:57 AM | Yackbacker by white_vader | Feb 8th, 2010 02:13:20 AM | Flicka... by kisskissbangbang | Feb 8th, 2010 02:13:51 AM | Blackwood, Flick by white_vader | Feb 8th, 2010 02:39:50 AM | Joyce is amazing KissKiss by white_vader | Feb 8th, 2010 02:42:13 AM | white_vader... by kisskissbangbang | Feb 8th, 2010 02:59:20 AM | This talkback is pure comedy by BendersShinyAss | Feb 8th, 2010 03:04:23 AM | Hate-bloggers? by fatjesuschrysler | Feb 8th, 2010 03:30:12 AM | KissKissBangBang and
BendersShinyass by IndustryKiller! | Feb 8th, 2010 03:58:58 AM | Or specific AICN talkbackers? by fatjesuschrysler | Feb 8th, 2010 04:04:50 AM | And benders, the amount of
money it's made is meaningless by IndustryKiller! | Feb 8th, 2010 04:09:45 AM | So Cobbio, enlighten me as to
anything I've missed by IndustryKiller! | Feb 8th, 2010 04:21:33 AM | Well i loved it by BendersShinyAss | Feb 8th, 2010 04:28:19 AM | The Only Valid Criticism of
Avatar That I've Heard... by LaserPants | Feb 8th, 2010 04:53:21 AM | Re: Industry Killer!!!! by The Ringwraith | Feb 8th, 2010 04:54:07 AM | The Only Valid Criticism of
Avatar That I've Heard... by LaserPants | Feb 8th, 2010 04:57:03 AM | ScaryWaitress by Ace of Wands | Feb 8th, 2010 04:58:36 AM | The Conception Of EYWA Is
Great by LaserPants | Feb 8th, 2010 05:00:25 AM | Ringwraith by IndustryKiller! | Feb 8th, 2010 05:23:03 AM | Jesus, IndustryKiller by Norm Cascade | Feb 8th, 2010 06:31:59 AM | AVATAR's story SUCKS by DioxholsterReturns | Feb 8th, 2010 06:34:58 AM | Yo JC --- STARGATE UNIVERSE is
better than AVATAR!!!! by DioxholsterReturns | Feb 8th, 2010 06:51:21 AM | STAR WARS Means More To Me,
But... by LaserPants | Feb 8th, 2010 07:02:05 AM | IndustryKiller talked nothing
but sense all day. by Toilet_Terror | Feb 8th, 2010 07:05:12 AM | Why Avatar is GREAT!! by BendersShinyAss | Feb 8th, 2010 07:06:24 AM | The simplistic notion of
"haters..." by kells | Feb 8th, 2010 07:13:22 AM | couple of freudian slips in my
post by BendersShinyAss | Feb 8th, 2010 07:17:06 AM | ...don't worry Bender. I love
sex legged creatures too... by FlickaPoo | Feb 8th, 2010 07:23:37 AM | Kisskiss, now I'm confused! by white_vader | Feb 8th, 2010 07:32:34 AM | ...KKBB! We've been worried
about you... by FlickaPoo | Feb 8th, 2010 07:38:05 AM | Sex legged creatures make me
want to by white_vader | Feb 8th, 2010 07:40:14 AM | ...hehe...morning white_V. by FlickaPoo | Feb 8th, 2010 07:50:28 AM | Re: Industry killer by The Ringwraith | Feb 8th, 2010 08:18:18 AM | And can someone please
explain... by The Ringwraith | Feb 8th, 2010 08:24:52 AM | Add minus the slashes by Toilet_Terror | Feb 8th, 2010 08:28:15 AM | Well shit. Let me try that
again. by Toilet_Terror | Feb 8th, 2010 08:29:25 AM | Holy fuck. by Toilet_Terror | Feb 8th, 2010 08:31:21 AM | ... Ringwraith. < P > but no
spaces around the P. by FlickaPoo | Feb 8th, 2010 08:37:53 AM | Testing by The Ringwraith | Feb 8th, 2010 09:43:51 AM | Thanks Flicka! by The Ringwraith | Feb 8th, 2010 09:44:42 AM | white vader by YackBacker | Feb 8th, 2010 09:49:55 AM | white_vader, what I meant... by kisskissbangbang | Feb 8th, 2010 09:52:57 AM | Oh there goes
IndustryKiller.... by D.Vader | Feb 8th, 2010 10:03:13 AM | And as for Flicka... by kisskissbangbang | Feb 8th, 2010 10:13:24 AM | ...holding our breath
BangBang... by FlickaPoo | Feb 8th, 2010 11:11:32 AM | Heh, you know me D. Vader :),
Ringraith.... by IndustryKiller! | Feb 8th, 2010 12:50:49 PM | Hey haterS : CAMERON FUCKED
YOU IN THE ARSE ARESHOLES ! by theplant | Feb 8th, 2010 12:57:58 PM | good grief by lopan | Feb 8th, 2010 01:32:00 PM | This is a joke right by theplant | Feb 8th, 2010 01:37:15 PM | theplant by The Ringwraith | Feb 8th, 2010 02:40:43 PM | lol by xalener | Feb 8th, 2010 02:42:22 PM | @theplant by lopan | Feb 8th, 2010 03:21:55 PM | Industry Killer, why would I
even waste my time by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave | Feb 8th, 2010 05:01:05 PM | Yeah Yack I've got no time by white_vader | Feb 8th, 2010 05:30:06 PM | Kisskiss I gotcha now. by white_vader | Feb 8th, 2010 05:34:54 PM | No offense taken Turd by IndustryKiller! | Feb 8th, 2010 06:52:52 PM | Wow, does that paragraph trick
really work? by CountryBoy | Feb 8th, 2010 07:28:33 PM | Cool... by CountryBoy | Feb 8th, 2010 07:33:13 PM | Industry killer: by BendersShinyAss | Feb 8th, 2010 10:03:20 PM | Australian accent will show
through?! by white_vader | Feb 8th, 2010 10:54:48 PM | white_vader by Ace of Wands | Feb 9th, 2010 04:42:33 AM | Oh fuck me! by white_vader | Feb 9th, 2010 06:15:20 AM | Like the majority of people, I
love Avatar! by arjaybee | Feb 9th, 2010 07:15:17 AM | Best scene in the film... by REVENGE_of_FETT | Feb 9th, 2010 09:42:38 AM | I really enjoyed that part too
Fett by D.Vader | Feb 9th, 2010 11:04:27 AM | My last apology was for the
"professionals" out there by white_vader | Feb 9th, 2010 04:35:23 PM | Flicka, if you're around... by kisskissbangbang | Feb 10th, 2010 01:09:09 AM | Walterego by tradeskilz | Feb 10th, 2010 11:58:03 AM | arjaybee speaks the
truth.listen to him. by ominus | Feb 11th, 2010 06:19:16 AM | for me my favourite scene,for
some strange reason, by ominus | Feb 11th, 2010 06:30:04 AM |
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