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Quint saw the SBIFF Tribute to James Cameron! He talks AVATAR, TERMINATOR, ALIENS, Roger Corman, sneaking into USC & much more!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with a rundown of tonight’s big James Cameron event at the 25th Santa Barbara International Film Festival. He received the Modern Master award from the festival tonight, presented by the Governor himself, Arnold Schwarzenegger.

This isn’t the first time I’ve seen Cameron get an award at SBIFF. He was given one for his documentary work in the heyday of his underwater exploration films and it was at that time that I sat down with him and did one of my favorite chats with one of my favorite directors. You can read that now 4 year old interview here. Ah, the old Dirty Joke final question days…

I’m hoping that Copernicus gets some sit down time with Cameron this time out. If you read his Science of Avatar story you’ll know why he’s much more up to the task at quizzing the man than I am.

Anyway, it’s late and I don’t want to bore you with all this crap. Let’s get into the event, which I’ll hit in bullet points as I feature Kraken’s photography.

Leonard Maltin hosted the Q&A and when Cameron was called up on stage he immediately went into his speech because of a miscommunication about when he was actually getting the award. They paused the speech after about 5 minutes and started the Q&A only to stop it again when Arnold showed up to present the award. You’ll see that represented below, but I wanted to give an idea of how loose the night was.



-When asked about filmic influences, Cameron went back to the Harryhausen films… specifically name-checking Jason and the Argonauts, The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad, Mysterious Island and 20 Million Miles to Earth. He said it was dreamlike to him because he had no idea what Stop Motion was. He also had a steady diet of Science-Fiction and comic books.

-Wizard of Oz is his favorite movie and he loves it because of the combination of beauty and terror that exist in that world. He told his design team on Avatar that he wanted to “scare the crap out of people, but I also want it to be beautiful.”

-As a kid Cameron didn’t know if was going to draw or write. He drew a lot of his own comics as a kid. He had a “narrative impulse” and a “visual impulse” that he didn’t realize he could actually combine by becoming a filmmaker until he was in his 20s.

-His first paying job was on Roger Corman’s (great) Battle Beyond the Stars. He was hired originally as a model builder, but he became the art director almost immediately. It was a trial by fire. “We knew just enough to be dangerous, but not enough to know we shouldn’t even be trying what we were doing.”

-Said he was a better artist and a better filmmaker than a leader at the start.

-“You have to create your own luck” is a lesson he learned on the Corman films. Not in a nefarious way, but that you have to be persistent and prepared for when opportunity comes. “No fate but what we make” from the Terminator films comes from this philosophy.



-When he was a truck driver, he’d drive all week, but on Saturdays he’d go down to USC (he was not a student there, mind you) and go into the stacks and Xeroxed copies of American Cinematographer to thesis done on optical printing or break downs of film stocks and he brought all that back home and organized it binders, studying them.

-First break was when he was allowed to do 2nd unit directing on another Roger Corman film (he didn’t mention the title, but it’s probably the extremely twisted Galaxy of Terror). As an effects guy and production designer he convinced Corman that the director wasn’t getting enough coverage of the effects, so he got the 2nd Unit director job at the expense of his production designer gig.

-The production was so over schedule that he got to direct a lot with the actors. The production essentially had two 1st Units running simultaneously. Even though he was petrified at working with actors they all started requesting to be put into his unit because they liked him better.

-Piranha 2: The Spawning. Cameron was hired to direct, flew to Rome, completed a couple of weeks of preproduction, flew to Jamaica and shot for 4 days before being replaced by the Italian producer, notorious for taking over his films. “It ended up being good for me because the film turned out to be a stinker.”

-They then showed the Power Suit vs. Alien Queen scene from ALIENS… it was really kinda cool to watch Cameron watching his own movies, especially for one of his best. He said afterwards that this is probably what “Hell for directors is… watching your movies on an endless loop at 180db.”

-Cameron commented on the fight, that pre-CG the executed it with a Bunraku Japanese puppet style miniature effects and real life-sized puppets created by Stan Winston. There were two guys, sitting side by side inside the life-sized puppet, each one operating one big arm and one small arm. The Alien Queen was designed around the two-man rig. He then demonstrated the arm-waving.



-Cameron pointed out the shot where you can see Lance Henriksen’s body as he reaches for Newt, the half-body lifting up off the ground revealing his torso. “It’s an interesting lesson in how we perceive film. Nobody is looking there, they’re looking at where his hand is. ‘Will he be able to catch her?’” Cameron himself didn’t notice it until the premiere.

-T2 was kicking around for a while. Schwarzenegger wanted to do one and when Cameron talked to Linda Hamilton, who he refused to do the movie without, she gave him the idea that Sarah Connor would be crazy, mentally torn apart with the foreknowledge of the murder of 6 billion people. He wrote from there.

-After the clip from T2 (the drainage canal chase), the T-800 himself, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger came out to present Cameron the award.



-Schwarzenegger came out like a stand-up comic, saying he’s there to celebrate a great immigrant story, a man who came to Hollywood and made billions of dollars, became admired by millions of people… but “that’s enough talking about myself. I got carried away! Sorry about that!”

-Another Governator zinger: “His movies have made billions and billions of dollars world-wide. As a matter of fact, he made so much money that all of this money together could have wiped out the State’s budget deficit!”

-Schwarzenegger said “Avatar” a few times and every single time it came out like “Ahvadah.” He joked that Cameron intentionally chose that title because he knew it was impossible for Arnie to pronounce.



-Despite all the talk about Avatar 2 going forward, Cameron said he hasn’t decided what he’s going to do next.

-After sitting back down to continue the discussion, Cameron fawned over Schwarzenegger’s presence in the original Terminator saying he was known as being “the ultimate physical form” back then, but that in 90% of the movie he’s in biker leather, with the camera close on his face. What attracted Cameron to him for the part was Schwarzenegger’s ability to be as cold as ice, the opposite from his turn in Conan the Barbarian.

-Apparently Schwarzenegger loved going out to restaurants still in the Stan Winston make-up, with half of his face ripped off.

-There were 42 CG shots in Terminator 2, which forced a merge of computer effects and Stan Winston’s mechanical work. Compare that with Avatar, which was 2600 CG shots.



-The Abyss was Cameron’s most demanding shoot, physically. He’d literally go home and fall asleep with his fork still in his mouth.

-Originally the Water Tentacle was written as the aliens using water as a probe, but instead of a tentacle it was just “intelligent water” that spilled into the room on the floor. Although he had no idea how to pull it off, he changed it into a water tentacle and began the journey of figuring out how to do it “because it’d be cool.”

-Dennis Muren did the CG Water Tentacle stuff in The Abyss… it took them 9 months to do 16 shots.

-Although Cameron does rigorous storyboarding for action scenes (for safety reason first and foremost, he said), he doesn’t like to storyboard scenes for actors, preferring to block on the day with the actors giving their input. He said if you’re not willing, as a director, to look beyond the storyboards and seek out that spontaneity then you’ll miss the magic filmmaking can capture.

-Titanic originated because he wanted an excuse to dive the wreckage.

-Cameron went into Fox and pitched “Romeo & Juliet on the Titanic.” “That was it, I had a deal.”

-Was Titanic a bigger project than he thought it was going to be? “They always are. It’s like a woman thinking about having another child. If she really had a clear memory of exactly what happened last time she wouldn’t do it.”

-Regarding his famous temperament Cameron said he learned on Titanic that the studio looks to the director and the producer for clues on how screwed they are. “Leadership works in both directions, both down the chain and up.” He said particularly on Avatar the studio didn’t understand the process and he had to keep his cool to calm their nervousness.

-“I’m the King of World” line is something they came up with on the day. Cameron was in a crane basket on a long lens talking to Leo via walkie-talkie. The set was next to the Pacific, but locked down, so Cameron had to give the illusion of movement with the camera. He wanted this moment to be big, so he had DiCaprio do a few things… howl like a wolf, etc… Cameron suggested “I’m the King of the World!” and DiCaprio was like “What?” “But he sold it. I didn’t sell it.”

-Further talking about the illusion of filmmaking, Cameron commented that the actors are tasked with protecting that illusion. “Sigourney made the Alien Queen live because of the way she treated it as this thing that really seemed to be there, as her nemesis.”

-IMAX has pulled in $250 million in only 261 theaters on Avatar.

-Cameron’s Avatar research: animals, ecosystems, Colonial Period, the interactions between the natives and the first settlers, the American West and the Conquest of Spain. “But at a certain point you have to abandon the research and tell a story.”



-He first knocked out the story in 2-3 weeks in 1995, writing a 100 page template. Cameron did Titanic, but didn’t think the CG was there for Avatar, so he waited.

-It took 4 ½ years to do Avatar “soup to nuts.” The first 2 years were design and technical development, no actors. The facial performance capture was the toughest technical hurdle to cross. April ’07 began a year’s worth of production including performance capture in Playa Vista, then 4 months of live action photography in Wellington, NZ. Then 1 ½ of post production.

-Cameron joked that he wanted all the “hater bloggers” who kind of disappeared after Avatar became the highest grossing film of all time to come out and admit they were wrong.

-After the laughs from that he was asked “What does Avatar’s success mean to you?” Cameron said that ultimately the most satisfying part of it is to know that he’s communicating with an audience, that people are connecting emotionally with the movie.

-Cameron hopes the environmental message will help in places where it’s needed the most, pointing to its success in China. “I don’t delude myself that an entertainment film is going to change the world, but I do think what an entertainment film can do is associate an emotional response, a sense of outrage at the destruction of nature, with information you already have.”

-His favorite scene in Avatar is the Jake/Neytiri learning to fly/bonding montage. The one where Jake’s voiceover says “I may not be much of a horse guy, but I was born to do this.”



That was the chat. Hope you enjoyed reading along and scoping out some of those pics! Tomorrow’s my final day at SBIFF, but I should be hitting the director’s panel and watching Kirk Douglas’ 1975 film POSSE hosted by Quentin Tarantino and featuring a Q&A between Tarantino and Kirk Douglas himself. It’s gonna be a good day.

I’ll write it all up when I can!

-Quint
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FIRST
by ObnoxiousCamper
Feb 7th, 2010
04:35:09 AM
Very cool
by jsscript2007
Feb 7th, 2010
04:35:37 AM

by ObnoxiousCamper
Feb 7th, 2010
04:36:22 AM
Bloggers?
by gotilk
Feb 7th, 2010
04:40:12 AM
Ahhhhhhhh... the satisfaction. 2.1 billion and counting
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYan ks
Feb 7th, 2010
04:46:37 AM
Rule #1 of this talkback: Defend the film on it's merits.
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
04:51:48 AM
Imbecile: one who compares Avatar to video game CG
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYan ks
Feb 7th, 2010
05:08:10 AM
Movie Snobs
by armtv
Feb 7th, 2010
05:11:59 AM
RE: Where the haters came from....
by The Tao of Joe
Feb 7th, 2010
05:31:19 AM
Disapeared.
by Thall_Joben
Feb 7th, 2010
05:39:38 AM
Battle Beyond the Stars Comic Book
by tronprogram
Feb 7th, 2010
05:44:31 AM

by Son of the Suns
Feb 7th, 2010
05:53:40 AM
Takes a whole other breed of male...
by Flummage
Feb 7th, 2010
05:58:18 AM
RE: Industry Killer
by The Tao of Joe
Feb 7th, 2010
06:05:23 AM
Avatar...
by Toilet_Terror
Feb 7th, 2010
06:17:53 AM
The Tao of Joe
by Son of the Suns
Feb 7th, 2010
06:18:32 AM
Cameron looks like a Mushroom with a human face
by Toilet_Terror
Feb 7th, 2010
06:20:19 AM
Nice interview
by Tomarru
Feb 7th, 2010
06:21:29 AM
Avatar Rocked
by Cadderly99
Feb 7th, 2010
06:31:09 AM
The best scene in Avatar.?
by workshed
Feb 7th, 2010
06:58:24 AM
And for those that say Cameron's script isn't ambitious...
by workshed
Feb 7th, 2010
07:05:02 AM
DAMMIT! Double standard!
by eyeofthefrozen
Feb 7th, 2010
07:17:24 AM
It sucked
by Thall_Joben
Feb 7th, 2010
07:25:56 AM
highest grossing film or not...
by vezner2007
Feb 7th, 2010
07:26:43 AM
What are ARNOLD & JIM up to?
by ABking
Feb 7th, 2010
07:34:04 AM
I hope Kirk Douglas tells Tarantino to shut up.
by RedEgiraahgnal
Feb 7th, 2010
07:37:37 AM
Darn. Was hoping he would announce Battle Angel would be next.
by future help
Feb 7th, 2010
07:39:40 AM
Avatar is fucking incredible
by kwisatzhaderach
Feb 7th, 2010
07:48:30 AM
BATTLE ANGEL is dead...can AICN confirm?
by ABking
Feb 7th, 2010
07:58:36 AM
Congratulations, Tao... you got them all in there.
by ScaryWaitress
Feb 7th, 2010
07:58:45 AM
The haters may be gone. The skeptics remain.
by ScaryWaitress
Feb 7th, 2010
07:59:48 AM
How many of you would want a Cameron CRUSADE?
by ABking
Feb 7th, 2010
08:00:04 AM
Cameron is in the same boat as the GOP in Congress...
by ScaryWaitress
Feb 7th, 2010
08:02:11 AM
ScaryWaitress
by kwisatzhaderach
Feb 7th, 2010
08:05:21 AM

by ScaryWaitress
Feb 7th, 2010
08:06:04 AM
As much as I loved Avatar
by kwisatzhaderach
Feb 7th, 2010
08:07:06 AM
Kwizzy... that's not much of a choice.
by ScaryWaitress
Feb 7th, 2010
08:07:56 AM
Wordage? Umm...
by ScaryWaitress
Feb 7th, 2010
08:09:22 AM
Best Defense for Avatar : It's not what you tell
by PTSDPete
Feb 7th, 2010
08:10:26 AM
ScaryWaitress
by kwisatzhaderach
Feb 7th, 2010
08:13:06 AM
PTSDPete... now THAT take, I can respect.
by ScaryWaitress
Feb 7th, 2010
08:13:27 AM
Well, Wordage, I think I just clarified my point.
by ScaryWaitress
Feb 7th, 2010
08:14:32 AM
Re: Industry killer
by The Ringwraith
Feb 7th, 2010
08:14:45 AM
What to do next??? --HOLY COW!!! --Direct THE AVENGERS!!!
by JDanielP
Feb 7th, 2010
08:15:05 AM
Kwizzy: he has GREAT IDEAS.
by ScaryWaitress
Feb 7th, 2010
08:18:16 AM
Wordage... you first.
by ScaryWaitress
Feb 7th, 2010
08:20:39 AM
I also agree with PTSDPete
by The Ringwraith
Feb 7th, 2010
08:21:20 AM
All this being said, Cameron deserves Best Director
by ScaryWaitress
Feb 7th, 2010
08:28:20 AM
A word to the wise, Wordage...
by ScaryWaitress
Feb 7th, 2010
08:29:27 AM
I want to see Cameron and Speilberg team up.
by ScaryWaitress
Feb 7th, 2010
08:30:18 AM
I want to see Cameron grow a goatee
by BendersShinyAss
Feb 7th, 2010
08:31:03 AM
Watching the Spirits With In right now
by TheJudger
Feb 7th, 2010
08:35:24 AM
Legs? Check. Armpits? Check.
by ScaryWaitress
Feb 7th, 2010
08:35:47 AM
RE: Ringwrait
by The Tao of Joe
Feb 7th, 2010
08:36:00 AM
Oh and God Bless IR cameras
by TheJudger
Feb 7th, 2010
08:38:52 AM
The biggest problem with Avatar is that Jake Sully is a douche w
by Walterego
Feb 7th, 2010
08:42:57 AM
Of all people, a Waitress should know better
by jsscript2007
Feb 7th, 2010
08:47:48 AM
People saying Avatar is too simple...
by BendersShinyAss
Feb 7th, 2010
08:47:57 AM
Re: Tao
by The Ringwraith
Feb 7th, 2010
08:50:38 AM
jsscript2007... not good enough.
by ScaryWaitress
Feb 7th, 2010
08:55:32 AM
"you hater-fuckers have got nothing"
by Son of the Suns
Feb 7th, 2010
09:00:27 AM
son of suns
by BendersShinyAss
Feb 7th, 2010
09:15:15 AM
LOL! This guy is truly a cunt
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
09:22:33 AM
Bender... or should I call you ShinyAss...
by ScaryWaitress
Feb 7th, 2010
09:34:01 AM
Lots of peope complain
by Human_Bean_Juice_
Feb 7th, 2010
09:37:40 AM
BendersShinyAss
by Son of the Suns
Feb 7th, 2010
09:44:42 AM
More two cents...
by Johnny Ahab
Feb 7th, 2010
09:46:05 AM
Christopher Nolan's 'The Dark Knight'
by PTSDPete
Feb 7th, 2010
09:49:47 AM
IT'S STILL DANCES WITH THUNDERSMURFS, THE MONEY MEANS NOTHING...
by TehCreepyThinMan
Feb 7th, 2010
10:07:13 AM
I loved Avatar.
by blackwood
Feb 7th, 2010
10:08:29 AM
And thus George Lucas is pwned
by WhoDis
Feb 7th, 2010
10:17:30 AM
A good question to ask J.C. would be
by WhoDis
Feb 7th, 2010
10:23:56 AM
industry killer
by dagwood
Feb 7th, 2010
10:25:31 AM
Not defending Lucas at all, WhoDis, but what was spontaneous
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
10:26:33 AM

by dagwood
Feb 7th, 2010
10:26:56 AM
Nolan's vision (or lack of) added to TDK's believability.
by JDanielP
Feb 7th, 2010
10:28:23 AM
blackwood
by WhoDis
Feb 7th, 2010
10:44:33 AM
YackBacker
by WhoDis
Feb 7th, 2010
10:47:54 AM
Flummage: BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 7th, 2010
10:56:51 AM
Avatar was trash..
by Doc_Hudson
Feb 7th, 2010
11:14:23 AM
Avatar was the greatest tech demo i've ever seen.
by Bishop99999999
Feb 7th, 2010
11:15:16 AM
...this AAAVIDAH back and forth is tedious. What's really...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 7th, 2010
11:17:35 AM
WhoDis, you don't need to be on set to answer my question
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
11:18:53 AM
"squander our prick juice willy-nilly" Flicka!!!!
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
11:20:36 AM
...why, thank you Yack...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 7th, 2010
11:24:55 AM
...I believe the hardest I've laughed in the past...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 7th, 2010
11:29:00 AM
You're definitely bringing it, old boy
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
11:30:47 AM
Stefania!
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
11:31:18 AM
...my comment wasn't aimed at you or anyone in...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 7th, 2010
11:37:34 AM
No worries, Flick
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
11:40:08 AM
Avatar was almost as good as 'Phantom Menace'!
by SmokingRobot
Feb 7th, 2010
11:40:20 AM
Talkbackers
by edslostepisode
Feb 7th, 2010
11:42:58 AM
...oh, who am I kidding. I'm not above the fray...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 7th, 2010
11:53:54 AM
Kirk Douglas FTW
by Gungan Slayer
Feb 7th, 2010
11:57:05 AM
Avatar
by There_will_be_Dickblood
Feb 7th, 2010
11:57:15 AM
I really want to see Cameron
by jdhasson
Feb 7th, 2010
12:00:07 PM
AVATAR is STAR WARS (in a good way)
by Adelai Niska
Feb 7th, 2010
12:04:39 PM
Cam is god
by Six Demon Bag
Feb 7th, 2010
12:10:13 PM
edslostepisode, what movies/books have you written?
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
12:17:03 PM
Flick
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
12:30:57 PM
the amazing aliens rap
by tsnatch
Feb 7th, 2010
12:32:55 PM
GET A HAIRCUT, DAMN HIPPIE JAMES CAMERON
by HaterofCrap
Feb 7th, 2010
12:34:29 PM
Well deserved Mr. Cameron! I can't wait to see
by RandomWordRandomWord
Feb 7th, 2010
12:39:05 PM
Fact
by Six Demon Bag
Feb 7th, 2010
12:46:46 PM
...can't argue with that Yack...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 7th, 2010
12:54:50 PM
THE MOVIE IS A HIT CUZ ITS 2 HRS OF PRETTY COLORS
by HaterofCrap
Feb 7th, 2010
01:01:09 PM
Hehe
by Cobbio
Feb 7th, 2010
01:04:32 PM
Flick, that's awesome about your dad
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
01:08:59 PM
Re: HaterofCrap
by Cobbio
Feb 7th, 2010
01:11:43 PM
Yack... your last paragraph sums up my feelings nicely.
by ScaryWaitress
Feb 7th, 2010
01:21:34 PM
Tao of Joe, a retort
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
01:23:08 PM
EssDub
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
01:26:53 PM
Adelai yous hould be shot for that asinine assessment
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
01:32:14 PM
Re: Yackbacker
by Cobbio
Feb 7th, 2010
01:32:22 PM
Cobbio, againt hsoe are red herring arguments
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
01:40:18 PM
*those arguments
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
01:41:02 PM
Cobbio, the fact that one side is all good and the other evil
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
01:51:34 PM
The masses ARE uneducated plebs, for sure.
by ScaryWaitress
Feb 7th, 2010
01:52:32 PM
Yack, that's actually not entirely true...
by ScaryWaitress
Feb 7th, 2010
01:54:59 PM
Small-Minded
by Cobbio
Feb 7th, 2010
01:59:32 PM
You're right, EssDub
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
02:00:06 PM
So what? Batman 3 will end up as highest grossing film ever
by SlimButNotreally
Feb 7th, 2010
02:07:38 PM
Slim, imagine if JURASSIC PARK was released in IMAX 3-D
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
02:09:20 PM
That's all ad hominem attacks Cobbio
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
02:11:09 PM
The ultimate list of why Avatar was crap
by SlimButNotreally
Feb 7th, 2010
02:12:45 PM
Titanic and Avatar are night and day Wordage
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
02:16:45 PM
So cartoon explosions = masterful direction?
by Toilet_Terror
Feb 7th, 2010
02:19:36 PM
Re: Yackbacker
by Cobbio
Feb 7th, 2010
02:20:30 PM
The orange dragon is a symbol of Neytiri's virginity
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
02:20:32 PM
Cobbio, go fuck yourself
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
02:22:22 PM
Okay
by Cobbio
Feb 7th, 2010
02:22:32 PM
...Yack, unlike most poeple who disliked the movie...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 7th, 2010
02:24:28 PM
Struck a Nerve
by Cobbio
Feb 7th, 2010
02:24:40 PM
Wish he'd done Battle Angel first
by NippleEffect
Feb 7th, 2010
02:27:09 PM
Well that's what Im saying Wordage
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
02:28:22 PM
Nah, Cobbio
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
02:31:23 PM
Thank you Flickapoo
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
02:31:54 PM
I on the other hand Cobbio...
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
02:34:35 PM
Thanks, Flick
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
02:35:18 PM
Re: Yackbacker
by Cobbio
Feb 7th, 2010
02:36:42 PM
Christ Cobbio
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
02:38:20 PM
What will I write Cobbio?
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
02:39:11 PM
I'm more excited about Tommy Wiseau as a filmmaker
by Toilet_Terror
Feb 7th, 2010
02:44:37 PM
Schwarzenegger's jokes = Extraordinarily Lame
by Proman1984
Feb 7th, 2010
02:47:03 PM
Proman, right on
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
02:48:37 PM
Re:
by Cobbio
Feb 7th, 2010
02:51:34 PM
...I know exactly what you mean Yack...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 7th, 2010
02:51:37 PM
The "Haters" were right about Avatar
by Trannyformers_Apologist
Feb 7th, 2010
02:52:10 PM
Re:
by Cobbio
Feb 7th, 2010
02:56:56 PM
Nice Tranny, but even the visuals are lacking
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
02:59:24 PM
Hmmm, I guess that would cover it Cobbio
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
03:00:59 PM
Re:
by Cobbio
Feb 7th, 2010
03:08:05 PM
What amazes me about this whole thing...
by ThaIllestEver_92
Feb 7th, 2010
03:11:41 PM
JAMES CAMERON
by KHjLL
Feb 7th, 2010
03:13:24 PM
ThaIllestEver_92, don't misunderstand me
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
03:14:56 PM
CAMERON HATERS
by KHjLL
Feb 7th, 2010
03:15:55 PM
His films aren't getting worse
by Six Demon Bag
Feb 7th, 2010
03:18:31 PM
Flicka
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
03:20:23 PM
Yackbacker, I can't even diss you for that assessment.
by ThaIllestEver_92
Feb 7th, 2010
03:22:38 PM
WESTERNS
by KHjLL
Feb 7th, 2010
03:23:13 PM
Yeah
by Cobbio
Feb 7th, 2010
03:24:17 PM
OPINIONS
by KHjLL
Feb 7th, 2010
03:24:49 PM
So back to Avatar Cobbio
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
03:25:46 PM
FEELING ABOUT A FILM
by KHjLL
Feb 7th, 2010
03:27:58 PM
Industry
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
03:29:26 PM
The Hater Manifesto: see Trannyformers_Apologist.
by ScaryWaitress
Feb 7th, 2010
03:29:37 PM
Replayed themes you apparently can't argue Scarywaitress
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
03:32:40 PM
MYTH
by KHjLL
Feb 7th, 2010
03:34:20 PM
KHjLL
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
03:35:41 PM
How is neytiri's first meetin with Jake forced?
by Six Demon Bag
Feb 7th, 2010
03:37:22 PM
KHjLL
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
03:38:04 PM
AVATAR 2
by KHjLL
Feb 7th, 2010
03:40:26 PM
Six Demon
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
03:41:47 PM
Industry... try scrolling up, friend.
by ScaryWaitress
Feb 7th, 2010
03:44:49 PM
AVATARS and the AMAZON
by KHjLL
Feb 7th, 2010
03:48:39 PM
O
by Six Demon Bag
Feb 7th, 2010
03:50:35 PM
Industry
by Six Demon Bag
Feb 7th, 2010
03:52:10 PM
Re: Neytiri finding Jake
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
03:53:37 PM
KHjLL
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
03:54:36 PM
80 to a 100 %
by KHjLL
Feb 7th, 2010
03:57:18 PM
Well-stated, Industry
by Cobbio
Feb 7th, 2010
03:59:38 PM
You want forced--here's a doozy
by Six Demon Bag
Feb 7th, 2010
04:00:05 PM
Six Demon and yack
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
04:01:07 PM
SEAQUEST and the TITANIC
by KHjLL
Feb 7th, 2010
04:04:42 PM
those events are random in Star Wars Six Demon
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
04:09:16 PM
KHJLL1098@yahoo.com
by KHjLL
Feb 7th, 2010
04:09:23 PM
*aren't random
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
04:09:48 PM
STAR WARS and the SEVEN SAMURAI
by KHjLL
Feb 7th, 2010
04:11:36 PM
...complaining about Jake and Neytiri meeting in...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 7th, 2010
04:13:42 PM
But she didn't stumble upon him when he was
by Six Demon Bag
Feb 7th, 2010
04:14:00 PM
Industry, not to beat a dead horse, but...
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
04:16:16 PM
FUCKING AWESOME !!!
by ominus
Feb 7th, 2010
04:17:04 PM
PRICELESS
by ominus
Feb 7th, 2010
04:20:37 PM
ominus, my man
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
04:22:33 PM
Yack, it's weak because
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
04:23:21 PM
Well, now you'e getting into the good stuff, Industry
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
04:31:41 PM
Yack imagine if...
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
04:33:05 PM
Hahaha, great point Yack
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
04:34:42 PM
Be good, Industry
by YackBacker
Feb 7th, 2010
04:37:06 PM
ALITA I WANT ALITA
by borisdoris
Feb 7th, 2010
04:46:37 PM
No has mentioned True Lies
by CGIh8r
Feb 7th, 2010
04:46:49 PM
...Yack, you almost had me there...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 7th, 2010
04:48:44 PM
HAve to say
by borisdoris
Feb 7th, 2010
04:51:08 PM
Flick! Awesome! I'm going to use "cradling the Jake"
by white_vader
Feb 7th, 2010
04:51:22 PM
Aboot HATERS i think....
by KHjLL
Feb 7th, 2010
04:51:39 PM
PEOPLE opinions...
by KHjLL
Feb 7th, 2010
04:52:31 PM
?
by borisdoris
Feb 7th, 2010
04:53:29 PM
Not Random
by Cobbio
Feb 7th, 2010
04:54:37 PM
...↑Cobbio, good one. Eywa is a very Miyazaki...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 7th, 2010
05:01:41 PM
...white_vader, please do...it would be my honor...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 7th, 2010
05:03:39 PM
Whodis
by white_vader
Feb 7th, 2010
05:04:42 PM
...white_vader, you're a storyboard artist?
by FlickaPoo
Feb 7th, 2010
05:07:49 PM
Sorry, P.S. Whodis
by white_vader
Feb 7th, 2010
05:08:06 PM
Flick
by white_vader
Feb 7th, 2010
05:10:19 PM
Re:
by Cobbio
Feb 7th, 2010
05:11:26 PM
...white_vader...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 7th, 2010
05:14:54 PM
Industry
by Six Demon Bag
Feb 7th, 2010
05:18:03 PM
...I'm taking SAMURAI JACK as my road-map...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 7th, 2010
05:18:08 PM
HATing a LINE...
by KHjLL
Feb 7th, 2010
05:27:34 PM
Not true at all Six Demon
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
05:32:46 PM
Cool Flick
by white_vader
Feb 7th, 2010
05:33:04 PM
Flicka - professional question
by blackwood
Feb 7th, 2010
05:34:38 PM
Yack, I so WISH the jellyfish thing had said 'Bitch, be cool"!
by white_vader
Feb 7th, 2010
05:37:26 PM
...white_V, I'm 100% traditional...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 7th, 2010
05:42:44 PM
...my big strategy is to run in the opposite direction...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 7th, 2010
05:47:12 PM
IndustryKiller
by TheMandrakeRoot
Feb 7th, 2010
05:50:56 PM
...I shouldn't have said "just scanned textures etc..."...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 7th, 2010
05:51:27 PM
blackwood
by The Goon
Feb 7th, 2010
05:56:07 PM
Flicka
by blackwood
Feb 7th, 2010
05:56:34 PM
The Goon
by blackwood
Feb 7th, 2010
06:00:38 PM
Mandrakeroot
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
06:03:07 PM
...blackwood...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 7th, 2010
06:05:55 PM
Flicka
by blackwood
Feb 7th, 2010
06:12:17 PM
Intuos 4...
by The Goon
Feb 7th, 2010
06:16:50 PM
Cheers Goon
by blackwood
Feb 7th, 2010
06:19:34 PM
...blackwood, as a freelancer, I don't get to talk...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 7th, 2010
06:20:06 PM
Main complaint...
by The Goon
Feb 7th, 2010
06:25:52 PM
Flika, funnily enough
by blackwood
Feb 7th, 2010
06:34:01 PM
Trannyformers
by TheMandrakeRoot
Feb 7th, 2010
06:37:41 PM
Industry
by Six Demon Bag
Feb 7th, 2010
06:38:51 PM
**FX driven action film
by TheMandrakeRoot
Feb 7th, 2010
06:39:36 PM
Alot of hardcore Cameron fans HATE Avatar
by sansara07
Feb 7th, 2010
06:40:08 PM
Six Demon Bag
by TheMandrakeRoot
Feb 7th, 2010
06:41:54 PM
...blackwood, my younger brother is in a similar...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 7th, 2010
06:44:03 PM
Six Demon what I'm saying is
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
06:47:50 PM
Cobbio you are right.And the same thing
by ominus
Feb 7th, 2010
06:57:17 PM
Sorry ominus, its not in the film
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
07:04:49 PM
...
by TheMandrakeRoot
Feb 7th, 2010
07:10:30 PM
Mandrakeroot
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
07:20:56 PM
But not everything NEEDS to be explained
by Six Demon Bag
Feb 7th, 2010
07:51:49 PM
Mandrake---insightful
by Six Demon Bag
Feb 7th, 2010
07:56:51 PM
At the very least, this movie may make way for more 'hard sf" fi
by DocKealy
Feb 7th, 2010
07:58:33 PM
History Aint Written By HATERS
by quantize
Feb 7th, 2010
08:05:53 PM
Who's talking shit about Jersey Shore??
by Sicuv Uyall
Feb 7th, 2010
08:15:53 PM
Haters got it easy
by Six Demon Bag
Feb 7th, 2010
08:20:38 PM
Actually, it sort of is quantize
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
09:13:00 PM
Haters come out and admit they were wrong?
by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave
Feb 7th, 2010
09:17:30 PM
YACK BACKER
by KHjLL
Feb 7th, 2010
09:26:24 PM
sansara07
by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave
Feb 7th, 2010
09:32:30 PM
HATERS
by KHjLL
Feb 7th, 2010
09:33:52 PM
MandrakeRoot
by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave
Feb 7th, 2010
09:37:35 PM
Jeez
by Cobbio
Feb 7th, 2010
09:57:45 PM
Of course those reasons are "too extraneous" Turd
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
10:01:35 PM
Cobbio one of your last posts was titled
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
10:05:58 PM
Really, 'Industry Killer', you're going to shut me down?
by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave
Feb 7th, 2010
10:18:56 PM
That's what I thought, Turd
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 7th, 2010
10:50:49 PM
Re:
by Cobbio
Feb 7th, 2010
11:16:24 PM
Wait...
by Cobbio
Feb 7th, 2010
11:28:50 PM
Great Article!
by Count3d
Feb 7th, 2010
11:50:20 PM
Cobbio has written the funniest thing I've read all year:
by YackBacker
Feb 8th, 2010
12:09:50 AM
Cameron is my Hero
by Autodidact
Feb 8th, 2010
12:20:19 AM
After reading that,..
by EdRyder
Feb 8th, 2010
01:10:59 AM
People are still arguing over AVATAR?!
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Feb 8th, 2010
01:12:12 AM
I take you back on a journey through time . .
by ol' painless
Feb 8th, 2010
01:22:29 AM
Thanks a lot, Quint. That was interesting!
by Motoko Kusanagi
Feb 8th, 2010
01:26:55 AM
To Industry Killer...
by kisskissbangbang
Feb 8th, 2010
01:52:11 AM
Quint, was this recorded for TV?
by damn_dirty_ape
Feb 8th, 2010
01:52:56 AM
ScaryWaitress
by damn_dirty_ape
Feb 8th, 2010
01:56:15 AM
Motoko...
by kisskissbangbang
Feb 8th, 2010
01:59:57 AM
Yackbacker
by white_vader
Feb 8th, 2010
02:13:20 AM
Flicka...
by kisskissbangbang
Feb 8th, 2010
02:13:51 AM
Blackwood, Flick
by white_vader
Feb 8th, 2010
02:39:50 AM
Joyce is amazing KissKiss
by white_vader
Feb 8th, 2010
02:42:13 AM
white_vader...
by kisskissbangbang
Feb 8th, 2010
02:59:20 AM
This talkback is pure comedy
by BendersShinyAss
Feb 8th, 2010
03:04:23 AM
Hate-bloggers?
by fatjesuschrysler
Feb 8th, 2010
03:30:12 AM
KissKissBangBang and BendersShinyass
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 8th, 2010
03:58:58 AM
Or specific AICN talkbackers?
by fatjesuschrysler
Feb 8th, 2010
04:04:50 AM
And benders, the amount of money it's made is meaningless
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 8th, 2010
04:09:45 AM
So Cobbio, enlighten me as to anything I've missed
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 8th, 2010
04:21:33 AM
Well i loved it
by BendersShinyAss
Feb 8th, 2010
04:28:19 AM
The Only Valid Criticism of Avatar That I've Heard...
by LaserPants
Feb 8th, 2010
04:53:21 AM
Re: Industry Killer!!!!
by The Ringwraith
Feb 8th, 2010
04:54:07 AM
The Only Valid Criticism of Avatar That I've Heard...
by LaserPants
Feb 8th, 2010
04:57:03 AM
ScaryWaitress
by Ace of Wands
Feb 8th, 2010
04:58:36 AM
The Conception Of EYWA Is Great
by LaserPants
Feb 8th, 2010
05:00:25 AM
Ringwraith
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 8th, 2010
05:23:03 AM
Jesus, IndustryKiller
by Norm Cascade
Feb 8th, 2010
06:31:59 AM
AVATAR's story SUCKS
by DioxholsterReturns
Feb 8th, 2010
06:34:58 AM
Yo JC --- STARGATE UNIVERSE is better than AVATAR!!!!
by DioxholsterReturns
Feb 8th, 2010
06:51:21 AM
STAR WARS Means More To Me, But...
by LaserPants
Feb 8th, 2010
07:02:05 AM
IndustryKiller talked nothing but sense all day.
by Toilet_Terror
Feb 8th, 2010
07:05:12 AM
Why Avatar is GREAT!!
by BendersShinyAss
Feb 8th, 2010
07:06:24 AM
The simplistic notion of "haters..."
by kells
Feb 8th, 2010
07:13:22 AM
couple of freudian slips in my post
by BendersShinyAss
Feb 8th, 2010
07:17:06 AM
...don't worry Bender. I love sex legged creatures too...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 8th, 2010
07:23:37 AM
Kisskiss, now I'm confused!
by white_vader
Feb 8th, 2010
07:32:34 AM
...KKBB! We've been worried about you...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 8th, 2010
07:38:05 AM
Sex legged creatures make me want to
by white_vader
Feb 8th, 2010
07:40:14 AM
...hehe...morning white_V.
by FlickaPoo
Feb 8th, 2010
07:50:28 AM
Re: Industry killer
by The Ringwraith
Feb 8th, 2010
08:18:18 AM
And can someone please explain...
by The Ringwraith
Feb 8th, 2010
08:24:52 AM
Add minus the slashes
by Toilet_Terror
Feb 8th, 2010
08:28:15 AM
Well shit. Let me try that again.
by Toilet_Terror
Feb 8th, 2010
08:29:25 AM
Holy fuck.
by Toilet_Terror
Feb 8th, 2010
08:31:21 AM
... Ringwraith. < P > but no spaces around the P.
by FlickaPoo
Feb 8th, 2010
08:37:53 AM
Testing
by The Ringwraith
Feb 8th, 2010
09:43:51 AM
Thanks Flicka!
by The Ringwraith
Feb 8th, 2010
09:44:42 AM
white vader
by YackBacker
Feb 8th, 2010
09:49:55 AM
white_vader, what I meant...
by kisskissbangbang
Feb 8th, 2010
09:52:57 AM
Oh there goes IndustryKiller....
by D.Vader
Feb 8th, 2010
10:03:13 AM
And as for Flicka...
by kisskissbangbang
Feb 8th, 2010
10:13:24 AM
...holding our breath BangBang...
by FlickaPoo
Feb 8th, 2010
11:11:32 AM
Heh, you know me D. Vader :), Ringraith....
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 8th, 2010
12:50:49 PM
Hey haterS : CAMERON FUCKED YOU IN THE ARSE ARESHOLES !
by theplant
Feb 8th, 2010
12:57:58 PM
good grief
by lopan
Feb 8th, 2010
01:32:00 PM
This is a joke right
by theplant
Feb 8th, 2010
01:37:15 PM
theplant
by The Ringwraith
Feb 8th, 2010
02:40:43 PM
lol
by xalener
Feb 8th, 2010
02:42:22 PM
@theplant
by lopan
Feb 8th, 2010
03:21:55 PM
Industry Killer, why would I even waste my time
by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave
Feb 8th, 2010
05:01:05 PM
Yeah Yack I've got no time
by white_vader
Feb 8th, 2010
05:30:06 PM
Kisskiss I gotcha now.
by white_vader
Feb 8th, 2010
05:34:54 PM
No offense taken Turd
by IndustryKiller!
Feb 8th, 2010
06:52:52 PM
Wow, does that paragraph trick really work?
by CountryBoy
Feb 8th, 2010
07:28:33 PM
Cool...
by CountryBoy
Feb 8th, 2010
07:33:13 PM
Industry killer:
by BendersShinyAss
Feb 8th, 2010
10:03:20 PM
Australian accent will show through?!
by white_vader
Feb 8th, 2010
10:54:48 PM
white_vader
by Ace of Wands
Feb 9th, 2010
04:42:33 AM
Oh fuck me!
by white_vader
Feb 9th, 2010
06:15:20 AM
Like the majority of people, I love Avatar!
by arjaybee
Feb 9th, 2010
07:15:17 AM
Best scene in the film...
by REVENGE_of_FETT
Feb 9th, 2010
09:42:38 AM
I really enjoyed that part too Fett
by D.Vader
Feb 9th, 2010
11:04:27 AM
My last apology was for the "professionals" out there
by white_vader
Feb 9th, 2010
04:35:23 PM
Flicka, if you're around...
by kisskissbangbang
Feb 10th, 2010
01:09:09 AM
Walterego
by tradeskilz
Feb 10th, 2010
11:58:03 AM
arjaybee speaks the truth.listen to him.
by ominus
Feb 11th, 2010
06:19:16 AM
for me my favourite scene,for some strange reason,
by ominus
Feb 11th, 2010
06:30:04 AM

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