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‘I’m Afraid I’ve Just Remembered What’s Going To Happen Next!!’ Hercules Has Seen Thursday Night’s Last New FRINGE Until April!!
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I am – Hercules!!
FRINGE 2.14 FAQ
What’s it called?
“Jacksonville.”
Who’s responsible?
“Sarah Connor Chronicles” vets Ashley Edward Miller & Zack Stentz, who also scripted Marvel’s now-shooting big-screen “Thor.”
What says Fox?
“A Manhattan office building is rattled to its core, leaving only one survivor, and the Fringe Team examines his otherworldly origins. Once Walter surmises that what shook the building was something he discovered many years ago, the team races to Jacksonville to help Olivia reconnect with her past in order to avert what they fear will happen next. Guest Cast: Jim True-Frost as Ted Pratchett; Ryan McDonald as Brandon; Sarah Edmondson as Pauline Hess.”
What says Walter Bishop in the above promo?
“We’re standing in two buildings, one of which comes from the alternate universe.”
Does True-Frost share any scenes with Lance Reddick?
He does, but this “Wire” reunion is short-lived.
“Otherworldly origins”? As in Mars? Is that why the True-Frost character in the promo has all those arms?
“Otherworldly” as in Earth 2.
Isn’t Jacksonville where Walter Bishop and William Bell conducted their experiments on Olivia Dunham a quarter century ago?
It is.
What else is Fox not telling us?
Massive Dynamic long ago bought the from the U.S. government the site of the Jacksonville Family Day Care Center.
No William Bell in this winter finale?
We don’t see Nimoy’s face, but Bell is name-checked repeatedly. And there’s some videotape from 26 years ago.
The big news?
Walter returns to experimenting on Olivia. There are electrodes and a IV drip. We learn some surprising things. Olivia learns some surprising things.
Any other talking points?
“5-20-10,” observes Walter as he works an ancient combination lock. “I can’t remember the significance.” The second-season finale of “Fringe” arrives May 20, 2010. After tonight, the next new episode of “Fringe” is scheduled for April Fool’s Day.
How does it end, spoiler-boy?
With Walter’s pleas!
9 p.m. Thursday. Fox.
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Huh? Oh and First?
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i hate my life
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They just can't build up any momentum. The scheduling is the main reason this show will die a premature death.
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Olivia finds out that Peter is from the alternate universe
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The show gets boring whenever Olivia is the focus, which is why the monster of the weeks lately have been a lot more fun than the mythology episodes. The MotW eps give Peter more to do and he's a more interesting character and played by a better actor than Torv.
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run solid week to week, no repeats. You'd think Fox would understand this concept with serialized shows considering their experience with 24.
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Wut up?
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that no two shows I like can air new episodes at the same time ? I mean fuck. Lost finally comes back and Fringe is taking a snooze for 2 months ?
Fox is fucking retarded. Any time Fringe starts hitting a stride and getting good, we get a two month break followed by a month of one-off gonowhere totally irrelevant solo episodes. They can lick the lint from under my nutsack. -
...FUX will fuck with it mercilessly, then kill it like a cat hunting a mouse. Same M.O. Murdoch's legion of fascist zombies have had for the past 15 years.
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UGGHHHHHH. Fock. Tonight's episode sounds awesome, but it's hard to get excited when you know the show's going on hiatus till april. A 2 month break? Lame. Also, I really hope that when they come back they do more episodes related to this threat from the other reality. The monster of the week stuff has been pretty good, but it's so unrelated to the main plot. Oh, and whatever happened to "the pattern"?
Well, at least while Fringe is off we have some Supernatural to watch on Thursdays. I think Flashforward comes back soon too, but they need to step things up on that show too. It's pretty bad most of the time. -
Seriously - this is a great show, but its being left to die with all these bloody breaks? Here in the UK we have a delayed schedule from SKY TV so the breaks actually allow SKY to show a full series week after week. I dont know how you Yanks cope with it if you are a fan of the show.
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is still a billion times better and more interesting than anything happening on 24.
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Season One, at least so far, was monumentally better than S2. S2 doesn't even have a "big bad" or main threat yet. Just the vague notions of the other world from one or two episodes like 6 months ago. I can't even remember the last time they tackled the mythology.
EVeryone here is right, this show is fucking awesome, but its dying becuse of these breaks. I just don't understand what FOX is doing to this show, first putting it on thursdays and then butchering it with all these breaks. I know its not exactly "must see tv" with huge ratings compared to other shows, but its the kind of show that demands continuity. It's really unfortunate. Oh well...til April I guess.... -
And they gave us four filler episodes.
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Feb 04, 2010 9:34:16 AM CST
"Massive Dynamic long ago bought the from the U.S. government th
by robnhud
Huh?
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Walter and Peter's on screen chemistry is still a joy to behold, Astrid is getting more screen time. All is good. But why so many friggin breaks dammit !!!!!
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Okay, a lot was made of ZFT in season 1, but I can't recall a single episode in season 2 that has even mentioned ZFT. Was the now (supposedly) dead David Robert "Dumbledore's Son" Jones the only member? I sure didn't think so but it's like ZFT no longer exists for them. Nevermind that they've never come back to Olivia's "powers" after she turned off those light on the bomb with her mind. Oh, and one final note to the good people at the Fox Broadcasting Network: TWO MONTH HIATUSES SUCK BIG FAT FLOPPY DONKEY DONG!
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now is the perfect time to run new eps, because the alternative is the Winter fucking Olympics which no one really gives two shits about anymore. Who gives a flying fuck if one guy can hold another guy in his crotch while they both fly through an ice shoot? And I could care less about Ice Skating or Hockey. I'm from fucking Texas, where we don't have enough ice for that shit. Why does every network flinch at the Olympics? You know, their ratings might not be so high if there were anything else on.
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forgetting key mythology story points is something i don't recall x-files ever do. ideas resolved themselves. just putting these scripts through a transformers blender and hitting puree. another example of crap writing. get gaiman or ellison to show you how it's done. that said, i agree that shows that are phantasmagorical are infinatly more imaginative than the usual 24-terrorism "ideas". i think i'm going to buy the sandman books since someone bought me endless nights recently. thank god hollywood isn't touching this property. oh, and the farscape ads are driving me nuts since i did buy the set for the $130, not 60. D'OH!!!
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... same boat with the "bring back the mythology" people. Walter and Peter were what got me interested in the show, the mythology was what made me want to watch it. Now, ZFT, major villains, FBI moles, super-powers, "the pattern" and all that fun stuff. I could care less about digging scorpion boys or gas-huffing Nazis. I want some menace and more than Walter hinting at the fact he stole Peter from Earth 2. zzzzzzzzzzz
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story "twist" has to be one of the most telegraphed "surprises" on any of these genre shows. I am curious to see how they depict Jacksonville. I was born there and still live about 90 minutes away. Don't see it depicted in tv or films very often.
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The only one I was looking for was Deadwood, and it's not cheap enough. $15 per season, and I'm sold. $20 TOPS! Try again, Amazon.
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Because the whole point of the show, from the creators standpoint, was to make a show where people woulnd't feel alienated by the mythology and would be satisfied week to week with or without it. But now, the lack of mythology is what is actually killing the show...and why? Because they're mythology is so fucking interesting. If it wasn't so fucking fantastic, with worlds colliding, the observers, David Robert Jones, Alt-Peter, that mirrored typewriter deal, the image of people sitting on swingsets...its all so good. It makes the MotW episodes seem boring. Kinda funny it worked out that way. Now its like the people who weren't interested in the mythology stopped watching anyway, because of all the breaks they do and that its on thursday when other more popular shows are on, whereas the people who stuck with it...all we want is the mythology. Its a shame. I want more swingsets damnit! That image of Walter and The Observer is just so strangely beautiful. Alien...yet totally normal. And I know there is a swingset conversation in tonights episode too.
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After Lost ends in four months, there's going to be at least 1.4 million viewers going through JJ Abrams/serialized primetime sci-fi withdrawal. This show could pick up those viewers if Fox gives it an end date and drops the stand-alone eps. Anna Torv, have a chat with your uncle.
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I could be mistaken, but I don't recall any repeats. The show has either been new or not on, as far as I recall. However, I agree, this stop and start bullshit is going to kill any possibility of the show gaining traction. WTF Fox?
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That's the part of the mythology I find most interesting. Somewhere in the other universe is a Walter who had his son stolen and who is not missing pieces of his brain. Fully functional yet even more grief stricken alt-Walter could be a good villain eventually if they want to go that way.
I disagree with you guys about the MotW episodes though. What Lies Below was the best episode of the series too date. But then I'm not just focusing on what cool scifi things they do but also things like cinematography, acting etc. These recent MotW episodes have shown an upsurge in basic tv-making competence by the powers that be on this show. -
Now we have to wait for the Spring Premier.
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(1) Stop the fucking breaks you assholes .... air them all in a row like Lost you dipshits and, even more important, (2) if you get a script proposal and it doesn't have a reference to the pattern, an appearance by the watcher, William Bell or Nina Sharp, then tell the writers to go fuck themselves with a firehouse and get back to the drawing board. This show only fucking works if it is moving to resolve some meta-plot. I thought every 1 hour drama writer learned that from Star Trek The Next Generation.
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episodes is that not many people watch them, the standalones get much better ratings.
It's weird cause its actually working by getting new viewers but its also pissing off the real fans.
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TONS of shows air the way Fringe has been. All this insane talk about how the show is going to die is IN YOUR HEADS! The show is doing well, yet people have been crying over how the show will get killed because of breaks... Have you all forgotten about how Lost was aired originally??? There were breaks like every six episodes... were you guys whining about that? i'll bet you were. were you right to whine? obviously you weren't. LOTS of shows have these hiatus' and Fringe is solid and is not on the brink of cancellation like so many of you have been imagining.
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Eh, so does this show only get broadcast on Thursdays with a new moon, or when it's a spare the air day, or something like that? It sure seems that way. I've given up trying to figure out when to watch it.
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Are you suggesting that STNG had meta-plots? Or are you saying it didn't?
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"The problem with the mythology.... episodes is that not many people watch them"No, people watch them, and my mom, the most casual of casual tv watchers told me this week was going to be about the mythology and she's excited, and i've never heard her ask me questions about what i think a show may be doing--she just never cared. the standalones get much better ratings. It's weird cause its actually working by getting new viewers but its also pissing off the real fans."Again, no. What is working is that not EVERY episode is about mythology, and becasue every single episode doesn't require having seen the previous episodes, casual viewers will give it a shot, and understand and ultimately enjoy a single episode because it shows them what the show is, and that its good, and then viewers keep watching. Imagine trying to get into lost in the middle of season 3. And, as a REAL fan (whatever that means) I a) enjoy the show (a prerequsite for being a true, 'real fan') I"m happy with the no-mythology-every-episode aspect of the show because it will keep the show on the air longer for the reasons i said above. I think the solution is just to add a little mythology into the standalones. Maybe a short scene or some hints or whatever.They've been doing that! For instance, the lady walter used to experiment on looked at peter when she was in the car at the end of the episode and saw the light flare that she sees with people from other dimensions--a moment that lasted only seconds, but dropped a major plot revelation in under thirty seconds... thats good storytelling.
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and, jay, since you're a stoner i will give you a pass on the oomment about little hints because smoking pot = memory loss. years ago when i was a stoner i watched the episode of lost where they reveal how ben killed everyone, and when i was talking to a friend later, he was all pumped about that big reveal and i had to go back and re-watch it.
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with the woman seeing the light around peter is exactly what I'm talking about. That was like 3-4 episodes ago and there's been nothing since.
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ok its not but it totally could have been.
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I haven't watched last week's episode. Was there anything about the mythology in that episode, or can I skip it for now and watch it during the 2 month break?
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actually, since that episode they have said: peter was sick alot as a child (one episode) walter was shown an image of a child's coffin and asked what the first word to pop in his head was, which was 'peter' (another episode) and then there was a scene where peter was in bed and scared, with walter walking in the shadows (another episode). I think the combination of these moments (and more) reveal what really happened: Peter died at a very young age, Walter cound simply not accept that (which was also his reaction when olivia was 'dead') so what walter did was devote everything he had into discovering a theoretical doorway to another dimension. He succeeds and, to get his son back, he goes to another dimension and kidnaps a still-living peter and takes him back to his dimension. That is all implied. I have a theory that takes it a few steps further (but this is pure conjecture on my part) which is that walter kept going back to other dimensions over and over again because all the peters kept getting sick so he kept taking peters back to his dimension in a desperate attempt to keep peter in his life. that could explain the 'i was sick alot as a child' comment because each peter he kidnapped lived longer than the others but still died. The irony is that Walter was so desperate to get his son back, and loved peter so much, and was so OBSESSED with saving peter that it eventually got Walter committed to a psych ward for all those years, and the kicker is that peter actually resented his father so much for going insane--which was the result of a desperate father who loved his son too much to accept he lost him.
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But will catch this ep on Fox's site I guess
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the guy in the office building
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Fifteen minutes to go. First five minutes were interesting. Wish I was watching 30 Rock.
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45 min ago, did I miss anything?
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The force from the other side, removed parts of Walter's Brain and implanted it in other people. They were trying to steal the info in his mind. They eventually took all those pieces out of those people and reconnected them to Walter, and the real Walter returned for a couple of minutes. The shocking thing was that the real Walter was not a very nice guy at all.
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The force from the other side, removed parts of Walter's Brain and implanted it in other people. They were trying to steal the info in his mind. They eventually took all those pieces out of those people and reconnected them to Walter, and the real Walter returned for a couple of minutes. The shocking thing was that the real Walter was not a very nice guy at all.
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And that show was cancelled due to boring America.
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It's really bad when the audience is so far ahead of the characters and events that we have to spend hours waiting for them to catch up. No surprises in this episode. Just a few minutes in, we were told how it would end. All we had to do was wait for Olivia to get scared. No, we had to suffer for 50 minutes, waiting for her to get scared, while nothing happened. And then finally, the thing happened that we knew was going to happen. Who wrote this crap? The entire episode was nothing but filler. Not one new bit of information, not one exciting new development. Just an hour of coma-inducing blandness.
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booyah.
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shit just got real.
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Technically you're right--but in that same episode (same sequence, actually) they showed the picture of the coffin. Actually going back and forth in different dimensions didn't make him crazy--what made him crazy was SUCCEEDING at going back and forth from dimensions--SO parts of his brain were taken, which made him crazy, but the parts of his brain were take BECAUSE he discovered how to travel through dimensions, and BECAUSE he wanted to save peters life, he learned how to travel through dimensions. I wasn't speaking like its an A->B story-- its A) Peter dies as a child B) Walter can't accept this C) so he learned how to travel through dimensions D) he brought peter back E) parts of his brain were taken becasue of what he had done F) without the parts of his brain, he went crazy. G) because he went crazy, peter grew to resent his dadso we're talking about A->B->C->D->E->F->G
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I missed from around x:35pm-x:45pm and don't know how Olivia saved the day.
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maybe with evil Dunham and Astrid?
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Could she be the big bad from the alternate universe? Maybe this universe's Walter had to kill his alternate self when he took Peter?
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Walter stole ALTVERSE Peter. Now the Folks in the ALTVERSE See him and our Universe as a threat to theirs. I mean if somebody stole one our kids out of thin air we would be scared too. Not to mention the nasty temporal effects this has between the Universes. The war is coming because Walter stole ALTVERSE Peter. My Guess is the show ends with Peter going back to the ALTVERSE to bring balance to things as Walter described tonight and Walter having to finally accept his son died. Olivia just gets to keep getting hotter. Oh yeah I'd hit that in any universe.
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Favreau just said the movie is set before the incredible hulk, all yours AICN.
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Really pretty obvious. The date of May 20, 2010 is a Thursday, I think. Don't know if it matches with season finale, but that's the day the shit hits the fan, shit being the other universe and the fan being ours.
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Next time I'll read the actual article
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Next time I'll read the actual article
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Next time I'll read the actual article
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Did the after show preview state that Fringe was coming back in April with 3 new episodes? Only 3 before another break??
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Patience...
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See the building in our universe that was going to vanish? It wasn't from another universe, it was going to another universe. I'm not the one in the house who likes this show; every time I have to wait to watch 30 Rock so that I can see wooden actors make Mr. Wizard's ghost sigh, I get a little mad.
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will be the guy who got sucked into the alt universe to compensate for Peter. Because they made it seem as though 'our' Peter is still buried in the ground in our universe.
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because there was an unnatural connection happening between the two universes that created her vision. The other universe had already staked its claim on that building, therefore the mechanisms were already in place for it to disappear.
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in my bag. Hurry. The Pretzels."
This is why I love Walter. I loved his "I've never won anything before" either.
Yes they have been building painfully slowly to the rest of the crew finding out the truth about Peter and the jerking around of it's air date and the giant gaps suck. It's ratings have been pretty good all season tho and I can't see them ditching it. If they did, SyFy would snatch it right up.
8 new episodes in a row when it comes back on April Fools. I won't complain about that in the least, especially since the first one back shows how Walter ended up w/alt-verse Peter. -
Just an observation, but at the beginning of the episode, were the Giant Floating Letters misspelled? Or was that a deliberate clue that we were on Earth2? Check your DVRs and get back to me...
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just started watching it, came on here to see what people thought of the dreamland phasing two people together ripoff, but no-ones mentioned the x-files this week.
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Feb 05, 2010 10:04:33 AM CST
They need to link the Philadelphia Experiment to this show
by turketron_2
Since the legend says that people were phased into the fucking walls and such in that experiment. They could tie it in as some of the first experiments with opening a doorway between realities.
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"Legend" says? Sorry, but legends usually have a scrap of truth of them. All that wall phasing crap was invented out of nothing years after the experiment was over by conspiracy tards.
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...can some geek here invent a transdimensional TV so wee can watch subsequent seasons from an alternate universe where FOX is competently run? Since the "dimensional balance" has to be maintained, we can beam them episodes of Jersey Shore or something equally horrible as a replacement.
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Feb 05, 2010 11:01:58 AM CST
Knew an old friend of my dad who was in Air Force intel
by jaylenotookmyjob
caimed that Philly Experiment was just about degausing mines, something went wrong the hull was electrified and a lot of the crew was electricuted. End of story. However the same old dude also says the gov absolutely has alien bodies and several crashed saucers, so who the hell knows what's what?
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William Bell perhaps?
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They left enough hints and clues but I always wondered if they were going to misdirect us. Doing the sci-fi happy dance.
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They already told us Peter was from the other side last season, it wasn't a revelation.
Man I want to like this show but every time the focus is on Olivia it just slows to a crawl, Torv is such a boring actress. But when the story is on Walter and Peter and Torv is just their friend with a gun then it works. -
From what we saw, it was Bell who removed the parts of Walter's brain relating to traveling across dimensions.
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