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TRANSFORMERS 3(-D)!!
Merrick here...
An article about one of the companies transforming many upcoming releases into 3-D makes an alarming allusion to another potential 3-D release that's apparently in the talking stages.
Stereo Pictures Korea president Sung Young-seok told Daily Variety that his company is in talks for three additional pictures at Warner and is bidding on a number of 3D films for individual directors, including one for Michael Bay.
Bay's next project is "Transformers 3," and there have been discussions among Bay, Paramount and Industrial Light & Magic about going 3D with the pic. The big stumbling block is the extra time required to do production and visual effects in 3D, as the movie's release date is already set. Having the pic post-converted could alleviate that problem.
...says THIS article in Variety.
Interestingly, this newslet might signify something of a shift for Mister Bay - who has openly pondered whether his style of filmmaking would be 'too much' in 3-D (my paraphrase, not his exact words); he's even called 3-D a "gimmick" and a "fad".
Money, and AVATAR's Best Picture Oscar nomination, changes everything I guess.
Unlike many, I really don't hate Michael Bay movies (except for REVENGE OF THE FALLEN). This said, I don't think I wanna see his movies...given the way he makes 'em...in 3-D. I get nauseated just thinking about how dizzying and disorienting that could be.
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Bay's next project is "Transformers 3," and there have been discussions among Bay, Paramount and Industrial Light & Magic about going 3D with the pic. The big stumbling block is the extra time required to do production and visual effects in 3D, as the movie's release date is already set. Having the pic post-converted could alleviate that problem.
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BAY=LAME
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Michael Bay style
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Yet I get suckered in every damn time! Me = fail!
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good job, geeks, keep sustaining this franchise... "but it's just a popcorn movie" ... "let's see you do better" ... "it is what it is".... save it.
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Piss off Bay!
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In Matrix 2 Trinity died and was resurreqted, yet died again in Matrix 3. Hopefully since shya died and was resurreqted in tf2 he can die in 3. Impaling worked for Trinity, so.....
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Why does Michael Bay get to keep on making movies?
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A Fucking HACK Director.
Go back to sucking James Cameron's cock. Bay is a shit-making director.
Avatar DESTROYED your shitty fucking Trannyformers "movie." -
Bay should stick to his guns. Not every movie needs to be in 3D. His style is cut way to fast for 2D let alone a 3D movie. Like a lot of people, I wish they would put fourth a bigger effort to make a tighter (i.e. shorter)movie that makes a little more sense than "Fallen". And maybe create a part three that knocks our collective dicks in the dirt. 3D is rapidly wearing out it's welcome.
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Except when it comes to transformers, he really dropped the ball. We have the first tf with the bonus disc from walmart where the original Megatron is speaking, he should've had him in the movies. It's not like Hugo Weaving's voice was recognizable; if they hadn't said so I wouldn't have known it was him because his voice was too altered.
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His horrible, horrible Amos n' Andy robots.
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Im being sarcastiq of course. Since hollywood jumped on the reboot bandwagon, and now cuz of avatar the 3d bandwagon, I won't be surprised if the new spidey fliq is a 3d reboot.
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UGH.
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He's gotta do it in 3 now? How long before every new movie comes out in SMELL-O-VISION or GROPE-A-SCOPE?
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is an unappreciated genius.
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Feb 03, 2010 12:07:47 PM CST
IAmLegolas, you forgot "well, it isn't Shakespeare."
by jackknifed_juggernaut
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A comprehensible plot and 3 dimensional characters...I guess that is too old fashioned.
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They are white robots acting black. Like that Jamie Kennedy movie.
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Not the first of many. Avatar is the last film I want to see in 3D. No more please.
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Will there be Middle Eastern robots yelling "IIIIIIIEEEEEEEE" or Asian robots with slanty eyes and buck teeth?Only Megan Fox buck naked can save this movie(maybe).
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it was a crossover pic way ahead of the avengers
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Or both....or Hot Rod becoming Rodimus Prime, that made people really happy the first time, a live aqtion 3d version complete with Judd Nelson voicing Rodimus and "you've got the touch" blaring in the baqground will have people from 12 and up creaming themselves.
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no.... nooooo....... NOOOOOOOOOO
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Fuck this.
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Feb 03, 2010 12:18:18 PM CST
It's Bay's response to critics saying TF is one dimensional
by azultool
Fucking stupid ass bullshit.
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It's Megan Fox in 3FUCKIN D!!! sign me up!!!
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Those people are part of the problem, not solution.
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they're all run by mindless fucking sheep. When hollywood is ablaze all will be right.
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Transformers movies are GARBAGE
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I think that's what it's going to come down to. Imagine Cloverfield in 3-D.
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Say what you like about Avatar's mawkishness, but it tells an emotional story, with genuine spectacle and kick-ass action. And it made a shit load of money. Bay, on the other hand, does lowest common denominator, effects-and-noise shit. WITH NO FREAKING STORY!!!!!! Not one that any old-school Hollywood producer would recognise, anyway. I am so glad I didn't go see TF2. That shit should NOT be encouraged.
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Apparently, now every two-bit director/producer thinks he or she can create a film that will effectively use 3-D. Have they not stopped for even a second and realized it was James FUCKING Cameron who made the 3-D spectacular? It'd be like every subpar track athlete in the world seeing Usain Bolt run a 9.58-second 100-meter and thinking, "Wow, I can do that, too!" It's also like dressing a turd in a tuxedo. Shit is shit.
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Feb 03, 2010 12:25:59 PM CST
If AVATAR made zesty, passionate love to your eyeballs,
by colonelfatheart
then TRANSFORMERS 3D will pull an IRREVERSIBLE on your eye sockets. And your logic. And your capacity for spacial reasoning. T3D will be the real game-changer. It will actually lobotomize you in your theater seat.
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What else could follow the testicles?
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but not for this
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Needs to have Jackie Chan voice a robot and say stuff like "good ruck" and "me so sorry". His car could be a laundry truck. Luis Guzman or Cheech Marin has to be a lowrider that wears a bandanna in robot form. There should also be a transforming vibrator for Megan's character. We must have more drug and masturbation humor! Dick and fart jokes for all Transformers! Optimus needs to get laid! DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY! psi
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Transformers 3 is going to be in 3D? No way. Flabbergasted I am, completely around the bend. I'm busting with surprise.
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With an actual plot. With actual characters. With actual emotion. With actual quality.
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How lovely?
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At least the Twilight fan(girls?) aren't a market that is constantly served with better product than what they get. (Don't ask me to define what that market may be...) Anyone who goes out of their way to see "Transformers 3" when they've been given "Star Trek", "Avatar", "Iron Man", "District 9" and more simply has no discerning taste.
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The spoof of every movie going 3-D.
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I would go to the monkey house and taunt them...I am sure they plent of shit to hurl.
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Probably have to have some instructional video about it inducing strokes and/or nausea, like it was a ride at Universal or something.
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His editing style won't allow the scenes to stay on screen long enough for the brain to process a 3-D "effect". Rapid cut action will come off as a big, loud blurry mess. The scenes in Avatar that really "popped" were the ones that focused on the scenery/characters. Not the fast action shots
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that is all i have to say about that
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Maybe Cameron's style of 3D will get Hollywood away from this frenetic, slapdash, seizure-inducing style. Nah, probably not.
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And I'm not talking about old Chinese guys having heart attacks. I'm talking SCANNERS-style deaths.
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for glasses you wear all the time that >get this< "let you see everything in 3D!!" I love love how fucking stupid people are. It's more entertaining than any Michael Bay-onet-myself-in-the-neck movie.
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coming very soon. 3d tv!
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I look for a backlash against 3-D pretty soon...it's just too damn expensive (movies are too expensive as it is, let alone tacking on another $3 per ticket).
I've seen a couple different 3-D movies (including AVATAR...hated it) and came away unimpressed. After the first 20 minutes of AVATAR I wished I had gone to the 2-D instead. To me, it just didn't really bring anything to the movie. 3-D is amazing for some things on IMAX, but just to see a regular movie in 3-D isn't worth it. It seems gimmicky and most movies are so obviously not designed for the medium (too quick of movements...most action scenes just look blurry and will give most people a headache).
Personally, AVATAR was the final movie I'll ever see in 3-D and I have a feeling I'm not alone. -
...I do recall seeing sunglasses advertised in a drug store as letting you "see the world in HD!" a couple of years ago.
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is the fact that it somehow managed to turn what was nothing more than an average and somewhat lackluster film into a 9 time Oscar nominated behemoth that even more shockingly is now just about the highest grossing film in history. How can a gimmick delude the masses to such a degree that it give such extra credence to a film that deserves no more than a nod for it's ground breaking effects. Even if you compared Avatar (and if it helps at all watch it in 2D) to any prior James Cameron film (not to mention any similar genre film that was never even considered for an Oscar or even a Golden Globe) it has to at least make that much obvious. What scares me even more is the fact that no research is expected to be done in relation to the growing and mostly downplayed complaints by 3D viewers of eye irritation and headaches so when this "fad" really gets going (which it has already) more and more people will be realizing that what should be another escapism release has led to vision and mental health issues that coincides with the unhealthy snack foods and drinks sold top dollar at the theater that contributes to an entirely separate list of health issues.
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I have seen portions of several films converted into 3D from an original 2D image, including Superman Returns and The Harry Potter sequences, and it is awful. The image has a total ghosting effect, is sometimes blurry, and hurts your eyes. The only way to film movies in 3D is with 3D cameras. I am not looking forward to either Transformers 3 or Tron 2.0 in 3D because of this. The general public is going to think that both these movies will have the same kind of visual experience as Avatar and will be greatly disappointed.
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for potential motion sickness
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the lack of a coherent script, absence of engaging actors and the fanbase's complete lack concern for the franchise.
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The influence will be felt for years.
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...I dont think I can take a 3d TF movie...it will be toooooo crazy (in a good or bad way?)...but yea, bring on TF3! FUCK GI BORE!
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HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So now every studio wants to push 3D down our fucking throats so they can charge extra bucks, MAKE extra bucks. FUCK PLOT. "Idiocracy" was showing is the FUCKING FUTURE, "ASS 3D" should be released soon. Also: Avatar sold less tickets than Dark Knight, yet is #1. This is BULLSHIT.
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Yep, Cameron is one of the few people in the industry who actually knew how to use 3-D well, and to it's full potential. I think it's funny that studios are now probably equating 3-D to huge money, but have we forgotten that 3D HAS been around for some time, especially recently? Sure the live-action blockbusters haven't been 3D, but we've had Pixar movies, Zemeckis movies, a lot of family friendly movies, etc.
The truth is that all the 3D in the world will NOT make loads of money let alone break office records. You need a GOOD movie, that will resonate with people, and bring them back over and over again. Transformers 2 sucked, that's why it had almost no repeat business. Avatar on the other hand was the real deal. Now they're gonna be walking in the shadow of Cameron for quite some time until someone else actually displays some talent and igenuity and does something ORIGINAL and revolutionary. -
Bay sucks 3D COCK!!!
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...What Jay Leno is to talk shows.
They're both GREAT!...
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Has ruined cinema, i thought it was just ok, now i hate it.
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Worldwide, Avatar is at $2 billion to Dark Knight's $1 billion. The tickets to Avatar inflated but they aren't twice as expensive on average. (Keep in mind that The Dark Knight also took in inflated Imax showings as well.)
If you want to talk domestic ticket sales, then you should include the figures adjusted for inflation, and in that case "The Dark Knight" didn't even sell as many tickets as "Forrest Gump", so there's no reason to get bent out of shape over Avatar being considered ahead of it. -
I've been warning about this on AICN for about TWO FUCKING YEARS. They all laughed at me. Laughed.
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But TDK is still a better film than Cameron's "Star Wars".
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So when you watch a 3D movie, you don't need to pay extra bucks for the fucking goggles? Glad to know there are places who doesn't fucking ROB their audiences if they want an extra dimension on their films. Why don't they just fucking sell me the goggles, and let me take them, and charge me the same as a regular movie?
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GO FUCK YOURSELVES !!! You must be old and blind as a bat if Avatar didn't convince you depth of field 3D is the way to go with ALL major motion pictures ! I swear, you people just don't know about ANYTHING !!! You hate all these films. Why don't you just quit watching movies all altogether !!!
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Summer 2011!
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The problem is not 3D. The problem is that now, for the studios, 3D = good film. And audiences go smiling to the movie theaters, eager to watch another 3D crapfest. Studios won't focus on better movies anymore, they'll focus on the current trend: CGI, 3D, dumbed down action films. We'll get Transformers crap every single summer.
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...You just don't pay twice as much for tickets to 3D as to a regular release, hence simple math would suggest that Avatar has sold more tickets, since it has twice the box office of The Dark Knight. (I suppose there might be places that do gouge customers for double the ticket price for a 3D show, but that's not the average difference in price.)
Stalkeye: I don't have a strong enough opinion to argue either way with that. Truthfully, I liked both flicks, but neither are really among my favorites. -
DO IT!!!!
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We all know this movie is going to stink. Why not bring back the movie gimmick of the 50s that will allow us to experience this movie at it's maximum level. Although I don't know if you could introduce a smell that would stink bad enough to reflect this movie without having to condemning the theater after the first showing.
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The fact that Avatar was in 3D had no bearing on me going to see the movie. In fact, I probably would have seen it in 2D if I could have found a theater close to me showing it that way.
I find 3D distracting at times although it isn't nearly as bad as the 80s revival of the gimmick where everything in the movie was coming at your head at 50MPH. That said, there are still too many directors who purposely film scenes to utilize the 3D rather than make the 3D as an added bonus without being a slave to it (Cameron probably has done the best job of that).
I do not look forward to a bunch of Transformers zooming at my face since Michael Bay has never seen a visual effect that he doesn't mind beating over the audiences' heads until they are brain dead. -
God, this has the...well, I was going to say the potential to be nothing but fail, but that would make it sound like the movie has any sort of potential at all. So I will say...god, this is going to be fucking terrible.
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http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/02/03/get-ready-for-watchmen-2/
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I hear people whining and bitching about 3D being a "gimmick" or whatever and all I can think is "Oh FUUUUUCK YOOOOOU!" Christ on a fucking chair leg, if you don't want it, don't fucking BUY IT! Quite simple really. I want it, so I'll buy it. It's elementary my dear dipfuck.
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It will be the high point of 21st Century film.
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Bay is such a tool.
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Feb 03, 2010 4:11:15 PM CST
3-D won't work for Bay. The worst 3-D scene in AVATAR was..
by yackbacker
When Sully is running from the Thanator. It's like there aren't enough frames per second to makke the 3-D work with that kind of camera movement. And since Bay can ONLY shoot in that technique, his movie will be even more unwatchable in 3-D
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Might be the film they're talking about. I heard he was attached to direct.
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No. No. No. No. No.No. No.No.No.This does not mean yes, Mr. Bay.
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The race for everyone and their brother to move to 3D is downright hilarious to watch. They're probably right - for all the complaints and all the flops and blahs that are likely destined to come, it's likely where the money is. It's just like how, after Lord of the Rings, everyone rushed out and incorporated MASSIVE software to create great clashing armies - lots of bad attempted clones, but now its just an expected part of the toolkit for any epic.
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the reactions of some "spectacle" directors towards Avatar. Bay saying 3-D is a gimmick (he's wrong, but that's beside the point) is sour grapes, nothing more. Cameron was just as bitter after seeing A New Hope, but at least he admits it. Understanable, though. A lot of these guys actually thought they were pushing the envelope, Lucas included, and here they are like specks in Cameron's rear-view mirror.
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You know there will be a lot of response and you know what it will be like. And we can all continue to whine about it but from their position(studios and director) they are right. They are businessmen who's only goal is to make money. Bay is a moneymaker, 3-d is now a moneymaker, how can they not continue doing this. That being said i really hate 3-d and i do not like all the stupid humor and unrecognizable scenes in the tf movies, and the releasee date worries me the most. But before bay made transformers and it was announced he would do it, i thought he would be the perfect man to do it...well i was wrong.
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I wouldn't be shocked if pale, teenage, vampire stud-bots made an appearance in TF3. You laugh now...but just wait.
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You give the Transformers audience another few bucks to pay per ticket and James Cameron better make some room up top. I feel like THOWING UP saying that, or even THINKING about it but it's a fact.
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thRowing up. fucking vomiting
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Avatar and everything else. Avatar was the first film I saw in the 3D and I had no idea what to expect. All of the 3D trailers before hand (Alice in Wonderland, Shrek, and some others I forget) seemed to be about whipping shit at the audience and getting them to duck or at least react in some way.In Avatar, on the other hand, Cameron's use of 3D seemed more about creating an immersive environment.I may be wrong, but so far every new 3D movie announced seems to be coming from a director, like Bay, that I have no faith can produce anything but the non-Avatar type of 3D. I don't go to movies expecting shit to get whipped at my head and , I may be wrong, but I don't think too many other people do either...
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I do not need to see Micheal Bay let loose his bowls in 3-D.
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...first we have Cameron's Titanic which smashed box office records about a love story that everyone knew the ending to. So Bay did the same thing with Pearl Harbour and failed. Cameron makes a two-dimensional movie in 3D and it smashes box office records. Bay is attempting to do the same thing. And he will fail.
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If she's in it and didn't lose the gig. Then the setting needs to be tropical and thongville of course, causing 14, 15-year-olds many trips to ah, relieve themselves.
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3D won't change the fact that Bayformers is shit and that Bay can't make a good 2D film let alone a 3D one.
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I swore I'd never watch another Bay film in theaters after the first Transformers, but 3D Megan Fox does kinda make it tempting....
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But quality? Michael Bay can hardly crack it in the minor leagues, while Cameron just won the pennant. But let's keep in mind Camerons first 3 films were LOW grossers (relatively), and the 80's didn't really see grosses like we have today. Cameron only has 2 films in the last 15 years, while ALL of Bays movies have been in the last 15 years. And go figure, Camerons last two films have gross almost as much as Bays whole filmography.
I can't believe people are blaming Avatar for this shit. Avatar did a great thing by utilizing new technology to give audiences a great experience. It's not Camerons fault that Hollywood doesn't really understand shit. If people were smart and actually did things right like Cameron, blockbuster films could be a lot better then they have been. Avatar or not, some movie would ahve came out and made bank with 3D, so I'm glad it was actually a good film, and most importantly, an ORIGINAL film. -
The best you can get with post-conversion is a ViewMaster effect.
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It was neat in Avatar because the 3D was all background and environment. But now because Avatar makes billions of dollars, every studio is going to think that's the key to making a blockbuster. Sorry, I don't need to see Bumble Bee's oil stick or Megan Fox's nasty mutant thumbs poking me through the screen.
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3 Dimensions of shit!!!
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Come on people. If it wasn't for Bay making movies about 'splosions we won't have some of the funniest talkbacks I have ever read. Hell, some of the crazies ideas people are throwing out in here would probably make better movies than what Hollywhore is shitting out.
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I hope this gives Bay the biggest coke-induced seizure to the point of giving him a heart attack.. one can only pray for this
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Why does Avatar have an unoriginal plagiarized manipulative white-guilt story that has been done to death and offered nothing new? Why a poorly written terribly acted 1-dimensional characters? Why an extremely lazy cheesy dialogue that was unintentionally funny and insulting? Why boring action scenes that were predictable underwhelming and soulless? Why have character designs and environments rip directly from other movies, games and books. Transformers fans and Avatar fans are the same people they all jumped on the BOX OFFICE = QUALITY bandwagon. It's the same shit overhyped S'PLOSION!! CGI blockbuster extravaganza with robots and dinosaurs punching each other.." WOOO OMG FUCK YEAH!!!WOOO WHOOOO!" 3D is just a distracting gimmick and a fad for dumb sheep. These movies are just like FOX news Sara Palin Glen Beck American Idol McDonalds Windows Lady Gaga Maria Carey ect ect... completely vapid and unoriginal garbage made for the retarded masses. 7 Razzie nominations for Bay's 850 million dollar B.O. masterpiece.... epic justice.
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How can you say James Cameron's past 9 films made $1.75 billion dollars?? Are you just throwing numbers out there?? Titanic alone has made $1.8 billion dollars and Avatar just beat it a couple of weeks ago. So James Cameron's last 2 films grossed over $3.6 billion worldwide and still counting. Michael Bay doesn't even come close to the quality standards of James Cameron's films. Bays films are dumb and loud..
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Maybe they can have blinds to put over the glasses every time that greasy rodent-looking creepy appears onscreen!
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I think Cameron's overrated, a view Avatar has reinforced, and yet even I would say Cameron's infinitely more talented than Bay. As is my tuchus.
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Cameron's Avatar was great because he has patience. He takes 7-8 years between films. The guy will wait 5 years until he has an idea good enough to warrant spending 2 years writing a screenplay. Then he spends 2-3 years investigating and studying the limits f the current film making technology. And then if the idea and technology meet, he talks to the suits. A fucking 7-10 year average between films. The man will put a great story aside and wait for technology to catch up. These hyped up bandwagon nut sack riders will all make shitty remakes. Learn patience.
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Is this coming out in 3D? Cool. Just another excuse for me to download it for free. Fuck Bay and fuck Hollywood trying to rape Cameron's success. They won't be raping me this time. I already got penetrated enough by George Lucas the Hutt.
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Even more emphasis on special effects and gimmicks like 3D. Less effort than ever on story. We have some shitty movies to look forward to these next few years.
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please no more megan fox bullshit. megan fox in 3D is like-a hot girl in three dimensions. not sure were you would find one of those...
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Michael Bay makes antigeeks movies. He treats the geeky characters in his film with so much contempt that the geeks have nothing to relate to. He makes no efforts to engage a geek's imagination and dreams about their childhood heroes, instead he prefers to blow shit up. He effectively takes out the role that the geeks would have imagined themselves in when they dream about these properties, and replace them with alpha males and supermodels, which effectively destroys the geek fantasy, and making them feel even less of man that they already feel they are. He hates the geeks, his geeky characters either are annoying little shitheads that gets no respect, or man up and become alpha males. Good, fuck the beta males. This is the only reason why geeks don't like his movies. It's certainly not incoherent plotlines and chaotic action scenes, because compare to some of the films that geeks love (Bourne films), they seem almost serene and tightly structured.
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And I have seen test footage of transformers in 3D. It is pretty rad. Of course, conversion footage and shooting for 3D each have their advantages. Anyway, I've never gone to see Transformers for the story. I go for the VFX. There was one second of footage that took over 30 DAYS TO RENDER. Did you get that? 30 days to render 4k footage. Unbelievable.
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NOT TRUE. I doubt you happened to check out GeForce, but when Alice comes out, a great deal of that footage was converted. Not only does it look JUST AS ACCURATE (when done properly) you eliminate a lot of Left/Right stereo discrepancies, like lens flairs, light reflections, and fall off. Light reflections look normal when you tune them out in real life, but when you're forced to view certain depths and concentrate on certain objects, they look kinda funny. :-D
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but ultimately, it's still a pig. As long as Bay is in charge we are going to continue to get juvenile humor, lousy acting and movie devoid of any soul. Bring on the 3D suckage Bay.
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Perfection doesn't need sequels.
Fuuuuuuu...
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He's already worse than the 2D one !
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Hey, if Jay Leno was capable of doing what they did, and Wall Street got REWARDED for ruining the economy, what's stopping the Duke of Douchebag for taking ONE FINAL PISS on the greatest superhero story of all time ?!?!?
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make a good movie, plain and simple
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I watch the venum spat back and forth, but i really enjoyed both of them. granted they were fast pace and over the top but they were hardly the rancid pieces of shit people reading this site would be lead to believe. that said, if the next film is going to be 3-D then my only hope is that the edits last a little longer than 2 seconds. i also hope megan fox dies a horrible horrible on screen death
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Damn You Michael Bay
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I don't get it avatar kills the box office- and now everyone is converting 2d films... Not filming them in 3d. It's not the same. Not at all!!!!
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In JackSlaters defense he was talking about domestic box office, but yes, in worldwide box office Cameron absolutely destroys the competition. Good movies get rewarded around, bottome line.
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There was only one scene where the gimmick (something thrown at you) was used, it was when the tear gas was shot into the hometree and yes, i intinctively jolted to the left to get out of the way. this to me say "Well done mr. Cameron, well done!"
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Dunno if you were watching the same movies, but the editing for both films weren't all that quick. Typical shot last between 5-7 seconds, even in the most chaotic scenes. That's forever in action editing. Bay is one of the few directors left that actually do not butcher the hell out of his action films. They probably seem quick because of the way he frames and shoots.
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i havent vomited in a theater in a while so heres hoping this will be it!
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hes a fast framer!
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...is the fact that the first two were shite.Oh, and Megan Fox is a skank. Sorry kids, but there it is.
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Megan Fox deserves to be in 3-D
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Dinobots will suck. Why? Because Bay will completely fuck them up. Your childhood will be finally and completely raped and destroyed. It will be like being ganged raped in Saudi Arabia, where you get a 90 lashing reminder after the fact that you don't matter. Unicron will suck, Optimus will be jack the ripper the robot and Megatron and Starscream will have two lines of gold and then complete crap for the rest of movie. Plenty of racial stereo types. On top of that you'll get Shia and Megan in 3d for 3 boring hours. Fucking joyous hilarity sing me song or something. Not a fucking cent Holywood! You can film it in 3d, 2d, 1d, Pornovision, Smell-o-vision, Rappers, Metallica, whatever you want to thrown in there... not one fucking cent out of my wallet unless this talkback forum is singing fucking praises about Transformers 3d two weeks after it opens.
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moron
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moron
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I hear you man. These nerds need to learn that town/city centres are FULL of women hotter than that orange tramp. Just go to places that sell clothes and shoes. You see lots of pussy.
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i want more than a maxim spread on screen...i want pink...and more toe thumbs also!
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Be still my beating stomach
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Humanity is doomed for sure in 2012
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Feb 04, 2010 3:31:59 AM CST
it's fucked up that 2010 inflation figures for revenge of the si
by thejudger
has it earning an extra 71 million dollars. That is more money then most films see in an entire run. In less than 5 years we are paying 20% more money to see a movie, and seeing as much as 15 minutes of fucking comercials before the film starts. WTF?!?!? Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111
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$533,345,358 is what it made domestic- ajusted it would make $565,286,600
That's nearly 32 million dollars!!!! That is bearly 2 fucking years ago man! Hollywood is raping people on ticket prices.... And your cinemas are raping your time with the fucking 15 minutes of ads for phones fandango coke and cars. These adds don't lessen the price of your tickets, or the cost of your food or drinks. If I remember right drinks and food cost more now too. Fuck. -
I love it when directors go on the record, turning their noses up at 3D saying that its gimmicky etc. Then the studio forces 3D on them and they then have to backtrack what they already said. Hilarious! I wonder how Mick Bay wiggles his way out of this one. Ha! (Btw I think both TF movie were terrible, but TF2 took ADHD movies to a spectacular low) I won’t be seeing TF3 3D anyway. (might torrent it out of curiosity though).
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hmm so just because its number 3 it has to be in 3d... so does that mean number 4 will be in 4d??? what does 4d mean some sort of time travel tecnology embedding into each screenprint?? ... ohh i can't wait!!!
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I won't comment on the obvious lack of characterization or massive plot holes or incoherent storytelling in both "Transformers" movies, only the action scenes. Michael Bay frames action scenes in tight close-ups and uses unmotivated line crossing to help sell the frenetic pace and 'enhance the feeling of danger'. He shakes the camera so violently that at times you can't see who is in frame for longer than 2 seconds. It's jarring and confusing. It also doesn't help that the robots look too similar in his movies and there is simply no suspense in his action set-ups. It's all about the pretty lighting, 'scope photography and explosions.The difference between Bay and Paul Greengrass is not only the pacing, but even with Greengrass's 'shakey-cam' it's pretty clear what's going on in the frame. The viewer is completely aware of the environment that Jason Bourne is in and the fast pace works for the intimacy of hand-to-hand combat scenes.I think "Casino Royale" has some of the best stylized action scenes in recent memory and unfortunately nothing in Michael Bay's "Transformer" movies even approaches that level of clarity. He just can't seem to set up a scene that makes the audience feel the characters are in jeopardy — mainly because of his staging and focus on explosions. The photography is gorgeous and the VFX are sublime in those movies, but those elements are so overwrought that they actually take away from the drama he's trying to present (it would also help if we cared about the characters, but that's a plot/dialogue issue).
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Debate.
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Now all they seem to care about is effects, effects, effects......any old story will do as long as it looks expensive and flashy.
They might as well just scrap any pretence of story or characterization and just show the fucking FX reel. The brain-dead audience will slap their flippers together, lower running time means more daily showings and the bare minimum of effort saves the studio money.
Film making will become a dying art. Fuck decent characters or interesting stories, make sure there's enough lens flare glinting off that robot's shiny ass-crack. -
its no star wars at all.
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Because his movies aren't motion-sickness enducing enough already!! But maybe this is for the best, Bay will make a movie that will be so bad to watch, even the GAYS FOR BAY will finally unbderstand what a piece of shit "filmmaker" he really is. Nothing like an hammer to the head to make the wake up call.
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...was OK. Revenge was the biggest pile of cr@p ever. I was "Bay Apologist" but I have no hope for 3. And in 3D even less so... Migraine anybody?
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Avatar was too clean. TF2 is gritty and grainy and raw. Avatar is the most generic story archetype. TF2 is avant-garde filmmaking. No one has a better eye than Michael Bay. He's a fuckin' genius. Eat cum.
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Y'know, it's going to be fun watching I LOVE THE '10s on VH-1 in the year 2025 just to hear some little-known comedian say "3-D movies?! What the hell were you thinking, America?!"
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nuff said...
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Avatar looked awesome in 3-D and I look forward to seeing some movies in 3-D but the fact that everything is going to be 3-D now is a fad. It wont last. Same with 3-D at home, very few peope are gonna want to where glasses in there house to watch movies.
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... as fecal matter is to shrimp cocktail.
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... come up with to justify they love for complete retard shit.
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Why we hate Bay's Transformers? Because it's horrible beyond belief. Simple answer, isn't it? Nothing too complicated about it.
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Feb 04, 2010 11:47:23 AM CST
TF2: Better than that time a wasp stung me in the ear.
by colonelfatheart
No, not really.
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Without two images shot from slightly different angles to mimic what the eyes see, how can post conversion 3D replicate something which will look anything like real-world 3D? I see how a layered affect might be achieved by shifting parts of each image, but convincing and accurate 3D done in post sounds unlikely in live action.
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..I would pay twice the admission fee to see that.
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Forgot about that one Asi, and how appropiate for those cunts that would defend this garbage with a straight face.Fucking unbelievable..
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The politically correct term is "Palin," as in, "TF3 in 3-D sounds completely Palin."
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I can not believe it but it has an asian fembot saying me so horny me love you looong time, and robot turds that are ball bearings
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Then he will be able to add the smell of shit to his on-screen 3D crapfest.
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It's as if Michael Bay wants people to hate him. It's not gonna be shot in 3-D but done afterwards!!! So retarded.
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Those robots are CG... very easy to make 3D after the movie is done with
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Michael Palin is far from retarded. I'm sure BiggusDickus agrees.
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Multiple M Night and M Bay threads to post to. Too bad that both Directors bore the hell out of me. (I'm sure I'd bore the hell out of them too.)
All we need now is something about STAR TREK and INDIANA JONES. -
I wish they hadn't, cause then it'd come out tomorrow, and MGM would be out of financial debt.
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Greengrass's action scenes are coherent? Please! He cuts quick, and shakes his camera even more violently. His subjects aren't even the focus. It simulates nothing except nausea. Bay's camera actually has a purpose. He doesn't shake it when it doesn't call for it. Both Transformers film's framing actually has a purpose. He shoots the first Transformers film as if he's shooting a monster film. All the transformers were from the perspective of human. Almost every single shot has human in them, and actually simulate quite successfully the scale of the transformers. The second one he pulls back the camera, and cuts even more serenely. It may not be your cup of tea, and that's fine. But saying Greengrass shoots and edits better than Michael Bay is simply idiotic. Greengrass may have a more serious approach to thrillers and storytelling, but his action scenes are childishly shot and idiotically edited.
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Feb 04, 2010 11:36:09 PM CST
Anyone who does that "noooooo" shit that stretches out the scree
by nasty in the pasty
should be SHOT
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3D *IS* a cheap gimmick...in the hands of people like you...who no doubt will fill your 3D movie with boulders and debris flying out of the screen at us. *That* kind of 3D is gimmicky. We don't need that shit. All we expect from 3D is to be able to 'see into' the film with more depth. So don't bother guy, because subtly isn't really your forte. Being a guy from the 80s trapped in the year 2010...THAT's your forte. Michael Bay is Patrick Bateman, only less interesting.
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the emotion is what's primary about the action scenes. Some ARE incoherent, I'll agree to that, but the sense of urgency and brutality (look at "The Bourne Supremacy") is the point of Greengrass's action scenes.I would agree with you about some of Bay's scenes but, then he'll put unnecessary tracking shots, technocrane shots in addition to his quick cuts (not as fast as Greengrass) and that pulls the audience out of the scene. He DOES get the scale of the robots in shots but, to what effect? Bay just isn't strong at staging action scenes because of the lack of tension. Compare him to Ridley Scott, or Michael Mann and his approach simply falls apart.
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Nolan Batman 3. Can we get something? Anything at all? C'mon, Knowles!
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I agree with you to a certain point regarding his action scenes in Transformers 1 & 2. Those scenes aren't so much about tension as they are about spectacles. A bunch of transforming robots duking it out is hardly like the a finely tuned Mann shoot out. It's the same way A John Woo is shoot out is more about rhythm and dance than it is about tension. But if you watch the older Bay films like The Rock and Bad Boys 1 (and to a certain point 2), they were thrilling and full of tension. But that is kinda moot, since Bay is not about tension. Bayhem will never be as tightly choreographed and suspenseful as a Mann or Frankenheimer scene. But neither those guys can do scale and spectacles like Bay. Sometimes that's what hits the spots. But Like I said, Bay's shit will not please everyone. I know guys who takes a lot pleasure in archery. Me, I just prefer shooting the crap out of targets with my M1911. To each his own, just don't condescend to what others take pleasure in. That's a problem with aintitcool. It tries to pass itself off as a progressive film website, an alternative view on films that is unlike the elitist film critics out there. But the people's tastes on here is about as progressive as Soccer moms', and just about as tolerant.
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Except Pearl Harbor, which is worth TWO buckets of shit.
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Deep down, even they know they are fighting a losing battle. As it would. They just bet on the wrong horse all this years, and it's a hard pill to swallow, such realization. So, like the dying fish, they still kick around fighting for a last breath, but it's just the last twitches of the dead.
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I resent the use of the word Palin to describe retards, on account of Michael Palin. Show some goddam respect, will you?
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... putting down Paul greengrass in their defense of Bay's ineptitude at filmmaking!! If anything, in Greengrass's movies, you can tell exactly what is happening, even with the shaky-o-cam. Never in a greengrass movie i felt disoriented and not known what was going on. The action was always clear to me in a Greengrass movie. In a Bay's movie, it's just scatered shots with little regard to geography all thrown together with super-quick cuts to disguise the bullshit and the ineptitude.I onc eread an old post from another Gay For Bay, about The Island, where he was attacking Martin Scorsese for defending Bay. The Gays for Bay can be pretty tacky... and dumb!
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Glad to make you laugh. I aim to please.
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Just like the rest of the writers of this site. They also own T4. you know this to be true!!
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And you forgot to mention their ultimate gay love: JJ "I Don't Give a Shit About Star Trek" Abrams' Star Teen Trek.
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It's easy for producers to look at avatar and think that 3d is all that was to the movies succes. And alot of ppl here seems to be making that same mistake. Avatar in 2d is still a very enjoyable movie. But maybe people should consider if theres more to the movies succes. I mean it WAS directed by Cameron who has time and time again proved that he he can deliver even when faced with difficult odds.
Avatar is an 'original' story not based on a toyline a computergame, book, superhero, brandname or some other "hook" to the audience. For some reason it has been the sick logic of Hollywood that this was the only way to the moviegoers wallets. In this sense avatar is truly a game changer.
Avatar is Fantasy/Scifi and shows the audience something they havent seen before. It's escapisme in its truest form. Dont underestimate that shit.
Avatar is a mainstream movie that captures people attention even without *gasp* pandering to kids in an insulting manner to the rest of the audience (like T1/T2)- what a shocking concept that this can work!
Hollywood: Take notes from Avatar and change your game. Getting hacks to make movies in 3d will not be the answer. -
Tall words for someone who complained about being disoriented watching a Paul Greengrass. you know, the guy who is so good making movies he can use shaky-cam and still make sense what's going on. Fuck's sake, if you are going all Gay For Bay, you better not try to trash much better directors to support shitty ones. And yes, Bay«s action in his movies are disorienting. Because he's so shity at what he does, he had absolutly no notion of space relation and fluidity of action and the relationship of the subjects to their enviroment and each other. If people are dioriented in a Bay movie, as they would, it's because the fucker can't film for shit. If you think you can, it's only you filling in the gaps and imagining a coherence that's not there. Got that?
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Indeed. You said it, brother.
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I don't really know if Bay is actually racist, given that all it takes is an occasional moment of candor or a pattern of honestly portraying racial minorities in movies for someone to be labelled as such - have any of you crying foul ever actually met a black person? Every black friend I have, without exception, finds Skids and Mudflap hilarious. I'm not exaggerating. And if you think such portrayals have no place in a Transformers movie and complaints about the characters as a legitimate TF fan, get out your DVD of More than Meets the Eye - G1, 1984. You will notice a character by the name of Jazz. Also observe the cadence and patterns of his speech. I rest my case. Since day 1, Autobot have picked up on different aspects earth culture and sought to emulate it. They are not black or white, they are alien robots emulating human archetypes.
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