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Spock 2.0 to belt out Gershwin tunes in Spielberg's Biopic?
Hey folks, Harry here... and before you get crazy, mad excited or angry, please note that this is only 1 of 3 projects that Mike Fleming's Deadline column says Spielberg is contemplating pursuing next. And Steven is Steven... he could, NOT, do any of those and instead mount a Live-Alien SpaceCast remake of CASABLANCA as far as any of us know...
But Mike is reporting that Zachary Quinto - everyone's fave super-powered serial killer / green-blooded pointy-eared bastard - is up to play the lead role of George Gershwin. You may know Gershwin from your grandparent's radio station, Scorsese's AVIATOR, AMERICAN SPLENDOR or L.A. CONFIDENTIAL... or the brilliant MAN OF THE CENTURY. But my fave films with Gershwin's magic are films from his era like: this year's BNAT sensation, GIRL CRAZY with Mickey Rooney & Judy Garland. Every song in it was a Gershwin tune. Or the great Astair & Rogers flick, SHALL WE DANCE or the great BROADWAY RHYTHM or RHAPSODY IN BLUE!
George Gershwin was a force of musical genius for the short time he was with us - and his story is immensely cinematic and musical. And honestly - I would love nothing more than to see Spielberg kick it with a great musical. But we'll have to wait and see, won't we.
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You "would love nothing more than to see Spielberg kick it with a great musical"? Really? There is nothing you would love more than that?
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We've waited too long!
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He's too busy playing "Avatar" now. I mean, why do better movies when you can just buy a fucking load of technology, charge extra bucks for rentnig a 3D plastic goggles, and profit two billion dollars even if you have the #20 biggest SEAT seller in Hollywood. Spielberg said "FUCK YOU" to classic movie making eyars ago.
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Would be another no-risk project for Spielberg. Is the man ever going to something *substantial*?
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...instead of following his buddy Lucas and making video games? When his movies had practical effects and weren't bloated with CGI? When they had heart and cool instead of being obvious Oscar bait? I would love nothing more than to see the Spielberg of old return...fun, geeky movies with no superstar leads and a shit-ton of imagination. And at this point, genre be damned.
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"And Steven is Steven... he could, NOT, do any of those and instead mount a Live-Alien SpaceCast remake of CASABLANCA as far as any of us know... "
Harry, you're an illiterate tit. -
first LUCAS, now SPIELBERG. have they been replaced by pod people from a gay planet?
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...it was the script and the odd, milky cinematography that killed it. War of the Worlds was well-directed. He's still got it. Someone hand him a great script and a good John Williams score.
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Spielberg should direct "Interstellar", not yet another crappy no-risk project. But I guess he won't because he doesn't want the audiences to find out that he hasn't got what it takes to be a real filmmaker again. Dan Akroyd was very prophetic, when he called Spielberg an "artist industrialist" at the AFI ceremony in 1995. Gershwin (like Lincoln) would be just another industrial Spielberg-product. Spielberg's a corpse.
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trained everyday, either swimming or boxing. He was *way* ahead of his time. Died young, too, of brain cancer at age 38.
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Jan 31, 2010 8:52:58 PM CST
SPIELBERG SHOULD DO A MICHAEL JACKSON BIOPIC WITH CHILD RAPE IN
by tehcreepythinman
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Can fan boys realize that your directors of yesteryear belong in yesteryear? they are done... but we do got Nolan to pick up the slack
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Where's the Lincoln movie? How many movies is this guy going to be attached to that never end up being made?
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He gargles Gershwin
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Do Lincoln and Interstellar. Actually, don't, because I don't want to see your boyfriend Shity LaBeef as Andrew Johnson and a Black Hole screeching "No no no no no no no" as it swallows a spaceship piloted by Tom Cruise and promptly collapses in on itself (before getting thrown out of Intergalactic Walgreens)!
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What the HELL, Speilberg?!?!
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one mind
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Who gets their eyebrows done ARE gay... plus he did play the gay friend in a Tori Spelling show... wow, i think im gay for knowin that... shit...
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Speilberg would instead decide to do a film that was... entertaining.
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I'd like to see Spielberg tackle a full on, old school musical.
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in my opinion is the opening to Manhattan
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Yup. Steven has only made films with musical moments... and when you think of Spielberg - many of the key moments in his films were set perfectly to the music accompanying the images. WELL.. a lot of that we credit to John Williams, as we should, but there's no denying that Spielberg has a rather astonishing sense of image and music, better than just about everyone.
The MUSICAL GENRE is one of my faves. The first film I developed at REVOLUTION was very much a musical. Sadly, REVOLUTION went under right as we were on the verge. Still my fave script I've had a part in.
I believe every great director should have a go at the Musical Genre. I'm glad Lucas seems to be having a go at an effects driven musical next. And Spielberg working on this would be something I haven't seen from him. -
declaring our greatest filmmaker artistically dead, yet can't even spell his name. It's "Spielberg", not "Speilberg" you illiterate idiots.
But it kills me that Spielberg's only real misfire in the 2000's was Indy 4, yet people will forget "Minority Report", "Munich" "Catch Me If You Can" and "A.I" (which, as I predicted when it came out), would be considered one of the greatest films of the decade. All great films. Until he does 3 more Indy 4's, Spielberg could shoot the phone book for all I care and I'll be there opening weekend. -
Retire already. Tired of hearing his name linked with everything.
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declaring our greatest filmmaker artistically dead, yet can't even spell his name. It's "Spielberg", not "Speilberg" you illiterate idiots. But it kills me that Spielberg's only real misfire in the 2000's was Indy 4, yet people will forget "Minority Report", "Munich" "Catch Me If You Can" and "A.I" (which, as I predicted when it came out, would be considered one of the greatest films of the decade). All great films. Until he does 3 more Indy 4's, Spielberg could shoot the phone book for all I care and I'll be there opening weekend.
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Scorsese. Not Senior Spielbergo.
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So Indy 4 was a misfire? Check. But what was Minority Report? Great idea, but eventually boring, not engaging. Munich? Soft instead of radical. Wasted opportunity. Catch Me if You Can? Unimportant, mundane, like Terminal (except for the ending). War of the Worlds? Failure. All the films Spielberg has done since the 90s were no-risk projects, always on the safe side, not hurting anyone, not daring anything. The only thing that he did accomplish was AI, which is of course not a Spielberg, but a Spielberg/Kubrick-film, one of the greatest films ever. But that's it. It was Kubrick's idea, Kubrick's daring. Spielberg only rode the wave. Spielberg on his own is a corpse. But he's was a wunderkind, so he might resurrect again. But he needs to stop being an industrialist. It's not working.
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Spielberg takes plenty of risks. He makes what he wants to make. One day he'll do a popcorn flick like Indy, and the next he'll do Munich. And frankly, I think he has earned that right.I can't believe the fucking idiots who claim to be film geeks who spit and Spielberg of all people.
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Switching genres is not a risk. Being only Spielberg is not a risk.
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do you read your posts?? i had to reread it about 5 times to figure out what the hell you were trying to say.
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Manhattan is Woody Allen's best film (IMO). Gordon Willis' cinematography is magnificent. Some of the best black & white ever shot. Most of the scenes are done in master shots with little to no coverage. Gershwin's music has never been used to better effect in a movie (biopics aside). Manhattan should be first on a list of great films that have used Gershwin's music.
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and what was wrong with WAR OF THE WORLDS?
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A film that (as I recall) got him in trouble with Israel because it dared to consider looking at things from both sides.
Minority Report is Spielberg's best in the 2000's. Awesome thriller with kick-ass visuals (and a stylistic departure).
The Terminal was a nice safe comedy (still works, but not worthy of Spielberg)
Catch Me If You Can also represented a departure of sorts for Spielberg and DiCaprio gave a tour-de-force performance. It's also a great study of human nature and the principles of influence.
A.I. started as Kubrick's, but was written completely by Spielberg. If anything, it shows major balls for a filmmaker to take on the project of such a revered filmmaker after his death. A.I is also 1000000 better then Eyes Wide Shut. But that's another story...
War Of The Worlds is an awesome alien invasion pic. The idea of telling the story from Cruise's point of view: brilliant. The first 30 minutes should be studied in film school for how to build suspense while designing strikingly composed shots.
And while Indy 4 was a misfire (a decent adventure flick, but nothing compared to the original trilogy), it did have THE best shot of 2008: Indy's reveal (picking up the hat on the floor).
And while I agree that Scorsese, overall, has had the better career in the 2000's, he doesn't have Raiders Of The Lost Ark to his resume. Goodfellas is close, though. Spielberg also has more iconic movies to his resume (Jaws, ET, Jurassic Park, CETK, Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan, The Indy Trilogy... come on...) -
Harry, how about you do a DVD column? This is ridiculous. Some people like to see your opinion before they shell out $25 dollars for a DVD and your just letting them down. Thanks buddy!
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Kaminski has done for superb work for Spielberg's "gritty" pictures (Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan, Munich), but his harsh, blown-out backlighting was all wrong for "light" efforts like Catch Me If You Can, The Terminal, and especially Indiana Jones 4. Why can't he call up Allen Daviau or Dean Cundey again one of these days?
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i didnt think so. http://tinyurl.com/o36d5
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Jan 31, 2010 10:17:31 PM CST
And Temple Of Doom's opening "Anything Goes" number...
by nasty in the pasty
...proves that Spielberg could do a kick-ass musical.
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Why not Chopin, Schubert, Tchaikovsky, Verdi, Wagner, Schumann, Brahms, Bach, or Handel? These guys were far more influential than Gershwin ever was.
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In book form at least, by Larry Nivin.
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Jan 31, 2010 11:10:26 PM CST
Nasty In The Pasty, KAMINSKI IS A TERRIBLE DP!!!FACT!!!
by tehcreepythinman
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Ha, you can't make a Gershwin movie because superunknown85 thinks a couple of other other composers he heard of in a Monty Python song were more "influential"? Christ, sometimes... I love you guys.
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well for my money, Kaminski is a solid DP and doesn't deserve the ire of anyone for his participation is their collaboration. Honestly, the only worth while foray Spielberg has made in the last decade was "Munich", everything else was watered down kool aid!
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but as SPOCK, he was a major poser.
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EYES WIDE SHUT IS ONE OF THE GREATEST FILMS OF ALL TIME!!!!!! A FILM SO LAYERED IT COULD TAKE A MILLION VIEWINGS TO EVEN BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THE FILM IS TRYING TO CONVEY. I SUGGEST YOU, WATCH IT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. IT'S A FILM TO STUDY. IM SO FUCKING SICK OF HEARING PEOPLE BITCH ABOUT EYES WIDE SHUT. THE FILM IS SO MUCH A MASTERWORK IT'S HARD FOR ANYONE TO WRAP THERE MINDS AROUND IT SO THEY IMMEDIATELY DISMISS IT. SORRY YOUR ALL COMPLETELY WRONG.
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...twice in theaters, twice on DVD (which I bought), and once in Blu-Ray (uncut version). Sorry, I think this is Kubrick's weakest film. I'm okay with layering your film with as much meaning as you want, as long as the story-telling is captivating.
Kubrick's always been a great storyteller (even with the most simple stories like 2001), but some scenes in Eyes Wide Shut betray how "rusty" he was after 12 years of absence behind the camera (see the horrendous, badly written and overacted "explanation" scene with Pollack - which kinda goes against your assumption this film has a lot of "hidden meaning").
This movie is gorgeous to look at and some scenes are pitch perfect (the first 30 minutes), but Spielberg's weakest movie this decade is better than this,
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Minority Report (which Variety's review suggests rightfully). Except it's even better than if Kubrick had directed it. It's as if Kubrick, Cameron, Lucas and Hitchcock decided to combine forces on one movie, Absolutely one of the best movies of its decade.
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but both are irrelevant when you look at the rest of his catalog. Clockwork, Strangelove, Spartacus, Paths of Glory, The Shining...all better than those 2. Also just listing those made me look at the above Spielberg list and think that Kubrick is liquor and Spielberg is beer. I like both and probably drink more beer but there is NOTHING like a nice whiskey on ice.I have also never seen so many nerds clamour for a Lincoln film. WTF. Gershwin? Really? Who gives a shit about this?
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Munich was daring in concept but fell apart in the last 1/3.Minority Report was good but I re-watched it awhile back and the CG was cringeworthy. When Cruise is jumping on the cars going up the building looked like utter shit.LETS NOT FORGET THE PRODUCING! Transformers
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could be his chance. bet Liam Neeson is pissed. didn't he do a junk load of research for Lincoln?
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BTW, I think most film geeks would know Gershwin from the opening montage of "Manhattan".
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He just keeps belting them out. And its because theyre made in such an industrial and clinical manner that while they may be "competent" theres nothing special about them. And thats whats lacking. For the last 10 years stevens made films that dont look like theyre steven spielberg movies. With none of the magic or energy. Theyre just perfectly efficient and good. But they aint masterepieces and after saving private ryan, schindlers list, jurassic park, jaws, indy we expect masterpieces
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I kept waiting for him to cut open someone's head with his finger
I know that's lame, but there it is...
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pI believe every great director should have a go at the Musical Genre. I'm glad Lucas seems to be having a go at an effects driven musical next. And Spielberg working on this would be something I haven't seen from him.
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would be so much better!!
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Haven't liked him in anything yet. His recent Star Trek comments strike me as elitist...he should embrace the role that made him famous not seperate himself from it. He acts like he did 3 movies, when he did one. It's like if Sam Worthington said, I'm gonna distance myself and not talk about Avatar for 2 years. Stupid. Your fans don't give a fuck about what you want!
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Those will pull in the crowds, especially after the shitfest CRYSTAL SKULL.
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Harry, I think you could have just told us Spielberg wants to do a biopic instead of leaving us to wonder if Sylar would just play Gershwin in some other historical drama or whatnot.
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Not Indy 5? That black hole sci-fi film? That Abraham Lincoln biopic? That spy novel adaptation? etc etc... OldBoy and Harvey dead. What next?
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Sure, the opening sequence is a tour-de-force but the rest of the movie? Pah. And news just in... we're all dying.
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and it's ending one minute at a time.
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But anyone that thinks it was badly directed knows nothing about filmmaking. Please think before you speak, or in this case, type.
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It would be nice to see if Quinto can actually act, outside of staring murderously at people and pretendign to be Leonard Nimoy.
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A Canadian radio host said it best when she declared that "If New York had to be given a voice, Gershwin would be the one to do it."
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why cant that jew make up his mind???????? one word for you Spielberg, STARGATE.
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he said that somewhere, he thinks straight about one movie when he switches focus on another. its a strength but also a weakness type of thing, coz its probably why his endings suck so much, the guy just loses interest
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What was he thinking in associating with that hack ass Bay? The Transformers films could been good, even great, if he had given them to someone else. He also gave Bay The Island (not a real island, the movie doh) which had a great script but was completely fucked in the hands of Bay. I'm thinking that either Bay has compromising photos of Spielberg, or he's Spielberg's secret love child.
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What the fuck ...
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I think you can blame Jerry Bruckheimer for that one.
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Feb 01, 2010 7:56:27 AM CST
Spielberg has lost his audience to Cameron and Jackson
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
Avatar provided all the wonder and magic that Spielberg and Lucas movies did in the 80's - as did LOTR. Spielberg doesn't have the clout he once did - creatively speaking, not financially or industry power-wise. His name has been tarnished by too many lazy outings and half-baked misfires, and the announcements of his projects are now met with a shrug of indifference rather than the rapturous excitement and anticipation of old. Hopefully Interstellar can redress the balance. But in truth, I'm far more excited to see what Cameron, PJ, or even Christopher Nolan, cook up next.
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A Gershwin Musical! Finally! Since we caught a glimpse of its potential in "Mr. Holland's Opus," and Speilberg's drive to do a big musical number with the opening on "Temple of Doom" this could be the biggest musical since "Chicago."
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...but whatever he does next, I'll be interested to see. Y'know, Hitchcock stumbled a bit in the 60's before bouncing back with Frenzy. And while I wouldn't make a case for any of his films of the past decade matching his output leading up to Private Ryan, he has still made some prety good movies in the last 10 years. And say what you will about him being choosy, but I think he has done more films in the past 10 years than Cameron, Jackson, or Tarantino have done in their enire careers.
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Think about it. He has directed nearly 30 features? There's no question he's lost touch with his audience, but with that many films under his belt he's bound to have more misses than hits. Now Cameron has only directed 8 movies (7 if you discount Pirahna 2). So the chances of him bombing are far lesser. Cameron picks his battles carefully, whereas Spielberg always has several projects on the go and directs dodgy material (like The Terminal). That's the difference.
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I hated War of the Worlds (to be fair, writing had a lot to do with that, but it was sub-par for Spielberg) and thought A.I. was atrocious, and I still do. I hate that film. Yet I love much of Spielberg's work. E.T. was a masterwork of direction, whatever you want to say about the film. One of my favorite films of all time is Spielberg's comedy "flop", 1941. Watch 'Always', and thought Dreyfuss may be miscast as a daredevil arial firefighter, the direction, the pacing, the cinematography, the editing--it just works, and works beautifully. Watch the shots and the blocking in that film and then compare it to War of the Worlds, and Always is definitely greater than War of the Worlds. Compare War or A.I. with Schindler's List. Night and day. Just sayin'.I'd love a musical from Spielberg with the sort of sensibility (pacing, blocking, choreography) of the opening sequence of Temple of Doom, I just don't know that he has it.
I enjoyed Kingdom of the Crystal Skull--it was modest fun--but if you compare the construction of the movie (writing + direction + editing + cinematography + editing + soundtrack) to Raiders, it just ain't in the same league at all.
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I bet if Cruise wasn't in it, you kids would have ate it up.
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It's just that he has a very distinct look that doesn't work for every project and every film since "Private Ryan" has had the same look, except "Crystal Skull," which looked like it was shot by someone affecting a style they really didn't like. Dean Cundey's been slumming it lately, why not give him a ring? Also, "A.I." has grown on me, "Minority Report" loses momentum half-way through, "Munich" is fine except for a ridiculous slow motion sex-scene, "Catch Me If You Can" and "The Terminal" are the same movie, and "War of the Worlds" doesn't hold up at all to repeat viewings. As a producer, Spielberg can fuck himself for what he did to "Transformers" by bringing Michael Bay on and then apparently exercising no clear oversight. Maybe Don Simpson was the one that kept Bay in line because "Bad Boys" and "The Rock" are both solid.
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Most (not all) of Spielberg's greatest movies are no risk. ET, Jaws, Jurassic Park, Indiana Jones 1-3, etc. Why do we give him hell for doing "no risk" movies, when that's what we love most about him? Even Pvt Ryan was essentially no-risk. A pro-America WWII movie starring the most popular actor of our generation? Not much risk there. Give the Beard a break. He's not Steven Soderbergh, and he's never claimed to be.
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Feb 01, 2010 10:25:03 AM CST
And here I thought the subject line meant that Spielberg . . .
by royston lodge
. . . was making a biopic about Dr. Benjamin Spock.
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Feb 01, 2010 10:28:33 AM CST
"every great director should have a go...I'm glad Lucas seems...
by bah
So, every great director and Lucas.
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..however he gave Bay creative control which led to him fucking up both Transformers movies.Stevie's other flaw was of course Indy IV. It's like Schumacher's Batman of The Raiders series.
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Zachary Quinto's take on Hamlet. I'm not kidding.
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There's one scene in that movie where Cruise and his son are running from a big-ass battle - but the viewer doesn't actually see the battle. Our view is obscured by a berm of earth. All we see is the glow from the explosions and we hear the explosions as well. The son wants to turn back for a second and look over the berm to get a view of the battle. Cruise stops him and says something like, "you don't need to see it to know it's there."
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War of the worlds is my favourite book of ALL TIME and it just hasnt been done justice on film. Spielberg, to his credit, did bring it the closest it has ever been. but the original 1800's book by HG Wells is something which could very well be made into a 3 and a half hour epic of true cinematic scope. ive read it 3 times now and im going to read it again this year sometime. There's something about the way that book chills me that i dream will one day be put to film the way it diserves to be.
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All those giant tripods were buried underground for thousands of years all over the world, and they were never dug up or detected by geo physical equipment? That's beyond retarded. It was a good film, but Koepp threw in some clangers.
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Feb 01, 2010 1:48:18 PM CST
I want the cast of the State to do Lincoln Logs: The Movie!!!
by tomwaitsisgod
The True Story of Honest Abe!! "I don't care about this country! All I care about is sex, and booze, and pills! DAMN THIS COUNTRY! AND EVERYONE IN IT!!!" "...M-Mister president?" "John Wilkes Booth! I'll kill you for what you've seen here! KILL YOU I SAY!!! MWAHAHAHAHA!"
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Yeah, it was stupid and illogical. But The Beard was in fine form, and I really couldn't give a shit. He pulled it off. It was genuinely thrilling filmmaking. I must say that I'm encouraged by Spielberg's desire to take on stuff outside of his box, even though I'd rather have INTERSTELLAR than this. Still, I'll check it out. He's made a lot of movies, and big ones at that, considering the rate of output these days (Ford and Hitchcock churned 'em out), so I'll forgive him the occasional clunker. Just because he's not making RAIDERS or JAWS anymore (honestly, I don't think he wants to) doesn't mean we should ignore his work.
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And Steven is Steven... he could, NOT, do any of those and instead mount a Live-Alien SpaceCast remake of CASABLANCA as far as any of us know...
geeze oh pete, grammar check your shit before you post.
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I can't help being totally enthralled by "Someone To Watch Over Me". Sure, it's kinda corny, but hell, even this cynic can admire romance once in a while.
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That Spielberg gave such freedom to Bay to make whatever shit he wanted for the Transformers movie is as bad, if not worst, then the shit that Bay made. I guess Spielberg felt he should step on the shoes of another director, but it's Bay we are taking about. If ever a director needed someone to chain him to the ground and guide by force his hand, it's Bay. And Spielberg just let him rip lose. Didn't Spielberg ever watched a Bay movie before he hired him for Transformers? Didn't he knew what kind of beast he was dealing with?As for Indy 4, you description is quite apt, that movie is for the Indy franchise what Batman & Robin is for Batman's.
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Paul Thomas Anderson directing. Would be amazing.
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Bad Boys and The Rock are both horrible shit. They might not look so bad only in comparison to the worst shit that Bay made afterwards.Rumour has it that when Don Simpson watched the dailies from THE ROCK, he was so disgusted that he fired Bay's ass on the spot! But then Simpson died, and Bay was re-hired by Bruckheimer, and the rest is history. Bad fucking history!!
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Spielberg movies with no mention of Amistad. I know it was the late 90s but I've never wanted to cut open a vein in a movie theater more in my lifetime than at this movie.
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The Colonel here is predicting that STAR TREK will not be nominated for best picture tomorrow. Of course, I could be wrong. A lot of folks are predicting otherwise.
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Yes.
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This "Gay Shit" is only the story of one half of one of America's most important musical treasures. Ya don't like it, that's cool, just go jerk off to Disturbed or whatever it is little closeted faggots like you get off on.
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I love that Spiels doesn't show us the wide devastation like Emmerich or Bay would. Our view of the aliens' attack is limited to only that which the main Characters can see. So, during that scene you mentioned, we don't see the fight itself, only the army prepping and communicating and rolling fearless into battle. I love the shot of the helicopters flying in and launching missiles. It was Spielberg showing Americans what a war in your own backyard looks like, what it's like to be a refugee; something we are not familiar with at all.
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. . . almost entirely from the humans' approximate point-of-view. Not POV like Cloverfield, but with most of the shots from ground level to show how chaotic it would be to get stuck in the crossfire of a battle between giant fuckin' robots.
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I've often wondered aloud if that scene was a direct message from Spielberg to Lucas, considering that War of the Worlds and Revenge of the Sith both came out in 2005.
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can be more terrifying. Your mind fills in the blanks. Despite Koepp's dire script, WOTW is easily Spielberg's best film of the last ten years.
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Feb 01, 2010 4:52:09 PM CST
Actually Royston I think Bay DID shoot Transformers like that
by d.vader
I thought that was a major complaint of Transformers round here. He shot the action too close up and didn't go wide with the action enough. In fact, I think Bay did shoot the first Bumblebee/Barricade from the low viewpoint of a human (Shia) caught in the middle. Not as good as it could have been, or as you imagined, but I think that was Bay's intention.
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... I don't think I ever had any complaints about how the action was filmed. I just didn't care if any of the human characters lived or died. Perhaps that sort of cinematography only works if you care about the human characters. If you don't care about the humans, you might as well film the action from a higher angle so it's more like watching a sporting event.
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Feb 01, 2010 5:02:06 PM CST
The only problem with WotW is right in the source material.
by royston lodge
The way the story ends way-too-abruptly as the creatures succumb to earthly disease. It's so abrupt, and really makes you question their basic common sense.
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I did get the sense of chaos that would be finding yourself caught in the middle of a fight between giant robots. I think the problem is the fans wanted to see more of the robots, so it was maddening for them to not see the characters they wanted during the action.
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Feb 01, 2010 5:17:49 PM CST
I wonder if that strategy would have worked better . . .
by royston lodge
...if it wasn't guaranteed that the human characters would be fine-and-dandy by the end of the movie. If you actually had a sense that the main characters were ever in any real danger, that sort of cinematography would be more appropriate. But since we KNEW that Shia and The Fox would be fine at the end of the day, and living happily-ever-after to boot, who really cares about their point of view?
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Actually I think that's why Cloverfield works so well with that point of view, any one of those characters could die at any moment.
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Spielberg's best film of the last ten years... was "Minority Report", with an honorable mention to "Catch Me If You Can".
AI just plain sucked, The Terminal was pointless, WotW was boring, Munich was a great idea that collapsed under the weight of its' own commentary, and Indy IV was a complete misfire.
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1941, ring a bell?
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are you talkin Deano Martin musical Helm or serious? I'm guessing music cause of the topic..which would be interesting but who could do it. There are no Dean Martins out there. I hesitate to mention Justin Timberlake but that is basicly what the video for Bringing Sexy Back. Hey! You could get Zooey to sing in it too! Right BSB. So Justin Timberlake and Zooey in the new Matt Helm musical. Off you go Hollywood. See what I did there? This shit writes itself.
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I'm sure those dallies pissed Simpson off so much,it possibly contributed to his fatal heart attack.bay is such a fucking hackjob and Armedgeddon among so many of his other attrocities is more than enough proof.
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That movies biggest crime was that it was no where near as good as it could/should have been. Not to say it was bad - far from it. I just think coming from Speilberg expectations were not really met, as it could have been the film that harked back to his golden days, full of the wonder that he was so amazing at conveying. It had a couple of great scenes and some great shots, but overall just a "good" sci-fi film.
And A.I is nowhere close to being one of the greatest sci-fi films of the decade. Maybe of it's year...but decade? No. -
it was the first Speilberg film to not suck for a very, very long, long time (waaaay back beyond just a mere decade IMO)
and yeah WotW went downhill pretty much right after the tripods started disintegrating people
the aircraft scene nearly pulled it back but didn't quite make it- and that scene mentioned before - I didn't really notice because I was having such a hard time getting past the fact that Tom's kid WAS A FUCKING DOUCHEBAG
it's ok to have spoiled brat characters in your films but PLEASE guys just fucking dial it down just a whole fucking LOT ok!!
that fucking Smith kid in Day the Earth Stood Still was the same - it was all I could do to not throw something at the fucking screen! -
...as an actor of course. I'm sure he's a nice enough person. Just haven't dug him at all in Heroes (which I long ago gave up on and can't believe is even still on tv) or Trek (which I will no longer comment on). That being said, I'd actually like to see SS bust out with a musical. Maybe it would inspire him, get his creative juices flowing again. Because I really agree with the above posters comments about the last ten years of his work. I've been bashed for saying it, though; recently in fact. But whatever, I don't think his recent work holds up to his earlier work and getting bashed won't change that opinion. Also, whoever thinks material relating to the Gershwin's is gay needs to do some listening and reading. Well, just try some listening at least. Might be too much to ask people to actually read up on something before they express their ever so eloquent "gay" comments. George and Ira were geniuses and their work is part of the American fabric. It's really good stuff.
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1941 fucking rocks. I'm not even going to waste the time to come up with a more eloquent way of putting it. That 'flop' puts to shame most of the shit masquerading as comedies today.
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Been back to the tavern lately?
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In a strange way, yes, I have! Just did a re-read of the entire series as I finally purchased Sim's Collected Letters Vol 1 & 2.
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the only musical of recent years that fits Spielberg and his passions is RAGTIME: America, the Jewish experience, prejudice, the Black American experience, etc. etc. the Broadway adaptation of Doctorow's novel was awesome and the score is fantastic. with a huge multicultural cast and John Williams adapting the music--he couldn't go wrong.
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Did you know that Simpson died while he was on the shitter? And the book he was reading at the moment of his coronary? A biography of Oliver Stone. The reason why he was reading it, i suspect, was that Simpson might had entertained the idea of hiring him to direct ENEMY OF THE STATE, which eventually went to Tony Scott. ENEMY OF THE STATE was a baby of Simpson, one of his pet projects, which he had inherited from his break from his Bruckheimer partnership. but with his death, Bruckheimer made the movie anway, as a hommage to his former partner, so much so that the movie still credits itself as a "Simpson/Bruckheimer Production". Of course i can't prove any of this, but i suspect as much.
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I really think the movie is quite funny. People who say spielberg can't do comedy, i have to ask, and what about all those moments you laughted in his other movies? That's the work of a guy who can't make laughts? Like hell!
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People looked at the names, on the poster (Tim Matheson, John Belushi, Dan Aykroyd, and John Candy) and expected a World War II version of 'Animal House'.
What they got was a film that ended up being something else. A comedy, yes; but not the zany 'Delta House' misfits kind of comedy. Aykroyd and Matheson looked like they were trying to branch out a little bit; and for most of Belushi's screen time he didn't interact with anyone. People were caught off guard, by the final product they saw on screen. Much of that probably had to do, with the marketing of the film. -
Indeed.
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I just realized the only copy I've ever read was a shortened, "Readers Digest" style, "for kids" version.
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...I guess I shoulda made that clear.
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if his body was found on the Throne.But hey shit happens. (rim shot)Enemy of the State was good albiet somewhat forgettable in a sea of better films but the idea of Bay benefitting from Simpson's demise is a fucking travesty and may be further proof that there is no God. (figured you would like that one.)
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Exactly! And Asimov too - I think it was unexpected, and if I remember right from the dvd extras it wasn't marketed very well. At the time Speilberg was only producing popular sci-fi and adventure films and I think it's in people's nature to say "he can't do THAT!". Anyhoo, moment when Belushi and Ackroyd (who never see each other throughout the entire movie) swim past each other, pause, acknowledge each other, then move on is classic. And my point was that 1941 hinged on a bunch of music/dance numbers to illustrate the feel of the era and move the plot along, so doesn't that fit the modus of a musical?
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misspelled IGNORANT. Btw, Gershwin was a genius, not to be underrated. Get out of your comfort zones and explore, kiddies.
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starwarrior you are an absolute cock. You don't even understand "Eyes Wide Shut" and I don't even value your opinion. And I'm sorry but "A Clockwork Orange" was rusty boring, not to mention dated crap! "Eyes" was the most incredible movie ever made. I sat there for nearly three hours and let the euphoria flow over me. Maybe you shopuld go back to watching crap like AI, Munich and War Of The Worlds. Cunt.
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