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Rumor of the Day: Patrick Stewart aboard FURY ROAD?
Hey folks, Harry here... Got this report from a fan that encountered Patrick Stewart in Sydney, Australia. He doesn't actually say he's a part of FURY ROAD, just that he's not doing HAPPY FEET 2. Thus... this is the rumor of the day... discuss... We'll work on the confirmations...
Hey Harry! We met the one AND ONLY Patrick Stewart in Sydney today I'm still giddy... sa what u will about Chris Pine, but in my book, the sexiest captain title still belongs 2 Jean-Luc Picard! (And considering Stewart is 70... thats something!) Anyway, he was so kind and so giving, and he made a point to say hello to most people in and out of the rooms... he signed my XMen DVD and I got to ask him whether he'd like to make a movie in Australia and he said he may be back here soon to film a movie with George Miller. I - embarrassingly - blurted "Happy Feet 2! great!" and he said "No, another one". Only other one I can see that Miller is doing is the new Mad Max movie. Patrick is sexy, but surely he's not playing mad max! hee hee - - assume he's playing another role in it. keep up the good work, 'TrekGirl'
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I'm interested in this.
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More dancing penguins? They should meet up with the surfing ones.
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...and wealth to every role he's in. You can actually feel the quality of the third "X-Men" film decline the moment he's killed off.
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Patrick Stewart is one of the only things that will get me to watch a Fury Road that is sans Mad Max (Mel Gibson). But if Stewart's in it, and I've already said I won't see it without Mel... Well fuck, George Miller now knows how to get my butt in the seat.
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Patrick Stewart is one of the only things that will get me to watch a Fury Road that is sans Mad Max (Mel Gibson). But if Stewart's in it, and I've already said I won't see it without Mel... Well fuck, George Miller now knows how to get my butt in the seat.
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Patrick Stewart is one of the only things that will get me to watch a Fury Road that is sans Mad Max (Mel Gibson). But if Stewart's in it, and I've already said I won't see it without Mel... Well fuck, George Miller now knows how to get my butt in the seat.
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Jan. 30, 2010, 11:48 p.m. CST
I don't care who else is in this, still not seeing it.
by Ganymede3001
period. And Fuck Tom Hardy too.
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this kid sounds fucking retarted. GODDAM ENTER BUTTON!!!
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It turns out that Max is a clone of a much older version of himself. Really crappy movie ensues. Generally I like Patrick Stewart and I can see him fitting with the universe...just funny he and Hardy would end up prominently in another movie together considering Stewart doesn't work all that often
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I told him that watching Star Trek: The Next Generation on Saturday nights with my little brother and mother became family night after my parents' divorce. He looked sad when I told him this. And then, bc I was in a line for his signing, I asked to take a picture. But I felt that perhaps I asked too soon and maybe I appeared to be insincere, like I was lying about the sentimentality and effect of his show on my family to get close and take a picture. So now I have a picture of a sad and thoughtful Patrick Stewart trying to smile quickly for the camera. <p> I felt bad afterwards, but it was the truth. ST:TNG was family time at moms house growing up. And I'm very thankful for that.
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Time to get this MAD MAX film rolling.
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Payback (get it?) for Conspiracy Theory.
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They're about age matched. Auntie Entity and her new partner Uncle Picardity.
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This is for George Miller. You're 2 for 3 on staggeringly brilliant Max films so far. Don't make it 2 for 4. Hire. Mel. Gibson!
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I've been adamant in the past about saying NO MEL, NO MAX... but damn, Patrick Stewart not playing Picard or Charles Xavier? That's a very strong reason for me to see this movie... <p>... Argggh, the conflict within me!
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Just had to say that--my editorial comment on No Mel doesn't mean I don't think Stewart is fantastic. ST:TNG may carry the fondest memories, but I've loved him in everything I've seen him in.
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I completely agree with you! I'd love to watch Stewart in a film like this. It's been too long since he was in a Hollywood-A production, and I bet he'd do great stuff in a setting like this.<p>In fact I'd like to watch a film like this in general. If there's no Mel, though, I'll have to condition myself to go into it as though it's just some other movie unrelated to anything Max. Which, without Mel, it will be.
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I would totally be down with some sort of Mel as Max bookend to the film, so that we still get a glimpse of the old Mel in this new movie. But I guess that would totally destroy any tension with regards to whether or not he might survive the film. <p> Nuts to that, I say. <p> But without Mel, this is still NOT Mad Max to me. Patrick Stewart is a great topping to a Mel-free Mad Max movie, but it still won't be Mad Max to me. (I'd still wanna see Stewart in such a setting, though. Fo sho).
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Make it so!
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*I AM NOT A STAR SHIP CAPTAIN, I AM A SHACKPERIAN ACT-TOR* guy?<p> who fuckin cares
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No Mel is a bitch.
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...very cool and definitely would get me more interested. I'm already interested and got over the no Mel issue a while ago (although I think people may be overreacting to that a bit as he could be easily be in it on the down low).
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JLA. I mean, I totally see Patrick Stewart as The Flash. Or maybe Black Canary. Fishnet stockings.
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I thought I had heard that Gibson didn't want to do another Mad Max. If Miller has a good script and can get good actors like Patrick Stewart to go out and destroy cars in badass fashion, I think he should make the movie, even if it means recasting Max.
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I've already seen everything. <p> FANTASTIC, EPITONE. I forgot to mention that as I walked away from making Patrick Stewart sad, I told him we'd been quoting his "Extras" episode all weekend. And with that, I saw a very genuine and hearty smile and laugh erupt from his face. Made me feel better.
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ok who am I kidding? I'd be in, even if it was PeeWee Herman and a couple of out of work circus animals <p> -and NO MEL means this has a proper chance at NOT SUCKING
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He's a nice guy, but I don't want to see Captian Piccard in the middle of a Mad Max movie!!!
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you heard it here first.
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...on Geek2Geek. My username is spooge21...look me up baby!
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this fucker gerbils<p> And there was 4 lights<p> If you need it said louder stewart's you go to guy
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my nics spooge11<p> That means I come before you
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True words.
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Make it so! (BTW, did TNG ever explain why a guy w/a British accent had a French name?)
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http://tinyurl.com/28u923
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No not falling for this. Patrick Stewart is one of the coolest and aweseomest actors ever but it doesn't matter because it's like having really awesome side dishes while the main course is Kibbles n Bits. Unless he's playing Max Rockatansky himself this news can go pound a rock.
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You beat me to the Extra's quote. Gold.
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Because people don't always stay in there country of origin. I'm english and my wife is english but her maiden name is French.
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He's too good an actor for a Mad Max film. Gibbo apart everyone else in The Road Warrior sounded like they'd been dragged off the set of one of their awful soaps and they probably had.R.I.P Arkie Whitely. Damn I fell in love with her in Prisoner : Cell Block H.
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Jan. 31, 2010, 5:08 a.m. CST
And the women's clothes have fallen off, but I've seen everythin
by npjs55
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Jan. 31, 2010, 5:54 a.m. CST
It's SIR Patrick Stewart peasants, he was knighted this month
by DiamondJoe
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If that doesn't get the doubters interested - short of getting Mel back - I don't know what will.
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No Mel = No mas.
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....will only remind me the mess that 'ST:Nemisis' was.<P>Tom Hardy taking over the 'Max' role has got to be one of the worst casting decisions I've ever come across! Even a 'cameo' by Mel (which seems unlikely at this point) wouldn't make up for that, as far as I'm concerned. Hell, I'd have even preferred Worthington compared to that.<P>Stewart will add a little gravitas to the proceedings I'm sure, but I'd rather see him back in the 'Dune' re-imagining....<P>Seems Pierre Morel has taken over from Peter Berg, and marketsaw.com and others are reporting he's pushing for a 3D release on that....
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In regards to Stewart playing a man with a French name but an English accent: thematically, by having a 'Frenchman' with an English accent, the show is making a commentary about the globalization of language and culture on Earth in the time of space travel. PS "And then Posh Spice walks in and..." "Her clothes fall off?"... "Instantly!"
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My wife speaks French.
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Patrick Stewart is already well versed in overseeing "Two Men Enter One Man Leaves" Thunderdome like events as this picture will attest to: <p> http://www.junkopia.net/gifs/illus/dune-desert-planet.jpg
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Sold!
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( . ) ( . )
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The camera dollies in to reveal Max walking towards camera, he unwraps his desert headgear... and it's Tom Hardy. <p> No Mel, no Max.
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Now that's something i wanna see!!!
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Just return them and we'll act as if nothing happened
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....Fifi MacAffee...They say people don't believe in heroes anymore. Well, damn them! You and me, Max, we're gonna give 'em back their heroes!
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Well, it would certainly be something, wouldn't it?
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...Patrick Stewart. He's a completely serviceable actor, he's got a good look and the accent's nice. But if you really think he's our greatest living actor or one of our best actors... <p> Rent The Lion in Winter remake he did with Glenn Close. Rent The Lion in Winter starring Peter O'Toole. Watch the performances one right after the other. <p> If you think Patrick Stewart is one of our greatest living actors your baseline for acting must be the syfy Stargate casts.
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...I would still be very happy if this rumor turned out to be true. <p> I really would like another good Mad Max movie, even if it doesn't have Mel.
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All Mel has to do is be the bitter, dangerous, grizzly Mad Max we'd expect him to be thirty years on, and people would flock to this movie. I don't get it. He does essentially this character for Martin Campbell, but he won't do it for George Miller. Must be a personal thing.
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It's amazing how many haters there are. Did I really read the word "serviceable" in the same sentence as Patrick Stewart? I mean holy hell, is it really that important that everyone gets knocked down a peg? Patrick Stewart is a great actor that gets too much shit for his pop culture and over-the-top comedy entries on his resume. The man is quite simply a great actor. Period. And it's okay to admit that.
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I for one can't wait for this flick. Mel's a smart guy for dropping out of this. He's too old for action movies. Accept that fact.
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...we'll get to see Stewart driving a dune buggy with a daft-looking grin all over his face again? <br> <br> Why am I getting a bad feeling about this?
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Here are some explanations I have come up with over the years for why Picard sounds British:<p> 1) Accents have changed over time (laaaame, I know)<p> 2) That is how the universal translator processes his voice when he's speaking French. Like, it's either that, or he sounds like Inspector Clouseau. This also explains why all sorts of aliens speaking in various tongues have American accents. <p> Actually, those are the only two explanations I've got. That's always been a big TNG mystery: when they cast Stewart, why didn't they just make the character British? Go figure.
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Oh that's laughable.
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Jan. 31, 2010, 10:32 a.m. CST
"did TNG ever explain why a guy w/a British accent had a French
by buggerbugger
Nope, just like it never explained why I've got a British accent and a French name.
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How many parts can there be for this guy<p> And at best he's a mediochre actor<p> I can think of lots worse actors<p> But all you people goig he's the best actor ever<br> Go beat off somewhere else
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somewhere that Picard was born in France and raised in England. Although the Universal Translator option is funnier. <p> The line must be drawn HEE-YAH! <P> And good job, D. Vader, you made Patrick Stewart cry!! Don't you know every time a Starfleet captain cries a Klingon gets his ridges? I once made Shatner so angry he spat up a little bit. Now if we can only get Avery, Kate and Scott we'll have all of them.
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but he's no Mel Gibson, damnit! I can haul that tanker!
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He has incredible presence and charisma, and delivers even the shakiest dialogue believably. In my mind, that's a PRETTY DAMN GOOD actor. Of course, we live in an age where Jessica Simpson and Dane Cook are "actors", so it's a sliding scale!
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...as the person who used serviceable in the...gasp...same sentence as Patrick Stewart, allow me to rebut. <p> First, in order to be a hater one would generally be required to express hatred, or at the very least dislike, of something or someone. This I did not do. <p> Second, let's think about what the term "great actor" or "greatest living actor" means. Patrick's career, before he landed the role in Star Trek, was certainly respectable for a character actor. Minor roles in I, Claudius, Lady Jane, Excalibur, various British t.v. drama. Since his Star Trek role he's done a lot of work, mostly voice work for animated features and television work. And you know, there hasn't been a single time I've recognized his voice or face in something that I wasn't happy to hear or see him. <p> But one of our best actors? Greatest living actor? <p> Compare his resume...compare his performances...to one of our great living actors. Shoot, to make the comparison crystal clear, let's stay with UK male actors. In fact, we'll stay with living UK actors. Compare him to Sean Connery or Anthony Hopkins, Derek Jacobi or Jeremy Irons, Michael Caine or Peter O'Toole. Hell, compare the number of great performances and iconic roles to those of Christopher Lee. <p> I'm not hating. I like Patrick Stewart. But get some perspective. Watch some stuff. He's neither our greatest living actor nor one of our greatest living actors. Not hating. Just the truth. <p> I mean, come on, he could still be your favorite actor, or one of your favorite actors.
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Jan. 31, 2010, 11:07 a.m. CST
"know every time a Starfleet captain cries a Klingon gets his ri
by NippleEffect
somebody frame that<p> eff where you where when the universe churned out another dead kennedy<p> This is a pivotal turning point
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I was all for keeping Mel as Max but am I the only one who thought a suitable replacement would be Sam Worhtington? I know he's sort of being shoved in our faces right now, but he seems like he would be a decent new Max.
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With you on Peter O'Toole. But the one I always tell people to watch is "Beckett". The final scene between Burton and O'Toole on the beach, O'Toole makes Burton AND his horse flinch, just with the force of his voice.
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I did mention Sam in the other Mad Max talkback. Not for any real SW love, but thought it might be a more natural fit for him where he wouldn't have to keep remembering to hide his accent.
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You guys remember this one? http:// bp0.blogger.com/_0ftSUX4gAvo/Rydu-8gMkXI/AAAAAAAACes/_y5tL4-gK6E/s1600-h/picard_vs_chunk. gif Hilarious. Stewart's a great guy. He was in Excalibur, Dune, TNG, etc. No reason for him not to be in another genre movie.
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...is the cinematic equivalent of a prize fight between two big names. Leonard-Hagler, maybe, or Ali-Frazier. I've got a lot of love for Burton, who turned in some really good performances along with...his others, but I suspect, Mr. Revok, you know who I think won. Because yeah, if you asked me to name our single greatest living actor it would probably be O'Toole. <p> Actually, though, your name brings up a good example of what I was trying to get at. <p> Michael Ironside is, without doubt, one of my favorite actors. I have watched movies I knew I was going to hate just because Michael Ironside was in them. And I think he almost always does a terrific job. But I wouldn't call him one of our greatest actors or our greatest living actor. He's a talented character actor whose work I really admire. <p> By the way, you ever get shed of that wimpy Cameron Vale character?
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i think its because i've always viewed him as this prim, proper and serious british man so to see him go as crazy as he gets on that show, its just hilarious. especially since he's such a psycho perv plus it helps that Bullock is drawn to look like him because its almost like watching him really do those things. lol
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Your one-stop source for absurdist humor is THE DAILY ABSURDIST: http://thedailyabsurdist.blogspot.com/
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Here's what Memory Alpha has to say on the subject:<p> "Despite Picard having been born in France, he had a distinct English accent. According to TNG: "Code of Honor", by the 24th century, French was considered an archaic language, but Picard may have spoken French with his family during childhood and he still remembered French children's songs like "Frère Jacques," as mentioned in TNG: "Disaster". He also occasionally cursed "merde" in times of stress, such as in "The Last Outpost" and "Elementary, Dear Data", and speaks at least basic French ("11001001")."
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Patrick Stewart? Is he the name opening this movie first weekend?
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an atrocious cunt altogether.
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a go at him because he left his wife, too.
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I'm no Trekkie, didn't see all eps, they've always cast quality actors as captains, and make them great characters. They knew the can't top Shatner, so they went in completely different directions. Picard, the intellectual ideal (best actor in the bunch, Sisko the no-nonsense commander (almost wrote warrior-king, most interesting character with the whole bajorian prophet angle) and Janeway the stict mother (the most fun to watch when written well, the most renegade captain). Then they cast Bakula as Kirk 0.5. :(
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You're right of course. There are a lot of GOOD actors that people enjoy seeing. Stewart has the voice and it's amusing to have him on "American Dad", but I haven't seen real evidence that he has the acting chops to be listed with the big boys.<br><br> The other thing you have to give O'Toole is that he simply hasn't made that one (or more) really embarrassing movie that so many of his peers made. Burton, Olivier, Brando. All embarrassed themselves once or twice. Even a movie like "Stardust" where O'Toole did a great job but DeNiro made me cringe for a solid half hour.<br><br>But if I had to watch only one O'Toole movie, it might actually be "My Favorite Year".<br><br> And Cameron's still hanging around. Thanks for noticing.
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...I love my favorite year so much. That scene near the end with O'Toole and Bologna on stage, O'Toole just soaking in the applause...just damn. <p> Don't think it would be my "one", but that's part of what makes an actor one of the great ones. <p> And yeah, in a completely cowardly fashion I'm not going to commit to what that one would be. Because I think if I said one now and then thought about it later I'd change my mind.
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Patrick Stewart is one of THE pre-emminent actors of our time, and the possibility of having him in FURY ROAD takes the potentiual of the film to new levels of coolness. Anyone who wants to bitch and moan about Sir Patrick being in this MAD MAX entry needs to have their head examined. Patrick Stewart in the new MAD MAX film...MAKE IT SO!!!
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Acting involves stage work, too. In fact, that's where most people say real acting takes place. In fact, most of the best actors working today aren't even in films. Films mostly employ celebrities playing themselves. Now, I don't know enough about Patrick Stewart's past stage work, other than he's a good Shakespearan actor, but to just go down the list of minor roles he had in a handful of movies isn't right, either. You have to look at his entire body of work, you'd have to have seen his plays, etc. I'm not saying one way or the other, as it's just impossible to do. Just like the Academy Awards handing out Trophies for Best Actor. It would only truly be fair to judge the actors if they are playing the same roles and then compare. For instance, how was it fair for the other Actors when Daniel Day Lewis won for My Left Foot? None of the other Actor's in that category had a challenge like he did...
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*We don't need another hero*
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First off, I use the term haters loosely. By your extremely narrow definition of the word, you are not a "hater". <BR><BR> Secondly, I'm not really sure that anyone can say anyone is the "greatest living actor". So, anyone saying that about anyone is being ridiculous. Saying that he is one of the "greatest living actors", I think, is fair. Not only is he an accomplished actor, but it is mostly a matter of opinion. <BR><BR> Thirdly, Peter O'Toole has no part in this conversation. One performance vs. one performance is essentially meaningless. In addition, "one of the greatest living actors" leaves room for their to be better actors. AND calling Patrick Stewart one of the greatest living actors is not in any way a slight to those that might be better. <BR><BR> Serviceable = someone who has appeared on Law & Order, CSI, NCIS, and the millions of other crime dramas. Serviceable is someone you can stick in a part and they won't embarass themselves, but you for the most part don't remember their name. Serviceable is the guy who shows up in your favorite movie and you go, "Oh, hey, it's him! I like that guy!" Serviceable is NOT Patrick Stewart. Patrick Stewart is far superior to serviceable.
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...yeah, except I do know a little bit about Stewart's stage career. For the most part he played small and supporting roles, though if memory serves right before he was cast in Star Trek he played the lead in a fairly well regarded version of Titus Andronicus. Unlike a Jacobi, Holm or even his old associate at the Royal Shakespeare Company, Ben Kingsley, he wasn't regarded as a giant of the British stage. <p> He was in a fairly well regarded small production of Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf (starring alongside the incredible Billie Whitelaw, a real legend of the British stage)but it never made it to the West End. <p> After Star Trek there was the embarrassing and very short-lived run of Stewart's Othello vanity project, where he played Othello and cast the rest of the play with black actors to take the curse off. <p> Once again, not trashing him. Winning a Fringe award, as he did for Woolf, is quite an accomplishment, and being even a less heralded member of the Royal Shakespeare Company is quite a big deal. <p> But he wasn't considered even one of the greatest actors of his era on the British stage.
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Get over it! FURY ROAD does not need him. besides he's to old!!!!!!
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I agree that it is unfortunate that Mel Gibson won't be in FURY ROAD. HOWEVER...this is not a reason to diss Patrick Stewart. I think it's great that he (might) be in this film, and, regardless of that, I am still looking forward to seeing this film...mel or not.
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Jan. 31, 2010, 2:01 p.m. CST
PATRICK STEWART? NOW I AM EXPECTING MAYBE SHAKESPEARE.
by BringingSexyBack
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Three points... <p> 1. If one hopes to be regarded as the best, or one of the best at their craft, it must be in comparison to those considered the greatest in the same field. Therefore of course Peter O'Toole belongs in this conversation, along with any of the superlative actors of stage or screen in whose company the greatest or one of the greatest actors of a generation would dwell. <p> 2. My narrow definition of haters. You might want to look up hate in the dictionary sometime. You are, of course, free to make up your own definition, but really, to be a hater you probably would need to at least dislike something. By your "not so narrow" definition we would get conversations like this: "This is the greatest steak I've ever eaten." "Yeah it was pretty good, but they might have seasoned it a little better." "Hater!" <p> 3. Actually a great number of actors (along with Coughlin's Laws, apparently) have said that the only fair way of determining which actor is better would be to observe them performing the same part. But regardless of which approach one takes one either has to have created a body of work or specific performances of such a nature as to be judged clearly above the level ones peers could produce to achieve greatness. Otherwise the word has no meaning. If you can demonstrate, with example, how Stewart, who is a perfectly serviceable actor with a great look and voice, has fulfilled either of these requirements, I would be happy to discuss it with you. <p> One other thing. Look up the definition of serviceable. You have defined that word in a narrow fashion.
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It's a good thing that George Carlin is dead. He would rip you a new one for your lazy use of language. <br><BR> If you call someone "one of the greatest living actors", you're not saying he is good, or great, or enjoyable, you are attempting to call him ONE OF THE BEST. And I think the argument is valid that, without disparaging him in any way, that Patrick Stewart doesn't belong in the same conversation as O'Toole or Ian Holm, or Ian McKellan, Michael Caine, and many others.<br><BR> Peter
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It's a good thing that George Carlin is dead. He would rip you a new one for your lazy use of language. <br><BR> If you call someone "one of the greatest living actors", you're not saying he is good, or great, or enjoyable, you are attempting to call him ONE OF THE BEST. And I think the argument is valid that, without disparaging him in any way, that Patrick Stewart doesn't belong in the same conversation as O'Toole or Ian Holm, or Ian McKellan, Michael Caine, and many others.<br><BR> "Peter O'Toole has no part in this conversation"??? The only way that statement makes sense is in the fact that O'Toole is a clearly superior actor to Stewart. Again, not a slight to Stewart, but a deserved compliment to O'Toole.
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...when somebody says something similar to what I say, but with ever so much eloquence.
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then I have to agree w/some of the above that Sam Worthington would be a much better choice for Max than Tom Hardy. It's just good business sense; the guy is in the biggest grossing sci-fi flick of all time. Not to mention that he has previous credits in the genre, and, oh yeah, he's fucking AUSTRALIAN! That being said however, I am getting a little tired of hearing his name put up for every friggin' role coming down the pike...FLASH GORDON, CAPTAIN AMERICA, etc. But in this case, it does make perfect sense.
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...people who can say things with brevity. Wanna' trade?
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as an older MAD MAX a la Anthony Hopkins as an older ZORRO could be pretty fucking cool as well!
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...because I've spent a lot of the last year being vaguely dissatisfied with Worthington's work and not very excited to hear his name being attached to projects. <p> But damn if I don't have the feeling he'd make a good Max.
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agree with you completely, but don't forget John Hurt, Richard Attenborough, Alan Rickman, Liam Neeson, Ian Holm, and Kenneth Branagh. And that's not counting the women above Stewart. Patrick Stewart is a good actor and fun to watch. His one-man stage version of Dickens Christmas Carol was amazing. But "greatest living" is too far, as he's a middleweight compared to the above mentioned heavyweights.
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and if you're not going w/Mel George, then it HAS to be Sam Worthington...search your feelings, you know it to be true.
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they're kinda sticky though<p> And in a really, really<br> really<br> bad mood
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...damn it. I knew I was forgetting one of Stewart's good stage things. Everybody loved that version of Christmas Carol. <p> Still, the one I wish I could have seen was Woolf. First of all, because I would have loved to see Whitelaw as Martha. But also because that part seems outside the comfort zone Stewart's demonstrated and he was apparently very good.
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I honestly thought the headline said "Patrick Swayze aboard FURY ROAD?". Now that would be some inspired stunt casting right there.
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http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2023984896/nm0000154 <br> Just put him on a high protein diet for about 2-3 months... workouts everyday... he's golden. Max is Mel... it's that simple.
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Check out Bronson! Then you'll see how fucking good he is! <p> If it's a choice between him & Sam worthington, as to who should be a big name movie star, it's him.<p> Worthington is the movie equivalent of the kid who plays Clark Kent on Smallville. Looks the part, but is essentially a charisma-free zone. Hardy has talent to spare! He could be a fucking amazing (though sadly Mel-less, maybe) Mad Max!
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A little on the nose, don't you think?
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Hardy was his clone in Star Trek Nemesis, right? Wow, not a high point for either of them, I wonder if this will redeem them. But I'm honestly not able to imagine Stewart in this. He's getting old enough that he'd have to play old in an action movie...and I can't see him doing that anymore than Sean Connery (apart from a Henry Jones type of role...hey, that's it, Stewart is Mad Max's long longs absent minded professor dad! Shit, that even sounds good...).
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I've admired Patrick's acting for years and he is so underrated and underrapreciated. One day Patrick will win an Oscar if he chooses the right role. I've been following Patrick's career since his "Star Trek: TNG" days. He's a fine actor. I dont' understand the Sir Patrick hate here, typical AICN talkback can never say anything positive. Harry, can you confirm if Patrick will also return to Bryan Singer's "X-Men 4"?
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shouldn't MAX be running BARTERTOWN by now?
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Three replies to your three points... 1. You completely ignored my point. You are talking about a single performance vs. a single performance. It is a weak, at best, argument. 2. I was not referring your appraisal of Patrick Stewart's acting ability when I called you a hater. Again, you missed my point entirely. 3. Patrick Stewart's performances in Star Trek, on stage such as his one man show of A Christmas Carol, and his performance in Safe House are more than enough evidence to prove my point that he is a fantastic actor. I feel little need to debate whether he is better or worse than Peter O'Toole. Serviceable is defined as being useful or capable of service. It, in my mind, unrightfully categorizes his talent as flatly ordinary and suggests that he doesn't stand out from the rest. I suggest that he does. And to Darryl_Revok: Patrick Stewart absolutely does belong in the conversation with Ian Holm, Ian McKellan, and Michael Caine, cinematic resume notwithstanding.
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Patrick has been in many huge films from the past that you all probably didn't even know he was in. He was in David Lynch's "Dune", and played Leondegrance in "Excalibur".
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Three replies to your three points... <BR><BR> 1. You completely ignored my point. You are talking about a single performance vs. a single performance. It is a weak, at best, argument. <BR><BR> 2. I was not referring to your appraisal of Patrick Stewart's acting ability when I called you a hater. Again, you missed my point entirely. I was referring to your need to step in and put others in their place for daring to be of the opinion that he is a great actor. <BR><BR> 3. Patrick Stewart's performances in Star Trek, on stage such as his one man show of A Christmas Carol, and his performance in Safe House are more than enough evidence to prove my point that he is a fantastic actor. I feel little need to debate whether he is better or worse than Peter O'Toole. <BR><BR> Serviceable is defined as being useful or capable of service. It, in my mind, unrightfully categorizes his talent as flatly ordinary and suggests that he doesn't stand out from the rest. I suggest that he does. <BR><BR> And to Darryl_Revok: Patrick Stewart absolutely does belong in the conversation with Ian Holm, Ian McKellan, and Michael Caine, cinematic resume notwithstanding.
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"The other thing you have to give O'Toole is that he simply hasn't made that one (or more) really embarrassing movie that so many of his peers made". Ha ha. Ah hoo hoo. Fnk. Ha. HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! You're right - the triumphant triumverate of Supergirl, High Spirits and King Ralph notwithstanding, of course. And have you heard of Caligula? Fucking hell, a quick IMDB check could have told you you were taking a shit with your clothes on with that statement.
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Honestly the cast is sounding like some shitty teen soap opera at the moment, with the exception of Hardy and Stewart. Tom Hardy has the manic and toughness necessary for this role, though I really would have loved to see Mel Gibson instead. And if not him at least Bana. But seriously all these shitty teen soap stars are being cast for Fury Road!!! It's an embarrassment.
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I say "was" cause I'm not sure he is dead but I'm pretty sure he is no longer working. He popped up in everything.<p>Checked IMDB..not dead, and born on Christmas. Interesting. Happy belated Dick. Your the best.
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Mel is actually doing a good thing passing the torch to Tom Hardy. Why? Because Mel is washed up, even he knows it himself. Those who keep saying "No Mel, No Mad Max" are delusional.
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Mel is actually doing a good thing passing the torch to Tom Hardy. Why? Because Mel is washed up, even he knows it himself. Those who keep saying "No Mel, No Mad Max" are delusional.
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Yeah...so the act of disagreeing makes you a hater. Fine. You have defined the word for yourself, and even more sadly, have defined it in a way that exactly meets my example about the steak. "Patrick Stewart is one of the greatest living actors!" "Nah, Patrick Stewart's fine and I'm always glad to see him in stuff, but he's not one of our greatest living actors." "Hater!" Wow that's dumb. You've made expressing a mild different opinion into hating. <p> One of the greatest American actors of the 20th century, George C Scott, agreed with Coughlin's Law, by the way, that the only real way to compare the abilities of actors was to watch them play the same part. But my point about Stewart doesn't just rest on that. It rests on the body of his work, both on stage and screen. <p> By the way, I'll also answer your truly idiotic point to Darryl Revoc. <p> Patrick Stewart, one Fringe award and I think one Olivier. Maybe for Oberon or Shylock, though my memory is foggy enough I'm not going to swear to it. <p> Ian Holm. Tony. Cannes. BAFTA (I think multiple wins). Olivier. Plus at least one Oscar nomination. <p> Michael Caine. Two Oscars on his shelf. Nominated like three or four more times. Multiple BAFTAs and Golden Globes. Lifetime achievement awards from a half dozen different organizations. <p> Ian McCellan. Tony, a couple Oliviers, a couple Evening Standards, plus the Oscar nominations. <p> And I know, Backward, awards won't matter now either. Direct comparison of performances doesn't matter, body of work doesn't matter, recognition by peers doesn't matter. And I'm a hater because I just like Stewart and mentioned to someone that calling him one of our greatest living actors was over the top. <p> I think I understand now. You win.
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considering he wasn't really the problem in Indy IV. It was Lucas and Spielberg's lack of interest. It just felt like a lazy and careless film. And Harrison Ford sounds tired. I think Shia is miles better than Efron and Pattinson for what it's worth. He's annoying as shit, but he'll last longer I think. And Wall Street 2 actually looks quite good. Carry Mulligan is a great actress and Michael Douglas is back as Gekko along with Josh Brolin entering the ring. Sounds good to me.
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I'm sorry but when I was watching Edge of Darkness it was Mel Gibson that just barely saved it from complete shit. He's still got a lot of fire in him and I hear Beaver will be a big comeback for him.
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...anyone who first mentions Dick Miller in any conversation is automatically the most admirable person present. Unless someone else trumps them with a Mary Woronov. <p> Actually, someone would have to do research to figure out the exact hierarchy, but regardless, you're the winner today.
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...Udo Kier, Fox Harris, Jay Richardson, Paul Bartel, Sy Richardson...you get the idea, and then rank them. Hey, Keith David (but you'd already know that). <p> This is something someone needs to do. And when I say someone, I mean you.
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....I'd rather watch Mel with his hand up a beaver puppet anyday, than watch Tom Hardy try to be 'Mad Max'....
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just his universe...(unless Mel is Back)
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Game over.
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I'll pretty much watch anything with Stewart in it. I have no problem with a Mad Max movie sans Mel Gibson. If Star TRek without Shatner can be great, anything can.
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Obviously I gotta go Keith David next<p>Udo Kier<p>Bartel and Woronov together<p>Sy Richardson(body of work sheesh)<p>Fox<p>Is Jay Richardson serviceable?
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...shit, I forgot that was a requirement!
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...Clint Howard for sure. There's a bunch you could throw into this. <p> But that's refinement. You've already provided a backbone.
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Minus the brestises...and the bootay...and the face that was at once pretty but warned that your dick was in peril if she was feeling the moon tide. Other than that, and that Woronov had more talent in the single strand of hair that stuck out of the wart on her pinkie finger, they are identical!
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I remember that *other* Christopher Lambert mario van peebles fliq Gunmen, where Stewart had the lamest.death.ever.
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You are absolutely right. I did a 'quick' IMDB search, too fucking quick or I would have remembered "King Ralph".<br><br>'Having said that', and 'that said'...I probably should made the comment about performances, not movies. And I know someone will correct me if I am wrong, but I think even in piece of shit movies, P.O'T. turned in good performances.
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I haven't seen much, if any, Patrick Stewart hate here. I LIKE Patrick Steward. But sometimes you have to have perspective.
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Loved them all before TNG even came on the air.
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Think about it. Older, scrawnier after years in the wastelands. He and Max meet up again, and resurrect the police force. This time they succeed in giving the world their heroes back. Okay, I admit it's a geeks dream.
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Maybe we're right?
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Jan. 31, 2010, 11:11 p.m. CST
I Don't Care If Gibson Is A Nazi Jeebus Freak Jackass Now
by LaserPants
He IS Mad Max. Whoever they get to play the character might be *alright*, but you know in your hearts it'll be all wrong. Mel = Max indeed.
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Haha, I don't think that's in the cards, but that would be funny. Picard'll probably be other wasteland dweller. Some wise tribe leader dude, or, like, an evil wasteland king of the evil biker dudes.
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I think this whole 'hate on Happy Feet' thing is like an internet meme or something - that's the only logical conclusion I can come to, really. I mean, it's Happy Feet - George Miller doing a "Watership Down"-esque fable with penguins, with all sorts of socio-political commentary both blunt and subtle. And, along with all this, he ties in what is essentially a screensaver concept - dancing penguins - in such a way that it actually has dramatic power. Just that alone is pretty amazing stuff. I wonder if it's just an AICN thing, or something.
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Yeah, it's disappointing that Mel isn't coming back, but the whole point of Max in MM2 is that he's defined by those around him, just like Eastwood's Blondie. Sure, initially - there will be tears, as this thread is well evidence of. But, the initial concept remains untarnished.
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Tom Noonan<p>More modern? How bout Geoffrey Arend. I always felt bad for Arend cause I would see him in shit and sa,"When will he get his big break." Well, he did...2 big breaks and they are called Christina Hendricks tits. I can't believe this lucky Mofo. Serviceable and he is getting serviced by that goddess.
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It's the universe that's important and iconic. It could survive without Max. Put the movie years into the future after Max has passed away, but make references to him. I don't know have people telling stories of his legend. Have a scrap metal monument in the middle of town dedicated to his honor or something.
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Serviceable? Does he get automatic inclusion for being in "Terminator" and "Aliens"? Genre, not straight acting, I know. But still.
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Tom hardy and patrick stewart taking over the future mad max film was not something i ever imagined. and considering i almost walked out of nemesis and haven't seen it since.... this has me baffled.
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tho Fifi would be pretty cool too!
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for almost 30 years. Seriously! He looks the same now that he did in Dune. I think he's a vampire.
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so the question is...is he gonna be in it?
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is a nerd liar. if taylor swift was playing the role of mad max people would still watch this movie, maybe on torrent on streaming off a website or bootlegged dvd, they will ALL still watch this movie.
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maybe it rubbed off on him.
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had not been axed. Stewart was perfect. The short-lived Americanized version paled in comparison despite the great efforts of Rufus Sewell.
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that says that they are going to beat them Saints? Who is that?
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...yes and double yes. In honor of him trying to knock over a bank (and for being the only actor to ever say "Ar wants your children" on film, gotta' throw Rip Torn in there too.
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Patrick Stewart is in fact ageless. He was born as a bald 60 year old man with impeccable manners. That supposedly CG de-aged version of him in XMEN 3 is actually the real Stewart. They had to put old man make-up on him for the other scenes.<p> Anyway back to MAD MAX, I can reveal that Patrick Stewart is playing the Lord Humungous. He's been hitting the gym and wearing the hockey mask 24/7 to get into character. Mark my words. This will be the one that wins him the oscar.
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..Stewart for Fifi
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Too effeminate for a Mad Max role. Unless they're pushing for the gay audience this time. Maybe, it's "Miffed Max", this time.
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Feb. 1, 2010, 11:22 a.m. CST
Stewart as villain with a pet gay blonde boy on a chain?
by Royston Lodge
Creepy!
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I seen an interview on youtube with him promoing "edge of darkness" and the interviewer asked him about his comments in 2006...you know all that business about sugertits and jews. <P> Mel said in reply...."you have a dog in this fight?" i.e. are you jewish and the interviewer backed down. But the guy clearly has issues and I will not support him. I vote with my feet and they are not running to see Mel. <P> So bring on a non-Mel Mad Max.
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you and all the other idiots who still have problems with the guy. He said "you have a dog in this fight" meaning "what's your opinion on whether I should still be acting or not" because the reporter asked him about "how some people out there don't want him back in Hollywood". You idiot. Way too fucking sensitive these days.
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later about how he is Jewish and is still offended by the remarks. And then he goes to say that Mel Gibson never gave an apology. He fucking apologized years ago, God damn. What the fuck does he have to do? Donate money to a synagogue and go through a pilgrimage in Israel? The reporter got what came to him, I think he's lucky Mel didn't sock him in the face.
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Feb. 1, 2010, 12:50 p.m. CST
Which Is Worse: Sensitive Reporters Or Nazi Religious Nuts?
by LaserPants
They're both irritating, but the latter causes more damage. <br><br>Btw, I wonder what Mel "Goebbels" Gibson thought of Inglourious Basterds?
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You don't have to be anti-semetic to know Eli Roth is a prize cunt. Even the Rabbis are in agreement on that one.
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but it's ok for jews to hate mel. <p>the guys been working for jews the last 2 decades, i think he's entitled to his opinion. <p>and besides. who gives a fuck?
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And we're allowed to hate and revile him for it. <br><br>But taking a step back from self-righteous indignation, can you imagine how insane Mel's upbringing must've been? His father must have abused him almost constantly; he certainly brainwashed him with plenty of Nazi Ultra Right Wing Catholic propaganda. Perhaps that's why he became an actor? As a coping mechanism? <br><br>Either way, Nazi Jeebus Freak or not, Mel is Mad Max. It's just a shame he's such a raging jerk.
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psycho in the post apocalyptic wasteland.
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Dr. George: Hope all is well and congrats on FURY FEET 4! Now, we're going to hear daily until the DVD Double Secret Special Edition comes out about this actor or that actor joining the cast of FURY ROAD.<p>That's all fine, George. Nothing against these actors especially Stewart. He's a fine actor. But you know, Doc, I don't much care about NAMES when it comes to a MAD MAX movie. That was the problem with THUNDERDOME. Angry Anderson joins the cast. The guy from INXS, or the chick from the David Bowie video has a no line part as a guard. Let's look at your other, good MAD MAX movies. You had guys with names like Mel Gibson and that guy who played the Goose Steve Whatever, and Bruce Spence and Vernon Welles and Emil Minty. Nobody cared who these guys were because they were nobody at the time. What we cared about was they gave great performances as vivid characters in excellent movies.<p>I'm not saying go with unknowns. I'm saying get the story and the characters right first. Which you probably have. But story and character more important. That way, you can have Arkie Whitley as the blonde in the camp and we don't have to read Olivia Newton John joins the cast of the ROAD WARRIOR.<p>Yer Number One Fan,<p>Buzz Maverik
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if their first name isn't MEL, and their last name isn't GIBSON, then I'm NOT GOING TO GO SEE IT. Fuck George Miller. Fuck Tom Hardy. and FUCK Patric Stewart.
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I find it hard to keep Rip Torn off any list;) But I would say that he is to known. I guess maybe your average person knows him as the "dodgeball" guy but for the most part he is a name actor. Props for the heist though.
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Like I said, I vote with my feet and my wallet. Fuck Mel. <P> yep I said it.
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Bring 2006 events up to date.
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...yeah, I guess you're right, what with MIB and Larry Sanders and what have you. I was thinking more of the old Beastmaster days. <p> Oh God, I can't believe I didn't think of this before. Richard Lynch! <p> And by the way the process, predictably enough, was Beastmaster to Sword and the Sorcerer to...one thousand movies!
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a drunk director who says stupid shit...over any director who's a pedophile (Victor Salva), rapist (Polanski), or commie (Oliver Stone) hey Che was great! He just executed tens of thousands of people without a trial and said if he could he'd nuke America! Oh wait, didn't Cameron slap his wife around? Give me a break with all the Mel bashing.
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Total awesomeness!
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Remember how in the end of THE ROAD WARRIOR (called MAD MAX 2 in most of the rest of the world), we learn that the educated and classic theater trained voice-over voice guy from the begining of the movie is an older Feral Kid, who thoughtout the movie only made animal-like noises as way of talking? The kid is a great learner, he went from almost mute into a shakespearean actor comand of the english language and pronunciation type. God, i love that thing about ROAD WARRIOR. Hell, i love everything about THE ROAD WARRIOR. Except that the top babe of the movie gets killed, that was bad!
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Excellently put.
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....Im all for it man.
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Jon Gries<p>Elias Koteas<p>Wow..Richard Lynch yeah.<p>Your on a deep "Classic B-movie" track here. I'm definately working from a "A" background point of view. Those guys you always see and go,"I know him but don't know his name". I guess it all depends on how you look at the obscure term "serviceable actor".
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...while I've said stupid shit while drunk, I haven't gone on a bigoted rant against people of any ethnicity while drunk. And I'm entirely comfortable in labeling people who do as the bigoted fucking assholes they are. Add to that the fact that he was being arrested for drunk driving at the time and Mel is a piece of shit IMO. A piece of shit who has made some good movies that I still really enjoy, but still a piece of shit nonetheless. Fuck him, I'm perfectly fine with the idea of Miller making Fury Road without that bigoted, drunk driving piece of shit.
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Feb. 1, 2010, 7:27 p.m. CST
"I haven't gone on a bigoted rant against people of any ethnicit
by LaserPants
Or made a film vilifying that same entire group of people, in an incredibly over-the-top and grotesque manner, for allegedly hissing, spitting on, and eventually killing your nonexistant spacegod even though, technically, it was the people who built His church, The Roman Empire, who executed him.
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the original (11th Hr) was great and every time I watched Rufus Sewell in the remake I thought: DOCTOR WHO! DAMMIT he could'a been a contender!
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Feb. 1, 2010, 8:06 p.m. CST
I don't care if they cast Daniel Day Lewis...no Mel, no Max, no
by Colt19801980
thats it
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...it's just one of those things you just don't fuck with. Can you imagine Darth Vader being replaced by the guy from those 7up commercials? Yeah, they both have deep, commanding voices... but it's not the same.
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...nah, Elias Koteas flat out works no matter the context. He's a great get. Jon Gries too. He even had a short run on Lost. I screamed out his name when he first popped up on screen. <p> As for the other, you gotta' know by now that much as I love the good stuff I love the bad stuff best of all. <p> Speaking of which...Charles Napier, which by mentioning someone else in Austin Powers you brought on yourself. They even shared the same scene.
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...though I mentioned him in another context farther up...you got to have old Michael Ironside.
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...though he may be a little too well known...Christopher McDonald. A man whose face triggers a deep genetic urge to punch.
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Your more savvy than your average viewer Ned. Koteas and Gries while "household" names to you and I would be lost on most people I think.<p>Lets go back for a moment with a little.......William Hickey!<p>He is right there with Dick Miller for me.
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STING has, of course, survived the apocalypse and every time he enters a room, everyone should say "STING!" with a mixture of holy terror and awkward eroticism.
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Thank you. Someone else has seen the supreme irony.
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Thought you were a fucking tool because of your 'q's. Nope. You're just a fucking tool.
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I don't know why, but I'm laughing my ass off. Now if only I could find it.
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... MAD MAX.
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Would now be one of those times?
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i like him already.
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All the sane, cool people are.
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David Cronenberg and Paul Verhoeven are atheists. You can't get cooler then that.
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