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SOUTH PARK/TEAM AMERICA Masterminds Mounting Manhattan Mormon Musical??

Published at:  Jan 29, 2010 2:52:31 PM CST



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Trey Parker and Matt Stone, creators of the “South Park” franchise and “Team America: World Police,” are now collaborating with “Avenue Q” songwriter Robert Lopez on a new musical for Off Broadway's New York Theater Workshop’s 2010-11 season.

Variety’s Gordon Cox thinks he knows what it’s about:

Subject matter is being kept under wraps, but it seems a sure bet the project will turn out to be the tuner about Mormons on which the three creatives have been collaborating for some time.


In my view Trey Parker plus religion equals can’t-miss comedy, and likely a show that will sell out so quickly most of us can never hope to see it.

Find “South Park’s” hilarious 2003 episode about the Mormons, which itself features a memorable musical component, here.

Find all of Variety’s story on the matter here.

New episodes of "South Park" return to Comedy Central March 17.


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  • Jan 28, 2010 9:45:59 PM CST

    First!

    by carlanga

  • Jan 28, 2010 9:46:28 PM CST

    i've got nothing more

    by carlanga

  • Jan 28, 2010 9:46:47 PM CST

    Dumb, da dumb, dumb...

    by poeticwarriortoo

    dumb, dumb, dumb!!!

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jan 28, 2010 9:49:39 PM CST

    I remain cautiously optimistic.

    by loodabagel

    But if the last few seasons of South Park are any indicator...

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jan 28, 2010 9:49:47 PM CST

    I dont know....

    by curlysue

    I live in Utah and I am not mormon, but my whole family is... I think if they can make fun of them in a clever somewhat respectful way it will be great... but if they try too hard to offend it probably will be too over the top

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  • Jan 28, 2010 9:55:17 PM CST

    i'd go down to nyc for that.

    by redhorsevector

  • Jan 28, 2010 9:56:02 PM CST

    ♫ ♪ IF YOU WERE MORMON ♫ ♪

    by flickapoo


    ♫ ♪ THAT'D BE OKAY ♫ ♪
    ♫ ♪ I MEAN 'CAUSE, HEY ♫ ♪
    ♫ ♪ I'D LIKE YOU ANYWAY ♫ ♪
    ♫ ♪ BECAUSE YOU SEE ♫ ♪
    ♫ ♪ IF IT WERE ME ♫ ♪
    ♫ ♪ I WOULD FEEL FREE ♫ ♪
    ♫ ♪ TO SAY THAT I WAS MORMON ♫ ♪
    ♫ ♪ (BUT I'M NOT MORMON.) ♫ ♪

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  • Jan 28, 2010 10:03:57 PM CST

    ♫ ♪ IF YOU WERE MORMON ♫ ♪

    by flickapoo


    ♫ ♪ I'D STILL BE HERE, ♫ ♪

    ♫ ♪ YEAR AFTER YEAR ♫ ♪

    ♫ ♪ BECAUSE YOU'RE DEAR ♫ ♪
    ♫ ♪ TO ME, ♫ ♪

    ♫ ♪ AND I KNOW THAT YOU ♫ ♪

    ♫ ♪ WOULD ACCEPT ME TOO, ♫ ♪
    ♫ ♪ IF I TOLD YOU TODAY, ♫ ♪
    ♫ ♪ "HEY! GUESS WHAT, ♫ ♪
    ♫ ♪ I'M MORMON!" ♫ ♪
    ♫ ♪ (BUT I'M NOT MORMON.) ♫ ♪

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  • Jan 28, 2010 10:03:59 PM CST

    Bet

    by nippleeffect

    they ain't got balls enough to go up against messiah obama or his hell beast wife
    oprah would hit them lie a two ton black chick the just got done eating at tavo bell
    Nobody risks that

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  • Jan 28, 2010 10:11:34 PM CST

    ♫ ♪ SO WHAT SHOULD IT MATTER TO ME ♫ ♪

    by flickapoo


    ♫ ♪ WHAT YOU DO IN BED ♫ ♪
    ♫ ♪ WITH GUYS? ♫ ♪

    ♫ ♪ IF YOU WERE MORMON ♫ ♪
    ♫ ♪ I'D SHOUT HOORAY! ♫ ♪

    ♫ ♪ AND HERE I'D STAY, ♫ ♪

    ♫ ♪ BUT I WOULDN'T GET ♫ ♪
    ♫ ♪ IN YOUR WAY. ♫ ♪

    ♫ ♪ YOU CAN COUNT ON ME ♫ ♪
    ♫ ♪ TO ALWAYS BE ♫ ♪
    ♫ ♪ BESIDE YOU EVERY DAY, ♫ ♪
    ♫ ♪ TO TELL YOU IT'S OKAY, ♫ ♪
    ♫ ♪ YOU WERE JUST BORN ♫ ♪
    ♫ ♪ THAT WAY, ♫ ♪
    ♫ ♪ AND, AS THEY SAY, ♫ ♪
    ♫ ♪ IT'S IN YOUR DNA, ♫ ♪
    ♫ ♪ YOU'RE MORMON! ♫ ♪

    ♫ ♪ BUT I'M NOT MORMON! ♫ ♪

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  • Jan 28, 2010 10:14:02 PM CST

    smart smart smart smart smart

    by carmillavondoom

    great episode

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  • Jan 28, 2010 10:21:22 PM CST

    Knowing how they use subtext, it'll ACTUALLY . . .

    by wickedjacob

    be about scientology. Or elephant dung. Who knows.

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  • Jan 28, 2010 10:31:39 PM CST

    once...

    by partyflavor

    These projects change over time, but a while back, the general story was going to be about two missionaries in Africa with a song where the locals teach them the local language and how to say what they think is "Would you like to learn about Jesus Christ?" In reality, the locals taught them, "Would you like to F***?"
    There would also be a song about going door to door and getting doors slammed in your face. Not sure how it will all tie together or if these songs are still in it.

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  • Jan 28, 2010 10:34:51 PM CST

    Oh fuck yes

    by macready452

    In theater soon....I hope.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jan 28, 2010 10:53:24 PM CST

    ♫ ♪ FlickaPoo the cunt ♫ ♪

    by darrenspool

  • Jan 28, 2010 10:54:05 PM CST

    that mormon episode....

    by bouncy x

    if that was honestly the true story behind how the mormon religion came to be then wow. i always thought it was as old if not older than all the others. but apparently its all based on the made up rantings of a crazy man? i guess its like scientology.

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  • Jan 28, 2010 11:02:39 PM CST

    ...hey everybody, darrenspool is a gay Mormon!...

    by flickapoo

    ...not that there's anything wrong with that.

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  • Jan 28, 2010 11:04:54 PM CST

    ♫ ♪ darrenspool should stfu ♫ ♪

    by macready452

  • Jan 28, 2010 11:07:24 PM CST

    ...Mormons are '00s. Jehovah's Witnesses are the future...

    by flickapoo

    ...♫ ♪♫ ♪!

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  • Jan 28, 2010 11:26:53 PM CST

    I'm a big Parker and Stone fan

    by dutchrudder

    Too bad I live in the asshole of america and won't have a chance in hell of seeing this show. Oh well.

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  • Jan 28, 2010 11:36:58 PM CST

    Origin of Mormonism

    by smokingrobot

    It's the origin of most religions. Only this one is only a hundred and fifty or so years old, so we can really get a GOOD LOOK AT IT. And it ain't pretty, is it? Think of that next time you pray to your preferred 'Sky God'.

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  • Jan 28, 2010 11:47:39 PM CST

    I used to drive by the "Sacred Grove"

    by macready452

    There is nothing around the area where this was founded. Of course they invented a religion. There is nothing to do other than twiddle your dick for a 25 mile radius.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jan 29, 2010 12:08:30 AM CST

    I WANT A GINGER MUSICAL

    by batman713

    GINGERS DO HAVE SOULS.

    OOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. YOU'RE NOT GOD!

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jan 29, 2010 12:12:08 AM CST

    Mormans..... FUCK YEAH

    by canvasseamonkey

    but not really

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jan 29, 2010 12:29:47 AM CST

    Oprah's auctioning a thong for Hatti

    by nippleeffect

    if it doesn't commit suicide first
    real short clock on this one folks

    Reply to Talkback

  • The Mormon episode is hi-lar-i-ous! Love it! If this musical actually hits the stage, be prepared for the wrath of Kolob to descend on the theater. The placards will be waving to and fro! Let it be so!

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jan 29, 2010 3:11:39 AM CST

    Sorry off topic but.......

    by spiderwalk

    Why has there been no mention on this site about Disney closing down Miramax.

    That's major news for a film geek like myself...i'm really starting to lose faith in A.I.C.N.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jan 29, 2010 3:14:59 AM CST

    Teabagger animation

    by ptsdpete

    South Park in a nutshell.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jan 29, 2010 3:16:40 AM CST

    Should be scientology related

    by ricarleite2

  • Jan 29, 2010 3:18:26 AM CST

    rip miramax

    by brabon300

  • Jan 29, 2010 3:21:12 AM CST

    Mocking Mormons is a favorite pastime of mine

    by daredrummer

    Seriously, those people are crazy, particularly at higher levels of the so called "church". I'm in no way religious, but that's a sci-fi cult in the guise of a religion, like Scientology.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jan 29, 2010 3:21:26 AM CST

    SmokingRobot....yes and no

    by brabon300

    how many religions change their precepts in order to gain statehood, get fed funding, etc?

    Reply to Talkback

  • Jan 29, 2010 4:32:19 AM CST

    not even close to scientology...

    by bubcus

    Scientology is based on channeling energies from one person to another through store-bought artifacts isn't it? Jehovah's Witnesses were founded from a bible study group where their founder thought only 144,000 would be saved (period!) and that the second coming of Jesus would be in 1914.
    Mormons were founded when a farm boy prayed to figure out if he should join the Methodists and wound up seeing God the Father and Jesus as two separate physical beings (differing from the traditional Trinity belief) confirming that man was created in God's image.

    Now, I am not going to flip out that they're making yet another Mormon parody, but I do get annoyed having my religion ignorantly compared to two others that are radically different.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 5:15:46 AM CST

    How are they different bubcus?

    by wickedjacob

    They're all founded by people who claimed to have an inside line to revelation that the rest of the world somehow missed out on. And all three (Hubbard, Eddy, Smith) ended up living very cushy lives on the backs of the people that believed them.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 5:17:49 AM CST

    Sorry, got JH confused with Christian Science.

    by wickedjacob

    I know dick shit about JH. But I bet I'm not far off with that one either.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 5:29:38 AM CST

    Religion will bring about the end of the human race...

    by masteryoda007

  • Jan 29, 2010 5:32:46 AM CST

    Re: WickedJacob

    by bubcus

    I just finished reading up on Scientology (via Wikipedia) and basically it's built around reincarnated alien spiritual beings trapped on Earth. They adhere solely to Hubbard's teachings and go through dynamics for survival.

    Jehovah's Witnesses believe that when you die, that's it and you're simply remembered by God. If you were good, he'll restore you at the end.

    Mormons believe that we were spirit children before this life, we are here to gain our physical bodies and to learn right and wrong. Our spirits go to a resting place after we die and wait until we are all (every being that ever lived on this Earth) resurrected.

    If you think Joseph Smith had a cushy life, you may want to re-read his history. He was quite poor, was tarred, beaten, and imprisoned frequently, and finally shot and killed by a mob. The church he formed was pretty close to broke up until the early 1900s.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 5:42:31 AM CST

    wikipedia

    by bubcus

    Well... I can't go back and "edit" my posts. But Wikipedia appears to be a pretty accurate source if you want to read up on the various religions.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 6:04:14 AM CST

    Pandorianism is the next world religion...

    by zinc_chameleon

    All the others have had their day. Religion based on worship of ecology, with direct neural interfacing. Totally body-based and experiential. James Cameron had a lot more to say than just tree-hugging.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 6:25:33 AM CST

    Bouncy X

    by sympatheticdevil

    The "all about the Mormons" is for the most part quite accurate, containing a few tidbits that most Mormons don't even know, like the part about the hat. There are a few things that are wrong, but I'm not sure if they're intentional or not. I must point out, however, that not being 'as old or older than the rest' doesn't have anything to do with it being the made up rantings of a crazy person. There were ranting crazy people 2000 years ago too. And 4000 years ago. And 6000 years ago...

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  • Jan 29, 2010 7:23:44 AM CST

    dum dum dum dum dum

    by judge briggs

    One of the best eps!

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  • Jan 29, 2010 7:59:35 AM CST

    This was reported in November 2008...

    by wes_reviews_

    You guys are a liiiiiiiittle late. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/mormons-to-get-south-park-treatment-1024598.html

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  • Jan 29, 2010 8:01:37 AM CST

    Name me one religion that hasn't been

    by vorlonkosh

  • Jan 29, 2010 8:05:17 AM CST

    Name me one relieion that hasn't been

    by vorlonkosh

    made up or warped by some crazy or unscrupulous person. The only difference is time. For some reason, if your religion is shrouded in antiquity, that makes it more legit. Just because your religion is 1000 years old doesn't make it any more right. They had crazy fucks back then too, and much more naive followers, simply because of the lack of education of the masses. So roll the roulette wheel, and pick a religion. They are all off.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 8:10:18 AM CST

    ♫ ♪ I wear magic boxers! ♫ ♪

    by jaylenotookmyjob

    ♫ ♪ I'm protected from skidmarks by Jesus. ♫ ♪

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  • Jan 29, 2010 8:20:31 AM CST

    Most religion claim to have "the actual truth"

    by jaylenotookmyjob

    Mormonism is no exception. Islam, the same thing. They all claim to have "THE TRUTH" and that it was lost to history and everyone had everything wrong until Muhammad, Joseph Smith, L. Ron Hubbard or whatever other paranoid schizophrenic came along to "set things right". It's all, of course, utter nonsense. I remember being dragged to church when I was 6 years old and thinking to myself that the nothing that was being crammed into my young brain made any coherent sense at all. If Santa was fake, why the fuck was I supposed to believe in "2000 year old Magic Sky Hippie"? I still connot see how supposedly intelligent, mature, mentally sound adults continue to believe in the ravings of filthy, deranged, uncivilized madmen from horrible, squalor-ridden bygone eras.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 8:24:21 AM CST

    ...vorlonkosh, there IS a difference, and I'll tell you...

    by flickapoo

    ...what that difference it.A religion that has been around for many centuries or millennia has had time to smooth down the rough edges and work out some of the crazy. Any old religion has had centuries of some of the best minds alive at the time working out theologies and interpretations to help that religion stay relevant to people alive at that time. The process doesn't make the religion "true", but it does slowly evolve it into a (for the most part, hopefully) useful social and ethical structure.It's a Darwinian process...the REALLY crazy shit doesn't survive for long. Any half decent religion needs to change and adapt to changing times in order to stay relevant. The end result is far from perfect, but it's what separates an old religion from a cult.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 8:31:37 AM CST

    Remember When South Park Was Funny?

    by laserpants

    Me neither. It's been awhile. Let me guess, are they still writing about 6 jokes a year (one per episode) and then endlessly repeating them? I bet Cartman says stuff in a funny voice too. Talk about Manatee writing.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 9:14:21 AM CST

    so is this ORGASMO: THE MUSICAL?

    by kaiser soze

    Mormon porn stars, the Assfuck Twins, G-Fresh, T-Rex, and the DVDA shot. Awesome stuff for Broadway!

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  • Jan 29, 2010 9:31:08 AM CST

    flickapoo

    by kaiser soze

    you said, "Any half decent religion needs to change and adapt to changing times in order to stay relevant". What about Catholocism. One of the biggest and it refuses to change despite evidence that it desparately needs to. Just look at its stance on things like birth control, abortion, its preference to let its priests fuck little boys rather than marry, its constant refusal to apologize for its policies and complacency during the holocaust, its beliefs about homosexuality, and its refusal to tell Bill Donohue of the Catholic League to fuck right off. The Catholic church absolutely refuses to change and somehow manages to stay relevant.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 9:44:12 AM CST

    Catholicism

    by creative1

  • Jan 29, 2010 9:44:38 AM CST

    ...Kaiser Soze...I'm not going to defend any specific...

    by flickapoo

    ...religion, but I think the theory is solid. Sure, Catholicism is pretty ossified, but it has changed on all sorts of things over the centuries...sometimes for the better and sometimes not.I believe Vatican II in the 60's was the most recent big shift. Catholics used to burn people for claiming the world was round, or not the center of the universe...but they adapted. More recently Catholicism stretched to incorporate evolution, something most American Protestants haven't managed to do yet apparently.I'm not religious, so I'm not saying time makes religion sensible or true...but time does seem to weed out the worst of the David Koresh and Jim Jones style crazy.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 9:52:26 AM CST

    Catholicism

    by creative1

    The impact of the catholic church is on the wane. Most Catholics and especially American Catholics practice an A la carte (some of this, none of that) faith. while the positions of the Church haven"t changed the positions of the practitioners have. The Catholic church does have greater prominence in Latin America and Africa (for now) but only until their economies start to approach Europe and the U.S. Countries with money acknowledge the Pope but they don"t really listen to him.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 10:02:23 AM CST

    God hopefully this means

    by series7

    They'll get some new blood in the mean time to handle the fucking awful South Park right now...that are just end it.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 10:53:54 AM CST

    If they had real balls they'd go after

    by jimmy_009

    Scientology. I would put down cash money to see a musical making fun of Scientology. Unfortunately everyone in Hollywood is too chickenshit.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 10:59:55 AM CST

    jimmy_009

    by kaiser soze

    They DID go after Scientology. Have you ever seen the South Park ep. where Tom Cruise won't come out of the closet and Stan is the second coming of L. Ron Hubbard? However, that particular ep. lead to a falling out with their friend, Issac Hayes, which ended with him leaving the show and Chef dying after choosing to stick with his weird friends. A falling out that was never repaired before Hayes died. So, although Trey and Matt say everyone's fair game, I think Scientology might be a soft spot for them.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 11:10:47 AM CST

    LMAO at religious people who make fun of Mormons

    by menstrual_bloodfart

    ... or Scientology, meanwhile they believe in bullshit written thousands of years ago by guys in dresses. Nice work, faggots.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 11:26:23 AM CST

    Remember when Robot Chicken was Funny?

    by smokingrobot

    That was a long time ago. I think dinosaurs walked the earth then.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 11:29:57 AM CST

    "Where were you, when they built that ladder to Utah?"

    by bg7

  • Jan 29, 2010 11:55:36 AM CST

    that episoide is classic

    by rupee88

  • Jan 29, 2010 12:40:22 PM CST

    As a Mormon..

    by particularly hard vato

    I think this will probably be hilarious!

    I just had to watch Mickey kick the crap out of the Johnas brothers again...

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  • Jan 29, 2010 12:56:06 PM CST

    The History of Religions - No Ranting...

    by bubcus

    Seeing as people believe religion is formed by madmen that rant, here's a quick guide of the various Christian formations:

    1. Catholics - Constantine was looking for political power and opted to bring Christianity out of the dark. Held a Nicean council, they voted on the nature of God and compiled the bible.
    2. Lutherans - Martin Luther didn't like the "sale of indulgences" which allowed people to pay in advance to have their sins remitted and after being threatened with death for nailing his concerns to the church door, the Germans had him create a church.

    3. The King in England, Henry VIII, wanted to divorce his wife, saw what the Lutherans were doing and thought that'd be a great idea and formed the Church of England known as the Anglicans.

    4. Various Protestant churches then popped up thinking "hey, everyone is messed up" and created their own groups.

    None of those religions appear to have been formed out of ranting madmen. I spent an hour last night reading up on Scientology, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Mormons and there wasn't any "ranting" or "madmen" in their formations either.
    There's even a Darwin movie coming out, which has me curious, that follows his family life. After the death of his daugher, his wife became more religious and he became more scientific and therein he followed his pursuit of survival of the fittest leading to what we consider Darwinism.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 1:08:59 PM CST

    TREY'S 1ST MUSICAL HIT'S LONDON IN JULY

    by filmfan2424

    Cannibal! the Musical is on in The West End, London just before this one comes out..Leicester Square Theatre

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  • Jan 29, 2010 1:30:21 PM CST

    LUCY HARRIS SMART SMART SMART...

    by swivile bobble fizz fizz

    MARTIN HARRIS DUMB DEE DUMB....

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  • Jan 29, 2010 1:33:10 PM CST

    NippleEffect

    by frozen01

    You obviously didn't see the one episode of SP where Obama, McCain, and Clinton (the female one) were all working together ala Oceans 11 in an elaborate plot to get into the White House. HILARIOUS!

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  • Jan 29, 2010 1:33:58 PM CST

    FlickaPoo

    by frozen01

    "A religion that has been around for many centuries or millennia has had time to smooth down the rough edges and work out some of the crazy."
    They're not doing a very good job of it at all.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 1:44:31 PM CST

    Again, ther're all wrong because of

    by vorlonkosh

  • Jan 29, 2010 1:47:33 PM CST

    Again, ther're all wrong because of

    by vorlonkosh

    X, Y, or Z. Take your pick. So why waste time trying to convince anyone of whether or not any of them have merit. We all have reasons to sticking to our various faiths, and many of those reasons have nothing to do with whether or not we believe in the origins of that particular faith. Most stay out of tradition, and many stay to preserve peace in their households, especially if the spouse is devout. Just don't delude yourselves in thinking one religion is more right than the other.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 1:51:18 PM CST

    Mormons. Ha.

    by wickedjester

    Loved when I was interviewing for assistants and these 18-20 year old girls would come in and have already been married for like 4-5 years.Clearly a great religion if you wanna lock up a young piece of ass for life.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 1:55:09 PM CST

    Yo Bubcus

    by psynapse

    I noticed you omitted the fact the Smith had to flee an arrest warrant in Ohio for illegally running a bank through his 'church' and that while he was beaten to death by a mob (upon being arrested for charges of treason for trying to implement martial law in response to a faction of latter day saints that were publicly criticizing his grab for power and polygamous behavior) that was actually in response to him ordering the Nauvoo Expositor (the paper that was criticizing him) office destroyed. The dude was Mayor of his town and running for President at the time.Believe what religion you want (Hey I practice 'Quantum Mysticism' so I'm not going to put down anyone else's belief systems) but don't try to spin Smith as any different than dudes like Hubbard because he wasn't. They used the belief of their followers to further their own personal agendas and ruthlessly at that.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 1:59:09 PM CST

    Hah hah hah " I spent an hour last night reading up on..."

    by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes

    Dude, I do not mean to rip you, but that was hysterical. A whole hour huh?
    An hour on multiple religions!

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  • Jan 29, 2010 2:31:29 PM CST

    Yo Psynapse

    by teekayfortuwan

    Are you saying that Josephs Smiths actions justified the organization of mob to MURDER the Mormons!? Cmon man.

    And saying JS lived a "cushy life" is just plain uninformed.

    To all the religion bashers out there: "All I ever did was try to be your friend, Stan, but you're so high and mighty you couldn't look past my religion and just be my friend back. You've got a lot of growing up to do, buddy. Suck my balls."

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  • Jan 29, 2010 2:38:59 PM CST

    picking on morons and scientologists is easy

    by happy boy

    let's see some of you idiots have the balls to pick on Judaism or Buddhism. logically, if you have a problem with one religion you should have problems with all religions. you morons do realize that media criticism of religion actually really have nothing to do with religion right? it's a means to deconstruct and limit the political power of organized religious groups that Hollywood opposes. I mean if the point is that religion is bad and leads to wars and bigotry and things, why does Hollywood never talk about the Jewish religious extremism that has led to war for 40 years in the Middle East, or how Tibetan Buddhism teaches principles abhorrent to Americans such as a rigid caste system? I LMAO at sheep who GLEEFULLY get off on mindlessly regurgitating screed against politically incorrect religions as if they're intellectually forward, all the while they cant logically ask the same questions about the religions that Hollywood politically endorses.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 2:44:19 PM CST

    Yo Teekay

    by psynapse

    I said nothing endorsing the murder of anyone. In trying to expand his 'church' he was ruthless in trying to opress those who disagreed with him (Martial Law because the newspaper called you out? Riiiight.) and those same people had finally had enough and took him out. You reap what you sow and so did Smith.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 3:13:00 PM CST

    Mormons=Morons.

    by stalkeye

    What's funny is that they didn't allow Blacks to join their congregation until say..1980?(OK I may have exagerrated a bit but I'm only off 1 or two decades.)If you ask me it's as much of a cult as scientology.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 3:21:45 PM CST

    ALL religions are cults

    by psynapse

    That doesn't invalidate the value of faith and spirituality in the slightest though.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 3:50:13 PM CST

    Stalkeye

    by bob loblaw law blog

    They could join the church, just not hold the priesthood. That changed in 1978. Is it a splendid part of Mormon history? Of course not. Joseph Smith ordained at least one black man to a priesthood office in the church while he was alive, and church leaders fought about it for years. Stuff like that happens... it doesn't mean that EVERYONE involved were a bunch of racists, nor was the LDS church alone in denying leadership positions to minorities. You live and learn, you know?

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  • Jan 29, 2010 3:52:54 PM CST

    Re: Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tast es

    by bubcus

    Actually it was an hour reading up on Scientology and Jehovah's Witnesses so that I wasn't talking out of my ass. I thumbed through the profile on Mormons while I was at it and then went to bed. I read up a lot on other religions years ago and attended a Catholic school while growing up.

    As to the printing press situation that Smith was involved in, there's different points of view on it and I won't get into a debate over something I will admit was mishandled on his part. I'm not posting here to point out historical flaws like that else we could go on for hours and hours... just saying the varied religions are radically different and shouldn't just be lumped together out of ignorance.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 3:55:21 PM CST

    Psynapse

    by teekayfortuwan

    Sounds like an endorsement to me. BTW, one could just as easily argue that Joseph Smith and the Mormons were sick and tired of getting bullied and "finally had enough" and decided to take a stand against the bigotry and lies that were being perpetrated against them. There are always two sides to a story... unless of course you MURDER the opposing side

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  • Jan 29, 2010 4:08:56 PM CST

    Haven't watched much South Park, don't really "get it"

    by revenge_of_fett

    I've seen snippets of episodes and they just strike me as exceptionally bizarre, but not funny.I had a friend tell me Bigger, Longer and Uncut was one of the funniest things he had ever seen. I told him I wasn't amused by the show, but he told me the movie was far better. So he loaned it to me.The first 10 minutes or so is the musical rendition of "Uncle fucker". I think it was a song sung by a boy molested by his uncle. I was trying to figure out exactly what the funny part was. I'm not saying you can't joke about that subject or anything, I just didn't get why repeating "Uncle fucker!" ad nauseum was supposed to crack me up.So I thought maybe it was just a weird beginning and things would pick up. I watched the film up to Saddam Hussein getting ass-raped by the Devil before I realized this film wasn't actually supposed to be "funny" in the traditional sense of, you know, telling jokes or irony or whatever, it's just supposed to shock you into laughing. Well I don't get shocked very easily and certainly not by things that are supposed to be funny. I mean shit, I've been posting on AICN forums for over a decade!I think I just couldn't figure out exactly what these characters were supposed to be lampooning. Nothing happening on the screen seemed to be tied to anything I was familiar with. I guess the saddam Hussein thing was making fun of the fact that...Saddam was evil? Is that such a shocking concept?However, I enjoyed Team America more because it actually seemed to be trying to be funny. It appeared to actually have a POINT to what was going on onscreen. I mean, it wasn't hysterically funny by any stretch, but I did laugh out loud a couple of times. This time the movie was actually about something relatable.If this new film is about portraying Mormons as insufferable morons, COUNT ME THE FUCK IN!

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  • Jan 29, 2010 4:30:21 PM CST

    Pretty sure you could have just said Trey Parker and Matt Stone

    by joesixpack

    I think most people who visit this site know who they are.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 6:07:44 PM CST

    Joseph Smith's magic glasses

    by deelzbub

    You know the angel Moroni is still passing out those cheap 3-D glasses like it was the future of media or something. At least I got my Holy underwears.

    Heh heh, Moron-i.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 6:56:07 PM CST

    Gordon Eats Cox

    by azultool

    Did that dickhead refer to it as a 'tuner'? Variety is sickening.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 6:57:04 PM CST

    As a X Morman

    by edwardpenishands

    I have say that all religions are BS. But I think we’re better off having them around. Most people can’t handle the truth that this is all there is. When you die there is nothing. No fluffy clouds, no Grandma, and no magic wizard that’s pissed off at you because you touched your own pee-pee when you were 12. But if that helps you trough your crappy life more power to you. As long as you’re not flying planes into building I’m cool with it. I also have to agree with the south park episode were they got rid of all religions and they just found another reason to kill each other. No religion does not mean there would be no stupid people.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 7:06:39 PM CST

    As a Thetan 7

    by azultool

    I still think Cruise and Travolta are a couple of finnochios...

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  • Jan 29, 2010 8:41:39 PM CST

    RE: Jehovah's Witnesses

    by joely_boy

    The founder was heavily into the occult and after he died the next leader was a massive alcoholic who built a nice mansion/estate for himself and claimed that it was a place for the resurrected prophets to live.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 9:48:52 PM CST

    Again with the religious crap

    by immortal_fish

    Mormon Mitt Romney. BAAD!!Mormon Harry Reid. GOOOD!!

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  • Jan 29, 2010 10:32:04 PM CST

    Dig a little deeper, bubcus

    by sympatheticdevil

    Not only were Constantine, Luther and Henry the VIII Grade-A ranters, they also brought the art of assholery to a whole new level. They let thousands of the adherents of their 'new' religions die to advance their political goals.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 10:45:40 PM CST

    ...edwardpenishands...

    by flickapoo

    ...good post.

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  • Jan 29, 2010 10:48:06 PM CST

    ...AzulTool, how do you know that word?...

    by flickapoo

    ...I know that word, how do you?

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  • This will be amazing. I doubt it'll show the goddies how ridiculous and senseless they are, but it'll still be great for more than a handful of laughs and one-liners if history has taught us anything about Stone/Parker.

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  • Jan 30, 2010 9:08:56 AM CST

    People still think South Park is funny?

    by m_prevette

    Really? I mean...really? Wow.

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  • Jan 30, 2010 10:12:46 AM CST

    Parker and Stone are cowards...

    by boogel

    They go after Mormans because they know they won't get any serious pushback. This is the religion that teaches their kids to say 'please' and 'thank you' on the street. Oooohhhh..scary. They might get a tersely worded letter if they don't watch out. Or they could go after the religion that saws the heads off jews live on TV and breaks into the houses of cartoonists with an axes. Gee, I wonder which one they will go after. Maybe next week they can pick a fight with those frightening amish.

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  • Jan 30, 2010 1:45:16 PM CST

    Parker and Stone may be many things

    by ironburl

    but cowards is not one. They have skewered EVERYTHING, especially islam. Did you see Team America? Did you see the SP episode with Bin Laden and Al Zachwari (spelling).

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  • Jan 30, 2010 3:46:56 PM CST

    Ok, but...

    by boogel

    Mormons seem like the fluffy kittens of todays christian sects. I don't see the sport in going after a target that won't/can't fight back.

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  • Jan 30, 2010 5:46:12 PM CST

    ironburl - Especially Islam...?

    by immortal_fish

    That was the one where Jesus and all his followers were shown throwing shit at each other. Meanwhile, they were too scared to show Muhammad hand Peter a football helmet or some such harmless nonsense.Real BRAVE, that.

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  • Jan 30, 2010 8:49:07 PM CST

    Immortal_fish

    by wickedjacob

    you're either misinformed or a troll.

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  • Dang these guys lost it....What is this like project #5 about Mormons? These guys used to be funny like 10 years ago, now they're just predictable and lame. Plus they obviously have an unhealthy hatred toward this religion....sad really.

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  • Jan 31, 2010 3:31:07 AM CST

    ooohh...Making fun of Mormons is sooo "Edgy".

    by sns

    Ya take on pacifists......Cowards.
    I'll be looking forward to their film on the Amish next....

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  • Jan 31, 2010 5:28:52 AM CST

    South Park Mormon Musical

    by cab58

    while awaiting with near unbearable trepidation for the new musical, might I suggest that for anyone interested in discovering Mormonism through feature films they check out these five films: "New York Doll", "God's Army", "States of Grace" , "Saints and Soldiers" and "Truth and Conviction". If anyone should bother to see them, I would be interested in some comments and feedback...

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  • Jan 31, 2010 12:24:18 PM CST

    Mormonism isn't some kitten religion...

    by tigerking7979

    the mormon church based in utah spent millions of dollars to get the gay marriage ban passed in california. So this jive about them not being able to fight back is a bunch of bullshit. And with the rise of Orrin Hatch, Mitt Romney, and Harry Reid(who by the way is no where close to being a liberal, just ask a real liberal that) have become a force in american politics. And the mormons have a history of bigotry, racism, and sexism that continues to this day. Mormonism is basically one main sect who hides their polygamy and one small one that still promotes polygamy. So its not like there differing opinions in the Mormon religion like there is with buddishm, Judiaism, chirstianity, and Islam. And one main aspect about the mormon church is making lots of money and using that money to exert their power. Mormonism was just some made up religion so its founder could make lots of money and have sex with lots of different women. The polygamy aspect of mormonism makes it highly sexist, giving women no say in their marraiges.

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  • Jan 31, 2010 12:31:25 PM CST

    South Park has fell way offf

    by tigerking7979

    South Park used to be funny every single episode. Now you only get one funny episode per season. And Trey Parker's and Matt Stone's political viewpoints are completely stupid. Their like we're not republicans but we believe the republican stereotypes of liberals. Which is idiotic and ignorant that they actually believe republicans stereotypes of liberals. Like the one episode they tried to make fun of al gore for his global warming movie. That episode was nowhere close to being funny. Now there alot of things you can make fun of al gore about but the global warming thing you can't, because global warming is real, and that was the only courageous thing al gore done in his whole political career.

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  • Jan 31, 2010 9:10:32 PM CST

    South Park was surprisingly nice and fair to Mormons

    by darthvedder81

    They ripped the "origin" of the religion but they portrayed the Mormons as kind, non-judgmental people. That juxtaposition was what makes it funny.

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  • Feb 01, 2010 6:59:57 AM CST

    The Original Mormon Cartoon...

    by assassinwithson

    Trey and Matt hit it right on the head!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFZ1jVO3-OE

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  • Feb 01, 2010 7:03:21 AM CST

    Re: tigerking7979

    by assassinwithson

    Oh no, here comes the obligatory, "What political views do Matt and Trey have?" argument. Let me start...I think they are socialist neo-capitalists with a penchant for tomfoolery and republicanish liberalism. Discuss....

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  • Feb 01, 2010 7:07:58 AM CST

    Re: sns

    by assassinwithson

    Cowards or not, most mormons are holier than thou assholes who spend millions of dollars keeping other free Americans from being able to marry who they want. In a reasonable world, people should be asking, "Why aren't these people being ridiculed more?" Do you think we should wait until the mormons are all powerful rulers of our country before we start insulting them?

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  • Feb 01, 2010 5:39:52 PM CST

    assasinwithson trey and matt's political views

    by tigerking7979

    are like the alot of generation xer's. They don't like republicans, but they believe the stereotypes republicans have of liberals. There the kind of people who don't really vote and don't take the time to understand political issues. So they just regurgiatate political stereotypes instead of thinking for themselves. They are the kind of people who bitch about the world they live in, yet do nothing to change it, like a lot of gen xer's. That being said I have been a long time fan of south park even though it has fell off the last 4 years.

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  • Feb 01, 2010 8:03:43 PM CST

    At least take time to make a well informed criticizm

    by vorlonkosh

    Mormons do not endorse or "hide" polygamy.
    Mormonism does promote equality in the physical sense, but does preach that non-whites, particularly blacks and native americans are spiritually inferior because of curses placed upon their ancestors. However, its not nearly as bad as what European and Middle Eastern religions have taught and condoned concerning the Jewish people, native americans, intellectuals, heretics, and so on.

    Again, I say they're all bullshit. Pick your poison.

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  • Feb 01, 2010 11:06:27 PM CST

    I hate Mormonism....

    by tensticks

    And most Mormons can go fuck each other up their soul-soliciting, pig-fucking, righteous asses. I'm not ignorant, I'm not misinformed, I'm speaking from a lifetime of exposure and from having seen far too much corruption, arrogance, ignorance, phoniness, and hypocrisy from this particular pseudo-Christian business sect. (Not that most other religions thrill me either, but this one galls me more than all but one or two others.) I realize no one gives a shite about my opinion, but I needed to say it.

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