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DEXTER Schmexter!! The Director Of SEVEN & ZODIAC & The Producer Of MONSTER Are Developing A New Serial Killer Series For HBO!!
I am – Hercules!!
Serial-killer movie vets David Fincher (“Seven,” “Zodiac”) and Charlize Theron (“Monster”) are collaborating on a new HBO series about serial killers and the folks charged with putting those serial killers away.
The proposed series will be based on a 1996 book by John Douglas and Mark Olshaker titled "Mind Hunter: Inside the FBI's Elite Serial Crime Unit." Variety describes the book:
The book recounts Douglas' experiences as a top FBI investigator of serial killers and rapists, and the profiling techniques he developed.
“Dexter” vet Scott Buck will pen the pilot. There’s no word as to whether Fincher and Theron will do more than produce.
Find all of Variety’s story on the matter here.
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Dexter is just fine with me. Why does HBO feel the need to play catch up? They haven't had a decent series since the early seasons of The Sporanos.
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Isn't this what Harris used for Red Dragon already?
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First.
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Second! Still a career high!
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The Wire would like a word with you. One of the two or three best shows of the last decade. Not an opinion... a fact.
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Nice troll.
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It's official, HBO is must see TV once more! Can't wait for this as well as a half dozen other shows they have in the works. And The Pacific is going to own!!
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that's what it looks to me.
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I read it ten or so years back and it was pretty damn brilliant.
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Sound's a lot like Criminal Minds but i guess this well be more gritty.
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We know your opinions on Dexter. Go back to your dollhouse. Oh right...
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The Wire, Six Feet Under, Deadwood, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Big Love, In Treatment, True Blood, Flight of the Conchords, Summer Heights High, Rome, Extras, Eastbound and Down, Bored to Death and The Life and Times of Tim vs. An overrated Dexter, an overrated Weeds, a pretty good Californication and...strikeforce? Yep. Catch up indeed.
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and you'll be as psyched for this adaptation as I am! FYI, The Silence of the Lambs was directly based on Douglas who wrote this novel about his days as a profiler.
Jack Crawford, a character in the Thomas Harris novel The Silence of the Lambs was directly based on Douglas. Crawford was played by Dennis Farina in the film Manhunter, by Scott Glenn in the film version of The Silence of the Lambs and Harvey Keitel in the film version of Red Dragon.
Douglas was also used as the character model for Frank Black in Millennium, as well as Dr. Sam Waters (Ally Walker) on Profiler.
The CBS TV series Criminal Minds chronicles the cases worked by a team of agents of the Behavioral Analysis Unit. The character of David Rossi, who is described as having helped develop the program and retired to have a lucrative career involving books and appearances, is also based upon Douglas. -
Besides whatever Whedon's bowels are currently producing, what TV shows do you actually like Herc?
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HBO has so many shows in the works right now, I honestly don't see how they could afford to actually run them all. So let's see... We currently have Big Love, Entourage, Curb, True Blood, The Life and Times of Tim, Eastbound and Down, Bored to Death, Hung, & In Treatment right? Now they are soon going to be adding Boardwalk Empire, Treme, The Ricky Gervais Show, and How To Make It In America. Getting a little crowded now! So how in hell are they going to also add (the brilliant) Mind Hunter and (the more so brilliant) Game Of Thrones to the mix? Something or more likely somethings will have to be axed...
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When is A Song of Ice and Fire going to premiere on HBO? Feels like forever ago since they announced it.
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I doubt Song of Ice and Fire will ever see the light of day. That and the fact that Mark Addy is horribly horribly miscast as Robert. As well as the fact that HBO just has too many shows going on right now to be able to bring another one in (and an expensive one at that).
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Jan 28, 2010 2:16:55 AM CST
Herc also thinks Entourage is better than Arrested Development
by fastcars
So, don't take this post too seriously.
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In the very funny scene where McNulty gets profiled (via his serial killer alter ego) at the Behaviour Analysis Unit, a blowhard comes in and tells them how great and famous he is for catching serial killers, how he has a book and how TV shows want him to consult.
McNulty counters with the number of murders they actually have to tackle in Baltimore in just a year and muses about the capture of the Unabomber by his brother informing after he eluded the FBI for all those years.
Course it might not be Douglas, just an composite on that type of figure, but it sure sounds like him. -
According to some studies, profilers are basically full of it.
After analyzing studies on criminal profiling accuracy, the authors concluded that professional profilers don't show any more significant accuracy in their predictions than the control groups did by using common sense and educated guesses. And that's not including the fact that many profilers refuse to participate in any kind of study to verify their accuracy.
So it seems to me that, not only are they full of it, they fucking *know* they're full of it.
Study can be found here :
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.91.6775
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Damn you for bringing up the great whole that is missing in the universe: The Wire.
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Showtime's already just a shitty version of you!
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Frank Black needs his time on the big screen.
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Dexter rules .....
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put a edit button
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It should never be brought back.
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Where being into this profiling stuff made him the "Star Trek nerd of the class." Damn, that was a good show.
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I'll be pretty excited. I doubt it could meet The Wire levels of storytelling, but it'd certainly beat serial killer of the week, the way of network TV.
Also hoping it'll be a little more serious and reserved than Dexter. -
This sounds like some by-the-numbers snorefest.
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Dexter is incredible.
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Meh.
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Bitchiness aside I may give this a watch, but I wouldn't describe myself as enthusiastic.
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In the book "What the Dog Saw" Gladwell basically says that profiling in bullshit. I recommend the book to anyone who likes thought provoking non-fiction.
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but please, no more vampire shows.
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Jan 28, 2010 9:39:51 AM CST
That's because Entourage IS better than Arrested Development
by gruntybear
STFU already about how scintillatingly hil-a-ri-ous Arrested Development tried to be. It was haughty smarm wrapped in awkward pauses, dry word-play and in-joke after in-joke after in-joke. At its height, it was "The Office" with a stick up its ass and better continuity; and that's not saying much. The endless claims that it was THE. BEST. COMEDY. EVER. are really, really starting to grate. Go THE FUCK away already. Next you'll be on about what a fucking crime it was that HBO yanked the underwhelming "Carnivale" from their line-up. When the most interesting thing about a show is its credit sequence, you know that show is in deep, deep trouble. Not even blatantly stealing from David Lynch's bag o' tricks could save that derivative, poorly thought out circus soap. And don't even get me started about empty-headedness that is Dexter.
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Just finished season 3 of 'Dexter', what a great show.
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Almost every show on tv is about people catching killers. Dexter has nothing to worry about. It is a truly unicqu show. HBO can't do anything worth watching anymore.
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Jan 28, 2010 9:54:40 AM CST
Yeah... except criminal profiling is complete bunk
by password.swordfish
This book was the single reason I wanted to become a forensic psychologist. Then I became a forensic psychologist and in the process, learned exactly what a forensic psychologist actually does... and it ain't profiling. Why? Cause statistically, profilers are worse than chance. Broke my heart to realize it, as it was what I wanted to do for so long, but in an article for the New Yorker (and recently on cracked.com), people who have evaluated the actual effectiveness of profiles (how well they match the perpetrator, how often they lead to an arrest, etc.) know that you have a better chance of catching the criminal if you bet against the profile. Eeps!
All that aside, my interest in this show depends on how well they handle the psychology of it. I can't watch the horrific Criminal Minds because I can't get past the awful psuedo-psychobabble and completely wrong statements they make all the time. I love the shit outta Dexter because apart from the intense, wonderful storytelling (esp this season with Trinity - shudder), they absolutely nail the psychology behind it. I know that doesn't matter to most people, but I appreciate it. Must be freaking hard for cops and doctors to have to constantly handle the butchering of their profession on TV and movies. -
How dare anyone compare this to Dexter... there are at least 10 shows more similar on basic cable.
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. . . and everyone's in a tizzy. Dexter is Dexter and nothing is going to hurt or compete w/ your show, people. The headline should have just read "David Fincher is developing a show for HBO." That's all you need to hear to be jumping for joy.
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maybe if you like product placement and limp jokes.
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Jan 28, 2010 10:11:44 AM CST
maybe if you like the same piven schtick in every episode.
by redhorsevector
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But honestly, I don't think anyone cares. And that's a shame.
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Guess that's why people read comment sections before commenting themselves. Not me! I go my own road... or I was just too lazy.
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Also, yes it is a shame that popular opinion of what works trumps what actually works, but I'm convinced that when policy makers decide important things like allocation of money, empirical evidence always takes a backseat to voter's uniformed opinions. Dang, I sound pretty cynical.
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and you all know it.
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...will this serial killer sing and dance?
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was Highlander. Dexter's just standing on its shoulders.
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wasnt this already a movie? Mindhunters starring Christian Slater and Val Kilmer? and wasn't it crappy then too? Isnt this a rip off of Criminal Minds, Numbers, Millenium, The Profiler, etc?
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I've actually read every Malcom Gladwell book there is (Blink, The Tipping Point, Outliers) except for his new one "What the Dog Saw" so obviously I'm unaware of his statements you've just made us privy to, but I am actually quite surprised that Gladwell wouldn't believe Profiling was at least able to be done. Gladwell seems to truly relish solving things that most people wouldn't be able to solve, using logic. It seems to me that profiling should be right up Gladwell's alley.
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I'm not sure if you guys have actually read all my posts, but the leads in Millennium, The Profiler, The Silence of The Lambs, and Criminal Minds were all created and based solely off of John Douglas himself. So if anything, those shows admittedly ripped this book and the Author John Douglas's life off, not the other way around... So instead of complaining about how this show is ripping those shows off, you should if anything be complaining about how those shows ripped off Mindhunter. You'd think you'd be excited to see "The Original" that started all the hoopla. And cmon, it's going to be written by the guy who writes Dexter= effin cool. With David Fincher??? What's wrong with you all, to be complaining about this!?? Strong source material, strong writer, strong (fingers crossed) director= must see TV in my book! My only question is who's going to play John Douglas...
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WAY overrated. That show would have been more interesting if Dexter had been killing innocent people. You, like REAL serial killers actually do.
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I like the Code that Dexter has. Having self-imposed rules about who and how he kills allows for drama and internal conflict. If he was just a buzzsaw the show would be even more repetitive.
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as much as i love dexter (and i do) it would have been more interesting if every season was based on him almost getting caught (like season 2) and not whats become (how would a serial killer work in regular society?). it would make for better tv the extremes he would go to saciate the dark passenger while covering his tracks, and the whole police body keeping up with little mistakes he makes. instead we get crap like annoying ass rita, deb's love life, etc
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For a great, terrifying book about catching serial killers.
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Dexter was good for about 5 episodes then ........YAWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN. Bring the new show on!
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and it's been on for years.
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compare a show about a guy hunting serial killers to a show about a serial killer. not the same. and as many has said there is already a show like this on cbs minus it's a team not one guy. Just saying.
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Jan 28, 2010 5:38:06 PM CST
What's that show where a team of people catch killers?
by billyeveryteen
Oh right, EVERY show on TV.
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Untrained amateurs have been proven to have come up with better results with common sense and guess work.
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I read this years ago when it forst came out, and it grabbed me from the opening pragraph (I can envision how they will translate that opening to film). The real "Will Graham" from Manhunter, warts and all. Given the folks involved, this should be good, despite the now ubiquitous nature of the subject matter (in general).
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Only a fucktard would think entourage is better than Arrested Development.
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Dexter". Shit bag!! And so are those that follow you!!!
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..oh wait..whatever.
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Gladwell did cook profilers.
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People think HBO is behind the curve on this one and they might have a point but I don't think broadcast TV can do a series based on this subject matter any type of justice. It has to be brutally honest almost to a fault to get it right and I think HBO will do that.
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Game of Thrones!
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I don't watch cop shows. Dexter gets a pass because the serial killer is the star and the Wire gets a pass cause it's the Wire (and hell, Omar is the star). HBO seems to be putting out a lot of shows in order to get some subscribers back (from back when they canceled everything). They did need to focus on quantity, but now they need to get back to quality. Big Love is the only quality show they have now (even if True Blood is a little fun).
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Has the weakest line up right now its ever had. Last season of Entourage was unwatchable sitcom drek. Other than the B story of Jeremy Piven and Garry Cole, which only lasted a few episodes, it was network sitcom material with swearing. Total garbage.
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