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Massawyrm returns from the EDGE OF DARKNESS and proclaims it the return of the Mel Gibson we love!
Hola all. Massawyrm here.
Before you walk into this, you have to ask yourself something. Gibson has been gone for three and a half years; he hasn’t acted (as a lead) in eight. He’s been taking shit steadily since PASSION OF THE CHRIST and became a national joke (at best) after his drunken roadside arrest in 2006. Since then he’s done AA and gotten a divorce. But he has a legendary career filled with classic films and Oscar wins. So with all the shit he’s going to take, all the jaded interviews, all the op-eds about his statements, every bit of tabloid dirt that is going to get tossed around, and a real Hollywood legacy at stake, you have to ask yourself this: how good does a script have to be to get a guy like Gibson to step out in the open and face all that? Once you’ve answered that for yourself, you begin to get an idea of how good EDGE OF DARKNESS really is.
If EDGE OF DARKNESS weren’t a pre-established property based upon a mini-series from the 1980’s (which was, like the film, also directed by Martin Campbell) one might believe it was a film cobbled together with from a series of ideas based upon all of Mel Gibson’s best films. Instead, it is a script that so plays to everything that Gibson does well and loves to star in, that it is incredibly clear why this script resonated with him. It’s about a father who watches his daughter gunned down in front of him, sets out to solve the murder only to uncover a vast conspiracy filled with sinister characters and then has to get some hardcore revenge on some very bad people. Meanwhile, he’s hallucinating moments and conversations with his dead daughter who meant the very world to him. And come on, if there’s one absolute Hollywood law, dating all the way back to MAD MAX, it is that you DO NOT FUCK with Mel Gibson’s family.
This evokes all of the very best moments and ideals of a Mel Gibson movie without ever being so crass as to rip them off. Gibson hasn’t been this good in a LONG time. He comes out swinging in this like he really has something to prove. He seems hungry, and his portrayal of grief-stricken father Craven is incredible. This isn’t just a manly role; it is a MAN’S MAN role. This is a character for The Duke in his prime. Or Yul Brynner. Or Charlton Heston. He’s not a guy you expect to walk up and kick everyone’s ass. He’s the guy who has been kicking everyone’s ass for thirty years and doesn’t take shit from anybody. Craven is simple man, yet a smart man. He loves his daughter, he loves his job and he tries every day to do right by both. And when that goes sour, all he has left is putting a little boot to ass the good old fashioned way.
The film hits all the right notes, playing this as a slow burn thriller light on the score and heavy on the mood. It’s a detective story, one that goes above and beyond that of a simple whodunit. To its credit, just as it seems to be losing a little steam, just as you think it is becoming your typical paint-by-numbers thriller, just as the villains seem a little too mustache-twirly, they drop the bomb on you and lay out an explanation that frankly earns every bit of tension they are trying to build. While it proves to be a simple story, it is one with very nuanced complications.
But taking the film to 11 is Ray Winstone, who shares a handful of really potent scenes with Gibson that are the very heart and soul of the movie. Winstone is fixer, a shadow dwelling string puller who gets called in when things are going really bad – and while he may be seemingly at odds with Gibson’s Craven, he finds something of an unspoken bond with him and the two seem to share one of those classic style “forbidden friendships” built on a mutual respect. Watching these two powerhouses act off of one another is one of those simple joys that we just don’t get to see in filmmaking often enough in this day and age. These scenes have a very Scott Brothers feel to them in terms of their simplicity, elegance and out and out badassery.
Martin Campbell has outdone himself again. Here’s a guy who has a very hit and miss record punctuated by a few truly spectacular movies. This is one of those. Stylish, cool and incredibly well acted, the only complaint this will really garner will be about its pacing – something that noir fans will LOVE. I get why the studio is trying to sell this as TAKEN, what with being thematically similar and all – but it isn’t that kind of film. This is closer to being a spiritual cousin of MYSTIC RIVER, MAN ON FIRE, and THE SEARCHERS. It isn’t so much a film about showcasing action as it is showing a good man put in a very bad situation. But when the film does get down and dirty, it does so with all the trademark hard hitting brutality you’ve come to expect from Campbell.
Easily one of Gibson’s greatest performances, EDGE OF DARKNESS is an absolute must see for anyone who has ever loved Mel Gibson. It’s a film with a script so sharply written the words seem to float off of the page into the film, and while I’m not certain who did more work here – William Monahan or Andrew Bovell (It feels far closer to Monahan’s DEPARTED and KINGDOM OF HEAVEN than anything Bovell has ever worked on), both will no doubt be quite proud to have this as a credit. There’s nary an imperfection to be found. So how good of a script does it take to get Gibson to crawl out of hiding? THIS GOOD. Really fucking good. Highly recommended.
Until next time friends, smoke ‘em if ya got ‘em.
Massawyrm
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ARBEIT MACHT FREI
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I love me some Old School Gibson! and...first?
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I'm really looking forward to this movie? But does this remake have the "Dildo Kissing" scene from the TV MiniSeries? Because, I don't know if I could take Mel seriously if he's crying and kissing a sex toy that had once been in his dead daughters Vagina
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I rock! Mel can be great (Lethal Weapon/Braveheart) or he can be pure crap (What Women Want).
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....well at least I was first with a decent comment to make.
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Good to see hes back on form but he still leaves a bad taste in the mouth
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although it is infuriating that mel gibson makes tasteless racist jokes in the midst of some drunken stupor....its not fair to be completely dismissive of him. He has apologized, and made a completely underrated film...APOCALYPTO, which is really great.
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Been looking forward to this for a while.
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Mel's still got it...he should get back into hard action...but not jokey action a la Lethal Weapon. Hopefully this will jettison him into the lead role in Fury Road.
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Mel has been snorting and boozing and whoring with Ronnie Wood. They both picked up Ruski broads and now live on vodka, cocaine and kicking motherfucking ass.
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I'm looking forward to it.
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Fuck yes! Gibson is one of my fave actors of all time. Sheer screen presence, charisma, and (often overlooked) superb naturalistic acting skills.
This sounds rather like PAYBACK from the tone described. Looking forward to seeing Mel add another iconic hardass to his long and illustrious CV.
(now please George Miller - stop fucking around and cast him in FURY ROAD!!!! You know it makes sense) -
or Jazz Hands
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5H22MGSv-U
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Jan 27, 2010 8:07:24 AM CST
You better not be fucking with us on this. That would be...
by flickapoo
......really mean.
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I'm in. Have been from the first trailer. I'm ready for another 80's/90's hero to return like Stallone or Ford. Hopefully this will be more along the lines of Stallone and not Ford, but we'll see. Massawyrm, you have not let me down yet. So I am JACKED for this release.
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...but that's shot now.This review hit all the right notes.
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Looks ok though.
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If some Joe-blow-nobody went on a tirade against Jews and holocaust denying, most rational people would think he is just some asshole. But, in someways I feel like because Gibson is a movie star we make excuses for him because he has made awesome movies and we have enjoyed watching them. This wasn't a one time outburst from him. There is a history of Jew bashing from Gibson.
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Apocolypto was a great movie. It was sad to see so many critics sell out and regurgitate screed from Political Action Committees' white papers demonizing the movie instead of doing their jobs and giving it a proper review. The same shit is probably going to happen on a lesser extent on this movie.
There's no question that Mel will be able to continue to make movies in Hollywood because 1)he's one of the great directors 2)his movies make money. My concern is that Hollywood special interests will continue to force him into a sort of caricature of violence in every role, so they can both suck money off his blood sweat and tears while suppressing any substantive commentary that he might try to make. Mel has the range both as a director and actor to do more. Hopefully he can make movies he believes in because Lord knows hollywood needs the perspective -
Jan 27, 2010 8:32:36 AM CST
"So with all the shit he’s going to take, all the jaded intervie
by burnhollywood
Sorry, Massa, but I've never seen a more clear-cut case of a movie star who is 100% responsible for the current state of their career and reputation.
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People have any range of social and political opinions. It's not too perplexing if you understand this is America. Alan Dershowitz made racist and sexist comments to Boston reporter Mike Barnicle about Asian women being submissive to him sexually. Where's your outrage over that? Should we disbar Dershowitz and try to ruin his life and legacy? Sarah Silverman went on national TV and "joked" about Chinks then refused to apologize again on national tv. Where's your outrage?
I'm perplexed why despite the fact that Gibson made drunken statements that were BOTH sexist (sugartits) and bigoted you only mention it being "anti-semitic." Is being supposedly anti semitic worse than sexist? The question you should ask yourself is if Gibson had gotten drunk and gotten into an argument with a hispanic or Asian officer, whether that officer would have leaked that information and the media would have crucified him like they did. Not saying getting drunk and talking shit is okay... saying get over it, it has nothing to do with his work. It's not the end of the world it's called living in a free society. -
and unlike State of Play, which was also a miniseries, I felt like watching it would actually be better boiled down to its core two+ hours instead of 6. It just felt too long to me. State of Play, on the other hand, needed every minute of its 6 hours miniseries which made the movie feel a bit empty to me. Still highly enjoyable, but nowhere near as good as the miniseries. I have high hopes for this one though. great review Massa
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In America, yes, absolutely.
How many countries do you know, or how many ethnicities do you know that you could slap "anti" in front of?
Is there an "anti-Chinese"? "Anti-Italian"? "Anti-British"?
Honestly, the only ones I can think of are Anti-American and Anti-Semitic. And they are both grievous sins in America, where the mere accusation has weight. -
I totaly agree with you.growing up in the 80's it's hard to not be a mel gibson fan.i remember watching road warrior constantly as a kid i still consider it one of the best movies ever made.my mom has always loved gibson and this comes out on her birthday so we'll probably be going to see it.i think he's a great actor and director i'm not so concerned with his personal life.i do remember a few years back when his father had made some comments about the holocaust never taking place.and that infuriated me.how fucking stupid do you have to be to say that?
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I hate his accent in the previews and don't know if I can sit through a whole movie of that annoying voice. Matt Damon should have given him some pointers.
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...the guy kicks both righteous and unrighteous ass...and it isn't as though he's a hypocrite in his movies. All his characters are deeply flawed humans. As long as he doesn't actually hurt anybody I want to see him in front of and behind the camera.Frankly, the drunk driving part is much worse than saying stupid shit while intoxicated.
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http://bit.ly/bMirqK - including a discussion of the dildo scene from the original - looking forwards to this movie very much, even though it can't be a patch on the TV original
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...kicking righteous and unrighteous ass (thanks Flicakpoo!) NEVER gets old, and it never did with the Duke either. Can't wait.
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that movie sucked. End of discussion.
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is I am a teacher, if one of my fellow teachers habitually made comments, whether sexist, racist, or just fucking dumb, I would probably have issue with them, it has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with common sense, I would prefer if Gibson did not apologize, because when he did apologize and meet with the Jewish community you know it was insincere, because as I said he has done this more than once. So, what I am saying, is, again, I wouldn't accept that behavior from the people around me, why should I accept it from Gibson. I am not starting a debate, or criticizing people who do like Gibson. I am talking about my personal feelings.
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Gibson's antisemitic outburst might have been less offensive if he hadn't made the Jews the bad guys in PASSION OF THE CHRIST, actually exonerating the Romans to keep the "Christ-killer" stereotype alive. Kinda made it clear his thinking had a pattern to it.
(And don't give me that bullshit that PASSION was based on the gospels...it was actually based on the "visions" of a Catholic mystic)
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Heh. Had to be said :), but having said it, I'm looking forward to this one.
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at the credits, that's for sure. Neither "man" or "itz".
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Jan 27, 2010 9:10:58 AM CST
Campbell is a brilliant director. Good to see Mel back too.
by mr nicholas
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...movie on the horizon.And I can't stop thinking about what he could do with Conan. APOCALYPTO was practically a proof of concept for RED NAILS, and between THE PASSION and BRAVEHEART you've got the rest. Throw in a supernatural creature or two and Robert E. Howard's dusty old bones are orgasming in his grave.
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The difference between Gibson and one of your colleages making such comments is that you don't have to hang around with Mel Gibson. Mel Gibson isn't somebody you know, you don't have to meet with him socially. I too would be shocked and disappointed if one of my friends spoke like this, but in the case of Mel Gibson I don't give a damn. I just watch his movies, the quality lof which has nothing to do with how he is as a person. Are you saying you only want to watch movies by people you like? Put it this way, how many of the movie stars or musical talents do you think you admire that are also racist or a bigot in some way, but just haven't been stupid enough to get drunk and let their personal views about certain members of our society slip? Mel Gibson was caught out, I guarantee there are other people in the business that hold similar views but just haven't blathered on about in a drunken state. (I also agree with what someone said about Sarah Silverman, it seems if you're a comedian you have more freedom to be racist or anti semetic than others. Just don't say anything about black or Jewish people, but the Irish, Asian, French and Female members of our population, well, jusr go right on ahead and say what you like) I will continue to enjoy Mel Gibson's movies, doesn't mean I have to like the man.
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...joke. It was a self deprecating joke...she was the butt. Not Asian people.Anyone who can't understand humor for grownups should stick to the Disney channel.
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I jst said "comedians have more freedom to be anti semetic" and then said "just don't say anything about jewish people" which is a contradiction. Should just be have more licence to be racist or bigots than others
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Should I see it 5 times or 6? I just don't know.
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..Didn't actually see it, just going on what someone else on here said. But the fact remains, comedians do get away with alot more than other kinds of celebrity talents.
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...so I think that's the way to go. Doing my part to restore the balance.
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..but often a comedian would just say something completely racist with no punchline at all and the audience will break a stitch laughing
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So I will go 8, and make the Jews extra happy.
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It's not like Mel assraped a 13 year old girl. A Jewish guy did that.
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...to get out of jury duty so she was trying to think of something offensive to put on that form they send you...she was going to write "I hate chinks". But upon further reflection, she didn't want people to think she was racist, so she decided to change it to "I love chinks".
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Take out the largest life insurance policy you can afford
Make Mel the beneficiary
Kill yourself in a way that can't be proven non-accidental
It's win win
Mel gets toilet paper money
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I have high expectations for this movie and I can't wait until Friday. Does anyone else think January is an odd time to release something like this?
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...to the N-word, you know there would have been a definite backlash.
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I don't know what she said about Asians but rest assured she's no racist. She's an equal opportunity offender, but I don't think has ever really cross the line like Michael Richards did. What he did was out-and-out racist.
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Mel Gibson
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Absolutely. If people don't know the difference between a drunken ass letting his racist beliefs known, and a COMEDIAN doing a bit...there's no help from them.
To take Gibson and Jews out of the discussion. If you had a favorite musician, had all 19 of their DVD's, even some old school import record albums...and you invite a friend over to listen to them.He looks at you and goes, "Hey, you do know this guy is in prison for forcefeeding kittens and puppies (Cute ones!) to children he kept chained in the basement....
Would the music still be as lovely? Objectively, probably. Would you be able to listen to it the same way, or at all? Maybe not.
And no, don't take the comparison of kiddie torture and Gibson's remarks too literally. But this wasn't a one-time offense. Put it together with what we think we know about his father....I am of the belief that a person's true nature comes out when drunk. -
if she hadden't eff'ed the bourne guy
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...carefully. The word she used isn't nice, but it isn't nearly as loaded as your suggestion.
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...normally I'm solitary and grumpy...but my true nature is friendly, horny, and sleepy?
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JEWS!! Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews Jews!!!!! I HATE 'EM, I HATE 'EM, I HATE 'EM!!!
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Sarah Silverman. Natalie Portman. Chelsea Handler. Fuckable Jewish girls. (Chelsea's a half).
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Because I'm big like that.
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way to burn a nic
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...if she knew that using the N-word in that joke would have been disastrous and offensive to that group resulting in a serious backlash to her...why not show Asians the same courtesy? What if she had used the word Kike? Again, since Jews are powerful in Hollywood...that would have also been a bad move. So she chose a group that has very little power to affect her career...isn't that the very definition of racism? Expressing bigotry towards a minority group which lacks the power to do anything about it? Does the fact that it's played for laughs change that? I'm just raising the questions.
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...hurting someone's feelings. The word she used isn't nice, but it just doesn't have the recent violent and hateful past that some other words (and one in particular) have.
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No
You asked if you should see the movie 5 or 6 times
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for proper outrage. But one has to look at the source and the context. You have to give Asians a lot of credit though. As much shit as they have gotten they are damned resilient when it comes to racial issues. A lot more tougher-skinned than other groups, that's for sure.
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He's a fascinating case to me. Having watched the clip (and with no previous evidence that he was racist) I really wonder if he was simply trying (and failing badly) to be an edgy comic. Watching it, you can see him trying to do SOMETHING with what was coming out of his mouth. He simply wasn't any better of a comedian than he is an actor.
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I realize America has a varied history in terms of the different races. Blacks were used for slavery, Asians were used to build the railroads, and so forth...but that's what's kind of effed up about it. IF a comedian like Sarah Silverman is trying to be risque with humour that pushes the envelope...it's kind of a chicken shit move to go after a safe group which she knows can't come after her like if she had used the N-word.
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...off a Peking duck's back. Truly admirable.
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I would tend to agree with you on that. I think Silverman should have used the N-word. And I think it would have been funny.
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Sarah Silverman can be both, very alluring and repulsive
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And there's no excuse for them. I've seen enough shows to know the difference between someone making social commentary and another who is simply hateful. Usually you can judge from the reactions of the people in the audience they are targeting. Some laugh along, but others are clearly offended (and rightfully so) because the joke's not funny and had no basis for being funny regardless of how it was delivered.
I think in Richards' case he had a momentary breakdown of pure racism. We all have prejudices - every one of us. He just gave in to his, and expressed it in a very offensive manner. But is it fair to label him a full-on racist? No ... he has apologized quite sincerely and no one has indicated he showed racist tendencies before. It was a momentary thing and nothing more. -
I liked Payback and frankly, Id rather be the guy hammering the nails.
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Jan 27, 2010 10:02:32 AM CST
A Priest, A Rabbi, And your Harlot Mom walk into a bar...
by nippleeffect
somebody take over
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To bring this back to Mel. If a black friend told me he could no longer watch "Seinfeld" reruns because of Richards, I would understand. So, I don't get people telling Jews to essentially 'get over it'.
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He's Australian. One of the great actors...yes. But technically not an American actor. Just sayin
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if a white heckler had provoked a black comedian and the black comedian had gone of about crackers and trailer park trash
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That's because whites aren't an oppressed minority who were used as slaves and then lynched by certain groups after slavery was abolished. Richards also said something like "50 years we would have strung you up with a fork up your ass!" He's basically saying he should be lynched like in the good ol' days of white racism on blacks.
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Do you know why? As someone who straddles the line, being white and/or Jewish, I can tell you for a fact, that there simply is no word you can call a white person (about being white) that comes ANYWHERE near the hurt that words like nigger or kike do to blacks and Jews.
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I think we have common ground here.
If a black person doesn't want to watch Seinfeld anymore, that's of course his/her choice. Absolutely I can understand they just aren't comfortable anymore watching Richards after what he did. And keep in mind he was sober at the time.
As for Mel, I too can understand if a Jewish person doesn't want to see his movies anymore. I don't expect anyone to *personally* get over it, but I do have a problem with people and organizations publicly chastizing the man forever. That's fruitless and petty. It's not like the NAACP is on Richards' back every day. But again, it's a Jewish person's (or anyone offended by Mel) right to personally boycott him. We totally agree on that. -
Jan 27, 2010 10:19:23 AM CST
Braveheart is the manliest moviever made
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
I have always been a Gibson fan but Braveheart is his masterpiece. Before Gladiator and Saving Private Ryan Gibbo gave us extreme battle scenes that were never confusing, just jaw-dropping. Throw in a few beers and Braveheart gets me out of my chair.
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I would not even think of suggesting a boycott. I might still watch a movie on cable. I just don't think I could shell out money to see him in a theater. But that could be because I'm a cheap Jew.
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or is it because a white audience in modern times isn't going to pull out guns and kill everyone
The slavery ticket carried you so far
This society has evolved
And it's time it started acting like it
No more double standards
If a white guy had grabbed the mic out of a black teenage girls hands like Kanye West did to Taylor Swift. There.Would.Have.Been.Riots. -
Just remembering how much I loved the directors cut of payback! I love mel in those frantic revenge roles. I get the feeling this is going to be similar! Helgalund needs to direct another action movie, he's an awesome writer, but payback was so fricken awesome!!
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The slavery ticket has carried me? I'm not even black and I'm being carried by a slavery ticket? I didn't even know there was a slavery ticket...gee, ...thanks for enlightening me, NippleEffect. I can tell that you're an intellectual.
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Jan 27, 2010 10:26:33 AM CST
Yes, I'm Jewish, and yes I'm conflicted about this
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
If I boycotted every product or service that I suspected was created by people with anti-Semitic feelings, then it would be a very bland life. But I don't just suspect Gibson, I know. And that's the difference. I aint gonna throw away his old movies that I have, but I'm not rushing out to give him my money either. Bottom line, I'll pirate the motherfucker.
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Mic, Wop, blah blah blah
Grow some calluses
Those words only have power if you give it to them
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Jan 27, 2010 10:27:56 AM CST
I've said it before. I am Jewish yet Gibbo gets a pass
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
Polanski does not. Drunken ignorance, or even sober ignorance is not a crime. Bigot's and hypocrites I can handle, rapists I cannot. Any cunt who would boycott his films had better also boycott all Disney films. Walt was widely known as an anti-semite, but he gets a pass because of Bambi? I'd take Apocalypto and Mad Max anyday over The Fox and the Hound.
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I can spot that intellect miles away.
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I feel you. More power to you. I'm pretty discerning about where I spend my entertainment bucks too. Frugality is a universal trait.
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I think Ive been insulted
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God, Danny Glover was great once. I love when Mel pulls down the fuckin hill house.
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10 out of fucking 10 for Braveheart Mr Gibson, bravo.
I dont give 2 fucks who you like or dislike. Mel is a legend and he does not get the respect he deserves. For fuck sake, everyone makes mistakes and we are all humanoids the last time I checked. -
Get a jewish or black comedian to perform his act in front of a live audience. Judge the reaction. Laughs right? Now get a white protestant to perform the same act, making changes where appropriate (e.g "white guys drives like this" change to "black guys drive like this") Judge the reaction. Booing and outrage I bet, and a spot on the 9 o clock news. I'm Irish catholic and my girlfriend is Malaysian. Everything I turn on the T.V at least one of us is going to be the subject or comedy or tastelessly taken the piss out of. I'm not complaining. I know the difference between racist joke, and one made to highlight the ignorance of a racist person (Sarah Silvermans joke clearly falling into the latter catagoery). My issue is that it seems to be alright to use certain races, religions or cultures as the subject of your comedy, but not others. Either it is all okay or none of it is. If you can make fun of some people, such as the Irish or Asian communties for example, but not others, then that is not equality. That's what I find offensive, not the jokes themselves.
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But that's the question, isn't it? Did Mel 'make a mistake' or did we get a glimpse at what and who Mel Gibson really is?
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I'm of the opinion that until we can make jokes and errogatory comments about each other without people going apeshit crazy and calling for people lives to be ruined, we will continue to have problems between the races. I'm not excusing what Gibson said, but it is pretty ridiculous that every talkback regarding Gibson degenerates into this. I mean really, who gives a shit?
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People used to think nothing of saying things like:
"You have to move to Texas to learn to appreciate niggers"
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"You have to live long enough, to see stupidity die off. Like any disease." -
Jan 27, 2010 10:40:46 AM CST
I know Master Yoda... I picked it up last week
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
along with The Thing and Poltergeist
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I'll boycott whatever the fuck i want to. And plenty of people avoided Disney for the same fucking reason. Getting drunk aint a free pass. Getting drunk just loosens your inhibitions and lets out what you tried to keep hidden. But assholes who never took a drink or sniffed a pussy would never know that.
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Touche Nomoredirty....You chose wisely.
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Freebeer you must eat damned well at home. I like Malaysian curry chicken.
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I'm liberal in most respects. I've always been a proponent of diversity, tolerance, and respect.But the guy's a blazingly good actor and director. He's terrifically talented. And he's created many classic works and stirring performances.I admire and enjoy his work, even as I accept its flaws and his personal flaws.Because they're the same kinds of flaws we all have. If you don't accept that, you're lying to yourself.To me, Gibson's 'offenses' and the offense taken in return show how poisonous the application of religion in our society can be. Without everyone divvying up into sacred camps, none of this 'offense' exists.
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Jan 27, 2010 10:50:33 AM CST
I have never heard an anti-Malaysian or any Malayasian joke
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
Heard some Tiger Woods jokes though
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But I'm not religious. To me it's not an issue of religion or camps. It's simply not being willing to give someone money out of my pocket after finding out that he, even though he has never met me, hates me.
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as long as *I* have enough money to buy a much needed liver
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He wasn't born in Australia. He born in New York state and lived in the US for the first 12 years of his life, until moving to Australia.
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An (for the most part) amazingly civil discussion considering the subject matter. Just passed through Malaysia a month or two ago. Amazing food. Currently in the Philippines. Food...not so good.Shalom, y'all.
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but now you wonder if it's an act
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I mean, look at his long relationship with Richard Donner, who is Jewish. I'm just clarifying and putting Mel in context here - you be the judge. Not saying you should buy tickets to Edge of Darkness, but simply saying I don't think Mel hates someone for what they are.
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Leathal Weapon, Mad Max, and their sorry sequels for action.Forever Young and Maverick for humor/feel good fun.Ransom and Signs for modern day thrils.The Passion of the Christ ( YES, it's a great film), Apacalypto, and frickin BRAVEHEART for director....He made some dumb statements 4 years ago when drunk, has apologized repeatedly for it, and done his best to make ammends. We all have prejudices of some form, he just got caught drunk and let it out.Get over it.
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Jan 27, 2010 11:03:58 AM CST
You can use people you hate to get ahead in life
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
Working with Jews -especially in Hollywood, until he had the power and money to make it on his own, means jackshit about his true feelings - which he revealed while drunk.
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Even Archie Bunker used a Jewish lawyer. Ribinowitz, Ribinowitz, and Ribinowitz. Doesn't mean he liked them.
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The most powerful modern organisation dedicated solely to the masking of homosexuality
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Absolutely cannot wait. Whatever he says or does off-screen, the man has never put in a duff performance. Duff films? Yes, occasionally, but never down to his acting. The man has been away too long so, again, can't wait!!
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Jan 27, 2010 11:12:35 AM CST
Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass... Thats fine man
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
to each his own. Polanski too has defenders, but I wouldn't claim them to be wrong for it. It's a personal thing I guess. I would never even try to defend Gibbo's demons, just his talent.
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At least the Easter Bunny is real...Right? Right?
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Jan 27, 2010 11:17:50 AM CST
People let talent excuse any failing
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
In athletes, in hollywood stars. It's not right.
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judging the guy by his own ultra-catholic standards
He should be shunned
And that's one of the biblical punishment's you can visit upon someone
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about Michael Bay and Republicans then Gibson ever said about the Hebes.
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Jan 27, 2010 11:24:53 AM CST
I love this 'he must be an anti-semite because he said it when h
by sly_stallones_cock_vein
What horseshit. Being drunk does not equal automatically revealing your true thoughts and values. Give the guy a break.
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Mad Max 1,2 & 3. Gallipoli. The Year of Living Dangerously. Lethal Weapon 1 & 2(even 3 & 4 are entertaining schlock). The Bounty. Air America. The River. Maverick. Braveheart. Forever Young. Conspiracy Theory. Ransom. Payback. Chicken Run. The Patriot. We Were Soldiers. Signs.
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Jan 27, 2010 11:28:41 AM CST
Hey_Kobe... Yeah that Tiger Woods guy gets away with it all
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
Mel has paid his dues... I was pissed myself at first, but I got over it. It's not like he raped anyone.
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I have it on good authority.
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I feel like Mel is that friend who still has some wrong and backwards thoughts swirling through his head bc of the way he was raised by his dad. But he knows they're wrong and he keeps all those wrong thoughts inside and to himself... That is, until he gets shitfaced, which is rare, but when he does he turns into an asshole. But I'll still see him when he acts bc of our past experiences and bc he's just so damn good.
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Sounds good to me. Looks like this will be very badass. And I'm glad to hear that Mel Gibson isn't rusty at all.
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...he didn't shoot no deputy.
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And I was so excited...
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It's good to hear that this flick is not like TAKEN, as that was such a paint by the numbers predictable pile of dung. As for Mel, I thought his APOCALYPTO was brilliant and the best film I have seen since it's release. Too bad he had to get drunk and say all that weird crap, but then he must of been indoctrinated with that idealology since birth. His dad sounds like a major tool.
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30 years of jerking you off about yeah the next mad max movie is coming out right after my next movie
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Broseph, thanks mate.
I feel the same way, I honestly don't give a fuck about Mel's private life. When I watch a movie im not watching the actor i'm watching their character, Martin Riggs or Max Rockatansky or whoever.
None of these Hollywood types are saints - and if they were you'd probably take issue with them for being a goody goody.
For all I know Mel made the comments to get a rise out of the person. Perhaps if they'd been fat he'd have used that. Perhaps if they'd worn glasses he'd have used that. I don't really know enough about it, but it seems Mel did apologize for his moment of madness once he sobered up. Seems like a 'storm in a teacup' to me. -
such an intense and brutal chase film. That viking film he's directing sounds really boss too, though I'm disappointed that the eunuch DiCaprio is being cast in it. Hopefully his Old English isn't too bad.
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that is January? Punishment..?
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Does the movie have Eric Clapton's haunting theme music?
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You can say a lot of things about Mel, but you can't say he's not devout.
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I was in a parking lot with Mr. Parker and she started running her mouth about getting off her boyfriends car. She wished she had kept her mouth shut after he planted his forehead in her face. It was classic.
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They killed his messiah. Now, he will fuck their shit up.
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I did it one spring break bc it was the only movie in the condo. Drink every time a phone rings or Mel says something along the lines of GIMME BACK MY SON! Oy I did a lot of throwing up that night along the A1A.
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I was drinking vodka instead of beer. Not a wise choice.
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The Romans were the real total scumbags in that movie. The film went harder on THEM. On EMPIRE. Which was awesomely cool with the authenticity & dialogue in that 'scourging at the Pilar'. Passion of the Christ showed in gruelingly stark terms how psychopathic ancient Rome really was, & I'm amazed not enough people were getting that out of the movie...
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He is one of the greatest film makers working today, and his last two films should have been nominated for Academy Awards for best picture. So what if he got drunk, and opened his mouth too wide? How many of us in the privacy of our own homes spout off similar things, or perhaps worse? Did he rape a 13 year girl and flee the country? Nope..That Jewish director won an Academy award for "The Pianist"....Did he have sex with his adopted daughter? Nope that was another Jewish director..also nominated for Academy awards....His "words" were those of a drunken idiot, but honestly I don't see how that is worse than raping a child? You have to be a moron to think that. Of course this country is full of morons...Mel Gibson + Viking movie = my most anticapted movie besides Marvels/Branaghs Thor....Cannot wait!! Edge of Darkness looks like old school, pissed off Mel, doing smoldering crazy, kicking ass and taking names...two tickets please....
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I'm getting a fucking iPad. Sweetness.
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Are you sPotting?
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Movie producer Dean Devlin said he and his wife are Jewish, and he considers Gibson to be one of his best friends in Hollywood. "If Mel is an anti-Semite, then he spends a lot of time with us, which makes no sense," Devlin told the Los Angeles Times. Plenty of other respectable folks in Hollwood who *actually* know Mel stepped forward to defend him as well including Patrick Swayze (may he rest in peace).
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Jan 27, 2010 1:26:51 PM CST
So what if Mel's fucked in the head and hates you Jews
by backfromthedead
I'm still prepared to give this fucker a go. Besides I like Martin Campbell's 2 Bond movies.
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months and save yourself about $150...BTW, no one's done "GIVE ME BACK MY SUGARTITS!"..
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If he's alright with Swayze, he's alright with me.
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I'm not a Macphile but I did get an iPod Touch recently and love the thing. If I weren't on Sprint I'd probably get the iPhone. The iPad looks impressive and will be the first Mac I get. Most definitely a game changer. I may be a convert yet ...
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Ya I might wait for the 64GB version to price drop ... don't want to settle for 16. I'll bet Jeff Bezos is pissing his pants right now. Rightfully so.
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BECAUSE, I'M AN ANTI-SEMITIC LIGHTWEIGHT! HEY, WHAT BRAND OF BEER IS THIS? IT BETTER NOT BE HE-BREW!
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R.I.P. Kindle
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Its like the iPod, but less portable. $500 please.
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Kept the dildo scene, but please don't ruin it for me. I want my first time to be with Mel.
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Plus it sounds like a sanitary product. "New from Apple - now you can watch You Tube and soak up your menstrual discharge with the same device"
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dooouucchhe..I just love that bit, sorry.
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Jan 27, 2010 4:07:05 PM CST
Other hot Jewish chicks: Mila Kunis and Rashida Jones
by backrivercatfish
I think Mel's a hypocritical asshole but I wanna see this movie!
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Now I have felt that Mr. Gibson and his advisors were incredibly stupid not to show up at a temple on Rosh Hashanah to apologize. It is the day of atonement for Jews. It would have gone pretty far in showing he really cared about clearing up the major stupidity he started with that police stop.
Also, I always felt that Apocalypto was a remake of The Naked Prey. Especially after seeing the guy who co-wrote it had no real experience.
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something something something catholics and child rape. heh.
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This movie is gonna rock. Plus it's got Ray Winstone!
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If he's fucking shit up in this, then why can't he fuck shit up as Max one more time. For me, Mel not doing Mad Max is worse than how bad the Star Wars prequels turned out, as far as movie stuff is concerned. Could have been so awesome...
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not that Mel would give a shit
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But you have to admit, if he did do it, it would show far more sensitivity and contrition that what little he has done (has he done anything?).
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He obviously came out and apologized, he met with a group of Jewish community leaders, and something else, cant remember....
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That would've been the best PR-wise.
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The miniseries was over-rated anti-Thatcher, anti-Reagan anti-nuke crap. Odds are it's being pitched like a thriller because they know that agenda won't (updated of course) just won't sell.
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I was raised a Catholic, just like Mr. Gibson. I did have a fair exposure to the world at large, though not nearly the opportunities Mr. Gibson has had. So, even I, with a similar background and less opportunity could see a better path to mend fences than just meet with leaders and pretend it was just alcohol doing the talking. In my opinion, a real man, a true human being would have gone out of his way to correct his error and done his best to accommodate the feelings of those he hurt and his own religion with a sincere act of contrition. This is where I feel he has fallen short, by ignoring a tradition which would have helped him and made those he hurt recognize his sincerity. Maybe he will in the future, I hope he will.
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lot of people can do pretend
Many of them will be appreciative
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I'm not disagreeing with you.Though in one sense it could come off as overy theatrical on his part to make some big plea on Yom Kippur...like when Ja Rule had to get Minister Farakhan to broker a peace between him and 50 Cent...Some things the public can read as just BS moves for the PR and to make it all a big deal.I think it would've just seemed like overkill and that Mel was going out of his way to get this chain off his neck...which wasn't gonna happen. That takes time and only time. (for some, others will never forgive)
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his face kept growing long after the rest of him stopped
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Still married to AT&T and no microSD expandable storage...I'll hold out for the 'Droid version.
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If that ain't atonement I don't know what is. Some people really love their pork.
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As for wireless I'm anticipating the Palm Pre Plus coming to Sprint. And it had better, soon. It has mobile 3G hotspot, so by default I'll have 3G access on the iPad for free - if that works out. The name does suck balls though but everybody knew it was coming. Palm Pre's WebOS, a Touch and an iPad. I'll be well equipped for talkbacking for sure.
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I think Lang The Cat put it best, which is that if Gibson was sincere he would have found better ways to mend the damage he did.
I think it's obvious he got his anti-semitism from his father, his father denied the Holocaust and apparently Mel once said about this "my dad never says anything wrong", etc.
It's no way a coincidence that Mel decided to make the villains in his movie the very most destructive form of anti-semitism ever- by trying to portray Jews as the very worst kind of people, and this "Christ" killer stuff is what made it easy for people like Hitler to get away with what he got away with.
Usually, people that are anti-semites have other psychological issues, and Mel is clearly no exception. The man has serious problems with alcohol, he starts his own church then hangs out at strips clubs, then is hanging out with a woman half his age, then gets explosively angry at the people at his own church that he built telling them to mind their own business and not talk about him- i.e. "It's my church and I'll be a hypocrite if I want to, plus I'll use my power to intimidate you as well just like I said about Jews, and just like I said in the back of the cop car "I own Malibu!".
The guy has serious issues, and I don't believe he has truly worked them out.
Anti-semitism is a symptom of deeper psychological issues.
By the way, I've seen almost every one of his movies, and I love a LOT of them. I'm not an idiot, I can regocnize a great movie when I see it. Let's not forget though that Braveheart for example is also the product of great cinematographers, music composers, writers, and actors and actresses, all of whom do not have the name "Mel Gibson".
Anyway, I still think a lot of "his" movies are great, but let's remember how many Jewish people MADE his career possible, (or is this the one time Mel Gibson will say the Jews DON'T have any power in Hollywood, it was really allllllllllllllllllllll him who got him where he is today)control and how he stabs those very people in the back.
Mel, I hope you realize you have many people out there who respect your work, and would respect you even more and enjoy your films more if you showed that you were truly not anti-semitic.
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The reality during the time of
Christ was that TONS of Jews were crucified by the Romans, but no religion was made from that. Jewish people did not decide to deify any of those very real and very innocent people who were murdered and crucified by the Romans, and Jewish people did not decide to make a religion that declares the Romans as "Jew Killers" yet Gibson, two thousand years later, and 6 million murdered Jews later, still hasn't had his fill, he decides to deny the Holocaust and pick the very most brutal bloody and savage portrayal of the death of Jesus and he also decides to go with the very most "hate filled against the Jews" version of this story.
I'd like to create my own movie, where Mel Gibson is this evil plotter who really IS filled with hate, who makes a movie knowing full well the power of propaganda and hate, and knowing full well how Hitler used propaganda to help along with his "FINAL solution".
Yes, a movie where things are actgually TRUE, where Mel Gibson is portrayed for who he REALLY is.
So this would be a true story. Maybe it can be the beginning of a new bloody religion that has a bloody story to it, full of blood and violence, that's the kind of thing Mel Gibson likes, and then endorse it all as Holy. -
I'm not a huge fan of religion, and so I do NOT want to actually start a religion, that part at the end was a joke. I think less religion and less people "in charge" of anything is a GOOD idea. Power corrupts, and absolutel power corrupts absolutely. Notice also how Mel only revealed how anti-semitic he was AFTER he became powerful in Hollywood, not before. This is not a coincidence- too much power is dangerous, especially in the hands of a person who is already not very stable.
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Jesus was a jew.His disciples and followers were Jews.The religious authorities and leaders of the day were jews.The history took place in Israel where the people are...jewish.It's not "hate" to portray what happened.If it were flipped, and Jesus was german, his disciples german, and the religious leaders who had him crucified german, it'd be stupid to say that a film depicting those events was "anti-german", wouldn't it?Mel himself has issues and I know he's the director, but the film itself is not an anti-semetic film.Seeing as the hero and all his supporters are Jewish, how could it be?Plus, Jesus is God fool. That's why He gets his own movie over the other schmucks who were crucified. :)
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fuled by enough vodka
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and the russian golddigger that whelped it
Me I got my eye on this Czech chick
SHE SAYS SHE LOVES ME IN EMAIL!
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What films are you choosing to see? Which Hollywood mavens are you choosing to give your money to? Do you examine who's producing, directing, and otherwise financially contributing to every film you see? Do you look into the financial holdings of said parties, and examine their ethics & business practices? Do you have psychological profiles of all of the leading actors & crew involved in every film you see?Or do you just casually avoid someone who appears to be bigoted in one specific way which offends you personally, if said offense has been made public and prominent in the media, saving you any time or energy in actually critically examining all the items listed above, which are every bit as significant, and probably much more so, than Gibson's issues?Because if that's the case, you're just being lazy hypocrites by decrying this one man's flaws.
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... it's interesting. All the people who are trashing Mel -- and he did bad things, to be sure -- isn't it clear that you don't know what secrets ANY celebrity has? Maybe next year it'll be Jon Stewart, or Bono, or Rahm Immanuel. I'm just sayin'.
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I recommend the pastrami/corn beef combo on rye. And a square potato knish.
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But, oddly enough, he loves JarJar
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Mr Devlin, you do realise unlike the average Jewish person, you are rich and powerful in Hollywood, right? That can tend to alter things.
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because of how it's locked down. if this becomes the wave of the future then be prepared to have to always pay a service or download fee for every thing you ever put on any electronic device again.. sure there will always be people finding ways to crack the firmware to open up the device, but that shouldn't have to be the only way to get an open device.
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with psychological issues. Obsessive compulsive much?
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First off, I would KILL for a knish. With the spicy brown deli mustard. Second. I'm not being a hypocrite. I'm not telling anyone to boycott his movies. Everyone can make up their own mind. I am simply saying I have problems watching a movie made by someone or starring someone that I pretty much know does not like me or any of my extended family.If you know me and don't like me, well, then that's just good judgement, isn't it?Of course Hollywood types, as are sports stars, are a mixed bag of scumbags. I've never been a fan of Tiger, but his affairs have nothing to do with me. Nor does Letterman letting the schlong loose have anything to do with me. No, I don't have full time private detectives digging up dirt on movie stars to find out which ones I should not like. But when one is stupid enough to let me in on his hateful views, I will have a reaction. KevRed or anyone else, when Mel has another drunken 'mistake' and this time calls your mother and sister 'cum-guzzling whores' how would you like other people telling you 'just get over it'?
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..Then Mel can certainly still be Mad Max
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This will be a turd then. I want my 2 hours and money back for that shitty review.
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I just played the State of the Union drinking game.
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Jan 27, 2010 10:01:14 PM CST
all the 'gay' tabloids said it's not that good
by beyondthunderdome2girls1cupbillcosby
therefore it must be f'n awesome. Mel Gibson rules.
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Is that if a woman called a man "sugardick" he'd think it a complement. It's not quite like saying, for instance, "Stupid c###" or "nigger" or something.
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... he's so sorry for your big noses, and your dirty, underhanded ways.
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Ahem...
Whatever you do, don't question a jew, or that he-brew, will make your life poo.
PS- All I've said is true!!!
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That's probably because she's dead, asshole. I imagine, were she still alive, she could manage them just fine.
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Jan 28, 2010 3:11:33 AM CST
Sorry but FUCK Mel Gibson's racist ass
by itraveledbackintimetoteabagabrahamlincol
http://www.youtube .com/watch?v= Blr8mYopyn4
FUCK MEL GIBSON. I don't give a fuck whether this is his best performance in decades. He is a fuckhead racist fraud. Burn in hell asshole. -
Based on that statement I would say he didn't go to AA. What does the 2nd "A" stand for again?
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This guy is one of the top directors making action. He knows how to make them. Damn good dramatic director too.
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He was beyond incredible in THE PROPOSITION. My favorite actor in that movie, in a movie filled to the grills with quality actors.
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This one has looked good from the first trailer.Mel is back, and i think the Fury road people have done
a big mistake.
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Get over it already.
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So you're no William Faulkner. Who is?
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Just call me the Jimmy Carter of talkbacks because I'm all about peacemaking.
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is indeed a far worse offence than drunk talk!!!
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forgivable is Hollywood, but name calling is bang out of order apparently. I'm very tired of this whole persecution complex thing. Driving while goosed was Mel's only wrong doing. Everything else is freedom of speech, baby.
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boys can't get away with jack shit!!!
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Where it starts off with a simple killing, escalates to international intrigue, and eventually has global implications featuring corruption at the highest levels. Yawn. Come up with something new, Hollywood. Next thing you know there'll be a corporation behind it...
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I wonder if it bothers you that, yes, in fact your mother and sister, and 90% of all women over the age of 18, prolly have chugged down pints o' steamy manmilk.
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I wonder if it bothers you that, yes, in fact your mother and sister, and 90% of all women over the age of 18, prolly have chugged down pints o' steamy manmilk.
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only badassier.
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I don't have to get over shit. This isn't angry alcoholic ego maniac Mel of 4 years ago. This is Mel Gibson 2 days ago, bullying around a reporter asking a valid question about his past remarks. Gibson should be on his knees in embarrassment for being a self righteous racist prick. That Nazi can suck on my tailpipe and die.
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There's only one person who mannaged to be more bad ass then Mel Gibson in PAYBACK, and that was Lee Marvin in POINT BREAK.
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Jan 28, 2010 11:13:11 AM CST
And PAYBACK is only worth watching in the director's cut version
by asimovlives
The theatrical cut looks a joke in comparison.
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Listen. I can see why you're angry and offended. But step back for one second and look at it from the Nazi's point of view.
It has been years since the drunk incident, Mel has been wrongly vilified by the media ad nauseum. But amends were made, and the time has been long past for everybody to just let bygones be bygones.
But this fucking weasel has the audacity to dredge up this shit so he can do what? Drum up some controversy at Mel's expense? Fuck that. He doesn't have to stand for that sensationalistic tabloid bullshit and neither does anyone else.
Sam Ruben got off easy. He was acting like a paparazzi and you know what paparazzis get. Punched.
So ask yourself a question. Did Mel refuse the interview because the guy was Jewish? Obviously not. Did he sit down in a friendly way to talk to this asshole? Sure did.
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Did Mel go to jail for his comments? He can say what the fuckever he wants. But if you say something offensive or controversial, you're opening yourself up to take some heat for it from somebody. It has nothing to do with freedom of speech. This is basic, simple shit.
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i don't give much of a rats ass how weird he is. he's not tom cruise. and harrison ford's a crabby asshole who looks ghey in an earring. sfw. i love movies.
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don't think we'll be seeing you for too much longer.
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After Ransom, The Patriot, Mad Max, and Lethal Weapon 2, Braveheart, and The Edge of Darkness, I can't handle any more!
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ridiculous. I only saw theatrical, and that was crazy.
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Are you sure you don't mean Prime Cut. One of the mobsters gets sent back to his boss in the forms of sausages.
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Binks, I think Asi actually got his words confused.
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and godspeed to you in your efforts. i was just a little surprised by the passion of your vitriolic reaction. but, you know "i'll fight to the death for your right to say it" and all...
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If you can buck up and watch a Polanski flick, you can certainly buck up and watch a Gibson flick. Jew hating asshole > Child rapist any day of the week and twice on Shabbos!!!!!
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... to make up for his drunken rant. He publicly apologized, met with Jewish leaders, and no less a watchdog than Abe Foxman, leader of the Anti-Defamation League, declared that the apology was sincere and he was satisfied. What more do you want? Furthermore, I'm a conservative Catholic Republican. How many people in Hollywood do you think would hate me if they knew me? (Judging from the vitriol spewed on these very talkbacks, plenty of people right here do!) But I wouldn't dream of boycotting them. I'm not judging you for doing so, but maybe you can see my point too. You miss out on a lot of good stuff if you avoid those you don't personally like.
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I see where you're coming from, but you seem to operate under the mistaken impression that writing for Harry is the only thing I do and that I'm not employed by three other places, doing this for a living. If I've mentioned my professional status, it was not meant as a brag, but no doubt a cheap segway getting me from one idea to the next. Nothing more. After writing for this site for nearly 9 years, I've long given up trying to impress anybody.
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I should be ashamed to have made such a crass mistake about the title of one of my favorite movies. Shame on me! Shame on me!
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Yeah, the movie i wanted to refer above is POINT BLANK. It's a tremendous movie. Lee Marvin at his best, and a great directing job by John Boorman. To this day people are strill confused and ambigious about if the movei is a dream or just an hyper-stylized thriller. And that not being sure is part of it's fun. Damn great movie.And i'm going to tell you, the director's cut of PAYBACK is a man's movie. Complete badass from start to finish. no atempts to make Gibson's character nicer. No sir, he's bad to the bone from begining to end. And way closer to the spirit of the book THE HUNTER from which it's based. I should know, i read it. If you want to watch PAYBACK, the director's cut is the only way. Accept no substitutes.
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Jan 28, 2010 4:13:08 PM CST
This whole thing is f’ing ridiculous! He’d been better off yelli
by gqtaste
This whole thing is f’ing ridiculous! He’d been better off yelling at a black, female, gay, cop! Sadly anybody else but a jew in that industry when they rule the damn thing. When I got my dui I ripped the cop who took me to jail and let the other friends in the car drive away just as shitfaced.
Like I said it just shows how much power the jews have over the entire media actually, not just Hollywood. Who are the ones who run the studios? The Newspapers, the reporters, the writers, directors, actors, anchors, editors, et al? The Jewish folk that’s who and they don’t forget and they blackball and play dirty! This whole thing is crazy w/ all the other shit that’s going on I remember Ari Emanuel the agent a month before taking up for the head of hbo for beating his girlfriend on the Huffingtonpost and arguing how he needed another chance, who bytheway and beaten other women before. Then a month later Mel’s situation happened and Ari Emanuel came out on that same website and wanted to blackball Gibson for life b/c of he screamed at a Jewish cop. You see how this works right?
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Jan 28, 2010 4:19:58 PM CST
Here is the blog Ari wrote on shuning Gibson and calling out oth
by gqtaste
It is one thing when marginal figures with no credibility make anti-Semitic statements. It is a completely different thing when a figure of Mel Gibson's stature does so. Even when he sobers up and apologizes.
According to the handwritten report of the deputy who pulled Gibson over, published by TMZ.com, after he was arrested Gibson launched into an anti-Semitic tirade, saying: "Fucking Jews... The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world." Gibson then asked the deputy, "Are you a Jew?"
At a time of escalating tensions in the world, the entertainment industry cannot idly stand by and allow Mel Gibson to get away with such tragically inflammatory statements. When The Passion of the Christ came out, Gibson was quoted as categorically denying any anti-Semitism attributed to him: "For me, it goes against the tenets of my faith, to be racist in any form. To be anti-Semitic is a sin. It's been condemned by one Papal Council after another. There's encyclicals on it, which is, you know -- to be anti-Semitic is to be unchristian, and I'm not."
Now we know the truth. And no amount of publicist-approved contrition can paper it over. People in the entertainment community, whether Jew or gentile, need to demonstrate that they understand how much is at stake in this by professionally shunning Mel Gibson and refusing to work with him, even if it means a sacrifice to their bottom line.
There are times in history when standing up against bigotry and racism is more important than money.
http://tinyurl.com/s76u6
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Jan 28, 2010 4:26:40 PM CST
And here is his blog on the head of HBO, quite different titled
by gqtaste
And here is his blog on the head of HBO, quite different titled “In Defense of Chris Albrecht."
Chris Albrecht is my friend, and I'm appalled at the way he has been treated by the press. He is an alcoholic who fell off the wagon and made a terrible mistake. No one is arguing that. What happened outside the MGM Grand is inexcusable -- and Chris has expressed his deep regret about it. But that wasn't enough for those in the press who dug up a 16 year old incident, dusted off the cobwebs covering it, and suddenly created "a pattern" of behavior that required the delivery of Chris' head on a platter.
Chris Albrecht, like the rest of us, is not a perfect person. But he is a brilliant executive who helped turn HBO from a place to watch movies, stand-up comedy, and boxing into the home for some of the most creative and challenging original programming in the history of television. He has an amazing eye for talent, the ability to nurture that talent, and the patience to let outside-the-box shows find their audience. Without him, we wouldn't have had The Sopranos, Sex and the City, Six Feet Under, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Entourage, or Everyone Loves Raymond (which HBO produced).
Having worked with HBO a great deal over the years, I can testify that it is not, as has been portrayed in the press, an "old boys' club" -- just ask Carolyn Strauss, Sheila Nevins, or any of the other high-powered female executives who work there.
Ours has traditionally been a very forgiving culture. If Hollywood is going to give Mel Gibson a second chance, and sports fans are going to cheer on stars like Jason Kidd, Latrell Sprewell, and Stephen Jackson who have made similar mistakes, why not Chris Albrecht?
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What a shocker a jew who takes up for another jew. And talking out of both sides of his ass about alcoholics. This is how ‘they’ role w/ double standards sadly so for all you out there who don’t realize how big of a double standard there are you’ve just been shown proof how bad it is. Like I stated before Mel would have been better off telling a black, gay, female cop. -
...I learned that the source material mini-series it was based on was written by some British eco-hippie who wanted to make a negative statement about nuclear power.I'm not making this up; the original writer for the mini-series wanted the show to end with the detective main character turning into a tree, as some sort of weird metaphor for mankind's need to return to nature. I shit you not.No thanks, I have to watch eco-green garbage in every commercial and in almost every movie nowadays. I'm not going to pay to watch it.
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... is doing something right. Can't wait to see the original show.
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typical of a gang of Jews would do? Polanski raped a child and now this. You make them sound like a despicable sort altogether.
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it's already copyrighted.
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to shun Gibson? How fucked up are you?
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And how they keep rubbing it in, as if they are paradogms of virtue. Always good for a laugh. Some people are in terrible need to self-justify at other's people failings.
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