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Orlando Bloom Talks About Whether He'll Be In PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: ON STRANGER TIDES...
Merrick here...
We've heard for a while now that it was unlikely that Orlando Bloom would return to the PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN franchise for a fourth installment; this assumption has been reflected in the press for some time, including THIS recent report.
Still, given the nutty nature of the PotC films to date...and that stars often express their lack of desire to return for sequels in order to increase monetary enticement to do so...many folks were wondering if it might still be possible to see Will Turner once more.
MTV spoke with Orlando directly at Sundance, and hit him with the question. The answer: a definitive no.
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So, no Orlando. As Keira Knightley's already said she doesn't want to do any further films, we're left with Depp and presumably/possibly Geoffrey Rush under the direction of Rob Marshall (CHICAGO, MEMOIRS OF A GEISHA, NINE). And, of course, an array of new characters.
More to come as more comes in...
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nowhere to go but up
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zzzzzzzzzzzzz
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I mean, he has so much going on with all of his movies and his current popularity and the demand for his ability to turn any role into something dull and wooden.
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Who is thinking to himself/herself, "Son of a motherfucking bitch! I aint seeing that piece of shit Depp vehicle without Orlando thigh-tingling Bloom!"
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Foxtrot had it right.
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Flaming gay director and action franchise...
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It wasn't like Jack Sparrow came off very straight to begain with...
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Orlando Bloom sucks rotten taints.
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and LOTR. Everything else he's sucked in. And let's not pretend to think that POTC belongs to anybody but Depp. Did anybody even give a shit about Bloom or Knightley in the series?
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this info was known years ago. The Will Turner/Elizabeth Swann storyline was already wrapped up. I think Merrick just has a Orlando Bloom fetish.
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Not because it was an objectively good movie, but because it was probably the most surreal Hollywood blockbuster film of all time.
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If you watch after the credits in part 3 he doesn't return home for many years and when he does Elizabeth is there with his kid.
I mean, I guess they could write around it, but to me it seemed kind of like a (sloppy, weird off base)way to wrap up their storyline.
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I think the mismanaged things in part 2 and 3. What was cool about Jack in part one was that he never lied. Everyone assumed he was lying but he was actually pretty honest. He also acted drunk and goofy so people would underestimate him, then when he got the chance to fight or fly he manned up alot.
But in 2 and 3 he was dishonest, drunk and truly weird. I didn't care that as much as I did the clever Jack in the first film. -
Orlando and Keria were the worst part of the PotC films.
Long live Jack Sparrow!!
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it's a good thing not to have Orlando Bloom on board.
It will give him time to focus on roles that take advantage of his resemblance with androgynous creatures that live in a middle age/fantasy land.
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And also, I'd rather get some new characters. The two sequels weren't very good and I'd rather more focus on Depp.
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There's no reason for Knightly and Bloom to return. Let Jack ruin someone else's lives.
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how will we ever be able to explain orlando bloom to our children?
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A trained monkey could equal if not better Orlando Bloom's acting. As long as Depp's onboard you'll watch it.
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And those sum up my feelings about George W. Bush perfectly...
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As Johnny Depp stays intact. I can't imagine going like, "SHIT! NO ORLANDO BLOOM! WHAT?!??! Only JOHNNY DEPP!? DAMMIT!" Ha.
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Is almost entirely redeemed by the scene of Depp(s) at the limbo beach of Davy Jones' Locker. Just completely weird and awesome.I'm all for more PIRATES films, if they focus on Jack Sparrow and avoid turning him into a cartoon character. I'm a bit turned off that it's not Verbinski. I just hope they get new writers.
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That man was born to be a pirate.
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Jan 26, 2010 12:32:59 PM CST
You guys are wrong, Bloom was the main attraction of POC
by bass ackwards
I remember gearing stories about girls on the set flocking to Bloom, they'd be "Orlando, who's that freak over there that we didn't even notice?" Shocked, Orlando would respond "THAT'S Johnny Depp" to which the adoring girls who just respond incredulously, "Johnny Depp?! Who cares about him, YOU were Legolas in Lord of te Rings." Also I think I heard Patrick Stewart has a pretty great sounding sci-fi action flick in the pipeline that he wrote himself, wonder when we'll see that?
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Seriously, was there ever any question he and Keira Knightley were done with the franchise if there were more films? POTC3 ended their story. AT MOST it would be a cameo appearance if they returned at all (and ironically it would be easier story-wise to work in a Keira cameo as Pirate Lord/Queen/King/whatever than Bloom as Not Davy Jones). Why anyone keeps bring these two up for POTC4 is beyond me.
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...to see a news report that simply confirms several other news reports. Nice work.
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It was just going to be Johnny and Geoffrey's ride this time around. I thought they confirmed this at D23...
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Wish she'd stick around for more...
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Jan 26, 2010 1:12:53 PM CST
So they'll be looking for the 'new' Orlando and Keira
by performingmonkey
New young characters played by actors who were what Orlando and Keira were to 2003. Any takers??
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she'd stick ME!
lol!!
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I think the films will be better suited if they center on Jack Sparrow.
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Isn't this is the same douche reporter that did the embarrassingly horrible Harrison Ford Interview?
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And Orlando "charisma free zone" Bloom. Yea, I think POTC 4 will get by without them.
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I mean, I guess it doesn't matter-it'a franchise with HUGE fanbase....but Rob Marshall? Seems so fucking odd( doesn't REALLY MATTER to me, I won't see this trash untill dvd..maybe!)
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We know Orlando and Keira aren't in the movie. It was confirmed at D23, and it was also confirmed by common sense.
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Then get Daniel Day MOTHERFUCKING Lewis in it!!! Thank god Orlando and keira arent in it. the story is done.
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You mean he has not retired from acting yet? There are still Legolas-clone characters around?
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With these movies? Its like Shrek at this point. It'll come out make a ton of money, no one will remember anything about it plot or character wise.
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Was taking over the series or something like that. I won't care.
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and a new "Jack Shandy" along with a Beth Hurwood, so very much like a Will and elizaBETH, in the novel "On Stranger Tides" by Tim Powers. Wizards, spirits, ghosts, rotting zombies, Fountain of Youth, could be good...
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well, there goes Jack Sparrows gay SUBtext..Hell, just turn it into a musical parody since the series starting spiralling out of control toward the end of the 2nd installment. Double hell, just see if Mel Brooks is up to directing...
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I like the supernatural world its set in, and I like the characters of Jack and Barbossa, so I'm all for more.
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could be awesome for this franchise. I liked Dead Man's Chest and World's End, but they were a bit bloated and bogged down by the need to be a trilogy. I want to see a serial style adventure that works on its own.
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protagonists. I imagine the Will character was supposed to be the one; he did well for his part, despite Depp's scene stealing (and the Jack character was better in small doses as the antagonist/anti-hero). Will needed more comedy, a la Guybrush in the Monkey Island games (which the first movie was based on). Not sure yet if Bloom could've handled that. I am certain that Bloom thought he was supposed to be the sole lead, though. He was decent in those movies, on further viewer, and Depp gets more and more obnoxious. By the second movie, I actually feel that Jack Davenport as Norrington is the most interesting actor/character in the series. He was wasted.Having more than one lead is awkward -- the only detrimental part in the original Tron, in my estimation.
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Ben Lyons, and actually...it seemed as though they were making Subs at the subway in Pasadena.
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Will you guys be my friends? I've never even seen a naked girl, or a guy for that matter. I keep thinking things will change but, so far nothing. My biggest fear is to die alone. Sometimes I try to start up conversations with people online, but they always end with people calling me a weirdo. I just don't know anymore... Also, this movie looks like it iz going to suck big huge bawlz knowwhatimean!!!!! Wuzzup now movie?!!!! You just got ooooowned!
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Geoffrey Rush and Johnny Depp had better chemistry than Bloom and Knightley. If they don't capitalize on that, making the two of them unwilling partners or somesuch, sort of a pirate buddy film, then there's really no point in continuing the series. I'm glad Bloom and Knightley aren't involved because, as far as I'm concerned, their story is complete and, (maybe) outside of a cameo from Bloom as the new captain of the Flying Dutchman, there's no reason to drag them along. But there's still plenty of unresolved issues between Sparrow and Barbossa that could be explored in another movie or two. And, really, Rush created such a splendidly charming scoundrel with Barbossa, if they were only going to use one character, I'd rather follow him than Sparrow.
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He steals anything he's in.He BETTER be in it!
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Pirates 1 was awesome, it was an openly fun action comedy based on a theme park ride. But by the end of Pirates 3 they were treating it like a friggin' Greek tragedy. Hopefully Bruckheimer reminds everyone to lighten up and let Depp and Rush do their best "Yarr Mateys" for two hours.
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Seriously. Orlando was charming enough in LOTR and didn't make the Pirates movies better or worse and has probably lost his chance at being a leading man, but I don't think he cares. The guy's been dating Miranda Kerr for the last year. Miranda who? This: http://bit.ly/6cEr7c 'nuff said.
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was tightly wound like a skein. Two and three were meandering. I do appreciate that they were unapologetically in the fantasy genre. I had assumed they'd have pandered to the general audience and removed those elements in the sequels.
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You'd be the one guy that understands what the hell happening in those movies.
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I've never actually wished a studio would stop making a franchise until now. At The End of My Colon was total trash. The review on here nailed it perfectly.
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those two pillocks!!!
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I still don't know how they are going to shoehorn in the POTC universe/characters into the storyline of the novel. Maybe they aren't and will just use the title?
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Sparrow is devoured by a sea monster and sent to the afterlife and in order to save him all you have to do is...go and get him? No Alcatraz, that afterlife. They could have put more thought into getting him back, or else never killed him off in the first place. Didn't care after that.
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Jan 26, 2010 4:00:41 PM CST
Remember Nutty Professor - then they made The Klumps
by professor_monster
the crazy fun characters should always remain secondary or you end up explaining too much about them.
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Didn't notice him. Was he the monkey?
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if as bland as usual (I think he's pretty awful in almost everything, including Rings. Only Ridley Scott has dragged anything like a proper performance out of him). But they just couldn't just let him get the girl and leave could they? So we had to endure the awful melodramatic Orlando through the horrible plotting of the sequels.And why is everyone satisfied with he mess that passes for the 'conclusion' of his and Knightley's story? Having him end up as the captain of the Dutchman and not get the girl (again) is surely one of the most open ends for a film EVER. Massively shortchanges the audience too.
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I could easily do w/o any Turners in future films.
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Clay Aiken is gay, Mark McGuire took steroids, and the sky is blue.
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Beat me to it!
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I absolutely hated Knightley and Bloom in those movies. No matter how prominently they featured in the films, they always felt unneeded and their characters were always just whiney and bothersome. And besides, they basically tied up their story (poorly, I might add) at the end of the third movie. A Depp/Rush adventure flick sounds like an amazing thing. :)
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...will there be any connections with that novel's plot, or are they just shameless fuckheads who enjoy plagiarism?
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Everything else is expendable.
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That guy has got to be the luckiest motherfucker out there, really. He's been in 6 enormous blockbusters without doing an iota of heavy lifting, and not anything good about them was due to him (and frankly, the last 2 Pirates movies sucked ass). The best you could say about him is that he didn't make any of them markedly worse. He's like a piece of furniture up there. The only time I've seen him try to carry a film, it fell flat - see Elizabethtown. (of course, in fairness, I need to say the script for that one was probably Cameron Crowe's weakest to date).
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...with the wooden handle of a broom and no-one would notice. Yes, Orlando Broom...that works. Would look good on the posters and is close enough to fool the fans.
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People like to slag Bloomy and Knight, but I think those two dudes were fine. All 3 flicks was their story, and I found Will's 10 year old son, heartbreaking. Series started with kids then ended with a kid. Quite lovely.Still a standalone with Jack and Barbosa should rock. Tho' I wouldn't mind Will showing up in the Dutchess, as backup.
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Will Tom Hollander reprise his role from IN THE LOOP here? I'm sure they could find a way to work in a shark documentary into PotC4.
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It would be good to see more of Keef, and the Tom Waits idea would be good as well. Heck, get an all star lineup of offbeat characters - Steve Busciemi would be good! And I'm sure there are a few classic rock stars who would be good as well - Michael Monroe from Hanoi Rocks would be great! Alice Cooper?
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It's not that I didn't like his character in Pirates, but his and Keira Knightley's characters stories have already been told. Jack on the other hand can always get into more mischief.
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Let's get this straight: Orlando Bloom was the man lucky enough to leave drama school just as the only role ever written to suit him (a feat so rare that the character was created 50 years before Bloom was even born!!) was being cast: a good-looking elf who is only really interesting when firing a bow (itself a less than engaging weapon, which is why every Robin Hood film ends in A SWORD FIGHT!!!). Why, then, can Hollywood not see this? Why do they ruin film after film after film by letting this pretty boy eunech on screen to fight men when he would plainly come off worse against a 9 year-old Wilderness Girl and - horror of horrors - allow him to speak!?! Really, it can't be that hard; there MUST be better guys out there. Perhaps waiting tables? Or even the tables themselves...
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So this could be a good thing.
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all i need.
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& just make the sequel to that. One that isn't quite so bad :(
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Sorry, meant make a real sequel to POTC 2. 3 was horrible...
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you know AsimovLives and his venum for star trek? that me and POTC.it's not fun. it's not well made. It's shit. Pure unadulterated shit. I've watched them, I've tried to rewatch them. I don't get it. these films make no fucking sense. they are shit!
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Depp's stories just work and a stand alone movie will be fine and it's what people want. The other two were not even needed after the first film.
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I don't think I've ever sat through a weirder scene in a blockbuster in my whole life. Though the movie was a piece of shit and "At Colon's End" is right, that scene just stood out as so ballsy since all the moms and kids had this "WTF is this shit?" face during the scene.
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You funny guy.
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Read your last post and you'll find the answer.
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if he wasn't too busy fucking ingenues on a pile of cash to read it...
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I'll just wipe my tears with these LOTR and POTC residual checks...
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if so why would he care about anything else
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I had low expectations for the first one but I actually really enjoyed it. So I was up for the sequels, which I watched on DVD one after the other. The second was 'meh' and before the middle of the last one I was screaming " WHEN DOES THIS SHITE END?". No more POTC movies please! Seriously, just no.
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The first pirates entertained, but the sequels kind of annoyed me. They were too smug, and Sparrow became too much of a caricature. A new one will inevitably intend to kick off a new trilogy, so we'll probably meet further members of Sparrow's family, like a long lost brother or something. I suppose Russell Brand--a piratey type and Depp-alike--will get the call-up, which means I'll only watch it when I don't have to pay for it.
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Best "news" I've heard regarding this movie. I'm no Orlando hater, and I love Keira, but Will and Elizabeth were the most boring aspects of the first 3 films. More Captain Jack Sparrow, please!
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Or the girl? I'd like to look at Keira Knightley, but if they just fill her role with a gorgeous young woman, then I'll have no complaints. Like Bloom or Knightley was any part of the success of those films.
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i agreee. i thought potc 2 was pretty great and couldnt wait to see what happened next. what a let-down #3 was. sparrow should have had a mighty battle with the sea monster in the monster's under-sea cave or something.
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....is still the sexiest tomboy beanpole on the planet!!!!
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Ice cream to ANYONE who asks praises him for his work in the Pirate's films.This is because he is washed up and works at Baskin Robbins
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Disney had an option on the book, and decided to absorb it into the PotC series instead of doing a separate adaptation. I'm sure it'll end up having nothing to do with the book except for having pirates in it... but Powers is getting paid.
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When I first read I could not believe it, the second and third...were like torture, I enjoyed the first- but blimey really? Poor Orlando- I hope he got % points on the last POTC films, they made a mint and should keep him in curry for the rest of his days if got a decent deal.
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Best scene in POTC3
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This WILL be an adaptation of Powers' book. If the scriptwriters don't completely screw things up, it could be good.
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