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It's Horror Franchise War! PARANORMAL ACTIVITY 2 Director Forced To Direct SAW VII 3-D!
Beaks here...
I was barely paying attention when Paramount a) poached SAW VI director Kevin Greutert to helm PARANORMAL ACTIVITY 2, thus forcing Lionsgate to bring back David Hackl to call the shots on SAW VII 3D, and b) engaged in a game of scheduling chicken by plopping PA2 onto SAW VII 3D's October 22nd release date. Ballsy move, yes, but hardly unexpected after SAW VI badly underperformed while PARANORMAL ACTIVITY outgrossed every previous entry in the SAW series.
Well, Lionsgate didn't appreciate the aggression all that much. As a result, it looks like Paramount's going to have to find a new PARANORMAL ACTIVITY 2 director.
According to Deadline Hollywood's Michael Fleming, Lionsgate and Twisted Pictures have an option on Mr. Greutert's next film, and they're exercising the fuck out of it. Ergo, the one-time director of PARANORMAL ACTIVITY 2 is the just-hired director of SAW VII 3-D - whether he likes it or not! David Hackl, meanwhile (whose SAW V is considered by SAW-philes to be the nadir of the series thus far), will be handed the reins of a Lionsgate project to be (quickly) named later.
What does this mean for PARANORMAL ACTIVITY 2? My first guess is a big payday for Oren Peli to come back and pull Paramount's ass out of the fire. If they're smart, they'll save their money and go with Steve Miner. But if the studio wants to save face, they'll demand satisfaction the old-school way...
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does anyone still give a damn about that shitty franchise?
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its a shame that saw is still trying to squeeze life out of that awful franchise. anyway, i hope peli does PA2 because his scriptment for Area 51 is horrible to the max.
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garbage needs to go away
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I don't have a lot of hope for the movie (I think it'll be Blair Witch 2 all over again), but Gruetert has proven himself as a functional work-horse type of horror director, with a significant flashes of quality work in his movies. The sparse nature of Paranormal Activity's world might well be complimented by Grutert's talents. Again, not betting on it, but it's possible. Anyway, if it doesn't work out, Tommy Wiseau is probably available.
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I'm not sure. Was it charlesbronsonLIVES
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These terrible fucking Saw movies keep getting made because they're cheap as hell and always turn a profit. So who the hell is paying to see this? Who paid to see Saw VI? What person took time out of their day and money out of their wallet to do that? A documentary about the retards who still see these movies would be more interesting than another sequel.
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First to be a loser, again! Congrats.
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Or maybe it's Jigsaw goes to Area 51. I would be very surprised if this wrangling of lawyers and sequels resulted in even one watchable movie.
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actually, i think i was first.. not that i want to, nor care to brag about it casue really.. Its a pathetic thing to do and only losers who need attention do FIRST
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Just curious, seems kind of random.
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Where a psychotic talkbacker stalks other users in real life and begins torturing and murdering them. You guys are all great btw, I just think that would be a cool movie, I would watch it.
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Can we name the movie FIRST!
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Saw 6's boxoffice revenue significantly dropped compared to the previous films, and it's because Paranormal Activity was its big competition in theaters and basically stole Saw's thunder for the first time. All previous Saw films pretty much dominated the Halloween weekend until this past year. So it doesn't surprise me they are pulling this stunt, stealing the Paranormal Activity director for their next sequel. In fact, I'm surprised the Saw franchise hasn't gone straight to DVD by now. They've run the premise into the ground and fans are clearly getting tired of it, judging by the last film's boxoffice take. The only thing that can really save it now is bringing back Care Elwes' Dr. Gordon character, which many fans have been speculating and hoping for since Saw 3.
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I like it, it has to be in caps though, just as your typed it, "FIRST!" Wouldn't that be something if all those firsters began suffering mysterious and brutal deaths?
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Hackl was actually hired, or rather, perhaps 'attached' to direct SAW VII 3D before SAW VI even started filming. Why Lionsgate/Twisted Pictures did this while Greutert was prepping to do SAW VI is beyond me--doesn't seem to send a vote of confidence. Anyway, yeah, I know people are tired of SAW movies, but Greutert really provided a great entry, one of the best in the series, that simply underperformed because 'Paranormal Activity' was catching the box office by storm. Frankly, I'm glad this has happened, because going with Hackl again was simply a poor choice.
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...over two movies nobody of sane mind give the slightest fuck about.
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These movies are pure exploitation and I love em. I was a big fan of franchise horror in the 80's and this series brought it back and did it in a fun way. I love the stunt casting throughout the series, the sheer ridiculousness of the machines, the pseudo political commentary, and how it just keeps on friggin going, I mean come on!For the record I've never seen any of them in the theater, I don't think they're really meant for someone like me. But when I see those posters start popping up every October I love how annoyed people get. Seriously, who cares? It's the kind of thing that just makes people turn their noses up, their heads in disgust and Mothers shake their fingers. And for a kid, what could be better?
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The political commentary never seemed obvious until Saw 6's anti-health care rant. I can't recall any of the previous films being so blatant about their commentary. I wonder if Saw 7 will go after the economy. :)
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It reminded me of my childhood and reading books...And, Bill Cosby.
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So I hit the post button twice by mistake. Why the uproar over nothing? I edit films & animated tv series in Hollywood, kid.
So who's the loser now? -
Saw vs. PA - Whoever wins, we all lose.
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shit the first one was?
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David Hackl did a great job on SAW VI, which will find it's respect on DVD.
And....I'm foreseeing a PARANORMAL ACTIVITY backlash that'll sabotage any chance for a PARANORMAL ACTIVITY series. -
Jan 26, 2010 2:34:58 AM CST
I edit films & animated tv series in Hollywood, kid. So who's th
by judge dredds fresh undies
Do you have two of every shot? Like an editors version of Noahs Ark.
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Than in all 6 SAW movies. Top clip, sir!
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Especially if that person is not connected to someone in the industry - meaning they are protected by "their own".
Look at Jarred Hess who did Napolean Dynamite - he started strong with his own brand and signature of film, then after Hot Topic started carrying "Vote for Pedro" shirts, they stick him with Nacho Libre - which bombed . Now his name is all but erased from the scene. Same thing will happen to this poor bastard. They'll keep him from doing his movies by tossing money his way and he'll ned up having to make kids movies just to survive. -
So how can they underperform? They always turn a profit.
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That's all I care about!
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Stop giving crap exposure it's what they've come to expect of you
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Keep the franchise name, but focus on an entirely new serial killer, unassociated with Jig Saw. Make each new entry about a new killer. You could get a great character actor to play the killer in each new entry
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Can't remember if it did or not...
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I'm in the minority,but I really enjoyed Halloween 2 on 2 more viewings after watching it in theaters. I totally could see Sheriff Brackett trying to get his revenge on a just revived Michael.
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...maybe you'd be a director by now if you stopped wasting your time on message boards. Just a thought.
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Jan 26, 2010 6:19:59 AM CST
Professor_Monster.. I'm sorry, they stuck Hess with Libre?
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
pretty sure it was his idea...
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The Saw movies are down right incomprehensible. They make no sense but flashback and forward to explain stuff that I have no clue what for because non of it makes any sense at all. I'll never pay to see these movies in the theater. A rental at best. There are sometimes fun to laugh at. I want to see an entire film on Jigsaw... no murders...no evil plans...but him drinking coffee, watching television, reading a book, going out to eat...ect. His the best part of the films. I laugh every single time his on screen.
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BEYOND BAD. BEYOND BAD. IT'S REALLY UNREAL. 30MINS IN....A DOOR MOVES...AND THEN WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO TERRIBLE ACTING FOR THE NEXT TEN MINUTES ABOUT WHY THE DOOR MOVED. I MADE THIS MOVIE WHEN I WAS 10 WITH MY SIBLINGS.
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Am I right in saying he's directed a handfull of films no one has heard of and he used to work as an assistant editor? That Greutert? I'd prefer Pelli to return.
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cos' forcing a director to make a movie really makes stellar films.
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Jan 26, 2010 7:58:08 AM CST
its a bad day when studios are fighting for SAW directors...
by six demon bag
seriously.
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Jan 26, 2010 8:07:22 AM CST
Like a fight between those two smelly kids in the school...
by flickapoo
...lunch room. Passions are running high...faces are flushed...one guy is crying a little...the other guy's shirt is ripped...All I know is I need more chocolate milk.
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Saw V is shit on a too-thin paper plate! It is HORRENDOUS! I suppose it's slightly less putrid than Saw VI, but that's hardly a compliment!No, the nadir of the series was clearly Saw III. Best story, best acting, best kills, and by the way, it made $24M more than Saw V!
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"Paranormal Activity" scared the crap out of me but I don't particularly feel like seeing "Paranormal Activity 2: The Heretic." Meanwhile, I've hated every "SAW" movie from the beginning and was under the impression that "Paranormal Activity" had finally killed the franchise. Fuck both of them, when does "Frozen" come out?
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I think you misinterpreted it. Nadir actually means the opposite of what your post suggests, ie, nadir= the lowest point.
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oh that made my day...
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Jan 26, 2010 9:10:31 AM CST
Nadir FAIL totally validated my trip to this tb.
by jackknifed_juggernaut
good show, my friend. good show.
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...they'll go with STEVE MINER?
STEVE MINER?!?!?!
Which Steve Miner?
Friday the 13th 2 & 3 Steve Miner?
OR Day of the Dead: The Need To Feed/Halloween H20 where's the tension/Texas Rangers the movie so shitty it cost 40 million and made less than 1 Steve Miner?
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I had heard of yoga people reaching "nadir", assuming that meant a pinnacle of peacefulness....or a high point. Possibly it meant lowering metabolism or "ultimate restfulness". My bad.
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Jan 26, 2010 9:15:50 AM CST
Revenge of Fett is trying real hard guys
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
he's kinda like Corky from Life Goes On... Though I'm pretty sure even Corky knew what Nadir means.
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Jan 26, 2010 9:16:40 AM CST
Steve Minor: still the go to guy for the horror sequel.
by the reluctant austinite
He has been making competent, better-than-the-average sequels to franchise horror films since you were an itch in your daddy's pants.
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Jan 26, 2010 9:20:23 AM CST
Slappy Magoo... I'll take Lake Placid Steve Miner thanks
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
Goddamn his Day of the Dead sucked. Talk about a hit and miss horror director. My personal favorite horror master is Tom Holland, he of Child's Play and Fright Night. Tommy Lee Wallace is alright too('cept for Return to Salem's Lot).
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Jan 26, 2010 9:21:36 AM CST
Dammit I think Larry Cohen actually did Return to Salem's
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
I've got my schlock-guys mixed up....
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Jan 26, 2010 9:23:52 AM CST
While we are at it, how bout Brett Leonard???
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
What the fuck happened to that guy? Virtuosity would be the last I remember and was the closest he ever got to a decent film.
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Jan 26, 2010 9:28:14 AM CST
Or what about Chuck Russell... He is a genre favorite
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
having made Nightmare 3 and The Blob.
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... a segment from BARRY LYNDON. terribly underrated moie, even among so-called Kubrick fans.
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i'm lauging at you. also, saw 3 was a horrendous pile of shit.
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Boy he started off with a band with The Dead Pit and Lawnmower Man. Unfortunately his films got progressively crappier.
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Jan 26, 2010 9:43:19 AM CST
Lawnmower Man was so bad King disowned it...
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
and sued to get his name taken off the advertising. This from a man who made Maximum Overdrive and kept his name on it.
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...sad but true.Most of you aren't qualified to wipe my nadir.
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...and out the mouth on a blunt greasy pole.
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Otherwise, who cares? It's fucking SAW!
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Jan 26, 2010 9:50:04 AM CST
Calling Paranormal Activity a "horror" film is being charitable
by gruntybear
That's a "film" that should never have escaped youtube.
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On the Gremlins talkback, someone mentioned an Alex Proyas Drac pic..... hmmmmm could there be a new Vlad talkback on the way. Based on early Proyas work, might I suggest : IVAMPIRE... Will Smith plays a cop who's natural distrust of Vampires is tested when he investigates a crime of Impalement that sends shockwaves through the city and leads to the corridors of power. Along the way he learns that although different, Vampires have feelings too.
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...a blunt greasy pole sends shockwaves through the corridors of power.
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NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks,
"I Vampire" is the literal translation of the great Riccardo Freda/Mario Bava directed italian gothic horror film "I Vampiri".
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049429/
Good times when horror had guys like Bava and Freda. -
In a role that nod's it's head to Eastwoods age rather than sugar coat it, our man Clint(heh) plays a Secret Service agent who battles wits against a deadly psychotic. This homicidal maniac(played by John Malkovich) has a plan to impale the President up the ass and out the mouth with a blunt, greasy pole. Eastwood must overcome his feelings of inadequacy and confront his past( John F. Kennedy was impaled on his watch) if he is to stop these events from unfolding. Rene Russo co-stars as someone whom Clint would like to impale....
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The first rule of Impalement Club is...... You don't wanna know what the soap is for.
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One of the most skillfully shot color films in history. You might as well watch The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly in 'fullscreen'.
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Jan 26, 2010 10:45:13 AM CST
Damn... This is hard to stop... Damn you Vlad
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
Police Academy 4: Citizens on Impalement Patrol.
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Jan 26, 2010 10:47:14 AM CST
Neosamurai85.. funny you should say that
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
It was Leone week on cable a month ago on Fox classics and they played ALL of his films in fullscreen. It was revolting.
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Must have been a wrist-sun-dial.
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Jan 26, 2010 10:49:57 AM CST
D.Vader... bend over I'll show ya...
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
sorry dude.
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Thats easily Saw 4, that movie just sucked and the kills were very lame looking.
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If they are smart. He wrote the past couple of Saws and the Fest series and directed The Collector which was really good.
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Marcus Dunstan.
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are up to?
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Vlad: "So ... you're married."
Summer: "Yeah. Crazy, huh?"
*Cut to lingering shot of Summer impaled on spear*
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"Did you move my microwave burrito?" "You so crazy" "Did you hear that?" "That wasn't my stomache" "It's inside the bathroom!" "We can't leave the set... I mean house, it'll follow us"
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Yeeeshh.. another morman-based Vampire story. Still.... Vlad's end dance routine is electric, and the bit where his brother finds out the girl he wants to impale is a black chick.... classic scene.
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Jan 26, 2010 12:32:29 PM CST
The Impalement Club... a John Hughes Film
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
A vampire teen rites-of-passage film set in the confines of the school library as 5 vamps, all strangers to each other, get to know each other and themselves when they are subjected to detention. The film culminates in a mass Impaling orgy-athon as the kids destroy the orifices of the Principal and the suss janitor who knows all their secrets by impaling them up the ass and out the mouth with several blunt, greasy poles. Sample Dialogue.... " The next time I have to come in here, I'm Impaling Skulls!" " What say you close those doors, and we get the Prom Queen....Impregnated with my impaling implement." A modern teen classic.
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Their salute is hilarious....
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have the whole thing be about tobin bell and/or shawnee, maybe cary elwes? I think Saw 3-6 are just pointless.
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Tobin Bell has always been the best part of the series. The first film picks up at the END of a long bloody series of kills by his character. Why not show them instead of constantly trying to inventing increasingly ludicrous ways to keep his dead ass in the movies?
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Let both movies die!
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Amazing. I should start a company that offers pay to watch a dog crap on a rug. I'll probably make a ton of money, as it's about the same experience overall.
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Saw 5 was so horrible I fell asleep on it -- In the theater!!! I recently viewed Saw 6 and found it to be way better then Saw 5, and I kinda like they way they tied it all together, so I will rent Saw 7. I am all for genre movies if they keep in line with the story, which Saw 5 did a horrible job at...
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after the first movie.
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made MAN-THING and FEED, the latter of which has to be seen to be believed
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The setup is this - a group of seemingly unrelated characters are abducted and subjected to the torture of watching Saw 1-6. Turns out at one time each of them worked at Lionsgate and green-lit one of the movies. The one who approved Saw 1 gets to live, but looses a testicle. Oh, it's in 3D.
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"Waaah! You got more points than me. I'm taking my ball and I'm going home!"
And if Paramount is really releasing PA2 *this* October, they better hurry up on finding a new guy. Then again, maybe they shouldn't rush: the original was shot in, what, a weekend? (Haven't seen it. I'm just speculating.) -
Directing isn't the end game for everyone, although I've directed a number of projects. Let's see your resume. Seems like you've got time for AICN.
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