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Claire Littleton 2.0!! Have A Look At That New LOST Promo!!
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Maybe when Juliet set off that A-bomb inside the embryonic Swan Station, reality itself scrambled. John Locke is now played by Matthew Fox. Ben Linus is now played by Evangeline Lilly. And Danielle Rousseau is now played by Emilie DeRavin.
There’s a new “Lost” promo out, and it seems to depict a Claire Littleton with a Rousseau-esque demeanor.
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Incidentally, I heard a rumor that The Man In Black is actually War, one of the four horsemen.
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"John Locke is now played by Matthew Fox. Ben Linus is now played by Evangeline Lilly. And Danielle Rousseau is now played by Emilie DeRavin." What the fuck are you talking about? Or are you just trying to be funny?
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Jan 22, 2010 8:09:02 PM CST
And that Marshall Mars is gathering an army of psychic kids.
by johnny smith
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Gives me chills at how potentially AMAZING this season could be. If you look at the 5th season finale talkback I definitely called this. They go BACK to the first episode and the crash EXCEPT certain characters have ALL the knowledge of the previous 5 seasons. It is so simple yet has SO many possibilities. How will they do things differently now that they know everything about the Others and all the Dharma stations. The other interesting part is that just like Charlie, death can never be avoided and who HAS died WILL die again!
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... the plane is still going to crash.
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What the fuck is this about?
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Uh no. They reset the timeline. I've stayed away from teasers and spoilers, but if they do have knowledge of the last five seasons, that's just silly.
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Not reset.
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Jan 22, 2010 8:34:40 PM CST
THEY'RE ALL REALLY DEAD AND THE ISLAND IS HELL
by richard_gere_raped_my_gerbil
Has anyone had this theory yet?What do you mean 'That was SO five years ago'?
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The little clues they've sprinkled throughout the seasons....I wonder just how important this Egypt business is to the mythology of the show. And why Egypt? Just because it's ancient?
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Yes we know Sun saw a picture of the other survivors back in the 70's, but once Juliet blew things up, wouldn't it erase that particular moment in ti...wait...that doesn't make sense. We shouldn't of even seen that if Juliet changed things. And when she did, wouldn't that make those on the sub disappear like in Back to the Future? Damn, I need to rewatch that scene where Hurley and the ghost whisperer were arguing about this shit.
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Nothing Else Matters!!.....sorry Motoko
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Again, the storyline will continue and instead of flashbacks or flashforwards, there will be flashes to the alternate timeline where the plane doesn't crash. The alternate timeline versions of the characters will not remember the island time. So, in a sense, it IS a reset, but what happened, did happen. The 2 timelines will somehow solidify by the end of the show and then... who the hell knows?
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Claire traveled back in time with Sawyer, Farady, and co. and has been on the island from 74-77. Her character will parallel Rousseau 's (you know, baby taken, living alone in the jungle). Good stuff for her character.
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Looking forward to seeing how they ATTEMPT to bring a satisfactory end to this series. Tired of debating it at this point, though. As I keep saying, nobody really knows.
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is a time paradox? I think a part of the final season will be about finding out where the compass came from.
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Jan 22, 2010 10:01:15 PM CST
I got a leaked script. Series Finale *spoilers*
by liesandpicturesofalsolies
Bob Dylan is a Cylon
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Watching it right now. So far, so good.
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just a TV show. Get a life!!
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Youtube sucks for still frames!
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http://tinyurl.com/3x5lod
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It would be less guns. It was so much better when they were relying on primitive tools.
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http://www.aintitcool.com/node/43728
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Complains the man on an internet chatboard with the name ATARI.
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George Lucas and Steven Spielberg are releasing a special edition where all the guns are replaced with walkie-talkies.
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too many spoiler bombing bastards out there..... and fuck you guys.....
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Nobody knows anything. Nobody knows anything. Keep guessing and pretending. Thank you, and have a good time this season. I'll be following Mundungus (something I never thought I'd type) and ignoring these talkbacks from here on out.
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Thanks for the direction.
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too even make predictions at this point. Season 3-5 was a new theory every day, shits gotten too intense. Just kinda lay back and let the eyeballs be done with what they will.
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Jan 23, 2010 12:15:34 AM CST
It'll be revealed that Locke was a wheelchair-bound...
by marcel_the_negro_projectionist
cripple who longed for adventure and got more than he bargained for when he crashed on the island and mystically got his legs back.
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Where Gwyneth Paltrow misses the subway an we follow two ways that her life unfolds to make it ultimately back together. I thought it was really reaching when Cars was Doc Hollywood, or Avatar was Dances with Smurfs. But Lost is Sliding Doors may take until the end of the month to digest.
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I too like this flash-sideways theory. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
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I'm guessing you're joking. I think the compass was more lazy writing and inconsistency than anything. Season 5 was riddled with it. Compare the conversation that Un-Locke has with Richard prior to giving Locke the compass ("Follow the Leader") with what Richard says to the real Locke (in "Because You Left"). It doesn't match up. It's the same as everyone calling Locke "Jeremy Benthem" despite the fact Locke never tells people to call him by that name. Maybe season six will attempt to correct these errors but I think they'll just get swept under the carpet as will many loose threads. Unfortunately.
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I agree. I also miss the wild boars and polar bears. It was great discovering all the technology underground and the Otherville but with it I think Lost lost some of the great iconic imagery of season 1. It still makes me laugh to think they were hunting boar for food and washing clothes in a cave while Desmond was eating Muesli, having hot showers and using a washing machine right beneath them.
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I'm with you guys. I've waited six years for some of these revelations and I want to see them unveil themselves on-screen as the writers intended; not blurted out on here by some child who's learned how to copy and paste from a spoiler website. It happened with the season 3 finale as many here know. I'm not going to risk it happening with season 6. I'll still read Herc's little pre-episode teasers but I'm staying away from the talkbacks (unless something pretty major is revealed and I feel the need to geek).
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I'm pretty sure.
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Don't worry, you've got until May. ;-)
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I'm pretty sure it's Claire.
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So you hear that the events of lost have been reset because a time travel incident created an alternate time line, and the first thing you think of is Sliding Doors? Well let me tell you kid, there's a WHOLE WORLD of science fiction out there waiting for you to read it. Start off with guys who where writing in the 1930's and work your way forward. Sliding Doors is gonna look like a shitty romantic drama in comparison. Because believe me, Sliding Doors IS NOT the first movie/book/comic to explore that idea.
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say that Rousseau-ish Claire has darker hair.
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Damon Lindelof tweeted this from youtube, the editing is fucking brilliant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKcKtjrL5bc or http://bit.ly/qlgxY
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XBtWYBPTns http://bit.ly/m0wXT
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cause that's all i care for. plus more desmond this year.
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thats nice and all, but thats young Eloise Hawking you posted.
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Jan 23, 2010 3:04:47 AM CST
They blew up the island and Jay Leno is hosting the Tonight Show
by falafalguy
YOU WERE WRONG JACK!!!!
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fap fap fap fap fap fap fap...
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is if she had Fembot Boobguns
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They didn't change anything.What we know: Richard claimed he saw them all die in the 70's; there was "an incident".I'd assume the nuke always happened (but then we get into discussion about mine-shaft depths, fallout etc).If so, then the thing that actually changed was the CREATION of a new timeline. So in Sun's universe, where she has been to Dharmaville and is now outside Jacob's statue on the beach, well all this remains. They can't have been transported anywhere. Jack etc died in the blast, but in doing this created a timeline in which the plane cant have crashed because there was no energy pocket....Wait. If they destroyed the energy pocket it must have always happened....This is making no sense. Time-travel is fucked; congratulations to them if they can find a way out of this mess.
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http://tinyurl.com/ydhnecu
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Daniel explained their movements on the string as being confined to the string but he never explained what would happen if they started a new thread. I'm guessing there are two concurrent realities... one which has no predetermined outcome. Like a new history. All bets are off.
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I think we may see a Roland-esque style time reversal where things start again from the first time they crashed on the island.
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You know what pisses me off. Season Three Eloise Hawking said you cannot change the past. Her son, Daniel Faraday spent most of last season saying What Happened, Happened. I think there was an episode titled that. Then all of a sudden he says. "I forgot about the variables" meaning the people. DUH. You weren't thinking about human free will when you were making your original definitive hypothesis? So all of a sudden, he can change the past. Now, I will buy it because everyone of importance is at the Swan site, that what happened to Desmond may have happened to them. But that still doesn't negate the fact that they switched the rules on us in the middle of the game.
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if the principal players REMEMBER the past, Eloise Hawking said that man who died the day Desmond went to by the ring, HAD to die. She told Desmond even though he has free will to save him. So he COULD have saved him and Eloise was talking out of her ass...?
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...have you actually thought about that ring-buying episode? How exactly did Eloise Hawking come to be there. I originally thought she was some sort of avatar, watching Desomond's life from our own time period and stepping in when it appeared he had time traveled. Now, knowing she is a real flesh and blood person...how did she happen to be behind that ring counter? Are she and that monk guy (who must also be an off-island Other) following and pointing Desmond around his whole life? Okay, I'll buy that. They needed to get him to the island. But what about the day he decides to buy the ring. That had already happened and he was changing it. Was Eloise there the first time? And how could she know he was changing things if she wasn't a time traveler herself? Has this been discussed already, cause its really a big whole to me in Lost mythology that I can't cover.
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a lost boner
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MOVIES, TV, MUSIC, FOOD, DRINK, VIDEO GAMES, BOOKS, WEATHER, WORK, MAGAZINES, CARS, TRUCKS, THEME PARKS, PETS, CHILDREN, BOARD GAMES, SPORTS, PORN, SLEEP. it's true. it's true.
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I remember watching that video a few months back... still a great find.
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That means something totally different on the Disney boards.
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"The televsion event of the year will begin"? This is some funky new definition of "event"? My weaselword alarm is ringing.
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Whew! Thanks for sheding such a pathetically geeky light on things.
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Sorry Atari, but your argument evaporates when your handle is Atari and you are telling people to "get a life" on the Ain't It Cool talkback. That said, freaking hilarious setup for Zooch.
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is I'll actually have to watch some of this show again.
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is that its the last season of Lost and after Lost is over TV will go back to being average, ocassionally great, but never amazing
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That could be an important line. What if the sixth season is NOT about resetting the crash, but resetting season five, in other words, changing history so they never go back in time?
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it says it doesn't give a fuck
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Since I got seasons 1 and 2 on blu ray for Christmas and already had 3-5, I've decided to go back through everything so as to not miss anything in six regarding what's come before. I'm almost through season 1 now, and in doing so have to wonder if they can ever explain the whole "Walt is special" plot thread. They spent so much time in season 1 and 2 making a point about Walt, what with the polar bear comic and the dead window bird and the Others taking him to study. But with the actor now being three times as big as Walt originally was, I'm not sure he can fit into a reset, but I really want to know where they were going with that. What's the deal with Walt?
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Because even as recently as Taken, Maggie Grace is still super hot!
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as Juliet or Kate.
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And in the jungle killing shit with Survivorman traps and knives
Only Character besides Ben, Sawyer, (before they made him lame ass jumpsuit Sawyer last year) EVE Liily's tits and Elizabeth Mitchell's tits I give a shit about. Matt Fox is as charismatic as paste. Hope he dies quite painfully in the series finale
LOCKE FUCKERS!!!! LOCKE!!!
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"Looking forward to seeing how they ATTEMPT to bring a satisfactory end to this series."
At this point, NO END is going to be satisfactory for most fans of the show. Even Damon Lindelof was quoted as saying that there's going to be "the immediate reaction to the finale and then the legacy reaction" six months/a year/whenever down the road after people have had a chance to absorb the series as a whole and realize that this was the plan from the get-go.
I've watched LOST since the pilot, and while the crazy left turns sometimes left me frustrated and head-scratching, this is the main thing that keeps the show fresh, on-edge and so goddamn compelling. I'm down for whatever the producers have up their sleeves at this point because every theory I've ever had about the show has gone out the window. And that's great TV. -
Locke, Ben, Sawyer, Kate, and Jack all start humming "All along the watchtower..."
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VINCENT IS A CAT IN A DOG SUIT
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all costumes Vincent used in his practical jokes on the Losties
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it's why you never see them on screen at the same time - kind of like Clark Kent and Superman
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It's so obvious. The show will end with Vincent, laying in some grass kicking his legs up in the air, until something wakes him up. Close up on the dog's eye. Then, he gets up and starts running towards a house. The door opens, and out comes Walt. "Good boy Vincent! Did you have a nice nap boy?" Michael stares on from a hammock, smiling.
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Jan 23, 2010 2:46:06 PM CST
I await the "legacy reaction" for my shitty 5th grade book repor
by reflecto
What a concept! "First reaction doesn't matter - wait for the legacy." Fact is, Lost is a mediocre show in a sea of crap; it mires itself in pretention, Wiki-ready pop/literary references, and crawled up its ass several seasons ago, now it's trying to develop some semblance of cohesive narrative and with new light shed on it, the show is as conventional and bland as any other network or basic cable genre show in the last twenty years. Shows like Twin Peaks and The Wire piss on this junior high mentality from a great height. Lost is only thinking TV for people not used to thinking. It is lazy freshman year theory.
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long shot down during s1-2:
a) Its all purgatory
b) Its all hell
c) everyone's insane and its really some kind of psych ward
d) its all in someone's head
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Let's face it, unless Lindeloff and Cuse let their eight-year-old kids write the final season, or if they got real drunk one night and had a conversation that started with "Hey, you know what would REALLY fuck with our audience ...?!?", they will have to fall quite a long way before they reach the shitty depths that the last two seasons of BSG mired in. Although Locke could turn out to be an angel and they could conceivably decide the island they're on isn't the "real" island and the number sequence permeating the series could turn out to be the coordinates to the real one and Ben Linus could put a gun to his head and kill himself in the last episode before he has a chance to hurt anybody else.
Oh, and anyone trolling a "Lost" talkback to tell everybody how lame it is to like the show is akin to calling a Hooter's waitress a lesbian because she won't give you her phone number. Just go home and jerk off, already. -
Yeah yeah, blah blah, Twin Peaks, The Wire, Sopranos, they were all SOOOOOO much better than shitty Lost is. What a concept that is! What else you got? If you dislike the show and its "junior high mentality" WHY ARE YOU STILL WATCHING IT? Moire to the point, why even bother commenting or reading a forum? Good insight tho, I'm sure your shitty fifth grade book report will turn out great!
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god DAMN I hated that show.
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That's why I watched it when they promised "no, we'll have a plot this year, we swear." Except it was a really lame plot. A giant wheel in the middle of a cave? Really? It was just more unbelievable narrative decompression to avoid connecting the dots, all the characters strewn around trying to find other people like on Heroes, never actually using common sense or linking up with intelligent goals, followed by ridiculous shit like everyone stumbling on a room with Fionnula Flanagan and a giant fucking pendulum. Why do I care about Daniel's love for Charlotte, both of whom we just met? In what episode did I come to know much or care about Charlotte so I could feel sad when she died? Why does the show continue setting up new characters and subplots they will fail to fulfill when they couldn't even make sense of Walt or Libby, or give Shannon or Claire a purpose? Why the fuck would people go along with Jack's insane plan to change the future, considering he's doing it all for another shot at Kate who WOULD NOT EVEN KNOW HIM (OR HE, HER) IF THE PLANE HADN'T CRASHED? Why would Juliet throw her life away for this plan based solely on a two-second emo look complete with overwrought Giacchino score between Kate and Sawyer? "The latest round of shipper bait has broken my heart, James. I agree to Jack's idiotic plan!" That's all this show is, fanboy teasing, shipper crap, and a lot of excuses to make people feel smart because they looked shit up on the Net to make it make sense to them when almost none of the ancillary material or narrative weight is actually ONSCREEN. I actually love JJ Abrams' Star Trek, which is a different animal, but this attitude is the kind of laziness his TV shows, and Lost have conditioned us for. "Oh, it'll be on the DVD; it's on the website; it's in the online game." This is what Richard Kelly's crap came from. Don't put it on the goddamn website, don't quote a freshman year philosopher study plan, just give me thought-out characters and a unique, compelling story ON TV. Because when you cut through all the websites and online riddles and backwards-assed references to Kant and Hegel, this show has an incredibly run of the mill sci-fi plot from a bunch of '90s Outer Limits episodes, combined with the gooey sentiment of the worst of Grey's Anatomy.
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cynical, snobby, stupid douche.
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I agree with a lot of what you are saying re the show's faults, especially the stuff about the motivations in the Incident, but still...just enjoy it for what it is, LOST is kind of brilliant and kind of crap in fluctuating proportions. The last season was brilliant, and pretty much since they got the end date sorted there's much greater sense of purpose about the plotting. Yes, I agree, when you look at it closely the character motivations are sometimes clunky (don't get me started on the literal shafting the Juliet character got in the finale). Its the main fault with the show. The characters don't ask enough questions, the do stupid things, like Sayid, walking into an ANCIENT FUCKING TEMPLE OF SOME UNKNOWN CIVILISATION(!) and he makes almost no reference to it or shows any interest in his surroundings. Thats dumb. He's with Jack but I expect these things from Jack.
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it still does great things, but this last twist could make it or break it. But I'll wait until the shows over before judging it and criticising other people's taste, and if you don't get the ending of Battlestar then who the fuck cares to be honest
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fuck
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if you call fans of a highly rated, well received show who come to this TB to discuss their theories "losers", then what do you call the trollish hater that can't stand the show but goes on the TB anyways to lob his jackass comments at those who like it? Oh, that's right, you would call a person like that a "reflecto". fuckin troll
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Just at the show. Can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. OMFG CLAIRE IS BACK! WHO KNEW????
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will admit the show wasn't as "bad" as they initially said it was, once the ending has come and it all ties together, you see how it was all planned, and the big reveal which was IN FRONT OF US THE ENTIRE TIME but we couldn't see it. Mark my words.
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They had no fucking idea what show they were making on Day One, or "all along." It was about a string of shock twists: OMFG WHY IS THERE A POLAR BEAR?? OMFG WALT HAS PSYCHIC POWERS?? OMFG ANOTHER ISLAND?? OMFG LOOK WHAT MICHAEL DID?? OMFG LOOK AT THE OTHERS LIVING LIKE REGULAR PEOPLE?? OMFG IT'S THE FUTURE?? OMFG TIME TRAVEL??
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That's all I'm saying.
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Truth is I am eagerly awaiting the final season premier.
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AP type-ed "Oh, and anyone trolling a "Lost" talkback to tell everybody how lame it is to like the show is akin to calling a Hooter's waitress a lesbian because she won't give you her phone number. Just go home and jerk off, already."
I swear by Crom ...That made me spit hard liquor all over.... everything.
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yeah, big shocker there, too.
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Next time some one plays your name 'stone' against you..Maybe mention the brilliance of Nolan Bushnell..Which to mention besides the consoles, I still have an Atari 800, a tape drive and Crush, Crumble, Chomp..suck on that Wee Wii bitches.
Or..
Tell them your name is actually in refer to '当たり' ..and calling out 'ATARI' during the 'game' is quite common for beginners, but is consider-ed quite rude among advanced players. ..and..
忙しくしているなら彼らの邪魔をしたくはない。 ..Miyamoto gets it.
..And has any one thought that GO..with its two sides, one light and one dark, where he object of the game is to control a larger portion of the board than the opponent and where even dead stones provide possible avenues of subtle play...might have been just and even more appropriate than Backgammon.
..ya know where the only object is to remove (bear off) all of one's own 'pawns' from the board before one's opponent can do the same...
Hmmpf. Oh.
Maybe not. I'm goin to the pub and finish this Drunk before I have to make Billboe look silly and simple or somethin. -
Know what I'm saying fellas? High Five.
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for the shoutout. Have a few pints on me
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You're hilarious. "OMFG CLAIRE IS BACK! WHO KNEW?" Actually, most people already knew she was back, seeing as both the actress and producers said she'd be back in S6. The revelation was more to the point of what she looked like now compared with last time we saw her.
When you write stuff like the producers saying they'd "have a plot this year, we swear", what are you referring to exactly? At what point did any producer say this? Season 2? 3? 4? 5? When? Care to back that up AT ALL? I love how you seem to just pull random bullshit out of thin air to try and lend your comments some weight. But it doesn't really matter because YOU KEPT WATCHING, just like you'll be watching the season premiere and then hopping back on here to bitch about the fact that they didn't wrap everything up in the first two hours. Also, if you're going to quote something I wrote, try and actually get it right. "First reaction doesn't matter - wait for the legacy." At no point did I write that, aside from mentioning an immediate reaction and an eventual one, just as I never indicated that one was more valid than the other.
"Why do I care about Daniel's love for Charlotte, both of whom we just met? In what episode did I come to know much or care about Charlotte so I could feel sad when she died?" Well, she's actually a supporting character, and as such you probably won't feel as connected to her as the main characters. You have read a novel before, right? Do you feel the same about EVERY character? The point of her death wasn't to make you feel sad [if it did, great] so much as it was to set up Daniel's motivation for detonating the bomb. Which would then set up Season 6. Which you haven't seen yet. And just maybe after watching the final 18 hours of Lost, the producers will finally "make sense of Walt or Libby, or give Shannon or Claire a purpose." Do you think there's a good chance of all that happening, seeing as how they've already said pretty much everyone will be back at some point in S6? Or are you just gonna keep saying that nothing's been resolved even though the story isn't finished yet? "WTF?! I just finished watching the pilot, why aren't they off the Island yet?"
"They had no fucking idea what show they were making on Day One, or all along. It was about a string of shock twists." How do you honestly write something like that? How in the fuck do you know? Have you seen S6 already? One thing I can tell you is that since S1, Damon Lindelof has said that the Adam and Eve characters from the cave were one of the first "markers" in the show that would prove in the end what had been set up from the get-go. Did they have everything planned to a T from the start? Of course not! Holy shit, what a revelation! They've said this time and again. DL fully admits that when he and J.J. were writing the pilot and came up with the idea of the Hatch that they didn't know what would be inside. And then, being talented writers, they figured it out and worked it into the mythology of the story, like they do. Most TV shows aren't mapped out six years ahead of time. Don't be a fucking goof.
Finally, you say Lost is an"incredibly run of the mill sci-fi plot from a bunch of '90s Outer Limits episodes, combined with the gooey sentiment of the worst of Grey's Anatomy." You really believe that and have somehow still been hooked by it for five whole years. Truly, words from the mouth of an idiot.
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The irony would have been delicious if you had been serious. As it stands, the irony is I should have seen it coming given your handle and the surrounding circumstances. Well played, sir. Well played.
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So when it's all over, will you fan boys ever admit that this story was written for 2-3 seasons tops and the rest has just been tacked on weirdness for weirdness sake?
I'll concede first that that is exactly what happened to my favorite show, BSG, after the 2nd-ish season.
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for Weirdness Sake? Is TV so overflowing with weirdness that we should resent LOST for jerking our chains for the hell of it once in awhile? Random weird stuff is part of what makes LOST such a fun ride.You Finale Haters (BSG, Sopranos,etc etc) are like someone who eats an entire chocolate cake and then complains that the last piece made them sick or didn't taste as good as the first piece. It's THEIR vision not yours. They end it how they choose to. If you don't like it, tough shit. I'd rather have a PRISONER style WTF? ending than The Complete Idiot's Guide to LOST.
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no need for anyone to admit that, it was already "admitted to" in a different sort of way by the showrunners. They knew they had an ending in mind for a single-story serial, they just didn't know how long it would take to get there. 4 seasons? 7? 10? They didn't know. They didn't know if they were going too fast, or too slow. At some point in s3, they knew they were treading water, and had to pick an end date. When they brokered the end of LOST 3 years in advance (during s3) the pacing went fast and furious from that point on. They've already admitted they've had filler eps, and they've had some eps they wish they'd never done, so that's that. Sorry I had to yank the rug out from underneath you there sir. And let me clarify something; the fact that they've had to punt and tread water does NOT mean that the overall mystery, end-game, and overall arc, wasn't planned from the beginning. Those are 2 completely different things.
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He said it, not any of you. And yeah, they admitted this show was meandering til Season 4. At which point, when they were forced to stop farting around with fanservice and lots of hamhanded undergrad philosophical references and make a coherent narrative, it turned out what they'd slapped together was just another lame sci-fi show with secret cults and conspiracies and psycho romance fanbases. I do not think they knew how it would end in the first 3 years or maybe even the last two. I don't think they knew they'd abandon major characters along the way when they fucked up. The sudden losses of Walt, Shannon, Ana Lucia, Libby etc were not planned, they were done because the show ran out of shit to do with them or found themselves in a corner they couldn't explain. They always cover it up by saying "it's all part of the plan" or "we'll reveal it later" but we know they're scrambling. Nikki and Paulo were not planned either. And no - I haven't been hooked for five years. I watches sporadically until Season 4, and don't worry, I never gave them their nightly ratings.
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Have you considered the fact that you watched "sporadically" might have something to do with your feelings about the show? Even the Nikki and Paolo episode gave us a different insight into things we'd seen previously.Be honest Reflecto: You have a boner for Blondes and all the Blondes on the show have disappeared or been killed off. Shannon, Libby, Claire, Juliet. You just threw Ana Lucia in there to hide your Blonde Fixation.
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What are you, reflecto, a grad student or a professor? No, wait, you can't be either. If you were, you'd understand that most undergraduates don't know their ass from their elbow.
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And don't even try to give me that "I disagree with your opinion so you call me a troll" argument. You are either a troll or a complete moron, which one do you want to admit to?
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Season 1, ep 5 "house of the rising son" = introduction of the adam and eve skeletons, which will prove time travel was planned way in advance. Season 1, ep 7, Sayid first hears the whispers in the jungle en route for Rousseau, the Whispers are part of the main mythology and will be explained in s6. The Black Rock pirate ship, in the season finale of s1, a ship thats in the middle of the damn jungle... how did it get there? This will be explained in s6. Season 2, episode 1, Desmond says to Jack "See you in another life, brotha", and they've been saying it to each other every season since. This is a major hint/tip off to a major story arc from season 6, as you'll see fairly early on in s6. Season 1, Hurley and Sayid pick up a radio signal from the 1940s, and Hurley asks sayid "WHEN are we, dude??" a hint at the time travel to come. You weren't worth it, but oh well. The evidence has been out there. And even more will pile up in s6, if you're still watching. Nobody will miss you, if you don't though bra.
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Those of you who think they had a definite plan are fooling yourselves. Google David Fury's comments from Rolling Stone. They made a lot of shit up as they went. They threw in stuff and figured they would tie some of it together later and drop what they couldn't make sense of.
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The basic idea of the show has always been the same, including the ending. As far as some of the details, those changed. The writers have said that sometimes they don't know the details of how things will happen. They worry about that when they get there. BillboeFett is correct. There's definitely hints scattered throughout the show that they've known where they were going. Another example: Kate and Jack building a runway in Season 3 on the Hydra Island/ Ajira 316 landing on the runway in Season 5.
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basic skeleton, end-game, mythology planned during s1, meat filled in on the bones slowly as they went, treading water, punting, circling the wagon, etc. in a fews spots until they knew WHEN the end would be. At that point, they knew EXACTLY what the skeleton would look like, and said "we need 48 eps left to finish putting the rest of the meat on the bones" That averages 16 eps a season, which is what they got, and then they lobbied to get 2 additional ones for s6.
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that if LOST was cancelled at s2, they would've skipped the hatch, Dharma, Desmond, Ben, etc. and just had Locke meet MIB and go right from there.
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I very much doubt that the Lost we'll see at the end is the Lost they envisaged at the very start. When does this ever happen in long-running television series? Actors join a show then they leave of their own free will, get fired, die prematurely or hit puberty. A season may have been commissioned for 22 episodes but an unforeseen writers strike caused it to be cut short. A network wants to squeeze an extra season out of it so a fair bit of padding is required. Isn't this just obvious stuff that happens from time to time?
I love Lost. Love it. That's not to say, however, that I'm blind to it's faults, which have been correctly identified by many of the posters above. I could pick fault with every season of the show since season one. I also think it's been layer upon layer upon layer of weird shit for the sake of weird shit. I think that some of this weird shit will somehow be tied together in a satisfying conclusion, some of it won't and some of it will be completely ignored. I've come to accept that.Nevertheless, I can't think of a single show over the past six years that I've enjoyed more than Lost. The twists, the characters and their development, the genuine WTF moments, and the humour.
Lost is as much about the journey as the destination and while I hope that key mysteries of the show will be answered or hinted at before the end - and indeed many need to be - don't expect many clear cut answers or resolutions. This show will be debated, discussed and theorised about by fans for decades to come just as many shows before it have been (The Prisoner, The Sopranos, Quantum Leap, etc). I'm not sure I'd want it any other way. -
The motivation for everyone to blow up the bomb in the Incident is lame. Juliet's actions in that episode are also lame. The fact NO ONE even questions that they will not know eachother if the plan works is lame, as is the fact that Jack does it for another shot with Kate EVEN THOUGH HE KNOWS SHE'LL BE IN PRISON!!
Despite all that, and there are other examples, LOST does throw up some interesting ideas and the sheer scope of the storytelling is marvel for network TV. Plus I do think the idea of an undiscovered island with crazy powers and an ancient civilisation is a great premise and allows for some genuinely profound ideas. If that makes me an undergrad theology student then whatever, I enjoy it, and so do many others. The fact we are even having this conversation speaks to the fact that LOST sparks debate like no other show. But LOST fans are sometimes so protective of their show its just crazy, NO SHOW is all planned out from the beginning. Yes the skeletons are there in season 1, that doesn't mean they knew EXACTLY how it would play out in s6. The Dharma stuff obviously wasn't all planned out from the start, because the number of videos, hatches etc does'nt add up, not to mention last season they told us practically nothing new about Dharma, despite spending half a season with them. So yes it has faults, but its still so very fucking entertaining that we forgive them. Reflecto, you're obviously a fan as well, so stop attacking people by saying things like "its for people who aren't used to thinking" because you come off like a culture snob. Personally I find The Wire, Sopranos, Deadwood, BSG and Dollhouse more challenging than LOST but it doesn't mean I enjoy it any less. Its a fun ride so either roll with it or get the fuck off brotha -
His whole diatribe has this giant inferiority complex welded to the whole thing. He can't just say he thinks the philosophical references seem undercooked, others must be insulted so he can be the smartest person in the talkback (a true honor). A true asshat, following and arguing about something that he hates and basically admits he pirated. Go jerk off to a Proust novel or something, you sully your intellectual awesomeness by slumming here in the AICN talkbacks.
Also, I think we all need to take a deep breath and accept that Lost isn't going to tie up every last thread. Still, if you read David Fury's interview on Lostpedia, he talks about a cut line (which ABC thought was too sci-fi) in the first season where Rousseau is asked what her science team was studying and she responds "time". Maybe the show (in the beginning) didn't know exactly what the smoke monster was or that there was going to be a season all about the freighter later on, but I think it demonstrates they at least at some idea where they wanted to go and what they wanted to do. Also, as the show got more popular and the Carton Cuse and Lind got more control, they were able to set an end date for the series. This put an end to a lot of extra stuff they were carrying around just in case they had to have Naomi or Frogurt flashback and I don't think they give a shit about going back to, despite non-fan (in the case of reflecto) whining. Who cares about every last detail about Libby's role in Lost? They usually give enough hints to explain shit like that well enough, anyway.
Also, theGoldbergV, you'll notice Jack's reason for doing almost anything is because he's an obsessive narcissist, and his given reason is usually some crap to cover up his real reason (Often, "Fuck John Locke"). Also, consider Jack's simple viewpoint on the need to fix things, leading a brash charge to essentially fix everyone's problem seems in character. -
LOCKDOWN LOCKDOWN LOCKDOWN
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I agree they knew where they wanted to start, how they wanted to end, but just expanded the story inbetween and of course tweaked the ending to take into account the expansion.
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Jan 24, 2010 7:40:39 AM CST
About this "it's about the journey not the destination" BS
by theapostle
Sometime ago Lindelof and Cuse desperately started to throw out the idea that Lost was about the journey not the destination. They're also fond of saying that Lost is about really about relationships (because they've been written sooo well). Really? Are any of you buying that BS? What they're really saying is that at some point they realized they couldn't deliver on their high concept series which was building mystery upon mystery. In other words, don't expect a satisfying conclusion. Please just be happy with weird, mysterious stuff and character relationships.
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Claire running around in nothing but her panties and a wet t-shirt. And possibly making out with Kate for extended periods of time.
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The 10 are the ones who will have memories of both timelines: The Oceanic 6 minus 1 (no Aaron)(Jack,Kate,Sayid,Sun,Hugo) plus those who were on the plane but made it alive to 1977(Sawyer,Jin,Rose,Bernard and Claire?)Also, anyone from the future who made it back to 1977 at least up to the bomb blast would know both timelines (Miles and Juliet). The murky cases as far as knowing both timelines are Locke, Desmond, Richard Alpert, Faraday, and Eloise Hawking - they all might know something has happened. Obviously they have to bring the two timelines together - different rules for them perhaps. Why the characters would want to do so and how they would do so...beats me. Obviously Desmond would want a timeline where he gets to be together with Penelope, but he is not one of the LA 10 if I am right.
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...prior to the Revolutionary War the economic modalities especially of the southern colonies could most aptly be characterized as agrarian precapitalist and...
...C'mon..tell me true that Reflecto and most of her troll-y ilk don't remind ya of Clark the pony tail guy from Good Will Hunting..
... Look, don't try and pass yourself off as some kind of an LOST intellect..What? is that your thing? Come in here and plagiarize some obscure criticism..pass it off as your own... just to impress some guys you hope to chat up at the Glory Hole in the Rest Stop on the whatever highway of wanker you are rollin down on? to try and fail to embarrass my friends?
..See...the sad thing is, in about 50 years you might start doin' some thinkin'..on your own and by then you'll realize there are only two certainties in life.
REFLECTO: Yeah? What're those?
LOST TB'rs: One, don't do that. Two. Don't be pretentious unless you mix it with crazy. example. MacFaux. Three. you dropped fifteen grand on a JUCO education in film you coulda' picked up for a dollar fifty in late charges at Blockbuster...
REFLECTO: Oh, Yeah? Well I will have an Associate degree in pretentious Cinema.. a sublime appreciation of Godard, Herzog, Larry Clark... an understanding of Jean Maurice Eugène Clément Cocteau, the brilliance of Timothy Robins and you'll still be on AICN talking geek fanboy with my adopted Angolan kids on our way to the Bulgarian National Film Festival...
LOST TB'rs: ..Maybe. But at least I won't be an unoriginal pretentious boring prick.
MacFaux: But if you got a problem like that, I guess we can step outside and deal with it...
~1st NOTE: I actually like Cocteau ..snort..snicker.. Both Jean and the Twins..true story. once. along time ago. in Prague. At a bar. I actually asked for all the Cocteau Twins autographs on page I had titled. labeled. 'Cocktail Twins'. And Robin Guthrie stared shook his head in unison with the bartender..who sigh'd "Dumbass"..true story.)
~2nd NOTE: Pay attention Billboe...I think i am gonna go Post and spoil how LOST will end in node 41067 ...should you care.
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One big flaw in my theory that was just pointed out by Mrs. Furioso is that Sun did not go back to 1977 - which throws off my math at the very least. I still think my overall prediction is right, but I don't know who the 10th person would be in this case...
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Some such time ago.. Nov 19th, 2009
09:59:49 PM.
http://tinyurl.com/OrlandoNo
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LOST talkback master Billboefett did the math:
Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, Sun, Jin, Sayid, Claire, Boone, Charlie.
Which ain't to far and maybe more all right now than my assertion that the LA X - LA 10 - Los Angeles 10 is aboot..countin the 'known' Oceanic deaths.
But its nota contest itsa game..right? -
mention-ed that too...
Sun did not go back to 1977 because Jeremy Bentham slash John Locke slash Not John Locke slash whatever he is...
Did not visit her. He did not ask her to go 'BACK'..yes. yes, he visited Walt. But he did not ask Walt to go 'BACK'. Nor did he visit or ask Ben.
"The range is good. Agreed?" -
It's official.
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I'm just asking
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Jan 24, 2010 12:02:48 PM CST
theGoldbergV, so you didn't actually watch the finale
by mattmanreturns
if you think "NO ONE" questioned that they won't know each other... seeing as this was a major running theme the entire finale. Kate was pretty pissed at Jack over it and Juliet said she'd rather not know Sawyer than lose him.
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not being addressed onscreen when it is addressed onscreen...Reminds me of a STAR TREK talkback.
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How the hell do you format text in this talkback? How do I write in paragraphs?
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...because the conditions of the original crash weren't exactly recreated. This explanation was given by Lindelof and Cuse in the S5 recap "A Journey in Time" and is simple to infer from the episodes themselves.
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...you have a Nielsen box on your TV, I take it?
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Okay, so paragraphs are easy in these talkbacks, but a bit more complicated to explain. Basically, when you want to make a paragraph break, you hit return, type in "" (without the parathesese, if I don't inlcude them it will just make a paragraph break and you won't see the symbol) and then return again and start typing your next paragraph. So you're making a p surrounded by respectively. It sounds more confusing than it is. That symbol won't show up, it disappears and makes the space. Don't ask me why, but someone explained it to me like this one time, so I am happy to do the same for you. without the parentheses. ()
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Damnit. I thought that made it ok. Okay, so its just a less than symbol, followed by a p, followed by a greater than symbol.
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sorry but it's the truth
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Yeah, millions of obsessed fans are wrong and you are right. Whoops! I apologize for all of us, old chap, it won't happen again.
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It's you who most certainly sucks..not Lost.
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yeah fair enough, so that bit about NO ONE in capital letters was wrong. My bad. Shouldn't smoke and talkback, causes problems. I stand by the rest of it though
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look at this theory? The island has a far-back reaching history no doubt, rejuvenates people to the point of everlasting life, constantly moving and shifting as if not to be found, a protection system that really seems more supernatural that technological and let' not forget Jacob and the other guy....Bible says two angels were set to protect the garden with flaming swords (metaphor if you carry this to its end) and recall the kind of "watcher of men" like debate they had at the outset of season 5 with Jacob seeing hope in humanity and the other guy seeing futility in God's best creation. What you guys think? I mean Abrams and Lindelof are Jews so it's not outside their realm of thought.
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I mean if they ended back in Eden at their deaths and of course it is possible remains decay far less rapidly due to the island's qualities.
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Jack and Kate, ZING!
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Trust me its worth it
http://www.collider.com/2010/01/23/lost-flight-815-crash-in-real-time/
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WAIT... maybe it's really 10 POINT 2, and the second episode REALLY starts 8 minutes into the FIRST episode and WHAT THE FUCK IT'S FUCKING LAX.
this LA 10 theory can suck a dick. and not just any dick. my dick. -
"Personally I find The Wire, Sopranos, Deadwood, BSG and Dollhouse more challenging than LOST." Dollhouse? More challenging than Lost? Really? REALLY??
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Don't know how I missed this juicy little quote: "I watched sporadically until Season 4." Wow. And yet you have the gall to bitch and moan about how things that HAVE been explained onscreen make no sense to you?? Priceless. You should join a debate team and then just sorta glance over some information on your subject beforehand. What a joke.
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Yup, I've watched almost every episode but I'd never seen the very first one.
Very weird watching it when you already know every character's shit. -
Herc... in a sense, I think you're on to something. If we see an alternate timeline, the characters most affected would be those born (or not) after '77--- taking us back to the prior theory that the kids are at least one key to understanding "Lost." Of course, at least one confounding variable looks to be Walt, as he tends to be places where "he's not supposed to." Actually, one must wonder if all the kids of "Lost" are confounding variables...
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The last season! It all leads up to this, but then no more lost! Suck. I think True Blood and Breaking Bad are the only things left that are worth watching...
Oh and that's a terrible theory Herc, and you know it. Sure, the comic con video hints at that, but they've given us bad information EVERY TIME. Personally I think it's a macguffin. Like the others, it doesn't quite fit in, but it does introduce you to a theme of the next season. As in it's not what you think, but it sorta is.
Maybe SOMETHING changes, or they changed the island in a way that's already been revealed and since change is relative everything's the same when they get back? -
I ain't watching that shit overnight. That's my little pissant rebellion. Pissant, yes. But at least I didn't write Season 3.
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DVR. Riiiiiight.
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I just want to know what exactly the point was of characters like Walt and Libby.
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yeah I've made that mistake a few times too, heheh.
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I enjoyed it the first time, but I seem to be loving it more the second time.
Think last time I was thinking too much about things like "how and when (what episode) will they get back to the island", "when will X happen" etc.
Now I sit back and just enjoy the ride, and what a ride it is. -
Things the NEED to explain: What’s the island? What’s the monster? Who’s Jacob? Who’s the other guy? Out of Ben and Widmore, who’s the bad guy? What happened to Claire? What’s up with Jack’s dad? What’s up with Hurley’s/Miles’s visions of dead people? Who are the skeletons? What’s the statue? Who is Richard? Why is Sun still in the present? What did the others want Walt for? Was Locke’s entire life just a cruel joke played by the man in black?
Things they could explain but I don’t care either way: Is Hurley cursed? What’s up with Walt’s psychic powers? Libby’s back story. Why can’t islanders have babies anymore?
Things they should NOT explain: Island healing. The interconnectedness of everyone’s pre-flight back story. Jack’s tattoo. Locke’s sweatlodge. Oh wait, they explained those already.
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what was the explanation, other than being a preview of the premiere of s6 3 years in advance?
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Need an answer:
1. Who is Jacob.
2. Who is the MIB
3. What is the smoke monster
4. What is the Temple ?
5. What are the Whispers ?
6. Who is Richard Alpert and why doesn’t he get older ?
7. What was the deal with Jacob’s cabin, was it Jacob or MIB using it?
8. What is the deal with the numbers ? Are they cursed, do they have more meaning ?
9. Why did Jacob touch and choose certain people ?
10. High level answer of what is the Island ? Don’t need to know how it works to the nth degree.
Would like an answer:
1. Was that really Christian, or Jacob/MIB taking the form of Christian and if so why Christian ?
2. Who built the ancient items on the island, like the statue, or the donkey wheel, or the temple ?
3. What is the significance of the Black Rock ?
4. Who are Adam and Eve ? (Obvious guess is still Rose and Bernard )
5. What is the deal with Walt?
6. What is the deal with Desmond ?
7. Why do Hurley and Miles see dead people ?
8. What is the deal with the rules in regards to the feud between Ben and Widmore ?
9. Are Ben and Widmore just a couple of feuding former leaders of the Others, who both want the Island for themselves or is there something more to it ?
10. Did the Others just want the kids to build their ranks or was their more meaning to it ?
I really do think that most of my top 10 will be answered. I also think that once we learn a bit more about Jacob, MIB and what they are doing on the Island a whole stack of questions will be answered in a short period of time.
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1. Who is Jacob.
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about your "secret" identity, I'd like you to introduce me to some people and give me a leg up for my career. And by leg up, I DO NOT mean hot-tubbin! And I'm in that node you mentioned, so go right ahead and do what thou wilt, or Walt, that is.
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Jan 25, 2010 3:53:08 AM CST
Could imagine this scene with me and Damon and Carlton
by miyamoto_musashi
Miyamoto_Musashi: “Damon & Carlton who is Jacob ? “
Judge Herc: “You don’t have to answer that question! “
Damon & Carlton: “We'll answer the question! “
[to Miyamoto_Musashi]
Damon & Carlton:” You want answers?”
Miyamoto_Musashi: “I think I'm entitled.”
Damon & Carlton: “You want answers?”
Miyamoto_Musashi: “I want the truth!”
Damon & Carlton: “You can’t handle the truth!”
[pauses]
Damon & Carlton: “ Son, we live in a world that wants fresh entertainment and that entertainment has to be full of mysteries. Whose gonna write it You? You, Miyamoto_Musashi? We have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for unsolved mysteries, who is Libby etc, and you curse our writing staff. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what we know. Knowing that you don’t know who Jacob is, while frustrating at time, probably made the lives of millions that much more interesting. And our existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, results in great entertainment. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want us writing that entertainment, you need us creating entertainment. We use words like mystery, drama, action. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent providing entertainment. You use them as a punchline to some complaining comments on a geek talkback. We have neither the time nor the inclination to explain ourselves to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the great entertainment that we provide, and then questions the manner in which we provide it. We would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, we suggest you pick up a pen, and create a show. Either way, we don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.”
Miyamoto_Musashi: “Who is Jacob?”
Damon & Carlton: “He is…”
Miyamoto_Musashi: “Who is Jacob?”
Damon & Carlton: “He is God, goddam it, God did it!”
...apologies to Aaron Sorkin -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc9D5BAWT-M
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9sfhtDKvUc&feature=related
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quantum field theory, or women, or any other number of things you probably don't know anything about?
because we give a shit.
speaking of giving a shit, you can watch season 6 "sporadically" while you're crawling out of our collective asshole.
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Jan 25, 2010 6:40:52 AM CST
I don think its what you guys think its going to be....
by youkissthewookie
Im not going to pretend i know how its all going to turn out...but for one...Hugo is the one responible for the numbers, if you watch the episode where Jin is with young danielle you can clearly hear Hugo's voice saying the numbers in the transmission....its like the episode of star trek (cause and effect) the numbers are possibly whats going to save them all. :D
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I assume there are questions that you want answered, that if they do not answer, you will feel f'd over.
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Wasn't paying close enough attention to catch it in that particular scene, but we did hear the numbers being broadcast on Ajira 316's radio as it crash landed, and you're absolutely right that it was Hurley's voice on the radio.
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Got aroound to The Deep End on the DVR ..during the show there is a diff LOST promo than the one Herc mentions above. Think it shows sev new scenes almost all are blink and you miss them:
*Charlie hugging Jin in the Dark..
*Claire from behind w/ Smokie and sonic fence
*Jack staring longingly as he does
*After Locke blows the Sub..there is a quick cut to a different explosion ..that looks Mushroom-y and has the Sound FX heard at the end of S5 The incident. BOOM. -
Love Frank's facial expressions, on occasion they are absolutely priceless.
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Does anyone have a still of the map they were given to get them to the temple at the end of last season?
It looked pretty interesting with the statue looking out over a whole host of soldiers or people (in a heiroglyphic stylee) or maybe another island (or the underworld which has been hinted at loads of times during the show, for example the symbols on the counter when the numbers weren't put in).
That made me think that the statue and the island (plus jacob and the other guy - the white and black that's been referenced so many times e.g. the backgammon chips) are meant to guard something?
I do find the idea of the two angels sent to guard Eden as someone mentioned above interesting but what does that make the energy anomaly and the smoke monster? Something to do with the Fall? Was one of the angels in the bible fighting against the other?
I don't think I've ever been so excited but also scared of a tv show finale in my life!!!! -
Wakka wakka wakka!
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I think it is obvious that MIB is the smoke monster. When Ben got confronted by the smoke monster and was told to do whatever Flocke tells him to do. You notice that Flocke said he was going to get some rope and then the monster appeared, then after the monster left, Flocke re-appeared with the rope.
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLT!!!
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They Took My Boy!!!!!!
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"Where is my wife?!"
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Good one. You're a mental giant.
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This game is fun.
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involvement in Lost? It wasn't even his idea. ABC came up with the concept.
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Abrams left after shooting the pilot. He gave the show to Lindelof, who brought Cuse onboard. You can credit ABC for the concept, Abrams for the pilot, and Lindelof+Cuse for the show. But only Lindelof has had the major mythology and end-game in his head.
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Although, thank god, it's been Lidelof and Cuse for the most part.
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Jan 25, 2010 10:02:51 PM CST
amazing how Herc sees a single frame of Claire with a gun
by billboefett
and concludes "wow... Claire has a gun.. this can mean only one thing.... ALL THEIR IDENTITIES HAVE SWITCHED IN THEIR BODIES!!!!?!?!?!"
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Just passed Titanic
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isnt there a goat or something u have to molest??
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As other have commented your "idol" JJ has very little to do with Lost.
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Why can't they show ALL episodes at once! I would close all doors and windows, disconnect the phone AND the internet. I would be all in for that freakin' rollercoaster ride! Probably years after that day someone would find my remains... and a grin on that old skull of mine...
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Why can't I put a question mark where it belongs...?
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Why does a troll have to hurt Isaac's legacy?
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if u have read ANY of his posts in other talkbacks, then u would have ur answer. very lonely and angry piece of shit for some reason. i mean Star Trek ,in the end, IS ONLY A MOVIE.....
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Damn' right, Sir!
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Well, THAT would be original, wouldn't it?
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Cause..as every effete, elite, know..err.. 'show it all' snob knows...
The Wire is the best show ev-ah! ...and anything other than that.. even the Sopranos..even Six Feet Under..even blah blah blah and that an otherwise is Bob's dirty pants..
The Wire ..A show bout uncommon base Black Folk as somethin common elite White Folk do like...
Oh yes, sir..See Clander verse #85 and. ass. the prophet has typed:
http://tinyurl.com/pretentio
"For the past three years, whenever you say “The Wire” white people are required to respond by saying “it’s the best show on television.” Try it the next time you see a white person! Though now they might say “it WAS the best show on television.”
So why do they love it so much? It all comes down to 'authenticity'. A long time ago, someone started a rumor that when The Wire is on TV, actual police wires go quiet because all the dealers are watching the show. Though this is not true, it seems plausible enough to white people and has imbued the show with the needed 'authenticity' to be deemed acceptable.
The popularity of this show among white people has created a unique opportunity for personal gain.
If you need to impress a white person, tell them you are from Baltimore. They will immediately ask you about The Wire and how accurate it is. You should confirm that it is “like a documentary of the streets,” the white person will then slowly shake their head and say “man” or “wow.” You will be seen in an entirely new light.
Yeah. I'll type it. The Wire? The Sopranos? Six Feet Under? Entourage? ....massively, massively mediocre, over-hyped derivative dreck feted larger for nothing more than dirty words and naked bods.
What a bunch of Bullsh! ..but heh..David Simon, among others, thanks you for your ignorant lemming indulgence. Have you stupid lil kids na watched one episode of Hawaii Five-O?
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so are we all agreed that the losties are all variables in an equation to determine the longevity of the human race, and that the island is the equation itself, and jacob and his nemesis are on opposing sides of a divide between immortal beings over whether or not mankind should end at the specified date and time provided in the solution to the equation (4/8/15 16:23:42) in every instance it has thus far been run, and the 815/316 survivors are jacob's last chance at changing the equation's solution, thus prolonging the human race's longevity?
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http://tinyurl.com/ylo6fr3
Pretty funny.
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