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The Guy That Smells like my wife's best friend's candle is playing CONAN?!?!?
Hey folks, Harry here... So I read at Deadline via Mike Fleming that Jason Momoa was hired for the new CONAN THE BARBARIAN movie... and just when the real CONAN could use a job. First NBC was pricks to Conan, now Millennium Films. So sad. Anyway, I exclaimed... "Who is Jason Momoa?" out loud at the house, when suddenly my adorable wife, curled up on the couch playing some damnable FACEBOOK farming game squeals, "He's from BAYWATCH HAWAII!" What... the... fuck.... I look at her like an alien creature that is no longer capable of human speech, as she attempts to explain that the hunky dude from BAYWATCH HAWAII - which she's never seen - was a figure of legend. You see... when Yoko was even more childlike than she is, she'd go to her best friend's house - where her best friend's sister and BFF would snort the scent of a candle and coo, "It smells just like Jason Momoa!" and so... that's how she knew. I'm still gonna look at my wife like she's an alien creature for namechecking BAYWATCH HAWAII - but apparently he's also from those STARGATE ATLANTIS stuff too. Well, now he's gonna be CONAN for Marcus Nispel. Other than Momoa's alleged candle fragrance, I have no input into how this will play. But I hear he smells awesome!
Over at Latino Review - they're reporting that an offer is on the table to Mickey Rourke to play Conan's dad. In the original, biker god William Smith had that honor - Mickey would probably be great in the role, but my exploitation loving ass will always hold William Smith as Conan's dad. He taught me about Crom when I was but a child!
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Conan for the Fabio set.
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Jan. 21, 2010, 9:19 p.m. CST
Couldn't be a worse actor than Arnold, at least
by DanielPlainviewOnVacationInBoston
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This guy looks like someone the "real" Conan would slaughter on sight. Pathetic. Another potentially great franchise ruined before it even gets off the ground. Eff this douche.
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He was barely adequate on Stargate Atlantis.. in this he's just going to be terrible. His acting is shit, and he's going to have to gain at least a 100 lbs in muscle to even look the part, I swear. He's KIND of tall & to damn skinny... wtf? How do these decisions get made?
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Wtf?
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He's 6'4". Height isn't the problem -- muscle and the look is. A Hawaiian/German/Irish guy with dreads? Yeah, no.
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And bullshit! That is NOT Conan! And is Milius involved? If not, this is not the Conan I want to see. So, fuck this!
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Could have chosen better but not bad. He's kinda like REH described, "lithe as a panther, deep of chest, copper skin." Doesnt look suitably caveman like enough though.
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Is so bad ass it will kick your hair's ass. He was also fairly bad ass in Stargate. He can work this.
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what the fuck is this shite?? are they desperate or cheap? wow. im speechless. i would have taken that buff austrian dude from son of the beach before i accept this guy. damn. if they justin long in it i'm sockin somebody in the face. conan is ruined.
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Aren't the Cimmerians supposed to basically be Celtic? And isn't Conan supposed to giant and massive?
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if they put justin long in it.. ah forget it...
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Conan needs to be a bigger dude.
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but we're talking about playing a sword wielding warrior (which is an accurate description of his Atlantis character Ronan Dex) not Truman Capote. So yeah for the Stargate alum getting Hollywood props. HUZZAH!
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Weird Al needs to do more movies! :(
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The more I think about it the more pissed off I get. That guy ain't Conan. No. Not ever. I can hear the studio people talking it over. "Yeah, but he'll bring in more of an ethnic audience." Conan is white! Fuck this bullshit.
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Jan. 21, 2010, 9:33 p.m. CST
And we gave them a president do they need Conan too?
by Mel_Gibsons_Nazi_Dad
I'm talking about hawaiians of course...
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to appreciate these shenanigans
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I am not pleased. Also Arnold is the shit, haters be damned.
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Okay the squinty, surly, gruff, Jamaican Clint Eastwood thing worked for Atlantis, but this guy is nowhere near the Berserker physique necessary for Conan. He'd have to roid out for years to get to that. There have to be better choices. I know what the answer will be: "We're trying to take it in a new direcetion." But that wouldn't be Conan, he's too iconic. Hell it wouldn't even be Grognak!
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Arnold is in the lexicon, but the dude was very far removed from the original description in the books. Because he's such an unknown, you already know the supporting cast will be full of A-list to compensate.
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When was Conan a pretty boy? This is not looking good.
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A fucking underwear model?
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shaka brah!
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Now that I'm interested in, this I dunno. As long as the chicks are hot and it's gory as hell I'll probably like it.
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Not buff enough for Conan.
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he'll be using Cats for arrows instead of snakes... "Watch out Willie!"
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in my life. Kudos for that. I'm still trying to wrap my brain around what it means.
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"NOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
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as Khal Drogo.
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...they're planning. I can't even argue that this guy is TOO far off of Howard's description. "Hither came Conan, the Cimmerian, black-haired, sullen-eyed, sword in hand, a thief, a reaver, a slayer, with gigantic melancholies and gigantic mirth, to tread the jeweled thrones of the Earth under his sandalled feet..." — Robert E. Howard, The Phoenix on the Sword But THAT GUY is NOT CONAN! Gaaaah!
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Two Words: Til Schweiger. He's big, scary, and German. I think you need someone who kind of looks and sounds like Arnold because that's the cinematic Conan. Also, Schweiger is a stone-cold badass. Also, Mickey Rourke might be an interesting choice but this Mimosa guy doesn't look anything like him! At least Solomon Kane looks kind of decent...and there's a new Kull movie? Good thing Robert E. Howard already shot himself, probably after some prophetic vision of Kevin Sorbo.
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Seriously, he's playing Khal Drogo, the horse warlord king who takes the exiled princess Danaerys as his queen, in the pilot of the HBO version of Game of Thrones. And for that, he's damn near perfect... but not for Conan.
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Jan. 21, 2010, 9:48 p.m. CST
babblerouser, you've brought back a few memories there :)
by FamousEccles
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HBO better take that shit to series.
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well played, Harry.
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...can help a piece of shit script. So fuck everyone involved with this shit for approving a script that makes the train crash known as SOLOMON KANE seem like brilliance.
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A thousand times FUCK NO!!!!!!!!!!
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Some a-hole was telling me that Taylor Lautner was the frontrunner for this. When i first read this headline i thought this was confirmation. Not good but could be way worse.
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Seems like the bigger news. I have no opinion about this guy other than he really needs to bulk up for the role. I highly doubt this film will be a pimple on the ass of Milius' masterpiece.
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Jan. 21, 2010, 9:54 p.m. CST
Conan. Spiderman. Conan Late Night. Mad Max. What the fuck?!?
by future help
Did i wake up in another dimension a little while ago? What the FUCK? Where are ALL of these piss-poor changes coming from? A low budget teen angst Spidey? Kiling Conan Late night? Mad Max without Mel? Conan the Barbarian played by someone way too small? WTF?!!
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Momoa couldn't act his way out of a wet paper bag and doesn't have the physique to pull off Conan. Conan is the baddest goddamn barbarian in the Hyborian world and Momoa looks like a cool breeze would knock him over. Fuck.
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Seriously?
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I think I would have preferred the Twilight doofus to him...
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Woah mon, de wemon are lamenting wit de hash, mon. Hows my dreds, mon.
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King Conan Ahnold I mean. Shit man, I can't envision this at all.
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Not one of these studio idiots bothered to check the source material...AGAIN. I know many of these submentals are illiterate, but that's no excuse. There is a slew of art that captures Conan perfectly. Artists like Buscema, Frazetta and Brom have depicted Conan exactly as Howard described him. You would think these studio retards could at least look at a picture for fuck's sake. But no, we get stuck with a dreadlocked Hawaiian surfer as Conan. Do these shitheads even know that Conan is essentially a Northman, with white skin and blue eyes? And watch -they'll make this PG-13 and throw in Kobe Bryant as his best friend. Fuck this nonsense.
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Firstly, Harry your bias article most likely had thousands of people already not liking Momoa for the role. The chosen picture, the way you described him, ect. That shit's pretty lame on your part. Also, most of you will eat your words when the trailer comes out. He was amazing in SGA. Guttural, badass, and NOT "pretty." I bet almost all of you wrote similar things when Heath Ledger was cast as the Joker. "waaaa! he was in Ten Things I Hate About You!" "waaaaa he's too handsome!" "A Knight's Tale??! COME ON NOLAN!" Me? I stuck to my guns and defended Ledger until the first trailer came out, which shut people the fuck up. Be patient and don't let a fucking picture of him as a surfer send you off the deep end, because like I said, I'm pretty sure with the direction they are taking Conan (close to the books) Momoa will crush this role.
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www.thrfeed.com/2009 /10/game-of-thrones-cast- with-photos-.html
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Dude, I hate to dismiss something out of hand, but is this on the real? I'm a Conan fan from wayback, and I would hope they don't try to replicate the 80s movie, but do they really have a good lock on what Howard's creation is? Because unless this guy's got some potential I'm missing here, I don't see it.
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I meant to give you this link: http://www.thrfeed.com/ 2010/01/hbo-games-of- thrones-dailies-look-fantastic.html
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Every day I receive umpteen notifications about various friends success at finding lost cows. Fuckers.
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... a frontman in a reggae cover band with a residency at a vacation resort. I can almost hear his renditions of 'Bad Boys' and 'Baby, I Love Your Way'...
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Jan. 21, 2010, 10:16 p.m. CST
Uh, last time I checked, Cimmerians didn't look gay
by Chuck_Chuckwalla
Gerard Butler, now that's fucking Conan.
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He's done too many romantic comedies with a butchered american accent to ever be taken seriously again. Top that off with Gamer and Law Abiding Citizen and you've got one horrendous actor.
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Right on, Chuckwalla.
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In the same breath is an oxymoron.
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I hate to shit on another man just doing his thing, but, come on, I've got more bulk than this guy. What's with comparative weaklings getting cast as Thor and Conan?
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Arnold's Conan was enjoyable, if goofy. If you want to do it right, though, go the Avatar route but make it look like a Frazetta painting. Maybe in 20 years the technology will be cheap enough where it won't cost the GDP of a small nation to make.
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Could use another note or two in his playlist, and we've already seen his "Conan" in ever other film he's done.<p>I remain interested until a terrible trailer, horrendous word of mouth, or one of the other dozen things that could put me off. This dude isn't one of them.
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Even Dwayne Johnson (who would be completely wrong) would be better than this rasta man wannabe. Wait and see.
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Jan. 21, 2010, 10:22 p.m. CST
LOL!!! They got the 3rd-rate Worf guy from SG:Atlantis!
by TheGhostWhoLurks
That's FUNNY!!! :D<p>Jason Momoa's got the physique of a 6'4" male model... tall, but extremely lean! He's got nowhere NEAR the monstrous build of Arnold, or ANY bodybuilder. Maybe they're going for a "BeastMaster" surfer look, but poor Momoa's gonna end up looking like a JOKE, compared to Arnold's version of CONAN.<p>At least, with those nasty facial scars he got in a barfight last year, his FACE will look like its been in a battle or two. :)
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Jan. 21, 2010, 10:23 p.m. CST
The hell with this, where's my Christina Hendricks' Red Sonja???
by Shermdawg
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... just remember the other guy up for the part? Was a guy from Twilight. At least Jason Momoa has worked with weapons and played a warrior before. Also I don't think that pic is the best one to show how he looks.
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And I'm NOT joking.
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http://tinyurl.com/yeq8x49
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Oh.My.God.
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I know there are some hardcore Conan fans around here. This TB should be pretty interesting...
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She'd need to trade about 20 pounds for muscle. Otherwise yes.
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http://tinyurl.com/yak99qj
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cause he cut them off like 2 years ago so calling him "rasta man" is outdated
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You're slowly turning me gay.
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Yeah, sure, he's gay alright.
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Not homosexual gay.
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http://tinyurl.com/yblunlj
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I can't stand to sit through any Stargate incarnation.
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lol You are NOT helping.
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"Continue to hear that only if 'Game of Thrones' producers royally blow this pilot will the network fail to give it a green light." <p> I like the sound of that. It still doesn't mitigate the news that they've miscast Conan, but if they get ASOIAF right (and give it the chance it needs after they pick it up) I'll be happy enough.
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They could do this as a comedy, kinda like when Cheech and Chong went to Amsterdam and were mistaken for Burt Reynolds and Dolly Pardon.
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So they'll straighten his hair (we can hope) and give him some blue contact lenses, right? He's going to have to bulk up significantly. Conan didn't have a basketball player's physique, obviously. Man, this guy needs a lot of work.
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I'm so appalled that these Hollywood dimwits would go so low as to cast a 2nd rate-pretty boy-wannabe-actor for Conan. They must not be real fans or have never read any of the books. Such a shame :-(
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I love that movie. Even though it's not entirely true to the character.
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That's the best idea I've heard all year. And if it's not true to the source material, fuck the source material. <p> THREAD DERAILED!
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Hervé Villechaize wasn't dead he'd probably be more suitable.
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The first 15 minutes of that movie is a pretty damn good Conan adaptation, and the rest is just a great movie. You can never go wrong with Mako as your sidekick and James Earl Jones shooting snakes, is what I say.
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She gets my vote for Red Sonja!
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It's my favorite movie EVER! I was already saying I wasn't interested in another Conan unless a) he was involved and b) it was subtitled The King. Now I'm actually pissed. I'll have nothing to do with this mess.
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'Count Screwface' thinks this Moke was awesome in SGA. LOLz. This jabrone was one of the reasons I got TIRED of watching that show. You called him Gutteral, Badass...you forgot to add WOODEN, MECHANICAL, CUT-OUT. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm being very harsh on a guy that smells like a sexy candle. *SNIFF SNIFF* I smell a genre actor that's gonna take this property and make it a SyFy Original. I smell a cheaply made movie with foreign money that will get a theatrical release in Borneo and one theater in Mississippi, and DVDs getting released in Shanghai before a fall sweeps premiere on SyFy. This movie will not fail because of Mamoa. Its destined to fail because its not being made by Oliver Stone and John Milius. It needs to be written like a goddamn epic war movie; not some fucking toss off episode of XENA. Expectations=zero.
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someone in the video store asking if they had 'Snow Falling On Cheddars'.
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I'm talking W - O - M - A - N.<P>WOMAN.<P>Hot damn.
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...I don't see a damn thing that's tough, kick ass, chain mail bikini or sword wielding about her. She looks like she'd pout and complain if she broke a nail. Don't get me wrong, she's very attractive. But I'm not sure she's Sonja.
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...imagine them boobies in a chain mail top. She is Red Sonja. <p> :)
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...let this be a joke.<P>Let this be a joke.<P>Let this be a joke. <P>Let this be a joke.<P> Let this be a joke.<P> Let this be a joke.<P>Let this be a joke. <P>Let this be a joke. <P>Let this be a joke. <P>Let this be a joke. <P>Let this be a joke. <P>Let this be a joke. <P>Let this be a joke. <P>Let this be a joke. <P>Let this be a joke. <P>Let this be a joke. <P>Let this be a joke. <P>Let this be a joke. <P>Let this be a joke. <P>Let this be a joke. <P>Let this be a joke. <P>Let this be a joke. <P>Let this be a joke. <P>Let this be a joke.
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I'm a huge REH fan, love the original Conan stories. So to find out that Conan, a Northman (Caucasian), with long, straight black hair, and blue eyes, is now...a Hawaiian. Holy fuckin' hell man, pure blasphemy. It has absolutely nothing to do with racism, and EVERYTHING to do about race. Regardless of Howard's racial views, he is extremely clear of his description of Conan. These god damn hacks have never read a single story. REH is clawing his way up out of his grave as I type this. Lift your chin & bare your neck Marcus Nispel, let him get it over with quick.
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I don't have a problem with this. Let's bring Tayla along too.
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In my head she's naked post coitus... but that's not to be discussed right now. I actually own most every Red Sonja comic released so I've got an image (correct or not) of Red in my head. Christina just doesn't look the part to me. She doesn't look mean or tough at all.
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Are you kidding?! She could kill you by looking at you.
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Jan. 21, 2010, 10:48 p.m. CST
...I feel slightly ill. I've never had this reaction to casting
by FlickaPoo
...news before...
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I said the same thing, basically. I mean, Conan is white. It's no kind of racism on my part. Not at all. It's just a fact. Big ass white guy with long straight black hair. Gar. Anyway. I'ma go back to Chrisina's boobies now.
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i know he wasn't in it but he looks like he should of ....and that is the type of film he belongs in, not Conan the fucking Barbarian. Officially dismissed.
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I'm fond of the source material. I was into the Cimmerian with the comics as a kid, and later with the books. Is there any existing actor who could fill this role? Perhaps going the relative unknown route could work, a la Superman and Wolverine. But right now? It just doesn't gel.
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Christina Hendricks has big doe eyes, soft cheeks, a small chin and smiling puffy lips in almost every pic I can find. She does NOT look tough. Hot, hell yes! But by that logic woman will be happy with that douche they've chosen to play Conan. See what I'm sayin'?
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...list.
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Hollywood has done us a great service by flushing this down the toilet right from jump street so now I can focus my attention elsewhere. Plus I won't have to listen to a back and forth over if this is good or not. Clear cut. THIS SUCKS. Moving on. Thank you Hollywood you stupid stupid mother fuckers.
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I hear what you're saying. I'm just stickin' up for my girl. Heh.
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...Hendricks and not the giant sucking sound, the gaping absence of badassery that is this casting decision?
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When he was cast as Khal Drogo in A Game of Thrones, I was pumped...he looked like he would do a Mongolian dude some justice. But...seriously...Conan the fucking Barbarian?! I just don't get it. It's not anger or displeasure, this is just pure confusion.
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...Christina Hendricks in the rebooted Barbarella? <p> I'm just going to ignore this miscasting of Conan because I don't want to hate this guy because he's going to be an awesome Khal Drogo.
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...I won't watch this.
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Flicka, I'm WAY more interested in Fury Road than I am this bastardization of Conan. I've never been totally against FR because of the lack of Mel. I just don't know enough about it to say no yet.<br><br.This on the other hand, as Mac points out, is a NO! Thanks Mac.<br><br> Gaius, she is hot. I mean, I have a SERIOUS thing for red heads. I just don't see her holding a sword looking mean.
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Jan. 21, 2010, 10:58 p.m. CST
...I can't even try to be clever or pithy. I'm fucking...
by FlickaPoo
...stunned and...I don't know...horrified...
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Jan. 21, 2010, 10:58 p.m. CST
I thought the guy from Son of A Beach was gonna be Conan?
by BEYONDTHUNDERDOME2GIRLS1CUPBILLCOSBY
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like a lazy cat casually bats at a dangly mouse toy, stretches, yawns and strolls away to shit in a box.
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I said... Thanks Mac, because I agree, I can just ignore this now. And I said, Gaius, I have a serious thing for red heads and Christina is DAMN fine. I just don't see her holding a sword being mean.
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one of my favorite TB names.
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I think that's why so many people keep posting words of incredulation (which isn't even a real word, but that's how inredulous I am... I think the real word is incredulity).
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So they are going to take a major shit on any cred the new Conan might have got. This sucks so bad for a project I had high hopes for. The producers of this flick just do not get it. Hell, Freddy Prinz Jr. would be better than this. CURRENT STATUS OF THIS MOVIE: Dead to all fans everywhere.
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He will PWN as Conan and that is a horrible picture. He looked nothing like that in his long run on Stargate: Atlantis where he pwned with his hands and any kind of wieldable weapon possible. Seriously can't believe Harry didn't recognize this guy from SG...
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actually she does it anyway. I MAKE her do other stuff. hee hee hee.
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Nispel? Fucking Nispel!
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God fucking motherfucker holy shit what the %^$7&% god %&^% why does no one %^%%^#&4 listen to me mother %&^%^$ ^%&^%&^*% ^%&^%76!#@@#$^ R$^%@^&%$$ <P> Jesu&*&$%$%#43 &^%^%%# ^%$%^$* %&^% am I the only one who %&%^#@! listens when I !#$@^ TALK????!?!??!?!?! <P> WHO THE EVER-LIVING F&&$^ thought this was APPROPRIATE??????? <P> Jesus.H.Christ.
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No, that honor should belong to...<P>...DIORA BAIRD!!!!!!!!!!
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and PWN does not exist in this dojo. save that shit for the Raimi WOW TB.
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I'll give you props for having the guts to post something so asininely insane. It has nothing to do with "how he wields a weapon". He's NOT CONAN! He's a Hawaiin surfer dude, bra.
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Because if any of you saw ANY 10-minute clip of him on Stargate Atlantis... you would all eat your words.
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that is the appropriate response. Crom smiles on you.
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...where I'm about to give up on the idea of there ever being a definitive Conan movie. I don't have much faith in the director, and this casting is uninspired.
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but perhaps because I've only seen him on Stargate where he pwned 24... seriously... he was pretty much the only muscle that show ever saw. Tealc was excess comedy.
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HE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE CONAN!!! HE'S CAST INCORRECTLY!!! Many of us hear grew up reading the ORIGINAL BOOKS, the SUBSEQUENT BOOKS and THE COMIC BOOKS!! HE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE CONAN! He could be a brilliant actor and the best "sword wielder" on EARTH!!! HE'S WRONG FOR THE PART!!! lol
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Cause this news reaks of shit! That guy aint Conan... Oh wait Marcus Nispel aka the shitty remake director of TCM and Friday the 13th, who hires guys who work on thier looks more than chicks do for the roles. Ok I see. Fuck this movie. Done!
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Hadn't seen your reasonable response before posting. Dude, he's not Conan.
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i'm judging this book be the cover though. leavin her right up there on the shelf. Please pay no attention to the onslaught of hate heaped on your hero. Maybe you should play some X-Box for awhile. I have a feeling it will only get uglier from here and I care about your feelings;)
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why'd the cast a brother?
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There was a definitive Conan movie released in 1982. I've never had any hope of anything being better. Even if it was a 100% adaptation of Howard, I'm still not sure it would be a better movie than that one.
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Diora Baird is also a very correct answer.
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"Hadn't seen your reasonable response before posting. Dude, he's not Conan"
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I can't be-fucking BELIEVE this HALF-ASSED MOTHER FU -beeeeeeeeeep- SH -beeeeeeeep- <P> DID THEY EVEN READ CONAN?????!?!??!?!? Oh. My. God. The horror. The absolute fucking horror. <P> Hey jackass who got his no-name ass cast as Conan: I hope you hear of my rage. Listen to me, fool: ARNOLD SCHWARZENNEGGER WAS TOO SENSITIVE FOR THIS ROLE. You need to MAN the FUCK UP. <P> Holy -beeeeeeeeeeep- -beeeeeeeeeep-
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But I do know barbarians. And this guy ain't one. Scary Waitress speaks for us all.
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High-five, buddy.
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As the badass horse-riding, stealing-bells-from-those-he-kills-and-wearing-them-in-his-own-hair Khal Drogo. If he sucks in that part I'll worry for Conan, but the author of the series has said good things.
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...I don't usually get all aggressively cappy like that. I had a moment of regret... or a couple seconds, anyway.
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hot yes. Loss of 1,000,000,000,000 cool points for appearing in Stan FUCKING Helsing. Epic Fail. Still hot though.
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...and THEN was cast as Conan is bad news. It's easy, unimaginative casting. Bleh.
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DUDE. He's not Conan;)
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He's Drogo. I'd bet on the Conan thing being one of those things that are purely bullshit. (Unless GoT gets Sopranos #s)
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They look at what other people do and go, "That sounds good."*shrug collective shoulders*<p>
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I love the original movie, but just never tried out the TV show. I've no animosity towards it. I just don't really check out much of television
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Hell, if this is going to be a monumental goddam joke on all of us, please at LEAST entertain me with someone WITTY AND CHARISMATIC. <P> Come ON.
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But what do you think of this guy as Conan? That's the question, really. I have no hate for Stargate, or this guy, just for this guy AS CONAN.
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He was good on that show, but I have a hard time seeing him as Conan.
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Favorite movies of all time. But when I heard news of another Conan movie, I assumed, out of hand apparently, that they would make damn sure to capture the essence of REH's works. Otherwise, there's no reason for this project to exist.
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...to do Conan The King. As it's clearly stated at the end of the only Conan movie that matters that he eventually wears a crown and rules shit.
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...you're telling me there wasn't some scarred up Ultimate Fighter guy who could read the lines?
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...if Momoa's performance as Drogo got him the part of Conan, he's going to be a badass Drogo. <p> Conan would mop the floor with Khal Drogo, though.
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Does this mean Thulsa Doom will be a white guy?
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... in a completely fucked up, upside down world that makes absolutely no fucking sense whatsoever.
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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA [gasp, wiping eyes] HA HA HA AH AH AHA HA HA AHH A HA HAHA HA. <P> Yeah, right. Those pricks crunching numbers in Hollywood give TWO SHITS about real fans and real, lasting classics of pulp fiction. <P> They exist for one reason: to KILL YOUR CHILDHOOD. Know this.
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Avi Lerner and LIONSGATE, you have a HUGE FLOP on your hands now. Grow a pair and do KING CONAN with ARNOLD in the near future when this reboot FLOPS!
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Conan's not supposed to be pretty, he's supposed be a rugged, rough around the edges, scary looking warrior.
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Please. The PC term is OREO. Get it right. <P> Shithead.
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Oh, sorry. Wrong topic.
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Ah yes, I loved that first Conan movie. With all those great scenes where Arnie is clearly overdubbing his lines because his english is so horrible at the time no on ecould understand half of what he was saying. That and considering how SHORT Arnie is compared to Momoa, half of you talkback rejects are sounding like complete fools to be complaining about how he looks. Apparently most of you have forgotten about makeup and the fact the Momoa will probably be bulking up. That picture is also from 1999 or so. Momoa is significantly bigger now, not surfer lean. If any of you watched SGA you would know that. But apparently you all just like to complain ignorantly.
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Kill... rape... seriously, either way, your life as you know it is kinda over... <P> As a chick, I steer away from the whole rape angle, meself, you know? But whatevs. Thanks for the sensitivity.
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...hands and a candle...<P>...because...um, he's not manly enough...<P>I'm not sure where I was going with that one. I thought it got off to a strong start, but...
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Jan. 21, 2010, 11:30 p.m. CST
Check out his wiki here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Momoa
by Jaka
His mother is German/Irish-American, his father Native Hawaiin (Polynesian).
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It's not the look we're complaining about, it's the presence. <P> Shit on Ah-nold's acting ability- or lack thereof, depending on what school you're in- all you want. The fact was, at the very least, he brought it in terms of rugged male presence. Period. He may not have LOOKED the part as far as what Conan in the books was, but he OWNED that shit... and hell, even now, at half his "normal" body weight, he still has ten times the charisma of this purdy-boy. <P> I agree with Flicka. We need a gritty-ass UFC Champion... but one who can at least KIND-OF act. <P> Someone tell me AGAIN why they're remaking this???!?!?!??!?!?!?
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Thanks for the mention!
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Whatever. Have you EVER seen so many people in agreement about something in a talkback? Whether it be positive or negative? Easily 95% of the people posting are in a rage about this guy being Conan. It has nothing to do with Stargate or how big he is now, or how short Arnie is for that matter. Arnie was as big as a truck! Bigger than his bodybuilding days. This guy will never be half that and he just doesn't look like Conan.
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...Batman or Superman is being miscast...<P>It hurts.<P> I don't like it.
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definitive Conan movie IMHO. It's what John Milius's adaptation should've been.
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your right up there with YoYoDynePropulsionSystems in my book
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Arnold didn't HAVE to speak a lot because squinting, flexing his muscles and saying, "Crooooom" was a more believable Conan than this guy will EVER be able to pull off.
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Hell, Scary, if Lucas gets stuck on the directorial sexual predator list for the prequels, then this is at least the equivalent of first degree murder on a character.
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Which kinda makes me all short bus on my comment. But whatever.. Timmaaaaay!
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... he has to be half animal, half man. But with brains. <P> Look, basically, we need Hercules. The REAL one. Does Mr. Pretty-boy No Name look like HERCULES to anyone here? HMMMM???????? <P> Right. I thought not. <P> God d -beeeeeeeep- these ass h -beeeeeeep- Hollywood pricks...
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The negativity here has become worse than 4chan. Seriously. I've only seen him on Stargate but it is enough for me to reserve judgment until I see some more info or clips.
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Seriously, what the hell happened to Dwayne Johnson? Tooth Fairy? Are they fucking kidding me? I blame Vice McMahon for Johnsons shitty action fare that he started with, after that, I just don't know. He's been pandering to kids with his latest movies it seems. And Walking Tall insulted me on levels that I still can't forgive.
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...young and leaner Conan of the early stories, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah..."<P>I still don't see it.
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"Thats Conan?!!? Look at his Fucking gapped teeth! He can't even speak!"<p>Listen, someone, I don't care who. Just admit your 47 years old and remember what people where saying about Arnold as Conan back in the day.<p>I promise no one will make fun of you for being a loser with no life. Shit. Did I fuck that up already. Shit.
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before he gave up on the steroids...But back in the day, he had that mad Conan steeze goin' when he made his entrance from back stage. He had the hulking, brooding slouch and the presence.
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...was in Redbelt. Not sure if he could pull off a role like Conan, but he's got that scary homicidal look to him that Conan needs to have.
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...is actually the socially accepted term here... but then, 99% of the people on here are guys. I'm just bringing a little sensitivity to the TB, friend. <P> Some of us have a one in FOUR chance of ACTUALLY being raped, is all. Just sayin'. <P> Now, can we stick to the real topic at hand? THEY ARE FUCKING WITH CONAN. <P> Get. On. Message.
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Misery loves company, and I've enjoyed bitching with you fine folk this eve.
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That is a bullshit comment. Give us evidence that we should have faith, or shut the fuck up and crawl back into your hole. <P> You lovest Conan not. You are less than.
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The suits really are a bunch of out-of-touch fucking morons. Well, they just guaranteed a flop. This will never work..."PC" Conan! How did that work out for The Honeymooners remake?
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I was TEN when I saw Conan The Barbarian. First time I saw boobies, or love making or graphic violence. I had no clue then, I just though that big muscly guy was fucking epic bad assness. I wanted to BE Conan. As I got older I read all the books and comics (new and old). Shit, as a matter of fact, this has been fun but I think I'm going to go watch Conan The Barbarian now.
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venom. Sorry. Not watching that. I'll just wait for this poison to eat my arm away from the inside out.
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Walking Tall was his best flick.
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Dwayne Johnson...Just like they don't know what to do with Vin Diesel.
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What kind of girl do you take me for? This is SERIOUS business, friend.
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....... aahaahahhahahaahahaa!!! I understand what you're saying in this context... but in general... aahaahaahaahahaahahaaa!!! (nothin' but good natured fun, though)
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It is definitely not a good week to be a Conan.
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... be going for counter-intuitive casting, à la Casino Royale. I always think of Arnold Schwarzenegger in connection with the character of Conan. Might be inspired rebranding. Only an opinion...
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and I was still impressed by the boobs and the F/X when the bitch gets all freaky and flys out the door.<p>The movie Kicks fuckin Ass! It makes me wanna puch animals in the face!
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just wait 2-3 more years and make a third movie with arnold to complete the trilogy: an old conan, now king of aquilonia, decides to go on a last adventure...
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I remember that!
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Dwayne Johnson is BRILLIANT. Brilliant comedic actor. VERY pleasing on the eyes... and ACTUALLY a nice guy. I am rooting for him 10000%. <P> I actually didn't mean my previous comment as a slam on him... hell, if they made Conan, with him starring, I would see it. In the theater. And I only get to see, like, three movies in the theater a year. <P> Doesn't make me wrong, though.
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...breasts.<P>That's what Conan would do.<P>Fuck it.
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...to the opening scene of the original. Best stares EVER.
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Conan the Destroyer is as bad as Conan the Barbarian is good. Epic pile of shit, that one.
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Even Crom likes boobs.
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I would love it. YOU would love it. It would be crazy-kick-ass. <P> But it's not going to happen. Please accept that and move on/
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Justin Timberlake.
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And he cast his hot little sperm bucket Rose McGowen in the title role. Is that project still alive?
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Although at my age, I shouldn't need it. It's just the cockeyed optimist in me. Jaka, now that you mention it, I do wish we could've seen King Conan. Dammit.
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...that he was not opposed to doing Conan The King. OK, I've located the DVD, off to watch Conan blood and boobs.
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is the opposite of<p>Nuking the Fridge<p>From now on when something is the best I will say,"This totally Punches my Camel!"<p>Then I'll Punch my clown(that means jerk off for those of you who don't know all the terms for pleasuring youself)<p>See you don't just learn about movies here. Its fun isn't it?
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But still hot.
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Conan without T&A is NOT Conan.
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looks, personality. it's like she can never relax.
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Why can't they scrap this disaster of a travesty, and give the people (me) what they want?!?!?!?!?
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but I couldn't stand Arnie's Conan movies. They were cheezy in that heavy handed could'nt grasp the true spirit of REH's vision.>P< My wish is someone with a true appreciation for REH's vision would take the reigns and do this right.
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that punches my camel
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But then, they stopped making really good B-movies years ago. <P> Except for Cranked, and Cranked 2. Those were FUCKING GREAT B-movies. <P> Jesus, where is Christopher Lambert when you really need him????
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So say we all!<p>Your in the zone tonight Scary;)
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now leaving "the zone"
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time for whiskey and Left 4 Dead 2. May Crom smite this project. If only Gilliam was attached to direct, there might be some hope. Ah well.
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Forgive the too-quick, wine-sapped fingers. The Pinot Noir has done it's (fucking WONDERFUL) work. <P> Hey, I stopped (almost) swearing, didn't I? Be grateful.
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this guy looks like the long haired dude in forgetting sarah marshal. And.... Michey Rourke? Are they going to redo his lips in CG so that they don't look filled with colligen? I don't think they had colligen in the days of Crom
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Raveneau Chablis, 1990 <P> Lafite 1982 <P> Krug 1990, in crystal flutes (and yes, I can smuggle them in) <P> or Chave Hermitage 1985. <P> I'm leaning towards the Krug, myself. Champagne with popcorn. <P> And please note, wiggers: I did NOT say Cristal. Cristal is HIGHLY overrated.
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Kiss your mother with that mouth? ;)
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I hear they take it up another notch and I like the sound of that. It's too bad the people who make these literary adaptations can't have R-rated fun like that with an actual character that people already want to see. No goddamn imagination.
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They're all really good and OVERPRICED wines. Not that they shouldn't be expensive, but these wines are STUPID expensive. <P> By choosing these wines, I reflect the enormous (speaking relativistically) amount of monet will be spent on the making of this movie, in relation to the amount of pleasure it will bring, especially to Conan fans. <P> I'm starting with a shot of vodka in the parking lot, since there will be no titties in this film. Anyone care to join me?
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...recap CRANK 1 with an old-school ATARI style video game animation to bring you up to speed.<P>Gotta love a movie that knows what it is and does it well.
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How did fans react back then (meaning all my Conan-loving pals of course. We were fans of the Marvel comics - Barbarian, King Conan and Savage Sword)?<p> Well, it wasn't with roaring approval. Arnold's hair was wrong and he didn't get many lines due to his accent. The screenplay didn't reflect the way Conan spoke in the books. The movie Conan wasn't particulary surly or clever as he was depicted by Howard and Roy Thomas. Rather he was portrayed as a bumpkin and a bit of a dullard. So that was inaccurate. Still, Arnold's physical presence was tremendously exciting. His physique was dead-on for Conan, very true to the comics and stories. And the production team did a good job with his costuming, especially with the final 2 action sequences. He even wore a helmet that closely resembled the one in the very first issue of Conan for Marvel.<p> Also, Arnold handled a broadsword convincingly; he looked like a formidiable swordsman. And he certainly looked menacing, as Conan should.<p> So, it wasn't a casting home run, but it was pretty damned good and everyone I knew absolutely loved the movie. I still do. I think it remains one of the best comic book/pulp story adaptations ever done, and Arnold was certainly a big part of that. If only they'd dyed his hair black.
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I have read extensive books on the works of REH, and you are correct, sir. There is NO mention of collagen in the Hyborean Age.
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Something to make you black out early and forget you saw anything. <p> The idea of popping a champagne bottle right as the lights go down in the theater is strangely appealing, though.
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Hollywood suits know FUCK about hair.
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Jan. 22, 2010, 12:14 a.m. CST
The quality of the movie shall be inversely proportional
by ScaryWaitress
to the quality of the wine. <P> So say we all.
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that's a straight to DVD sign right there
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A badass, NC-17 Thundarr the Barbarian movie. Slavering, feral Ookla the Mok and Princess Ariel with a Frazetta ass FTW!
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...I'm strictly an original CONAN short story and novella man myself...<P>[Talkbacker flexes his huge hardcover novel curling biceps]
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I go. <P> He is Conan, Cimmerian, he won't cry, so I cry for him.
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Heh...
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Yup, even when there are existing detailed desriptions of a character, they still have trouble nailing the dos.
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I think that kind of nails it. Outside of "Mad Max," which I think was decided last fall or winter, I hate pretty much everything 2010 has wrought. Fuck this noise.
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Dude has charisma but no action skills. Like Arnold when he did Conan. We want a huge, violent beast for Conan!
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Jan. 22, 2010, 12:59 a.m. CST
Christina Hendricks as Red Sonja? Yes, make it so!
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
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And he still doesn't look right. Look: Conan is a black-haired Germanic type, sun-bronzed and blue eyed. The books and stories, let alone the comic books (which are probably known to more people) make this very clear. I have no racial axe to grind here, and there are plenty of cases where I don't think race matters a damn (say, Nick Fury. Or the Karate Kid). But this one smells to high heaven. Cimmerians were an isolated hill people. How the hell do you get a mixed-race specimen like this? I grew up on Conan, and this just smells like casting by people completely unfamiliar with the material. I'm seriously dubious.
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this is a joke. right? wheres his muscles?? LOL. nice shorts.
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He gave up his credibility when he gave up any sort of commitment to making entertaining movies. Seriously, Planet 51? The Tooth Fairy?
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I was actually in pain from laughing so hard.
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So they can experience ultimate pain for having fucked everything up with casting and with a crap director.
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... To find a european actor with the right build and acting ability to fill the is fucking role already?? This guy looks like a Kushite not a Cimmerian. WTF? Do these assholes even understand the character theyre trying to make into a movie? Any director who would ok this guy shouldnt be anywhere near a Conan film.
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is this guy a samoan? or polynesian? is he gonna be in whiteface? isn't conan a european monster man? i hate my own stench.
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Isn't the actor's biological mother... GERMANIC-IRISH? His face has a Frazetta Jack Palance thing going, and the hair can be altered so that's not a concern. My criticism is that his physique needs to go into serious 300 style training.
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ARNOLD WILL ALWAYS BE CONAN! No one can top him in barbarian flicks. The rock failed, Kevin Sorbo tried and died. Crooooooooooooooooooooooooooom!
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I was initially going to scream fuck no!!! Loudly and repeatedly...but then took a deep breath and had a think. Arnold has defined in many peoples minds the image of what Conan should be, including the whole Austrian accent thing. If you go back to the source material Conan is 6 ft 2 and about 210 pounds, so 15 stone, not exactly super massive for someone of that height. He is described has having black hair, blue eyes and skin like copper from the sun. Now this guy's 6ft 5, so too tall against canon, whereas Arnold was too short and far too heavy. Copper skin, black hair check. Blue eyes can be solved with contacts. He will need to bulk up to achieve the one clear non-canon view of Conan, that he is completely musclebound like Arnold. This can be done with the right training. As for acting chops, err, well noone in their right mind can claim Arnold was a good actor when he did Conan. In fact its been argued his lack of English made what would have otherwise been piss poor acting look like some strange barbarian mentality. So even though part of me freaks out...and lets be honest, the picture you've picked of the new guy is truly terrible :).....you never know....it may, may just work...do people know what the script is like yet?
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the world really has gone down the toilet.
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a broadsword cleaving screaming Vanir faces , brain matter and gristle and skull chunks permeating the frigid northern air. But not in slow motion. We've all had enough of that, thank you very much.
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"Christina Hendricks" as Red Sonja?! I masturbate enough as it is.<p>She could do that role. She has done adventure-y on Firefly. Just needs some muscle tone.
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The signs are there.
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What are the producers of this Conan film thinking?????? Arnold is Lawrence Olivier in front of this botox-dude. This looks sooo bad!
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FUCK NBC!!!
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look at him. he's fucking awesome. and i say that as the biggest pussy eater amoungst you. <p>evidently none of you have seen StarGate atlantis. there's nothing wrong with this guy as Conan. Nothing! <p>spose you all want sam worthington huh? the face of all films 2010
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this is more exciting reading than some of the neo nazi sites I've run across. Ugly basement nerds foaming at the mouth about the end of fucking civilization because of a picture of a guy with dreads? He's not going to be like that for the movie I am sure. Conan is celtic, not germanic. Maybe this is payback for that fucked up cast for Earthsea...
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and do a direct sequel to the first conan, ignoring the second film completely. make it rated R and bloody as fuck. CONAN THE KING. fuck this guy, Conan is descended from norsemen, battle axe swinging vikings. not spear chucking africans. no offense to the brothers, but conan is a white dude.
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Didn't he fuck up Pathfinder? Or was that someone else? Be that as it may, the combination of this Momoa dude and Nispel doesn't help to raise my expectations.
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He would have rocked it!
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It's just like Sherlock Holmes. Guy fits the description to a T from the original writings, but because it doesn't fit the fanboy thinking of how they'd do it, it's awful. Just like Holmes, Trek, Transformers, and Avatar, look for this to be a big success despite everyone on the internet hating it.
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He is all warrior.<br> You should watch some clips of him as Ronon Dex on Atlantis.<br> The guy basically plays a hybrid of a Barbarian and Han Solo. <br> Last i saw of him he had gotten rid of the dreads... so he's not going to look jamaican anymore.
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Lets be honest this wont be released in cinemas straight to dvd mark my words. Crap casting decision though, he is way to dark and lean, he would be more suited for a slaine the barbarian movie
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I had no fucking clue! I am not being sarcastic or doing a joke here!
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Couldn't they get someone who doesn't look like a douchebag?
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Hollywood it's time you got off the blow enough is enough with this shit you keep pumping out year after year.
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....if he wants THIS guy as his 'Conan'!<P>I mean, WTF?, really.<P>He'd be better off playing that 'Farmville' shit with Yoko.
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Conan has to be a huge, bulky, muscled juggernaut; not a metro-rasta.
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Jan. 22, 2010, 5:30 a.m. CST
WITH THESE HEADLINES, HARRY SHOULD PLAY THE RIDDLER
by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL
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Jan. 22, 2010, 5:31 a.m. CST
UM...HE DOESn'T LOOK LIKE HE'S RELATED TO MICKEY ROURKE
by RICHARD_GERE_RAPED_MY_GERBIL
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Jan. 22, 2010, 5:35 a.m. CST
This talkback is far more fun then this movie will ever be
by AsimovLives
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Imagine Stephenson with hair and a giant sword.
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Some loser has to eat.
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Why in the world would they remake this?
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Jan. 22, 2010, 6:06 a.m. CST
I love the smell of raging fanboy in the morning
by Bruce of all Trades
Smells hilarious
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Conan is a Cimmerian a barbarian of the far north. One of his grandfathers, however, came from a southern tribe. <br> This right there tells you he is of mixed race.<br><br> Though several later authors have referred to Conan as "Germanic-looking", Howard imagined the Cimmerians as a proto-Celtic people with mostly black hair and blue or grey eyes. <br> So he is NOT supposed to look like a Nazi's wet dream. But like some mixture of a ruddy Scot and a darker Kurgan or steppe.<br><br> Although Conan is muscular, at 6'2" and 210 lbs Howard frequently compares his agility and way of moving to that of a panther (see for instance "Jewels of Gwahlur," "Beyond the Black River" or "Rogues in the House"). <br> So this says that he is barely 210 lbs. I say barely because Arnold looks like a monstrous beast in comparison. This description is more chiseled lean athlete than lumbering roid freak. <br><br> His skin is frequently characterized as bronzed from constant exposure to the sun.<br> Momoa when tanned does not look all that darker from a tanned Gerard Butler in 300. <br><br> In his younger years, he is often depicted wearing a light chain shirt and a horned helmet, though appearances vary with different artists.<br> This is key. In this movie we will probably be getting young Conan, not 40 year old Conan. Young Conan is supposed to be lithe and move like a panther. The Conan we saw in the Arnold movies would more easily pass as the older Conan who has put on muscle/weight as he grew older and his body matured.<br><br> He roamed throughout the Hyborian Age nations as a thief, outlaw, mercenary and pirate. As he grew older, he began commanding larger units of men and escalating his ambitions. <br> Kinda hard believing a hulking Arnold type as being some sort of thief or pirate. This was Conans early career in his twenties and early thirties... before he settled to be THE Conan you guys remember from the movies. <br><br> In other words this is one of those "Origin" movies.<br> Im sure Jason Momoa will pump much iron in the coming weeks. And if there is a sequel he will probably be that much more roided out by then.
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Jan. 22, 2010, 6:19 a.m. CST
Might i remind you guys that this movie is going to be directed.
by AsimovLives
... by the same guy who directed PATHFINDER? Pathfinder, you know? The movie that mananged to turn a story of Indians Vs Vikings into a unsufferable pile of shit. And now he's making Conan, for our sins.
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...in a fun kind of way but that doesn't mean this guy can be fucking Conan! I'm willing to give him a chance though but with deep reservations. And Titus Pullo could not be Conan, one of his companions maybe, but not the man himself. Is there ever going to be an Elric movie?
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...I looked at the picture of the guy, pictured him without the dreads and slightly (slightly!) more muscles and went "Yeah, looks like Howard's Conan". Just because Arnold was huge doesn't mean Conan was; he was a lithe thief in the books, not a pure warrior-brute.
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Yeah, Arnold was a brutal actor throughout the Conan and Sonja years, (not that he ever got much better), but at least he looked the part. This fucking guy not only looks the way he does but he has the acting chops of a Baywatch cast member. Fucking pathetic, Mickey stay away from this.
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As someone up thread said, he was in a bar fight awhile back<br> Someon broke a beer mug in his face and he had to get like 300 stitches in his face
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Almost 30 years ago, just about everyone said the same thing about Mr. Austrian Oak. WTF, a weight lifter, can't act, retard, total miscast was many of the comments in mags.
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oops..
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...but then again, Conan isn't exactly known for his conversational skills.
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Yeah, right. This movie's gonna suck.
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Just get Mickey Rourke in his newly roided glory. The man looks like a war-wounded savage beast but with a soul.
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casting, either. Just no FUCKING PRETTY BOYS.
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Jan. 22, 2010, 7:23 a.m. CST
Also, I think Arnold was an extremely rare find back then
by Bruce of all Trades
A musclebound brute of Germanic origins with enough charisma to impregnate 1200 women just by looking at them. You can't really get that anymore these days. Arnold was a product of 80's action movies and those days are long gone. The 80's belonged to gun toting musclebound badasses, the 90's belonged to simply gun toting badasses. And now the 00's and 10's belong to comic book superheroes. At least there are plenty of people who are finally doing something right with those characters.
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like a disgruntled caveman with a Bettie Page ape drape. Though, REH also had no idea what the hell he was talking about, basing the Cimmerians on the Celts. Celtic men wore their hair swept back and spiked, bleached with lime to white or reddish, with long moustaches or goatees (you can see this on Roman coins). Though it's forgivable, given the lack of precise scholarship at the time.
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They should get the guy who will be playing The Mountain that Rides. Whoever that may be. (Anybody know?) ... I can buy this Momo guy as Khal Drogo. He's got the hair, he's tall, he's in great shape, and he looks like a dude who'd be on a horse most of the time. But as CONAN? Go fuck your ass.
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on the "John Carter" Talkback. Not a bad choice actually, he has screen presence, a deep voice and has the look and the height. Stop panicking and at least wait until the trailer comes out before you give yourself a heart attack.
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Did she say that because she actually knew him...or is that just how she "imagined" he would smell? Please elaborate, big guy.
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In the same way a Mel Gibson-less Mad Max is dead to me.
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In a way Conan was quite the conversationalist, in that REH frequently discussed Conan's accomplishments as a (cunning) linguist. OK, sorry...couldn't help that one.<p>But REH's Conan did have a handle on *many* different languages, which is no easy feat for someone who didn't start learning them until he was in his late teens.<p>But Conan was always described as a VERY big dude. Big enough to punch another pirate (who challenged him) in the side of the head, resulting in a broken neck and crushed skull. The current choice would have to bulk up a *lot* to do that.
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SERIOUSLY? WTF? Well, fuck this movie up it's stupid fucking ass!
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...and I got no problem with it.
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..but, he was more or less a "proto-celt". Don't forget Howard's mythical hyborean age was set about 12,000 years ago, so all bets are off as far as dress, custom, etcetera.
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This will be utter crap. That is like casting Kevin Sorbo as Hercules - and trying to keep a straight face!
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In that photo? Yes, he does.<P> Should the man bulk the fuck up and look more like a man than some androgynous surfie duuuuuuuude, then MAYBE I'll give him the Benefit Of The Doubt. But so far, no sale. Fuckers.<P> And I really liked PATHFINDER as well. Fuck you, Nispel...
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Woody Allen. Great casting.
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And she was teh hotness in OUR MRS REYNOLDS on FIREFLY. The woman can ACT, for God's sake. Throw her in a gym for 18 months and give her the fucking role already!!
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Its amazing to me how so many people on a Conan TB seem to know so little about the character past the Milius film (which is one of my favorite films but had very little to do with the Conan of the stories). This guy, if he puts on a little bit of weight, with the right hair and costume and perfectly portray REH's Conan who is not a huge bodybuilder, or a celt, or fair skinned like a lot of people seem to think. He's a Cimmerian, they don't really exist. In the stories he's always described as tall, powerfully built, bronze skinned with sullen eyes, a square-cut black mane and having the battle prowess of a jungle cat. Momoa has A LOT more going for him than Arnold did for pure casting's sake. Milius crafted an awesome film that had SHADES of the Conan mythos but it was largely his own thing that he cooked up about nietzsche's philosophy of Strength where Conan is this Uber-Male. The Conan from the stories is a much more dynamic character. He's very outspoken, very badass and doesn't take shit from anyone (except their valuable shit, then he just takes it and leaves). I have my reservations about this movie too. I'm not thrilled witht he script, or Marcus Nispel but the casting of a 30 year old 6'4" ripped Hawaiin dude with green eyes and dreads is a step in the right direction. READ THE BOOKS!
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http://tinyurl.com/yblk2zl
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This dude is so incredibly wrong for this part it's not even funny. In one foul swoop they have just lost the entire existing Conan fan base with this pick. Fuckin really dissapointed with this casting. Will not be seeing my favorite barbarian on the big screen now.
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I've seen a lot of my favorite genre characters get good treatment on screen. Superman, Spiderman, Hulk, Sherlock. Hell, there's even a couple of decent Tarzan movies. But I've given up on Conan, who is my absolute favorite. WE got those two Arnold crap-fests in the '80's, a laughable TV show and an awful cartoon show. Now they want to cast some skinny Rasta wanna be as a northern european barbarian? I give up.
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This is complete and total Bull Shit - Stupid, stupid, stupid
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You know what's awesome? Reading an article in which Harry openly describes his wife as curled up on the couch squealing AND being a child. That's some amazing stuff.
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I agree with you. Conan isn't supposed to be anything but a white guy. Crom and Co. are Celtic. This is pandering to an ethnic consideration. Furthermore, as a black person I hate being pandered to as much as I hate true racism. Don't steal white concepts to try to appeal to me. Create new concepts that appeal to me. Don't give me "a black Captain America." Give me a black patriot super hero of our own invention. And get black people to make it.
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Sorry, regardless of the source material written over 50 years ago, you cant have some 6'5'' skinny ass dude following up the jaw dropping precedence of Conan set by Arnold. The Recent video games and comics written today show conan about 6'2" 250lbs of muscle. You can't just go back to skinny once greatness is established. There has to be someone green like Dwane Johnson and Arnold at the time was. Put great actors around him like the original conan did and it will work. This is the reason why I believe Thor will fail the actor does not look the part as portrayed in the comics and cartoons. You cant have some skinny ass dorks playing a Thunder God and Conan.
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as her counterpart. But I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt because barbarians aren't my cup of tea anyway.
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Why have you forsaken us?
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NO DICE. <p> NO PEACE.
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I have zero expectations that this can be good.
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Yes - fine, fine...but can the man ACT??
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Jan. 22, 2010, 8:49 a.m. CST
He's from Stargate: Atlantis, and he's not a bad choice at all
by chronicallydepressedlemming
Seriously, he's fine. That pic doesn't do justice to how huge he actually is. He's CHewbacca big, does lots of physical fight scenes and choreography and can pull off a more feral Conan. The film might suck, but I wouldn't blame this guy.
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Is say in the real world, you get tested for a job or a promotion. Say here lets see how you handle this small task before we give you a bigger one. And if you fail or put out bad work you usually don't get that promotion/bigger project. <P> I guess in Hollywoodland you can fail and still succeed at the same time. Unless Marcus Nispel left Pathfinder off of his resume when applying for the job of Conan the Barbarian director?
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That was another dreadlocked buff and tan warrior.
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what?? WHo?? What the fucK??
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They all look alike to me.
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They all look the same. <p> Wait, what? No, I didn't see you standing there behind the camera! No, I didn't mean it like *that*, don't run off!
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Jan. 22, 2010, 9:13 a.m. CST
The minute I read the words Christina Hendricks as Red Sonja
by Clavius
I jizzed in my pants. Dammit, even TYPING the words Christina Hendricks as Re....OOOOHHH....UFFFF....UGGGGGG........damn.
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I agree with that one.
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The producers have f'd the CONAN idea up before they've started filming. Conan is from Hyperborea's SCOTLAND not the West Indies.
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They Will Never Top Or Come Near The Beauty Of The Original
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! <P> God -beeeeeeep motherfu-beeeeep- holy -beeeeeeep- what the -beeeeep- god -beeeeep- why does no one -beeeeeeeeeep- listen to me mother -beep- -beeeeeeep beeeep- -beeeeeeep- Jesu-beeeeeeep -beeeeeeeep- am I the only one who -beeeeep- listens when I -beeeeeeeeep- TALK????!?!??!?!?! WHO THE EVER-LIVING -BEEEEEEEP- thought this was APPROPRIATE???????
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This doesn't look good at all. Oh well lets hope for Solomon Kane...
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That would make about as much sense.
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...perhaps.
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Howards first story involving Conan is one of his many "primal-racial memory" stories which suggests celtic or pre-celtic heritage. But that being said; he also describes him as being tall and bronzen with black hair and blue eyes. That's this guy to a tee. He only needs to bulk up a bit. That that many people are upset that the guy happens to be part-hawaiian is pretty disturbing; although not at all suprising.
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Do you notice a suspicious lack of any review for a certain key movie? <P> I hope we get 3-4 takes on Tooth Fairy though!
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SHE'S DEAD!!! AWWW FUCK YES!
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The more I like it. REH didn't have Conan as a giant, muscle bound dude. Rather he was always described in terms of jungle cats, "lithe as a panther" "swift as a cheetah" comes to mind. He was big, but certainly not the biggest dude out there. He was mostly a thief, archer and later on pirate. He's got the dark skin, the gravely voice, sullen eyes, seems very Conan to me. The other stuff is character based, his very high intelligence level, his gift for languages, his ability to make men want to be commanded by him (charisma) can't really be told from an old picture.
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My favorite Hollywood paranoiac-reactionary. God bless him.
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...well, that's the gayest definition of "charisma" I've ever heard.
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Do tell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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... he would make an excelent Conan. He would still do, with enough make up to make him youngish. And not only is he build like an ox (and taller then Arnold ever was), he's a very fine actor. Anybody who saw rome knows he can do brodding like nobody else. A giant with acting chops with shakespearian theater training.
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...through one of her girl magazines last night and just casually reads that:<P>"I've got a little bit of a girl crush on Zooey Deschanel..."<P> -Christina Hendricks
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...ALLURE magazine. Page 140. February 2010
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I have been planing to buy that DVD for years. It has to be this year. And i heard it's pretty good. The book from which it's based, "He Who Walked Alone", is nigh on impossible to get, though. Been out of print for years. Maybe you americans can get lucky with your local library.
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...comrades I am too lazy to read the above and that photo is disturbing, beach bum pretty boy as CONAN- WTF? Who is the director and studio behind this project? I would like to question their choice of leading man, based on that photo- however I am hoping that they have had screen tests in costume etc and he is right for the part but would like to check their credentials too...
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Jan. 22, 2010, 10:07 a.m. CST
The bitch demographic is destroying genre films now!
by JayLenoTookMyJob
First, news of "Twilighter-Man", now this. Can't you females stick to lame rom-coms starring Jennifer Lopez and not gay up our fantasy and sci-fi?
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...look up what it's called. REH was a crazy guy...sort of the van Gogh of pulp fiction...he shot himself when his mom died (?!?).
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Jan. 22, 2010, 10:09 a.m. CST
How about that big german guy from INGLORIOUS BASTERDS?
by AsimovLives
The only gemrna of the group, the one who had a speciality in killing SS officers and the Basterds rescued him from jail? A really big guy, teutonic looking, and he was pretty good in the movie, great screen presence. And in Germany he's considered a pretty good and respected actor. Why not him as Conan as well? Really, are the casting people in Hollywood so beret of imagination and wisdom this days?
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That is great news. Zooeymania is reaching pandemic proportions. The CDC is aware of the matter, and encourages people to spread it around as much as possible.
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If the other dude problem is that he can't get good and cheap wines, he can always chose portuguese, right?
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...can you imagine Zooey nestled down between Christina Hendrick's giant buttery breasts?<P>I know you like them all lanky like a greyhound, but I want you to close your eyes and picture that for a moment...
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118163/ <P> With Vincent D'Onofrio as Robert E. 'Bob' Howard and Renée Zellweger in one of her first roles. <P> She said that she learned a lot from Vinnie D'O from that movie.....she's a fucking liar, that or she didn't follow through with what he taught her.
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You killed my MUDDAH!
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And the best bet of the safe bet is to get Alentejo Wine. Foreigners usually love it best, with good reason.
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We get an interview with the director but so far not one review for a religious action film that AICN has covered a lot of, it seems. Guess they didn't get an invite. Which means they won't post reviews by the regular folk either, I bet.
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Yeah it wasn't screened for Critics, so they won't see it.
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They fucking killed that awesome character off way too early.
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For any of the films opening today, except for one by Capone on the new Harrison Ford flick. Guess everyone's just too busy at Sundance?
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Theres the film festival excuse!
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Jan. 22, 2010, 10:30 a.m. CST
That's what happens when you hire Marcus fuckin Nispel.
by Knuckleduster
Bring back Brett Ratner! <p> Can't believe I just said that...
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Really don't want these TWILIGHT-ERS branching out too much, please.
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I imagine Zooey would give those butter balls the motorboating of Christina's life. That goes without saying. Now ... my question is, is Mrs. Flicka privy to your Zooey love, and perhaps even party to it?
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Exactly. I'm pretty curious about that movie. I'm going to buy it sight unseen.
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Yeah, i agree, he was killed too soon. But as long he was onscreen, he was pure gold. Can't think of a better guy fit to play Conan. Him or Ray Stevenson.
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Two wrongs to not make a right, dude. Just because Nispel is shit doesn't mean Ratner is any better.
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"...well, that's the gayest definition of "charisma" I've ever heard." well you find gay where you look for it. Maybe you should read Conan the Buccaneer.
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Dude has a certain appeal,I guess... A little too pretty still but maybe if he bulked up he could pull it off. When I was a kid the original movies came out so in my mind Conan will always be barbarian era Schwarzenegger for better or worse (sorry Franzetta). Seriously though they were considering that pretty boy from Supernatural and some dillweed from Twilight for the role, soooo I'll take Baywatch Hawaii guy over those effeminates.
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Hugo Stiglitz. The only one whom we were given a backstory for, and thus was the most interesting character in the whole group.
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Has anyone used that one yet?
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... but from what i have, seems from REH's sparce descriptions of Conana, even Arnold was too small for the character. One of the most common words that REH uses to describe Conan is "giant". REH really ment for Conan to be a really big guy. In most storie, he's always the tallest guy around, and the most well build. And he's always, always, the strongest person in the stories. REH created an almost impossible character in that not only he is as big as an ox, he's quick as a panther. Physically, Conan is the top a human could ever aspire to be. So, people trying to justify that above actro's casting as that Conan is described as "lith", he's lith in the sens eof him being very agille and fast, not that he's of a smaller frame then Arnold. In fact, Arnold is smaller then how Conan was described in REH's stories. Think about that.<br><br>Those two actors i mentioend above, the german basterd guy and Ray Stevenson, both are taller then Arnold. Give them even more muscles then they already hav,e and they would make an even more imponent Conan then Arnold was.<br><br>But the final deal-maker or deal-breaker is the story and the kills of the filmmkaers. And frankly, no matter how good the casting for this movie might be, the filmmakers give me absolutly no confidence whatsoever.
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I wont disagree with you on that, that's for sure!
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... to see the love not only for REH's stories, but for Milius movie as well. Sometimes it's heart-warming to read the talkbacks.
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I rewatched Red Dawn the other day, and man what a bad ending that one was.
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The germna basterd i was talking about. And belive it or not, he's one year OLDER then Ray Stevenson. I jus tnamed two mid-40s guys as the best option to play Conan. i guess this is a real testement for the lack of options among the younger actors. Which is quite sad. Or it's a testement to the stupidity that is reigning among casting in Hollywood that they are only getting this anoying soul-less charisma-free HIMBOS for movies and TV, at the expense of every other kind of men type.
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I'm a left-winger guys. Which, as an european, it mans for you americans that i0m what you would consider a extreme-left-winger (but that's only because politically there's only right-wing in america, extreme and moderate). But my point is, i'm left-winger and i really like Red Dawn. I think the movie has been under-rated. And the reactions agaisnt the movie have been pretty knee-jerking. The way i see the movie, it's as if Milius had brough the vietnam War to the USA, and the movie shows why the vietnamits fought with such determination against the americans. But in the movie, the vietcong are the americans. I see the movie as a tale to explain why it's futille to invade foreigner countries, and used an invasion of the USA to say "this is how we would do if we got invaded, and this is how others react when we invade".<br><br>And beside,s tha,t the action is pretty sweet, and Milius showed a great attention to detail about proper military procedual. but best i all, i love how milius didn't demonized the invaders and gave them ambiguity, shades of honour and humanity. Milius just cannot write an simplistic uninteresting character, even if it's supposed for us to hate him.<br><br>My only problem with the movie's ending is the final voice-over, it's kinda a desperate atempt to lght things up on a movie which shows the soul-destruction that brings even if you are fighting a good fight. In fact, i love the ending because of how sophisticated, adult and smart it is.
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just had his dreams crushed. I guess all that time spent in childhood pumping iron incessantly with the expectation that he would become the next Arnold really came to fruition.
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I'm confused. Where in the Conan novels is Conan described as looking like Whoopie Goldberg?
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...I think either of us would bounce on Christina in a heartbeat.<P>Watching movies with Mrs. Flicka is a complicated and dirty tango since we both have multiple celluloid infidelities...with the right cast even the most chaste of movies is like porn around here...
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this looks like shit already. I really liked the idea of older King Conan having to deal with a bastard child raised to fight him
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Its just the ending feels like such a copout. The main characters die and then a voiceover pops up and is like "Eventually we won the war," without there being any evidence that the Wolverines helped in that victory. <p> And what I thought was the biggest mistake is that the Wolverines only get a plaque on a rock. After making such a big deal of showing a statue of the Rough Riders at the beginning of the movie, they should have ended with a statue of the victorious Wolverines standing upon that peak.
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The disturbing life-story of that kid not only breaks my heart but make me sick to my stomach. The first time i saw him, i wanted to puke! What his parents did to him is unnatural!!
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...Another casting choice that seems to make no logical sense! If you were going for a take on the Conan early years which it seems like what they are aiming at casting this guy then they would have been better off looking at someone like Alexander Skarsgård got the norse/european look would need alot of beefing up but it would be more beliveable!
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Yeah, the voice over is too much on the noze. However, the single small plague is actually very accurate. It shows that Milius actually visited places where such memorieals exist. And they don't have big statues celebrating this type of fightrs, they are always small plagues. What you forget is that the time of building big statues to celebrate "heroes" was the 19th century, or in dictatorships who used the deeds of fighters to promote their regime. In democratic countries, like in Europe, mostly things are done with far more sobriety. And i think it's the right thing to do. As bad as it is to forget the sacrifices of fighters, it's as bad exploit their efforts for the sake of political advantages by build big statues whose only function is to promote the parties and/or goverments which "honoured" them.
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...one of the least self-conscious and Freudian writers you will ever read...that's one of the things I like about him. Whether it be sex, race, violence, whatever, his stories are practically bursting with poorly disguised desire and disgust.
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No one cares if you found a lonely cow or baked an imaginary cake. I usually just delete people that play/post that garbage.
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If you're going to open on a statue of a freedom fighter, I think you better end on a statue of a freedom fighter.
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Thats the way Hollywood is. This guy looks like a tool! Im 6'2 240lbs. Let me do a cycle of D-bol and about a ton of test and ill do the fucking movie!! Old school action is dead, other than Sly's Rambo.
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I have an old Conan paperback which reveals that Conan's homeland of Cimmeria is actually positioned where Northern England and Scotland now exist. Check out the link below to see a Hyborian world map with a map of Europe superimposed over it: http://hyboria.xoth.net/maps/original.gif So, maybe Butler isn't such a bad suggestion to play Conan...
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Proper link: http://hyboria.xoth.net/maps/original.gif
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Here's a more appropriate picture though I'm almost positive he's was even "bigger" in other Atlantis episodes. He could easily bulk up to Arnolds level... ---> http://scifiandtvtalk.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/jason1.jpg AND http://stargateatlantistvshow.wetpaint.com/page/Why+we+love+Ronon+Dex
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Can Mario Van Peebles play Thulsa Doom? Ken Jeong as Subotai? Snookie as Valeria?
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They will get anywhere CLOSE to the awesomeness that is the score to the original. <P> Fuck pretty much all scores now a days suck. The cloest one to becoming classic (outside of Clint Mansell) would be the new Batman, but compared to the original it blows.
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Harry Potter managed to make a classic score (ummm look who created it though?), but its kind of gay.
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This dude looks nothing like what the part demands. Hes lean when he should be inhumanely MUSCULAR. Not to mention he looks like a friggin Somoan, not a barbarian. Who the F made this casting mistake?
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wow he was hard as fuck...and fuck this lame casting
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Jan. 22, 2010, 11:52 a.m. CST
...Conan doesn't have to be bodybuilder big, Ideally he...
by FlickaPoo
...would be superhumanly ass kickingly big. The muscles shouldn't bee too symmetrical and pretty...heavy emphasis on the muscle groups that make you a killing machine.
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hollywood pussifing one of the meanest dirtiest muthafuckas ever.
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Jan. 22, 2010, 11:54 a.m. CST
he seriously needs to bulk up looking at those pics
by Waka_Flocka_Flame
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...the gray skies and rocky hills of Cimmeria represented Scotland.
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Halloween. Ended up drinking about seven Sierria Nevada Pale Ales in that time frame...good times
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Look, I may not have seen this guy in anything, but from everyone who has that I know, they all tell me he's at least a good actor. And besides that, the only gripe you could have for his physical appearance other than his face is his size, and the guy's pretty freaking tall. 6'2 is good enough for Conan in my books. Don't complain about silly things like he's not muscly enough. The guy's in pretty good shape. Maybe not as much as Ahnuld was back when he played the role, but need I remind you that Christian Bale was a STICK in The Machinist, but then he bulked up huge later for Batman Begins? As for his looks, I don't see what's wrong with it. They can just shave his beard, give him a good enough hairdo, and he'll look great for the role. Seriously, I knew most AICN talkbackers (hell, most of all talkbackers in the whole internet, for that fact) were hateful douchebags, but I'm starting to see it's even worse than I thought.
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Wow they're really scraping the bottom of the barrel for this one. He's a terrible actor and obviously doesn't look right at all. He looks like Conan's bitch.
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Not men, not women, not beasts. This you can trust. Sound wisdom from Conan's dad.
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You got a great woman there. Please thank her on my behalf for the Zooey alert!
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As Conan??? ROFLMAO What a horrible pick!!!!
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at least I'll have my gladiator fix with Spartacus: Blood and Sand... I saw the first Ep last night... enjoyed it... loved the fights... Andy as Spartacus... he nailed it.
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I believe that Til Schwieger is only around 5'9 or 5'10. Not sure why you think he is so massive.
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ARNOLD IS CONAN but CONAN IS NOT ARNOLD, a lot of the cons people are citing are actually pros. This guy could totally work. Conan is described as a "giant" that doesn't mean bigger than Arnold, REH is also known for his hyperbole. It is constantly remarked that Conan is an expert climber and that his people (who live on hills) are great climbers unlike city dwellers. In Barbarian Subotai remarks that Conan is "too big to be a theif", but in the books he is able to burgle to his hearts content because he is so skilled a climber and no one can hang with him. He has to come off as strong and in great shape, not HUGE like Arnold was. Momoa is taller than hell, he's got a big frame, while I do agree that he should bulk up this guy has Conan written all over him, some of you just have Arnold on the brain. Conan the Barbarian makes up like 1% of Conan lore as a whole, check out the comics and original stories. There is a wealth of source material that suggest (on paper) Momoa works very nicely. We'll have to wait and see how the rest of the production plays out, movie could suck royally but this is good news to me. They are casting an actor to play Conan (a character who has been around for over 70 years), not Arnold.
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This guy looks more like a Barry Smith Conan (long and lean), while Arnold was more the Frazetta/John Buscema Conan.<p>Regardless, Arnold got there first and so in my mind, that's what a live action Conan should look like.<p>Also, there was something so great about the low-tech style they used on Conan back in '82 with it's miniatures and matte paintings..*sigh* Expect loads of slick cgi in this one.<p>R.I.P Emilion Ruiz Del Rio.
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That's worse news than the casting decision. I dunno who this guy is and I've never seen him act, so I was reserving judgement on that... but the director of fucking Pathfinder? That's one of those movies only a few talkbackers liked. What an awful movie. The only thing worse was Outlander. The only good modern viking movie is 13th Warrior.
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but CG faces irritate me.
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...to see one the radical REH stories onscreen? Something like The People of the Black Circle, or The Treasure of Tranicos (The Black Stranger).<p>Meh...it'll *never* happen. I'll keep dreamin'...
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By Crom!
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Oh yeah... I expected it... after all... it is Rome. The final fight when Spartacus snaps in the arena... good stuff.
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The idiot fan-boys who think you need a body-builder to play a savage warrior are nuts. You need an actor. Jason is a damn good one. He's perfect for Conan.
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I've waited all my life for this moment. DVR set.
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Go kill yourself now.
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Ditto on that one. Someone should do some digging on that one--I need to know if it's worth putting my cash down on getting "Starz" network or not.
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Well, in Tarantino's movie he looks huge. And a young man german only being 5'10?? I'm 5'10 but i'm portuguese, that's still considered medium-tall, but traditionally portuguese people are on the short side. Til, to be only 5'10, he would be a rarity among germans. Nah, i don't buy it. Or else Tarantino made him look gigantic in his movie.
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This movie is probably going to be terrible. And I've never seen this guy in anything so I can't speak for him as an actor. Though I have to admit his pedigree, which includes both 'Baywatch' and a 'Stargate' series doesn't give me much faith in his craft. But his appearance really shouldn't be causing such an uproar. Howard said Conan was supposed to be 6'2 and weigh 210lbs. He looks like he falls right in that range. Howard also set his tale in an era "...between the years when the oceans drank Atlantis and the gleaming cities, and the years of the rise of the Sons of Aryas..." That means Conan was not a Germanic/Aryan type, as those tribes had not yet rose to prominence in his era. Furthermore, while Conan was supposed ro be a proto-Celtic barbarian of the north country he was also a descendant of displaced Atlanteans (most legends of Atlantis claim all common races were present on the continent and Egypt, an African civilization was it's earliest outpost) and one of his grandfathers was said to come from the tribes of the south. Additionally, Howard alluded that his Cimmerians were the ancestors of the historical Cimmerians, a central Asian barbarian race linked to the Scythians which likely included a range of ethnic types including Iranian, Asian and European-looking people. In short, who gives a fuck if this Hawaiian/Irish/German guy is a little "bronze" and not-quite-as-muscly compared to the body-building Austrian who played Conan in the '80s? Could he put some more muscle on? Sure. But he's not smashing Howard's racial mold at all.
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When he (Conan) was 15. I'm not holding out much hope for this movie. At all.
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In one of his Solomon Kane stories, Howard plainly describes the Atlanteans as a brown-skinned people. This gets confusing since he uses the names of real places and peoples--but this guy's image is perfectly consistent with REH'S vision. Too many of you are hung up on the race thing.
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...hyperbole...you are exactly right.<P> I can't remember which story, but Conan is described as looking about like that at sixteen or so...
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REH never said that his Conan looked like a kushite.
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This will be the most common injoke about the people in the know when this movie came out with this actor in the lead.
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Jan. 22, 2010, 1:20 p.m. CST
IF HARRY WERE A CANDLE IT WOULD SMELL LIKE A COMBINATION OF PISS
by thecomedian666
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Please, don't give that pseudo-ethnic PC nonsense. You know, how about next time they make a blade movie, they cast a white guy in the role, hem? Why should that eve4r5 matter? Better, next time they make a Shaft movie, let's cast a white or an asian. Who would care for the race of the actor who plays Shaft, hem?
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... and fuck race considerations.
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If i remember correctly, when Conan reached maturity age (which for Cimmerians was 15), he was already bigger then most adults. In a people which was made of very big men. There's a story where Conan tells that when still a teen he mannaged to strangle a wild bull.
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(from wikipedia) In a letter to P. Schuyler Miller and John D. Clark in 1936 only three months before Howard's death, Conan is described as standing 6 feet and weighing 180 pounds when he takes part in an attack on Venarium only 15 years old, though being far from fully grown.
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It's not like they cast Mr.T. This is a guy who basically fits the visual mold and description of the character--as long as he looks the part why should it really matter? If you need to check the pedigree and family tree of every actor for "racial impurities",you may have a problem.
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This guy = dancing with the Stars. <P> okay, to be fair, i know nothing of this guy's acting prowess, but he'd better have some serious chops if he wants people to take him seriously as Conan. He has some huge Yak skin boots to fill.
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What the fuck is this? Conan is a beast, not a surfer dude... Just hire Vin already. Jesus.
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IMDB has him listed at 5'10, I think QT might of just pulled a fast one on you.
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She wasn't naked in the first episode... but many people don't realize.. you can watch it online right now... <br> http://www.starz.com/originals/spartacus/screeningroom/Pages/screeningRoom.aspx#/episode-101
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This Jason fella is 6'5", 210 lbs. Which seems too tall and lean to me. <P> but what the fuck do I know?
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And Classic. I was listening to some tracks while I was at the gym. Beautiful, haunting, thunderous, and pulse-pounding. Its pretty much a perfect score.
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..but the '81 "Conan: The Barbarian" was a fantastic film. No it's not perfect, and some of the voive overs lack, but it is still to this day, one of my ALL TIME favorite films. the action, cinematography, sword play, etc. for a 15 year old fanboy at the time, that movie came thru on all fronts.
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Well, i guess Tarantino made everybody in his latest movie look like giants. Everybody looks very tall in that movie.
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soundtrack... if you can keep the scope and "realism" to a new movie, I will say let's go with it. But I get an MTV presents vibe from this guy, got a feeling it will be as bad as Scorpion King or any one of the USA series crap they had, like Hercules and the like. Kinda like Prince of Persia looks like shit to me also, just done in a studio backlot with WAY TOO MUCH CGI...
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He's just not as fearsome. Body, hair, height, skintone, yes. But he looks like a fucking Hawaiian Tropic model.
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He's not *white* enough? He's not white enough to play a character from a country that doesn't exist? A country that doesn't exist, created for a non-visual medium?(Okay, he's not white enough to have Mickey Rourke as a dad unless his mother was from a different ethnic group, but you fix problems like that by changing the casting on the secondary characters not the protagonist.) You're right, he looks nothing like Arnold Schwarzenegger. But so what? Robert E. Howard never saw Schwarzenegger in his life. He's not big enough? He's SIX FOUR. Two inches taller than Arnie. If you mean less bulked up then the Terminator in his prime... true, but true of any human being before the invention of modern weight-lifting and steroids - which Conan is intended to be. And you're crazy if you think he's going to be wearing dreads on set, not that he even has dreads anymore. The real test will be whether or not he can play the role convincingly onscreen - which is a totally different thing from whether or not he lives up to your Germanic dreams.
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You PC guys are always troubled when you get called upon your nonsense. You can't find a more anti-racism guy in here then me. but that doesn'ty mean i'm going to buy PC bulslhit for the sake of a bad casting of a wrong actor for the role. And yes, the white guy to play Shaft is incredibly apt as a joke about the decision to cast this guy as Conan. Conan has a pretty specific description to many of his pysical attributes, which describe him as celtic. The dude above looks like a kushite from REH's universe. To go on bulslhit about how he looks so like the envision of REH for conan is bullshit. If you are going tod efend this casting choice, use other, more grounded argumetn,s like your believe he's a good actor or whatever. But he certainly doesn't look the part. He would need extensive full body make up to even remotly resemble the descriptions of conan, starting with the pale completion, the black hair, the blue steel eyes. The "bronze" skin colour he gets is only later when he ventures into the teritories of Kush and gets sun tanned. but a white sun tanned guy doesn't look like a half-samonoean like the actor chosed looks.<br><br>You are not being anti-racist if you are advertizing and supporting a wrong type guy for a role. You are being foolish. Deal with it.
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In his competition prime ist the closest physical match I've ever seen to the Frazetta Conan, in terms of height, frame, muscle shape, sinister face. Any actors who even come close to the wrestler?
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Jan. 22, 2010, 1:49 p.m. CST
Asimov...I think you're on the losing side of an argument...
by D.Vader
Yet again.
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I hope I am wrong, but this guy does not look big enough to be Conan. Conan is not a pretty boy, he is deadly warrior. What worked with Schwarzenegger’s portrayal of Conan is that he was very muscular yet natural. When a guy from the Hyborian Age looks like he has been working out at a gym with a perfectly chiseled physique, it can take you out of the movie. Schwarzenegger toned down to make himself look like a guy who got muscular from hard work. In addition, Schwarzenegger was a great physical actor. It was not just the way he looked but the way he moved. Think of him walking down the stairs with war paint covering his body and holding that huge sword moving with deadly grace. All stood in awe. Conan is a total bad ass, and Schwarzenegger sold it. Big shoes to fill, I hope they know what they are doing.
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... is one of my all times favorite score. a score that does exactly what a score should do, help the movie instead of being a distraction, while at the same time delivering amazing unforgetable compositions. I still can't believe that Pouledoris is no longer with us.<br><br>And today, there's nobody in Hollywood, other then Elliot Goldenthal, that can even remotly match his talent. The only other thing which had a score that could seat side by side with Pouledori's Coana score and not shame itself by the comparison is the score they made for the game AGE OF CONAN: HYBORIAN ADVENTURES.
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...album with the San Francisco Symphony. <P>That will make me feel better.
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Conan is an incredibly hard character to cast EXACTLY as the author wrote him. I have no problem with someone who has darker skin. After all, he's supposed to be tanned by the sun, isn't he? <p> But then, I don't think you were really crapping on this guy bc of his skin color in the first place. A misunderstanding, perhaps.
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What losing side? That this actor is wrong for the part? Quite the contrary, i'm on the winning side.
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I'm not a "pc" guy (what does that even mean?) I'm just a fan of the source material--in which Conan's physical description is pretty close to that of this Mamoa guy. Going back to your "Shaft" reference--this would be more like casting The Rock or some bi-racial actor as in the role, since Mamoa is actually half-white anyway. And no, he wouldn't be anything like a Kushite, Kushites are blacks or "Ethiopians" in the Howard universe. He could perhaps pass for Stygian, though. Your flat out wrong about the skin thing though--Howards original stories describe him as bronzed on several occasions, long before his stint as "Amra" the lion of the Kushites. At face value, this guy's fine. Had they cast a Hawaiian who doesn't look the part, like Wayne Newton or something for instance--I'd be just as pissed as you apparently are.
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Have you ever seen a northern european person tanned? They don't look like polinesians, do they? The "but Conan had tanned skin in the Kush setting stories" argument is just bullshit. I'd admired some are even giving a thought about it.
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Barry Windsor Smith was the artist for Marvel's comics in the 1970's and he drew Conan as a sinewy youth. Pretty much like this dude. If the film honours R E Howard's stories and is gory as fuck then I'm ok with the casting.
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Also my favorite score of all time. Every track is perfection.
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...this guy has the presence or the chops.<P>Maybe I'll be surprised...but I don't think so.
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I agree with you: the soundtrack to Conan The Barbarian is utterly brilliant.
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...was hot.
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Tell, in all complete honesty, with your hand overy your heart and swear on your mother's soul, that if you look at the photo of the actor abov,e your very first thought is "tanned celt". In all honesty, is that the first thing that comes to your mind when you see him? Really, tell me. Be honest.
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...it has that old timey, big canvas, action type feel to it.<P>It's not Conan, but you have to take what you can get these days.
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...standpoint, I don't think this guy can do it. It's just a feeling, I would love to see Dwayne Johnson in the role, or maybe even Michael Jai White. BUT i've been proven wrong before. Favreau did it with Ironman, maybe this guy will too. It's just I doubt it. I have no preferences for black, white, samoan, japanese, american or what have you. What I do WANT, is a solid, frank and true performance in my films, as well as STORY... don't fuckin' mail in your acting and I don't want some dueschebag hack coming up with a fourth rate story. SUPRISE US ALL. Favreau did, Nolan did.... who's next.??
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Indeed. Though my favorite score is Vangelis' Blade Runner, i have to say, every single music composed for Conan The Barbarian is pure brillance. It's one of the bhest marriages of music to images i ever seen in a movie. And the music does soemthing that rarely today scores do: they help tell the story. The movie makes perfectly clear what the mood of the scene and what is the mind of the characters are, while not being neither manipulative or on the nose. And it does that while at the same time delivers beautiful compositions. You could play that score by an orquestra on a live audience and it would work as an brillant symphonic work. I can't give a better praise to that score then that. A score that both works IN the movie AND OUT.<br><br>Man, all this talk makes me want to re-watch Milius's CONAN THE BARBARIAN again.
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Certainly it will not be Nispel (he who made Pathfinder).
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While I agree that this guy doesn't look like Conan. Swatnegger isn't the end all be all definitive Conan. I love Conan the Barbarian(and I get a good laugh out of the sequel) but they were not hugely based on the REH Conan stories.
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Oh yeah, man, Conana's mother was indeed very hot. Possibly the best looking woman in the movie, filled with extremely lovely ladies. The actress was spanish, actually, ence the reason she had no speaking lines, her english, if she could speak it, would had been extremely accented. Even today the vast majority of the spanish people don't know english much. They are so proud of their own language and culture, they feel little need to learn other languages.
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...me in. I first saw it as a little kid...years went by before I saw it again...the only thing I could clearly remember was the music and that early scene of the riders in the snow on the way to attack Conan's village. <P>That music came to represent all high drama, tragedy, and action in my little brain and imagination...
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I consider myself a gentleman, so I'll give you a perfectly honest answer--I would probably think he was mediterranean or middle-eastern from that picture. However, as a life-long fan of "Conan" in multiple mediums, he's very close to depictions of the character that I've seen in comics, and if I were to go through a checklist of characteristics described by the author--he pretty much matches them. We tend to forget on here that the ethnic backgrounds given our characters in literature aren't always in tandem with the physical descriptions given to these characters. Also, if you ever care do any research on the Celts, you'd know that they occupied most of Europe from the British Isles to modern day Greece and Spain at one time, so I'm certain there was a bit of genetic diversity even within that group.
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probably one of the whitest characters in literature, especially if you factor in REH's views on the subject. This guy is sooooo wrong on so many levels. These hacks don't give a shit about source material, they have no souls, and I hope they loose their ass with this movie.
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Fucking beast. You're right, he'd be a good fit. If Conan was around today, he'd be able to carry a fridge up 8 flights of stairs too. Crom laughs at elevators.
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...were when he'd face off against some foe, give the guy that wild eyed glare past his sword, and then those Poledorious drums kick in... one of the best "oh shit, it's on!" moments in all of 80's moviedom. <p> Contemplate THIS upon the tree of woe!
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The bit where he fights Spinal Tap in the caves is epic.
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I think Milius' movie is a great destilation of many things found in Conan's stories. Though Milius hismelf admits in the audio comentar,y that he also put some Krull elements in the movie, the most notorious being Thulsa Doom himself which was a Krull villain, an how he made James Earl Jones looks in the movie, a black man with very straight hair and very blue eyes, to give the idea of a last man from a dead race of the past. And Milius himself admits that the youth of Conan was not spent pushing a grain wheel as slave, but as a free woodman in the high-lands of Cimmeria. But Milius changes and adds work. They are all designed to make a specific point to the tale. And milius, the clever and literate storyteller he is, weaves it into a coherent story that alway obeys it's own logic. and more important, he even mananged to put thought provoking themes into a tale of blood and sword and magic.
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Do the Milius/Swarzenegger script only with a real damn actor! I would see that movie three times over. I will NEVER pay to see this metrosexual half fag pretend to be Conan.
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is the snapshot of Harry's homelife.
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Only his moon and stars can mess with him. This dude is Khal Drogo for you losers who do not read anything but shitty $4 comic books. Hopefully we will see the HBO series of ASOIAF. As Conan? Who knows. Conan the Barbarian is all the Conan I will ever need. One of the best movies ever made.
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Better than shitty $5 comic books.
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Thank you for your honest answer. As such, you just told me that from that pic, the gy looks like a kushite from RHE's stories. Thus ended the argument. The actor chosen is just wrong, period. The fact he's some HIMBO heart-robber only makes things worst. The man is wrong on all levels. The idiots who come up with him as a possible Conan and took the idea seriously should get fired. This is not about beign PC and not racist, this is about knowing you subject you are making your movie about, and FUCKING COMMON SENSE!
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Not the worst idea i heard about all this subject, to tell you the truth. It could even work. Hell, Rourke is the right ethnicity to begin with. And he's a damn good actor.
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My first experience with it was as a reorchestrated track on the Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time commercials on tv. I LOVED those spots and thought the music was so epic. Then, I saw Conan, watched that attack on his village in the opening and thought "My god this awesome music sounds familiar...."
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Featuring Riders of Doom: <p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMSbwLvDMEg
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Is that you'll only be happy if Conan is portrayed by a whiter guy.
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Indeed. CONAN THE BARBARIAN is a text book example of how a good score can elevate a movie into mythical proportions. In my mind, i can't seperate the movie from the score. A match made in heaven.<br><br>And there is no such thing as too much love for Conan's score.
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I don't believe that Basil Paledoris actually wrote any music. Conan the Barbarian is a documentary and those were the sounds that were occuring naturally on location.
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By a guy that looks the part. And looking the part in a movie is IMPERATIVE. The above guy in the photo doesn't definatly look the part. But as a kushite side-kick to Conan, sure, yeah.
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She comes back as a fucking Valkyrie to save Conan's ass. That's dedication.
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...yeah, and there's plenty of cheese in CONAN THE BARBARIAN...but the overall effect (helped immensely by the music)is so lofty and high-adventure/myth that if feels more like an evil Bible epic than fantasy...
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My first exposure to Conan's music was far mroe pure, in that i only heard it only in relation to the movie. I heard it the first time when i saw the mvoie for the first time. And you have no idea how awesome it was to hear it pure. It was awesome personified.
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That music we heard in Conan was just Arnold's own natural soundtrack that played everywhere he went.
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Bc its got that hottie princess in it, who was a goddess for my young teenage self.
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but again--that's a stretch. The guy doesn't look anything like an Ethiopian or black African.I maintain that he fits the criteria and is about as close are you are gonna get. Howard was a confederate sympathizer and white supremacist, so I'm positive that he had an ancient Aryan superman in mind; but the problem is he gave him dark skin and hair, making him more like a black irishman (who are of partial mediterranean descent). To get a guy with those features naturally, you can't just step into some Scottish pub. Bottom line for me is, as long as they play him as a Cimmerian hillsman, I'mn fine with this choice.
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you lying sheep rapist. Now on top of being a virulent homophobe you're a racist also, nice job animal rapist you made the hat trick.
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...compared to Barbarian, simply by listening to Mako's narration at the beginning. In Barbarian, he sounded like he was in some kind of deep shamanic trance... but in Destroyer, it sounded like he was reading the same story for the Family Channel.
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I see no cheese in CONAN THE BARBARIAN. In fact, the movie takes itself pretty seriously, with some moments of (dark) humour for relieve. And the movie is far more intelligent then most people give it credit. The people who made Conan actually took it very damn serious. The people who made the sequel, not so much. The cheese belongs to the sequel. The first movie is the real deal.
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at actual ACTING. His character on Stargate is a cliche poor man's BA Baracus. He has the gravitas of a bland power ranger. Think of one of those guys on Sorbo's Hercules doing the Blue Steel look from Zoolander, and that's basically it. If he has more to bring, I have yet to see him bring it. I hear he's funny as hell, but for this kind of part I suspect he'll offer no more than that kid in the Scrpion King sequel (and surprise, wasn't he a power ranger?).
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But compared to the subtle brilliance of the first (scenes such as Conan sitting contemplatively after beheading James Earl Jones, or discussing theology) it's annoyingly bad.
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Jan. 22, 2010, 2:49 p.m. CST
another thign that gives credibility to CONAN THE BARBARIAN...
by AsimovLives
... was the casting of Max Von Sydow. He's in a short sequence, but every second of him onscreen counts. and he completly steals the movie. And he gives one of the most hauting speeches about the value of the love of a father for a child i ever seen in a movie. In a few short scenes, he mananges to break the hearts of the audiences, the image of this powerful king broken down because he lost the love of his child to a demagogue.<br><br> It's elements like this that really elevates CONAN THE BARBARIAN above what otherwise would be "just an adventure fun movie". No, CONAN THE BARBARIAN is not just an adventure movie. IT'S EPIC. IT'S MYTH.
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That shit, i even deliberatly forget that piece of shit was even made. It's doesn't fucking exist. It's a fucking mockery, and a disgrace for everybody involved.
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which is your whole mission in life, fucking slave.
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...slapstick or goofyness. Like I said, the overall effect is so great that it either works or you barely notice amidst all the savage badassery.
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In REH's Hyborian, the kushites were not black, they were arabic. and the dude above photrogrpahed, he's closer in looks to a arab (as youw ell said, you would think of him as "mediterraenan") then to a celt. there's absoltuly nothing celt-like in his looks. But you could turn him onto a kushite in an heart-beat. Hell, if i ddin't know better and never saw him with the rasta hair adn the surfer trunks, i would had misaken him for an anatolian turk.
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Jan. 22, 2010, 2:56 p.m. CST
...and I used to think that suff like Punching The Camel...
by FlickaPoo
...was out of place in CONAN...until I re-read the original stories recently. There is more occasional broad humor in REH than I remembered...
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Thats why he has the dreads, to make himself seem blackish or whatever. He's just lame, period and no one will by him as Conan. Seriously of all the actors working today this was the best they could find? Doesn't look the part, he looks like the villain's afeminate sidekick Conan would kill. This just sucks.
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There is indeed. I remember how in one story REH describes a drunken Conan which was quite hillarious. And i do think that Milius' movie represents quite well and very faithful the kind of humour that was in REH's stories.
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has a token black guy with dreadlocks. And the shittier the show, the longer and crazier the dreadlocks are. This guy is boring as shit. And seeing Conan's dad with his face all stretched out and collagen in his lips is going to kind of take me out of the fantasy lol. Seriously Rourke, you know who does that to their face? Women. Old fucking women. Are you an old woman? Because old women get that stuff done to their faces. Do you feel pretty now? Pretty like a 20 year old girl? Fucking douchebag. You took 20 years trying to get your cred back, you finally did it, then you blew it by making yourself look like a transvestite.
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Sad, isn't it? It's not just that he doesn't look the part, but i can tell from that photo that he has absolutly no screen charisma. He migth be purty, but there is nothing in that guy in way of charisma that wouls make me say "i would like to be him". Nothing. He's a board. I have seen boards and planks of wood with more charisma. Compared to him, Keanu Reeves looks like Errol Flynn or Harrison Ford in his Raiders Of The Lost Ark days.
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...doesn't feel like typical low-end fantasy magic at all...it feels somehow real and ancient. More like Voodoo than New Age crystal shit.
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I've never looked up Kush on Howard's Hyborean map, so I'll concede on it's location in his literary universe. However I have come upon several passages that describe Conan as brown or bronzen, so for me this guy (who is still blue-eyed) is still wihin the range of acceptibility--different strokes I guess. I'll reserve judgement on this guy until the trailers hit.
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...ancient. More Sumerian or Mesopotamian than Greek or Roman...or even Babylonian.
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... was frikkin terrible, good concept, BAD presentation... and more.
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This movie will make The Mummy look like a masterpeice. Who are this idiots who keep giving work to this retard Marcus Nispel? before he proved his unworthiness with the exacrable Texas Chainsaw massacre remake and Pathfinde,r he was better known as the iduiot who was fired from END OF DAYS because of an endless list of stupid demands he made which was turned public and he became the subject mockery in Hollywood for years. It took another retard like Michael Bay to make help this hack have a career. Thanks a fucking lot, Michael Bay, and fuck you.
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Indians Vs Vikings is not a good concept, it's A PERFECT CONCEPT! How can you fuck that up? How can you fuck that up? Well, if you are Marcus Nispel, you can. Fucking nispel mannaged to impossible. and now this assclown wants to make a Conan movie! The gods mock us! Crom, if this your work, the hell with you!
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fucking up dragons vs. Christian Bale. Oh wait.
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It's as i have said before, having bronze coloured skin doesn't mean "slightly ethbnic". No, it means that coana, a celtic looking fella, has tanned skin because of exposure to the sun and elements. It's enviromental, not genetic. If you want a mental pciture of the real conan, imagine a celt with tanned skin. and that is not what teh dude in the pciture above looks. there's no way in hell you could mistake that guy with a tanned skinned northern european. and don't think i say this because i'm a northern european myself, becaus ei'm not. I'm portuguese, and if you looked at me, you would see a guy which your first impressison would be pale skinned spaniard with something of a jewish or arabic look. I have nothing in me that could be mistaken for a northern european. The closest to a northern european i would look would be those darker welsh celts like Catherine Zeta Jones or Christian Bale. My point is, the dude in the photo above is wrong on all levels. ALL LEVELS. Were i black, chinese or samoean i would say the same thing.
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.. da HELL vit chu..!!!!
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Now you're talking. That IS the perfect film score. I stop and close my eyes when I hear "Atlantean Sword." No other piece of music captures that "ancient magic" feel - the last vestiges of Atlantis found in the tomb of that ancient king.<p>The music for Conan The Destroyer was great too, with "Illusion's Lake" coming in a close second to "Atlanetean Sword" for otherwordliness.
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I classify REIGN OF FIRE merely as a failure. I classify PATHFINDER as a major mega clusterfuck fuck up beyond all possible repair. FUBAR, thy name is Pathfinder.
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... did any of you see Outlander? I had real high hopes for it, bought it BEFORE seeing it. Now it's not anywhere near Pathfinder bad, but at least it's better than Reign of Fire (which should have been an AWESOME movie, but wasn't)... man i've seen alot of shit movies!!!
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Those pics by Blackwood & the FaceBook Rants!!! This dude really did not impress me on Stargate Atlantis, so that's my main beef. I've never seen Pathfinder, but apparently that's an ill omen enough for some.
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scoring A GAME OF THRONES. Alas! His scores for ROBOCOP and STARSHIP TROOPERS are fucking balls-out classics, too. And he did HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER.
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"Atlantean Sword" is indeed brillant. My own personal favorite track from CONAN THE BARBARIAN's score is the track called "Theology/Civilization". Everytime i hear it, i get goose-bumps. I'm not kidding, the very mention of that track already gives me goose-bumps. God, how i love that track! A brillant piece of music composition to the most charming part of the movie. That scen eof conan and Sabutai discussing their religion and their gods is just a pure moment of cinematic brillance.
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You know why? At least Pathfinder has a semblance of visual flare. Outlander had that Jesus guy staring at a kid for 10 minutes, a stupid looking alien, and vikings that strolled out of the O.C..
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I love the score for ROBOCOP and HUNT FOR THE RED OCTOBER. The later movie's main theme is pure russian choral cool.
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...and, as Jaka pointed out, "easy and unimaginative casting" means really no one but NON-Conan fans will want to check this out. Which, obviously, begs the question WHY MAKE A CONAN MOVIE out of this cast and crew? If Conan isn't having sex with naked, big-breasted women & biting out the throats of his enemies, then it's a fake repackaged and sold under the "Conan" brand name. Predictable, unimaginative and easy, indeed. Anyways...we're all just floating...
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Fuckers.
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Well, at least Outlander (a movuie that i realyl donpt like much) at least had one good scene (when the Jesus guy tells the tale of how the humanoids were actually the responsible for the fury that the creature is unleashing), and was a far better adaptationof Beowulf then the fucking bullshit motherfucking crap that fucking Zemeckis's toy flic unleashed to an innocent world.<br><br>pathfinde,r howeve,r has not one single unredeable feature. and worst, any filmmaker and movie that makes Clancy Brown looks boring and uninteresting comits a major crime right there. It's takes a special kind of idiot to rob all the charisma out of Clancy Brown, but that fucker Nispel did it. How fucking bad you can get to mannage such an achievement? Making Clancy Brown boring!!! UNBELIEVABLE!!!
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You can bet on that.
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Jan. 22, 2010, 3:40 p.m. CST
Who wants to bet with me that in this new Conan movie...
by AsimovLives
... it will be a redemption story sbout Conan fixing a wrong he did in the past by slaughter hundreds of face-less enemies? And in this movie, we will get a more emotional Conan, so the teens can relate,,a dn conan wuill be more sensitive, while still killing lots. Because that's what sensitive people do. adn this time, Conan will show absolutly no chauvinism toward women, so not to hurt the sensitive sensibilities of modern audiences. It will be EMO CONAN. And the filmmakers will claim they have gone backl to the roots of Conan and made him like REH created.<br><br>And who wants to bet that the filmmakers will find a way to put several explosions in the movie? Because all action movies need explosions, right? It's the fucking law!
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Its just FULL of illogical sequences that make no sense given the context of previous scenes.
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Many years ago. Did one for Hunt for Red October too. LOVE that Russian choral theme on that one. Its awesome.
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... has anyone seen VALHALLA RISING?
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...he's got an honest face so I'm going to cut him some slack.<P>He MIGHT be able to pull Conan off IF...<P>1-They break his nose badly at least once in the next few weeks and let it heal on its own.<P>2-They split his lip three or four times and let it heal without stitches.<P>3-He puts on thirty pounds of muscle. Not bodybuilder muscle...knotty working muscle.<P>4-He becomes a top notch actor between now and shooting. If he came off more naturally ferocious he might not need it...but he doesn't. So he's going to have to figure out how to act it.<P>Good luck.
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They should put him on a training regimen not unlike Rocky's in ROCKY IV. And put him on the wheel!
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Hopefully we'll get it in the US soon.
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Basically, you want him to work in construction and do all the heavy lifting by hand. I think he would still need years to get the right physique. By then it would be too late.
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...packed as the trailers lead you to believe...more moody and slow simmer. This was described as a negative, but to me it sounds promising...
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You have to admit that title is a bit... well, bad! Besides, it makes absolutly no sense! Vahalla Raising? Raising from what? The basement?
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...Portuguese stone mason to play Conan?<P>Sounds about right to me.
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"Crom is a fucking professional! Crom fucking laughs at you from his fucking mountain, YOU FUCK!"
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Jan. 22, 2010, 3:59 p.m. CST
I've heard about VALHALLA's slow, simmering moodiness
by ColonelFatheart
and I think it could be a positive. Trust me, Flicka, I have no illusions. I have no idea about the meaning of the title, Asi, but I hope the movie helps me figure it out.
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This is an old picture, he actually got a beer glass smashed in his face a while back during a bar brawl and he's kind of scarred up naturally.
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sometimes i feel that hollywood is out to destroy everything i love.
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...I like an underdog. I think it's lazy casting, but I want to root for this guy for some reason.
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I agree, but I think on his best day he could be a very good Conan. He's got a lot going for him in my book.
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Aportuguese stone mason sounds wrong to me. Besides, we are a nation of fishermen and sailors. The sea is the major influence on portuguese's culture, probably more then any other country there is, even the greeks and the dutch.
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... then count me in. If you ask me, all this hysterical Michael Bay-like over-edited hysterics of today movies bores me to death.
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I know the feeling.
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That's some good news right there. And it's the director of Bronson and the Pusher movies. There's hope after all. Maybe Valhalla Raising is just an uninspired english language title that has little to do with the real title of the movie in it's original danish or something. Many times, foreign distributors fuck up the titles.
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Wow, I guess Conan is only "part" Cimmerian in this movie. Way to fucking go, Hollywood. I will NOT see this strait to video SHIT.
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I want to root for the right guy who should get the Conan role but is not getting it because the studios want to go with the next popular pretty boy HIMBO.
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...raising??? and guys (gals,too) until this shit that is "Twilight" goes away, this is what we have to look forward to in casting. FUCK sakes
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And Arnold as his dad cameo. Cmon Hollywood this one is easy ffs. And at least gimme a cgi dead Mel Gibson mad max at the opening of Fury Road if you want me to pay theater tickets. God Im only 44 and still have 20-40 years of life for you to shit on great genre franchises.
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... It cracks me up when you guys/armchair casting directors, get your panties in a wad over stuff like this. He can't possibly be a worse actor than Ahnuld, and he's 4" taller!
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You are not a true geek if you have not watched every single Stargate episode..C'mon ;) You advertise the box sets on here all the time... Don't tell me you can't get one yourself now ;)
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At least Arnold looked like he came from some part of northern europe. Which he did.
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...if they're like Italians they're mostly small and wiry guys who could kick the ass of a man three times their size...but not the right look for Conan.
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well thers another movie i will not waste my $$ on
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arnold wasn't completely correct but he was larger than life and had loads of charisma going for him.<br> <br>and i love destroyer as awful as it is.
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That we're going to get a "TEEN" friendly Conan movie as opposed to the dirty dark seedy movie it should be. Look out for the straight to tv cgi!!!
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http://tinyurl.com/yjt7uy7 Check out the bottom pic, scarred up face, bronze skin, big dude, sans dreads... I can see it.
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about the enigma of steel. Watching it right now. Almost makes my eyes water with primitive man tears.
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OMG what a woman. She's old-school hollywood with some nice tittays.
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<p>The soundtrack was the best thing about the original Conan (well that and the answer to "Conan, what is good in life?"). In fact, I'd have to rate it my favorite album of all time, I never get tired of it. I look back at so many 80s blockbusters and now recognize they're not the best flicks, but the music made them great (Star Wars, Indy, Jaws, etc).</p> <p>I think this guy can play the part well enough, but the script and direction (and soundtrack) will inevitably suck, so why bother?</p>
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...cool name. <P>Stay frosty.
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This talkback has gotten me all misty. I'll be watching Conan The Barbarian this weekend.
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THe Sword just popped up on Pandora.com. <P> 'tis a sign.
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...I've forgotten what is best in life.
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probably the adventures just before, during, and after he becomes king.<p>Keter's done his homework. I've read the first volume of the '04 Del Rey publishings and his writing deserves proper homage on film. CONAN is awesome. He fights horrific shit - indescribable demons of the deep that burn and lacerate flesh – and for what? The best pussy ever. That, or the sheer pleasure of slaying whatever decides to fuck with him. "I live, I burn with life, I love, I slay, and am content..." Conan's bad as fuck, and an existentialist to boot! Show REH some real homage – do a brilliant CONAN movie.<p>I saw Milius's take recently, the first time in maybe 20 years. He worked well with what he had, good photography and music. Arnold looked the part, but not quite. The script was well-crafted and struck on philosophy, but it lacked the energy of REH's writing. When Conan takes off after the demon chariot in Black Colossus, he fucking takes off after it, running his horse to its final breath in the pursuit. Scenes like that populate Conan's adventures and are begging for cinematic exploitation. I had dismissed Milius's rendition as Sunday-afternoon-TV-movie fare, but found it entertaining in its own right. Howard's writing pulled off properly on film will translate to cinematic bliss.<p>I don't know anything about Nispel's work, but does the fact he directed Pathfinder qualify him for CONAN? My guess is no. I say if Nispel's version tanks, reboot again. The script should read as Howard wrote the stories – as though Conan were telling the tales to him, and he simply wrote down what he heard, as opposed to getting involved in a cumbersome origin story that attempts to be all encompassing of the Hyborean Age. Just jump into the action, like Conan would. Do 2-3 tightly spun yarns in a 2-hour running time, or follow a Bond-like franchise that showcases select tales throughout Conan's life.<p>Anyone read the script or treatment for this one? What are your thoughts? Will a CONAN movie end up in the right hands? Are these guys up to the task? These are the real biting questions of the day.
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the guy who directed Cher's cover of Walking In Mephis video is automatically qualified to direct a Conan remake/reboot/retardening.
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I'm gonna go home and bang my wench.
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...is everyone just reacting to him being on a crap piece of t.v. flotsam like BAYWATCH HAWAII?<p> This is the first time I've ever seen or heard of the guy and I certainly won't bring the hammer down based on a still photo. He already seems to have the basic skin tone and with some blue contacts and 6 months of physical conditioning...who knows? Sans dreadlocks of course. <p> Now, granted maybe many of you may full well know this guy is a lightweight and I'll take AICN/geek consensus into consideration. But the fact that you would spend 2 seconds watching such a piece of crap show does speak to your questionable taste.<p> So, my question is genuine...have you seen this guy act? I don't want to spend 2 seconds youtubing a Baywatch clip. I'm more concerned about director, art design and of course SCRIPT.<p>
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Jan. 22, 2010, 8:49 p.m. CST
I saw him in some shitty soap called North Shore
by Bruce of all Trades
He played a bartender or something. Naturally, he sucked. Who doesn't in these day time soaps? How or why I watched that show does not matter...
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and he was pretty good in that. He was a ballbreaker, but smart one. I can see as Conan.
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You'd go with Jared Padalecki? REALLY? I love Supernatural, but the dude is easily the weakest link on that show. He's too damned pretty to be Conan. Ideal choice for Conan- Ray Stevenson or Alexander Skaarsgard. Word.
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in the books.
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"And beside,s tha,t the action is pretty sweet, and Milius showed a great attention to detail about proper military procedual. but best i all, i love how milius didn't demonized the invaders and gave them ambiguity, shades of honour and humanity. Milius just cannot write an simplistic uninteresting character, even if it's supposed for us to hate him. " <P> So what did you find in the invaders behaviour honorable and humane? Was it when they were executing the prisoners in the detention camp? <p> Or maybe when they attempted to rape Toni (Jennifer Grey's character)?
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No question that Howard intended Conan to be white. Howard was pretty much a racist, as you could expect someone to be in his time and place. In some of his lesser known stories he makes that crystal clear. That said, I don't care as much about what Howard wanted as what is right for the character. I have to admit that I just don't envision the character as "multi-ethnic" in the sense of mixed black and white. Possibly this guy can pull it off, but it will be an uphill fight. That said, I loathe the attitude that any character originated by someone white has to be played by one. The "Honeymooners" wasn't about race, it was about class and aspirations. It wasn't "PC" to cast black stars, it was just the search for good properties that an actor could play. The movie SUCKED, but that had nothing to do with race. Bond? White, Scottish, British. No problem. Captain American? Probably white. Hard to imagine Steve Rogers as a black man in WW2 without serious re-writing of army history. Nick Fury? No problem him being black, because it's the 20th Century, and you don't have him as a WW2 Vet any more. Shaft as white? Destroys the whole concept. Sisko on DS9 as white? Why not? Blade as white? I'd twitch, but there's nothing intrinsic about the character that says he couldn't be. I think you have to look at it on a case by case basis. If someone had said "The Rock" I'd be nervous, both because he doesn't fit the image in my head, and because he couldn't be sexual in a movie without losing some audience...and I'd like to see an ass-kicking, wench-boffing Conan. I think far too often racists hide behind the "scorn of PC" label. They secretly LOVE the idea that so many of the villains in Lord of the Rings are dark-skinned, would swear it has nothing to do with race, but would spit if someone had cast it multi-ethnic.
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Conan the destroyer has the best hero fantacy sword fights ever - Conan chopping down the imperial guards in the woods - No it didnt save the movie, but it is the best bit of hero sword slashing around.
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BWOP! Knocked that fucker out. Conan got overserved that night. Had he been sober I doubt he would've walloped a defenseless beast.
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"They should get the guy who will be playing The Mountain that Rides. Whoever that may be. (Anybody know?)" They haven't yet cast The Mountain that Rides yet, but my money is on an actor named (yes) Conan Stevens who is 7' tall, 320 lbs. and self described geek who has been lobbying for the role for two years now and hinted on his website (http://tinyurl.com/yf9c3sq). He also happens to look a LOT like Rory McCann who was already cast as his brother, The Hound (http://tinyurl.com/yfkcupn).
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...Conan Stevens hinted on his website that he auditioned for something important, and reading between the lines it sounds like it could be Game of Thrones.
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Jan. 22, 2010, 10:11 p.m. CST
Fuck this, I want King Conan: Crown of Iron
by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave
And that's certainly one role that Arnold is not too old to play; he can now truly be the embodiment of the aging, bearded Conan we saw in the epilogue of the first movie. Hell, he's got the poltical life experience to bring to the role now.<p> Millius' script was reportedly epic and awesome - you'd think that any studio head with a functioning brain cell would have greenlit the thing in the wake of Gladiator and LOTR, since it combined the best elements of both. I always heard that Millius wanted to make a trilogy of Conan films: the first, existing movie, was about the theme of Strength (Conan rising to the top); the second was to be about Power (with Conan in his prime as a legendary barbarian); and the third, with an older Conan now as King, Responsibility. But you can blame Dino De Laurentis for fucking that all up with the cheesy Conan the Destroyer, which epitomised the very worst of the cheapo eighties fantasy genre, and of course, Red Sonja where, let's face, Arnold was supposed to be playing Conan in all but name (likely for legal reasons).<p>You can tell exactly what form this new movie's going to take - horribly edited MTV cutting, ridiculous slow motion, PG-13 violence, and an accompanying nu-metal soundtrack, just like 300 (Ok, that was R, but still) and the forthcoming Clash of the Titans. Conan the Barbarian was an elevated genre movie that came close to a work of art. And alas, times are too PC now for a true unabashed depiction of the barbarian milieu of Howard's stories. Arnold unapolegetically killing his enemies with the 'might is right' and Nietschean world view would be deemed facist nowadays, and his conquest of nubile young wenches irredeemably sexist. They'd be better off casting Taylor Lautner for this new Conan - maybe the teen girls'll flock to the movie to drool over Conan's toned but emascualted and effeminate body, as well as swoon to the 'sensitive' side you just know they're going to add to the character. Conan Castrated, that's what they should call it. Bring back the 80's, when men were men and an eye was taken for an eye.
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Not the Arnold one. What the FUCK.
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He was pretty bad ass on that show - event hough the rest of it was mostly meh. My favorite moment is the one where him and Teal'c finally face off. I think he could pull it off. And Teal'c should be Thulsa Doom. If not him, then Michael Dorn. But it'll probably be an UFC or MMA guy.
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in that there is absolutely NO WAY; it is flat-out impossible, that the people involved with this will make a quality Conan movie. Just as the odds are totally against a quality Spider-Man movie appearing from Sony.<p> The people involved simply do not have the intelligence or talent to pull this off. They simply cannot do the job correctly. It would be akin to a quadrapalegic suddenly rising and running a 4.5 in the 40 yard dash. It will simply never happen.<p> You don't need a crystal ball to see this. You don't need to be a pre-cognitive. It's as clear as the sun in the sky. The actor they've cast as Conan is shit. The screenplay will be shit. The director is shit and consequently, the movie will be shit.<p> In many ways, it's a relief. You can't have your expectations dashed when you never had any in the first place. There's a strange sort of solace in that, becaue thankfully, we'll always have the REH stories, the novelizations, the great issues of the comics (and there were many), the Frazetta and Brom paintngs, and of course, the wonderful 1982 film and its accompanying score.<p> And that's pretty sweet right there.
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It may be unlikely for a Conan movie to be good, but it ain't impossible at all. The corporate mob mentality may be herdlike, but the individuals are actually rather smart. Minimum buy-in for a hell of a lot of jobs in Hollywood is a law degree (really is shocking how many I've met in this town) and lawyers average 130. Not genius, but certainly not "stupid." Groupthink makes it seem that way, though.
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at entertainment law, accounting, business administration, etc. I don't doubt their aptitude in those areas of expertise. But when it comes to adapting properties for the screen and producing intelligent, engaging movies that pay fidelity to their respective source materials, these "suits" are totally out to sea and hopelessly incompetent.<p> Yes, Spider-Man I and II were fine, but ONLY in the sense that they were insanely profitable. And that's the only thing that really counts with these people. The films themselves were sloppy and wholly inaccurate in regard to the source material they were supposedly based upon.<p> It goes further, too. The incomptence bleeds over to the creative ranks as well. Who was the casting director that cast Jason Momoa as Conan? He or she has no idea what the character of Conan even looks like. That much is glaringly obvious.<p> For example, why did Raimi insist on having Peter Parker shoot webs out of his wrists when the character has long been established as a scientific prodigy who invented his own "web shooters"? Raimi and his screenwriters were actually quite unclear about the character of Spider-Man and they went and made a series of bone-headed, incompetent choices as a result. In many instances the creative folks who work on these adaptations, the people who should know better, are as incompetent as the money men that finance these films.
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Jan. 23, 2010, 2:17 a.m. CST
re: LOST, flight 815 crash in REAL TIME, done in 24 style!
by BillboeFett
Damon Lindelof tweeted this from youtube, the editing is fucking brilliant: </BR> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =MKcKtjrL5bc </BR> or http://bit.ly/qlgxY
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Jan. 23, 2010, 3:10 a.m. CST
First I heard a guy from Twilight was playing Conan now this?!
by bloodawn5
That guy doesnt look like Conan,he is supposed to be a fricking titan incarnation,Arnold was the closest Conan I have seen,but this guy,meh,smells like a freaking Underwear bag
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The original Conan pulps had Conan described as a tall lean fighter. It was Frank Frazetta's artwork that turned him into the visceral muscular killing machine that the Milius Conan was based on. And its a much much better depiction than the original. That's what Conan is to anyone living today and that's how he should be depicted on film. You can make all the excuses you want about how this guy "kinda looks like how REH described Conan" but he's not Conan period. If your "Conan" doesn't look like he could exsist in a Frazetta painting then you've failed in depicting Conan.
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Ray "Titus Poulo" Stevenson !!!! Fire the casting crew right now !!!!
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Jan. 23, 2010, 5:53 a.m. CST
Why do you guys always put up the most gay-friendly image?
by BurnHollywood
My queer friends are developing quite a pin-up collection thanks to this site...
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I fear the day Harry somehow has a kid. This site will really go downhill.
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He is German, Irish, and pacific island native American. <br> And as others have said, Conan is supposed to be of a race of people who later become the historical Cimmerians/Scythians. <br> And they look sorta like people from Afghanistan or Kurds. <br> Conan is also supposed to have a grandparent from a southern tribe.<br> Again alluding to a little darkness in his racial line. <br> And that he lived near the Pictish Lands. And in his stories the Picts are not exactly the same as the historical Picts. But that the historical Picts are merely one branch of the original Picts, and that the other branch are the Native Americans. <br> <br> In fact if you really start to think about it... this actor almost has a perfect racial mix for Conan. The Germanic blood that fuels most of the "Barbarian" angle of Conan, the Irish blood that is prevalent in his actual name and his family heritage, and the Native American blood that could very well be influences by his Pictish neighbors to the south. <br><br> All in all making this guy with the tall shoulders and naturally tan but not dark complexion... pretty spot on. <br> <br> And no he is not a "pretty boy". At least not anymore. His last few roles have been of a warrior, not a model or a surfer or a "hot" guy or whatever. That was early on in his career. <br> He also has very bad scarring on his face due to a getting smashed with glass mug last year. His eyebrow is split and he has chunks of meat missing in his cheek and chin. <br> You can see it in one of the pictures i posted earlier.<br> Look again at these pictures, you will find a few in there that show his scars pretty prominently. <br><br> http://tinyurl.com/yblk2zl
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MOVIE WILL BOMB BIG
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that this movie will be directed by the same asshole who directed PATHFINDER. So we have an idiot who directed a terrible movie about a supposed badass sword wielding warrior directing another movie about a badass sword wielding warrior. This Momoa (his name sounds so funny) dude is the least of our worries.
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The bile being spewed at this casting and movie are pretty amazing and of course touching upon that well known AIC hyperbole. Cast a guy who looks close to how REH himself depicted Conan and the natives get restless. As much as I love the Arnold films, those were not "Conan" movies, they were movies with a character called Conan but he was not in appearance or characterization the real deal. I guess basing what they think of the character on what Frazetta painted (though he never read the books and just painted a barbarian) or the many depictions after based on that is fine. There's a good manip here as to what he may look like in the role. www.con an.com/invboard/index.php?showtopic=7816&st=80
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By the looks of him, there's definitely some deep family secrets being kept. Obviously one of the Women had an affair with a Black dude, lied and told the sucker she was engaged to that it was his kid.
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simply because of all these retarded casting suggestions. A year ago people were going around suggesting him for Thor. Seriously what is wrong with you people?
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Agile and fast but also big. To be fair Arnold kinda ruined the character for anyone else since he was such a larger than life dude. Im sure this guy can roid up to look the part and then let movie magic do the rest. Honestly, Arnold didnt exactly look agile like a panther but that being said, we all loved how awesome the first movie was. Conan pushing that wheel around growing huge etc. Badass. At this point, i dont care if conan was supposed to be portrayed as a 'Thief' type character i want a big awesome barbarian that kill camels with his fists.
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"Spider-Man I and II were fine, but ONLY in the sense that they were insanely profitable" Or that I and many of my friends, as well as many millions of others including quite intelligent people, enjoyed them. That does not make them good. But neither does your dislike of them make them "bad." A more honest statement would be that I am judging quality on the basis of my standards, and you on yours. But to suggest that I'm only saying that because they made money is simply incorrect.
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Perfect example, Star Hump. You believe that the primary responsibility of a movie-maker is to perfectly reproduce the original material. Hell, Biblical epics aren't held to that standard! Jim Cameron came up with the idea of the web coming from his body--which makes a hell of a lot of sense. If he could create that glue, why the hell was he always broke? Was Aunt May always on the edge of poverty? He could have sold the formula to 3M, made a billion dollars, and taken care of Uncle Ben's hapless widow in style. Stan Lee is and was a creative genius, but filmmakers--ALL filmmakers, all the time, take liberties. Disagree with the choices they make, sure. But I promise that if someone gave you a hundred million for your Spiderman (or whatever) movie, people would take issue with your choices too. And some of those people would be smarter than you, guaranteed. (The same would be true of me, by the way. I ain't pointing a finger)
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Jan. 23, 2010, 12:51 p.m. CST
The project sounds bad, but he looks interesting...
by backfromthedead
I'm a life long Conan fan since the Roy Thomas Marvel days and this guy looks potentially promising, so long as he straightens out his dreadlocks and is given a pair of blue contacts. From first glance he's not a bad choice. However all of this will be irrelevant if the movies as bad as I fear. With Baited breath Crom waits...
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He's perfect for Khal Drogo. The only thing is, he needs to bulk up. The guy's a barbarian horse lord. He needs to bigger. But I'm sure HBO has got this guy downing protien shakes and hitting the gym for four hours a day.
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although I don't know about "more honest." I wasn't attempting to be deceitful. OK, so we're judging those SM movies on our own respective standards. You're correct, of course. My view is definetly in the minority, I know that. Maybe I ask too much. But then again I don't see what's wrong with asking for excellence and not settling for mediocrity in these adaptations. It's more than reasonable to say the SM movies ranged from mediocre to execrable. Despite that, many, many millions enjoyed them. When it comes to the majority of filmgoers out there, they will see anything with a Spider-Man logo pasted on it. They just want to see Spider-Man swinging from building to building. The spectacle. You could cast Jonah Hill as Spider-Man and they'd turn out by the multi-millions to see it.<p> I'd go on about the webshooters but this TB is about Conan. (That shoulda coulda 3M argument doesn't hold water) I realize that changes are going to be made. I'm just saying that some of these changes serve no logic whatsoever. They are ego outbursts - suits and creatives changing stuff just because they want some measure of control, or because they feel the need to satisfy a demographic, or instill humor, or sometimes, it's just changing stuff because they think it's cooler than what the original creator of the material established. And they're often wrong and incompetent when making these choices. And therefore disrespectful to the source material, to the very persons who worked so hard to bring these creations to life. It's arrogant and idiotic behavior, and it happens more often than not.<p> Peter Jackson and dwarf tossing for instance. Sam Raimi and Gwen Stacy for example. Bryan Singer and Superman for another example. I could cite dozens and dozens of examples.<p> I expect more from these movie people. They routinely fuck these projects up and then crank out more because the public roars out to see these deeply flawed movies. If the general moviegoer only knew what they were missing out on.<p> In the meantime they'll settle for an Hawaiian Conan. But they deserve better.
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You're right that we deserve better. We can agree to disagree about 3M.
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Either do A) King Conan with Arnold to finish the trilogy or B)make it hardcore REH. Becuase this horesshit looks to be neither, but then again these fuckups are honestly typical by now, it's inherent.
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Third-raters all around. This guy is clearly a joke, and they are not reading Howard. Maybe I'll watch this one on Sy Fy some day. Maybe not.
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Jan. 24, 2010, 1:38 p.m. CST
A flaming casting director wi Dred fetish gave him the job when
by picardsucks
We go from Oliver Stone, John Milus and Arnold to Gaywatch!! This is almost gayer than those guys who get all tatted up, shave their heads, grow pencil thin goutees, wear Tapout shirts all the time and reliously follow that Ultimate fighting stuff where oiled up, half naked, Steroid-Coke-Methhead white trash roll around grabbing one another in a cage (nothing gay about that!) Our culture has fully embraced Grecophilia in almost all aspects of society and now we have fey Conan eating sushi off the stomach of flaming NYU casting directors well shaved nuts. I think I'll take a pass on this one but good for the gay community congrats, first gay Wolverine, then the whole MMA -UFC butch wanna be tough guy, Greco-Roman, gay thing, then that Twilight thing Now another hero bites the sausage, Conan the well groomed not overly muscular, United Colors of Benatton guy
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Looking at this guy the way he is, it's easy to say this will be terrible, especially if you actually are a fan. I was/am a huge R.E.Howard's stories and Frank Frazetta's artwork and especially so back when DinoDeLaurentis, following that terrible re-make of King Kong, said he was going to bring Conan to the screen and that pretty boy Arnold of 'pumpin' iron' was going to be act the lead...he could barely speak English and what else had he done? Oh...yeah, he played Mickey Haggerty in some embarrassing bio-pic on the life of Jayne Mansfield. Every fan was sure it had to fail..and in many respects it did fail when compared to what the well-vetted fans wanted to see, but it became enornously popular and defined the character far better than any of the true fans thought it could and took on a life of its own. I hope the producers and directors of this next generation of Conan go back to the source material and the Frazetta artwork, and use the modern capacity for recreating the fantastic (in IMAX 3-D or better and no less). I have a feeling that they know what they're doing, want this to appeal to the die-hard fans as it must. Judging how this incarnation of Conan will appear on the screen based on the current Hollywood image of this admittedly unknown pretty boy fails to give credit to the guys who presumably understand what made the first franchise with Arnold so popular and, I hope, will do an even better job of adhering to the source...and please, leave out Ben Davidson, an NFL lineman looking to make a name in movies, and his ridiculously oversized mallet as if it were comedy relief. It still is like bitter gall in my mouth when I think of that particularly eggregious example of DeLaurentis' judgement back then. Bring on the fantastic dark and violent tone of the original pulp Conan, the Frazetta landscapes, and characters who seem suited to the hyperborean age, uh, by Crom. And really, if Robert Downey can become an action hero, or that commedian from Australia, what's his name...oh yeah, Christian Bale, the Tom Hanks of Australia for chissake, can become batman, this Hawaiian Tropic calendar model can too. He at least has the classic 'swarthy look' that was a big part of why Conan was the Cimmerian anti-hero/thief/pirate/assassin and one day King.
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I agree with many who said here Arnold wasn't really like REH Conan, however he was still his own lovable thing, and the 1982 movie is the best sword and sorcery genre (fanning the 80s S&S wave), but looks-wise Arnold did look like the Cimmerian, blue eyed, bronze skinned, except for the jet black hair but who gives a shit about that, it was dark good enough. However the blue eyes thing was pretty important since it was always flashing or piercing or whatever, so i dont know why they gave this guy brown eyes.
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The only mainstream name that I can think of for Conan would be Gerard Butler... he is ripped and lean... I can imagine him with a beard and long hair... but even then he needs to gain about 20 pounds of muscle. The best bet would be to grab an unknown actor from the bodybuilding circuit or strongman competition... someone maybe like Alexander Fedorov or Roman Firtz...dunno. The only other option is to do the script with Arnold with the storyline of Conan being an old king and fighting his bastard son... was a good script I thought. Arnold can hit the gym... put on armor like at the end of the first Conan film... and kick some ass.
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Jan. 24, 2010, 3:07 p.m. CST
Conan along with Blade Runner/Star Trek 2 the best of 82
by TakingScorpiosCalls
seriously Conan is one of the greatest of its era.
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You think Christian Bale is Australian?
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Jan. 24, 2010, 3:11 p.m. CST
Speaking of Blade Runner, Roy Batty had REH Conan's physicality
by TakingScorpiosCalls
Especially when he's dodging and jumping Deckard's gun shots in the wharehouse, Ridley Scott was made to cinematically transfer Howard's world back then.
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Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... We've waited so long and we get Baywatch Hyboria? WTF??!!!
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Conan the Barbarian: "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women." We need a Conan that looks like Barry Windsor-Smith drew him or at the least a passable resembalance to Arnold, depending on the character's age..
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- Wow - i just lost interest in this. Terrible casting - I have no idea if he can act but he is physicaly about as wrong as you can get.
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playing Conan would be The Rock. He has the look, the build, his acting has improved markedly. End of story for me.
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This guy looks like he belongs in How Stella Got Her Groove Back: Southern Hemisphere. Not fucking Conan the Mother-Fucking Barbarian, the Cimmerian who breaks chains with the strength of his heavily muscled limbs, who kills man ape demons and slays bodies with one stroke of his sword. This fucking guy does not match any of that. Period.
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Jan. 25, 2010, 1:56 p.m. CST
Roland Kickinger looks exactly like a young Arnold only Bigger
by picardsucks
Roland Kickinger looks exactly like young Arnold only bigger. He was the only good thing about that putrit shitfest Terminator Salvation. He played the Arnold terminator because he looks exactly like Arnold. But nope the completely over the top gayer than Rip Taylor throwing confettee hollywood gay community has finally said fuck it were queens I want to see some United Benatton slightly (but not overly muscular and threatening) yummy Bi-Racial, Asexual beanpool in Conan's gay fur thong. Told you guys first a subtle gay Wolverine, a slightly gayer Superman, this whole butch extremly gay Ultimate fighting Grecophile thing, Twilight, and now full on femmy Conan. I fully support the gay communtiy , think gay marriage is a wonderful thing but this full on gaying up of or genre heros has to stop. It's bad enough that everyone under the age of 30 (except those brave ones in our military) are fag trendy slacker pussies but I draw the line at Conan. Looks like the only two anti-Nambla posterchildren men's men left in Hollywood are Captain James T. Kirk and James Bond. It's not too late to cast Roland Kickinger or hell even the Rock as Conan.
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I wait for 10yrs after finding about crown of iron and this is the Conan given to us!!!!Below is Conan at the age 16.And still pisses over momoa.lol He was tall,strongly made youth standing beside him.This person was as much out of place of that in the den as a gray wolf among mangy rats of the gutters.His cheap tunic could not conceal the hard,rangy lines of his powerful frame,the broard heavy shoulders,the massive chest.the lean waist,and heavy arms.His skin was brown from outland suns,his eyes blue smoldering;a shock of tousled black hair crowned his broad forehead
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New movie is gonna suck without James Earl Jones and Arnie.
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