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Harry has seen JUSTICE LEAGUE: CRISIS ON TWO EARTHS animated feature!!!
JUSTICE LEAGUE: CRISIS ON TWO EARTHS
God, I love getting to see DC UNIVERSE animated original movies so early! I wasn't blown away by the PUBLIC ENEMIES animated film, as it was little more than an excuse for battles. All under the pretense of Luthor being President. With JUSTICE LEAGUE: CRISIS ON TWO EARTHS... well, we get a treat... a feature animated tale involving the concept of the Crisis on Infinite Earths type of story. Frankly, I wish the title had INFINITE instead of TWO, because while most of the action occurs on two Earths, it is very much a crisis that is a danger to infinite Earths... not just the two. And we do see multiple versions of Earth in the film. That said, it is MAINLY all about these two particular versions of Earth.
Essentially we have one Earth that has the Justice League that we know and love as a benevolent organization that is out to protect the citizens of Earth from foul play, and another Earth where the like powered super-powered denizens formed a group called THE CRIME SYNDICATE... which is a super-powered team of mobsters that have divided up the Earth and have been tormenting, extorting and killing all those that would oppose their reign. Meanwhile, on that planet - we have the former leader of the superpowered resistance, LEX LUTHOR - travel to an alternate Earth, with our regular heroes. He manages to convince them to come back to thwart the evildoers.
I've been familiar with the Crime Syndicate characters for ages now, but I have to say... hearing Owlman come to life with the voice of James Woods... bent on the destruction of existence itself. Watching how the Syndicate works... the way they operate... they're delightfully evil - and kinda remind me a bit of that episode of Classic Trek on the planet of Chicago Mobsters, which I always suspected influenced the creators of the Crime Syndicate.
As with each of these ANIMATED features, the style is different yet again. Mark Harmon is a strong voice for Superman, who is more in command here, than in any of the previous incarnations. He sounds powerful & a bit cocky. William Baldwin's Batman feels tamer than James Woods' Owlman, but that's how it should be here. And truly they seem mere degrees off of one another... with Woods' OWLMAN just being all the way insane.
This is another winning film for the DC UNIVERSE group. Sadly my screener didn't have the SPECTRE short, nor any of the other extras that this will come packed with, when it hits in late February.
If I were ranking these so far, this would be behind NEW FRONTIER, GREEN LANTERN & WONDER WOMAN features, but above the rest. You'll love how this wraps up. I certainly did.
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If I can't manage to get a screener, will get it the day it comes out.
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James Woods as a Batman-alternate baddie? I'm sold.
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really though i could have sworn that show just had a three episode arc that dealt with a crisis on two earths
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Right you are. The only difference I can see is that is was the Joker (as Red Helmet or somesuch) coming back for Batman's help. It was really well done, too.
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Jan 18, 2010 6:13:45 PM CST
SPOILER: BOTH EARTHS HAVE UWE BOLL IN THEM
by richard_gere_raped_my_gerbil
You really don't want to live in either because of that one single fact.
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Can't wait for it to come out...
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... the alternate 'evil' Superman has a Chicago accent.
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Now where's my 'Saga of the Blue Beetles'?
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I'm thinking Harry isn't as familiar with these characters as he lets on. Lex Luthor crossing dimensions for help sounds like a direct rip of the JLA: Earth 2 graphic novel from 2000. Can we get a synopsis here or some kind of review??? All we get is some crap about how you read about these characters as a kid and a plug for James Woods. BTW the plot of the Earth 2 characters is always a rip off of the "mirror universe" from Star Trek... Evil Capt Kirk pretending he's Good Capt Kirk in the other universe etc.
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meh...
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Maybe this movie is probably setting the stage for a Crisis saga?
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Well, that's what "Mr. President" looks like to me. Or he would with his eye-patch on the other side...
So, I guess... SOLIDUS... ?!?!? -
Isn't Owlman Earth-2's Bruce Wayne? Therefore, shouldn't Owlman and Batman be played by the same voice actor?
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but you are the one who praised that piece of crap Green Lantern: First Flight movie. The stink of that movie still pisses me off.
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Damn. I had high hopes, but this isn't better than THOSE?? WW kinda had a few laughs. GL had its moments. NF was decent, yet rushed and flawed. Actually, I think NF would have been much better had it focused more on GL. Utterly forgettable, all of them, with no replay value whatsoever.IMO and of the two... DC titles are superior on TV yet it is Marvel that almost always has the better DTV movies. Hell, I like Next Avengers even though I had no reason to on first blush. Hulk vs., Doctor Strange, etc. Looking forward to Planet Hulk!
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SUPERMAN/BATMAN: PUBLIC ENEMIES was far more entertaining than watching Steve Trevor as a chauvinist douchebag. Still haven't seen any DC animated Direct-To-DVD projects that top JUSTICE LEAGUE: THE NEW FRONTIER, though. Probably never will until they finally give us THE NEW TEEN TITANS: THE JUDAS CONTRACT or LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES: THE GREAT DARKNESS SAGA.
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Oh yeah, I went there.
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with Crisis on Infinite Earths, does it? No Superboy?
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Jan 18, 2010 7:41:24 PM CST
DC's Crisis on Infinite Earths = best comic limited series ever
by shaner jedi
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Thank God, Buddha, etc...for Comics because SMALLVILLE really ruined Oliver Queen for me.
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Could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Owlman is that universe's Thomas Wayne, not Bruce. That would explain the different voices.
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It worked the best of all of them. New Frontiers was too rushed and too truncated (and the solution turned the Green Lantern ring into a shameless deus ex machina). Green Lantern: First Flight suffered for the origin story already being told in New Frontier so that Hal just sucked as a lead character. Only Wonder Woman has been good enough that had it been a live action movie with a few more scenes to pad out the nuts and bolts (perhaps Steve Trevor being debriefed and the Americans learning of Paradise Island via him and Diana then), it would have kicked everyone's ass just like Ironman. If you don't agree, fuck you, you're a pussy.
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by making EVERYONE evil on Earth II. How can you have a society where EVERYONE is evil, except maybe in Arab countries,
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When one comes out, critics jizz all over it, then when the next one comes out they jizz all over that one but recant their gushing ovber the last one by saying "it was just ok" or "it didn't grab me, but this new one is amazing"I did some script work on the wonder woman film and have also seen this film, and i have to say they are all excellent, even the much lauded superman doomsday
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So the Earth 2 Arabs would be good, then. And... don't be racist. There's an Arab family 2 doors down from me and their the friendliest, best neighbors I've ever had. (Doubtful that they're extradimensional immigrants, too)
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Harry: You thought that the Star Trek episode with the gangster planet ("A Piece of the Action") influenced the Crime Syndicate? Actually, the Crime Syndicate first appeared in JLA#29 (1964), so it predates Star Trek completely. Actually, "Mirror, Mirror" (with evil Kirk, etc.) is a closer match to the Earth-3/Crime Syndicate world, though I'm sure Jerome Bixby didn't need JLA to inspire him.
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But the Green Lantern one was ass. Seems like the producers of Warners/DCU Animated have forgotten all the lessons they learned in the 90's-early 00's. The animation is over-rendered, figures are awkward and the writing and plots generally suck. Sad, really.
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The Wonder Woman movie was the best of all the DC animated movies thus far -- I was really pleasantly surprised, since DC has never handled the character very well. Too bad WB is too dense to do the same thing with a live-action movie.
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where every super hero movie doesn't have a "Choir of Doom" as the sound bed.
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COOL!! http://www.comicbookmovie.com/spider-man_movies/news/?a=13943
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I still say Wonder Woman is clearly better than any of theother films - and I have enjoyed those immensely. But Wonder Woman is like the difference between the Majors and Double A ball.
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Have they announced the next DTV DC movie? Is it too much to hope for a great Flash one? Just adapt anything from Waid's run, hopefully Terminal Velocity.
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You know very well that if there is no Anti-monitor, there is no Crisis on Infinite Earths. They'd done dozens of these stories prior to COIE, and this is just another one of them.
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The Crime Syndicate first appeared in Justice League of America Nos. 29 and 30 in 1964, which predates Mirror Mirror and the Chicago Thugs episode referenced in the story. I believe Star Trek's first episode debuted in 1967, although Roddenberry had worked on the idea for a while.
Anyway, parallel and semi parallel dimensions didn't originate in JLA or Star Trek. They had been a plot device in science fiction tales since at least the 1940s and well probably before.
The two-issue story was the second team-up of the JLA and the Justice Society.
Morrison adapted the Original for his Earth 2 graphic novel.
A DC Comics Presents Annual from the early 1980s featuring Ultra Man also influenced Morrison and probably this story on the DVD. It featured at good Lex Luthor coming to Earth 1, seeking the help of Superman. -
This is a deluxe version of my favourite episode of the Justice League animated series from 2003ish. I agree, there's nothing better with superheroes than alternate universe or alternate takes on them...because shit can happen!
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It was pretty good then.
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Disliked Public Enemies but liked that horrible Green Lantern movie? Oh man, that's rich.
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But don't tell Geoege Bush. He thinks they're all e-vil.
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But don't tell Geoege Bush. He thinks they're all e-vil.
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But I really hated Green Lantern: First Flight. It seemed hollow, and had a weak plot. I thought Wonder Woman was good as well as New Frontier, but GL:FF, meh at best.
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Public Enemies was dynamic, exciting, colorful, and perfectly captured the Superman/Batman dynamic. Plus, not all animated superhero ventures have to involve complex storytelling. And, of course, it was fantastic to see Daly and Conroy reunited.
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...super-hammy voice acting. I liked all the other movies except Superman/Doomsday.
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All the rest have been just OK....REALLY hoping they do something with Green Arrow next...how bout an animated version of the Kevin Smith story? Or better yet,the old Green Arrow/Green Lantern stories by Denny O'Neil and Neal Adams...racisim,crooked politicians,super-heroes dealing with a failing economy and pollution...talk about some timeless issues that are still relevant today!!!!
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Bruce Wayne' older brother on that Earth who saw his brother and mother killed and blames his father, who happens to be the police commissioner of their world's Gotham City.
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...why was Green Lantern: First Flight so bad again? I can't quite remember anything particularly negative about it.
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I loved it. I remember everyone loving it when it came out. Now it sucks? Huh?
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I liked it...most folks consider it the second-best of all the animated features so far. I think it goes Wonder Woman,Green Lantern,Public Enemies and New Frontier are kinda tied,Batman Gotham Knight and then at the bottom of the barrel is Superman:Doomsday.
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is Ultraman, Superwoman, Power Ring, Jonny Quick, Owlman, Red Arrow
The Justice LORDS are the JLA dopplegangers with the same names. -
how deliciously EVIL!! why not The Injustice League while we're being so brutally honest and not trying to justify our illegal activities with a more noble sounding name.i guess one doesn't have to worry about that sort of thing when most of your members have superpowers. still, why not just "the syndicate".i thought names like the legion of doom and the sinister six had become a thing of the past. where's skeletor at? that guy loves being EEEEEEVILLLLL!!
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Still the best voices with the most richly developed DC universe outside of the comics to date. These stand-alone releases would be immensely enhanced by linking them to the TAS universe (Although I realize then they wouldn't necessarily be stand-alone). You would gain continuity of character and design (each new DVD movie is slightly different and distances the audience for a while until they adjust.) with no loss of story telling. Even if you keep the references to the changes in the TAS universe to a minimum, the overall depth of the world would be evident on the screen and in the story. Plus you pull in jerk-arses like myself who can't let the series go. Yeah! Yeah!
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Everything about it was awful, particularly the visual style and the voices. Though, I'll freely admit that I went in somewhat biased to the voices used in Justice League and JLU, so I had major issues with the changed voices (especially J'onn J'onzz) and the way it altered the personalities of those characters. I positively hated the whole thing and would rank it at the very bottom, even beneath Batman: Gotham Knight which I felt was horribly uneven and jarring in style and storytelling.
I haven't seen Public Enemies yet, but I'd say Green Lantern was probably the best - and pretty much exactly what the live action movie should have been (except for the ending) - with Wonder Woman being very close and even occasionally slipping into my #1 slot. -
Criticisms I heard about Green Lantern: First Flight was that the origin was rushed, Hal took to being a GL too easily, the intro to Oa was rushed, wacky Guardians, underdeveloped characterisation, more about Sinestro than Hal...I had some of these problems first watching it but watching it again I enjoy it, not that deep but fun. A short running time does affect the characterisation, but these cartoons usually do go straight to the action.
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I think this movie does Flash and GL well, at least we get a fleshed out story esp. with Hal Jordan. When I first watched it I was a bit upset with how little screen time Wonder Woman and Superman got. Martian Manhunter's intro was rushed too but I like the retro feel of the whole thing.
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Kevin Conroy is Batman, why are they doing half of these animated features with him and the others without, doesnt make any sense!
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It's Kevin Conroy or no one, as far as I'm concerned. Why these moronic producers feel the need to replace the beloved originals with pathetic "big name" ringers is beyond me, but it annoys the hell out of me.
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Jan 19, 2010 7:04:24 AM CST
AVATAR HAS BEEN PULLED FROM 1,628 CHINESE THEATRES!?! WTF!?!
by tehcreepythinman
The communist nation's state-run movie distributor, China Film Group, unexpectedly began pulling the blockbuster science-fiction picture from 1,628 2-D screens this week in favor of a biography of the ancient philosopher Confucius. Paul Hanneman, co-president of international distribution for 20th Century Fox, the movie's distributor, confirmed the move, which the studio learned about Monday evening. According to the Hong Kong newspaper Apple Daily, the switch was made at the urging of propaganda officials who are concerned that "Avatar" is taking too much market share from Chinese films and drawing unwanted attention to the sensitive issue of forced evictions. Millions of Chinese have been uprooted to make way for high-rise buildings and government infrastructure projects in the fast-growing country. In "Avatar," human colonists try to demolish the village of an alien race to obtain a precious energy source buried under it. http://www.thenewstribune.com/apheadlines/outdoors/story/1034148.html
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Though I hope your wrong about it not being as good as New Frontier and GL First Flight. Sure those movies are good (despite what the assholes haters say on this talk back), but they are also very flawed. The former is a clearly rushed adaptation that feels overly crowded and underdeveloped. The later, while fun, contains exactly zero character motivation for Hal Jordan. Of the bunch Wonder Woman is still the most complete, and by far the best, with Public Enemies being the worst (thats what happens when you use a shitty Jeff Leob story as a basis for your movie).
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The Crime Syndicate first appeared two years before Star Trek came on the air so I doubt the writers were influenced by that Chicago Mobsters episode.
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Yes, Wonder Woman is the most complete origin story. In "Green Lantern: First Flight", Hal spends very little time on Earth, he leaves quickly and then it's mostly Oa. (I do like that yellow power battery planet Qward with the bugs.) Public Enemies is nice to look at but yes contains fight after fight and Superman isn't very likeable or sympathetic (he mostly sneers and punches.) I like the end fight in "Superman: Doomsday" and I grew to like Gotham Knight more- segments like Deadshot, but stuff like the first story is a bit groanworthy.
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Why does it get so much props?
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If you use Luthor you have to use him with care. In good hands, he's the best character ever, in bad hands he's fuckin annyoing. Of course Public Enemies was based on that piece of shit Loeb story...
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Cool! "The Spectre" thing looks like it may be entertaining in an old-school pulpy sort-of way...
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Jan 19, 2010 9:04:27 AM CST
Actually, how awesome would it be to get an animated Shadow...
by fa_tass_dinomolester
From Timm and Dini? The 1994 film was fun, but didn't capture the spirit of the old radio show.
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completely lacked any depth or narrative, besides "watch Supes and Bats punch shit for 90 minutes". I have to agree, I wish these new installments took place in the DCAU. Although, Major Force made for kind-of a cool villain.
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I think New Frontier gets props because it is one of the few Justice League stories that references the history of the League and takes their teaming up seriously and puts it in some context. Although maybe it doesn't necessarily achieve that moment where we see why these separate superheroes decide to form this organisation and work together (as I said Superman, WW and even Batman aren't as important in the final fight.) But it still has a lot of references from comics history, and real life history.
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Jan 19, 2010 9:16:50 AM CST
Also, Keith David was a pretty damn good villain
by fa_tass_dinomolester
In New Frontier. That guy doesn't get enough work. He's like an EVEN MORE evil-sounding James Earl Jones.
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Shadow Man. BY FAR the best part of the movie. YEa, he is awesome. Disney really should have done more with the Gargoyles. That was great.
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...cant your whole universe collapse and just be left wit the cool heroes...ya know, not the god heroes that have every imaginable power even though none of them correlate to each other (xray vision and super speed?)...those aliens/gods/supernatural creatures/etc are ruinin the cool concepts like Green Arrow and Batman...I hate DC, but DC did bring us the greatest hero and villain ever, Batman and the Joker!
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...a Joker movie? seriously DC, he is one of your bigger assets (more so than Superman in my opinion) and I know ya can make monies of it...just get Luke back in the studio and boo ya!
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Where's the last three weeks of DVD columns?
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is "Batman: Under the Hood."
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I finally got around to seeing Green Lantern and I enjoyed it. Some cheesy dialogue, but it was fun. I didnt enjoy Wonder Woman as much, maybe Ill have to watch it again.
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nuff said
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nuff said
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changed the shadow because people couldnt see what was going on read the pulp stories the shadow is a hard boiled detective who is a master of disguise and voice and uses guns the only prob with the 94 movie is that they mixed the radio show and the pulps together, when they shouldve just done away with the radio storyline but ya, an animated shadow might work
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and marvel has such a hard time?
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Wherever he does a cartoon voiceover it totally takes me out of the movie. His voice is way too recognizable. I won't be able to just sit back and let the character sink in.
I mean, it's funny when he plays himself (see The Simpsons & Clerks: The Animated Series), but I think his voice will hurt my enjoyment of the Justice League flick. -
I mean, when you own one of the oldest institutions of animation greatness, it's not too hard to pull it off.
Maybe now that Marvel is partnered with the OTHER oldest institution of animated greatness, we can get some decent animated Marvel movies? -
Jan 19, 2010 1:53:56 PM CST
GL, New Frontier and Public Enemies are the BEST DC DVDs, the wo
by davdaman
...Batman Gotham Knight and Superman Doomsday.
GL and New Frontier each have minor flaws, but are largely faithful to the source material, and contain the same strengths.
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It had nice segments here and there, but overall, it was awful. Still, I expect I'll really like this Crisis one. I certainly loved the GL and WW ones.
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had a neat take on The Batman, with Jeremy Sisto doing a pretty good interpretation. The rest of the movie was kinda the short form. I thought it was meh. I agree with the poster above that a "Shadow" movie would be great if done as a PG 13 animated feature.
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James Cameron has just released the first of three crappy Prequels to Avatar in fully immersive holodeck toucharama.
"James Cameron just raped my childhood." -
Public Enemies was the best.
But, I guess we've already established that you know very little about comic books, so why should we expect you to accurately judge spin-offs of them? -
were ok. Each had their charms and their missteps. Even the Superman ones, which were more missteps. No one seems to be mentioning the one before Doomsday, with a slapstick Lex and Brainiac. Probably a reason for that.
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screener! hummm (runs off to isohunt and mininova)
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Batman The Red Hood. Is this known yet? If not, now you do.
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the best thing about New Frontier; I think the reason it left some of us cold was the ridiculous "villian" for viewers like myself who hadn't read the source material; they just didn't lay in enough background or explanation for why a giant ball of prehistoric creatures suddenly shows up (see how crazy that sounds?) Public Enemies, however, was freakin' flawless and light years ahead of anything else they've done so far. It was pure entertainment.
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This is the first DC animated film I really have no interest in seeing.
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smallville's green arrow is SPOT FUCKING ON.
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brilliant art, story almost there, rushed ending. New Frontier the animated movie, huge let down, rushed.
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stuff, like Warlord or Amethyst of Gemworld. A Justice League DCAU The Question would be cool, as well.
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or Mike Grell era, Longbow Hunters and later.
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Any property of theirs out of the ordinary, instead of just cameos and homage in their mainstream toons.
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on your mom.
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Just watched it last night on Netflix Instant. maybe I'm too old to enjoy cartoons like this, but it wasn't very good. Not enough time given to any particular hero, including Green Lantern even though this was basically his origin story. Well, his and whoever the alien guy was. Also, did not see the amazing artwork that Harry raved about.
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I'm definitely TEAM CONROY as far as the voice of Batman is concerned, it just doesn't get any better than Kevin Conroy! That being said, I think they almost had it right in New Frontier; they had the right actors but in the wrong parts; they should've switched Miguel Ferrer & Jeremy Sisto around w/Ferrer as Batman & Sisto as The Martian Manhunter! Go back & listen again & tell me that I'm wrong.
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nice
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Please tell me Hamill's involved.
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The good news; It's actually good from the voice acting to the story which is based off Hudlin's run.The bad news: it's based on the comic..litterly! It's like those superimposed Marvel cartoons back in the sixties, only difference is more animation has been implemented.Marvel should have paid more to get serious animation for this like they did for previous series; wolverine and the xmen, iron man armored adventures,etc.Then again, since it's on BET, it shouldn't "matter".
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Haven't we seen this a million times? Brave and the Bold did this last season and I saw this in the archives as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jQAQml8ys&feature=related
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That show kicked ass..All the new direct to DVD releases have been fair at best.
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But that's just me.
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Watched it and was totally blown away by everything except the voices. There is no replacing Kevin Conroy, EVER! That said, everything else is superb in this flick, the story is compelling, the key art for the animation way better than the bloated crap they did for the SUPERMAN/BATMAN Public Enemies feature, and the best thing of all is the fight sequences, they just get better and better as they go along! 9/10 easy!
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This thing started out with one of the other Earth's heroes getting a flaming sword throught he heart which gave me hope for a Watchmen type of story. This was bullshit though... It quickly just backed away to the boring safety of hand to hand combat with no effects, or blood or anything... What a fucking boring story... yawn!!!
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don't know if want.
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Well you're getting the point of the two mixed up! Watchmen i written to show you the futility in the existence of the Superhero. It exists outside the DC Universe that Supes and Batman etc reside in which is a universe that's purpose is to present you the benefit of the existence of Superheroes. That's why this animated feature of a comic that first appeared in the 60's should not deliver any type of "Watchmen" type story, not a chance in hell. You obviously got off on the wrong perception and killed any chance of appreciating this for exactly what it is. An adaptation of a classic DCU comic event.
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Definately good, better than most Marvel animated. The Spectre totally fucking rocked! He accomplished in 11 minutes what it took spawn a season to do. The spectre is bad ass!
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The target one with bonus disc with the legends episodes of jlu or the bestbuy one with owlman toy?
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Though Batman got his ass kicked regularly throughout the film... there was nobody he could even come close to taking down, even his Earth 2 counterpart was wearing power armor. And Billy Baldwin's voice wasn't powerful enough to sell Batman. Mark Harmon was a good Superman... kind of. He was definitely a Superman who was sure of himself, intelligent, and in command, but a lot of that was in the script. Wonder Woman was also depicted in a very cool way. The evil Superwoman and Owlman really stole the show for me though. Especially Superwoman, sexy, evil, brutal... pretty cool stuff. You haters can suck it. LOL.
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