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Harry is in a post-post-apocalyptic badass glow after THE BOOK OF ELI!

Now I know that I just threw an event for THE BOOK OF ELI last night, but I was actually kinda pessimistic about the whole affair. The trailers have never captured me for the film. The only thing that it was really selling me was Denzel Washington as a badass walking the Earth having a series of adventures whilst protecting the last known copy of The Holy Bible. Which, as I just typed that, should have clued me into how cool this film could have been, but I was just stumbling intellectually with the issue of Denzel Washington, badass. I don't think we think of Denzel as a badass. He always comes across as calculated. As an intellect. He's a thinking man, not an intuitive motherfucker that will do some Han Solo/Indiana Jones shit. You don't think of Denzel as a LONE WOLF & CUB type... or as a ZATOICHI or HANZO type. Oh, I know you'll bring up MAN ON FIRE in the talk backs, but frankly I don't believe I ever thought Denzel was a badass, so much as thinking how fucked up all the situations were and wondering what doctor prescribed Ritalin for Tony Scott. That said, I like Denzel. He's a strong actor, who too often is cast in a variation of about 3 characters. This is not one of those characters. This Denzel isn't filled with witty repartee, this Denzel is a man of senses & instinct. In this sun bleached post-Apocalypse which has pretty much left the world to ruin, there is a path he's following. Remember the badass tired old knight from that third INDY flick? Well, imagine if God assigned you a task. To take a holy covenant by foot across a land filled with the sorts of fuckers that we are all too familiar with from films like A BOY & HIS DOG and ROAD WARRIOR. I love the notion of a man headed West to deliver forth the last known existing copy of the Bible. Now, the mere concept of the last known BIBLE of the Post-Apocalypse... well, I find it fascinating. Apparently at some point in history - after a cataclysm - there was a Religious War that was all about destroying Religion. Bibles were sought, found and burnt. I can't even imagine religious zealotry getting so bad, that a war would be fought to eradicate the very memory of Christianity, but at the same time, I think I can imagine it. All of that happened long before the start of this film. Guys in their 50s can remember the time before, but there's few of them. I've seen a lot of folks that believe Denzel is set upon a path to save humanity through the preservation of the King James Bible, but I'm not entirely sure that's the case. Watch the film, see the ending, and you tell me if you think the BIBLE will unite and bind the leftovers of humanity or... Well, you'll see. I also love Gary Oldman's character. At a surface level, he's just that bad guy in that town, who is bad news. However, he seems to be a man with a dream. He wants to bring back communities and towns. He remembers from his youth, the motivational and binding power of preachers who used this Book. A Book that started a war that left people in rubble, uneducated, cannibalistic in places and blind due to the sun's power after we punched a hole through our sky. He knows he has the strength to lead, if only he had the power of the word of God. He knows the book contains hope, fear and the power to make people believe - and he wishes to use the power of the Book to bring people together, to remind them of the simple rules of how to live, how to care for one another - and the belief in eternal salvation. So when this stranger, this walker comes striding into his little town, that Gary rules through fear and strength of arms... I don't blame him for a second. He wants the book because he wants to bring people together, to end the insanity which is existence in the apocalypse. Denzel on the other hand hears voices that he thinks is God, while on some arbitrary quest to head WEST. I don't know. I kinda side with Gary. I think he's willing to try to use the good book for a degree of good. BUT... at the same time. If you believe that God is sending you on a quest to deliver forth his word... Well, I think Denzel must probably be either a delusional homocidal drifter driven by some psychotic believe in a higher power that has bestowed upon him a higher purpose. Or the guy that is trying to build a community. Pick your side. Of course, if you side with Gary Oldman, he'll let you fuck Mila Kunis... so it is only natural that all sane men side with Gary. So that's why Ray Stevenson is a badass. He's willing to hunt Denzel's Eli if and only if he gets to get Mila Kunis. Now that's character motivation. OK. So why does the movie kick ass? First off, it is beautifully shot, exquisitely edited and it has a swagger that makes you get giddy. The fight scenes tend to be made up of longer shots filled with real time badassery. There's one sequence where you'll see heads popping off like me in a peep show. The ejaculatory glee with which Denzel dispatches his enemy... well it reminds me not of Western heroes, but of the wandering Samurai stories that I love even more. This is a Post-Apocalyptic Samurai on a Mission from God! THAT IS COOL! Ok, so apparently God isn't cool to some, but dang it. That never stopped me from loving INDY when he shut his eyes, put his faith in God and missed one hell of a killer light show! Now - watch out while reading the talkback below, there will be spoilers aplenty, and there's a lot of stuff that you shouldn't want to know about the film. On Twitter last night, I confessed that I greatly prefer this film to THE ROAD. Now, let me quantify that. Before I saw the film, a friend told me that he'd read that another online critic said that if you loved THE ROAD, you'll hate THE BOOK OF ELI. Well, I loved THE ROAD, but prefer THE BOOK OF ELI. You see, THE ROAD is a film filled with more gut-punching emotion than THE BOOK OF ELI has. THE ROAD has more pure intellect. That said, I take very little enjoyment from THE ROAD. It is a film that puts a knife in your gut and watches you bleed. It is a powerful film. A contemplative film. One that makes you question what each of us would do in a similar situation, and in asking us to face our own existence in the years following the apocalypse... it is depressing. THE BOOK OF ELI is not depressing. This film is about the healing that would take place after the end has come. How people would attempt to reform communities, trade, life, etc. How we'd go back to a degree of the Old West. How others would attempt to recreate other bastions of modern civilization. But more than anything, it is a cautionary tale about not fucking with a badass on a mission from God. This is something that film has repeatedly taught us. This is our first film from the Hughes Brothers since their experience in the Fox meat grinder that resulted in a less than satisfactory rendition of FROM HELL. Every second of this film is proof of why we need more work from them on a regular basis. They are incredibly gifted filmmakers. Now someone, give them PIPPI LONGSTOCKINGS!

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  • Jan. 15, 2010, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Harry you a fan of Mila ?

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Didn't Miyazaki wanna make a Pippi movie?

    by kungfuhustler84

    I remember some character sketches. I'd watch it.<p>Oh and I'll rent this eventually.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 7:14 p.m. CST

    Disagree about the badass thing

    by Cinemanimetal

    When I think of Denzel the first word that comes to my mind is Badass. I agree has never really played a Zatoichi type action character, but everything he does, whether it be calculated as you say screams badass to me.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 7:18 p.m. CST

    by Gwynplaine

    "Now I know that I just threw an event for THE BOOK OF ELI last night." You lost me there. I'll go and watch The Road Warrior and a Boy and his dog again instead, thank you.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 7:18 p.m. CST

    So the story is the opposite of the Star Trek future

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    We have to believe in fairytales to behave civilzed and act human, to have hope? <p>

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 7:20 p.m. CST

    The Last Bible ?

    by Gwynplaine

    Who cares?

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 7:27 p.m. CST


    by enough22

    Once again, FUCK YOU for not having the dvd section up and ready. Two weeks in a row. FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU and FUCK YOU!

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 7:38 p.m. CST

    Denzel can't play a Badass?

    by Alphanumeric1971


  • Jan. 15, 2010, 7:41 p.m. CST

    The trailers for this look AWFUL.

    by Ironhelix

    But I'm hearing good things (I mean besides Harry review, which I don't even consider)... maybe I'll check it out.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 7:53 p.m. CST

    better script

    by deadwrestlers123

    The show opens live from Hell Arena as we join our announce team Rick Rude and Gorilla Monsoon. Rude: Welcome everybody to Dead Wrestling Incorperation, This is DWI Overdose! Gorilla i am excited about what is about to go down here tonite! How ya feeling Monsoon? Monsoon: Dead Rude: i think we pretty much all feel that way, haha. lets head to the ring where the action is about to go down Crash Holly vs. Test vs. Chris Candido vs Crush (Fatal Four Way, Pills on a Pole Match) Crash Enters, but pukes on his way to the ring Monsoon: Oh My, Crash just puked! Rude: Yeah, well atleast his awake this time, no chance of choking on it. Test, Candido and Crush enter the ring Rick Rude: For the viewers at home, im gonna give you a quick rundown of the stipulations for this match, four men will enter the ring, on the 4 corners of the ring are poles, on top of each pole is a bag filled with painkillers, the first wrestler to climb the pole and bring down the bag of pills wins the match. Randy"Pee Wee" Anderson checks the wrestlers, and signals for the fight to begin. Test and Crush exchange punches, as do Candido and Holly. Test powerbombs crush and clotheslines the other 2. Test gets 2 tables and stacks them on top of one another, grabs Candido, as Crash goes to the apron. Crush comes over and Test and Crush double chokeslam Candido through the table as Crash fly off the apron with an elbow. The Cameras pan to Candidos leg, that appears to have been fractured in 2 places. Rude: THAT WAS RAVISHING! Monsoon: This isnt the pure technical wrestling I was involved in, wheres a classic chicken wing? When me and Gorgeous Geo- Rude: Go f*ck yourself Gorilla, back to the action in the ring! Test slams Crush into the Barricade. Crash Holly is freebasing cocaine in the the corner. Candido notices his leg, and turns into a wildman. Candido NEEDS these pills. Rude: Ive seen that look before, it reminds me of how Bossman used to get when he couldnt get his pills, didnt he feed Al Snow a dog and steal Big Shows fathers casket Monsoon: He Sure Did! Gifted Talent, Gifted Talent Rude: One of the best in the business Candido takes a splinter from the broken tables and drives it into the chest of Crush, then takes Crash's pipe and throws it into the crowd. Crash runs into the crowd punching fans. It leaves Test and a hobbled Candido left in the ring, as a bloody Crush lays dying. Rude: Test and Candido are the last 2 standing, WHO WILL GET THE PAIN PILLS! Candido pulls a gun that he had hidden in his trunks and shoots Test in the face. Monsoon: Thats against the rules! thats an illegal object! Rude: This was a no DQ match, a gun is not against the rules! Candido climbs the pole grasping his leg and grabs the bags of pills. Then to next 3 corners and has all four bag of pills. Candido proceeds to swallow all of the pills, and goes into shock and then seizure and dies in the ring. Rude: Candido won! but things seem to be taking a turn for the worst. We head into commercial breaks as EMTS try to pump Candidos stomach, Test lays dead from a gunshot wound, a pale-white Crush hemmoraging, and Crash rabidly attacking the fans. ::Commercial Break:: Rude: Welcome Back to DWI Overdose! We have Mike Awesome against The Renegade in a Mississippi Noose Match. The rules are simple, there are nooses hanging from the Titantron, the first wrestler to climb the Titantron and hang himself wins the match! Monsoon: I remember when we used to just go out there and show our athleticism and use the proper holds. Like when me and Lou The- Rude: Choke on a c*ck and die already old man, this is sports entertainment, we let our guys go out there, punish themselves physically and mentally, throw them away like trash, and when theyre out of the limelight, abuse drugs and slowly slip into insanity until they hurt themselves or others. THIS IS WHAT WRESTLING IS ALL ABOUT!! I LOVE IT!!! Rude does line of coke to keep this party going Monsoon is confused Mike Awesome vs. The Renegade ( Mississippi Noose Match) Both men enter the ring, A stare-down ensues. Both look unstable. Mike Awesome punches Renegade. Renegade thrives on the pain and seems to enjoy it. Renegade slams Mike Awesome to the ground and starts biting his leg. ::Weird Asian Music Plays:: Rude: Whats this! David Carridine runs down to the ring in a referee shirt! Rude: David Carradine is the suprise Guest Referee!! Renegade takes a chair, as does Mike Awesome. Rather than hit their opponent they start hitting themselves with the chairs. Carradine sticks his hands down his pants. Both men lay bleeding, Awesome stands up and starts walking up the entrance ramp. Renegade chases after hit and delivers a ddt. Renegade starts climbing the Titantron. ::Lame 80"s Music plays:: Out come the Von Erich Brothers, all with guns in hand. Renegade starts putting the noose over his head. Carradine, close to climax, screams with joy, The Von Erichs count to 3 and then fire the pistols at their heads. All drop in unison. Renegade then dives from the Titantron and snaps his neck. Rude: RENEGADE WINS!! Mike Awesome looks around and sees the dead Von Erichs, and Renegade hanging from the stage. Mike Awesome climbs the Titantron and hangs himself as well. Carradine is jumping for joy at the sight, and proceeds to start climbing Rude: Whats Carridine doing! Carridine hangs himself. Camera pans out and the destruction in the arena is shocking Rude: We'll be right back with more Overdose! :: Commercial Break:: Rude: Welcome back folks (sound of Rude snorting a line, speech is faster) WE GOTTA,GOT,GOTTA, B-B-BIG MATCH UP NEXT! SH*T, UH UM WRESTLING EH WRESTLING Monsoon: Why dont you let me take this from here Rick Rude: Dont judge me Monsoon!!!who are you huh? who are you? Monsoon: Up next is Bam Bam Bigelow, Umaga and Yokozuna in a triple threat match. Bam Bam Bigelow vs. Umaga vs Yokozuna The three men enter the ring. All three start to run at one another but pause, stop, and fall to the ground. Referee Randy Anderson checks all three men, waves his hands and signals for the bell. Rick Rude: DEAD, GORILLA, DEAD, ALL THREE HAHA! WOAH! Monsoon: Im getting word right now that all three men have suffered major heart attacks, it appears that they are no longer with us Rick Rude: GREAT NIGHT, GREAT NIGHT, LOVE IT, YA KNOW LOOOOOVE IT! YEAH! Public Enemy and Road Warrior Hawk vs Brian Pillman, British Bulldog, and The Blue Blazer The Blue Blazers music plays, but he does not walk down the entrance way Rude: LOOK UP TO THE ROOF, BLUE BLAZER! As he says that a sound of cable breaking rings out, Blue Blazer comes rocketing down to ring. Rude: Gotta love this Action! Blazer hits his head on the ring post and his neck snaps in half. EMTs rush in and cart him away. Bulldogs music plays, as does Pillman, Hawks, and Public Enemys, but no one enters the ring. Monsoon: Where is everybody? as he says that the camera cuts to a split view of the two teams locker rooms. Pillman and Bulldog are lying still with needles in their arms, Hawk, Rocco Rock and Johnny Grunge are surrounded by beer cans and baggies of cocaine. All appear to be dead Rick Rude: Looks like some good stuff they got going on back there, im just mad nobody invited me, haha, right Gorilla? Monsoon: I remember when we ate suger for a good pickup before a match, like when me and Verne Gagn- Rude: NO ONE CARES! OKAY!? NO ONE CARES! IT WAS 50 F*UCKING YEARS AGO! OKAY!? OKAY!? Mr Perfect's Music Plays Mr Perfect walks to the ring with a gym bag, and grabs a mic Mr. Perfect: Theres alot of guys in the back that think they can go toe to toe with me, think they can hang with the big boys, but theyre wrong. Im perfect and they simply are not. Shooting basketballs, I win, doing pushups, I win, and the thing Mr Perfect is best at.......IS THIS! Mr Perfect reaches into his gym bag and display a large bag of cocaine. Mr. Perfect: So im throwing out an open challenge, anyone in this arena that wants to go toe to toe, or should i say line for line, with Perfection, then step into this ring right now! Ric Flairs music plays Ric Flair: Mr. Pefect, WOOOO! You didnt know I was in this building, The Limosuine Driving, Jumbojet Flying, Cocaine Lining, son of bitch, WOOOO The Nature Boy Ric WOOOOO Flair! Ring crew sets up a table and two chairs in the ring, and the two legends go at it. Rude licks his lips Rude (salivating): this one is hard to call, ive seen these boys blow back many a line in my time in the business, Flair and Perfect go back and forth for 20 minutes, line after line. Perfect seems off, Flair unfazed. Rude: Things are heating up! Perfect clutches his chest and falls backwards out of his chair and lays cunvulsing on the mat. Randy Anderson checks Perfect and declares that he is indeed dead. Flair invites Roddy Piper to the ring, they finish off the remaining cocaine, Dance and run around and leave Rude: that may have been the most impressive thing i have ever seen in a wrestling ring. two legends going at it, but as we all know, to be the man you gotta beat the man, and Flair is simply unbeatable in a cocaine-off. ::commercial break:: Rude: Welcome Back to DWI OVERDOSE! Up next is the main event, the rematch we have all been waiting for......In a handicap match......The Rabid Wolverine.....The Canadian Crippler......Chris Benoit...............against his wife and son Nancy and Daniel Benoit!!! A good ol' family feud!!! Monsoon: This is in extremely poor taste, this company is sick. Rude: This is Sport Entertainment Gorilla!! Change with the time old man, this is entertainment! Like Vince bringing Pillman widow do and interview the day after her husband died, or Vince making Eddie Guerrero's widow a whore on national T.V., this is wrestling Gorilla, there is no such thing as poor taste, death is ratings, and ratings is money, its as simple as that. If these guys die, so what we'll replace em with a whole new lineup of guys to destroy. I LOVE IT! Chris Benoit vs. Nancy and Daniel Benoit Chris picks up the pace early clotheslining his wife and young son Rude: Daniel is not only 7 years old, but hes also retarded, If im the Crippler, i take advantage of this and capitalize on his weaknesses Chris grabs a chair and repeatedly beats his wife with it. Rude: Chris has opened up a cut on Nancy. He this goes under the ring and gets a table. He sits his young son on the top rope and SUPERPLEX! through the table. He switches his focus on Nancy and delivers a few more chair shots, and goes under the apron and get a sack of thumbtacks. He covers the mat with thumbtacks and grabs his wife from behind. German suplex!, he holds on, German suplex!, holds on again and German Suplex! Rude: Chris just did his trademark triple german suplex to his wife Nancy on thumbtacks! This is Sports Entertainment at its BEST! Chris then grabs his son and set him on the spanish announce table. Climbs to the top rope. and Diving Headbutt through the table!!!! He goes under the apron once again and gets a barbedwire baseball bat. He then savagely beats his wifes body until she is laying lifeless in the ring covered in blood. THE CROWD GOES WILD! Benoit then grabs his son Daniel and CRIPPLER CROSSFACE!!!!!!!!. he locks on the the hold and pulls back hard, Pee Wee Anderson checks if Daniel wants to tap, he does not Rude: Its possible that Daniel doesnt understand what Pee Wee is asking him. He is 7, Retarded and has been put through 2 tables...... Benoit pulls back harder and harder until the boy is now longer breathing. Pee Wee checks Daniel, and he is indeed dead. the bell sounds and The Rabid Wolverine stands with his arms raised covered in his wife and sons blood and the crowd chants his name as the camera fades to black.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 7:53 p.m. CST

    I'll judge for myself

    by PorkChopXpress

    I can't trust the AICN writers anymore. I read that interview with Mila and was shocked at how free of any insights or...actual questions it was. Now every single writer here is at pains to level any criticism at it. I'm having a real hard time buying it.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 7:58 p.m. CST

    This movie is reminding me of FALLOUT 3.

    by Orionsangels

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Mila Kunis is in it. Gary Oldman is the villain. How can u go wr

    by Orionsangels

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 8:01 p.m. CST


    by Gwynplaine

    Yeah, stick to the DVD section, please Harry.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 8:05 p.m. CST

    I saw it. I moved on

    by jpainting

    STORY LINE SPOILERS I really wanted to see this movie. I saw it this morning, 1135am in Austin, in an almost sold out movie theater. So obviously others wanted to see it too. I didn't really know what to expect. The trailers say that Denzel has a book that could save mankind. That's all I wanted to know. I was enthralled. Yet I left the theater not sure if I liked the movie or if it annoyed me. And that is a bad sign. Denzel is awesome, as usual. Gary Oldman is great. Take his role in The Professional, remove the drugs and dial it down a notch, and that's his character. Cool, calm, but he knows what he wants and he will kill you to get it. But the movie itself is shot like it is The Assassination of Jesse James in the future. Slow mo, art house colors, preachy (pardon the pun). The movie would only have been one hour if they didn't show Denzel walking in slow mo. And the story? There is no story. It's 30 years after the "end of the world". Denzel is a man walking west with a book. He doesn't know where he is going. He is just walking. And that's the whole story. It's like a few days in the life of a lone badass. Some people get in his way, he kills them. Some people want what is his, he won't let them have it. That's it. Big deal. There is nothing to it that would make me say, "go see this movie". It is a rental, or a bootlegged-on-your-computer movie. Nothing more.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 8:15 p.m. CST

    Sounds good!

    by vezner2007

    Thanks for the recommendation Harry!

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 8:18 p.m. CST

    Denzel wasn't badass in Training Day.

    by Gwynplaine

    He was just bad. He was actually better in the awful Pelham 123. Probably the best and only good thing about that film.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 8:24 p.m. CST


    by BranMakMorn

    Don't read any spoilers... just see it. An entertaining film.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 8:28 p.m. CST

    I guess I can buy groups destroying the Bible.

    by drewlicious

    Fanatics are motivated no matter what they believe. I guess it would be like some sort of aetheist Hitler youth, "Give us the book or we"ll burn you with it." If enough people are dead who's going to get in your way?

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 8:32 p.m. CST

    maybe i'd care if you didnt like every single movie you screen

    by SlimButNotreally

    the only way to know if you're telling the truth is if you see a movie they dont send to you. every single movie you get early or on DVD or claim is great. easy pattern. this review is nonsense.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 8:40 p.m. CST

    Here's what I see coming...

    by Hipshot

    Denzel will get no nookie. As usual.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 8:54 p.m. CST

    Just saw the movie

    by peopleintrees

    I thought it was great. All the bible shit at the end didnt do anything for me though. Beautifully shot and the fight scenes were splendid. I have to be honest that i didnt think this movie would be any good because who cares about january movies right? Daybreakers and Book of Eli are pleasant suprises.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 8:55 p.m. CST

    Dear Harry,

    by Gwynplaine

    Stop writing about movies for a while. Distance yourself from Hollywood and films in general and come back in a few months with a fresh take and renewed perspective. Also if you can't handle the DVD, give it to one of your minions. Thank you.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 8:58 p.m. CST

    Ugh. Just go see The Road instead.

    by Rhuragh

    I've given up going to see crap like this.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 9:21 p.m. CST

    That movie was profoundly stupid. [SPOILERS]

    by Mostholy

    That film was flat-out terrible, Harry. Just didn't make any sense on so many levels. And I'm not even talking about the Shyamalan gotcha. The movie was already WAY off the rails by then.<br /><br /> So, we're what, 30 years after the nukes go off and EVERY SINGLE BIBLE but one has been destroyed? That doesn't make a lick of sense. So that would be akin to the 2% who managed to survive the blasts emerging from their holes and, for some bizarre reason, trying to destroy every single can of Coke on Earth.<br /><br /> So, tell me, after the nukes had dropped, how did the word go out -- all across the planet -- to destroy every Bible? Who was the poor irradiated bastard who had to schlep through every godforsaken Day's Inn and HoJo's on Earth destroying Gideon bibles?<br /><br /> Yes, this is sort of the plot of A CANTICLE FOR LEIBOWITZ, which is a very good book. But two points: CANTICLE takes place several centuries after the blasts, iirc. And the priests are trying to preserve scientific knowledge, not a book that's been reproduced millions and millions of times.<br /><br /> And besides, why did Gary Oldman need the Bible, per se, to have power in the town? What, he couldn't remember enough of it off-hand? Why didn't he just make something up? It's like he'd never heard of L. Ron Hubbard or DIANETICS.<br /><br /> Dumb, dumb, dumb. The only thing ELI had in its favor was the two Denzel machete-melees, the reunion of Dracula and Renfield, and Michael Gambon acting like he's on a dare or something. (Ok, Kunis is easy on the eyes also.) But the movie as a whole was idiotic.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 9:34 p.m. CST

    "stumbling intellectually"

    by cuttr

    Seriously Harry, you leave an opening like that?

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 9:39 p.m. CST

    the bibles werent destroyed by nuclear weapons

    by BMacSmith

    they were burned by people after they decided they were the cause of the war. <p>know what you are talking about before you make an ass of yourself

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 9:42 p.m. CST

    Mostholy- you're a lying dumbass, congratulations

    by BMacSmith

    you didnt even see it, yet you bash it and talk about shit that never happened. way to go, you lying sack.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 9:43 p.m. CST

    its not brilliant, but its a fun action flick

    by BMacSmith

    plus i love this postapocalyptic shit. the ads were embarassing and a few parts didnt make sense, but it was still a pretty brutal Fallout style movie. i'll give it a B-.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 9:44 p.m. CST


    by Mostholy

    I don't know if you're talking to me, but I didn't say they were all destroyed by nukes. Although that would've made about as much sense.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 9:45 p.m. CST


    by Mostholy

    You really need to work on your reading comprehension skills, dude.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 9:53 p.m. CST

    Cap fans so sorry

    by MacReady452

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 9:56 p.m. CST

    Have you seen that Cap poster Harry?

    by MacReady452

    I got more scoops than JettL93!!!

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 9:57 p.m. CST

    Harry - why didnt you review Holmes?

    by Human_Bean_Juice_

    Was lookin forward to your thoughts.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Too generous, Harry

    by Boxcutter

    This is by the numbers post-apocalyptic fodder with some pretty good actors and nice bleached out cinematography and whippy editing elevating sluggish and poorly thought out material.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 10:16 p.m. CST

    from hell sucked


    but seriously why do these hollywood types think its ok to go on years long hiatuses dont they know their sole purpose is to ENTERTAIN US. like what the fuck happened to joe pecci someone get on the phone with scorsese and lets make some shit happen god damnit!

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 10:18 p.m. CST

    and that daniel day lewis fuckwad


    that bitch needs to make more movies, wheres There Will Be Blood 2?

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 10:28 p.m. CST


    by SlappyMcNeal


  • Jan. 15, 2010, 10:38 p.m. CST

    It was decent, but that ending...


    That ending was pretty ridiculous.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 11:09 p.m. CST

    Harry, you totally missed the point of Oldman's character

    by Atticus Finch

    Were in the shitter or something? He said in the film that he wanted to use the Bible as a WEAPON. He yelled it, in fact. He didn't want it to do good for others. He was going to try to use the Bible to gain unlimited power over what was left of humanity.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 11:10 p.m. CST


    by Atticus Finch

    It should say were you in the shitter? From my last post. Sorry.

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 11:15 p.m. CST

    I Saw Both The Road And Book Off Eli Yesterday

    by Broseph

    I thought both were very good movies.harry's right about both movies.the roadwas far more bleak and depressing.there was scene towards the end that had me in tears i just couldn't hold back.i noticed the people in fron of me were both in tears as of eli i would say definitely leaves you feeling more optimistic and hopeful.and i finaly had my eyeballs fucked by avatar.Amazing

  • Jan. 15, 2010, 11:29 p.m. CST

    I thought it was amazing

    by sonnyfern

    It really was like a good old fashioned samurai movie! Great stuff! I really wanna see it again too, they really were dropping subtle hints through the whole movie. I wish the Hugh Brothers would make more freaking flicks.

  • Really cool, used to the editor of PC gamer in the US and the UK.

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 1:40 a.m. CST


    by BranMakMorn

    Yes. Check out the early scene at the shack. There's something there that looks like a blooper but actually fits the ending.

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 3:26 a.m. CST


    by cymbalta4thedevil

    I find it really amusing that Geeks have no trouble buying ANY random sci-fi premise, but have trouble believing a country as polarized as ours is RIGHT NOW over Religion and War and whether or not Climate Change is actually occurring might suffer some cataclysm related to... I dunno... Religion and War and Climate Change?<br /><br />"We Tore A Hole in the Sky."<br /><br /> "We Had More Than We Needed."<br /><br /> "We Threw Away Things People are Killing Each Other For Now."<br /><br /> To me the film never really specifies if we destroyed ourselves in a Religious War or if we destroyed our Enviornment because the Religious Right are among those insisting God would never let us do such a thing to his Creation. Or if Both Things Occurred. <br /><br />One might argue that people who cling to "God and Guns" would be the last ones to give up either, and the most likely to survive out in the middle of nowhere, making this plot less likely? But one might also argue that those same people are the ones who keep insisting there's some Leftist/Radical/Communist/Socialist Pinko Plot to take "God and Guns" away from them. Maybe this is a paranoid fantasy of how that would happen to them.<br /><br />In any case, the film is thought provoking and very subversive in its exploration of the positive and negative effects of Religion. <br /><br />And if people who will happily accept computers becoming sentient and attacking their human creators by nuking major cities (wouldn't that create problems with... I dunno... the ELECTRICITY the computers will depend on to run themselves and create Terminators with?) but have problems accepting that humans who've been warring over religion for thousands of years might decide after some final cataclysm to... I dunno... eliminate every trace of the thing they'd been fighting over? <br /><br />We don't see Eli walking past any bombed out motels full of Gideon Bibles. We also don't see him walking past any Churches. None of the vehicles have WWJD? bumper stickers on them either. Hahaha. <br /><br />Come on Geeks. You'll buy every woman on earth becoming barren. People volunteering to kill themselves when they turn 30. "Take your filthy paws off me you damn dirty ape!" and "Soylent Green is People!" But a guy with the Last Bible on Earth. THAT you just can't go along with?

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 4:17 a.m. CST

    I think you meant qualify, not quantify

    by Forsakyn

    Not being a dick here, Harry, but when you said you want to quantify your reason for liking the Book of Lie over The Road - you meant "qualify."

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 5:51 a.m. CST

    Australian Release

    by dead_leaves

    Consider yourselves lucky, over here in australia, we don't get the movie until May. FUCKING MAY! At which point my imported blu-ray will be sitting alongside the other hundred fucking imports that still havent been released here.

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 5:56 a.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil Amen My Brotha

    by Broseph

    Beautifuly Fucking Illustrated.and i like the screen name

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 7:36 a.m. CST

    Didn't realize geeks were so spooked by the Bible..

    by alienindisguise

    Almost as much as they're scared of real titties. The greatest stories ever told are in the Bible and have been reimagined and lifted since the dawn of film. Atheists are idiots because they say they don't believe in God but within that statement they acknowledge God. Everyone's searching for Him in one way or another.

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 8:03 a.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil = AMEN as well

    by BranMakMorn

    Agree on all your points.

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 9:32 a.m. CST

    The Trailers didn't sell it but the movie was good!

    by The Founder

    I like Denzil and Oldman and they are the reason I saw it. The spots and trailers I saw were just blah and mediocre looking. Whoever put them together did a piss poor job but maybe their wasn't much that could be done with the scenes from the films to make it look good. This is one of theose films where the actors are going to have to sell the film. Fortunatlr denzil did and I have to say the film was good and far better then I expected it would be based of again the trailers. Intersting twist at the end. Have to see it again to pick up on what was reveled about Denzil's chracter at the end.

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 9:35 a.m. CST

    No Sherlock Holmes review Harry??

    by DoctorFalcorMD

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 9:45 a.m. CST

    The fact that he's carrying the Bible, makes me feel icky

    by DoctorFalcorMD

    this movie looks great, but I can't stand religion, don't try to sell me your message.

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Killing in the name of God

    by DoctorFalcorMD

    That's what this movie should be called.

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Saw it, and had a few problems with it ...

    by Toe Jam

    But, for the most part, I actually enjoyed it. I won't go into my issues with the script, which would require revealing some spoilers, but I think people are unnecessarily freaking out about the whole Bible aspect. I DO think it's rather stupid to think the King James Bible could "save" mankind. Humans certainly don't need a fucking book to tell them how to be compassionate. So ... IF that had been the crux of the film, I would have been totally turned off by it. But by the end of the movie, the "message" is a lot more believable and not nearly as "Christian" as I think some of you fanboys fear. I'd say go see it and give it a chance. Regardless of how you feel about Christianity and all that bullshit, we really should support a major, mainstream film that has a post-apocalypse setting, gratuitous violence and a definite grittiness. We rarely get that kind of thing in a big studio production.

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 10:45 a.m. CST


    by Jubal_Early

    That's the dumbest thing I've ever read on Ain't It Cool News.

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 10:46 a.m. CST

    This was easily better than The Road!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    I like Viggo but Eli killed it! And Ia can't believe idiots keep thinking this is a religious film! The "Bible" is a plot device and it works really, really good and the ending DOES work!<p>Denzel and Oldman is great, the action IS badass, and ELI is easily better than that videogame/movie Avatar!

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 10:49 a.m. CST

    BTW, that Road Warrior sequel/remake has it work cut out for the

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    Eli came very close to giving you that Road Warrior vibe! If it was only pure action, I dare say it would be the official sequel to Thunderdome w/o Mel Gibson!

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Don't think of Denzel as badass???

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    Man on Fire, Training Day, Deja Vu, Manchurian Candidate (c'mon he does self surgery even though his rain is rattled). Oh yeah, he's badass. Harry's having memory loss.

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 10:52 a.m. CST

    All the Bibles gone

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    Quick, check every hotel nightstand in the world. Yeah, sure.

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Harry, is this what The Postman

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    should have been? Postman book was great. Movie: not so much.

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 10:56 a.m. CST

    I Hope The Bible Burns

    by PTSDPete

    And stupid fucking Christianity to go along with it. About damn time. </p> Will Smith as Eli </p>

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Jubal big call

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    but not a bad call, can only hope he is troll and looking for comments and doesn't actually believe it <p>

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 11:14 a.m. CST

    Michael Gambon the desert hick

    by Anything But Tangerines

    I think he has about 3 or 4 lines and I laughed hysterically at every word. Best part of the movie.

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Denzel has ALWAYS been a badass

    by fassbinder79

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 3:24 p.m. CST


    by birdy birdman

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 4:36 p.m. CST

    Really liked this movie...

    by Judge Briggs

    And yes, it was ala Fallout 3 on the big screen. Nice nod to the Boy and His Dog too... And man, the things I would do to Mila Kunis!

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 5:27 p.m. CST


    by JasonZumwalt

    Denzel is and always has been a badass. Man on Fire? Come on! Devil in a Blue Dress? Hell yes! Even Glory had it's moments of D-Dub Badassery guys! The single tear? The scars on his back? Come on! He won a fucking oscar for that shit!

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 5:53 p.m. CST

    Interesting concept

    by Manatee

    Typical of Hollywood to make it a moronic action picture. I guess people are too stupid to handle a movie about the consequences of mass destruction in the name of religion(s). It's high time on our evolutionary path to consider if organized religion has overstayed its welcome. Now THAT'S a movie I would like to see.

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 6:22 p.m. CST


    by tomandshell

    It's too bad that the last Bible in existence will be the rusty old King James. Makes me want to stick an NIV in a time capsule, just in case. The post-post-apocalyptic community of faith will thank me for it.

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 7:38 p.m. CST

    "Soylent Green is People"

    by BixbySnyder

    <p>Where the fuck does everyone think QUORN comes from?</p> <p>This movie actually looks pretty promising. They should have used a HUSTLER for "the McGuffin though.</p> <p>Somehow that makes FAR more sense.</p>

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 8:12 p.m. CST

    This Movie...

    by blhotz

    is only worth watching for Washington and Kunis and the "landscape". The religious undertones are nice but how it was done and the ending were slightly disappointing, imo.

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 8:17 p.m. CST

    I enjoyed the movie...

    by TheContrarian

    As an atheist I was able to view the movie as HIS (Eli's) journey. He wasn't going around proselytizing, he was simply on a mission. I saw his whole journey as one to preserve knowledge. Think about the shot of the bookshelf at the prison (I'm trying to avoid spoilers here folks).

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 9:33 p.m. CST

    I saw on Twitter you were watching Carpenter's ELVIS!

    by The Reluctant Austinite

    I love John Carpenter's "Elvis" in spite of its flaws; and none of those flaws include the amazing performance of Kurt Russell. I had no idea this was finally coming to DVD/Blu-ray! The movie kind of whimps out by ending during the Comeback Special while Elvis was still on top, but this was made only 2 years after his death and I believe it was intended to be reverential instead of depressing. There's some bullshit regarding some of the facts in Elvis' life (se: "the shadow"!), but there is also a lot of truth. Many members of the Memphis Mafia play themselves! I hope you get a chance to write something about this rarely seen gem.

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 9:35 p.m. CST

    If you thought Washington, Kunis, and the "landscape was the bes

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    then you lost yourf damnmind! This movie was full of wonderful performances and the story was good and moved at a good pace!<p>And those trying to say the ending was disappointing is bullshitting and do not understand!<p>I bet if we had to endure such a life than our outlook would to have such an ending!

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 9:43 p.m. CST

    Lets not forget what happened to Oldman's character in the end..

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    among other things! I swear I'll have to go back and see this again because Eli character just more than badass.<p>And its cool that so far the spoilers has been kept to intact because...well I was freaking shocked!<p>Anyways, good movie!

  • Jan. 16, 2010, 11:28 p.m. CST

    OMG- It has a BIBLE in It?

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    So I guess you guys hate "A Charlie Brown Christmas" on general principles too, right?

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 1:42 a.m. CST

    @ cymbalta4thedevil

    by fatjesuschrysler

    Thanks for bringing some reason and logic to this talkback. The movie was quite thought provoking and thouroughly enjoyable on a simple "popcorn movie" level as well. I completely disagree with a previous talkbacker who said the movie was "preachy", it wasn't. I think most of these geeks are coffee shop psuedo intellectuals who can easily dismiss something "religious" as preachy or just down right lame. I'm not a particularly religous man, but I'm interested in religion and how people use things such as the bible for both good and bad. That is the heart of the story (not really sure what the hell Harry was talking about or if he saw the same movie I did).

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 2:16 a.m. CST

    Talkbackers-try to be a little open-minded *SPOILERS*

    by fatjesuschrysler

    The bible isn't the last book on earth, it's the last KJV of the Holy Bible. Eli's journey is an affirmation of his faith and we find out in the end that it's not about preserving Christianity, it's about preserving and rebuilding our(mankind's)culture which consists of many faiths.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 4:38 a.m. CST

    Would have been better with Airwolf!

    by creamfinger

    I would have liked the movie better if it had Airwolf.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 8:03 a.m. CST


    by GeorgieBoy

    Jeez Harry, you are a part of the side warring against Christianity and you don't see how the memory is trying to be eradicated? I knew you were a hack, but I didn't think you were blind.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 9:41 a.m. CST

    we don't know for SURE it's the last...

    by CrunchyMilk

    when Eli said it was the last book of its kind, I took those as ELI'S words, not as a fact. he probably just thinks it's the last, and it's probably easiest for Gary Oldman to go after that one then continue looking for another. it really didn't bother me much.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 10:06 a.m. CST

    Harry, so the DVD reviews gonna be a monthly thing?

    by SoylentMean

    'cause this month is almost over. Just thought I'd ask.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 10:25 a.m. CST

    looks like...

    by torpedoboy

    ...a cross between "I am Legend" and "Constantine". count me out.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 10:43 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    Just as in the case with Islam and Judaism, the radical elements continue to warp and corrupt the basic tenets of their religions - not only giving them a bad name, but perverting their originators' teachings. Georgieboy, nothing you have ever said here would reflect anything that would have come from the mouth of Yeshua. You're about as Christian as Michael Medved is to Judaism, or Osama bin Laden is to Islam.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Avatar won the box office again, says Box Office Mojo

    by SoylentMean

    Might it sink Titanic? The Dark Knight is definitely getting beat by blue ThunderSmurfs.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 11:40 a.m. CST

    I completely admit bias

    by Jubal_Early

    I was raised Southern Baptist, and my mother forced my brother and I to go to church 3 times a week (Sunday morning & Sunday night, and then again on Wednesday nights), and that's not even including revivals when you go EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE WEEK! We were absolutely inundated with church, even watching the gospel programs and gospel music constantly. We had to sneak away to listen to any music or watch any movie that my brother and I ACTUALLY WANTED to hear or see because it wasn't Christian and we couldn't let our mom find out. My father always believed in God but never liked church. My mother died of cancer when I was 12 years old, though her and HUNDREDS of people of our congregation prayed for her. I was told that God answers prayers, but when I asked our preacher why my mother died, he actually said to me, a twelve-year-old boy at the time, "It's God's will, son." Do you know how stupid that sounds to a person with even the slightest bit of sense? Well, if God was going to take her anyway...then why were we praying in the first place? Ludicrous! After that, I started reading more on a variety of subjects OUTSIDE of the Bible for once--history, science, classic literature, etc.--and I found MUCH more logic and sense there. Never went back to church again, even when family members offered to drive my brother and I, we were freakin' DONE with that business. Fool me once, shame on you, but fool me TWICE...I loved my mother, I truly did and still DO, but I believe she was a lost woman (for reasons I won't go into) that was taken advantage of by indoctrination and promises of better things over the horizon--she was charitable and kind, but that changes nothing about how I felt THEN about religion (I was sick of it even as a kid, just not made for it), and how I feel about it NOW. I have watched THE BOOK OF ELI, mostly because I'm an instructor of Filipino Kali and have trained with Guru Inosanto and wanted to see the fight choreography, so I'm not going to tell everyone what I thought about the film, that's not the point of my little rant here. I watch films all the time, but if I see even the SLIGHTEST hint that I'm being preached to in ANY forum, I FREELY ADMIT that my previous experience with religion and my bias against it FORCES ME to turn it off. And there's nothing wrong with that. You'll have your movie (assuming it's preachy) and I'll have my peace of mind watching something else suitable to me. People are welcome to their beliefs, but I've been preached too ENOUGH for one lifetime, thank you very much. People scream that Hollywood is too liberal, but good God I NEED IT TO BE since I live here in the South and see very little programming that DOESN't uplift Jesus in some way or another. Really, it's everywhere. Whether you're watching SCRUBS & Perry gets set straight on belief in a Higher Power by some miracle that happens, or if you're watching LOST and there's that episode where they have "faith" that that button needs to be hit to reset the doomsday clock--it's EVERYWHERE, being discussed in EVERY show at SOME POINT, and it happens ALL THE FREAKIN' TIME. Even on the show HOUSE, where he's a man of intellect, he railed against evolution in an episode, which I'm sure made all the creationists clap-happy. Religious people scream for more religious movies, but they're on TV (at least down here) ALL THE TIME!!!! Sunday mornings there is NOTHING ELSE but religious shows. You've GOT your voice religious people, you've had it for 2,000 FREAKIN' YEARS. The Bible is #1 selling book of ALL TIME. We know you're there. So, yes, if a movie goes and gets all preachy on me (I'm not saying ELI specifically does, decide that for yourself) then you bet your ASS I'm walkin' out. As I said, I've been inundated with it ENOUGH and want ANYTHING ELSE BESIDES the uplifting of God/Jesus/Allah/Buddah/Whoever in my movie. If I want preaching, I'll go to church, THAT'S why I avoid movies with religious messages (again, not that ELI does). Anyways...we're all just floating...

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Book of Eli SUCKED!!!!

    by IHaveSeenEveryEpisodeOfPrisonBreak

    What a terrible film. Of course Harry likes it, he got paid. What a dumb POS. The Bible, really? C'mon. I took my son to see Spy Next Store and that was terrible too, but at least I got enjoyment out of how bad it was. The only thing Book has going for it was the rediculous hotness of Mila Kunis. Oh, and I actually watched a very good film last night. Big Fan with Patton Oswalt. For those that have not seen it and have Netflix, it is on instant watch and is very good.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 11:43 a.m. CST


    by Jubal_Early

    I DID post what I thought about the movie in another talkback, admittedly. ;)

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 12:08 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    And you're 2 degrees to Bruce Lee? Awesome.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Might be a good thing, actually...

    by PennyB

    Oddly enough, I was thinking that if the King James Bibles all disappeared, it might be a very good thing for the women of this planet. Religion will kill us all one day. Maybe we'd begin to think rationally if we quit believing in the Old Angry Male in the sky.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 1:15 p.m. CST


    by a2thamizzo

    io9 has an interesting piece about how this movie is basically a remake of the Connery/Boorman flick 'Zardoz' - only, changing certain plot elements so as to pretty much dilute the point of the original, kinda like the modern version of "I Am Legend" did.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Do they have generators?

    by Adelai Niska

    Because I'm pretty sure backward future-people could operate a photocopier if they had power for like 45 minutes.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 1:40 p.m. CST

    The bible is basically a macguffin...

    by Fico

    It seems that most people here that are up in arms haven't even seen the film. It's a movie where Denzel walks through a post-apocalyptic world kicking ass. If you can't get into that, why are you at this site? If you see it and don't like it that's fine (I thought it was great), but don't dismiss it out of hand because it has a bible. Go to if you want someone to point you to some atheist-friendly films.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Brainrot affects Talkback

    by Saxster

    As usual, I see the to-be-expected liberal-is-insanity taint that too many pseudo-punkass-intellectuals that comment @ AICN are infected with. Book of Eli is a great movie, one of the top 3 in the post apocalyptic genre and it delivers on all cylinders. If you have a problem with the premise, you need to go buy some Muddy Waters albums and get a soul injected. Seriously. What a pack of ghouls.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 1:56 p.m. CST

    It doesn't feel particularly preachy

    by blackwood

    Just got back from it. I liked it. I honestly think Harry is overstating the badassness of it all - I mean, on a scale of one to badass I'd probably give it a half machete.<p>But I thought the performances were great, the premise was interesting and I really dug the cinematography. I certainly didn't find it preachy, because Gary Oldman's character was, in a lot of ways, very like Eli, in that both understand the power of words to sway peoples hearts and minds - they both learned from the same book very different things. I thought it presented a very interesting examination of religion as a human institution.<p>As for the book being the last actual Bible on earth, and that being unbelievable - I think it's entirely believable that these people THINK it's the last Bible on earth, and that's more important than it actually being so.<p>The twist, and the end... I don't know. It confused me a bit, made me wonder some things about Eli that I don't know if I should wonder - maybe I'm bringing too much to it. But after the reveal, there's a very specific scene, that made me think the filmmakers wanted me to question what I was looking at...<p>In the end I found it affecting, and it made me think. Not bad for a matinee.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Great, Just What The World Needs, More Christian Bullshit

    by LaserPants

    No thanks. I'll pass. Religion is for the weak (and stupid).

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 2:57 p.m. CST

    when can we talk about the twist

    by tgmee

    How many days should go by before we can discuss the twist because I'd love to know what people thought and if anyone has seen it a second time? Also, I'm an atheist and I didn't care that it was a Bible. It could have been the dictionary. Just wouldn't have started so much controversy and controversy puts butts in the seats.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 3:05 p.m. CST

    it was 100% good entertainment.

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    Good Job Hughes brothers, you earned ALOT of respect from me after having read some interviews (of you promoting this film)-and seeing the film.The Hughes brothers certainly don't give the trained answers most of there Hollywood counterparts regurgitate over and over on countless talkshows.Aside from that, I THOROUGHLY enjoyed Book of Eli(and was bored by Sherlocke Holmes...which was just..average).And Harry, I don't think you fully "got" Gary Oldman's character.He wasn't about good.He was basically the next Hitler, looking for a propaganda to teach and enslave the masses ( very much like the catholic churches in the heartland of the USA).So,I think he was more on a crusade for power.But, I loved that he wasn't over the top.All in all, it wouldve been great to have added in 2-3 MORE fight scenes, but hey, it was good for me.The film reminded me VERY much of CHILDREN OF MEN, so if you liked that-you will like this.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 3:09 p.m. CST

    The movie sucked and AICN is pushing crack

    by Cshores

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 3:13 p.m. CST

    by Cshores

    There is no fucking way that every one of the main contributors of one of the most prolific movie review websites in the U.S. thinks that this movie is worth a fucking piss. No fucking way. There is some kind of agreement to promote this movie on this site by giving it OK reviews. That can be the ONLY explanation. It is a TURD. No fucking way you guys can review this well and look yourself in the mirror without shame! Sad really. That is what it has boiled down to. Sad really. I will never read another review off of this site.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 3:15 p.m. CST

    It's not Christian Bullshit

    by blackwood

    Thinking for yourself is hard, I know, but there's little difference between dogmatic religious propaganda and dogmatic anti-religious propaganda - both sides would rather fight than think. This movie inspires thought. You should try it sometime, it feels good.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Harry is a bad writer?

    by Manatee

    How many people on this board can claim to be published authors? Not random musings on a Internet forum, but an honest-to-dog BOOK that can be found at an honest-to-dog BOOKSTORE. I'm guessing... not many. Yeah, Harry's grammatical skills leave something to be desired, but dude has taken care of business. The venom spewed his way is baffling to me. If I was in his shoes, I would have told people to fuck off long ago.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Jubal_Early Wins the Talkback

    by Star Hump

    Intelligent and quite moving to boot.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 4:07 p.m. CST

    The hatred towards religion is interesting..

    by ColinSL

    It's a very interesting concept to me, the hatred towards religion and more specifically, Christians. It's very rampant on the internet because it's easier for bitter souls to take out their anger on it from their desktop. In many cases, I feel that they are justified in their bitterness towards religious folk. It's not a bitterness with God, though, for as much as He gave those people free agency to misinterpret His literature to use for their own means, He gave people free agency to rebel against that and deny His word. I've seen the scary, disgusting people on Jesus Camp and I've heard the bull shit that Pat Robertson says (along with Falwell, Warren and other prominent conservative Christians), but the Christians I've met are very kind and humble people who have actually taken time to read the Bible and have found that Jesus brought a message of love. Any Christian who thinks that He didn't and tries to use His message in hatred is absolutely false and you should not listen to them as any kind of representation of Christianity. I don't think that religion has caused all the strife in the world so much as people on their own have. God had nothing to do with it. Anyway, I think this movie looks solid even though I was dissuaded by the reviews, I may have to just check it out.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Denzel plays an angry black man

    by Scopa


  • Jan. 17, 2010, 4:29 p.m. CST

    Angry Denzel is GOOD

    by BranMakMorn

    that's how it should be, leave the happy parts to the Wayans brothers, Will Smith and Eddie Murphy

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Felt like a biblical story set in a possible future

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

    And not being a bible thumpin' Christian myself, I'm completely fine with it. Having the last remaining bible as the macguffin certainly gives it some weight that other post apocalyptic flicks don't have. This movie had the kind moody, bleak desolate future that Terminator 4 SHOULD have had, that we glimpsed in the original Terminator. Any director that takes a crack at adapting Stephen King's Dark Tower series should take notes.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Tgmee, I'm willing to discuss the twist.

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    I've seen Eli only once though but I do remember some things. I'm going to see it again later today!

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 5 p.m. CST


    by Fico

    Ebert and Roeper both liked the movie. Are they part of the conspiracy too? Or maybe they're both fundie christians...oh wait...

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 6:07 p.m. CST

    Awww Meg

    by vpiercey

    I thought Mila Kunis was a bit of a distraction. When she was locked behind a door and shouted "you are SUCH a liar!!", all I could think of was Meg! LOL

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 6:15 p.m. CST


    by Cobbio

    Thanks for the review, Harry! I agree with most of what you wrote, though I maintain my own take on the film.<p> Though I'm an atheist (not an agnostic), I really enjoyed the story, characters, and mood the Hughes Brothers set up for us to watch. The story was quietly fascinating and quite moving, especially in its attention to detail, and left lots of room open for interpretation.<p> Excellent work all around. Can't wait to see it again.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 7:41 p.m. CST

    I liked it more than I expected to

    by CountryBoy

    I actually dozed off early on, but soon it picked up steam. The fight scenes were well-done, and the ending was great. I recall a number of things that set up the "revelation" earlier. I can't believe the Hughes's last movie was FROM HELL; that seems a lifetime ago.

  • Jan. 17, 2010, 11 p.m. CST

    frank avoids religion like the plague

    by frank cotton

    yet he also wonders about the maniacal hatred of christianity. especially by the so-called tolerant

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 12:07 a.m. CST


    by uberman

    I had very little expectations for this and I was in for a real treat. I was completely taken in for the ride, as I am in only the best films. For sure one of my Top Ten at years end. Incredible filmaking, great acting and an superb story. See it if ya havent-I know I was glad I did.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 12:29 a.m. CST

    Fallout 3 = Book of Eli

    by lalalandlovechild

    Best game adaptation yet! I wonder if the makers of Fallout 3 know that. Wait, the writer worked for IGN? Hmm. I smell lawsuit.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 6:27 a.m. CST

    The hatred towards religion=

    by quantize

    is just based on logic and intelligence you lunkhead.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 6:29 a.m. CST

    'humble people'

    by quantize

    who believe we should all be converted and live by their bullshit moral codes.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 7:27 a.m. CST


    by the new transported man

    keepin' it real. My man!

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 8:55 a.m. CST

    No, but you should check his hands

    by Gearfree

    Best unnoted part is defiantly the small part that Malcolm McDowell has. Mila could have been played by someone else, but she does the role(although it makes the idea of the sequel uninviting). Overall it was somewhat entertaining, nothing breakthrough, but very good concerning the trailers and interviews. For general anti-scathing reasons, I don't consider myself religious.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 9:17 a.m. CST

    The Bible = Retarded.

    by Brosefulae

    What a stupid, boring idea. A religious war that destroys the bible? Dumbest plot ever.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Better Off Without Religion

    by DaveInRhodeIsland

    I doubt I'll go out of my way to see this movie, as it sounds like a prosyltizing endorsement of Christianity. I am an Atheist and feel strongly that the world would be a much nicer place without religion.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Harry can't imagine the things he thinks he can imagine

    by Immortal_Fish

    "I can't even imagine religious zealotry getting so bad" ::snip:: "but at the same time, I think I can imagine it."<P>Okay, so which is it?

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 12:28 p.m. CST


    by blackwood

    Okay, I want to talk about the ending, please if you don't want the movie spoiled for you do not read this next paragraph.<p>SPOILER WARNING SPOILER WARNING Are we supposed to take the reveal about the Bible to mean that Eli was, for the entire film, "dnilb" <<backwards so people don't accidentally see. The push in to his eyes when he's reciting the Bible for Malcolm McDowell is long and deliberate, so that's what I assumed it was trying to say, and they looked cloudy, but I didn't know if that was just me reading into it or what. END SPOILER END SPOILER END SPOILER<p>Even people who don't want to see this film please don't ruin it for others that do.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 12:38 p.m. CST

    anybody read Ennis' Just A Pilgram?

    by irc-Hollywood

    same premise, guy walks the earth with only copy of the bible, except at the end he losses his faith and burns the bible as the last two human beings alive fly off into space to inhabit a new planet, free from the "poison of the bible." Cool comic book, check it out

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 12:44 p.m. CST

    blackwood *****SUPER MEGA SPOILER ALERT***

    by harper54

    I thought it was fairly obvious by the ending but the two folks I was with did not. Then I got to thinking that being left open to interpretation would in retrospect give you two VERY different films. An idea that has resonated well in the few days since I saw the movie. <p> While I would need a review akin to a second viewing of "Sixth Sense" I recall a few times he bumped into things and such but it was never overtly implied. The great part about individual interpretation of the "twist" is even if you take the divine intervention route, the last shot of the King James being placed on a shelf next to the other holy texts tempers down the Christianity theme enough for me not to feel as if I was getting preached at. <p>Went in with low expectations and came out pleased.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Hey Harry


    That Dorian Gray ad is FUCKING ANNOYING you fat shill. It dominates the page every time you come to the site and then even after clicking CLOSE it takes you to Play/Amazon. Sort it out please.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 12:55 p.m. CST


    by blackwood

    When the camera very deliberately pushes in on Eli's eyes, and they 'seemed' cloudy, then I figured that's what it meant. And then I thought maybe not. And then I thought maybe so. Since seeing it I've been wavering on the possibilities, which really do give you two different films. A second viewing is in order, for sure.<p>And definitely, the 'preachy' aspect of the film seems to rest firmly in the minds of folks too close-minded to see it. Although, with the different ways of interpreting the film, also come different ways of viewing that angle, too. Even so, I think you're right - the context of where the Bible is placed, in my mind, says a lot more about the meaning of the film than the fact that it's the "Holy Bible".<p>It's nice - I seem to like the movie the more it sits with me.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 1:05 p.m. CST

    It's nice to have a film sit well

    by harper54

    for a change. I'll never forget watching the Ed Norton "Hulk" movie and afterwards walking across the street, pausing and struggling to remember what I just did. I was like "damn, I know I just did something but I can't remember!". Took a second and then it hit me that I just spent two hours watching a completely unremarkable movie (and no, I'm not nearly old enough to have Alzheimers).

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Harry the Whore

    by AICNsucks

    When the review starts out about him throwing a party for the movie, there is no bother with reading the rest of the quote unquote review.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 2:16 p.m. CST

    I love guys like LaserPants and PTSDPete


    ...attacking religion as being for the 'weak', 'stupid' etc....yet 96% of the world's populace including many brilliant intellectuals believe in a Creator. How arrogant...and ignorant that you become what you accuse others of by slinging names and spouting venom.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 2:26 p.m. CST

    umm HanYo...

    by harper54

    Really? Did you think before you wrote that? Are you actually serious about asking me why I'd engage (on this site) in a conversation about a movie (in wide release) with MORE than adequate spoiler alerts?!? Do you not have a single friend you can argue with? Or do you just troll from site to site trying to piss people off? Oh wait! Is this your first time on this site? <p> Let me break it down for you simple-like so you can understand; This site and the talkback areas were specifically designed for people to exchange ideas and opinions about movies. If you didn’t know that, I guess a pass in order but otherwise don’t win the stupid prize because you don’t have the will power to avoid what were very obvious spoiler alerts.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 2:53 p.m. CST

    No one likes this film except AICN

    by Trazadone

    Seriously, the reviews have been just awful for this thing everywhere else. I don't trust AICN for a second.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 3 p.m. CST

    Sorry HanYoYo

    by blackwood

    Sorry that we both clearly marked our posts SPOILER so that anyone who didn't want to read them wouldn't - and even then took some pains to talk around the issue instead of stating it outright - and sorry that you are retarded and have no willpower, so that you were forced to read it, but on the bright side, at least we gave you something you could be pointlessly upset about so you'd be able to call strangers names for discussing a movie in Talkback for that movie on a site where everyone talks about movies.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Secular Humanists and Atheists Don't Fly Planes Into Buildings

    by LaserPants

    Religiotards, on the other hand, are known to do that and worse (Inquisition, facilitating and covering up child rape, et al).<br><br>It is beyond the height of absurdity that we should have to suffer these fools. No, I'm not tolerant of your fairy tales, fuck them, fuck you, and please do go away. The rest of humanity is looking to evolve past your collective nonsense. <br><br>If you are a child of about, say, 5 years old, and you believe there is a Magical Man who lives in the sky and knows when you've been naughty or nice, I understand. If, however, you are an adult and you still believe this shit? YOU ARE MENTALLY ILL and need to seek professional help. Period.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 3:27 p.m. CST


    by blackwood

    Okay, fair points, and of course by fair I mean UMAD?<p>But I'd selfishly love for you to see this film and tell us your take on it. Believe it or not, what you accuse religion of, the film accounts for, in Oldman, but it's also no so simplistic as to say that faith is entirely worthless - just that it can be dangerous.<p>But that's a question - do you think faith is worthless? Or just belief in sky people?

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 4:01 p.m. CST

    When I think of this movie

    by Yamato

    all I think of is the wise words of John Lennon. Imagine no religion. Imagine no bible, no koran, no torah.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Faith In The Sense Of Hope Is Worthwhile, Sure

    by LaserPants

    But faith in an angry (and deeply insecure) Space God who will punish you for all eternity in a lake of hellfire for eating meat on Friday is psychotic at best, dangerous at worst.<br><br>What, so Oldman is the Right Wing Religious Nut and Washington is the Good Guy Religious Nut? Okay. But they're both nuts. I don't see the point in letting a fairy tale guide your life. I don't see the benefit. It makes no sense to me whatsoever. At best it's pointless and psychotic, at worst it's dangerous and destructive.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 4:10 p.m. CST


    by LaserPants

    Telling me that 96% of humanity is mentally ill pretty much reinforces what I'm saying. Thanks! <br><br>Btw, It's okay to be "arrogant" when you're right. And if I'm wrong... prove it. Prove to me that your faith is anything other than a fairy tale you tell yourself to stave off the fear and loneliness inherent in a largely cold and indifferent universe. PROVE IT. You can't, because you know it's not real. And before you bother, I don't have to prove that something that doesn't exist does -- the burden of proof is on you and this alleged 96%. <br><br>Have faith in yourself, have faith in your intelligence, have faith in your friends, do right by all, help those who need help, and do no harm. That pretty much sums up all you need to know or do. I fail to see how belief in Santa Claus (or whomever) does anything but obscure the facts and make you insane.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 4:12 p.m. CST

    The film is more about

    by blackwood

    faith - in the sense of hope - than it is about religion. At least that's how I saw it. And not preachy.<p>Ultimately I think it's a pretty interesting film, and I don't think it's antithetical to your opinion.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 4:12 p.m. CST

    IN RE: Harry, Massawyrm, Quint & Book of Eli...

    by Zahaladeen

    ...who says they can't like the same movie? They went in to see a post-apocalyptic movie with visceral violence and that's what they got. They didn't go to Wednesday night church and decide to push Christianity. Do you REALLY think Pat Roberts will get wood thinking that this movie will pack'em in on Sunday morning? Take a nap, please.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 4:25 p.m. CST

    weirdest talkback......ever

    by liljuniorbrown

    There are like seventy post about how horrible the bible and anyone who claims a religion are,three people defending religous beliefs and one fucking weirdo who posted a thousand words on dead wrestlers. I've seen some dumb talkbacks before but this one takes the shit cake.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Oh, Okay, Maybe I'll Check It Out, Then

    by LaserPants

    DVD. I love me some apocalypse, and the cast seems good (Oldman, Washington), I just can't stand the Bible angle.

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 6:27 p.m. CST

    was good to see

    by frank cotton

    GARY OLDMAN back in form. frank liked it. what more is there to be said?

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Does Mila get naked or what?

    by HB_Dad

    That is all we really want to know!

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 8:44 p.m. CST


    by frank cotton

    not even close

  • Jan. 18, 2010, 8:59 p.m. CST

    The movie would have more balls if it was the KORAN

    by Wookie_Weed

    Christians are easy targets.

  • Jan. 19, 2010, 12:50 a.m. CST

    Liked it a lot

    by UnChienAndalou

    Even though Mila Kunis was so badly miscast that I was taken out of the reality of the story anytime she was onscreen. Her pristine hotness didn't blend in well with the desolate landscapes and the general apocalyptic decay. The part would've been better suited for a chick with the gravitas to hold her own against DW and the toughness to make the viewer believe that she could fend for herself on the open road. I'm surprised the Hughes's went with a pretty face instead of someone who could inhabit the character with real authority.

  • Jan. 19, 2010, 12:59 a.m. CST

    Really, really enjoyed it...

    by Barrock

    I didn't think I would. From the RT rating I was expecting a mediocre flick with some decent fight scenes. Ended up loving it. Definitely check it out.

  • Jan. 19, 2010, 1:23 a.m. CST

    Burn the Last Bible!

    by Akira Cowabunga

    How many people have died because of that piece of shit book of mythology? Anybody thinking that book is the word of God is a self-deluded idiot. Same goes for other "holy" books. God hasn't written a fucking book. humans have, and humans are idiots.

  • Jan. 19, 2010, 3:33 p.m. CST

    If 96% of the world is religious...

    by FluffyUnbound

    ...then how was there an apocalypse in this movie? If religion is going to save civilization and make everything right again, how did the world get destroyed in the first place? That's the biggest plot hole of all, and it's the number one reason this film annoys me. The world's last Bible can't save the world if the billion Bibles we already have now didn't save it. That's the real reason people are annoyed with this film - because the marketing implies that it's a straight up "The message of the Bible will save the world and bring society back" story, and that is just DUMB. As it turns out, the story appears to be a little more complex than that, but you sure couldn't tell that from the marketing.

  • Jan. 20, 2010, 8:10 a.m. CST

    I'm a theologian...

    by judasthered

    ...and didnt find the film to be preachy at all (was thinking of Fallout 3 most of the time). It's just a film of how one man deals with despair in his own way. The 'divine intervention' demonsrated in the film could of might as well have been just luck. I can't stand being preached to either. Just follow the golden rule and dwell on all the 'big questions' on your own.

  • Jan. 20, 2010, 9:31 a.m. CST


    by Delorean

    I don’t understand how people such as yourself can be so smug about something that essentially can’t be disproved. There isn’t a single mathematical equation that could disprove God. You can’t give any eloquent speech or state a serious of events or circumstances that would make the answer a definite NO. There is nothing that can be said or done, not a single fact in existence, that would force the entirety of mankind to admit “Oh, well because of this, there is no God.” All a believer ever has to say is “It’s God’s will”, and no matter how much that irks and offends you, you can’t really ever disprove it. Could God ever make a burrito so hot that He Himself couldn’t bite it? Sure. Maybe He exists in a dimension where that’s possible and not even paradoxical. Don’t think so? PROVE IT. I might not know everything, but one thing I do know by using simple logic and reasoning, is that no matter how self-assured and self-righteous you try to be, there’s no way you can actually know what it is you claim to know. You have no basis of fact, nothing but your faith (or lack thereof) to go on. Why is the burden of proof on the alleged 96%? You’re in the minority; maybe not on an AICN talkback, but definitely on planet earth. You're the one claiming to be more enlightened than the rest. Existence and the order found in the functions of a planet, body, and cell are good enough for most of us. Think we’re wrong? PROVE IT. But good luck, because no matter how much you can "prove" everybody else wrong, you can never prove yourself right.

  • Jan. 20, 2010, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Oh yeah...

    by Delorean

    and this movie is awesome. Beautiful cinematography, almost like kurosawa directed it himself.

  • Jan. 20, 2010, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Last Bible

    by homer40

    Seems like a stretch that there would be enough God haters to destroy every bible. Except that if there was a hole in the sky that blinded and killed everyone who sought sunshine, the world would be left with AICN readers, who sit in dark cellars staring at computers. So, if the only people left are the people who talkback at this site, I can easily see the Bible being hunted and destroyed, because AICN is a hive of atheist God haters. Really, it doesn't matter to me if you believe or not, but considering the percentage of the people on the planet who believe in some God it is just hubris to believe that they are all psychos who believe in a "fairy tale". Most believers, like myself, are not crazy right wing lunatics. We lead normal lives, watch action films, play video games, have wives (yes actual women who have sex with us) and children. And neither the Bible nor Christianity are against sex. The Bible tells us to be fruitful and multiply. Catholicism is all for hot nasty sex, as long as it is between married men and women. Really, the anti-God brigade on this site is annoying as all hell. Which, of course is where all you God hating atheists are going when you die.

  • Jan. 20, 2010, 11:48 a.m. CST


    by homer40

    Did anyone mention that the film was shot on the Red HD camera system? I had heard that before I went in so I consciously looked for the problems normally associated with HD. The film looked good, for the most part, but there was, not surprisingly, a tremendous amount of black crush in the dark scenes. I had hoped that Red would remedy this deficit, but it doesn't look like it. HD still does a shitty job of rendering dark areas on the screen.

  • Jan. 20, 2010, 11:54 a.m. CST

    The Film itself

    by homer40

    As for the film itself, it was very watchable. Having seen The Road a few days earlier, and thus having been in a catatonic, near suicidal stupor, it was nice to see an enjoyable post-apocalyptic film. I like The Road, but it was virtually unwatchable. It made On The Beach look like Caddyshack. Several critics have commented that the twist ending of Eli negates all that came before. I don't think that is the case, unless you thing Denzel's character is just a crackpot. If it as he believes, and he was actually visited by God and given the task of delivering the Bible to the West, then the twist ending makes perfect sense, because all things are possible with God, including (spoiler) memorizing the entire Bible and kicking major ass while sight impaired. I thought the film did an excellent job of merging the spiritual with the western, and Denzel was, as always, excellent. Mila was gorgeous, but it did look like she has a post-apocalyptic fashion consultant somewhere behind the curtain. It didn't bother me much, I mean, who wants to see Mila look anything but smoking hot.

  • Jan. 20, 2010, 7:07 p.m. CST

    Watched this movie last night *Spoilers*

    by meta4

    The blind ending was so obvious but really didn't hit me. THAT makes a perfect surprise ending to me in this day and age. It didn't beat you over the head "I see dead people" it just subtly (apparently) came and went. The movie does not live or die on the fact that Denzel was blind, though it makes every scene that much more interesting,if only for the nuances. The Film is great.I prefer it over The Road based on enjoyment alone. There are films that aren't "fun" to watch but are amazing but then on the same token there are films that are fun to watch but aren't amazing, Book of Eli falls under the latter while The Road is just...emotionally it did not catch me.

  • Jan. 20, 2010, 9:13 p.m. CST


    by tgmee

    Has anyone seen the movie twice? Does it work? I remember a few times he bumped into things and most of the time he could get by with his other senses. The one part that bothered me with "Alcatraz" itself. It would have had to be truly "divine" for him to find that place. The rest seemed like it could be explained.

  • Jan. 21, 2010, 4:09 a.m. CST

    Saw it last night

    by blackcoffee

    Avatar was sold out so we checked out book of Eli instead. I'd read nothing about it, had no expectations and didn't even notice what certificate it was. I thought it was very well shot, oldman was great, denzel was great. We spent the whole half hour drive home discussing the film. I loved the whole 'words are more powerful than guns' thing. Fight scenes were excellent. I didn't see the twist coming. I honestly don't understand how people could flipantly call this film shit. There's a lot of good stuff in it. It's not perfect but any piece of film making that inspires debate and is technically well made is worth seeing in my opinion. Oh yeah, and it's not preachy at all?! Incase anyone cared, I'm an athiest.

  • Jan. 21, 2010, 11:42 a.m. CST

    I've figured it out!

    by Colin62

    I have discovered the ultimate movie review equation. If Harry reviews a film near its release date and likes it and wyrm likes it, that is the worst film you have ever seen, and you should kill yourself before you watch idiots fighting over a bible.

  • Jan. 21, 2010, 11:48 a.m. CST


    by Colin62

    I can't believe I feel the need to comment on more idiocy, but the film is a half assed sub genre of other films that were "inspired" by Kurosawa, they have nothing else in common.

  • Jan. 22, 2010, 9:35 a.m. CST


    by kornovol

    Hehe, way to sneak a homophobic message into your review, mister BUSTED!

  • Jan. 23, 2010, 5:10 p.m. CST

    i liked it but (SPOILER ALERT) ...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    i was taken in by the trailers - there were 4 action/fight scenes in it - and 3 of them were shown in the trailer - it was good and all but i wanted more splat and less chat - i wanted to see a hughes brothers mad max - not the road-lite

  • Jan. 23, 2010, 6:59 p.m. CST

    It wasn't "road-lite", in fact it was better than The Road!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    I know difference of opinion.<p>Anyway..SPOILERS...Eli being blind added alot to the character that the trailer did giveaway. I'm glad the reviews I've read didn't spoiled it although there is something to be said about searching deeper!

  • Jan. 23, 2010, 8:30 p.m. CST

    A world without Bibles?

    by Scarecrow237

    A world without bibles wouldn't be post apocalyptic. It would be a rational paradise. And we'd finally have flying cars too!

  • Jan. 23, 2010, 10:59 p.m. CST

    Didn't have to be a Bible....

    by westie

    Just made the most sense where the movie took place. West of Middle America, obviously the Bible would be the book you're looking for. Oldman remembers a time when people would do anything for it, listened to preachers with fervor and was willing to do whatever God wished as long as a Prophet was there to dictate what he heard. The proof is in the end SPOILER SPOILER when he old man places the copy he's made in a stack between what I believe was the Torah and the Koran (pardon misspellings if there are any.)

  • Jan. 24, 2010, 11:15 a.m. CST


    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    the bible was incidental - it wasnt just the bible that was the last of its kind - the alcatraz enclave was a refuge for all sorts of lost items books art etc - the book shelf they placed the bible on also had a quran and torah (if i wasnt mistaken) - having the mcguffin be a bible made the story more accessible - i didnt see the movie as pro christian or pushing christianity - seeing the road before seeing this lessened its impact - the road is a better harder movie - a real punch in the gut - this was good too, but i was expecting and wanting to see more action (fallout 3?) - more brisk mutant cannibal combat escapism less long drawn out leone beauty shot nods - i saw it after 3 pints at the tgif across the parking lot from the cineplex - i was up for an action pop corn flick - good as it was i started to nod off during the intimate exchanges between eli and jackie from that 70s show

  • Jan. 24, 2010, 11:21 a.m. CST


    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    i just read your post after posting my last one - i stated the same thing you did - i shoulda read your post before posting - duh - but im glad i wasnt seeing things, my friends didnt see or notice the titles of the other books on that shelf - that shot broadened the meaning/point of the story

  • Jan. 24, 2010, 7:47 p.m. CST

    Plot hole: What about electronic devices?

    by LiquidLunch

    According to this movie, they still exist, case in point the mp3 player that Eli carried around. So it's not hard to imagine a few old Laptops or Amazon kindles cds with soft copies of the bible.

  • Jan. 25, 2010, 8:43 a.m. CST

    Enough with the bible already...

    by Redblade was just a plot device. It could have been an Uwe Boll DVD box set and it wouldn't have mattered. Gary Oldman wanted it, Denzel Washington didn't want him to have it, and much badassery ensued. Nothing about this movie tries to impose its belief system on you nor will it make you question the one you may already have- it's just a modern spin on a cowboy movie, and a quite enjoyable one, at that.

  • Jan. 25, 2010, 10:18 a.m. CST


    by thecomedian666


  • Jan. 25, 2010, 3:30 p.m. CST

    For a self proclaimed "comedian", you're not very funny

    by MattmanReturns

    Maybe you should change your handle to "thetroll666"?

  • Jan. 25, 2010, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Are we really supposed to believe it?

    by TheDrow

    *******SPOILERS********* MAJOR SPOILERS - DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET I have to ask are we really supposed to believe that Eli is blind? I mean seriously things like the gun fights would never have worked. Plus there are many times through out the movie where he doesn't have his sun glasses on and people would have noticed. No I'm thinking it's intended to be something more like cataracts where you can see but only the blurry out line of things. That would make sense both with what he does and the fact that he's reading a Braille Bible. ********END OF SPOILERS********* Over all though I loved the movie. In fact I somehow succeeded in avoiding finding out anything about it before seeing it, which made the whole experience so much richer. I went into it expecting something entirely different than what I got and I couldn't have been happier. Well done.

  • Jan. 25, 2010, 4:16 p.m. CST

    TheDrow... it's possible... SPOILERS...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    eli couldve been legally blind - but not completely blind - when he asked carnegie's wife if she lost her sight with the flash i assumed that thats how he lost his - people that go blind from exposure to nuclear detonation dont always lose all sight - unless their close enough for their eyes to melt (which is common) - with burned or damaged retinas some can still see light and shadow/shapes - but cant see enough to drive a car, distinguish faces, or read - he couldve determined the source of a gunshot and returned fire - his close combat technique required that an attacker make the first move - i bought it

  • Jan. 25, 2010, 7:49 p.m. CST

    TheDrow SPOILERS

    by MattmanReturns

    I think he's completely blind, and the explanation is simply divine influence. I mean, he shoots a raven out of the sky with an arrow. Not even a non-blind person can do that. Either that, or he's Daredevil. :)

  • Jan. 25, 2010, 7:51 p.m. CST

    And I also loved the movie

    by MattmanReturns

    I'm not religious in the slightest, but I appreciate a good story. Also, the style just made me giddy. It felt like a Kurosawa movie, honestly.

  • Jan. 26, 2010, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Not Kurosawa, but Kitano

    by hip2b2

    Suggest all you Japanese film fans check out Takeshi Kitano's 2003 version of Zatoichi to see what a blind swordsman can do. BTW, it's called suspension of disbelief.

  • Jan. 28, 2010, 8:47 p.m. CST


    by Homer Sexual

    Love the Hughes brothers. No problem with the concept or the twist, or even the acting. But it's just so boring. Very very boring. And as far as him being blind: Not only doesn't it really make sense, it's not a very interesting reveal anyway. Whatever. <p> Loved From Hell, Dead Prez, Menace. This didn't suck, but it wasn't good. It was dull.

  • Jan. 31, 2010, 11:26 p.m. CST

    Liked the Movie. Harry missed the Point.

    by CrymeLord

    As stated earlier, Harry did really misunderstand Gary Oldman's character. I think the end was clearly saying that Christianity wasn't the only religion of value, but it certainly was pro-bible. One could even argue that the title of the movie reflects what could be the next entry in the book itself. If anything this movie is a good argument against organized religion and for personally using the book for your personal growth.

  • Feb. 4, 2010, 2:59 a.m. CST

    One time viewing, at best.

    by wepnx7

    Movie blows. Barely any action in it and the story wasn't the least bit thought provoking. Which is a shame 'cause Gary Oldman is the shizznit.

  • Feb. 14, 2010, 12:57 a.m. CST


    by KHjLL

    SPOILER ALERT - THE BOOK OF ELI - One of the best films I've seen this year... Every human being needs to have faith in something and let FATE guide them...I believe in FATE so much I tattooed it on my back...LOVE how they added another BOOK to the BIBLE right after REVELATIONS but it's still about the story of ELI in the BOOK...THE BOOK OF ELI made me cry again after i watched it like AVATAR did... wish we could get a HUGHES BROTHERS film once a year or at least every two years...I got three screenplays they might be interested in...The BIBLE is a handful of books I have read...I have a SCREENPLAY for DENZEL WASHINGTON.....The TOWER OF BABEL...Or the tower of BABYLON, I always felt about the stories is that when It fell and the POPULATIONS of the WORLD split in its separate ways like the fall of ROME...but each region of the world INTERPRETED the HEBREW BOOK at the time each on different timelines like DIFFERENT language all have a different annunciation for a WORD...Some chose to write about the time and continue the story others have stayed true to the OLD BOOK…I think BUDDHISM is one of the languages that also broke off in the times and is another story of the times in which it was interpreted as knowledge…But anyhow I think a lot of RELIGIONS and ways of life in the WORLD are all the same EVERYONE is on a different timeline… ....I think eight different religions or regions of the world have the SAME story...JUST different INTERPRETATIONS... 7 - 10 different chapters of one BOOK...And I love BLIND FURY one of my al time favorite films...

  • Feb. 15, 2010, 6:55 a.m. CST

    Post Apocalyptic Fight....

    by REDD

    Who would win...Mad Max..John Connor..The Postman..or Eli?

  • Feb. 16, 2010, 8:18 a.m. CST

    people who want to kill the movie for everyone else

    by bigcced

    Some of the posters on this site need to go get a life and along with that a great big glass of shut tha fuck up. If you saw the movie and didn’t like it fine...If you didn’t see the movie and didn’t like it fine again; but to come on here telling the ending so as to ruin the movie for people who haven’t seen it, but are intending to ....that’s not fine. I’m not directing this towards the peeps who posted spoiler notices at the start of their comments and then let go with a major point of the movie, I’m directing this towards the idiots who for whatever reason didn’t have the sense to post a spoiler notice with their comment ...the peeps that are on here just trying to ruin someone else’s day...If you see yourself in my comment and are guilty of the contents then I have a big glass here for you and you really need to drink it all down and go lock yourself in a basement somewhere.

  • Feb. 20, 2010, 10:33 a.m. CST


    by KHjLL

    SPOILER ALERT - The ending is why I liked it so much...It's what made me not as into THE 6th SENSE all though a great film I knew BRUCE was a GHOST from the begining...Best ending I seen In a long time accutallly....I hope my SPOILER alert didn't ruin anything...I ussually don't read anything about a film until I see it...

  • Feb. 20, 2010, 10:34 a.m. CST


    by KHjLL

    Gotta be ELI - he has a BOOK of RAGE he protects...

  • Feb. 21, 2010, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Jennifer Beals

    by Deaf_Ears

    is aging like fine wine. And of course Mila Kunis is nice to look at. Other than that, fuck this movie.

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