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M. Bayson Says TRANSFORMERS 3...
Merrick here...
Michael Bay spoke to the L.A Times about sound in movies - their conversation veered precariously towards the third TRANSFORMERS film. While no concept or plot were revealed (I know, I know, don't say it), this may be Michael's first public characterization of the project.
So can we expect more thunderous sound in the third installment? Although the number of robots increased significantly from the first film for the second, the third film -- which will hit theaters in summer 2011, won’t be as robot-heavy and there will be fewer explosions, a tight-lipped Bay said after the Q+A.
“There will be a nice crescendo ending,” Bay said. “It gets much more into the robot character. The last time you kind of met a few of the robots; this time you’re gonna get a much cooler landscape.”
...says Mr. Bay in THIS L.A. Times piece.
I hope fewer robots and explosions means more time for horny chihuahuas!
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“There will be a nice crescendo ending,” Bay said. “It gets much more into the robot character. The last time you kind of met a few of the robots; this time you’re gonna get a much cooler landscape.”
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Jan 15, 2010 12:22:48 PM CST
are there gonna be "headmasters" transformers in this film
by chocolatejesusman
and if so are Jerry Falwell & Pat Robertson going to be the heads/controllers of skids & mudflaps
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I despised the first one enough to not even bother seeing the second, and the reviews have definitely validated me on that. Michael Bay is just awful.
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Like in that script that 'leaked' a few weeks ago...back to the 80's.
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Cybertron?
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Lucky bastard. I kinda liked the first one and so went to see #2 when it came out. I'm STILL pissed at that movie. Everything you heard about that movie is 100% true *cries*
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He will leave to play Spiderman.
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What the fuck is he talking about?
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that I heard there'd be a Big Momma's House 3. Which is to say that it made me sick to my stomach and made me want to bash my head against a brick wall.
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...then, what, I ask, IS THE FUCKING POINT OF ANOTHER TRANSFORMERS MOVIE?!
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Couldn't build a character develoment if his life depended on it
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I, and I'm sure a lot of other posters, could give a fuck less about another Michael Bay-directed Transformers (although on the bright side, it will keep him away from Spider Man)
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Couldn't build a character develoment if his life depended on it
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OMG Transformers3 will take place on the Predator homeworld!!! TVP will jump robot sharks. At the end, Robocop makes a cameo to propose the Avengers Inititive. Is there enough pot in the world to make this cool? I think so.
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Come on, it's true.
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From his ego actually confronting the possibility that he is a shitty filmmaker. You see he's trying to figure out why no one liked Transformers 2. So he's latched onto the notion that it was just because there was too much going on, too much awesomeness that overwhelmed the audience to the point where they became desensitized to the awesome. That must be it. So he's toning it down, confident that once we see less giant robot explosions and shattering buildings, we'll have time to catch our breath and really appreciate the dog humpings, the steppinfetchits, and the CIA men who wear ladies underwear. Once this 'toned down' Transformers 3 crashes and burns, perhaps he'll have no choice but to accept the only remaining explanation...that he's making shitty movies.
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To soon?
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God I hope so.
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What kind of landscape does New Mexico have? Besides the tax relief that keeps pulling films out of my town.
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Which could look badass Avatarred
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I'm sure it will suck just as hard as the first two. On a side note though, I actually randomly saw the sequel recently after making a conscious effort to avoid it for months. I thought the first one was just awful, and from what I read this was the same, only 100x worse, but honestly I thought it was actually more entertaining then the first. The humor was obviously more pathetic thanks to the addition of some good old racial stereotyping, but at least this time I could actually follow a few action scenes, which had a couple cool moments of robots getting torn apart. I mean regardless the movie was still shit, but I actually didn't find it worse then the first one.
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the Spiderman reboot.
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...about a shitty robot movie? You couldn't pay me to watch a Transformers movie. BAYformers 3 will blow.
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Decepticons manage to trick/force the Autobots (with maybe Sam and some token other human, not Megan Fox please) back to Cybertron. The Decepticons take control of the USA - a la General Zod in Superman 2. The "Earth" Autobots must fight their way back to Earth, picking up some cool new allies along the way for an epic final battle.
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with all the devastation rocking various areas of the world, someone needs to bring him a reality check. take all those dollars and donate it to something good instead of making another piece of shit movie that no one wants to see and makes the world dumber just by being in existence
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Jan 15, 2010 12:50:49 PM CST
"It gets much more into the robot character" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
by moonlightdrive
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That is all!
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I'm with the guys that saw the first one and haven't even bothered to see the second.
Fool me once - shame on you. Fool me twice - shame on me. Fool me thrice - Bay buys another solid gold toilet for his mansion. -
when dumb people try to sound intelligent in interviews by saying something that they think sounds profound, but actually makes no fucking sense? What a hack. If its in Cybertron, don't forget to show the "black" section where the ghetto bots come from! oh, the hilarity!
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He is the king of blockbuster shit. I may have been the only one who thought so, but the Island was entertaining enough. If he drops his ego a little, and collaborates with some visionary talent, he could direct a possible classic.
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Means more Shia and Megan Fox and other pointless Human characters... great...
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You know -- buck teeth, sloping foreheads, l's pronounced as r's, the whole bit. Maybe they can get Mickey Rooney to reprise his character from Breakfast at Tiffany's for the voice? I mean we all know the black robots from 2 were the high point of that movie, right?
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...do it.
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And Tranformers 2 had enough sound affects to cover robots transforming for the remaining history of cinema. Ridiculous.
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I hate it when people say "take the money put into that stupid money and give it to charity." Its not his money to spend, its money that is invested by a company in order to make more money. Movie studios are not charity foundations so why would they do something that would drive down their stock? Just say what you're really thinking, "Michael Bay sucks and this movie is going to be shit." You'll get very little dispute.
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tapeworm they pulled out of my uncle's ass. Uh, nah. Nevermind.
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Mainly because he's pretty expensive. He commands over ten million a picture at the moment. They can get Zac Efron much less right now and studios are obsessed with cutting down on overhead when it comes to the talent if they can help it. That may not always be the rule, Taylor Lautner got an offer for seven milion for some reason, but they're trying to stick to it.
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The action scenes were okay in the first one. I mean, you could actually see well enough to tell what was going on, as in, which robot is which. To me, the fight scenes in #2 just looked like a bunch of brightly-colored car parts rolling down a hill. You couldn't tell where one robot ended and the other began. It was a jumbled mess.
But that's not why #2 sucked so hard. "Humor" derived from farting robots, humping dogs, annoying moms eating pot brownies, swinging robot "balls", and lets not forget the illiterate walking stereotypes with gold buck teeth and big ears? *shudders* Oh, well, I'm sure there are some 7-year-old boys out there who found it funny... -
her black, mascera filled tears fell like rain onto her exposed skin...she felt so dirty; it wasn't just the sex, and the promise of more humilation that being Bays bitch all but guaranteed, no this was the dark dirty shame of someone who sold not only her body, but her very soul chasing fame. Riding along with Bay as he whipped his Ferrari up the hills to Speilbergs house, Megan finally understood there was no return, no deviation to the path she had choosen; either a life of continued servitude to powerful men or, if she could muster the courage, follow the footsteps of her idol Marylin and escape this world all together while some shred of dignity remained.Bay looked over...still sweating rivers as the Meth still surged through his body, and the rapture of forcing Megan to orally service him at the last stoplight as a car full of tourists, some under 12 just as he liked them, watched in confusion and horror. "Save some for the Berg baby..., if you think I'm a bastard just you wait till the BOSSES get hold of you...; Fuck I'm getting hard just imagining the fun we are gonna have at Steves house tonight!" Megan raised her head slightly...looking into her directors eyes...she bit her lip, trying to quell the fear and sorrow she felt for herself, memories of seeing Shia only an hour ago being raped by this beast filled her head... "I'm weak...and bought...a whore for fame" the thoughts raced through her mind..."what will they do to me...anything...anything for fame...you can take it Megan...Pride only gets in the way..." She almost had convinced herself...the tears we stopping just as Bay pulled up to a large iron gate off of Clearwater Canyon. "I brought my favorite TOY" Bay spoke to the intercom...the gate swung open...Megans heart pounded in her chest...and the tears again fell like rain.
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Wish there was a frickin' editing function on these forums.
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"Greater sound effects" is about the last thing a new Transformers movie needs. Hell, a new Transformers movie is about the last thing anyone needs.
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Besides, I'm calling bullshit on Bay's characterisation. What they gonna do, ask for a packet of skittles upon reaching Cybertron?
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obviously means on antarctica or something.
Bay could make a very good movie if he collabarated with an other director(and not like the mute steven spielberg) bay should only do the action because if he gets rid of the shaky-cam and zooming in constantly he is the best action-director there is, but he needs to be controlled and not by the studios. -
I actually thought the first one was kinda-fun, but forgettable, and I have no desire to see it again. TF2 just looked kinda boring and sounded awful. Not to mention potentially racist (with ROBOTS? How does THAT happen?).So I have to ask two questions:1) Is Transformers 2 really that bad? And;Is there any real demand for a third one?-Cheers
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...hated the first one. never saw the 2nd. will never watch a third. george may have raped my childhood but bay skullfucked it.
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Bay, I can understand.... but Steve?! Come on. You used to be better than this.
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I am not saying this just to say it. I consider Transformers 2 to be THE WORST movie I have ever seen, by lightyears. Every other movie on my personal "worst movie" list is merely boring or forgettable. TF2 was offensive, loud, annoying, and juvenile.
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...that was very disturbing, dude.
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...I thought TF2 was the best movie from 09 (I just seen D9 earlier this month, it was good but I rather rewatch TF2)...it was fun, action packed, funny (you cant tell me you wasnt laughin durin the library scene), and brutal (um...should good guys be so damn brutal?)...all TF haters, please just dont post in this article, can you let us trannyformerslovers enjoy this? please? ill get a female robot shapeshifter to suck your penises
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When you see Transformers 3: The Final Fuck-up
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JAMES CAMERON, maybe if he has some time off between spiderman and avatar 2 he could do it. In my eyes the perfect director for transformers, actually for everything...
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You know it's gonna happen. Transformers 3D. And maybe "cooler" could be a hint at climate? North Pole? Transformers protecting Santa so he can deliver presents to all the girls and boys?
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fuck man the last movie was so bad, please please let it go, have the strength, the goddamn balls to pull the plug and put this franchise out of its misery. only humane thing to do yo
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will suck as hard as the second one
no concept or plot were revealed -- nor will they ever be, no matter how much celluloid Mikey Bay wastes on making the thing.
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Once again, you have proven to be a true original. Honestly mate, keep it up because i love it. You are one of the reasons i read the talkbacks, and your prose is excellent. If you release anything, you have to let me know
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"us trannyformerslovers"?
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Maybe you should've said "nobody in the AICN Talkbacks liked the movie" because last time I checked it made shit tons of money. And I'm not defending it, I'm just stating the facts.
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by calling TF2 the "worst ever", I think you made Ewe Boll cry like a little girl
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Ya know, not just 2 sides fighting over a MacGuffin
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Glad to be of service :)
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Look, I enjoyed the first and the second. Some of you hated the second because there was no plot, why were you watching it for a plot? Huh. Anyway, just bring on Unicron and please don't make 'im out to be a cloud. KThnx.
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... will still queue up for it.
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... you are a god among TBers.
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...I thought I be the TF haters to the punch wit namecallin...
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whenever critics mention that your movie was the absolute worst of '09, it's time to give it up Baystard!
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It did make a lot of money, no doubt. I'm one of the people who contributed to the money it made, but I still hated the movie more than any other I've ever seen. Making lots of money =/= everyone outside of AICN loved it. A 20% tomatometer pretty much says it all. (By the way, if you get bored sometime, read the reviews... much more entertaining than the movie.)
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is also free publicity, whenever there is something about transformers these talkbacks go crazy, what's the best thing to do if you are a hater, not respond to anything and dont see the movie, because when people say to me a movie is very very bad it kinda interest me to go see how bad it actually is.
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I mean he's a good director when it comes to action sequences. The guy just needs to tone it down a little and make more believeable characters. His leery lecherous way of filming women belongs in pop videos and porn films.
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I actually liked the first one. It was big, stupid fun with robots and explosions- just like the cartoon was. It wasn't the next evolution of cinema but it was a decent enough throw-away movie. The second one, however, was like being strangled to death with my own intestines. That movie could have been cut down to about 10 minutes- the fight scene in the forest and random shots of Megan Fox's ass (Regardless of her lack of talent, I'd still go to town on that thing). I'd see a third one if I was bored and the reviews were halfway decent but otherwise I'd Redbox it when it came out on DVD.
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So if you liked the concept, the cartoon, and the first movie, but hated the second movie, and would like to see more Transformers movies as long as they're nothing like Revenge of the Fallen, which camp are you in? The "TF haters" or the "TF lovers"?
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by Starscream.
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but if they could only see how well she played her "role" in the Spielberg house...she'd have won an Oscar. She hated when George came to visit...Steven was bad enough on his own without having that sick, thick necked fucker urging him on...and now that maniac Bay was coming up the drive, "No doubt with some patheic boy or girl runaway he dragged off of Sunset" she mused. Kate popped her second Valium...adjusted her nipple shields and went to answer the door.....Continued after lunch....
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"Strangled to death with my own intestines"... nice! For me, it was more like feeling the slow, painful death of every single one of my brain cells.
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I'd pay double just to see that. I hope you somehow get involved with the writing process for the third one.
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Yeah the reviews were hilarious, I for one didn't hate it, I know it's a bad movie...let's just say that I'm pretty tolerant in regards of cinema
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I loved michael bay's first few movies because he made them look very cool, but you can see he cant come up with something new anymore he has become very repetive with things(the circling around people camera-shots, fake sentimental scenes etc.)
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People really worried about this upcoming film are idiots. You've seen two transformers films. You liked the first one, maybe. Then you heard how fucking awful the second one was, and you STILL went to see it. Which is as stupid as it gets. If you KNOW it's going to suck, and you see it anyway, and then complain--you are an idiot.
The only appropriate response to news of TF3 is "Well, I didn't care for the last one. I'm not going to bother with another."
Not bitching about how you can't take anymore, and Michael Bay should be shot in the head. That just makes you look like a douche.
I didn't see "Daddy Daycare." I just didn't bother. I don't HATE Eddie Murphy, I just know that childrens movies + Eddy Murphy, suck (to me--no offense to his fans). I didn't drive to the theater, pay for my ticket, then leave Daddy Daycare screaming "Oh my god! That was so fucking bad!", and I didn't rent the movie and say "Oh my god! What an insult to my intelligence!"
See, what I did was I didn't see it, in any format. I already KNOW what it's going to be. Saves so much time and stress.
I know for sure, if I came to this site and said "Oh my god! Daddy Daycare! Can you believe that shit? What the Fuck was that?" You guys would say "Dude! WTF did you think was gonna happen?"
And that's what I think of you TF2 haters. You saw Daddy Daycare even though you knew you wouldn't like it.
If you see Transformers 3, and are still of that mindset, you are officially retarded.
Me? I'll probably go. I liked both Transformers films, so I figure I'll like this one too.
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Id bet a MILLION CLAMS that most of the contributers to aicn merrick,quint, harry etc own bayformers 1&2 on bluray as well as wolverine and T4. A MILLION FUCKING CLAMS!!!!
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"Then you heard how fucking awful the second one was, and you STILL went to see it."
You're making quite the assumption here. Before I saw the movie, all I'd heard is that the plot was weak and there were a couple of robots that people thought seemed racist. Well, of COURSE the plot was weak, and I figured the racist robots thing was just people getting their panties in a bundle over nothing, like they always do. I didn't think is was going to win awards or anything, but I figured I would be relatively entertained... you know, like the first movie. What I got was over two hours of head-shattering noise, annoying cliches, juvenile attempts at humor... oh, and it turned out that the "racist robots" comments were more than justified.
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Transformers 3 sucked!!!!
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Well, If you had a piece of shit in one hand and Transformers 2 in the other.
Guess what?
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I liked the first movie alot, but thought the second one was balls, so im in hope of a movie along the lines of the first one, although doubtful
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...I liked TF2 more than TF and I was not a fan of the show like fan boys here are (I dont/didnt bitch bout flames on optimus)...I enjoyed TF2 and really question what the hell is wrong wit fan boys...how the hell cant you enjoy a movie based off a fuckin toy commercial and cry they raped your childhood...if TF raped your childhood, just commit suicide cuz your life is no way near ok
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Bay can't make human characters work, why does he think he can make audiences care about robot characters? The only robot with any personality in the TINO films is Optimus Prime, and that's 100% down to Peter Cullen's skills as a voice artist.
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more ego than money can buy.
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What is your favorite movie?
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...STOP MAKING THESE PIECES OF SHIT. EVERYTIME YOU MAKE ONE OF THESE JESUS KILLS A KITTEN.
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i don't know if that draft is really from Kruger but it has a time travel shit to the 80's. completely crazy stuff.
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...I have a lot of fav movies, but here goes a few... Bad Boys, Brick, Half Baked, Snatch, Lock&Stock, Sin City, Best Man, the Wood, Somethin Bout Mary, 10 Things I Hate About You, Serenity, City of God, Anchor Man, 40 Year Old Virgin, From Dusk til Dawn, the Faculty, Pulp Fiction, Constantine, Dogma, RocknRolla, Wedding Crashers to name a few lol
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...I have a lot of fav movies, but here goes a few... Bad Boys, Brick, Half Baked, Snatch, Lock&Stock, Sin City, Best Man, the Wood, Somethin Bout Mary, 10 Things I Hate About You, Serenity, City of God, Anchor Man, 40 Year Old Virgin, From Dusk til Dawn, the Faculty, Pulp Fiction, Constantine, Dogma, RocknRolla, Wedding Crashers to name a few lol
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I may not like every movie on your list but it is respectable due to the broad range of titles and genres on it. I'm just waiting for someone to single out one movie from the list and then try to explain why liking that movie is the reason you don't know what you're talking about. It's bound to happen.
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They predicted this. When they first predicted the coming 2012 apocalypse, they foretold of three evils, so great, that combined they would convince the Gods that humanity wasn't worth saving and would subsequently bring about the end of the world (I believe their exact wording was, "Dogs and cats, living together. MASS HYSTERIA!"). It was said that these three evils would be brought forth by a demon in human form, a demon so vile that you would know it was he when all those exposed to him would lose their intelligence, that they would become simply lambs led to the slaughter. This demon would release three soulless masterworks, and, upon arrival of the third and final masterwork in July of 2011, unlock a process that would culminate 18 months later on December 21, 2012 in the end of life as we know it. Don't you get it, people. Michael Bay is the one they were talking about, and if we want to survive to see 2013, we need to kill him before he can make that third soulless masterwork. Somebody take that motherfucker out!
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google for it.
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Nothing like reading elitist criticism from a guy who spends his spare time drawing naked Star Wars characters! Good lord. Not saying that either TF movie is a masterpiece, but has anyone actually re-watched the original Star Wars trilogy lately? They haven't exactly aged well.
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Literally, Transformers 2 almost turned me off from Transformers as a whole(i will still watch the legendary animated movie, that is my movie). As a fan of over 25 years, I was just blown away by how soul-less last summer's movie was. All I saw was piles of junk fighting each other, it made no sense to me.
Fuck Michael Bay....I am done with his illusions as a filmaker.
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I saw this shit at the swap meet, for five bucks(original and shrinkwrapped) and I just kept on walking....God I was so tempted to piss on it.The folks that made Transformers 2 are going to HELL guaranteed. Fuck this, not interested. I will wait for the Avengers flick.
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...lol thanks...Im thinkin someone will focus in on Constantine cuz theyre fan boys ("how can you like that movie? john constantine is not even english in it!") or RockNRolla ("how can you like a guy ritchie movie after he made swept away!") lol...and I totally forgot bout my fav Batman movies, Dark Knight, Batman Returns, Return of the Joker, and Mask of Phantasm
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They gave us Tranformers after all, I like that leaked TF3 script. It needs a little polish, but workable. And Cybertron at the end!
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...is it cuz it was "racist"? if so, I know at least 98% of you are white, so it shouldnt have offended you...is it cuz of the robot heaven? well I admit that was stupid...is it cuz youre all jealous of Shia and his career?...is it cuz the director decided to put jokes in the movie? ie: robot humpin and robot balls?...is it cuz its not a faithful adapation of a fuckin 80s cartoon?...please tell me why it was so TERRIBLE
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Pointless nonsense. TF2 I don't think even had a script. It was just a bunch of shit put together. Literally worst movie I've ever seen. Seriously. Legion will be better. I look forward to the reboot of this series and I will out right ignore the third one.
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I'm not a Keanu fan (at all!), I AM a Hellblazer fan and I still quite enjoyed that movie. It's not perfect and it certainly doesn't approach the greatness of the comic, but it's a fun enough watch. If they do it again, however, I hope that they at least get somebody who's willing to go blonde. John Constantine does NOT have black hair. Jus' sayin'.
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I don't see how it's any dumber than most big budget movies. I think avatar and so many other movies proved that internet fanboys really don't amount to much. Just a minority with a loud voice.
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With all the death and disease, it is the perfect conditions for a Zombie epidemic.
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Dead blue fuckers everywhere. I'd pay to see that in 3D
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FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
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FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
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FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
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...to know James Cameron just bent you over a table and had his way with you?
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will look just as horrible as the transformers themselves. wall to wall visual noise with no real defined form and plenty of blinking lights and of course 'splosions. I wonder how they are going to get Shia Ladouche and the Jar Jar family to cybertron? My money's on a wizard.
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...yea the movie was a fun and dark movie (which stole my screenplay idea of the spear of longinus releasin the anti-christ or somethin like...) and I would love to see a sequel......knowthyself, thats what I wonder bout people...its known as a big budget summer blockbuster (meanin its gonna be dumb storywise), but people still expect a Citizen Kane story (about a fuckin toyline from the fuckin 80s)...also those same TF2 haters PRAISE Avatar for its "story"...wtf
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Bay somehow sweet talks Megan Fox back for a third and gives her a full nude sex scene with a robot I still wouldn't come near this one.
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I drink your energon! I DRINK IT UP!
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I get so tired of hearing people say he's good at it. I defy anybody to be able actually comprehend what's going on in any of his action sequences. They are so badly shot and edited they are nearly unwatchable. Cameron just gave us a clinic on action sequences.
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Yes, TF2 was that bad. I liked the first film for what it was but it is pretty much ruined for be after seeing a piece of crap second film. I can pretty much sum a person's entire being by whether they liked TF2 or not.
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The rash on my dick.
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...I can comprehend his action scenes...its not hard...all you do is, open your eyes, look at the screen, blink occasionally, and enjoy...now I defy you to make an action scene anyone would care about
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Out of curiousity.
Second one...No. Will i see the third...NO.
Not my demographic. And the demographic they targeted are being fucked with a blunt object.
Vote vith your money. People.
LUCAS: Do ZAK MC KRACKEN instead. The plot is hilarious and it would look cool as a flick.
1.LOTS of exciting locations. Many Real world.
2.Quirky humour and odd-ball characters.
Suitable for all ages, really. I would say that this story could cover ALL demographics.
THAT movie i would actually see. If they followed the plot w aliens making humanity dumber by bullshit media. The worst journalist ever takes it upon himself to save the world. (And win the pulitzer prize.) Follow it to a T(fat chance)and you have something entertaining AND a relevant message.
Oh yeah, TF3 and the Bayman. Uh, yeah, in the immortal words of DANNY GLOVER: Im getting too old for this shit.
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nuff said
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Anyone who likes this crap is a dumbass.
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I thought all the obscenely-profitable film series were getting rebooted this year?
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So obviously he's doing something right. My only minor comment is I hope the next one is shorter. TF2 seemed bloated over Tf1. Doesnt need to be that long. Give them nice action then send them home happy
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just to see what could've been done better. Especially if I'm a fan of the source material. It's like identifying the body of a loved one, you need to confirm your worst fears just in case they weren't killed by the concaine induced rage of a hack director. Or watching the trail of someone hacked to death your beloved pet dog. You want to make sure they're guilty of the crime you suspect them of.
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I hope to God that's a joke and I pray that sony wouldn't dare to think to cast him as spiderman.
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as he slithered through the door; Megan followed a few steps behind...rivlets of mascara still ran down her blushed cheeks, stains of black on her chest and thighs. "Ah...so this is the 'toy' he mentioned" mused Kate, the heavy dose of valium now flowing through her, "At least this one is legal, and from what I've overheard...willing"."Hey..sweetie, you're even prettier than on TV...my name is Kate Capshaw, don't believe all those stories you've heard from THIS asshole...it'll be just fine." Kate leaned close to Megan, as throbbing, familiar music began to drift into the entry way from a dark passage leading down to the right, and give her a soft kiss on her cheek close to her ear. Kates soft feminine lips felt good to Megan...reassuring; Megan felt Kate take her hand and pull her closer. "Here sugar...take this...it'll help later, trust me" Kate cooed as she secretly passed Megan the same high dose she herself had grown to favor..." you might even like it on this shit..." Kate continued as she pulled away. Megan quickly downed the dose...at this point being comatose seemed like a good idea. "Th...thanks Kate" sniffed Megan,...the heavy iron door down the passage slammed opened filling the room with insane music as Steven Spielberg sprinted up the stairs, drenched in sweat, scratch marks across his chest and wearing the same bondage gear favored by Bay. Megan knew the tune that filled her ears...it was the Cantina music from Star Wars...and it was blaring from the underground room she suspected she'd be introduced to soon enough. "God Damn it Mikey....get that nasty cunt down here...George took a double dose of Viagra and the shit is hitting hard! Kate....make some sandwiches will ya!" And with that..Steve ran back into the darkend room. Kate knew this was going to be a rough year...the phone calls from George, Harrison, and now Bay and this poor creature showing up....something was going on, something more perverse than usual...she would try to keep herself out of it...but deep down, she knew she would fail; 20 years ago she had been 'Megan', and she knew in reality she still was. "Poor little bitch..." Kate sighed as she walked to the kitchen..."At least she won't be their first of the night...if she's lucky they'll pass out before they can get around to pulling out the Twi'lek outfit for her...thats always the roughest part".
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Jan 15, 2010 3:51:03 PM CST
"won’t be as robot-heavy and there will be fewer explosions"
by kevin_costners_recycled_piss
Reminds me of that bit in Last Action Hero where Arnie's talking about his new Jack Slater movie: "We kill less people in this movie, this movie we only kill 48 people compared to the last movie where we kill 119 and I want to make sure that the action fans understand we make up for it with a good story, lot of emotions, depths, dimensions..."
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Disturbing, yet strangely erotic.
Throw Cameron in there somehow.
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mixed with frat boy humor and a redneck demolition video. If people eat this shit up imagine the success of a decent Transformers adaptation.
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Almost! You can only feel so much pity for a hot flavor of the month "It Girl" with the last name Fox.
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Is that too much to ask?
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would have made the director responsible for it be able to proclaim himself to be:
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Come on! Like he´s busting his head for what you guys think. He´s merrily strolling down to the bank, that´s what´s he´s doing. Go on, Bay! Awesome.
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I liked both TF movies for what they were, silly romps. I'll be there for the 3rd one without a doubt. The geek hyperbole gets a bit silly concerning them, it's a movie, watch it, don't watch it, there is a choice.
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I have not written anything remotley as disturbing as I have in the past...or will in the future. Now...if I wrote some sick twisted shit where Steve tells Bay the story of how Dakota Fanning got her part in War of the Worlds...THAT would be disturbing...and the ban hammer would fall.
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Jan 15, 2010 4:19:18 PM CST
Nathan Fillion for Optimus Prime is a Great Idea By Asimov_Lives
by rene_belloq_12inch_figure
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for the reboot, maybe just as in signs we wont see any robots until the last scene
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And it took me a seqond to figure out M. Bayson.....please don't drag street fighter down with bay
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And the all sparq is gonna be their midol. I should stop cuz bay is gonna steal these ideas.
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Not sure if this counts as cool (the movie will probably stink0, but...
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carry on.
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Bay needs to sit down and ask himself...what would JJ Abrams do?
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Ever since the first movie came out, I've been waiting for the day when Michael Bay comes to his senses and finally brings us a Transformers movie the way it's MEANT to be. Hardly any robots, for one. I mean...there were far too many in those first two. Also, way more footage of dogs fucking each other. Also, I can't get enough of that Witwicky family. Those parents, that Shia...god, the amount of finesse they bring to the roles they're given. I could deal with less Megan Fox and her slack-jawed dick suckin' lips and her greasy looking skin. But hey, if we're focusing less on the robots, then that's all I need. Because Transformers in a Transformers movie just...doesn't make sense.
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Jan 15, 2010 4:52:50 PM CST
Transformers 2 Was SHIT but not quite Wolverine Origins Shit
by spacezilla
They are both horrible horrible movies. Its just as a fan of Wolverine's I was way more offended by how shitty Wolverine Origins was. Goddamn that is the shittiest movie this year by far. It is so shitty it somehow made Terminator 4 seem not that shitty at first. Don't get me wrong T4 is really shitty. Its just at the time, it didn't seem as shitty as it does now and it had Wolverine Origins to thank for that.
Those are the 3 worst movies this year right there. Transformer 2, Wolverine Origins, and T4. But Wolverine Origins is among the most vomit inducing movies I have ever seen, and I have seen a lot of shitty movies. -
not shite, but i can understand how u made the mistake i get um confused myself
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I've watched some of it. Skipped through to the robot bits... but actually sit and watch it as a complete film.. Can't fucking do it. I feel infuriated that I'm wasting my time on such shit and skip to the action. I'd rather they make a full CG animated version instead.. sort of like the trailer for that War On Cybertron game that's coming out soon. That kicked ass.
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...feelings for the Spiderman movies in his post on T2, Wolverine and Terminator: salvation. Studios are all about rush rush rush, we want the cash, and REALLY don't giva fuck about quality. Not like we do or want. it really is all about the bottom line.
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Aha, you see, in my scenario Bay is asking himself why no one 'liked' his movie, not why it didn't make any money. He knows that his giant spectacle event movies will always make money, this time though he's just wondering why no one 'liked' this one. The fact that it made lots of money is no reflection whatsoever on whether or not it was good. Because the money changes hands *before* the viewing takes place. I paid my $10 to see Transformers 2, but that certainly doesn't mean I liked it. It was universally panned, I have personally never witnessed a single person saying they enjoyed it, if you could even find video footage of kids saying it was awesome, I'd be surprised.
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Damn you, Michale Bay!
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Jan 15, 2010 5:35:08 PM CST
Hate can also work against your desires to kill movies
by cylon_conspiracy
I liked Transformers 1. When TF2 came out, I figured I'd wait. I was more interested in Star Trek, figured I'd rent TF2 eventually.
But then.... well, I started reading the comments on sites such as this. "Worst movie ever made". "Most racially offensive film since 'Birth of a Nation'". "Nothing but Megan Fox looking slutty." "Filthy jokes, very inappropriate for the Transformers Franchise".
Then it got even WORSE.. and I realized, if I did not go and see this film I would be missing out on one of the most significant genre events of all time. Suddenly, I was enthusiastic as hell to see the film. New desires were born inside me. And as I left that theater I knew I had experienced something pretty damn well... significant. I may have thanked Jesus, can't remember. All I can say is, it rocked my world. -
It looks more like the first Mortal Kombat and less like either Street Fighter... and that's a GREAT thing! I don't expect much from movies like this. Hell, I thought Dead Or Alive was disposable fun for what it was.And was that Cary Tagawa I saw in there? Can't hurt to cast Shang Tsung!
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For these movie to make so much money people had to see to them multiple times due to how great they are. If TF2 was in IMAX 3D it would have made 2 billion dollars. Hollywood knows that good movies don't make a lot money: Titanic Avatar Deadman's Chest TF2 Ice Age 3 Spiderman 3 Shrek 2&3 Harry Potter Star Wars Prequels This is all part of Bey's "AWESOME" misinformation campaign. Bey doesn't know how to tell the truth.
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Why did we have to wait for the 3rd for it to be finally cool? Ghostbusters 3 will be cool FTW!
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That is all.
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Saying shit like “There will be a nice crescendo ending,” - What fucking hack piece of shit. The guy couldn't make a decent music video if he tried. Fuck Bay, and all the people who support his "work". Thanks for dumbing down movies even more you morons.
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Just to claim credit for breaking it on this site before they getting around to posting it sometime next week?
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Bay is the worst thing that has EVER happened to Transformers. fuck him.
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I have no idea what was happening in TF2, I'm ashamed I saw it in the cinema.
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they are shit movies and are probably responsible for killing the blockbuster, but there will always be mouthbreathing, knuckle dragging idiots who eat this shit up and beg for more. i'll just skip the theater that weekend and be done with it.
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But so much to not like about it and for me it was mostly the twins. I still think an edited version re the collage crap and the twins could make a movie on par with the first
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i.e much more action in the arctic circle or antarctica
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You didn't like it? You probably have never had it. Don't compare Avatar to these shit movies. Really, don't be a douche. I am tired of douches. Just shut it, and go back to your master who gives you what you want. Dropping fucking loads on your face.
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Jan 15, 2010 7:17:26 PM CST
Revenge of the Fallen was an utter fucking embarressment
by amazing maurice
And a complete insult to cinema.A scandleous waste of hundreds or millions of dollars that only serves as a testament for excess run amok - the glorious clusterfucked apex of Hollywood at it's most grotesque.The Robot had balls.
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Ass.
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Avatar was competent at least, even if i've seen that story a million times. Bayformers is just loud noises and splosions. its a whole new level of suck.
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You have seen a sci fi story before about a soldier who became paralyzed from the waist down and was given a choice to replace his brother in an Avatar program making it possible to breath the air of an alien planet. This avatar being 10 feet tall.
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I mean, it will take some serious effort from TF3 to surpass that.
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Don't expect either with Michael Bay.
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that Wolverine was worse than Transformers 2. That is an argument in that both movies are adaptations based on comics/cartoons that are beloved by fans and geeks for over twenty years. And both movies ended up being insults to the original source material and ended up being bad. But Transformers 2 is by far one of the most worthless pieces of shit that I have seen in a long time, in my opinion is far worse than Wolverine. Transformers 2 was pure dogshit. For me, when you start trying to figure out what were the best parts of a movie, and the only thing you can think of is the fucking "sound", that for me is an indicator that something is wrong. Transformers 2 is a piece of shit, bottom line, without question. It is too bad, it could have been a fantastic movie, and I honestly think it would have made even more $$$ if it was truthful and perhaps more coherent visually and narrative-wise to the source material.
Fuck Michael Bay. And it is obvious Spielberg doesn't give a damn about story, but the $$$.
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If you're going to reboot a series that is ridiculously successful then make it Transformers
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Because I loath Transformers 2 with a passion and liked Avatar quite a bit.
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Have you guys seen this trailer?
This is more truthful to the Transformers mythos, check this trailer...looks great. Which the movies looked liked this.www.gametrailers.com/player/60792.html -
I for one enjoy them. I'm looking forward to seeing the 3rd film. Here's hoping it's even better than T2.
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Nope, I hated Transformers 2 THEN, about ten minutes into it. The first one was craaaap, but I didn't loathe it, then and now, with a passion like I do TF2. Oh, and I liked Avatar, still do.
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Much as I enjoyed Avatar the fact is that the plot was basically the same as Dances with Wolves, The Last Samurai, Pocahontas and probably more I've forgotten.
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in the first two??? I call for a reboot!!!
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Here we go again with another TF bash. This site just fuels the fire of TF mania. I saw the first TF and liked it...everyone here talked shit, and I mean SHIT. At the same time, everyone here was praising 300...which in my opinion was nothing but toned down (PG-13) gay porn. Go figure, AICN Geeks love muscular men in loin cloths. But I digress...I saw the second TF movie, and I still liked it...and once again everyone here bitched and screamed "FUCK MICHAEL BAY". I know TF2 wasn't perfect, but it was still okay. The forest scene was awesome, the rest of the movie was too long and full of more annoying banter than a Tarintino movie, but it was still good. What annoyed me the most was all of you skinny weak pasty little white boys screaming that it was racist. My Black wife thought the black bots were funny...but what does she know huh. I guess a fat bean-bag red headed queer like Harry knows whats best for African Americans. If you want to call out racism in Hollywood, try watching anything on the Disney channel or BET. This whole TF hate thing has turned into an obsession with you fags. That's all you talk about...ON EVERY FUCKING THREAD! Look, Michael Bay is making so much money off these movies he could by your all of your families and have them work on his Hollywood Plantation. Get over it, lots of people like them and will pay to see them. These people aren't retards or scrawny nerds. The majority of them are pretty smart and can most likey beat the shit out of every one of you cellar dwellers. So in closing, I can't wait for TF3 and ya'll can go fuck yourselves/
PS I liked AVATAR too, but it was about as original as Dancing with Wolves, Pocahontas, The last Samurai, etc... I'm sure queers won't scream racism there, not when it's a Cameron film. Another movie about a white man saving some poor monkey people. I hope you all die...tonight -
Here we go again with another TF bash. This site just fuels the fire of TF mania. I saw the first TF and liked it...everyone here talked shit, and I mean SHIT. At the same time, everyone here was praising 300...which in my opinion was nothing but toned down (PG-13) gay porn. Go figure, AICN Geeks love muscular men in loin cloths. But I digress...I saw the second TF movie, and I still liked it...and once again everyone here bitched and screamed "FUCK MICHAEL BAY". I know TF2 wasn't perfect, but it was still okay. The forest scene was awesome, the rest of the movie was too long and full of more annoying banter than a Tarintino movie, but it was still good. What annoyed me the most was all of you skinny weak pasty little white boys screaming that it was racist. My Black wife thought the black bots were funny...but what does she know huh. I guess a fat bean-bag red headed queer like Harry knows whats best for African Americans. If you want to call out racism in Hollywood, try watching anything on the Disney channel or BET. This whole TF hate thing has turned into an obsession with you fags. That's all you talk about...ON EVERY FUCKING THREAD! Look, Michael Bay is making so much money off these movies he could by your all of your families and have them work on his Hollywood Plantation. Get over it, lots of people like them and will pay to see them. These people aren't retards or scrawny nerds. The majority of them are pretty smart and can most likey beat the shit out of every one of you cellar dwellers. So in closing, I can't wait for TF3 and ya'll can go fuck yourselves/
PS I liked AVATAR too, but it was about as original as Dancing with Wolves, Pocahontas, The last Samurai, etc... I'm sure queers won't scream racism there, not when it's a Cameron film. Another movie about a white man saving some poor monkey people. I hope you all die...tonight -
it's about time they got called on their bullshit. It's one thing to dislike a movie, it's another to insult everyone else who likes that movie, and demand the death of Michael Bay over his robo-bot movie, and to almost have a heart attack because people have different tastes than your own.
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The possiblilities are endless.
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Giant robots beating the shit out of each other sounds like such a great summer movie. So why have both Transformers films blown so fucking hard? Come on, lose the stupid cutesy humor, ditch the boring human drama, or if you have to keep the boring human drama, make it a little more involving than an MTV reality show. I was fucking embarrassed to have watch the second film. In no way was it aimed at an audience over 14. I have no interest in children's films.
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Jan 15, 2010 9:39:55 PM CST
If both Transformers sucked so hard, you SHOULD feel embarassed
by cylon_conspiracy
to have watched the second film. Let me guess you hit yourself over the head with a hammer repeatedly, hoping that eventually it will feel good? Don't you learn from your mistakes?
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I honestly like Michael Bay. The Rock was a fucking fun popcorn movie. Armageddon was cute as hell. And Bad Boys 2 is the most anarchic, hate filled adolescent male fantasy ever made. Those are badass trashy action films. Meanwhile, Transformers is simply trash. It's not that I'm an elitist, it's just that I don't like kid's movies. I want to see Michael Bay go back to making big boy action flicks.
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No sir, I went opening weekend with no idea about the idiotic humor, the robot nutsack, or Shia's dipshit parents on weed. I had read somewhere that the second film was going to be darker and toned down in regards to the kiddie stuff. So even after the moronic first movie, I was willing to give Bay, who is someone I think has genuine talent, another chance. As for why I didn't leave the theater when I realized he didn't deserve that second chance, well, I don't walk out on movies, no matter how shitty. I don't know why. I even sat through Exorcist 2. Some day if I'm rich I will bail on shit films, but now, I insist on getting every bit of movie from my dollar. I hate myself.
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Jan 15, 2010 9:46:56 PM CST
More robot interaction is what it sounds like. Autobot sex anyon
by monkey_king
More like Autoeroticbot. Heh!
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Please. For the sake of your integrity. Do NOT see TF3 then come back here and complain. You're strong. You can do this. Because eventually they are going to stop making these TF films and you'll run out of excuses on why you keep giving them chances.
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yes ive seen it a million times before. its the usual evil white man invades poor natives, one of the evil whities joins the savages and becomes their savior. its full of generic stock characters (its got fucking Michelle Rodriguez, need i say more?). and you actually list the fact that the avatars are ten feet tall as a plot point? is that enough for you? are your standards that fucking low, hahaha? no, no you're right. its a completely different movie because they were ten feet tall hahaha.
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must it be like inside that man's head?
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It would take a miracle to get me in the theater for part 3. If I hear from trustworthy sources that they've cleaned up their act, then I MIGHT sneak in. But after getting burned twice already, even that's a big maybe.
It's a bummer. I just want to see a giant robots beating the shit out of each other movie. Why is that film so hard to make? I want to see Black Hawk Down, only we're fighting giant fucking robots instead of Somalians. Something like that. Brutal, no dopey humor, and played straight and realistic in every way, except for the one tweak of adding robots. Kind of like how Dark Knight is a serious film in every way, except for the one tweak of the main character dressing up like a fuckin' bat. I like shit like that. But I'm weird. And lonely. -
It's true. You hate it you bate it
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You must be if you thought Black Hawk Down was good. Got a Josh Hartnett crush huh. Go see TF3...maybe it will cure your pussy gayness
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http://tinyurl.com/yko99pu
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You're pretty fuckin' cool, dude. Got your "I'm a little bitch, gimme attention" screen name, making personal attacks on people who dig movies you don't, and you don't even have the common courtesy to make up for it all by at least being funny. If you wanna be an internet troll, that's fine. But cocksuckers like you are a dime a dozen, so if you're gonna go there, at least be wittier than "haha, you like boys, you have a vagina!!! LOLZ!!!" Christ, I'm arguing with a high schooler, aren't I? I'm done.
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http://tinyurl.com/yg74as2
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You're bitching about TF on AICN...and I'm a "Dime a Dozen"! You fuckin fag, god you suck. High School and I'm not funny....yeah sure. You are totally the funnier and more original one in this fight huh. What's next..."Fuck Michael Bay". Dude you're a pussy. Face it. Fuck you and both of your dads. Now you're done.
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But this is the last time! I'm not bitching about anything. I'm on a movie message board, so I'm talking about movies. I didn't care for this one, but it's a genre I normally enjoy, so I was throwing my two cents out there. You're the one who started throwing around "fag" and "pussy" like a whiny little high schooler aching for attention. And no, you won't see me spouting the tired "Fuck Michael Bay," as I'm not interested in cutesy little bitch quips, or lame attempts at humor. I like movies, so I want to talk about them. No more, no less.
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You've never heard of renting a movie? Pay per view? Illegal downloading, even? Why do you all assume that every person who hates TF2 went to the theater to see it, or even bought it? There are other ways to check out movies. I didn't even see Transformers until it was on cable, because that's how much I dislike Shia LaDork. I saw TF2 when my roommate got it from NetFlix. So please, stop assuming that we're all bitching about a movie that we paid to see in the theater.
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Jan 15, 2010 10:27:10 PM CST
I don't buy that people were "fooled" into seeing TF2
by cylon_conspiracy
At least people that come to sites like AICN. The general public, maybe. But not people who for their hobby read script reviews for films that haven't even been greenlit yet, and test reviews for films that are 6 months away from being released.
By the time something like Transformers 2 hits theaters, 90% of the people here have already read at least 5 advance reviews from major print and online publications.
Which is why I can't understand how anyone here at AICN could have seen TF2 and not known what they were in for. Completely perplexing to me. -
I didn't see No. 2. And I'm not going to see No. 3. TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO!
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If you rented it or went pay per view, you're actually even lamer because by that time you have read at least 50,000 "Fuck Michael Bay!" posts and 300,000 "TF2 is a sign of the apocalypse" nerd reviews on AICN and the other genre sites.
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I went to see Transformers 2 with a friend, both of us knew it was going to be terrible, and that's why we went. We thought it would be funny-terrible, not terrible-terrible.
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That was more bark than bite. So anyone else wanna join in? I'm all ears. Give me a few reasons why not see TF2 or TF3 whenever it comes. When your done venting...I'll explain why you are a pussy with no brains, humor, or heart for that matter. You're just a sleazy little worm...just like the guy that runs this site. TF and Bay are just gonna keep makig money and I praise them for it. Thank God for capitalism. Eat a dick seabiscuit!
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Normally I'd actually agree with you there. When there's a new George Romero movie coming up, I've eaten up every bit of info there is by opening day. I'm fucking rabid for 70's horror, and while the man's current output is worlds away from his 70's work, he's earned my support for life on the strength of Martin alone. So I always know what I'm in for there.
But with Transformers... I never watched the show, I never read scripts before seeing movies, and I avoid most advanced reviews. Did I have an idea it might blow? Sure, especially after my distaste toward the first one. But that teaser they'd released looked like a serious, no nonsense shit blowing up movie. Michael Bay's made some good shit before. So I gave it a chance.
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That's exactly why I went. See I'm proof that people on genre sites know more than they think. I only went BECAUSE I heard how horrible it was. And I left thinking it was actually pretty cool for being so fucked up and bizarre. It's really a subversive mindfuck of a film. Not many people seem to appreciate it on the level it was meant.
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distinguished opinion. Us cave dwellers need your guidance on what to see and think.
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They all come with standard phrases like "FIRST", "TROLL", "I HATE MICHAEL BAY", "FUCK MICHAEL BAY", "TRANSFORMERS IS SHITE", and "I WANT TO FUCK MICHAEL BAY". Too original
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"FLAMES ON OPTIMUS =...."
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FuckMichaelBay guy at? I really want to smash his face in. I bet he's a soft bellied nerd hidding a pile of ANIME porn dvds.
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Good point, sir. That's exactly how I felt about Bad Boys 2. I truly felt like that film was Michael Bay flipping off the general public right in their faces. To me it seems like a very dark, intentionally prickly movie.
But when TF2 opened with a robot striking a pose and saying, "Damn I'm good..." it just completely turned me off. But I'm honestly open to giving the flick another chance if you think there's something there I missed. -
It looks like we cleared house! All the "F*** Michael Bay" rats ran off or were put to sleep. Good riddance.
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Jan 15, 2010 10:45:09 PM CST
I think there's a lot of "have your cake and eat it too"
by cylon_conspiracy
On the one hand, movie fans want to make themselves sound like the shit, and make other people think they are retards. And a good way to do that is to say "TF2 is for retards! Anyone who likes it has absolutely no taste!"
Yet... to come to that opinion, these haters have had to SEE THE FILM THEMSELVES!
They bitch about how if we keep supporting this "crap" that's all Hollywood will give us. Yet, you've seen the movie, even when you KNEW it would suck! Maybe you bought a ticket. Maybe you rented a DVD... no matter how you did it, you supported a movie you knew you would hate, just to have the elitist thrill at the end of the day of saying "I am better than you."
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And you people are assuming an awful lot. First, no, most of us (I would guess) did NOT read this entire talkback (or any other Michael Bay talkback) because we know what it (they) says. Second, my point was about people getting all in a bunch and pointing fingers if you say you hate the Tranformers movies, because they assume that we contributed to their massive box office while doing so. So again, you're wrong. I paid exactly ZERO dollars to see both of them. Also, I will voice my complaints about them until I DIE, regardless. They're crap. And I have a right to say that any way I choose. Further assumption, that every person who posts here spends all their free time going from site to site trolling. This is, 100% seriously - you could do a polygraph and I would pass, the ONLY movie site I've ever gone to. I spend most of my internet time on several REAL news sites, the official NBA site, Suicide Girls and about 75 music sites. If I run into movie news somewhere else, fine. But I don't seek it out. AICN is the ONLY place I read this kind of news and the ONLY place I comment about it (which is becoming more and more painful lately).
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all the tf2 hate has just flipped a switch in me. Now I've gone insane.
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I don't pay to support movies I don't like and I will be vocal about not liking those type of movies. If people don't understand why someone would do that then they really aren't getting the point (or the power) of a site like AICN.
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It ain't all this serious, either. People need to try discussing more and hating less. We don't all have to love the same things. Just thought I'd help run up the post count on a thread that, supposedly, nobody should be reading.
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There is no pocket of popular culture that does not shout "TF2 is the worst film ever made." It surrounds us, penetrates us.
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lol - I've never said "fuck Michael Bay!" I try to keep more comments and/or opinions a bit more sane and grounded than that.
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And I don't think it was that bad. I think the story was weak, the action was VERY hard to follow, the robots made a thousand ridiculous noises and had a thousand moving parts (just like the first movie) during the transformations and there were clearly racial stereotypes at play, if not outright racism. But I still wouldn't call it "the worst film ever". However, take into account how much money it DID make and you can see why the people who dislike it would be loudly incredulous.
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I'm still going to go see TF3. Hopefully it won't turn out like Spiderman 3. That was the last movie I walked out of. It takes a lot to get me to leave theater after paying for a movie. Hell, the only reason I didn't walk out of G.I Joe was because my wife had bought the tickets...but god did I wanna leave. I wanted to burn the theater down.
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Hmph!
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that's not an issue. To me it's just the "you liked transformers 2? OMG!! You're an idiot! RETARD ALERT!!" shit that is everywhere. I do read a lot of movie sites, whatever. But I'm so sick of seeing stories like "The popularity of TF2 is not a good indication of the intelligence of today's movie audience, however bright spots like Moon and D9..." shit just pisses me off. It's the elitist attitude that TF2=loser.
I liked D9 too. I like a wide variety of films. For some reason the elitist vibe just pisses me off, and I don't think it's ever been any worse than since TF2 came out.
Seriously, saying you like TF2 is like admitting you're a nazi.
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"...you wouldn't have watched a fucking Michael Bay movie about robots. Especially a sequel."
But I don't think I'm better. I actually like big dumb action movies. I like Michael Bay, and I like robots, and I love catching a flick in the middle of summer, with the big crowds that clap and cheer for amazing SFX.
And I too hate it when people say we shouldn't keep going to these movies or it's all Hollywood will make. Because Hollywood will always make these movies, no matter what. They're too successful not to, and I understand that. I just wish they could leave out the childish humor and robot nutsacks, that's all.
This is going to make me sound like a sheep, but I really think the guys over at Pixar have perfected the art of the all-ages event film. They don't feel they have to compromise their artistic integrity just to appeal to everyone. No, they appeal to everyone by simply making great movies. I'd love for Transformers 3 to be made with that work ethic. -
Thereby proving Bay knows what he's doing.
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Because then when I tell all my friends in line at the movies that we should catch Moon instead of The Hangover, I worry I look like one of those tight assed cocksuckers. But Moon fucking rules, so I do what I can.
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But all the anti-Bay comments just sort of blend together after a while. Like I said in a previous post, it's the people who judge you because you like one movie that need to be eradicated from the earth.
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I feel kinda warm and fuzzy that we've had a conversation about movies without either of us wishing the other guy's mother had had an abortion.
Possibly the most hopeful AICN back and forth I've ever encountered. Good day, sir. -
TF2 had the best sound design out of any film ever made. But you'll never know cos' you can't afford a nice home theatre system! Suck it!
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this is what I mean when I say subversive. I already knew to expect that scene and before I went I was thinking "shit, that's really going to ruin the movie for me. That sounds really gay." But when I saw it I was like "I cannot believe they actually did that. That is so fucked up that it is awesome."
All the humor I took on that level. I thought the jokes were funny because they made me so uncomfortable.
It reminds me of what's going on with Conan right now.. he's about to get fired and he's just making the most fucked up, inappropriate comments at NBC's expense that you have to appreciate it just for its boldness. That's exactly the way I see Transformers 2.
It's pushing buttons just because it can, and Bay actually got a studio to finance it. I haven't seen Bad Boys but I assume the same sensibility was at play there. If it was, I'll check those films out. -
With Nathon Fillion.
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We ALL have different tastes. Sometimes our tastes will cross over into other people likings, sometimes they'll travel a narrow path. Regardless, so long as we're all into movies, and the discussing of movies with an open mind, without hate, none of us are elitists. But I'll step off the soap box about that. (steps off soap box)Cylon, OK, I can understand that frustration. In an Avatar thread recently somebody thought they were high and mighty enough to label everyone who enjoyed Avatar "simple". If you like Avatar you must be a simpleton. I was, to say they least, more than a little annoyed by that comment. So much so that I think I'll just stay away from Avatar threads for a while. Anyway, I get where you're coming from with the wide generalizing comments. They're never true; ever! However, I just don't believe that ANY of this is justification for us (AICN reading and talkbackers) as a group to devolve into shit throwing trolls. I believe we're better than that. There's a real power to learn and share information here, as well as shape our own geek culture. I just wish people could see it more clearly through the thick haze of shit being tossed about.
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Jan 15, 2010 11:17:06 PM CST
No matter what bullshit spews out of butt-boy Bay's vile mouth..
by citizen sane
... there will be a great sucking sound at all the theaters in the summer of 2011.
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Oh how I long for an edit button. And I know we'll never have one. But, MAAAAAN I wish we did.
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But part 2 is so fucking insane there isn't a chance in hell it was accidental. As others have pointed out, the 'Directed by Michael Bay' credit appears over a burning cross, right before an extremely graphic slow motion bullet to the face. Movie is pure anarchy on film. I really do think Bay's a sharper cookie than people give him credit for.
Also, I don't wanna get political here, but Coco deserves a fucking medal for his last week of programming. Guy's on fire! While we're talking about giant nutsacks, I think we can all agree the most giant is his. -
Too much hugging and shaking hands going on. It's starting to sound like Dora the Explorer in here. We can agree to disagree. The line has been drawn. You're either with Bay or against him.
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Yes, of course. Nobody, I think, is trying to deny that will happen. My point is that it's not necessarily geek culture at large who created those box office totals. It's middle-America families and people hunting for the eighties of their youth. I'd love to see some exit polling for either of the first two, because I'm probably wrong. But I'd be willing to bet a lot of the people who saw it were males over thirty.
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I hate that it's nearly impossible to have real conversations about movies here. The majority of the comments are just assholes trying to one up each other in terms of vulgarity and hatefulness. Talking movies is geeky as all hell, but goddamn isn't it more productive when we're not wishing death on each other?
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tomorrow there will be plenty of people to come in and say that TF2 fans are "simple" and they deserve to be made fun of, because that's the only form of communication they understand.
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sounds like something the guy who directed TF2 would do. So I'll Netflix it.
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but ya can't let your guard down on AICN...the Bay haters will swarm if they sense weakness. I'm out, see ya guys at COMIC CON!
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youre a fuckin genius...im tired of this TF2 hate...i mean, it was more original than avatar
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"GRIMLOCK want to rape your childhood! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!"
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Does this mean that the robots will be in disguise? I have hated both transformers movies so I don 't care it there are more or less robots in it. Just another movie that won't be getting my hard earned dollars
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Now that sounds like a much better movie!
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Please supply some sort of thought to back up that statement. Like, maybe, the STORY was more original than Avatar. Because the movie as a whole definitely was not.
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But I'm still a genius. This I can say with certainty.
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Against him because he makes some awful movies that only a full retard, or a ADD afflicted 15yr old high on Pez can appreciate.With him because he is a notorious cunt hound...who only gave Megan Fox her role after he made her wash his Ferrari in the studio parking lot while wearing the smallest bikini he could find. That's a true story, not a Conspiracy story...look it up.Bay=Professional PIMP/Amateur Director
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Damn You Michael Bay
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Far be it from me to dispute your genius. I certainly have no evidence to the contrary.For me it's really simple: I like movies. So, if I like a movie, I like it. A VAST majority of the time it doesn't matter who made it or who is in it, I'll watch it. Even if it's people whom I've never enjoyed in any previous film (in whatever part they played in making it). However, I will go out of my way in some cases to make certain that I put as little cash in their hands while doing so. In very, VERY rare instances I will simply avoid a movie altogether. I dislike Shia LaDork to levels that my vocabulary can barely grasp when trying to explain (I've run out of adjectives, superlatives and analogies) and I had ZERO desire to see him in an Indian Jones movie, so I've never watched Crystal Skull. Strangely, I don't feel like my life is lacking in any way because of this decision. Did Megan Fox really do that? I'm less astounded that a rich beyond our comprehension producer would do that than I am that SHE would do that. Good luck with the rest of the career there, babe. lol
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Walked out of the first one.Refused to watch the second.Could give two shits about the third.Glad to see most agree.Good for talkbacks,though.I'll give Bay that.
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Because Michael Bay makes movies about Beta males becoming Alpha males. Geeks like movies where the Beta males gets super powers and makes everyone realize how special and quirky they really are, and in the end the heroes get the "attainable" girls. In a Michael Bay flick, Beta males are completely useless and must shred their geeky skins and step into the big leagues. Bay has no patience for a touchy feely motherfucker who just wants people to love him. Every Michael Bay film has had a geeky motherfucker goes through a transformation and becomes a fucking alpha male by the end of the film. What's more, these alpha males get to fuck the porn star looking girlfriends. THE END.
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All the fucking geeks want now are boring straight forward adaptation of what they revere in their childhood. Every mother fucker on here that hates Michael Bay is the type of shit stains that refuse to play with their toys when they were little, or whine to the other kids to "play right" when it comes to toys. Michael Bay as a child is the one kid that stuck his fucking GI JOES with explosives and blow them up, and actually play and BREAK his fucking toys (not that those action figures are terrible hard to break). So now as grown up, all these geeks revere their childhoods and put cheesy little shows on a pedestal as something that is untouchable, while Michael Bay goes out there and just blows shit up and actually "Play". I don't have a single fucking toy left from my childhood. I either fucking broke them a long time ago or simply have thrown them away when I realized they are pussy kryptonite.
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Cameron insists on presenting these fucking natives as "noble" and refuse to present them in any kinda reality. It's almost as if he's fucking embarrassed of the very people he's creating a metaphor for. Instead of actually doing some fucking research and presenting them in a realistic light (the feel that he was going for), he just makes up this perfect fucking race that makes no anthropological sense. I've never seen an aborigine this fucking hygenic. Every mother fucker I've seen on those nature shows all have sagging tits and balls, have half the wildlife shoved through their noses, and always smoking some fucking plants sitting in mud. The trick is to actually discover why they are that way, and provide a smart reason why they need to stay the way they are. (There is none btw, except for some bullshit the white man weaved out of their fucking guilt and superiority)
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thought Bay would refer to his dick as something like "The cock of God".
"Megan bow down and worship the cock of God!" -
various cartoon series through the years.
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I don't know if you're being over defensive or just goddamn beligerent.TF2 sucked wether it's a straight adaptation or not, it just was a very shitty sequel.I actually was given the Blu-Ray as a Christmas gift from one of my co workers.I guess she doesn't think highly of me as it might as well be a lump of coal.:P
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Seriously, the call him M. Bayson and no one else thinks of street fighter?
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He said it was such shit that he couldn't allow it. I love him.
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didnt stop them at the first two...
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what the fuck ever...Good luck trying to make that shit stick pal, 1.4 billion and counting, you can hate all you want, and keep trying to come up with preposterous garbage like that. Sure man, and Spongebob makes kids gay, the Smurfs are satanic, Tintin is racist.....grow the fuck up....
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pull creative shit out of their asses, at least its entertaining. Too bad they dont realize that no-one actually gives a shit....
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I liked TF1, TF2 was watchable for what it was, but I'd love a reboot to be honest. Transformers should be about the bots, not humans.
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moron brigade to provide me with all the numerous examples of wholly original stories and ideas/concepts contained in a film that we have never seen before, as in a film that is not clearly inspired/influenced by something that has come before. At the end of the day originality is all in how any story is told, and how ideas/concepts are combined. And I get the feeling I will continue to wait for a very long time....
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All these guys banging on about the 'magical negro' elements of Avatar are missing the point. If anything, it's a magical caucasian, reversing any accusations of racism.
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you'll find out 1 and 2 have become classics.
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the Complete Works of conspiracy?
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Jan 16, 2010 7:58:52 AM CST
Doesn't Michael bay realize we're just seeing his films to see h
by grooveraider
And no...some of us aren't paying to see his films. We have our connections ^_^
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After seeing it at the cinema, I watched TF2 again at home on DVD and found the last half-hour or so extremely exhausting to watch- the desert fight scenes with a lot going on at once, the mass explosions, the running, the yelling etc. It's just everything but the kitchen sink thrown in (at a point where you really start missing that kitchen sink.)
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Jan 16, 2010 8:10:07 AM CST
I just edited Revenge of the Fallen down to just 1 HOUR long...
by tylerzero
...took 99% of all the bullshit human scenes and subplots and made it into what a Transformers movie is supposed to be: Giant fucking robots beating the shit outta each other.
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I'm all for just watching giant robots hitting each other but the climax in the desert left a lot to be desired in terms of that. It's basically robots hiding behind pillars shooting at each other from afar.
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its the way the other fighting should have been.
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Can expect a new decepticon that looks like a missile when transformed and is called Cock (though he may try and fail to hide the obvious by calling it something like Kock).
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I loved how the other robots come rolling in after OP's death. It's like, oh hey guys! Ya missed it!
I listened to the commmentary and Bay said he loved the old Scottish robot (Jetfire) and wants more of that sort of character. So I suppose for the third movie we'll get a good chunk of it with a grampa robot tellin us young uns stories of the old days. -
lol that could be a bestselling toy.
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You know it.
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See the new cylons popin out her puddy
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The world DOES evolve around me. Maybe it doesn't REVOLVE around me, but it certainly does evolve around me. But I got what you meant, buddy.
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Sure it will have less explosions, but this time we're going to explore the inner life of these explosions. We're gonna find out what makes them tick. If Bay's smart, he'll spend more time and money on that franchise's biggest special effect: Megan Fox. Horny teens finance movies, kids. Just look at the twilight "phenomenon".
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1.4 bil? I put 60 dollars to that. Saw the film twice with the old lady. The first time in 3D and walked out because my head started to hurt around the hour and a half mark. Cameron was literally trying to fuck my eyeballs out of their socket with that 3D shit. So I came back to see it again in regular 2D, and paid extra for one of those adult theatres seats where you get to have alcohol. Verdict: Movie was pretty fun. It's good despite taking no chances with its story and characters.
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But "Jennifer's Body" failed, and it was a Megan Fox vehicle. Here is why...In the USA anyway..there is a HUGE difference between 15yr old dudes, and 15yr old chicks. Here 15yr old dudes would rather see Pissing Robots than tits. But 15yr old girls want allusions the the most forbidden things possible. So..though drenched in sex appeal no dudes went to see Megan in JB, but an ARMY of girls went to see Twilight.If Bay can make a Movie full of Pissing, farting robots, who team up with sparkly,soft, sexually driven vampires who purse a newly chaste Megan Fox....he'll beat Camerons ass.
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Tentatively scheduled to be available with any "synthetic" purchase over $29.95 at8920 Sunset Blvd. W. Hollywood Ca, 90069
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Will Smith/Nathan Fillion and Will Smith's son (shared role) star as conspiracy. The true story of conspiracy writing his stories. Watch the action as his fingers hit the keyboard.
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that no one thinks he's talented he's just competent at filming explosions and special effects. lol, all that money but deep down he still gets pissed when people call him a hack cause he knows they're right. fuck you michael bay. robot character? who are you talking to? 15 year olds?
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cause they have to take their parents to the flick, so it's 2 for 1. look over all the major releases of any reent year. if u can, add up all the budgets. those cg cartoon movies are very expensive. probably half the money in hollywood goes towards making movies that kids want to see so they will take their parents. thats why all the new kid movies are in 3d. now they are paying two for one with a 50% price increase. it's a shame.
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comma makes it better. anyways, i was plenty happy with aladdin and lion king, those movies had cool songs too. kids dont need these 3d shitfests. its funny so many adults spend so much money, watching fucking kids movies. tell your kids to shut up and rent them lion king. quit giving hollywood suits more money.
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The idea that "nobody liked it" is beyond idiotic. It was a fun popcorn movie. I enjoyed it. Its not as though TRansformers is fucking Shakespeare.
Its based on a fucking stupid-ass 80's cartoon, which was created to promote a line of fucking toys.
I could at least understand the fanboy pissing and moaning about Watchmen.
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According to hints laid down by the director, anyway.
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Here we go again with another TF bash. This site just fuels the fire of TF mania. I saw the first TF and liked it...everyone here talked shit, and I mean SHIT. At the same time, everyone here was praising 300...which in my opinion was nothing but toned down (PG-13) gay porn. Go figure, AICN Geeks love muscular men in loin cloths. But I digress...I saw the second TF movie, and I still liked it...and once again everyone here bitched and screamed "FUCK MICHAEL BAY". I know TF2 wasn't perfect, but it was still okay. The forest scene was awesome, the rest of the movie was too long and full of more annoying banter than a Tarintino movie, but it was still good. What annoyed me the most was all of you skinny weak pasty little white boys screaming that it was racist. My Black wife thought the black bots were funny...but what does she know huh. I guess a fat bean-bag red headed queer like Harry knows whats best for African Americans. If you want to call out racism in Hollywood, try watching anything on the Disney channel or BET. This whole TF hate thing has turned into an obsession with you fags. That's all you talk about...ON EVERY FUCKING THREAD! Look, Michael Bay is making so much money off these movies he could by your all of your families and have them work on his Hollywood Plantation. Get over it, lots of people like them and will pay to see them. These people aren't retards or scrawny nerds. The majority of them are pretty smart and can most likey beat the shit out of every one of you cellar dwellers. So in closing, I can't wait for TF3 and ya'll can go fuck yourselves/ PS I liked AVATAR too, but it was about as original as Dancing with Wolves, Pocahontas, The last Samurai, etc... I'm sure queers won't scream racism there, not when it's a Cameron film. Another movie about a white man saving some poor monkey people. I hope you all die...tonight
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None of your stated opinions make Avatar racist. In point of fact, they make YOU racist. Your post is silly. Moving on ----->
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Because they (I'd like to say we, but I wonder sometimes) spend the money that keeps our economy moving.
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Im not bothering to see the third one. Funny thing is neither movies made are really Transformer movies. Its just big robots fighting with dog humping and very loose references to the real material.
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Nice "dogs humping" reference. Any other ORIGINAL complaints? How about the old "flames on Optimus=..." joke. We love to hear that one again. Every comic book movie ever made has been a "loose interpretation". Go kill yourself.
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...so Im guessin in the brilliant original TF stories from the 80S CARTOONs didnt involve robots transformin into human vehicles and fightin each other...Im startin to think the saddest people in the world are those complainin that a movie is not exactly like what they remember from their toy collections...
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...if people bitched bout Avatar (the real one, ya know wit fire and water and air) not bein faithful to its source, I could understand cuz its a deep and thoughtful and smart cartoon...TF on the other hand main goal was to sell toys...nothin bout TF makes sense...why the hell are aliens turnin into cars and semi-trucks? where the hell does the leather seat go when they transform? or the cigarette lighter? how is the exhaust pipe turn into a laser beam?...some shit you just gotta sit back and enjoy (or at least not bitch bout) and the TF movies are that...so stop bitchin that the toys you played wit well into your thirties, doesnt have the right color scheme...fuckin fan boys
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...if flames on Optimus raped your childhood, let me say it didnt, life raped your childhood...cuz ya obviously never grew up
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Has that been done?
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...I like that name... "are you sam witwicky aka ladiesman98" or whatever lol...its one of the random lines me and friends like to say
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I hope bay has it in him to make a pretty good Transformers pic but i'll bet it will be shite. Everyone wll go see it though just to whip their dicks out in the cinemas and wank over Megan.
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Megan spawns optimus's child the foxbot..now how friggin awesome would that movie be !
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Drooling, head-smacking, lip-dribbling, mentally deficient antisocial dickehead...
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You're a fuckin pussy. Stay safe in the chat rooms dude. It's a big scary world outside. Faggot
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Pedophilia, butt sex, little boy syndrome, turkey legs, Michael Bay fantasies, skittles, and agoraphobia
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Barack Obama
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You're married?!!!
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married w/children, been the Army for over a decade, gotta house, cars, etc... Why does that surprise you? How do you think all of us "retards" were able to afford seeing TF2 and make Bay super rich. Let me guess....you're another Bay hater...on AICN...how out of the ordinary
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...cos you're launching unprovoked attacks on lots of people and being extremely homophobic. For some reason it surprises that a married man would act like that. Probably just me though.
I don't think you're a retard by the way. Thought Transformers was alright, haven't seen the second one.
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Having a father full of such hate, so deluded, the poor kids don't have any hope.
You have opinions, that is fair enough, others do as well, and a lot of the time people have opinions different to yours, that is reality, calling people "a fucking fag" makes you look about 12/13, grow up and deal with it -
to all the hatred coming from the other side. For every action there's a reaction, and IH8HARRY is the other side of the spectrum. If there's no one on here spewing hate and saying shit like "michael Bay please die", IH8HARRY would not react the way he is. So if you criticize him of his action, then I hope you're doing the same to the other side, even if they share your opinions.
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You have just shown what kind of low life scum pedophile you are by bringing my children into this forum. I would seriously kill you if I ever met you.
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The majority of you tramps have been spewing anti Bay rhetoric for at least 3 years now....on all threads. It's ruined this site. I don't even get involved with these talkbacks, I just come for the news and funny comments. But you Bay haters are out of control. You guys have said stuff about TF and it's cast that would make Charles Manson cringe. I'm here to bring things back to the center.
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Jan 16, 2010 7:26:52 PM CST
IH8HARRY - another comment I would expect from a 12 year old
by miyamoto_musashi
Grow up, its really that simple
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because...
Guess what: They were "RobotsInDisguiseTM"
Flames on Optimus=bad story decision to sell NEW toys. Easy as that.
EVERYTHING that people bitch about, from Goblin Power Ranger, to nipples on batsuits, means money in the bank for the people that had the creative property re-designed for their big screen exploitations.
Forget about official studio explanations such as: "This makes the actor EMOTE better."
Or: "That would look SILLY" or my favourite: "It would not make sense."
What "sense" does it make for an alien mechanical lifeform to drive around painted with flames?
Would that not..Draw attention to themselves? "Hey, look at me, Im OPTIMUS PRIME a RobotInDisguiseTM check out my bitchin' flames!".
Yeah, the cartoon and the marvel comic were designed to sell toys too.
That does not change the fact that the original toy commercial had a better storyline.
Because it wery well fucking did.
And for the record, i actually LIKE some of Bay's previous work. And i agree on that Ferrari story:
-One hundred percent fucking professional-.
After all, he had to make sure she looked HOT while washing a car wearing a bikini.
And he does seem to have a sense of humour about all this. His quotes are priceless.
I just think it was a HUGELY missed opportunity.
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would agree that there is a lot of people that go over the top in regards to Bay. It is a property they care about.
In regards to the negative comments re TF2 most of the comments are in line with the critics. 35 on metacritic, 20% on rottentomatoes. This isn't nerd rage here (i.e latest Star Trek, Avatar or even Dark Knight).
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I think he's calling everyone a fag because guys who are unsure about their masculinity will be offended by those remarks. Maybe he really does hate gay people, who knows, but it's just funny to watch people react. He makes me think of Triumph the Insult Dog.
Plus it's time most of you anti-Bay people got what's coming to you, seriously. Not liking a movie because it's just not your thing is perfectly fine. But there has been so many personal insults at Bay's expense that I enjoy seeing the insults. Blame the fan community in general that would rather destroy someone's reputation than admit they can be entertained by a popcorn movie.
The guy above who said Bay-Haters are betas and that Bay films are about betas becoming alphas is spot-on. There's something in the testosterone of TF2 that makes SOME guys here (not all) get in touch with their "What she needs is a friend right now, and I'm not going to disrespect her by making a move" mentality.
And forget Bay for a second... don't get me started on the anti-Megan Fox shit. SOME guys here (not all) are so threatened by her sexuality that they've turned her into some freakish uber-slut that eats babies for breakfast, when she's just a normal, good looking chick who is getting her career started, and has done absolutely nothing in her personal life that is tabloid-fodder, other than making a lot of funny smart ass remarks to reporters.
So you're not only dissing the masculinity of Michael Bay, but the femininity of Megan Fox.
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You might be one of my kids
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It's just like what they said on this eason of South Park...Fag is too much fun to say.
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Have you ever seen any action?
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lol haven't heard that one in awhile. Yes I deployed in 2003 around April time frame. If you wanna see it....go to your local recruiter...there's plenty to around even with Obama in office.
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lol haven't heard that one in awhile. Yes I deployed in 2003 around April time frame. If you wanna see it....go to your local recruiter...there's plenty to around even with Obama in office.
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We won't be able to follow any of it and it won't make a lick of sense.
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The same fuckin' comments from assholes like Orionsangels that we've been reading on AICN for 3 years now. TF3 is coming whether you like it or not...se ya there
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or do you just talk like an idiot?
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..where it comes from. Make an intelligent, reasoned comment or argument, express your opinion without insult, or you have no ground to stand on when pointing fingers at the way "other people" post, because you are those people.
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and Turtles. And the twins were like, "My bad!", "I screwed up!" and "Get yo ice cream!" lol...
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Let's see Shia screaming Bumblebee and the yellow bastard kicking every things ass so what's the point. Optimus Prime getting killed yet again because they love making kids cry and who can't get behind the tears of the young? Two little crass gangsta stereotypes and for a twist they'll thrown in a gangsta chick robot do the whole neck snap with attitude. No dinobots, No Unicron, and he'll fuck them up royal so don't scream too much for them. Two seconds of Megatron and Starscream gold and just filler time using Megan Fox and Shia's tired story arc. No fucking money out of my wallet unless Ebert the talkbacks all agree Bay pulled it out of his ass and actually gave up a great movie.
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those 5 words explain a lot
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I jizz myself every time I think about it.
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I read your shit yesterday and I'm still laughing at it. Great stuff!
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...were (by far) "Transformers 2" and "The Goods".
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He's the star. Not Shia. Optimus fucking Prime.
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By definition, a movie that has so many people who go see it is tapping into something that is populist and that people like.
If the fanboys and haters would just go to a fuckng movie to enjoy what was on the screen for what it is -- rather than going there to find ways to crap on it and piss and moan about it on an AICN talkbalk -- they'd have much better lives.
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a whole years has passed since tf2 - time to restart the series...
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Yes, we have a wuss in the White House that is scared to death of using the military to defend our nation. It's so obvious, that sentiment can be abbreviated to "even with Obama in office."
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Jan 17, 2010 7:28:09 PM CST
i refused to see part 2 since the first one sucked so much
by thunderdude
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Thats all you have to offer here? Your comment is even more worthless than your life. I'm sure Bay is really distraught over not getting your $10. If you don't like Bay's TF movies...make a better one.
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that second film is pretty shitty. sorry...
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Shitty? Maybe, but coming from a fag like you...that doesn't hold much weight. AICN is no longer a TF/BAY hating website. Myself and a few others are slowly purging rat-faced pedophiles much like yourself from this site. Take your lame remarks, 2 gay dads, and your H1N1 somewhere else.
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...sorry
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How do I know this? Bay and Spielberg want to make this movie more epic, in order to try and stay at pace with James Cameron's Avatar, in terms of being viewed as being groundbreaking...and of course, to compete with the visuals found in the landscape of Pandora. Cameron has out-classed everyone in Hollywood, as well as out epic-ed all would-be epic filmmakers, like Bay and Spielberg, for instance--so yes, the next Transformer's film will take place on the Transformers' home world; the very reason why Bay mentioned these crucial words: "This time you’re gonna get a much cooler landscape.”
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James Cameron used Avatar to point-out this fact: Truly intelligent people live in balance and peace with nature. Aboriginal people do not build nuclear bombs, or threaten to wipe-out their enemies, as well as their own people, and environment, with them, fools do, and it is those very same fools who have proven themselves to be truly weak, not superior, as they are threatening the whole world with global suicide, even their own families--only someone who is truly sick and soulless, does that. That is insane, and there can be no superiority in that. The real primitives think like that...and they play with nuclear bombs, and biological weapons. As Einstein once said, "I don't know how world War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." And...as for you, Tempurasan, you will be one of the very fools at the lead of the cave men tribes that will make-up the remainder of what is left of the human race, as you lead the battle, stick...and stone, in hand.
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That was beautifully written. You are truly intelligent and I bow down to your wisdom. Are there many like you in the land of Missed-the-fucking-point? I pointed out Avatar so-called racism to juxtapose the fuckers who insisted on TF2's racism. Do I really think Cameron as a racist bastard? Certainly not. I just think that he also missed the point, and that his portrayal of aborigine is a little naive. I'm also not a huge fan of his half baked gaia-theory spiritualism. His perfect Na'vi race also doesn't make too much anthropological sense. It seems highly unlikely that a planet would evolve where every species has usb 2.0 built into their skulls. But back to the Na'vi. It's obvious that he's trying to draw a connection to the aborigines living in the rain forest that the "civilized" world is so goddamn adamant on destroying. But at the same time, instead of trying to portray them in any kind of realistic or feasible light, he created this perfect race that literally has no faults at all. It's a goddamn fantasy, and it's poor fiction writing. Do I think they're beautiful and romantic? fuck yeah, because Cameron intended them to be that way. Do I think they're realistic, and therefore making a strong argument for his point? No. In the end, the film is fantastic entertainment, but it's no more than that.
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One can probably make a pretty strong argument for that, especially when one take into considerations my feeling toward the Vietnamese (I'm Vietnamese btw). But it's hard to defend the Viets when you live in the middle of the OC.
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Are you related to Bay or Orci ?
You are completely full of crap to levels rarely seen on this site. And believe me this site has people regularly full of crap
I can only hope you aren't real and just a character someone pretending to be a stereotype of a redneck, probably modeled after the guys from Deliverance. Or maybe you modeled your character on the Chris Cooper character from American Beauty. Your constant mention of "fag" and pedo seems to allude to your thing (your character's) for young boys. -
Jan 18, 2010 5:21:36 AM CST
Michael Bay comenting on soud design and character developement!
by asimovlives
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!Because that hack is such an authority on proper use of soud design and character development in movies, as exemplified by the movies he made!Fuck's sakes! Unbelievable!! Who's the assclown who though interviewing him for those subjects was a smart idea?
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because you sound like a crazy bitch. I like how you relate me to being a white trash redneck... Lol even though I'm not from the (dirty dirty) south, I hate country music, and I didn't grow up in the trailer. I guess because I didn't vote for Obama that must also make me racist by your logic...oh wait my wife is black too. You on the other hand have exposed yourself to be a young liberal douche who helped vote the biggest failure...since Bush.
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you're fun to shit on...so keep posting.
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They are far less enthusiastic and defensive of their prefered hack, of course. They are now reduced to calling Bay "a great/the best action director". Which is a very pathetic thing to say. But at elast they are not calling him an outright "best/great director". a progress of sorts, i guess.
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... after some archeological diggings at this site, i noticed that once upon a time it was mandatory to kiss Bay's ass in this. Or else you would be accuse of not liking movies and not knowing how to have fun (always the same bulshit excuse to justify the hacks, today and yesterday). Even as far back as the first Trransformers movie, it was hip to like Bay and his movies. He used to be the hack d' amour of this site. Seems finally the majority og the geeks here finally woke up to the extreme obvious shitiness of Bay. It took them more then 10 years to see the very obvious, but they finally saw it. Better late then never, i guess.
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Bay has always been hated here. You tried that same shit with Will Smith and were just as wrong then. Straw man arguments must be the rage in Portugal these days.
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Aren't you the guy who defended the choice of Ratner as director for Conan?
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I don't get it? People here are complaining about how shitty TF2 was and yet they went to see it at the theatre, KNOWING IT WAS FUCKING SHITTY.And now they complain about how bad it was...Maybe if the non-knuckle draggers had decided to boycott it, instead of going because 'there's nothing else good playing', we would not have to suffer through another one of these crapfests....Do NOT support Hollywood's creative bankruptcy....
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... then how come he's so obsessed with box office results and justify his career on "popular support"? And why he bitches like a bitch about the critics pissing on his movie? Thing is, Bay really cares aobut what others think. He's just so stupid and clueless he doesn't understand the criticisms.
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Of course you are, forget i even asked. And yeah, good luck trying to sell the idea that for the majority of the time Bay has been hated in here by the majority. Yeah, right. And what the fuck is your coment about Will Smith about?
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1) 150 million dollars on cocaine.
2) 25 million dollars on CGI
3) 15 million dollars on Megan Fox
4) 9,999,999.99 million dollars on advertising
5) .01 on acting classes and script (one draft, written on back of napkin near coke mirror, no edits). -
This site has been a Bay hater since day one. Now you Bay haters are just flat out dilusional. I'm sure you could make a much better movie. You know there's a saying in the NFL about queers who question coaching decisions. They're called "Armchair Quarterbacks". We need to start appling a similar term to assholes like you that always question directors....especially ones that make millions of dollars.
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He's full of more shit than Michael Jackson's lawyers.
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1) 2 Hours of Bed wetting
2) 3 Hours of wearing womens clothes and seducing the neighborhood men
3) 8 hours suppressing his pedophilic urges by watching old reruns of Punk Brewster.
4) 3 more hours of weraing womens clothes and getting pounded by the neighborhood men.
5) 1 hour of eating feces.
6) 6 hours of watching Obama's Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech.
7) 30 minutes of...this one is kind of a blur.
8) 30 minutes on AICN writing unintelligible gibberish about Miachael Bay -
just like LaserPants fecal eating urges.
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Transformers 2 didnt win with the globes, do you think Bay was expecting something? No gi joe either.
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got handed by Mr James THE EMPEROR Cameron? put on some ice,if it still hurts mate
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... "Big".
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I'm sure Bay and his millions upon millions of dollars are just fine. But I think you want Cameron to crush his hotdog in your ass. Settle down.
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How the fuck would YOU know if this site has loved or hated Bay from day one?
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Yeah that's me. You got a good memory. It's been a fucking while. Reason I defended him is because he seems to be the only Guy left in Hollywood to pull the Candace back and keep the fucking camera still when directing an action scene. And he wont let his fucking editor go to town on an action scene either. The strength of a new Conan movie will lie in the script and its action scenes. And he's the only fucking director to leave those alone nowadays. But its irrelevant now. Who's the director of Conan now anyhow?
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You must be a very pleasant Guy to have around. Anyone ever told you that? The only other person besides IH8HARRY that seems to be completely obsessed with Bay in this thread is you. You seem to be in every thread about michael Bay, a director you "despised" so much. It's a little unhealthy, bud.
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That means that he was influenced by Avatar LOL. MB is so fucking uncreative. He totally fucked up Cyberton. He made it look like a desolate barren wasteland. He should of pimped it out like Coruscant.
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tempurasan, you do realize that avatar is "fiction" not a "documentary" right? So some of the things that seem unlikely, or impossible, are acceptable, especially when they are consistent with the film-worlds rules and the audiences expectations of what they will see.
There is a difference between Bay's stereotyped african american robots and Cameron's totally clean amalgmation of multiple native people. Basically, one of them exaggerates a minority's/classe's traits for comedic/derogatory effect (as far as I can tell, haven't seen the film) and the other holds up the nobler parts of several types of cultures for emulation.
and, michael bay does suck. Many people hate transformers because it is an example of everything wrong with film- exploitation of past franchises, disregard/respect for canon/characters/ commercialization, effects over plot and character.
not to mention the total lost potential of a great adaptation. If someone had tried to make the movie a little more of a mature way, kids and adults would have been able to enjoy it for a long time, and probably gotten better reviews, no matter how "derivative" and "cheesy" it would be. Kind of like how Avatar stuck with what works and used a story that, even though was not really original, presented it in a way that everyone could enjoy.
While I think TF the new franchise sucks, and anyone who likes them is an idiot, I do accept the fact there are people who like TF2 (unfortunately). I am sure someone like you who enjoys movies though, would probably be able to imagine Transformers made by Cameron or Ridley Scott (in his SF heyday). And if that isn't the movie you'd rather see...well its things like that I really don't understand. -
Yeah... I realized that Avatar is fiction... hence I said "poor fiction". Cameron obviously aimed for a more serious theme, and he obviously wants to make a connection to the different aborigine. There's nothing wrong with the "noble" representation that he came up with, it's just unimaginative and quite boring, and safe. There's one thing that turns me off when I'm watching a movie, and that is when a movie is a safe. I go to the movies firstly to be surprised. The success of Avatar just re-enforced my beliefs that most people do not like to be taken outside of their comfort zone when it comes to movies. If they were, guys like Werner Herzog would be a common household name. But alas, Cameron is shrewd. He knows people don't like new things, so he basically make a best-of remix of everything that has been proven successful and safe. It's okay if you like that... I jsut don't think you are very imaginative or adventurous when it comes to moviewatching. Which is a shame, considering that this site was created as an "alternative" to the mainstrain Hollywood audience. One would think a visitor here would welcome the weird and fucked up, and have an open mind about movies. But you guys are just as boring as the mainstream soccermom audiences, oversensitive to the slightest raw humor. What's worse, people here have taken on an elitism about film in general. You guys are so insecure that you can't even enjoy a dumb action film like TF2 without feeling like you just raped a small baby. Really think about what you're doing. You're judging people's intelligence based on their MOVIE TASTES. That's small minded and discrimatory, and it's just silly.
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The first movie was more about the GI Joe army boys, who let the Autobots hang around with them. TF2 had way too many stupid scenes that were looking for cheap laughs - Sam's mum being stoned at college was the worst thing I'd ever seen. The fact that the Autobots left Sam's protection up to the goofball brothers who started the film as an ice-cream truck is what did it for me. The film could have been great if Ironhide or Ratchet were given the opportunity to protect the kid WHO HAD THE INFORMATION TO SAVE THE WORLD. It would have been a more sombre mood, but would have allowed for more development, especially after the death of Optimus.
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I don't care if it's Bay, Spielberg, Burton... if the script and story aren't up to scratch, it's not going to be a good movie. Maybe there was pressure from the production company to make it more family-friendly. That's where they needed to tell them to fuck off and let them do it the right way. TDK wasn't family friendly, yet somehow made more money than Batman and Robin...
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And got treated like total shit. Someone should dig up those posts... he was completely disrespected. Those are the sociopaths that must be eradicated from the earth.
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and in reference to your Michael Bay Sterotype robots...apaprently you've never listened to a rap song, watched BET, or seen anything that Disney has put out over the last 10 years. All are true sources of sterotypes. You just wanna hate Bays nuts, but deep down inside...you want them... deep down inside...of you....that's right, balls deep.
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Like the cartoon was sooooooo deep and serious. The original movie had a song called "Dare to be Stupid" on it by Wierd Al. It was the gayest thing ever in the history of cinema. So I think Bay and his dog humping scenes/pot eating mom characters stayed true to the original cartoons. You still play with dolls don't you.
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Deal with it
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I love T2, the Abyss, and Aliens. Avatar was unoriginal but still good. But no matter what Cameron does, I will always see him as the inglorious basterd who made Titanic. That movie is the worst, cheesiest, teen machine ever forced down our throats. It's like Twilight, Armageddon, and New Moon rolled into one giant teen soap opera abortion. It's just like that old saying: "You can build a thousand bridges, but suck one dick and you're known as a cocksucker, not a bridge builder". And that's what Cameron is....a cocksucker...a very rich cocksucker.
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I'm not saying they should make a live action movie of the cartoon. I don't hate you for liking TF, that's your opinion. I suppose I just wish it was something else, and I was disappointed that I couldn't find a whole lot to like about it. But hey, you enjoyed it, well done to you. I just don't think it would have been too hard to make a film that appealed to adults who grew up with TF when they were kids as well as kids of today. In my opinion, they failed. I'm not alone in my disappointment of the film, so in some regards it's a failure. In others, Bay and the team have done well to earn themselves buckets of cash. I'm just saying I didn't rate the film. Your earlier posts didn't resort to name calling, so let's just ease back on people with differing opinions, huh?
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I'm cool with it
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Yeah I liked the first one but the second one was hard to watch. Bay is clueless. I fully expect Optimus Prime to hump somebody in this one.
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Well its very rare to see an entirely original story, but its nice to at least see one thats well told. But I have to say, in response...
1) Herzog etc have nothing to do with Bay. Their stuff is CRAZY. I don't really like it, but I still see how it would really get some people going. American Psycho took people out of their comfort zones too. Bay's stuff is like what a 12 year old comes up with. Its exactly WITHIN everyones (by which I mean Some Executive, Retard Pre-Teen, General Populace) comfort zone, and thats why its being bashed. I would say Cameron took a lot of people OUT of their comfort zone (the average person, that is) by telling a story with some pretty relevant themes and characters. Every regular person I have talked to has said the movie is a metaphor for "society/war/whatever". Derivative or not, I haven't seen that happen for a while. On paper, the movie is maybe not so good, up for debate. But in the field, its a GOOD movie. People had fun, and it made them think and talk. Rare these days.
2) Its not so much which movies, its the reason they like the movies, that I judge. TF (haven't seen TF2) is pretty bad. TF2 I hear is even worse. TF had huge plotholes. It pooped on the original stuff. And no one cared because it was "fun". So if you can sit and watch 90 minutes of cinematic chaos, 360 pans, pre-teen level ham handed jokes, and instead of thinking "wow, that movie could have been a LOT better for the money" you think "that was fun, my favorite part was the robot who peed! ", then yes I question your intelligence.
Theres a difference between having guilty pleasures and liking shit movies. I don't go around trumpeting my love and defending the crap movies I like (ie Bill and Ted). I accept they are crap and that I like them anyways, and its a guilty pleasure.Whatever. Many people share it. But I will never try convince someone that Bill and Ted is "fun" movie. But the people that like TF2, instead of accepting its shittiness, just say "No it wasn't bad!" or "Yes, it was shitty I guess, but I LIKED IT, and you haven't a leg to stand on!" I don't think you can really defend a movie like that. Blockbuster or not, it sucked. Now if someone likes TF2, but understands it sucks, but doesn't really care, thats fine. But if someone thinks TF2, honestly, was a GOOD movie...then yes, someone is an idiot. I hope that made sense..?
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Avatar does nothing to take people out of their comfort zone. In fact, Cameron made sure he does NOTHING new in terms of story, plot, characters, pathos, and themes to make sure he doesn't take anyone by surprise. Because of this (and its mind blowing visuals and great action scenes), Avatar is making more money than god. Everything about this film in terms of plot and characters have been recycled verbatim from other movies. I knew exactly how the movie was going to end going in, and nothing that happened in the film surprised me. Not one moment in the film really had any suspense for me. I still enjoy the film for its strength, but saying the film took people out of their comfort zone and asked challenging and difficult questions is just silly. Now TF2 took people out of their comfort zone. It did that with its off color stereotypes and its over the top action scenes and just the energy of the film itself. It did that also by being unpredictable at every turn (therefore sacrificing any kind of coherence and a semblance of a story), but it did it. The first time I saw that I was literally overwhelmed by the last half hour on some sort of action overload. Is that a downfall of the film? to some people yes, in fact... to most. But for me, it just warrants repeat viewings, and for me to discover something new everytime I watch it. As for the whole "the reason people enjoying TF2 makes them idiots" angle you're working with. You're judging again. There are many ways people can like a film. Now if someone likes TF2 for Megan Fox and its CGi, and goes to Avatar and likes the film for its CGi and the way Neytiri looks, do you look down on that person too? And what's wrong with liking TF2 for its humor? It's the same type of off color humor that Eddie Murphy used to work with in his two highly popular stand ups back in the day. But I'll tell you why I like TF2, so you can look down on me too. I liked the film for its absolutely relentless energy. Everything from shots framing, camera movements to editing ensure that energy and kinetic momentum is kept up throughout the film. Even in moments like plot reveal that would bring most films to a crashing halt, Bay ensure that something would be happening to keep the momentum going. It caused a very exhausting movie viewing experience, but as I said, it made repeat viewings a little more enjoyable. I also loved Bay's enthusiasms for action scenes. I understand the complaints that the robots are too complexly designed that it confuses the eye, but the way he shoots his action scenes are impeccable. Long takes, much longer than any director are willing to do nowaday, and really intelligent blocking and framing of shots. Bay always make sure that he treats these robots like the giants that they are, and film them accordingly. The first film was shot like it was a monster movie. What I meant is that every shot of the Transformers were shot from a perspective of a human. If you can bear watching that film again, pay attention to the way he shoots the Transformers. There's always a human in frame, and it's always from their perspectives. In Transformers 2, he realized that the same concept would be cause diminishing returns so he pulled the camera back and shoot them in all their splendor. I love the music of the films. Don't have to explain myself there. And this is a controversial opinion, but I actually love the designs of the robots. It takes it out of the 80s saturday morning cartoon feel and put it in the present day. These robots are being treated like alien cybernetic organism, and not just robots. They're sentient beings that are highly complex, but they're also more organic in designs (which explains why they bleed in TF2). They are alien in designs, unlike anything that would appear "Earthlike". Imagine if human transforms. Take away our skins and we're highly complex as well in our designs. Same concept with the Transformers, skinless and metal with Armor. Last note: to the fucking idiots complaining about how flames on Optimus are only there to sell more toys... WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK THE ORIGINAL SERIES EVEN EXISTED??? TO SELL MORE FUCKING TOYS!!!
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Jan 19, 2010 6:34:08 AM CST
DocPazuzu, because it's so hard to read posts from the past
by asimovlives
Very fucking hard to research posts from the past in this site, isn't it? Because there isn't even a search option in this site, is there? Fucking retard!
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Being one of his early supporters. I was engaged in verbal sparing matches daily with all the board veterans. All of which accused me of being a paid studio plant. AICN has never been a Bay friendly atmosphere. Every single Robot design during the TF1 production was ripped to hell on back on this board. Bay has always been universally hated here by most.
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The more and more rumors come in about spiderman the more i believe this. I say james cameron for both movies with michael biehn and sigourney weaver, linda hamilton.
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DocPazuzu and Ganymede3001 have got it right and you've got it wrong. I don't know what posts or search results you're referring to but I was a participant in those first TRANSFORMERS Talkbacks and I remember the anti-Bay sentiment being the majority opinion.
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When reading "this time you’re gonna get a much cooler landscape", I can only think of Planet Cybertron.
Also I'm wondering, if they manage to claim the Decepticon-Transmission from the Sequel as a fake or not.
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