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For Immediate Release
Jan. 14, 2010
HBO MINISERIES PRESENTS THE PACIFIC, AN EPIC TEN-PART EVENT, A PLAYTONE AND DREAMWORKS PRODUCTION, XECUTIVE PRODUCED BY TOM HANKS, STEVEN SPIELBERG AND GARY GOETZMAN, AND STARRING JAMES BADGE DALE, JOE MAZZELLO AND JON SEDA
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BASED ON THE TRUE STORIES OF MARINES IN THE PACIFIC THEATER OF WORLD WAR II, EXCLUSIVE HBO PRESENTATION DEBUTS MARCH 14
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Directed By Carl Franklin, David Nutter, Jeremy Podeswa, Tony To, Tim Van Patten And Graham Yost;
Written By Laurence Andries, Michelle Ashford, Bruce C. McKenna, George Pelecanos, Robert Schenkkan And Graham Yost.
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“It is not a history, and it is not my story alone. I have attempted, rather, to be the spokesman for my comrades, who were swept with me into the abyss of war.”
– Eugene B. Sledge, With the Old Breed
The epic ten-part miniseries event THE PACIFIC, based on the true stories of World War II Marines, debuts with Part One on SUNDAY, MARCH 14 (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET/PT), followed by other parts debuting on consecutive Sundays at the same time through May 16.
The HBO Miniseries presentation of a Playtone and DreamWorks production is executive produced by Tom Hanks, Steven Spielberg and Gary Goetzman, the producing team behind the Emmy® Award-winning and Golden Globe-winning 2001 HBO miniseries “Band of Brothers.” Hanks and Goetzman also executive produced the HBO miniseries “John Adams,” which won a record-breaking 13 Emmys® in 2008.
THE PACIFIC tracks the intertwined real-life journeys of three U.S. Marines – Robert Leckie (James Badge Dale), Eugene Sledge (Joe Mazzello) and John Basilone (Jon Seda) – across the vast canvas of the Pacific Theater during World War II. The miniseries follows these men and their fellow Marines from their first battle with the Japanese on Guadalcanal, through the rain forests of Cape Gloucester and the strongholds of Peleliu, across the bloody sands of Iwo Jima and through the horror of Okinawa, and finally to their triumphant but uneasy return home after V-J Day.
The miniseries is based in part on the books “Helmet for My Pillow,” by Robert Leckie, and “With the Old Breed,” by Eugene B. Sledge, with additional material from “Red Blood, Black Sand,” by Chuck Tatum, and “China Marine,” by Eugene B. Sledge, as well as original interviews conducted by the filmmakers.
THE PACIFIC is an HBO Miniseries presentation of a Playtone and DreamWorks Production; executive producers, Tom Hanks, Steven Spielberg, Gary Goetzman; co-executive producers, Tony To, Eugene Kelly, Graham Yost, Bruce C. McKenna; producers, Cherylanne Martin, Todd London, Steven Shareshian; co-producers, Robert Schenkkan, George Pelecanos, Michelle Ashford; supervising producer, Tim Van Patten; directors of photography, Remi Adefarasin, B.S.C. and Stephen Windon, A.C.S.; production designer, Anthony Pratt; music by Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli and Blake Neely; music supervisors, Evyen J Klean, Deva Anderson; casting, Meg Liberman, CSA, Cami Patton, C.S.A, Christine King; editors, Alan Cody, A.C.E., Edward A. Warschilka, Marta Evry, A.C.E.; visual effects supervisor, John E. Sullivan; special effects supervisor, Joss Williams; costume designer, Penny Rose; historical consultant, Hugh Ambrose; senior military advisor, Capt. Dale A. Dye, USMC (Ret.). HBO Miniseries president Kary Antholis is the executive in charge of the production.
Parts One, Seven and Nine are directed by Tim Van Patten (HBO’s “The Sopranos”); Part Two is directed by David Nutter (HBO’s “Entourage”); Parts Three and Ten are directed by Jeremy Podeswa (HBO’s “Six Feet Under”); Part Four is directed by Graham Yost (HBO’s “Band of Brothers”); Part Five is directed by Carl Franklin(“Devil in a Blue Dress”); Part Six is directed by Tony To (HBO’s “Band of Brothers”); and Part Eight is directed by David Nutter/Jeremy Podeswa.
Parts One, Two, Seven and Nine are written by Bruce C. McKenna (HBO’s “Band of Brothers”); Part Three is written by George Pelecanos (HBO’s “The Wire”) and Michelle Ashford (HBO’s “John Adams”); Part Four is written by Robert Schenkkan (“The Quiet American”) and Graham Yost; Part Five is written by Laurence Andries (HBO’s “Six Feet Under”) and Bruce C. McKenna; Part Six is written by Bruce C. McKenna and Laurence Andries and Robert Schenkkan; Part Eight is written by Robert Schenkkan and Michelle Ashford; and Part Ten is written by Bruce C. McKenna and Robert Schenkkan.
In addition to James Badge Dale (“Rubicon”), Joe Mazzello (“The Sensation of Sight”) and Jon Seda (“Close to Home”), actors featured in THE PACIFIC include (in alphabetical order): Jon Bernthal (“Eastwick”), Joshua Bitton (“National Treasure”), Dwight Braswell, Betty Buckley (HBO’s “Oz”), Tom Budge (“Last Train to Freo”), Josh Close (“The Unusuals”), Nate Corddry (“United States of Tara”), Matt Craven (“Public Enemies”), Linda Cropper (“McLeod’s Daughters”), Caroline Dhavernas (“Breach”), Noel Fisher (“The Riches”), Brendan Fletcher (“88 Minutes”), Leon Willem Ford (HBO’s “Tsunami: The Aftermath”), Scott Gibson (“Breach”), Josh Helman (“McLeod’s Daughters”), Ashton Holmes (“Smart People”), Brandon Keener (“He’s Just Not That Into You”), Isabel Lucas (“Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen”), Rami Malek (“Night at the Museum”), Martin McCann (“Closing the Ring”), Ian Meadows (“Home and Away”), Toby Leonard Moore (“Dollhouse”), Henry Nixon (“The Black Balloon”), Keith Nobbs (“The Black Donnellys”), Conor O’Farrell (“C.S.I.”), Annie Parisse (“Law & Order”), Jacob Pitts (“21”), William Sadler (“The Shawshank Redemption”), Gary Sweet (“Police Rescue”), Anna Torv (“Fringe”), Claire van der Boom (“Rush”) and Dylan Young (“Canal Road”).
Principal photography for THE PACIFIC was completed on location in Australia’s Far North Queensland and Victoria over a ten-month period beginning in August 2007.
ABOUT THE STORY
On Dec. 8, 1941, just over 24 hours after the Japanese surprise attack on the U.S. Naval Base at Pearl Harbor, Congress issued a formal declaration of war against the Empire of Japan. For a decade, tensions had been mounting between Japan and the U.S., as the Japanese expanded their conquest of a large region including much of China and Southeast Asia. As a result of the bombing of Pearl Harbor, the United States officially entered World War II, already in its third year of being waged by countries of the Allied powers, including the United Kingdom, the Soviet Union, China, Canada and Australia, against the Axis powers of Japan, Germany and Italy.
Practically overnight, military recruiting offices across the country were jammed, as thousands of Americans rushed to enlist in the armed forces. Many of those young men chose to join the Marine Corps, which saw its ranks more than triple in the six months following Pearl Harbor.
While HBO’s miniseries “Band of Brothers” followed the experiences of one company of Army paratroopers in the European Theater of Operations, THE PACIFIC depicts the war a world away in the Pacific Theater of Operations, which encompassed most of the Pacific Ocean and its islands, including the Philippines, the Netherlands East Indies, New Guinea and the Solomon Islands. This miniseries follows the intersecting odysseys of three men of the 1st Marine Division, an infantry division nicknamed “The Old Breed” for its position as the oldest and largest active duty division of the U.S. Marine Corps. With the support of their fellow Marines and comrades in the Navy, Air Force and Army, the 1st Marine Division was at the forefront of many of hardest-fought campaigns of the Pacific War.
Private First Class (PFC) Robert Leckie (played by James Badge Dale) grew up in Rutherford, NJ, one of eight children. He began a professional sportswriting career for the Bergen Evening Record newspaper at age 16. Leckie, who would be christened “Lucky” by his comrades in arms, was one of those who enlisted in the Marine Corps just after Pearl Harbor. He served with H Company, 2nd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division as a machine gunner.
Sgt. John Basilone (played by Jon Seda) was raised in Raritan, NJ, one of ten children of Italian immigrant parents. In 1934, at age 18, Basilone enlisted in the U.S. Army and served three years in the Philippines, where he was a champion boxer. After a brief return to New Jersey, Basilone enlisted in the Marine Corps in 1940 and was a machine gunner with C Company, 1st Battalion, 7th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, and later with the B Company, 1st Battalion, 27th Marine Regiment, 5th Marine Division.
Born to a privileged family in Mobile, Ala., PFC Eugene B. Sledge (played by Joe Mazzello) had relatives on both sides of his family who fought for the Confederacy. Sledge was the son of a physician who was a medical officer during the First World War; he had turned 18 just one month before the U.S. entered the war, but a heart condition kept him from enlisting until Dec. 1942. Although his family urged him to train as an officer, Sledge ultimately joined as an enlisted man and served with K Company, 3rd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division as a mortarman.
Over the span of ten hours, THE PACIFIC takes an unflinching “under the helmet” look at the experiences of these men and their brothers in arms, each of whom finds himself fighting for his life on faraway specks of land they had never heard of – Guadalcanal, Cape Gloucester, Peleliu, Iwo Jima, Okinawa. Forced to endure extreme deprivation and a debilitating climate, while fighting a brutal enemy who would rather die than consider surrender, these Marines are driven to the brink of their humanity.
THE PACIFIC depicts these battles – physical, mental and emotional – as it explores the true human cost of war.
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Jan. 14, 2010
HBO MINISERIES PRESENTS THE PACIFIC, AN EPIC TEN-PART EVENT, A PLAYTONE AND DREAMWORKS PRODUCTION, XECUTIVE PRODUCED BY TOM HANKS, STEVEN SPIELBERG AND GARY GOETZMAN, AND STARRING JAMES BADGE DALE, JOE MAZZELLO AND JON SEDA
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BASED ON THE TRUE STORIES OF MARINES IN THE PACIFIC THEATER OF WORLD WAR II, EXCLUSIVE HBO PRESENTATION DEBUTS MARCH 14
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Directed By Carl Franklin, David Nutter, Jeremy Podeswa, Tony To, Tim Van Patten And Graham Yost;
Written By Laurence Andries, Michelle Ashford, Bruce C. McKenna, George Pelecanos, Robert Schenkkan And Graham Yost.
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“It is not a history, and it is not my story alone. I have attempted, rather, to be the spokesman for my comrades, who were swept with me into the abyss of war.”
– Eugene B. Sledge, With the Old Breed
The epic ten-part miniseries event THE PACIFIC, based on the true stories of World War II Marines, debuts with Part One on SUNDAY, MARCH 14 (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET/PT), followed by other parts debuting on consecutive Sundays at the same time through May 16.
The HBO Miniseries presentation of a Playtone and DreamWorks production is executive produced by Tom Hanks, Steven Spielberg and Gary Goetzman, the producing team behind the Emmy® Award-winning and Golden Globe-winning 2001 HBO miniseries “Band of Brothers.” Hanks and Goetzman also executive produced the HBO miniseries “John Adams,” which won a record-breaking 13 Emmys® in 2008.
THE PACIFIC tracks the intertwined real-life journeys of three U.S. Marines – Robert Leckie (James Badge Dale), Eugene Sledge (Joe Mazzello) and John Basilone (Jon Seda) – across the vast canvas of the Pacific Theater during World War II. The miniseries follows these men and their fellow Marines from their first battle with the Japanese on Guadalcanal, through the rain forests of Cape Gloucester and the strongholds of Peleliu, across the bloody sands of Iwo Jima and through the horror of Okinawa, and finally to their triumphant but uneasy return home after V-J Day.
The miniseries is based in part on the books “Helmet for My Pillow,” by Robert Leckie, and “With the Old Breed,” by Eugene B. Sledge, with additional material from “Red Blood, Black Sand,” by Chuck Tatum, and “China Marine,” by Eugene B. Sledge, as well as original interviews conducted by the filmmakers.
THE PACIFIC is an HBO Miniseries presentation of a Playtone and DreamWorks Production; executive producers, Tom Hanks, Steven Spielberg, Gary Goetzman; co-executive producers, Tony To, Eugene Kelly, Graham Yost, Bruce C. McKenna; producers, Cherylanne Martin, Todd London, Steven Shareshian; co-producers, Robert Schenkkan, George Pelecanos, Michelle Ashford; supervising producer, Tim Van Patten; directors of photography, Remi Adefarasin, B.S.C. and Stephen Windon, A.C.S.; production designer, Anthony Pratt; music by Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli and Blake Neely; music supervisors, Evyen J Klean, Deva Anderson; casting, Meg Liberman, CSA, Cami Patton, C.S.A, Christine King; editors, Alan Cody, A.C.E., Edward A. Warschilka, Marta Evry, A.C.E.; visual effects supervisor, John E. Sullivan; special effects supervisor, Joss Williams; costume designer, Penny Rose; historical consultant, Hugh Ambrose; senior military advisor, Capt. Dale A. Dye, USMC (Ret.). HBO Miniseries president Kary Antholis is the executive in charge of the production.
Parts One, Seven and Nine are directed by Tim Van Patten (HBO’s “The Sopranos”); Part Two is directed by David Nutter (HBO’s “Entourage”); Parts Three and Ten are directed by Jeremy Podeswa (HBO’s “Six Feet Under”); Part Four is directed by Graham Yost (HBO’s “Band of Brothers”); Part Five is directed by Carl Franklin(“Devil in a Blue Dress”); Part Six is directed by Tony To (HBO’s “Band of Brothers”); and Part Eight is directed by David Nutter/Jeremy Podeswa.
Parts One, Two, Seven and Nine are written by Bruce C. McKenna (HBO’s “Band of Brothers”); Part Three is written by George Pelecanos (HBO’s “The Wire”) and Michelle Ashford (HBO’s “John Adams”); Part Four is written by Robert Schenkkan (“The Quiet American”) and Graham Yost; Part Five is written by Laurence Andries (HBO’s “Six Feet Under”) and Bruce C. McKenna; Part Six is written by Bruce C. McKenna and Laurence Andries and Robert Schenkkan; Part Eight is written by Robert Schenkkan and Michelle Ashford; and Part Ten is written by Bruce C. McKenna and Robert Schenkkan.
In addition to James Badge Dale (“Rubicon”), Joe Mazzello (“The Sensation of Sight”) and Jon Seda (“Close to Home”), actors featured in THE PACIFIC include (in alphabetical order): Jon Bernthal (“Eastwick”), Joshua Bitton (“National Treasure”), Dwight Braswell, Betty Buckley (HBO’s “Oz”), Tom Budge (“Last Train to Freo”), Josh Close (“The Unusuals”), Nate Corddry (“United States of Tara”), Matt Craven (“Public Enemies”), Linda Cropper (“McLeod’s Daughters”), Caroline Dhavernas (“Breach”), Noel Fisher (“The Riches”), Brendan Fletcher (“88 Minutes”), Leon Willem Ford (HBO’s “Tsunami: The Aftermath”), Scott Gibson (“Breach”), Josh Helman (“McLeod’s Daughters”), Ashton Holmes (“Smart People”), Brandon Keener (“He’s Just Not That Into You”), Isabel Lucas (“Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen”), Rami Malek (“Night at the Museum”), Martin McCann (“Closing the Ring”), Ian Meadows (“Home and Away”), Toby Leonard Moore (“Dollhouse”), Henry Nixon (“The Black Balloon”), Keith Nobbs (“The Black Donnellys”), Conor O’Farrell (“C.S.I.”), Annie Parisse (“Law & Order”), Jacob Pitts (“21”), William Sadler (“The Shawshank Redemption”), Gary Sweet (“Police Rescue”), Anna Torv (“Fringe”), Claire van der Boom (“Rush”) and Dylan Young (“Canal Road”).
Principal photography for THE PACIFIC was completed on location in Australia’s Far North Queensland and Victoria over a ten-month period beginning in August 2007.
ABOUT THE STORY
On Dec. 8, 1941, just over 24 hours after the Japanese surprise attack on the U.S. Naval Base at Pearl Harbor, Congress issued a formal declaration of war against the Empire of Japan. For a decade, tensions had been mounting between Japan and the U.S., as the Japanese expanded their conquest of a large region including much of China and Southeast Asia. As a result of the bombing of Pearl Harbor, the United States officially entered World War II, already in its third year of being waged by countries of the Allied powers, including the United Kingdom, the Soviet Union, China, Canada and Australia, against the Axis powers of Japan, Germany and Italy.
Practically overnight, military recruiting offices across the country were jammed, as thousands of Americans rushed to enlist in the armed forces. Many of those young men chose to join the Marine Corps, which saw its ranks more than triple in the six months following Pearl Harbor.
While HBO’s miniseries “Band of Brothers” followed the experiences of one company of Army paratroopers in the European Theater of Operations, THE PACIFIC depicts the war a world away in the Pacific Theater of Operations, which encompassed most of the Pacific Ocean and its islands, including the Philippines, the Netherlands East Indies, New Guinea and the Solomon Islands. This miniseries follows the intersecting odysseys of three men of the 1st Marine Division, an infantry division nicknamed “The Old Breed” for its position as the oldest and largest active duty division of the U.S. Marine Corps. With the support of their fellow Marines and comrades in the Navy, Air Force and Army, the 1st Marine Division was at the forefront of many of hardest-fought campaigns of the Pacific War.
Private First Class (PFC) Robert Leckie (played by James Badge Dale) grew up in Rutherford, NJ, one of eight children. He began a professional sportswriting career for the Bergen Evening Record newspaper at age 16. Leckie, who would be christened “Lucky” by his comrades in arms, was one of those who enlisted in the Marine Corps just after Pearl Harbor. He served with H Company, 2nd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division as a machine gunner.
Sgt. John Basilone (played by Jon Seda) was raised in Raritan, NJ, one of ten children of Italian immigrant parents. In 1934, at age 18, Basilone enlisted in the U.S. Army and served three years in the Philippines, where he was a champion boxer. After a brief return to New Jersey, Basilone enlisted in the Marine Corps in 1940 and was a machine gunner with C Company, 1st Battalion, 7th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, and later with the B Company, 1st Battalion, 27th Marine Regiment, 5th Marine Division.
Born to a privileged family in Mobile, Ala., PFC Eugene B. Sledge (played by Joe Mazzello) had relatives on both sides of his family who fought for the Confederacy. Sledge was the son of a physician who was a medical officer during the First World War; he had turned 18 just one month before the U.S. entered the war, but a heart condition kept him from enlisting until Dec. 1942. Although his family urged him to train as an officer, Sledge ultimately joined as an enlisted man and served with K Company, 3rd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division as a mortarman.
Over the span of ten hours, THE PACIFIC takes an unflinching “under the helmet” look at the experiences of these men and their brothers in arms, each of whom finds himself fighting for his life on faraway specks of land they had never heard of – Guadalcanal, Cape Gloucester, Peleliu, Iwo Jima, Okinawa. Forced to endure extreme deprivation and a debilitating climate, while fighting a brutal enemy who would rather die than consider surrender, these Marines are driven to the brink of their humanity.
THE PACIFIC depicts these battles – physical, mental and emotional – as it explores the true human cost of war.
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I'm currently watching Band Of Brothers for the first time to prepare. Don't know how I never watched it before.
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Band of Brothers was one of the best television productions ever. If this is half as good, it will very much be worth watching.
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I mean it's a possibility
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It'll still be the best thing on tv.
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I hated Crystal Skull, but he still does WW2 some justice. Maybe he can even direct an episode! Long as it dosent involve monkeys.
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He did one part each of Band of Brothers and From the Earth to the Moon, and it's not like he's been bogged down with a fuckton of other projects of late. Weird. Nevertheless, this will be the undisputed must-see TV event of 2010.
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HBO just keeps reloading!
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Is this going to be as hilarious and zany as Thin Red Line? Feel good movie of the summer, that one.
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Bjut if they get even a quarter of the way to matching it's quality, it'll be brilliant. Cannot wait for this.
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My grandfather was in 1st Marines at Guadalcanal, Cape Gloucester and Peleliu (where he was badly wounded...along with the majority of the 1st Marine division if you read up on it). He always liked Band of Brothers because "they got it", so I have high hopes that Pacific will be the same level of quality.
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This is going to rock but will probably be fairly different in tone than Band of Brothers. The Pacific theater was fucking hell. It was kind of like the WW2 version of Vietnam. Man, The Pacific, Treme, Boardwalk Empire, Game of Thrones.... is there any way i can just get HBO on it's own? I really don't see the need for any other channels at this point.
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Band of Brothers is still one of the most watchable series I've ever seen. I'm sure this will be excellent (and it's about time the Pacific theater got some attention).
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Jurassic Park kid makes a comeback!
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is EASTBOUND AND DOWN coming back? A date on that would be Cool News.
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_With The Old Breed_ by Eugene Sledge is considered a classic first person account of the war. Sledge kept ongoing notes during his time in the Pacific -- against regulations but he did anyway. Another good first person account is George MacDonald Fraser's _Quartered Safe Out Here_ about the fighting in Burma, and William Manchester's _Goodbye Darkness_.
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Jaye Tyler does things to me.
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the girl from Fringe is in this too according to the cast list...
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And I absolutely love Caroline Dhavernas. Here's hoping she took her clothes off for this thing.
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is some kickass source material.
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My old landlord Al served in the Pacific Theater, serving on a bomber crew. He's alive and kickin like a chicken. It will be an honor to share his recollections (as he likes to do) while watching this. And yes it bears repeating...GEORGE PELECANOS is TV GOLD! If you have not read his novels, then shame on you! They are at your local library, you cheap bastards!
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HORSE SHIT. They'll take a look, but it won't be unflinching. You can't show the real effects of war on a TV miniseries. It would be so violent, so fucking horrific that people would recoil in revulsion. Read the books instead. Start with WITH THE OLD BREED, one of the finest combat memoirs ever published.
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It's just a shame that it will no doubt omit all those USA foreign policy decisions regarding the China/Japan situation from the mid-thirties up to 1941 that forced Imperial Japan to attack Pearl Harbour in the first place. You know, all that inconvenient "USA cut off Japan's oil supply, forcing Japan to look to the Dutch East Indies (south of Pearl Harbour) and so they had to pre-emptively cripple the US fleet so it couldn't blockade the route to and from Japan's new oil supply" stuff. America, ass-clowningly making its own problems since time immemorial.
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Band of Brothers was the most realistic and best dramatization of war ever produced. I remember reading an article a few months back that just ripped Saving Private Ryan which, despite its combat realism, was completely unrealistic. One thing that always, ALWAYS bothers me about war movies and shows is that the soldiers are so damn old. SPR had that; even Band of Brothers had it (though they tried to describe some of them as younger). But Band of Brothers was just great...
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Read "Helmet for My Pillow", which is Leckie's account of his experience in the Pacific.
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I thought Band of Brothers was VERY uneven (i.e. boring) in places, but overall it was well worth watching and certainly better than 95% of everything else on air at the time. If this can be that good I'll be most please.
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Wooooooow.
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EVER!
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You heard me. We were out for victory in WW2. In Afghanistan we're too afraid of the mountain in Tora Bora (oh noes, its so highz). Or pissing off the Pakistani's. Damn it, this is why we need to clone us some Patton.
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I agree on the Pakistani and Patton comments. But, regarding Afghanistan, don't let a veteran of the 'stan hear you, or it's adios muchacho for you.
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You might want to check your history a bit and realize that all of the US "intereference" you decribed was in response to Japan's rape of China--read up on it.We didn't cut off Japan's oil supply and freeze their assets for no good reason. They fucking brutalized over 300,000 men, women and children in China in a matter of months while the rest of the world sat on their hands. At least the US did something. Not enough, but something.
The Japanese were fucking inhuman brutes in China, Korea and Vietnam in their quest for empire disguised as "co-prosperity". All that they got, they brought down on them sleves. The US is no sainted nation, certainly, and yes, we've been brutal assholes ourselves in our history (The Phillipines 1900 or so?), but, please, let's dispense with this revisionist bullshit about the Japanese in the 20s and 30s.Google "Rape of Nanking" or "Unit 731" and learn a bit about what you're trying to talk about. -
...is fucked. We're not the first people to loose their (or "not succeed", whatever you want to call it). Ask Russia how it worked out for them.
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You need to do a bit more research yourself, pal, as much of this history is revisionist itself. Yes, the Japanese were guilty of atrocious crimes in Nanking, but Chinese scholars have been caught exaggerating and fabricating evidence as well. Nanking was worse than Japanese Nationalist scholars admit, but it's not as bad as Chinese Nationalist scholars claim. The truth lies in the middle, and you're not going to get on Google.
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Or why we were over there in first place? (Japan threatened our colonial rule over South East Asia) Or why we unleached needless nuclear devastion on a civilian town even though Japan was on the brick of surrender? (Perhaps to send an assertive signal to the Russians)
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While the massacre in Nanking and others were atrocious, one could argue such things could have been avoided if the West had not treated it's Asian colonies so poorly which caused the Japanese contempt and willingness to fight back.
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zooch..Pearl Harbor?????
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The Japanese military during the 1930s and 1940s is often compared to the military of Nazi Germany during 1933–45 because of the sheer scale of suffering. Much of the controversy regarding Japan's role in World War II revolves around the death rates of prisoners of war and civilians under Japanese occupation. The historian Chalmers Johnson has written that:
It may be pointless to try to establish which World War Two Axis aggressor, Germany or Japan, was the more brutal to the peoples it victimised. The Germans killed six million Jews and 20 million Russians [i.e. Soviet citizens]; the Japanese slaughtered as many as 30 million Filipinos, Malays, Vietnamese, Cambodians, Indonesians and Burmese, at least 23 million of them ethnic Chinese. Both nations looted the countries they conquered on a monumental scale, though Japan plundered more, over a longer period, than the Nazis. Both conquerors enslaved millions and exploited them as forced labourers—and, in the case of the Japanese, as [forced] prostitutes for front-line troops. If you were a Nazi prisoner of war from Britain, America, Australia, New Zealand or Canada (but not Russia) you faced a 4% chance of not surviving the war; [by comparison] the death rate for Allied POWs held by the Japanese was nearly 30%.
According to the findings of the Tokyo Tribunal, the death rate among POWs from Asian countries, held by Japan was 27.1%. The death rate of Chinese POWs was much higher because—under a directive ratified on August 5, 1937 by Emperor Hirohito—the constraints of international law on treatment of those prisoners was removed. Only 56 Chinese POWs were released after the surrender of Japan.
Special Japanese military units conducted experiments on civilians and POWs in China. One of the most infamous was Unit 731 under Shirō Ishii. Victims were subjected to vivisection without anesthesia, amputations, and were used to test biological weapons, among other experiments. Anesthesia was not used because it was believed to affect results.
To determine the treatment of frostbite, prisoners were taken outside in freezing weather and left with exposed arms, periodically drenched with water until frozen solid. The arm was later amputated; the doctor would repeat the process on the victim’s upper arm to the shoulder. After both arms were gone, the doctors moved on to the legs until only a head and torso remained. The victim was then used for plague and pathogens experiments.
According to GlobalSecurity.org, the experiments carried out by Unit 731 alone caused 3,000 deaths. Furthermore, according to the 2002 International Symposium on the Crimes of Bacteriological Warfare, the number of people killed by the Imperial Japanese Army germ warfare and human experiments is around 580,000. According to other sources, "tens of thousands, and perhaps as many as 400,000, Chinese died of bubonic plague, cholera, anthrax and other diseases...", resulting from the use of biological warfare.
One of the most notorious cases of human experimentation occurred in Japan itself. At least nine out of 12 crew members survived the crash of a U.S. Army Air Forces B-29 bomber on Kyūshū, on May 5, 1945. (This plane was Lt. Marvin Watkins' crew of the 29th Bomb Group of the 6th Bomb Squadron. The bomber's commander was sent to Tokyo for interrogation, while the other survivors were taken to the anatomy department of Kyushu University, at Fukuoka, where they were subjected to vivisection or killed. On March 11, 1948, 30 people including several doctors were brought to trial by the Allied war crimes tribunal. Charges of cannibalism were dropped, but 23 people were found guilty of vivisection or wrongful removal of body parts. Five were sentenced to death, four to life imprisonment, and the rest to shorter terms. In 1950, the military governor of Japan, General Douglas MacArthur, commuted all of the death sentences and significantly reduced most of the prison terms. All of those convicted in relation to the university vivisection were free by 1958.
In 2006, former IJN medical officer Akira Makino stated that he was ordered—as part of his training—to carry out vivisection on about 30 civilian prisoners in the Philippines between December 1944 and February 1945.The surgery included amputations. Ken Yuasa, a former military doctor in China, has also admitted to similar incidents he was compelled to participate in.
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I dont know how many conquerors were stopped here but it's been called that.
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And MrLongbaugh...
Nicely done!
The perspective of asstards like Zooch and Scratchmonkey is that if America is not the model of sqeaky-clean perfection... than were just as bad as any other nation on the planet.
Context, historical perspective and a little common sense is a wonderful thing.
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Thank you sir. I cannot for the life of me understand how someone could defend the actions of Japan during WW II.
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was an epic undertaking and a very handsome series, but I also found it to be a little overrated. The characters were the problem, at least for me. I just couldn't relate to them. You never got to know them well enough to really care about them, and that was a huuuge missed opportunity, I think. The storytelling just wasn't emotional enough. (I had a similar problem with "Saving Private Ryan". The characters were all cardboard cutouts and didn't feel like real people.) For a show titled "Band of Brothers" there weren't enough bands/bonds and there wasn't enough brotherhood. Despite its scale and grandeur and despite the fact that it was indeed an interesting and at times gripping watch, I was a little disappointed by it. It felt a little... cold. But that's just my personal opinion. Maybe they'll fix this in "The Pacific".
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Of the Burma campaign were a large portion of the Japanese army was held down and beaten by Bill Slim.
As for memoirs the best is Quartered Safe Out Here by George Mcdonald Fraser. Absoloutly brilliant. -
Any discussion of cruelty, greed, or stupidity by human beings that puts the subject in terms of nations or cultures is inherently absurd. Human nature is cruel, greedy, and stupid, and humans will tend to behave in cruel, greedy, and stupid ways to the extent that they have the power to do so. No single nation has more or less than its share of these traits. The only difference is that some nations have more wealth and power, therefore more opportunity and ability to fuck over other human beings.
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For saving me the time to address the mypic ignorance of some of the posters here.
The United States certainly has its own history of inhumanity--no argument there.But much of the information about Japanese barbarism in Nanking comes from Western sources who were there, not the Chinese. Perhaps some of you might rent the documentary "Nanking" if you'd like to be enlightened a bit. Read Iris Chang's book on the topic. Maybe some of you need to investigate the particulars of the Bataan death march...and on, and on.
Right wing nationalists in Japan today still insist that their country was a non-aggressor and a VICTIM of the war because of the atomic bomb drops.Hell, some of their HISTORY TEXTBOOKS spew the same bullshit.Well, everyone ended up a victim of that war in one way or the other, but Japan, a poor innocent victim of the "big bad US"? Please, educate yourselves a bit beyond the anti-American soundbytes you enjoy parroting. There's plenty to criticize this nation about historically--and currently. Not here-Japan brought every bit of everything that happened to them down upon their own heads. -
Spike i agree about that, he dealt with a huuuuge portion, how much % of the total jap army was in the bush there?
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I can undestand that it might have been cold, heck the coolest characte there was Speirs because he was a suicidal robot, i basically now only watch it for the battle scenes and some the latter episodes to see the nazi buildings thy encounter.
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is self serving. There is no good or bad only what you do or don’t and the consequence of your actions. Evil is just some thing they teach you Sunday school to keep their thumb on you. Japan was running out of natural resources and decided to invade another country to get more. Their action would lead to them getting two nuclear bombs dropped on them. Lesson learned . Oh and this show is going to be the bomb.
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Loved "Band of Brothers" and "The Pacific" looks pretty f'ing great.
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Jan 18, 2010 1:04:00 PM CST
"forced Imperial Japan to attack Pearl Harbour in the first plac
by kaitain
Well, "forced" only if you assumed that Japan was compelled to expand its territory as a kind of "manifest destiny". That's what the Japanese had come to believe, and they needed resources to do so.
But Japan was only "forced" to secure those resources militarily in the same way that Homer Simpson was "forced" to consider cutting his arm off to break free of the soda vending machine once he had assumed that letting go of the can was not an option.
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