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TMZ Says NBC Has Given Back THE TONIGHT SHOW To Leno!!
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TMZ, which one week ago broke the story of Jay Leno moving back to 11:35 p.m., now reports NBC has signed Leno to return as host of an hour-long “Tonight Show.”
NBC has already denied the report. Network execs confirmed earlier this week they hoped to shrink “The Jay Leno Show” to 30 minutes and move it to 11:35 p.m. -- while moving “The Tonight Show Starring Conan O’Brien” to 12:05 a.m.
O’Brien balked at having to start his show half an hour later, and it looks like his long on-air association with NBC is coming to an end.
The results of a TV Guide poll posted Wednesday indicated that 83% percent of respondants preferred O'Brien retain his 11:35 p.m. slot. The other 17% indicated they wanted Leno to return to 11:35 p.m.
Find TMZ’s story on the matter here.
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meh.
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Will always been known as a tool if this is true.
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jerks
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If true, it surprises me not at all. It also wouldn't surprise me if they tried to use their contract to keep him off the air so he can't compete. I'm curious what a disgruntled lame-duck host of the most watched late night talk show would unleash on the world during his final days.
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is Conan's last.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/01/bill-simmons-conan-obriens-tonight-show-done-next-week.html -
Eat a pile of dick.
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For what it's worth
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He can either be kind and respectful for the opportunity that NBC gave him, or he can torch the bitch. I hope he loses his shit next week.
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NBC and Leno will see their ratings shrink even further as Leno looks like a greedy backstabber. The damage has been done and they can't just go back. Leno will have lost the very ratings NBC was so desperate for. And meanwhile, they lost one of their late night hosts who had good ratings, especially in the key 18-29 demographic. Someone whose ratings were quickly jumping up as a result of this scandal.
No matter how you look at it, NBC screwed up HUGE. They are now going to be out millions to buy out Conan, and overall, their ratings for that night are going to be way down. Leno will go down and Fallon is nowhere close to what Conan had. The integrity of Leno and NBC is tarnished...but at least Leno gets to keep his Tonight Show and was able to get out of a contract he signed and agree to 5 years ago. Mission accomplished. -
Fuck NBC, Jay Leno and Hulu.
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He could've walked away and spent his millions instead of screwing Conan and everybody who moved to LA.
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Leno's show was the same goddamn thing as his tonight show, just no desk. He failed. I call a boycott of his show.
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http://www.theatlanticwire.com/opinions/view/opinion/Jeff-Zucker-vs-Conan-OBrien-A-Rivalry-30-Years-in-the-Making-2189
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...all of a sudden and gave his show to Conan. A last big FU to NBC.
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Holy shit that's the best idea I've heard all week. I love Dave and he has been positively gleeful in his vicious hatred of Leno and NBC all week... I can actually picture him doing this. Oh, it would be glorious. GLORIOUS!!!
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People NEVER change.
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should be Stern, Kimmel, Ferguson, Letterman and the ghost of Bill Hicks. FEEL THE LOVE!
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When was the last time anyone made a joke about banging the help two at a time? Dave has been helped by NBC's abysmal management and Tiger Woods' prediliction for skanks.
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I get the feeling Dave was going to stay a year or two after Jay got the boot. Now, it'll be a race between Jay's ratings/contract vs. Dave's ticker.
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Who owns "Triumph?" NBC, Conaco or Smeigel himself?
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Never forget what NBC did.
Never forget what Jay did.
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How cool would it be if when Leno comes out for his monologue the first time, he's booed out of the building? "Hey folks how ya doin?" "Booooooooo, get the fuck outta here!"
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They are going to clean fucking house once they gain control.
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Now if there were only a way to get everyone who shows up for Leno tickets to be secret Conan people.
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Jan 14, 2010 4:51:02 PM CST
I want to organize a product boycott once Leno's back on tonight
by margot_tenenbaum
Hit these fucks in the pocketbook. NBC loses money and prestige until Zucker is gone. The target can't be Leno because he's like a vampire that keeps rising from the grave.
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Dude! That is some fucked up shit.
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post too quick
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Though I think they're in bed with TMZ
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is bigger than his chin. I'm sure that he has had Jeff Zucker whispering sweet nothings in his ear while jerking him off.
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I remember being 12 when Conan first started airing. i would be up late every night trying to finish my math homework and conan would play in the background - man, that first year i thought he was just terrible. just awful. But 17 years later i am ready to stop watching NBC altogether and follow him wherever he goes. GO GET EM CONAN. FUCK YOU LENO!
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That audience will be more pre-screened and handpicked than a Gdub Bush town hall meeting.....
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Jeff Cox-Zucker
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That's the funniest one of those Hitler things I have ever seen. It just won't die. Thank god it lived long enough to see this Leno debacle. Comedy gold.
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Hope he goes to Fox lock, stock, and barrel, and destroys Leno & NBC. Fox should pay Conan whatever $ he needs to get out of the NBC contract.For me, NBC = Nothing But Chuck, so they got almost nothing to offer anyway. And they pulled the same delayed-season stunt with Chuck that they did via Syphy and BSG. So they deserve what's comin...
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This realm of ours has given us enormous celebrity life ruining powers! let s use them to destroy the Big Chin! Or in other words internet karma will fuck him up!
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This is a copper-bottomed fuckup for NBC.
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LOL!
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Jeff Zucker (the Fucker) will be fired with GUSTO! when Comcast takes over. And if they don't, then they deserve a man of his quality.
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Conan O'Brien: Nathan Fillion
Jay Leno: Joseph Gordon-Levitt
Andy Richter: Philip Seymour Hoffman
David Letterman: Sam Worthington
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Comcast is so fucked. When NBC tanks, I wonder if they'll pull out of the deal.
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Shouldhavedoneparagraphbreaks
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I second that Hitler segment love. It cracked me up.
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Don't forget that Anton Yelchin...apparently all the fanboys love him. Gotta work his wimpy ass in somehow.
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Zucker is running NBC into the ground faster than Angelo Mozilo did Countrywide. Sad part is, those two will always be rich bastards.
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And see if he'll write The Late Shift 2.
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They want to kill broadcast content anyway and turn it all into cable and/or OnDemand comment through the web or your cable box.
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WhattheFUCKdidwegetourselvesinto???
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I used to get annoyed by "first" posters. I got over it and moved on. But now it is people who posted "first" late and feel the need to follow up their false first with an "oops" post. fuck that is even more annoying. Ok I got it off my chest, I will move on. Sorry to disrupt the talkback, please continue.
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Maybe Comcast is behind these shenanigans to begin with. Perhaps they wanted Conan to be gone.
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No one said Comcrap was a prince. Rather, they are probably crapping pants about now ...
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Yeah, good point.
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I used to get annoyed with first posters. Then I got annoyed with people who posted first and weren't. Now I hate people who bitch about people who post first late and then follow up with an oops post. Man that is annoying!
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Jan 14, 2010 5:22:29 PM CST
Everyone should print out that 'I'm with COCO' image from Facebo
by margot_tenenbaum
...on a postcard sized piece of cardstock and send it to their local NBC affiliate. The affiliates ended the Jay Leno Show, maybe they can restore Conan.
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NBC is LAME.NBC is LAME.NBC is LAME.NBC is LAME.NBC is LAME.NBC is LAME.NBC is LAME.NBC is LAME.NBC is LAME.NBC is LAME.
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...otherwise it would be great to see him hand the reigns to Conan. Cause that is the real late night lineage. Johnny/Dave/Conan.
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Fuck him in his big fucking chin. I hope his Ford Model-T blows up on his way to work.
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Forget that Leno has only a modicum of talent these past decades. NBC f'd up by putting him at 10:00. With no one watching, the local news affiliates get no ratings due to a weak-ass lead in. That carries over to the Tonight Show. Conan is fucked from the start by 90 minutes of dead air before him. NBC compounds this by punishing Conan and rewarding the guy that failed at 10pm. They've decided to load up the way-back machine and take us back to a year ago, only now Conan is not on Late Night and an semblance of good will toward Leno is done. NBC cares little for what the public thinks; they're in cover-their-ass mode. They should have just admitted they blew the 10:00 thing and fired Leno, and filled that spot with actual entertainment.
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I hope that the big chinned bastard is fricking happy.
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Nikki Finke reports that NBC Universal boss Jeff Zucker — widely seen as the one to blame for the late night mess NBC finds itself in — has threatened to keep Conan O'Brien off the air for three-and-a-half years if he does not accept the network's offer to host the "Tonight Show" at 12:05.
Finke, citing insiders, reports that Zucker has taken "a super tough threatening position" with O'Brien's representatives:
To counter O'Brien's principled public statement which the late night host issued this week, Zucker "is threatening to ice Conan", according to his reps. "Zucker said, 'I'll keep you off the air for 3 1/2 years.' Which doesn't have a chance in hell of happening. What I really think Zucker wants is to hold him off the market for at least six months to a year until the dust settles and Leno is secure and Conan is squelched." One of the reps even compared Zucker to "Darth Vader" because the NBCU chief "has been so evil" about this.
TMZ reported Wednesday that Conan's contract doesn't actually specify the 11:35 PM timeslot.
Finke further reports that "it has now become clear to O'Brien's reps that Zucker wants to jettison Conan altogether and put Jay back at The Tonight Show at its usual starting time." She describes the idea of keeping Conan off the air for the duration of his contract as "dastardly" and "cowardly" and says "it could be damn effective."
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Leno is to blame for being open to the idea of ripping the Tonight Show from Conan and his staff SEVEN MONTHS into their run.
Leno is to blame because he didn't bring up the fact that he didn't want to leave late night six years ago when they pu this plan together.
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That needs to known widely.
NBC sucksNBC sucksNBC sucksNBC sucksNBC sucksNBC sucksNBC sucksNBC sucksNBC sucksNBC sucksNBC sucksNBC sucksNBC sucksNBC sucksNBC sucksNBC sucksNBC sucks -
I'm sticking with the Daily Show & the Colbert Report - waaay funnier than anything on NBC.
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This has got to be a the dirtiest network on television.
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Hell it seems to me like every major news outlet does the same thing nowadays... Anyway, I love how news outlets report, "TMZ Reports..." In my opinion, do your own damn journalism, don't just report what other sites are reporting. Very second rate (I'm talking to you CNN, FoxNews, MSNBC, New York Post, New York Times, the list goes on for ever). Oh yeah, FUCK JAY, GO Conan!!!!
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it would be scary and awesome at the same time.
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Jan 14, 2010 5:48:17 PM CST
Stand-ups will boycott the shit out of Leno's Tonight Show
by burgundy82
Bet on it.
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He's been tainted so badly by this.
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of Conan will the be the greatest spectacle of TV ever. He'll go out with a bang. The equivalent of a fired employee bringing a jerry can full of gasoline to work and torching the place down (comedically speaking of course). He and his guests will give NBC and Leno the humiliating thrashing it deserves. I can't wait for triumph to dig into Leno. I doubt Leno will ever beat Letterman again, after this. He reputation is forever tarnished.
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leno isn't funny
letterman isn't funny
kimmel isn't funny
fallon isn't funny
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http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/05/14/100008738/index.htm
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Just deleted my NBC shit on my DVR
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They will still watch Jay because he is the definition of baby boomer comfort food. And who watches the Tonight Show for the stand up guests? Leno brings eyeballs and there will always be Movies/TV shows to pimp.
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"left that in new york" well while I still think that Jay is moderately funny Conan's old antics made me laugh till I was on the floor most of the time. When he got rid of that he kinda lost me as a fan.
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Several years ago, Conan turned down a multi-million dollar contract with Fox to do a late night show, but he passed for the honor of taking over The Tonight Show. This is a huge fuck you, but I think Conan will take his fans, and the support he's gotten from this clusterfuck to Fox.
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I refuse to watch or Tivo NBC, MSNBC, CNBC, Bravo, SyFy, USA or the Weather Channel. I will not visit Hulu. If anyone in my family insists on watching an NBC program, I will encourage them to pirate it.
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Hey Conan. What about going to ABC? Nightline isn't the same without that dude...
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Fuck this selfish prick. Fuck NBC and fuck Jeff Zucker, the true slimeball behind this whole mess.
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Probably a smoke screen... or maybe NBC is letting Conan hear about this in the news, like a bunch of cowards.http://bit.ly/5eOVfg
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http://tinyurl.com/y9lll85
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You're 100% right. He'll have an 11:00 Show on Fox. He'll have the half hour jump on Letterman and Big Chin. He'll get the demo he's looking for on Fox. And his ratings will be about the same or the a bit better than they currently are on NBC, but that's all Fox is looking for. Meanwhile, Jay will never get back his old ratings as he's tainted and celebrities aren't afraid to knock him for the douche he is.
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I hope he gives a final monologue of Howard Beale/Network proportions
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I wonder if Conan accepts the buy-out money from NBC if that includes a no-compete condition. I hope he's getting himself a good lawyer.
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What a bunch of hacks! Who in their right mind fires the funniest late night performer (Conan) for the least funny (Leno)? It make no sense. What they should have done is be completely honest and forthright with Conan from the get go so that he could have gone to Fox, when they were offering him five times what NBC was, rather than humiliate the man like they have.
The shame in all of this is now I won't be watching the Golden Globes/the Office/ other shows I enjoyed. Oh well, it's worth it just to put NBC's reputation in the shitter. -
Is Jay Leno a Corporate Shill? - http://tinyurl.com/y9mjw2b
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I know it doesn't matter much, and lets be honest, even less because there is almost nothing worth watching on NBC to begin with, but still, fuck NBC. Conan and Chuck are all I like. I can give up Chuck to help NBC fail a little.
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Like the rest of us
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Fuck NBC!!! Let Leno steer that network into fucking hell! Conan, go to Fox, Comedy Central or wherever you get some offers. Take Andy and Max and your cast of freaks and WE WILL FOLLOW! No worries dude. No worries.
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just let me keep Masturbating Bear, Pimpbot, In the Year 2000, Clive Clemmons Inappropriate Response Channel etc. Don't forget that NBC claimed all of Letterman's Late Night material as NBC's intellectual property.
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Your ideas bombed, stop forcing it. Who are contractually obligated to? Conan. Who does 83% of the audience want? Conan. What will you leave on the air? Anyone BUT Conan? WHAT THE FUCK? The only other NBC show I watch is chuck, and bittorrents carry that show too.
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and call it "A Couple of Dicks". Oh, wait.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOQvsuJ5wIA
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Leno will go back to hosting The Tonight Show, but unlike Conan he will have lead-in programming. The Tonight Show ratings will improve and everyone will say "See! People like Jay more hosting the tonight show!" completely ignoring the fact that Leno's crappy lead-in was the cause for the massive drop in ratings, not Conan. To all those clueless people a preemptive F YOU. For all the smart people that prefer Conan because they're smart people, keep the faith. Hopefully Fox will snatch up Conan and put him on at 11.
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I knew it!!!! The guy would sell out in a minute!
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The Tonight Show has not been good since Carson left. Call me when Stewart leaves the Daily Show... that it will be a sad day.
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Is what I'd like to say here...but all I can think of saying is the Leno is such a dick...so there you go. Fuck you Leno.
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They will lose so much in this. NBC has already fallen so far from the network that used to give us Must See TV. Their programming is abysmal, the "new" Leno Tonight Show will be a joke, and Saturday Night Live hasn't been funny for a decade. To top it all of, they're complete donkey-raping shiteaters for doing this to Conan. But I'd rather the rumor of Letterman getting Conan to follow his program on CBS pan out than Conan go to Fox. Fuck Fox and FUCK NBC!
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Drop dead, Jay Leno and NBC. For the first time in my adult life, I will have no Conan to watch.
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I know I'm in the extreme minority here, but as much as I like Jon Stewart in general, I actually preferred Craig Kilborn. It was zany and different. Kilborn, like most news satire shows before it seemed to pick on both sides. Stewart's show is a 30 minute attack on Republicans. There is enough partisan bickering in this country that I don't want to opt into more.
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http://tinyurl.com/yavzt7
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conan is about the most popular late night host out there. there's no way he will be ignored by the other networks. he will have his own late night show again soon.
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So true.
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Man, I still love those Hitler videos.
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Jan 14, 2010 6:34:10 PM CST
Jeff Zucker is gonna be fired in a year anyway. That souless pri
by orionsangels
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Stewart rags on Republicans because he (and his staff) have progressive beliefs they're fighting for and Republicans are immoral thugs. "Picking on" both sides is wishy washy and takes no balls. It stems from the common, middle American belief that "all them politicians are crooks", which is clearly false.
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It's getting better all the time
I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
The teachers who taught me weren't cool( No, I can't complain)
You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
Turning me round(Oh Oh)
Filling me up with your rules(Oooh)
I've got to admit it's getting better (Better)
A little better all the time (It can't get no worse)
I have to admit it's getting better (better)
It's getting better
Since you've been mine
Me used to be a angry young man
Me hiding me head in the sand
You gave me the word, I finally heard
I'm doing the best that I can
I've got to admit it's getting better(Better)
A little better all the time (It can't get no worse)
I have to admit its getting better (Better)
It's getting better
Since you've been mine
Getting so much better all the time!
It's getting better all the time
Better, better, better.
It's getting better all the time
Better, better, better.
I used to be cruel to my woman
I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved
Man, I was mean but I'm changing my scene
And I'm doing the best that I can (ooh)
I admit it's getting better
A little better all the time (It can't get no worse)
Yes, I admit it's getting better, it's getting better
Since you've been mine
Getting so much better all the time
It's getting better all the time
Better Better Better
It's getting better all the time
Better Better Better
Getting so much better all the time
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He couldn't even beat Craig Ferguson and he barely beat Craig Kilborne, what made anyone think he could beat Letterman?
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It doesn't take any skill or sense of humor to change the subtitles on the Downfall clips.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dHkvZb34VA
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remove spaces obviously
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Stern says he was contacted by Conan's people to appear as a guest for next week. Sooo... I would say that Conan has no intention of going quietly. Stern hates NBC, he hates Leno and he hates the Tonight Show. His appearence would be legendary.
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Yambo, 5 questions, the effeminate asexual, dancing on Fridays, etc...
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Jan 14, 2010 6:49:10 PM CST
"Hey folks how ya doin?" "Booooooooo, get the fuck outta here!"
by takingscorpioscalls
nice one ocean wang!
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Ferguson didn't overtake Late Night until Jimmy Fallon started. You've stopped spinning and now you're just lying.
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I looked it up.
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things this country was built on, like killing indians to take their land...haha now thats comedy gold!
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IIRC, Ferguson's 6 year contract is coming up for renewal. As much as I love Ferguson (even over Conan), it would make sense for World Wide Pants to hire Conan over Ferguson, if Conan doesn't have a new gig by then.
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I doubt Conan really wants to play second fiddle to anyone again any time soon. However the team of him and Letterman could totally topple NBC's late night house of cards.
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Kilborn was better on the Daily Show. As much as I like Stewart, Kilborn was far more innovative and entertaining.
Now, as a late night host, Kilborn sucked. The format really didn't work for him. He needed something more scripted. The chemistry between him and the guests never existed.
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and had his job. gave the job to someone else and now gets it back. that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. karma is going slap jay leno right in the face for this. Hear is what think might happen. Conan starts to fill in for jimmy fallon, who starts taking lots of holidays. meanwhile conan starts talking to cbs. where he does a smilar show to late night. we will call the conan obrien. he is given cart blance to do whatever and he signs with worldwide pants. its all perfect for dave who is looking for a successor for the late show. conan will be announced as his replacement.
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a republican.
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and that is daves retirement.
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...I never thought Kilborn was funny anywhere, ever. And this isn't a "I like Stewart or Kilborn better" comment. I just hated Kilborn. One smug, smirking note. No depth, no subtlety, no ability to change gears. The closest comparison I can think of would be Charles Rocket. Sorry, 'cause we all like different things but he was a flavor I never understood anyone liking.
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Brick that Chinny, chin, chin and his huffy puffy bullshit! Team Coco!!!!!!
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Explains volumes why he would not have any problem stealing something away from the guy who gets the popular vote but I doubt very much that it earns him any points among his ultra-left wing liberal masters at NBC.
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Stay classy.
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Jan 14, 2010 7:32:13 PM CST
Alyssa Milano and Matthew Perry are confirmed Team Conan...
by thejokesonus
Seinfeld and Kevim Smith are with Sith Lord Leno.
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Damon Lindelof, Roger Ebert, ?uestlove and Marlee Martin. Paul Reiser on Team Leno. Yeah.
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reads Mother Jones Magazine, for Pete's Sake...
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Jan 14, 2010 7:39:39 PM CST
Let's all Congratulate the King of Late Night returning
by coughlins laws
to his throne!!!Hip-Hip-Hooray!!! Hip-Hip-Hooray!!! Hip-Hip-Hooray!!!
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You lost all credibility when you invoked Sarah Palin.
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and say we did.
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Jan 14, 2010 7:45:30 PM CST
Even Han Solo feels that Coco is getting a raw deal.....
by jamie mcbain
http://tinyurl.com/yefdkwn
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They're conspiring to bring back the year 1996!
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Let's see the chinned one beat that!
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"You know, Burke, I don't know which species is worse. You don't see them fucking each other over for a goddamn percentage."
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Take the high road, and retire.
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....and the end result is Conan is out of The Tonight Show because his ratings weren't very good either. What keeps getting lost in all this is that Conan's version of the Tonight Show wasn't that good. Maybe he would have figured it out eventually, but we'll never know. Conan hosting a show out of California just felt odd.
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For the posting, plus Aliens is a awesome film!
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was still 100% the fuck better than Big Jaw's Tonight Show it its best.
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Leaving the NothingButClusterfuck will be a good thing in the long run! I'm not sure if Dave would snap him up, as Conzie is a made man these days, and will likely write his own ticket, but if it was back in the day, I'd say Letterman would line him up to replace him for sure.
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with you. 3 times as many people watched Leno...
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it does not make it good.
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Jan 14, 2010 8:08:01 PM CST
Is Conan getting the best ratings of his career right now?
by royston lodge
That would be totally ironic.
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So, like, you know, he knows what it means to be royally fucked.
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Jan 14, 2010 8:09:22 PM CST
I think that one point, Leno made a pact with the Devil....
by jamie mcbain
Can it be confirmed or denied?
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Jan 14, 2010 8:10:39 PM CST
"hope he gives a final monologue of Howard Beale/Network proport
by big jim
If he did that, his final (in every way) guest, booked by NBC, would be the stars of the Mao Tse Tung Hour.
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Can we please put Jay in Carbonite?
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Conan's worst Tonight show episode far outshined - creatively and comedically - anything Leno did in his 17 or so years on the Tonight Show. Anything Conan did was a step in the right direction in fixing the product.
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similar to the one Seth MacFarlane signed.
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Jan 14, 2010 8:14:29 PM CST
Conan should do something like this on his last day, on air.
by jamie mcbain
http://tinyurl.com/ycz6l6
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I had no idea, than even Seth McFarlane had one too!
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I read that piece on Huffington Post by Paul Reiser, and was thinking 'why the fuck are you giving your 2 cents on this story? You're a D-List celeb at this point in your career. It's been like over 15 years since Mad About You, not to mention, you were in My Two Dads. Shut Up, you're irrelevant. and Jerry Seinfeld is an interesting one. He had brilliant stand up back in the day, but he's shit now. SEINFELD's brilliance was due to the amazing people that surrounded him. His 3 co-star actors made his acting look like shit. The writing and direction was all Larry David. Just look at Seinfeld & David post-Seinfeld. Larry David gave us Curb your Enthusiasm. Jerry gave us The Bee Movie, and his upcoming reality show, The Marriage Ref. Come on Jerry! Just like Leno, money made you creatively and comedically lazy. Meanwhile, Conan has the backing of any cutting edge, comedian or entertainer today.
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You really just have to feel sorry for Coughlins Laws... there's no point in trying to argue with him... He has terrible taste... He can cite numbers all he wants. Of COURSE Jay had high numbers with the Tonight Show, shit draws flies no matter how bad it stinks. Look at "Reba"... How many seasons did that show have? What about "Becker"? Jim Belushi's show? Numbers don't equal quality... and lowest common denominator humor attracts the crowds. Shrek won Best Animated Picture over Monsters Inc. You can't argue popularity, but that doesn't make it good. You can really only feel sorry for those people who DO find worthless shit entertaining, like you would feel sorry for a man shopping at Wal-Mart wearing a blanket as a T-shirt...
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catchphrase popularity for Dirty Dancing. No one coined that shit before then.
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He had the absolute BEST "fuck you" series of shows during his last week.
He ran everything he could never get away with if he wanted to keep his job.
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Call Zucker at 212.664.2830. This is a direct line to Jeff Zucker... or at least his secretary.... TELL HIM WE WANT COCO!!!
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Can you tell me more about Donohue's last week of programming (on MSNBC, I gather)?
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That he will getting bombarded with phone calls!
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Community still needs your support. Parks, too.
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Jan 14, 2010 8:32:11 PM CST
I for one won't be watching Jay when he comes back, to the Tonig
by jamie mcbain
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I was told of it by Pat Robertson himself.
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leno blows
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This..... can't..... be...... happening...... FUCK NBC! EVERYBODY.... FORGET WATCHING LETTERMAN, FORGET WATCHING LENO, FORGET WATCHING KIMMEL! WATCH CONAN WHEN HE MOVES TO FOX, HE NEEDS OUR HELP! GIVE HIM THE RATINGS HE DESERVES AND SHOW THOSE COCKSUCKERS AT NBC THAT THEY DON'T FUCKING DICTATE THE TONIGHT SHOW'S LEGACY! NBC has the Tonight Show in name only! The REAL Tonight Show will be back when Conan shows up on Fox! God bless Conan O'Brien and NBC can go straight to hell!!!
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out of curiosity?
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out of curiosity?
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I pretty much checked out on Google.
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Jay Leno is The Grinch Who Stole Late Night.
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Jimmy Kimble, Imagine that, a TV host who doesn't have a grudge"
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we need a central website in order to direct fans. Ninja-crashing Leno's show, Flashmobbing outside of NBC headquarters with red wigs on, online petitionsm etc. Has there been a major website? I'm getting most of my "official" stuff from Gawker.
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That's a great idea!
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So on this evening's Leno, the host has managed to:
1) Rag on NBC (a tad disingenuous, given how he's coming out on top of all this).
2) Make fun of Conan (surely the crassest thing I've ever seen Leno do, kicking a man when he's down).
3) Steal "Stupid Human Tricks," under a different name. Only in this version, the host has never heard of any of the places the people come from, and mocks their accents.
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Apparently, Jeff Zucker is threatening to freeze Conan O'Brien, for three years.
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"The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien's ratings have gone up, so YOU'RE WELCOME!"
That takes balls to say that.
Which Jay proves that he has none of.
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"Retarted"?! YOU are retarDed!
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He should never have "retired" if he still had intention of coming back to Tonight; I can understand wanting his own show under his own name, but to take Conan's hard earned spot when that venture failed is sheisty. Hope he bows out and just lets Conan have Tonight, or he's gonna go down faster than Superman at a pu$$y licker convention.
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And that's all there is to it. Bullshit.
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Branford Marsalis on?
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Superman is known for eating pussy?
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That they have Jabba The Hutt as a banner, on the screen.
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"You're welcome!"??? What an a-hole!
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Tell me what team I'm on. I always get picked last.
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"You can do anything you want to do. Unless Jay Leno wants to do it too."
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You could see the immense satisfaction on Jay's face when he blurted out "You're welcome!" into the camera. Like he was getting a blowjob right when he said it. Or fucking one of his cars.
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'I'm with Coco' Rally Planned with Team Conan for Monday http://tinyurl.com/yk8rkwa
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Watching Leno's show is the last thing you should do if you're on team Coco. Unless you're pirating a stream online that is! Personally, I cannot stand Leno enough to do either so I'm just reacting to the quotes you guys give on this website.
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The Tonight Show is now dead to the coveted "younger" demographic. Miscalculation=NBC.
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Agreed.....
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I'm watching clips from tv.gawker.com, so yeah, Leno isn't get MY viewership, even though I lack a Neilson box to make a difference.
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RedJester, not RedGawker. Not sure how I fucked that up.
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Jan 14, 2010 9:48:35 PM CST
This might be a watershed for geeks, nay, the internet...
by thejokesonus
99.99% of support is for Conan, across all websites, all people. People argue over conservatives and liberals, Lost and Heroes, DC and Marvel... but this is where all are united. Kinda touching, really.
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Oh sweet Jesus, Jay really got super uncomfortable!
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IS KILLING. THE END.
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http://tinyurl.com/ybds8px
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did kimmel really do that?!!! wtf was that shit for real?
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just fucking roasted jay again!!
on his own show!!!
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I've never watched your show, but tonight my friend, you have earned yourself a new viewer!
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To paraphrase Cameron, from Ferris Bueller's Day Off....
"Jimmy Kimmell, you're my hero."
I wish I could have seen the look, on the smug bastard's face!
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Jan 14, 2010 9:57:27 PM CST
Yeah, I'll block NBC's affilliate from my channel list now.
by ebonic_plague
Why not? Conan was literally the only show on NBC I'm even remotely interested in watching. What the hell else is there? (honestly, I don't even know NBC's lineup.) Heroes? The rotting corpse of L&O, or ER? LO-fucking-L! No, not only do I not have a reason to watch NBC, now I have a good reason to actually NOT watch NBC. At least once Conan's gone. Hope you're better at your next job, Zsucker.
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I refuse to support Leno. I can't stand his fucking denim-clad cocksucking face.
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That had to be the coolest yet most uncomfortable few moments I have ever seen on television. How the hell do you get punked out via satellite by another talk show host?
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You should really check out Community with Joel McHale, on torrents if you must. It's the best sitcom out there now, and my favorite since Arrested Development. Shame it's on NBC.
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...proves how boneheaded NBC and the Leno crew are. Let's think about this: the host of a rival network's late nite show devotes an entire hour (in costume, even) to mercilessly roasting everything you stand for. -So you invite him on your show??? Thinking it WON'T blow up in your moon-chinned face?? Incredible. This just got epic.
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...Leno CANNOT be made to feel that this is OKAY-- man cant take the stage after this mess like everything is back to normal... feel a LOT like a backstab. Its a SAD state of affairs if anybody willingly tunes in to Leno if this is the way NBC treats people-- right now, the very sound of the guys name makes me angry and I have NO intention of tuning in to NBC's late night schedule -- if he is willing to take back his old job at the cost of somebody ELSES job (no matter WHO that is--and certainly after the way things were settled already) then, thats not the kind of person I would want to support in any way shape or form. The general public may not be made up of SAINTS...but we DO have some common courtesy and SOME sense of INTEGRITY as human beings.
If this actually happens and Leno takes the stage KNOWING what he did to get there and what it COST to an entire staff, moving their families across the country-- jerking the viewing audience around and all the rest-- HOW can I expect to watch this show without feeling guilty- how can you crack jokes and have a light sense of humor when I KNOW that you were willing to stab someone in the back? Its like a bank robber giving all his stolen money to the church-- its STILL stolen money... how do you justify feeling GOOD about that?? -
Take 'em all out with you!
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I have never seen so many well-known personalities just SHIT on one person like this before, all at the same time. Rosie O'Donnell, Stern, Letterman, Kimmel, Conan.... fucking unreal. But it couldn't happen to a more deserving shitbag than Leno.
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and Harrison Ford, possibly the classiest actor in Hollywood!
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Somebody please tell me what the hell Kimmel just did.
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Jan 14, 2010 10:13:16 PM CST
Yes, what did Kimmel do. I thought it was stupid booking him
by coughlins laws
Enquiring minds want to know...
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and did the whole show pretending to be Leno. He's funny... never really gave his show a chance before.
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...Hendrix is on harp, St. Peter's lighting a cigarette, and Bill Hicks is laughing his ass off.
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I WATCHED IT last night, on Hulu.
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http://tv.gawker.com/5448615/jay-leno-turns-the-tables-bashes-conan-obrien-with-biting-monologue
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http://tv.gawker.com/5448615/jay-leno-turns-the-tables-bashes-conan-obrien-with-biting-monologue
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LENO: You're known for pranks. What's the best prank you ever pulled?
KIMMEL: ...I think the best prank I ever pulled was I told a guy, "Five years from now I'm going to give you my show." And then when the five years came, I gave it to him and then I took it back almost instantly. -
Oh yeah, I had heard good things about that show, now that you mention it, and I like Joel McHale. Thanks for the heads up. And thank god for the internet and bittorrent... I'll be checking out that show, but I'll be damned if I help NBC make one red cent off of it.
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KIMMEL: For God's sakes, Jay. Leave our shows alone!
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How do you boycott a show you aren't watching in the first place? All I've been reading for days is how you all don't watch Jay and haven't for a decade. Now you are going to boycott, i.e. continue to not watch him, good plan. You all are idiots and no one cares what you say or do or post on the internet. The Tonight Show sells Metamucil not I-Pods.
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kimmel basically destroyed jay in a joke duel. everytime jay asked him a quesation jimmy turned it into a : are you gonna take my show, like you stole conan's show, like how you passed the baton to conan and then took it back.
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http://tinyurl.com/yln59o3
Enjoy it before they take it down - 2nd clip on the page!
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It's really, really good. Ironically, McHale had a great interview with Conan early on the show's run and simply killed. I've been really trying to drum up the support, but now it's gonna be hard as hell.
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Leave our shows alone you've got 800 million dollars, just go home.
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Jan 14, 2010 10:21:48 PM CST
We're going to boycott NBC, Universal Pictures, Sci-Fi Channel..
by margot_tenenbaum
...Weather Channel, Bravo, MSNBC, CNBC, the Winter Olympics etc.
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Wasn't a huge fan before but damn did he slice Leno up! New viewer here!
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Jan 14, 2010 10:24:47 PM CST
Was it actually funny or was he just being an asshole?
by coughlins laws
It sounds like it was really uncomfortable stuff...
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KIMMEL: Listen, Jay, Conan and I have kids-
LENO (interrupting): Oh- I'm sorry!
KIMMEL: All you have to take care of is CARS!
LENO: That's right.
KIMMEL: I mean, we have lives to lead here- you've got $800 million dollars! For God's sakes, leave our shows alone!
LENO: A plea from Jimmy Kimmel! Jimmy, thank you very much, my friend! -
Jan 14, 2010 10:26:53 PM CST
Really, Margot, you're not going to watch the Weather
by coughlins laws
Channel because you're loyal to Conan? Really? No Olympics for you? Really?
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Jay will go crazy with just 22 minutes and Conan just has to produce a show called the Tonight show but he and Andy can just take a camera crew and do the show from a hotel lobby every night and have triumph do the monologue via skype and hire king kong bundy to play Jeff Zucker every night. If they want a show give them a fucking show.
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Just fucking great. Kimmel just sucker punched Leno right in the nuts. Brilliant. And NBC actually let it go to air.
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Kimmel probably fooled Leno into thinking they were going to have a good-natured joke duel (they being supposed friends and all), but he made the BALLSY move of ripping right into him. Way to have a segment backfire on you, Jay!
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He should have known what was gonna happen. Kimmel did rip him apart and even people in Leno's audience cheered some of the worst ones.Leno laughed it off though. Have to give him that.
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Really? How many lap dances have you had in one night? That's the perfect example of something Leno's audience finds funny. It's mildly titillating but not terribly offensive, and it's extremely obvious (everything in Vegas is smutty!!!). So Middle America can go to bed feeling cool, believing they've laughed at a dirty joke.
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Well you've got one more person convinced... more from my appreciation of McHale than anything, but I am also curious to see if the funny Chevy Chase is back, as is rumored. Hopefully the show survives NBC's attempts to shoot their own foot completely off. And Margot, based on that list, I think I'm already boycotting all of NBC's programming without even realizing it!
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Until Jeff Zucker is out of a job.
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You can tell towards the end, when Kimmel says something like "Listen, Conan and I have (children?), all you have to take care of is cars..." and Leno tries to wave him off. It looks like Kimmel went and said a few (more) things Leno didn't like and the show cut it out. I wonder what it was...
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...but Kimmel is a class act. I always thought Carolla was the funny one, but Jimmy proved he's actually got a heart tonight.
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Oh, and what's this "I'm not tuning into Leno to give him the ratings" stuff? What, half you guys are Nielsen households?
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Line up everyone of those motherfucks for executions! Now
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It's amazing what people on this site find classy...
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that most people in the world are stupid and have no taste but it's true.
the people that still watch jay are these people.
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ALL OF THEM!
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...but he was doing for Conan what Conan would never have done to Leno's face. Kimmel burned a bridge for sure, but he was sending a message that even Leno's friends are not all behind him on what's gone down at NBC. So no, not classy at all, but rather a juicy opportunity taken advantage of for maximum impact.
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How about just, necessary, righteous, duly, true, deserved. Do those sound better?
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Yeah the whole point of that was to be classy. That's stupid. It was the truth, sorry dude.
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IT'S AMAZING!
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Was it the best way to go about it? maybe not, but it sent a message and he was standing up for whats right, even if you like Leno's "humor", you have to admit what is going on is wrong.
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AICN's faithful compass of unwavering wrong.
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so that no one can see his ginormous balls.
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...this whole debacle is making for some of the most compelling TV I've seen in quite some time. It feels like something big could blow up at any time. And from what I'm reading here, it looks like Kimmel may have set off the first real bomb. Crazy!
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He's basically addressing the Conan audience saying "I'm the guy to watch when you'd be watching Conan instead. Fuck Leno."
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"Time sure does fly. Do you realize that a baby born on the day we did our first “Tonight Show” is now a slightly larger baby?”
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Motherfucking two balled bitch, that was awesome!!!1!1 People go watch it at tv.gawker.comThat was some classic shit! He toasted Jay big time
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http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/clt/1551463643.html
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and Batman and James Bond, too. I know they're fictional, but still... you know they'd prefer Conan.
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That took major fuckin sack to do ...
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FOR KIMMEL'S MASSIVE BALLS!!!
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I just rewound that about 4 times and cracked the fuck up. How anyone can honestly think Leno's shtick is funnier than when Conan is on with a good guest is beyond me.
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"If Conan were f*cking Leno like this, there would finally be a single funny bone in Jay's body!"
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Does anyone else think Kimmel, and perhaps ABC, have now opened themselves up to Defamation lawsuit? As an attorney, I suspect there is a lawsuit here. The only thing is, do Leno and NBC have the balls to do it?
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No, I DO NOT WANT TO REPRESENT NBC OR LENO! GO TEAM CONAN!
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We love you Carson!
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Jan 14, 2010 11:30:30 PM CST
I really haven't watched much Letterman or Conan in years
by coughlins laws
so I TiVo'ed both of them tonight, and Kimmel, too, to watch their monologues. All I can say is, REALLY, GUYS? These are the people you're getting your panties in a bunch about? You really dig Conan's whole "cutting the puppet string to his leg" thing? You really think he's funny? You really think Andy Richter's little tirade was funny? You really think Kimmel was funny? I catch Jay once and a while. Sometimes he makes me laugh, sometimes not. Conan and Letterman don't even come close. Plus, I'm still trying to figure out why Kimmel has a show. Every skit on the Man Show was almost exactly the same...
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Jan 14, 2010 11:31:06 PM CST
Kimmel definitely earned cumming on Sarah Silverman's face...
by thejokesonus
good for him.
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Opinions are like assholes ...
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That would be fucking hilarious
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epic. that is all.
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Ppl need to start protesting infront of NBC studios asap, let them hear our anger.
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And I'm talking to you Coughlins Laws. And I paraphrase, "I watch Leno, he makes me laugh! Letterman, Kimmel, and Conan not so much." I'm sorry but anyone not from Middle America who finds Leno funny is an idiot. Those folks in Middle America, well they're just ignorant...
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His panties are never bunched and they're never wet!Boo hoo...
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Dogging Conan because of his ratings? You forget he had the shittiest lead in programming in the history of televised entertainment to work with (i.e. YOUR FUCKING HORRIBLE SHOW YOU NO TALENT HACK.) Unbelievable douchebag.
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wasn't he criticized on here for far-right political beliefs and/or racism? I seem to remember his name coming up derogatorily even before this late night stuff.
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Done and done.
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Jan 15, 2010 12:00:32 AM CST
Speaking as someone who's from the midwest
by spifftacular squirrel girl
Don't find Leno funny at all. As a matter of fact, my favorite late night host ever?
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Jan 15, 2010 12:03:26 AM CST
J-Dizzle: It's in the guise of Satire, Truth and Free Speech
by mistergreen
So, no way can NBC sue. Letterman calls the Zuck a pinhead. It happens to be the truth.
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anyone who even remotely mentions they are a conservative on this site gets their head ripped off, and that's not for being far-right, but for being just an average conservative. Witch-hunts aren't very "cool".
That said there's more to Conan than him doing the "cut the string" move. Watch the clips on Hulu.
I never really disliked Jay until this happened. I thought he was "ok" but I've always been a Conan fan. So it really seems sad to see Jay just ruin any goodwill he has built up over the years. He deserved what Kimmel gave him. -
this will not stand.
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They don't want him at 11:30. It's a shame.
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Jan 15, 2010 12:24:42 AM CST
1992-12-23: Jay Leno Criticizes NBC On 'Tonight' Cliffhanger
by margot_tenenbaum
http://tiny.cc/vR8TW
When Letterman flipped out that he didn't get the Tonight Show, NBC briefly considered dropping Leno early in his 'Tonight' run and hiring Dave. In this New York Times article, Leno makes comments that are now steeped in irony due to today's Leno/Conan issues. -
As a fellow Midwesterner, Amen to that. Space Ghost FTMFW.
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Best part of this whole thing so far.
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I dont think the problem with Coughlin is the right wing nuttiness (which is anything but moderate) but the fact that it seems like he finds out what the topic of any given page is, hops on and flames everyone having a onversation. Every time, without fail. It's constant. I created an account just because I had to comment this guy's absolute lack of tact and taste.
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onversations are similar to conversations just with less correct spelling.
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I just figured he was an obsessive/mentally disturbed Jay Leno fanatic. Guess it's acyually worse.
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that's what I get for typing with one hand.
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Zucker ... what a fucker.
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Gotta remember that Kimmel and Jay had some sort of feud too early on when Jimmy got his show. But appearing on Leno was epic...who was the genius that thought that was a good idea. He just fucked Leno in the ass!
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Irony, yes.
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Yeah, I'm sure he was "outraged" at NBC as he was signing his big fat contract. I guess he doesn't give a damn anymore - he's been outed as a backstabbing sociopath, and it's obvious he likes it that way.
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I'm not gay, but anytime that man wants to... I will.
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You're an attorney and saw a defamation suit?? Go check Lexis and Westlaw for the success rate of suing a COMEDIAN for defamation ... also remember that "truth" is an affirmative defense (guess what I do for a living)
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True.
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True.
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And destroys Leno. If there is a God.
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so funny i hope this topic gets covered in the new season of southpark jay is such a douche, ive always liked conan best, cmon he has andy richter, kevin eubanks is pretty annoying too
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for doing this to their true talent.
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There isn't.
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Remember how everybody always complains that they screw over every show they give a chance to? (Arrested Development, Futurama, Brisco County Jr., Firefly, Dollhouse, blah blah blah). What's to say Conan'll like how he's treated there any better than on NBC?
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Unfortunately you're right. Especially when it comes to NBC.
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to have talent like Conan. Only NBC execs think Leno is better. And some old people.
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They fucking canceled Andy Richter Controls the Universe. Bastards.
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They politicized this. What I mean by that is that they made Conan a folk hero, giving people a reason to avoid Leno actively, instead of just passively accepting his existence. Now people will watch Letterman, Kimmel and Conan out of a moral point besides just desire for quality humor. And a skeptical America has two villains with the faceless corporation NBC and the "rich boy failing upwards" Zucker.
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I used to watch him all the time, but that was years ago, I watched him then Conan. I'll actively NOT watch Leno now though.
I actually don't care for Letterman. But, if there is a guest I want to see, I'll watch him. Other than that I'm without a late night show till Conan gets back on his feet. -
rehiring leno is like putting your retirement savings in a cd rather then an IRA. There's limited room for growth. This leno thing is so shortsited it's not good for business past the immediate. Leno does nothint new doesn't push the envelope and has no plans to. Watching leno last year, or when I was 15 is the exact same experience.
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Are you polesmoking some shit logs? To this being said i hope Leno chin-69's the new Tonight Show desk each night and hosts the show until he starts looking like emperor Palpatine.
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Absolutely right about FOX. Conan may have worked on 'The Simpsons', but something tells me he wouldn't be too keen on pushing the rest of what they're selling over there... Actually, the only way I see Conan getting justice in this mess is if he and Letterman can cook up a succession/revenge plan over at CBS.
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...but fuck NBC altogether. Fuck the Olympics, SNL, HEROES and that new show Seinfeld is doing for them. Ding DING ding.
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@HongKongCavalier: Yes, I know "truth" is an affirmative defense. Anyone who's been through their first year of law school knows that rule. The problem is, Jimmy Kimmel isn't privy to what goes on behind the scenes at NBC. Kimmel is basing his opinion on what everyone here is basing their opinions on: hearsay. Now we're pretty sure we know what the truth is, the problem is that we've got no hard proof or evidence. All we (and Jimmy Kimmel) have is TMZ for our information. I highly doubt a court is going to say a tabloid like TMZ is a good source for the truth. In which case, a lawsuit would turn on what Conan said vs what Leno/NBC say: in essence MORE HEARSAY (assuming we've got no records to show what's been happening behind the scenes)! Besides, I highly doubt Leno and NBC are going to admit to trying to push Conan out of the Tonight Show. Therefore, the question remains: what evidence does Kimmel have to argue that he is on the side of truth (assuming of course Leno and NBC can show that there was Malice involved).
@Mistergreen: That sounds about right. We're talking comedy here, so satire would be a good free speech defense. But Kimmel's statement right at the end (about how he and Conan had kids to feed and a livelihood to work for)was more of a serious statement which kinda takes it out of the realm of satire.
God I have to stop over-analyzing everything!
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He needs Stern, The E Street Band, Triumph outside Leno's studio interviewing his lame fucking audience, the Pimp Bot 5000 could pimp out dwarf Leno, Letterman should even stop by on his last show. Conan could let him sit behind the desk.
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I LOVE the idea of getting Letterman on for his final show and letting him sit behind the desk. That would be the coolest thing to happen on television in the last 20 years.
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Too funny.
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Jan 15, 2010 4:13:54 AM CST
You guys are on CRACK if you think NBC will let that pass-
by tomonicker
Stern? Letterman? Midget Jay Leno? LOL! I don't think so... Really, they are letting Conan go on with it right now, probably in hopes that he'll trip himself up, but those stunts wouldn't fly, I don't think. But who knows, maybe they are that desperate for ratings???
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"Geez, I'm back, sorry Conan we're out of time, I mean, network! Glad to be back everyone!" - Would Carson do this? FUCK NO. He would write jokes to Letterman and enjoy his retirement. Jay Leno is one of the most horrible, disgusting human beings I've ever seen. I really hope the boycott works and he gets zero ratings.
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Midget Jay Leno isn't out of nowhere; he was a character on Late Night with Conan O'Brien. NBC IS a desperate network, which is why they're in this fucked up situation now. And they've let him go to air with some pretty ballsy shit these past couple nights and even put out a statement boasting about his ratings spike. Right now their goal isn't the quality or success of late night, it's the survival of primetime and keeping the affiliates happy, and a final week booking like the one I described would keep the affiliates VERY happy. There is a downside (if you work for NBC): That final week I'm hoping for could dismantle any hope of success for Leno because it would finally and forever shine a light on how many people this douche has screwed over.
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Jay is a sell-out. After all these years being the Tonight Show host, he wants it back so badly that he is willing to throw under the bus Conan Obrien and his team.. Unbelievable. I will be moving to whatever channel Conan gets on, hopefully Fox..
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I thought of that too, Conan should pull a "Network" on his last show, do it live, and ask viewers to turn off their TVs right now.
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this is the same network that took a chance on Conan and allowed him to find a voice (albeit in 13 week chunks). Now, they just seem to rush around in panicked fire drills.Ebersol has now weighed in and firmly placed himself on Team Asshole with Zucker. Wonder how Lorne Michaels feels about this, and if there are factions within the circus tent at NBC.
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Perhaps in the last bit, they should have him lifted by studio execs to stab Conan in the back. Heh, reminds me of the old SNL skit where the studio execs board the Enterprise to cancel Star Trek.
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Stern was open to being a guest, but said he doesn't want to fly to LA. That could change though, but I think it illustrates that Conan will attempt to get away with whatever he can in the final week, and I'm sure Letterman has crossed his mind more than once. I don't think it will happen, but it would be nice.
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He's flatly being intellectually dishonest. I had a lot of respect and still do have sympathy for him, especially after he lost his son, but intellectual dishonesty is unforgivable. Ebersol is a dishonorable snake.
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good to see that it still works.
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Jan 15, 2010 5:13:25 AM CST
Wash. Post reporting NBC will let O'Brien go to another network
by wickedjacob
But are doing everything they can to make Conan look like a failure in the meantime.
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Jan 15, 2010 5:19:22 AM CST
Fallon's ratings the dead giveaway Conan can't cut it...
by burnhollywood
THE TONIGHT SHOW was indisputably doing better under Leno, and LATE NIGHT is actually doing better with Fallon.
Sorry, kids, but all the evidence points to Leno being the better choice for TTS. I'm a Letterman fan myself, but agree with NBC about going where the ratings are.
What was stupid as shit was allowing this situation to arise in the first place...they should have simply extended Leno's contract and told Conan to hold the LATE NIGHT fort. THE JAY LENO SHOW seemed like a cheap alternative to expensive prime-time dramas, but nobody wants to watch a prime-time talk show. -
Lets keep things in context BH. First, Conan was never really given time to develop. Second, Leno's primetime flop was dragging down the rest of the night. Third, If Fallon is doing well in ratings you don't think any of that is thanks to Conan being at 11:30?
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it's more fun to watch BurnHollywood connect points of logic by himself. Let's see how long it takes him.
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http://bit.ly/7Cc4Cv
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On Morning Joe, Scarborough and his cronies mentioned the Ebersol story and completely embraced this revisionist history the execs are primping. Scarborough, who claims to be a HUGE Conan fan, even questioned why he's allowed on the air for another week because "he'll just trash the network more." Looks like the talking heads have gotten the Zucker-Ebersol memo and are going to help gut him on his way out the door.
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So...you're saying THE TONIGHT SHOW *wasn't* doing better with Leno? That's a pretty solid performance measure to try to shrug off.
And that "never really given time to develop" is a total load of shit...Conan isn't just lagging Letterman, he's getting devastated. And if we're playing the "lead in" game, how was Conan unable to capitalize on eleven years of superior Leno ratings, and began to slip immediately after taking the chair?
Don't give a rat's ass for Leno, BTW...I find his humor insufferably mild, unlike Letterman, who I've watched since the 80s (even caught an episode of his "blink and you missed it" daytime show). Glad he's getting one of the biggest last laughs in history at this mess. -
was gold. He fucked big-chin Jay right in his hairyass. On his own show. Hilarious.
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Jan 15, 2010 7:37:48 AM CST
Awwww. Jeff Zucker had his dad come out and defend him.
by margot_tenenbaum
Here's the Dick Ebersol article @ the New York Times: http://tiny.cc/0uSJO
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Can anyone really explain the difference between The Jay Leno Show, and Jay Leno's Tonight Show? It's the same damn show.
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Jan 15, 2010 7:46:21 AM CST
This whole "Conan didn't do good because the Local News
by coughlins laws
was down because of Leno" is Bullshit! Maybe that mattered more 20 or 30 years ago, but are you telling me that people all of the sudden STOP using their remote controls at night? So, according to you in the Conan camp, once someone's TV is on a channel at 11pm, it can't be changed the rest of the night? Listen, Conan got HUGE ratings his first week. People sampled him, realized they didn't like him, he refused to take ANY network notes on how to do an 11:35pm show, and lost every night to the loser Letterman, who's been Number 2 or 3 in Late Night for the last 15 years...
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earning his first name.
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Jan 15, 2010 8:00:44 AM CST
Herc, it's funny how you're not doing your ratings columns
by coughlins laws
anymore. Could you be anymore transparent?
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CBS still looks like a real network while NBC's programming choices make it look like FOX in the '90s when they had the X-Files & the Simpsons and everything else was 'When Animals Attack' and 'Alien Autopsy: Jonathan Frakes Likes To Do Voiceover Work.'
Letterman is feeling the benefits of being on a number one network plus he has had a creative resurgence in the last two years.
NBC on the other hand is TOTAL CHAOS which is taking its toll on all of their most valuable programming. And that's a problem at the executive level. Throwing Conan under the bus after seven months is a symptom of a deeper disease. -
... it's still only been 7 months. Look how long it took Leno to overtake Letterman. And even then it took the luck of having booked Hugh Grant in advance of what was, at the time, the biggest scandal in Hollywood. Conan deserved a chance to work things out and build an audience. I'm also tired of hearing about how Leno was "forced out." This decision was made in 2004. He had five years to try and stop it. NBC are the real fuckers here, yes, but Leno's still a bitch. Kudos to Kimmel last night.
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Jan 15, 2010 8:07:16 AM CST
Margo: And don't forget about Letterman's own scandal
by colonelfatheart
That certain brought the gawkers out in force. He became must-see TV again.
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It was a mistake to force him out of 11:35 pm.
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but I stll laugh!
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This is what I don't understand. People are talking as if they know for a fact that Leno screwed Conan. We are not party to that information. And please, enough with the Leno in the closet in 92 business. We do not know that is going on. What we do know is what NBC has signed off on. And it is not good!
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And Leno is retiring. Airing the Kimmel segment was a very clear tip. It's a publicity stunt, on Andy Kaufman levels. They're giving Conan support, Leno is playing the villain. They won't say a word until February, and Conan will be there to take all the glory (and new viewers, who are tunning in just because of this feud).
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Then why were the local new stations pitching a fit about the shit Leno show killing their audience? I guess it was the local news stations fault for not putting on better shows themselves.
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The more I see Letterman, Conan, and even Kimmel take shots at Leno, the more I realize that Jay pummeled these chimps good. Keep on crying fellas.
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It must be hard being such a cynic. This is most definitely NOT a stunt.
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Think about it. Conan is benefiting so much with this, with his raiting going up and he getting support from viewers. That is called bulding an audience. Second, why just cancel Leno and make it seem like a dumb move from NBC? Just give Leno a final sacrifice to improve the tonight show, make him play the villain in a Kaufmanesque play. Also, why the fuck did they allow the Kimmel segment to air? It was taped. Why did they air the final bit about Leno stealing shows and having 800 million dollars and no kids? Just because it is funny? It was more awkward than funny. All the publicity, and they just ditch Leno? It's a stunt.
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my mistake
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I was thinking of all the events in this world that matter more than who gets to host the Tonight Show; the earthquake in Haiti for starters, but regardless of what one thinks of Conan, or rates, or who's funnier it comes down to someone being knocked out of their job by terrible employers and a brown nosier who wants that job. Too many people, including myself have faced this in their life. Leno may gain some of aged audience back that just could care less who's on, but the rest of us who have no tolerance for people of weak character and will never give him a chance. I have a pipe dream that if Letterman is both so apt to get one good shot at NBC, and remembers how well Carson thought of him as the next Tonght show host, just maybe he could turn in an appearance on Conan's last show. Unlikely as hell, hell yes, yet it would be a great chance to stick to Leno and NBC, and a last chance to be on the Tonight Show before it becomes something no one can stomach. I'm getting a new respect for Letterman and Kimmel for standing up,if not for Conan, but for someone being treated badly by people who should not be responsible for their own shoelaces.
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I HAVE IT ON GOOD AUTHORITY THAT DAVID ROCKEFELLER HIMSELF (PRESIDENT OF NBC) CALLED CONAN AND LENO TO THE BILDERBERG GROUP MEETING LAST YEAR AND PLANNED THIS ALL OUT AS A WAY TO TAKE THE HEAT OFF OF OUR BANKSTER OVERLORDS. LENOGATE WAS AN INSIDE JOB! LENOGATE WAS AN INSIDE JOB!
LENOGATE WAS AN INSIDE JOB!
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I think the best thing to happen to Conan is to leave. Really what on that network doesn't get cellar dweller ratings other than The Office (which is always 20 something in the ratings, not in the top ten) and NFL Football (that's only on 4 months a year)? It's sad how NBC has gone from this great force it was in the 90's to barely being able to beat the CW. The way the TV landscape is, I wouldn't be surprised if NBC is the first of the major networks to fold.
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because hes the cause of all this...thats why. this would totally end is Leno came forward and said no zucker, i had my shot at glory and tried the prime time thing and it didnt work...im passing the torch with dignity and humility...its time for a new crowd and change..instead hes going off in interviews saying yeah i'll take the job if they give it to me, undermining the efforts and support of conan..which sad to say, he never got.
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what dont you understandthese are the facts....leno retired from the tonight show to try something unprecedented..a prime time talkshow..and if it succeeded he would take all the glory and be a "benchmark" to comedy...I DIDNT HAPPEN.because of the slipping in ratings in the JayLeno Show (as opposed to dateline, ER, Law and Order) ALL FOLLOWING SHOWS saw a dropoff in viewers...there is a direct correlation to the fact that jay's tonight show had a strong lead in and conan did not..jay also had 2-3 years to settle in to a comfort zone...conan did not...THESE ARE FACTS..you fucking company man.
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Watch the Kimmel video, he's not denying anything. It's fine though. The guy got the Tonight Show back, wow. In the big scheme of things TV, he's basically just ensured that the Tonight Show will go off the air when he truly retires, because even though Conan wasn't the greatest replacement (his humor is a little off the wall at times), who can you possibly see taking the show over in 5-10 years? It's got to be someone who is an older established host (which Conan was, and apparently that wasn't good enough for the network). It's almost as if NBC is planning on only being around for a few more years.
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http://tinyurl.com/y8fw2p3
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He made it clear back in November that he would take back the 11:35 time slot if it was offered. The only way he could do that is if he royally screwed over Conan O'Brien to get it back. That's exactly what happened. So, yes, Leno is to blame, as much as the dim bulbs who are running NBC into the ground.
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NBC is in the dumps. The majority of their successful shows pull ratings that would be seen as failures on CBS or Fox. I believe their thinking is that they have to have something that shows that they aren't complete screw ups, thus they want Jay back on because they think then they can at least claim that they rule late night. NBC was willing to let Leno lose back in the mid-90's because they had so many successful shows, they could give it time to find a bigger audience. They will not do that now with Conan because their ratings are in such shambles over all, that Conan not coming out the gate number 1 (which could never happen with anyone) is seen by wonderful human beings like Dick Ebersol as a massive failure. The failure of the network overall and giant egos have landed everything where it is currently. It still think that this is just a short term solution by NBC. Eventually Leno will leave, and then if there is still an NBC they will have to find someone to take over.
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Here's to Conan ripping Leno a new one on Fox. At least Fox will let him be like his old Late Night self.
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He was forced out. And the dumbassses who run NBC realized he would take his show on the road, and beat the hell out of them so they created the even dumber 10 pm show. Totally killing their dramas -just to save a few bucks, that they are now hemorrhaging, thanks to short sightedness. Conan deserved better, but business is business and he aint hurting for money.
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are consistently in the top 25 now? I'm only finding NFL Football (which is only on 4 months a year, and is done on NBC now until next season), The Biggest Loser, and sometimes The Office.
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Total lack of promotion? Therre should have been a lot more hoopla about Conan taking over the Tonight Show. There was very little, especially compared to the amount Jay's shitty show got. Regardless Conan's show is unique and he did need time to grown audience. Of course, a lot of Jay's audience was going to leave. Most of Jay's audience (i.e., old people) were not going to enjoy Conan's show. Conana was doing well in the key demographics. Dave's share was much higher, but his audience skews older.
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Conan and Dave were much closer in the key demographics
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I blame the chicken-hearted Marg Helgenberger.
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To Jay: "Just walk away. Walk away."
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the only late show talk host who is ACTUALLY FUNNY.
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Jan 15, 2010 10:00:44 AM CST
Also, let's not forget that Dick Ebersol is the guy
by margot_tenenbaum
who took network Olympics coverage from the hard-sports style of ABC's JIm McKay to the unwatchable non-stop Official Tampon of the Winter Olympics corporate orgy style peppered with liberal doses of insulting, phony 'sports narratives'.
Hey Dick why not bring back the NBC Triplecast and put Jay, Conan and Jimmy Fallon on at the same time. I'd pay $170 for that! -
or any other nbc show, sucks anyways.
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then why did they kick Jay to the curc..they were afraid of conan leaving?these spinster stories aint adding up..
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using the horror in Haiti as an excuse to cheap-shot fans and make them feel bad about supporting Conan. As if NOTHING else can happen in the world while Haiti is in crisis and anything else mentioned at the same time is not worth discussing. Why not attack the news channels running stories other than Haiti instead of taking cheap, low-blow shots at your fans, Kev? I love this guy, but maybe tweeting while high isn't such a good idea. Then he re-tweets some asshole that mentions the red cross doesn't accept blood donations from gays. And tells the guy "politics aside" this is an emergency/crisis. But fails to realize the guy he re-tweeted now has an audience of a million instead of 20 or so with his true but badly timed message. wow. Just wow.
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if jay wasn't 100% happy with the segment, it never would have aired you gullible gooses. i love kimmel, but you were all acting like he did some outrageous shit.
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as I believe my previous posts attest, but let's face it, Leno was forced out of the Tonight Show. NBC, looking toward the future, decided it wanted to lock in Conan as he was receiving lucrative offers from Fox. Jay "retired" because the network asked him to.
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The same guy who has become a sulking 40 year old pot head beacuse people didn't go to see his version of a Judd Appatow film. Maybe he's needs to look at the man in the mirror.
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NBC wanted to keep Conan from bolting, so they re-worked his contact about 6 or 7 yeas ago so that he would get the Tonight show when Jay 'retired'. Jay, either changed his mind sometime during that 6 or 7 years, or he had never agreed to 'retire' in first place. Either way, he did not want to 'retire when the time came. So, he was forced out, because Conan could then leave if he did not get Tonight show in 2009. But then NBC realized just what a huge mistake it would be to let Leno go to another network, so they came up with that dumbass 10 pm show. They also thought they would save money by not having to produce original shows - and they did. But they did not realize that they would be killing their affiliates with lousy ratings.
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is why does he want the Tonight Show so bad. SDeveral comedians have ripped him for having no vision for the show - for not wanting to do anything new. Do you need a vision? No, but then the more fundamental question (and I cannot remember if it was Oswalt or somebody else who asked this first) is absent that vision, why do you want the show. Money? Jay has never pushed NBC for more money. He clearly does not seem to be interested in a pay day. The only reason I can think of is because it's there. Basically to "Win" so to speak. I make a prediction that in 50 years Conan's brief run will be looked back on much more fondly than Jay's run either before or after.
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But nobody held a gun to his head. He could have said no, instead of whining like a little bitch until NBC gave him the 10PM show.
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Kevin Smith : Harvey Weinstein : : Jay Leno : ____________
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I could see this coming. I knew way back that Leno would fail, even hoped for it because of what it did to the 10pm slot on a major network. But when the dust settles, I think Conan will be in a place that appreciates the loyalty of his audience. And as internet advertising has seen, those ad dollars can be MUCH more valuable than dollars spent on a more popular but disposable show with fans that will move on to the next thing once it's gone without batting an eyelid. The major networks have not yet caught on to the monetary value of fan loyalty.
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you said it right there...conan would get the tonight show when jay retired...he did that..he said many years ago IM LEAVING..then he changed his mind...thats his fucking fault..and NBC should have accepted that...they gave jay leno a nice deal for the 10 spot and it didnt work...end of story..in no way does it say that once you quit your job and go somewhere else, you can come back when you fail miserably at it...
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He whined like a little bitch again, until NBC gave him back his precious Tinight Show.
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conan might not be hurting for money, definitely LENO aint either..but what about ALL THE PEOPLE who transplanted themselves from NY to do the show whole families left their homes to start afresh and because Leno and Zucker cant ride off into the sunset together, they are fucked..transplated back to NY!talk about a kick in the ballls...i hope conan working deals for all of them too..
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we see whos side your on--fucking company men through and through...
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They're not cars. PRECIOUSSSS CARSSSSS
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And that vision is showing youtube clips (which is perfect for his older audience that can't use a computer). Hence Conan's new mock NBC line up he did in a skit last night(Baby picks Youtube clips, Monkey picks Youtube clips). Jay Leno is like the Bob Saget from America's Funniest videos, just without even the AFV Saget's edge.
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Jan 15, 2010 10:35:49 AM CST
Yeah, but did he REALLY want to retire
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
Or was he just being a 'good boy' and also trying to keep his rep and ego intact, by saying he wanted to leave? I dunno. But I think NBC guessed that Conan would be the hotter commodity in 6 years, and that Jay would want to play with his cars, so they took a calculated risk. Jay was making too much money and having fun, so he said, screw that I aint retiring. That put NBC in same bind they are now. One show - two hosts who won't quit. I don't blame Leno for wanting his show back, cause he never wanted to leave it. It's unfair to Conan because he has no lead in, and when 10pm dramas come back, Jay will get a lead in, and the ratings will go back up again. But then again, Johnny Carson had to deal with no lead ins at all, but he pulled enormous ratings - but he didn't have late night comp either. No matter what, Conan gets screwed unless he finds a home on Fox or ABC and pulls good ratings.
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I guess we're going to be getting the Jay Leno equivalant of Jordan's Washington Wizards days, which will be extra sad considering how bad Leno's Tonight Show was before he retired.
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I imagine he spends days sitting in one of his classic cars crying until his next show (either stand up or tv).
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What will his staff do in the meantime? Hold out and hope for a Conan deal with FOX? At least they could have waited until AFTER the Winter Olympics to dump Conan. This is total bullshit.
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and gave him the benefit of the doubt. No longer. He clearly has deep-seated emotional problems. He got pissed at my local DJ in Atlanta (now in Boston) Fred Toucher for not liking Jersey Girl. He got pissed at Howard Stern and didn't come on anymore. He favors Jay because Jay hired Smith to do some shitty little videos or Kev-walking or some shit. He asked a Twitterer to remind him if he ever whines, conveniently forgetting whining for two straight podcasts that America ignored his poor man's Apatow movie and the Weinsteins didn't promote it right. Maybe it just sucked? Now he's making movies about fucking Mitch Alborn lyrics. Good luck in obscurity, Kev. See you on a VH1 show.
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That the guys films have been worse since he hooked up with Leno. Coincidence????
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Read what the fuck I wrote before you fucking spew your period all over the place. Bitch. I aint supporting either - cause i don't give a fuck. I was just answering the fucking question you.
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Leno, Zucker and NBC are getting completely owned in the media, at least the 'net media, which is becoming the only relevant form anyway. They can't spin their way out of this. Everyone knows what's going on. The Tonight Show now has a taint on it. Which celebrities are going to break and be willing to alienate fans of Conan and appear on Leno's show? Admittedly, Hollywood needs the Tonight Show to promote various projects. Is Leno going to rely on a steady diet of Seinfeld, Kevin Smith, Paul Reiser and contractually obligated gun-to-their-head reluctant actors of NBC shows?
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Jan 15, 2010 11:02:52 AM CST
Six Demon Bag: You Want Leno to Put Conan's Needs Above His Own?
by darfurontherocks2
Come one.... People are positing that all of this mess is NOT NBC's fault by Leno because he should have done something as naive as say "I have had my shot, I will bugger off silently..." Seriously.
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The guy who does the voiceovers for NBC's promos lended his voice to a short bit on The Tonight Show.
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Since he continues to do stand up, I'm sure a Las Vegas casino would be more than happy to give him a room for the blue haired slot pullers.
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is also being a coward. Conan was his guy from the start yet not a peep of support from him. Guess he wants to keep his long-unfunny SNL on the air instead of backing (former?) friend.
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Jan 15, 2010 11:06:47 AM CST
NBC should have Stuck with Conan, and Let Leno Go...
by darfurontherocks2
It is NBC's fault because they wanted to keep Leno AND Conan. The simplest solution was to Let Leno go to ABC/NBC and give 100% commitment to Conan. They did not, which indicates that they were not sold on Conan. The sad thing is that if the scenerio happened, the anti-Leno bridgade would say how Leno fucked over Kimmel/Fernstien who-ever. So ultimately want the anti-Leno clan wants is for Leno simply to quit TV. Leno typically does not care enough to acquiese..... Sorry!
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I too preferred Kilborn's Daily Show. I mean, his show was always good, and Stewart took YEARS to get it right. You remember the five questions? Oh, how I miss that! But you need to watch Daily Show again before judging too harshly. Stewart is now really funny, and while he still occassionally bashes Repubs (just like he occasionally bashed Dems when Bush was in office), most of the show is potshots at the current president and his admnistration.
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Are you seriously defending someone who reneges on a deal?
Carson didn't want to go but when he retired, he RETIRED -- he didn't actively undermine Leno's version of Tonight and he went to his grave with his reputation intact. Because Carson had class and Leno is a DOUCHE. -
Conan had the courage and self-respect to give his bosses the middle finger when they were trying to fuck him around.
Leno has no class and no courage. He's a cry-baby.
I'D LOVE TO SEE other NBC headliners leave in protest. Tina Fey and Conan are good friends. I'd love to see Tina Fey shop her "30 Rock" show to another network when her contract is up (or just pack it in altogether as a show of support). Fuck Leno, fuck NBC, and fuck anyone who agrees to be a guest on Leno's show. -
Fuck 'em. Please don't take this out of context, but FUCK LENO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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you dont say you're retiring unless you really are retiring or are trying to sweeten up a fat deal..regardless hes had his time in the glory and its time to move on with some ounce of dignity...cause hes not keeping it up right now..and NBC in the long run is fucking themselves..honestly after Leno "re retires", whos gonna want that job?hes tarnished a brand name and ruined his shitty repand yeah this couldve been averted by him declining to take back the tonight show...
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who has a fatter head? Jay Leno or Rush Limbaugh?
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Letting Conan go is gonna be one of the worst mistakes NBC has ever made. They fired Letterman back in the day and look where it got them. Jimmy Fallon would be wise not to ever accept the Tonight Show gig if he ever gets his chance cause hell be fired too.Conan should say good riddance to NBC. Since he moved to The Tonight Show he hasnt been able to do his best material anyways due to being on an earlier time slot. If Conan gets a new show on another network, first thing he should do is buy a bunch of NBC themed clothing and stuff, and let the Masturbating Bear go crazy on it.
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Jan 15, 2010 11:24:56 AM CST
If you have a big Ego - and he does
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
You don't say 'Hey I'm leaving because my bosses think the young kid can do better than me' - you say -'I'm retiring,' to save face. But, when it turns out that your bosses realize they made a mistake, and they beg you to come back -your ego is once again inflated, and you say. 'Sure i'll come back and rescue you.' Conan gets screwed in this, because of NBC's short sightedness. He never got a fair chance. leno is not to blame for not wanting to quit. Conan is not to blame for not wanting to quit. NBC is once again taking the short term over long term. They are the ones to blame.
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Ha! Thatd be awesome.
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The fallout from this won't be what some are predicting. Leno will get the show, celebs will still show up to pimp their movies/shows or in the case of famewhores, themselves.
There will be a taint on the show, specifically in the younger (key) demographic, and we'll continue to think Leno's a douchebag. We won't tune in.. but we probably weren't tuning in before.
I really doubt we'll boycott some celeb's movie or show because they appeared on the douchebag's show.
Sadly, when the next scandal or shiny object comes along, most of us will get distracted by that and forget about this other than the lingering feelings about each of the players (the network, the hosts). And that's significant.. but not earth shattering.
I'd like to see Conan try something more innovative with whatever he does next. Something that attempts to bridge the old late night TV norm and the new unknown needs of this net savvy demo that obviously loves him.
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Carson was taking weeks long vacations and was averaging a couple of new shows a week. But, yeah Carson was class though.... Next thing you will tell us that Carson was hip and his comedy was edgy....
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for Coco, even if Leno DIDNT want to retire there is no way he is not going to be seen as a complete douche after this. If Leno does go back on at 1130 and Conan goes to Fox and starts at 11, Leno (and Letterman sadly) will have a BIG challenge in front of them. Imagine, Fox programming followed immediately by Conan. No news in between to lose younger viewers who dont want to wait 35 min. Conan will own late night.
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Leno should have declined.... Tina Fey should leave in protest... Do TBer's actually work? I am wondering, because all of this moral posturing makes me wonder if people are living in a fantasy world...
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but now leno is the bad guy..regardless of who pulls the trigger...hes replacing conan (whos played this great in the media) and yes...HE CAN SAY NO...if he has any fucking spine left he can say THANKS BUT NO THANKS!!! hes a fucking shill, a scab, a company man...how much more money does this guy need..im sure when leno was sinking in the early 90s, NBC asked carson to come back and help out..you can be the bigger man by not talking someones job and destroying a lot of families lives..
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This is all a trick for ratings. What will happen? They will drag this out all through the Olympics just so you will watch them. Wait and see. NBC will win.
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Jan 15, 2010 11:39:11 AM CST
If Lorn Michaels would call the board/comcast and threaten to
by quin the eskimo
take his first look deal elsewhere, I guarantee you Comcast and Universal would shit the bed, and leave Conan alone.
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Jan 15, 2010 11:39:17 AM CST
If Lorn Michaels would call the board/comcast and threaten to
by quin the eskimo
take his first look deal elsewhere, I guarantee you Comcast and Universal would shit the bed, and leave Conan alone.
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I like that take. That fits in with that goofball article in The Atlantic yesterday painting Leno as a working class hero and Conan as an east coast elitist. Leno, you're a tool of management expediency, you SCAB DOUCHEBAG.
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Jan 15, 2010 11:44:23 AM CST
Leno was # 1 in the ratings for what 15, 16 straight years?
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
And he was forced out to make room for Conan, who through no fault of his own was unable to hold on to that # 1 slot. Leno is not an old man ready to be put out to pasture. NBc screwed up and is continuing to screw up.
And the argument about people being out of a job ignores the people who will be out of a job if Leno's 10 pm show is not pushed to 11:35. Conan could keep the jobs of his staff if he accepted the 12:05 slot. So don't try pulling that phony card. -
No, they don't. Most eat cheetos all day long and keep losing the remote in the seat cushions while waiting for Judge Judy to come on.
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Classy to the end, he preferred to leave the audience wanting more rather than have them sick of seeing his face.
But you are absolutely right about the finality of his retirement. And that is the biggest kicker that the Leno supporters keep over looking. On his own show, Jay handed over the Tonight Show to Conan. That is an indisputable fact. His run had ended. Good or bad, if Conan failed it should go to someone new and Jay should move on.
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david19, I'm not disputing your suggestion that Conan could provide some competition if he moved to FOX, but I thought I would mention that some FOX stations actually have a nightly newscast. WZDX Fox-54 in my hometown of Huntsville, AL, shows a news program at 9pm local time. I don't know if it's a local or national production, as I've never watched it.
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I remember when it ran for 90 minutes. Statring at 11:30. Then Carson took massive vacations, and had guest hosts, and moved the show from NYC to LA. In short, the show changed with the times and with the host. And as for longevity and being # 1 - hell Monday Night Football was an institution on ABC for over 30 years, but it got moved. I am not saying the Tonight show should be moved, I am saying it is not sacrosanct.
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That is all.
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Sup?
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Before The Jay Leno Show premiered, I went to bed way too late every night, and I always woke up feeling tires.
Thanks to The Jay Leno Show, when 10 o'clock rolls around and I hear his theme song, I now know that it's time to hit the sack.
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Not too much. How about you?
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Jan 15, 2010 12:04:57 PM CST
Just smacking, packing and stacking dude
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
So, who you got in this fight?
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So, I really don't know the players. But from what I read, I think NBC is making a mistake and should keep Conan - while developing some shows, maybe, Law and Order: The ingrown toenail unit?
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Lack of sleep = poor grammar
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Get some sleep
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Because back in 1992 he couldn't just have half of his show consist of showing funny youtube videos and guests driving around in an electronic car. You could suffer from dementia and still host that garbage.
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Wassup everyone.
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Not until Zucker and Leno arrive in Hades.
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NBC would move the kick-off to 4 am eastern time early Tuesday morning.
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Jan 15, 2010 12:10:40 PM CST
Maybe, but the local stations want action now
by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes
They don't want to wait until new shows come on, or Conan gets an audience, or Dave has a stroke.
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Or at least the Congress.
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Yeah, well you might be sleepless for a while then.
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How you doin'?
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It's lights out for everybody else.
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I snuck watching him as a kid. He was genuinely funny and entertaining.
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He's my goto guy for meds.
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Jan 15, 2010 12:17:06 PM CST
I guess Sam's not responding right away because he's not my sock
by margot_tenenbaum
Two Browsers, One Douche
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Jan 15, 2010 12:17:13 PM CST
be acreful BSB - you'll wind up hitting a fire hydrant
by toadkillerdog
And having a pissed off blond doing a butt stroke on your face with a 9 iron!
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Leno ruined "The Tonight Show" by making it safe, bland, predictable, and boring. It was pedestrian in the very worst way. Artistically, he didn't deserve it in the first place.
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That sounded sexy!
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with Hugo Chavez!
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it's still funnier than anything Leno has done since that Pat Morita buddy cop flick from the 80's.
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Seriously...
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But yeah, I guess I should explain, 'Butt stroke' is the term used in the military to describe being hit with the 'butt' or tail end of a weapon. Generally a smack upside the skull will do the trick. Ol Elin did a butt stroke on Tiger with a 9 iron as her weapon of choice.
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With little satan (Jeff Zucker) sitting on his shoulder.
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Jan 15, 2010 12:24:15 PM CST
I WAS THINKING MORE ALONG THE LINES OF JEFF AND JAY
by bringingsexyback
go to Guantanamo.
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Is high art compared to Leno.
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The Lenoites lost the game and now are spamming the talkback.
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As in life, everything is about context.
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last night, whatever the question. Jay took it in good humor, but still let the comments roll off his back like water on a duck. Best line was when Jimmy said he and Conan have children and all Jay has is his cars, to leave their shows alone and enjoy his 800 million. Leno followed with, "A plea from Jimmy Kimmel..coming up next.."and he just continued with the show. I think they invited Jimmy knowing they would address the issue that Jay has pretty much sidestepped all week long, with an occasional aside here and there.
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He's going to be the first to interview Tiger Woods after his scandal...mark my words. Hugh Grant 2.0.
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Because Kimmels right.
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What came first, the fire hydrant or the golf club? I think she smacked his ass around before he hit the hydrant!
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I gotta ask your gender. If you dont want to, thats cool.
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with Kevin Smith! Tonight Kevin gets high and talks about shooting his goo on his wife's leg.
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Unfortunately, You know something is fucked up when certain elements are calling for Leno to burn in hell that indicates something rather disturbing.
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Kind of like nutjobs that get bent out of shape about Sarah Palin jokes.
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Jan 15, 2010 12:47:17 PM CST
killer lineup conan then kevin smith at fox
by rene_belloq_12inch_figure
or lewis black.
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Asking someone to act with honor and class = burn in Hell? Can you read or are you just a hysteric?
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Hear me NBC execs DO THIS!!! It would be a success, I promise you. Give Conan his own new show, fire Leno's ass once and for fucking all!!!
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He blamed the earthquake in Haiti on Jay Leno.
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I am just stating that the amount of vitriol that you are spewing along others, that want him to burn in hell, is pathetic. I am sure that you can gain some solace knowing that neither Leno or CoCo give two shits about either of us!
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Jan 15, 2010 12:57:34 PM CST
Lead-ins to the local news matters because most people
by coughlins laws
don't give a shit who they watch locally. If you're watching a 10pm show and it ends on the news, you're really not gonna give a shit which worthless local news team you watch. I think that's totally different from choosing which Late Night Guy to watch. As far as the NBC schedule, CBS's Prime Time has been kicking NBC's ass for half a decade now, yet Leno STILL always beat Letterman...
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honestly he got what was coming to him and he should have seen it. We may not all like Leno, but he gets much much higher ratings (when he was in the original timeslot) than Conan or Letterman got. Now I'm just going to be watching the CBS talk shows. Conan was shittier than Leno on the Tonight Show, only recently were his jokes decent and that was because he was pissed. Team Letterman.
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He wasn't like all those other pussah young'ns. He equally teased the shit out of Conan AND NBC.
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Jay Leno is wonderful. He really is funny. He is a saint. Jay is the most open and honest person in the whole world. Jay Leno cures cancer. Jay Leno's chin is like a beautiful summer sunset.
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but this is business. And I honestly find it hard to believe that Conan has this many fans. If he did then the show wouldn't be cancelled now would it? The dude lost his mojo since he moved to the Tonight Show. Fucking bores the shit out of me. Letterman king of all.
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Jan 15, 2010 1:13:28 PM CST
So did I call JAY LENO a SCAB DOUCHEBAG or did I say he should b
by margot_tenenbaum
Make up your mind.
Amongst people who 'matter', Conan was called 'Chicken-Hearted And Gutless' by one of his co-workers. What level of vitriol is that? -
None of these fuckers are paying my mortgage.... I am sure that Leno, Conan, Letterman, and Kimmel will find some way to endure.
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Jay has a very masculine non-effeminate lisp.
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We should all feel sorry for Carson Daly. I guess he can still do the inevitable Time Life infomercial for boybands and popstars of the 90's box set.
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Conan was simply asked to accomodate their proven ratings-loser by moving the Tonight Show into the next day.
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With Ahmed Best.
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One thing that I do find ridiculous is some of the complaints about Conan's ratings. If back when Leno was handed over the Tonight Show they gave Carson a new 10pm show, how would Carson basically doing the same show before Leno even came on affect Leno's ratings? And yes I understand at that point Carson wouldn't have been doing a daily show, it's just the principle. Why stay up to watch the Tonight Show with Jay Leno, when the faux "Tonight Show" with Carson is on at 10pm?
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Jan 15, 2010 1:34:02 PM CST
It's dishscrimanashun! Big Chins and Big Hair but no Big Ears!
by dirk_the_amoeba
Will Smif for Tonight show host! Bringing big ears back baby!
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and keep conan and i bet conan will kick ass.
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We have yet to hear from Craig Kilborn, about this whole thing.
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you're at work and you're basically on your way out..you've even mentioned to the bosses that you're retiring in a few months...sure they said...we're gonna line up someone to take your place...some guy from another state..does a pretty good job over there too we hear..your last day comes and you realize you dont really wanna go but its too late...its okay..your boss says, since we've already flew the new guy and his family here, we can transfer you or you can take a wicked retirement package...you take the transfer but it really isnt what it used to be...your friends said they would call and hang out but they're in another building..slowly and slowly you're work production is slacking off..and your bosses see it...its not your fault you say..this isnt my normal work space..and i noticed that my lack of production has fucked the other guy too..he isnt doing that well either...you tell your boss..if you let me have my job back i could do betteryour boss is in a moral dilemna..clearly you are on the way out but now you really dont want to retire cause frankly you have nothing better to do...so he fires the new guy, and makes him pack it upso you go back to your old job and everyone there is looking at you with utter contempt because basically you fucked over a lot of people through your own selfishness...i ask you all this...would you do this?--would you fuck over a coworker and take his job?
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but you really dont need money...you're already rich enough to buy hundreds of cars and cycles...he would be able to live comforatbly in retirement
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Can always use another classic Amoeba mobile! Besides, big hairy guy ainy gonna be strapped for cash. He will get a real nice settlement, maybe even his entire contract money due him - plus he will not have to work at all for 3 years! That is cushy!
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Cause you about to get fucked!
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Thing is they LIKE to work.
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made a surprise appearance on SNL this week?
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She talked about how sad and pathetic Jay is. How he doesn't have children or see his wife much and is uneducation. Yikes!
It's true that Leno does seem kind of pathetic clinging to this thing -
Jay should have said, "if you loved them so much, why didn't you stay with them and their Mom instead of shacking up with Sarah" The whole thing with Kimmel looked like a setup. Jay looked uncomfortable, but I think he gave Jimmy the greenlight to dump on him, like Dean Martin roast. I actually met Jay at a special olympics fund raiser years ago, he seemed like a cool, nice guy, but he should let Conan have the Tonight show
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He could have said no and retired as he promised Conan. He had the final word.
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heh.
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Jan 15, 2010 2:17:02 PM CST
10 @ 10 with Jimmy Kimmel: What genius thought that up?!
by royston lodge
Even Leno's staff must hate him if they had the balls to set that up.
Sadly, Kimmel wasn't particularly funny. He was just mean. I agree with him and all, but I would still expect him to bring the funny.
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She attacked a guest on her own show (Tom Sellick). She's a loudmouthed obnoxious cow.
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Rosie gave us Riding The Bus With my Sister. For that, I will be eternally grateful.
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...if Conan were fucking Jay Leno, then Leno would finally have a single funny bone in his body. LOL at THAT! I'm behind Conedog all the way.
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His contract negotiations five years ago giving him Jay's show in 2009 should have addressed the ratings issue which is the REAL cause behind the current conundrum IMHO.
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but what about all the families who uprooted to LA from NY in order to do the tonight show..friends and families left behind...all because Leno has no life outside of his show...pathetic...
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that he's aware of the hate and it doesn't bother him. He laughs at it too. He's in on the joke. So then the public doesn't hate him as much. Sorry Jay. It isn't work. You're fucking fake ass douche! Retire old man!
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Jay can't beat Letterman in the ratings?
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Clone Johnny Carson, but mix in some alien DNA like Ellen Ripley.
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Crossing my fingers, finally NBC will realize how much a waste of time, The Crimson Chin, really is.
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Then, he'll be gone and NBC will beg Conan to come back.
Conan will however, be laughing right back at then.
One day, NBC will realize, it made a big mistake.
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Leno goes back to The Tonight Show. Conan heads to Fox. Once it becomes clear to Leno and NBC that he just isn't going to pull No. 1 numbers anymore, it'll painfully dawn on them that Leno has to go. It may take years, but it'll happen. And after he finally bows out, NBC makes a play for Jon Stewart.
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Sadly, ratings are the entire story here which is why Conan's handlers should have dealt with this possibility five years ago.The cold hard facts are that Jay WAS number one in the slot, ahead of Letterman.Minus Jay, Letterman rockets to the top against Conan. Unfortunately, that is how the suits see it.
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i dont think anyone in their right mind is gonna take the job after Leno "leaves"..its dead...seriously, would you trust the situation after that?the tonight shows reputation is tarnished...its like having a broken down deLorean..sure once it WAS cool...but your dipshit brother took it for a joyride and killed the carbeurator and brought it back with no gas...now its just sitting in the drive way with a flat tire...
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Jan 15, 2010 3:30:13 PM CST
Iron Man's with Team Jay; Captain America's with Conan...
by mrmysteryguest
It's another CIVIL WAR!!!!
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http://losangeles. craigslist.org/sfv/clt/1551463643.html
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... oh, I don't think anybody would want it. I just wouldn't be surprised if NBC made a play for Stewart. It would be a fitting and satisfying coda to this debacle were Stewart to publicly rebuke those fuckers.
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From the Hollywood reporter- Based on preliminary metered-market estimates, on Thursday night O’Brien drew a 1.9 in the adult demo — nearly double his usual average. That’s 27% higher number at 11:35 p.m. than Jay Leno, who drew a 1.5 using the same type of measurement, earned at 10 p.m. NBC research is unsure, but this might be the first time O’Brien has ever beat Leno in their current slots. NBC Universal sports chairman Dick Ebersol may have picked the wrong day to bash O’Brien’s show as “an astounding failure.”
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Jan 15, 2010 3:48:31 PM CST
Funny to see Kimmel and Rosie criticize Leno for no kids
by takingscorpioscalls
One is divorced and the other can only be fucked by a strapon.
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I always got the impression that he wife was a castrating feminazi.
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http://tinyurl.com/y939n45
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Will be the best one yet!
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http://tinyurl.com/yezjqhn
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They could have fertility issues, or Jay's wife might just be a beard.
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Darth Leno
By the way he did Doritos ads, once.
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Leno doesn't have much of a life outside of the show. He just can't handle not being the center of attention. He's scared of having nothing to do. Prick.
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I could give a good god damn about this bunch of narcissist multi-millionaires and their overriding need for public adulation. The only people I feel the least bit sorry for are the non-contractual working stiffs folks who hitched their careers to these dicksucks.Fact 1...Jay and Conan are both so rich as to never have to work again, this is all about the ego. Fact 2...When you work for someone...you do what you are fucking told unless you have it in writing you do not have too. Conan fucked up and didn't get his time slot in the contract. I dare any of you to go to your Direct manager and tell them you refuse to work at the time they need you too work after getting a bad performance review (what Conan is basically doing)...you'll be out the door on your ass in a minute.Jay is a Dick....always has been...everyone in Hollywood is, it is the only way to get to the top. NICE GUYS do not get to the top folks...Jay, Conan, Letterman, Kimmel...all these guys would throw thier mothers under a bus is they thought it would get them a step up the ladder...all of them have.So Fuck them all...and fuck all of us for giving these douchebags so much of our attention.
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That's a great piece.
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I concur, it was an excellent piece.
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This sucks ass. I hope Conan goes to Fox and buries Leno. I hope a dark cloud forms over Leno's The Tonight Show and both viewers and celebrities avoid it like Ebola.
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Yeah, I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. I didn't realize not having kids made you automatically an asshole. I mean, Leno is an asshole, but not because he doesn't have kids. There are plenty of nice people out there without children. Rosie's an idiot.
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http://tinyurl.com/6g9qlz
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By the way, check out thhe upper corner!
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Jan 15, 2010 4:24:29 PM CST
No one's going on Leno. Try finding guests you NBC tool!!
by onin solstice
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Don't kid yourselves. A struggling comic would be more than happy to get a shot on Leno's program, scandal or not.
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I'm sure they'll forgive Leno, sad to say.
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Tegan & Sara performing on the tonight show with Conan as host. Good times. Would be better that in 2-3 years or less that they come baq and perform and he's still as host.
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here- http://www.firstshowing.net /2010/01/15/watch-this-first-official-trailer-for-jon-foos -tekken-movie/
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OF COURSE Kimmel, Letterman, etc..will attack Leno, Conan has been a BOON to their ratings numbers. Do you think they want they guy who won the ratings war for 13years back at 11:30?Civilians are looking at this like there is some actual "Hate" towards Leno from these other hosts...and it is nothing at all personal, but just good business to try to damage him as much as possible while they can. None of these people are "Friends" like you and I know the term..they are all competitors...and take any and every opportunity to kick each other when they are down.If people ever needed evidence that 99% of the folks in Hollywood are nasty, selfish, and the very essence of asshole...this episode is providing it.
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If it comes to that, that'll be one of the most youtubed interviews of all time. I'm still hoping Nuthin But Community comes to their senses and keeps Conan on Tonight show @ it's 11:35 time, but if not then we can see Coco and The Gap doubleteam the chin.
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I consider it my responsibility to bring light to this often dark and cramped corner of the internets.
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should call themselves Chinese phone-books. You know, to stay classy.
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Letterman = win When all this shit blows over in the end, will you guys even be watching Conan's new show? His comedy has been declining rapidly the past few years. Jay Leno sucks but gets big ratings. The timeslot didn't work for him, but back in Tonight Show I think he'll do well. But fuck NBC's hosts (including Conan and Fallon). CBS lineup makes these guys look like the joke they are. Letterman/Ferguson FTW!
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but I will be watching Conan's new series.
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According to "The Wrap" Conan gets 30 million to walk. I don't know about the noncompete clause though.
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W Kurt Russel as the host. Prince as the sassy musical sidekick.
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what does he care?
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on any network. He's close to his staff. They up-rooted their lives to move to California. Now they're fucked unless Conan gets signed somewhere. Fuck Leno!
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Jan 15, 2010 6:49:24 PM CST
Who is going to take over from Letterman in a few years?
by throwmetheidol
Craig? Seriously I can't see Craig being up to it even if you like him. What do you guys think?
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Letterman hates Leno, haven't you seen The Late Shift ever? Leno is doing the same thing to Conan he did to Letterman, he's a double crossing little bitch. i think late night with conan o brien was even produced by worldwide pants letterman's own production company.
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That's the REAL question!
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haven't watched any of 'em in years; if there's a musical guest I like, I just record it to watch at later date and zip through any interview jibber jabber and such. By 11:30 most nights, I am over out. And I prefer full days to long late nights anyway.
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Leno's a scumbucket.
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Selfish, hack, piece of shit. Conan has been anally raped by Leno and his NBC bitches. Pig fucker....
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Its official, Team Conan now have God on their side.
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And he's bringing the power of Greyskull with him!
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The Autobots will rescue the masturbating bear from NBC's prison!
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According to TMZ, he's itching to force choke Zucker and Ebersol.
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It still holds up if you can get past the fake chin and bad hair. It actually doesn't make Jay out to be that bad although Helen Kushnick does look really bad. Jay definitely kissed a lot more ass than Dave did, thats definitely why he got Tonight. Now that I think about it though I can't believe Jay didn't know how Kushnick was trying to push Johnny Carson out the door. I definitely think Jay fucked over Conan though and Dave could've probably done that before he jumped to CBS, but he knew it would look bad and because the Tonight Show wasn't Johnny's at that point. Jay doesn't have a conscience apparently because he has no problem fucking over Conan even if it damages Tonight and Jay himself!
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The word is, Leno will get a huge poke to the eye.... money shot style!
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If so that would roq. If he can teach moves to bob barker, you know Conan is gonna karatasize some big chin @$$!!!!
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Apparently Leno even stinks worse!
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The show opens live from Hell Arena as we join our announce team Rick Rude and Gorilla Monsoon.
Rude: Welcome everybody to Dead Wrestling Incorperation, This is DWI Overdose! Gorilla i am excited about what is about to go down here tonite! How ya feeling Monsoon?
Monsoon: Dead
Rude: i think we pretty much all feel that way, haha. lets head to the ring where the action is about to go down
Crash Holly vs. Test vs. Chris Candido vs Crush (Fatal Four Way, Pills on a Pole Match)
Crash Enters, but pukes on his way to the ring
Monsoon: Oh My, Crash just puked!
Rude: Yeah, well atleast his awake this time, no chance of choking on it.
Test, Candido and Crush enter the ring
Rick Rude: For the viewers at home, im gonna give you a quick rundown of the stipulations for this match, four men will enter the ring, on the 4 corners of the ring are poles, on top of each pole is a bag filled with painkillers, the first wrestler to climb the pole and bring down the bag of pills wins the match.
Randy"Pee Wee" Anderson checks the wrestlers, and signals for the fight to begin.
Test and Crush exchange punches, as do Candido and Holly. Test powerbombs crush and clotheslines the other 2. Test gets 2 tables and stacks them on top of one another, grabs Candido, as Crash goes to the apron. Crush comes over and Test and Crush double chokeslam Candido through the table as Crash fly off the apron with an elbow. The Cameras pan to Candidos leg, that appears to have been fractured in 2 places.
Rude: THAT WAS RAVISHING!
Monsoon: This isnt the pure technical wrestling I was involved in, wheres a classic chicken wing? When me and Gorgeous Geo-
Rude: Go f*ck yourself Gorilla, back to the action in the ring!
Test slams Crush into the Barricade. Crash Holly is freebasing cocaine in the the corner. Candido notices his leg, and turns into a wildman. Candido NEEDS these pills.
Rude: Ive seen that look before, it reminds me of how Bossman used to get when he couldnt get his pills, didnt he feed Al Snow a dog and steal Big Shows fathers casket
Monsoon: He Sure Did! Gifted Talent, Gifted Talent
Rude: One of the best in the business
Candido takes a splinter from the broken tables and drives it into the chest of Crush, then takes Crash's pipe and throws it into the crowd. Crash runs into the crowd punching fans. It leaves Test and a hobbled Candido left in the ring, as a bloody Crush lays dying.
Rude: Test and Candido are the last 2 standing, WHO WILL GET THE PAIN PILLS!
Candido pulls a gun that he had hidden in his trunks and shoots Test in the face.
Monsoon: Thats against the rules! thats an illegal object!
Rude: This was a no DQ match, a gun is not against the rules!
Candido climbs the pole grasping his leg and grabs the bags of pills. Then to next 3 corners and has all four bag of pills. Candido proceeds to swallow all of the pills, and goes into shock and then seizure and dies in the ring.
Rude: Candido won! but things seem to be taking a turn for the worst.
We head into commercial breaks as EMTS try to pump Candidos stomach, Test lays dead from a gunshot wound, a pale-white Crush hemmoraging, and Crash rabidly attacking the fans.
::Commercial Break::
Rude: Welcome Back to DWI Overdose! We have Mike Awesome against The Renegade in a Mississippi Noose Match. The rules are simple, there are nooses hanging from the Titantron, the first wrestler to climb the Titantron and hang himself wins the match!
Monsoon: I remember when we used to just go out there and show our athleticism and use the proper holds. Like when me and Lou The-
Rude: Choke on a c*ck and die already old man, this is sports entertainment, we let our guys go out there, punish themselves physically and mentally, throw them away like trash, and when theyre out of the limelight, abuse drugs and slowly slip into insanity until they hurt themselves or others. THIS IS WHAT WRESTLING IS ALL ABOUT!! I LOVE IT!!!
Rude does line of coke to keep this party going
Monsoon is confused
Mike Awesome vs. The Renegade ( Mississippi Noose Match)
Both men enter the ring, A stare-down ensues. Both look unstable. Mike Awesome punches Renegade. Renegade thrives on the pain and seems to enjoy it. Renegade slams Mike Awesome to the ground and starts biting his leg.
::Weird Asian Music Plays::
Rude: Whats this!
David Carridine runs down to the ring in a referee shirt!
Rude: David Carradine is the suprise Guest Referee!!
Renegade takes a chair, as does Mike Awesome. Rather than hit their opponent they start hitting themselves with the chairs. Carradine sticks his hands down his pants. Both men lay bleeding, Awesome stands up and starts walking up the entrance ramp. Renegade chases after hit and delivers a ddt. Renegade starts climbing the Titantron.
::Lame 80"s Music plays::
Out come the Von Erich Brothers, all with guns in hand. Renegade starts putting the noose over his head. Carradine, close to climax, screams with joy, The Von Erichs count to 3 and then fire the pistols at their heads. All drop in unison. Renegade then dives from the Titantron and snaps his neck.
Rude: RENEGADE WINS!!
Mike Awesome looks around and sees the dead Von Erichs, and Renegade hanging from the stage. Mike Awesome climbs the Titantron and hangs himself as well. Carradine is jumping for joy at the sight, and proceeds to start climbing
Rude: Whats Carridine doing!
Carridine hangs himself. Camera pans out and the destruction in the arena is shocking
Rude: We'll be right back with more Overdose!
:: Commercial Break::
Rude: Welcome back folks (sound of Rude snorting a line, speech is faster) WE GOTTA,GOT,GOTTA, B-B-BIG MATCH UP NEXT! SH*T, UH UM WRESTLING EH WRESTLING
Monsoon: Why dont you let me take this from here Rick
Rude: Dont judge me Monsoon!!!who are you huh? who are you?
Monsoon: Up next is Bam Bam Bigelow, Umaga and Yokozuna in a triple threat match.
Bam Bam Bigelow vs. Umaga vs Yokozuna
The three men enter the ring. All three start to run at one another but pause, stop, and fall to the ground. Referee Randy Anderson checks all three men, waves his hands and signals for the bell.
Rick Rude: DEAD, GORILLA, DEAD, ALL THREE HAHA! WOAH!
Monsoon: Im getting word right now that all three men have suffered major heart attacks, it appears that they are no longer with us
Rick Rude: GREAT NIGHT, GREAT NIGHT, LOVE IT, YA KNOW LOOOOOVE IT! YEAH!
Public Enemy and Road Warrior Hawk vs Brian Pillman, British Bulldog, and The Blue Blazer
The Blue Blazers music plays, but he does not walk down the entrance way
Rude: LOOK UP TO THE ROOF, BLUE BLAZER!
As he says that a sound of cable breaking rings out, Blue Blazer comes rocketing down to ring.
Rude: Gotta love this Action!
Blazer hits his head on the ring post and his neck snaps in half. EMTs rush in and cart him away.
Bulldogs music plays, as does Pillman, Hawks, and Public Enemys, but no one enters the ring.
Monsoon: Where is everybody?
as he says that the camera cuts to a split view of the two teams locker rooms. Pillman and Bulldog are lying still with needles in their arms, Hawk, Rocco Rock and Johnny Grunge are surrounded by beer cans and baggies of cocaine. All appear to be dead
Rick Rude: Looks like some good stuff they got going on back there, im just mad nobody invited me, haha, right Gorilla?
Monsoon: I remember when we ate suger for a good pickup before a match, like when me and Verne Gagn-
Rude: NO ONE CARES! OKAY!? NO ONE CARES! IT WAS 50 F*UCKING YEARS AGO! OKAY!? OKAY!?
Mr Perfect's Music Plays
Mr Perfect walks to the ring with a gym bag, and grabs a mic
Mr. Perfect: Theres alot of guys in the back that think they can go toe to toe with me, think they can hang with the big boys, but theyre wrong. Im perfect and they simply are not. Shooting basketballs, I win, doing pushups, I win, and the thing Mr Perfect is best at.......IS THIS!
Mr Perfect reaches into his gym bag and display a large bag of cocaine.
Mr. Perfect: So im throwing out an open challenge, anyone in this arena that wants to go toe to toe, or should i say line for line, with Perfection, then step into this ring right now!
Ric Flairs music plays
Ric Flair: Mr. Pefect, WOOOO! You didnt know I was in this building, The Limosuine Driving, Jumbojet Flying, Cocaine Lining, son of bitch, WOOOO The Nature Boy Ric WOOOOO Flair!
Ring crew sets up a table and two chairs in the ring, and the two legends go at it. Rude licks his lips
Rude (salivating): this one is hard to call, ive seen these boys blow back many a line in my time in the business,
Flair and Perfect go back and forth for 20 minutes, line after line. Perfect seems off, Flair unfazed.
Rude: Things are heating up!
Perfect clutches his chest and falls backwards out of his chair and lays cunvulsing on the mat. Randy Anderson checks Perfect and declares that he is indeed dead. Flair invites Roddy Piper to the ring, they finish off the remaining cocaine, Dance and run around and leave
Rude: that may have been the most impressive thing i have ever seen in a wrestling ring. two legends going at it, but as we all know, to be the man you gotta beat the man, and Flair is simply unbeatable in a cocaine-off.
::commercial break::
Rude: Welcome Back to DWI OVERDOSE! Up next is the main event, the rematch we have all been waiting for......In a handicap match......The Rabid Wolverine.....The Canadian Crippler......Chris Benoit...............against his wife and son Nancy and Daniel Benoit!!! A good ol' family feud!!!
Monsoon: This is in extremely poor taste, this company is sick.
Rude: This is Sport Entertainment Gorilla!! Change with the time old man, this is entertainment! Like Vince bringing Pillman widow do and interview the day after her husband died, or Vince making Eddie Guerrero's widow a whore on national T.V., this is wrestling Gorilla, there is no such thing as poor taste, death is ratings, and ratings is money, its as simple as that. If these guys die, so what we'll replace em with a whole new lineup of guys to destroy. I LOVE IT!
Chris Benoit vs. Nancy and Daniel Benoit
Chris picks up the pace early clotheslining his wife and young son
Rude: Daniel is not only 7 years old, but hes also retarded, If im the Crippler, i take advantage of this and capitalize on his weaknesses
Chris grabs a chair and repeatedly beats his wife with it.
Rude: Chris has opened up a cut on Nancy.
He this goes under the ring and gets a table. He sits his young son on the top rope and SUPERPLEX! through the table. He switches his focus on Nancy and delivers a few more chair shots, and goes under the apron and get a sack of thumbtacks. He covers the mat with thumbtacks and grabs his wife from behind. German suplex!, he holds on, German suplex!, holds on again and German Suplex!
Rude: Chris just did his trademark triple german suplex to his wife Nancy on thumbtacks! This is Sports Entertainment at its BEST!
Chris then grabs his son and set him on the spanish announce table. Climbs to the top rope. and Diving Headbutt through the table!!!!
He goes under the apron once again and gets a barbedwire baseball bat. He then savagely beats his wifes body until she is laying lifeless in the ring covered in blood. THE CROWD GOES WILD!
Benoit then grabs his son Daniel and CRIPPLER CROSSFACE!!!!!!!!. he locks on the the hold and pulls back hard, Pee Wee Anderson checks if Daniel wants to tap, he does not
Rude: Its possible that Daniel doesnt understand what Pee Wee is asking him. He is 7, Retarded and has been put through 2 tables......
Benoit pulls back harder and harder until the boy is now longer breathing. Pee Wee checks Daniel, and he is indeed dead. the bell sounds and The Rabid Wolverine stands with his arms raised covered in his wife and sons blood and the crowd chants his name as the camera fades to black.
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He will break Jay Leno's back and make him humble!
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But I bet he's on Team Conan, Wooooooo!
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He and the nWo are gonna run wild on NBC!
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He getting some big named guests to appear. One is Howard Stern, who hates Leno. That should be a blast. Stern will not hold back.
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Craig Kilborn's daily show was closer to "talk soup" than the daily show we see today. They did have their investigative reports, which were hilarious, but the interviews were always focussed far more on "stars" and movie plugs ( which the current daily show is not immune to of course ) The genius of the John Stewart era of shows is that the "real" political focused humor part of the show was virtually untapped and he slowly ramped it up. This is no coincidence that at the same time, the show started to gain tremendous respect. The turning point was when he nailed Hannity and Combs. It was absolutely brilliant tear down of those guys. And remember Colbert is the one that is mostly antirepublican. Stewart makes no secret of his affiliations, but nearly this entire year has been filled with cracks about democrats basically being useless. I mean I'm not blind ord eaf. I know which way the daily show leans, but it's almost a requirement these days when Fox news leans sooo far the other way.
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Ever notice how "Team Coco" posters seem to sound like they snort copious amounts of this stuff?
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for everything, saying we picked the wrong man. Total back-stabbery to Conan and the entire crew.
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While Leno was king of latenight Kimmel was running around in man-diapers for his show.
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it probably won't happen. As Stern has said repeatedly he has a phobia of flying and even if he did go on there and said what he thought about Leno they probably wouldn't even let it air so what's the point? It's a shame too because both Stern and Conan taking a giant shit on Leno's reputation for an hour would just about make me the happiest man on Earth.
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and I do co-CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINE!!
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As is conan...leno just stabs you in the back as he smiles at you
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now I know I'm on the right side. http://outlawvern.com/2010/01/15/dont-be/
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influence is still the truth.
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Because he saw his numbers increase after Conan took the Tonight show...that is why. Unlike Leno, who kept his audience for the full hour...with Conan some of these people bailed for Kimmel at midnight surprisingly enough. Not on at the same time...but able to leech viewers from Conan, something he never did with Leno. Hell...Even Nightline saw an uptick in ratings during Conans reign...and those viewers stayed for Kimmel as well.
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funny how everyone here thought this was the worst idea ever...yet none of us make million making programming decisions they oughta put the entire talkback on the payroll...we can fix nbc
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First, Leno won't come crawling back, he'll come joking back. The people who think he's funny will laugh. The people who DON'T think he's funny won't be watching anyway (at least I hope they won't). Second, at first I too thought it would be cool if Dave gave offered his show to Conan now, or in the future. But then I remembered that I think Craig Ferguson is the funniest mother fucker on late night tv right now and he should be offered that time slot first.
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Love the Jack Chick reference.
You're a funny man. -
Cause he has no integrity. They are doing the right thing by standing by conan because he's getting fucked. The honorable. And decent thing to do is keep your word and let conan do what he was hired to
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than a host. Seriously, count how many times during ANY monologue he talks about himself. He's always had the worst monologue of the bunch.
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everybody else drools
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I was SO sad when it got cancelled. He was like,"We havent even left the studio yet and they're already bringing in the game show equipment!"
*pushes button* BUZZ! -
Fuck COCO and Leno. They're both unfunny hacks. One tweaks his nipples and tries to get laughs by making dumb noises. The other guy just passes all his jokes off to the black dude.
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http://tinyurl.com/y8zvujb what a bunch of crap...I refuse to even watch Chuck anymore and i love that show, but i cannot support such a crap network
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Whoever subtitled that needs a raise. Very funny
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Jan 15, 2010 9:56:40 PM CST
Leno can't accept the fact that people die, things end
by doctorfalcormd
his cars will one day be dust.
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not bad pay for 7 months of work
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Not bad for 6 months lol.. And a deal with Fox. Sounds like he'll be better off..
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so no...conan aint getting fucked...he is getting rich and can start working elsewhere at anytime leno fucked dave and carson...he is good at that...who cares
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seriously? I liked Conan late night better anyways but this whole situation is fucking bizarre.
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An inspiring name for an inspiring man.
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And decires Leno's baseless desires. Which is causing much suffering.
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I mean, INSANE! They're buying out Conan's contract and bringing back Leno, for what? Were they really loosing THAT MUCH money in advertising dollar? Because, that's insane! And what are they going to program at 10 PM five nights a week? Oh well, I guess the late night news folks will be happier. But what it Leno continues to tank at 11:35? This whole this is just, ya know, insane!
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Good thing I don't write a blog or a column or something. *cough*
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Jan 15, 2010 10:41:42 PM CST
Leno will probably start his usual "appear on my show FIRST...."
by annoyyou
"...or I will ban you from my show!" gambit with celebrity guests who are trying to promote movies, CDs, TV shows, etc. He's notorious for that, but maybe he's tainted enough now that such threats won't fly anymore.
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Since Conan took over, the Tonight Show's ratings tumbled horribly. Over the last few years, Leno was consistently beating Letterman.
Again, I'm not entirely sure why people are blaming Leno when it's obviously NBC's failed experiment.
Jeez. -
Fuck taking care of Scientologists. Handle Leno first.
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right now?
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^
this -
Avatar, i still have not seen it...i will soon...BUT everytime i see those commerials: those waterfalls feel stupid and illogical. I hope Cameron has not gone too PG/Lucas on us. Well, i can only hope.
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Ava-OOOOps!
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...Leno wanted to stop doing the late night gig and NBC got him to move to ten. Don't like, quote me, but he did have something to do with that whole change around taking place. And people are blaming him now because he could just take his ridiculous fortune and go tinker with his cars until the end of his days. He makes MASSIVE dollars doing comedy gigs still anyway. Also, Conan is correct is his stating that his version of the Tonight Show needed time to grow and build organically. He was never allowed to get away from Jay because Jay is all people have been talking about. Plus, many people were leaving NBC and not coming back at 10 PM. That's why the late night news people were freaking out at all the NBC affiliates. Lastly, Leno wasn't always beating Dave. And when he wasn't, he was given the time he needed to figure things out and let his audience grow. So, yeah, Leno deserves the hate. Really.
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Seriously, they covered that in the Scientific Avatar thread. Not sure if it's still up on the front page. But the plausibility/possibility of that working was covered. But honestly, by the time you see them the suspense of disbelief in floating mountains with waterfalls is really pretty easy. Unless you're just naturally inclined to dislike floating mountains with waterfalls, I suppose.
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I'm really starting to believe that Jay Leno wasn't the dumb puppy dog blindly obeying his wicked witch manager like he was portrayed in the movie. I think they probably were just playing the old "good cop, bad cop" act on NBC. Leno probably approved of (or even planned) the things she did. And he even kicked her to the curb when she became an inconvenience.
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My local news doofuses pre-empted it with some sort of football crap and the creepy guy show.
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Sounds like Leno did air on your local affiliate, sanzaru.
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Jan 15, 2010 11:32:17 PM CST
I love Conan but....Stewart deserves the Late Show more
by doctorfalcormd
Leno is a cunt
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... about there being any no-compete clause as a condition of Conan's departure? Or can he go to a new network when he wants?
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that's what my 6 year old daughter says. Hung by their necks she decrees, and their 800 hundred million dollars be given back to the children of the world. I can't control her; she's already made a pact with mother earth to eat and shit out the cunt face that is know n as Jeffrey Zucker. You will die Zucker; we are coming for you...
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missed the science thread. will see this at IMAX, Ft. Lauderdale soon.
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He's admitting that NBC only wants someone who appeals to the masses. Creativity be damned! Why should Conan change his style? That's being "Stubborn"?
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His "Whaa" everyone's blaming me" monologues are not helping his cause at all. At least by funny when you're trying to make a point.
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Jay Leno is the Sylvia Browne of comedy. Misses the mark and anything he gets right is a fluke. He should just f*ckin retire and do something he is actually good at like wandering around his airport sized hangars of cars getting Eubanks to laugh at him.
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this is all just a big publicity stunt. I Conan remains at the tonight show it was all just a huge Fuck you to everybody, just to get his ratings up.
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If Conan remains at the TONIGHT SHOW.I ment to say.
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I don't understand a lot of the freaking out regarding all things Avatar. I went in walking a middle line; hadn't made up my mind to love it or hate it before hand. I ended up REALLY enjoying the IMAX 3D experience and liking the 2D presentation enough that I will buy it on DVD.
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You twit.
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If you think Leno's innocent, check out the pattern of treachery,
laid bare here:
http://tinyurl.com/yzunsf3
First he says he's retiring, then he says he never wanted to leave. Balderdash! Chicanery! -
Only five episodes left, right? This will be an epic week of TV.
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Fuck..I work 8am-6pm, sometimes till 7pm. The only people I know who watch late night TV are my 69yr old parents.And how can any of you CRY over a guy landing a $30,000,000 vacation? I bet Conan already has a flight booked to Amsterdam, where a mountain of blow and an entire block of Russian hookers has been reserved for the retirement party.
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I actually watch Conan, Dave, Craig, and Jimmy, whenever I get the chance.
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Jeff Bridges was awesome on Conan's show, yesterday.
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It was great!
Conan laid way into NBC, big time! -
The only thing John Stewart deserves is a bullet fired into his big, liberal mouth.
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"Even Dave Letterman's taking shots at me," he continued. "Which surprised me, usually he's just taking shots at the interns."
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God, I love this. Almost two-decades of simmering late night TV animosity bursting forth. It's cathartic. Next week's Tonight Show could really be something.
And I hate to give them the money, but head on over the NBC store while you can and snag some Tonight Show With Conan O'Brien stuff. Your ironic hipster children will look pretty cool with a TSWCOB tumbler at some party in 25 years. -
...he (like Letterman) wanted the "Tonight Show" that Carson left. Carson left it a highly-regarded and well-loved masterpiece of a legacy. What Conan eventually got, though just for a short time, was not "Johnny Carson Show". He got the Jay Leno show. Conan got damaged goods. Conan inherited a tired old whore instead of the beautiful young girl. It's a sad loss for Conan, but not THAT sad of a loss. In the end, he didn't walk away from the legacy-laden "Tonight Show" that America loved for generations. He walked away from the battered and bruised "Tonight Show" legacy that Leno reduced it to.
Letterman proved that the person doing the show can be more valuable and image-forming than the show itself. I don't think anyone alive aspires to take over the "Tonight Show" because they are in awe of what Leno did with it.
The "Tonight Show" name started to devalue immediately after Leno took over hosting duties. Who in their right mind would aspire to follow in JAY LENO'S footsteps??
Woe to the guests who appear on Leno's "Tonight Show". Your credibility and position on the artistic role call will be in question. -
"In the press this week, NBC has been calling me every name in the book. In fact, they think I'm such an idiot they now want me to run the network,"
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I'll sleep when I'm dead.
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http://www.thrfeed.com/2010/01/conan-obrien-leaving-nbc.html
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http://tinyurl.com/yb4j6s9
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Jeff Zucker's animosity towards Conan dates back to their days together at Harvard back in the Eighties. This is nothing new.
It's hard to blame Zucker for behaving like a slimy weasel douchebag: he's a show-biz executive and we EXPECT them to behave like slimy weasel douchebags. You can't condemn him for it -- it's the nature of the beast.
Leno, however, should have known better. Leno chose to stab a fellow performer in the back. It will not be forgotten. I hope that there is a growing number of performers and potential guests on Leno's "Tonight Show" who will snub the show from now on.
There are still a few people left in showbiz who have a conscience, integrity, and self-respect. Leno is not one of them, and the ones who do are should do the right thing and decline invitations to appear on his show. -
Really, his "Taking Shots At Interns" joke was just lame. He just can't be funny no matter how hard he tries. The digs this week at Leno/NBC by Letterman and Conan have been fantastic. Even Letterman's simple sarcasm about how Jay would give over the Tonight Show to Conan was funny.
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I am 16 years younger than Leno. Statistically speaking, I will probably outlive him. After he is buried, I will find his grave and urinate on it. It will no doubt cost me a stiff fine. I've already started saving up.
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Jan 16, 2010 3:13:53 PM CST
jawsfan who gives a fuck that Conan wanted it after Carson
by takingscorpioscalls
Do you realize when Carson left it as "a grand legacy" as you put it, Conan was in a closet-room writing on a cartoon show? "OOOOOH Conan dreamed of taking it over Carson!". The janitor cleaning the shitters in their offices had more of a chance hosting after Carson than Conan did then.
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Jawsfan was talking about legacy. No one believes Conan, then in his twenties, would have inherited the show directly from Carson. The point is he wanted to work and earn the spot and carry on the greatness of the Tonight Show. The problem is, by the time he got it, the Tonight Show was no longer great. Learn some reading comprehension.
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will the Smithsonian get his jawbone?
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When Leno dies, one of the Jacksons will offer $1 million for his remains, much like Michael did the elephant man's remains.
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The Carson era Tonight Show is long dead, the Nielson Family should be put to pasture, and the way we consume our media has nearly out-moded the late night format. Conan, I hope, will end up someplace were he can make his mark and continue his legacy, which is not some diluted Tonight Show crap era. Really, what sucks the most is all those staffers that moved out to LA to support Conan, what settlement are they gonna get, huh? I guess it's the breaks of Showbiz but I guarantee that I'll never watch Jay again, not even if he has Christ, Satan, Aliens, or Bin Ladin on...
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maybe this was already posted:
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Starting around 3:05, this is my favourite Jay Leno clip. Just a giant in any industry, really.
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http://deadspin.com/5449864/ex+nbc-sports-employee-dick-ebersol-is-the-biggest-failure-of-them-all
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But don't we know by now, it's never the guy who does the screwing's fault, it's the guy who got screwed fault!
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J-Dizzle: Kimmel statements can be explained away as "substantially true" (the standard) because the implication(s) of what he said do NOT take away from the things he said that were, at the time he said them, reported already. At worst, he repeated what he read/heard reasonably believing them to be true; he said them TO Leno (who was the one who invited Kimmel to be heard by "others"). What's the complaint gonna say? "I invited him on my show and he was a rude bastard!" pffft ... it would get past an OSC hearing. As far as Leno, I believe there's gonna be some backlash. What I find funniest is that he left TTS and his primetime show was pure crap ... yet it was no different from TTS.
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Jan 16, 2010 11:23:36 PM CST
Just wanted to stop back in and say JAY LENO is a SCAB DOUCHEBAG
by margot_tenenbaum
Need to get back to the Team CoCo cocaine party.
I remember back in the 1980s when I first got a taste of coke. That door opened a crack, and I saw a glimpse of what it was like to have something more powerful than you that you have to answer to. I put it down in, like, a week when most people—everybody around me—didn’t. And that's when I had the idea for DIGITAL PERCEPTO.
That Dick Ebersol article the Chief posted is gold. Also check this out from the New York Times: 'NBC’s Slide From TV Heights to Troubled Punch Lines' http://tiny.cc/bVFcl. It has the first quotes from Jeff Zucker, who -- let me make this perfectly clear -- should not burn in Hell, but should lose his job. -
Tell us more about this DIGITAL PERCEPTO.
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...that was really anti-Jay and pro-Dave in The Late Shift when Jay was hiding in the closet? Or was that someone else? (I tend to get these suits confused.)
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I heard even Prime Minister of India hates Leno, and wants him banned there.
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WELL THAT EXPLAINS THE DUDE.
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It was indeed Ebersol who was pro-Letterman. It was basically an East Coast/West Coast thing. Those in New York preferred Letterman, while those in LA liked Leno.
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You make it sound like Conan was writing some saturday morning bullshit. We're talking about the Monorail episode of the Simpsons, dick.
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Jan 17, 2010 9:50:01 AM CST
Yes, Ebersol WAS the one that was pro-Dave. That doesn't
by coughlins laws
mean that after a decade and a half of being Number One in Late Night that he can like Jay now and realize Jay is better than Conan O'Brien...
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Check out his official fan page on Facebook...
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YouTube clip from Late Night: http://tinyurl.com/ycsf9ps
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So because he wrote the monorail episode he should have hosted after Johnny Carson? go fuck yourself shithead.
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http://tinyurl.com/yjjkhu4
If you haven't seen this already, you must. Jay needs to see this most of all. -
http://tinyurl.com/y9z86y3
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http://tinyurl.com/y99xq3m
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That era of the Simpsons is a high-water mark for American comedy, and will be remembered long after anything Carson did pre-Tonight show. The Simpsons seasons Conan was involved in will be remembered as on par with Monty Python and classic era-SNL.
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Conan hosted a 12:30 show for a while that was quite popular.
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This talkback will go away soon, I guess. Keep stickin' it to the Chin, folks!
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You know your doomed!
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You know we will! Big Chin, your going down!
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when he whined about if he didn't get the Tonight Show before he was 50 that he would walk to another network, and so he reaped the wind and is now sowing the whirlwind, and then instead of going out like a man instead is doing a bunch of stupid shit like going on Howard Stern to whine some more.
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Jan 18, 2010 7:35:09 AM CST
'The Late Shift' author Bill Carter is covering this for NYT
by margot_tenenbaum
"O’Brien Deal With NBC Said to Be Imminent" - http://tinyurl.com/yekojgg
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I hope that this means that Liev Schreiber, willl be playing Conan.
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Ah, so you've backed off on the "Conan didn't deserve it", and changed tactics? Excellent.
Greed = ambition, by the way. Getting promoted at work is a good thing. The only reason Conan's show is getting pulled is because Leno had bad ratings at 10 o'clock. -
Everybody Hates Jay, to air in the future.
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So is anyone really shocked that his staff are a bunch of ass kissers?
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Thanks for that. That makes a lot of sense. I knew there was a reason I stuck to IP.
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http://tinyurl.com/ycxpvpg
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Jan 19, 2010 6:58:58 PM CST
Jay's staff and Conan's staff should rise up and murder
by poutineforeveryone
those 2 rich unappreciative cunts
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I can't believe how much of a corporate cunt Brandon Tartikoff was. He deserved to die. All his defenders need to die.
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Poor guy, hopefully his millions helps him to cope.
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If you're a super fan of Conan, or just like him a bit & you use Twitter, follow @InConanWeStand to show your support! I don't know (& kind of doubt) they'll hit a million by Friday, but we can help them try! Thank you.
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