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Joe Johnston Talks CAPTAIN AMERICA, And The New JURASSIC PARK Film(s?)!!
Merrick here...
BoxOffice talked to Joe Johnston about his CAPTAIN AMERICA adaptation:
It's the origin story of Captain America. It's mostly period—there are modern, present-day bookends on it—but it's basically the story of how Steve Rogers becomes Captain America. The great thing about Captain America is he's a super hero without any super powers.
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He's an every man who's been given this amazing gift of transformation into the perfect specimen—the pinnacle of human perfection. How does that affect him? What does that mean for him emotionally and psychologically?
...says Johnson in a longer chat with BoxOffice, the entirety of which can be found HERE.
The site also asked Joe about the status of the new JURASSIC PARK film. We've previously heard there was now a script - and that it seems to be "good" (i.e. "workable") - but this may be the first time we've learned that more than one film is currently being considered. Rather, the first time we've learned that new JP movies might somehow be interconnected (a la the existing three films).
there is going to be a Jurassic Park IV. And it's going to be unlike anything you've seen. It breaks away from the first three—it's essentially the beginning of the second Jurassic Park trilogy. It's going to be done in a completely different way. That's pretty much all I can tell you.
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If you think of the first three as a trilogy, number four would be the beginning of a second trilogy.
Scuttlebutt has the original JP trilogy being issued on Blu-Ray sometime this year (further evidence Universal is fortifying the franchise, as is the current toy line) - but I just found all three films available in a widescreen collector's set HERE
) if you need to catch up with these. 'Tis a good price. Actually gonna order this as a gift for a friend I think...
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He's an every man who's been given this amazing gift of transformation into the perfect specimen—the pinnacle of human perfection. How does that affect him? What does that mean for him emotionally and psychologically?
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If you think of the first three as a trilogy, number four would be the beginning of a second trilogy.
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Right now yes, but who knows?
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its the first time i can say FIRST :-)
Awesome can,t wait for captain america, not so much for jurassic park tho...been there done that -
I hated Jurassic Park III... I could skip any new ones.
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...maybe cuz Im sorta anti-American, but that guy sucks...esp when he beat Thanos...seriously Marvel? Batman any day and every day!
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Worst. Idea. Ever. Unless there is a dinosaur invasion in L.A. and Turok get's involved, I will never spend money to see these pieces of shit.
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...you didnt get first so you suck...but not as much as Cap
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Better luck next time ;)
Also, I remember just such a scenario for Captain America in the early 80's movie. Don't know if I'm interested in yet another 'How the superhero became a superhero' movie, especially since it's already been done with CA.
As for JP, ho-hum, really another?
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...wasnt it rumored that the dinos would have lasers? and this idiotic rumor wasnt even made by JettL...and wtf SMOKIN ACES 2?
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From Captain America 65th Anniversary Special:"The formula enhances all of his metabolic functions and prevents the build-up of fatigue poisons in his muscles, giving him endurance far in excess of an ordinary human being. This accounts for many of his extraordinary feats, including bench pressing 1100 pounds (500 kg) and running a mile (1.6 km) in little more than a minute."That some super-powered shit. Maybe not Superman, or even Spider-Man levels, but some super-powered shit nonetheless.
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Perhaps the worst ending to any movie. The whole NAVY battle group appears out of thin air to rescue 3 people.
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I think it could be a very action packed, fun movie. Punchin out Nazis and the Red Skull. Awesome!
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Nazi's!
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...do fan boys here love Nazis or love watchin Nazis gettin killed? Im confused cuz any time Nazi is mention, people seem excited...
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I loved Captain America as a kid mostly because of those two retarded tv movies.
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in 3D!!! You all know you want it!!
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Who else would you want a just and righteous superhero to beat up on?
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Could be good, but I dunno, he never did anything for me. I hear the new comics are pretty pretty good though.
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...I understand they evil and all, but it seems people are waay to excited bout Nazis...I hate trannys but I dont want them featured in every movie and then rejoice by sayin "tranny!"
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That's who I'd like to see Capt. America beat up on.
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...well, JettL said they would have guns, dunno if he said anythin bout 3D...I heard he is makin a new technology where the images would present themselves within our retinas or somethin...
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...Haiti? too soon?
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I think people only wank off to Rocketeer on nostalgia alone. This guy makes shit movies.
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Jan 14, 2010 10:46:03 AM CST
THE THIRD REICH WAS THE BEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN TO HOLLYWOOD..
by zahaladeen
...BECAUSE ANYONE CAN PUNCH/STAB/MACHINEGUN/HEADBUTT/SET AFLAME A NAZI AND TAPE IT - BECAUSE IT'S A NAZI. YOU'LL NEVER SEE A MOVIE MADE WITH CAPT. AMERICA PUNCHING A CANADIAN MOUNTIE.
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Curious to see what they have planed with JP4
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You can watch Nazis getting the shit kicked outta them and not feel bad/guilty at all. Whereas watching Arab or Korean dudes getting blown up on screen will also attract criticisms of racism. As for JP4 I couldn't be less interested. Unless they made the plot sooooo far out like humanoid dinos with lasers. Actually, seeing the public acceptance of the Na'Vi in Avatar, lizard people could be the way to go.
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before they start touting this movie. I know its a stretch, but John Cena could work. but i personally would not even go near him with this project. they need to be like 6'5" and built like a mother fucker
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That, an actual score (not a rehash of the first two scores) and more exposition (mainly by grant when they all go in the factory) are the only changes i'd make.What'd i'd hope for is a pay off of a line grant had. right after the Spino is first seen his assistant mentions it wasn't on Ingen's list and Grant says, "Makes you wonder what else they were doing here"
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Mosasaurs, Plesiosaurs and other scary-as-hell extinct sea-going reptiles would be boxoffice GOLD. They could be the result of a "side project" even the brass didn't know about on the island. They've escaped their "aquarium" and must be captured/killed before they reach the mainland. Let it be so!
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He can handle a good script when it's a smaller film, but he's not a strong enough personality to bring a singular vision to the screen when opinions are flying in from everyone.
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Jan 14, 2010 10:49:38 AM CST
Though, Didn't Kathleen Kennedy say all JP ideas died when Crich
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During WW2 there was a campaign called "Slap a Jap" in Action Comics. You just can't do that in movies these days, so we whip Nazis.
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god, at least block it or something so you don't go over -_-;
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...I can see Marcus "Jake Sully" Wright playin Cap...or what bout Josh Duhammel...or what bout Justin Timberlake? he can bring in the fans (ie tweens) and do a song and dance durin a USO part of the movie
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Because I wanted to see dinosaurs eat Tea Leone and they didn't. Hell, I always wanted to eat her.
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You are off sir. Some of Johnston's later films may have been lacking, but the Rocketeer is solid fun.Plus, it has Timothy Dalton being all cool and stuff...
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What are you talking about Merrick? There's currently a new JP toy line out there, or did you mean one is coming out soon? I love my old T-Rex and T-Rex jr with the "real feel" skin. I'd love some more.
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Jan 14, 2010 10:55:34 AM CST
Got to do Captain America like Tim Roth in the Hulk Movie.
by cookylamoo
That was the best advertisement for Captain America I've ever seen.
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Been waiting WAY to long for that one. Needs to happen.
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Jan 14, 2010 10:56:17 AM CST
"Chuck"s Ryan McPartlin aka Awesome would make a great Captain A
by thanos0145
As for the superpowers thing, Capt. America doesn't have any. The "super soldier" serum makes his body achieve a peak human condition (body and mind). He's just like Batman but Bruce Wayne developed his body and mind to achieve peak performance. The difference though is the "super soldier" serum allows Steve Rogers body to heal quickly. (That's why he survived being frozen in the Artic ice and stayed virtually young.) The "Incredible Hulk" movie, when Emil Blonsky(Tim Roth) fights the Hulk on the University grounds, that is how Captain America will move.
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Cap movie is period, and JP is being rebooted.
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Jan 14, 2010 10:59:10 AM CST
THe Lost World is the 2nd worst movie of Spielberg's career
by knuckleface
The Lost World is the 2nd worst movie of Spielberg's career: a cataclysmic bomb that would have ended the career of a lesser director. (His worst movie is Crystal Skull) JP3, slight though it may be, was actually an improvement over TLW. The first Jurassic Park is actually quite brilliant, and I doubt we'll ever see another movie quite like it. I love the way that movie spends a significant portion of its time actually debating the science and ethicality of a dino park, and that it actually tried to -gasp- educate the audience.
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That scene with Roth was quintessentailly Captain America. Old school ass-whippin!
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With Mark "like we didn't already know you took steroids" Magwire in the news over his admission, and all the negative public sentiment toward it, does anyone else find it a little strange that Captain AMERICA basically took Super Roids? (By the way, I grew up loving Cap) I say we hire Big Mac to play Cap post-Super Soldier Roids.
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Jan 14, 2010 11:03:51 AM CST
Any word the JP4 script is still about a dino assault team?
by jasonpratt
That sounded like something potentially awesome, also potentially ridiculous, that was too ballsy a franchise move to ever be made. Yet here's JJ talking 'ballsy franchise move'; and the original idea kind of begged for an extended arc. So...
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....I will be in line opening night for a new Jurassic Park. I'm just a sucker for dinosaur movies, and I loved the original trilogy, warts and all. Well, the 2nd one was pretty bad. But I was a huge fan of the fist one and the third one was just fun. I still would like to see more dinosaurs and less people.
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Crystal Skull maybe be bad but is by far not speilbergs worst film. Always, 1941, Hook, The Lost World, and The Terminal are all worse then skull.
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We will be seeing a parallel story line, one taking place around the time of the dinos extinction, and another leading up to the events of the first movie.
The dino times will have Avatar quality effects for the landscape and show the story of one dinos journey to adulthood before the meteor strikes.
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If you consider Lost World and KOTCS to be Spielberg's two worst, you've obviously never seen A.I., War of the Worlds, 1941, or the Terminal. You need to watch more Spielberg before declaring his worst pics all willy-nilly like that.
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...wasnt great like JP, but I enjoyed it...those Benz trucks were cool as hell...but please explain the hate...only part I truly hated was seein the TRex eatin the dog...I dont care who or what dies in a movie, just not dogs!
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Jan 14, 2010 11:09:46 AM CST
Sansara: humanoid dinos with lasers. Actually, pretty close!
by jasonpratt
Last I heard, that was in fact pretty close to the plot of JP4!
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The only Jurassic Park I want on blu ray is the first one. The second one was boring and the third one blew monkey turds. But this being Universal, we'll probably get screwed at first like they did with Bourne and only release them as a box set (though Bourne all 3 were worth it). Hell I'm still waiting for Sony to split up the Spider-Mans on blu so I can buy the second one.
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Disagree with Hook being there. That film is awesome! Rufi-o, Rufi-o, RU-FI-O!!!! A fully realized modern day Neverland and Hoffman hamming it up = fun.That was a fairy tale, not a serious fantasy or period piece. I'll defend Hook til the death. :)Also, War of the Worlds w/ Cruise was...ok. Not suck. (for the first 2/3. the last 1/3 is suck)Agree with Terminal, 1941, AI, and Lost World.And effing Indy IV.
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...youre cool in my book for defendin Hook, dont understand the hate for that...and you said my thoughts exactly for WoW...I was lovin it, had me on the edge of my seats...but when Tim fuckin Robbins show up, the movie became terrible...I like to imagine when theyre in that big field wit the military, the whole world was blown up...PS: if there is an alien attack, go to Boston, they have alien attack immunity
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most of it is fucking brilliant. The end just loses me. I just wanted it to end with him sitting on the bottom of the ocean. But from what I understand the end was Kubrick's idea. The beginning and End was all him. Everything else was The Berg. I understand why he left it in there is in was Stanly's but it really hurts the narrative of the film.
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Why not?
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As long as captain America joins team America at some point in the film
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existed long before the nazis came along.
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...he stood up to Thanos like a bad-ass, but Thanos took him down anyway (he had the Infinity Gems, so he took down literally everyone).
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...err...thanks for the correction...either way, his ass sucks...go Captain Amsterdam!
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they need to start casting that shit!
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whu?
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You need to be terrified of the dinosaurs. Horror sequels fail to scare because audiences start rooting for, and laughing at these characters that are supposed to be terrifying us. Don't do Jurassic Park IV. Find a new way to scare people.
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I will always have a soft spot for Hook. It is not a critically good movie, but it is a lot of fun and, really, it is made for kids. And when you think about it, considering the story, it is amazing that they pulled it off as well as they did.
I love the line when Smee(sp?) says, "I just had an apostrophe."
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....was in the Lost World. The scene where Ian's daughter did the gymnastics thing down the bars and knocked a full-grown raptor out of the shed was just horrible. Yes, there are worst scenes in movie history. But there has never been a worse scene in a movie that had such high expectations/budget/good director.
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... they started putting JP figs back out last year... mostly at TRU stores, check 'em out. I still have the JP command center boxed and unopened myself... XD
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Thinking of a big-screen Red Skull seems kind of lame though.
Won't he just look similiar to "The Mask" except it will be red and scowling?
Still, I'm hoping they take a look-see at either Michael C. Hall (or even his brother from Six Feet Under, Peter Krauss) as Cap.
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The super serum gives CA super powers, duh.
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REALLY lost me at "Jurassic Park"
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Jan 14, 2010 11:31:51 AM CST
one way they could go is jeff goldblums black daughter all grown
by beyondthunderdome2girls1cupbillcosby
as an acrobatic dinosaur hunter played by will smith, it writes itself
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just made him perfect. He's got the physical prowess of a top olympic athlete at the pinnacle of their career. And in all disciplines, (strength, flexibility, reflexes, etc...)
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he is a frickin great villain..Patriot, Potter.. Brotherhood! I could see Ryan McPartlin as Cap, met him and super nice guy so I'd root for him lol.
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...because "McCarthyism in Spandex" doesn't have quite the same ring.
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It's one good movie with two piece of s*** sequels that have nothing to do with the first movie except that they have dinosaurs in them. JP 2 and 3 have as much in common with JURASSIC PARK as any bad SyFy Channel movie with dinosaurs in it.
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Jan 14, 2010 11:34:38 AM CST
i have no problem with new cgi dinosaurs (in 3d)
by beyondthunderdome2girls1cupbillcosby
attacking whatever as long as they don't bore it up too much with human emotions and at least make it somewhat adult friendly, and by adult I mean specist, racist, womanizing, gore loving manchild adults
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They totally neutured T-Rex, and completely overused the Raptors, them becoming a joke by JPIII. Besides, after Jackson's Skull Island, Jurassic Park kinda looks like Disney Land
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he needs to look like he can command the avengers, this guy needs to be more imposive looking than iron man and hulk
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He got more superpowers than Batman.
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"If you think of the first three as a trilogy, number four would be the beginning of a second trilogy."Wow, thanks, professor.
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He super strong and durable. Regular Cap technically doesn't, but they sure treat him like he does.
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Everything was phoned in on part 2. Sadly, I read the book before seeing the film and it really wasn't much better. Horrid dialogue, worse acting, not much to like there. JP III was a step up in quality, just a quick popcorn flick that knew what it was. Should it have been more? Probably. But it was pretty good as is.
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...I imagine esp durin those times, Cap was a racist...or at least a lil apprehensive when around negroes and japs...is he a hero we should root for in a postObama world? and I imagine Fox News LOVE Cap, meanin WE ALL should HATE him...just sayin
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A team of scientists invents a time machine, which unwittingly sends them back to the Cretaceous era! Armed with only with their knowledge and a handful of tools, the team of scientists (headed by science wiz Shia LaBouf as "Jack Greenwell"), the scientists soon learn that everything they thought they knew about dinosaurs based on the clones was WRONG! Highlights include an army of T-Rex, a Raptor civilization, and a mysterious cloaked figure known only as "The Troodon" who helps our human heroes from the shadows, because his people need the human's help to defeat the Raptor Empire.
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I read somewere ways back when it looked like they were not doing anotherone,that since Michael Crichton died they should leave it be. some studio person said it, I can`t remember who? But i did think it was odd since they raped the novel. They really didn`t follow it much. I would have loved to see Richard Attenboroughs character`s torn apart by little dino`s,and the Ian Malcom charecter also gets killed in the novel.That could have made Lost World much better:)
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Spino = owned.
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which are timeless. No racism or an ism here from Cap.
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yeah he died in the book but then because the 2nd book had to tie in with the release of the 2nd movie, they had some lame excuse about him actually being found alive in the coffin. (before it was buried of course). but its funny because The Lost World book only has 2 things in common with the movie. its the same basic story of Ian going to the 2nd island and saving his girl and that sequence with the two T-Rexs attacking the truck/bus thing. but otherwise its a completely different thing, different events and even different characters. the whole "going to america" ending never happens, it stays on-island the whole time. but anyway i'm all for new movies, i like all 3 so bring it on.
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Since I read the book, what I saw on the screen was AT BEST JP lite.
I can watch it now with fondness as its own entity, but I was REALLY let down by the translation.
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Both of these projects sound good actually. A full on reboot of Jurassic Park is best I think,
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Shouldn't they be starting production soon?
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Just 1 great movie, followed by 2 shitty sequels.
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but this guy is the bottom of the barrel. They should've got Doug Liman.
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Of the "known" actors; McPartlin is the closest to Steve Rogers. Armand Hammer or Jason Lewis would also be great--Brad Pitt or Mark Valley would have been even better about 15years ago. Hopefully marvel will come to realize that they don't need a name in this role and that it would only detract from the audience's immersion in the story if we got Matt Damon or somebody jumping around in a halloween costume.
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My guess is they set up a theme park -in- the Jurassic period via time travel. Things go haywire, humans get eaten. Queue trilogy. Good news about Captain America, glad they are going mostly WWII.
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I love Cpt America probably more than any other hero, and I think its because the character is symbolic for our greatest potential as a species. He is the ideal representation of what humanity can achieve. There is a certain nobility to the guy that is inspiring. And I know some criticize the character for being too political or self righteous, but to me Cap transcends all of that.
To answer the other comments about the super powers, I had always seen that as meaning he doesn't shoot lasers from his eyes, he doesn't power up when he gets angry, he doesn't fly, or anything close to what could be considered classic super powers. Even the X men are mutations. At the core he's just got raw human material to work with, which have been enhanced to the nth degree, and he was not bestowed with anything extraordinary. All of his abilities are within us all, he only was able to unlock them. -
The Mark McGwire of Superheroes™
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Can he punch the Shah of Iran?
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His body does not produce the fatigue toxins that normal humans do. He can run faster than any athlete in history. He can lift more weight than any athlete in history. He heals faster than any human. His body was able to enter and withstand frozen suspended animation for decades. His body re-generates the super serum formula as well. Cap may be the ultimate physical expression of the Human being, but even so, some of those abilities are far, far beyond just being called a top flight Olympic athlete. The serum was called: Super Soldier, not: Olympic athlete.
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Also Johnston did Hidalgo which is a great flick and was filmed more like a classic action movie. No crazy zooming/panning, no shaky cam. I just hope they give Cap a gun cause it seems really silly to go up against Nazis in WW2 with just a shield.
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One of the greatest, and most morally outstanding creations in the history of comics. There in no one in the Marvel U that can approach his character and ethics. Perhaps only Superman is his equal in that department in the DC U.
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That's all I ask of a JP sequel. I don't think a single dinosaur was shot in the 3 movies. Even when a T-Rex was walking around downtown San Fransisco. Nobody shoots the fucking thing, so retarded.
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OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK SQUEEEEEEEEEEELLLL!!!!!!
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why aren't there any cool superheroes? Iron Man is silly, Captain America's retarded, the Hulk is a joke, Green Lantern isn't even worth mentioning, Superman is an obsolete anachronism, Batman's just a dude in a rubber suit, .... what the hell am I forgetting!? Or is it just because it was all meant to be animated/drawn?
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EVERYBODY WALK THAT DINOSAUR
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...if you dont think Batman is one of the coolest characters EVER to be created...then shame on you
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Especially coming from melting pots such as NYC - were you met, went to school with, and worked alongside people of all races and creeds. That in itself does not insure a non-racist attitude, but it does help to break down the barrier of ignorance and intolerance that forms in an absence of mutual interaction between peoples of separate races and creeds.
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...but after all these years, kinda moved on... and with this guy holding the reigns? Nope. Unless this new "trilogy" is actually his JP4, and then 5 and 6 are the endless reshoots to get 4 right... [cheap shot, I know, but fuck it...]
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Jan 14, 2010 12:35:06 PM CST
I'm just keeping the Cap flame burning until Conti shows up
by toadkillerdog
He is the real Cap aficionado and authority.
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...that may be true...but I picture ol Steve Rogers lynchin people...and I imagine if he never got the SS serum, he would be carryin a rifle to a Obama speech
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I guess the best idea would be to start the new flicks with the mainland "Jurassic Park" theme park a reality, and have the dinos go apeshit once again. It's Die Hard in a CGI zoo! In 3D!
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nuff said.
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Just a tad too old to be carrying a rifle to a speech dontcha think?
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Did not bother me in the least that she wore skimpy tight fitting , bodice busting outfits and screamed so that her chest heaved up and down. Nope. Did not bother me - or Steve, in the least bit!
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Let the new Jurassic movies take place in towns and cities in the US and other countries. Seeing Raptors chasing people through subways and office buildings and city streets, Bronti and stegasaurus trundling down Broadwat or Sunset Blvd. looking for vegetation, those little flesh eating buggers going bat shit in a movie theater or Disneyland...ahh...the dreams of the 12 year old boy I used to be fullfilled at last.
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It'll be a love story. An elderly vampire/dino will fall in love with his adopted asian vampire/dino daughter. He does all sorts of really cute things and then she finally realizes that age/incest isn't a barrier if you are truly meant for each other. At the end there's a big car chase and some plostions.
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Im a fat, single, unemployed, 23 year old man. My life is pointless. I dont do anything. Im no good to anybody. But I think Jurassic Park 4 would make things better.
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Cap America will be a hard sell to the public IMHO. I doubt it will be all that great and make Iron Man type money. Lose the helmet wings at least.
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...are boring as hell. Fuck running from a dinosaur through the jungle...again. Let's see a pteradactyl scoop a tourist off the Empire State Bldg observation deck, hell a PACK of them cleaning the deck off, an aquatic dino pick off a bungee jumper, the fun it limitless! First movie of the new trilogy: Dinosaurs gain a foothold in a city, 2 and 3 would be the Dino Wars with mankind fighting for dominance over them, the developement of new wpons, the domestication of certain species as pack animals and mount. What could possibly be more wicked than seeing a T-Rex with a rider, and missle launchers strapped to it's back? Aliens, maybe...yeah...ALIENS!!!
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...stop analyzing every effin thing about every fuckin movie and just accept some of 'em as pure fun. I don't care what any of you say, TO ME, those movies were just fun, popcorn, drive-in theatre fun movies that should have transported you back to a time when those things DID mean something to you, instead of being a boring fuckin' adult who has to ruin everything.... man, SOME movies are just MEANT to be magic, fuckin enjoy 'em for what they are and et the fuck over yourselves............ CHRIST.
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.. grownup and destroy everything. Man, just forget for awhile that the entire world is effed up, that a shit ton of people are out of work, that your probably gonna have to work until you're 75, and that you don't have adequate insurance, and that the USA hasn't got any kind of a manufacturing base and damn near can't support the workers anymore and that utter chaos is just a thin line away from happening. and JUST ENJOY SOME MOVIES !!! It's called escapism, and it is a great thing we all have. Quit fuckin it all up.
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Which director will tackle that first? You know Speilberg is already itching for it with The Pacific, since it has the kid from the first JP and a character named Dr. Grant. But with Johnston thinking about Captain American and Jurassic Park at the same time, well hell, it's gonna happen.
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So long as it's original and isn't that stupid raptors-with-lasers-strapped-on-their-backs idea.
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that's already the plot of Bradbury's Sound of Thunder. And I hope you didn't have to suffer through THAT movie like I did. -Shivers-
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...this is the first proof that JettL works in Hollywood... cuz who else would have came up wit that idea?
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WHY NOT!?
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for Captain America? I hate even my own ideas. (Garrett Hedlund? Maybe?)
No to Worthington, no to Renner (he's cool, but not for Cap), no to Damon, DiCaprio, Pitt, Valley, Walker, Twilight kids, Jason Lewis, McConaughey...I kinda like McPartlin and Armie Hammer, but don't know if they have the gravitas to pull it off. -
Jan 14, 2010 2:05:24 PM CST
I liked Simon baker, but think he's too old
by rene_belloq_12inch_figure
and too australian.
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Jan 14, 2010 2:06:33 PM CST
But I would love to see him interact with RDJ
by rene_belloq_12inch_figure
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It is to be set in the sea. The plot is that Hammond has created a Jurassic Sea Park, and invites various experts to inspect it, resulting in Dino mayhem. Could be awesome. As for jp1, I read the book before I saw the movie, and the movie was a let down for me. The book is Jaws on land. The movie is ET with dinos. This is where Speil lost it. The only thing that gives me hope for this director is the scene in Munich where they shoot the naked woman. That scene has balls. Speil, make a thriller. Forget the effects shit and show your suspense chops. For God's sake, you can do better than Tin Tin!
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For different reasons. Not sure why everyone thinks movies should be exactly the same as their books. The movie was great in its own right... it brought dinosaurs to life and was a wonderful popcorn flick with a brain.
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The artistry is gone in CGI. Hence my screen-name. But I like the potential behind a new trilogy. That way they can break away from the confines of continuity and just tell a good adventure story. There's alot of potential there.
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theres no doubt, it'll all be handheld, running away from dinosaurs cloverfield style.
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america ...fuck yeah.....
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From the Future!
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Jan 14, 2010 2:33:53 PM CST
"If you think of the first three as a trilogy, number four would
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Joe Johnston. Math genius.
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and his wife on Chuck could be a good Wonder Woman. And yeah, what part of Super Soldier Serum does Johnston not get. Captain America absolutely has super-powers, just not identifiable ones - he's an enhanced human. I also agree that the Roth fighting scene from the Hulk was a great example of what could happen. Can you imagine replacing Roth with Cap in full uniform for that scene? Cap vs. Hulk? Awesome. (see what I did there?)
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Guess you missed out on a little movie called AVATAR?
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has to be the absorbing man. just look at the guy:)
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...cosmic, drug-addled, 1970's Starlin-esque superhero movie. Or even a 90's Grant Morrison version of the same. But that's never going to happen, of course
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...and drop the suggestion. (Although I'd be really surprised if this role hasn't already been (mis)cast, though.)
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The second one actually has some great set pieces (the caravan over the cliff is up there with the first film), but everything about the third was just bargain basement dtv awful. I can't understand how anyone could rate it.
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=Flames on Optimus, Nipples on Batsuit, Mechanical webshooters and Greedo shooting first=Bad decisions.
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"Lose the helmet wings?"
Lose-the-helmet-wings.
Go fuck yourself.
No, really.
Someone really wants to lose the helmet wings?
Yeah, i guess SO, since they lost them in the Ultimates.
I guess everything has to have a REASON and make SENSE for todays spoiled assholes.
Hey, how about this: The reasons for the wings was...because JACK KIRBY drew them.
Namor has wings on his fucking FEET.
THOR has them on his HELMET.
SO DOES CAPTAIN AMERICA
WHY did Kirby add them?
Maybe Jack Kirby had a WINGS fetish?
Not unlikely, according to my research.
check this out:
http://tinyurl.com/yaeu9k2
Or, maybe it was his little signature thing?
Or MAYBE, he thought they looked COOL.
I dont really know and guess what?
I dont fucking CARE.
As long as the wings stay.
Anyone wanting a movie reason?
Joe Johnston looks to be doing a good job with honoring the original WOLFMAN design.
Before THAT he did a really good job with transferring THE ROCKETEER into a cool movie.
And LAST but not least...
Before THAT, the man designed X-WINGS and motherfucking BOBA FETT.
Im sure JOE will think up a REASON for all the nerds.
Qurious as HELL who gets the role as Cap though.
I want a really kick-ass Cap movie. With a RED SKULL that is menacing as hell.
Especially since they wimped out with Dr. Doom so badly.
SEQUELS to Cap is not neccesary.
Except for a really good AVENGERS movie(s)!
directed by KATHRYN BIGELOW.
Make it happen Marvel.
Oh, and AC/DC "Thunderstruck for the THOR trailer please.
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...again?!!? Will he turn into a giant blob of... something... at the end of his final fight with Thor? Whoever thought Kenneth Branaugh would start stealing Ang Lee's disastrous ideas? Hello, Kenny Boy... Thor has Hela, Storm Giants, LOKI, fer chrissakes, and you go with the lame-ass fuckin' Absorbing Man?
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If they don't go with that original draft where the dinos carried guns then I'm out. They should go uberschlock stupid with it, Friday the 13th style, after 3 lowered the bar.
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Starts with the pterodons from the end of JP3 reaching land and wreaking havoc (awesome opening scene), US military has knee jerk reaction to the attack (nice political allegory) and sends in the marines to Isla Nublar and Isla Sorna. Shit goes wrong, dinos munch on Bill Paxton and islands get nuked at the end.
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Just paint him red and cut off his nose!
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Simply put, it was lean and mean. Kinda sleazy,and B-movie-ish - AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT A DINOSAUR MOVIE SHOULD BE! The first one was bloated and too much of the AWE over seeing the dinosaurs for the first time - Ok I get it, can we get to the havoc? I will say the movie was BETTER than the book. The book started out promising, but devolved into a boring cat and mouse chase. I think those chases are better played out on screen. JP 2 was mash up of JP1 and JP3 and confusing stuff, therefore failed. I will say the T-Rex in the city (Rex in the city - Ha!) was some of the absolute BEST CGI I have ever seen put on film! I don't care about the silly stuff with the raptors in JP3, cause they go right along with crazy dinosaurs roaming the earth! Just much tighter editing in the 3rd installment of "the trilogy."
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Skurge, the Executioner not Absorbing man
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..."rest of the world" tune,
if this film is entertaining and doesn't blatantly condescend to the rest of the world than, yes, it'll do just fine. Foreign nations are familiar with, and in some cases very much enamored with our comic heroes and are fully capable of making a distinction between an action film and the crappy foreign policies of the past few years. Brits might not dig it though--their just too uptight. -
1. Gymnastic girl kicking raptor (lost world) 2. rave (matrix reloaded) 3. emo peter dancing (spiderman 3)
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Wtf does he have to do with Jurassic Park?
That being said, i've only seen part 1.
Bill Paxton? Im confused.
And to help derail this tb even more, i'll see your "BP in JP4" and raise you:
Bill Paxton pinball:
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Superman spinning world backwards. Indy fridge.
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'cause i'm sooo sick of seeing Wolverine steal all the spotlight.
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thanks MattmanReturns.
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LOL dude, seriously. How badly do you want your opinion heard to use double spacing? Get over yourself dude. Im not the biggest comic book nerd out there, I live in the real world even though I do like my Spidey and Bats and there is no way the wings would work for the general public. Just accept it now because there is no way the studio is going to think that the wings are ok. You will likely never get to see Caps wings, Wonder Womans american flag granny panties, or Robins leotard in a movie so just accept it.
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And they "hatch" a new plot involving dinosaurs trying to eat people. Am I right?
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Hmm. That didnt bug me. All the other ones did. And thank you Mattman for pointing the Superman world spinning thing.
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And Im glad cause they are stupid. Yeah. They are.
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"No way" you say? Well, i agree that the general public(mostly jackasses that can swallow any shit) would probably SHIT themself if cap had his wings.
HOWEVER, that does not mean they have to comply to those fucks in THAT WAY(by removing them). Take that shit -into the plot- if you have to then. Come up with some bullshit explanation for them.! Hell i bet anyone, with any sense, could come up with a REASONABLE explanation.
Amateurs.
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"Where the hell is Levine!"
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Probably one of the few times I've yelled at the screen.
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Well, funnily enough. Im not "the biggest comic book nerd" EITHER.
I stopped reading comics, way back in the 90's, when they introduced VENOM and CARNAGE.
Im sorry for anyone who grew up with those characters and dig them. But they really put me off.
After that comics seemed to go downhill, with just...Bullshit characters introduced.
Once again. Just my OPINION.
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I don't get it when people say Venom is a great character, and I really don't get it when they say that about Carnage. Carnage was the most obvious "derp derp more is always better" marketing robot decision that I'd seen at Marvel comics to that point.
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as Dr Octopus is to Dr Hexadecimopus.
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I would love to see a great Cap movie too, dont get me wrong, but cmon man. Seriously. The head wings were always corny and are only now acceptable because of the characters lasting iconography. If they had never done the wings and someone tried creating a character like that today EVERYONE would be like WTF. You know it. I know you have some nostalgic affection for the wings, but dude, seriously. The wings are, and have always been, stupid. Cap as a character is great, but fuck the wings.
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'I want more dinosaurs, FUCKER'.
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FYI, I would pay cash money to watch Captain America beat up a Canadian Mountie.
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Okay, okay, okay...slow down here: Are we forgetting the Bat-Credit Card from BATMAN & ROBIN? Or an Autobot pissing on John Turturro in TRANSFORMERS? Or essentially any scene from YEAR ONE?
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prefix really has to go though. It serves zero purpose. Anyone whose going to see The Avengers already knows he's the first Avenger.
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but with Dinosaurs running around instead of robots.
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Well, correct me if im wrong.(Since im not American) But aren't the wings on CAP's head supposed to represent the wings of the bald headed eagle?
Guess who ELSE used an eagle as their propaganda.
NAZI GERMANY.
Google "Reichsadler".
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At first i fucking hated that. But seriously. It helps sell the character to general audiences that are too chiq or whatever to go and see a movie called "CAPTAIN AMERICA".
Not a dealbreaker.
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One of the only good things about that sequel. Loved it. As Vinnie Price said in "Masque of the Red Death": "show us the lives and the loves of the animals!" PAR-TAY!
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I thought Jon Hamm was playing Captain America. That's what I heard.
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A game warden from Kenya or Botswania notices animals are apparently being captured and taken from the game preserves. He investigates and ends up being captured by the bad guys himself. He's taken to a remote island, where the Big Boss has set up gladiator rings. He's also capturing dinosaurs from one or both of the JP islands. He's pitting dinosaurs, modern day animals and captured humans against each other, while decadent rich people watch and bet on the outcome. The game warden escapes and organizes a gladiator revolt. The animals all get loose and the climax is chaos on the island with inter-species fights galore. The decadent rich all get eaten. The game warden and surviving escapees get away on a captured boat. The whole movie doesn't pretend to be anything more than a "B movie" with lots and lots of well-choreographed inter-species fight scenes. http://comicsradio.blogspot.com
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Just adding my voice to the millions of fanboys who had strokes while reading this piece.
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This info was viewd by my own eyes at universal studios production offices in december, by my own eyes, so you know it's trueJP4 is set 70 years after the events of JP 3, sometime in between there the dinos multiplied and spead all over the world, about 15, 000 people managed to escape to a base on mars. now after years of training and learning the dinosaurs weakness a rough and tumble group of 7 soldiers return to earth to destroy the dino's once and for all. only when they return to earth they find not all is as they belived and they discover a shocking truth that will lead them to question their very existenceSome other tibbits include: The studio would like to use sam neil in the role of Alan Grants great grandson, Micheal Grant who is the team leader several new dino scultps will be used, as well as some ones created just for this film based on evolution over 70 years
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Yeah, that's right, I hate America.
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should be the Red Skull
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I bet you'll dig Red skull then! This will be a win-win movie for everyone!
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Sounds like they're in the middle of auditions right now, and that they're at least humoring the idea of casting complete unknowns. Also, no one has to tell Captain Awesome, because McPartlin already knows and wants the part.
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I just threw up inside my mouth for typing that.
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If they want someone on a Downey level of fame. In regards to the GeneralPublicTM. Yes, yes. They are too old. I know. This could be pulled of though, by doing some seriously good benjamin button style fx. Make a YOUNGER version of Damon or Pitt pre-serum and have it so that they change into their usual self.
(although whoever is Cap has to still hit the gym of course)
That guy from Twilight wanted a shot, he looks...well he's got most of the look id say. And he's younger. And has SOME built in fame with that Twilight crap.(Im sorry, im too old for it)
I'd say if they wanted someone famous, those are the best ones so far.
I would prefer a complete unknown. To the general public and myself.
Like Bill Campbell in the Rocketeer. Although he had done stuff before, like Crime Story,
he wasn't exactly a household name.
However, look at the guy who played Superman...
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How about him for the Steve Rogers Role?
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When they announce Will Smith as Captain America LOL!!!
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Was in talks to play HAWKEYE. And i like Will Smith. But as Cap? No. You know why? Marvel would shoot themself in the foot.
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Seems like Universal is stamping this franchise like a mcdonalds hamburger. I think having Joe Johnston be incharge of the series after he totally reeked monkey balls in Jurassic Park III is a terrible idea. I think if he has anything to do with it and not Steven Spielberg than I'm not interested about Universals wannabe Star Wars trilogy prequels.
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must be Bucky, then? That character was pretty gay, though. Too bad Logan can't cameo. The wolverine origins WW2 story was kind of cool. Maybe JettL93 can work a deal with Fox to loan him back to Marvel Studios. That shouldn't be a problem, since he's attached to every major project in Hollywood.
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“It’s not going to be a Captain America that you expect. It’s something different. It is influenced by the comic book, but it goes off in a completely different direction.”
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so he will have to be 20-30 range. So unfortunately, no Hamm. He'd be great for a mature Superman,if another one ever gets made. I don't know if anyone ever mentioned him, but what about Ryan Kwanten, better known as Jason Stackhouse on True Blood? Dude looks the part, can do both drama and comedy, and is pretty badass.
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Especially if they do go that Benjamin Button CGI route, and considering Johnston referred to Cap as "kid" they'd pretty much have to. Plus I think they're one step higher than Downey Jr fame wise, and I think they'll go with someone one step lower, like an up-and-comer.
Renner is a good example of the kind of guy they should get--but to me, he's just a little too old, short, and goofy-looking to be the right guy. But I wouldn't whine if he got it.
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Just the current Chris Pine. I can see it.
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That way RDJ won't be such a dominating presence on the Team.
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won't have the buccaneer/musketeer boots, because Marvel keeps trying to retcon that. My made up reasoning for them, other than the just plain Kirby/Simon coolness factor, was Cap was supposed to be an inspiration, bigger-than-life if you will, he'd have a clothing designer to make him appear heroic like the movie characters of the day, such as the pirates played by Douglas Fairbanks.
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Support it. That would be pretty cool.Though the wanker would be in the lead of TWO freakin' major properties, which is too much for anybody. (see Christian Bale)
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Hmm. Not a bad choice. Look age OR famewise. Still havent seen the NewTrekTM though. How's his performance?
And once again: Renner seemed to have debunked anything to do with Cap. Marvel wanted him to play Hawkeye.
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This guy has a fundamental misunderstanding of the character.
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It's the stupid one where the dinos get mutated and intelligent and become a sort of Power Rangers fighting force. /facepalm.
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TOTAL CASH COW.
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Since they're doing it to everything else. Don't get me wrong, the original was a once in a lifetime kind of movie, but like others have said, and is so often the case, the book is so much better.
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Johnston is going on outdated info from around 2003, which is probably the last time he was involved with the project. He's obviously referring to the Monahan/Sayles Dino-Mercenaries script, which was obsolete even before it was reviewed here in August of 2004. Unfortunately, JP is as dead as Stan Winston and Michael Crichton, as Marshall and Kennedy have told us repeatedly; I think they're liable to know more than Johnston. And just for the record, JP and TLW were AWESOME, and JP3 was UTTER ASS!
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Pine also has the jack ryan reboot on his upcoming franchise list, the cap would make his third franchise lead. but he's not getting it, josh lucas has the role singed seasled and delivered
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...will be Captain America. And the lead in JP4. You know it to be true.
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Can you tell us who's on the short list for female lead? (I liked Dern in the original, and the little white girl reminded me of the little black girl on Fresh Prince, who I always liked.).
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Hollywood loves Sam Worthington for some reason.
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You know, the guy from the new Fox series? Blond hair, blue eyes, he has that superhero jaw and everything. He would be dead on perfect. Plus he's mostly unrecognized by hollywood, so a fresh face as Cap would be welcome.
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That's the guy. Totally perfect for Cap. Look him up on imdb and tell me he wouldn't perfect. He shows quite a bit of charisma also from what I see on the commercials.
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Anyone who thinks it's better than The Lost World is fucking insane (and Lost World was pretty weak).
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Jan 14, 2010 10:05:47 PM CST
Eating vending machine food that's been ROTTING IN A JUNGLE...
by nasty in the pasty
...for five years. Trying to put money in said vending machines in a building with NO ELECTRICITY. A fucking BARNEY REFERENCE in 2001. Fucking ***TEA LEONI***.Jurassic Park 3 was fucking HIDEOUS. At least Lost World had some good setpieces along the way (trailer dangling off the cliff, the raptors closing in one the hunters in the tall grass).
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Jan 14, 2010 10:16:15 PM CST
Jettl93: This info was viewd by my own eyes, so you know it's tr
by outlawsdelejos
...I heard a loud crack behind my left eye when I read that, I think I had a bullshit overload that caused an aneurysm.
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He takes a couple minutes out of his busy schedule to update us on what goes on behind the scenes. He doesn't even have time to spell simple words correctly, (For example: sealed, viewed and tidbits). If posters keep making fun of him, he might not give us such valuable scoops like Jurassic Park 4 will essentially be Terminator: Salvation, but with dinosaurs.
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but then, i like godzilla movies, so there you go.
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He's as strong as three men — at least that's what I remember from a comic that Stan Lee wrote.
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Wings: If they are not HUGE they could be done just fine, and they are not Nazi wings they are the Wings of Liberty. May they never lose a feather.(Thank you Jack Burton)The Boots: Once again just don't make them crazy. I'm sure they probably made more sense for like trench warfare or some shit(even though I don't recall EVER seeing Cap with the boots pulled all the way up).What i do remember looking cool though was the commercial for Universal studios when they had the Marvel attractions and Cap comes riding in on an ATV in the classic costume and it looked awesome. It can be done.The most important part is the shield. To be more exact..How the shield is used. Cap did amazing shit with the shield. In fact...the shield is THE STAR (no pun intended) of the movie. If the shield doesn't bounce of ten Nazi heads and return to Cap then this movie is a total failure.Yeah...I'm excited about the movie. How could you tell?
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I'm excited about Captain America, jingoism notwithstanding.
I think Joe Johnston is an inspired choice, plus he does period well (The Rocketeer, October Sky.) He gets it. Plus he was art director on Star Wars and Indy films! That alone puts CA on my watch list. -
The transformation in to the super-soldier doesn't hold any interest for me personally. What is a lot more interesting, and still relevant today, is what the character faced emotionally after being revived and working with the Avengers.As he moved through the 60s and into the 70s, he dealt with issues of relevance--is he still relevant in a more complex world, where the ideals of America are now muddled with moral ambiguity, and the country no longer the symbol of freedom it once was?The Cap of those late-60s/early-70s dealt a lot with the concepts of freedom, discrimination, hate-mongering, heck, even hateful right-wing TV hosts and paranoid gated communities--way ahead of its time.Now *that's* interesting, and relevant. Who cares about the origin? Show that in flashbacks in a present-day film.The fight scenes in this film will also have to be magnificent--Cap has to be an unbelievable athlete, while still avoiding the same stupid, trendy martial arts styles we see in just about every movie today.
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that would be a dream come true
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Indeed there is! I recently spotted some brand spankin' new JP toys at Toys R Us last week, mistakenly believeing they were leftovers from decades past. Alas, they are brand new as of 2010, yet have the same look and feel of the 1993 issues!
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Jan 15, 2010 2:16:30 AM CST
anyway my biggest problem with Jurassic Park 3 was...
by the_crimson_king
the bland and bullshit plot (ooooh they go to the island to rescue some kid, they get chased by dinosaurs and then the navy rescues them, the end) that did nothing to further the story, it felt like a side story, The Lost World may not have been nowhere near as good as JP1, but it did have some great action sequences and an actual plot that furthered the story
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Jan 15, 2010 2:18:30 AM CST
the only good thing about JP3 was having Sam Niell back
by the_crimson_king
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The story goes that a group of Neo-Nazi's are trying to bring back dinosaurs to help them terroise the world and bring in a fourth reich.
In the process they also create a dozen or so Raptor-Human hybrids. They use the DNA of a dozen of their best new SS officers and (stay with me), these SS officers through special technology are able to control the Raptor-Human hybrids (I know very original).
Cap also learns that after WW2 remaments of the Nazi's at the time put a plan in place which was using the begginings of this technology and creat human-dinosaur hybrids, more human than lizard, but there was no technology for connectivity so brains from former Nazi leaders were put into these new bodies. The original human-dinosaur hybrids then infiltrated political positions and other influential positions.
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have it be set maybe 20 years into the future where genetic engineering and cloning have become common place, because of this a new company builds a new Jurassic Park and this time it actually opens to huge success, but for whatever reason the shit hits the fan and the dinosaurs get loose among hundreds of tourists, lots of dino related action ensues and have it rated R
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Jan 15, 2010 2:24:13 AM CST
oh and there could even be a laboratory under the ground
by the_crimson_king
filled with all sorts of illegal genetic experiments like human cloning
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Continue what GI Joe started?
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I haven't seen Jurassic Park since 2004, I haven't seen The Lost World since probably the late 90's or so and I haven't JP3 since 2001, I didn't like JP3, but I'd watch it anyway just for the hell of it
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is I must have watched Jurassic Park literally hundreds of times on VHS as a kid so that even though it's been years since I watched I still know that movie like the back of my hand
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my parents took me to see it in 1993 when I was 3 years old and although I only vaguely remember it I remember it well enough to know that it happened, I remember that the whole audience laughed during the scene when Grant pretends to be electrocuted, it was notthe first movie I saw though, it was not the first movie I saw, my mom told me once that she took me to see Batman Returns the previous year, but I don't remember it
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in my opinion it was a great time for movies, you had movies like Jacobs Ladder, Candyman, Reservoir Dogs, Batman Returns, Silence of The Lambs, Hook, Pulp Fiction, Forrest Gump, The Shawshank Redemption etc
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First movie I saw was '89 Batman. JP, Batman returns. I have the cool McDonalds toys and glasses still, quality shit.
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..Like Albert Pyun's Craptain America.Oh, and then there's Roger Corman's Fantastic Four...so bad, it was placed on hold indefinately.
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Narnia movie wrote the new Cap script. Doesn't bode well...
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I guess having a Jewish Red Skull would be quite ironic. Sure, hell. Why not?
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Ahem.
I never said the wings were -nazi wings-. I merely pointed out the fact that both America and Germany had the eagle as their mascot.
Case in point:
http://tinyurl.com/57n9op
And THAT is why, IMHO, the WINGS should stay in the flick.
Since it helps drive home the point that symbols can be used for both good AND evil. Still not a good enough reason?
Well, how about:
"A nazi archeological dig, lead by brilliant but evil scientist/officer JOHANN SCHMIDT has recovered bone fragments or blood that is (according to legend)said to have come from the GODS THEMSELVES, during some epic fight/whatever that happened long ago.(Maybe with a quick cameo from HOPKINS as ODEN on one of his many visits to earth, fighting a wolf or something during a flashback)
"The nazis get cracking on analyzing the bone fragments/blood using all their top scientists and
they crack the genetic code."
(Yes, yes. I know dna research was in it's infancy...But the nazis had advanced tech and...It's a comic book movie, work with me here.
Besides, according to Vikipedia DNA was first isolated in 1869. So there.)
Anyways: "the nazis gets use the findings to continue their work on PROJEKT WIEDERGEBURT, their version of a SIMILAR project going on in the states."
Which the nazis have blatantly stolen of course, hence the german name for REBIRTH, also it nicely sets up the nazi spy planted in America that later kills Abraham Erskine.(played by Harvey Keitel)
"The nazi formula however is a horrible failure and instead DISFIGURES Schmidt and creates DIE ROTER SCHÄDEL or better known to the yanks, THE RED SKULL."
(Not that silly mask marvel. Please)
p>"However, said formula is intercepted by OSS and brought to America where the government and Erskine get to work on PROJECT REBIRTH once again, it works and Tadaa, CAP is born."
"America then sends Steve out on a mission to stop Schmidt/Red skull once and for all."
There... And THAT's why Captain America has wings on his head.
Basically as a little tribute to THOR.
Not only that, my explanation also covered:
Why the serum worked on Steve Rogers. (he was deemed worthy by the old gods)
It ties together CAPTAIN AMERICA with THOR, in essence making Cap and Thor Blood brothers.
It makes for a better origin for Red skull.
(a bellhop? Really Marvel, that's the best you could come up with?)
It allows for a possible cameo from Hopkins as ODEN
I also, threw in a stunt casting for Erskine. Which i can't take credit for, i read that one on Superherohype.
Personally, i like the bird explanation better, less mucking with the origin, but hey...
I dunno, maybe they should lose the wings altogether.
Note to MARVEl, if you're reading: Feel free to pilfer any ideas, if any. No credit needed.
Please, once again: Put AC/DC "Thunderstruck" in the THOR Trailer though.
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Captain America the movie, dear god this is a truly awful, repugnant, turd of an idea. Abandon this project now to save the world such nationalistic toss. Another superhero movie, yawn. One with the hero wearing an American flag, uggg. The comic was bad enough, leave it alone.
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Just skimmed through the Tb again and read your message. Glad someone agrees with me on V & C but even though i dug Bill Bixby as Banner i named myself after the guy from Robocop. You know..:
"I'll buy that for a dollar!!!"
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The 'plus' is for bathroom fixtures. JP3 was enjoyable, but no magnum opus. It was better than JP2 (though I love Goldblum in anything). Overall, I love the trilogy, I'm a dinosaur nut and have been since I was 10. I'd welcome a 4th movie, even something insane as military-trained raptor shock-troopers.
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Belong to one of three categories:
1.Racist
2. Homophobe
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was an amazingly flawed film. just about every scene was way to fucking long. most of the dinos were made up. and his camera never sits still. as for cap they should do sterankos hydra or hulk takes. nuff said.
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Granted, cgi looks the shit, but time was that if someone was going to put a dinosaur in a film, that was the budget, that was what you were there for. Now, anyone can stick a dinosaur in, often for comic effect, which breaks my heart. Comedy T-rex in land of the lost. Fuck sake. Someone needs to do a film that just focuses on the dinosaurs, like the first Jurassic park! Creatively using the cgi, limiting the screentime (Never thought i'd say that about dinosaurs) and just having the dinosaurs do more than chase and eat people, like the scenes with the brachiosaur and triceratops. The most enjoyable dinsaur stuff i've seen in recent years have been those ludicrous BBC Nigel Marvin "Time-docs", which, even though he's an incredibly annoying man, were at least imaginitive enough to present cgi dinosaurs in a different way.
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seig heil, you yank faggot.
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Jan 15, 2010 8:28:44 AM CST
nukeboy1970, go eat some granola at a Save The Microbes rally
by butterbean
Shit-stirrer.
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...been bad, but you and anyone who's seen has to admit, that The Thing and Dr. Doom's costumes, as well as Johnny's "flame on" scene were pretty damn good. And you would have figured that 12 years later, the "NEW" FF would have been stunningly superior.... BUT WEREN'T.... as bad as it was, the current ones were as bad. but I agree, having copies of BOTH 1990 Captain America and Corman's Fantastic Four, they ARE crap. !!!
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Aaron Eckhart.Make it so Hollywood. And the only captain Josh Lucas is fit to play is captain Crunch.
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JP4: Start on the island lead to actually creating a real park on the main land. Of course it goes horribly wrong. Part of the movie is people trying to survive in the park the other part is the dinosaurs(plural) getting loose. JP5: Some years later dinos are still on the loose in parts of the world breiding and the numbers are growing. They are an accepted part of the society more dangerous animals like bears, lions, or sharks. A group goes on a safari type adventure into dinosaur country with horrible results. Dinos continue to spread around world. JP6 Perhaps Grant was right and Raptors would have become the dominate species? The movie could be a survival disaster type movie where dinosaurs have over run most cities with a band of survivors trying to get out of the city to safety. Def need water dinosaurs.
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Dude, fine, nice dissertation. That NO ONE outside this talkbalk will read. Quite simply Caps costume is silly outside of comics. The wings may stand for the "wings of liberty" but even that sounds lame. Expect a more real world friendly Cap. It will happen.
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OMG he would have been perfect, but dammit a bit too old now
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JP1- classic and one of the best movie-going experiences of my life.
JP2 & 3 are both fun for what they are. They have exactly one awesome set piece each (JP2-T-Rex's and cliff scene, JP3- Pteradon enclosure) and the rest is a good time.
Agreed with a few others here. JP4 needs to be about Ingen creating and opening a Jurassic Park on the mainland (Orlando perhaps?) and, once it's full of tourists, then all hell can break loose.
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Jan 15, 2010 12:25:21 PM CST
The thing is, it SHOULDN'T break away from the original
by performingmonkey
What they need to do is END the series, not begin a new trilogy of shit cash cows!! We need a great conclusion, something that works more as a REAL sequel to Jurassic Park, featuring all the characters. Have a park open on the mainland and it's a success, though people don't realise that there are WORSE than real dinos coming, the experimental genetics has created these insane hybrid killing machines, also a huge Godzilla-style mutated monster, like a Rex crossed with something else. Definitely go in that direction but ALSO make it true to the original characters Grant, Malcolm et al.
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Jan 15, 2010 12:26:40 PM CST
JP3 had a lot more balls than the other 2 and didn't take
by lanemyersclassic
itself so seriously. If you had a fucking problem with Tea Leoni and the crew eating out of a vending machine, you're way too high strung (read: picky bitch)for these movies. Those dudes with the "big gun" at the beginning laughing it up while blowing up stuff and then running like bitches out of the jungle when they actually see the Spino was priceless.
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Is arguably better than JP2, but the end was a huge WTF?!
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..I always LOVED the first JP but never felt the same magic from 2 and 3. And even at that I agree with the annoying kids/Spielberg angle.Massive comic book reader/ran, never cared for ol' Caps.
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I don't care if he's not American.
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When it's Crichton's original idea that got it started. So where are the movies of good-to-great Crichton fair like Prey, Next, and even State of Fear? Especially given that made novels like Timeline and Congo into movies.
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Be a great movie. There's plenty to love about the character, about the period, about the whole Super Soldier Serum that's appeared now, in various forms, in Spiderman (sorta) and The Incredible Hulk. And let's not forget Cap's adamantium shield . . . it's unfortunate that every Captain America, big and small screen, has been atrocious. I'd love to see them do better. And I'm thinking they just might.
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Fuck, i look like Cap too. Doesn't mean I should play him. That's why i support Brad pitt or Matt damon.
Even though they are too old.
(and short)
Such bullshit could be overcome with MovieMagicTM.
They are both respected actors that have proven they could carry a solo movie. AND work well in an ensamble cast(AVENGERS).
Using a "Name" actor would ensure that the general audience would go see the movie. It would also make the suits fidgety about using a crap script. Pitt or Damon would not accept a bullshit script.
Skarsgård is not:
1: IMHO a solid enough actor to carry a whole movie.
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2.American.
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I think it's a good start. Skarsgard is a pretty solid actor, as he showed in "Generation Kill".
Most of the actors being mentioned as good candates for playin Cap haven't proved they can draw people to the cinema, either.
About Askarsgard not being American, well I'm not American so to me this is not an issue, but I understand who thinks otherwise. -
I meant 'candidates for playing Cap'.
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Still think it matters. And a SHOW is different from a MOVIE.
It...Well, it just is. -
Jan 15, 2010 4:21:03 PM CST
Nathan Fillion as a Velociraptor is a Great Idea by Asimov_Lives
by rene_belloq_12inch_figure
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Jan 15, 2010 4:22:20 PM CST
People Who Hate Captain America hate America
by rene_belloq_12inch_figure
and are communists.
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Jan 15, 2010 4:28:39 PM CST
Nathan Fillion as Black Girl Gymnast who kicks Raptor
by rene_belloq_12inch_figure
is a Great Idea by Asimov_Lives
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Dont get me wrong, he was actually pretty decent in "Generation Kill".
And Mel Gibson should contact him regarding that Viking thingee.
But as CAP...Yeah ok, here's a good example: Kiefer Sutherland. Great actor. I like him a lot. But... look at his box-office numbers:
http://tinyurl.com/yl9y4e4
Obviously not a big money-maker for the studio heads.
However he made a big comeback on TV with 24. So good for him in the end.
Another example would be Charlie Sheen. Why is HE also just on tv? Now.
Just the money?
Or the cold harsh reality that the general audience wants to see someone else. THIS is the sort of things the suits take into Consideration. Money. Because THEY are splorking up the cash to get this made.
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Take one of James Cameron's Avatar creatures and put it next to one of the Dinos in Jurassic Park 1. JP1 still has superior realism.
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super trained dino-humans that go on special-ops missions or something?
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Jan 15, 2010 5:36:14 PM CST
They should have the Cap battling Islamic extremists
by richard_gere_raped_my_gerbil
Because, after all, they're the new Nazis.
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Jan 15, 2010 6:23:00 PM CST
Yeah last thing I read sounded Like a Dino-Riders Script
by rene_belloq_12inch_figure
They should keep it close to home, people trying to take advantage exploit the island. Maybe the island is causing problems to nature, animals becoming extinct, man in danger of extinction for fucking up nature like global warming, but with dinosaurs.
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I have to disagree that he's too old, the guy is doing an action series and looks pretty well built. I think his age gives him weight. He looks experienced and commands a degree of presence, which is exactly what Captain America needs.
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Served in Operation Desert Storm, this guy is note perfect. I honestly couldn't think of anyone better.
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If we don't see Nick and the Commandoes this movie will stink to high heaven.
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I would say the CGI in Avatar is better, but considering that Jurassic Park is the better part of 20 years old and the CGI can still hold up against movies like Avatar is pretty fucking incredible, it's certainly the best CGI of the 90's
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http://tinyurl.com/yhvr7q9
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Jan 15, 2010 10:35:40 PM CST
there should be a movie just about the casting of cap
by yoyodynepropulsionsystems
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Avon was great now on to the Howling Commandos. Also Clark Gregg should be back as Agent Coulson from S.H.I.E.L.D. In modern times of course. Harris=past. Gregg=future.
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THE best choice for Cap A is Nathan Fillion. As long as he keeps the same physique as he had as Capt. Hammer, then I'm sold!!
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JP is my 2nd favorite movie of all time. It's definitely my #1 greatest movie-going experience to this day. JP2 was just fun and didn't need to be as epic as the first one. JP3 was fun too but WAAAY to cheesy for a JP movie. I'll pay $10 to see any Jurassic Park movie EVEN if the fucking dinosaurs have FUCKING lasers attached to them!!! (side note) GOD I hope they don't have lasers attached to them.
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some guy.Seriously, though, have you seen some of the planks they are auditioning? Scaaary...
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Emo Teenage Dinosaur Vampires vs Teenage Dinosaur lycanthropes.
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Jan 16, 2010 10:51:37 AM CST
The Dirty Dozen -- with a guy in a mask, pajamas and a shield.
by hesiod2k
Yeah. That could work.
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They've teased it in every JP movie and book so far... just have some feral dinos running amok in the mainland and a team created to study/hunt them down and protect the earth from the most deadly invasive species ever. You can start with scientists at the old InGen islands studying the Dinosaurs "in the wild," then have them called to assist a crack team of dino hunters who have to save humanity. It's simple, could be fun, and is a hell of a lot less moronic than "Dinos with lasers," "Dinosapiens," or whatever's being rumored these days.
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Seriously, a period piece where Cap embodies all of our faded WWII era American ideals and hopes? That would be awesome! Lots of potential for great action and some real depth/complexity there too. Best of all, it doesn't have to be "grim and gritty" and you can send the audience home happy, like they were with Iron Man. In the right hands (not sure if Johnston's are capable of the human side of things) this would be awesome!
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Not a great movie, but it knew what it was and didn't beat around the bush. It was a good old-school creature feature that was a little campy, yet took itself just seriously enough to be enjoyable.
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Just throwing out the obvious way to keep it going. Since there hopefully won't be another place called "Jurassic Park" in the films (that horse has been beaten to death) they have to take the films in a new direction.
I like the idea of dinosaurs somehow making it out into the world and threatening to reclaim it and drive humanity to extinction in the process. We could even have one of the members keeping a loveable dinosaur as a pet.
The final chapter in the trilogy could end with the last surviving Dinos being wiped out by a disease, while we watch the final giant dinosaur (maybe a T. Rex or even a frightened, rampaging giant sauropod in a reference to the old Willis O'Brien "Lost World.") going out in a blaze of glory in a sad King Kong-ish moment.
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Seriously... same movie. Just substitute dinosaurs for the sharks and you've got it.
"Ain't you seen my movies? Jurassic Park 4!?! He ate me! A dinosaur ate me! He ate my ass!!!!" -
It could almost turn into the first 3 Romero zombie movies, but with dinosaurs instead. It could have a brain and be full of rocking action and effects, too. Tell me an apocalyptic "Living Dinosaurs" trilogy wouldn't kick all sorts of ass if done right!
The first film could be society's vain attempts to hang on. The second could be scattered bands of humans as governments have toppled with dinosaurs ruling the world again. In the third part some brilliant scientist somewhere could save the world at the last minute so people don't walk out of a huge trilogy all pissed off.
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It's pretty clear he's either gotten the part or is pressing really hard to get it. Why this guy is getting such a huge push from the studios is beyond me. He's ok, I guess, but I'm not a huge fan and I'd rather see an AMERICAN play CAPTAIN AMERICA!!!
If Harry Potter fans can get an all British cast for an entire 8 film series of blockbusters, can't they go out and find ONE good American actor to play Captain America!?!?
I hate how Hollywood studios turn to Australians now whenever they want a rugged, badass type (Worthington, Crowe, Bana, etc.). They think Americans are too pussed out to do it now. EVEN WHEN THE CHARACTER IS NAMED CAPTAIN AMERICA AND STANDS FOR BYGONE PATRIOTIC AMERICAN IDEALS AND DREAMS! That's just insulting. -
Which one is stronger: Dinosaurs or Mammals. Resurrect Mammoths and Sabretooths and have them fight against the Raptors!
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