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Charlie Francis Is Fighting Crime In Tonight’s First New Episode Of FRINGE Since Dec. 10??
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Tonight Fox airs “Unearthed,” an episode of “Fringe” that Fox apparently ordered last season but somehow never got around to airing in 2009.
What’s bizarre is few people appear to have heard about this “lost” episode until a couple weeks ago. It isn’t on the first-season Blu-ray set, yet FBI man Charlie Francis, who met grisly death early in the second season, is still wandering around. And Astrid’s still got her season-one hair.
If I recall correctly, Fox came to order 22 episodes season-one epiosdes but only aired 20. Could another "lost" episode be rattling around in Fox's vaults somewhere?
Fox says:
After a teenage girl is pronounced brain dead, her mother takes her off life support, but when doctors operate quickly to remove her organs, the deceased girl shockingly awakens screaming an alphanumeric code. Equally as perplexing as her resurrection is that she is now somehow able to speak Russian and possesses classified information only a high-ranking soldier would know. While the girl's mind-bending condition intensifies, Walter dusts off some old lab videos and hypothesizes the unthinkable, sending Olivia and Peter to investigate the bewildering case in an original "Unearthed" episode of FRINGE and here's another mystery: is it an unaired episode from Season One or is it from an alternate universe? Cast: Anna Torv as Olivia Dunham; Joshua Jackson as Peter Bishop; John Noble as Walter Bishop; Lance Reddick as Phillip Broyles; Kirk Acevedo as Charlie Francis; Blair Brown as Nina Sharp; Jasika Nicole as Astrid Farnsworth.
Another, less puzzling new episode of “Fringe” airs Thursday.
9 p.m. Monday. Fox.
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How can this be? The show is very good. I am not sure how an episode could be "Lost" when the show has been on for only a year! is it possible this is a ploy?
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Why wasn't this one shown during the first series?
It will no doubt confuse some viewers shown out of context seeing that Charlie is now dead as well.
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It just want shown when series 1 aired when they decided to cut it down to 20 episodes.
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I call it! Something is clearly up with this episodes, otherwise it would have been included in the video release. It either is a story that dovetails into a story in the second season, or it's "it happened, but it didn't happen" "reset button" episode. At least that's my speculation.
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and there were subtle differences to clue the viewer in to the fact.
But that won't be the case. We already know that the Walter of OtherEarth doesn't have a Peter, and is a bit of an asshole.
So the far more mundane explanation is that this was a hold over from Season 1. -
As the series premiere was a double length episode, this will normally be episodes 1 & 2, the 'second' episode should have been correctly numbered as '1x03' so this missed episode will make up the total season 1 count to 22. Does this also mean that since this is a missing season 1 episode that it has the longer runing time that they had then or has it been trimmed to fit season 2 broadcast times?
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Bad move on FOX's part to put a random, not connected episode in their and advertise it as new, especially if it has a dead character walking around like nothing ever happened. It's gonna confuse the fuck out of people not in the loop. Oh well, guess you just have to take this episose with a grain of salt. If it didnt air, it means nothing too great or mythology based is gonna happen anyway I would guess. Just another interesting mystery of the week hopefullly
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it conflicts on my dvr with other tv tonight. now if only NBC would swap timeslots for Chuck and Heroes...
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that this episode will end with some sort of twist that it's actually an episode from THIS season, and totally F-up the status quo.
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I'm curious to see how the ratings shake out.
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...if Peter Bishop is around.
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I think that would alienate people who aren't paying attention and mess up a ton of people who aren't die-hards, but still try to mostly keep up. most people don't even know this episode is airin at all. I wish FOX had the balls to do something like that...but I seriously doubt it personally. Who knows tho
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I hope you are right. This just doesn't make sense.
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Or FUX is pulling a Firefly with Fringe.
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If you were referring to the Walter we saw when his brain was restored, he was the Walter of our Earth. I suppose you could infer based upon our Walter that their Walter is a dick too. If there has been a reference to the Walter of the other Earth, I missed it.
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Perhaps it has something that they finished the episode due to air thursday, and then realised they hadnt aired tonight's one which sets it up?
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Isn't the prevailing theory that the people of the "other" universe are being lead by Other Walter who wants Peter back?
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smells like Fox is doing a "who the fuck cares, we are cancelling this soon anyway!" just like Firefly! Oh Well there goes another good show, doubt it will be replaced by anything good , probably another run of the mill cop show with a dash of gregory house gimmicy brit actor hook! I say make Speedo!, the lawyer who wears tight speedos all the time (that give him a limp so he has to use a cane!)
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That's pretty much my theory/understanding thus far. Other Walter wants Stolen Peter back.
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When Fox replaces every scheduled episode of Fringe with an hour of 'Til Death
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. . .what is up with that? It isn't normal? It's like some animal...I mean, she is an attractive woman and I know she is a lesbian (which should mean a greater understanding of women) but seriously, the one Fringe investigation I want is into her hair...
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is anybody still interested? I don't know why I'm still watching, it's almost a chore.
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And I'm still getting entertained. Love this show.
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Though they really do push it sometimes, there's been 2 occasions on Fringe where i was about to turn off, and decided to watch the next ep and see if it grabbed me, and both times it has brought me back from the brink, they cant afford in today's TV universe to let it drag on for so long between major events as the audience's patience will just wear thinner and thinner.
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What a complete lack of respect for the producers and viewers to air this now. Should have been included on the first season DVD if anything. Fucking idiotic.
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...I might watch this show.
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How do you know Astrid is a Lesbian?
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It basically goes on hiatus after every new episode and now they come back with an unaired episode from S1? I wonder how many fans will see Acevedo and think it's a repeat and turn it off.
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Welcome to crapfest, population FRINGE.
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Get your facts straight.
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Jan 11, 2010 1:52:20 PM CST
When I read the guide info, I thought that sounds like a good se
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When I read the guide info, I thought that sounds like a good season 1 show and what do you know it is. Hopefully the new episodes start not sucking so much!
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Dead but got better?
Alt universe Charlie? -
Fox is checking to see if Fringe can pull a larger audience. Tonight is the night. If things work out, we may see Fringe get a better time slot/day when (if) a 3rd season rolls around.
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... it will be next Sci-Fi canceled by FOX just as it gets good.
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Dollhouse got good BECAUSE it was cancelled. That's what happens when shows set end dates and not dick around with their story and fans.
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I expect a new episode of Brisco County Jr. any day now.
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...make Family Guy make a joke bout it... then people would HAVE to watch Fringe to see whats it about... right?
"Hey Lois, remember the time I watched Fringe and all my body cavities closed up"...viewer goes huh? hulu fringe...boom, fringe is more popular than American Idle... -
...am I endorsin Family Guy... but I do endorse American Dad...
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Jan 11, 2010 9:13:40 PM CST
That was a decent ep, but the "possessed" acting sucked
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Also, did anyone else have the last minute or so of the first segment just get cut off by commercials? Later, Oliva refers to the girl seeing Rusk in a mirror, yet I didn't see that scene.It's bizarre that this wasn't shown last season.
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I looked on imdb but they don't have a cast list for this ep. yet. Who played Lisa, the girl with the Naval dead guy's soul? She looked so familiar but I don't know from where.
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I saw it
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If it had been aired it would have easily been the worst episode of season one I think. The characters didn't even seem well written. And the ending was completely rushed and made no sense. Peter told her to take control, which didn't seem to be working, Charlie (also resurrected in a way, ha) shoots her with a dart, and when she wakes up she's perfectly fine? How and why? Very unsatisfying. And that crappy tacked on cliffhanger. I hope we never have to deal with this stupid crap again. Why did they even do that? They shouldn't have aired this, imo.
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They didn't film a continuation of this episode and then realize that they didn't air the first part, did they? That would be odd.
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Walking by on the street.
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I thought it was some Fight Club, Tyler Durden kinda stuff. I was wondering why nobody said anything about the dead dude on camera
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It was the religious content that got this pulled. Once the series was "safe" they put it on, continuity be damned. I thought it wasn't all together bad.
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Since no one else seems to know, and she is for some reason left off all the cast lists for this episode, the actress who played Lisa is Alice Kremelberg... pass it on.
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appreciate it...it was the Pelham 123 remake I must have seen her in
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Pretty big fucking WTF moment for the wife and I. Took me about two seconds to realize we were watching some crap "lost" episode that never aired last year. Horrible hour too. Doesn't surprise me why it was suppressed.
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Astrid is a lesbian - she has dated men but now prefers love of the lady kind...many men are weeping at the news. But the hair...that is still a mystery...
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Switched on - saw Charlie - thought 'old episode' - switched over.
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If Charlie wasn't dead. Makes no sense why they even bothered to air it. Still, not a half bad episode but there has definitely been better.
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This would have been the only Season One ep NOT to have been part of the overall mythology (no Pattern mention), unlike this season where its X-Files two or three to one.
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Alternate Earth or our Earth, or maybe some other alternate Earth, we now have a drug that enables the person taking it to completely reanimate a recently deceased body and suppress the previous personality at will. It can apparently then leave the reanimated corpse completely alive and with the previous personality back in control. Wonder if that might be handy in an upcoming battle.
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As the hour dragged on and on, I felt my anger at FOX for not screening this episode dissipating and being replaced by a new anger at FOX for screening this episode. I am an angry person.
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the first season was great, second season had two good episodes and a bunch of recycled x-files rip offs. Fuck tv, its all going to shit.
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With Peter playing the Scully sceptic and Olivia playing the gullible believer.
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Jasika Nichole is out of the closet but no reference to the character
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it was awesome ..ye wee Goddamn God hatin heathens..and it also provides big giant spoilery clues to an 'other' JJ creation..
The Psalm 34:4 (as referenced on the Church peg-board) is: ""I sought the LORD, and he heard me, and delivered me from all my fears."" It references David's 'changed' behaviour before the semi-divine king and speaks to the experience of being rescuedand did ya knot notice in the CODA..after the fade to black. The EMT checks the auto accident victim's vitals says "I think he is dead" ...and then the same eye opening motif and the same 'POOM' sound FX.
Consciousness, in certain circumstances, in certain places, can 'transfer', can transmute, can avoid dissipation, when proximate to an 'other' in similar circumstance. The Religious understanding and explanation of 'possession' is only a..better to say 'metaphor' ..for something that is not only not understandable but not explainable.. humans don't have the vocabulary for it. yet. maybe.
As one ageless fella said to an other on a beach.."You know what I mean..."
To note: Walter's evocation of Isaiah 7:9 to the mother.. ("""Unless you believe, you will not understand."") is actually more credited to Augistine de Hippo. St. Augustine. In the latin Vulgate the Isaiah 7:9 quote is: ""si non credideritis non permanebitis"" ..If you will not believe, you shall not continue. And btw, Isaiah 7 contains God's admonition of the coming of Jesus Christ. further just to tie this into the notion of avatars and the all-encompassing 'Avatar' ...Grace Augustine...get it. Augustine. of some note for the concept of irresistible Grace. no? nothing? far out.
Black is White, Yin is Yang, Hot is Cold....DeVito is tall...
...John is Kate.
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thought i had missed an episode and they had a reason for Charlie being alive or that we were in an alternate universe then saw on here that Fox aired out of order like the typical fox morons they are. Walter did seem different than usual, though. Maybe it was another reality where he isn't insane!
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I dunno guys, Fox and the writers of Fringe are clever guys - im not to sure they would just plonk a random episode into what is seeming to be a great season thus far.
I think the clue comes within the glyphs shown at the ad breaks. For those that dont know, the glyphs or images are a coded letters. Every week the glyphs spell out a word which is a cryptic clue to the premise of the next episode.
The episode before christmas was 'Grey Matters' and the glyphs spelt out the word = P.O.R.T.A.L.
The only way I can stick that to this episode is that it is indeed an alternate universe. For those that want to know the glyphs from this episode spell the word 'A.V.E.N.G.E'. So I guess we'll know for sure when thursdays episodes airs. If there is a hint of 'avenging' then we know that this episode is cannon.
nb. Also Walter has referred to an infinite number of alternate universes. Throughout both seasons there have been hash ups and goofs - but who is to say that every week we are seeing a different universe. With earth 1 and other earth being the main centre points.
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amalgamate of hard fact and soft theory. combined. stirred up and served as nougaty awesome all right now. well done.
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I know JJ did something similar with Alias. (The letters that were boxed in the placenames that Sydney went to, spelled out a clue that in Season 1, told the viewer that Irina Derevko was alive.) But this is the first I'm hearing about the Fringe hidden messages.
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Doode, i'd like to take the credit but checkout:
http://fringepedia.net/wiki/Fringe_Symbols
this should explain what the glyphs mean - this has been officially not-denied. haha
Then checkout the episodes and it reveals the glyph words. up until now they have all been on the money.
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I like where your head is at. To add, fox.com/fringe has the Unearthed episode recap just added to the list of season 2 following Grey Matters. Summary for tomorrow's ep states "The team investigates a small town where disfigured people attempt to hide themselves" Could be interesting.
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The only way having Charlie Francis around and maintain the continuity of the current season is to declare this episode occurred in an alternate universe. BTW, did anyone notice the bald man in the hat walking in the background when Dunham met the girl and her mother at the church?
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I don't think you should worry so much about continuity issues. If you don't know that the "bald man in the hat walking in the background" is called The Observer and appears in every episode then what does it matter that they aired an episode out of order? You're not really paying attention anyway.
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