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More Hints Emerge Regarding The Final Season Of LOST!!
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Boone Carlyle will appear in “Lost’s” Feb. 2 sixth-season premiere and likely other episodes spread throughout the series’ final season, Ian Somerhalder told a Saturday roundtable of reporters covering The CW’s “The Vampire Diaries.”
Somerhalder shot his part in the season premiere back in September.
"I'm going back to do other episodes, I think, spread out throughout the season," Somerhalter said. "The season opener for that show, I was so blown away and so impressed and so thankful that I was even a part of that, because it's big. The script weighed about four pounds. You sit there and you go, 'Wow, this is an episode of television.'"
Showrunner Carlton Cuse tweeted Dec. 9 (roughly one month ago) that he and partner Damon Lindelof were “now” co-writing episode 6.11. By my rough calculations, this means the series now has fewer than a half-dozen episodes left to shoot.
Somerhalder’s character, Boone, was killed by a fall near the end of “Lost’s” first season. It’s understood that many characters killed during “Lost’s” first five seasons will have substantial roles to play in the series’ final 18 hours. “Heroes” star Greg Grunberg, who played the doomed pilot of Oceanic flight 815, said recently that he’ll be back for season six.
Find SciFi Wire’s report on the session here.
The photo above comes from “FiveManJob,” who wrote AICN on Jan. 7:
my wife and I just returned from Hawaii and, while hiking in the Manoa rainforest we ate at the restaurant (the scene with Miles and the body in the kitchen last season was his kitchen as well as parts of the Orchid Station set) where some of the LOST sets are constructed - the owner was an awesome guy and when we noticed the polar bear cages outside he said they had been put back up 2 weeks ago and the cast was coming back to shoot this Thursday
Apparently Sawyer returns to the other island to visit the bear cages at some point coming up
Hope that helps!
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Apparently Sawyer returns to the other island to visit the bear cages at some point coming up
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until there is a lost bluray/dvd box set and how much will it be? any guesses?
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Sounds good. I can't wait for this season to be awesome. I'm glad we'll get to see some of the character's that were lost along the way.
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I bet after the flash in the last season Jack and Co. wake up where they started at the beginning of the first season
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I've been watching the entire series as it's been awhile. Wanted to remind myself how awesome the show is. Near the end of Season 3. My boner for the final season is raging, my friends.
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Complete series will be out around Thanksgiving. Seasons 1-5 were less than $15 per season in DVD and less than $22 in Blu in a 24-hour sale a little more than a month ago.
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Great show, can't wait. Gotta find out if any of these characters can be saved!!
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My other favorite: The Sopranos, had a TON of really weak episodes and no true "storyline" to follow through to the end. LOST really is like one GIANT movie. It has some of the greatest characters ever (Locke, Ben Linus) as well as some of the greatest cliffhangers ("We Have to Go Back")
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I'll admit the show has become must-see genre tv that somehow found mainstream audiences too. But, for me, the show began to lose me at the end of season 2, start of season 3. I gave up watching the show until just before the Season 5 premiere, when I was convinced by people still watching it, that I should catch up.
Even back-to-back viewing (which is the best way to watch a show like this) I thought Season 3 was mostly very weak, and Season 4 marked the begining of the huge upswing.
I think that in the future, people will look back on Lost the way we look back on tv defining shows like The Prisoner, The Fugitive, M.A.S.H. etc...
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No doubt about that, my favourite show of all time. X-Files in second (though I like to forget about the last couple of seasons).
Whilst The Wire and Sopranos is probably the best produced tv and make my all time top 10, both never generated the level of excitement and anticipation that Lost has. I would say that from an entertainment perspective, not since before seeing Star Wars Episode 1 have I been so excited about seeing any piece of entertainenmt (tv or movie - though Dark Knight would be number 2 in the last decade). I hope of course that Lost's final season doesn't disappoint like the prequels and I am pretty confident that it won't.
For me Lost is the TV equivalant of Star Wars.
A few shows have tried to capture the audience like Lost and so far all have failed. Had high hopes for Fringe and whilst I enjoy it, its not there, its far from there.
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He is pretty damn good in Vampire Diarys. So is the dude who plays his brother.
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If the pilot is going to be shooting more shit, I'm guessing that's a big drop that we are going to see a plane land at LAX. I think the Losties stuck in '77 are going to land at LAX and be the only ones on the plane who realize it, and have to do some parallel universe shit to make everything "right", whatever that may be.
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That sounds about right, however the makers have said that the new series will follow a linear narrative.
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and it'll be alright. Juliet and Sawyer, too. I read something that put Hurley almost atop the rankings as the best character. WTF?
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was pretty funny.
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we don't get a *God Did It* conclusion again
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because now that Battlestar Galactica and The Sopranos are gone, this is the only show I give a diddly poo about on TV. Once it's gone, I really have no idea what I'm going to watch. Another hour of watching fucktards bake supercakes on the Food Network each week, I guess.
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Anyone who is disappointed by the ending of BSG must not have noticed the strong religious themes all through the series. The fleet (and the Cylons) were broken down to the point of having nothing... then a miraculous resolution saves them all. Why is that offensive as a strorytelling technique?
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I gave Flash Forward a try but stopping it for months half way thru the season has lost me as a viewer. If it survives and has good reviews I'll catch up with it in a few seasons.
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What the hell am I going to watch once this is over? At least when BSG drew to a close, I thought 'Well, I still have LOST'. Once this is gone, that's it for me. Nothing else COMES CLOSE to the mythology and intrigue of this show. If ABC have got any brains, they'll force the writers into a room at gunpoint and get them to make something new because no other television writers come close to them in terms of quality.
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High-concept soap opera. Agonizing to watch. I rented season one on DVD and could barely get through the eight or nine episodes I watched without wanting to slit my own wrists. Why is this show popular? I don't know.
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Seriously. Find. A. New. Internet. Cliche. Douche. Bag.
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Yeah, I also realize that The Wire is probably the best show, but Lost is by far my favorite. Spent the better part of Sunday watching the season 4 finale over again, and the dvd extras that I hadn't seen yet. Gonna rewatch season 5 before the final season starts.It's going to be sad once this show is over. Oh, and what Behemoth said.
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Quit. Fucking. Whining.
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And by far.. can't wait and at the same time don't wait it to end.
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Fucking your brain, nothing else matters..... sorry Motoko
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Anyone obsessed knew that Ian was coming back to play Boone. ALTHOUGH the polar bear cage is kind of intresting. Its beyond me how they can wrap this show up in the 17(?) episodes left.
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Ya on an obsession level, this tops out Star Wars for me (kinda hard to compare as its a movie to a tv show). Ya though...Lost is the all time best. KILLS me they (damon and carlton) passed the buck on The Gunslinger adaptation.
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In one version Juliet successfully detonates the bomb, the plane never crashes, and we learn what happens to the characters after the plane lands in its intended destination. In the other version Juliet is not able to detonate the bomb and we follow the characters on the island. This is why all the “dead” characters are able to return – because the plane never crashed in version 1, none of them died to begin with.
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The first few seasons of the show, I just braced myself knowing that there was no way the ending would ever live up to those expectations. Now I'm convinced that they are going to nail it.
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That they are still on the island an filming in Hawaii? This is a totally pointless story about somebody taking a picture and makiing up plot points. Give a reason for Lost posts.
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I heard it's only following one timeline, the one where they land at LAX.
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possibility that those "touched" by Jacob will retain some kind of knowledge that the alternate timeline is "wrong." So a lot like Bishop, from the 90's X-Men AoA saga, they will be on a mission to set things right...We may also see flavors of The Dark Tower: The Wastelands, where dead characters just inherently know there is something wrong and they shouldn't be alive. For those looking for something new to watch: check out The Wire finally! Completely different show but the writing is the best there ever was on TV.
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So if you dont like Lost, what do you consider a good show?
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Well put regarding LOST (vs. Sopranos, The Wire, etc.). While I love all the aforementioned, only LOST has that WTF-will-happen-next because of the paranormal/scifi underpinnings.
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Yeah I think there are still going to be 2 story lines for at least part of the season. The plane is going to land at LAX, but we are also still going to see what happens with fake Locke/MIB on the island after they kill Jacob.
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I sure wish theyd get the Lost writers on the next Star Trek movie. Im not sure what the Orci/Kurtzman relationship is to the Abrams crew, but Id much prefer Lindelof/Cuse on board as writers or coming up with the story. I know they were part of the production on part one, but storytellers like that need to be at the helm, not backing up Orci/Kurtzman who are very iffy writers.
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The Wire, The Shield, and BSG are all recently ended. I never got into The Sopranos, Deadwood, Oz, or Carnivale, or Veronica Mars, so I guess i could dig up some of those dead shows to watch. Supernatural has been kicking ass for years now, but that may end after this year unless they go forward with the plan to give it more seasons (I have no problem with that, long as they are good but the original plan was for that show to end after 5 seasons).
What else is left as far as ongoing genre shows? Love Dexter, so I'll continue to watch that. Love 24, but that's a totally different type of show. Fringe is good but I want more mythology and less monster of the week. Flash Forward has potential, but for most of the episodes shown so far it has squandered that. I enjoy True Blood as well, but like 24 I enjoy it on another level than Lost. I almost want to say that there's not another show that can come along that I'll enjoy as much as Lost, but I felt that way when Angel the Series ended as well. Lets hope for the best, or at least for Flash Forward and Fringe to step it the fuck up! -
Jan 11, 2010 10:29:12 AM CST
If we're going off of shooting reports and casting spoilers...
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You are TERRIBLY behind the times... stick to reviewing stuff, AICN, and not spoiler news. Leave that stuff to the professionals...
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they've said that the season will start off with multiple timelines and stories, but about 1/3 of the way through the season, they'll all be unified into a single timeline. I have no clue how they're gonna do that, but im excited.
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"Like, a third of the way in to the season, I would guess we are going to settle into one time frame, and it will be very linear-no more flashbacks, nothing. It will be on the Island and sort of a final conflict to the end," said [Matthew] Fox. He assured fans that all the crazy storylines introduced in earlier seasons will be resolved and that the conflict between Jack and Locke "will come head to head" this season, but he wouldn't divulge more than that.
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never seen sopranos, looks fucking annoying. veronica mars!? get the fuck out. dexter turned shit when senator organa showed up so i stopped watching, flashforward and heroes are car crash tv and fringe is just a step above that. just. same with dollhouse.
this alternate timeline thing is the gayest move ever, i think they even said in a podcast or whatever that they would never do that shit, coz then whats the point of the show? i'll just pretend omar didnt get killed by a little nigga then since alternate timelines are acceptable in tv. pfft. -
And is Mr Eko coming back? I love that big scary monster of a man!
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AND...if they just land on the tarmac of LAX, how do they explain the WAY older look of Walt?!
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The actor was quite vocal about not returning.
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Can't get here soon enough. Without Lost, I'll be, um ... lost.
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Well, there's always potential in Caprica.
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I've been meaning to watch the pilot but knowing how things end in BSG a prequel series just doesn't have me foaming at the mouth.
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I thought Eko might be back because he is featured on the season 6 promo poster. Maybe he will make a guest cameo.
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This is coming from someone who enjoyed the BSG finale. I just don't have any desire to watch Caprica. Now, a story about Cylon War I, I'd probably enjoy more... but that's still a prequel in the universe in which I know the fate of their entire humanoid race.
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Lindelof was a producer on the first film, and is co-writing the 2nd. Relax.
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Jan 11, 2010 12:44:05 PM CST
I thought Michael was the only character they couldn't get
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back. I thought everyone else was willing to come back. Sure they screwed Eko, and screwed him hard... all the Tailies actually, but he'll be back.
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no Libby, no Rousseau, and still as of yet, no Shannon. No word on Ana Lucia or Walt.
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abc are cheap bastards
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they had a big storyline for him but, he wanted out to direct a movie. it was about his parents i believe. he's always been rumored to be "divaish" on his previous series too.
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Nice way to mangle the facts a bit. His parents died, and he was already sick of hawaii and wasn't the easiest to get along with. His original deal with LOST was a single-year arc with the possibility of more, but he wanted out. His parents death was the straw that broke the camel's back so they let him go. Whether or not he directed a movie after all that is beside the point. Eko was going to be in Locke's place and possibly taken over by MIB, but they had to use Locke instead for the faith in the island storyline once Eko was gone. Interestingly enough, the actor has expressed interest in possibly returning (because I think he regrets his decision especially after he saw what the show became), but as of yet, nothing has been filmed yet.
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...i have nothin but NBC comedies and How I Met My Baby Momma to watch damnit... no more Dollhouse and Lost... Fringe, you better pick it up!
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after seeing how much they charged for the BSG one which was only 4 seasons, i can only guess what they'll charge for this show. though it probably wont come out til near christmas and with blu-ray doing so well and prices dropping on players and movies, maybe it'll be reasonable.
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yeah like everyone else i wont have much to watch either. Lost is the last hour long show i even follow. the others are Scrubs, which is likely gonna be cancelled soon, and the animated lineup on Fox sundays. i'll only be watching tv one night a week by the fall, thats sorta good though. lol
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Don't get too excited. He will not be back in physical form. He only did voice work for the premiere.
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I have high hopes for it.
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TNT is playing reruns of Supernatural weekdays starting from the very beginning early mornings. It shows 7am here (maybe 10am other places?).
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I agree it got better the last few weeks. I was about to drop it but the wife liked it for some reason and it has improved. Not sure it will return for a season 2 though as the ratings are not that great.
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...I just know I will be disappointed by its cancellation... I hope not... and even tho the last episode was good (actually most of em were), I cant remember nothin cept Gabrielle Union realized Harold is dead... this and Fringe the only hourlongs Ill give my time too... maybe Caprica if you fan boys convince me enough... but I dunno how much a BSG fan I am anymore, Im conflicted on the finale and just saw the Plan last night... seemed like I jus watched a 2 hour porno wit a old guy frakkin every attractive female possible (even tho theyre siblings!)
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Do we know if he will be back? I love me some crazy ass Faraday!
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I gave him season 1 and 2 a few years ago but the bastard never watched them. Every time I mention how good the show is, he responds with, "I dunno man... I saw a couple of episodes of season 1 and it was aiight.. but I wasn't sold. I think there's been too many episodes to catch up with now". Then, one day a few weeks ago he asks if I ever seen Flash Forward. I'm like, yeah, it's a decent enough show but it's not great... definitely not on the level of Lost. The guy refuses to give lost an honest chance, but seems to love the hell out of flash forward and thinks its one of the best shows he's ever seen. *Big fucking sigh*...
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...how the hell is Desmond gonna get out the hatch? maybe Im not puttin 2+2 together, but wont his ass be in the hatch? I love hearin characters sayin other characters names (Mike wit Walt, Des wit Penny, Chawly wit DriveShift or whatever, John to Jack, Jack to John, Kate to Jack, Juliet to Jack, Kate to James, John to James, Sawyer to whatever nickname, Ben to Jacob, etc)...
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I keep forgetting about that.
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your friend has an ego problem. Try not to take it seriously. He won't understand that LOST is a serial, and EVERY episode is necessary. If you also told him "trust me, the plot thickens, the show develops, all this crazy stuff happens", he has a choice to trust you, or not. So far, doesn't sound like he wants to trust you. Maybe he's lazy. Maybe he's just like my HEROES friends who won't give LOST a chance. At your friend has better taste than my friends.
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If jughead went off, would there even BE a swan station?
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no Hatch needed in the ALT, because the incident didn't happen in the ALT. Also, Ben isn't on the island in the ALT, and I assume Widmore wasn't banished from the island in the ALT, to become Penny's father and eventually spurn Desmond on to sailing and getting shipwrecked on the island.
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...Im the same way...if Im two or three seasons behind, I dont watch it ie 24...(unless they run marathons on siffy (thats how I got into BSG))...but FF is good and doesnt take much brain power to watch...whereas Lost, the 1st 2 season (while good) kinda makes you angry cuz you dont know what the eff is goin on... believe me, I used to hate Lost (and used to vehemently defend Heroes...my how the tides have changed...even tho now Heroes is ok, but Im digressin) but after I seen the signal go off and Pennys people intercepted it, I became HOOKED for Lost...
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Jughead goes off-->no unpushed button by desmond that crashes 815 (plus a bunch of other ramifications)
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and should not have been read by women and children, nor the elderly or people with a serious medical condition. Consult your spoiler doctor before reading my spoiler.
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...see thats what Im lovin bout this new season, I DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK TO EXPECT (cept a lot of crazy shit)...I guess there will be no hatch, but I dunno... that whole time travel, incident, jughead, Ben killin his people is confusin me...I thought jughead goin off somehow correlated to Ben killin his people but I dunno... to many terms, groups, names, aliases, scientific formulas, etc to figure out... but im dyin to!
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But luckily I have had more successes than failures with getting friends into the show. One friend I got into it early on when I first got into it (during one of the long hiatuses in s1 after reading an article in a magazine... f'ing TV Guide now that I think about it!) gave up right after the mini pod of S3. He venomously hated those first 6 episodes of season 3 and never went back, even after I tried to explain that the rest of season 3 actually got good, and S4 was absolutely awesome, etc.
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Faraday, Charlotte, Artz, Edward (the US marshal), Frogurt, Greg Grunberg's pilot character, Rousseau, Mikhail (maybe not dead?, still bring him back), Bea Klugh, Goodwin, Mr.Friendly, Ben's Dad, Ethan, Ethan's mom (one who died in childbirth, Dr.Chang, Horace, Kelvin, Radzinsky, Matthew Abaddon, Naomi, Keamy, Anthony Cooper (Locke's Dad, killed by Sawyer), Rousseau, Alex, Alex's boyfriend.
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i think everythings gonna get reset n the last scene is gonna be them gettin off the plane in LA w/o anybody knowing each other
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EXACTLY! I don't know what the hell's going to happen and I'm loving it. WTF did the bomb do exactly? We don't know! It was supposed to cancel out the energy in the swan area that caused the incident (and then there's the theory that jughead + swan energe IS the incident, but shiiit, I just don't know, and I love it. Is it Groundhog Day yet?
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Cindy, Emma and Zach (2 kiddies, from the tail section), Annie, Ben's childhood friend, Gerald and Karen DeGroot, Bram
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That would take balls, seriously.
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...can someone (Im guessin Bilboe) answer some questions...
1. the incident is jughead goin off right? if so, if jughead didnt go off, we would have the 1st five seasons right?
2. the purge is what Ben did to his people right? if so, that happen in the 1st five seasons right? which leads the losties to the island to go back in time?
3. the hatch is where jughead was buried at right?
...wit those questions asked, my brain is now implodin (or explodin, dependin on what you think John did to the sub lol)... 4. Richard and his people buried jughead, hatch was made, losties came to island, losties then time traveled, then blow up jughead (in the hatch), and now here we are in the new season? is that right? -
...I forgot Faraday died...lol maybe I should go to Lostpedia... and I think those "how to for dumbies" need to make one for lost after everythin done so you can actually know what the hell just happened lol...AND HELL YEA, bring back Nicki and Pablo... if ya gonna bring dead people back and all this other crazy stuff, ya got to bring them back... just have them argue and then he walks off to take a dump... 8 seconds total!
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We don't know whether they caused the Incident or prevented it.
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With the newly resurrected Paulo taking a shit in the Jacob's lair!!
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The Incident, first mentioned by "Dr. Marvin Candle" in the Swan Orientation film ("Orientation"), was an electromagnetic anomaly that caused a catastrophic event at The Swan construction site. The Incident occurred on the fourth day following the Oceanic Six's return to the Island in July of 1977, when a drilling accident at the site of the Swan station unleashed a pocket of electromagnetic energy. While the Swan Station was originally being built to harness this energy, the DHARMA Initiative was forced to construct The Swan to contain the energy with large amounts of concrete, using the protocol to regulate the anomaly.
However, doubt has been cast on an electromagnetic anomaly being the cause of The Incident. It was briefly suggested by Miles that the survivors' plan to detonate the core of a hydrogen bomb (itself a fission bomb) at The Swan construction site might actually be the cause of The Incident, not the anomaly. Daniel Faraday suggested that detonating a nuclear device might prevent the electromagnetic anomaly, beginning a chain of events which ultimately results in Oceanic Flight 815 not crashing on The Island. His theory contradicted his earlier theory that events of the past cannot be altered. Currently, Miles's prediction remains a possibility, since the hydrogen bomb outcome is unclear.
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Were to announce that he couldn't do the SOTU at that time because he would be watching the 6th season premiere of Lost, it would make me smile.
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1. Maybe, we dont know yet whether the bomb going off prevented the incident, or caused it yet.
2. The purge is when ben used the poisonous gas in the tempest to kill the dharma folks, it happened around 1991, we've only seen it in a flashback.
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...that article makes sense...but at the same time it doesnt! not blaimin you or nothin, its just that I wont understand what the hell happened until THEY tell me or show me (or until one of YOU spoil it lol)... after readin that, its like the chicken or egg to me... cept now ya gotta throw in the fact a scientist went back in time to clone the chicken to get the egg that it was born from...
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they already settled it, obama's people moved it, and Cuse/Lindelof offered to answer any lost-related questions for him in return
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Holy fuck, looks like Obama's still pissed about Mr Ecko getting killed off...
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...will be done by Jacob/MIB? what kind of mindfuck would that be?
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...there would be more minorities on tv durin a state of the union address than a episode of the greatest show featurin a large cast of minorities... Rose, hang in there!
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sorry, thats what i meant, they were deciding between feb 2 and january 26 (i believe) and they eliminated 2/2 from the running, i dont know if that means they decided on the 26, but either way, its not interfering, and lindelof said on twitter if obama has any lost questions they'd gladly answer them. http://tinyurl.com/sotulost
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It dipped quite a bit during season three, which cost a lot of viewers. But since then it has only been getting better.
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Yeah it was going to be the 26th originally but then the administration wanted to give more time to the Senate to finalize the health care bill before the speech. So they threw out moving it to the following Tuesday, which happened to be the 2nd. But the admin has since said it will not be that date. It wasn't some bullshit Twitter campaign tha tchanged their minds. It was probably ABC basically telling them they wouldn't air the speech if it conflicted with its already highly marketed Lost 2-2 premiere.
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...to make a special SOTU that correlates to Lost... like he can talk bout healthcare and how Dharma is helpin out or somethin... that would be cool...
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Was he shown living with Rose & Bernard in the 70's? Or is he just roaming the island on his own right now.
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and love the shit outta it.
I can understand people not wanting to get on board now simply due to the amount of couch time required t oatch up with the story, I had the same problem convincing people to watch "Arrested Development", I told them they had to watch from minute one because the episodes aren't self contained, and they tend to set up jokes 3 episodes in advance. Alas, most of us know what happened to that show. I haven't got into 24 yet, but that's the show I'm buying after LOST finishes so I don't have to wait and buy the whole fucking show on Bluray and try to have some kind of assnumbing couchathon to try and catch up. Same deal with "Dexter". Watched a couple of eps, loved it, but haven't had the time or inclination to sit and watch them on the tube... just purchased season 1-3 on bluray.. god bless you ebay.
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No I'm not saying anything. I agree with you. The Feb. 2 date was something that was reported as a date the White House was considering. How valid that report was is in contention since the source seemed to be unclear. But traditionally the SOTU has always been the last week in January except for incoming President's who don't actually do a SOTU. so it stood to reason that if the admin wanted to delay it for Senate tht they would do it the following week to preserve the timing as much as possible. but you're right it was probably just lazy reporting.
I don't see how ABC could air both since it's a two hour premiere with an hour recap show preceding it. The SOTU can be brief but often it takes quite a long time, especially for newer President's and the incessant applauding that goes wit hthe SOTU. Showing a 3 hour Lost event starting between 9 and 10 is certainly something that would eat into ad revenue for the network and thus something they would discourage. -
Yes. Vincent was with Rose and Bernard in 1977.
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...all five seasons are available on Hulu.
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...you just made my heart hurt mentionin Arrested Development...I wish I had the insight to watch it from the beginning...I hopped on durin the Buster loses his hand saga ("IM A MONSTER!" or was it machine?)...ah, very good times (I still watch reruns if i can... I still crack up seein George Michaels photo next to Michaels bed)
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Not sure if it's 100% of 'em.
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Can anybody tell me if Charlie has been confirmed as one of the dead losties who will be returning for season 6? I know he made a cameo at Comicon, but is he definitely going to be back?
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From the filming that occurred today, I am inclined to say yes. I'll leave it at that.
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Not to say it wasn't a damn fine season of television. It was. But it bugged me that not ONE character argued the point that detonating a bomb would "cause" the thing they were trying to avoid. Not the physicist, not the intelligent soldier, not the doctor, not even the sci-fi geek. It doesn't even matter if they were right or not. (About resetting the timeline - from reports it looks like they did?) That NO ONE except Miles (at the very end of the season) considered the possibility bugs me to the point of distraction.
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...first of, let me say, screw you, GO TROY AIKMAN (that is if you are the football player, if not, disregard it)...but to your post, I dont get what you mean? is the "cause" you talkin bout the incident? Its been a while since I seen s5, but wit all the time travelin stuff, my memory of their timeline is hemorragin my brain...not tryin to flame your thoughts, just want a further understandin...GO COWBOYS!
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This is my name - I don't follow football. :) But yes, I mean the cause of the incident. The one we kept hearing about. Our "heroes" kept assuming the incident would only happen if they did nothing. Even if they were right, it really bugs me that they didn't consider the possibility (except Miles, who essentially called them stupid for not considering it).
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Daniel Faraday had some complicated explanation for why they could change history, but it sounded like a bunch of self-delusional hooey, even if he was right. No one called him on it; almost everyone took him at his word. They were more worried about the destructive power of the bomb than the paradoxical conundrums its potential detonation brought up.
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...since youre just a regular Steve, youre cool... but if ya see the other one, tell em how I feel...
...but I swore some of the characters like Kate and Sayid were against lettin jug go off...not sure, cant really remember...
...and I think they took Faradays word cuz theyre just tired of it all lol... they been thru a lot non-stop (survivin plane crashes, smoke monsters, polar bears, crazy natives, time travel, evil spirits, etc), so I guess they just accepted what Faraday says... besides, this is LOST, the show where characters make statements and dont ask questions lol... -
there is a scene between Miles and Hurley in either "some like it hoth" or "whatever happened happened" i beleive where miles makes the very argument that what they do is the incident based on idea of time traveling is whatever happened happened
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had to be done in January ... per the Constitution. Regardless, ABC ought to just say fuck off and counterprogram the Lost premiere. Do we really need to hear more Obama bullshit ?
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STEPDADDY: That's a good point. The Losties have never been good at asking questions, but after Season 3 they got much, much better at it.It's true that some were against setting off Jug, but their reasons seemed vaguely mired in the destructive nightmare it might produce, and not so much in the "possible fulfillment of paradox". i.e. they thought Faraday was crazy for wanting to blow shit up, but no one seemed to seriously consider the possible paradox.StuckInthePresent: Yes, that's the scene I referred to in my above post, where Miles says derisively, "What? You guys never considered this scenario?" It's a GREAT scene, but it came way too late in the season - right up against the finale, basically. And Hurley usually comes up with this stuff in his sleep.I guess the reason I'm making a big deal about this is the major question of the season - are they causing or preventing The Incident? - was never a hot football among the main characters. They never really had much time to consider or debate the question. And so as a viewer I kept going back and forth on whether or not it was supposed to be an issue at all.
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I too was bugged by their inability to question Faraday (and later Jack), in this whole Jughead plan. Miles NAILED it in that scene, but he was just met with "meh, whatever, let's do it anyway." I was also kinda peeved at Juliet's decisions throughout the course of the finale.
However, I wouldn't go so far as to say that the season was disappointing. We got the awesomeness that was Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham, the return of Eloise Hawking, Marvin Candle as a character, Ben's Dead is Dead episode, Ben vs. Desmond, and then Jacob vs. MIB.
FAR from a disappointing season, in my book. Still doesn't hold a candle to S4 (which I still contend is the greatest season of LOST). -
I don't believe that the Constitution strictly said January, but rather that the President would have to brief Congress as to the current state of the union once every year.
That being said, the SOTU is nearly ALWAYS in January. If I recall correctly, it was only postponed to February ONCE and that was because of the Challenger explosion.
Obama's ONLY reasoning for postponing the SOTU to February (a very rare thing to do) was to have it so that the Health Care Bill and Airport Security would be well behind him so that he could assuage increasing negativity regarding his administration.
From a political perspective, it makes sense. To quote Clear and Present Danger: "the only thing that this administration wants is what all first term administrations want: a second term." -
the movie he was going to make and direct WAS about his parents. the producers wanted him to do both. he chose not too. he was rumored to have gotten pretty pissed because he thought he was made to "choose" between both projects. thats why he was killed off so suddenly. he basically told them to go jump.
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You need to watch it again, because the idea of detonating Jughead from start to finish, takes place over less than 24 hours, not an entire season like you suggested. And the ONLY people who even knew about it, were Jack, Sayid, Kate, and the Other leadership. And they only found out about it a few minutes right before/after Faraday got shot. It was daytime there, could've been late afternoon. In fact, I'm saying its the same day, because Faraday came and woke Jack up early in the morning, and they went out to the Others not too long after that, when Faraday was shot. Then later, Sawyer and Juliet found out about it through Kate. Even as Hurley drove Jack and shot-Sayid to the Swan station, they really didn't know what was going on. Probably 30-60 mins after that, Miles came up with his "what if it's the bomb that sets the incident off??". Sayid, in the beginning of the ep, said "we have less than 2 hours to do this". So... no, people weren't missing an opportunity to think about it/debate it all season long.
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come out come out wherever you are!
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spinoff with "Freckles" in all kinds of revealing outfits. Thinking about this show makes my head hurt. I'm kinda dumb. I just watch for Kate's boobies.
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"the ALT" even happens.
I mean, we know that Daniel Faraday "always" gets them to try to detonate the bomb, which is why Faraday had already told Charlotte that she'll die if she goes back to the island. In other words, the whole bomb plot leads to the SAME future in which the plane crashes. So how is detonating the bomb supposed to create an alternate timeline? -
"the ALT" even happens.
I mean, we know that Daniel Faraday "always" gets them to try to detonate the bomb, which is why Faraday had already told Charlotte that she'll die if she goes back to the island. In other words, the whole bomb plot leads to the SAME future in which the plane crashes. So how is detonating the bomb supposed to create an alternate timeline? -
"the ALT" even happens.
I mean, we know that Daniel Faraday "always" gets them to try to detonate the bomb, which is why Faraday had already told Charlotte that she'll die if she goes back to the island. In other words, the whole bomb plot leads to the SAME future in which the plane crashes. So how is detonating the bomb supposed to create an alternate timeline? -
"the ALT" even happens.
I mean, we know that Daniel Faraday "always" gets them to try to detonate the bomb, which is why Faraday had already told Charlotte that she'll die if she goes back to the island. In other words, the whole bomb plot leads to the SAME future in which the plane crashes. So how is detonating the bomb supposed to create an alternate timeline? -
I don't know what the hell happened there, but sorry about that quintuple post.
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..and, here I thought you were just posting thematically to reflect the idea that the Losties have been "looping" through time like a broken record. ;)
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I thought I read somewhere - amaybe Dark UFO?- that Shannon was retuning for at least oen episode.
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this week on DarkUFO it was confirmed that Maggie Grace *STILL* hasn't shot anything. Doesn't mean she won't, though
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jus sayin...
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IIRC Hurley starts talking about how it's all very Back to the Future and wonders why his hand isn't disappearing or something, at which point Miles says something like "dummy! that's not how Time Travel works! it's still OUR present, even though it's everyone else's past!"
He basically argues that whatever happened happened (which is the title of the episode) - a thought echoed by Jack in the same ep - and although they're not actually talking about The Incident at this point, the implication is that MAYBE they cause things to happen but they sure as hell could never prevent them from happening...
so then Hurley says "ok, so how come Ben didn't recognise Sayid, who shot and nearly killed him in HIS past?"
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Ben didn't recognize Sayid because before taking Ben in to save him, Richard explained that he wouldn't remember anything about the incident. I don't know if his loss of the memory was psychological or having to do with some method that was used to heal him. That's irrelevant. The fact is that this question is answered. He doesn't remember, because his healing requires that he doesn't remember. Everything works out exactly as it should. Everything seems to be working towards the idea that "what happened, happened". So there should be NO way that detonating the bomb can stop the plane from crashing, if EVERYTHING indicates that events leading up to the detonation of the bomb are part of the SAME past which is consistent with the future in which the plane has crashed. MILES doesn't know why Ben forgot about being shot by Sayid. But WE know why Ben forgot about getting shot by Sayid. And the answer is ENTIRELY consistent with the notion that "what happened, happened".
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Amazing stuff. Really. Roll on season 3.
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(And probably am!)
Firstly, I thought that the plane that landed on the island minus the people that vanished of to 77 landed in the present but alternate reality BUT the runway probably would not have been built if the swan station explosion bomb plan worked so it would be safe to assume Sun, Illana, Ben, corpse Locke etc are in the original universe present Or maybe, just maybe the original universe at some point in the future (the distant future)!
Secondly, we know that the island people from 1977 (dharma and natives) onwards have influenced the lives of the main characters in small and sometimes large ways, after 1977, so, if the dharma people decide to leave the island (assuming they are even alive after the explosion or the anomaly thing in the ground destroyed thus Dharma decides not to continue with the island experiments) Marvin follows his wife and kid (miles) home for example pissed off with what those pesky future people did (to his arm, career etc) and decides to wait it out until 2003 and observe/influence the culprits as they grow up making sure they get on the oceanic flight from Sidney the same date as the original flight, (this would explain why in the Alt universe all/most the original cast are on the flight as it lands safely in LAX)oh fuck it I don’t know what s going on cant wait till February!!!!!!!!!
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He IS John Locke just from the Alt universe; just it was Charlie from the alt universe (different hair cut and clothes remember) when he appeared to Hurley at the start of season 4, just as it was Alt-Anna Lucia who appeared to Hurley when he sped through red light when he was saving unconscious Sayid.(she told him that Libby said hi also) Just as it was Alt-Boone who appeared to Locke during his sweat lodge cure idea in Season 3, (he also showed Locke a glimpse of the Alt universe then) Just as it was alt-Christian Shepard who appeared to Jack in season 1. All these ‘ghosts’ died in the original universe but are still alive in the alt-universe these alt-characters also had no memory of there island adventures until the moment their alt (our original versions) died on or (in the case of strangled lock) off the island) once that happens the still living alt-version has the memory of both timelines and grants them the ability to communicate with certain gifted people in the original timeline, as they are both alive and dead at the same time. It is still true that “whatever happened, happened”, the swan station did exist and bring down flight 815 it also didn’t exist and didn’t bring down flight 815, It is still true that “dead is dead” as characters that have died remain dead (see John Lockes still unanimated dead body).
My Guess is that Season 6 will concentrate on the nature of these 2 concurrent running realities, and the motives of the alive/dead characters.
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Reboot the show now.Nix filming/airing on of the last season.Inexplecbily make the show again, for no reason.To generate excitement and interest, tell the world it will be cast with 16 year olds, and will be a "re-imagining" of Lost.
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...you guys opinions, thoughts, etc but everytime I see alt I get confused... are you usin alt for the alt timeline (s6) or alt due to the time travelin from s5?
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The alternate reality is caused by the detonation of the bomb at the swan site causing 2 separate timelines. one where the bomb detonation causes the 'incident' forcing the darmaa people to include some kind of machine to take care of the energy buildup problem which has to be released every 108 minutes.So miles was right in a sense the losties actions DID cause the incident however the losties DID distroy the swan site creating and alternate history BOTH happened(happened!) confusing maybe?, entertaining for sure!!
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I never had the problem with wrapping my mind around the timeline paradoxes; the conversation between Miles and Hurley (the one indoors, not outdoors) helped a lot of viewers understand it, but it was retread for me. I'm glad it was there though, because it's the perfect example of the writers showing the viewership that they've worked out all the possibilities. So I was bothered by the characters' inability to understand the further Jughead Paradox.Billboe Fett, you make an interesting case for the Losties' Overall Lostness, but I'm not sure I buy your argument. Whether a couple weeks in real-time or 24 hours in "show time" - the "they didn't have time to think about it!" argument doesn't work for me, because Miles and Hurley were able to piece together paradox arguments in an afternoon. The density of the show's plotting has never stopped the writers from cramming a few weeks' worth of revelation and exposition into a "few island days" before; so at the end of S5, the audience had way too much breathing room to feel ahead of the characters. (Though I may just be speaking for myself here.) Miles stepped up at the end, but no one really listened to him, which was frustrating for people like me who were thinking it all along.
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I watched season one and season two on DVD a few years back. Season one was interesting. Season two started piling on the gimmicks, to the extent that the show became somewhat risible. I considered renting season three when it became available, but the desire just wasn't there. The show is a gimmick. It's always been a gimmick. It will always be a gimmick.
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I would have agreed with you two years ago , but they pulled it round , and for me , it's reclaimed it's throne. Your right in some respects , it would have been a lot stronger if it was only 3 or 4 seasons long (I can say that , I'm not an actor on the show , so they can't kill me off ,and give me the sack....)
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