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Pierre Morel To Direct DUNE!

Beaks here...

EW's Nicole Sperling is reporting that Paramount has hired Pierre Morel, the director of such rambunctious action flicks as DISTRICT B-13, TAKEN and the upcoming (and very goofy looking) FROM PARIS WITH LOVE, to call the shots on the studio's long-in-development adaptation of Frank Herbert's classic sci-fi novel DUNE. Morel will take over for Peter Berg, who left the project last October to focus on the more thematically complex likes of Milton Bradley's BATTLESHIP. Have fun with that. According to Sperling, Morel is planning to be "very faithful" to Herbert's text. Sounds great. But am I the only one a little troubled by Paramount's preference for directors who specialize in gritty, hand-held action? I certainly understand the studio's desire for a DUNE that looks and feels nothing like the two previous adaptations (Lynch's and Sci-Fi's), but I think I'd like something a bit more classical - more Lean than Greengrass. And maybe that's where Morel is going. It's far too early to tell at the moment. Paramount is currently looking for a new screenwriter to rework - under Morel's direction - the previous draft by QUANTUM OF SOLACE's Josh Zetumer. What kind of DUNE would you like to see?

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  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:12 p.m. CST


    by RedHorseVector

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:14 p.m. CST

    Prolly gonna suck.

    by Sardonic

    While Taken was entertaining, it was not a "good" movie.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:15 p.m. CST

    love me some dune.

    by RedHorseVector

    how about we find a real director for this, yo?

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:16 p.m. CST

    wow, sardonic. i almost said the exact same thing.

    by RedHorseVector

    at the last minute i shortened my comment, because brevity is... uh... witty or something.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:17 p.m. CST

    AGAIN?!? Aww C'mon....

    by Circean6

    Unless they are going to make the Jodorowsky/Giger version LET IT GO! Christ!

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:20 p.m. CST

    There must be some powerful Dune fans in Hollywood

    by Anything But Tangerines

    This is the adaptation that JUST WON'T DIE

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:21 p.m. CST


    by ltgalloway

    Its hard to imagine a "Borne Ultimatum" shaky cam version of Dune. The way it comes across in the book is more evocative of a sweeping epic. The rolling sand dunes, the aristocratic intrigue, and the religious overtones conjure up images that are more majestic for me personally. On the other hand, who's to say a new direction can't work? Will be interesting to see what comes of this news.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:22 p.m. CST

    Lynch did everything that needed to be done.

    by darwinmayflower

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:22 p.m. CST

    oh, and fuck the Sci-Fi version...

    by darwinmayflower

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:24 p.m. CST


    by Waka_Flocka_Flame

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Isn't Dune....

    by D o o d

    a small mp3 player...?

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:27 p.m. CST


    by D o o d

    I'm so with you on that. The film looked nice but it had many many flaws. How that girl got kidnapped by sex trafickers and came out the other end a virgin is beyond me!.......oh by the way, spoiler alert, it was a shit movie!

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:31 p.m. CST

    Not a very interesting choice...but could surprise us.

    by TheWaqman

    All he's made so far have been stylish action films with absolutely no substance (yes I loved Avatar, and I still think it had substance). But hey, maybe he could surprise us. Did anybody think Peter Jackson could handle LOTR after watching his low-budget (but entertaining) creature films?

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:33 p.m. CST


    by NippleEffect

    doesn't need another remake

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:34 p.m. CST

    it needs to be in 3D!!!

    by LabattsBleu

    sorry, had to be said...Dune is great, but i needs to be a trilogy in order to be faithful to its complexity...

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:35 p.m. CST

    I would like to see one that doesn't suck

    by Jaka

    No really, faithful but slightly less "weird" than Lynch's would be perfect, I think. Hard sci-fi, for sure.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah, and...

    by Jaka

    ...the spice, must flow!

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:38 p.m. CST

    Why 3rd time Dune?

    by lostbat

    Loved the Lynch version. There are so many potential franchises out there. We have the technical possibilities to bring some wonderful stories on screen: Jack Vance , Tanith Lee, George R. Martin, Terry Brooks etc...Hollywood go to your local bookshop. The truth is out there!!!!

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:38 p.m. CST

    Director And Screenwriter Not Encouraging

    by FreeBeer

    Need a visionary for this, but who knows, don't know enough about the director to completely write him off, but the script for Solace sucked. Fincher or Nolan or Ridley Scott or Spielberg would have rendered me excited.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:39 p.m. CST

    For faithful read FUBAR!

    by Gabba-UK

    There's been two attempts now to make the greatest scf-fi novel of time. It is. That is fact. End your internal discussion now. Neither came off well. Although Lynch's came the closest. But unless this is done as three films its just going to be a waste of time, effort and money.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:40 p.m. CST

    Does have Dune, have a really big geek following

    by Jamie McBain

    It's almost asking if a plant is green. The one sure fire way, to the question, is to simply ask the question, which was better, the original or the Sci-Fi Channel remake? Or ever better, the theatrical version or the director's cut, of the original, which is the best one to watch?

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:40 p.m. CST


    by Gozu

    I love the novel and the David Lynch version, warts and all. I can't imagine having the same feelings for a remake, but then again, I thought Tim Burton's "Batman" was definitive until "Dark Knight." I think Morel is more talented than Berg, though.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:41 p.m. CST

    Cast Christopher Lee as the Emperor

    by Prometeo

    And you've got me onboard :)

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:43 p.m. CST

    Peter Berg...

    by Hamish

    ...did Master and Commander right? If he brings the naval combat nous from that to Battleships, it might not suck.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:44 p.m. CST


    by Jaka

    Asimov's Foundation series and the Ender's Game are right up there for me as well. But it's hard to argue (too much) that Dune is the best.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:44 p.m. CST


    by TehCreepyThinMan

    With his post-Avatar clout, get Steven Soderbergh and Alex Garland to script it, hire Darren Aronofsky, Danny Boyle and Alfonso Cauron to Direct one movie each with the same cast/crew and shoot it in 3D. Get Alex McDowell to handle the Production Design, Clint Mansell/John Murphy on scoring duties and cast Chris Pine as Paul Atreides.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:44 p.m. CST

    the lumps of flem that I've been coughing up....

    by Gabba-UK

    this last week from this cold I've had are more talented than Berg.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:44 p.m. CST

    Isn't... whatever...

    by Jaka know what I meant, I'm assuming.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:45 p.m. CST

    By the way....

    by Jamie McBain

    I liked the original version, and the original cut of it. By the way, I am curious, who will play the Baron in the remake? I loved the over the top performance, done by Kenneth McMillan. It's one of the my favorite things about the original. That and the soundtrack.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:45 p.m. CST

    Well, I didn't need another DUNE anyway.

    by FlickaPoo

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:45 p.m. CST

    Never going to happen

    by Rubiks Doob

    Dune is a planet where directors die and movies go into turnaround...

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:46 p.m. CST

    And will it be in 3-D?

    by Jamie McBain

    Imagine the sheer awesomeness, of sand worms, in 3-D!

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:47 p.m. CST

    Peter Weir did Master and Commander

    by Gabba-UK

    But he'd be good for this too.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:47 p.m. CST

    dune needs an unlimited budget


  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:47 p.m. CST

    ...I enjoyed TAKEN, but he would need to improve 1000%...

    by FlickaPoo pull this off.<P>Good luck buddy. Seriously...good luck.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:49 p.m. CST

    The problem with the franchise concept..

    by Jaka

    ...which studios actually want these days, is that if the first film doesn't make gobs of money we'll be left with an incomplete story. It's going to take balls to get this done in the first place. That's why it's been in (re)development for so damn long. Getting a trilogy, or series of films beyond ONE, green lit before the first one has been successful just seems like a pipe dream.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:50 p.m. CST

    What kind of Dune do i want to see?

    by newc0253

    The uncut David Lynch version.<p> Failing that, Berg's version.<p> Certainly not the guy who directed Taken & definitely not one written by anyone involved in that shitburger called Quantum of Solace.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:52 p.m. CST

    ...I only want 3D blockbusters now. I'm like a Mogwai...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...that has eaten after midnight.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:52 p.m. CST

    sam worthington for paul

    by DarthBlart

    shia labeuf for the sand worm

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:52 p.m. CST

    Avatar 3D was pretty fucking good.

    by Dr. Samuel Loomis

    Just saying.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:53 p.m. CST

    ...newc0253, I agree. Uncircumcised Lynch plese.

    by FlickaPoo

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:54 p.m. CST

    "shia labeuf for the sand worm"

    by Jaka

    aaaaahaahaahahahahhaa (inhale) aahaahahahahahahaaaa

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:54 p.m. CST

    FlickaPoo, has a point....

    by Jamie McBain

    One needs to really, really great of a director to pull it off. Taken was ok, but somehow I can't imagine him doing really great at it. Best of luck, he'll need it.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:56 p.m. CST

    Peter Weir & Chris Pine

    by mrm1138

    First of all, I agree that Peter Weir would be an interesting choice. Second, Chris Pine is way too old to play Paul. He's only supposed to be about sixteen when the story begins and eighteen when it ends. I think they'd be better served by going with an unknown. I'm not jazzed about this decision. I wish the Neill Blomkamp rumor had panned out. Better yet, I wish someone from the future could go back in time and cure Ridley Scott's brother's cancer so he wouldn't die and Scott wouldn't quit the project.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Will we ever see the director's cut....

    by Jamie McBain

    As Lynch, intended, or is the version, on the two disc DVD, best chance we'll get to see it, in our lifetime?

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:57 p.m. CST

    HELL YEAH! Who the hell is Pierre Morel?

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Isn't Jodorowsky doing this?

    by SimonDunkle

    Either that or I need to refresh my screen more often. Seriously, they should use some of his and Mobious' original visual concepts for the design.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:59 p.m. CST


    by LT Weezie

    OH MY! ANOTHER REMAKE! I thought the first film was fine (although I remember that the theatre was handing out "cheat sheets" to those moviegoers who had ever read the books so they know what the heck was going on and who was who). I thought the mini-series, though well done and with much greater detail, was excellent, with the exception of Lady Jessica, who was poorly cast. Francesca Annis was absolutely regal and PERFECTION in the feature film! I don't know what else they can do with the franchise unless the make several films ala LORD OF THE RINGS. I guess we shall see soon enough.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8 p.m. CST

    ...will the Kwisatz Haderach have stinky pinky parkour...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...moves?<P>I thought DISTRICT B-13 was fun.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8 p.m. CST

    Cast of Lynch's Dune

    by Grand Moff Toht

    Lynch's cast was perfect beyond words. Some of the best character actors around at the time. Even Kyle MacLachlan fit the part. The one problem I had was Sting. Not strong-looking enough for Feyd. That was a mistake. But I don't think you can top the art direction/sets/costumes of the Lynch film. Whoever said this new version should be more David Lean than shaky cam, that's right on the money. No Shia, no Sam Worthington. Christopher Lee would be good. You may fire when ready.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Peter Weir

    by Octaveaeon

    I was hoping for Weir. Though I enjoyed Taken, the choice for Morel seems less about being faithful to Herbert's vision than about adapting it into an aesthetically pleasing action-adventure - a more marketable product. Though I'm willing to give Morel the benefit of the doubt, Paramount deserves only derision for the way its been handling Herbert's work.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Not against new Dune

    by Grand Moff Toht

    If they get a great cast together but more importantly if the script is awesome, then go ahead. Make it a close adaptation. The ideas in the story are what makes Dune great sci-fi. You're far too trusting.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:04 p.m. CST

    ...Grand Moff Toht, you are correct...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...about Lynch's DUNE. Only the story and editing had some troubles...cast, art direction...sets...effects (those cubist shields!) were perfection.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Liked the book...

    by Sicuv Uyall

    But anyone who loved the Lynch version had too much time on their hands.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:06 p.m. CST

    I kind of liked the casting of Sting, in the original.

    by Jamie McBain

    It took balls to do that, plus also having Toto, do the score for the film.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Oh great

    by blade_walker

    Another director that's into that shaky-cam, quick-edit bullshit. Dune deserves better.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:07 p.m. CST

    My Favourite Novel

    by hayt43

    Raped Again by Hacks! HACKS!!! Dune is far to nuanced and complex for film. The End!

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:09 p.m. CST


    by BlueHawaiiSurfer

    Need to have that first BIG project as well. Just cross your fingers, it's not like we don't have the 80's version to fall back on. I agree about Sting and Toto JM!

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:09 p.m. CST

    ...I liked Sting. I think we all agree the winged diaper...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...(henceforth referred to as the "Winged Freddie Mercury in honor of the mighty fallen) was a, but Sting was cool.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Hopefully it will be a hit, in the theatres.

    by Jamie McBain

    So that the rest of the series of books, can also be made as well.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:11 p.m. CST

    ...Jamie McBain, I assume you've read the other...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...books? Do you think there are movies in them?<P>They get pretty weird.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:12 p.m. CST

    I'm going to watch the movie now

    by Grand Moff Toht

    Lynch's. Not Sci-Fi miniseries. Looked too much like... a TV miniseries, I guess. I am aware of '84 Dune's flaws. I never said it was a perfect movie or even one of the greatest ever made. I make the personal distinction between movies that are great and ones that I just enjoy watching. Now, what shall we talk about.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:13 p.m. CST

    First! posters are not true Dune Fans!

    by eoneon

    Drink the water of life and perish! for you are a false messiah!

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:13 p.m. CST

    This would've been about the only Ridley Scott movie...

    by CountryBoy

    ... that would excite me. ALIEN and BLADE RUNNER are undying classics, while almost everything else he's done has been okay at best. Some talkbacker once ingeniously asked, "Why does BLADE RUNNER seem more authentic than AMERICAN GANGSTER?" And it really does. Maybe Scott should only do Sci-fi. In any case, his DUNE would really interest me. This guy, I dunno.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:14 p.m. CST least it's not Peter Berg anymore.

    by OutlawsDelejos

    His only good movie was Welcome to the Jungle, and even that isn't that good.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:14 p.m. CST

    The perfect director for DUNE was Sergio Leone

    by palimpsest

    Leave this alone and have Morel make ENDER'S GAME or something.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:14 p.m. CST

    That's the problem....

    by Jamie McBain

    Haven't read too much of the books, but from what I remember, the series does get progressivly weirder and complicated.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:15 p.m. CST

    Peter Weir

    by SmokingRobot

    could do 'Dune' justice.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:16 p.m. CST

    Dune 1984 worked great on Caladan...

    by zinc_chameleon

    The sets and costumes looked like they walked off the page, or more accurately the original woodcuts from Analog January 1964 (I had the original series). But I got a sinking feeling in my gut when they used those awful Guild Steersman and terrible models to get to Arrakis. After that, I tried hard to enjoy the movie, but I kept getting thrown out. 2010 CGI and someone who actually knows something about hand-to-hand fighting could really take this a long way. Paul Atreides, for all his mystical powers, is a very *physical* presence; more of a Jason Bourne type than anything I've seen on the screen so far.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:16 p.m. CST

    I also still think Mel Gibson would be great to direct it

    by CountryBoy

    It plays to all his obsessions: violence, religion, brutal environment, alternative civilizations... a dream project for Mel.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:17 p.m. CST

    "Feyd. Lovely Feyd."

    by Grand Moff Toht

    OK, Sting was good for the movie. I concede. Just wasn't what I pictured from the book, is all. And I thought the final knife fight was a little too slow. Not that I'd like to see it redone the way they shoot fights in today's movies - shaky cam, fast motion, slow motion, quick cuts. Sickening. Hope they make the new Dune old-school and straight from the page of the book. Haven't read the books beyond the first sequel, so I can't comment. Yes, I know you will.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:17 p.m. CST

    Somebody should have gotten to Ridley...

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    and convinced him he still has unfinished business.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:17 p.m. CST


    by Jamie McBain

    Did hit on the big problem with the Sci Fi Channel version, it look too much like a TV mini series. Imagine, what would Lord of The Rings, would have looked like done by Sci Fi Channel. Now that would have been, something else.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:18 p.m. CST

    ...they get progressively weirder and less fun...

    by FlickaPoo a geek I want to stick up for the less accessible stuff, but Herbert man....fuuuuuuuck!

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:19 p.m. CST

    George Miller perhaps

    by palimpsest

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:20 p.m. CST

    By the way, off topic....

    by Jamie McBain

    I made a discovery, Lord of The Rings, the animated version, will be on Blu Ray, pretty soon. Now I'm be both bored, and awestrunked by the film, on Blu Ray!

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:20 p.m. CST

    ...I wonder how many directors are itching to make a 3D...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...opus at this point...plunk their dicks right down next to Cameron's and break out the ruler...

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Re: Lynch's DUNE

    by ArmageddonProductions

    Lynch's DUNE had great production design and ... and ... well, that was about it. And it got a little crazy in spots, which is what we'd expect from Lynch and also what felt like "Hey, this movie is gonna suck, so we'd better have Kenneth McMillan drink blood and maybe stick Sting in some metal underpants to divert the audience's attention!". But the whole movie played like an ADD-addled Asian whore for whom English was a half-assed second language had explained to Lynch what the book was about, then Lynch sat down with some crayons and about half a page of blotter while listening to "Rosanna" over and over again and banged out the script. And, no, Kyle Maclachlan was a SHITTY choice for Paul Atreides, who was supposed to be fucking FIFTEEN, per the novel. In Lynch's movie, you kept wondering why Paul and his mom were about three years apart, age-wise. There were a few awesome casting decisions in that flick, but Maclachlan (and Sting) was definitely not one of them.</p><p> They got a lot closer to the book with the mini-series (and a miniseries is what it needed to be!), but they literally had a fourth of the original movie's budget (possibly a lot more, if you adjust for inflation and what-not) and William Hurt as the biggest name actor in the cast. And once again, Alec Newman was about five to seven years older than the character was supposed to be. The even-greater offender was that fucking "Children Of Dune", and while compressing "Heretics Of Dune" (which was pointless even in novel form) and "Children Of Dune" into one story was a decent idea, they copped out by making Paul's kids what appeared to be twenty years old (they were eight in the novel, that was what was so cool about it!) and especially by fucking up the awesome "sandtrout stillsuit" Leto made up to kick everybody's ass. And thanks to the lameness of that miniseries, we got no "God Emperor Of Dune" miniseries, probably the most awesome book of the series (we did, however, get a great spoof of "God Emperor" in an episode of, believe it or not "Billy & Mandy"). If they treat it like "Lord Of The Rings", maybe, and made DUNE the first one, compressed "Heretics" and "Children" into the second one and maybe kicked everybody's ass by making "God Emperor" the third one, it might be decent. Oh, who am I kidding? NEXT!

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Why does everyone like Peter Weir for this?

    by CountryBoy

    Has he ever made a decent action movie? I remember thinking during MASTER AND COMMANDER's battle scenes, "*I* could've directed this." It was like he just pointed the camera at a bunch of guys and said "Okay, fight!" What am I missing with this guy?

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:21 p.m. CST know Ridley wants to measure up before he dies.

    by FlickaPoo

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:22 p.m. CST

    ...Jamie McBain...weird...and cool, right?

    by FlickaPoo

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:22 p.m. CST

    It could worse guys.....

    by Jamie McBain

    I have only too words.... Uwe Boll.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:22 p.m. CST

    I can't agree with y'all about the orginal.

    by Jaka

    It's too much Lynch. Too weird for weird's sake. And the actual reading of the lines never felt right to me, regardless of the cast (which I also didn't really dig all that much). I did like Sting, though, so maybe it's me (shrug). Anyway, the way Lynch directed the actor just never felt or sounded the same way they did in my head when I read the books.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:23 p.m. CST

    Weird...and cool?

    by Jamie McBain

    Both, I guess.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:25 p.m. CST

    Give it back to Jodorowsky!

    by m_reporter

    PLEASE!!!<p> Anyone who read the issue of Empire from a few months back (one with Avatar cover) with the Dune special knows that this would be the best movie EVER MADE!!! <p> Well maybe not the best, but definitely one the most bizarre, deprived and insightful films ever. God damn it, he wanted to cast Orson Welles as Baron Vladimir Harkonnen and Salvador Dali as the Emperor Shaddam IV when the movie was in pre-production some 40 years ago. How fucking awesome is that?!

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:30 p.m. CST

    Look, the original Lynch project got a LOT right...

    by ScaryWaitress

    the feel and look of it was great. The Fremen were really cool. Max von Sydow was perfect... actually, most of the casting was kick-ass, and the landscapes- and the worms- actually, the LOOK of everything was EXACTLY how I pictured it in the books... but some of the choices sucked it hard. The Weirding Modules were a freaking joke, for example. The changes they made to the story were less than stellar. <P> My concern with this whole thing is that Dune needs to feel vast. Enormous. Bigger than Middle-Earth. I guess if Peter Jackson- who before LOTR, no one would have thought HE could pull off that trilogy- could do it, then this guy COULD. Maybe. <P> If someone could please make DUNE without trying to reinvent it, that would be nice.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:30 p.m. CST


    by Wookie_Weed

    I effing bet you they will, even though Herbert made it very clear in interviews what the spice represents (psychedelic consciousness, man...).

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:30 p.m. CST

    Totally awesome....

    by Jaka

    ...but they're both dead now. Just sayin'.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Jett is writing the screenplay!

    by Wookie_Weed

    He'll say he is in 1, 2, 3...

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:33 p.m. CST


    by frank cotton

    time to move on to something NEW

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:33 p.m. CST

    Shit... posted without rereading...

    by ScaryWaitress

    Kyle MacLachlan, while gorgeous and otherwise right, was too old... you called it, Armageddon.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:34 p.m. CST

    Mel Gibson - YES PLEASE!

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    Or how about Ridley, Cameron, Verbinski, Fincher, Jackson, Cuarón, Zwick, Weir, Fuqua, McTiernan, Bigelow, Verhoeven, Stone, Francis Lawrence, Zhang Yimou, Shekhar Kapur, Tarsem, Martin Campbell, George Miller, Stephen Hopkins, Kevin Reynolds, Wolfgang Petersen, Kevin Costner, Roland Emmerich...Alex Proyas...Ron Howard...John Moore...p> I just don't know what to make of Pierre Morel. Taken WAS pretty good I suppose. I think I'd like Jean Pierre-Juenet, Jean-François Richet, Florent Siri or Louis Leterrier better as far as Frenchmen go. Will Luc Besson be involved?

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:34 p.m. CST

    I was actually going to make that Peter Jackson...

    by Jaka

    ...point. But then I realized that I actually liked the movies PJ had made before the LOTR trilogy, too. I don't really care who the director and/or writer are. I think the points about it needing a HUGE budget, more than one film and a MASSIVE look/feel are more important. The casting would be my next issue. If they can get ALL OF THAT right and stick closely to the already brilliant story there really shouldn't be much to worry about. So what's the problem? I DON'T see any studio ever giving up the amount of money this will take to get right, or allowing for more than one film before production starts, or staying as close as possible to the already brilliant story. Historically, that's just not what they do.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:35 p.m. CST


    by frank cotton


  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Yes they're dead, but my point was...

    by m_reporter

    ... that Jodorowski's got balls to reach for the stars with his films. I'm sure if you gave it to him now he'd shoot just as high as he once did with this material. <p>Then again that might not be a good thing, since his over ambition was one of the reasons the movie fell apart. <p> But I look at it from a positive angle. If Jodo's Dune didn't fail, we'd never have Alien. That's a fact.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:40 p.m. CST

    Jaka, it's not a question of quality...

    by ScaryWaitress's a question of scale... but then, nothing Jackson had done before LOTR was anywhere near that scope. Could be the same with this guy... but I doubt it. Jackson wasn't just the director, he was a driving force in developing the script and production. He wasn't just hired on, like this guy. <P> I'm all for a Dune remake, if it's done by someone as obsessed with the material as Jackson was with Tolkein. I'm not feeling that here... and really, Dune has been half-assed enough already.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Many posts

    by Grand Moff Toht

    For a third time remake of a book from 1965. Laughing my ass off here at some of the posts though. Love it. I must admit, I don't know who Peter Berg or Pierre je ne sais pas are either. I think you overestimate their chances. Ciao, folks.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:42 p.m. CST

    MeatLoaf would be fucking perfect.

    by ScaryWaitress

    Except they'd have to keep him from singing. <P> [Baron Harkonnen floats in, stage right. Strings begin to play.] <P> "I would do anything for love, now milk that cat. OH YES, milk that cat!"

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:43 p.m. CST

    Will Luc Besson be involved?

    by m_reporter

    God, lets hope not. <p> I found Taken to be a terrible film and don't expect much from this "Dune" adaptation either. Hope I'll be surprised, the book was pretty damn good.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:46 p.m. CST

    "Dune has been half-assed enough already"

    by Jaka

    Agree 100%. In fact, after going through all the things we've already discussed in this talkback, I'm wondering if they shouldn't just let it go. Especially after your PJ observations. Because not only was PJ obsessed with getting LOTR right, but so was every other person he had working with him. The entire crew of writers, artists and crafts..uhh.. persons had a "we cannot screw this up" attitude. If Dune doesn't get the same treatment it WILL fail.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:50 p.m. CST

    Jaka... this time, we're on the same page.

    by ScaryWaitress

    Of course, they'll make it anyway. <P> Sigh.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:50 p.m. CST

    DUNE : Special Edition

    by Omniviant

    Hmmm... not sure how I feel about this director. Taken was enjoyable but not epic. For those of you interested I have been struggling away on a FANEDIT Special Edition of David Lynch's DUNE... with NEW special effects. You can check out the project at My blog... or view My animation tests over on youtube...

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:51 p.m. CST

    Why does it have to be plaesant?

    by m_reporter

    Actually, I'd prefer it if they made it a bit unsettling, these epics with "pleasant" backdrops are everywhere. Would be a welcome change to spice it up a bit (pardon the pun).

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:51 p.m. CST

    Adam Lambert will be Feyd.

    by ScaryWaitress

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Linda Hunt could still play the Shadout Mapes

    by ScaryWaitress

    She looks the same...

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:54 p.m. CST

    I want lots of cuddly creatures and product tie-ins.

    by ScoobySnack

    And I want to hear Baron Harkonnen say, "Cowabunga, dude!" That would rock the house.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:54 p.m. CST


    by redshirt

    Neither movie came close to catching the bad-assness of the Sardaukar from the book. I have always wanted to see a real fight between the Fremen and the Sardaukar. The Sardaukar got some serious points against the Fremen.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Speaking of casting

    by m_reporter

    I'm kinda looking forward to see how they fill the roles. I cant picture anyone as Paul at the moment. Or anyone else for that matter.<p> John Carrol Lynch as Baron Vladimir Harkonnen maybe? He might need to fatten up even more though, but hes a great actor.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:01 p.m. CST

    The main thing

    by Colin62

    Is making the people in the story who are professional killers look/act like professional killers. They've either been completely Bravo (Sci-fi) or limp Death Star extras(other movie). You can have the most visually spactacular movie ever, and its not going to work if the Sardukar look like Gilbert and Sullivan's version. Or if Mua'Dib looks like he's a Twilight cast member. I'm all for gritty, but the main thing is the characters making sense. The second thing is making the whole thing look quasi-plausable. Easier said than done but it starts with the characters. In Taken I believed the killers were killers (as opposed to Die Hard 4)so maybe this is a good start.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:01 p.m. CST

    Dune = Dull.

    by Chewtoy

    At least, that's the impression the studio has to fight, based on my impressions of the Sting movie. Most of the money to be made will be from people like me who never read the novel... While I don't condone dumbing it down, they definitely need a director who can make it look stirring and epic to get my butt in the seat.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:01 p.m. CST

    As long as they dont

    by Deviant Apex

    try to make it "enjoyable for all audiences." I absolutely hate it when films throw in unneccessary sight gags or plot points just so the average retarded american can comprehend whats going on in the movie. Take oLand of the Lost for example. I know the original was campy and cheesy as hell some times, but I honestly think it couldve had some potential. Now Im not saying this because I grew up watching the show or anything (Im actually a child of the ninties) I just honestly think if taken in a different direction and tweaked a little that it couldve been very successful, but they didnt and it absolutely wasnt. The same thing with Transformers. Cut out all the unneccessary shit and you have a decent 30 min. show that couldve replaced its shitty scenes with actual scenes of pure awesomeness. Anyway, I dont know a whole lot about Dune, but if last years films were any indication you might want to skip this.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Wow, Omniviant....

    by Jamie McBain

    So far, it looks awesome! Best of luck!

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Wow, Omniviant....

    by Jamie McBain

    So far, it looks awesome! Best of luck!

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Sorry, for the double post.

    by Jamie McBain

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:04 p.m. CST

    The only way to do Dune is as an HBO miniseries

    by ColonelFatheart

    Have David Simon and The Wire people write it to really get the political intrigue shit right, and if Tom McCarthy really nails A Game of Thrones, have him direct it.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:05 p.m. CST

    Joseph Gordon Levitt as Paul Atreides

    by ColonelFatheart

    DO IT!

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:06 p.m. CST

    Actually, reading some of the posts here...

    by ScaryWaitress

    I feel more strongly as though this is a bad idea. There is a feel to Dune that is really old-school sci-fi, as in schooled-in-science-from-45-years-ago sci-fi. This isn't sci-fi like Avatar (which today's crowds understand, and expect.) Dune was old-school to ALIEN audiences. This may be a worse idea than I thought.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Colonel... I almost said that...

    by ScaryWaitress

    and you KNOW I love me some JGL... but no. Just, no. <P> That is a real problem. NO ONE comes as close to looking like Paul as MacLachlan... and HE was too old.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:08 p.m. CST


    by ColonelFatheart

    You do make a good point. Remember, the last time they tried to adapt Dune, it was on the heels of another whiz-bang, game-changing, sci-fi adventure space opera ... and look how that turned out. That's why I maintain the only way to do this is in miniseries form ... but not like SyFy did it.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Fincher, Gibson and/or Costner

    by Jaka

    Actually struck me as decent choices up above there. Would never happen, though.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:11 p.m. CST

    Nah it can work as a movie for sure

    by m_reporter

    But it would be like a 3 hour movie to establish the story well and to be faithful to the themes of the book. Seriously, if they want to do it right they need a really great director behind this.<P> I agree with whoever said Peter Weir, he's a master of the craft who's proven himself able to wrangle a big studio picture, and still make it his own.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:14 p.m. CST




  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:15 p.m. CST

    Scary waitress

    by Six Demon Bag

    There are only a few obsessed enough to do this....ridley Cameron or Jackson. Of those three I'd be happy for ridley just cause it'd be a nice bookend to a wonderful career.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:17 p.m. CST

    Smells like Terminator Salvation to me!

    by Sgubs

    A text like this deserves nothing but the best. A visionary director. Taken was an okay movie made great by Liam Neeson(They should cast him for Dune!). I dont think this guy is up for for it. Lynch's Dune although controversial is a classic and has influenced many. How can anyone but a great director hope to top that vision. Maybe they should be looking to District 9 director Neil Blompkampf (spelling?)

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:18 p.m. CST

    Scary, that's what I meant by...

    by Jaka

    .."hard" sci-fi. It's not fantastical or escapist. It's dark and dirty and it believes itself to be "real". If that makes any kind of sense.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:19 p.m. CST

    And we need this....

    by Dead_Geek


  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:20 p.m. CST

    Didnt Ridley Scott Work on a film adaptation of Dune?

    by m_reporter

    Before his brother died, and then Lynch took over?

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:22 p.m. CST

    Cameron would actually be totally wrong for this

    by ScaryWaitress

    ... his trademark rhythm is too clean and pleasing. His pacing is great, but it feels too clean for Dune. <P> Team Ridley Scott, here. All the way.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:23 p.m. CST

    Mua'Deeb shit

    by DarfurOnTheRocks2

    Who cares about Dune?

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:24 p.m. CST


    by Prof_Ender

    And that's DUNE.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:25 p.m. CST

    Doesn't bode well for Dune!

    by planetran_fan

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:26 p.m. CST

    Ridley would be great! But...

    by Jaka

    ...I think he's past his crazy fightin' days and is far too intelligent to WANT to deal with something like this. Just a gut feeling, though. But the ease with which he can get projects done with Russel Crowe makes dealing The Dune Headache seem really unattractive.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:27 p.m. CST


    by ScaryWaitress

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:28 p.m. CST

    A quicker pace than other versions would help.

    by kabong

    I like Lynch's version, but there is a stateliness to much of the Duniverse that doesn't grab audiences. <P> Picking up the pace would be my hope. (No, I don't want hand-held jitterbugging.)

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:30 p.m. CST

    I needs to be epic

    by nicegoogly

    Love or hate Lynch's vision of Dune, it was fuckin' epic. The Shite-Fi version was retarded. Both chose to trim down the Benne Gesserit litany, but at least Lynch's kept the really good parts. Sci-Fi fucked up Kwizarda Haderack for fuck's sake. The worm effects are hideous in the movie, yes. I still love every minute of it. It turned me on to the books, which is the truest science fiction you will ever read. Fantastic prose, a scary vocabulary and a complex plot that speaks to all political parties, races and religions. Back to the movie, even the weirding modules were a nice touch. Getting released around the same time as Return of the Jedi and all the Star Wars hype, they needed their lightsabers. It was a great way of translating the weirding way (along with the voice, it was actually more of a martial art). I am not one of those purists that say no remakes, but it must be worthwhile. LOTR was taken seriously. Now we are taking a classic and dumbing it down.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:31 p.m. CST

    I much preferred Shia LaDork...

    by Jaka the sandworm.... all of them, actually.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Dune has not one likable character.

    by cookylamoo

    I always root for the sandworm to have them for lunch.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:33 p.m. CST


    by ScaryWaitress

    your complaint is MY complaint about any good or great work of fantasy/sci-fi fiction adapted to a movie. It was my complaint with Harry Potter (yes, all of them) and it was my one complaint with LOTR... it feels as though, when people start adapting "sacred texts" to the big screen, the sheer weight of fans' expectations drags the speed down. Lots of long shots and pregnant pauses that feel wrong. Too much gravitas. <P> It's too much to ask, though, that they get the look right AND not fuck with the story AND make a really good MOVIE, not just an adaptation of a work of fiction.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:41 p.m. CST

    I actually like alot of the characters from Dune (the book)

    by m_reporter

    Especially Paul. I find his arc heartbreaking. He starts off as a very bright but somewhat distant kid and by the end he's turned in to a demi-god and almost completely dehumanized. And the relationships between the characters are so layered that I personally can't help but empathize with Paul. <p> Also the villains where great, especially the baron and Feyd.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Isn't Dune just Lawrence of Arabia in Space?

    by ColonelFatheart

    You know, like Avatar is Dances with Smurfs??? I keed, I keed.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:45 p.m. CST

    "Dune Again 3D!"

    by daggor

    The Th3rD time's the charm™! You're welcome.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:47 p.m. CST

    Actualle, Dune in 3-D might be the only way...

    by ScaryWaitress

    to relay the sheer vastness. That's not the worst idea I've heard tonight.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:48 p.m. CST


    by Jaka

    With HP I can simply accept that they are two different views of the same world right up until film five (especially with films 1-3, though). But books five and six became some sort of SUPER glossy action films (really, re-watch them all and I think you'll see what I mean). Book six, the slimmest since the second, I believe, cost $250 million dollars to make? Whaaaat?! I don't see $250 million up there AT ALL. Anyway, that's a (slight) digression. My point is really, that from film 1-4, I could live with the minor changes, the "long shots and pregnant pauses". Because I just accepted that I was viewing the "scenes" in the books from a different perspective. I lost the ability to do that with films five and six, though.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:52 p.m. CST

    Luc Beeson because Fifth Element is awesome

    by UGG

    It needs a european director to give it a baroque feel

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:53 p.m. CST

    Dune needs to be done in 3D, Cameron's way

    by ColonelFatheart

    Imagine the depth of field. Arrakis would melt brains.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:56 p.m. CST

    DUNE is its own worst enemy.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    The fact that this property has already been done twice (each time to mixed results), means that this new version (if it ever hits the screen) will have to be a 10 on every conceivable level (i.e. more than just a CGI/FX showcase) in order to justify its existence. I wish Morel well.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:57 p.m. CST

    I usually hate when other people do this..

    by Jaka

    ...and on top of that I'm stealing it from where somebody else did it in another talkback. But people are actually reading this one at present... soooo... The Hobbit casting call

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:58 p.m. CST

    See, the pregnant pauses KILLED me.

    by ScaryWaitress

    I had read the books over and over... I KNEW they weren't going to get my version on the screen, I accepted that. I figured the least they could do was make kick-ass movies out of them... but they sucked the life out of them. It was like watching a series of still-shots strung together. Drove me INSANE. <P> I love the books, so really, I didn't need the movies. I didn't see any after Order of the Phoenix, and I'm not going to... I wouldn't have seen THAT if it wasn't the only thing playing at the IMAX theater where we were staying that weekend. The pacing was just one of many problems I had with them. <P> It does seem endemic of books made into movies, though. LOTR was slightly better, but had the same problem.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:58 p.m. CST

    Harry potter and dune

    by Six Demon Bag

    Dune just screams vastness and epic. Harry potter not so much. Granted I like the films and they get the job done but compared to the books they are readers digest versions. <p>if the studio is willing to try for a third time they need to get it right and that means big.... As is in scope. Otherwise you're wasting my time.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Sure, as long as Cameron doesn't write it.

    by ScaryWaitress

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:59 p.m. CST

    As much as I would like....

    by Almega

    to see Dune translated correctly into a film (and I really liked Lynch's uncut version), I just think that the story is too complicated to be translated correctly. SO much important detail in the book.... too little time to show it all.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:59 p.m. CST

    David Lynch's version was terrible

    by MurderMostFowl

    Seriously folks, how can you sit through it. Are you so starved for someone to tell the story that you accept that garbage? I know it was heavily edited and all, but even without it... the acting with the exception of a few people is soooo bad. I can't believe Patrick Stewart ever got another acting gig.<BR><BR> The Sci Fi channel version is only slightly better in terms of forgivability since they did have a TV budget and all, but the acting was stellar apart from the one chick in Children of Dune that obviously was somebody's girlfriend at the studio. She was awful.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 9:59 p.m. CST

    It should echo David Lean...

    by the grim reader

    ...who was planning to direct it anyway, back in the day. Once you've watched Lawrence of Arabia, it's hard to imagine Dune without practical sets, on-location photography, and immense character development. I'm not holding my breath, but should Paramount need another director...

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 10:02 p.m. CST


    by Jaka

    I'm glad at least one other person feels the same way I do about the acting in that film.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 10:03 p.m. CST

    This is one giant stimulus pkg...

    by ScaryWaitress

    ... for everyone who gets a job on this set. Except without the benefits to the community at the end. <P> Please, you bastards... prove me wrong. Come on... put some egg on my face. Fucking pwn me. <P> On that note I'm out. Nite y'all.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 10:05 p.m. CST

    Oh no, I agree... the acting in Lynch's was BAAAAD.

    by ScaryWaitress

    TERRIBLE. <P> But it LOOKED great... and everyone LOOKED right. Well, except Sting, but I love him so I don't care... HE actually got the mood right, anyway.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 10:08 p.m. CST

    Scary, I'm not trying to jack the Dune thread...

    by Jaka

    ...but I think LOTR worked better because there are actually long pregnant pauses in those books. Tolkien goes off on describing lineage, or flora and fauna, or that hill over there, or language, or the view from the veranda, for PAGES at a time. That's not a dis, either. The top shelf of my bookcase contains ONLY Tolkien, the Harry Potter books and every Neil Gaiman hardback I've been able to get my hands on. I love Tolkien dearly as my grandfather used to read the books to me when I was FAR too young to understand what was actually going on (and then, much later, gave me those books). But there is certainly more of a need for standing around (pausing) as the story catches up to the character in Tolkien than there is in HP. Regarding HP, as I said, loved films 1-3, like film 4, deal with films 5-6, just want to see the last two because I'm attached to watching the actors (not the characters) grow up.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 10:08 p.m. CST

    Ian McNeice

    by TheHumanBeingAndFish

    Maybe they can get Ian McNeice again for Baron Harkonnen? He was great in the miniseries.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Lynch's version

    by ColonelFatheart

    As much as this pains me to say this, his version is fucking unbearable. I worship at Lynch's altar, too. The man can just about do no wrong in my eyes. Shit, I even love Wild at Heart and Lost Highway, two of his lesser-respected works, but Dune is just a catastrophe. The acting was awful, and the goddamn thing was just one flat frame after the next. Boring and painful.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 10:09 p.m. CST


    by Jaka

    ... nite then. Until next time!... or, something...

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 10:11 p.m. CST


    by uberman

    Sub-par predictable bullshit movie does not inspire any confidence in this guy doing DUNE.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Dune is impenetrable

    by Manatee

    Can't we all just agree that Herbert's source material is too dense for a worthy cinematic adaptation and move on?

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Stop it already!

    by Omar B

    I've already gotten to the point where I've accepted that any adaptation of Dune will be sub-standard to awful. To me Dune is like Stranger In A Strange Land, it's just hard to get all that magic down on film. I still say Tarsem should do it though, as far as I'm concerned after watching the desert scenes in The Fall, he's the guy.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 10:35 p.m. CST

    Eraserhead 3D!

    by Dr. Samuel Loomis

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 10:38 p.m. CST

    Lynch and Lean

    by Zenslinger

    Wasn't Lynch's Dune (which I loved) pretty David Lean already? I don't care how many versions they make -- I can probably appreciate something out of each. I'm pretty into the book so the film versions don't really replace it for me. But it's hard to imagine shaky-cam Dune, that's for sure.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 10:38 p.m. CST


    by Omniviant

    Thanks for taking time to check out My work Jamie McBain! DUNE was David Lynch's first color film. He also admits (The video is on youtube) that he, in his own words "SOLD OUT" on DUNE... ie he started making compromises from the word go. Ultimately the final theatrical cut was I believe completed by Rafaella DeLaurentiis... which is why it is such a discombobulated mess... The extended TV version, while reincorporating much of the deleted material was reassembled by people who had NO IDEA what they were really working on and made a giant mess of it. Also they filmed in Mexico at Charrubusco studios, which at the time was barely standing. While they managed to get some decent acting talent (YES! I LIKE the actors... especially when compared to the SyFy mini-series version... Patrick Stewart, Dean Stockwell, Max Von Sydow, Jurgen Prochnow NOT cast as a bad guy!)... I also like the serious "adult" tone to the movie. They had constant problems with Mexican customs. They built the biggest blue screen in the world and it was burnt down before it could be used. The LA effects house they were using was too expensive and they had to make their own FX down at Charubusco. Jurgen Prochnow was almost killed by an exploding lamp and was finally injured by that green gas that comes out of his face - suffering 2nd degree burns. The assistant director (I think it was) accidentally fell down that cliff that Paul falls down in the movie while checking out the set and was almost killed. Heck - make a movie about making the movie! LOL Anyways - I think one of the reason I like the movie so much - even though it is nowhere near as good as it could be - is that there is NOTHING that looks or sounds like it.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 11:06 p.m. CST

    I enjoy Lynch's Dune for what it is...

    by blade_walker

    A crazy sci-fi fever-dream. It's like watching Star Wars while tripping your balls off on acid. Lynch may have "sold out," but it's still one of the most insanely bat-shit movies ever to get a big-budget greenlight from a major studio.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 11:15 p.m. CST

    Oh boy... ANOTHER REMAKE

    by We_like_it_VERY_MUCH

    Are we ever going to see another original property every again?

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 11:20 p.m. CST

    Roland Emmerich

    by Gene_Parmesan

    I want to see a sandworm swallow the fucking White House.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 11:22 p.m. CST

    Lynch's dune is brilliant!

    by Sgubs

    Lynch's Dune although tampered with, and flawed, it was still brilliant and one of my favourite scifi movies. I put it next to Star Wars, Blade Runner and Alien. Unfortunately Lynch was never able to dumb down his work on his own. His most mainstream films eg. Elephant Man and Mullholland Drive are still insanely weird! I would find it difficult to watch a remake unless it was really well made and tried something different.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 11:24 p.m. CST

    Too bad David Lean isn't alive.

    by Amadeo Zeller

    He'd have the perfect eye to shoot Dune.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 11:31 p.m. CST

    One thing though...

    by Gozu

    The novel actually has a lot of action and Paul and the Fremin utilize the "weirding way" a form of hand to hand combat, not the "weirding module" in Lynch's film, so taking an action-oriented approach isn't totally out of left-field.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 11:32 p.m. CST

    Just leave it alone...

    by br1947

    Dune is never going to be made as a faithful adaptation, there's just too much that goes on with scheming, internal monologue and narrative. Lynch did probably the best that anyone can hope for. I enjoyed his version, but it was just the action of the novel, not the deeper subject matter that Herbert delved into. It's just one that can't be done right. At least it's not Michael Bay, i'll take solace in that.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 11:40 p.m. CST


    by We_like_it_VERY_MUCH

    Just took a look at your blog. Fuuuuuck man, you're going all out, haha. Good work! Can't wait to see how it comes out.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 11:43 p.m. CST

    Lynch's Dune

    by Cobbio

    I tried watching the Lynch version of "Dune" a few months ago and was embarrassed by its lameness. David Lynch is generally a good director, in my opinion, but this was one of his low points.<p> God, it was horrible.<p> Had to force myself not to shut off the television. SciFi's version, despite its shortcomings, was infinitely more interesting and watchable.<p> Maybe Morel will surprise us.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 11:54 p.m. CST

    Another remake.....

    by blackflowerX

    I can't sit through another remake , even the last terminator film felt a totally unoriginal rehash.... Maybe it will be wonderful , but the first Dune was so perfect (well apart from Sting)I really don't see the point.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 11:55 p.m. CST


    by Raymar

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 11:57 p.m. CST

    Get Everett McGill on the phone!

    by NippleEffect

    doods been slackin long enough

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 12:09 a.m. CST

    Tarsem Singh

    by chaplinatemyshoe

    I think he could get the best bang for your buck if given the reigns to this type of property.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 12:14 a.m. CST

    The first time I heard my Dad say "Fuck!" was in Dune.

    by The Dawgfan

    As in,"what the fuck is this shit? Who the fuck thought this was good enough for me to spend $4 to sit through this shit?!?" Of course, he hadn't read any of the books like I had at the time, but right then, when he said that, I was wondering if it were just me...

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 12:14 a.m. CST

    i love dune but something troubles me

    by nodeathforyou

    in this article i can only fixate on one thing are they really making a battleship movie based on the game i mean thats the worse idea i have read since reading about the karate kid remake i dont even know what to think about hollywood anymore

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 12:14 a.m. CST

    Donald Sutherland as Lady Jessica!

    by PurityOfEssence

    Its time to "re-imagine" this story with an all male cast.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 12:26 a.m. CST

    I agree with UGG

    by ewokstew

    They should have gone with or at least considered Besson.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 12:27 a.m. CST

    Ridley would be awesome but

    by tradeskilz

    as someone earlier pointed out, why would he? He can make whatever he fucking wants and he has a pocket A-list actor (Crowe) that will star in it.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 12:54 a.m. CST

    Good directors don't play it safe!

    by RedJester

    Ridley should make it BECAUSE he can make whatever he wants AND has several A list actors who would be willing to star in it. I expect directors the stature of Ridley to want to make movies of this caliber because he can, not shy away from them. If you don't want to direct the best movie you are able to at any given moment, then I'm sorry but you're not a good director in my book.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 1:11 a.m. CST

    Fuck it...

    by Harold-Sherbort

    Give it to Paul Thomas Anderson. Yeah, him or Blomkamp.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 1:15 a.m. CST

    I'd rather have no Dune movie at all.

    by foreverguardian

    As a big science fiction fan and reader, who is usually thrilled by any news about books being adapted for the screen, this time I can't help but feel that it's time to just give up on Dune. Its concept just doesn't translate well. Whoever makes it, the film will probably come across as hokey and have fans frothing at the mouth and critics laughing their arses off. For once, I'd love it if this particular film never gets made. Maybe once someone makes Harlan Ellison's script of 'I, Robot' there'll be some hope for adapting SF classics properly. The new 'Dune' and the forthcoming 'Foundation' make me really nervous.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 1:17 a.m. CST

    The one thing about Dune...

    by Kurgan

    ...I have always wondered about is the fact that the book reads very visually. And still neither of the two attempts have used the book descriptions of scenes. Say, the introduction of Baron Harkonnen, with the man himself in shadows, only a hand playing around with the Arrakis model. Or the very beginning, with the Reverend Mother coming to the Atreides castle on Caladan in the storm. And Duncan Idaho's last stand should finally get the treatment it deserves -- the man took down *SEVENTEEN* Sardaukar (you find out the actual number in one of the later books).

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 1:27 a.m. CST

    Faithful to the novels?

    by conspiracy

    So I can expect several 3 hour films?</p><p>Really...hasn't making Dune been tried several time already? Ya know...not EVERY book makes for a great movie...somethings just do not translate well.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 1:31 a.m. CST

    "They're down on this floor somehwere!"

    by Omniviant

    I still want to make a CG model of late great actor Richard Jordan (Who was considerably better in the role than the two iterations in the SyFy series - but not exactly book acurate), so I could extend that cool scene where he dives into all the Sardaukar to rescue Paul before being killed by a slow pellet stunner. Ridley Scott as I'm sure has been mentioned by now WAS working on DUNE in 1991/92 when his older brother died. It had a profound effect on Ridley and he departed the project ultimately ending up doing Blade Runner instead. Would be nice to see him return to sci-fi... but please for the love of goodness NO MORE ALIEN films (At least til everyone gets over their boring colonial marine fetish... Jim Cameron already did that movie!).

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 1:45 a.m. CST

    Consumed with anger whenever I see the name "Beaks"

    by MattmanReturns

    Bring It On over Dark Knight. -shakes uncontrollably-

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 1:57 a.m. CST

    Just watched trailer of From Paris With Love

    by Julius Dithers

    No fucking way, Pierre. John Travolta got owned by Chloe Moretz.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2 a.m. CST

    Dune Cannot Be Done.

    by bueno_bob

    It's really that simple - Dune cannot be properly filmed. You can either get the cast right, as Lynch did, or you can get an involved (if inaccurate) story with shit effects where they're all obviously standing around in sandboxes (as Sci Fi did). Sorry kids, but as a life long fan of the novels, Frank Herbert simply created a novel unfilmable by any human means. NO MAN OR WOMAN ALIVE CAN DO DUNE PROPERLY. NONE. For starters, they'd have to cast a 15 year old to play Paul Atreides, and no studio, producer or director has the balls to do that, nor is there any 15 year old actor working today who's a talented enough actor to pull off the role.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:02 a.m. CST


    by thedarklinglord

    Unless Paramount has the balls to release an almost 4-hour epic - I'm talking fucking old school, maybe with an Intermission so moviegoers have an opportunity to empty their tiny little girl bladders because this bitch ain't over and we're not cutting an hour and a half just so you can more easily digest the experience, you fucking pussy! - there's no point in making another Dune adaptation. Unless they're going to sell the rights to HBO and have them make it into a better (and more adult) miniseries than that Sci-Fi shitfest. There's simply no way to make a Dune movie that's faithful to and respectful of the novel in an audience friendly 2-and-a-half hours or less.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:03 a.m. CST

    bueno_bob, Lynch didn

    by MattmanReturns

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:06 a.m. CST

    Lemme try that again... bueno_bob

    by MattmanReturns

    Lynch got the cast right? Kyle MacLachlan isn't exactly a bundle of personality. In fact I'd say he was the Sam Worthington of his day.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:08 a.m. CST

    What's so great about Dune??

    by JettL93sFather

    Please explain

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:09 a.m. CST

    frank cotton

    by bueno_bob

    Hey, it's NOT just me! I've been thinking Meat Loaf would make the perfect Vladimir Harkonnen for years now...

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:10 a.m. CST


    by bueno_bob

    Christopher Lee as Shaddam Corrino IV? I can dig that too...

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:10 a.m. CST

    Dune was a poor man's Hyperion

    by JettL93sFather

    Deal with that shit sci-fi nerds

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:11 a.m. CST

    Hyperion > Dune

    by JettL93sFather

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:11 a.m. CST


    by bueno_bob

    A: It's one of the best fucking science fiction stories ever written, and one of the best fucking science fiction series as well. Explained.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:12 a.m. CST


    by bueno_bob

    LMAO. You oughta try reading it sometime then.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:12 a.m. CST

    Yep Hyperion was kind of shit

    by JettL93sFather

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:13 a.m. CST

    JettL93sFather, give it a read

    by MattmanReturns

    It's very involving, epic sci-fi with complex characters and a very dense plot. If you're into that sort of thing, it's worth a read.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:15 a.m. CST

    "Deal with that shit sci-fi nerds"

    by MattmanReturns

    Oh, nevermind. I thought you were asking a serious question.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:15 a.m. CST


    by bueno_bob

    Anybody claiming to be any kind of science fiction fan and talking shit about Dune is obviously nothing of the sort and needs his membership card revoked with all haste.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:18 a.m. CST

    bueno_bob, no kidding

    by MattmanReturns

    It's like a fantasy fan trashing Lord of the Rings. Also, I doubt this guy even read the book.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:18 a.m. CST

    Dan Simmons is probably the best writer of his generation

    by blakindigo

    "Hyperion" is remarkable.<br><br>"Dune" by Frank Herbert is extraordinary.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:23 a.m. CST


    by bueno_bob

    Truth. Now, if he's talking about the shitfest that Kevin J. Anderson has been forcing Brian Herbert to slap his name on every year, then that would be another story...

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:36 a.m. CST

    Just finished the book

    by hank quinlan

    for the first time literally two days ago. Although hampered by some mid 20th century space opera creakiness in the first 150 pages or so...really takes off as the book everyone claims it to be. Captures the imagination. And I do think there is a movie in there that could be faithful in spirit at least and be a great adventure epic. I don't see how anyone could watch the first 20 minutes and last 5 minutes of Taken and think this guy has much grasp of complexity. Certainly not a sense that he could make a giant LOTR epic trilogy. Could always be wrong. Im not a huge Rings fan. But I am a Jackson fan and I knew when they handed it to him, he could make that leap. As someone who JUST came to this universe, I'm a little sad to see this is who they chose. I hope no movie gets made rather then a Watchmen style well intentioned debacle.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:39 a.m. CST

    bueno_bob, Kevin J. Anderson

    by MattmanReturns

    Yeah I haven't bothered with any of his stuff, even though I've been tempted from time to time. My Dune experience begins and ends with Frank Herbert.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:40 a.m. CST

    Dune isn't Sci Fi

    by NippleEffect

    it's Space Opera<br> That takes place mostly on planets

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:45 a.m. CST

    "Dune isn't Sci Fi"

    by MattmanReturns

    Hmm, then I wonder why you can only find it in the 'sci-fi' section? space opera is still sci-fi. It's just epic sci-fi.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 3:04 a.m. CST

    initially, this is a little worrying

    by Ecto-1

    I've watched Disrict 13 and Taken and really enjoyed them both. However, they were just your usual action flicks, nothing more. So I'm a little doubtfull that he's got the chops to handle Dune but it would be very nice indeed to be proven wrong. If this gets fucked up I'll be incredibly pissed off, as we'll probably have to wait another 20 years or so to see another big screen take on this material.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 3:15 a.m. CST

    Wasn't he going to film Taken 2?

    by ricarleite2

    The director of Taken... doing Dune. Right. I mean, I'd go for Spike Jonze, but still...

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 3:19 a.m. CST

    Better then that hack Peter Berg

    by AsimovLives

    So, yeah, it's good news. Besides, the french really love and respect Dune. Dune is the type of SF that the french are very good at and love. At least the new director will have a good level of respectfullness to it which i doubt Mr Action Peter Berg would even dream of.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 3:20 a.m. CST

    Hope it doesn't suck...

    by Motoko Kusanagi


  • Jan. 5, 2010, 3:53 a.m. CST

    Why Hollyhood keep on trying with Dune?

    by AsimovLives

    The answer is simple: FRANCHISE POTENTIAL. And considering how many books Frank herbert wrote about the Dune universe, and that his son is still writing them, you can see that for Hollywood Dune has a enourmous franchise potential appeal.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 4:04 a.m. CST

    D13 had good parkour but that was it. Taken was weak.

    by Damien Chowder

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 4:05 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    Again, i have to point out, at least it's not Michael Bay wannabe Mr Shallow Ass Action Peter Berg, he from that bullshit HandInCock Big willy vehicle movie fame.<br<And if you guys have having many doubts about Pierre Morel, let me just point out that in the hands of a lesser hack like Peter Berg, TAKEN would had been an insufferable dumb stupid bullshit movie. But Morel with Liam Neesen mannaged to put some class and elegance to what in all sense would be just a banal actioneer. So, excuse me if i actually consider the new director for the Dune project to be a good thing.<br><br>And fuck Peter Berg up his fucking ass. Yeah, you go make the Battleship movie, hackface! Fucking ass!

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 4:10 a.m. CST

    You people crack me up.

    by Crashbang

    You people all really seem to HATE movies. The director of the film has just been announced and I think Sardonic sums up the sentiment of Aint it Cool News' community with 'prolly gonna suck'. Awesome. I love coming here to bask in the well of negativity directed at EVERYTHING, regardless of context, shape or form - you people are the original douchebag haters and you all deserve yourselves. I rank you all equal to Youtube commenters, I do hope you take that as the insult it was intended to be.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 4:10 a.m. CST

    Taken was not weak

    by AsimovLives

    That movie quite suprised me. It's a far better movie then it has any right to be. A truly effective action movie which doesn't even look and feel dumb. Which, in this day and age, is quite an achievement in itself.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 4:11 a.m. CST

    Lynch's cast wasn't all that

    by Kurgan

    I mean, Patrick Stewart should have played Thufir Hawat the Mentat Assassin, not Gurney Halleck. McLachlan was all kinds of wrong, etc.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 4:31 a.m. CST


    by Shoegeezer

    Sure you could probably do the plot on film, but so much of the book deals with people reading into the way they are told things. The words that come out of a character's mouth are dissected for inflection and tone, etc, usually what they are saying is the opposite of what they mean. To do this clearly would need some remarkable acting and a deft and detail obsessed director (or they'd have to stick in loads of voice overs which wouldn't work). I do love the look and mood of the Lynch version, I think it's one of the most visually stunning and crafted movies ever.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 4:31 a.m. CST


    by Shoegeezer

    Sure you could probably do the plot on film, but so much of the book deals with people reading into the way they are told things. The words that come out of a character's mouth are dissected for inflection and tone, etc, usually what they are saying is the opposite of what they mean. To do this clearly would need some remarkable acting and a deft and detail obsessed director (or they'd have to stick in loads of voice overs which wouldn't work). I do love the look and mood of the Lynch version, I think it's one of the most visually stunning and crafted movies ever.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 4:36 a.m. CST

    Time to remake Batman Begins and TDK in 3-D

    by NippleEffect


  • Jan. 5, 2010, 4:39 a.m. CST

    Visually Lynch movie is the best

    by tomimt

    At least from my opinion. I like the set and costume design of the movie. And the Dune theme is great as well.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 4:59 a.m. CST

    Dune tv series was supposed to true to source.

    by Damien Chowder

    but it was not as good as Lynch's bastard offspring. So being true to source isn't always a good thing. 99% of the time yeah but not in this case.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 5 a.m. CST

    Very tough job

    by kurgan1

    Dune is an absolutely superb book one of the very best science fiction novels of all time and a work of literature in it's own right. The world(s) and society it so lavishly creates are so far removed from our own and so 'alien' that to truly recreate it on the big screen will be very hard and not necessarily that palatable to Joe Public. I wish the project well but without much expectation - Lynch's was a noble and interesting failure.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 5:09 a.m. CST

    People said Lord of the Rings couldn't be filmed

    by MattmanReturns

    It can be done. Rings was probably the most daunting adaptation any filmmaker could take on, and they did it. A 3 hour Dune could easily work, if they focus on all the right stuff. It doesn't have to be exact to be good.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 5:11 a.m. CST

    Dune TV series had decent characterizations

    by MattmanReturns

    but the sets were so cheesy that it killed the whole thing. Those damn cardboard backgrounds are just too distracting. Children of Dune was actually a much prettier production, so I enjoyed it much more. Maybe I'm superficial, but I need realistic looking sets in order to suspend my disbelief.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 5:20 a.m. CST

    Give it to almodovar!

    by judasthered

    All the female leads would be played by sassy trannies and drag queens. With the exception of lady Jessica of course who would be played by Penelope Cruz and the reverend mother who would be played by Chus Lampreave...

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 5:27 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    Lynch is probably the only director on the face of the earth that could do anything with Dune, and he made his version 26 years ago. <p> And the TV version may have been more faithful but it was appallingly acted and directed. Lynch's Dune is the only version worth discussing.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 5:28 a.m. CST

    D U N E

    by kwisatzhaderach

    From the director of Taken and the writer of Quantum of Solace.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 5:59 a.m. CST

    How about Francis Lawrence, from a script by Akiva Goldsman?

    by TheNorthlander

    Starring either Will Smith or Keanu Reeves?

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 6:24 a.m. CST


    by ricarleite2

    You said it, my fellow portuguese-speaking friend from oeverseas.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 6:25 a.m. CST

    Bene Gesserit

    by DammitJanet

    Loved the books - have read the series countless of times due to the rich tapestry created by Herbert. PLEASE! Let the writer read the bloody book and get the Bene Gesserit right at least. Weirding modules - uh, no! The whole point of the exercise was to show how Paul's intensive prana bindu training / result of breeding program by the Sisterhood resulted in slightly 'different' humans - stronger / faster + more aware. That becomes clearer in later books.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 6:34 a.m. CST

    ...this talkback alone has used up any desire I had...

    by FlickaPoo see more DUNE on screen. I love DUNE, but just leave it alone for a few decades...I just got my DUNE card punched again tonight and I'm good for a while...

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 6:36 a.m. CST

    I would like one with musical numbers

    by Diagnostic

    Since you asked.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 6:36 a.m. CST

    ...I can see the temptation of course, what with the...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...oil/Middle-East etc...etc..etc...angles to a director you'd have dreams of making it the first Iraq war movie people will finally show up in a theater for...

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 6:37 a.m. CST

    Tarsem would've been a better choice.

    by Dingbatty

    wHollyweird sucks.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 6:40 a.m. CST

    ...Diagnostic, in another talkback we came up with...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...the idea of mashing DUNE with a biopic of Freddie Mercury. Turns out Freddie is the Kwisatz HadeROCK! and the story takes place on ArROCKis. The music would be by the surviving members of Queen...the main song being an homage to We Will Rock You with thumpers as the big drum intro...

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 6:47 a.m. CST


    by artaxerxes

    Stunning work. I take issue with adding blue eyes to those whose spice addiction is *hidden*. Piter and the Navigators (and Reverend Mothers!) hide their spice addiction. The contact lenses come loose from the Guild personnel only during the climatic battle between Paul and Feyd. It is Paul's insight that the universe hangs on Spice... "He who controls the spice!"

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 6:55 a.m. CST


    by quicksilver80

    Directed by Quentin Tarantino, with a script from Orci and it

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 7:04 a.m. CST

    I've slept on it now...

    by Gabba-UK

    And come to the conclusion that Dune is unfilmable. Even if they got a PJ obsessed style director, a half billion budget and three movies to just tell the first book, modern audiances just wouldn't go for it. It really is old school sci-fi, dealing with big ideas on a grand scale within a long timeframe. Today's ADD riddled MTV generation just ain't gonna click with it. I've wanted a true to the book movie of Dune most of my life. The time is not right for it and sadly I don't think it ever will be.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 7:07 a.m. CST


    by quicksilver80

    Would you imagine filming God Emperor of Dune? That'd be like making a movie of the Socratic Dialogues.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 7:10 a.m. CST

    ...quicksilver. I'd like to hear a sample of that Tarantino...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...DUNE dialogue. I'm making breakfast, don't have time...I'm sure you can whip something to imdb with you!

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 7:18 a.m. CST

    Wish 'em Luck

    by Jmacq

    But it'll probably fall flat. I just don't see any studio giving this project the commitment it'd need to be done right. If there were some way to meld the best aspects of the Lynch version (The production values and aesthetic) with the good parts of the Sci-Fi Miniseries (More developed story), you'd be about as close to a perfect "Dune" movie as you could ever hope to get.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 7:19 a.m. CST

    fuck this

    by notkinski

    already. do something new you assbags.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 7:30 a.m. CST


    by quicksilver80

    "One of the most fucked up moments in a boy's life is when he realizes he can't share his parents love for each other, not that he wants to bang his mom, mind you...what the fuck was I talking about?" Paul Muad'Dib

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 7:30 a.m. CST

    Weak I know

    by quicksilver80

    Couldn't come up with anything better, gotta work!

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 7:31 a.m. CST

    Tarsem would be a great choice

    by ColonelFatheart

    Or, fuck it, Mel Gibson.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 7:35 a.m. CST

    Dune? Again? Really?

    by AsimovDiedOfAIDS

    That's right Hollywood. Keep going back to the same dried-up well over and over again, and keep effing it up each time. Remember the first one turned David Lynch in Alan Smithee when he took his name off the credits. Yeah, despite your rosy memories, it really was that bad! As far as science fiction goes, I'd rather see an adaptation of Gibson's Neuromancer. Sure it'll be a royal f*ck up, but at least they'd be f*cking up something new(er) for a change.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 7:36 a.m. CST

    ...I'm laughing...I was just going to do the old word...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...substitution game. You know, something about shoving your spice in a woman's holiest of holies or some such...or "getting the good wife buys shit".

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Duncan Jones has been floating that

    by Dingbatty

    he would like a crack at Neuromancer.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Must be Epic!

    by Hot_Nikks

    I'd love to see it as Laurence of Arabia with great FX.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 7:54 a.m. CST

    Liam Neeson as Duke Leto

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    That is all.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 8:18 a.m. CST

    How to do Dune

    by Mono

    1) Keep all of David Lynch's design work. Don't even hire new designers. Port Lynch's designs straight over. (Well, you'll need a few to create the things Lynch left out, like Ornithopters, but their work should be based on the 1984 film. The designs were beautiful.) 2) Hire a lead writer who actually understands and will be faithful to these novels, J. Michael Straczynski or Neil Gaiman. Many of the scripts will be word-for-word from the book, with reasonable extrapolations and variations which seem to flow naturally from the source material. 3) Hire a real director to work with the writer to craft the form of each season. I don't know who-- but stay away from the John Harrisons and Mick Garrisons of the world. Andrew Dominik or Alfonso Cuaron. He won't direct the individual episodes, but he'll create a kind of cinematic visual arc--a bible for the television directors to follow, based on a careful reading of the novels which are to be the basis of each season. 4) Make a television show. Not a movie, not a mini-series. A show. 22 episodes a year. Season one is Dune. Season two is Messiah and Children of Dune. Season 3 is God Emperor. Season 4 is heretics and Chapterhouse. Season 5 is whatever book was written to "finish" the series by whoever wrote it. A) Stop. B) If it's been wildly successful and the studio wants to keep the Dune cashpump flowing, you reset, here. Now you have to do new design work, hire a new cast, etc. And you go back in time, and Season 6 begins as an adaptation of the Kevin J. Anderson/Herbert's kid prequel series. And you do another 5 years of that. Then you stop. For real. No more.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 8:25 a.m. CST

    How to do Paragraphs

    by TheNorthlander

    < p > but without spaces.

  • After seeing all of the failures to truly capture the magic of good to great genre novels on the large and small screen (like either version of Dune or the evisceration of Ursula LeGuin's "Earthsea" by Skiffy). I'm very, very glad that some of my favorite books aren't the kind of thing that most movie makers would touch with a 10-meter-cattleprod. Back on subject though, I wouldn't mind seeing a Del Toro take on Dune....

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Never happen, but CARY JOJI FUKUNAGA

    by CountryBoy

    ... would also be good, I *think*. He's apparently going from SIN NOMBRE to JANE EYRE, so he has range...

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 8:39 a.m. CST

    I'd also like Kevin Costner, actually.

    by CountryBoy

    OPEN RANGE is one of my favorite movies of all time, with a great apocalyptic gunfight that engulfs a whole town. And Costner has that occasional sci-fi itch...

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 8:40 a.m. CST

    I'd still prefer Mel though

    by CountryBoy

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 8:55 a.m. CST

    Thanks Northlander

    by Mono

    Now that you mention it, it seems pretty obvious. :)

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 9:04 a.m. CST

    We all know this is gonna suck

    by Klytus_I.m_Bored

    They'll undoubtedly put the cast of The Jersey Shore in this and make it a CGI headache-inducing nightmare. Fuck this.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 9:04 a.m. CST

    A Dune film series would be hard to pull off

    by I_Snake_Plissken

    I saw Dune in theaters prior to reading the books – at the time I thought it was bizarre but fairly entertaining. Over the years, it’s grown to be a film I rather enjoy. As for the books, I stopped reading after the fourth book in the series. The original Dune is a masterpiece, an amazing mix of epic storytelling, adventure, political intrigue etc, but then the books drop in quality fairly quickly (and the letdown is harsh, especially since nothing much happens in the 2nd book). It’s hard to maintain interest in a storyline when all of a sudden characters are mutating and living hundreds of years in the future. Based on what it would take to render the Dune world on film (and the limited franchise potential) I don’t see why studios would bother with a remake. If somebody wants to take a run at making some good classic Sci-fi (without Will Smith) I’d like to see somebody try The Forever War, Footfall, Rendezvous with Rama, or the long rumored Ender’s Game.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Not too confident...

    by Marshal_Lannes

    ...that a third movie version of one of the most esteemed books in Science Fiction is really going to bring anything at all to the put me down for a well considered "meh."

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Doesn't sound good.

    by _Maltheus_

    <p>I would have watched any Dune remake, save for something done in Greengrass style. After Bourne 3, I won't watch that shaky cam, quick edit bullshit ever again.</p> <p>Interesting to hear they may do Neuromancer. After Fight Club, I think Fincher would be best for that though. Don't know who Duncan Jones is.</p> <p>As for The Forever War, it was once reported that Ridley Scott would be doing that, but I don't expect we'll ever seen it. That would probably be the best book to make a movie out of, provided it had a decent epic like director.</p> <p>And I'm shocked that they didn't capitalize on the Harry Potter craze with Ender's Game. That would clean up at the theater, no doubt in my mind. Hard to find that many good child actors though.</p>

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 9:45 a.m. CST

    The Sci-Fi Channel is the only one to do it right

    by Sithdan

    And that took three days worth of television viewing. A two-hour Dune feature just isn't possible unless they make it a trilogy or something. Lynch's film was interesting, but it wasn't Herbert's novel.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 9:59 a.m. CST

    The problem with franchising the Dune series...

    by bueno_bob the same problem that Sci Fi ran into. After Children of Dune, it would get extremely hard to film. 90% of God Emperor of Dune is watching (reading) Leto II play word games with Moneo, Siona and the latest Duncan Idaho while the rest of the universe lives in a love/hate relationship with the way his government steamrolls over EVERY aspect of the universe. There's not a lot of action. And with Duncan being the ONLY "original" character left by the time of Heretics and Chapterhouse, it would be a very hard sell to an audience already attached to a core set of Atreides, Harkonnens, Corrinos and Fremen. If Dune itself is unfilmable, as I truly suspect, anything after Children of Dune isn't even worth an effort.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 10:04 a.m. CST

    On top of that...

    by bueno_bob

    I'd want to see it cast appropriately for once. That means a 15 year old Paul Atreides who can be made up to look 12 years older or at least convincingly recast for Messiah and Children, 9 year olds playing Leto II and Ghanima...if it's going to be done, it should be done as close to the source as possible and that means that Atreides CHILDREN are the movers and shakers of the universe...not Atreides 20-something CW castoffs...

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 10:04 a.m. CST

    How to do DUNE.

    by DoctorWho?

    Don't.<p> Read the books and be far more gratified.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Oh, and...

    by bueno_bob

    For anybody wondering, Kevin J. Anderson has raped the corpse of Frank Herbert and done so with Brian Herbert's approval. Kevin J. Anderson is a hack; I've read more compelling, intelligent and attention grabbing stories in my toilet bowl after a long night at P.F. Changs...

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    Did you guys hear about the NBA thug

    by Subtitles_Off

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  • Jan. 5, 2010, 10:52 a.m. CST

    What's the point of this?

    by Breotan

    As far as faithful adaptations go, the miniseries was pretty much taken straight out of the book. Does Hollywood really need to send cameramen out to get yet another panoramic shot of open desert? Toss Stargate or Lawrence of Arabia into your blu-ray player instead. You'll be better off.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Qune: Dune/Queen mash up

    by HarryCalder

    It simply must be made...

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Better choices for directors:

    by Trenox

    Neill Blomkamp, Darren Aranofsky or Chris Cunningham would all be way more interesting choices but I am already getting a bad vibe from the studio deciding that we need Dune (which we do) and then go and hire some stooge to manage it. It should be directed by someone who takes the initiative to do it (like Jackson/lotr) and has a passion for it. It shouldnt just be a paycheck job like it's shaping up to be atm..

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 11:04 a.m. CST


    by Kathleen_Turner_Overdrive

    Sand worms: Rosie O'donnell. Paul: Charlie from Always sunny in Philadelphia. Feyd: Gilbert Godfrey. Alia: Jurgen Prochnow in drag kneeling on his shoes. Rabban: Kevin James. Giaus Helen Mohiam: Rhea Perlman. Lady Jessica: Eddie Murphy in drag. Stilgar: Eddie Murphy. Barron Harkonnen: Eddie Murphy in fat suit. Gurney: Eddie Murphy (doing a patrick stewart impersonation) ---All other parts to be played by eddie murphy.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Good points, ScaryWaitress..

    by zinc_chameleon

    but...the Dune novel had features that were game-changing in 1965: real combat (described blow-by-blow); flipped-out drugs; flipped-out religions (about a dozen!); ecological warfare; and finally a genetically-engineered Messiah. Normal stuff for 2010.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Off topic, but if you own shares in Kodak...

    by V'Shael

    Sell them quickly. <p> It's just hitting some of the more technical news channels and sites now, but Kodak FrameChannel products are F*CKED in a major way. <p> Kodak shares are gonna fall HARD after this mess. <p> Look for the story about the frames on to see what I mean... <p> Damn, I don't like mentioning other sites on AICN... but I've been here years, and it's the first time I've ever posted an off-topic FYI like this... Back to usual talkbacking now...

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 11:49 a.m. CST

    ..... wait, WHAT?!?!

    by Marksman230591

    Seriously? Ok, don't get me wrong, District B13 and Taken were badass movies, but... I'm not sure if Pierre will be able to do justice to a very worldly loved sci-fi classic like Dune.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Give Dune the Wiz treatment!

    by ColonelFatheart

    Make it mostly black cast, get some Obama lookalike kid to be Paul, and bam! Timely and unique! You know it to be true.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Like others have said...

    by Orbots Commander

    I liked Taken; it was a cool, retro action flick, but I'm not sure how that same director can pull off something like Dune, which is more of a character piece science fiction flick. The screenplay would need to be superb, and would need a big time writer.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Genndy Tartakovsky

    by 12characters

    'nuff said.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 12:17 p.m. CST

    How many DUNEs do we need?

    by CherryValance

    Sheesh. Not having read the books I do really like the movie DUNE by David Lynch. Love that style. The SciFi one was okay. But if I recall the people who didn't like Lynch's adaptation didn't like that either so I don't get the need to keep trying.</p> <p>I did like DISTRICT 13 but I didn't think it looked very nice. Do we have a word for whatever that look is where they either put too much color in or take too much out? I don't know what it is exactly, but I'd like it if things would go back to looking the way they do in real life. So I can't imagine I'll find much of a purpose for this, since Lynch's is so lovely to look at. </p>

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Sci-fi Dune faithful to the books?

    by Kurgan

    Wait, what?! Perhaps on some abstract level... but it can be done so much more faithfully.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 1:14 p.m. CST

    The only good I can hope for out of this...

    by Phimseto that, to build up hype for the new version, someone finally puts the money up to have Lynch do a mega blu-ray and put together that four hour cut that people have requested since the days of laserdiscs.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 1:22 p.m. CST

    If one movie really deserves a special edition treatment

    by ObiBen

    ...It's Lynch's Dune. Remaster it, tactfully fix the shoddy effects (no stupid CG robot slapstick, please) and I'll buy that for 2$!

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 1:24 p.m. CST


    by slone13

    They should do the National Lampoon parody instead.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 1:39 p.m. CST


    by NoHubris

    Great suggestion. DUNE as a series structured the way you outlined it would be the ROME of science fiction. It'd be perfect for HBO IMHO.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 1:43 p.m. CST


    by TheNorthlander

    Yeah you'd think there'd be enough footage shot of Lynch's Dune to make a Final Cut Blade Runner style and then release a 5 disc blu-ray set of all versions known to man in Hi Def, right?<p> I would love to see a better edit of that film!

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Of course Hollywood wants to adapt it

    by fastcars

    Dune is the sci-fi equivalent of Lord of the Rings. If they can pull off a kick-ass Dune, they can do Dune Messiah, Children of Dune, God Emperor of Dune, Heretics of Dune and Chapterhouse Dune. And then, if they want, they can adapt the crappy 10,000 Son of Frank Herbert Fan Fiction books. It's a big franchise, with a lot of potential for money. The only way it won't work is if they Golden Compass it - shit on everything that worked in the book in favor of something more idiotic and cliched, I mean, "audience friendly." That said, a Dune movie in 3D, pulled off right, would be all kinds of badass. Can't wait.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:24 p.m. CST

    I don't want this film.

    by Kontarsky

    As much as I liked Taken, naah. No Dune film is going to be worth a crap and I'm sure Piter and the Fenrings will be miscast. f-it, situation is just like Potter films and Sherlock Holmes.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:39 p.m. CST


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  • Jan. 5, 2010, 2:39 p.m. CST

    AICN champions the director of HANCOCK

    by reflecto

    I'll take anyone good at this point and Hancock was not.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Shoutout Mapes, yo

    by Simpsonian

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 3:09 p.m. CST

    CountryBoy, yeah Costner's sci-fi has worked out great so far

    by MattmanReturns

    Waterworld. Postman. His hair-piece.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Film a book that hasn't been done yet

    by crashedastronaut

    I vote for 'Sirens of Titan'. First time I've ever posted.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Remember when Spielberg...

    by ROBRAM89

    ...passed on making a Foundation movie to direct Space Invaders? No? Because it didn't fucking happen. Peter Berg is showing his high aims here.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 3:35 p.m. CST

    i preferred the miniseries

    by oisin5199

    despite the fake sets and sketchy accents, there were some really interesting ideas behind the lighting design if you watch the dvd. I thought it was a waaay more faithful adaptation than Lynch's. And ArmageddonProductions, they compressed Dune Messiah and Children of Dune, not Heretics of Dune. After Children of Dune, what SciFi should have done was create a weekly series in the post God Emperor world - where Arrakis is mostly green with a small patch of desert left. Chronicle the events of Heretics and Chapterhouse and beyond, with flashbacks to the God Emperor era. Maybe some cameos from the 2 miniseries, or get James McAvoy to do some CG work as the God Emperor. This way you can keep the universe alive, tell new stories, but still build on the miniseries. But like everything else, SciFi channel totally dropped the ball. Now they're SyFy.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Peter Berg sucks

    by ColonelFatheart

    There, I said it.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Didn't they already make this movie?

    by strosmer

    How can you make the same movie twice? It doesn't make any sense. It's blowing my mind! (head swells up Scanners-style and explodes)

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 4 p.m. CST


    by strosmer

    Totally fucking with you on Sirens of Titan movie! As I read that book, cinematic lollipops danced in my head. I also call for a long overdue film adaptation of Stranger in a Strange Land.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 4:03 p.m. CST

    i guess i shoulda said sugarplums instead of lollipops

    by strosmer

    aw, fuck it

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 4:06 p.m. CST

    LOTR and Watchmen were considered unfilmable

    by Jaka

    Take from that what you will. However, for something that's supposedly unfilmable (Dune), I'm pretty sure I've already seen it filmed twice.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 4:07 p.m. CST


    by Zahaladeen

    How in the sweet, holy fuck do you go from Taken to DUNE?! "Look mom! I took the MCATS! I'm going to conduct open heart surgery on dad now with a potato peeler!" Dune isn't a spare production ala Cloverfield with Michael J. Fox and a fucking hand-held, it's a sweeping fuck-off huge cinematic extravaganza that you spend not $10mill on, you dump $100mill on it and find the likes of Cameron or Spielberg then back up a Brinks truck on to their front lawn. FUCK YOU PARAMOUNT. WHOMEVER GREEN-LIT THIS ATROCIOUS PIECE OF SHIT SHOULD BE FED INTO A FUCKING WOOD-CHIPPER. CONGRATULATIONS, YOU'RE RUINING DUNE YOU NO-TALENT ASSHATS.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Sirens of Titan

    by ColonelFatheart

    Yes, yes, yes. That would be terrific. As for Stranger in a Strange Land, isn't that just a ripoff of the Jesus myth, like Avatar was a ripoff of Dances With Wolves? Why aren't the haters all over that one?

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Sure it's a ripoff, but it'd still make an awesome flick

    by strosmer

    Sirens of Titan would be my preference though. In fact, I'd love to see more screen adaptations of Vonnegutt's work period. Cat's Cradle would be amazing too, IMHO.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 4:29 p.m. CST


    by ColonelFatheart

    I'm not ragging on Stranger in a Strange Land. It would make a lovely movie. I like when artists/authors/filmmakers wear their influences on their sleeve. Spielberg has pretty much said Indy is James Bond blended with Clark Gable mixed with matinee heroes. I'm busting on the Avatar haters.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 4:32 p.m. CST

    I think there's a Cat's Cradle movie in the works, actually

    by ColonelFatheart

    DiCaprio has the rights or some such thing.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Ah, sorry, Colonel - misread ya there

    by strosmer

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Looks like Spidey 4 is in trouble

    by conspiracy</p><p>I don't care what the studio says...pushing this back so close to production, and with no viable script in place smells of dead on arrival.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Spidey 4

    by ColonelFatheart

    Yeah, just saw that. Can't say I'm heartbroken by the news. I would really like Raimi to move on to something else.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Cats Cradle with DiCaprio?

    by crashedastronaut

    That's ok, but only if they have Tom Waits as Bokonon

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 5:54 p.m. CST

    I'm surprised anybody says "unfilmable!" anymore

    by MattmanReturns

    Sorry, but anything's filmable. Hell, HBO is making Game of Thrones.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Really, I can think of only one man....

    by aclockworkgalaxy

    and that would be Darren Aronofsky. I'm a huge fan of Cameron, Jackson, Spielberg, Cuarón, and Blomkamp, but Aronofsky's ability to create atmosphere and draw powerful performances would make him my #1 pick.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 6:17 p.m. CST

    There are other books to adapted....

    by ZodNotGod

    WHY are they stuck on the first goddamn novel? "Children of Dune," was a fantastic start- MOVE FORWARD from there!

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 6:18 p.m. CST


    by ZodNotGod

    And yes, Ridley Scott could nail it so good.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Again I put Drew Barrymore's hat in the running

    by JeanGrey_X23_lesboSex

    Ms. Barrymore should have directed the Hurt Locker and we could have called it Ellen Page's Pink locker

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 6:37 p.m. CST

    From Paris with Love

    by Sgubs

    Have you seen the trailer for this directors new movie "From Paris with Love?" It looks crap!!!! It stars John Travolta in an action type movie. He has a bald head and goatie. How can this guy direct dune? He will turn it into a cheap piece of rubbish!!!!

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 6:46 p.m. CST

    ZodNotGod, cuz they need to get the first one right

    by MattmanReturns

    before they can move onto the next ones.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 7:01 p.m. CST

    Mattman, I didn't say Costner's sci-fi was GOOD...

    by CountryBoy

    ... I just said he was into it, and he HAS made some good movies. Why can't the two go together?

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 7:05 p.m. CST

    Or what about Tim Burton?

    by CountryBoy

    If they put a leash on his quirkiness, his visual style could be great for this.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 7:06 p.m. CST

    Or for that matter Timur Bekmambatov...

    by CountryBoy

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 7:12 p.m. CST

    Put a leash on Tim Burton's quirkiness

    by MattmanReturns

    and you get Planet of the Apes. Aside from ape fucking and a WTF ending that not even Burton understood, that movie was so ridiculously normal and bland.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 7:35 p.m. CST

    uh, God Emperor is one of the best Dune books

    by fastcars

    So...yeah, that's probably why geeks want it. It's fucking awesome.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 7:38 p.m. CST

    And why complain about multiple adaptations?

    by fastcars

    Nobody nailed it. Lynch's had a cool look, but was a chore to get through. SciFi channel had a campy look, but adapted the novels in an engaging way. They can keep adapting it until they get it right. And if you're burnt out, don't watch it, and stop bitching.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Spice, oil, etc.

    by cyberskunk

    google is telling me that in an Omni magazine interview Frank Herbert identified CHOAM with OPEC.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 9:28 p.m. CST


    by nicegoogly

    I totally agree with your assessment of the Sci-Fi mini-series. Paul was also terrible casting. William Hurt as Duke Leto was actually inspired. I forgot to mention in my earlier post my love for the Children of Dune mini-series that followed. Daunting task to take two of Herbert's books (albeit much thinner than the first one) and make a four hour mini-series that captures the essence of both them fairly well. A young James McAvoy as Leto II was great. He should have been cast as Paul to begin with. I am glad that there was always a decision age Paul and Leto II in the movie and the mini-series. Leto II was only 9 in Children of Dune. Would have seemed more like a Robert Rodriquez film to see someone so young with the sand trout skin killin' fools.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 9:40 p.m. CST


    by Darthmmule

    just wanted to say that i love all the Dune novels and the movie and the two Sci-Fi channel mini's!the prequels by Herbert's son Brian and Kevin J Anderson(who wrote alot of the post Ep.6 Star Wars novels!!!!)is very cool!i'm currently reading Paul of Dune,which is a direct sequel to Dune!anyway?isn't everything a re-make these days??? More Dune!!!

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 11:02 p.m. CST


    by MattmanReturns

    Yeah Paul sucked. I seem to remember his mother being fairly decent. I really liked the chick who played Princess Irulan. Children of Dune was far better though. I never actually liked Dune Messiah, but they wrapped it up nicely in the first two hours. I still watch Children of Dune from time to time... if only for that awesome Brian Tyler score.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 11:18 p.m. CST


    by frank cotton

    ROSIE O'DONNELL - HA HA HA HA! thanks for the laugh; excellent name, too!

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 11:33 p.m. CST

    Jodoworsky's version

    by jiblets

    had it been made, would have been the most psychedelic, fucked up incoherent mass of shit ever put to film. And IT WOULD NOT HAVE RESEMBLED 'D U N E' EVEN REMOTELY! <P>Salvador Dali as the Emperor Shaddam? Are you fucking batshit insane? He was a PAINTER for Christ's sake. I've seen that man on film, and he looked and sounded like a mentally deranged lunatic having a bad acid trip. <P>Jodoworsky is a visionary, granted, but his version of DUNE would have been straight out of his own id and his own obsessions, and would not have had even an iota, a particle of Frank Herbert's epic storytelling and characterization. The characters and the planets would have the same names, and that's where it would end. <P> I have read and enjoyed many of Jodo's comic books, illustrated by geniuses like Jean Gireaud and Juan Gimenez, and I've seen what Jodoworsky is all about. He needs to be kept the hell away from DUNE, because it's got an agenda of its own, and Jodo would not be able to resist fucking with it; He's too obsessed with himself and his own ideas to allow Frank Herbert to run the show.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 11:34 p.m. CST

    So let me get this straight:

    by RedJester

    The guy that directed District B-13 is directing Dune and the guy that directed 10,000 BC is directing The Foundation. Have I got that right? I've apparently entered The Twilight Zone...

  • Jan. 6, 2010, 12:33 a.m. CST

    I understand all the KJA dune hate.

    by tenfingersofdoom

    house atreiades, harkonnen and corrino were'nt that bad. hunters and sandworms were a shitstorm of disappointment. brian herbert and KJA need to publish frank herberts notes on the last book, like what christopher tolkien has done with all his fathers works, so we can have a satisfying conclusion. I think thats partially where all this new movie hate is coming from. too many people have tried to interpret on genius and the original works are not even truly finished.

  • Jan. 6, 2010, 12:48 a.m. CST


    by frank cotton

    the same guy who used to do time-travel stories in HEAVY METAL?

  • Jan. 6, 2010, 1 a.m. CST

    Lynch's version

    by jiblets

    came so tantalizingly close to what the story needed, but there was just too much wrong. <P>So many of the actors LOOKED perfect for the parts, but the delivery felt stilted, stiff and alienating. I wonder if that was on purpose. You needed to feel as if these people were more advanced, more evolved than us. Just to look at them you needed to be able to see that they had more going on upstairs. Elegance, focus, deadliness, intellect. <P> The costuming and sets where absolutely gorgeous for the most part. Then there were the Sardaukar - Hazmat suits? They needed to look something that would weaken their enemies bowels in terror, not dudes in clean-room bunny suits. Howling Stuka dive bombers on two legs, for pete's sake. <P>the Spacing Guildsmen were pretty darn good in my opinion, although the Stage One guys needed to be a bit more inhuman-ized. Freaky contacts with distorted irises would have been enough. The Stage Three tank was very very cool - stylish and intimidating. <P> Sound design and atmospherics are one of the best parts to Lynch's version that I can point to. Lynch really understands how sound can shape the mood of a scene, and he deserved an Oscar for it on this one. <P>The spaceships were uninspired, disappointing design. All of them were boring Boring BORING. Whoever thought them up clearly had never seen a Chis Foss or Jim Burns spaceship illustration. I could do better than that, and I'm a fucking DRUMMER. <P> the spice harvesters were OK, although the Carryalls were just totally fucking wrong. A flying wedge of cheese? Stupid. <P>The ornithopter designs didn't just disappoint me, they pissed me off. Goddammit, they got one of the most signature, geek-centric elements of the entire book WRONG! The earliest illustrations of the DUNE ornithopters had them looking like Bell 47 helicopters or mechanical dragonflies, not flying brass door-stops or double ended dildos. <P> prop design was terrible - all the firearms were inelegant, blocky, clumsy and unrefined. The Weirding modules were not only dumb as a plot point, they looked like they had been designed by grade-school children. The Fremen Crysknife was badly done as well - A spiceworm tooth is a crystal, so it should be translucent, opaline in appearance, not ivory like a tusk.

  • Jan. 6, 2010, 1:12 a.m. CST

    Juan Gimenez

    by jiblets

    Yeah, you got the right one. He does hardware and beautiful women better than just about anyone but Oscar Chichoni.

  • Jan. 6, 2010, 1:28 a.m. CST

    Lynch's Dune was awesome

    by maelgrim

    One of my all time fav films. Sure it departed quite a bit from the book, but I still loved it. The soundtrack was A+.

  • Jan. 6, 2010, 1:40 a.m. CST

    Saw the stillsuit and the WM

    by Dingbatty

    at the sci fi museum here in Seattle at the EMP. Film is forgiving. The only props there that look substantial are the Rocketeer's duds, and the Terminator body parts by Mr. Winston. Oh, all of the Henson stuff from that traveling exhibit last summer was gorgeous. The Muppets they displayed were perfect, and the clothing, utensils and jewelry from The Dark Crystal were exquisitely crafted.

  • Jan. 6, 2010, 7:18 a.m. CST

    Bring it on is superior to TDK

    by tradeskilz

    nyah nyah

  • Think "Lawrence of Arabia" done as science fiction.

  • Jan. 6, 2010, 2:02 p.m. CST

    God Emperor is one of the best books...

    by _Maltheus_

    ...but I agree that it can't really be filmed. Chapterhouse and Heretics, on the other hand, are probably more filmable than all the earlier books in the series. Miles going all Matrix style is what audiences expect these days anyway.

  • Jan. 6, 2010, 2:19 p.m. CST

    One of the few books that can't be filmed

    by sardonia

    I agree with the other posters who say that it can't and shouldn't be filmed (again)./ The books themselves were largely devoid of action and were full of political intrigue. Dune is far too cerebral for the average person these days, anyway. Besides, we got our version of Dune with Avatar. :)

  • Jan. 6, 2010, 4:37 p.m. CST

    We DON'T need another DUNE

    by Kraaken

    Give it a fucking break. Seeing the first two incarnations is plenty for me. The film version was pathetic and too short to get all the storyline properly fleshed out. The mini-series was a better adaptation, but it was still sort of dry - LIKE THE BOOK. Let it rest

  • Jan. 6, 2010, 5:43 p.m. CST

    Already seen the best Dune movie...

    by seniorspeilbergio

    but it exists only in my mind. Another Dune film? Sorry, but with me; two strikes and you're out.

  • Jan. 6, 2010, 7:09 p.m. CST

    The SyFy mini series fails for one reason:

    by Ultron ver 2.0

    Fremen Fatties. Oh, an the Bene Gesserit hats. Oh, and the way they pronounced Harkonnen.

  • Jan. 7, 2010, 8:02 a.m. CST

    Pierre Morel...

    by SunTzu77

    ...isn't a bad choice. If I were the producer my lineup would be... <br> DP: Sergey Trofimov (Mongol, Day Watch, etc.) shoot the film with an anamorphic lens... get those beautiful flares, etc. I'd like a classic epic look as well... like Lawrence of Arabia, etc. <br> Duke Leto - Liam Neeson <br> Lady Jessica - Lena Olin <br> Muad'Dib - Chris Pine <br> Baron Harkonnen - Ray Winstone <br> Feyd-Rautha - Ben Foster <br> Chani - Emily Blunt

  • Jan. 7, 2010, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Oh yeah...

    by SunTzu77

    Get Joe Penhall or Steven Zaillian to adapt/write the script.

  • Jan. 26, 2010, 3:49 a.m. CST

    by jbizzy979

    The Dune books are superb but lets not get our hopes up too high this story is going to be watered down in order to make an entertaining movie Im curios to see where they take it.