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Cool shot from Luc Besson's THE MESSENGER (the Joan of Arc story)
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Hey folks, Harry here with this cool shot from Luc Besson's upcoming Joan of Arc movie, THE MESSENGER. Early screenings for the film have had good reports from film fans, while 'regular folks' had some problems with the level of violence. However, the good news is that somehow THE MESSENGER got it's 'R' rating without taking a chainsaw to the print. This is one of the absolute top movies I am looking forward to seeing at this point. Wish I had that French book on the making of the film though... I hear it has fantastic pictures in it! Sigh... Thanks go out to SwissBen for sending this in!
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and by the way. Why oh why oh why did someone have to make a miniseries. They knew Luc Le God was making this one. Why oh why
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How will the recent Joan Of Arc mini-series affect this films chances at the box-office? Will people just be thinking, Hey, I've already seen that? Should do O.K. in other countries though, as I don't think they have had that mini-series yet. www.cinemayhem.com
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Who is that girl?
She doesn't look like Milla Jovovich!!!!! :P
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I read a lot about Joan and saw things about her on tv and whoever this girl is she doesn't look a bit like what Joan must have been.When Joan left her village to free france she couldn't have been older than 15!
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She was sixteen and in those days sixteen year olds looked like they were about 35 (due to hardship of life and much shorter lifespans). I'm very happy that they aren't portraying her as this fresh faced girl from Noxzema kind of hero, she was probably very rugged and very dirty!
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..besides, as we all know most teens on the screen are played by 20-somethings anyway so I'd like to think we'd be used to it by now. And if you want to be a real stickler for historical accuracy, they should make the average male in any Medieval European-based movie 5'4" since they were much shorter on average in those days - but for some reason you never hear people griping about the fact that most of these period pieces have men who are routinely in the 5'9" to 6" range roaming about. Nor should they gripe about it either because it's just a concession to practicality, just like using older actors for teens.
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I was thinking of waiting for the video release but this photo swayed me. R rated battle scenes with armor and horses and her? *drool*
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Optimus Prime, id agree that The Professional is an action classic (best action flick of the decade) but the 5th Element wouldnt even make my top ten sci-fi. Why? ITS NOT SCI-FI!!! ITS STUPID BRUCE WILLIS ACTION! Theres a difference. Good sci-fi is TOTAL RECALL, THE MATRIX, T2 (kind of, mostly action movie though), and....ummm....shit....they dont make many 100% sci-fi movies much anymore. A space age setting and aliens is to sci-fi what dark shadows, private dicks, and night time urban settings are to film noir--superficial stereotypes. Theres more to the genre than that. Anywho, if Besson can take himself more seriously this time than last and start acting like a Professional again, this will be one more reason why this fall will be kick ass. Of course, i had high hopes for this summer, and look how that turned out. Oh yeah, fuck jack valenti! he sucks.
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Scenes of extreme violence in a 15th Century setting?
Sounds like the best bits from Excalibur.
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When I heard Milla Janovich was doing this movie, I lost a lot of hope for it. Not because of her acting skills, but how she would look as Joan on screen. But, wow, this looks nothing like her and has given me hope. I can't wait to see this movie and wish I had been home to see the CBS mini-series as I heard it was excellent. I hope it comes out on video. While Milla looks rugged in this picture, doesn't she also look a bit like Claire Danes?
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AH, t'as been many a day since my last post. 5th Element not Sci Fi?? Does that make it a docu-drama?? A musical?? Yeah right. Don't been foolish. Enjoyable, all ages accessable sci fi through and through. Top movie to boot. One of my fav's. Another thing, we have a running (very old) gag going here in Australia about people using 'why oh why' in a talk back/letter to the editor. Still makes me laugh. As the monkey with four asses says "Mghrghph."
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Dude, Optimus Prime is such a cool nick. It totally brings back flashes from my childhood. Oh yeah, the movie is gonna rule!!!
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Hmmm... then again, nah - she looks too manly to be Siggy...
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This picture reminds me of the picture of the Stormtrooper on the Dewback's back that has been seen in some Star Wars publications ... Anyone else??? The Dewback's face is right in the camera like the horse's is in this picture. Wonder if it is coincidence.
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it does! hahahaha but anyways, i could swear that was claire danes! mitsurugi rules!
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No matter what happens on t.v......the mini-series will not hamper the movies success....if many recall...every time a movie of some propotion comes out...there is always a t.v. version that is there as well (i.e.--remember Meteor...it came out when Armaggedon and Deep Impact hit the theaters---and GARGATUAN....came out the same time Godzilla did--to capitalize on its fame---even though that flick pretty much shot ITSELF in the foot)....and it will happen again this fall---with the Sleepy Hollow release both on television and in theaters---and we all know that these tv versions do not hamper there big brothers money intake...in some cases i think it helps..-Maybe holly wood does it for the ones who cant afford movies and live on welfare--hell if i know..lol..>>>WINKIE<<<
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Yeah it does look like that sta wras pic
Yeah optimus prime is a cool nick
yeah it doesn't look anything milla
and the matirx? sci-fi, more of a noir/action really, but i see where your coming from.
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Im really disappointed in everyone who thinks taht the mini-series will have an effect on the success of the film. People, get a life and turn off the fucking boob tube. Film is art. Televison is furniture. I didnt even know there was a mini-series until i heard about on this talk back. Im sure there are a lot of people like me too (that is, if theres anyone else in this world who realizes how worthless TV is).
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Greetings from Portugal, everybody! My name is Carlos and i'm portuguese. This is the first time i talk back in this site, although i've know it for a year and a half now. This is where i first knew that Luc Besson was making a new film. Cool news indeed! He's my favourite french director. And if you could see the french films i've already seen, you'd know how different Besson is from the majority of his countrymen, or the european filmmakers in general for that matter. You americans justly complain that your movies are sacrificed too many times of their art for commercial imperatives. But the inverse can be as much devastating: when a filmmaker super-indulges in navel-gazing and obscure symbologism, me-and-my-friends-only type of filmmaking. Those are two extremes that have the same result: mediocrity. Luc Besson is a breeze of fresh air in french cinema. I've seen all his films since SUBWAY and i think i can judge accurantly that he is a very talented director and a brillant visualist. And a bit of provocative too. And bless him for bringing to the eyes of the world Natalie Portman. Bless him indeed! I'm eagerly waiting Besson's next film, although i hope that the current title would be changed. JOAN OF ARC would just be a perfec title. It tells it all. THE MENSAGER sounds like the seguel to THE POSTMAN. It could jink Besson's film. Here in Portugal we had the oportunity to see two different versions of the Joan of Arc story, the 1993 french film JOAN LA PUCELLE (Joan The Maid) and yours tv series. And they couldn't be more different one from the other, although sharing the same subject. The french film was a tipical intelectual french film: slow-moving, over-extended stactic shots, histerical perfonmance from the lead actress and almost indifferent ones from the suporting cast, gloomy photographty, cardboard scenarios, etc... In short, boring. Even the battle scenes were boring. As much as you can criticize the tv serie its battle scenes was some of the best in television. Joan in the film was portaited has a religious fanatic, a monomaniac, suffering severe tunnel-vision, someone totaly convinced that she was special, that she was the Maid of Orleans. This was for me the most acurate thing in the film. Sounded realistic. The tv serie Joan's reluctance of sainthood his just too modern thinking to be beliveble. Also the film had some funny scenes about the finantial side of her story. Even then armies were expensives to suport.
But, to my suprise, i find that the tv show was best and more acurate than the french film. The series was more detailed on the politics and this was its strengh. The young actor from STARSHIP TROOPERS that played the king was a brillant casting decision. The french king of the time of Joan must had been very young indeed because he outlived her and ruled France for almost 30 years. Even if he died in his 50's it would be advanced aged for it's time. The fourty-plus years old John Malkovich as the french king in Besson's film may be a serious miscast. The tv series also had Peter O'Tool in great acting shape, and he and the king actor scenes together were tv acting gold. And Leelee Sobiesky is very beautiful and carismatic, very beliveble as Joan. There's was only one thing that disturbed me in the tv serie and in all american movies about the middle ages for that matter: the abundance of crossbows! You americans seem to think that every shoeless soldier in mediavel europe were armed with crossbows. Wrong! Crossbows were very exclusive weapons. They were the cream of weapon tecnology of the time, like an high-tech sniper rifle of today. And they only began to be used by armies in somewhat large quantities in the late 15th century. Joan lived in the early part of that century. Crossbowmen were elite soldiers with specialised training. The image of horsemen armed with crossbows is nonsense: all horsemen were noblemen that though that any form of fighting that didn't involve horseback-riding and lance-handling or swordfighting dishonorable. And for the general infantary they were either recruted peasants armed with pikes or sword handling mercenaries. Crossbowmen and archers were wealthy city bourgois or land-owner farmers, men that could afford this expensive piece of weaponry. And manufactering a crossbow was specialised work. Crossbows were so terrible for its time that a pope tried to forbid its use among christians. So, it can be said that unlike most american films want us to belive, crossbows weren't the winchesters of middle ages! The middle ages was nothing like the old west.
Ok, it's a wrap! It was great to talk back and sorry for the lenght of it.
See you all soon.
Best, Carlos Saraiva
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