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Sam Worthington tells me there's no truth to the FLASH GORDON rumors

Hey folks, Harry here... Back last year, when Merrick ran that rumor story about Sam Worthington being in a runoff with Ryan Reynolds for the part of FLASH GORDON. Well, I don't have Ryan's email, but I do chat back and forth via email with Sam a bit, so I asked him if there was any truth to a possible FLASH aaaah aaaaaaaaaahhhhh, in his future. Technically I didn't put it that way. But you get the gist. Here's what Sam wrote me back today:
happy new year mate there is no validity to the rumours sometimes, as you know, studios tend to just scat ideas and they leak out - but its the first i have heard about it mate. sam
SO - if there is a runoff for the part of FLASH GORDON, Sam isn't aware of it. Well, I guess we brought it to his attention now. But he was not going out for the part or involved in capturing the role. But as he puts it, this could be a thing where those involved are fishing for reactions. With Sam playing a cyborg, an Avatar and Perseus back to back to back... Him playing FLASH GORDON would seem a bit much in terms of playing iconic character SciFi and Fantasy Characters - And I have to admit, I really would love to see him in a L.A. CONFIDENTIAL type of movie... and actually - he might be a great candidate for CAPTAIN AMERICA and frankly... FLASH GORDON would be an interesting part, so long as tonally he plays it very different from these other characters. What do you folks think? You have seen his rather wonderful work in his Aussie flicks right?

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  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:23 p.m. CST


    by saber12

    Here come the Avatar bashers!!!

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:25 p.m. CST

    I thought we're all supposed to say he's boring?

    by couP

    And blergh, and lacks charisma, etc. He kinda does...

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:26 p.m. CST

    He's a black hole of charisma

    by GoDFaDDa42

    Just finished watching Serenity and some episodes of Farscape on Netflix. Fillion and Browder are similar leading men, but they're charismatic. Worthington makes no impact on the screen at all. Hopefully Clash of the Titans will be better for him.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Tell Dale...I know it would've been good..

    by Alfred_Packer

    well, maybe...who knows? But we all know what version will never be topped in a 100 lifetimes.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Jansen Ackles would be a good Flash Gordon

    by Drath

    Oh wait, didn't the last guy to play Flash also play some loser on Smallville? Dangit. Well look, if Sam could get some roles with no real cred to prove he could carry a movie, why can't someone new? Someone American? Someone who maybe has more charisma even? I don't quite get how this guy who hadn't proven himself has gotten all these leading roles--and still no one will take a chance on a different unproven guy. Hell, Orlando Bloom is still a stronger candidate for any given leading man hero-guy role in my opinion.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Avatar sucks

    by Laserbrain

    There. Consider the movie bashed.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:28 p.m. CST

    sam should play a lump in the road

    by HaterofCrap

    the role would fit his talent perfectly...fuckin imported dud. thanks australia.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Captain FREAKIN' America?!?

    by Warbeast24

    Harry, Worringtons an okay actor, but he can't lose his accent to save his life! Did you honestly just suggest him to play the most american icon in comics history, S

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:29 p.m. CST

    Part of the problem...

    by GoDFaDDa42

    Is that he always plays stoics. He needs to loosen up in a major role, and then bring that experience to his action movies.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:29 p.m. CST

    I don't hate Sam, unlike a lot of folks around here...

    by Shermdawg

    ...but he shouldn't be Cap. No sir. If that's who they're now considering, they should've just went with "Aw HELL NO!" or "Alright Alright".

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:29 p.m. CST

    finishing my thought...

    by Warbeast24

    Sorry, hit enter too soon. Steve Rogers? Come on, Knowles!!!

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:30 p.m. CST

    BTW, Browder for Cap

    by GoDFaDDa42

    He plays very similar characters (by design, to bring in the audience) on Farscape and SG1, and I think Cap would be a great turn for him.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:31 p.m. CST

    And Worthington is -

    by Laserbrain

    - the Non Star of the Decade. <p>Hopefully the *last* decade.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:31 p.m. CST

    I'm honestly surprised they aren't going for...

    by Shermdawg

    a Owen Wilson as Flash, Ben Stiller as Ming, Will Ferrell as Birdguy flick.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:36 p.m. CST

    No Flash = Capt. America for Sam.

    by Logan_1973's just a matter of time.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Whoever it was back when Invictus came out...

    by Shermdawg

    ...that mentioned Matt Damon would be a good choice for Cap, was right. At least that would be in the right direction unlike Sam.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Who decided Worthington should be a star?

    by KingNineReturns

    Seriously, who the hell is he to come out of nowhere and ruin every flagpole franchise? He was pitiful in Terminator and Avatar.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Wait a second Harry..

    by Logan_1973

    You hated him in TERMINATOR and now you're singing his high praises? What a difference obtaining an email address can make.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Thanks, mate!!

    by Kenny8

    Laying on the "mate" a bit Sam. Trying to be the next Chips Rafferty?

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:40 p.m. CST

    I don't get the hate for this guy.

    by ScaryWaitress

    He reminds me vaguely of Liev Schreiber, with a little Mark Wahlberg mixed in. I have no problem with him. I think I actually might kinda dig him...

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:42 p.m. CST


    by darthsynn

    If FIRST! is all you have to say, please stay off this talkback. Come back when you have something more profound to write.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:44 p.m. CST

    I'd rather have Sam than Bale's overacting ass.

    by Shermdawg

    Also, people that shits on him over letting his accent slip, has to call Christian on it as well. 3:10 anyone?

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:49 p.m. CST


    by Shermdawg

    "First!" wasn't all he had to say, and complaining about a "First!" poster isn't exactly profound either.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:51 p.m. CST

    I like Worthington, a fellow Aussie.

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    He should not be Captain America though. <p> I read all the bitchin saying his Yank accent sucked, to me however, there was no accent. He just sounded Australian.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:53 p.m. CST

    AVATAR + my eyeballs = Jodie Foster in the Accused....

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks


  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:54 p.m. CST

    AVATAR + my eyeballs = Ned Beatty in Deliverance

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    it's bizarre to hear your eyeballs squeal like a pig.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:54 p.m. CST

    If you have to cast an Aussie as Cap...

    by Shermdawg better be Paul fucking Hogan.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:55 p.m. CST

    AVATAR + my eyeballs = Tim Robbins in Shawshank

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:57 p.m. CST

    He'll save every one of us

    by Toilet_Terror

    Nothing can top the 80 film. Don't even bother. Great comic strip, great movie. Fuck off greedy Hollywood assclowns.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 6:59 p.m. CST

    AVATAR + my eyeballs = Leo Getz at the drive thru.

    by Shermdawg

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 7:06 p.m. CST


    by saber12

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Worthington as Cap?

    by BacardiRocky

    Fuck NO! i would rather see Paul Walker or Matthew Mcconaughey in the role. Fuck it, I'll take Leo Dicaprio or the aforementioned Matt Damon. Sam Worthlesston is boring as shit. He brings nothing to the screen. Why does Hollywood try to push its new "stars" on us every few years. I think Aaron Eckhart would be a cool pick, but he might be too old for the role.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Ugh, Walker? Really?

    by Shermdawg

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 7:18 p.m. CST

    Paul Walker actually looks the part really well.

    by dailysportspages

    Worthington is like 5'9, cmon folks. <br> Walker is tall, blond, and his looks fit the part.<br> And you dont need a great actor for this type of role anyway... he is actor enough for Flash Gordon.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 7:18 p.m. CST

    the studio is going after Chris Evans for the Flash role

    by JettL93

    last i heard he's pretty much signed

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 7:20 p.m. CST

    AVATAR + my eyeballs=Lorena Bobbit Snatch..

    by odo19

    after the....incident.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Tobey Maguire for flash!!!

    by saber12

    He could look real sad.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Maguire can't even pull off looking sad decently.

    by Shermdawg

    Him crying on the bed after Ben died? Pathetic.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 7:30 p.m. CST

    JettL93...your the boy who cried wolf

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    I like it.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 7:30 p.m. CST

    Chris Evans

    by david19

    Would be my pick for Cap. Im also not opposed to someone like Jensen Ackles. Matthew McCon-a-however-the-fuck-you-spell-it isnt a bad pick either, but they both bug me. The dude they got for Thor would have been an especially good pick, but hes taken so... In the end I would go with an unknown. Im really hoping something is done to bring Bucky in as the Winter Soldier in a future flick.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 7:34 p.m. CST

    I think Dwayne Johnson could play Flash Gordon

    by BacardiRocky

    He is a good comedic actor, has great charisma and would be a good fit. I would hope if they do a new Flash Gordon film, that they at least keep it with some humor instead of trying to go serious Sci-Fi. I mean, come on, Flash Gordon was a football Quarterback (Polo Player in the comic) who became a Galactic hero. There is no way they can keep a serious tone with this film.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 7:34 p.m. CST

    Give Sam a break, he's still a young actor

    by CodeName

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 7:34 p.m. CST

    Shermdawg...damn you, Leo Getz is the greatest

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    it'll be hard to top that one....

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Chris Evans was fantastic in Sunshine

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    he blew me away in that film.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 7:39 p.m. CST

    I don't get the hate for this guy

    by bullet3

    He was the closest to a decent performance in Mcg's disaster of a terminator movie, and I actually liked him quite a bit in Avatar. I think we need to give him a few more roles before we make judgements, and its certainly unfair to call him bad or terrible

  • SAM one man who fucked up T4 playing him....what a fuckin shite actor where the fuck as he suddenly come from hes fuckin shite and he's ruining so many fuckin big films. Would he and that other prick Shia LaBeouf PLEASE PLEASE FUCK OFFF THANKS!

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 7:54 p.m. CST


    by FlickaPoo

    ...not that anyone cares at this point. I don’t normally do this sort of thing, but I was a vocal AVATAR skeptic…I mostly just voiced my concerns about what I was seeing and hearing in the trailers and clips, but I did fire off the occasional flippant or derogatory remark if it seemed funny or cool enough. <P> I was wrong. <P> My only major beef is with the staggeringly incompetent and hopefully soon unemployed person who decided to put any and all questionable material in the trailers and promotional clips. The Charging The Bear scene was hopelessly cliché and has been beaten to death…but at two minutes in a nearly three hour move the irritation it caused was like a tablespoon of vinegar in an ocean of champagne…hardly worth mentioning. Dialogue that sounded corny and trite in the trailer made perfect sense in context. That villain absolutely would say things like “we’re not in Kansas anymore” just as much as he would say things like “hold your position” or “target at six o’clock”…that’s part of what made him villainous…that’s who that guy was, having him spout creatively evil Shakespearian metaphors would have been out of character. <P> A lot has been made of the familiar and/or stolen plot. Stealing is a dangerous game…it’s a big gamble and you better know what you’re doing. And Cameron did steal. Cameron stole not just from DANCES WITH WOLVES and FERN GULLY and the rest…he stole from the best of everything. He stole from Edgar Rice Burroughs, Jules Verne, Robert E. Howard, H. G. Wells and all the old pulp writers…he stole from BRAVEHEART and old classic war movies, he stole from LAST OF THE MOHICANS…I’m sure he stole from countless sources I’m not familiar with. Maybe I’m getting carried away here, but that kind of stealing doesn’t just get a pass…that kind of stealing is what art is made of. AVATAR rapes pillages and plunders all of storydom and mixes up a thousand recognizable influences into something I haven’t quite seen before. <P> I’ve read tens of thousands of words about AVATAR at this point, and even the harshest critics acknowledge that the visuals are impressive. I was completely unprepared for what I saw on Pandora. It took me a while to settle in, but by the time night fell and the bioluminescence that looked so cheesy on TV kicked in I was frankly a bit emotional at the majesty of what I was seeing. I’ve only had feelings like that on top of real mountains, in real forests, or in cathedrals in Europe…spine tingling awe and wonder. <P> A few effects were a little less amazing than others (the horses were the weakest animation) but hardly worth mentioning in light of the overall experience. Our hero’s disability and his wonder and glee at his new body was far more effective and moving than I imagined it would be and fit perfectly with my humbled exhilaration in Pandora’s jungle. Of all the familiar and re-mixed elements in AVATAR something I have never seen is a twelve foot alien that I now love cradling the broken and crippled body of her mate…seeing him as for the puny human he is…and loving all of him for real for the first time. <P> Strangely, as much as I loved it, I don’t feel an urge to see AVATAR again anytime soon unless it’s to share the experience with someone who hasn’t been yet. I certainly won’t see it in 2D. I have argued that a good movie shouldn’t rely on effects...that it should be just as good in 2D as in 3. Maybe, but I was on Pandora…I was there for real…and I don’t want to see a flat imitation on my TV at home. <P> Anyone reading this will be able to tell that I just got back and am still riding the high. I would probably be more measured in my praise tomorrow, and I will probably regret this post tomorrow. and I promise I will go back to poo flicking as soon as possible…but I'm a humbled skeptic. Avatar was one of the high points of my theatergoing life.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 7:55 p.m. CST


    by Dharma4

    How about you slide over Sam's email, eh? For old time's sake...?

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 7:57 p.m. CST


    by CountryBoy

    DATELINE LOS ANGELES -- In an oversight described as "embarrassing" and "disconcerting," ubiquitous actor Sam Worthington was not cast in the upcoming Flash Gordon film. "We are working to correct this mistake," a spokesman announced in a statement Thursday.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:01 p.m. CST

    haha...different tonally...thats a good one

    by Crow3711

    I'll believe it when I see it. Dude needs in a put himself in a basic drama with zero CG and prove to someone he can act in any capacity without special effects enhancement, etc. I'll give him a chance if he has the balls to put himself in an LA CONFIDENTIAL esque film...but I don't think he does.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:02 p.m. CST

    Sams a good actor

    by optimus122

    Does anyone give a crap what the boneheads in the talkback say? 99 percent of the replys are just shock value replys. No substance at all.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Oh wow..another bogus linked story from Merrick

    by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer

    Big fucking shock.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:04 p.m. CST

    I love it when Harry has to debunk his own fucking

    by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer

    god this site is priceless.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Sam Worthington Killed and Ate my Dog

    by nonentity

    The hate for Sam Worthington is very strange. Blaming him for the quality of T:S is one of the dumbest comments I have ever read on the internet. There is an extremely jealous vibe coming from the "he sucks" comments. Like when a guy talks bad about a good looking girl only because he knows she is out of his league. I did hear his accent a few times, but he is not even close to being a bad actor.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Crow3711.. he is in some great aussie films

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    Dirty Deeds is an excellent crime drama/thriller, and he is quite good in it.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:07 p.m. CST

    He'd be a great Captain America

    by antonphd

    he doesn't need to be American. in fact, I can't think of any American actors who can play Captain America. there really are no strong leading men in America. not young enough at least. I mean... who are they gonna get? Captain America is in his 20s not his late 30s or early 40s. they need a young guy to play him. Sam looks like he could fit the part well to me.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:08 p.m. CST

    Pretty sure Dirty Deeds was his first

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    cracking aussie flick about the mob first trying to get it's hand into Australian organised crime. It also starred Bryan Brown, Toni Collette and John Goodman.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:12 p.m. CST

    I want to see him play a fag in a Kevin Smith movie

    by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:14 p.m. CST


    by antonphd

    Doesn't it feel good to find out you were wrong about a movie you thought would suck and instead finding out it's just fucking awesome? I know exactly how you felt. I was seriously worried about the film until I watched in midnight show opening night. And yes... you feel like you WERE on Pandora... and that is the experience that is so hard to explain to people when you tell them to see it in 3D. It's the first time I've felt truly transported in a film. Marvel is an acurate description of this film. As for not seeing it again... man... you'll be thinking twice about that soon enough... it's like seeing the ocean for the first time and being overwhelmed and thinking that you don't want to see it again because it might spoil the experience by not being as amazing. Don't worry. It's better the next time. Trust me. I've seen it twice. And my part time holiday job is projector guy at a local theater showing it in 3D and 2D and I've seen most of it too many times to count now. It NEVER gets old. Even when I think it will get old... I walk by... take a peak... next thing I know I'm running across the room to start another movie late.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:14 p.m. CST



    Actually, if you reread the review of TERMINATOR SALVATION, I disliked his character as written, and felt his performance was directed to being one-note. Sam's previous work and his work on AVATAR is more impressive than T:S. And he looks quite good on CLASH OF THE TITANS - from what I saw on set, and in the trailers.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Alexander Skarsgard

    by tehgreekhammer

    would have been Perfect for Thor and the guy thats playing Thor would have been Perfect for Cap. But at this point Id take the Vampire sheriff as my Cap. It just sucks that he'll be way taller than Thor.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:22 p.m. CST

    AVATAR + my eyeballs = What Lucas did to childhoods...

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    or so I hear...

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:23 p.m. CST

    AVATAR + my eyeballs = Culkin at Neverland Ranch

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    I bet he wished he had of stayed home alone...

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:24 p.m. CST

    Horray for Sam

    by Bellam

    Glad it's not true, and hope it doesn't become so. I'd just like to see him do something different.<p>BUT NO FUCKING ROM COMS.<p>Seriously Sam, I have unhealthy love for you at this point, but if you're ever serially misunderstanding Sandra Bullock or something similar, you and me are done. DONE.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:25 p.m. CST

    Paul Walker for Captain America?

    by antonphd

    I don't know. He may be too pretty. Steve Rogers wasn't a pretty boy. Aaron Eckhart would have been perfect 10 years ago. Matthew would probably be alright if he was put on Ridalin. Paul Walker... huh... I just don't know... he was pretty fucking awesome in Running Scared... can he play a leader... that is the real question... can he be believable as a leader. He's got the box office draw for it that's for certain. I don't know.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:25 p.m. CST

    AVATAR + my eyeballs = what I'd do to Estelle Getty...

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    I have a Sophia fetish, so kill me.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:27 p.m. CST

    Paul Walker in Running Scared

    by antonphd

    I really loved that film... mabye because I was sooooo surprised at how much it didn't suck... maybe because I love those type of stories... maybe because of the child abuse payback part as an ex foster kid. But I really liked that movie alot.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:28 p.m. CST

    I also have a thing for granny in the Beverly Hillbilly's...

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    dunno if it's the accent, the gaited walk, or her spunky attitude.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:29 p.m. CST

    AVATAR + my eyeballs = David Caruso's film career..

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    an obvious oldy but a goody....

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:29 p.m. CST


    by FlickaPoo does feel good. I even liked Sam Worthington.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:29 p.m. CST

    Sam as Captain America

    by antonphd

    You know... I think he just basically played Steve Rogers in Avatar. I think Harry's right. Sam would be great as Captain America. Hey, we know he can play sick and we know he looks kickass in blue. But he'd definitely need to beef up.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Another AICN rumor debunked

    by saber12

    How does this site stay in business anyway?

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 8:48 p.m. CST

    COUNTRYBOY - thanks for the laugh

    by frank cotton

    and for the record, granny would fuck all our brains out

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 9:08 p.m. CST

    Regarding Worthington as Captain America...


    ... mark my words, as soon as "Clash of the Titans" is released in March, Marvel will announce Worthington as Cap... Just think about it... Marvel is weary about international box office with regards to the Captain America movie... hence the title change... So you know they are going to cast a strong draw in the lead role. With Avatar pulling in bank overseas, you can bet your ass that Marvel is looking at him, and he has even stated in an interview with MTV that he wants the part... so it's safe to say he will lobby for it... btw, Worthington wore an Avengers AND Captain America t-shirt in two separate interviews with MTV... (FYI, he was wearing the Cap shirt in the interview where he stated he wanted the role) I doubt those instances were coincidental. Harry, has Sam shared something with you regarding the Cap casting? Just wondering since you guys keep in touch... and your stating he would make a good Cap... Hmmmm???

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 9:08 p.m. CST

    I like him

    by sith_rising

    he's an EVERYMAN! You mean I get to direct RISE of the REVENGE!?

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 9:17 p.m. CST


    by ColonelFatheart

    As a fellow chastened skeptic, I have to say that is the best review of Avatar I've read yet. That movie was Lourdes to my crippled sense of wonder. I did see it a second time, and I liked it even better.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 9:19 p.m. CST

    And you know what?

    by ColonelFatheart

    Sam was indeed good in it.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 9:29 p.m. CST

    How about next time you talk to him...

    by tonyd1411

    you tell him to spend a little time working on his american accent, because he fucking sucks at it. All we need is a Captain America who has an australian accent that keeps popping out.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Avatar sumed up in one post

    by JettL93

    Sometime in the future People are still greedy just like they are in today's times, the humans want a rock on an alien planet. This rock in no way has a name that ridiculous.<P> "Hi i'm the main character named Jeff or Bill or something relatable like that. My accent will fade in and out throughout the film just so you American's don't feel like you're rooting for a Canadian or whatever country i'm from. Anyway, I had a twin brother who was smart but he died so I'm gonna take over his spot on some videogame planet. Oh I am also in a wheelchair because I got paralyzed in a war... war is bad! SYMPATHIZE ME!"<P> "Hi i'm scientist Sigourney Weaver. Rabble rabble I hate the main character, but deep down i'm nice and will eventually relate to you in a motherly way. Then David Fincher will kill you off in the first 5 minutes of the sequel...oh, wait"<P> "Hi i'm Giovani Ribisi, I don't know if my character has a name, but for plots sake lets say it's Carter Burke. I Will spend the movie getting in the good guy's way and trying to convince the audience I know how to act. I like business and war over freedom and nature..please hate me"<P> The main character becomes a videogame and acts like a retard so he gets separated from the rest of the team and he meets and falls in love with Smurfette.<P> "Hi i'm Smurfette, I like to use an acting technique that is mostly a form of crying or screaming and therefore you never know if I'm happy or sad. Plus I serve to confuse the male audience on whether they should be aroused from my oddly sexual body. Also judging from the number of legs and wings on everything else on this planet, I may or may not have two vaginas"<P> The Main character Billy gets wraped up in the videogame world and learns to fuck things with his tenticle ponytail dick to make them work. He decides to protect the planet from the humans because he is really trying to bone the main female Gungan and the military keeps cock blocking him.<P> "Hi I'm General Punching Van WarMuscles, I love war and I also love Steroids. I'm the director's lame attempt at sending a subliminal message that war is bad and it obsesses you. My redemable character traits are that I kind of look like the Hoff and I make angry war remarks while flexing my very oiled biceps"<P> The Stormtroopers attack with big bad army technology and the Ewok's fight back with Rocks and sticks. They lose at first but thats because they lack confidence. Everyone in the audience gets choked up when that one Ewok gets killed, even if they won't admit it to themselves.<P> Scientist Sigourney dies and gets eaten by Grandmother Willow Tree. Michelle Rodriguez acts like Michelle Rodriguez and then also dies because she was driving her ship while intoxicated.<P> Eventually the Ewoks win, because John Dunbar proves to Pocahontas that he is just like them because he can fly a Koopa Troopa as good as her Grandpa did. The smurfs capture the Stormtroopers and make them leave the planet all sad and defeated like. They let some people stay to be nice or if they are videogame prodigys who speak with a robot voice <P> The smurfs use Grandmother Willow Tree to make Sam Worthington turn into a smurf and forget he stared in Terminator Salvation.<P> The audience doesn't know how to interpret what they just saw But they do know that having just paid an hour's wage to see a movie surely entitles them to be a douchebag while trying to get an autograph at a busy airport.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 9:38 p.m. CST


    by FlickaPoo

    ...thanks Colonel.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 9:41 p.m. CST

    I don't think he's boring or a "charisma black hole"

    by Jaka

    I just don't remember him... yet. Which is to say, I can't picture him in my head when somebody says his name. And prior to Avatar I think that was easy to explain. But I really liked him in Avatar and I'm WAY looking forward to Titans, so hopefully that will change.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 9:44 p.m. CST

    So Jett, what you're saying is...

    by Shermdawg're not particularly fond of the changes Jim made to your script?

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Worthington is this generations Keanu....

    by jaysin420

    except Keanu was motherfucking Neo and Sam was the smurfs friend.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 9:46 p.m. CST


    by AmericanMovieFan

    He might read this stuff, so I'll be polite: Worthington has not proved to me as an actor his ability to carry anything. There's obviously something about him that people like and they'd love to make him a star, but that quality is simply not coming through yet. Worthington; it may not matter to you which is okay, but if you'd like to be taken seriously by the geeks, you need to take a role in a smaller film that requires you to really emote or go crazy, etc. just do some truly flashy acting to show as what you're capable of because right now it seems as though the only thing you can do is slightly pleasant stoicism, which inspires not a lick of confidence. Also work on your accent. You do all that, I'll give you a chance. But then again, I don't care what people think about me, so you shouldn't care what we think about you.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 9:47 p.m. CST

    People that slam worthington

    by saber12

    are these the same people that praise Bruce Campbell?

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 9:48 p.m. CST


    by Jaka

    ...I just LIT. ER. A. LLY! did a spit take upon reading your comment. Thankfully I (just barely) moved to the right of my monitor. lol Hey, at least he made the effort to post something "new". Maybe he's going for the leaf turning new years kinda thing. .... we'll see.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 9:52 p.m. CST

    This generations Keanu...

    by Jaka

    ...whoa!<br><br> Come on! Tell me you didn't see that coming!? I'm not even sure I could go that far as Keanu has actually made a wide variety of films (comedies, romances, sci-fi, action, indie, etc.) and Sam hasn't done that yet. Admittedly, the problem for Keanu is that he's just, ya know, KEANU in all of those movies. The trailer for Titans ALONE shows me that Sam has another level of emoting to show us. So as I said, I'm looking forward to that one. Also, I thought he was really spot on perfect in Avatar. Maybe a little low on the wonderment scale, but as Harry mentioned, he is being "directed" to "act" a certain way. I just can't pass judgment on the guy until I've seen him work more.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 9:53 p.m. CST




  • Jan. 1, 2010, 9:58 p.m. CST

    More like this generations Nathan Fillion

    by saber12

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 10:06 p.m. CST

    maybe he just works for cheap?

    by frank cotton

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 10:08 p.m. CST

    Hes not that bad and

    by shakingthebush

    he is under direction so its not like he just unilaterally delivers these performances. Although charisma is an x-factor and you either have it or you dont. With him Im leaning towards not but there are worse actors.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Did he tell you that in a dull voice

    by kabong

    with a dull expression on his face?

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 10:16 p.m. CST

    I figured it out! He's the new HUGH JACKMAN!

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    Australia has figured out a way to clone Mel Gibson. There had been many attempts but only a few were successful, namely Paul Hogan, Hugh Jackman finally Sam Worthington.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 10:18 p.m. CST

    Only thing is, the copy machine ran out of toner...

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    When it produced Sam Worthington.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 10:21 p.m. CST


    by GhostDad

    He can't do n American accent! How the fuck could he be Captain America?!!

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Kabong...I'd expect Sam is a "Courier New"..

    by conspiracy

    or at BEST a "Times New Roman" kinda guy...he just doesn't have it in him to go "Wingdings" or "Rockwell Extra Bold".

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 10:24 p.m. CST

    I Like Sam

    by Cobbio

    I think his image took a hit when "Terminator 4" came out, which unfortunately was a stinking turd of a film. His accent wavered there, yes, between Aussie and American English, but that's also because the director of that film had his head shoved up his own ass. A good director like Cameron would've taken care to smooth it over and make it a non-issue.<p> Personally, I like Sam Worthington. He's got an everyman's physicality to him, along with a quiet yet compelling onscreen presence. You care what happens to him.<p> I think if "Avatar" had emerged before "Terminator 4," the critics of Worthington would be a lot fewer and quieter.<p> Can't wait to see him in "Clash of the Titans."

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Worthington = John Cena

    by jaysin420

    without the cool wrestling moves and fantastic entrance song.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Lame-ass fanboys dissing successful...

    by Skyway Moaters

    ... film actors. What a bunch of dipshits. What did YOU ever do? Fucking pathetic.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 10:47 p.m. CST

    Worthington is the new FLESH Gordon!

    by DarfurOnTheRocks2

  • My first draft was alot tighter and the film was a compact 2 hours 10 mins, But cameron felt it needed more and he took over script duties and i was let go.<P>now you know me as usually someone that stays out of the media attention, byt the reason i have been so vocal in the media right now is because if elt my version was a better film

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 11:03 p.m. CST

    jaysin420, since when did Cena have cool wrestling moves?

    by Shermdawg

    I'd compare him more to Sheamus. Foreign guy, showing up out of nowhere, not really sure of what he's capable of, or what his future holds, and given the ball far too early.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 11:08 p.m. CST

    gotta admit, Sheamus is a riot...

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    a regular riot

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Remember in '2001: A Space Odyssey'..

    by theKRELL

    If you took the computers name HAL, and shifted to the next letters of succession in the alphabet you'd get IBM? You can do the same thing with Jett, and you get CUNT!

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 11:11 p.m. CST

    He Should Play Moon Knight, Or...

    by Media Messiah

    ...a James Bond type, or even a villain--as he can play dark very well.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 11:27 p.m. CST

    Jett = Tommy Wiseau

    by GhostDad

    The only answer.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 11:29 p.m. CST

    Sam has the personality of Russell Crowe off-screen

    by Wookie_Weed

    But still has a way to go before he has Crowe's acting cred. Yo Sam, give Ron Howard and Ridley Scott a call mate! Just stay away from Meg Ryan. ;-)

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 11:30 p.m. CST

    those letters are nowhere near each other Krell

    by JettL93

    if you were making a joke i failed to understand it

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 11:33 p.m. CST

    Jensen Ackles as Flash

    by SmokingRobot

    He NEEDS to be a movie star. Right away. He's really good looking, insanely likeable, and...wait for a way better actor than you'd think. He sneaks up on you. The big screen needs him bad.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 11:44 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 11:45 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    of a Chris Evans / Ryan Reynolds sandwich I'd be one happy piece of meat.

  • Jan. 1, 2010, 11:49 p.m. CST


    by baghead

    These denials mean zilch. Actors are told to deny all the time, it's part of the process as their representatives go back and forth trying to persuade the studio to hire their client over his/her competitors. If there is a FLASH GORDON flick moving forward, you can bet your ass, Sam Worthington, the new flash in the pan it boy is on the studio's short list. Harry, you unapologetic starfucker, stop wasting space on this site to pimp your "friendships," which by the way, are much like this manufactured denial: reps tell their clients to be kind to the pathetic fat geek boy, get his dick hard so he'll be nice and help sell their movies to the fanboy community. SELL OUT!

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 12:04 a.m. CST

    once people start calling you

    by Potatino

    once people start calling you... you know you've made it! ... Harry you've made it! People are calling you a sellout!! Horray!!!

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 12:10 a.m. CST

    Captain America is a decent idea

    by Tall_Boy66

    If anyone actually bitches about "Captain America not being played by an American" you are very stupid.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 12:18 a.m. CST

    Worthington didn't tank T4

    by beane2099

    The story tanked T4. Oh and so did Bale. The story was plain boring. I can't remember the last time I was so bored. However think Worthington made the best of that role. I liked his character a hell of a lot more than Bale's John Connor. Hell I liked CG Arnold more than Bale's John Connor.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 12:19 a.m. CST

    He needs more training as an actor

    by corplhicks

    Sorry but true.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 12:21 a.m. CST


    by BacardiRocky

    Bullshit. If an American actor were cast as James Bond, Brits and everyone else would be going crazy. Captain America should be played by an American. If the Australian's want their own superhero to play, why don't they just do a remake to the Yahoo Serious film Young Einstein.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 12:38 a.m. CST

    Charlie Hunnam = Cap

    by MacReady452

    I don't know how many times I have to say it. He actually does an American accent on a regular basis.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 12:41 a.m. CST

    Mark Valley = Cap

    by LastOfTheV8Interceptors

    Just look at the guy!

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 12:52 a.m. CST

    "in a L.A. CONFIDENTIAL type of movie"

    by AnalFissure

    Oh do fuck off, Harry! Why is it you and the rest of the Hollwyood publicity machine are determined to turn Bland Worthington into the next Russell Crowe!? The guy doesn't have the acting chops or the charisma! Fuck, I'd take Paul Walker over this talentless turd. Please.Just.Stop.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 12:56 a.m. CST

    Chris Evans is going bald fast.

    by dailysportspages

    He has the same head of hair type of a Nic Cage. By the time Cap starts filming Evans will already have a hairline similar to Cages when he did Ghost Rider.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 1:02 a.m. CST

    L.A. Confidential type of movie Part 2

    by EbertsFatThumb

    No I think Harry was hoping Sam would be the next Guy Pearce. Let's see...a couple of Aussies were in L.A. Confidential. Hmmm....that would be great for my mate Sammy. Why not have him in a Road Warrior type of movie?

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 1:07 a.m. CST


    by MacReady452

    cant wait for Human Target. it looks fuckin awesome but Valley is to old to be Cap.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 1:37 a.m. CST

    Capt can be played by a non-american

    by GhostDad

    That's fine. It just needs to be a non-american who can sound American, and Worthington can't do that... it's painful to listen to him struggle. Every decade's got a guy that SHOULD be a huge star, and everyone likes because of the potential they have, but they don't have the talent to pull it off, and Worthington is that guy right now.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 2:17 a.m. CST

    Do Austrailians really type "mate"

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    That has to be fake. Isn't that like typing "Happy f-ing New Years, man" for an American?

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 2:23 a.m. CST

    Anybody else make the JettL93 connection?

    by The_Myhand

    JettL93=Jett Lucas, born in 1993. Obviously its not really Jett Lucas, but someone with a hard on for him or something..or a mere coincidence

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 2:32 a.m. CST

    interesting avatar experiment

    by RefutetheHype

    go read the junior novelization, which starts at the beginning of the movie and ends during the "third trisl" with the magic neck spider. It's read like it's being told as a story, and it's very interesting what things in the script/movie get attention, what things are prioritized.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 3:22 a.m. CST

    It's called... acting

    by antonphd

    When an actor pretends to be someone they are not... even... gasp... someone from a different country. Who's complaining about Morgan Freeman being American and playing Nelson Mandela?? Is Captain America... a COMIC CHARACTER... more important somehow than Nelson Mandela? Quit being nationalist bitches. Nationalism is the ONLY reason to have a problem with an Australian playing Captain America. For fuck's sake.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 3:40 a.m. CST

    I like Sam, but I still can't see why he's such a hot property.

    by Mr Nicholas

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 3:41 a.m. CST

    Captain America IS more important than Mandela

    by MacReady452

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 4:02 a.m. CST

    Whoever Plays Captain America......

    by Tourettesfreakinsyndrome

    Basically has to have enough authority as an actor to boss around / intimidate Iron Man (RDJ) and to a lesser extent Fury (Sam J) in an "Avengers" movie. With any luck he might also get to act with Edward Norton. No ill will to Sam, but I frankly just don't see it from him. I confess I am an Australian and have no bad feelings toward the guy, buy I hope they go with an American. I also hope they portray Cap as the super patriot and American icon he SHOULD be portrayed as. I've been very fond of that character since I was a boy and I get a little disappointed when people cringe about the Nationalistic part of the character. He's Captain AMERICA for goodness sake. Anyway, Sam W is, as we say in my country, a knockabout bloke and a decent actor. He'll do fine with or without Flash or Cap. Happy New Year all.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 4:03 a.m. CST

    no flash:) cap has been cast, and who cares about wrestling....

    by theDannerDaliel

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 4:44 a.m. CST

    Ryan Reynolds in Buried

    by MacReady452

    Reynolds. alone. in a coffin. 90 minutes. I think we will know if he can carry a movie after that.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 5:49 a.m. CST

    Australian Cap and an American Union Jack.

    by Dingbatty

    Or Captain Britain. No, how about an American Doctor Who? The Brits would declare war.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 5:50 a.m. CST

    Browder would've been perfect 10 years ago,

    by Dingbatty

    for Cap.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 5:52 a.m. CST

    Harry should've asked him if he is campaigning

    by Dingbatty

    for a Marvel role, as Sam has been photographed wearing Marvel T-shirts:<p>

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 8:10 a.m. CST


    by TheMandrakeRoot

    Uhh, okay, so you just summed up a movie in 13 paragraphs... <p> Now from the tone of your post (rather hateful for such an industry insider, no?) your obviously trying (and failing) way too hard to mock it, and in turn come of sounding like the worlds biggest bitch. Nothing new for you though, right?

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 8:13 a.m. CST

    Well mate, I dunno mate, mate

    by Spandau Belly

    Fuck, he types the word mate as often as Ocker stereotypes say it.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 8:16 a.m. CST


    by TheMandrakeRoot

    Count me as one who doesn't get the rabid hate this dude's getting. Sure he's probably gotten a role or two he doesn't really deserve, and his inexplicable rise to stardom is quite perplexing (and apparently grating for some), but he wasn't half bad in T4 and he was quite good in Avatar. He was dull in some scenes, but he acted the video-log scenes spot on...he also did a great job in motion-capture which can't be that easy. I saw Rogue which apparently he was in, but I can't remember, but he supposedly won some awards in Australia for one of his roles. I'm not saying he's a good actor, but despite being a little wooden at times (then again, he played a robot), there was nothing particularly bad about his acting. I'm gonna actually wait to see him in tough role before I viciously turn on him like most of you. <p> Oh and of course...he did a James Cameron movie. That's gotta be the only reason for his sudden rise...he's about to be in the highest grossing film of the year.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 8:23 a.m. CST

    he was good in rogue

    by Waka_Flocka_Flame


  • Jan. 2, 2010, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Holy Crap JettL93!

    by grisp

    That sounds like one hell of an interesting movie you just described there. I think I'll go see it again. <P> Hmmm... I wonder if people might like different movies for different reasons. Like an intellectual film for its plot twists and dialogue, and an action adventure film that's ground-breaking and flat out amazing to watch.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 8:24 a.m. CST

    He was her ex who was a cunt that came good

    by Waka_Flocka_Flame


  • Jan. 2, 2010, 8:28 a.m. CST

    lol i googled jett lucas...ugly mofo

    by Waka_Flocka_Flame


  • Jan. 2, 2010, 8:44 a.m. CST

    I hate Sam for this simple reason...

    by alienindisguise

    In interviews he said he never wanted to be an actor. Well it shows..he should have kept building houses in australia or work at fucking burger king. I hate these fucks who get opportunities without working for them. This dude brings nothing to the screen and Cameron was a fucking dumbass for hiring him.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 8:46 a.m. CST

    If Cap was played by a non-American, ehhh

    by terry1978

    It would be a tad unsettling. I know it's a movie, but I would feel a little uneasy about it. The dude's name is Captain America, then when he's interviewed he's busting out blimey and mate every other word.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 8:50 a.m. CST

    Can't they just redo the dialogue?

    by Shan

    I thought they always rerecord the dialogue afterwards anyway and loop it back in later. So, couldn't they just get the actor (in this case Worthington) to keep doing it all over again until it sounded American? <p> More simply why not make the character an Australian? Australians have been in the US marines before, I mean there's been ethnic Vietnamese in the Israeli defence forces so an Australian in the US Army isn't that strange.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 8:53 a.m. CST

    I don't think Sam Worthington is the worst thing ever...

    by JackIsLost

    Don't get me wrong, "Avatar" was a truly terrible film with stunning visuals and a message so simplistic and inane that I wanted to crawl out of my skin and James Cameron owes me $14 but I don't blame Sam for that. Still, I don't see the magic, the spark that is making so many directors/studios fall over themselves to put him in everything. As a screen presence, he is just kind of "there". The best thing I can say is that he doesn't make a bad movie worse... that's something, I guess.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 8:54 a.m. CST

    Harry, never be a casting director

    by wookie1972

    First you say that Jackie Earle Haley would be "perfect" for Sinestro, now you want to put thisd lump in everything?

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 9:01 a.m. CST


    by wookie1972

    It's not Worthing per se, it's the unimaginative casting that seems to be a big part of Hollywood (although it was never any different: they wanted Redford for everything in the 70s).

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 9:16 a.m. CST


    by SkidMarkedUndies

    SAY IT!

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 9:32 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    He brings the Kung Fu!!!

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 9:35 a.m. CST

    non-American being an "American" icon=

    by Meadowe

    Coo' by me. Batman and the Joker can be considered "American Icons" and we've seen how awesome what "foreigners" can do with those roles. Btw, FRANK LANGELLA AS RED SKULL would roq, I always thought his Skeletor was one bad mother.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Thank the Heavens!!!

    by FamousEccles

    BTW Harry, seeing as Worthington's only other e-mail to you contained the words "leave me alone you fucking loon", you can't really claim to be e-mailing back and forth "quite a bit".

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 9:50 a.m. CST

    how old is Cap meant to be in these movies

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    Needs to be a guy in his twenties who has a presence beyond his years, good luck casting

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 9:53 a.m. CST

    "love to see him in a L.A. CONFIDENTIAL type movie"

    by FamousEccles

    so you want him to be Russell Crowe?? Why not just watch Russell Crowe movies?? Worthington isn't fit to shit into the same sewer system as Nicholas Cage, let alone Russell Crowe!! This website is mad, I tell you!!

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 11:05 a.m. CST

    speaking of clash of the titans...

    by redkamel

    doesn't anyone else thinks the kraken looks really generic? Very forgettable. It looks like a reject from image comics in the 90's

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 11:44 a.m. CST


    by ColonelFatheart

    You're right about that. Paramount wanted Redford to play Michael Corleone for fuck's sake.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, noon CST


    by wookie1972

    If studios had their way, we would have had Redford, Beatty or Pacino for Superman, Vin Diesel for Hellboy, Sean Connery for Gandalf, Tom Cruise for a whole bunch of crap he's not suitable for, and Will Smith as Neo. Which might have been an improvement.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 12:04 p.m. CST


    by wookie1972

    It's simple. He seems like a decent enough guy, but he's being shoved down our throats as the next big thing, and we've been through this before, with Vin Diesel, Gerard Butler, Channing Tatum, Shia LaBeouf, Greetchen Mol, Megan Fox, etc. etc. I don't know anyone who would say "I'm going to see that movie because Sam Worthington's in it."

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Will Smith as Neo

    by ColonelFatheart

    Would have been interesting. I think Big Willie Style is a capable, sometimes interesting actor. His problem is that he has too much fucking power and so he does a lot of big, glossy bullshit with his a wisecracking hero or a martyr. I Am Legend could have been very good, and he was actually good through most of the picture, but his image and ego got in the way.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 12:36 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    "Sam Worthington tells me there's no truth to the scat rumors, but sometimes he does fancy the odd mayo dog."

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 12:38 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    mayo dog = a turd with spunk on<p> ...yes, i'm going things to an all new low and im taking y'all with me!

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Thank God- Flash Gordon 1980 is fucking perfection just give me

    by picardsucks

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 12:48 p.m. CST


    by picardsucks

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Donnie Yen as Cap -funniest BSB quote in awhile

    by picardsucks

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 12:52 p.m. CST

    And it's be a juiced up Bradley Cooper as Cap

    by picardsucks

    Bradley Cooper + Hugh Jackman, Gerard Butler and Jake of Persia's funny vitamins + a "hollywood personal trainer or the guy who can discreetly get stars steroids and tell them how to use them" = The nest Captain America - Bank on it bitches!

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Harry does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Harry you should be ashamed of the way you trolled TERMINATOR SALVATION. You savaged that movie worse than any other release in 2009.<p> There were hundreds of awful movies this year (as Massas and Capones list prove). Worthington has nothing to be ashamed of for TS. The man did a good job and held his own against one of the best actors of his generation. I enjoyed his performance and the movie.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Even that email message bored me to tears...

    by Linguo_IS_Dead

    and email is very exciting to me...sexually.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Professionalism does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    "Are you fuckin PROFESSIONAL!!?"<p> Bale did his professional rant *for* Sam Worthington.<p> He knew Sam was about to be working with Jim 'crew-killer' Cameron. He knew that if he went into that gig with any amateurism inside he would fold like a cheap suit. So he schooled him.<p> That which does not kill us, makes us professional.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Jealousy much?

    by andrew coleman

    Just reading some of these comments is making me depressed for the people writing them. "He's horrible!" "Sammy Worthless" blah blah blah... You can just sense the jealousy. So now he's in big time movies and rich as hell. Probably shags the fuck out of any hot chick in Hollywood. So you come here and act like babies and cry about him. Pathetic. I think he's a fine actor maybe not for Captain American, but he's still good. Hell he was the only thing keeping Salvation a float. So maybe next time leave that jealousy bull shit at the door and cry somewhere else please.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Hi, I'm spectrebeeyatch

    by baghead

    And you know what, I think all of you are jealous and mean! And you know what, I like Sam Worthington. I think he's good. And because I think he's good, you thinking he isn't is WRONG! See how black and white opinions are? Mine are right, yours are wrong. And you know what, I love Harry Knowles. I wish he was my friend in real life. Just like Sam Worthington and Sigourney Weaver. Sometimes I put my finger in my butt when I think about how in the future, I will be friends with all the cool people.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 2:01 p.m. CST

    He's not horrible

    by Toonol

    He was just cast in two big roles as nearly the same, inexpressive, character. When he was actually cutting loose he was better... unfortunately, that mainly happened in his avatar body.<p> He does need to do a completely different character, though. A comedy or romance. And grow some hair.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 2:23 p.m. CST


    by wookie1972

    Bingo. I think that the whole point of this article was so that Harry could say "Sam Worthington emails me!" Real journalists (even entertainment journalists) aren't friends with their subjects (although Harry is fooling himself if he thinks "Sam" is using him for anything other than publicity.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 2:25 p.m. CST


    by wookie1972

    Yeah, I, who have never had any aspirations towards acting, am jealous of the flavour-of-the-month "actor." Or could it be that we just think he's not a very good actor?

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 2:26 p.m. CST


    by wookie1972

    Yeah, I, who have never had any aspirations towards acting, am jealous of the flavour-of-the-month "actor." Or could it be that we just think he's not a very good actor?

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Channing Tatum

    by tehgreekhammer

    is going to be your Captain America. Bank on it bitches. Cuz Captain America should talk like a wigger.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 3:33 p.m. CST

    how is this guy getting any work at all???

    by slappy jones

    no charisma, can't act, not even all that good looking. it is fucking astounding how he has gotten as far a he has. and i have seen his "wonderful" aussie work and he was shit in those as well.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Wait... did Jett just claim he wrote Avatar?

    by Jaka

    Is that what I read up there? Dude... seek. professional. help.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Hello mate

    by Tumor_Binks

    Well mate, just wanted to do the matey thing and let you and your mates know that this mate wanted to be talked about just a little bit more so I could show my mates at the studios that I was the matey mate for all their tent pole epics. TerminMater, Clash of the Mates and Ave Another Fosters Matey (finally shortened to Avatar) will be followed by Captain Matey, My Mate Gordon, and hopefully Spidey Mate 4.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Capt. America Already Cast on IMBB Pro

    by cowboyone

    It's listed as Jensen Ackles from Supernatural, and frankly, I think he'll pull it off! 6'2", handsome, good build, GREAT voice. I think it'd be great to see a relative new-comer in an iconic role like that.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 3:55 p.m. CST

    I heard Worthington gave Bale the idea....

    by jaysin420

    for the Batman voice.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 4:01 p.m. CST

    spectrebeeyatch, no-one is jealous of Sam Worthington

    by FamousEccles

    watch some of his movies and you'll see for yourself. like slappy jones I had seen his so called work long before his name was linked to Avatar - sheer cat, so it is!!

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 4:23 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    "TerminMater, Clash of the Mates and Ave Another Fosters Matey (finally shortened to Avatar)"<p> Tumor_Binks, mate that is fucking funny!

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 4:30 p.m. CST


    by Tumor_Binks

    No problem, mate. Now just gotta get back to me barB and then go an kick-me pomme mates arse before heading out to shag a few kangaroo Sheilas with ma mate Crocoshite Dundee.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 4:36 p.m. CST


    by Tumor_Binks

    Doesn't list any cast on IMDB Pro BUT it does list Jack Kirby and Joe Simon as writers. :-)

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 4:49 p.m. CST

    hes not a bad actor

    by Ashs_Right_Hand

    what he really needs is a role where hes australian, he was real good in rogue that crocodile movie,,,looks wise he'd be ight for cap but he hasnt learned how to lose his accent yet

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 5:07 p.m. CST

    And say what you will about Avatar

    by wookie1972

    But name an actor who rose from obscurity by being in a Cameron movie. Arnold, Leo, Sigourney and Kate don't count, because they were all big before. (Even Bill Paxton was in Weird Science) But when was the last time you saw Michael Biehn, Jeannette Goldstein, or Lance Henrickson?

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 5:12 p.m. CST


    by Curious Jorge

    You are spot on. Alexander Skarsgard and Chris Hemsworth as Captain America. I would also throw in that Paul Walker should be tapped to play Flash Gordon.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 5:29 p.m. CST

    From the minute I saw him in Star Trek

    by tehgreekhammer

    I knew Kirks daddy should have played Captain America. And ever since I saw Skaarsgard with the long hair in True Blood I thought hed be perfect for Thor. Hes even Scandinavian for gods sake. And he's like 6'4 or 6'5. Ah well.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 5:30 p.m. CST


    by Tumor_Binks

    Lance Hendriksen had been in several more movies than Sigourney when Aliens was made. Michael Biehn has always been working as well, just never made it as a star. Predator made Arnold's career not Terminator. He was still doing crap like Raw Deal and Red Sonja after T1 was wrapped. The biggest star of all Cameron's movies is Cameron and quite rightly so. All crapping on Sam aside, he does show the possibility to rise up like Mel did, just as long as he doesn't do Hamlet.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Sam's accent fluctuations didn't bother me in Avatar

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

    In some ways it makes sense that Earth languages and accents will cross pollinate in 150 years due to the global impact of the Internet. Now, if he were to play Captain America —— that's another story.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Sam Worthington tells me

    by Bellam

    that he wants to go steady and meet him behind the portables, but I feel awkward about public oral, what should I do?

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 7:55 p.m. CST

    The cpn America suite is hillarious

    by tradeskilz

    cant wait to laugh at it on the big screen. "For AMERICA!" *Throws stars and stipes shield* *Loud laughs from the audience*

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 8:36 p.m. CST

    Jensen Ackles would be my second choice for Cap

    by MacReady452

    after Charlie Hunnam and Chrostopher Waltz as The Red Skull is a bingo.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 9:37 p.m. CST

    Ackles is your second choice behind Hunnam?

    by Shermdawg

    I dunno, I like Sons and all, but the kid isn't that great. And seriously, do you really wanna see Cap doing the Jax gangster strut? I give it Josh Holloway way before I'd consider Charlie.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 9:46 p.m. CST

    Jensen Anckles?!?!

    by antonphd

    oh guys, please, stop with the CW tv stars.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 10:25 p.m. CST

    No BacardiRocky, Bullshit on your jingoistic hate

    by Tall_Boy66

    Where an actor was born DOES. NOT. FUCKING. MATTER. Period. Zero. Nadda. It's called acting. Try, please, to point out in a rational, logical way how the country where a certain actor was squatted out of a broad's bloody vagina would have ANY BEARING upon their ability to play Captain America. And try to do it without sounding like a jingoistic fucktard. Go ahead. I dare you.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 11 p.m. CST

    We'll never see a American play Bond.

    by Shermdawg

    If there was ever a role for us to be stingy with, it's Cap.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 11:13 p.m. CST

    I'm going to agree with Sherm, there

    by Jaka

    Because I don't think an American SHOULD play Bond. So I can certainly agree with the opposite being applied to whomever ends up playing Caps.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 11:40 p.m. CST

    I really wanna see Holloway in.... ANYTHING

    by MacReady452

    but once again..he is to old to play Cap. I also have to agree that there will never be an American Bond. I say Hunnam or Ackles only because on a really basic level the casting is almost irrelevant. The character sells the movie from jump and the man behind the mask only has to be a decent actor not a mega star. I think any studio making a "comic" movie is shooting themselves in the foot casting big names because you use up half the budget right off the bat. Cast a smaller name witha cult following and dump the rest of the cash in production. Honestly I just wanna see cool ass shit on the screen. I don't care if I "know" the guy saying it.<p>Now someone will say something like,"..we need to get other people who might not be familiar with the property in the theater..".<p>A. No<p>B. You never heard of Captain America?<p>C. Fuck those people.<p>D. Ever heard of DP? Neither did anyone else before it came out with no name actors.<p>On a completely unrelated topic. I was thinking that Copley came screaming into the A-Team(a big blockbuster) and I see no sign of Christopher Waltz anywhere. Weather you liked Basterds or not you have to admit that he was astounding and if he doesn't win Best Supporting Actor I will blow up Hollywood. So my point is where the fuck is his next project? That is why I call for him as the Red Skull. I can only assume he is waiting for the little gold man to shoot his asking price into the stratosphere.

  • Jan. 2, 2010, 11:42 p.m. CST

    D9 not DP

    by MacReady452

    although District 9 did Penetrate me deeply.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:34 a.m. CST

    I don't get how where someone is born matters

    by Tall_Boy66

    fucking mindblowing to me. Who gives a God's honest shit? And there hasn't been a single, rational reason. It all sounds like "cuz we're Americans and Cap has to be American". Do you have any idea how retarded that sounds?

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:36 a.m. CST

    What if the guy who plays Cap was born in Korea?

    by Tall_Boy66

    But he was born on a US base, thus counting as American soil? Would that fucking work for you people?

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:37 a.m. CST

    Forget Sammy. Tony Cox as Cap

    by beane2099

    That's how it's going down. After his sterling performances in Me, Myself and Irene, and Bad Santa, the producers would be crazy NOT to cast him. I would pay money for this.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:43 a.m. CST

    It's totally retarded...

    by Shermdawg

    ...yet it's one of the few characters that would justify that type of retardation.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:44 a.m. CST

    Actually, it's pretty much the only character...

    by Shermdawg

    ...I can think of that would justify it.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:48 a.m. CST

    What if Cap had Down Syndrome?!!!

    by MacReady452

    they wouldn't even need the super soldier serum cause he would already have retard strength. So now we just need a black, Korean-born, midget with down syndrome and we can begin production.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:48 a.m. CST

    Another thing, no more Aussies and English...

    by Shermdawg

    ...talent doing big budget southern epics. The world DOES NOT need another Cold Mountain. <br><br> That also applies to Natalie Portman.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:51 a.m. CST

    Mister T as Hirohito!

    by LastOfTheV8Interceptors

    Sure, he's American, but it could work!

  • well as Englishmen. Even the most important Miss Moneypenny was Canadian, if the actor has class and can do the accent why can't Bond be played by an American? I'm English and couldn't give a monkey's where the actor comes from as long as he/she does the job well. The only time I ever thought WTF? was Dick Van Dyke's 'performance' in Mary Poppins...arghh.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 3:04 a.m. CST

    I hope Cap is playing by a non American

    by antonphd

    i want to see how fast the studio stops giving even the slightest remnant of a fuck about what geeks think about the film when a bunch of them freak out about what race the actor is. it will be a beautiful thing to watch.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 4:02 a.m. CST

    James Bond HAS been played by an American

    by Tourettesfreakinsyndrome

    Barry Nelson...on TV in the fifties. I googled it. So all bets are off. Except, please no Sam Worthington for Captain America.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 7:13 a.m. CST

    Sam is my new hero

    by dfinch01

    It might not count for much, but I'm only a degree and a bit of separation from him, so I feel like I need to back him up a bit. I thought the new Terminator attempt was abysmal, but thought Sam was the only redeeming feature. We don't have THAT many actors that make it big, so when one comes along that doesn't over-act it's refreshing. I don't find him boring, just reserved and subtle. Something that Hollywood should take note of (and seems to be). With regard to the accent. He's from Western Australia, which is a bit different from the typical lathered on Aussie accent Hollywood seems to demand. As an Aussie, I can't stand that overbearing accent in films as unpatriotic as it seems. When I watched Avatar it made me feel so proud that one of us had the balls to just be themselves. With regard to Captain America and 007. If the cannon states that they should be from a particular country.. why not stick to that or at least act as though they're from there. If it is so necessary to go against the grain of the canon, why not just make a different movie?

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 8:15 a.m. CST

    dfinch01, seriously in what way was Worthington

    by FamousEccles

    T4's "only redeeming feature". Moon Bloodgood is fantastic actress by comparison. As a no-talent for anything waster myself I take some delight in the fact that Worthington has (at least temporarily) hit the big time - success in spite of no talent - but as a movie lover I am appalled at the streak of shit he is leaving across my favourite type of movies. I take comfort in the fact though that he won't be around for long. He only got roles in T4 and Titans, because he is the lead in Cameron's big return. He is getting project after project because the suits know he has a name at the moment. It reminds me of Colin Farrell's rise to stardom. He went from one movie set to another before any of his films hit the screen. The difference is Farrell had the talent and praise of his directors to back it up. Let's face it, sooner or later Worthington is going to have to take a role that requires actual acting - where he and not the special effects will have to carry the movie. That will be the end of that and then he'll get a few gigs in SyFy Original movies.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 8:33 a.m. CST

    "freak out about what race the actor is"

    by Shermdawg

    Race is a whole other issue. In fact I'm disappointed they're not getting Smith or a African American for Cap. Working the Tuskegee Airmen into the mythos would only improve things.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 8:36 a.m. CST

    or, a African American...

    by Shermdawg

    heh, well that certainly came out awkward. Though, with his induction into the Scientology Hall of Fame Smith could of very well lost his African American status.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 9:06 a.m. CST

    shit, have those freaks got their hands on the Fresh Prince now?

    by FamousEccles

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Also, bending the origin a bit to age the character...

    by Shermdawg

    ...would also benefit the story if it would allow the huge pool of guys that would be perfect for the role a shot at it by making Cap older, then they should do it. Ya gotta have someone big enough to stand up to RDJ and as good as some as these kids may...or may not be, it'll be hard to get behind them as it would a Damon, Holloway, or whoever.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 9:15 a.m. CST


    by Shermdawg

    Tom got to Jada. She was all like..."Honey, we're scientologists now.". And Will was all like..."AW HELLLLL NAW!!!". And me and Jet were like... "Damn, that sucks, dude." We were there going over the early draft of the Fresh Prince reboot script. He actually wanted Jamie Fox to play Carlton. Can you believe that?

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 9:56 a.m. CST


    by wookie1972

    I see where you're coming from, but really, Cap should be a fresh-faced young recruit, dare I say it an unknown (which would mean getting a big name to play the Red Skull. Having the big name play the villain is a gamble, but it worked for the first Superman and Batman). I think having a black actor play Cap would be a mistake, because it just wouldn't be true to the period. (The US army wasn't even integrated at that point, and having a black man lead white troops would just be too anachronistic. I know that it was racist, but I think changing the history would be disingenuous.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 9:58 a.m. CST

    It's not about Worthington being born in Oz...

    by wookie1972

    it's that he is obviously culturally an Aussie. Then again, I'd love to see Fillion, even though he's Canadian. (You Yanks had no problem with an Aussie playing the GREATEST CANADIAN HERO)

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Tony Cox

    by wookie1972

    Only if BIlly Bob plays the Red Skull. "What the f*ck you talking about?"

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 9:58 a.m. CST

    sorry, the line was

    by wookie1972

    "Are you f*cking with me?"

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 10:03 a.m. CST

    MisterManReturns had it right, though

    by wookie1972

    The key words in the headline were "TELLS ME," otherwise this would be a non-story.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Other roles for Sam

    by redkamel

    Worthington might have actually made a good wolverine. Better than that fop Hugh Jackman. Although the best Wolverine would be Clint Eastwood 30 years ago.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Another good Wolvie...

    by Shermdawg

    Ian McShane.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 10:47 a.m. CST


    by smackfu

    William Lyon Mackenzie? Or the Bud the Spud guy?

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 10:50 a.m. CST

    redkamel, shermdog

    by wookie1972

    In the comics, Wolverine is supposed to be 5 feet and a pinch. And Canadian. (Yeah, I can't think of a good, short Canadian actor. Whatever).

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 11:06 a.m. CST

    The difference in that though is...

    by Shermdawg

    ...Wolverine ain't Major Maple Leaf. If they were casting Guardian, the Canadian equivalent of Captain America (and I use that comparison lightly), then yeah, by all means, the Canucks should be pissy about it.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 11:25 a.m. CST


    by wookie1972

    We Canadians don't have much. Let us have Wolverine. Guardian is a lightweight, and few people have heard of him. And I would argue that the fact that Wolverine *isn't* "Major Maple Leaf" makes him all the more Canadian. But you have to admit that Jackman is way too f*cking tall.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:05 p.m. CST

    sam = harisson ford with better acting skills

    by ominus

    he already is a star in his own franchise,he just needs some good artistic movies to show off his talents,which he does have. <p>he was the only good thing in TS,and he did a great job in Avatar both as jake and navi. <p>i understand what Jim saw on him,he combines both toughness and sensitivity,but most importantly,despite being a hero,he retains the 'ordinary guy' appeal,its someone you can relate to. <p>i hope his COTT movie becomes a hit so he can permanently establish himself as a superstar in Holywood.Other fagots who are not even actors,have become superstars,i dont understand why Sam,who also seems a very decent guy irl, should not have his chance. <p>you dont like him fine,but dont hate him.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:07 p.m. CST

    "Captain America should be played by an American."

    by buggerbugger

    And, most importantly, the person they pick to portray him should be a captain in real life. None of this "civilian actor" crap.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:12 p.m. CST


    by wookie1972

    get the f*ck out of here. Better than Harrison Ford? Seriously? As for him being "a star in his own franchise," get a grip. Avatar could have starred Carrot Top and it would have done the same business.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Captain America should also be gay

    by ominus

    just like in the comics,with Bucky and all that.if you want to respect the source material,you have to go all the way with it.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:16 p.m. CST

    wookie1972 nope you are totally wrong.

    by ominus


  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:19 p.m. CST


    by wookie1972

    First of all, facts are not opinions. Second of all, again, are you seriously saying that he's a better actor than Ford? That's our only choices - either hate him or think that he's a better actor than one of the top stars of the past three decades? And are you seriously claiming that the people who are flocking to Avatar are doing so because of Worthington's performance?

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:24 p.m. CST

    wookie1972, I'm going to Avatar next week in spite

    by FamousEccles

    of Worthington. And to show that Cameron fellow that I really want to forgive him for Titanic.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:26 p.m. CST

    tehgreekhammer, same here about Hemsworth and

    by FamousEccles

    Skarsgard. I seriously think Branagh got the names mixed up.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:32 p.m. CST


    by wookie1972

    I really don't want to hate on the guy, although I'm dumbfounded by the new version of Clash Of The Titans, which might as well be called 301 (say what you will about Hamlin, he looked like a Greek hero). I just think the idea that "He's Perfect" for everything falls under the hoary cliche of every other new hot actor. Just in my lifetime I've had Mark Hamill, Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, Keanu Reeves, Alec Baldwin (okay, that one turned out okay in the end), Michael Biehn, David Boreanaz (okay as a TV actor, but a feature star? NFW), Hayden Christiansen, Ashton Kutcher (a serious frontrunner for Batman Begins), Gerard Butler, and now this dude. Sigh.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:39 p.m. CST

    wookie1972 superstar does not equate great actor

    by ominus

    and that is also a fact.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:40 p.m. CST

    ominus, you're fucking taking the piss, right?

    by FamousEccles

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:42 p.m. CST

    ominus, your right that star and actor are two different things

    by FamousEccles

    Worthington is neither. What's your point?

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:43 p.m. CST

    ominus, "taking the piss" was refering to the Harrison Ford comm

    by FamousEccles

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:43 p.m. CST

    famouseccles you are wrong

    by ominus


  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:47 p.m. CST

    wookie1972, I' don't hate the guy either. As I said earlier

    by FamousEccles

    he has succeed at something despite having no talent for it. It is something I hope for someday. It's just a shame he is popping up in the types of movies I like the most. The "hot new star" is meaningless with the skill to back it up - Colin Farrell can, this guy can't.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:48 p.m. CST

    ominus, I am not. I just don't agree agree with your opinion.

    by FamousEccles

    which considering you compared this guy to Indiana Jones doesn''t count for shit.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:55 p.m. CST

    i didnt compare him with Indiana Jones..

    by ominus

    and you know what? that is indeed,also a fact.ha.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 12:58 p.m. CST

    No, superstar does not equal a great actor.

    by wookie1972

    And at the moment, Worthington is neither. Fact.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:06 p.m. CST

    as well

    by wookie1972

    Trash the prequels all you want. Say Crystal Skull was shit, fine. But to say that Harrison Ford isn't as good as some guy who's been in exactly two movies that anyone would have heard of (one of which was almost universally reviled) and them's fighting words.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:08 p.m. CST


    by wookie1972

    wow, I didnt read your post when I saw that you said exactly the same thing. Sorry.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:08 p.m. CST

    ominus, you did compare him to to Indiana Jones.

    by FamousEccles

    Harrison Ford is Indiana Jones. So there.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Colin Farrell

    by wookie1972

    is, like Alec Baldwin, an example of the fact that it's what you do *After* you're the Next Big Thing that really matters. Farrell's had some ups and downs, but he was fricking brilliant in In Bruges.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:17 p.m. CST

    wookie1972..........shouldn't you be packing your bags?

    by DrMorbius

    INRE: Avatar, you know, promising to leave AICN for good if Avatar beat TDK at the BO. And it only took 17 days to do it! See ya, wouldn't want to be ya!

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:20 p.m. CST


    by wookie1972

    I'm a man of my word, and I will, when it does, which it hasn't. Neither domestically (which is what I meant) nor internationally. It's still got a ways to go.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:23 p.m. CST

    DrMorbius, how can a movie have more body

    by FamousEccles

    odour than an electronics company? that makes no sense unless you were referring to the employees of both, in which case you phrased it badly.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:25 p.m. CST

    wookie1972, I don't want you to leave but appatently it has

    by FamousEccles

    made over a billion worldwide.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:26 p.m. CST

    wookie1972, I don't want you to leave but apparently it has

    by FamousEccles

    it has made a billion worldwide.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:26 p.m. CST

    My apologies to Harrison Ford....

    by jaysin420

    for whatever mentally retarded person compared him to Worthington. People should get banned for typing something so ignorant.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:27 p.m. CST

    DrMorbius, box office takings are no measure of quality.

    by FamousEccles

    Titanic for example.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:28 p.m. CST

    jaysin420, Amen to that, brother!!

    by FamousEccles

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:32 p.m. CST


    by wookie1972

    So it has. However, I did mean domestic. If anyone bothered to go back to the original conversation, you'd see that I was talking about TDK coming within spitting distance of TItanic's $600 million domestic, and it is so far the only movie that has come close. it was TDK's $533 domestic that was impressive. In any case, whatever, it's been fun.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:32 p.m. CST


    by DrMorbius

    Nothing to do with 'a measure of quality' to me, but it apparently did to wookie1972. Why don't you ask him why it was so important that TDK made more money.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Actually, box office is no measure of anything.

    by FamousEccles

    Would DARK KNIGHT have made that kind of money if Ledger was still alive. The lad's death created the hype and was the real reason why audiences flocked to it (I say that as someone with TDK in their top ten movies of all time). If Ledger had died after filming IMAGINARIUM the hype would have gone there instead, as it is people are fickle bitches and Ledger was old news by then. AVATAR is succeeding financially on hype alone. Lots of great movies fail financially. Lots of terrible movies succeed in box office.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:37 p.m. CST


    by wookie1972

    I don't think Box Office is what's most important. However, that did seem to be the measure that others were going by. I made the bet because I thought Avatar would be like King Kong, a recouper but not a lasting hit. I'm man enough to admit I was wrong.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:38 p.m. CST

    I don't really care about the bet.....

    by DrMorbius

    ...just the whole my movie is better than your movie, you suck, you don't know what a good movie is, box office doesn't equate to quality, my dad can beat up your dad etc. It's just the inanity of it all!

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:39 p.m. CST

    FamousEccles... I don't know

    by wookie1972

    Imaginarium is a hard sell. It's a flawed movie, although I don't know how much of that is because they had to work around Ledger's death. Looked beautiful, however.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:39 p.m. CST


    by wookie1972

    That's a bit rich, considering the constant rants on here about CAMERON HATURZ and how "you lost, Cameron won."

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:40 p.m. CST

    DrMorbius, I addressed it to you as you brought the box

    by FamousEccles

    office question up here. I did not mean to imply that is was important to you. I was merely acknowledging you entrance to the conversation.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:42 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    wookie1972, just come back as wookie1973 - you'll be like Dr Who regenerating after taking a pwning.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:42 p.m. CST

    DrMorbius, you appear to have been mistaken about the details of

    by FamousEccles

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:43 p.m. CST

    the bet.

    by FamousEccles

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:47 p.m. CST

    wookie1972, I didn't mean that IMAGINARIUM would

    by FamousEccles

    hit the billion mark, but that if it was released closer to his death like TDK was, it would have done tremendous at the box office. A hell of a lot of people went to see TDK because of Ledger's death, not the movie (an insult to the movie) and Ledger would never have received an Oscar for a role in a superhero movie if he hadn't died. That was just that Hollywood bullshit. No9t saying he didn't deserve it but he only got it for dying.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Peter Dinklage should play Harrison Ford

    by beane2099

    in a game of celebrity poker. That was the end of that sentence.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 1:57 p.m. CST


    by DrMorbius

    I have not a burning desire for you to leave AICN, I remember reading your comment and promise in another thread and was wondering what your reply would be now. Your reply " enough to admit I was wrong."..was all that was needed for me. Please DO NOT leave these boards, AICN exists because of the diversity of its tbers, all are needed, it was just...

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 2 p.m. CST


    by DrMorbius

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 2:03 p.m. CST

    FamousEccles you are using semantics

    by ominus

    shame on you boy,for avoiding facts.oh well.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 2:16 p.m. CST

    ominus, just admit yopu

    by FamousEccles

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 2:16 p.m. CST

    ominus, just admit yopu

    by FamousEccles

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 2:16 p.m. CST

    ominus, just admit yopu

    by FamousEccles

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 2:16 p.m. CST

    ominus, just admit yopu

    by FamousEccles

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 2:17 p.m. CST

    ominus, just admit you are wrong and ask can

    by FamousEccles

    you take it back.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 2:18 p.m. CST

    How did that happen?

    by FamousEccles

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 2:20 p.m. CST

    there there take it easy boy,deep breaths

    by ominus

    breath in,breath out,just relax,we dont want you to get a brain damage or a heart attack and lose you.breath in,breath out,wax on,wax off.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 2:22 p.m. CST

    the Backspace key will be the death of me :)

    by FamousEccles

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 2:26 p.m. CST

    heh,just click once the post button

    by ominus

    and leave it a few seconds for the page to takes a while if the page is big,but at least you avoid multi-posting the same post.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 2:30 p.m. CST

    I didn't touch it. I hit the backspace key trying

    by FamousEccles

    fix my spelling.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 3 p.m. CST


    by wookie1972

    I see what you mean. I think that there *may* have been a campaign for LEdger for Parnassus if he hadn't already won for Dark Knight, but Dark Knight is, frankly, the superior movie. (Why can't Gilliam catch a break? Did he film on an Indian burial ground or something?)

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 3:01 p.m. CST

    DrMorbius (and I will try to make this my last post!)

    by wookie1972

    I'll admit it was more an excuse to leave. TBing brings out a lot of unhealthy habits in me - snarkiness, argumentativeness, etc. And I really get tired of the "pwning," "FTW," etc. comments. It's all just movies, people. I just hope we can agree that Mr. Worthington, though he seems to be a nice enough guy, has a LONG way to go before he reaches the skill or popularity of Harrison Ford. Anyway, I really should go.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 3:07 p.m. CST

    wookie1972.......No reason to leave...

    by DrMorbius

    Agreed with the 'pwning' 'FTW' and whatnot, read my post above, everyone is needed here. Also agreed on the last part of your post, maybe CLASH will show us something.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 4:31 p.m. CST

    wookie1972 pls dont leave

    by ominus

    we always need the trolls to laugh at. :P

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 4:59 p.m. CST

    agreed with wookie 1972

    by MacReady452

    "Why can't Gilliam catch a break? Did he film on an Indian burial ground or something?" Between the Quioxti film and this Gilliam is gonna have a heart attack soon. I would put him at the top of the DeadPool.<p>What I really love though is that at this point he seems to have said,"FUCK YOU adversity!" Crucial actor dies? "FUCK YOU!" We will use someone else. NATO jets, flash floods, swollen prostate? "FUCK YOU!" He will come back and make that fuckin movie. LOVE that fuckin guy.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 6:03 p.m. CST

    wookie 1972

    by mr dark

    come on pal ...its time for a group hug.. It's the brevity of the boards that is key here..I value your opinions even if they are shite. That is where the fun factor is...buck up buddy..

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 6:26 p.m. CST


    by Tumor_Binks

    was cool. I actually liked it and recommended it (provided you were a Gilliam fan). Considering Ledger couldn't see the role through, Gilliam deserves some real credit for pulling it together as much as he did. I just watched T:Salvation again and for what he had to work with, Sam did okay.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 6:28 p.m. CST

    As far as Harrison Ford

    by miniglik

    I don't know what ominus is going on about with the "Fact" stuff, but I actually do find Worthington's rise to fame to be a little like Harrison Ford's: "everyman" carpenter-turned-actor with debatably limited range who just got cast in the right roles. Ford got more range over the years and he got to play scoundrels and rogues in his first big roles (which always seem more charismatic). But I can see the similarity. I think only time will tell if Worthington has anything to offer other than playing a likeable stoic. I did see "Rogue" and I liked him in it, but it wasn't a huge role. Eh.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 6:47 p.m. CST


    by AICNsucks

    He really put 'mate' into his email? Not once, but twice? Either he's a douche, auditioning for the inevitable reboot of "Crocodile Dundee" or he thinks we can only relate to Aussies when they are stereotypical. Personally, I think Harry's either making up the email or editing it because I see nothing from his infantile mind that wouldn't think 'mate' should be liberally sprinkled into the text. <p> As for JettL93's summation of "Avatar," deep down in the places you dont want to talk about, you know he's right. I'm sure that even George Lucas thought the dialogue was atrocious and the plot ridiculous. But, hey, we all got our eyeballs raped and apparently thats all the dumbasses want in a $350M pic.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 7:17 p.m. CST

    ease up guys, wookie1972 only meant he had to

    by FamousEccles

    go away and do other things - you know real life stuff. he'll be back.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 7:23 p.m. CST

    miniglik, Worthington has been acting for quite some time

    by FamousEccles

    and he hasn't shown an ounce of talent yet. still got to the top despite it. kinda he reminds me of Charlie Haughey and Bertie Ahern - I admire their sheer brazenness in getting away with, but that doesn't change the fact they were/are cunts.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 8:31 p.m. CST

    re: AICNsucks

    by OutlawsDelejos

    Australians say mate all the time, even when you want to fight someone. i.e "Back up mate or I'll kick your fucking head in". So no, Harry didn't edit the fucking email.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 8:44 p.m. CST


    by Jaka

    I think you're making an assumption that a vast majority of us would a) run up to a celebrity, and b) call them by their first names when/if real world interaction took place (some, sure - but most, I don't think so). This isn't the real world, as should be plainly clear by the way people "speak" to each other here. People DON'T speak that way to each other in the real world, unless they really enjoy not having any friend and/or teeth. To the point, do you really expect every post in every talkback to refer to each and every actor or actress by their surname with the appropriate honorific attached? Because, really, that's kind of silly.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 8:48 p.m. CST

    AICNsucks, uhh no

    by Jaka

    I don't think anything about Jetts summation was "right". Not in the slightest. I also found very little of the dialogue to be atrocious (and far better than most of the prequels) or the plot ridiculous. Both were simple, sure. But that's not the same thing.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 9:03 p.m. CST

    Cameron was never good at dialogue anyway, just

    by FamousEccles

    the visuals . It was in Arnie's delivery.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 9:27 p.m. CST

    The Avatar Naysayers are now eating crow!!!!!!!!!

    by Gseif7

    I would agree that box office does not dictate a good movie. Look at Transformers and Transformers 2 as a perfect example. Two of the worst movies I've ever seen, and they were HUGE at the box office. With that being said, there is a part of me that is finding some vindication with Avatar's success at the box office. If you recall, there was a VERY vocal group (Trannyformersaplogist being one of the most vocal) that kept quoting over, and over again, that not only would Avatar suck, but that it would be a box office disaster. Too see someone rip a movie sight unseen so badly, and to clearly have such a biased negative campaign against a movie, FAIL on pretty much every level, gives those of us who believed and have faith a certain vindication that feels pretty damn good. Of coursse he's still going to rip on it, and he won't admit he's wrong, but that's ok, because he's not fooling anybody with his bullshit anymore. The facts are now there with the boxoffice, as well as with the critical and general population!! I think it's a beautiful thing!!!

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 9:29 p.m. CST

    the only "celeb" I refer to by first name is Samuel

    by FamousEccles

    L. Jackson - by first name I mean Sam (though maybe he prefers Samuel, I don't know) - I don't know why. Just always been that way. I had to force myself to even write his whole name just now!!!

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 9:41 p.m. CST

    OK, "Worthington", maybe...

    by Jaka

    ... but not Mr. Worthington. And strictly speaking for myself, I disagree with you, but ONLY about boards like this. It's all made up silliness; the expressing of opinions about things that 95% of us have nothing to do with other than watching the end product. I'm sure you're correct about the real world though. Because I have no faith in humanity and can't say I've ever experienced such things myself. Me, if I did run in to, saaay, Liam Neeson in a situation where it would be appropriate to tell him how much I respect his work, I would call him Mr. Neeson. But here, on this board, no way! I'm going to call him Liam because that's the type of vernacular you use in an imaginary setting - very much like many of the movies we watch and/or love. "Damn, Liams really channeling Peppard's Hannibal Smith in that pic." "Yeah he is. Looks like he'd kick Georges ass, too" "What?! Fuck you! George Peppard would whoop Liam five ways from Sunday!" (third guy chimes in with a bad Mr. T impression) "I pitty the fool who touches Liam Neeson!" I don't think most of us are speaking in familiarities, we're speaking in fantasticals. If free flowing thoughts spewed out on to a movie news sites "talkback". It ain't a formal interaction with real people.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 9:41 p.m. CST

    Gseif7, while I agree that it is foolish to rip into a

    by FamousEccles

    movie before even seeing it, I have to say that the other side is equally foolish with cries of "eyeball raping" without having seen it either. As I said earlier (and seeing as you too hold the opinion) that box office is no proof of a movie being any good, it just means it's getting bums on seats. This means we must turn to critics and audience reaction. I hold any regard for critics opinions of anything. Pretty much a useless profession if you ask me. They should actually just get a real job. No asshole is going to form an opinion for me, thank you very much. So this leaves us with what the audience is saying on the way out f the theatre. Not much from what I hear. Nobody is putting it down, but no one is praising it either. People seem to be forgetting it as they walk out and discussing other things.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 9:42 p.m. CST

    * It's

    by Jaka

    I really am starting to agree about that edit function.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 9:43 p.m. CST

    All this talk about Avatar box office not mattering...

    by Jaka

    ...reminds me VERY MUCH of the fact that many people did and still do HATE Titanic. That's about all I have to add to that for the moment.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 9:47 p.m. CST


    by Jaka

    Really? I mean, really? Where are you getting that information from, exactly. Because every trade, every newspaper and entertainment website (uhhh, like this one!) are VERY MUCH FILLED with people talking about their impressions of Avatar. It's actually nearly impossible to NOT find people discussing their impressions of Avatar. Methinks you're trying a bit to hard to hate here. Also, Rotten Apples, IMDb and a hundred other websites have user based (which is to say, regular people who have seen the movie) ratings systems and all of them are at 80% and above on the positive side (a lot of them are above 90%). That hasn't happened in like, forever. Especially on Rotten Tomatoes where EVERYBODY hates EVERYTHING.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 9:48 p.m. CST


    by MacReady452

    I love the "suck it haters" crowd. Like just cause you were skeptical or had some reservations based on the very questionable early footage, and may have had some fun at the unreleased movies expense, they think you were wrong on all levels and are now receiving it IN YOUR FACE. Sure, it was GOOD not GREAT. I walked out thinking I would 100% be back for seconds. I haven't really had that urge though. I hate "hate" haters. AVATARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 9:48 p.m. CST

    And by "people

    by Jaka

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 9:48 p.m. CST

    And by "people"....

    by Jaka

    ...I DO mean regular folk, not critics.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 9:49 p.m. CST

    by Jaka

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 9:49 p.m. CST

    lol - WTH is going on with my PC

    by Jaka

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 9:50 p.m. CST

    the only famous person I ever meet was Colm Meaney

    by FamousEccles

    bloody nice guy. I never said his name though. I was only passing by a looking for a clean toilet to take a piss and he was between takes. Couldn't go and not say hello.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 9:50 p.m. CST

    "I hate 'hate' haters"

    by Jaka

    Is now officially one of my favorite ever posts at AICN. If Flicka hadn't knocked that grand slam outta da park over in another thread today this one would place even higher.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 9:57 p.m. CST

    I would geek out if I met MEANEY

    by Jaka

    As a total Star Trek geek he's one that I most glad has had a career after those shows. He always seemed a notch above most of the other actors, kinda like Patrick Stewart.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 10:03 p.m. CST

    Jaka i can't take credit

    by MacReady452 k

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 10:13 p.m. CST

    not the politics just the song title

    by MacReady452

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Jaka, I did mean to explain where I got that but I hit

    by FamousEccles

    post too soon and as you say - no edit function so I didn't bother following it up. I know some people who work in cinemas who pass the time listening to folks opinions leaving the cinema - that is where that info comes from. Some movies only a few will discuss it, most are not discussed at all as people just seem to forget them. As to regular people leaving their views of a movie on a website they don't. Those people are not regular people, those are only a few of the larger audience. The larger regular audience consists the dopes who think BATMAN BEGINS is a sequel to BATMAN AND ROBIN (if they can even remember there was a BATMAN AND ROBIN) and the rest just go to the movies for two hours and forget about it after a few minutes because real life is back. Jaka, as large a community we movie lovers have, it is still a very small portion of the actual movie going population. Now, can you explain to me how I'm "trying too hard to hate here"? I haven't said anything against the Avatar movie. How can I when I haven't seen it yet (there are two cinemas in my area and only one is showing it, in 2D and might get the 3D on Wednesday. bloody nice movie house but shit management). I've said Worthington is a bad actor and that dialogue was James Cameron's strong point, but I have not said anything about the movie itself.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Thank God.

    by RockMSockM

    Sam Worthington is duller than dirt.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 10:23 p.m. CST

    Jaka, don't geek out in TREK style if you ever meet

    by FamousEccles

    Colm Meaney. he doesn't hate Trekkies but just don't get all weird on him. Patrick Stewart isn't all that though. he is very same-y in his roles. by the way, did you mean you are glad Meaney STILL had a career afterwards? He was doing great stuffbefore and during too. that Leprechaun thing looked better on paper so don't hold it against him. he's not proud of it. not ashamed of it either. just something he had to do.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 10:24 p.m. CST

    RockMSockM, dirt can be quite varied so dragging it

    by FamousEccles

    down to that guys level is very unfair.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 10:24 p.m. CST

    RockMSockM, dirt can be quite varied so dragging it

    by FamousEccles

    down to that guys level is very unfair.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 10:27 p.m. CST

    I hope the poor bastard doesn't read anything on

    by FamousEccles

    this website. I don't begrudge him his success no matter how undeserved, and I wish him no harm.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 10:33 p.m. CST

    FamousEccles dont feel bad for him

    by MacReady452

    he doesn't feel bad for you while he fucks 2 models on top of a huge pile of coke and money.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 10:51 p.m. CST

    MacReady452, I hope he has more sense than

    by FamousEccles

    to get involved in drugs. I hope those models aren't too skinny either. Has for riding two birds at once you don't need fame and fortune for that. you just need a combination of charm, curiosity and luck (right time, right place so to speak). I hope you know all that.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 10:52 p.m. CST

    can i address stars as DUDE?

    by frank cotton

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 10:53 p.m. CST

    MacReady452,just to had - I don't feel bad for him

    by FamousEccles

    I feel bad for me that there are two more movies I've got to sit through looking at this guy.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 10:55 p.m. CST

    frank cotton, do you mean "movie" stars or the

    by FamousEccles

    lights in the sky? if it's the latter, not in public because the men in white coats will come a knocking.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 10:59 p.m. CST


    by MacReady452

    its not so bad. i mean..does your wallpaper bother you? cause that is worthington.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 11:08 p.m. CST

    MacReady452, I was confused there for a

    by FamousEccles

    second, but nice one. Fortunately I don't have wallpaper. D'Mother never liked wallpaper and made me promise I'd never use it.

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 11:13 p.m. CST

    If only D'Mother could have the same effect here

    by MacReady452

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 11:45 p.m. CST

    spock paper scissors t shirt $9

    by MacReady452 24 hrs and never again

  • Jan. 3, 2010, 11:50 p.m. CST

    Yes, not enough people listen to the Mammy or

    by FamousEccles

    to what she is ACTUALLY REALLY saying. Mrs. Worthington may have seemed to be encouraging her son's foray into the acting world but was really telling him to stick with being a brickie. Like when my Ma told me I was a "good looking young man" she actually meant "Son, I love you but you ain't all that to look at, but there are worse out there with good women who don't deserve the assholes they put up with. So find some way to snare a nice girl and get a life so I can have some peace in this house because your father is enough to be dealing with."

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 12:55 a.m. CST

    I have no idea what's really being said...

    by Jaka this talkback at this point. There's some sort of circular, not paying attention to and/or lacking reading comprehension thing going on here that very much resembles posters-of-another-name.... but I digress...<br><br>I said exactly what I meant to say about Meaney's career. I reread it and it makes perfect sense to me. However, I don't do the Star Trek geeking out in that way. I own all the movies (other than the new one, which shall never touch my property), tv shows, most of the comic books and over four hundred of the novels. However, I do not one one single piece or replica merchandise, nor any costumes, the only Klingon word I know is kapla and I have never been to a convention (nor will I ever go to one). I just enjoy escaping to that "universe". It's the world I wish I'd been born into. Other than that I'm just a regular Joe on the Star Trek front. <br><br>I don't really understand what you're trying to get at with the Avatar diatribes eccles. See the movie, then come back and we'll talk. Because I imagine you, much like everybody else walking bleary eyed out of the theater, won't know how to express how you feel about what you've just seen 30 seconds after it's ended.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 1:30 a.m. CST

    avatar is succeeding on 'hype'?!?!

    by antonphd

    what a fucking ignorant thing to say. succeeding on hype is opening gigantic and then diving but still making so much on the way down that you still come out a blockbuster. avatar dropped what? 2 percent in weekend 2? rose during week 2 from week 1 then only dropped 9% in weekend 3. that's not hype. that's word of mouth and REPEAT business. most people who have seen it have or are planning to see it again and many more than once. that's the opposite of succeeding on hype. it was a simple but classic heartfelt story told in a new amazing way. and people are loving it. no two ways about it.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 1:51 a.m. CST

    Waltz won't be playing RED SKULL

    by CarmillaVonDoom

    He is playing the villain in "Green Hornet" for some reason. Doubt he will do both. Probably should have waited.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 1:53 a.m. CST

    avatar reaches 1 billion dollars worldwide

    by Player_Two_has_entered_the_game

    Antonphd you are right. reached 1 billion dollars worldwide now. Lots of repeat business. far out.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:30 a.m. CST

    Plenty of American actors..

    by lprothro

    Could pull this off--and for a comic adaptation, it's best to cast someone who visually fits the role. Just off the top of my head, Armand Hammer, Jason Lewis, Ryan McPartlin, or Paul Walker would all be just fine. The film won't get the much needed multiple viewings from geeks if a bland Aussie midget got the role.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 7:43 a.m. CST

    By the way I saw this guy on

    by lprothro

    .. a late night talk show, (Conan I think)where he expressed his disdain and unwillingness to work out for a role; so expect armour, rubber muscles, or some similar type of tom-foolery if he gets the part. Not to mention a buzz-cut, no screen presense and a faltering American accent.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:11 a.m. CST

    antonphd, hype IS word of mouth. and has been generally

    by FamousEccles

    agreed here box office rises and falls don't mean jack shit about whether a movie is good or not or that people enjoyed it. I never said people didn't enjoy it but it appears they forget it after leaving the cinema like they do most movies.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:25 a.m. CST

    Eh - I'd still rather Ryan for Flash, Sam for Capt

    by VAwitch

    Mostly cuz I'm not aware of Capt being funny/corny. Flash, unless there's some source material I don't recall (being on the younger side & missing the B&W movies) is "corny", and I think Ryan would do much better than Sam.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:26 a.m. CST

    Jaka, I never said your comment about Meaney didn't

    by FamousEccles

    make sense, I was just asking if you were aware the man already had a successful career. Do you mind telling me why you don't like the new TREK movie? Just curious. As to my "Avatar diatribes" - where are they? I have already said that I have yet to see (which I've already stated twice) and I have not said one bad thing against it. I merely told what friends (who have both good things and nothing to say about the movie) are telling me. Leaving the cinema is when most people talk about the movie - its when I do it, my friends do it. Sure plenty discuss it later. But most regular people never mention a movie again or even forget they've seen it. I worked in a video store when I was a kid. The amount of people who were back to return a movie complaining that they'd already seen it or wanting to get a replacement was unreal. That is just the way of things. I myself am more eager to see if the real James Cameron is back after that boating accident a few years ago.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Never saw any of Sam Worthington's australian movies

    by AsimovLives

    So i can't really judge his quality as an actor. His most well known works is him being very badly directed by McG in Terminator Pudrity and being mostly CGI in Avatar. Not enough to judge his quality as an actor, truly.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 12:55 p.m. CST

    FamousEccles, define " regular people" please

    by Player_Two_has_entered_the_game

    Avatar is the one movie I can think of in a long time that people are talking about more than any other after seeing it.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 12:56 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives, that's the one thing

    by Player_Two_has_entered_the_game

    you have ever said I agree with. Keep more of that up please, man.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Player_Two, why are you just asking me and not

    by FamousEccles

    the talkbacker who wrote "regular people" first? You say it has people talking, I say it hasn't. So obviously we listening to two very different groups of people.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 1:10 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives - do yourself a favour and don't

    by FamousEccles

    watch Worthington's back catalogue. :)

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 1:10 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives - do yourself a favour and don't

    by FamousEccles

    watch Worthington's back catalogue. :)

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 1:12 p.m. CST


    by CountryBoy

    DATELINE LOS ANGELES -- Amid an atmosphere of wild rumor and mutual recrimination, it was announced Monday that Sam Worthington remains "inexplicably uncast" as Flash Gordon. While a ninth HARRY POTTER film is being developed around the character of a "tough Aussie wizard" who mentors Harry through a new adventure, and Worthington has been tapped to replace Chris Pine in the STAR TREK franchise "just because," FLASH GORDON remains a bewildering blank on his resume. Screenwriters are reportedly working around the clock to craft a "macho Aussie sidekick" for the title character. This move comes after execs, confusing FLASH GORDON with BUCK ROGERS, tried to cast Worthington as "that robot from the TV show" -- a plan that was scrapped when the actor proved unable to repeat the phrase "Biddy biddy biddy" without an Australian accent. Sources close to the film have tried to downplay the controversy, with one claiming to know of "at least two" upcoming films which also lack Worthington in the cast: a low-budget Scottish drama, SHEPHERDS WITHOUT SHEEP, and the film version of the all-black musical PORGY AND BESS. These reports, however, remain unconfirmed. Meanwhile a traumatized Worthington has reached out for spiritual guidance to Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, who counseled Shia LeBeuf when the young star failed to be cast in IRON MAN, THE WHITE RIBBON or HANNAH MONTANA: BEST OF BOTH WORLDS.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Worthington is a boring peice of shit

    by Nabster

    why is he being forced upon us?

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Worthington=2010's Colin Farrell

    by Orbots Commander

    I'm sure Worthington is a nice dude off screen and all, but from what I've seen from him, I'm not impressed. <p> Whoever these PR and movie studio cats are that are trying to push him on us as the next big movie star, are failing. It's the same Colin Farrell-Jude Law-Shia Lebouf meme.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Unlike Sam..

    by lprothro

    I'd venture to say that Shia actually has some talent and screen presence. It's just the fact that he's so damn over-exposed! I love Harry but I'm in shock to think that a guy so enamored with the Marvel universe would want to push for such inappropriate Cap casting.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Unlike Sam..

    by lprothro

    I'd venture to say that Shia actually has some talent and screen presence. It's just the fact that he's so damn over-exposed! I love Harry but I'm in shock to think that a guy so enamored with the Marvel universe would want to push for such inappropriate Cap casting.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 1:58 p.m. CST

    An Austrailian as Capt. America..

    by Stalkeye, and fuck no. Too much outsourcing, Hollywood.

  • it might just be doable.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Love to see Sam work with RDJ/Norton

    by jaysin420

    I think he'd be humiliated but either way it would finally end this painfully one-sided debate.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 3:36 p.m. CST

    FamousEccles, because

    by Player_Two_has_entered_the_game

    I only read your comment. Come on, be fair. You want me to read every single mental post here? <p>re: listening to people - Yeah it seems we are. Although you are talking to two groups and I many.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 6:06 p.m. CST

    CountryBoy, nice one!!

    by FamousEccles

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Player_Two, while I am faltered that my post is the only one

    by FamousEccles

    you deemed worthy of reading, it left you without the full facts. Even though you seem to have read more of my posts after that you clearly didn't actually pay attention to what I was saying.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:05 p.m. CST


    by Player_Two_has_entered_the_game

    fine don't answer the question then.

  • Jan. 4, 2010, 8:34 p.m. CST

    Player_Two, I'll answer the question when you ask it of the pers

    by FamousEccles

    who first used "regular people". But eeing as you couldn't be bothered to read more than a few posts and seem to prefer to make incorrect guesses as to what talkbackers are actually saying I doubt you'll bother to look up who that was.

  • Jan. 5, 2010, 6:29 p.m. CST

    I didn't know Hollywood people jazz scat!

    by MrMysteryGuest

    "Doobie doobie dooooo,do-boo-do-ba-ba-bowwww, Sam ski-doww Worthington is Flash Gordon! Ba-ba-ba-ba-baaaaa, I lovin' it!"

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    by zacdilone

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  • Dec. 22, 2011, 3:11 p.m. CST

    But then again

    by zacdilone

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