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UPDATE!! News Corp. and Time Warner Cable reached a retransmission agreement late New Year's Day without Fox pulling its content from the cable system for even a minute.
ORIGINAL PROPHETIC POST:
News Corp. president Chase Carey says it’s likely Time Warner will drop the Fox Network, FX, Fox News and Fox Business from its channel lineup at the end of Dec. 31.
But contain your excitement. I suspect that’s not going to happen. How can Time Warner not cave to News Corp.’s fee demands?
My sense is Time Warner needs Fox a lot more than Fox needs Time Warner. Even if Time Warner elects to play hardball, fans of Fox programming can:
1) Watch Fox shows on Fox.com or Hulu,
2) buy an antenna (and maybe a $50 digital converter box if they own an older TV) and get Fox over the air, or
3) switch to satellite providers like DirecTV or Dish.
If Time Warner decides to keep Fox dark on its systems much beyond the Jan. 1 Sugar Bowl kickoff, it risks millions of subscribers switching to satellite for good!
Here’s when new episodes return to Fox, so you can make your contingency plans:
FOX & FX NEW-EPISODE DATES
Jan. 1 Sugar Bowl
Jan. 2 America’s Most Wanted
Jan. 3 American Dad
Jan. 3 The Cleveland Show
Jan. 3 Family Guy
Jan. 3 The Simpsons
Jan. 4 Fiesta Bowl
Jan. 5 Orange Bowl
Jan. 6 Nip/Tuck
Jan. 8 Dollhouse
Jan. 9 Cops
Jan. 11 Fringe
Jan. 11 House
Jan. 12 American Idol
Jan. 13 Our Little Genius
Jan. 14 Archer
Jan. 14 Bones
Jan. 17 Human Target
Jan. 17 24
Jan. 25 Damages
Jan. 29 Kitchen Nightmares
Feb. 11 Past Life
March 14 Sons of Tuscon
Apr. 13 Glee
BY TITLE
America’s Most Wanted Jan. 2
American Dad Jan. 3
American Idol Jan. 12
Archer Jan. 14
Bones Jan. 14
The Cleveland Show Jan. 3
Cops Jan. 9
Damages Jan. 25
Dollhouse Jan. 8
Family Guy Jan. 3
Fiesta Bowl Jan. 4
Fringe Jan. 11
Glee Apr. 13
House Jan. 11
Human Target Jan. 17
Kitchen Nightmares Jan. 29
Nip/Tuck Jan. 6
Orange Bowl Jan. 5
Our Little Genius Jan. 13
Past Life Feb. 11
The Simpsons Jan. 3
Sons of Tuscon March 14
Sugar Bowl Jan. 1
24 Jan. 17
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Not one of those shows - or even all of them together - would entice me to spend another $1 a month on my TWC bill.
Bye bye, Fox, you won't be missed.
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Did I get first? I mean, sure it's a miserably irrelevant thread... but did I get here first?
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The whole FOX group, from the film studio to the TV networks to the news operation is total trash. I'd rather have four channels of public access TV than FX.
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Either way, doesn't bother me, haven't had cable or satellite in years. Via VOD! Viva la internet! Or something like that, Nielsen doesn't track me either way so i don't count
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Just a little confused.
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Totally different companies obviously. Glad I don't have TW, because I do love me some Fringe, and enjoy me some Jack Bauer Power Hour.
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and I know how to operate a bittorrent client, so all this corporate bickering is irrelevant to me
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Jeezus, Jan is gonna be a long month.
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Has the MPAA stopped garnishing the wages of people (and/or their parents) caught using torrents?
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Fox can go eat a giant dick. Seriously. I'm tired of them canceling decent shows. I'm tired of their "news". The network is a sham in my opinion. May they rot in eternal hell.
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So this mess won't affect me at all.
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Fox is on the verge of losing millions of customers which means millions in advertising. I hate Time Warner but I am forced to have them. My apartment does not face the right direction for satellite and I can't put it on the roof. This means time warner only. They both have a lot to lose. The main four stations should be free. As much as I hate time warner they are right not giving Into fox demands. If they give in it would set a precedent for all the other companies. Keep Strong Time Warner!
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Fox has cancelled the majority of reasons for me to watch anything they produce.
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If Fox does go dark on Time Warner it's because Fox refused to give Time Warner the signal not Time Warner deciding to shut off the channels. I have Comcast and I'd pay extra for Fox News to go dark permanently. Also Time Warner is the cable provider for the 2 largest tv markets in the US, New York and LA Fox really can't afford to lose those viewers for very long. Either way it's really the customer who loses when 2 big companies squabble over money.
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Good riddance. I'm literally down to Dollhouse and House. Hulu here we come!
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They have already proved that they are complete morons when it comes to intelligent story-telling...catering to the mouth-breathing masses earns them a big fat fail. Fuck 'em.
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...or buying extra equipment. The latter is damn near impossible to justify in this recession, whereas the former isn't an option to many, especially in New York, including myself and my girlfriend, who live in a Manhattan apartment where Time Warner is the only option -- that, or no cable at all.
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All I hear is nothing but complaints, and their HD service sucks ass.
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Hulu and renting is where its at. You do whatever you need to to do all day and not owrry about catching a damn show so you can watch it whenever you want later. I'm not a Nielsen person, so it doesn't matter if I watch shows anyways, so I just watch like one show of them and then buy the dvds if I like it. AND, FOX can go to hell for ever canceling "Arrested Development". Hulu is great, british shows like Spaced, shows aren't uploaded too late after they air IMO, you can just pretend they aren't on until that day if it bothers you. AND the ads are short and dare I say seemingly better. As in more to the point and less annoying.
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I have Time Warner for internet, and beside a few billing issues that were resolved they really haven't ever screwed me over or anything more then some department stores or anything have. I really just hate FOX I guess, terrible shows except once in awhile I will watch Family Guy or The Simpsons. TV hopefully isn't that important in your life that missing FOX would dampen your day.
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I can't stand Fox and its operating philosophy: lies, bullshit, botox, and blowhards. No substance at all.
Thus I'm not ever in their corner.
The only channel I'd miss if it was blacked out would be FX. "The Shield," "Damages," and other quality TV-MA shows are valuable contributions to the viewing world. I'd like to see this channel continue its good work.
But Fox news and every other Fox channel? Nah. As expressed above, to me it's all LBBB.
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REALLY looking forward to this show starting.
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They pulled this crap with FOX 11 out of Green Bay alst fall. Green Bay and Appleton were without FOX for aobut a month I believe - and they did this in the middle of the NFL season, so they ahve to hav the minerals to mess with Green Bay in the middle of Packers season.
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They also pulled this same garbage on the city of Buffalo during the NFL season to. I beleive a few others as well.
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2010 is looking pretty damn sweet right now.
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Bring back T:TSCC assholes!
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Lets try to squeeze another fucking buck out of every working class schmoe that already gets raped by the cable companies on a monthly basis.
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Dec 30, 2009 11:56:49 PM CST
And while TW is thanking the people for fighting the rate increa
by mindtrip
...they're going to be raising rates soon if not already in some locations. I wonder who will lead that fight?
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Yeah, No. This is all well and good up unto a certain point, but their NFL contract renders it an non issue. I cannot imagine Fox in any capacity can afford to hemorrhage the revenues their Sundays generate. Likewise i'm doubtful of the NFL tolerating more than a day of their pre-playoff games being blacked out nationally due to Murdocks' early onset dementia.
This at best will be a short fight, and if it goes poorly for fox, It'll be interesting to see them try and recover.
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he's automatically one of our top 10 presidents of all time. looking over that list, i realize that i watch none of those shows. four immediate benefits: 1) i have an excuse not to watch glee with my girlfriend; she'll have to hulu 2) the nfl will hopefully move to a new network and we'll be free of that idiotic dancing robot 3) flipping channels will no longer entail catching a glimpse of glenn beck's fuck-ugly face 4) arrested development cancellation karma schaudenfreude (or however you spell it)
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Suddenly we're cool with censorship? When V For Vendetta blasted it from a "conservative" point of view, censorship was right wing evil, and now MrGreenThePlant is thanking Obama for the exact same thing? (Obviously he's in no way connected to all this, just a hypothetical). You just proved the hypocrisy of liberals everywhere.
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..is obviously ATT U-verse. Fuck Time Warner/Comcast/and all other lackluster service/overpriced cable offerings. Long live Fox News and it's reign as #1.
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Oh yes, there will be blood. Or I could just torrent it. Or, since I'm Canadian, it's going to show on Global anyway. So I dunno who is gonna get screwed but it ain't gonna be me.
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Dec 31, 2009 3:13:12 AM CST
Herc, you don't need a program to find bad torrents from good on
by tall_boy66
You go to www.eztv.it and that's where they post all the rips from. Or you go to isohunt.com and you look for the ones with the positive comments and rep points. This is not that difficult.
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Dec 31, 2009 3:15:05 AM CST
Or if you're too scared the big bad MPAA will get your IP addy
by tall_boy66
Then you go to www.projectw.org and you find the rapidshare links for your favourite shows and download them that way. Can't stop the signal, Mal.
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It's hard to say whether Fox or Time Warner are bigger douches. With cable's 40% profit margin, I might actually favor Fox over Time Warner on this one.
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I think it was with USA or something, but in the end, I remember all they did was cave in anyway after pissing off 90 percent of their subscribers. It's a lose/lose situation for Time Warner, but seeing how I hate that company almost as much as AT&T, I could care less.
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I generally like the guvmint to keep their hands off things, but the FCC needs to crack down on these sorts of shenanigans.It's only going to get worse when more more vertical consolidation like Comcast/NBC occurs, and programming becomes the main weapon used to gain leverage in negotiations.
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downloading is legal there...
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That is honestly one of the all-time stupidest things I have ever read on this board or anywhere else. Around this place, that's saying a lot. Not only do you give Democrats, liberals, and Obama voters/supporters a bad name by puking out such mind-garbage, you give an even bigger one to stupid people everywhere.You said you had a girlfriend, mrgreentheplant? Please, for the good of mankind - don't reproduce.
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If you think this doesn't matter. Fact is, Beck has the highest rating @ 5-6 PM time slot. O'Reilly normally triples CNN and MSNBC combined. American Idol and 24 are good for at least 4s in the ratings dept. (American Idol closer to 5-6 or 7). The Bowl Games are good for at worst 4s. Fox might be a shady company to some, however their appeal can be proven by numbers. Lastly, it's my understanding that TW's cable service is abysmal anyway, so that will cause customers to leave if this isn't taken care of... like today.
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Except for the one Super Bowl, I haven't watched Fox since the series finale of Arrested Development.
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I'm sure even his daughters watch Idol. Canceling Fox News on the other hand would be brilliant.
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use Time Warner. These battles are petty and use customers as pawns. If the Sat companies do this, get a second high speed provider and grab the shows you like via torrent. Let them all burn in hell if they think they can abuse customers like this. But.. but what about all those content producers and actors/technicians/workers? Hey, guess what buddy... something tells me that as long as a need is there, someone, somewhere will find a way to fill it. Stop protecting the status quo and old business models by towing the line and repeating the talking points of people who you owe NOTHING and who would not piss on you to save you from burning to death. You don't protect any jobs by respecting an industry that holds you in contempt and respects you about as much as a blow up doll.
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...after all, his company produced Avatar. The Conservative Movement is officially dead, and thank God for it!!!
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Only cares about one thing: money. The Simpsons is a liberal as you can get and it has been a Fox show for 20 years.
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It was a joke about his girlfriend's annoying TV habits and karma for cancelling shows he likes. Calm down. Or do you really believe he thinks this would make Obama (or anyone else, for that matter) "one of our top presidents of all time"?
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everyone keeps acting like TW would be the only loser here ... i would imagine fox advertising would shrivel to nothing if essentially everyone with tw cable didnt have fox ... i mean tw is BIG in many areas like LA where millions of people are subscribers.
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jesus christ people.
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But it's about time for 'Boys to begin their annual swoon anyway.
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Spoonie, Lefty. Now Jack is leaving too.
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Being a DirecTV customer, I'm unconcerned. I am a huge football fan, though, so if I were TW customer, I'd be pretty pissed off. The rest of the stuff on Fox is easy enough to catch on the net. But would Fox jeopardize their pretty lucrative NFL contract by canceling service to millions of homes during the playoffs? I doubt it. They'll work something out.
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I would gladly jump to sat tv but OnDemand is so great to have. I have Comcast, but I definitely feel for TW customers. But who knows if they will really pull the plug at midnight.
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who i ask!!!
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Dec 31, 2009 11:45:15 PM CST
It's 2010 - Relaying message - http://tinyurl.com/yzmkmta
by orionsangels
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And Time Warner is like, "screw you. All that's going to happen is our customers get it up the ass."
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Unless something goes really wrong in the next few hours (or days). The extension is probably a positive indicator. Or Fox was concerned about their image... I know, that was hard to type with a straight face!
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so people won't miss their college bowls... sheesh. Don't we have better things to do?
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We are posting on New Year's Eve... I'm not sure we have too much else to do..
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I notice Fringe comes back same day as House and Archer takes its spot following Bones - is this a permanent move for Fringe? If so, where does 24 land? I'd love to see a night of House, Fringe, and 24 in a row, but I doubt they'd put their heaviest (non-"reality") hitters all on one night. What's the deal?
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as a temporary measure because the FCC said that the Fox/TWC bickering should not be allowed to affect customers on New Year's Day. It had nothing to do with either side wavering. Fox basically wants to charge TWC $1 per subscriber. Honestly, though, TWC has the worst digital service of any of the big name providers. If they lose Fox and its sister channels and programming, that might be the nail in the TWC coffin.
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Listen, I hate fox as much as the next guy, namely because of firefly, t:scc, american idol, all their garbage reality tv, cancelling dollhouse (which i have yet to see a full episode of, but hear that its gotten awesome but the damage is done) but (while i can download) i'd be PISSED about this, not so much because of FOX network (because you can get it over the air) but because of F fuckin X which has brilliant shows like rescue me and always sunny in philadelphia. If you're thrilled about this because you think that FOX will somehow really hurt because of this, it won't. There's nothing to celebrate about this.
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I'm sure he has much better things to be doing than personally giving the go-ahead on every piece of entertainment his mega corparation puts out.Also, regardless of his political philosophies, even a delusional satan-worshipping anarchist who believes he is jesus would wait about a millionth of a second until he greenlights a Cameron movie that is a no-risk mega-mega-cash cow. Money is the bottom line.And how insulting for you to declare the conservative political party dead because of a politically slanted media network... it implies that every person who is part of the conservative party and its values (yes, they do have values) only backs that party because they are mindless lemmings who are controlled by the media, too uneducated or unintelligent to make their own decisions and values...
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i want to apologize to you, media messiah--i didn't mean to offend you, because you are certaintly entitled to your own beliefs: if you want to be a delusional satan-worshipping anarchist who believes he is jesus, i won't try and stop you...
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Not sure if anyone on here mentioned this, but as of 12:01AM, Cablevision lost Food Network and HGTV for the exact same problem that Fox and TWC are having....TWC might also lose these channels as well. My wife is a closet chef and Foof Network junkie and is absolutely batshit that there was no warning about this and how powerless she is to do anything!
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People are stupid. It's not a god given right to have television. People speak of FOX and Time Warner as these evil entities. If that is the case you make them that. If television was to go away for ever who cares. Television is not that important.
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thats a good joke, because clearly youve never had comcast or about any other provider ... they all suck and offer about half the choices TW does... i just changed providers from tx to comcast and its like a bad joke how much worse comcast is.
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i knew they would cave...it wouldnt have affected me..i can go online and watch anything i like in multiple places....i know everyone goes to HULU cuz theyre told to....for those that dont know, there are dozens and dozens of sites to watch free tv, and u dont have to deal with ads....satellite is for losers, wind blows too hard u lose signal, rains or snows too hard, no signal...etc....cable is on all the time through all weather..more channels, the list goes on....and even if TWC lost fox they wouldnt care...TWC had to pay them to retransmit fox broadcasts, not the other way around...i think some of u have it backwards
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Don't know what you're talking about, but I and most of my fellow apartment dwelling friends might be a little miffed if we had lost Fox, but wouldn't have really cared that much and WOULD NOT be switching to a dish just for them. Fox's constant ads during their Sunday night toons was more annoying than anything. Cartoon Network shows Family Guy and American Dad anyway, can always watch Simpsons online. Same with any FX show. House is good, but no big loss. About it. 2 big businesses squabbling in front of us like we cared anything about either of them, as if they weren't both just screwing us. We don't care about you, you selfish bastards. Guessing the backlash was against both, so they caved to each other.
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I had TWC until they left the area and Comcast took over - I left Comcast for Direct TV because kept having problems with their customer service, but they were miles better than what we had to deal with when TWC was controlling the area. As far as digital picture, Comcast looked better than TWC, and Directv blows them both out of the water. Not a joke, man, TWC blows!
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just say FOX and watch all the Obama worshipers jump to do whatever they are told to do. Who said FOX??!?! What should I do, drop my cable? Should I cut my balls off? Does Barry want me to cut my balls off? Cause I'll do it if it will hurt FOX!! Meanwhile TWC is laughing their asses off because people are too stupid to push for alacarte subscriptions so you don't have to give FOX any money if you don't want to.
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...I wish they'd just cancel all that Seth McFarlane crap instead.
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Just because they lost Fox. We DO have the internet and a wonderful program called utorrent.
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Jan 05, 2010 3:39:44 PM CST
Jack Bauer oughta shoot up a cable company office on a 24 episod
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