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Details Emerge On Bryan Singer’s Next X-MEN Movie!!
I am – Hercules!!
From Friday morning’s Variety story on “X-Men: First Class”:
"This is the formative years of Xavier and Magneto, and the formation of the school and where there relationship took a wrong turn," [Bryan] Singer said. "There is a romantic element, and some of the mutants from 'X-Men' will figure into the plot, though I don't want to say which ones. There will be a lot of new mutants and a great villain."
This clears up finally the question of whether “First Class” would serve as a prequel -- or a sequel to the Patrick Stewart/Ian McKellen movies focusing on a new generation of superpowered mutants.
Jamie Moss, screenwriter of the 2008 Keanu Reeves cop thriller “Street Kings,” apparently wrote the script for the project based on a treatment by Singer (“X-Men,” “X2”), who will direct. It’s unclear whether any of the material written by “OC” mastermind and “Chuck” co-creator Josh Schwartz, who had penned an earlier draft for “First Class,” will be retained.
I confess I find a project centered on the early Xavier/Magneto relationship far more promising than “X-Men Origins: Magneto,” which I’m guessing will go away now.
Find Variety’s story on the matter here.
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"You used my toothbrush, you ASS."
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Singer!
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FLOCKA!!
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Some legitimately cool news today. Way to go internet.
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Dec 17, 2009 10:32:51 PM CST
PHANTOM MENACE REVIEW!!!WATCH THIS RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!
by tehcreepythinman
This is Cool News, not the fourth (fifth with Wolverine) film in a series that peaked at number 2 back in 2003. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =FxKtZmQgxrI
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this could be very cool, but like all things that could be very cool, it could suck donkey balls.
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Dec 17, 2009 10:34:17 PM CST
YOUNG XAVIER/MAGNETO = YOUNG AUSTIN POWERS/DR. EVIL FROM GOLDMEM
by tehcreepythinman
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I imagine you could cut the Magneto/Xavier sexual tension with a knife.
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What the hell happened to journalism in this world? And if you don't recognize the error contained within one of those three words in the context of that sentence should also recognize in that moment that you didn't make the most of the education provided to you.
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Dec 17, 2009 10:42:01 PM CST
Yay, another $250 million film that looks like a $50 million fil
by spyguy
After seeing DISTRICT 9, I really have to wonder what Bryan Singer does with his ridiculous production budgets. Does he just blow all the extra cash on strawberry Pop-Tarts and Red Bull?
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Is it correct to call someone who oversaw a show like the OC a "mastermind?" Just sayin.
They don't have the balls for a reboot, but it sure would be fan-fucking-tastic if they started over with the original X-Men, gave them a couple of movies, and then do Giant Size X-Men #1, maybe minus the living island bullshit.
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'Cause I'm old school like that.
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This is like Dumb and Dumberer but without a mildly amusing title at least.
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Iceman and Angel were just kids around this time are they going to redo ALL the characters for this? If they do its just gonna fuck up the continuiety entirely.
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He probably blows (pardon the pun) his budgets on painkillers & coke. Damn, I wish I was chillin' with THAT crew!!!
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X-MEN FIRST CLASS (subtitle: THE BROMANCE OF MAGNETO AND XAVIER)
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Certainly Variety has better Editors than represented by that "quote."
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As long as its nothing like the wolverine movie...the xmen franchise may i have chance. in an unrelated note i saw this video on youtube and i burst out laughing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxU2GmgStQ0
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Dec 17, 2009 10:54:35 PM CST
Kris Kristofferson told me that Michael Cimino's 1979...
by darthmrbelvedere
Wyoming "Heaven's Gate" set, was more about coke and imported hookers, than actually making a picture.
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... which says the studio is still developing a Magneto Origins flick. Though I agree, after this new movie, what's the point?
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Dec 17, 2009 10:56:16 PM CST
In one scene, Wolverine drives by the School on a motorcycle...
by dvader
He stops to relight his cigar before taking off again. Just to throw the fans a bone.
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The series absolutely took a misstep with X3, and Wolverine was lacking. As flawed as Superman Returns was, it trumps the recent x entries.
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Just like the 'Wolverine' movie was a waste. I've got no problem with Singer coming back to the franchise he started...but why try to tell another version of the beginning of the X-Men instead of taking any one of the MANY great stories from the comics and adapting that (only getting it right instead of how they screwed up the 'Phoenix Saga')? The main idea behind these "First Class" comic books is to fill in on the back story and origin for the new-to-comics readers who were probably first introduced to the X-Men from the movies anyways, so why pander specifically to them when you can simply fix what's been established in the film-world of these characters by advancing them instead of doing more "origins" or "prequel(esque)" shit like this? It's the X-Men, it's guaranteed money at the box office at this point, regardless of new or old readers/fans...so give the fans what they want, which is something they've not seen already!
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How'd He Get Chair'd!!!
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You know they'll find someway to work him into the movie, even as just a cameo, because they think an X-Men movie can't succeed without that character.
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...so now it's time for Hollywood to bombard us with prequels and reboots. And all of them will suck.
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I certainly hope so. As I said before, despite the fact that he's linked to a new BSG, I just don't believe he'll do it. If a new X-Men distances him further from it, all the better.
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BSG, X-Men: the remake of the franchise he helped establish. He is slowly fading into irrelevancy, and nobody's caring....
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LIke tires on a big rig driving down Highway 5-- RETREAD. Here's a word: Do something NEW!!!
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Worth a punt.
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Prequels are a bore because you know where the stories going, not to mention know the characters fates. Can only work Star Trek style if something changes the timeline so that nothing is certain, maybe Bishop can come back from the future, that would be bleedin' awesome.
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Thank you! That sh** is hilarious.
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that phantom menace review is hilarious. im on part 4. thanks for showing this.
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It's bound to be used to set up a X4, establish Emma Frost, possibly introduce Sinister and Havok. Do ya really think they'd do a Cyclops-centric flick and not figure out a way to resurrect him in the next proper installment? And yeah, if that's what they're doing, Jared wouldn't be a good choice.
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As if Wolverine didn't blow enough, "let's make another crappy,unnecessary prequel instead of branching out the characters that we already know". Just stop. And the Singer Superman should never have happened, along with Supes III and IV.
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To save the future, you gotta correct the past, and to correct the past (X3), you gotta go even farther back in the past to fix the present to ensure the future. It's like Days of Future's Past...only not.
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Dec 18, 2009 12:17:16 AM CST
Actually, instead of using this as a way to resurrect Scott...
by shermdawg
...this could very well set up Age of Apocalypse in X4, thus semi-rebooting the entire series ala Trek.
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As we know it.
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Time to bring in some new creative talent for the X-Men franchise. Another origin story? Fuck off. Give us something cool. Like an epic battle with giant Sentinels.
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Tom: "So Bry Guy, I fucked up, I know, what will it take to get you back?" Bryan: "Giant purple robuts."
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I just watched all seven parts. Thank you! just fantastic. Oh...and this is cool too i guess.
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A friend turned me onto that review a few days ago. I've watched all of his Star Trek reviews now too, all of them are hilarious and pretty much dead on in their criticism.
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Bite your fucking tongue about The O.C., sir. Question: Did you ever, even once, actually watch it? If the answer's no, shut up forever, because you lose at television. Josh Schwartz gave the gift of Adam Brody to the world -- never forget that. That kid is geek wrapped in hilarious, and If he plays his career cards right, he'll be the "next Tom Hanks" that Colin Hanks was supposed to be.
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But he wishes he knew how.
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Just stick with the existing ones. Bryan Singer, you are good and a great director at times, but you are not a comic book story genius. We all saw Superman Returns and it sucked.Please stick with existing mutants and quit having 5 mutants who teleport and who look nothing like Nightcrawler and 8 skinny girls who phase through walls and yet are not Kitty Pride. You get my point here, right?
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Did anyone notice how Wolverine fucked up the seriously already shitty continuity of the X-Men films when Scott doesn't recognize Wolverine and the guy who saved everyone?Fox loves to fuck up their movie properties.
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not to stick up for the horrible movie that is wolverine, but scott was wearing a blindfold the whole time so he wouldnt use his optic blast.
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Finally saw this last month.
I had heard it was bad, but I didn't realize that it was EPICALLY, HEROICALLY bad. It is the worst movie I've seen in around three years. An utterly incompetent mess. I was mesmerized by its badness. -
Let him play with his little X-Men as long as he doesn't touch Superman again.
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And their going separate ways will be a lovers quarrel.
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honestly, i really don't give a shit about this project. I've never liked the 'first class' concept, especially for film. Just a shitty excuse to attract teenagers to the multiplex. If we have to keep having X-Men films made, and if Singer is coming back, then just give us an X-Men 4. not a shitty first class film. or another shitty origins film ala 'Wolverine'
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Want to see X-Men 4, move it up a notch lets erase X-Men 3 from our memory and get stuck into some adventure like the better bits of number 2 and away from the school.
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Dec 18, 2009 2:51:39 AM CST
MY VERSION OF THE DARK KNIGHT'S INTERROGATION SCENE........
by tehcreepythinman
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Where does Singer's budget go? Ask the crew at Fox Studios in Sydney.
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Just wish they'd get on with an X-Men 4 for shits sake.
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Is it just me, or is the red-haired gal on the top cover a little thin? You think you're setting good examples for young girls, Marvel? Spooky!
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Singer to say that he's actually Remaking X-3 Only this time Done by a real Director.
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effective than wrapping it with cloth. Just saying.
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Singer that is.
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Just saying.
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for Origins: Magneto to go to the wayside. None AT ALL!!!
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That is seriously fucked up. Are you a high school gym teacher?
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Miley Cirus, Kristen Stewart, the Jonas Brothers. A new X-MEN film for the new generation of STUPID FUCKING IDIOTS.
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FUCK PREQUELS! Sick of this shit, sick of the fucking word. Fucking George Lucas for creating a whole genre out of bad ideas and half-bakery built under the foundation of something else. You know what's under the foundation of your house? A bunch of worthless dirt and old dead animals and dogshit and sewage. That's what prequels are, the stuff under the foundation. "Build down!" as Carlin would say, and you are only really destroying, not creating. Smegma-drooling prequel bullshit only serves to pretentiously comment on greater works while sloppily deconstructing them into a box.
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his teenage student. He thinks he's in love with her. He wants to... is that little wrinkle Screeenplay worthy? It's in the comics, bigger n fucking day! By Stan Lee no less LOVELY!
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We got their relationship in the first 2 movies. Move on. They have absolutely no idea what they're doing with this property...
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It seems like Captain Obvious news, huh? Like what else is something called Xmen: First Class going to be about. Not a new class, cause it's first. And there's going to be some new faces, because it's an Xmen movie. And there will be a new villain, becuase, um, it's a new movie. Seriously, read that post again and if you can find anything surprising (after we already fond out on a previous post that this movie existed) I feel sorry for you. It's called "first class" not "second" or "third". Though I can see the review headlines now (and you heard it here first) "Xmen:First Class is Second Class stuff" or "Singer revealed to be second class citizen" or something like that. Too drunk to think...fuck Singer. Ratner forever!
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You know, the one no one really likes? Also, how about not doing this, letting the property rest a little while so that the bad taste of "X-Men 3" and "Wolverine" goes away and just taking a fresh stab at it. Maybe after the rights at Fox expire and Disney gets the property. I don't know, it's just a thought. Also, Bryan Singer is good at dramatic thrillers. He should stick to those.
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Bryan: yadda yadda yadda magneto and xaver are in it yadda yadda yadda cool villain yadda yadda (snorts more coke) yadda ..oh yeah.. uh yadda yadda (wipes blood from nose) sniff , yadda yadda yadda! Details indeed!!!
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A homo-erotic love story between a fresh-faced Patrick Stewart wannabe and a slightly older Ian McKellan that leaves young Patrick tragically crippled and his lover on the run from justice and inexplicably choosing a helmet-and-cape lifestyle.
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GIVE US SENTINELS WITH A BAD ASS PLOT! NOT X-MEN 90210!
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Being that Xavier and Magneto were once a couple in Singers X-men films, he means.
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Heres hoping they use the orignal team of angel,beast,iceman,jean,and scott summers vs magneto,toad,quicksilver,and the scarlett witch.
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I want to see George Lucas'face watching this. I want GL to watch every single minute of it, and drop it: "I FUCKED UP"
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I've been an X-Men comic fan for 30 years and he only barely based his movies on the books. The third film (which he didn't direct) was so bad, it should have been called "Sort of X-Men 3." If he is going to go back to the first class, he should actually try to get it right and do the first class: Beast, Iceman, Marvel Girl, Cyclops and Angel. I know he's going to try to get Wolverine in there (it seems that Marvel seems to think that every single mutant film has to have him in it) but he was not part of the team till much, much later. Same goes for Storm. I really wish Singer wouldn't spit in the faces of the comic fans and actually stick to the comic for once. Do the original team.
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Cyclops is the the field leader of the X-Men. Singer needs to give him the credit that it due....
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Cyclops is the the field leader of the X-Men. Singer needs to give him the credit that it due....
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lol are you fucking kidding me?
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Being a persecuted Jew for simply being different than those in power. More than what blacks, Mexicans, Chinese, and Japanese suffered in the U.S., the European Jews' very existence was challenged and were almost wiped out. I can certainly understand where Maggie is coming from. Also, this project sounds a lot better than X-Men Origins: Magneto, and with Singer back in the helm it's win-win. Now if only they make the right casting choices for the young versions of Xavier and Magneto...
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Not interested in watching a bunch of tween melodrama.
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By the end of X2 I was convinced that THIS was the film series I was most excited about in the 2000s. But X3's shitness somehow tainted the other two. It would be so, so wonderful if Singer did this so one could somehow go straight from X1, X2 to this. Damn, I didn't even bother seeing Wolverine, it sounded so terrible.
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I am never interested in a prequel, like EVER.
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He deserves some damn respect! Best X-Men character by far.
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I watched G.I. Joe last night, and that red head would be a good Jean I think for this.
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I thought I really loved X-1 & 2 when I first saw them, but now I think it was only because I was so desperate for an X-Men film. In hindsight, I don't feel like I've really seen Wolverine, Cyclops, etc on film (crappy costumes, character arcs). Please REBOOT (I hate that word) with someone who will respect the comics (and this comes from a casual, not die-hard, comic fan).
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W. S. Anderson is currently working on a re-imagining of 2008 comedy classic You Don't Mess with the Zohan.
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of Singer squeezing our favorite mutants into black leather bondage gear and wrapping them around some inane plot that no one gives a damn about. Film. The. Books. How fucking difficult is that? The stories have not been well-written for decades, they're already story boarded as well. *sigh*
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That one-eyed panty waist has been, is, and will always be good for only one thing...tripping over himself to win, keep, or kiss Jean's arse. Snikety snikt that boy scout and call it a day.
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Dec 18, 2009 10:22:23 AM CST
EDIT: Should be "The stories have not ONLY been well written....
by peter franks
that is all. :)
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I thought the blaq suits were coo' when I was younger, now they look like a covert ops team. X-Men are supposed to help build better relations between mutants and humans right? The black leather made them seem they had alterior motives besides peace imo.
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Wouldn't you trip all over yourself to get on Jean? Hottest girl in comics.
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X-Men Origins: X-Men ????
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Make mine The Black Cat...mmmmmmmmm. Here kitty, kitty.
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http://www.cinematical.com/2009/12/17/ the-fbi-arrests-the-man-who-leaked-wolverine/interesting story, but im guessing we'll hear more soon.
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They should lock up all those responsible for making that travesty. All they had to do was film ORIGIN. Instead, we get that claptrap of a Logan film.
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The Most Overrated Character in Comics.
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if they stick to actual X-Men canon, how many times has Fox shown their interested in canon? Or even in making a good film? They'll try to shoehorn him in there if it's at all possible. And while Logan may be the most overexposed character in comics, he certainly isn't the most overrated. Superman says "Hi".
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Thank you. I couldn't agree more. I'm not sure why they insist on including Wolverine in anything X-Men. He was the LEAST interesting character from the comics, cartoon, or movies.
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...they don't use that creepy tranny CGI model of Patrick Stewart from Wolverine for the movie. I still have nightmares about... it.
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*LOL* Okay, I stand corrected.
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I would've somehow replaced Jim Shooter and allowed Chris Claremont to kill Wolverine off early in his X-Men career.
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If I turn back time, I would've somehow convinced Marvel not to sell the property of the X-Men to Fox for them to ruin.
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Haha.
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First thought: how can this be 70 minutes long?
After watching: this should be much longer.
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Dec 18, 2009 12:55:46 PM CST
That Jean Grey above looks like Taylor Swift in a Lohan wig.
by karl childers
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Dec 18, 2009 2:42:44 PM CST
How will it work? Iceman & Angel movie continuity F-kup.
by damien chowder
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Dec 18, 2009 3:48:53 PM CST
Xavier whispers into Magneto's ear in the drom...
by jeangrey_x23_lesbosex
...either you give me that sweet jewish loving, Magnus or I will mind rape you!
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couldn't get past that
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Dec 18, 2009 4:01:04 PM CST
I would prefer to get another director's take on X-Men...
by revenge_of_fett
But I will take this.
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there's no way Xavier and Magneto would be twentysomethings, unless it's a flashback to their wartime relationship - that's probably in the Magneto movie, which could still be awesome and nothing to do with the X-Men (hell, read Magneto: Testament - it's an amazing Magneto story as a teenager before he even had powers in Auschwitz). By the time there's a first class, Xavier had to be mid 30's at least. And if they're going by the history of Magneto being a tween in WWII, then Magneto would be much older. They could explain something about magnetic powers to slow his aging, but I don't think telepathy can do that for Xavier, unless he's making people think he's younger.
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But Singer does "get" X-Men, like Sam Raimi gets Spider-Man. I prefer not to speculate on why they have such insight on outsider status. It seems like some are a little hung up on Singer's orientation. I'm not Mr. PC, but that aspect of the director's life doesn't concern me. It'll be intesting to see what actors they select for these roles and how they make it all work. The ominously-named "Last Stand" went sideways. Some have said it wasn't Ratner's fault. My opinion is he's never directed an exceptional film. Those who said back then that the studio's pushing the story into production would muff the whole thing up can pat yourselves on the back. Let's hope they learn from their mistakes and the success of better films and give us coherent versions of these pop culture icons.
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Jar Jar Abrams's SHIT TREK is an idea sucess???AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAnd for your information, the return to the begining idea started with BATMAN BEGINS. Remember?
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Since when?
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Thanks for a nice, sane post among the usual bitter and homophobic ruffians here. I agree with you about everything except Spider-Man. (Allow me this tangent for a moment.) I think, at one time, Raimi GOT Spidey, but I think that time is past. All the rumors from the last TWO films' troubled productions (and indeed, SM2 was troubled for another reason -- they nearly replaced Maguire) only signal to me that it is time for a switch-up. Raimi's choice (if indeed his) to make Sandman the "real killer" really made me feel a bit betrayed as an audience member; along with his APPARENT willingness to cow-tow to the studio's demands and stuff Venom in the picture -- at the expense of giving Sandman a coherent and complete storyline (60-70% of his scenes were cut from the release). Sure, they should have perhaps gone with their original plan of developing two films, and waiting to bring in Venom fully until the second, but it's water under the bridge, and despite the stories of studio/director friction on Spidey 3, and now 4, I'm feeling more that Raimi has just about said all he has to say on this character, and I would much rather that the studio went off in a new direction at this point (and I think that very well may still happen). Regarding Singer returning to X-Men, surprising and actually refreshing -- I straight-out admit that I'm one of the biggest critics of his "Superman Redud" on the planet -- however, I sincerely LOVED his X-films. I'm not X-Men COMICS expert, but I do know a thing or two about FILM, and anyone who really doesn't see the decency of establishing characterization (despite, again, studio friction) in X-Men and the ascendancy of something truly special in X2, I really don't have anything to say to. Despite my assertion and belief that Singer truly lost it with Superman (I still haven't seen Valkyrie, not really interested) I am looking forward to seeing what Singer does with this, as he is in "his element" in filmmaking terms -- and while indeed his personal feelings regarding his private life may indeed seep into his work (what true artist's don't?), these have nothing to do with whatever problems I have sometimes had with Singer as a filmmaker -- and they shouldn't for all of the folks here, either.
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I have no idea why anyone would be excited to see Bryan Singer back on the X-Men - especially after his disastrous turn on Superman Returns (possibly the worst big budget comic book movie ever made). X-Men 3 is a highly under-rated film, but it had the best underlying storyline of the three films. Unfortunately, instead of focusing on the "cure" aspect to the mutant condition storyline (an obvious social, moral and religious allegory), the film-makers felt the need to try and shoe-horn the Dark Phoenix storyline into the movie as well. There was simply too much material for one film. Still, there are great and tragic moments such as a young Warren Worthington trying to cut off his own wings to fit in, or the Beast/Hank McCoy's reaction to his hand suddenly becoming human. In contrast, I think Rogue's decision to rid herself of her perceived "affliction" really opens up a can of worms for duscussion. The movie may have failed on many other levels, but it reached for greater heights than either of the first two films.
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The man is a fucking phenominon!
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What's with the long bodies?
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My Raimi remark would draw comments. Okay, so Raimi DID get Spidey. It's debatable as to who's to blame for the much maligned 3. I'm just sayin' Raimi and Singer's first couple of Marvel efforts showed a fine grasp of character and story.
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Xavier: Rufus Sewell
Beast: Tom Hardy
Angel: Garret Hedlund
Cyclops: Sean Farris
Marvel Girl: Emmy Rossum
Iceman: James Ransone
Magneto: Paul Bettany
Mastermind: James Callis
Quicksilver: Rupert Friend
Scarlett Witch: Eva Green
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1. Xavier, Jean, Scott, Warren, Bobby & Hank vs. Magneto's original Brotherhood (plus the Blob). Magneto trying to set up a haven for mutants using stolen nukes. The usual. 2. Xavier, Jean, Scott, Warren, Bobby & Hank vs. Factor Three: Changeling, Unus, Vanisher, mind-controlled Banshee & Xavier's brother: Juggernaut. Xavier seemingly dies at the end. 3. Jean, Scott, Warren, Bobby, Hank are split up in the wake of Xavier's Death. They are brought back together when Mesmero tries to convince Polaris that she is Magneto's daughter, but unleashes Havok's dangerous power. They go to one of Xavier's former colleagues who turns into Sauron, and fight his Mutates, with unexpected help from Xavier. The X-Men return home, but are kidnapped at the end by the Sentinels, leading Xavier to go looking for a new team...
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So no more Superman from Singer? Fuck off! I loved Returns, despite its warts.
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Welcome back from 2007. Warners and Singer have been non-committal on Superman since right after they signed him for a "sequel" deal in Oct. 2006. Move on, another Singer Supes will NEVER happen.
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You are my new best friend. BETTANY and SEWELL are two of my favorite guys, and I'd love to see them get a bit more exposure in a major film like this.
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They insisted on having Cyclops in the Wolverine movie, but since they hadn't met yet he had to run around blindfolded for most of the movie to make sure Cyclops never saw Wolverine. Maybe they'll shoehorn Wolverine into this movie but he'll be so drunk he doesn't remember any of it.
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Dec 19, 2009 12:10:00 AM CST
ZERO interest in Singer's Xavier/Magento gay fantasy!
by theghostwholurks
And we ALL know that's exactly what Bryan means by a "romantic element." Mageneto wants Charles, but is rebuffed? I can see he and Ian McKellan working out the plot together right now.It's crap like this that makes Singer the WORST person to go to to make superhero films. Pure garbage.
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Thank you Bryan Singer!
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...to the way some of these nerdlings try to tell you you don't know what you're saying. I don't profess to be a film expert. I'm just another fanboy (yeah, just TRY to judge me, postin' mofos!), and I'M thinking the romantic element Singer refers to is either Scott and Jean, or Charles and Gabrielle Haller and/or Moira MacTaggart. I could be wrong, and maybe TheGhostWhoLurks has Singer's homosexual agenda all figured out. Maybe we're about to enter a new era of cinematic slash fiction, but in the comics ProfX and Mags LOVES the pussy. Wouldn't be the first time some drooler read homosexual subtext where none actually existed.
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I don't think that Singer has an agenda to make either character gay. I have seen all of his films and haven't seen any gay agenda pushed in any of them. I didn't even know he was gay until recently. Who really cares? So long as he's not trying to feel you up in a bar why should it bother you?
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I think that Singer really did get the X-Men. I think his X-Men movies show that: the sense of being shut off from the rest of society for being different. It doesn't necessarily speak for being gay, but for all types of people who are not considered normal.
And Raimi DID get Spider-Man/Peter Parker. It was the studio and especially Avi Arad who crammed Venom down his throat, making Spider-Man 3 just..meh... while the other two are great. I did have a serious problem with the Sandman being the real killer. That was uncalled for revisionism. -
Dec 19, 2009 5:05:20 AM CST
Singer does not have the power to make Magneto gay morons.
by dailysportspages
You think Marvel or Fox would allow that to happen?
Idiots.
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Dec 19, 2009 5:43:33 AM CST
As far as this storyline... lets leave out Factor Three.
by dailysportspages
Movie 1
Explore the young Magneto/Xavier relationship, but have that be the "B" story.
The "A" story being the events from the first comic issue.
Four young mutant students under the tutelage of Xavier at his academy. Beast being the oldest student of Xavier is more of a teachers assistant if you will.
Angel is the one with the strongest personality at the school and is somewhat the unofficial leader. This is all figured out in the first scene where the mutants are being tested by Xavier.
Xavier then brings in young Jean, the first girl at the academy... and thats your romantic interest as soon as Cyclops lays eyes on her.
Magneto takes control of a US military base and sets up a magnetic shield that no military weapons can get through.
Xavier sees the news and decides that he has no choice but to send his boys in to help stop Magneto.
Cyclops uses his beam at full blast on Magneto's shielding. Magneto exhausts himself trying to hold it up, but eventually fails and the X-Men are able to get inside.
In his state of weakness he is not able to fight of the other X-Men as easily as he figured he would.
His helmet is knocked off by a concussive blast and Xavier is able to talk to him and mentally wear him down.
As the X-Men close in on Magneto a wall explodes and in a flash Quicksilver has Magneto's helment and is putting it back on his boss.
The rest of the Brotherhood enter the building and engage the X-Men.
This final climactic battle allows the Magneto and his Brotherhood to flee the scene.
During the battle Cyclops leaves no doubt as to who the teams real operation leader is going to be going forward. While Beast is older, and Angel is more outgoing... Cyclops proves to be a natural leader on the field.
Specially since he not only originally forces Magneto to stop the shielding, but he also is the one who makes him drop his helmet.
He also manages to come to the rescue of the other X-Men in two separate moments, first with Jean and then with the others.
Which is probably when she starts looking at Cyclops the way he originally looked at her.
And theres the real genesis of the romance aspect thats always hinted at.
What Magneto learns is that he cant do this alone, he needs to grow the Brotherhood.
Which ends the movie and sets up the sequel.
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Starts off with the Xavier finding the Blob and trying to help him, and inviting him to join the school.
He refuses and attacks them then leaves, he comes back with his carnival friends and they attack the mansion. They are eventually thwarted and have their memories blocked by Xavier.
One of Blobs carnival buddies happened to also be a mutant by the name of Mimic. He is curious about Xavier and what he has going on and wants to know more. He ends up joining.
Again this is story "B".
Story "A" has to do with our more formal introduction of the Brotherhood and their powers, as well as the backstory of Pietro and Wanda.
Signs of their discontent with Magnetos "vision" are clear.
Story "C" has Magneto dispatch his brotherhood to recruit Unus The Untouchable, while he himself goes to the carnival and helps unblock Blobs memory. Enraged by having his memory manipulated the Blob joins Magnetos Brotherhood and tells him the location of the school.
Story A, B, and C all culminate with the Brotherhoods all out attack on the Mansion.
Thats when Xavier breaks out Cerebro and tells Cyclops that the machine is for him to use as he is the true leader of the X-Men.
The Brotherhood now aided with Blob and Unus are a tough match for the X-Men to fight.
Unus ends up inside the mansion and squares off with Beast, who shoots him up with a toxin that ramps up his power to levels which Unus can no longer control, making him unable to do anything.
Beast gives him the antidote in return for Unus switching alliances.
Blob has a similar change of heart when Magneto attempts to take out the X-Men while he is still in harms way, Magneto calls him a sacrifice for the good of the cause.
Instead Blob turns and rushes Magneto and is instrumental in his defeat. Unfortunately Cerebro is destroyed in the fight, as is portions of the mansion.
Magneto, Mastermind, Unus, and Toad are all captured and incarcerated. Blob decides he doesnt want any part of either the X-Men or Magnetos cause and simply goes back to the carnival... not before Xavier blocks his memories once more.
Both Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch intervened when Magneto was about to kill a couple of the X-Men... they also decided that their debt to Magneto was more than paid off. Able to prevent Magneto from being incarcerated they refused to help. Instead they fled while Magneto watched.
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The X-Men rebuild from the ashes of the previous battle with the Brotherhood.
Happy with themselves that the threat of Magneto has been nullified.
Beast had advanced as far as he could under Xavier and decided to become a professor himself at a local university. He simply wants to be "normal" and tries to find a cure for his mutation.
This movie would deal with the Sentinels. Culminating with the X-Men having to fight the first batch of Sentinels and having the recently freed Magneto help them. Yes, the mutants are united for a common goal.
The side story involves Xavier using a new more powerful Cerebro to get in contact with his brother.
We are able to see a lot of the backstory here between the two, think of it as partially a "Xavier Origins" story.
Juggernaut is involved, as is Banshee and Black Tom in a minor capacity.
During this movie we see Beast in a more clinical setting. While there he ends up taking the serum that instead of curing him actually further mutates his body into an even more hulking furry gray Beast.
Juggernaut helps defeat the Sentinel threat, but then quickly turns on the X-Men.
Magneto is seemingly killed by the Juggernaut.
And both Marvel Girl and Cyclops are unaccounted for.
At the end of the movie it is revealed that the scientist behind the Sentinel program was none other than Dr. Nathaniel Essex, aka Mr Sinister.
The movie ends with a shot of an island far off into the ocean. Within the island there lies a bunker with a lab. We find Jean, Scott, and the body of Magneto tied to machines. They are being experimented on by Essex.
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Starts with Xavier going on a recruiting spree, bringing in 7 new mutants from around the world into the fold. Starting with Banshee who he had already worked with the X-Mem previously when he followed Juggernaut to the states.
Upon the arrival of the 7 mutants at the mansion, they are told of the reason behind their recruitment.
At this point a battered and bruised Cyclops reveals himself and tells the story of what happened when Beast, Angel, and Iceman when to rescue them from Sinister's Living Island named Krakoa.
This movie would be the start of a new trilogy.
Laying the groundwork for the coming of Apocalypse in the 6th movie.
Krakoa is not simply Sinisters hideout, its his creation.
We have his story revealed here, not only his backstory, but some of that of Jean and Scott.
How he had a hand in their history and how he has been manipulating events all along.
The island is living because deep inside of it lies the resting place of Apocalypse. The being who Sinister has been trying to awaken for years.
And the only way he can do it is to bring enough super powerful mutants to converge on the island at the same time.
The 7 new mutants go to the Island and not only rescue the others, but thwart Essex plans... at least for now.
Unfortunately Angel has been critically wounded and his wings cut off.
Essex has completely transformed himself to Mr. Sinister.
Beast has been mutated yet again with the help of Sinister, this time getting the blue fur we know him for the most.
And Jean is never the same again, the ordeal causing the beginning of the emotional split that will lead her towards the inevitable.
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BTW... the 7 new X-Men from the previous movie are Nightcrawler, Banshee, Storm, Colossus, Sunfire, Thurnderbird, and of course Wolverine.
Magneto is disillusioned with fighting. His time around Xavier again has sparked a gentler kinder Magneto to come forth.
Instead of fighting he has decided to make his own island nation for all mutants to live in, free from persecution. He is rejoined by Quicksilver and the Scarlett Witch, as well as Polaris and a number of other mutants who have come of their own free will.
During this time the Morlock Massacre occurs, Gambit is introduced, so is Sabretooth and other mutants working for Sinister.
The Phoenix force starts to manifest itself on Jean... who is also pregnant.
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Apocalypse is finally awakened by Sinister.
Magnetos island is destroyed by Apocalypse, many mutants die.
The power of the Phoenix is what finally helped Apocalypse come back to life.
He is destined to fight with the Phoenix.
Throw in a little 4 Horsemen of Apocalypse in there with Gambit, Wolverine, the newly christened Archangel, and the Morlock Caliban.
As well as the death of Xavier and the final showdown between Phoenix and Apocalypse.
After the climax, the rest of the surviving X-Men put Xavier into the ground.
Xaviers will holds that Magneto should be the new headmaster at the school and help lead the X-Men in his absence... he is apparently fully reformed of course.
But just as Wolverine is getting ready to quit the team upon learning the news that Magneto is coming to the Mansion... someone shows up out of the blue.
Its Bishop, and he is from the future.
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before anyone doth protest, I'll attempt to legitimize Fareal's latest assertion...
Spacey: has never "come out" but is largely believed to be gay.
Stewart: has been married to women, has always been with women "publicly," but heavily rumored in recent years to be gay.
McKellen: No debate here -- out and proud!
Jackman: Loves musicals, has a history of starring in them -- need I say more? Plus, his "wife" is not, shall we say, on the same level of conventional attractiveness as Hugh.
Routh: Married "girlfriend" -- but the party buzz coming from the troubled "Superman Returns" production was too great to ignore.
Next role after Superman? A cameo in "Zack and Miri Make A Porno" as a gay porn actor.
Cruise: An open secret in the industry (just like many prominent actors).
Now, these assertions don't affect my viewing of these actors' movies whatsoever (or Singer's), but I'm just pointing out that there is indeed arguably a "pattern" here... -
As I said, I don't concern myself with that kind of stuff. So I guess I'm oblivious to the pattern. Aside from Singer and Sir Ian, everybody else is just a maybe. I'm just sayin', to be an openly gay person in the entertainment industry, none of Singer's movies have any outright gay themes- aside frome the ostracism that goes with X-Men.
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Dec 19, 2009 3:09:46 PM CST
Yes, they gays are everywhere and they are out to get you!
by dailysportspages
Why do homophobes see homo everywhere?
Maybe they should start looking in the mirror, lots of times those who are always saying "gay" are often times repressed homosexuals themselves. -
dailysports and AmericanWerewolf. I was just going with the "if you can't beat 'em, join em" mentality, just for now... Believe me, I have avoided this topic whenever I post here as well, because it really holds very little interest or weight with me -- but it seems to creep up no matter what we say or do... As I've said before, any problems I've had with Singer (and these are almost entirely just with his Superman) are purely due to his conception of the character and film itself, but I really am a bit taken aback by all the TBers here who seem to have problem with Singer himself due to his personal lifestyle. And the talkback on Sex and the City -- WHEW... that was pretty disturbing.
By the way, anyone know how to actually separate paragraphs in these talkbacks?? -
I try to avoid the topic myself, I'm no freakin' activist. So why should I care? But it gets tiresome. Like before Star Trek came out, and the homo slurs flew fast and furious. A movie news website and yer gonna hang about like some obnoxious lout in shop class? But other TBers, usually wiser than myself, say they're just trolls and to remark on their comments only encourages them. They don't seem to get you're here to discuss entertainment. NOBODY is interested in hearing about your hangups.
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...is that X-Men is a topic that interests me. That's it. And at this stage, the only class that interests me is THE class: Cyclops. Storm. Nightcrawler. Wolverine. Colossus. Kitty Pryde. Rogue. I'm not particularly interested in backward glances, and I am sick of the "throw-as-many-mutants-at-the-viewers-as-possible-and-hope-it-looks-cool" approach. Give us a story that has resonance, and characters that have purpose, dammit!
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who cares about anything any of you have to say. you are all hacks like singer. 'Street kings?' what a joke.
more regurgitated characters. more bad special effects and wire work. more bland camera work. more bad one liners and bad acting. hey lets go ahead and let all these 'directors' put out more cynical turds out that steal from the action movies from the year before.
you guys aren't fans. you sit in front of your TV and judge. Nothing else. Like piss bags.
If the studios only hire directors or writers who have failed before i vote for Wes Anderson. At least then we know how pretentious the movie will be before we walk in.
Movies are going to change with or without you.
'street kings?!...what the fuk. -
Yup. I hear ya, bro.
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What will a prequel accomplish? They've run out of ideas, this is a gimmick.
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It's set up for resurrecting our leader.
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My guess was right on the money. Check my comment in the prior story on X-Men First Class.
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Iceman's supposed to be a fun energetic guy, and singer made him into a shy sensitive guy who has a girlfriend he can't touch. Sounds like ol' Bobby Drake purposely got a girl whose touch could put him into a coma to cover up the fact that he'd rather be alone with Logan in the danger room.
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The decision to kill off Cyke and Charlie in Last Stand was piss poor. I mean, it served no purpose! I understand in the Hero's Journey we come to a point where the support of the Mentor is somehow lost and the protagonists are left to their own devices yaddayaddayadda, but this was done, not once but twice in the first two movies. It's lost whatever impact it may have had, and they should never do it again.
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There is no purpose for this project to exist, unless it's to revitalize the franchise. Other than that it's gonna be a tough sell with the been there factor.
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how they messed up Ice Man, he didnt ice up properly at all and when he finally did in the third film it was just to deliver a headbutt. He was just a whiny emo pouting over his girlfriend who claims to be Rogue.
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For every one thing the movies did right, there were a few details that suffered. I understand Wolverine is a popular character, but it was like a "Wolverine AND the X-Men" series. While every character needs their moment to shine, the focus SHOULD have been on Cyclops, with Kitty Pryde or Iceman as the audience-identification character. New characters got lost in the shuffle, old characters needed more to do, especially by the third movie.
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Remember when you made good movies? Er... I mean your one good movie? What happened to that gritty realism that you slapped me with like a fucking cinderblock?
Your first X-Men was okay, not exactly the stuff of legends but it was palatable to all but the most stringent fanboy. Yet now you're trying to resurrect the franchise by what, delving into the larger player's collective pasts? Will you have Angel? No because his history was goatfucked in X3. Will you have Beast? Maybe, but Iceman was likewise turned into a fucking boyband cunt. So what you have no is Xavier, Magneto, Beast, Cyclops, Jean Grey...maybe. And who is this baddie we've been hearing about because honestly, there is a realm of incredible villains in Marvel but it really doesn't get better than Magneto. Nazi's, perhaps? You know what, thank God for Adolf Hitler because without him Hollywood would be without bad guys to riddle with bullets.
Here's an idea: don't do it. This is a bad idea for a film. Horrible idea. Instead of milking this franchise - or BSG for that matter you fucking leech - how about you do something *gasp* original?! -
...was ruined because of his love affair with Kevin Spacey - both on and off the camera.
Never hire friends/lovers for films that you are directing. Tarantino/Roth is another great example.
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