Why No LOST ROOM Series?? Syfy President Dave Howe Says WAREHOUSE 13 Is ‘A Better Version Of THE LOST ROOM’!!
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If you’ve been wondering why Syfy keeps grinding out swill like “MegaShark Vs. Giant Octopus,” “Flash Gordon” and “Alice” instead of turning its acclaimed 2006 “The Lost Room” miniseries into an ongoing franchise, this week’s Monday conference call with Syfy president Dave Howe may shed some light:
ECLIPSE MAGAZINE EDITORIAL DIRECTOR MICHELLE ALEXANDRIA: Just had a quick question regarding the Lost Room and it’s one of my favorite shows that a few years ago. And the way it ended it seemed like there was talk about a TV spinoff, whatever happened to that?
SYFY PRESDIENT DAVE HOWE: I missed the title actually - what was the show?
ALEXANDRIA: It’s the Lost Room.
HOWE: The Lost Room. Yeah, we did have it in - that’s a very good question actually because I haven't heard anything about the Lost Room for a while. I know we tried to develop it as a series but I think we struggled to close the deal on it.
Let me just - I'm just flicking through the development report now. Yeah, I don't think it’s in development. No it’s not. I think it was a concept. It’s interesting actually. It was a concept that we really loved. And if I'm honest I think we've done it better in Warehouse 13. If you look at...
HOWE: ... the concept of Warehouse 13 which is objects with special powers I think Warehouse 13 does a, you know, does a better version of the Lost Room from a series perspective.
I think the challenge that we had with Lost Room is it was very difficult as a concept even though we loved it to kind of market it in one sentence or less because it was somewhat, you know, complicated to just explain to everybody there was this kind of, you know, missing room and a missing key etcetera, etcetera.
And the thing about the objects was that their arbitrary powers were also problematic. The fact that, you know, you picked up an alarm clock and you had no idea what it would actually do. I think the success of Warehouse 13 is we've tried to give all of the objects a real kind of mythology and a history that actually stacks up that makes some sense either historically or scientifically, etcetera.
And I think that’s why Warehouse 13 works. And I think that’s probably why the Lost Room didn't work for us. It was one of our lowest rated miniseries ever. And I think that’s pretty much - I think answers your question.
Find Alexandria’s Eclipse bullet points on the conference call here.
Find a complete transcript of the Monday conference call, which also suggests Syfy has something called “Sharktopus” on the fast-track, here.
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Dec. 17, 2009, 4:32 p.m. CST
Half shark, half octopus! Hell yeah! At least they know it's crap and don't hold back.
Dec. 17, 2009, 4:35 p.m. CST
Fuck yes! Set my DVR to engage!
Dec. 17, 2009, 4:35 p.m. CST
The first time I saw Warehouse 13, I just assumed it was a series of the lost room. And I can see his reasoning. Warehouse is a bit more fun and can go more places. Cheers.
Dec. 17, 2009, 4:42 p.m. CST
for you know, the part where warehouse 13 sucks and lost room was pretty much the only thing syfy ever had worth watching.
Dec. 17, 2009, 4:43 p.m. CST
is a fucking idiot.
Dec. 17, 2009, 4:50 p.m. CST
Stupid viewers lets chalk it up to that. Lost room was fantastic, and the fact that it was ordinary objects with powers was genius
Dec. 17, 2009, 4:52 p.m. CST
And this is the awful end result. This "See Fee" bastardization.
Dec. 17, 2009, 4:53 p.m. CST
Much better than this Whorehouse 13 crap.
Dec. 17, 2009, 5:01 p.m. CST
What was so hard about it? It was a great idea and it made sense to me. Still, I think it would work better as a mini-series ala "Razor" and "The Plan". Except, you know, good. (Razor was good actually).
Dec. 17, 2009, 5:15 p.m. CST
What a 'tard. The Lost Room was a decent example of smart fantasy. I guess all we can look forward to now is the same connect-the-dots approach to generic syfy...ughhh....
Dec. 17, 2009, 5:24 p.m. CST
Its a real good show with a few hot chicks. I liked Lost Room too and there is room for both IMHO..You haters suck shit. If they said Lost Room is coming back 3/4's of you fucking lemmings would be trashing it already and saying how lame SYFY is etc..go fuck yourselves.
Dec. 17, 2009, 5:31 p.m. CST
It is fun and easy to get into it. I like it for what it is. The cast is personable, for the most part, and the items and associated adventures are interesting. But I do not think of it as great, must-see television.<p> I see the exec's POV because The Lost Room was convoluted. I felt like it was on the verge of collapsing under its own weight towards the end of the mini-series. i had hoped it would go to series and if forced to choose I would watch The Lost Room over Warehouse 13 in a heartbeat. However clever, though, it requires some effort on the part of the viewer. Nowadays asking patience on the part of the viewer is a recipe for cancellation. A better bet, in my opinion, is another mini-series installment.<p> Oh, well, I guess we can all console ourselves with Sharktopus being on the fast track. Sigh.
Dec. 17, 2009, 5:31 p.m. CST
Dec. 17, 2009, 5:36 p.m. CST
Enough with the campy shit. The entire series comes off like one of those bad syndicated Saturday afternoon 'action' series that popped up in the wake of Hercules and Xena, back in the late '90s. You know the ones.
Dec. 17, 2009, 5:46 p.m. CST
by Cap'n Jack
I enjoyed it very much. That said, this Dave Howe is a fucking idiot, and is ruining the sci-fi channel.
Dec. 17, 2009, 5:47 p.m. CST
How does a network still have the same lame programming on for 13 or more yrs, yet its sister channels like Bravo, A&E, and Lifetime have evolved???
Dec. 17, 2009, 5:50 p.m. CST
I don't even remember the Lost Room. I watch Warehouse 13. Its nice to have a light-hearted sci-fi show instead of Prisoner or BSG clone.
Dec. 17, 2009, 5:51 p.m. CST
Why don't they have the balls to go after Journeyman, Angel, Bionic Woman, SCC:Terminator, and etc???
Dec. 17, 2009, 5:51 p.m. CST
a network exec saying, 'you know' every other word. a real brainiac. (no offense to Brainiac)
Dec. 17, 2009, 5:52 p.m. CST
by Bill Clay
A SyFy® Original Movie starring Michael Shanks and David Hewlett, next Saturday night!!!
Dec. 17, 2009, 5:55 p.m. CST
I always assumed they were shitty independent films that SyFy would just pick up.
Dec. 17, 2009, 6:11 p.m. CST
it's shows where the concept can be explained in one sentence. <p> Here's a sentence for you, Mr Network Exec:<br> You are a fucking IDIOT. <p> SciFi fans can be obsessive to the point of insanity when it comes to the "product". It's like crack cocaine to them. And you're trying to sell them flapjacks. <p> You're a fucking idiot.
Dec. 17, 2009, 6:14 p.m. CST
by Sith Angel
thought changing the name to "SyFy" would be a great move? (hey, it's fresh, hip and what do the kids call it...oh yeah..the bomb, SyFy is a great name change! It will immediately increse viewership with the 18-25 age group!)I tell you, the suits at the studios really are a bunch of out-of-touch, self-congratulating, mutual admiration society, clueless morons....I know, I speak with them most every day. "SyFy"....ugh...idiots.
Dec. 17, 2009, 6:14 p.m. CST
This is where the series totally blew it for me. You have to allow so much, obviously, to get into this show anyway but gimme a break. Lost Room was just shy of being good.
Dec. 17, 2009, 6:17 p.m. CST
So... Warehouse 13 has objects too, so that's, like... the same thing, right? This guy couldn't be bothered by such trivial things as story nuance (and, if HE can't, then SURELY the idiot masses watching couldn't either. Best to just spoon-feed to them instead...) I mean, really--it's all about the marketing anyway, right? Thanks for giving a shit, dude. Can you please, please, pretty please sell the rights to another (real) network?
Dec. 17, 2009, 6:27 p.m. CST
isn't it? Remember "Flash Gordon"? it was basically Xena, but with a bone-headed guy as the lead (I kinda liked it)
Dec. 17, 2009, 6:33 p.m. CST
Warehouse 13 is inferior in every way. Also, Kevin Pollack, Peter Krause and Julianna Marguiles. I know they're on other shows now, but fuck. Warehouse 13 is stupid, trite, contrived, and absolutely pointless.
Dec. 17, 2009, 6:41 p.m. CST
Sy Fy is a joke, they don't deserve life.
Dec. 17, 2009, 6:41 p.m. CST
Do they first come up with the wacky premise and then does the writer intentionally try to write the worst lines possible (and fail if they don't turn out funny) or do they find the cheapest script floating around Hollywood and hope it turns out unintentionally funny onscreen?
Dec. 17, 2009, 6:45 p.m. CST
by Mr Lucas
that says less about the show and more about the dimwits running the channel. Did this guy train to be an accountant by any chance? Did he get his soul removed for free or did he have to pay for the soulectomy?
Dec. 17, 2009, 6:50 p.m. CST
God damnit I wish someone else ran that network. Someone who actually liked Sci-Fi maybe? With pop culture the way it is now, that channel should rule cable.
Dec. 17, 2009, 7:06 p.m. CST
lost room was amazing, and everyone ive made watch it, from children to senior citizens, have loved it.
Dec. 17, 2009, 7:22 p.m. CST
by Larry of Arabia
I hate to admit it, but do we really want all the questions about the room answered? Lost Room was a wonderful self contained story about an ordinary man's run in with the supernatural that is more effective with it's secrets in tact. Modern geeks seem to want everything spelled out for them. So tell me, were you happy with the revelations at the end of The X-Files? How thrilled were you with Kyle's Future War backstory? Frankly, be careful what you wish for. Let the mystery remain because we would inevitably be disappointed with the answers. Great, now I'm worried about "Lost."
Dec. 17, 2009, 7:22 p.m. CST
by Mockingbird Girl
Too bad they didn't watch it when it aired and the ratings actually mattered! I loved THE LOST ROOM, but have absolutely no trouble believing the ratings were too low to justify developing a series.
Dec. 17, 2009, 7:36 p.m. CST
A total rip off and Robey was better to look at.
Dec. 17, 2009, 7:42 p.m. CST
"We screened it for the inbred mongoloids that tune it to our most popular program Tits and Ass Wrastlin' or whatever it's called. They didn't understand it. They kept asking why a comb would turn someone invisible. Shouldn't a comb have a magic power about hair?" <P> I was going to greenlight it but, I wanted to recast with Triple H as the lead and Dog the Racist Bounty Hunter as his side kick but, the producers wouldn't go for it." <P> We do have a new show in development called Stargate:Twilight about teenage vaguely effeminate vampires that are good guys and travel through the Stargate every week to the same backyard in Vancouver. We run all the scripts though a computer program to make sure everything is at the sixth grade reading level or below. It's testing really great."
Dec. 17, 2009, 7:45 p.m. CST
or he wouldn't say something so preposterous! Warehouse 13 is fun but it has none of the class of The Lost Room.
Dec. 17, 2009, 7:49 p.m. CST
by Paul T. Ryan
Seriously Herc, you need to stop acting as if TV cancellations are a crime against humanity. I could still bitch about Crusade, or Brimstone, but I've moved on, and so has everyone else involved with those shows. Also, the reason Syfy airs those cheapo monster movies is that they're already made by other hands and sold to Syfy cheap. Those films are usually on DVD outside the US well before Syfy ever airs them. The fact of the matter is that these companies (RHI chief amongst them) must be really good negotiators to keep pumping out content for Syfy, even if their shows are mostly shit. It's clearly all about the dollars, and maybe there needs to be more of a happy medium between low budgets and good writing, because clearly Syfy can't/won't pay for any expensive stuff.
Dec. 17, 2009, 7:54 p.m. CST
I really enjoy WAREHOUSE 13, but to say it was better than THE LOST ROOM? Why is this man in charge of anything entertainment related?
Dec. 17, 2009, 8:01 p.m. CST
The inmates are running the asylum.
Dec. 17, 2009, 8:45 p.m. CST
has been since the hammer took over
Dec. 17, 2009, 8:52 p.m. CST
and it's still fucking great! My girlfriend loved it too, (she missed it when it aired) This Sci-Fi (fuck SyFy) guy is a complete skid mark.
Dec. 17, 2009, 8:53 p.m. CST
Saul Rubinek is wasting his considerable skills on it
Dec. 17, 2009, 9:11 p.m. CST
I don't mind that Skiffy makes no-brain stuff like Warehouse 13, but to pretend that it's as good as The Lost Room? Ugh. Prep the boiling oil. The only reason The Lost Room tanked was because their marketing department dropped the ball. It's got a cult following that loves it death and it's got so much potential. I shouldn't be surprised, but it's so damn disappointing to see the suits slacking off like this.
Dec. 17, 2009, 9:15 p.m. CST
Remember how awesome MTV was when it hit? Some of you kids might not remember it, but it was pretty fucking cool. And then, much to the dismay of those who embraced it, it slowly morphed into the fuckhole of nonsense garbage that it is today. Essentially a total bastardization of what it stood for when it first emerged. The "new and improved" SyFy (Note: WORST FUCKING REBRAND EVER) has managed to do the same in half the time. Congrats, douchebag assholes with your fingers on the pulse of a generation. You lose.
Dec. 17, 2009, 9:21 p.m. CST
imagine, a Syfylitic exec talking out of his ass, what a surprise
Dec. 17, 2009, 9:29 p.m. CST
I want more lost room!
Dec. 17, 2009, 9:32 p.m. CST
Dec. 17, 2009, 9:37 p.m. CST
you need to take a valium
Dec. 17, 2009, 10:02 p.m. CST
Talk about not having your pulse on the fanbase. Wake up! Lost Room was smart and not the usual cliche-filled crap you have on the air. This is probably the same guy behind the SyFy brand name change. Ugh I hate even typing that.
Dec. 17, 2009, 10:13 p.m. CST
Do you know what being humble is? It kind of involves not ending a post with something like "WTF????"
Dec. 17, 2009, 10:30 p.m. CST
"The Lost Room" could have been SyFy's "Mad Men." Oh well -- corporate American decisionmaking at its best.
Dec. 17, 2009, 10:41 p.m. CST
I enjoyed The Lost Room. Warehouse 13 is... fine. I like the leads, and the woman is really pretty, but as I say it's... fine. It is what it is.<p>But I was told that Warehouse 13 was their highest rated show and the majority of the audience was women, and I've also always been told that Herc is a woman, or at least a teenage girl. I'm sure I've read that hundreds to thousands of times so how can Herc not like Warehouse 13?
Dec. 17, 2009, 11:13 p.m. CST
W13 is nothing but ok background tv to have on while you're doing other shit. The Lost Room was a superb mini series compared to the crap we've had of late. Alice anyone? shit. SCIFI really dropped the ball on that one. But what do you expect from the channel that changed the name to SYFY. Idiots.
Dec. 17, 2009, 11:53 p.m. CST
And with this guy at the top, changing their name to SyFy, hard to have a lot of hope for the network
Dec. 18, 2009, 12:08 a.m. CST
The Lost Room, as much as I love it, was not an ongoing series material.<p> What The Lost Room should have been is a bunch of mini-series. <p> You had pretty much resolved Nate's (Joe Miller's) issues and plot line in the 1st mini-series, but ... there was plenty of story left in the universe. Have a bunch of 3-6 episode mini-series each dealing with different characters and plots. Plus the nature of the objects was that you either (a) got a single object and horded for the rest of your life, or (b) got involved with a lot of objects and then got the fuck out as quickly as possible. The former made supporting characters, the latter made your main characters.<p> Plus a series of mini-series allowed you to do different time periods. For example, the story of the objects in the prison (need to re-watch The Lost Room), the origin story, the full tale of the guys wife and the room, etc.. <p> The was plenty of good material in that universe.
Dec. 18, 2009, 12:20 a.m. CST
The show is on my season pass because the relationships between the characters is a lot of fun. They are decent actors and the characters seem to actually give a shit about one another. I know in this world we live in it's uncool to care about another human being but give it a chance sometime. Some of the episodes aren't great in the science fiction area but still have great interplay among the characters and some of the episodes are pretty damned brilliant.
Dec. 18, 2009, 12:25 a.m. CST
I kept reading articles where people were wondering why Syfy never continued The Lost Room. And I realized that TLR is very similar to Warehouse 13 in concept. If I am correct TLR is owned by someone else, i.e. Syfy would have to pay another party for the rights. Where as WH13 is an original concept created for the Syfy channel. This is what I thought was the reason anyways.
Dec. 18, 2009, 12:46 a.m. CST
I can practically feel the indifference, apathy, and contempt coming off the screen in waves.
Dec. 18, 2009, 12:48 a.m. CST
The Dresden Files<p> Great series, well writen, acted and directed.<p> Had a lot of material to draw upon, a rich and fleshed out 'verse to explore with the characters
Dec. 18, 2009, 1:56 a.m. CST
I mean standards. And kevred, I think you nailed it. Probably has sports running on his TV in the office all day. How could the guy in charge not know what the Lost Room is?
Dec. 18, 2009, 2:07 a.m. CST
It's also one of the ones most talked about on internet forums like this. But you're clearly not aware of that. I have to agree with Kevred's comment that "I can practically feel the indifference, apathy, and contempt coming off the screen in waves."<br> <br> You sound like one of those bigwigs who runs the transit authority but never actually takes a train or bus. What a fucking travesty is the people that run this channel. How am I not surprised that you folks actually had hours upon hours of meetings about changing the name of your channel. What a waste.
Dec. 18, 2009, 4:57 a.m. CST
But he had to look it up in a report to see whether or not Lost Room was in production? He wouldn't know that off the top of his head? Lost Room was a great mini-series-- the only thing I've really liked on the channel.
Dec. 18, 2009, 5:48 a.m. CST
I've seen parts of Warehouse 13, not enough to regarded it as terrible, but enough to regard it as mediocre. He obviously has no ability to assess quality.
Dec. 18, 2009, 5:56 a.m. CST
I know I'm 12 hours late, but please tell me one of those channels that have "evolved" in a positive way. Bravo used to be incredibly gutsy, now its all reality like everything else in the world.
Dec. 18, 2009, 6:09 a.m. CST
...because he wasn't giving his full attention to the interview. He was shuffling through development folders and files, reading other papers, whilst being interviewed! Hence the ums and the 'you knows'..Also, syfy is a business. It is there to make money. It is not a charity. Only 100 of you nuts saw Lost Room (101 if you count me). The show was good but the ratings were shit. That means there was no money in Lost Room and therefore, no series. He said that they looked into it but couldn't cut a deal. Most likely, the three actors demanded big bucks (cos actors generally are all high class hookers now) and the studio couldn't make the numbers work with the ratings. That's how business works, children. Warehouse 13 obviously costs nothing to make, hence its getting a second season. Reality my friends, always wins when up against (science) fiction.
Dec. 18, 2009, 7:09 a.m. CST
I have two copies of it on DVD. it's totally superior to Whorehouse 13, which is "ok", but I'll be surprised if it makes it to a 3rd season. The Lost Room was complex and had a great set of "rules" when it came to the characters, Objects and The Room. The Objects themselves were just awesome with how they acted, both individually and with other Objects. It wasn't recycled X-Files crap.
Dec. 18, 2009, 8:13 a.m. CST
I agree with you that WH13 is just okay, but as to your other point...Of the top 10 most watched shows ever on Syfy/Sci Fi Channel six of them are episodes of Warehouse 13. The sixth episode is the highest rated show on Syfy ever. Also, the viewershop is over 50% female which is what they were somehow trying to attract with the name change. I think WH13 would have to seriously crash and burn in year 2 to not make a year 3.
Dec. 18, 2009, 8:46 a.m. CST
This is true.
Dec. 18, 2009, 8:49 a.m. CST
RE-CAST if you have to! If you can't afford Krausse, get someone else-and make the damn show! It was THE BEST THING(aside from b.s.g.) to come from SCI-FI ever.And I'm sorry-warehouse 13 sucks ass.
Dec. 18, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST
Not the greatest series ever, not the worst either. I'd rather see season 2 of Threshold over W13. Hell, season 2 of Surface even.
Dec. 18, 2009, 9:27 a.m. CST
"And the thing about the objects was that their arbitrary powers were also problematic. The fact that, you know, you picked up an alarm clock and you had no idea what it would actually do." Funny how everything he says is problematic is actually what made the Lost Room great. But why am I not surprised?
Dec. 18, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST
I assume you're referring to the lead actress. I don't know why any chick would be compelled to inject collagen into their lips. It never looks good. If anything it makes them look like a clown. Do they realize this? Otherwise, she's a beautiful girl with a great body. Personally, I dig the redheaded emo chick, Claudia. So glad she wasn't the mole.
Dec. 18, 2009, 10:14 a.m. CST
That's what collagen lips look like to me.
Dec. 18, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST
While Lost Room was an excellent show that intelligent viewers love, SyFy they don't care about you. If they put on mediocre crap that the moronic masses will watch, that's what they'll do. It's about money and ratings. Five dumbasses watching "Easy to understand" programming (W-13)counts more than one smart sci-fi fan. It's the same reason we have two weeks of stories about Tiger Woods on the news instead of actual news, it get higher ratings. Networks only care about quality if it gets high ratings.
Dec. 18, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST
and an insult to intelligent sci-fi viewers. They cancel good shows and keep crappy ones going all for one reason - MONEY. Coop who posted right before me is right - SyFy doesn't care about the fans at all - and they obviously don't care about making quality programs. The Lost Room is superior to Whorehouse 13 in every way yet that idiot David Howe thinks the reverse? Typical SyFy bullshit. Bring back good shows like Farscape you assholes!
Dec. 18, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST
Haven't seen it but having Allison Scagliotti makes it cool in my book. First saw her on this show called Mental, thought she was very beautiful. Hope it's a success and leads to her getting better roles.
Dec. 18, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST
Mr. Howe, I think Battlestar Galactica proved your viewership can handle some complicated stories and characters. Though I do watch Warehouse 13 it's simple stories do not have me eagerly anticipating the next episode. Unfortunately I see Warehouse 13 as more of a police procedural along the lines of a bad Law and Order. Something bad happens. They go to investigate. They battle. The object is recovered. The end. The Lost Room could have been much broader, bigger, and more engaging. Oh well.
Dec. 18, 2009, 11:31 a.m. CST
I weep for the species.
Dec. 18, 2009, 11:37 a.m. CST
by Red Ned Lynch
...if this was 1979 and I was 13. I don't mind ScytheFilth having light and campy shows for kids on the schedule but it is a shame they don't seem able to successfully tackle much else.
Dec. 18, 2009, 12:15 p.m. CST
Too bad she's only 19. For my sake that is.
Dec. 18, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST
More sex with aliens on Crusade.
Dec. 18, 2009, 2:05 p.m. CST
AND I really like Warehouse 13. The two shows COULD exist in the same universe just, apparently, not on the same network. Didn't someone else say this jackhole was a fucking idiot!
Dec. 18, 2009, 2:37 p.m. CST
by CMDR. STRAKER
but I loved the puzzle of The Lost Room and how everything fit together. Not knowing what an object did was part of the fun. I have two buttons by a CH on my remote. What do they do?
Dec. 18, 2009, 7:17 p.m. CST
MonkeyManReturns, if it was up to you, we'd never have shows like The Wire. Reading a ratings chart is not a substitute for knowing how to program a channel. Howe clearly knows how to read a ratings chart, but not much else.
Dec. 18, 2009, 9:03 p.m. CST
Warehouse 13 is not a better version of The Lost Room. TLR had mystique, and a genuinely intriguing concept, almost like a Sturgeon story. W13 is just an X-Files riff. <br><br> Also, "It was very difficult as a concept even though we loved it to kind of market it in one sentence or less" - yeah, fuck this. Greenlighting shows based on how easy it is to write taglines for them is one of the reasons why SyFy is where it is in the TV quality ladder.
Dec. 18, 2009, 9:30 p.m. CST
"I don't even remember the Lost Room. I watch Warehouse 13. Its nice to have a light-hearted sci-fi show instead of Prisoner or BSG clone." <br><br> I find it fascinating that people would defend a show based on the fact that it's 'light-hearted', as if it's the one sunny show out there in the sea of bleak, dark, piercing TV programming. Are you fucking kidding me? Every other fucking show on TV is a 'light-hearted' something, the rest being police procedurals. BSG and The Prisoner are not the standard, they're the exceptional exceptions. We DO NOT have a deficit of light-hearted shows, and W13 is not nearly unique in that regard.
Dec. 19, 2009, 2:09 p.m. CST
I watched about two or three episodes of Warehouse 13 before I finally gave up on it. Guess I haven't missed much. The Lost Room was sheer GENIUS and proof positive that "SyFy" has nobody near that level of intelligence working on their programming staff. Please, "SyFy", bring on more "Vs" winners, it's oh so good for your already circling the toilet reputation for programming. The loss of an ongoing Lost Room series coupled with their COMPLETE mismanagement of the Flash Gordon franchise is why I completely refuse to watch ANYTHING on that network anymore. After a very slow start, Flash Gordon ended with TREMENDOUS potential, all it needed was a bigger budget for better effects/settings.
Dec. 19, 2009, 4:29 p.m. CST
Almost as if its trying to goad us into being offended and then....turns out that most of us actually like Warehouse 13. I know I did,and if given a choice between it and more Lost Room,the Warehouse wins. I do think its kind of idiotic for the exec to compare the two,but I honestly did not think Lost Room was that great.
Dec. 19, 2009, 10:42 p.m. CST
Because most of the people commenting either pass Warehouse 13 off as OK fluff or have no feelings either way for it. Some actively hate the show. <p> The Lost Room? Nothing but love.
Dec. 20, 2009, 5:49 a.m. CST
can duplicate it on any Network and pass it off as a hit. Hollywood is out of ideas, there are far too many The X-Files wannabe/rip-offs. The X-Files was unique in the 90s and took the industry to another level. It's shame that they're turning a once unique concept and turning it into Generic TV drivel. The state of TV today today - series clone, remake, re imagine, etc. Where is the original concept in story telling. No more original stories to tell Hollywood?
Dec. 20, 2009, 12:15 p.m. CST
by Real Deal
From the early 90's. It kind of makes me sad when I think of how excited I was about it's beginnings. Back then it had so much promise and I couldn't wait until they started producing their own programing. Until I saw what it was to become. To be sure they've had some real out of the park wins like " Farscape ", " BSG ", " Dune " and Their continuation of the " StarGate " fanshise ( for the most part ). Some stand alone stuff also. But what I'm seeing now that BSG is over is a drift toward mediocrity. It seems like the good stuff is gone. What's left is all the stuff I tolerated but didn't really like before. I mean look at what used to be their big night. Sanctuary is ok but hasn't done anything great yet. Eureka is ok but hasn't done anything great yet. SGU isn't terrible but has yet to get me going. On Tuesdays Warehouse 13 is ok but is that what the SYFY channel wants to pin their fortunes on? By the way my favorite genre show right now is " Fringe " which is light years above anything on the SYFY channel. The SciFi channel use to be a celebration of all things Science Fiction and Fantasy. Now it seems to be a celebration of " How cheaply can we crank this baby out ". If it's people continue to look at only the bottom line and not the artistic angle I fear for it's future. I mean their main squeeze BSG is a good example. They were worried about how much it cost. Wouldn't it have been ok to do a little bit less with their big monster movies and protect what was getting them acclaim? If you ask me the channel's owners need to look at a shake up of it's upper mangement. Maybe this will happen with ComCast taking over. One can only hope. I mean if they had a string of hits on the channel instead of stuff that's " ok " wouldn't that translate into more revenue? Surely that's something that they can understand?
Dec. 20, 2009, 12:24 p.m. CST
by Real Deal
With a resurgence of interest in Science Fiction right now ( the return of Star Trek to greatness and the popularity of Avatar etc. ) the anvil's hot right now! SYFY the time to do something about this is NOW! Or miss the boat.
Dec. 20, 2009, 2:08 p.m. CST
I've got fond memories that's good enough. I've seen a couple of episodes of Warehouse13, vaguely recall one about some ninja sword you can hide behind, but it never made me like enough to set the DVR onto it. Of course, compared to some of the shit on SyFy, Warehouse 13 is practically MENSA territory, so duh, it's probably the most popular thing.
Dec. 21, 2009, 9:12 a.m. CST
You miss the point - which is, Lost Room had poor ratings. That is not a great foundation for a series. Why would anyone spend money on a series that failed in the first instance. The wire didn't have a mini-series to start off with nor did it cast any 'big' names (meaning bigger budget). It was a crime series concept that had low ratings but DVD sales (and critic approval) were so promising that further seasons were ordered. Fact is, if Lost Room was a series, it would be seen by no-one (just like the mini-series) and then cancelled with all you guys crying at the injustice. Again, I loved Lost Room but totally agree with the idea that if something failed financially the first time, why invest in it again? In the ideal world, money would not matter and shows would be made whether they make money or not. And if they didn't make any money, the cast and crew would agree to work for nothing just so these low rated but highly intelligent shows could be made. But we don't live in that ga-ga artistic world where we can live without money and profit. There is always a bottom line. There is always a profit angle. And if you believe there shouldn't be, set up your own TV channel and lets see how far you go without turning in a profit.
Dec. 21, 2009, 8 p.m. CST
I understand why they went with "SyFy" as a brand but I'm surprised they didn't go for "NBC SciFi" instead. The only thing I can say positive about SyFy's management is at least they aren't as retarded as the management at BBC America or G4, yet. They still need to banish wrestling from the channel as well as their shlock rip-off films. The channel is nearly unwatchable on the weekends due to their "original" [derivative] programming. I'm in total agreement that they shouldn't have cancelled *The Dresden Files*. I'd also be happy if they'd put to rest *StarGate - Your Mom*. Talk about franchise fatigue for a property they don't even own [unless Comcast/NBC Universal decide to make a bid for MGM].
Dec. 22, 2009, 7:19 p.m. CST
It wouldn't really make for an interesting ongoing series. A sequel miniseries would be fantastic though. Peter Krause is way underrated. He at least deserves the same success Michael C. Hall has enjoyed post SFU.
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